[8:23] okay thank you

[8:35] welcome to this Federal meeting authority to discuss this awful

[8:41] extension of the strategory like sewer lines

[8:47] uh that

[8:52] have our engineer matsichi give you an explanation of exactly what

[8:58] what possible

[9:02] ramifications would be

[9:08] thank you Rick um last Circle for coming out uh just a

[9:13] couple housekeeping items there is a sign-in sheet in the back

[9:17] because for that purpose so we have a record of who's here

[9:27] and then we also have a couple of exhibits throughout in case anyone wants

[9:33] to take a look at things uh but just for some background information

[9:39] um and the uh the gentleman that are up here or four out of five members that

[9:43] are on the uh Eastland Peter Sewer Authority uh their board members so

[9:48] they've been appointed by the Board of Supervisors of the township here for uh

[9:55] managing basically the sanitary sewer system throughout the township

[9:58] so that's their responsibility for the uh overseeing the operation maintenance

[10:04] extensions as needed of the sewer system throughout the township and ultimately

[10:09] within the township um

[10:13] attachments ultimately responsible for sanitary sewer service

[10:17] uh be that through all my existing well not systems

[10:22] um I.E septic systems sand Mounds or public sanitary sewer systems so

[10:28] Eastland beer Sewer Authority board handles the public sanitary sewer system

[10:33] so previously uh it came to the Sewer authorities

[10:39] board's attention that there were residents out along strasbord Pike who

[10:48] they're existing online system their sewage septic system had failed and in

[10:53] working with the township sewage enforcement officer

[10:58] there was no means of providing a replacement system

[11:02] so they approached the Sewer Authority board to say are you looking at any

[11:07] possible sewer extensions or you know can you assist here with possible server

[11:11] extension to provide suitable means of sewage

[11:15] disposals so the authority uh passed the Catholic staff and hrg with looking out

[11:23] to say you know Is it feasible to provide you know is there a feasible

[11:28] means of providing a sensors or extension

[11:31] um so we basically just completed a conceptual

[11:35] uh design you know we went out took a look at just existing information

[11:40] topography sanitary sewer service

[11:44] uh does there's a Santa through remain that it does extend out

[11:50] um it was installed when the Bridge Project was uh Bridge was upgraded but

[11:55] it does come out to roughly 400 feet along straps per Pike and terminates

[11:59] currently at this location here so

[12:03] the um

[12:05] you know from a sanitary sewer perspective

[12:09] the um ideally we want to take advantage of gravity

[12:17] um so we looked at the Topography of the area you know is there a uh the ability

[12:23] to extend grab the sewer up that hill you know that does appear to be that you

[12:28] know we can't extend gravity sewer up to the high point of the Hill along the

[12:32] Strasbourg Pike and then

[12:35] um beyond the height we can't get the water uphill unless we

[12:40] Pump It so there are there is a means of individual pumps on properties with

[12:47] uh that would lift that water and pump it up to the high point of the gravity

[12:51] sewer system on the far side of the Hill as you head

[12:54] south on strasbour Pike along a stream Crossing

[12:57] so conceptually you know we worked with the Sewer Authority to come up with a

[13:03] plan to say yes you know there is a feasible means

[13:07] of providing Sewer Service along strasbour Pike through a main extension

[13:12] and the Sewer Authority board then said okay well

[13:16] before we do anything we want to contact the residents invite them here to a

[13:19] meeting to see if anyone else is having issues

[13:24] along the section of the Strat along this area of Strasburg Pike

[13:29] you know get some feedback because it is something they're evaluating you know

[13:34] there is costs associated with the extension of the sanitary sewer system

[13:40] here for this and it's not just Authority costs and for seven Mains but

[13:45] then there's also a cost here for the residents

[13:48] um for installation of piping on your property hooked up

[13:52] in addition to that you know quarterly sewer fees uh and tapping fees to tie

[13:58] into the system so that's initial high level estimate of

[14:03] the work that's been done thus far just to see if it is feasible because

[14:09] again the super Authority is tasked with

[14:13] looking at the buying a sanitary sewer system or providing stand through Sewer

[14:18] Service to basically protect you know make sure

[14:23] you know residents have a means of connection and protecting the

[14:27] environment what's a Mill Creek that's there and we don't want sewage going

[14:31] into the street from that aspect

[14:37] uh Hutch if you want to add anything else here

[14:41] um Township manager I had my thanks for coming this evening as I said was said

[14:49] in the letter that went out from the authority and everybody else

[14:54] so any anything that would contaminate the groundwater that would affect Wells

[15:00] could potentially have a health impact on anybody out there so that's another

[15:03] reason to consider having a sanitary sewer system that serves the properties

[15:08] out there um

[15:12] as Matt said you know they've done a preliminary design I think you estimated

[15:16] a total cost for installation low cost uh for installation

[15:21] um is you know 1.5 or 1.7 million dollars

[15:30] of the system with what we're looking at and

[15:37] um in Plant Peter Township does have a

[15:42] mandatory sewer connection ordinance uh generally what that ordinance says is if

[15:48] sanitary sewer service becomes available in front of your property

[15:52] and your structure primary structure is within 150 feet of that

[15:59] you're required to connect to that system within a certain time period

[16:04] um if your structure primary structure is

[16:08] outside of that distance then it's an optional connection to the

[16:12] system if this project was to happen

[16:17] um and Sewer Service was Superman wasn't intended to be extended along Strasbourg

[16:23] Pike or within that 150 foot area the County ordinance would require a

[16:29] connection to that Syria to that soon yeah I think the other piece of

[16:34] information that I want you to be aware of would be the roughly climbing of you

[16:40] know what this project would look like in terms of time if it does go forward

[16:44] so there's still a lot of design work that would have to happen the

[16:48] engineering work to prepare plans to build the system Strasburg Pike is a

[16:53] state highway so it turned out to be permanence of change from PennDOT

[16:58] to operate in there right away and build a system

[17:03] so that process of design and permitting for project could proceed is going to

[17:11] take what would you guess matter 18 months

[17:14] here probably 12 to 18 months

[17:19] again at that period of time passed before we hear the point where then the

[17:24] authorities would be bidding a project to get a contractor out there to do the

[17:28] work on this is the time element involved in that as well

[17:32] um and then I'm sure you probably haven't even

[17:37] estimated that length of time to construct at this point uh

[17:42] it's probably anywhere from six months to a year yeah

[17:46] so we could be you know two and a half years

[17:51] before it could be at a point where we'd be asking those who are required to

[17:56] connect to connect so that's that's a rough estimate of

[18:02] that time frame at this point yeah the authority recognizes

[18:07] um you know there's opportunity for funding from

[18:11] their standpoint for this project so um at they're Vindicated that they're

[18:18] going after grant funding to help cover their portion of the cost associated

[18:23] with this through

[18:26] County Market funds I'll be submitting an application for that for that process

[18:31] as well to see if there are any funds available that

[18:35] can help reduce the cost um the costs themselves

[18:40] uh the in the past on sewer extension projects in the township there's been a

[18:46] assessment charged for each connection to the systems that has in the

[18:51] tournament as far as what would be done here

[18:54] the first Overland stages here

[19:00] generally how the sewer extension project would work is

[19:05] there's a sanitary sewer main being either a gravity line with manholes or

[19:11] at the pressure line that would be installed in Strasburg Pike

[19:16] and then there's like be a smaller pipe that comes off of that

[19:20] that would extend from that main line back to at least the right-of-way line

[19:25] on either side of straps with the price of glutes in the wounds that are out

[19:29] and that boss to install those items would be part of the authorities project

[19:34] of what they've installed and then from that point there back to

[19:40] the house that would be a clause that would be the

[19:43] responsibility of the homeowners and working with plumbers there for

[19:47] installation of that the

[19:52] the there are different funding options different

[19:58] funding programs available for invest that can help uh

[20:02] with the cost of the individual homeowners uh their lateral extension

[20:08] from that point back to the home yeah if this project was four we can

[20:13] certainly get information out to see what those programs are and get that to

[20:16] the residents there for that process [Music]

[20:19] um for those homes that are on the pressure

[20:22] line and require a grinder pump um what a grinder pump Basin is is a

[20:29] it's a tank that gets this fall in the ground outside of the home

[20:33] the tank is uh three foot of diameter and 8 feet deep I

[20:40] believe that's your tank system there so what you would see from the surface is

[20:44] basically a three foot diameter plastic lid

[20:48] there that would be where the tanks that's underground knit within that it

[20:53] has a pump and that pump is designed to reduce any

[20:57] of the solids

[21:01] itself and pumping it into the Uber system for that purpose

[21:09] so the township they maintained the residential grinder pumps so if

[21:16] there was a problem with that point that he was down you guys maintained grinder

[21:20] pumps up to I think three connections for residential or four four so you have

[21:26] a multi residential units foreign

[21:42] uh for those residents with the pump though there is a cost of electricity to

[21:48] power that pump as well that would need to be tied into your

[21:52] power system for yourself

[22:01] I guess yeah the authorities looking for feedback and

[22:05] questions that we can try to answer at this point

[22:10] but the one one point of feedback that I guess I think would be helpful is

[22:16] looking at this going forward would be to know if anybody does have

[22:21] sure service needs in a basement because the

[22:29] level of service that would go out in the roads you know might not be low

[22:33] enough to assure a basement facility so you know just by showing my hands if

[22:40] you don't mind because anybody have things in the basement that require a

[22:43] sanitary

[22:47] okay yes okay so most

[22:52] so and what's shown here exhibits I see you've taken some

[22:57] we've just done an approximation at this time if the project moves forward

[23:02] you know we would go through a design element there we'll read you know like

[23:06] to come out to the properties that actually collect the elevations of that

[23:09] information so we can cultural design system

[23:11] capture those elements to make sure that you know we can

[23:16] provide that service to you as this right now the system is designed so that

[23:23] it pumps it from downstairs at that sewer up into the other plank which goes

[23:28] out to the center system and then it goes through two different two other

[23:32] tanks before it gets to another pump that just pumps the watering

[23:41] that's leaving your house the elevation of that bite

[23:46] and make sure that we you know can pick that pipe up and run it out to the main

[23:50] line yeah because you would have to they're in the package back

[23:55] and around the side to the front which is close to one side so that's that's

[24:00] the type of information we want to collect or know and say okay it makes

[24:03] sense to run that line on one side of your house or the other and what are

[24:08] some money items to avoid here's the other thing is the system is fairly new

[24:13] so that symbolic expense but that whole system in there and now

[24:20] it were forced to connect to this and that's additional expenses

[24:26] and a lot of us are just Social Security and stuff and that's basically the only

[24:33] income that kind of coming into understanding

[24:38] um I think that's where as I mentioned there are some other programs I think

[24:43] and best as and best of the state agencies it may have some programs that

[24:48] are available to help individual homeowners

[24:53] providing research criteria for those situations

[24:58] of the septic system um it's important to us a few months ago

[25:04] because you've had meetings we'll be finding out now and it's

[25:10] incredibly frustrating because we've owned our house for 13 years never had a

[25:14] problem and now wherever you put this wherever when they call it the extension

[25:19] whatever we might be forced to connect we've never had an issue with our septic

[25:24] so I think it's unfairs you're punishing us for someone else's failure give us

[25:29] the choice if you're going to put this by our house

[25:32] like you said fixed income Day Care mortgage everything like that some of

[25:37] these residents can't afford it even if you opt for help you might make too much

[25:41] money you know what I mean so give us the choice we live here take the money

[25:46] put it somewhere where it's needed clean up Walmart clean up the creek behind our

[25:50] house why do something that doesn't need done

[25:54] for everybody and if there's funds available but

[25:58] needed for sewer why wasn't the homeowner that needed the

[26:03] facilities told about the funds

[26:06] they said we want to bring to this you know sorry

[26:12] digging times of speed so two jobs

[26:17] because my wife had a sense of approximity

[26:21] bills we have two thousand dollars reports 1869 Healthcare is up it's my

[26:30] kids are talking about allergies and reactive ingredients

[26:36] so we just upgraded the PC system and she doesn't spend the rest of our

[26:41] savings which was eleven thousand dollars

[26:44] so we could have an airstrike

[26:49] because it said which means I have no replaceable

[27:01] process is as we were doing

[27:05] we found the original Builders contact information the contact is

[27:10] the installation for and other things previous owner maintained this septic

[27:15] system every year you put in the enzymes he had

[27:21] such a navigator

[27:24] everything

[27:29] I understand that you know sometimes people are gonna say you know believe me

[27:34] I got 400 checking account that's what I typically carry every

[27:40] month so my paycheck is out the door right

[27:44] you know ever since I'm not trying to be political or anything like that but ever

[27:48] since fighting Administration by the administration chat up kill costs

[27:54] struggling to make ends meet too and

[27:59] again if this homeowner needed help why wasn't they were made aware of funds

[28:04] you know and I'm not trying to assist anybody I'm not trying to be

[28:08] disrespectful okay if you want sewer hey that's up on you

[28:15] I don't want to be a part of a system that contaminates the waterways because

[28:19] it's a combined service operations which in heavy explosion

[28:25] well not free slam Peter ours is completely separated it shows like

[28:31] our sanitary is just in a sanitary system the city of Lancaster does have a

[28:35] combined system we do not okay so what happens

[28:39] in the city system

[28:43] um if we haven't we go out and treat it

[28:50] [Music] and we have responsibilities for that

[28:54] that's supposed to be a very rare event okay so that makes it

[29:00] so that makes sense who's responsible

[29:04] well it depends on the circumstances involved so let's say about a lot of

[29:09] information who's responsible for that because I've

[29:12] seen multiple stories

[29:17] mobile

[29:20] it's about four hours imagine

[29:25] this is a minor leadership you know too long

[29:32] did that having two young kids sleeping two hours and working double overtime

[29:36] and a second job

[29:39] so once again

[29:43] stand in my account because you know

[29:48] and if it fails whatsoever can't get a compared immediately

[29:52] regardless of the cost because I respect my neighbors I wonder

[29:57] what damn thing is you know I guess I wanted

[30:01] people

[30:06] okay you're opposed to having to be forced to

[30:11] connect to senatorship right you can land on that map that's to be

[30:16] determined to know if we're 150 feet from that

[30:22] it's generally for this system it would be from the right-of-way line so

[30:27] if this map here doesn't show the right way line we haven't got to that point of

[30:30] the design effort because it's just a study but it's generally if you take a

[30:33] look where the telephone pole is that's a pretty powerful that's pretty close to

[30:38] prosecution

[30:44] probably 100 year old trees on the property I don't think you want to get

[30:47] into my house I'm thinking about my driveway

[30:51] you know it's not going through the the playroom that I've just installed in the

[30:55] basement

[31:00] I mean we've made no decisions yet that's why we

[31:05] um guarantee we have it you know that's why we call the meeting we'll input like

[31:10] your folks and everybody else in here um we came to us months ago that the one

[31:18] they want property up uh and I'd be willing

[31:22] to get some sort of donation if it's somewhere that needs the septic service

[31:25] a little bit and I'll let baby Charlie not talk to this but when I picked up at

[31:29] the meeting their system's failing and there's no other option for a system on

[31:34] their property just because of it not hurricane correctly

[31:38] from what we were told they their only solution at this point is they hold and

[31:42] take but we made notices at all which we want input from here and we're going to

[31:48] take it from here to see what so if you run the system obviously if you do the

[31:51] letter side regardless

[31:56] right the assessment yeah the assessment part if if there is a

[32:01] front foot assessment then yes everybody pays the front foot assessment Okay so

[32:07] obviously I wouldn't have some gluten crown

[32:11] s I have pictures here

[32:14] stuff that are retrieved I pulled 455 infant rooms out three

[32:21] patio chairs a basketball a waste management trash can

[32:27] thank you okay so they can get the services they

[32:33] need to get um

[32:37] that should be my choice that should not be banished

[32:41] [Music] second a couple questions

[32:45] um first off can I surmise that any home that's marked with a grinder pump or a

[32:51] gravity system notation is within 150 feet of the right way

[33:00] generally there may be one or two that I think this lot back here when we went

[33:06] back and evaluated that was outside it I think but generally every other one

[33:09] that's correct and did you gravity that was just our initial first

[33:16] uh review at it you know as we if we were to go further in design we

[33:22] would further refine that to determine if it can be a gravity connection or or

[33:26] not our customer well now my second question would be

[33:31] um based on I can see where the uh line

[33:36] stops for where you have service Carmike we flipped in our house since uh 2000.

[33:43] and we were here when the bridge was replaced and at that time

[33:47] you had considered taking part of our property for eminent

[33:52] domain in order to put uh alleviate on redoing the bridge and going around the

[33:58] back that got tabled and you redid the bridge

[34:01] and apparently redid this uh sewer and is it public water as well

[34:08] that came through with the sewer line up to that first double wide do you know

[34:12] that no there's no public water there there's no public water but the Old Mill

[34:17] shop and the people that own it and their barn and the first double wide

[34:22] I'll have East Lampeter sewer at this point

[34:27] is that correct if I'm seeing this group yes okay no

[34:48] were on a single septic system and I see now one of them is one of them

[34:54] is it's my question to everyone that was making the decisions at that point

[35:00] what predicated your decision to stop the sewer

[35:04] going through at that juncture and I consider us the land of the time for God

[35:11] because not only did we not have public water we don't have public sewer we

[35:16] maintain our own systems we don't have natural gas but yet folks on either side

[35:21] of us and we need help and the Old Mill shop excuse me the old middle states

[35:28] there are markets and so at this point I at one time checked to see if we could

[35:33] get Natural Gas and they told us we they had no

[35:37] intention of coming through with natural gas if I wanted it wouldn't be 115 000

[35:43] for us to have a door so I I guess my confusion lies in who's making these

[35:49] decisions how they decide who is and who isn't

[35:54] and today's Point why are we talking about

[35:59] doing this when up until now it's been okay that we haven't had any of that

[36:04] everything we do I'm with him about supporting whoever's

[36:09] having promised I'm absolutely victim but I would just ask for the judgment to

[36:15] be all compensated and at the time they put the bridge fix

[36:20] the bridge and put the sewer through to that point we weren't taught to adapted

[36:24] at all so I would ask why sure the limit of

[36:30] PennDOT's construction project related to the bridge stopped the deathly

[36:37] instruction project to build that far okay

[36:42] and then at that point you didn't even consider the idea that you might at some

[36:46] point have to include the rest of the way of the time

[36:51] forgot that's why it was extended to that point

[36:55] for consideration of the future okay I have another question

[37:01] if if you're standing there if you reach right up to that one corner there you

[37:07] see the house that has like the little extra Square driveway off of it right

[37:12] there yes okay in front of that is my house

[37:15] not that one yeah it's my own man okay where that little square driveway is

[37:21] right anyway

[37:33] yeah the one over there now

[37:37] the property that lies beyond that little square cutout for a driveway

[37:43] back to the creek I also own them it's uh about 1.9 Acres

[37:51] now they come through with the sewer line to my home

[37:55] will they be able to continue back to do it through the property in the back but

[38:01] there's way further than 150. so for

[38:06] this property here if this project was to come through

[38:11] under Township regulations they would not be required to connect

[38:15] um talking with the authority board earlier they said they may still drop a

[38:22] line a lateral connection to the right way that if they so choose to connect

[38:28] now or they have a problem in the future it's there for them to connect to

[38:33] okay so in other words if they had to do my house

[38:38] uh and we'd come back along that driveway uh this slide here is just the

[38:44] concept line depending upon where your system is how it comes out

[38:53] the end through like a Car Corner

[38:57] Alternatives that's back into there and it comes out to the journey so we

[39:02] can take a look at each property and then make a determine try to determine

[39:06] the best reality from where your system where your fight leaves your house to

[39:10] get out towards the road this this is more just a

[39:15] it's again it's a concept you know this line can be located anywhere along your

[39:20] property that makes the best stand for connection one of the exactly failed

[39:27] not one of these houses so wherever failed is either more that way so why

[39:33] have us right here who didn't fail it's not this stretch I can tell you

[39:38] that

[39:41] that's where the sewer is that's where the connection point is in the sewer

[39:44] system you can't you have to have the flow going

[39:49] but we don't know everyone's failed we know of at least one and there may be

[39:54] others um but we don't know

[39:58] so in order to connect into the existing system from the flow to get there you

[40:02] have to start it so you're not going to join with Wesley

[40:06] and Peter at the top of the hill at the stoplight they have public water or

[40:11] public sewer up there don't they not until you get substantially

[40:15] underground strasbourne to Pike not at the community therapy Whitney hill

[40:21] development have a public show that goes off of Windy Hill Road right

[40:27] there that big development that you call that house

[40:30] yes yes there's probably public Sewer back there

[40:35] in that development but that's a different system that wouldn't be part

[40:39] of this

[40:45] man I just have a question

[40:51] um

[40:56] adopted many years ago as the uh I'm gonna go by

[41:04] e like I think they need to be looking at

[41:08] every piece of us when you can kind of houses that are 150p the road

[41:14] there's a rich people in general right they're the ones that have the money and

[41:18] they're the ones closer to the Mill Creek

[41:20] if their house is 150 people so I think that should be called that

[41:26] too why the 150 feet you need to think about that

[41:29] Michigan

[41:42] yeah I'm sure yes

[41:48] [Music]

[41:55] it sounds like there's a property that's failing oops

[42:00] there's at least one that we know of

[42:12] today so he or she's able to wait two or three

[42:15] years for the connections they so their current method of disposal is they have

[42:21] a that anything that goes out of their fight

[42:24] out of their house goes into that tank and there's a level sensor in there that

[42:28] when it fills up and they get an alarm and they have a

[42:32] company that comes in and pumps it out or is the holding tank failing the

[42:37] holding tank is the temporary solution so the drain Fields yeah because

[42:47] um

[42:49] there's no regulations for that require requirements for a drain field they have

[42:54] to have certain um soil conditions

[42:58] slope issues so the they went out to I guess investigate and they said there's

[43:04] no room here to put a replacement sewer system in especially compare the

[43:08] solution is a holding tank system

[43:14] long tanks are safe but they're not a permanent long-term solution so depth

[43:23] anything else the permanent solution can be put in so they're in essence a

[43:28] watertight vessel so the water is consistent house is stored in there

[43:31] until a company comes in and pumps that tank

[43:41] um

[43:47] because this one seems extremely I mean we put in new houses that have subject

[43:52] systems everywhere along the Mill Creek

[43:56] and maybe they need to be monitored more carefully maybe that's something that

[44:00] um the township should look at maybe every three years when we're pumping out

[44:04] our tanks we have to give a report that our tank is safe or you know what I mean

[44:08] like are there other options and how we looked into them

[44:12] what was reported to us is that they look at other options and there are none

[44:17] other than requesting a connection to public sewer

[44:20] is what's been reported

[44:26] is that was items that were evaluated with the

[44:30] township sewage enforcement officer um

[44:33] so I think they would have investigated to

[44:36] see if there's other Solutions there besides the holding tank because the

[44:41] holding tank can become very expensive to pump out you know if you're doing

[44:44] that every couple weeks

[44:48] are

[44:53] a septic system and it's brain fields how far did that

[44:59] have to be from

[45:03] I don't have that answer here with me

[45:08] there was a 200 foot probation right

[45:13] where there couldn't be anything built along the Stream

[45:17] yeah

[45:24] okay and um

[45:28] it seems to me that right over their body

[45:37] uh that that's right on the crease but there are some houses over there

[45:43] how they get permits for them to be within 200 people on a new development

[45:49] and then 200 feet of that Creek that's in Wesley Peter Township so I

[45:54] think we have a teacher for that it's a different township yeah

[46:06] septic system

[46:11] double wide pictures they have to be 200 feet from the creek for their septic did

[46:17] not be how did you ever get 100 feet between

[46:21] their well and their septic system but get that guy

[46:27] I don't have an answer to that

[46:32] yeah yeah I was just gonna ask um so I'm not really

[46:37] completely but is this from the bridge does that go from that one building all

[46:43] the way to the light so this this would extend

[46:48] um the connection point would be at this location here and then we would extend

[46:53] South Long straws were quick so it's a continuation here and then here's the

[46:59] intersection with Windy Hill so if the person isn't in this area that

[47:04] had the failure isn't it possible that they could connect to the one that's

[47:08] already operational would be easier for them to

[47:12] connect there so for East Lampeter Township our point of connection

[47:17] is at that location there um

[47:21] the other developed the other development that's

[47:24] down here that's not within Eastland Peter we don't have rights to access

[47:29] Texas

[47:37] so in terms of actual getting this service there you can't do gravity that

[47:42] way so but it is the one that failed is along there

[47:47] different

[47:55] yeah so uh blade Everly is my wife Emily we live with 169 Stratford Pike uh first

[48:02] of all thank you guys for having this meeting just appreciate if you need to

[48:05] be heard and you guys have a hard job so thank you for what you guys are doing

[48:09] um we had a really unique situation so I'm not sure if we're like against or

[48:14] for this and my wife can definitely pop in here on the resume but we go

[48:19] remodeling our house and put an additional on our current septic system

[48:23] is okay or what to do and it got hurt and they're really installing it in two

[48:29] weeks um so you know it's 20 grand we're about

[48:32] to dive into and it just kind of freaks us

[48:36] out like this new system in and then two and a half years

[48:42] so if we know this is going to happen we kind of would like to know yeah because

[48:47] like we just don't want to know what our best solution is maybe I'm asking for a

[48:50] suggestion like you know then we are house curved and we can put a new system

[48:55] into like in two and a half years it's going to stick to like just let that

[48:58] tank sit in the ground and get the you know jump into a new one so like is a

[49:02] holding 10 to our future of the next three years

[49:05] because again let's order this in a tough spot like we would hook up and we

[49:09] if we could but we'll do more frequent Parts

[49:15] oh yeah it's still good

[49:19] um we can't use that current system so it's

[49:24] like can we have it on disaster we have exceptional modes to use that current

[49:29] system until the sewer comes through did we just go to septic for two and a half

[49:33] years cost do we do a holding tank for a

[49:37] couple years so we're just in a really unique decision so that's your

[49:41] suggestions thank you

[49:45] so yeah you've got a circumstance there that I will begin

[49:50] advice too to give information as to what is the work is looking at

[49:57] it

[50:01] yeah it is as uh Mr stump said that Authority has many decisions at this

[50:06] point to do this project so we don't know

[50:11] three years 10 years okay

[50:19] is everything graphene or

[50:26] no not all starting at Woody Hill

[50:31] um so Chris Carlson here so you're going downhill

[50:35] back until you get to the top of the year the

[50:40] stretch that stretch of air would be a low

[50:45] pressure line so all of those homes along this stretch here

[50:50] and then from the hilltop down if there was a house

[50:55] that set lower than the new Gravity system

[51:00] then that house there exactly but I think

[51:14] I think the next question is would the authority

[51:17] wave but I want to be able to touch it and you know obviously we still pay a

[51:24] share starting cost

[51:29] I think that's a question that the punt

[51:34] The Authority you have to follow the couch coordinates

[51:38] I think ultimately in the township supervisors would have to make that

[51:41] decision

[51:44] from supervisors seaweed

[51:49] public sector

[51:53] that's the third selling point of Arts location ease of access

[51:59] much more than well said and we bought our house

[52:07] so I think it's we can we can certainly uh convey the message you're always

[52:12] welcome to come to a board supervisors meeting express your concern about that

[52:17] so um if you have to worry decides to go

[52:21] forward we'll share that information and give

[52:25] you the opportunity to address somewhere

[52:30] why

[52:42] thank you

[52:48] definitely want to help someone because

[52:53] you know it's it's

[52:58] no it's a dignity issue but it's it's

[53:01] concerned

[53:08] this and that um

[53:18] about other yeah

[53:34] you know um

[53:50] breaking yeah that was everything

[53:56] sewers and water mains and stuff together and we guarantee that

[54:00] everything is going to work you know it's like you know before but

[54:06] if we lose power something in and a half hour

[54:13] and you know then I have access to the first time access

[54:19] sorry

[54:23] what's our cost we have to go

[54:40] [Music]

[54:49] second question I understand is

[54:55] responsible to get rid of that

[54:59] generally if the sand Mound or his drain field

[55:03] um there's no requirement that anything you've done with that it's your septic

[55:07] tank that you have there that is for the same amount

[55:10] generally that requirement is that will get pumped out

[55:14] and then that tank would get filled in uh

[55:21] you don't have any route estimates about how much does it cost I mean because

[55:25] you've probably done this before to other areas you know yes yes I mean

[55:30] we've done this elsewhere but it it fluctuates so much I mean if

[55:35] you're a house that only has to go 15 feet per hookup or something that's 150

[55:41] there's a wide range of costs that Etc

[55:48] and we have the full energy we can't just get out and be they have to be

[55:54] emptied out until three tags yeah yeah

[56:01] um so

[56:04] at the meeting I'm assuming that we've had for them okay

[56:09] um as far as timelines from making a decision like are you guys planning to

[56:13] have more meetings as far as like opening up to the community like like

[56:17] tonight where is this kind of like the one you're kind of using this as to

[56:22] going it forward and formulating like a date that you guys are hoping to vote on

[56:26] it um just curious like what's the timeline

[56:29] with that I don't know any of this is a timeline

[56:32] you know we want to talk about it I think everybody's input is consideration

[56:39] where we go from there but again no decisions been made and this is the

[56:43] input we want obviously folks strongly against it um and uh

[56:48] but no no timeline at this point the only thing I can add to that is as Matt

[56:54] indicated The Authority tends to make applications for grandparents

[57:00] so there's a timeline on that got to submit an application by the end of

[57:04] August and then when the county would make a decision on funding that project

[57:09] or earning month um probably too long after that but

[57:14] might be a couple of months then they have more information on

[57:18] whether or not they've got grant funding so but you think that would play into

[57:23] the other words fine would this be like the last then

[57:27] for like a Township meeting or making that decision

[57:32] yeah I think this is our our only meeting we're going to have with

[57:36] residents I mean that's the only thing we had planned but you can always come

[57:41] to any meeting we have if you want to discuss anything or find out where we're

[57:44] at or anything right or one Zoom I mean you could sorry this is my first one to

[57:49] one of these I don't know if these things work so thank you guys the

[57:54] authority meets the second Wednesday of everything

[58:01] great thank you is there any talk of following this up

[58:07] with coming through with water then and uh not by Ellison city of Lancaster owns

[58:14] and operates the water system that does exist and it ships so

[58:19] they would be the ones

[58:23] everybody would be um

[58:25] just wonder if it's going to cut through the heels of this particular

[58:32] yeah um I have I have anything remotely that would indicate that

[58:40] I know sometimes

[58:44] that's all here somebody

[58:53] yeah yeah

[59:06] myself you know and

[59:15] I I'm bored

[59:18] 74 years old yeah

[59:27] I'd be glad to get your information we could find access to that site without

[59:31] going through the creek so I could take your information we can plan and clean

[59:35] up

[59:40] you look for volunteers um computer sign up there's an island

[59:45] out there we can get access to it

[59:58] thank you you're going down

[1:00:18] and with volunteers and doing cleanups like that it gets credits uh to clean up

[1:00:24] the streams and clean up the bay so thank you

[1:00:43] I'm sure but it's been many years they've been

[1:00:48] the nurseries right um

[1:01:00] brings the design to do that because all the leaves the questions aren't grown up

[1:01:04] to be sealed so I'll get your information

[1:01:10] thank you Museum Stroudsburg Pike our neighbors we

[1:01:14] all take care of each other whether it's new money you need food and something

[1:01:17] for your kids I think we all kind of are on the same stance where we don't want

[1:01:22] this if we don't have I mean here issues

[1:01:31] he's done to literally 20 plus thousands into her second

[1:01:35] he's on the Facebook comments his life is also she's older too like we don't

[1:01:41] want to do something that we can't afford

[1:01:45] can I just ask everybody here as everyone that's here does anyone have a

[1:01:50] problem with their current system is everything working and can you just put

[1:01:54] your hands up to say who's this is everybody's system working

[1:01:58] foreign

[1:02:26] [Music] well if Minds do fail I would like to

[1:02:30] hold another weekend for all of these people or GoFundMe that will be to

[1:02:35] prepare it

[1:02:39] before exactly applications here I'm guessing this

[1:02:44] homeowner um

[1:02:49] right now it's Chris session what happened like I

[1:02:58] see those increases in everything six months 24 hours a week

[1:03:06] which kill our savings is dramatic

[1:03:11] air conditioning because aren't both they wouldn't fill

[1:03:16] it with pretty high

[1:03:22] like I said we're almost up in this this family out of this this neighbor

[1:03:27] I just don't want to catch the bill I have the reliability of the system

[1:03:33] I know people will say there's sewers are reliable but there's just too much

[1:03:37] negative news on the sewer system the laws

[1:03:40] and you know I'm pretty sure

[1:03:45] the more stretchy Community we have here I mean we've been forgotten for how many

[1:03:50] years until this happened and one failed System since we live here for 13.

[1:03:55] analysis causing this

[1:04:01] other comments other questions

[1:04:07] what do you guys do probably make a decision we got another letter in the

[1:04:10] mail the decision

[1:04:13] yes and again you would know that once probably

[1:04:20] I would say we would talk pretty heavily about it in our next meeting which is

[1:04:23] the second Wednesday in August which is foreign

[1:04:49] I think it was important for you to come in today and share your thoughts and

[1:04:54] your feelings with us so that helps us to take that input into our

[1:04:58] decision-making process we appreciate your time today to come out and share

[1:05:02] that with us oh

[1:05:24] thank you

[1:05:28] yes sir

[1:05:36] hold on

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