[0:00] meeting on Monday evening the 10th of August 2026

[0:06] and it is 7 o'clock on the button. I'll call the meeting to order and I'll ask

[0:12] the mayor to lead us in prayer followed by the pledge of allegiance.

[0:20] God, we thank you for this day and for all of us assemble together with doing

[0:24] business within this burrow of Edstone. We pray for the residents and all those

[0:29] who work within the burrow. Pray for safety and peace. We ask that you

[0:33] conduct us and allow us to conduct ourselves in an appropriate manner. We

[0:37] thank you for all that you have done and all that you will do. In your name we

[0:42] pray. Amen. >> Amen.

[0:43] » I aliance to the flag >> of the United States of America and to

[0:48] the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with

[0:53] liberty and justice for all.

[0:59] » Madag. May I have the roll call, please?

[1:04] » Here.

[1:08] President >> here

[1:14] » councelor Johnson >> here

[1:17] » here. >> President

[1:19] » here. >> Mayor

[1:20] » here.

[1:24] » Few announcements this evening. uh council met in executive session prior

[1:29] to tonight's meeting and I will since I was not an attendant at executive I'll

[1:33] yield either to our solicitor or to our vice president just to give us a brief

[1:38] on which items of topics were discussed in executive

[1:43] » uh yes executive session uh matters of litigation or potential litigation uh

[1:49] personnel and real estate were discussed

[1:57] Considering that we've got a smaller crowd than we had yesterday, I will

[2:01] forgo the reading of the review of the public meeting, the quorum.

[2:07] And I will introduce to council again uh our planner from CH Planning, uh

[2:15] Barbara Kelly. and I asked her to attend this evening to give us a quick update

[2:20] on the work that CH planning uh has done to date. And I also just kind of want to

[2:27] remind council that uh per their proposal will be working in five

[2:32] separate tasks. Uh task one would be existing condition evaluation.

[2:39] Task two would be board and leadership engagement. Task three would be public

[2:44] and staff engagement. Task four would be the development of the strategic and

[2:49] comp plan and task five would be the adoption of such strategic and comp

[2:54] plan. And I don't want to steal too much of Miss Kelly's thunder. However, I do

[2:58] believe that she is working on task one and task two concurrently. Uh so so task

[3:05] two being board and leadership engagement. Uh what I would like uh the

[3:09] members of council [snorts] to do is make sure that you take an opportunity

[3:14] to introduce yourself. Again, I think most of you have met Barbara before, but

[3:19] she has been doing a series of 101 ones uh kind of to discuss what is important

[3:27] uh for the members of the board and how they see the future of Eddie Stone

[3:32] unfolding. And without further ado, I'll yield the floor to Miss Kelly. Thank

[3:37] you. >> Can everybody hear me?

[3:39] » Yes. >> Okay, great.

[3:42] Um, yeah, I think I've been here a few times, so I think you you know what's

[3:48] going on, what's going to happen. But I do want to go over and ask a couple

[3:51] things. Now, uh, one of the things that, uh, our staff does existing conditions.

[3:57] Existing conditions are what's your comp plan now? What's your strategic plan?

[4:01] Who's here? What's your demographics? What is your zoning? What's your

[4:05] planning? What's your all that stuff. We get it together and

[4:09] we put it on boards for the public to look at and we say, "Hey, what do you

[4:13] want?" You know, what do you see in the future? Some things are, I mean, pretty

[4:18] good and some things are like, you know, we want a golf cart right next to the

[4:22] school, you know, that So, we try really hard to listen and figure out, you know,

[4:29] what's in the best interest of the township. I'm sorry.

[4:33] Um, the other thing is that We do that

[4:39] through, you know, other things like planning commission.

[4:43] But when we get to the point where we need your help, we hopefully you can

[4:48] identify um who would that be? Who would be the person to um talk to the person

[4:55] to talk to recation? And I'm sure I know that already, but I just want to make

[5:00] sure. I don't want to drop any feathers on this person is this. No, I want to

[5:05] make sure the biggest thing is before I even um start doing the board and

[5:10] leadership engagement is that I need a point point of contact person. U it

[5:16] could be two people one person but I need one person to say hey I need you

[5:22] know this is what we're doing is we need the only reason why I want one person

[5:26] because if one person can actually speak for everybody that's fine but it's like

[5:31] if five people are telling me what to do and they're all different it's going to

[5:35] delay the process. Does that make sense? So, um, it's really important that that

[5:40] point of contact person could be one or two, but that one point of contact

[5:44] person is someone that you feel that would represent the group. Okay, if that

[5:49] makes sense. [clears throat] Yeah. Um, board and

[5:53] leadership engagement. I'm trying to do that now. Um, I we just got together.

[6:00] Um, the Do you have the original contract sign? Okay. Okay. So, we're

[6:06] trying to get um what do you want to do? Do you want to

[6:11] do and I like doing it individually, but I have kind of done that a little bit

[6:15] beforehand. So, do you want to do two members or three members or two members

[6:20] together? Two members together or things like that. So, what are the thing that's

[6:25] one of the things that I like to do is each member. But if you don't want to do

[6:30] that, which is fine, I could do it to 2011. I know the sunshine

[6:35] You can't do majority meeting. Some people like doing it two or three.

[6:40] Sorry. Um um together and some people like to do it individually. I could do

[6:45] it Zoom or I can do it in person. I'm okay either way. Okay. Um also

[6:52] one of the things that I want to know is who are the people in the community and

[6:56] who are the people on staff that you want me to interview? Of course I think

[7:00] you know I went with the chief. He was the longest member here. Um, so I

[7:05] figured it was important to hear way back history, you know what I mean? It

[7:09] was just history stuff. So that was kind of and it was fixed. It was like just so

[7:16] um hopefully um I'll have the opportunity within the next couple weeks

[7:23] to do that. Um if you want I can stay tonight and set up meeting or if you

[7:28] want I can call you. Uh I can give you my number you can call me. Um or we can

[7:34] go to point of contact whichever you like. A lot of people do it different.

[7:37] So I don't want to bring this is how I do it. I can tell you how I do it but

[7:43] I'd rather know how you want to do it. Okay. And we can make that decision.

[7:48] The other thing is public and staff engagement. Which staff do you want me

[7:52] to interview? That's important for me to interview. What do you think? Okay.

[7:58] That's your point of contact will tell me that.

[8:00] to me. That's fine. Um, and do you want when you [clears throat] talk about the

[8:05] public? Let's talk about the public. [laughter]

[8:08] I thought there was going to be more than THE PUBLIC HERE. EVERY TIME I CAME,

[8:11] there was like HUNDREDS OF [laughter] LIKE, WOW, THIS IS CRAZY. THE ONE TIME I

[8:15] WENT, RIGHT? OKAY. And so, I'd like to have you because you know the community.

[8:21] I'd like to know who in the community is really important to interview. Okay.

[8:25] Right? Because it's really important to to know you know them. I don't you know

[8:31] I know a few people but it's important that you tell me who are the people to

[8:36] really get to know who they are. Okay. Um I also like to do focus groups and

[8:40] focus groups would be your business. So, um your businesses um like two or

[8:48] three businesses that you think is really important for me to um know um

[8:52] and I can identify you can identify that if you want me to. Uh and then also your

[8:58] recreation your recreation group would be very good. Uh your I think you have a

[9:04] zoning group I think now. Um, so yours or economic development, one of the one

[9:09] or the other. And then any other group, you have a religious organization, you

[9:13] have, you know, you have a group that does a lot of of community service, you

[9:18] have a nonprofit group, any of those, you identify five of them, that would be

[9:22] great. Okay, you can identify five and I may go up to, you know, seven or eight,

[9:26] but if you can identify five of them, that would be wonderful. Okay? And you

[9:31] can, one of you or two of you can be involved in that. I have no problem with

[9:34] that. Well, the residents I would say it

[9:40] depends and and I'm I'm open. Okay. I'm open. I usually do around five to seven,

[9:46] but some I did 20. Okay. Depending on Oh my god, you have 10 people. You're

[9:52] really good. You really want them to be I don't mind that. And you could do it

[9:56] as a whole group and that would be good too because then they can, you know, go

[10:00] off each other, you know, unless this way. Unless you want this group and

[10:05] then this group to go there, you know, sometimes like that. So I like to do

[10:10] between five and 10. Okay. Um, now remember, we have public meetings. So

[10:16] the entire community is involved. There's like three or four of them.

[10:20] Okay. So everybody's involved and we actually do a survey to the entire

[10:24] community including the businesses, including developers and things like

[10:28] that. So that's really we do a survey to everyone.

[10:33] a good website or you don't have a good website.

[10:36] » You don't. Okay. >> It's a matter of opinion. [laughter]

[10:40] It's a matter of opinion. Some people are just

[10:43] » fine with the website [laughter] we currently have.

[10:46] » Other people want to see a complete and total revamp,

[10:48] » okay, >> of the website we currently have.

[10:51] » Okay. So, we can there's um what I did uh I did this during COVID. We called

[10:58] them chai chats. And basically what we did was we actually did chai um chats uh

[11:04] zoomed. So we did zoom like topics and stuff. U and that was great. Um but that

[11:09] was after that was kind of during and after the survey. Okay. But with the

[11:13] survey you really want to get them out. You really want to get them out. Maybe

[11:16] the fire company and the police. Sorry about this one. Didn't tell you guys but

[11:20] the fire company the police usually get to see people. They can you know um send

[11:24] it out. We'll actually create a little um Q code a QR code and you can put it

[11:30] on different businesses. You can do it in this the post office. You can do it.

[11:34] There's a your there's a lot of places to do it. Your school um the uh we

[11:40] actually get the school involved. We talk to the school districts and get

[11:43] them involved too. So we really do go above and beyond to get the people I

[11:50] knowing that it's there. Okay. Um, and the other thing is where do you want it?

[11:56] Okay, sometimes people want it at the township building, some people don't.

[11:59] So, it's up to you. Do you want to do it at a school district or a school? You

[12:04] want to do it at a a meeting room that has a really nice conference room. Uh,

[12:08] you want to do it at a nonprofits. Uh, we've done three or four of them at a

[12:12] nonprofit, which is nice because it's very neutral and very welcoming, that

[12:16] type of thing. So, you can think of a place that you want to do that. And you

[12:19] could do three or four. I think there's three of them I think in there or four

[12:23] of them, but I think three are really important. Um, so

[12:27] identify really good places to do that because that you'll get more people.

[12:32] Okay? And we'll talk about the times for them because you don't want all of them

[12:36] the same time. You don't want all of them during the day. You don't want them

[12:38] all during night. You might want to do one on the weekend. Okay? So, you want

[12:42] to get it where you get the most people. The especially the first one. The first

[12:47] one is like this is who we are. you know, this is our existing conditions

[12:51] and what do you want to see? That's the real big. Okay, second one's pretty

[12:56] good, too. But that first one, you want people there. Okay, does that make

[13:00] sense? I mean, because you really want a lot more information up front than later

[13:04] on. Um, but we do adjust. Okay, and that's the um public and staff um

[13:11] engagement. We do a lot more things with the public. Um, and we can get to that,

[13:16] you know, a little bit later, I think. Um, I'm trying to give you things to

[13:22] baby steps of I really need this. I need the point of contact. I need um, think

[13:26] about the places to have a public meeting. Think about what community

[13:30] groups that you want me to meet. Think about what leaders in the community you

[13:33] want. And they don't have to be a leader. They can be somebody who is that

[13:37] you're like really wealth of information. Okay. Um, think of your

[13:41] staff. Um, and do you and the other thing is what are some of the developers

[13:47] or businesses in the area? That's really important because that's the

[13:51] organization. Um, we're thinking the business use registration association.

[13:57] Who would be really good with that? That's because that's income for you.

[14:01] Um, recreation recreation because that's always something that people want.

[14:08] Um and then we get into the plan. Once we get all that information, then we

[14:13] start identifying what you want your comp plan and what you want

[14:17] strategically. Okay. Uh your infra the also during your sorry during your

[14:22] existing commissions we talk about your existing um infrastructure and that's

[14:27] everything police fire staff roads um storm water all that. And then when

[14:35] you're doing your comp plan, your strategic plan, it's really getting into

[14:38] okay, what what realistically can you do? What can you see? What do you want

[14:43] as a community? What do you want to see? And then we also I like putting together

[14:48] the funding sources. Here are some of the funding sources for each one of

[14:51] those things that you want to do. Okay, does that make sense? And then also the

[14:57] um toward the end is like your ordinances and things like that because

[15:01] then you don't know what you want yet until that. Does that make sense?

[15:05] » Uh, and then your adoption. And then that's the biggest thing, right? When

[15:09] you get the community up again back in and say, "Hey, this is what we're doing.

[15:13] This is what we're going to adopt." And then you it makes it a lot easier for

[15:16] you to adopt when everybody knows what you're adopting. Um, we're very very

[15:21] transparent. Uh we want to have everybody involved all stakeholders and

[15:26] please tell me any unique stakeholders I didn't mention that are important

[15:30] because um you know your community. Does that make sense?

[15:36] » Does it [laughter] does anybody have any questions?

[15:41] » Wow. No question. >> Well, I have a few questions letting

[15:46] everybody else have the opportunity to >> Okay. So, I know you've been working on

[15:51] a timeline from start to finish >> and if memory serves, I think this is

[15:56] kind of a 14, 16, 18 month process.

[16:01] » Yeah. >> Um, so, so just to kind of give the

[16:04] board an idea of, you know, how this is all going to unfold. Um, you know, we

[16:09] certainly are going to get started in 26.

[16:12] um a bulk of the of the work is going to be done in calendar year 27, but we'll

[16:18] also be pushing into 28 um for you know getting the final plan together, getting

[16:23] the adoption uh taken care of. So uh and I say these things from from a budgeting

[16:29] standpoint. Um what I can do is I can share with uh Franker Simpson the

[16:35] proposed um

[16:39] timeline for the different tasks and and and the budgeted dollars that CH

[16:44] planning has put together for >> uh completion of each of those tasks. So

[16:49] it it's certainly an expenditure that I think we've had this discussion before

[16:53] that is going to be spread out. It's not going to be a write a one lumpsum check,

[16:58] » right? Yeah. You don't want to do that. I now you do it as we do the work. Okay?

[17:03] We don't want to you don't pay us ahead of time. You pay us after. So when we're

[17:07] done part of the job, then you pay us. So

[17:10] then you and you have to sign off on it. Okay? Um the point of contact has to

[17:15] sign off on it. And it's important because I want to make sure it's done.

[17:19] Like I want to make sure that you're happy with the work before you know you

[17:24] sign off on it to get paid because I really don't want to do later on say,

[17:28] "Oh, wait a minute. We didn't do that. No, no, no, no. Let's do it. Let's get

[17:32] it done. And now there's certain things. I'll give you an example. There are

[17:36] certain things that you may something has to be delayed because of of another

[17:41] person like a PEDOT didn't come to a meeting. So, we have to meet with

[17:45] Pendot, you know, in two months. Okay, I [clears throat] get that. You know, that

[17:48] type of thing. But pretty much we get paid for what we do.

[17:53] » That make sense? And it's in the proposal how we get paid, too. So it's

[17:57] on that >> the series of public workshops.

[18:02] » Yes. >> How many are you anticipating?

[18:04] » I think it's four. >> Four,

[18:06] » I think. So it's in the um I should have uh Yeah, I think it's four. But we may

[18:11] do one more because of a couple projects, but I'm not sure.

[18:17] » Possibly. >> Possibly five, probably four. But

[18:19] remember, we're doing a lot of meetings in between,

[18:22] » right? >> See? Okay, let me explain something. You

[18:25] have four public meetings which is there's big meetings every day but we I

[18:30] think we build in monthly uh meetings with the steering committee. I like

[18:36] having a steering committee. So you need to figure out who you want on the

[18:39] steering committee. I know you can have three board members because you of the

[18:44] of the um executive session. I'm sorry. >> Yes. Thank you. Um, so you would do two

[18:52] and then >> or you need four to be a four.

[18:54] » Yeah, four. Okay, thank you. Some three, some four. Some uh So you could do

[19:00] three. Now you could you could switch them. Okay. Um you could do like

[19:05] [clears throat] you remember we're doing a comp plan and a strategic plan. So

[19:09] anybody's ever planning and economic development and that will go to those

[19:12] meetings and then the strategic plan you would want to do the economic

[19:16] development and recreation that's it. So you can take they don't have to be the

[19:21] same people. I like it being the same people but because of the you know the

[19:26] rules you could I can't go you can go back. Does that make sense? And we'll

[19:31] give you the topics of what we're doing each month. Um and I think I broke them

[19:36] down where um some of them were the comp plan and some of them were strategic

[19:40] plan. Okay. Whoever's whoever the finance should be institute whoever is

[19:45] your account plan should be your planning.

[19:48] It makes sense. Okay. Um but it's nice. >> So when would you recommend the first

[19:54] public workshop? >> The public the public meeting or the

[19:57] public uh >> the first public the first public

[20:00] workshop for >> the public the public. Okay.

[20:04] » Because I would think that that first one's probably more of an information

[20:07] gathering session. >> Yeah. We have to do the existing

[20:11] conditions um done. We need to have your comp plan. I want to ask you a question

[20:16] before I I answer that question. Is that when your comp plan is with a m your

[20:24] multi- comprehensive plan? Am I correct? >> I believe that is yes.

[20:29] » Yes. So did you hopefully did you tell them that you're going to be doing a

[20:36] comp?

[20:39] I guess the answer is no. The other townships that you did the multilan

[20:43] with. >> We did not reach out to the other

[20:44] townships. However, we did reach out to Delaware County Planning.

[20:47] » Okay. So, >> and my understanding is Delaware County

[20:50] Planning was the one that steered the multi-unal plan.

[20:54] » Oh, okay. Is that true? Okay. Okay. So, Okay.

[21:00] I have a question then. A followup question is was it Ridley Ridley

[21:05] Township and who else? I don't really

[21:11] » really really township and two others really township has their own comp plan

[21:17] right they have their own complaint

[21:22] yeah okay so yeah okay so uh they didn't come back did I guess you wouldn't know

[21:28] but did they contact you probably not okay so that's going to delay a little

[21:32] bit of the first meeting but I'm going to do that now okay because I didn't

[21:36] know if you did or If not, I'm going to go to the um

[21:39] planning department with Del County and Ridley Township. And there's another one

[21:44] right here. Is it? No. Okay. It's one other. I think it's

[21:50] four. So, I'll go to those other four and say, "Hey, we're we're doing a comp

[21:55] plan. The the Del County knows about it. Um I and I know I'm sure it's the

[22:02] township really." So, um, and I'll say, "Can I have your plans?" Because we need

[22:08] to look at their plans because if they have their own plan, hopefully

[22:13] it's not multi municipal, but it's your plan. You see what I'm saying?

[22:18] » So, I kind of need to know that. Okay. Because um I didn't see one just for

[22:23] you. So, that's why. Okay. So, to answer your question, I will answer your

[22:29] question. So probably we're in September now basically. Okay.

[22:34] September. So you're talking probably October. In October.

[22:40] Okay. Probably mid October because that will give us a really good indication

[22:44] through a little bit of survey a little existing all the existing positions will

[22:49] be done and a little survey. Okay. All your meetings will be done.

[22:55] The staff people that you want identified will be done and some

[23:01] steering commission. I need that steering committee started before

[23:06] the first

[23:13] question. Does that answer your question?

[23:17] » Any other questions? When can I get the point of contact?

[23:22] When can I get [clears throat] when can I get leaders identify identified? As

[23:28] soon as you get me that I can that's the biggest four things right now

[23:35] and I will work with somebody on the comp person who I would work with on

[23:43] identifying the comp

[23:47] who can I say questions. >> So my recommendation on you know point

[23:53] of contact is our manager. >> Okay.

[23:58] And the reason I say that is because, you know, not only is it going to be

[24:04] conversations multi-unip is that, you know, she's the one that's about to make

[24:07] phone calls to her counterparts in the neighboring municipalities to explain

[24:12] what's happening, but but also she's the one that would be able to coordinate,

[24:18] you know, with, you know, your interaction with individual members of

[24:22] council and the mayor and and the staff since she's in charge of

[24:30] So, I would I would put her as the point of contact for the comp plan itself. Um,

[24:36] in regards to a steering committee, what I'd like to do is stronghold the rest of

[24:40] the council and and come up with some folks

[24:45] that were willing to step up and and and start the steering committee process.

[24:51] When you say steering committee, I'm assuming that that would be a

[24:55] combination of members of council, possibly me members of the public,

[24:59] possibly members of the business community, and would we also possibly

[25:05] engage some professional staff? >> You can. Yes, you absolutely can. The

[25:12] staff um is not any part of the Yes, you can.

[25:16] » Yes.

[25:22] Why not?

[25:26] » Economic development is is a portion of of the overall comp plan. We're dealing

[25:32] every committee that we have as a council have to be incorporated into

[25:37] this comprehensive plan.

[25:42] » Oh yeah, it could be steering committee. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I mean,

[25:47] I'm not saying yes, they can be part of the

[25:51] Yes, absolutely. >> I think we need two people.

[25:56] » Okay. I said one or two. >> Okay.

[26:00] » That's fine. I mean, >> doesn't matter.

[26:05] » Okay, that's fine. I just That's why I always say one and two. I never want to

[26:08] get myself in trouble by saying one, but one or two is fine as long as they're

[26:13] okay together and I won't get conflicting forms. Okay. Okay. So, If

[26:19] you can give me the point of contact or two point of contacts, if you can give

[26:24] me anyone that you feel that's on the steering committee

[26:28] steering committee and um

[26:33] if I have any questions about the plan or infrastructure, I can I get to one of

[26:39] those two people. Okay. Um I need times. Do you want me to call you? You to call

[26:46] me. I need to know that. So then I can set those

[26:49] or do you want to do it tonight? Okay. Um, and what leaders in the community do

[26:54] you want me to individually or together meet?

[26:59] And and what I mean by leaders in the community could be business, it could be

[27:02] nonprofit, could be religious, could be, you know, leaders as a whole. Okay. and

[27:07] um and the steering committee. I don't and

[27:12] then any questions that you want on the

[27:16] survey. Yes.

[27:19] » As far as volunteer like we shouldn't just be like

[27:23] hey they need to be on right >> they would have to volunteer to be on

[27:28] » Okay. Just making sure. I was just making sure I'm like I want to

[27:33] » like oh I put you on a steering comm. [laughter]

[27:37] Yeah. Yeah. >> I got four I got some people. Great.

[27:40] » So, I [laughter] I'll ask the board this question is the the next step is going

[27:44] to be is to have Barbara meet individually with members of the board.

[27:50] How do you prefer? Do you want me to give her your number or do you want me

[27:54] to give her your number? >> I was gonna write my number on this

[27:57] paper, too. >> Okay, good. That's fine. [laughter]

[28:01] » No, if you want to just give me your phone number or email, whichever way or

[28:05] both, give it to me tonight. I'll set them up. Okay. Now, I know that probably

[28:11] all of you work during the day, so I don't mind at night or uh on the

[28:15] weekends. Um weekends is fine with me. Um and if I could do it' be great. If I

[28:22] can do like if you want to do eight, you know what I mean? It'd be nice to get

[28:26] like three in one time. Not three. If you all want to do it together, great.

[28:30] If not, I could do like a nine and 10:30 11. That would be great. Uh do you want

[28:35] to meet here? You want to meet somewhere else? That's fine. Um, just tell me how

[28:40] you want to do that. And just tell me

[28:45] the easiest thing is what I'll do is I'll text everybody's

[28:51] » right. >> Okay.

[28:54] » Okay. >> And then I'll get your number

[28:58] yourself. >> Yeah.

[29:05] » Yeah. And um I'm sure I hope I'm not speaking out. I assume you want me to

[29:10] meet there but um I'm assuming but [laughter]

[29:18] so um I you know it's just you add him on that.

[29:30] » Oh absolutely. You're going to get

[29:40] » during late morning. >> Oh, okay. I didn't know. I just said I

[29:45] wasn't sure. So, I always >> I'm not working.

[29:47] » Okay. So, late morning, early afternoon. >> So, when I'm when I'm working on one

[29:52] day, I can come see.

[29:58] Uh, anything else would you like? If I have a question for JP, is it okay? Do I

[30:05] get you to go to him or can I just go to up to you?

[30:10] » Let us

[30:16] I just want to make sure because I know you pay

[30:19] [laughter] and lawyer. I don't think I hope

[30:22] » we don't call a lawyer. >> I [laughter] HOPE I HOPE I DON'T HAVE TO

[30:26] CALL YOU. NO, I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. I HOPE I

[30:31] don't have to go in. >> Sorry. The board have any questions for

[30:35] Miss Kelly before we move on? >> No, but here, take this.

[30:38] » Thank you. >> Thank you.

[30:42] » I appreciate it. And thank you very much.

[30:44] » Hopefully I'll be seeing you soon. >> Great.

[30:47] » I start as soon as you guys start. How was that? That way.

[30:52] » I do not see anybody on the board for public comment. Miss Kelly, I do

[30:56] appreciate you taking the time out of your day. They've been here multiple

[30:59] times and we look forward to, you know, becoming good friends.

[31:08] » Mayor, your report, please. >> Okay. Well, um, for this month, the

[31:13] month of August, we have two events scheduled. Number one, on this Saturday

[31:19] from 11:00 a.m. to 3 p.m., we have a community closing giveaway.

[31:24] Um, I have a flyer

[31:29] We're going to be giving away clothes. We have several donations.

[31:36] That's going to be Saturday, August the 15th from 11:00 a.m. to 3 p.m. at

[31:41] Lighthouse Hall. It's not going to be inside the gym. It's going to be in the

[31:45] hallway. We're going to utilize one of the rooms on the side.

[31:52] » I'm sorry, Tom. Again, >> 11 to three.

[31:57] taking donations, you said. >> Do you have donations of

[32:00] » clothes? You said >> yes. No, we weren't taking

[32:05] some clothes. >> Only because I never really asked.

[32:07] » Oh, okay. Okay. >> Not a whole lot.

[32:11] » Okay. >> We don't want to clean out the whole

[32:15] » All right. Um, also on the 22nd, we're having a back to school drive. Back to

[32:22] school supply drive. um which is going to be from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. at

[32:26] Lighthouse Hall, of course, in the hallway. Um um we're going to have uh

[32:32] Wawa Shop right and our sponsors are also going to be

[32:39] Parkland's giving tree overcomers to Christ. Um, and anybody that wants to

[32:44] donate to help us to buy supplies, I'm more

[32:48] than happy to do so, buy additional supplies for the children. Feel free to

[32:54] give me um and uh the school also will be giving

[33:00] us some supplies, um, some book bags as well as some shoes that they have, um,

[33:06] they want to give out. That's going to be August 22nd

[33:10] from 10:00 am to 2 pm in Lighthouse Parkway.

[33:15] So, um looking forward to those two events and looking forward to having a

[33:19] good outcome meet the needs of the residents.

[33:27] Any questions of mayor's events? >> Mayor, anything to add before we move

[33:32] forward? >> Not at this time.

[33:36] action items. At this time, I'll ask uh director Simpson to deliver the

[33:41] financial report for July 2026. >> I'm sorry, I just lost my internet

[33:45] connection, so I'm connecting. >> Oh, okay. I've been having trouble as

[33:49] well. >> Yeah,

[33:49] » just got kicked off. I will be momentarily back in front of

[34:36] All right. Very sorry about that. Thank you. [snorts] In June, sorry.

[34:42] In July, $110,4595

[34:47] of deposits were received into the Sharon Bank general and depository

[34:50] funds. Total general fund expenditures of $510,96460

[34:55] were dispersed which includes $220,4134

[35:00] for payroll. All bank accounts of which we are aware and receive statements have

[35:04] been reconciled through July 26.

[35:20] Council, you've heard the financial report for July 2026. Is there any

[35:24] questions of Mer Simpson? >> No.

[35:29] » This time I entertain a motion to accept.

[35:32] » I have a motion from Mr. Jackson. Can I have a second?

[35:36] » Second. >> Second from Mr. Bolton.

[35:40] All in favor, please say I. >> Any opposed? Motion will pass

[35:44] unanimously. Chief Machesky can give us the fire report for July 2026, please.

[35:49] » Sure. Fire report for July 2026. Eight fires one more

[35:59] two working fire alarms three vehicle rescue one leaks two vehicle fire two

[36:06] pedestrian stroke one CO2 alarm one alarm

[36:12] 70

[36:17] council entertain a motion to accept the fire report for July 2026 Six.

[36:23] » So move. >> I have a motion from Vice President

[36:27] Fairby. I have a second. >> Second to Mr. Bolton.

[36:34] Is there any questions or comments about the fire report prior to the call

[36:38] for action? >> Yes, I have one.

[36:42] Chief, they're going off to St. Chai Chester

[36:47] and RP staff running the fire truck.

[36:52] » So we have the three guys will send the one guy the driver

[36:57] » one guy. >> Yeah, we're trying to do

[37:00] » they'll have to supply the uh volunteer to get that truck out. They're asking if

[37:07] they did send

[37:16] » and it's always three guys. >> There's something in the

[37:20] » Yes. Okay.

[37:28] » Any other questions? >> Not hearing any. All in favor, please

[37:33] say I. I. >> Any opposed? Motion will pass

[37:36] unanimously. Chief Machesky, [clears throat] can you

[37:39] deliver the EMT report for July 2026, please?

[37:42] » There is no EMT report for July.

[37:50] » I do a firework report. >> I see that. Miss Richmond, can you note

[37:55] that we did not receive any reporting report and that uh at our next meeting,

[38:00] we'll have to double up for July and August.

[38:07] Chief Pachesky, would you deliver the fire marshall report for July 2026,

[38:12] please? >> Fire marshall report uh is one request

[38:17] for records. Uh assist fire company one on the vehicle fire submitted by Robert

[38:22] Fire.

[38:25] » Have a motion to accept the fire marshall report for July 2026. Please

[38:29] order. >> A motion by Miss Jackson. A second from

[38:36] Mr. Bolton. Is there any questions or comments about the fire marshall report

[38:40] prior to the call for action? Not hearing any. All in favor, please

[38:45] say I. I. >> Any opposed? Motion's going to pass

[38:49] unanimously. >> Mr. Stewart, there police reports

[38:52] submitted to the agenda. Do you want me to table?

[38:54] » No, I let's let's just put it in there. So, we'll entertain a motion to accept

[38:59] the police report for July 2026. Second. [laughter]

[39:08] » Let me back up. [laughter] We're gonna we're going to reel this

[39:12] back for tell Mr. Stevg to move the 10 back 15 minutes. And this at this point

[39:19] in time, the solicitor is going to ask for a motion to amend the agenda

[39:24] » to include the police report. So, may I have a motion to amend the agenda?

[39:29] » So move. I have a motion to amend from Miss Farby.

[39:33] » Second. >> And I have a second from Mr. Bolton. All

[39:37] in favor of amending the agenda to include the police report, please say I.

[39:42] » Any opposed? That motion is going to pass unanimously. Now that we've amended

[39:47] the agenda to include the police report, I'll ask Chief Machesky to deliver such

[39:51] police report for July 2026. I'm paying attention.

[39:56] » No worries. I I could have table. Uh police report for July 2026. 72 calls of

[40:00] service 94 between midnight and 8 198 between 84 and 18 between 4 and 12.

[40:08] Council, you've heard the police report for July 2026. I have a motion to

[40:13] accept. So move.

[40:15] » I have a motion from Miss Farby and a second, please.

[40:22] » I have a second from Miss Jackson. Is there any questions or comments to Chief

[40:25] Machesky prior to the call for action? Not hearing any. All in favor, please

[40:30] say I. I. Is there anybody opposed? Motion to accept the police report has

[40:35] passed unanimously. >> Who would like to do the code report?

[40:49] » Let me just see kind of what we got. We got a very extensive package report.

[40:56] » Council, I'll give you the abbreviated version. that's acceptable to the

[40:59] council. You do have the packet from Commonwealth Code Enforcement for

[41:04] um July uh 2026. It's a letter dated August 10th from

[41:11] Anthony Tartaglia addressed to the president.

[41:16] During the month of July, there was 14 rental inspections, seven real estate

[41:22] transfer inspections, seven rental reinspections,

[41:28] and three real estate sale reinspections,

[41:37] five residential contractor registrations, 11 residential permit

[41:41] applications,

[41:44] one commercial industrial application,

[41:50] seven residential rental operator licenses,

[41:54] four use and occupancy applications were received and one change of tenant

[41:59] application. Just to give the council an update on

[42:04] the transition is Commonwealth Code will be transitioning

[42:10] out of the burrow effective the 31st of August.

[42:16] The Yorkies will be taking over the first of September.

[42:22] Mr. Tagley has agreed to stay on also been very gracious with opening up

[42:30] a lot of communication with Europe.

[42:38] And I spoke to him this afternoon. He said that there are multiple meetings

[42:42] that are being scheduled. so that there is a smooth transition

[42:48] with your is there any questions or comments about

[42:53] the code enforcement report for July of 2026?

[43:08] around.

[43:18] » That's correct. My understanding is the Commonwealth Code Enforcement does have

[43:23] forces that are in place. looking for your package.

[43:31] I don't want to specifically call out individual addresses,

[43:36] but there's followups on complaints for uh trash

[43:43] highrass.

[43:48] High grass

[43:56] junk outside of properties off windows. High grass,

[44:08] abandoned vehicles, building materials and

[44:14] yards.

[44:18] So it's like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. One, two, three, four,

[44:27] five, six, seven. So 7* 7 is 49, right?

[44:33] » I think that's right. >> So So there's there's 49 instances that

[44:37] were reported in the month of July where a door knocker was dropped off or

[44:42] letters were sent to residents. So There there is an action to put um

[44:54] unfortunately with the government process government.

[45:00] government to work, but the effort is being made to make

[45:06] people aware that we are expecting properties are well maintained and grass

[45:12] is out of order.

[45:21] » Yes. Um, so

[45:26] when are you going to give us an update on property?

[45:32] » My understanding is that is part of the handoff process.

[45:39] You know, I'll I'll put Mr. Bolton on the spot is, you know, and he he's very

[45:45] very wellversed on exactly what the code process is. So, Mr. If you could just

[45:50] give a brief overview of exactly when when a complaint is received, how it

[45:57] goes from from complaint to resolution. So you can complain about

[46:11] an account, upload pictures of the neighbor's yard and complain.

[46:19] And that automatically throws up an alert on open

[46:26] that whoever

[46:30] maintain

[46:37] that complaint.

[46:42] So it's up to them. [clears throat] You start off with a

[46:46] yellow door knocker or hanger. It's basically

[46:51] friendly reminder. That's so people don't get upset when they see that

[46:54] pretty red.

[46:58] Then you get the red. After the red one, we have a ticket.

[47:04] Ticket

[47:11] money.

[47:16] You don't resolve that citation.

[47:25] That's the process.

[47:41] Commonwealth hands over they'll be handing this to them.

[47:46] So they go into they can look at all these properties to

[47:50] see whether or not they have been addressed. You know where stage they

[47:56] whether it's a a red tag whe

[48:01] And then there's multiple stages

[48:07] [clears throat] working together.

[48:14] Any other [clears throat] questions? Comments about code.

[48:22] This time I enterain motion to accept the code report for July 2026.

[48:28] be motion

[48:35] please say I >> any oppos

[48:41] Mr. Kelly.

[48:45] » Thank you, Mr. President.

[48:59] early

[49:06] the demo of the highway department site contract will start immediately

[49:10] following termination of power. We expect that to happen next week ahead

[49:18] of the time to get Pico set with the line so that the contractor can

[49:24] demolition. The gas work uh along the streets are

[49:28] moving along little incident. We do get updates once a week on their progress.

[49:34] Um [clears throat] pothole repair. I recommend that council considers

[49:38] authorizing our office to solicit bids to make pothole repairs. The county aid

[49:44] funds that can be used for this purpose. If we do not use them, we lose them. So,

[49:49] it's a new process to the county. If you do not lose use your county aids, you

[49:56] you will lose it. There's about $5,000 there. So, it seems frivolous, but

[50:02] that's the only way we can use it is if we advertise to use it like a road

[50:07] program or fuels and then council authorizes the project. Again, it's

[50:14] going to be small $5,000 worth of work, but we can do this very very very

[50:20] quickly so that you're not wasting a lot of money in engineering yet you can use

[50:24] $5,000. So if everyone's okay with this, I don't

[50:28] know that it needs council action unless it's completely rejecting the idea. I

[50:33] will bring back um a proposed use of those funds at the September meeting

[50:39] consideration.

[50:43] » I have two questions. >> Yes. Number one, you have a status on

[50:48] play equipment. >> It's the sideboard is installed.

[50:52] » Installed. So, it's ready to be used now.

[50:54] » Yes. >> Thank you.

[50:56] » Good. >> And also, um, should we halt any

[51:00] operations within the gym until everything is completed?

[51:05] Um,

[51:08] I I would wait until we have a much more solid date that they're going to start

[51:13] this war >> indoor divorce. So, I don't know. I

[51:18] wouldn't halt anything at this point. >> Inside understood.

[51:23] » Yes. >> I think once we get a much more solid

[51:26] date that they're going to install doors andor floor, of course, we'll

[51:30] communicate that. I'm sure there's going to be at least a week's advanced notice.

[51:36] » Okay. >> So, I I would hate to say you can't use

[51:39] that facility while we're waiting and waiting and waiting for doors. So, we'll

[51:46] keep communication open. We'll tell you exactly what proposed at least within

[51:51] the week to get any of this additional.

[51:57] » Any other questions? >> I do.

[52:01] Um the storm water that we've had, you know, cleaned, cavern, um did that GIS

[52:11] also? >> Uh it did it. Yes. And that's only from

[52:17] Seventh Street to the river, not the entire. Okay. I've had some uh there's

[52:24] several areas in the burner that have uh storm water inlets that are like filled

[52:30] with dirt and they don't go anywhere. Don't even know if there's a pipe down

[52:34] there or anything. But it got brought to my attention today by one of the

[52:40] residents on Ninth Street that showed me a video of the water running down Ninth

[52:46] Street and then it runs right up the neighbor's driveway and then runs down

[52:50] the sidewalk. The same sidewalk that the kids got to walk to school and

[52:54] everything else. And our concerns are it's already bad because when they

[53:00] repave the street, they don't grind down enough and the curves get smaller.

[53:06] and the street gets higher along with the driveways. And that's kind of what's

[53:10] causing this. And now that Pico is doing the gas line and they repave the street,

[53:17] what happens is now the street's even going to get higher

[53:20] and she's been here for 50 years. And she said to me that there was a a uh

[53:29] a storm inlet right by the school that is no longer there. In other words, it's

[53:35] been covered up. So, I don't know whether or not it's been covered up

[53:39] because she's dead, but she said water used to go in years ago, but now we only

[53:44] have a storm drain up on Simpson Street, and all that water runs from there all

[53:49] the way down 9inth till it gets to the corner of [snorts] Ninth in Seville.

[53:55] By that time, it's already on sidewalks on a heavy rain.

[54:01] » So, I'll take a look at that. um immediately.

[54:06] But back to the paving situation, the contractor before he paved the road

[54:11] should do at minimum curve line milling to maintain the reveal of the curve.

[54:17] So we'll talk to people about any other restorations.

[54:23] Just it just it I mean the curves used to start out at 4 in and some of them

[54:27] are down to like two, you know, and and driveway it's even worse because now the

[54:33] water just goes straight up the driveway down the sidewalk. The problem was like

[54:37] she said to me was, you know, come winter time you get a heavy rain and it

[54:41] comes down the sidewalk and freezes. This is this is a walking path of the

[54:46] kids on your school side. So she's like, I'm the first person that's going to get

[54:51] sued by somebody

[54:56] close.

[55:03] Um, one other question about storeboard. Has it been determined where the

[55:10] infiltration is coming from? I mean, it's my guess it's from industrial

[55:14] properties. Um, a large portion is correct. Any idea

[55:19] of what the you say large portion what the percentage of our infiltration is it

[55:26] 90% of our total infiltration coming from the industrial properties 50%. It's

[55:33] probably closer to 60 >> 60%

[55:36] » 60 but the the report wasn't necessarily

[55:42] presented that way. I can interpolate it that way. We could do a

[55:48] spreadsheet preset analysis on that. >> The reason I'm asking this is

[55:54] [clears throat] since we implemented a sewer okay of

[55:59] where you're based on water usage so

[56:05] the residents pay I believe is somewhere around $6,000 gallons and the commercial

[56:11] is around seven something by a couple cents or whatever. Um, and that's the

[56:16] commercial properties. My the reasoning for this is I believe that the

[56:22] industrial properties should be paying more than that because of we're paying a

[56:28] total silver fee that the residents and the local businesses

[56:33] don't have the infiltration that the amount of flow that's coming

[56:38] through. And I noticed we had saved a total of $54,000

[56:45] one time just from when Alliance bought the property from

[56:52] u the warehouses. Yeah. >> Because once they cut off the sewer line

[56:58] there, now all the infiltration didn't go into our sewers. What was a savings

[57:02] of 50 some thousand dollars in one year just by that. So it kind of told me if

[57:08] that was properties doing it, so do the rest of the industrial properties.

[57:13] » And even at by having a third [clears throat]

[57:18] in this, and the reason I'm bringing it up because we're getting ready to do

[57:21] budget talks, um, and the ordinance has to be

[57:25] rewritten that way, but I think it's it it's still cheaper than what Del Porter

[57:32] charges their commercial properties. I mean, we have a less rate than what the

[57:38] quarter actually charges their residential customers and their

[57:41] commercial customers. Our rates actually cheaper.

[57:45] So, it's not like somebody can complain about

[57:52] understand. I I'll find out what

[57:59] plus the uh the meters remain in place. >> They're still in place. Yeah. We're

[58:04] continuing to collect data. >> Okay.

[58:07] » But the report does show clearly that there is a large infiltration in that

[58:11] area. >> I'm really interested to see how much

[58:14] infiltration is coming from 1003 industrial highway.

[58:24] » Thank you.

[58:30] One quick followup, but I know that we had Mary Sam here from

[58:36] » Yes. >> Have we reached out to her or she

[58:37] reached out to us? >> She did. Actually, we did have a brief

[58:41] email exchange and her recommendation was to tailor our um approach to include

[58:49] what we've already done, which means it to include the uh work that we've

[58:56] already done. and then get bids for additional work so we can tailor the

[59:02] scope to a much more dollar specific dollar. So we can do

[59:09] that. will move forward that the the last year

[59:14] third year I mean

[59:18] already starts

[59:32] the year

[59:38] next

[59:44] I don't know if that's January, but I'll be

[59:59] any other questions, comments

[1:00:03] for a motion to accept the engineers report.

[1:00:09] with the motion. Second

[1:00:15] » all in favor please say I motion will pass unanimously

[1:00:22] Mr. Solicitor and the rental agreement for Joe Hughes Hall an opportunity to

[1:00:28] review the proposed agreement any comments in regards to

[1:00:33] language that >> uh I I do have

[1:00:38] some concerns particularly the um the cash payment the bureau does have no

[1:00:43] cashy um so just everything should be handled

[1:00:49] by however

[1:01:04] I'm looking

[1:01:07] We have a a lot of cash that runs through the burrow. Not just for rental

[1:01:17] cash for just about anything that wants to come in and say, "I want a permit.

[1:01:34] if they can. But you know, at the end of the day, Chief, if somebody comes in to

[1:01:38] pay a parking ticket, do we take their 20 or $25? That's different.

[1:01:54] » I have I have one comment about this, >> right?

[1:01:57] » It has to do with cash. You're asking them to pay in a check or

[1:02:02] a money but then pay in cash for the other part. So you're kind of taking two

[1:02:10] different types of payments here.

[1:02:15] That's probably not you're going to pay in cash. You pay the

[1:02:20] whole thing in cash or you pay that whole thing in check or money credit.

[1:02:25] And is and is this in the intent to pay cash to

[1:02:30] the overseers. >> That is the Yes.

[1:02:34] » That's a real problem because now they're employees of the barrel and now

[1:02:38] we're paying cash. That's not excuse me. This has been

[1:02:54] an overseer can't just be handed cash and then it needs

[1:02:58] to be accounted for appropriately.

[1:03:04] » Yeah, exactly.

[1:03:20] » [laughter]

[1:03:26] » So I'm going to ask the solicitor your your opinion is that this has been

[1:03:30] hanging on for months now. Do do we want to table any action on the rental

[1:03:38] agreement this evening with the understanding that we've got to do a

[1:03:42] little bit of work in cleaning it up? >> I I I think that's fair. I think it

[1:03:55] but in any event should any events occur between now and then? I mean we can't be

[1:04:01] accepting can't be

[1:04:08] How would you recommend that the overseer be compensated for the time

[1:04:12] that the overseer puts in that corer?

[1:04:27] » How you view the service?

[1:04:36] problem.

[1:04:48] Let's table it unless there's any objection from the board item

[1:05:05] and spelling errors on it. I mean, it was horrible and it's been like that for

[1:05:10] years. So, can we before we anything out. I'm

[1:05:17] not comfortable sending anything out right now.

[1:05:21] » Can we just clean that part up and and use that part where the grammar is

[1:05:27] correct and the spelling is I mean it's horrible.

[1:05:30] » Well, look, it's a it's a rental form, right? I don't know that this is

[1:05:34] strictly requires a council vote. >> Okay.

[1:05:36] » Right. Um, but that being said, I this seems to be something that the council

[1:05:42] does does take an interest in. Has said on the agenda the last couple want it, I

[1:05:46] think that's fine. Um, >> you're going down the same road I this

[1:05:51] to me this is an administrative. >> Yeah, absolutely.

[1:05:53] » It's it's not a contractual relationship. It's it's basically

[1:05:58] policy. >> Exactly. I mean, it's an it's an it's an

[1:06:01] application, right? I mean, it's it's it's a it's a an internal form, right?

[1:06:06] someone wants to print the wall, they they take it, they look at the rules,

[1:06:10] they build it out. Um,

[1:06:21] so would it be acceptable to clean it up, correct the grammatical errors?

[1:06:26] However, incorporate that the payment from the renter to the burrow needs to

[1:06:33] incorporate an all-inclusive sum and eliminate the

[1:06:38] » handing of cash at the end of the meeting.

[1:06:40] » And of course, if it's if it's 1099 or excuse me, if it's W2, right, there's

[1:06:44] payroll taxes the bureau is paying too on that end. And that might that might

[1:06:48] that certainly raises the um the total dollar figure, right? It might not be

[1:06:53] fully accounted for. um for you know 150 bucks or $175, right?

[1:07:01] Medicare taxes, social security taxes, that kind of thing.

[1:07:07] » Questions? >> Yeah.

[1:07:12] So, you're paying um the overseers fee, they give the money to the burrow and

[1:07:17] the burrow cuts a check to the overseer. So in other words, you're paying the

[1:07:21] whole fee as one, not >> not as that $175, $150 or whatever it is

[1:07:28] is all part of that check they hand you the or the

[1:07:33] » loan with $200. >> So everything always one big fat check

[1:07:37] or well they do $200 deposits up front end. So, but I'm saying if they don't

[1:07:43] cancel, then the rest of the money should be all at one shot, not $75, $175

[1:07:48] or $150 at the end of the night handing it to somebody in cash and also be paid

[1:07:54] so that they have a good accounting of it. And that way, the person that's

[1:07:58] working is an employee. And to have the employee rights and protections under

[1:08:02] the law, you need to be paid with a paycheck.

[1:08:05] » Yes. [laughter] I think you guys are suggesting that

[1:08:07] these are all payments made either with a credit card or a check.

[1:08:11] » Yes. >> Correct.

[1:08:12] » Y >> we're trying to eliminate the use of

[1:08:15] cash. Is that what I'm hearing? >> All except for the police that's

[1:08:21] » So this it would be the same for like when you pay for the the vending

[1:08:28] machine. I mean not the vending machine. I'm sorry. Um,

[1:08:34] I'm sorry. I lost my train of thought. >> It's not a wreck board. You know how

[1:08:39] they come and they buy candy and things of that sort. Is that that's still okay

[1:08:43] to do c money or no? >> Is that the board?

[1:08:47] » That's a wreck board. It's not >> Well, that's that's totally

[1:08:50] » candy and this sort of thing, right? >> Yeah.

[1:08:53] » No, I'm just curious. >> No, of course. Of course. You know, and

[1:08:55] it's it's uh Well, I think that's I think that's fine for now. how you

[1:09:00] understand it. It's his policy of the burrow that burrows supposed to have a

[1:09:04] no cash policy, >> right? That's that's my question.

[1:09:09] » So, it's all the way across the board. >> Yes. So, it eliminates the go out to

[1:09:15] Walmart, buy what you need to buy, and then go

[1:09:18] back to the borrow and ask the borrow to reimburse you with cash. That's not

[1:09:21] happen. >> I'm sorry. The way the way I thought

[1:09:23] that that question was asked was I thought like kids are coming to the

[1:09:26] board and buy Yes. This brick board collects cash. Is

[1:09:31] that the same as collecting cash through the burrow?

[1:09:34] » Well, look, they collect cash, right? That cash needs to be deposited

[1:09:37] properly, >> right?

[1:09:38] » Right. I mean, you can't be carrying it around.

[1:09:41] » Okay. >> Yeah, we collect cash now

[1:09:44] » for a lot of things, >> right? That's my question.

[1:09:48] The issue is the issue is paying out in cash. There's the issue.

[1:09:53] » In other words, collecting the cash can be accounted for. It's paying somebody

[1:09:57] in cash. So, it's okay to collect it. We can collect it even for inspections and

[1:10:01] things of that sort. >> Well, I mean, we've been doing it

[1:10:04] forever. >> That's my point. But, but this is this

[1:10:07] is an issue when you're paying someone in the cash. That's like paying somebody

[1:10:11] under the table, [clears throat] >> right? [laughter]

[1:10:17] » That's a modern thing. That's a modern thing. Like everybody uses a bed, right?

[1:10:21] So, I think we >> we pretty much done with

[1:10:24] » Okay. Um there are other payment options.

[1:10:27] » We're we're trying to >> one of the things was

[1:10:31] » I just meant for Joe Reynolds, but >> right

[1:10:36] up

[1:10:42] » all the way across the board. That's all. I mean, you're not gonna get kids

[1:10:44] to be able to come in and buy candy without some type of either app or cash.

[1:10:51] Most kids today use an app, >> but we just I think there was something

[1:10:55] else that was coming out that we were trying to switch over to

[1:10:58] » I think you're

[1:11:01] » Yeah, >> you don't have to attach it to a person.

[1:11:04] » Correct. >> Did you want to say something, Marley?

[1:11:10] » Yeah. Bank has a new program that meets all

[1:11:14] your needs. >> Actually, you were you were the one

[1:11:17] telling me that. >> I've been trying to tell you

[1:11:21] over there [laughter] and lay it out and you can tell them

[1:11:26] they can set it up so that they're small amounts on your phone. You can and you

[1:11:32] can use a QR code. They could pay their taxes if you wanted to set it up that

[1:11:37] way. Um they can pay anything they want. uh QR code or AC so they can use a debit

[1:11:44] or a credit card fee if they do it that way and then there's also a 3% they're

[1:11:50] willing to go under we're already paying charging% they can go under that and

[1:11:55] make that happen through Sharon Bank >> yes

[1:11:58] » maybe we should get Sharon Bank in here to have this discussion it's all bank

[1:12:03] they're willing to roll it out they're willing to come and meet you and and

[1:12:07] it'll

[1:12:12] go with that.

[1:12:17] » Next item on the agenda, I'll defer to the solicitor to give an explanation of

[1:12:21] the settlement for number two.

[1:12:25] » So that was that was discussed uh at length in the executive session. Of

[1:12:30] course um uh that is for litigation. So that's that's why we discussed it in

[1:12:36] executive session. It is it is my uh request for a vote from from council. Um

[1:12:44] my my advice is that uh council vote to uh accept the the uh settlement as I

[1:12:51] proposed it. Um that's what I that's what I have to say

[1:12:56] about that agenda item. Council, at this time I entertain a

[1:13:01] motion to approve the settlement of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania docket

[1:13:07] number 226-CV 00754

[1:13:12] presented by the solicitor. I have a motion.

[1:13:17] » Have a motion by Mr. Bolton. I have a second.

[1:13:20] » Second. >> Have a second for Miss Jackson.

[1:13:24] There any questions or comments that anybody on the board has?

[1:13:29] Not hearing any. All in favor, please say I.

[1:13:32] » I. >> Any opposed?

[1:13:34] » I abstain.

[1:13:40] » Do we need to do a roll call or are we good with the extension of Why don't you

[1:13:44] do a roll call just for the record? Okay.

[1:13:55] I

[1:14:02] » I saying due to a possible conflict

[1:14:14] » I

[1:14:21] motion will pass six or I'm sorry five zero is not present.

[1:14:34] » Mr. Schles, I'll ask for some direction from you with the abstension of Miss

[1:14:39] Far. What is the procedure that she >> There's a uh form that uh uh the council

[1:14:44] vice president needs to fill out that just explains the u the extension.

[1:15:06] Council at this time I entertain a motion to approve or reject the

[1:15:10] partnership with Delaware County Health Department to provide health inspection

[1:15:13] services for Eddie Stone Barrow. >> So move

[1:15:17] a motion from Miss Farby. May I have a second?

[1:15:21] » Have a second from Miss Jackson. [cough] This time I'll open it up for any

[1:15:25] questions or comments from the board. >> I have a question.

[1:15:32] He doesn't do health inspection. >> Does not do health in

[1:15:44] hiring a shepherd health inspector.

[1:15:54] » I'm believing that is the desire for Any

[1:16:01] other questions?

[1:16:04] » One more. >> Yep.

[1:16:06] » Do we let the solicitor know that we're no longer

[1:16:10] um pursuing to keep the health, you know, inspection is local?

[1:16:18] I believe the solicitor is aware since he did see a copy of the draft agendas

[1:16:22] that went out and >> he thought the solicitor was working on

[1:16:26] this and I and [clears throat] I and I'll and I'll kind of bring the

[1:16:29] solicitor up to speed is is that Eddie Stone along with other municipalities in

[1:16:34] Delaware County when the health department decided that they wanted to

[1:16:37] do health inspections took action in the court of common

[1:16:42] please to basically say we have the right as a municipality

[1:16:46] to opt out of their program and do the health inspections in house.

[1:16:53] So, so now that there seems to be a change of

[1:16:58] opinion or desire, is there any action that the burrow

[1:17:03] needs to take to surgically remove itself from existing litigation?

[1:17:11] And should that be done prior to the call for action or can we take that vote

[1:17:17] and then you'll just >> because that litigation is still going

[1:17:20] on.

[1:17:23] » There's it's a never ending fight. >> Yes, Marley, please.

[1:17:28] » Um the Del County Health Department did tell us that uh you may go ahead and

[1:17:36] vote and then go ahead and withdraw from the law. They said that for for them to

[1:17:42] accept uh the council new council's willingness to join that we also need to

[1:17:49] remove ourselves from it. >> So that is that is a separate matter of

[1:17:54] of joining um uh

[1:17:59] should you have to vote to remove yourself from the lawsuit first before

[1:18:06] voting to join the health department? Uh possibly, but based on it sounds like

[1:18:13] the communication from the uh uh Department of Health folks uh that might

[1:18:19] be advisable.

[1:18:23] » What's advisable >> to uh withdraw uh first? It it sounds

[1:18:28] like they will not accept, right? The council can vote all they want to to uh

[1:18:31] » Right. But so we withdraw. It doesn't make a difference. So we should withdraw

[1:18:35] first before taking this vote to join. So you can vote.

[1:18:40] » So we need to have a vote to withdraw first and then a vote to

[1:18:47] and um I I have not uh fully uh managed to

[1:18:53] uh manage I I I'm not fully aware of what possible ramifications there would

[1:18:59] be for withdrawing from that uh that suit should there be any for for the

[1:19:03] burrow. I don't know. Um, but I think that would be part of my

[1:19:07] » because the burst is splitting this cost with the other municipalities.

[1:19:11] » I think that would be part of my analysis

[1:19:14] um to uh in in rendering my legal advice.

[1:19:23] » So [snorts] I'll just ask the question. Is it premature for the burrow to be

[1:19:28] taking or the board to be taking action at this time or do you need to reach out

[1:19:33] to for lack of a better term, the the the

[1:19:37] other municipalities that we have a joint to to Yeah, I think that would be

[1:19:43] I think

[1:19:46] without knowing the full scope of the litigation and the posture of that of

[1:19:52] that litigation, it very well could be premature for for a council to be taking

[1:19:57] this vote at this time. I would prefer to uh sort of see the entire picture uh

[1:20:03] before rendering a a legal opinion. >> I have a question. Did you not know

[1:20:08] about any of this before tonight? >> Uh I learned about some of this before

[1:20:15] tonight. However, I I have not had an opportunity to review the um posture of

[1:20:21] the litigation.

[1:20:33] Can we just vote on ending part of the litigation?

[1:20:39] » Well, you can vote to amend the agenda to

[1:20:43] include that, but I do not know the ramifications for

[1:20:47] anyone withdrawing from the litigation as it exists right now. So would you

[1:20:52] recommend that we table any action so that you have an opportunity to reach

[1:20:58] out to those that we've been joined with?

[1:21:00] » That would be best at this time. >> You don't want to turn around and you

[1:21:04] know throw a wrench into everybody else's plan

[1:21:08] without least for >> So where we are right now it's

[1:21:12] Commonwealth Code Enforcement does offer health inspection services.

[1:21:18] So, so up until the 31st of August, >> we've got Commonwealth on board.

[1:21:27] The urgency is going to come September 1 when Commonwealth code has been relieved

[1:21:32] of their responsibility here with municipality and our new BCO Yorkies

[1:21:40] does not provide that service. [clears throat]

[1:21:44] And >> they have no interest in providing that

[1:21:46] service? >> None.

[1:21:51] question please add one more thing that the health

[1:21:57] department uh we met with some people on council she was only had time for one

[1:22:03] meeting they did say that the county position is that they stopped fighting

[1:22:09] within litigation the members other other parts of municipalities like

[1:22:14] ourselves they were ordered to stop So there's it's out there. We just have

[1:22:21] to remove ourselves from the lawsuit to move forward.

[1:22:24] » But they they were ordered to stop. Was that a court order?

[1:22:27] » So they all agree. >> Well, the court wouldn't order them to

[1:22:30] necessarily stop. >> Well, I'm not a lawyer. I'm sure they

[1:22:34] made it clear that there was no fight. I I guess I'm just trying I'm trying to

[1:22:39] understand if it was a court an order from a judge or an order from the

[1:22:42] commissioners that said, "Hey, we're not going to fight this anymore." Because

[1:22:45] that that's >> that's different. a combination of some

[1:22:48] kind of things like that. But their point was that there is no fight

[1:22:53] anymore. There's an agreement and they explain there why is that one of the

[1:22:58] townships in Springfield and they have a very large restaurant base and so it's

[1:23:03] important for them to capture that to the to the municipalities whereas other

[1:23:08] municipalities don't have that. we are one of them. And so they just agreed to

[1:23:12] let municipalities who feel like that's an important source of revenue to go

[1:23:16] ahead and do it and and so they scores down. So I don't think this is

[1:23:22] complicated at all. >> No, but I think it's important that you

[1:23:26] find out all the information. >> I agree.

[1:23:32] I have a question. Um, in previous reports, has

[1:23:36] Commonwealth Coast Center inspected?

[1:23:42] » Yes, they have. >> Yes.

[1:23:46] » They handled the one with the sugar over here on the back.

[1:23:50] » And I believe they have also gone to the school and inspected the cafeteria and

[1:23:54] they've gone the route of any food establishments. Okay.

[1:24:01] Inspect. Thank you.

[1:24:06] table.

[1:24:11] » Next item is the sale of surplus equipment. And we've got the 2017 Ford

[1:24:18] Explorer XLT SUV, which is the unmarked police car. And madam manager, do you

[1:24:24] have the last five digits of the VIN so I can

[1:24:28] » 00767 >> 00767

[1:24:34] and the 2009 Ford F450 XL Superduty dump truck which that's the white one.

[1:24:45] So, council, at this time, I entertain a motion to approve the sale of surplus

[1:24:50] equipment, and that sale would be on the municip municipal auction website for

[1:24:57] the 2017 Ford Explorer XLT and the 2009 Ford F450 XL Superduty. I think the only

[1:25:06] additional information, and I'll defer to Mr. Bolt, I hate to put you on the

[1:25:11] spot, but would you recommend a reserve on this equipment or just let it

[1:25:18] go for what it goes. >> I would recommend we we we ask the um

[1:25:25] uh Joe Pinto who's been the one who does

[1:25:30] the service on our vehicles of what his opinion would be as far as what they

[1:25:35] were.

[1:25:39] We uh we put the court explorer in the AI generated thing for damage report

[1:25:48] should be valued around $1,200.

[1:25:55] What about anybody that just got here?

[1:26:02] We can do the same thing with that. I know that a turbo

[1:26:14] » and that turbo is like $5,000.

[1:26:18] » Okay.

[1:26:21] » You're [clears throat] comfortable with letting the mechanic give us a

[1:26:24] recommended reserve? We approve the sale of surplus material and the reserve to

[1:26:28] be determined >> that contingent upon the

[1:26:35] I suppose >> coming up with a number ourselves.

[1:26:38] » Yes. Yes. [laughter] >> That's fine.

[1:26:41] » All right. Have a motion. >> Got a second.

[1:26:46] » Second. >> Any questions or comments? All in favor,

[1:26:50] please say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes unanimously.

[1:26:54] Council, at this time I entertain a motion to

[1:26:57] accept the resignation of Theresa Brewster from the position of B

[1:27:00] Secretary/administrative assistant effective 812 which is this

[1:27:04] coming Wednesday. >> I have a motion for Miss Jackson. I have

[1:27:09] a second. >> Second from Miss Farby. Is there any

[1:27:12] questions or comments from the board prior to the call?

[1:27:16] Not hearing any. All in favor, please say I. I.

[1:27:21] Motion passes unanimously.

[1:27:26] With the departure of the administrative assistant, it's uh going to

[1:27:32] create a hole in the municipality.

[1:27:37] And I would like to kind of gauge the board's temperature, so to speak, on

[1:27:45] hiring a temporary, and I emphasize the word temporary part-time administrative

[1:27:50] assistant to fill in while we go through the advertisement process or whatever

[1:27:56] process the board would like to undertake to find a replacement for Miss

[1:28:03] Brewster. How long? I'm sorry.

[1:28:08] » I have a gentleman that works for me in Milbourne. He is a college student in

[1:28:13] his early 20s. His current workload and his semester uh he has part a couple

[1:28:21] online classes at night. He said that he would be willing to come in part-time

[1:28:27] for the burrow. He does clearly understand that it would be temporary

[1:28:32] and it would be just to help work the window and take care of the

[1:28:38] financial stuff. Now he currently is doing financial work for me. Uh he is

[1:28:44] helping with both accounts payable and accounts receivable. So, he does have an

[1:28:48] understanding of municipal government and municipal accounting

[1:28:54] and is willing to step in and help if the board would like to do a temporary

[1:29:00] hire.

[1:29:06] [laughter]

[1:29:09] » He wouldn't want to get paid obviously. that salary.

[1:29:14] » That would be the desire of the board. I will tell you that I pay him $17.50

[1:29:21] an hour and billboard. I'm sure, you know, it would be a little

[1:29:27] bit of a travel here. Um, you know, $18 an hour. It's whatever the board would

[1:29:33] like to offer. If the board is even willing to make an offer,

[1:29:38] » how long is temporary? temporary is until we find somebody that

[1:29:42] wants to fill the spot.

[1:29:46] » Consider that his current semester, what's what's the semester go? Two

[1:29:50] months, three months, >> three, three, three, four months.

[1:29:53] » I think three to four months, >> but you know, be willing to come in if

[1:29:59] it's three weeks, just be willing to come in and put a

[1:30:05] little extra money in his pocket. I know, you know, I could I can tell you

[1:30:09] from a personal experience he's plug and blood

[1:30:21] that like a vote or >> it would be it' be a vote. Yes.

[1:30:28] » Do you just want to do like a straw p? Uh, we're not going to install because

[1:30:33] we're in a public setting, but >> Oh, I'll make it simple. I motion we

[1:30:37] hire the >> Okay, I'll make

[1:30:39] » the part time moose >> temporary

[1:30:44] » $1 an hour.

[1:30:48] » 20 25 hours a week. >> Sure.

[1:30:52] Well, up to 25 hours a week. >> It was over that.

[1:31:06] Okay. So, entertain a motion to approve the hiring of a temporary

[1:31:12] part-time administrative assistant, Naz Moose Nazir.

[1:31:20] We're we're in a public setting, but he was born in the United States and he

[1:31:24] speaks fluent English. Sure. Just in case anybody is asking. uh at a at a

[1:31:29] rate of $18 an hour for up to 25 hours per week to begin

[1:31:35] immediately. >> I have a motion for Mr. Bolton. May I

[1:31:38] have a second? >> Second.

[1:31:40] » There any questions or comments before the call for action? Not hearing any.

[1:31:45] All in favor, please say I. >> I. Motion passes unanimously. Last

[1:31:49] action item on the docket for this evening is to accept the resignation of

[1:31:53] Kylin Hicks from the position of full-time public works effective 814

[1:31:59] 2026. >> I have a question.

[1:32:02] » Sure. >> Is is he resigning from the whole burrow

[1:32:06] or just full time? >> Resigning from the whole barrel.

[1:32:10] » I was just curious because I had to work full time.

[1:32:13] » I was just making the designation that he is a full-time employee, not a

[1:32:17] parttime employee. All right. I thought you just confused me when you had to

[1:32:20] work full time there because we didn't have that for Miss Bruce. [laughter]

[1:32:28] » I have a motion for Miss Far, a second. >> Second for Miss Jackson.

[1:32:33] » All in favor, please say I. I. >> Any opposed?

[1:32:37] » Motion passes unanimously. Is there any

[1:32:43] urgency that the board sees with having to replace

[1:32:49] highline?

[1:32:52] » Is Kevin still here? One driving the truck.

[1:32:56] » Baptis. >> Yes,

[1:32:59] » I believe. So

[1:33:08] » Kevin Mer he brought back part time and it's temporary.

[1:33:13] » Correct.

[1:33:16] » So it's temporary and we lost a full-time person.

[1:33:20] So that's so we eventually we would have lost two people. Correct.

[1:33:26] » The reason he was brought back temporary is because we had no CDL director.

[1:33:31] So, do we have a CDL driver now? >> Yes.

[1:33:35] » And then we have one other person to help them. And Madness is just temporary

[1:33:40] helping. >> So, we don't have the three people that

[1:33:44] we would normally have. >> We normally would have three full-time

[1:33:47] people, three part-time people. Right now, you have three full-time people and

[1:33:52] three part-time people when you include No, no, you have two part-time people

[1:33:56] and three full-time people. We normally have three full-time people

[1:34:01] and uh >> I'm sorry,

[1:34:04] » three full-time, three part-time. That's our norm.

[1:34:08] » Now, right now, we have three full-time, two part-time, and one part-time

[1:34:14] temporary employee. So, right now, we're right where we always have been in the

[1:34:17] burrow. >> Okay. So, then seems like it's not an

[1:34:21] urgency, but it's it needs to be put out there eventually.

[1:34:26] That's what it's if because we have the three full time and then we Yeah. So,

[1:34:30] right. Am I hearing that right? That's how I get back.

[1:34:35] » It is an urgency or it's not urgency. >> I would say that

[1:34:58] I am not in attendance of executive session and I'm going to make sure that

[1:35:02] I for the most part provide confidentiality but there is an

[1:35:09] interest of a former employee to return

[1:35:15] or former employees >> to return.

[1:35:18] » We don't have to vote to advertise, right?

[1:35:22] No, not to advertise a position. >> Just post a position. So you just post a

[1:35:27] position and then they apply. >> One wanting one wanting full-time work

[1:35:31] and the other looking for part time. >> Two.

[1:35:35] » Can you give me a hand? >> Um what's what what do we normally

[1:35:41] have? >> Oh, really? I'm surprised at that.

[1:35:44] [laughter]

[1:35:47] » But I'm okay with I'm okay with that. Okay with what? I'm

[1:35:51] » Well, as long as it's confused. >> As long as it's posted to give everyone

[1:35:56] an opportunity, and I mean everyone, an opportunity to apply.

[1:36:15] » Well, >> and the other one was part time.

[1:36:19] » Yes. We'll handle that one.

[1:36:22] » Can I ask a question? >> Can I ask a question also?

[1:36:25] » Yes, please. >> Because we have Kevin Petro on um the

[1:36:29] highway department also with time. Would it be I mean would it be [snorts] okay

[1:36:35] to offer a position to him or he still have time? And you tell me he was

[1:36:39] offered that position, right? >> He said no before. That doesn't mean no.

[1:36:44] » We should always advertise the position. Always.

[1:36:47] » Especially if they don't have no matter what.

[1:36:50] problem without having. It's the whole reason why we have Kevin back is

[1:36:52] temporary because oh lack of CD

[1:36:57] » and then when you see the advertisement you look at it just like everybody else

[1:37:02] » think you [clears throat] just

[1:37:06] » Okay. Yeah. That's still

[1:37:09] » I'm fine with advertising. >> Yeah, I'm fine.

[1:37:11] » Y

[1:37:14] » Okay. Any other action needs to be taken in front of the board this evening? Can

[1:37:18] I ask a question? Sure. >> I'm sorry. Just brought it up. So now I

[1:37:22] need to know. We have an record has an event at the end of this month.

[1:37:26] » We can't take cash for those light up toys anymore. I need to know now because

[1:37:30] we I really need to have a meeting with you.

[1:37:32] » I think you have to. >> Okay. That's how we advert.

[1:37:36] » Okay. Thank you. All right. >> Upcoming meetings. Uh council we have

[1:37:42] committee meetings next Monday. personnel, emergency man, emergency

[1:37:46] services and finance. Uh on the 24th, the last Monday of the month, uh three

[1:37:53] more committee meetings, public health, public facilities, and community

[1:37:57] economic development. Our next board meeting is going to be the 19th of

[1:38:01] August or I'm sorry, 19th of 14th of this September. Um and that will be the

[1:38:08] conclusion of our summer schedule. So we'll go back to workshops in October,

[1:38:14] November, December. New business. Any new business topics

[1:38:20] be discussed? I'll ask the one question just

[1:38:29] um where are we at with the audit? >> I was going to ask that question.

[1:38:36] » Do you want to ask it? I'll tell you I'll withdraw my question and

[1:38:39] » No, you go ahead. That was a good [laughter] question. THAT WAS A REALLY

[1:38:42] GOOD QUESTION TO ASK BECAUSE I THOUGHT the audit was done by now.

[1:38:47] » I thought we were looking at some Was the auditor looking for like leases?

[1:38:51] » Yes. So, because you have a new auditor in place, they're asking for information

[1:38:55] that your prior auditor would have had at some point and they wouldn't have

[1:38:59] needed to ask for it. >> Okay. Um, some of that information has

[1:39:03] not been located by Marlene because it's either not available in files [snorts]

[1:39:07] or I don't know the reason I want to get to it. Um, there are a few documents

[1:39:12] including lease agreements for vehicles. Um,

[1:39:16] grant agreements um for funds received that would have been um, you know, I

[1:39:23] think kept on filed by the prior borrow manager, but they weren't able to. So

[1:39:29] last week I was able to provide some compensating support for the auditors um

[1:39:35] for several of the items. Um they're a waitformation

[1:39:39] that I think you have to work with. >> That's the only

[1:39:43] » I think if I think from our side we've given another

[1:39:52] handle. Okay. >> And they should

[1:39:56] Okay. Any

[1:40:00] other new business?

[1:40:19] » Open discussion.

[1:40:26] Anything from

[1:40:31] » Jackson?

[1:40:35] » Anything from the public?

[1:40:39] » At this time, I entertain a motion to adjourn.

[1:40:41] » So move. >> Can I have a second?

[1:40:43] » Second.

[1:40:47] » All in favor, please say I. >> I. Meeting adjourn at 8:42.

[1:40:52] Thank you.

[1:41:02] » [laughter]

2026 August 10 Eddystone Borough Council Workshop Meeting

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