September 21, 2026 Special Village Board Meeting - Sep 21st, 2026

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[0:00] Well, welcome. Call the meeting to order. Can we please have a roll call, ma'am?
[0:06] Yes, Mr. Keller? Here?
[0:08] Do we hear? Here?
[0:10] Karen Northrup. Here. Scott Rasmussen. Here.
[0:13] Mike Johnson, absent. Okay, next is the pledge of allegiance.
[0:18] All right, why do we? This is the flag of the United States of America.
[0:23] And the Republic for which it expands one nation.
[0:26] and I'm your dad,
[0:28] intervisual with liberty and justice for the law.
[0:32] Thank you.
[0:33] Thank you.
[0:33] Thank you.
[0:36] All right, I'll make the motion to approve the agenda.
[0:39] Second.
[0:40] We have a motion.
[0:41] We have a second.
[0:41] We'll take a vote.
[0:42] All in favor.
[0:43] Aye.
[0:44] Motion carries.
[0:45] Next is open circuit.
[0:50] Anything?
[0:50] Yes.
[0:51] Yeah, Joe.
[0:52] We're going to do a sound test today at the village.
[0:56] You parking lot with me and another pretty
[1:00] could pick a ball player. We're going to hit the ball back and forth, soft shots, hard shots,
[1:04] lots of hard shots. And we have two residents from Apple Ridge that are going to participate by
[1:15] being in their community and listening for any sound at the time that we conduct this,
[1:20] which is 130 and a second. I think we're going to ask Nancy if she will walk over to Ridgewoods
[1:27] and stand over there.
[1:30] Oh, man.
[1:32] Oh.
[1:32] Well, I was thinking, I was thinking,
[1:36] you guys are down in the park.
[1:39] I'll be up on the condo up above.
[1:43] And I'll be on my phone and say,
[1:44] okay, start hitting the ball and I'll wave.
[1:47] And you'll see if I can hear you.
[1:48] If I can hear you, if I can't,
[1:50] try and zoom in.
[1:51] Well, where are you saying you're going to be?
[1:54] But the condo behind the.
[1:56] He's talking about rich one rich one. Okay, all right, and then okay, so you guys hit it back and forth a little bit
[2:03] And I'll say okay, I can't hear you then I'll go down to the other condo association on my phone and say okay
[2:09] Start hitting it and you can hit it and if I can't hear you or whatever. All right, dude that way or you could have net
[2:16] No, no, no, I think good. Yeah, I know that pride for that. That's the way I was thinking. So Joe or John
[2:22] I mean the takeaway is someone's going to probably hear you guys hitting the ball, right?
[2:26] it's just the nature of the pitch and I don't know. I don't think there's a tree falls in the woods
[2:34] yeah. I hear you pick a ball or should you like here? That is actually a noise.
[2:41] So also in pickleball world I got a listing for a short-term rental down on the point this weekend
[2:53] and which has its own pickle walk heart.
[2:59] And it's right in the middle of the neighborhood.
[3:03] I don't know, I used to go down there and see it
[3:06] because I can't figure out the nine bedrooms, six bathroom, house.
[3:10] And it's right in, it's a block off of the shore road.
[3:16] I don't know, I don't know.
[3:18] I don't know, I used to do it.
[3:19] Yeah, I do.
[3:20] Okay. Any? It advertises a fiddle ball court. Right. Interesting. I think I see. Oh, there's my beach. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's one. There's sportsography
[3:30] there that has tennis court and they painted fickle ball lines in there. Right. Maybe is that the same one? You're
[3:36] in different. No, I think it's only a fickle ball court. And then also down it, what's the community south, Megan, where we had all the
[3:44] the, uh, issues with the rock and show. Oh, Mary road. Mary road. Yeah, this is going
[3:50] back to high water. The days of high water. And, uh, well, there's one thing I'm
[3:56] talking about too. That's right. Yeah. Right. Yep. So, uh, they put in a pickleball court
[4:02] and that is a little controversial mainly for high water marks. Yeah. So much from the pickleball.
[4:08] But, you know, I haven't heard a thing. Right. Yeah.
[4:13] I have one other thing in open session. We have some trees that are not looking so good.
[4:19] Like the crab apple ones, there's some crab apples and there are a couple of other trees,
[4:24] I know some in north town. Okay and they have a couple of them have a large big canopy over them,
[4:33] over the top of them. So I don't know if that needs to be trimmed because it's shielding them
[4:39] from sunlight or kind of dorthening them.
[4:42] But just in the past few couple of weeks,
[4:44] I've noticed quite a few that really don't look very good.
[4:48] I can check him with Tom.
[4:49] He just soft like two weeks ago.
[4:52] And he said that there's three of the crab apples downtown
[4:55] that we should talk about replacing.
[4:57] So he was heading down.
[5:01] Towards one of the nurseries, so I had asked them to get me some pricing, and then we could talk a lot if we wanted to replace them this year or next year. But I'll ask them about the north tap section two and to see if there's any concern. And there's a couple out in the court too, and that couples that have a lot of dead branches. OK.
[5:19] OK, I can touch base of him on that.
[5:23] Okay.
[5:27] Anything else in open session?
[5:28] I have one item.
[5:29] Sure.
[5:30] There will be a bring in a budget box.
[5:32] So I can start packing those.
[5:35] Yeah.
[5:37] Okay.
[5:37] Bring them in this week.
[5:39] This one is possible.
[5:40] It would be great.
[5:41] Yeah.
[5:41] I can start packing them as we go through the different ones.
[5:45] I have a budget book.
[5:46] Yeah.
[5:47] Yeah.
[5:47] I got yours in the office.
[5:48] Okay.
[5:49] You will have one.
[5:50] But just to remind us of the meeting dates in touch for the budget meetings, 28th and 29th about 4th.
[6:01] And it should be on your calendar already because I sent you an insight so hopefully it's on your phone or.
[6:07] Yeah, you'll be in town.
[6:11] I think so.
[6:17] Yeah, I did.
[6:20] I did. We had options. I did bump it up against the World Series calendar and that's totally excited. It's too early. Yeah, keep it together.
[6:28] Yeah, it's alright, right?
[6:31] Yeah, we're good.
[6:33] Yes, noon,
[6:37] noon book days.
[6:40] Twenty-twenty-nine noon book days.
[6:45] What are we thinking that we should start with lunch?
[6:47] Well, that one should be a part of it now.
[6:50] Come, come, come.
[6:51] Come, come, come.
[6:52] Okay.
[6:52] Yep.
[6:53] I'm gonna try to do that.
[6:54] I could bring some snacks.
[6:57] Yeah, maybe snacks, but snacks and water.
[7:00] Yeah.
[7:01] Snacks and water.
[7:02] We're about snacks and wine.
[7:07] Yeah, so we're agenda item.
[7:09] Should we be going on to number three?
[7:10] Oh, okay.
[7:11] David is online meeting.
[7:13] Yeah, okay.
[7:14] So.
[7:16] David Pullman.
[7:19] So
[7:22] review of consideration of impossible action on application
[7:26] for the temporary expansion of license premise
[7:29] for a company ink doing business
[7:33] is that shipwreck group for October 10 and 11, which is pumpkin patch. So it's just
[7:42] them expanding their area. They want to sell it outside. We'll send them assuming.
[7:48] This was approved last year for them. The village board approved it. The only difference this year
[7:54] with the application is the actual skill drying. The expansion areas a little bigger, but it's still all
[8:00] of their property. So, okay. So, you're okay with the application? I am, yes. Any questions
[8:11] from anyone? Not a review, it seems like to leave. I'll make a motion to approve the application
[8:17] for temporary expansion of license, premise, conge, company, ink for October 10th, 2026 and the
[8:25] We have a motion. We have a second in the other comments. Okay, you're in non will take a vote on favor. Hi any opposed to abstaining motion carries.
[8:35] Thank you, but you're ready to go. All right. Thanks. I appreciate it.
[8:39] Thank you.
[8:42] Okay. Administrator follow up. Ripper out placement at each break wall.
[8:48] Yes, so just put this on the agenda just because we're meeting. So if you likely recall at your regular September meeting, we talked about removing and now replacing the rep rep on the outer wall of the beach break wall.
[9:01] After that change was communicated with the project engineer,
[9:05] of course, I reached out to Skyler after the meeting,
[9:06] and let him know what we had decided.
[9:08] He reached out to Wisconsin DNR to inform them of the change.
[9:12] And unfortunately, per permit with the DNR,
[9:15] we need to replace that rip wrap on the outer wall of the structure.
[9:19] So they are requiring that.
[9:20] John actually had direct communication with Skyler on his conversations
[9:25] with the DNR last Thursday.
[9:29] I was down in search and vehicular tourism zone meeting and John and Skyler had some
[9:33] petachans to review. So John, do you have any additional comments based on your discussion with?
[9:39] No, not really. No.
[9:43] So we have to do it. There's also, in retrospect, there are also safety considerations like
[9:49] this. I had a phone call from a resident down, well it lives, actually it doesn't. He lives
[9:57] from the top but in any rate he's
[10:00] There's an Antsim experience, he's a resident of Chicago, he adds an experience of some kids diving off the rug. Of a situation similar to what we have, one is a paraplegic, one broke his neck, and one is recovering. But there's some safety issues there. To the water at the end of the breakwater is only 4 feet.
[10:24] Okay, so my understanding is it's safer to have the rip wrap?
[10:29] Well, I'd be diving into rocks.
[10:32] So it'd be obvious though.
[10:34] No, it's going to be up to the edge.
[10:37] Yeah, but you can see it's a two to one slope.
[10:40] You have to go out about 16 feet.
[10:42] Okay.
[10:43] And then they'll build it up and build it up to the to be even with the top of the wall.
[10:50] So we're not going to store any extra rip wrap.
[10:52] That's what we talked about before.
[10:53] Well, we're going to store it somewhere else.
[10:55] And if we have some per ad, but we don't know what that's it.
[10:58] Megan's is all part of the contract anyway to replace it.
[11:01] Oh, yeah.
[11:01] Well, yeah.
[11:02] Well, yeah, there's no change to any budget going back to original plan.
[11:07] Your case, the great.
[11:07] Right.
[11:08] So that means that the rip wrap is going to be all around the end
[11:12] of the break box.
[11:12] Just the outer wall.
[11:14] Outer wall.
[11:14] So the inside of the short side, short edge
[11:18] and the inside wall will not have rip wrap.
[11:20] OK.
[11:21] Yeah.
[11:23] So this will be revised. This is existing. This is revised with the dotted line.
[11:29] Okay, so we'll be only on the north side and then a portion of the west side. So this goes away. That goes away.
[11:40] Okay. Okay. Okay. We did talk about we had one ladder from the inside, where we talked about either moving that to the as to that.
[11:52] Yeah.
[11:53] Yeah.
[11:57] It's here right now. So either adding another one here or moving this one there just so that it's super obvious.
[12:06] I guess, and it's not, it's not because of safety for the, I didn't say to you, nothing
[12:12] you do with it.
[12:14] The latter, I think it's, I think it's, uh, a rough route.
[12:17] Yeah, that's news to me, but, I mean, it's interesting, I guess you don't dive if you obviously
[12:22] see what I used to take away.
[12:24] Oh, but kids, you know, that's the problem that a dumb, you know, kid wants to do something
[12:31] stupid.
[12:32] Yeah.
[12:32] Right.
[12:33] So that's the ultimate stupid thing.
[12:35] Right, but, but that would still be possible for someone to make that decision. Well, here that's, you know, anywhere where we do plan on having like no diving painted on there and, and all of that.
[12:50] And I don't know the, you know, I don't know exactly
[12:53] and where, what the DNR's opinion is of the rip rap,
[12:57] it's just that that was an original permit
[12:59] and that's what needs to be replaced there.
[13:01] I don't know.
[13:02] So we'd have to re-permit,
[13:03] but we really did not want rip rap, correct?
[13:06] Yeah, oh, yeah, okay.
[13:07] And maybe not even get the permit approved for that.
[13:10] So I mean, that process takes, I think we waited a year.
[13:13] Yeah, I understand.
[13:13] Okay, that makes sense then.
[13:15] And you know, we're talking about
[13:17] one is a place where they can jump off
[13:19] or thinking about putting a rap down.
[13:20] Yeah, that's a pretty likely possibility, isn't it?
[13:24] The rat, yeah, yeah.
[13:25] That's going in a bunch.
[13:26] Well, so, you know, but that's going to be like,
[13:28] No, I think it'll be over.
[13:30] It'll be over here.
[13:31] I think it'll be over.
[13:32] Oh, okay.
[13:33] It'll be over in there, similar.
[13:34] Yeah, I mean, but it's about to be deep enough
[13:37] so that gets to know after it's been a swimmer
[13:39] about six or eight hours.
[13:40] Well, you know, depends on what the water is.
[13:43] And that changes too.
[13:44] I don't know.
[13:44] I've such a john mind whole thing about this
[13:46] is that it takes personal responsibility away from,
[13:48] And then you can't, I mean, people jaywalk and make it get hit by a car and you know, it's not our fault, you know, there's just a lot of things, but because, because it basically can't be changed.
[14:02] So that's the way it is.
[14:03] But if we are at all worried about safety and I think moving another putting another ladder in sort of implies.
[14:11] It's not deep enough and also you can see that it's not deep enough and that's what we're trying to do.
[14:17] The rip wrap has to go back no matter what doesn't, apparently doesn't matter.
[14:22] Right. That's nothing to do with anything but because of Warren James's comment about somebody diving off.
[14:31] You know, just because there's no rocks doesn't mean there's still not going to be that at all.
[14:38] I mean, I remember being down there 10 years ago, and somebody just fell into the rocks and
[14:48] was injured and, you know, had to hit her head and was bleeding and whatever. So I mean,
[14:52] there's always safety risk whether there's rocks there or not, I guess, at the end of the day.
[14:57] I think the rocks make it less safe to be honest.
[15:07] No, I don't think we need a motion. It's just the follow-up that, you know, the action that you took at your last meeting, you know, won't I kind of want that to be part of the record. So I'll make a motion that we are in agreement with replacing the report on the North and East side.
[15:29] of the break wall.
[15:33] For the permit.
[15:36] For the permit.
[15:38] Okay, so we have a motion.
[15:39] We have a second.
[15:39] We'll take a vote.
[15:40] All in favor?
[15:41] Aye.
[15:42] Any opposed to abstaining?
[15:45] Motion carries.
[15:46] Right.
[15:47] Back to open session.
[15:49] Just a comment about the placement of the rat.
[15:50] I think we just want to.
[15:53] Put it.
[15:54] In a spot that.
[15:56] that would, you know, base upon, I guess, recent water levels,
[16:02] not, it'd be safe if someone's gonna dive off of it.
[16:06] Yeah, oh yeah, but I can't go,
[16:10] I mean, there's lots of places where it could go
[16:12] and it's not permanent, it's just permanent for the summer.
[16:15] So it can get moved.
[16:18] Yeah, I think we'd want like six feet of water.
[16:21] At any point, but it also has to be like
[16:23] then those buoys too, right?
[16:24] Yeah.
[16:25] you know, and I don't know if the movies are. So you just want to set our residents up for yeah. Oh, yeah, you know, the safe experience is possible. Right. Yep. Okay.
[16:38] And I think we're going to work with the same.
[16:43] Yes.
[16:44] Well, the same company's distributors and the same company that we're purchasing the swim raft from will be the ones that we work with to place it.
[16:52] So, you know, the actually a follow up that I need to get to them is water depth, which I talked to Alibo because we had just done that I didn't realize like first surveying can just they have a boat and they can just go out and pull water.
[17:10] So we'll work with him to get the water duct data will reach them and they'll kind of help us site it.
[17:15] So, I mean, I could see that I could move just naturally until it's, it's not.
[17:23] No, move like.
[17:25] No, I think we would just.
[17:34] We'll work this company to pull it out.
[17:36] And sister, they just like leaves theirs on site somewhere.
[17:39] So maybe that building.
[17:40] If they put the.
[17:41] So there's no.
[17:41] Sandra?
[17:42] Right.
[17:44] Because it can only be in outside of those in water work restrictions.
[17:50] So it's like June 15 through November 15.
[17:53] No.
[17:54] It has to be pulled out before that.
[17:56] So.
[17:57] Okay.
[17:57] Do we.
[17:58] Do we have discretion into where we put the outer limits of our.
[18:05] Luis.
[18:06] Do you know?
[18:08] I think we have.
[18:09] I have a permit on that on like what because I think each buoy has to be permitted with the DNR honestly. I have to ask Gallia remember just checking about the no wake buoys and she just checked with them on that and I think there was a permit.
[18:38] So I think it is permanent through the DR.
[18:41] Okay.
[18:44] All right.
[18:45] So we're in the second open session.
[18:50] Anything?
[18:52] I'll make a motion to adjourn.
[18:55] Second.
[18:55] We have a motion. We have a second.
[18:57] We'll take a vote all in favor.
[18:58] All right.
[18:59] We're adjourned.
[19:01] Okay.
[19:01] Okay.