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It's not like we did it.
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» Did you guys set a time last time to
bring that out or was it right away?
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» Okay.
>> Did you guys set a date to put that out
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right away? Okay.
>> Uh yeah, it was right away. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah.
>> Excellent. I know right. Okay.
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Excellent.
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culminating in that moment.
>> All right. So, we see
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» not so effective that game.
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» Didn't give you the bag. Did you not got
one?
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» I did.
>> Thought you did.
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» Did you get a mic back for her or No, I
thought you did.
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» Did you have a mic back for her? No, I
thought you did.
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» Oh, I thought you said you had five.
>> Okay, I misunderstood you earlier.
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Oh,
I misur
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» they were kind of hear
people and I
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don't know half of
We can
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» thank you.
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» It's all funny games
>> until it's not.
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» How are you?
fine for you.
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» We're here. We're all right.
>> So, you heard about the amendment.
[2:14]
» If you are comfortable reading it in,
then we can do it as read or we can do
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it as an amendment after.
>> So, the only thing different is the
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dollar amount.
>> Correct. We're just moving 50k between
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those two
within the general budget.
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you all here.
Oh, that's so perfect. And it's so
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small. It's just right.
It's a little bit after 8 o'clock. It's
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good to see you all here.
>> I'm 7 o'clock. Pardon me. Maybe I should
[4:05]
reset my time zones again. No, only
kidding. It's a little bit after 7
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o'clock. Thank you for being here. This
is a different sound system than uh
[4:16]
talking out of that speaker up there in
the ceiling. So, it's a
[4:21]
different feel, a different vibe on how
the speakers are working. Does this work
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for you?
>> A little too boommy, maybe?
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» Yeah, we could cut that back a little
bit.
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Thank you.
[4:37]
So, as you know, um,
we've got this clicker system going on,
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the remotes. How many is this new to
tonight? Have seen this for the first
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time?
Okay. Well, one of the things we will do
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is test them.
So, when we call for a vote tonight,
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I'll
we'll introduce a question. Then I'll
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say the voting period is now open. And
every one of you will take your remote
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and click yes or no depending on your
preference to the question or not vote
[5:10]
at all if you choose. And then when I
think there's been enough time for
[5:16]
everybody to have pushed a button or the
tally shows on the screen that
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everybody's voted, we'll close the
voting period and you'll see instant
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results [snorts] on the screen for
whether the article passed or didn't
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pass. So, all with these little remotes.
But one of the things we do want to do,
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you have the test question, right? Have
>> a test question.
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» Yes. One of the things we do want to do
is ensure that everybody's remote works.
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So, we could practice right now before
we get going with a test question. If
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everybody's got a remote,
would you like to put that up on the
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screen?
>> I will try to do that.
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» Okay.
By the way, my name's Rich Peabody. I'm
[6:01]
your moderator. Been doing this for a
couple decades now or more.
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I enjoy hanging out with you at these
special town meetings and the annual
[6:10]
town meeting.
Your aspect ratio exceeds the screen
[6:16]
size. Is that going to be a problem?
Is that the television or is that your
[6:21]
laptop?
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question.
>> Oh, okay. No, you're not missing any
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words. All right.
>> All right. So, there's a simple
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question. It could be any article in the
thing, but
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» this question is, is it summer yet? So,
there's the question.
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I'm going to say the voting period is
now open. So, take your remote and
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choose whether or not you believe it
it's summer yet. Vote yes or no.
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or abstain, which is the yellow button,
the 3C on your remote, as you may wish.
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Voting period is open.
And everybody should push a button to
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make this a valid test. So, we compare
the number of people to the number of
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remotes to the number of votes.
>> I don't have that number.
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» 54.
>> 54.
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We got 52
people that didn't vote.
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They should say okay. They should say
okay if they're working.
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» Oh yeah. So your screen if you voted
should give you a response saying okay
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on it. The little screen. If your vote
did not give you a response okay your
[7:47]
remote has a problem and you can swap it
out for another remote.
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Okay, we got 54 now, so we're good.
>> Excellent. So, 54 people have registered
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to come in. We have 54 votes on the
screen. That's a good thing.
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All right. So, that's how this works.
It's pretty simple. It takes a lot of
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that walking around and counting or I
want to call for a paper ballot. Um, it
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takes all that out of the equation. You
vote your conscience on the remote. You
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see the results instantly
and we move on to the next question.
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So with that
>> hamp.
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» Would you like to do another test
question just quickly so we can verify
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that we're all set?
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» No. Okay, we're good.
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I'd like to quickly note that the Irving
Public Library has a quick announcement.
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Abby, are you here?
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get the better the people hear you.
>> Can you hear me?
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» Great. Um, my name is Abby Baines. I am
not a resident of Irving, but I am your
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library director. Um, and I'm inviting
you tonight to make your voice heard by
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taking our community survey. Uh we've
talked to many of you on the way in and
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uh we appreciate your time and
appreciate you sharing this with your
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fellow residents um and non-residents
who come to town and want to share their
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opinion about the wonderful Irving
Library. Um your feedback helps us
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improve the things you can borrow, the
spaces you can use, community events,
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and how librarians can help you. And it
is going to guide our strategic planning
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for the next five years. Um a little bit
of facts here. Over the past two years,
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the number of programs and events we
offer has gone up 20%. Building visitors
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have gone up 35% and reference questions
have gone up 55%.
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Library staff and trustees want to make
sure that the library services meet the
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expectations of Irving residents and
taxpayers. So, your filling out the
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community survey will help us do that.
You can take the survey tonight on that
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piece of paper that we gave you. You can
fill it out online using the QR code or
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short URL on that form. There will also
be paper copies at the library, town
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hall, senior, and community center. And
we're printing copies in the June Irving
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around town newsletter. Um, so we thank
you very much uh in advance for your
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time and feedback. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Abby.
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All right, we have a town meeting to get
on with, so I'm going to start off our
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official proceedings as so. Commonwealth
of Massachusetts, Franklin SS, Town of
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Irving, Constable, Town Clerk, and
Administrative Assistant. In the name of
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the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, you
are directed to notify and warn the said
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inhabitants qualified to vote in town
affairs to meet in the Irving Elementary
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School located at 28 Northfield Road,
Irving, Massachusetts,
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zip code 01344 on Wednesday, May 13,
2026 at 7 o'clock p.m. then and there to
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vote on the following articles and they
are listed in your handout warrant as
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articles 1 through 34.
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In addition, you are hereby directed to
serve the above warrant and to post a
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tested copies as directed by vote of the
town at least 7 days before said
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meeting. fail not and make do return of
this warrant with your doings thereon to
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the town clerk for the day of said
meeting given under our hands this 13th
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day of April 2026 signed by the Irving
select board.
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» Okay. All right.
>> The copies were posted up in this
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certification Commonwealth of
Massachusetts Franklin SS Town of
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Irving. I have served the above warrant
posts by posting attested copies as
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directed by vote of the town at least
seven days before the time of holding
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said meeting and it is signed by Richard
Newton our town clerk
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as is directed by law.
With that I declare our town meeting to
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be open. I thank you for coming here and
I ask you to please rise and take this
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privilege and opportunity
>> to pledge allegiance to our flag and
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country.
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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands one nation
indivisible with liberty and justice for
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all.
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Thank you very much.
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I have a quick motion to make. It's
become a standard motion for us. It
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helps us speed things along since you
all have the printed warrant in front of
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you.
I move that reading of all articles be
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waved and that prior to the reading of a
motion under the article, the moderator
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the moderator briefly summarize the
content of the article to be considered
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and further that unless objection is
raised the reading of the detailed
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motions be waved where the article as
printed can in the opinion of the
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moderator be incorporated by reference
in any motion presented.
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I need a motion to accept.
>> Second.
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» Thank you very much.
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» We have a motion and a second putting
this procedural motion in front of us.
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Do you have a slide for that?
>> I do.
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[snorts]
>> The uh voting on this procedural motion.
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It's uh something we do all the time.
Are there any questions?
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No questions appearing. The voting
period for this motion is open. Please
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register your vote now.
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And with 54 votes appearing, the voting
period is closed.
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should be 60 now.
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» We can uh wait another second or two. If
you haven't voted, please do. I see one
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remote is being swapped out because we
had another Dud.
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Did everybody vote? That number should
go up to 60 if you pushed the button.
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All right. So, since we didn't get to
60, somebody's remote is either not
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working or somebody chose not to push a
button. Let's try this again just to be
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sure everybody's remotes are working.
Okay. Can you uh delete the votes and
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start over? No,
>> I not I mean, I can close out this one
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and redo it, but Okay. a second.
>> Okay. Well, did the article pass or not?
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» I would say that it would pass by
majority even if one vote negative.
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» Yeah. Well, I don't see the yeses and
nos up there.
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» Oh, okay. Let's close the vote.
>> Close the vote. [laughter]
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» Thank you.
>> Can you [snorts] put a test question up
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again?
>> I certainly can.
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» Just to be sure all these remotes are
working.
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[laughter]
>> All right. Here's our test question
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number three. Are you ready for school
to be out? Everybody take your remote.
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» Choose what your vote is going to be.
The voting period is now open.
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We need to get to the right number to be
sure everybody's remote works. You will
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see a response on the screen saying
okay if your remote works
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» good. Thank you. Thank you for playing
the game.
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» Let you get back to where where you
needed to be.
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» All right. So, we're back on track.
Article one. It's
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redoing that.
>> Oh, you want to redo that? I thought
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that's what you wanted because the other
one, you know, it's up to you.
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» It passed.
>> I would say so. All right.
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» Yeah, it passed. There was no way it was
going to fail with those numbers.
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» Okay. Article one, acceptance of the
calendar year 2025 town report,
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which is this thing that you picked up
on the way through the door. It's
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submitted by the select board and the
finance committee recommends approval.
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» Make a motion to accept article one as
printed.
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» Second.
>> I have a motion and a second putting it
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in front of us.
It's pretty comprehensive.
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Does anybody have anything to say
regarding the town report?
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No. Okay. Any questions regarding the
town report?
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With no questions appearing, all those
in favor of article one, please signify
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by well, take your remote. Take your
remote and vote. The voting period is
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now open.
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And of course, we've achieved the
number. So the voting period is closed
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and the result is the article has passed
with a majority.
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Article two, it's appropriate for FY2025
expenses
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$147.90
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from the FY2026
wastewater enterprise fund. It's
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submitted by the town administrator and
the finance committee recommends
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approval.
>> Make a motion to print.
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» Motion in a second. Puts it in front of
us. Are there any questions?
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With no questions appearing, I open the
voting period for that question and
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please register your vote.
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And we'll close the voting period in
three, two, one.
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And the result is the article has passed
with a majority.
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Article three, close the library
construction project fund. And we're
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going to move that $138 in that fund to
the general fund. It's submitted by the
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town administrator and the finance
committee recommends approval.
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» Make a motion to accept the printed.
>> Second.
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» Motion in a second brings it in front of
us. Are there any questions?
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With no questions appearing, the voting
period for article 3 is now open. Please
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register your preference on article
three.
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And with 60 votes in, the voting period
is closed and our results are article
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three is passed for the majority.
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Article four,
appropriation for special revenues
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funds. There's 600 $68,4906
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we're going to take from free cash and
move it to this special revenue fund for
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the CARES Act. And then another $990.52
from the wastewater enterprise fund that
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will also go to this special revenue
fund submitted submitted by the town
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administrator and the finance committee
recommends approval.
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» Make a motion to set article 4 to print
it.
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motion in a second putting it in front
of us for anyone who has questions,
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concerns,
or wishes for an explanation.
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With no questions appearing, I'll open
the voting period for article 4. Please
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take your remote and register your
preference on article 4.
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And we'll bring the voting period to a
close in three, two,
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one.
Oh, and all 60 votes were in. So, looks
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like article 4 also passes with a
majority.
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Well, this is quick. It takes some of
the fun out of it. [laughter]
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Article five, appropriate for FY2026
capital improvements.
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We're going to appropriate $30,000
for the FY2026 capital improvement
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projects
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and submitted by the select board. The
capital planning committee recommends
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approval as well as the finance
committee.
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» Second.
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questions on this.
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With no questions appearing, the voting
period for article 5 is now open. Please
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take your remote and register your
opinion on article 5. Yes. No, abstain.
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Now's the time to vote.
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And we'll bring the voting period to a
close in three,
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two,
one.
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Article five has passed with a majority.
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Article six is the authorization to
apply for federal and state grants. We
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authorize the select board to apply for
federal and state grants as they may
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need or as the requirement may come up.
It's submitted by the select board and
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the finance committee recommends
approval.
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» Make a motion.
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» Motion and a second. Bring it in front
of us. Thank you very much.
[23:41]
Any questions or concerns with article
six?
[23:50]
With no questions, all those in favor of
article six, please take your remote.
[23:55]
The voting period is now open. Please
register your opinion on article six.
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Yes. No. Abstain.
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and we'll bring the voting period to a
close in three,
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two,
one.
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Article six has passed with the
majority.
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Article seven, the annual authorization
to dispose of surplus property. It's
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authorizing the select board to dispose
of anything that is determined to be
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surplus. Submitted by the select board
and the finance committee recommends
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approval.
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» Second.
>> Article seven. Are there questions or
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concerns?
>> Yes.
[24:56]
» No.
>> And thank you. Come on down to our
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microphone here and uh lean in close.
The closer you are, the more the people
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can hear.
>> Hi, Devin God, 13 North Street. Uh, I
[25:08]
was wondering what properties are
surplus and how is it you dispose of
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them? Like do you put them on the market
for sale? What what is the process to
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then get rid of them if you have
properties already selected?
[25:22]
» Uh, sure. So, it depends on what it is.
Um, we had some earlier tonight, for
[25:25]
example, and it was uh equipment that
was end of useful life generally.
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Sometimes it's equipment that we have
replaced for other reasons and we have a
[25:35]
surplus um property policy that we
follow which includes three reads uh at
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a select board meeting before we make a
determination or more. And at that time
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we usually take the advice of the
department recommending surplus. uh as
[25:51]
well as other input on whether we should
put it um out to to bid offer it to uh
[25:58]
other towns once we've already you know
checked with other departments uh or if
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it is of you know no useful life left
and needs to be scrapped or disposed of.
[26:06]
» Okay. So this is physical equipment not
necessarily real estate property.
[26:10]
» Correct. Okay. Thanks. Yeah.
>> Usually that's what we deal with most of
[26:16]
the time.
[26:20]
Okay, good question. Thank you for the
answer. Are there further questions?
[26:28]
With no questions appearing, the voting
period on article 7 is now open. Please
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signify your preference on article
number seven.
[26:47]
All the votes are in. So, article 7 has
passed with a majority.
[26:55]
Article 8, authorization to enter into a
compensating balance agreements. It
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authorizes the treasurer and collector
to enter into such agreements. According
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to Massachusetts general law, it's
submitted by the select board and the
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finance committee recommends approval.
[27:14]
Make a motion to accept our printed
second
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» motion and a second brings it in front
of us. Yes, Jackie.
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» Does it say fiscal year 27 and not 26?
[27:31]
» Yes.
Is that an amendment?
[27:35]
» Can I
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have to make an amendment?
I'd like you to propose an amendment.
[27:45]
» Sure.
[27:53]
» Uh Jackie Bdon, um Northfield Road. Uh I
make amendment to article 8 um where it
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says fiscal year 26 to say fiscal year
27.
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» Motion in a second. puts it in front of
us to change fiscal year 2026
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to fiscal year 2027,
which would be the correct wording for
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that article.
[28:25]
So, do you have a slide for an
amendment?
[28:29]
» Maybe it doesn't fit all there, but says
I I put amendment on the end of it. I
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copied it and put an amendment on the
end of it, but I guess it's just too
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long.
[28:41]
We're testing the system here,
>> which is part of why I wanted Jackie to
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do an amendment.
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» There there. All right. So, is there any
discussion on the amendment before I
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call for a vote on the amendment?
No discussion. All those in favor of
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amending article 8 to express fiscal
year 2027, please take your remote and
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express your preference on amending
article 20. Article 8.
[29:35]
And we'll bring that voting period to a
close in three, two, one.
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The article is amended.
[29:47]
All right. Now, the amended article 8 is
in front of us for consideration. Are
[29:53]
there further questions or concerns with
the amended article 8?
[30:00]
With none appearing,
[30:04]
the voting period for the amended
article 8 is open. Please signify your
[30:09]
preference.
[30:20]
I will bring this voting period to a
close in three,
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two,
one.
[30:27]
All 60 votes are in and the amended
article 8 has passed with a majority.
[30:36]
Thank you, Jackie. That that let us test
how that works because someday we're
[30:41]
going to be mired in the weeds here with
amendments to amendments and we're Yeah.
[30:47]
So that now we got one done.
[30:53]
All right. I'm going to backtrack just a
little bit because uh
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we had an election in this town at the
beginning of last week
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and a bunch of people came to town hall
and expressed their preferences
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on some elected positions and on a
question
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and so thank you all for showing up and
uh our marvelous pole workers who were
[31:20]
there all smiles and everything else. I
managed to schedule my work travel so I
[31:24]
could go with my lovely wife and vote
and then hightail it to the airport. Um
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so it was a pleasure to see you all at
the town hall.
[31:34]
So during this election um I'd like to
recognize that select board Jacqueline
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Bdon got a select board seat and for
assessor Jacqueline Bdon [laughter] got
[31:47]
an assessor seat. Um, our treasurer
position there was a failure to elect.
[31:53]
Um, library trustee, Linda DS, Benbury.
Thank you, Linda, for your continued use
[31:59]
there. Moderator, thank you very much.
School committee position one, Daniel
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Hammock. School committee position two,
there was a failure to elect two people
[32:10]
with the identical vote count, so nobody
actually won the position.
[32:14]
Uh, tree warden Glenn McCory.
Constable again, failure to elect.
[32:21]
Planning board position one, Deborah
Smith. Thank you for your hard work.
[32:26]
Planning board position two, Laura
Bazio.
[32:29]
Recreation Commission position one,
Katherine Godette. Recreation Commission
[32:34]
position two, failure to elect board of
health, Sally Delaney.
[32:40]
question to change the treasurer's
position from elected to appointed
[32:45]
passed.
So that's what happened with our
[32:48]
election the other day. You all
exercised your rights to come and vote
[32:53]
and choose and and do that kind of thing
here. I'd like to congratulate the
[32:57]
people who got elected. And I'd like to
congratulate all of you
[33:03]
for showing up at the polls and doing
the most American thing there is,
[33:08]
showing up to vote. And let's keep that
in mind as we move forward this year,
[33:14]
showing up to vote. Thank you very much.
[33:23]
All right, we're uh moving on from
article 8 to article nine. Article 9 is
[33:28]
the fiscal year 2027 general operating
budget
[33:33]
in the amount of 8,15,149.
[33:39]
It covers general government, public
safety, public works, health and human
[33:43]
services, culture and recreation
assessments and benefits.
[33:48]
Submitted by the select board and the
finance committee recommends approval.
[33:52]
» Make a motion to accept article 9.
motion and a second brings it in front
[33:58]
of us for any discussion that you may
wish to have on general operating budget
[34:04]
for fiscal year 2027.
>> Mr. Moderator.
[34:09]
» Yes.
I'd [cough and clears throat] like to
[34:12]
propose an amendment to
article 9 by moving $50,000 from the
[34:20]
benefits line and adding it to the
public works line. The net impact would
[34:26]
be zero.
The new public works total amended total
[34:31]
would be 954,777.
[34:37]
The new benefits line total would be
$2,849,454.
[34:47]
» Second that motion.
[34:54]
So, moving $50,000 from one line item to
the other line item.
[35:03]
Changing Health and Human Services to a
grand total of $954,77
[35:12]
and the benefits total to 2,849,454.
[35:18]
That was public works, not health and
human services for the first one.
[35:21]
» Oh, public works line. Thank you very
much. So, line number three, public
[35:27]
works, 954,777.
[35:31]
Line number seven, benefits 2,849,454.
[35:38]
All right, that's an amendment being
proposed to alter those two line items.
[35:45]
Is there any question on the amendment?
[35:58]
Jackie Bdon, Northfield Road. Can you
explain why you're doing it? And when we
[36:03]
get into the other um the actual I'd
like explanation if there's any
[36:08]
increases in positions and all that. It
was a very dense document. I did go
[36:12]
through it, but if the select board
could explain a little bit about the
[36:18]
budget.
[36:22]
So, the proposed amendment shifting that
funding um based on the
[36:30]
health care cost changes and the budget
needs, we honed in on that number being
[36:36]
slightly lower and to move it to public
works to be able to um backfill the
[36:43]
vacancy in that department. So just to
get the bal the funding to the to the
[36:47]
right level to do that and the majority
of the of the joint meeting of finance
[36:52]
and and the select board felt that that
was reasonable with the funds that we
[36:57]
have planned.
[37:03]
Okay. Further question on the amendment
and what it's doing or why it's doing
[37:07]
it?
[37:12]
No further question on the amendment.
Please take your remote and vote on this
[37:17]
amendment. Do you wish for the amendment
to proceed forward? Do you approve of
[37:21]
the amendment or you do you not? Or do
you wish to abstain on the question
[37:26]
altogether? Now's the time to vote.
>> Voting period on this amendment is still
[37:33]
[snorts] open
and it's closing in three,
[37:39]
two,
one.
[37:44]
The amendment has passed.
[37:51]
All right. So now we have the amended
article 8 for the general operating
[37:56]
budget with those new totals for those
two lines.
[38:00]
» Article nine. Thank you very much. I
love having people keeping me on the
[38:05]
straight and narrow. Thank you. Article
nine as amended. Is there are there
[38:10]
questions on article 9? Yes.
Come on down
[38:19]
[snorts]
[38:24]
and happy to have you here.
[38:29]
» Brenda Silva. Um I have recently
um been informed that in this article
[38:37]
there are additions or new salaries.
um one being an IT person at $100,000 a
[38:45]
year. Um and my question is why are we
going to be hiring someone for $100,000
[38:53]
paying benefits, pensions, health
insurance when something like this can
[38:57]
be farmed out to an IT company. I work
for a company that has 50 people in it
[39:03]
and everything is done remotely now. And
if there's a problem that can't be done
[39:08]
remotely, the company comes to the
business and we don't pay salaries for
[39:13]
anybody. We just pay the bill as the
bill comes in. I'm an accountant and I
[39:17]
know I pay the bill. So, it doesn't make
sense to me that we're paying $100,000
[39:24]
and adding that to our deficit because
our taxes just went up. And why are we
[39:29]
adding something that we can most
possibly farm out to a company who can
[39:35]
take care of computers and take care of
most of this stuff remotely? That's my
[39:39]
first question. The second question is
there's also in here um a salary or a
[39:46]
position in admin with no salary.
So why would we put a position in our
[39:54]
budget like that without telling us how
much we're paying for an admin position?
[40:00]
I personally don't want to hear about an
admin coming on paying and us paying
[40:04]
them 70 or 80 or $100,000 because it's
not spelled out. So
[40:11]
I'd like an explanation for those why
those things are being done the way
[40:14]
they're done and added to a deficit that
we already have.
[40:19]
» Okay. So I will address the first part
of your question. Now as an accountant I
[40:24]
think you could understand we're not
adding to a deficit. We're putting forth
[40:28]
a balanced budget. The IT position u as
I think we could all agree
[40:35]
is we depend more and more every day on
technology.
[40:40]
There are benefits and there are extreme
risks.
[40:44]
With the advent of
artificial intelligence, bad actors are
[40:49]
leveraging that. We need to make sure
that we are doing our due diligence to
[40:55]
protect sensitive information to you,
our community members that the town
[41:00]
stores. The reason we
thought about going inhouse and why this
[41:07]
position would warrant that that type of
wage is based on industry standards for
[41:14]
one, but we're looking for a specialized
individual. though a lot of people think
[41:21]
it or an IT staff is interchangeable
but
[41:28]
if you'll bear with me um
there are specialists within each area
[41:34]
of it. So if you would think of our uh
roadways,
[41:42]
there are specialists who design and
build the roads. There are specialists
[41:46]
who design and build the cars. And there
are specialists who protect the
[41:51]
passengers inside the cars. Okay? The
roadways are your networks.
[41:59]
That's what the information travels on.
The motor vehicles
[42:05]
are your systems, your applications that
the information travels in. Your data
[42:10]
travels in and the passengers are the
data itself. We need somebody who is
[42:16]
skilled in maintaining the roads,
maintaining the cars and making sure the
[42:22]
people are staying safe. That's a bit of
a unicorn.
[42:29]
So that position would warrant that
wage. I deal in this area in my
[42:35]
professional life and I know what the
industry pays
[42:40]
in my opinion and I expressed it with my
colleagues on the board and on the
[42:45]
finance committee is that
with the benefits that the town of
[42:51]
Irving offers, we're actually below the
industry standard with the benefits
[42:56]
balancing it off.
To answer your question, why we wouldn't
[43:00]
farm it out is for tech services
company, they would be servicing our
[43:07]
data as well as other people's data. And
in the event of a catastrophic breach or
[43:13]
something, their resources may be
strapped. If we have a person who's
[43:18]
dedicated solely to our resources,
they're responsible to us and only us.
[43:24]
So we know that should we have a problem
our needs will be met first and
[43:28]
foremost. That's the reason why we would
choose to do it in house.
[43:35]
» Does that answer your first question?
[43:47]
Everybody's
[43:51]
responsible for the same
[43:59]
in essence
[44:03]
and
[44:08]
[clears throat]
something that we still could do because
[44:11]
of the way
right now.
[44:26]
» And that's your that's your point.
That's your opinion based on your lived
[44:29]
experience. I respectfully disagree
based on mine.
[44:35]
» I haven't called on you.
>> Yeah. Um, I I would like if it's going
[44:40]
to be more than just a couple of words
to come up to the microphone so that it
[44:46]
becomes part of the record so we we all
can hear it. Um, and this lady has her
[44:51]
hand in the air. Hi, come on up.
[45:04]
» Hi, Holly Fitzpatrick, 108 Northfield
Road. Um, I've been an IT professional
[45:09]
for 45 years. During that time, I have
worked in many parts of it. I've done
[45:16]
the road, I've done the applications,
I've done it all. I've worked desktop,
[45:22]
I've worked multinational systems,
little bit of web. What the town is
[45:28]
looking for will require that much
money. And what they will get for it is
[45:34]
someone who can handle all the different
parts. I work as a contractor right now.
[45:40]
I work 10 hours a week. If they need me
outside of that 10 hours a week, oh
[45:46]
well, they have to wait until the next
week when I'm working again. So that's
[45:51]
the danger that you have by not having
inhouse. There's not always somebody A
[45:57]
who knows your business, B has any
loyalty to you and C is not necessarily
[46:04]
available. Thank you.
>> Thank you for your input and I'll take
[46:08]
your input now. Thank you.
>> Uh two two questions. The first one is
[46:14]
is this uh job a salary or hourly
projected to be 100,000 a year?
[46:21]
» Salary position.
>> Salary position. Okay. And the second
[46:24]
question is, is this one that you are is
it a position you're essentially turning
[46:29]
our current IT role into? Are we going
to maintain the current IT role that we
[46:34]
have or is this job going to be given to
the current IT role or are we going to
[46:39]
interview, post, etc. on online? Uh
there is a job description and it will
[46:47]
be posted and we will receive
applications
[46:52]
for people who are interested.
[46:56]
Thank you for those questions.
[47:01]
Okay. So
further questions on article 9.
[47:08]
Yes sir.
[47:14]
Hi, Mark Bernett, Swamp Road. Um, just
curious, it's really a followup to
[47:17]
Devon's uh question about the I think we
have I forget the title. I think it's
[47:22]
systems administrator. Um, if we hire a
full-time person, will the systems
[47:27]
administrator still be um that job still
be there? Sounds like there's going to
[47:33]
be two positions.
[47:38]
Yeah, I don't know that we've fully
discussed and made a determination on
[47:41]
that yet.
>> Okay.
[47:46]
Um
Okay. That seems like that would be
[47:49]
something we would decide before we
would vote in my opinion. They have a
[47:53]
different opinion, but um potentially.
So, this will be $150,000 for two IT
[48:00]
professionals
currently. I think that's how it is in
[48:03]
the uh budget book and I may be wrong
with that.
[48:07]
I'm not okay. Thank you.
[48:13]
Nice followup.
[48:17]
All right. Further question and or
comment on the amended article 9.
[48:26]
All right. Well, with no further
questions or comment appearing, the
[48:30]
amended article 9 voting period for the
amended article 9 is now open. Please
[48:37]
take your remote and express your
opinion on the amended article 9.
[48:46]
Time to vote on the amended article 9 is
now. So, please press the button of your
[48:52]
choice.
[48:58]
and the voting period will begin to end
in three,
[49:03]
two,
one.
[49:11]
The amended article 9 has passed for the
majority,
[49:23]
but I would like to note um 41 yeses, 17
nos, and one abstain. Those 17 nos are
[49:29]
making a statement that I believe should
be heard.
[49:37]
Article 10, it's the FY2027
elected official compensation. There's
[49:44]
162,360.50.
[49:49]
It covers a wide variety of people. You
see their their positions listed in the
[49:54]
article.
It's submitted by the select board and
[49:58]
the finance committee recommends
approval.
[50:00]
» Make a motion accept article 10.
>> Motion and a second brings it in front
[50:06]
of us.
Are there any question? Yes, there's one
[50:10]
right there already.
>> Hi, Jackie.
[50:15]
[clears throat]
[50:18]
» Jackie Boyd, Northfield Road. Because
we're changing our treasurer from
[50:23]
elected to appointed. Do we need to
propose an amendment to this article
[50:30]
because this article is for an elected
treasurer, not an appointed one? I
[50:35]
understand this is just allocating the
money in the budget, but it's saying as
[50:40]
an elected treasurer and not an
appointed. I just want to make sure that
[50:44]
we're doing this correct because the
position starting in fiscal 27 will be
[50:49]
for an appointed treasurer, not an
elected treasurer.
[50:55]
So that sets it if we hadn't elected
since we don't it's there but it's not
[51:01]
going to apply and it doesn't hurt
anything but it also isn't going to be
[51:05]
exercised because we won't elect a
treasurer. Uh the budget proposed and
[51:09]
the article prior that was passed has an
appropriate budget for either the
[51:15]
elected or an appointed treasurer. So
financially we have the right amount and
[51:21]
the determining a set salary for elected
would just be ignored effectively.
[51:26]
» So no need to change it but it won't be
exercised because we won't have one.
[51:29]
» Thank you.
[51:34]
» All right. Good question. Thank you for
the explanation. Are there further
[51:39]
questions?
[51:43]
All right. Article 10. Please take your
remote and express your opinion on
[51:48]
article 10. This is yes, no, or abstain.
The voting period is now open for
[51:54]
article 10.
[52:04]
And the voting period will begin to
close
[52:08]
in three, two,
one.
[52:15]
Article 10 has passed with a majority.
[52:22]
Article 11 is the FY2027
elementary education funding $3,867,031
[52:33]
for the Irving Elementary School and
related
[52:36]
submitted by the select board and the
finance committee recommends approval.
[52:40]
Make a motion accept article 11
purchase.
[52:43]
» Okay.
[52:46]
» Okay. $3 million for elementary
education. Are there any questions?
[52:54]
» Yes, sir.
[53:02]
[clears throat] Uh Devin got at North
Street. Um first it's nearly $4 million,
[53:07]
not three million. Um my my question
though is about the school committee
[53:09]
stipen. We just voted on the $7,90. Why
are we voting for it again?
[53:20]
» If you look school committee showed 7090
already.
[53:23]
» The school committee respond to that if
they want. Um or I can since it's
[53:28]
procedural.
[53:39]
Okay. So, it's the different articles is
what pays for it. Okay. Thank you.
[53:50]
All right. Further question and or
concern with article 11?
[53:58]
No questions appearing. I'll open up the
voting period for article 11. Please
[54:02]
take your remote and signify your vote
on article 11.
[54:07]
Voting period is open on article 11.
[54:15]
And the voting period will begin to
close in three, two,
[54:20]
one.
Article 11 is passed with the majority.
[54:32]
Article 12 is the FY2027
secondary education funding in the
[54:37]
amount of 1,288,622.
[54:42]
It's submitted by the select board and
the finance committee recommends
[54:45]
approval.
>> Make a motion to accept
[54:50]
second.
>> Motion and second brings that into focus
[54:54]
for our consideration.
Any questions on the secondary education
[55:00]
funding?
[55:06]
With no questions appearing, take your
remote and indicate your preference on
[55:11]
article 12. The voting period is open
[clears throat]
[55:23]
and it looks like the votes are almost
all in. So voting will close in 3 2 1.
[55:33]
Article 12 has passed with a majority.
Article 13 is the FY2027
[55:40]
Franklin County Technical School funding
$419,492.
[55:49]
There's some breakout of how that money
is spent. is submitted by the select
[55:53]
board and the finance committee
recommends approval.
[55:56]
» Make a motion to accept article 13.
[56:01]
» Motion in a second brings that into our
focus for our attention. Yes, Jackie.
[56:10]
» I love the tech school. So, any news you
have on the tech school, I'm happy to
[56:14]
hear.
>> Uh Jackie Bden, I am your representative
[56:16]
for the Franklin County Tech School. I
know I've been up here a lot tonight.
[56:20]
Sorry. Uh so we currently have 20
students uh seven are graduates and we
[56:26]
have six incoming nth graders. So the
enrollment for the Irving will be uh 19
[56:33]
students next year. Uh the lottery which
was instituted by the state did have an
[56:39]
impact on our numbers. Um
it used to be prior to that if the
[56:45]
larger communities didn't fill their
quotas um the smaller communities got a
[56:50]
few extra students in but that is no
more. Um
[56:56]
we are we have to stick to our
enrollment quotas. So we will only have
[57:01]
that many students going into Franklin
Tech for the time the near future. Um, I
[57:07]
wanted to let you know that um the vote
for the new construction, they are
[57:13]
proposing a new uh building um over at
Franklin County Tech School um is
[57:20]
October 6. It will be by ballot. It's a
a vote a vote in all 19 member towns at
[57:26]
the same day and it will be a majority
vote.
[57:30]
Uh the presentation for the new building
is available on the Franklin County Tech
[57:35]
website under uh the new building and
there the last meeting was last night at
[57:41]
GCC. They recorded it. So if you're
interested, you can go on to the website
[57:46]
and watch that or you can ask me some
questions. I have some information.
[57:55]
» Thank you, Jackie.
[57:59]
Okay. Article 13. Further questions,
commentary
[58:05]
[clears throat] with none appearing.
Article 13. Please take your remote.
[58:11]
The voting period is now open. Register
your vote on article 13.
[58:21]
And looks like all the votes are in. So
the voting period is closed.
[58:27]
Article 13 has passed for the majority.
[58:33]
Article 14 is the waste the water
department enterprise fund. $118,024
[58:40]
for the water enterprise fund money to
be raised from receipts and revenues.
[58:46]
There's a breakdown of some of that
estimated revenue and proposed
[58:49]
expenditures. It's submitted by the
select board. The finance committee
[58:53]
recommends approval as well as the
capital planning committee.
[58:58]
» Make a motion to accept article 14.
[59:04]
» Okay. Article 14 related to the water
department enterprise fund. Questions?
[59:13]
Yes.
[59:20]
Water is my favorite thing.
>> Hi, Mike Schaefer from Old State Road.
[59:26]
Um, I just wondered where the Millers,
they pay us some money for their water,
[59:31]
right? Where's does that go into this
fund or why where does it go?
[59:39]
» Did you register the content of the
question?
[59:44]
» Uh, I think so.
>> Okay. [laughter]
[1:00:01]
Oh, thank you.
Um, we don't receive any funding from
[1:00:06]
Monu for water.
I believe you're thinking of wastewater
[1:00:11]
and this is the water department budget,
not the wastewater.
[1:00:15]
I'm afraid I'm not understanding the
answer
[1:00:18]
» that I asked about funding from Monagu
that Monagu pays Irving for the water
[1:00:24]
department. We don't provide any
services from the water department for
[1:00:28]
Monagu. They don't pay us for water.
>> Okay, there. Now I heard the answer.
[1:00:32]
Thank you.
>> They do own wastewater. So maybe that's
[1:00:36]
the confusion.
[1:00:41]
Okay, further question
[1:00:46]
with none appearing that article is up
there as article 14 on the screen. Take
[1:00:51]
your remote and indicate your response
on article 14. Is it yes, no,
[1:00:57]
or abstain? That's always an option.
Just be sure you push a button so we
[1:01:02]
know you're all here.
[1:01:08]
Looks like all the votes are in. So the
voting period is closed.
[1:01:13]
And article 14 passes with a majority.
Article 15 is similarly about water, but
[1:01:20]
it's the wastewater department
enterprise fund. 1,160,441
[1:01:28]
for the fiscal year 2027 wastewater
as a breakout of town of Monagu and town
[1:01:35]
of Irving. Portions of that is submitted
by the select board and the finance
[1:01:40]
committee recommends approval as well as
the capital planning committee.
[1:01:50]
This motion and a second puts it in
front of us to talk about wastewater if
[1:01:54]
you were so inclined.
[1:02:02]
We had nobody looking to talk about
wastewater.
[1:02:06]
Take your remote. The voting period is
now open and register your approval,
[1:02:12]
disapproval or contentment or
discontentment with article 15.
[1:02:17]
Yes. No. Maybe abstain.
[1:02:32]
And we're almost there. So voting period
will close in three,
[1:02:38]
two,
one.
[1:02:43]
Article 15 has passed with the majority.
[1:02:49]
Article 16 is the appropriation for
FY2027
[1:02:53]
other postmployment benefits
$400,000 for this OPEB other
[1:02:59]
post-employment benefits fund
submitted by the select board and the
[1:03:04]
finance committee recommends approval.
>> Make a motion to accept article 16.
[1:03:11]
» Thank you very much for the
motion and the second.
[1:03:17]
questions, concerns,
conversation on article 16.
[1:03:28]
With no conversation on article 16
appearing, I'll open up the voting
[1:03:31]
period for article 16. Please register
your opinion on article 16.
[1:03:37]
Voting period is open for article 16.
[1:03:47]
And we got to 59 votes real quick. And
there's 60. So the voting period will
[1:03:52]
close
in three,
[1:03:55]
two, one.
[1:04:00]
And article 16 has passed with a
majority.
[1:04:08]
Article 17 is the continuing annual
appropriations.
[1:04:13]
These are articles that would have been
separate votes taking up all kinds of
[1:04:17]
time at an annual town meeting. We've
grouped them. There's $153,000
[1:04:21]
of them, all listed right here,
is submitted by the select board and the
[1:04:27]
finance committee recommends approval.
>> Make a motion to accept 17.
[1:04:36]
motion in a second puts these grouped
articles in front of us for our
[1:04:40]
consideration. If you have a question on
any one of those line items, I'd gladly
[1:04:44]
entertain it. Yes.
[1:04:52]
[cough]
[1:04:58]
Holly Fitzpatrick, Northfield Road. Um,
I have a question. It's the smallest
[1:05:02]
article, but it's the advertisement
around town. I'm confused by this
[1:05:06]
because when I read the around town, it
says the ads are free.
[1:05:13]
So, what is this 8,000?
Who's who has to pay this 8,000 if the
[1:05:20]
ads are free?
>> So, the town pays for space to print
[1:05:25]
notices and such. We don't print
advertisements like a business would or
[1:05:32]
private commercial gain. So the ads is
not what the town prints. The town
[1:05:36]
prints information. So we pay for space
to print information
[1:05:40]
» even though it says advertise.
>> It's probably not the greatest word for
[1:05:47]
that line. I mean it's not generally
advertisement.
[1:05:50]
» Okay.
>> Content.
[1:05:51]
» I would I understand that. I do think it
needs to be looked at that why are we
[1:05:58]
charging back our town so we're we're
we're
[1:06:02]
charging ourselves for something that we
provide while we're letting
[1:06:07]
other people get the same thing for
free.
[1:06:10]
» We don't operate the around town. It's
an independent bird party. We pay for
[1:06:15]
space in it.
>> Okay. So it doesn't use
[1:06:17]
» the rules and we don't publish it.
>> Okay. So it doesn't use any town
[1:06:20]
resources.
>> The $8,000
[1:06:23]
Okay. But okay.
[1:06:30]
Yep. An interesting nuance.
[1:06:36]
Further question on this grouped
series of items in article 17.
[1:06:45]
With no questions appearing, please take
your remote. The voting period is open
[1:06:49]
for article 17.
register your opinion for article 17
[1:07:02]
and the voting period will come to a
close in three
[1:07:06]
two
one.
[1:07:11]
Article 17 has passed for the majority.
[1:07:16]
» [snorts]
>> We're around to article 18 which is
[1:07:20]
appropriate for FY2027
capital improvements. There's 2 million
[1:07:26]
$59,860
of that
[1:07:30]
and they're listed here as several
different capital improvement projects
[1:07:34]
with their dollar amounts next to them.
It's submitted by the select board, the
[1:07:39]
capital planning committee, and the
finance committee all recommending
[1:07:42]
approval.
>> Make a motion to accept article 18.
[1:07:46]
Second
>> motion and a second brings that in front
[1:07:50]
of us. Do you have questions on any of
these individual items or the grouped
[1:07:55]
article itself?
[1:07:58]
Yes, sir.
[1:08:06]
Mark Bernap from Swamp Road. Um I am
asking about the first uh line item, the
[1:08:12]
IP mill redevelopment. I'm just curious
what that $600,000 is for.
[1:08:20]
IP mills site redevelopment.
$600,000.
[1:08:26]
» So, [clears throat] excuse me.
[1:08:30]
» Go ahead. Yeah.
>> Um, can you guys hear me?
[1:08:34]
» Okay. So, that money is to match the
grant that we received about three or
[1:08:39]
four years ago for mass development. And
the hope is that that will give us
[1:08:43]
enough funding to do some selective
demolition at the site.
[1:08:46]
» Okay. Can it be used for other things or
that's the specific? It has to be used
[1:08:51]
for that probably if it's matching the
other I'm guessing. I see Brian Sh.
[1:08:55]
Okay. Um so it's for some demolition.
Okay. Thank you.
[1:09:02]
It's only the tip of the iceberg down
there.
[1:09:08]
Okay. Further. Yes.
[1:09:16]
Good choice of shoes with all the
traveling.
[1:09:19]
» Yeah, thank you. Sorry for so many
questions. Uh $35,000 for computer
[1:09:23]
replacement. How many computers is that
to be replaced or what kind of hardware
[1:09:28]
is that?
[1:09:32]
» Um that's approximately somewhere
between 12 and 18 devices. uh and we
[1:09:37]
replace uh the the primary computers for
the various groups on a cycle. So that's
[1:09:43]
a continuing replacement cycle.
>> Okay. And is that a standard price?
[1:09:49]
About $2,000 a computer.
>> It depends on what the requirements are
[1:09:54]
for the devices, but for the life cycle
that we use them, we're not purchasing
[1:09:59]
lightweight,
you know, home use machines.
[1:10:03]
» You You're not or you are. Sorry.
>> We are not. We're not. They're business
[1:10:07]
grade devices.
>> Okay.
[1:10:16]
All right. Further question.
[1:10:22]
With no questions popping up, I'm going
to call for the vote on article 18 by
[1:10:26]
having you open up the voting period and
have you take your remote and register
[1:10:31]
your opinion on article 18. Is it going
to be yes, no, or abstain on article 18.
[1:10:46]
And as the numbers climb up, we're
almost to 60. So there they are. So
[1:10:51]
voting period is closing in three, two,
one.
[1:11:00]
Article 18 has passed with a majority.
[1:11:07]
Article 19 appropriate for the fiscal
year
[1:11:11]
2027 wastewater capital projects
$147,200.
[1:11:22]
This is the plant number one
improvements submitted by the select
[1:11:26]
board capital planning committee
recommends approval as well as the
[1:11:30]
finance committee.
Make a motion to accept the article 19
[1:11:37]
» motion and a second brings this up.
Going to do some improvements at the
[1:11:40]
wastewater treatment plant. Yes.
[1:11:52]
» Jackie Boydon, Northfield Road. Although
I've lived here over 35 years, always
[1:11:57]
get confused which treatment plant
you're talking about. So, could you
[1:12:01]
please identify what treatment plant
number one is?
[1:12:06]
» I do too, and I do this regularly. Um,
16 public works, right? Is the is the
[1:12:11]
plant on
>> on this side,
[1:12:13]
» this side of town? Correct.
>> Thank you.
[1:12:18]
» That's the clarification that makes it
crystal clear because even though I was
[1:12:22]
going, which point is it?
Thank you.
[1:12:31]
All right. So, any further questions on
article 19?
[1:12:38]
With no questions appearing, the voting
period is open for article 19. Please
[1:12:43]
take your remote and register your
response, your input, your thoughts on
[1:12:48]
article 19.
[1:12:55]
And yeah, so there you go. Touch that TV
screen. Don't let that thing go dark.
[1:13:00]
[laughter]
We're up to 57 votes. So, get the rest
[1:13:04]
of those votes in. Get your conscience
into that remote
[1:13:09]
and the voting period will close in
three, two,
[1:13:15]
one.
Article 19 has passed with a majority.
[1:13:22]
Everybody likes their waste water to be
system to work be working perfectly.
[1:13:28]
Article 20
appropriate for fiscal year 2027 water
[1:13:33]
capital projects. This is water system
capital stabilization fund $72,160.
[1:13:42]
There a couple things spelled out here
in detail. It's submitted by the select
[1:13:46]
board. The capital planning committee
recommends approval as well as the
[1:13:50]
finance committee.
>> Make a motion to accept article 20.
[1:13:54]
Second
>> the motion and the second brings this in
[1:13:57]
front of us for consideration.
[1:14:01]
Any questions, concerns or conversation?
[1:14:10]
With no questions occurring,
please take your remote. The voting
[1:14:15]
period is open for article 20.
[1:14:20]
Please give us your input on article 20.
[1:14:30]
And the voting period will begin to
close in three, two,
[1:14:36]
one.
Article 20 has passed
[1:14:42]
with a majority.
[1:14:47]
Article 21 is the revolving account
annual spending limits. These used to be
[1:14:52]
separate articles. We've grouped them
up. So, this is something we're becoming
[1:14:56]
accustomed to seeing. Fiscal year 2027
revolving funds, Council of Aging, Board
[1:15:02]
of Library Trustees, Select Board.
Submitted by the Select Board, the
[1:15:06]
finance committee recommends approval.
>> Make a motion to accept article 21.
[1:15:15]
» Any questions on what this does for us?
Yes.
[1:15:43]
So because the um article language is
clear that it starts on July 1, 2026 for
[1:15:49]
Fiscal 27 the um incorrect title header
on the table is uh doesn't override
[1:15:56]
that. So it doesn't need to be amended.
It is incorrect. It should be cut by 27
[1:16:01]
but it doesn't need to be amended
[1:16:10]
» in the opinion of our council.
>> Correct.
[1:16:13]
» We're okay.
>> Okay.
[1:16:15]
» That was after referring to council.
Yes.
[1:16:17]
» All right. So, in the opinion of our
council, we don't need to amend it. It's
[1:16:21]
clear what the article is doing.
Excellent. Good question. Good input.
[1:16:26]
Thank you. Article 21. Further question.
[1:16:33]
» With no questions appearing, take your
remote.
[1:16:36]
» I do have one.
>> Hi.
[1:16:44]
This has stayed on at least.
[laughter]
[1:16:47]
» This This has happened before.
[1:16:53]
» So, everything else has got power, but
the lights just they time out and they
[1:16:57]
shut themselves off.
[1:17:02]
» It's a power saving feature. Thank you,
Irving Elementary School, for having
[1:17:06]
that feature.
[1:17:10]
Um, am I correct in reading this? Oh,
Brenda Silva. Um, $15,000 for electric
[1:17:15]
vehicle charging. Is that correct?
>> That is correct. That's the
[1:17:21]
» I don't think this is this working.
Sorry. Go ahead.
[1:17:24]
» That's okay. That is the max allowed
that can be held in that revolving
[1:17:29]
account. That isn't what's in there or
what we're generating.
[1:17:34]
» Okay. Oh, so it's not what we're
spending to maintain these things. Do we
[1:17:39]
know what kind of revenue we're getting
from them?
[1:17:42]
» Um, we do. I have to look it up, but we
could get it for you. Um, it's the max
[1:17:47]
allowed to be held in there from
receipts or from people paying. It's not
[1:17:50]
how much is or it's just a cap on how
much can go in be in.
[1:17:54]
» So, do we have like expenses
um to maintain these things? I mean, is
[1:18:00]
our revenue is our revenue
and the maintenance on these balancing
[1:18:06]
out? Do we have that?
>> I don't have it right in front of me. We
[1:18:10]
can look it up for you.
>> Okay.
[1:18:12]
» Get that information.
[1:18:15]
» That'd be an interesting thing to know
though.
[1:18:19]
How are electric vehicle charging
stations doing overall?
[1:18:26]
[laughter]
[1:18:34]
Got another question out there. Did
somebody have their hand up? Hi
[1:18:46]
» to the rescue.
>> Thank you, Deb. [laughter]
[1:18:55]
Hi, I'm Debbie Merrill from North Street
and I'm also town accountant and I
[1:18:59]
brought one of my reports with me just
just in case something came up that I
[1:19:04]
didn't expect. But the revolving fund
for the EV stations
[1:19:10]
is
not really making that much money and
[1:19:14]
it's not really costing that much money
either. Um,
[1:19:23]
Okay. The EV charging stations
um in the last fiscal year that ended
[1:19:30]
June 30th, it took in
[1:19:35]
about $16,85
[1:19:39]
and the expenses were no.
Yeah. $1,685
[1:19:48]
and the expenses were $1,431.
[1:19:53]
So,
and the balance ended up being in a
[1:19:57]
deficit because it was previously in a
deficit. So, I recommended that the
[1:20:04]
rates be increased for this fiscal year
and I think they were. So, we'll see how
[1:20:10]
they end up in 26, but it's it's not
anywhere near 15,000 a year.
[1:20:20]
» Thank you, Denver.
>> Yeah, we got some detail. Thank you.
[1:20:31]
» All right, we're uh still talking about
article 21. Any uh further discussion?
[1:20:37]
[clears throat]
[1:20:41]
All right, the voting period for article
21 then is open. Please take your remote
[1:20:46]
and signify your response to article 21.
Will it be yes? Will it be no? Would you
[1:20:52]
abstain? Please express your opinion on
article 21 by voting with your remote.
[1:21:03]
And if everybody votes, then we know it
tallies up and we know that we can close
[1:21:08]
the voting period.
[1:21:12]
So register your input for article 21
[1:21:19]
and I will begin to close it by myself
by saying the voting period will come to
[1:21:23]
a close
in three,
[1:21:28]
two,
one.
[1:21:34]
Article 21 has passed with a majority.
[1:21:40]
Article 22 is appropriate for the
capital stabilization fund. 1,780,000.
[1:21:49]
There's also the amount of 1,ion30,000
for the certified free cash and $750,000
[1:21:57]
from the general stabilization fund. all
coming up to that $1,780,000.
[1:22:04]
It's submitted by the select board and
the finance committee recommends
[1:22:07]
approval as well as that hardworking
capital planning committee.
[1:22:11]
» Make a motion to accept.
[1:22:17]
» This puts it in front of us for any
questions you may have.
[1:22:24]
And I don't see any questions on this.
So the voting period is open on article
[1:22:29]
22. Please take your remote and signify
your response to article 22. Will it be
[1:22:36]
yes? Will it be no? Will it be maybe? So
article 22.
[1:22:45]
So on article 22, it takes a twothirds
majority vote to pass. That algorithm is
[1:22:51]
already in there. So, be sure you get
your vote in.
[1:22:55]
And the voting period will come to a
close in three, two,
[1:23:02]
one.
[1:23:05]
And the algorithm says it passed. We
have met the requirement for twothirds
[1:23:11]
majority.
[1:23:21]
All right, we're down to article 23
appropriate for the water system capital
[1:23:26]
stabilization fund. There's $100,000 of
the water system capital stabilization
[1:23:32]
fund submitted by the select board, the
finance committee, and the capital
[1:23:36]
planning committee.
>> Make a motion to accept article 23.
[1:23:42]
» There's that motion and second, and I
thank you very much.
[1:23:47]
Putting money away for stabilization is
always a good idea.
[1:23:52]
Is there a conversation or question or
concern?
[1:23:58]
I don't see any questions. So, let's
open up the voting period for article
[1:24:02]
23.
Please vote now on article 23.
[1:24:08]
Express your opinion on article 23
by taking a revote
[1:24:14]
and offering up your opinion.
[1:24:20]
And the voting period will begin to
close
[1:24:25]
in three,
two,
[1:24:30]
one.
[1:24:33]
Article 23 has passed for the majority.
[1:24:39]
Article 24 is appropriate for the
wastewater system capital stabilization
[1:24:44]
fund. We're looking for $153,348
[1:24:50]
submitted by the select board, the ever
hardworking finance committee as well as
[1:24:54]
that capital planning committee.
[1:25:00]
» I make a motion to
[1:25:03]
second
>> motion and a second. Thank you very
[1:25:06]
much.
[1:25:12]
I invite any questions.
No questions appearing. Take your
[1:25:18]
remote. The voting period is now open
for article 24.
[1:25:24]
Article 24. Please [snorts] express your
input on article 24. Will this be yes,
[1:25:30]
no, maybe, abstain?
Please give us your input on article 24
[1:25:41]
and the voting period will begin to
close
[1:25:47]
in three
2
[1:25:52]
one.
Article 24 has passed with a majority.
[1:26:01]
Article 25 is the FY2027 appropriation
for the opioid settlement fund use
[1:26:08]
$20,000
from the opioid settlement stabilization
[1:26:14]
fund submitted by the select board and
the finance committee recommends
[1:26:18]
approval.
>> Make a motion to accept article 25 as
[1:26:22]
printed.
[1:26:25]
» Okay. Are there any questions on this
baby?
[1:26:39]
All right, with no questions uh popping
up, article 25, please take your remote.
[1:26:45]
The voting period is open for article
25. Please signify your preference on
[1:26:50]
article 25. [clears throat]
[1:27:02]
That's right. Provide your preference on
article 25. I believe some people have
[1:27:06]
left the room. So that may be all the
votes now. I'll say it anyways. The
[1:27:11]
voting period is closing in three,
two,
[1:27:17]
one.
[1:27:20]
Article 25 has passed with the majority.
[1:27:26]
Article 26, appropriation for the
community access television service has
[1:27:32]
$25,000 in there. It's broken out with a
couple of line items.
[1:27:38]
It's submitted by the select board and
the finance committee recommends
[1:27:41]
approval. Anybody
[1:27:48]
have any question, concern, comment or
conversation
[1:27:53]
on the PEG access cable review account
[1:28:03]
with no questions popping up. I'm going
to call the voting period for article 26
[1:28:08]
to be open. Please take your remote and
signify your response to article 26.
[1:28:14]
Give us your input on article 26.
Yes. No,
[1:28:21]
maybe. Abstain.
Your input for article 26 is invited.
[1:28:29]
Your vote.
[1:28:36]
And the voting period is going to close
in three,
[1:28:41]
two,
one.
[1:28:45]
Article 26 is passed with a majority.
[1:28:50]
We're all the way around to article 27.
It's the authorization to enter into a
[1:28:54]
lease to own agreement for highway
department heavy equipment. Yes, that's
[1:29:00]
right, folks. a five-year a five-w
wheeled excavator
[1:29:05]
for $49,420
I believe each year or something like
[1:29:09]
that. It's submitted by the select board
and the capital planning committee and
[1:29:13]
finance committee recommend approval.
>> Make motion to accept article 27 is
[1:29:17]
present. Second
[1:29:22]
» questions on this 5-year purchasing
agreement for this excavator.
[1:29:35]
With no questions in the room, take your
remote. The voting period is open for
[1:29:40]
article 27. Please signify your input.
[1:29:48]
Give us your input on article 27, which
needs a twothirds majority to pass, but
[1:29:54]
the computer's algorithm has already
slated it in to figure it out. So, give
[1:30:00]
us your input
and the voting period will begin to
[1:30:05]
close.
>> Yeah.
[1:30:12]
» Oh, majority.
[1:30:17]
Well, I didn't see it in.
>> All right, the voting period is closing
[1:30:22]
in three, two, one.
[1:30:32]
» And that meets the requirement of 2/3.
Even though we got a little discussion
[1:30:36]
up front,
but it meets the requirement anyways, so
[1:30:41]
it doesn't matter.
And that's cool.
[1:30:45]
» On the next one, too. Right.
>> Article 28, authorization to enter into
[1:30:50]
a multi-year agreement for assessors
revaluation services.
[1:30:55]
» This is a five-year
commencing in FY2026
[1:31:03]
for professional appraisal services
is submitted by the board of assessors
[1:31:08]
and finance committee recommends
approving.
[1:31:12]
accept article 28 is printed. Second
>> motion and a second.
[1:31:27]
Is that correct with FY2026 as the
words?
[1:31:41]
Jackie Bdon, Northfield Road on the
board of assessors. I just question
[1:31:45]
because it said 26, but the bid is out
now. So, they'll be signing a contract
[1:31:49]
in fiscal year 26. So, even though it's
for a fiscal year 27 evaluation,
[1:31:55]
it's still correct.
>> So, it's correct as written.
[1:32:00]
» It's correct. Yes.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[1:32:09]
All right. So, with that cleared up, are
there further questions on this
[1:32:12]
five-year agreement for professional
appraising services?
[1:32:19]
No questions appearing. The voting
period is open on article 28. Please
[1:32:24]
take your remote and indicate your input
for article 28.
[1:32:29]
Please vote your conscience or opinion
on article 28.
[1:32:36]
And that's the number of people we still
have voting appearing there. So the
[1:32:39]
voting period is oh we have still have
57. Okay. Voting period is closed
[1:32:44]
because 57 voters are in.
And article 28 has passed with a
[1:32:51]
majority.
[1:32:55]
Article 29 is the borrowing
authorization for the center cemetery
[1:33:00]
expansion project. It's $1,100,000
to expand that center cemetery
[1:33:07]
authorizing the treasurer to borrow set
amount
[1:33:11]
submitted by the select board. The
finance committee recommends approval as
[1:33:15]
well as the capital planning committee.
>> Make the motion 29 as printed.
[1:33:22]
» And as noted, this does require
twothirds majority. It is borrowing.
[1:33:28]
Yes.
[1:33:32]
» [snorts]
[1:33:39]
» Hi. Um, Mackenzie Bailey Mountain Road.
I have two questions. Um, one, are we
[1:33:44]
required to have expand the cemetery?
Are we required to have a certain number
[1:33:49]
of plots available for town for for for
use by whomever? And two, has the um
[1:33:55]
property owner who will now abut said
cemetery been informed
[1:34:01]
that this is going to be happening?
>> Would someone from the cemetery
[1:34:06]
commission like to speak to that?
>> Please. Thank you.
[1:34:12]
» You know, I'm dying to go there.
[1:34:17]
[laughter]
>> Uh Laura Bazio, Pleasant Street. Um, so
[1:34:21]
we are required to have a cemetery. Um,
so that's one of the questions. That
[1:34:26]
deed for that parcel that's being um
expanded was conveyed with a deed
[1:34:31]
restriction that requires that it be for
the cemetery. So it's the the budding
[1:34:37]
land owner should have known or um
already. So I I mean it's the cemetery.
[1:34:43]
It's deed for that only. Um I'm not
sure, you know, if I can offer anything
[1:34:48]
else other than um there's not I think
maybe if Glenn is here. Uh there's only
[1:34:53]
like 10 lots left. Uh seven seven lots
left. Um so you know this expansion is
[1:35:00]
is definitely necessary as we consider
planning for the future of the town and
[1:35:04]
the future of residents here who may
want to be buried. Um
[1:35:11]
» any other questions?
Sure. Come on up.
[1:35:18]
» Or Okay. Um I was just curious if you
could explain a little bit about the
[1:35:23]
expansion plan. It's an awful lot of
money. What is happening within a
[1:35:29]
million dollars? What are the plans for
that sort of
[1:35:33]
» um please do this is Holly. She's also
on the commission. Um and she's braver
[1:35:37]
than I am standing in front of an
audience. So, um, what's happening is,
[1:35:41]
um, the we've already done some design
plans. Originally, we were looking at
[1:35:46]
potentially doing it in phases. Uh, but
the way that the design looks, it it's
[1:35:52]
not feasible to try to phase the project
out. It is for, correct me if I'm wrong,
[1:35:56]
a hundred additional lots with
columbarium also, which colarium and
[1:36:01]
green burial. Uh, columbarium is where
you would put ashes as opposed to, you
[1:36:05]
know, a grave site. Um so you know we
have we have the lot we're in the
[1:36:10]
process of doing um additional sort of
uh planning but the the initial part has
[1:36:15]
already been done
you just so that everybody understands
[1:36:21]
um I do encourage you to read the
narrative in the budget book because we
[1:36:25]
did explain quite a bit of it um part of
the cost so it's across the street from
[1:36:32]
the current one we did look at other
locations in town. This was already
[1:36:41]
owned by the town because it was deed
previously and anything else we were
[1:36:45]
going to look at was going to require
huge infrastructure changes including
[1:36:51]
like maybe a bridge or different things
like that. So there will be one of the
[1:36:56]
things that will be happening is we do
we will be adding a roadway that will go
[1:37:03]
through the other one because one of the
requirements you can't just have a
[1:37:08]
little straight shot in. You have to be
able to have all the vehicles be able to
[1:37:13]
get around including any horses any
emergency vehicles and all that type of
[1:37:17]
stuff. So we are trying to plan for
the future but not only just with
[1:37:24]
traditional burials but also for meeting
the needs of non-traditional
[1:37:30]
um so there'll be the there'll be
colarium of some it might be it's going
[1:37:35]
to be some kind of a niches that hasn't
been decided yet and then there'll be
[1:37:39]
green burial incorporated as well as the
newer way that the industry is
[1:37:49]
Nice explanations. Thank you very much.
I know more about the project than I did
[1:37:54]
when I came here tonight.
[1:38:00]
I know a lot of good people that are in
that ground up there.
[1:38:04]
[snorts]
[1:38:06]
All right. So, article 28 on borrowing
for cemetery expansion. Further
[1:38:11]
questions
>> 29. Yes. Article 29. Yes.
[1:38:28]
» Will the rate of the lot go up to buy a
lot?
[1:38:33]
» Hi, Holly Fitzpatrick. Yes, it will no
longer be a $25.
[1:38:39]
Um, it will be closer to market. I hate
to use market rate, but that's really
[1:38:44]
what it is. Irving has traditionally
under
[1:38:49]
» charged for it. Um, and we did some work
with the of reaching out to the various
[1:38:57]
funeral homes etc. and talked about that
as well. And in our report, we do say
[1:39:02]
that with the when the new one is ready,
we will be changing it. We also changed
[1:39:06]
the bylaws like a over a year ago to
um make it an the current one is Irving
[1:39:15]
residents only other than if it's
somebody who like was an Irving resident
[1:39:21]
that moved away that the commission can
okay it but we were trying to make it
[1:39:25]
last as long as possible and Glenn
McCory thank you Glenn and his people
[1:39:30]
were able to come up with a little bit
more land that we could use to um expand
[1:39:37]
it. So, we will be charging more, but we
didn't feel like we could do that yet.
[1:39:42]
Um and the other funeral homes um
thanked us for that was one of their
[1:39:47]
questions. Are you going to become more
the way that all the other towns around
[1:39:55]
us are?
[1:40:02]
» Is there another question?
[1:40:08]
Thank you.
>> Okay. Article 29.
[1:40:13]
I'm going to call for the vote by saying
the voting period is now open. Please
[1:40:18]
take your remote and indicate your
approval, disapproval, or abstination
[1:40:25]
on article 29.
The voting period is open. Please
[1:40:30]
register your vote on article 29.
[clears throat]
[1:40:44]
And we're going to call for the vote to
close in
[1:40:48]
three,
two,
[1:40:52]
one.
[1:40:56]
So 44 to 11
[1:41:02]
» passed. Yep.
[1:41:12]
Article 30 is a borrowing authorization
for the Irving Center Wastewater Plant
[1:41:17]
Improvement Project. We're looking for
$1 million
[1:41:21]
for upgrading and improving secondary
clarifiers at the Irving POTW number
[1:41:27]
two. So Irving Center is number two.
It's to borrow set amount according to
[1:41:33]
the Massachusetts General Laws submitted
by select board finance committee
[1:41:37]
recommends approval as well as the
capital planning committee.
[1:41:41]
» Make an article make a motion to accept
article 30 as printed.
[1:41:49]
Okay. I'm sure somebody has some input
or question. Yes.
[1:42:01]
It's a million dollar bond. It's a
treatment plant that we currently only
[1:42:06]
pay a dollar a year for because Irving
Industries runs it. So, can you explain
[1:42:11]
a little bit about what our costs are
going to be to upgrade this plant that I
[1:42:16]
know services Irving center, but it's a
million dollars.
[1:42:23]
» So, I'll let the chief operator explain
what is being done because that is
[1:42:30]
outside of my skill set. Uh, so you're
welcome beat and speak to that for us,
[1:42:34]
please. uh in terms of the costs uh you
know that's something that we will speak
[1:42:41]
with Irving Industries about um but we
have to start somewhere. So we have to
[1:42:46]
start with with a bond and get that and
then uh as part of that we'll be
[1:42:50]
discussing with them around the
how we we share those costs.
[1:42:56]
» Please.
>> Um my name is Pete Sanders. I'm the
[1:42:59]
water wastewater superintendent for the
town of Irving. Um, basically what the
[1:43:04]
the barn money is for the secondary
clarifiers over the years have become
[1:43:10]
dilapitated. They've been patched
in various ways to keep them running.
[1:43:16]
Um, we do need to fix these because
without them the plant will not run
[1:43:21]
properly. We wouldn't be able to process
the waste from Irving Center. Um, and we
[1:43:27]
won't make our permitting requirements.
So, it's imperative that we fix them.
[1:43:37]
» So, we are like fabricated gates and
they direct the water flow.
[1:43:42]
» Uh, yeah. The design of the tanks, the
waste water comes in, flows around.
[1:43:46]
There's some baffles that are gone,
rotted away. Part of the I-beam
[1:43:50]
structures that support the motors in
the center is rotted right through to
[1:43:55]
nothing. You can actually stick your
fingers through it. It's It's bad. Okay,
[1:43:59]
those additional words just told me what
you're talking about. Thank you.
[1:44:03]
» So, I have a followup. How did they get
that bad without us knowing that?
[1:44:11]
Because it seems to me that preventative
maintenance earlier on would not be
[1:44:16]
costing us as much as it is now.
>> Probably could have been a better job
[1:44:21]
under preventive maintenance. Um, since
I've been with the town 22 years, it's
[1:44:27]
the first time I've seen them drained.
And upon draining, the wastewater
[1:44:31]
environment is very corrosive. So, it
has eaten the aluminum outer ring. Um,
[1:44:38]
anything above that tank, the water with
the moisture, it's very corrosive. Like
[1:44:42]
I said, it it ate the I beams. Um, so
it's it's in very need of repair.
[1:44:52]
My other follow will be when we have
this discussion with Industries about
[1:44:56]
the wastewater treatment plant we're
going to put into place where we're not
[1:45:01]
caught this unaware
down the line with the lack of
[1:45:07]
» so yeah so we we've been [clears throat]
discussing that with the superintendent
[1:45:12]
and the board and as we've looked at
capital planning etc. Uh we had the what
[1:45:19]
we call the AMP plan. It was assessment
of all of our assets in wastewater
[1:45:23]
including POTW number two um done by an
engineering firm for us a couple years
[1:45:28]
ago. It was a grant for that and we did
that work. So that helped us as well to
[1:45:32]
identify what is needed everywhere and
to start you know um focusing on it in a
[1:45:37]
more structured way and we've also spoke
with the superintendent about
[1:45:41]
collaborating on ensuring that we are
staying on top of it as well because at
[1:45:45]
the end of the day it's our permit it's
our plan. So ensuring that we're making
[1:45:49]
sure that maintenance and um assessments
and all of those sort of things are
[1:45:54]
happening on a timely fashion and and
that we stay on top of those and then
[1:45:58]
ultimately the board has the appropriate
conversations with Irving Industries
[1:46:02]
about the operation and the ongoing
costs
[1:46:12]
question.
>> Yes, you may.
[1:46:16]
I guess I'll use your microphone. It's
right here. It's handy.
[1:46:19]
» Probably the answer. So,
>> yeah, he's the answer guy.
[1:46:22]
» Maybe not for this one. I don't know. Uh
Dick Newton, River Road. Um
[1:46:27]
my question has to do with
what happens if I paper just folds up?
[1:46:38]
What's going to happen to that treatment
plant? Uh do we do we get to own it? Do
[1:46:43]
we have to pay some something for it
because of whatever? You know, I mean,
[1:46:49]
» I I you know, again, a million dollars
is a lot of money to put in to fix up
[1:46:53]
something they screwed up, let's say,
and I don't want to see us have to do
[1:46:58]
this again down the road. You know, I
don't know what their financial
[1:47:01]
statement is. I don't know where they
are, but I can tell you they're a shadow
[1:47:04]
of their former self when I used to work
there, and I'm concerned that they're
[1:47:08]
going to survive any long-term stuff.
>> You're right. Go ahead.
[1:47:15]
» Uh the the plant, the property, the
permit, the town owns all of that. We
[1:47:20]
own it. Um if something happened to
Urban Industries,
[1:47:26]
um the next step would be we've done
some planning with our engineering
[1:47:31]
firms. We got a few different estimate
costs. Basically, we're going to have to
[1:47:34]
shrink down that tank because we're
going to lose the million plus gallons a
[1:47:39]
day flow going in there. So, you'd have
to reduce the tank. Probably run it more
[1:47:44]
like we do with POTW number one on this
side of town. Um, so less flow, smaller
[1:47:51]
tanks to make everything work.
So effective effectively I'll just add
[1:47:59]
it's basically we have to rebuild it to
fit the scale that we would need if that
[1:48:04]
um business wasn't operating and flowing
the amount of material into that plant.
[1:48:09]
So should that happen, we did a study.
It is aged in terms of what those costs
[1:48:14]
are, but it gave us some direction. Uh
and it's something that capital
[1:48:18]
discussed especially this year about
looking forward ensuring that we are
[1:48:23]
continuing to put some money away in
that capital stabilization fund to be
[1:48:27]
prepared in case something like that
happens because it will be very
[1:48:31]
expensive. it will be over a million
dollars to do
[1:48:35]
» something of that sort and we haven't
necessarily been adding to that. So, we
[1:48:40]
want to be thoughtful about adding to
those reserves. Um, so we have a backup
[1:48:45]
plan.
>> Is your question still in play?
[1:48:49]
» I I think it is. You know, it's great.
Okay, you got to make modifications. You
[1:48:53]
got less fluent coming in, whatever.
Fine. But who's going to own it if they
[1:48:59]
go away?
>> So,
[1:49:00]
» how are we going to get our hands up?
>> No, we don't. So we do. Yeah,
[1:49:03]
» we do own it.
>> We own it now.
[1:49:06]
Okay.
>> Yeah, I think you might have missed it
[1:49:07]
when Pete started. We own everything.
The assets, the the land, the facility,
[1:49:13]
the permit, the liability, the
responsibility. It is our facility.
[1:49:18]
» We have an agreement that Irving
Industries operates it for a dollar a
[1:49:21]
year and indemnifies us and other things
that that are part of that. So they
[1:49:26]
effectively are just the operators. They
do not own it.
[1:49:30]
Is that keep your hand still in the air?
Dan, go ahead.
[1:49:33]
» Thank you. Um, we working. Okay.
>> No.
[1:49:38]
» Green light. There we go. Okay. Um, I I
just wanted to say that over the many
[1:49:44]
years, town and Irving Industries or
Ersico or Irving Paper, whatever they've
[1:49:49]
morphed into, we've had a great
financial relationship with them over
[1:49:52]
the years. And tonight, I just want to
be clear. I've heard the words lack of
[1:49:58]
maintenance. I've heard they screwed up.
And it's my understanding that those
[1:50:03]
clarifiers are the original ones have
been there for about 50 years. Is that
[1:50:06]
correct?
>> Yes, they are.
[1:50:09]
» Okay. I just wanted to clarify I I
clarify, no pun intended, uh that the
[1:50:14]
clarifiers are 50 years old and I don't
believe that they're just rotting away
[1:50:18]
because of a lack of maintenance or
overlooking it or or uh you know, they
[1:50:24]
screwed up. I I think they've maintained
them reasonably well and and whether
[1:50:28]
it's Pete or someone before him, they've
always worked with Irving Paper uh to to
[1:50:34]
try to make sure that everything is done
properly up there.
[1:50:38]
[snorts]
[1:50:42]
Okay. So,
article 30. Any further question and or
[1:50:48]
discussion?
[1:50:53]
All right. Right. I don't see any
questions popping up, so please take
[1:50:56]
your remote. The voting period is now
open for article 30.
[1:51:01]
Please give us your input on article 30.
The voting period is open.
[1:51:19]
And that's darn near the number of
people that are here that are voting. So
[1:51:22]
yes, that is the number. So the voting
period is closing in three, two,
[1:51:29]
one.
Article 30 has passed for the majority
[1:51:35]
and meets the requirements of the
twothirds.
[1:51:40]
Article 31,
it's a museum committee bylaw.
[1:51:48]
Lots of nice moving parts to it.
[1:51:58]
It's going to set up a museum committee
[1:52:03]
is submitted by the select board and no
submitted. Yeah, submitted by the select
[1:52:07]
board and the finance committee
recommends approval.
[1:52:17]
Justice like on that one.
>> I'm lost.
[1:52:23]
That was article 30.
Article 31. Yeah. Article 31. Museum
[1:52:29]
committee
[1:52:33]
submitted by the select board. Yes.
Okay. Thank you.
[1:52:36]
» Make a motion to accept article 31 as
printed.
[1:52:39]
» Second.
[1:52:43]
» All right. Any question about this
museum committee or the uh setup of a
[1:52:48]
five member board?
[1:52:58]
» Yes.
[1:53:02]
[snorts and sighs]
[1:53:09]
» Holly Fitzpatrick um Northfield Road. I
think my question my only question is
[1:53:15]
about the the five member board being
that we
[1:53:21]
it's really hard to get members for
boards and I'm on ZBA and I'm on
[1:53:27]
cemetery and right now you know we're
going to be looking for another cemetery
[1:53:31]
person and we had to beat the bushes for
ZBA
[1:53:36]
and most of the most of the commissions
and the boards are not filled.
[1:53:42]
So I really question the concept of a
board of five
[1:53:48]
and would urge a change to the board of
three.
[1:53:54]
That's all.
[1:54:02]
Is there a member of the committee that
would like to speak to that
[1:54:05]
recommendation? I know that's a
discussion that we've had. Please come
[1:54:08]
up. Thank you. um with the board about
the makeup and and the recommendations.
[1:54:17]
» Thank you.
[1:54:22]
I'm Betty Lou Mallet and I am the
secretary on the museum committee and we
[1:54:27]
already have the committee full of five.
[1:54:32]
» Already have a committee.
[1:54:39]
So, we're not inclined to reduce the
membership. [laughter]
[1:54:44]
Okay. Well, that takes care of that
question. Pretty good.
[1:54:48]
[snorts] All right. Then, article 31.
Are there further questions, comments,
[1:54:52]
or concerns?
[1:54:57]
With no questions appearing, please take
your remote. The voting period for
[1:55:01]
article 31 is open. Please signify your
input on article 31.
[1:55:20]
And the voting period will begin to
close
[1:55:24]
in three,
two,
[1:55:28]
one.
[1:55:32]
Article 31 is passed with a majority.
We're off to Article 32.
[1:55:39]
It's the adoption of a Massachusetts
general law for the additional real
[1:55:44]
estate exemption for taxpayers who are
granted exemptions on their doiciles.
[1:55:50]
There are several of these right in a
row. Each one does something specific.
[1:55:56]
Each one supports the other one, but
this is the first of those articles
[1:56:02]
is submitted by the select board and the
finance committee recommends approval.
[1:56:06]
» Make a motion to accept article 32.
>> Second.
[1:56:11]
[snorts]
>> So these are you pay your taxes, you
[1:56:14]
submit for an abatement
and
[1:56:19]
this is a seniors get some relief,
veterans get some relief, etc. This is a
[1:56:25]
abatement program.
>> Uh we have our new principal assessor
[1:56:30]
Diane Summer. I'm sure she'd love to
speak on it.
[1:56:33]
» Hi Diane.
[laughter]
[1:56:37]
As a former assessor, I thank you for
jumping in and being one.
[1:56:42]
» My name is Diane Summerl and I am a
non-resident of Irving, but I live in
[1:56:45]
Turner's Falls. This ex this is not an
abatement. This is an exemption and it
[1:56:51]
is for seniors
uh blind anybody that can that is
[1:56:57]
eligible for an exemption. Exemption
amounts have not changed since the 80s
[1:57:03]
or earlier. And so this clause is just
to increase the exemptions to kind of
[1:57:09]
bring them up to date. And this 5C and a
half is for everybody. It's not for a
[1:57:14]
particular exemption. It's for any
exemption.
[1:57:20]
Any other questions?
[1:57:24]
» Okay.
[1:57:27]
All right. [snorts] So, article 32 is
the first of these three.
[1:57:33]
So, is there a question on article 32?
[1:57:39]
With no question appearing, I'm going to
call for the vote on article 32 by
[1:57:43]
opening up the voting period. Please
take your remote and signify whether
[1:57:48]
you'd like these exemptions to be
updated per the article article 32.
[1:57:55]
Please give us your input on article 32.
The voting period is open.
[1:58:07]
Looks like we're just about all the
votes are in. So the voting period will
[1:58:11]
close in three, two,
one.
[1:58:18]
Article 32 is passed with a majority.
Article 33 is the adoption of another
[1:58:25]
Massachusetts general law related to
exemptions. Again, a very specific look
[1:58:31]
at exemptions submitted by the select
board and the finance committee
[1:58:36]
recommends approval.
I'll make a motion to accept article 33.
[1:58:44]
» Article 33 is in front of us. It's just
like the other one. There are no
[1:58:49]
questions, I believe.
So, I'm going to open up the voting
[1:58:52]
period for article 33. Please signify
your input on article 33.
[1:59:14]
and I believe that's probably all the
people that are voting right now. So,
[1:59:18]
the voting period is going to close in
three, two,
[1:59:23]
one.
Article 33 is passed with a majority.
[1:59:28]
Article 34, guess what? It's another
exemption clause meeting another section
[1:59:34]
of the Massachusetts General Laws. The
third one's just like the other ones.
[1:59:41]
Are there any questions?
Zero questions.
[1:59:49]
[laughter]
>> Motion to accept article 34.
[1:59:53]
» Thank you. We got to go to the
[1:59:59]
» Thank you very much.
Are there any questions?
[2:00:03]
No questions. Okay. Thank you. Uh the
voting period is open for article 34.
[2:00:07]
Please give us your input on article 34.
[snorts]
[2:00:24]
And that's probably the full count on
article 34. Closing in three, two, one.
[2:00:31]
Article 34 passes with the majority.
[2:00:40]
Hey, just by uh clean sweep bulky waste
recycling day is Saturday, May 16th, 9
[2:00:48]
to noon. The Irving Highway Garage.
Clean sweep bulky waste recycling day.
[2:00:55]
Saturday, May 16th, 9 to noon.
[2:01:02]
May 16th.
Oh, yeah. This coming Saturday,
[2:01:11]
Irving Memorial Day, Monday, May 25th,
10:00 a.m. ceremony,
[2:01:18]
Irving Center at fire station number
one, 10:00 a.m. Monday, May 25th, Irving
[2:01:26]
Center Fire Station, 10:00 a.m. Things
to know about, things to be there for.
[2:01:34]
bulky waste recycling this Saturday, but
be there to honor the veterans and those
[2:01:40]
who are serving on Monday, May 25th.
[2:01:46]
» I would accept a motion to dissolve. If
someone wants to make it
[2:01:51]
» motion to dissolve, second. All those in
favor of dissolving this meeting, please
[2:01:55]
signify by
>> by voice by saying I.
[2:02:00]
» I.
>> All those opposed say no. Yeah. Yeah.
[2:02:04]
Thank you all very much. Don't forget to
turn in your remote on the way out the
[2:02:10]
door.
>> Don't forget to turn in your remote on
[2:02:15]
the way out the door.
>> Thank you very much. Oh. Oh.