Agenda
[0:19]
Moment of Reflection
[0:36]
Singing of ‘O Canada’
[2:14]
Land Acknowledgement Statement
[2:44]
Recording of Attendance
[2:48]
County Warden’s Welcome and Remarks
[6:01]
Disclosure of Pecuniary Interest
[6:31]
Adoption of Regular Meeting Minutes
[6:51]
Western Ontario Warden's Caucus (WOWC)
[22:01]
Tourism Windsor-Essex Pelee Island (TWEPI) and Invest Windsor Essex (IWE)
[50:01]
Correspondence
[56:37]
Essex Region Conservation Authority (ERCA)
[50:19]
Sustainable Ontario Public Library Funding
[51:39]
Windsor Essex Community Housing Corporation (WECHC)
[1:02:30]
Resolutions
[1:02:21]
Consent Agenda
[1:03:32]
Regional Planning Framework for Artificial Intelligence (AI) and High-Density Data Centres
[1:27:27]
Council Procedure By-law and Governance Review
[1:55:02]
Appointment of a Closed Meeting Investigator
[2:00:23]
Servicing, Encroachment, and Easement Agreement with Jack’s Organics and Southern Aqua
[2:03:10]
Financial Projected Results of Operations 2026
[2:06:17]
Meals on Wheels Proposal Submission
[2:08:52]
Unfinished Business
[2:10:30]
New Business
[2:08:49]
Public Reporting of Closed Meeting
[2:11:31]
Adoption of By-Laws
[2:13:08]
Notice of Motion
[45:50]
Adjournment
Transcript
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Good evening everybody it is now
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6:00 p.m.
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I now call the september second
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2026
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2026 regular meeting of county
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council
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council to order.
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we invite you to join council and
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and administration as we take this
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this time to observe a moment of
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reflection and that will lead
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into the playing of our national
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anthem.
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[playing of 'o canada']
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we acknowledge the land on which
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the county of essex is located
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the county of essex is located
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is the traditional territory of
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is the traditional territory of
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the three fires confederacy of
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the three fires confederacy of
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first nations, comprised of the
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first nations, comprised of the
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ojibway, odawa and potawatomie
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ojibway, odawa and potawatomie
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peoples.
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we specifically recognize caldwell first nation and other
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caldwell first nation and other
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first nations which have
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first nations which have provided significant historical
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provided significant historical
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and contemporary contributions
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and contemporary contributions
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to this region.
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to this region.
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we also value the contributions
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of all original peoples of
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of all original peoples of turtle island, who have been
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turtle island, who have been living and working on this land
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living and working on this land
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from time immemorial.
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from time immemorial.all members
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of county council are present
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this evening.
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good evening everybody, nice to
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see
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see you.
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seems like it's been a long time
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doesn't it?
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I would like to begin by
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expressing my condolences to the
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family, friends and colleagues
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of
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of sun parlour whom employee diane
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diane who passed away earlier
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this week.
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flags have been lowered in her
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honour at the county of essex
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buildings, diane was a food service
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service worker known for
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speaking her mind and generously
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sharing her considerable
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culinary talents.
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she was devoted to her family
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and happiest spending time with
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her
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her grandchildren, and she will
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be
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be deeply missed by her loved
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ones and her colleagues at sun
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parlour home.
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our thoughts are with everybody
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who knew her.
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let's pause for a moment of
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silence.
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thank you.
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turning to other matters, we are
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less
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less than two weeks away from
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the third annual outdoor
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accessibility fest for all, that
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is organized by the essex county
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accessibility advisory
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committee.
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it is free and open to the
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public, and the special event is
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designed to promote inclusion and
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and accessibility for people of all
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all ages and abilities through
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activities, demonstrations,
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products, services and
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information.
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the fest for all takes place
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friday september 11th from
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10:00 a.m. Until 2:00 p.m. At the
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the communications community
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centre, the first two events
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were fantastic.
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I had such a good time.
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what a great venue.
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just -- just a great community,
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regional community event.
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we look forward to welcoming everybody
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everybody back this year.
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we are also two weeks away from
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the
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the september 16th switch to a
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new
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new dispatching system for essex
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windsor ems.
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medical priority dispatch system
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or
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or mpds is designed with one
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clear purpose, and that is to
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ensure people experiencing life
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threatening emergency receive
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help as quickly as possible.
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mpd as is a software based
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system used by ambulance cloud
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communications officers, to
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triage, 911 calls based on the
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severity of a patient's medical
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condition.
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condition.
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it helps them determine urgency
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of
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of each situation so ambulances
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can be sent where they are
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needed most, when they are
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needed most.
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as a result people with non-life
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threatening conditions may sometimes
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sometimes wait a little bit longer
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longer for an ambulance,
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particularly when paramedic
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resources are stretched.
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ministry of health has
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successfully implemented this
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system in several municipalities
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across ontario, it is backed by
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decades of research and evidence
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and helps ambulance
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communications officers make
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more informed decisions.
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so if you want to know more
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about this system, check things
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out at the county of
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essex.ca/sevenmac.
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are there any disclosures of
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pecuniary interests amongst council
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council members this evening?
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councillors rogers?
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>> thank you madam warden,
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through you, item 12.6.
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>> onto adoption of regular meeting
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meeting minutes and before you
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are the minutes of the regular
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council meeting of august 5th,
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2026, seeing none?
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the recommendations of the
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minutes of the august fifth, 2026 regular
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2026 regular meeting be adopted
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as presented.
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I'm looking for a mover and a
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seconder?
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councillor deyong, councillor akpata?
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councillor deyong, councillor akpata?
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any discussion?
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all in favour by show of hands?
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thank you.
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I thought that was your hand of
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councillor akpata I guess you
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were just scratching your ear.
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there are two delegations this
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evening, welcome, first up the
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western ontario wardens caucus
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executive director, kate
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burns-gallagher, she is here to
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provide a presentation regarding
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the 2026-2027 strategic
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priorities.
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welcome kate, nice to see you!
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>> wonderful thank you warden,
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if it's
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if it's okay I will stand so I
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can see everybody better.
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thank you warden, through you
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to county council it's a pleasure
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pleasure to be here again on my
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annual
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annual summer tour as we call it,
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it, where we go and visit all of
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our 15 counties to give an update on
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update on all the things we have
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been
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been up to in the past year, the
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successes we had and priorities
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we focused on.
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next slide.
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just a quick overview, lots of
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things have happened, we are the
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15
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15 counties in western ontario,
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spanning from simcoe county all
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the way down here in
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essex county, next slide that would
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would be great.
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we had covered over 300
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communities, 117 municipalities
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and
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and we are well over 1.6 million
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residents.
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and the key part of our
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organization and why we gather
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is
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is we are 90% rural, 90% rural,
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that's where a lot of the
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advocacy comes from is
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advocating for our rural
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communities.
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next slide.
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what do we do?
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we work collectively, at our
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core we work to advance key strategic
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strategic priorities for the 15
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counties, looking at that map
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you may think how could there possibly
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possibly be some things we can
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all
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all agree upon?
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there are several things we can
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agree upon, and advance
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together.
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we really provided a unified
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voice for the whole of western
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ontario to upper levels of government
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government specifically the
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province and the federal government.
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province and the federal government.
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we also conduct research and
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analysis to form solutions so we
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are not always going to the
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upper levels of government but
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also solutions. And
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and we also build partnerships
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that expand capacity for our
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member counties.
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our work is consistent,
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nonpartizan and also very clearly
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clearly grounded in evidence.
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next slide.
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so how do we do this?
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we don't do it in a silo we do
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it
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it within an incredible group
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within our 15 counties, we have
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our caucus where we are well
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represented by warden
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macdonald, then our ceos table
[9:21]
table represented by cao spheres
[9:22]
and we have our staff, government
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government relations and
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coordinator.
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supported by an economic
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development committee, elected
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officials, staff as well as
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ministry contact, stakeholders
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from
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from across the region.
[9:39]
last few years we implemented the
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the subject matter expert
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groups, and these are the groups
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that are really the voice on the
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ground if you will, staff from
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all 15 counties that really help
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inform
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inform the work that we do and
[9:54]
the advocacy we do.
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from planning we have rebecca,
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represented from essex, we have
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don, social services, we have
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wendy stark and we have caitlin
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as well.
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I always like to give a shout
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out to dee because the reason
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why we have an administration
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group is because dee was like can
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can we get one so we have one.
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next slide.
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so what do we aim for?
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what are our goals really?
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we want to be a voice for the
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region, consistent coordinated
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advocacy.
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we all want to be an information
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source, providing our members
[10:36]
and counties with insights, data
[10:39]
and research.
[10:40]
we want to be an asset for our
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counties.
[10:42]
shared regional initiatives like
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our
[10:45]
our conference tools and
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capacity buildings so when we
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all work together there is more
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there as well. And
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and we also want to be a valued
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partner of government.
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collective engagement with the
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province and federal government
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both within the minister's
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offices and the ministries as
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well.
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and we have found the structure
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has really provided the caucus
[11:04]
with measurable outcomes and I
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will dive into those later.
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next slide.
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a voice for the region, this
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year we have been laser focused
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on three strategic priorities,
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three
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three really key strategic
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priorities for this year that we
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wanted
[11:19]
wanted to tackle ahead of the municipal
[11:20]
municipal election in the hopes
[11:22]
of
[11:22]
of getting wins for the region.
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those were around
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infrastructure, workforce,
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mental health addictions and
[11:29]
homelessness.
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next slide.
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so for priority one we really
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focused on the canada ontario
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partnership to build a.
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we know in rural ontario building
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building infrastructure in this
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region
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region costs more than an urban
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centres, linear infrastructure
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you have further to go with less
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taxpayers
[11:46]
taxpayers along the km than
[11:48]
downtown toronto.
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so the costs go up when you look at
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at infrastructure in rural
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communities.
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so we worked really hard working
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with minister flacks office under
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under the canada ontario
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partnership to build and we were
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thrilled to attend the
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announcement sunday for the $1 billion for
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$1 billion for municipalities,
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and minister flack gave us some
[12:11]
praise in the advocacy we have
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done,
[12:13]
done, and the advocacy we have
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done really led to ensuring that
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$1 billion
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$1 billion was available for rural
[12:23]
rural municipalities and smaller
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municipalities as well.
[12:26]
next slide.
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we have also been doing a lot of
[12:29]
work in the homelessness
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prevention programme, gene has
[12:33]
been a huge advocate for you and
[12:35]
our social services table.
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we have been really working to
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get
[12:41]
get a rural dedicated
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homelessness prevention
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programme.
[12:44]
this is to make sure our rural
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communities have dedicated
[12:50]
funding, we have seen an
[12:51]
increase in homelessness in our
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rural
[12:53]
rural communities, it almost
[12:54]
looks different categories couch
[12:56]
surfing and living out of a car,
[12:57]
it's not necessarily individuals
[12:58]
on a wait-list or accessing services.
[13:01]
on a wait-list or accessing services.
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we want to make sure that our
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dollars in order to be able to
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address the growing concerns and
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be
[13:06]
be able to support our own
[13:09]
community members within
[13:10]
communities.
[13:10]
so we continue to advocate for
[13:13]
resources for rural homelessness
[13:15]
prevention.
[13:15]
next slide.
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last but not least regional
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rural transit.
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we have been pushing hard to look
[13:22]
look at a regional model for
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western ontario.
[13:25]
we had an individual from
[13:28]
huron county who did some research
[13:29]
research for us and found in the
[13:32]
gta, the province subsidizes transit
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transit traditionally $191 per
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resident per transit which is
[13:40]
great, you have the go and
[13:42]
metrolinx, but when you look at
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huron, stratford area, it is $13
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per resident.
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so a stark difference in the price
[13:52]
price investment in transit
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between our urban and rural
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counterparts. So
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so we are doing the hard work,
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we
[13:59]
we brought on donor consulting
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to look at where the gaps are
[14:02]
for transit within western
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ontario, where the
[14:06]
infrastructure is, where the
[14:08]
people are, where the jobs are,
[14:11]
where hospitals are as well as
[14:12]
employment needs.
[14:13]
so by doing that we will be able
[14:15]
to see where the gaps are and we
[14:17]
can move forward with the
[14:19]
province.
[14:19]
we met with minister sarkaria
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and he's committed one of his
[14:23]
staff members to sit on that
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project team, so we are excited
[14:26]
to
[14:26]
to see how that will move
[14:27]
forward this fall.
[14:29]
next slide.
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those were the three laser focused
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focused priorities we looked on
[14:33]
this year.
[14:34]
if you think back a couple slides
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slides ago we were talking about
[14:38]
being an information source, and
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we
[14:41]
we really take that seriously.
[14:42]
a major strength in it is our
[14:44]
ability to provide data, insight
[14:48]
and evidence for decision making
[14:49]
not
[14:49]
not only for ourselves but
[14:50]
member counties.
[14:52]
some of the examples of work we
[14:54]
have done are regional economic
[14:55]
development strategies, we have
[14:57]
done a workforce strategy
[14:58]
launched in 2022, we also worked
[15:01]
with
[15:01]
with housing and infrastructure
[15:03]
data tools with a rural ontario
[15:05]
institute, and research
[15:07]
partnerships and post-secondary
[15:09]
institutions
[15:09]
institutions such as western and
[15:11]
guelph and waterloo.
[15:13]
and we also have been
[15:15]
implementing some supply chain
[15:17]
mapping where unfortunately we
[15:18]
did not get the brand we had
[15:20]
applied for -- grant -- for the
[15:22]
province but we are exploring
[15:24]
options there federally.
[15:26]
next slide.
[15:28]
as an asset for counties, I just
[15:32]
want
[15:32]
want to touch on a few of the
[15:34]
accomplishments municipalities
[15:35]
had this term and the last four years
[15:37]
years as an organization.
[15:39]
up first, you may remember
[15:40]
several years ago the province
[15:43]
talked about allowing up to three
[15:46]
three lots of severance across
[15:49]
the province.
[15:50]
that was going to be the
[15:52]
equivalent of losing about a
[15:53]
million acres of farmland in
[15:55]
western ontario alone.
[15:56]
when we realized that our planning
[15:59]
planning expert team quickly got
[16:01]
together, crunched numbers,
[16:03]
worked together and our
[16:04]
executives met with minister
[16:06]
thompson and several other
[16:08]
ministers to sound the alarm
[16:10]
about the possibility of this
[16:12]
legislation and the impact in the
[16:14]
the region with a million acres
[16:16]
of
[16:16]
of farmland and within two weeks
[16:17]
they walked that legislation
[16:19]
back, primarily due to our
[16:21]
advocacy and work. Another
[16:24]
another win that we had
[16:25]
following that, was on the leave
[16:27]
to construct threshold in
[16:29]
february 2024.
[16:30]
this is where somebody coming into
[16:34]
into the region wants to build,
[16:37]
get natural gas to their site,
[16:39]
if it is -- at the time if it
[16:41]
was over $7 million it had to go
[16:43]
to
[16:43]
to the ontario energy board and
[16:44]
up to two years to the build.
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so we lost a lot of investment
[16:48]
within western ontario because
[16:51]
of
[16:51]
of that.
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our partners in bc, their
[16:53]
threshold is 10 million.
[16:54]
so we worked with partners in
[16:56]
eastern ontario and enbridge to
[16:57]
try to advocate to get that threshold
[17:00]
threshold increase and in february
[17:02]
february of 2024 that threshold
[17:03]
was
[17:03]
was increased to $10 million.
[17:05]
so any projects under 10 million don't
[17:07]
don't have to go through that process
[17:10]
process and can be built faster
[17:12]
through
[17:12]
through the province.
[17:14]
third we were able to secure
[17:15]
community response pilot project
[17:17]
funding for the region, with
[17:19]
both simcoe county and
[17:21]
lambton county, this is where we
[17:23]
partnered social workers with
[17:25]
paramedics, and the diversion rates
[17:27]
rates we have seen with this
[17:28]
programme are incredible.
[17:29]
it has been a two year pilot
[17:30]
with a wrap up in march of next
[17:33]
year and so right now we are
[17:35]
progressively advocating to make sure
[17:36]
sure this is a permanent
[17:37]
programme that will become accessible
[17:39]
accessible to all 15 counties
[17:40]
because it has been a wonderful
[17:42]
programme.
[17:42]
last but not least, just this
[17:45]
year, we had a big win with a
[17:47]
vulnerable sector checks.
[17:49]
last summer, all the vulnerable
[17:51]
sector checks for anybody who
[17:53]
has opp were consolidated into
[17:56]
one
[17:56]
one central process.
[17:57]
at the same time our long term
[17:59]
care
[17:59]
care homes were requiring
[18:00]
vulnerable sector checks it
[18:02]
created a perfect storm where the
[18:04]
the vulnerable sector checks
[18:05]
were taking upwards of months to
[18:07]
come
[18:07]
come back, we had individuals in
[18:08]
longer term care situations that
[18:11]
could not start work at
[18:12]
long term care facilities, and
[18:14]
this
[18:14]
this was raised at the
[18:16]
administration panel expert
[18:18]
table.
[18:18]
so we quickly talked to our cao
[18:21]
group, wardens group, and
[18:23]
brought together the data and
[18:25]
information and spoke to the solicitor
[18:27]
solicitor general's office and
[18:28]
said that this was a concern, so
[18:31]
from
[18:31]
from last year in august where
[18:32]
we
[18:32]
we had a months long
[18:34]
applications to january, the
[18:37]
dedicated 27 day turnaround of a
[18:38]
vulnerable sector checks and
[18:40]
committed to that in legislation
[18:41]
and that was enshrined in
[18:42]
legislation in may, vulnerable
[18:44]
sector checks will take no
[18:45]
longer than 27 days.
[18:47]
it all started with our
[18:49]
administration subject matter
[18:50]
expert team.
[18:51]
next slide.
[18:54]
as we talked about being a
[18:56]
valued partner of government, I
[18:57]
can run to the next slide, I don't
[18:59]
don't want to go too much over
[19:00]
time here, we engage the
[19:02]
government at many different
[19:04]
levels we have a dedicated queen's park
[19:07]
queen's park day in the spring,
[19:10]
also we write a policy briefs,
[19:13]
we report on environmental
[19:14]
registries and all the
[19:15]
submissions we can when it comes
[19:17]
to our strategic priorities, or
[19:19]
issues that are relevant to all
[19:21]
of
[19:21]
of western ontario and we often
[19:23]
meet with ministers whether it
[19:24]
is in toronto or whether it is
[19:28]
in the
[19:28]
in the constituencies offices,
[19:29]
we're very fortunate we have a
[19:31]
large number of ministers in the
[19:32]
province that are based in western ontario so
[19:34]
western ontario so we have the
[19:35]
advantage of being able to meet
[19:37]
them at their constituency
[19:38]
offices.
[19:38]
next slide.
[19:40]
for 2026 and beyond, next slide,
[19:44]
as
[19:44]
as we move forward, we continue
[19:45]
to have a strong engagement with
[19:48]
our partners, and we will
[19:49]
continue to advocate with
[19:51]
clarity and purpose, strengthen
[19:53]
our
[19:53]
our relationships with all
[19:54]
levels of government and remain
[19:56]
nonpartizan, and support our
[19:58]
members as we do that work.
[20:00]
as we move into january 2027
[20:02]
with our a gm we will kick things
[20:04]
things off with a brand new
[20:05]
strategic plan, as you come into
[20:08]
our a gm don't be surprised you
[20:10]
will be hearing from strategic
[20:12]
planners to get engaged and find
[20:15]
out how the wowc has helped you
[20:18]
and how you would like to see the wowc
[20:20]
the wowc help in the future, we
[20:22]
are
[20:22]
are looking forward to getting
[20:23]
that external strategic plan
[20:24]
developed for the next
[20:25]
four-year term.
[20:27]
we look forward to continuing a
[20:29]
partnership and having you members
[20:32]
members as the wowc and I am happy
[20:33]
happy to answer any questions
[20:35]
warden. >>
[20:36]
>> thank you kate, appreciate
[20:38]
that.
[20:38]
are there any questions?
[20:40]
councillors rogers?
[20:41]
>> thank you madam warden,
[20:42]
through you, I appreciate the
[20:45]
presentation and efforts, if you
[20:46]
need help anywhere we can get
[20:48]
it.
[20:48]
the great lakes initiative, some
[20:53]
of our
[20:53]
of our counties and local
[20:54]
municipalities are members, I
[20:55]
know eastern ontario ward caucus
[20:58]
are
[20:58]
are members, can understand that
[20:59]
have been in conversations with
[21:01]
federal
[21:01]
federal organizations, maybe just
[21:02]
just an update with where we are
[21:03]
at if you have one? >>
[21:05]
>> through you warden to
[21:06]
councillors rogers, yes, so the
[21:09]
great lakes city saint lawrence,
[21:12]
I
[21:12]
I often get them mixed up, long
[21:15]
one
[21:15]
one kirk apologies, the event in
[21:17]
may, the conference we signed a
[21:19]
memorandum of understanding.
[21:21]
so now we meet bimonthly, staff
[21:24]
team and support all work they
[21:26]
are doing.
[21:27]
there is great synergies there,
[21:29]
and since then we also had a number
[21:31]
number of our member counties
[21:32]
join the great lakes initiative
[21:34]
as well.
[21:35]
we are very pleased to be part
[21:37]
of that
[21:37]
of that organization. >>
[21:39]
>> anyone else?
[21:41]
thank you kate, appreciate your
[21:44]
time and effort to come down
[21:46]
here and report back to
[21:47]
the county council. >>
[21:49]
>> thank you warden.
[21:52]
>> next up we have delegation,
[21:56]
gordon
[21:56]
gordon orr, a ceo, investments
[22:00]
transixteen tourism windsor
[22:02]
essex pelee island will provide
[22:03]
presentation to council with
[22:05]
regard to the twepi and
[22:07]
investments windsor essex
[22:09]
activities in the essex windsor
[22:11]
region.
[22:11]
welcome gordon, always a
[22:13]
pleasure. >>
[22:13]
>> thank you warden macdonald
[22:14]
and members of essex county
[22:16]
council, I will sit so you can't
[22:19]
see me which will be great if
[22:20]
you could always good to be with
[22:21]
you.
[22:21]
I would like to acknowledge I'm
[22:23]
not here alone I'm joined by my
[22:25]
stellar fellow leadership team,
[22:26]
some of them are here, jason
[22:29]
toner, ed dawson and wendy
[22:32]
stark, I had the privilege of working
[22:33]
working with these fine folks on
[22:34]
a regular basis.
[22:36]
thank you very much for the
[22:37]
opportunity to provide an update
[22:39]
on
[22:39]
on the work invest windsor essex
[22:41]
and tourism windsor essex has
[22:42]
done as well as presented the
[22:44]
recommendations presented --
[22:46]
committed by consulting and I will
[22:47]
will begin with a brief overview
[22:49]
of
[22:49]
of performance by the
[22:50]
organizations before discussing
[22:51]
recommendations before council
[22:52]
this evening.
[22:53]
next slide, please.
[22:55]
we will begin with windsor
[22:57]
essex.
[22:57]
economic development continues
[22:58]
to
[22:58]
to be much more attracting new
[23:01]
investment, it is about
[23:03]
supporting existing businesses,
[23:05]
fostering
[23:05]
fostering entrepreneurship and
[23:06]
positioning windsor essex for future
[23:08]
future opportunities.
[23:09]
these performance metrics
[23:11]
highlight another strong year
[23:12]
for 2025 economic development,
[23:15]
investments essex facilitated
[23:17]
more than $382 million in new
[23:19]
investment, 961 new jobs, 56 business
[23:23]
business expansions, and 86
[23:25]
business start-ups.
[23:26]
next slide, please.
[23:27]
during the year invest windsor
[23:28]
essex through our small business
[23:30]
and
[23:30]
and entrepreneurship aspect
[23:32]
delivered over 1201 on one
[23:34]
consultations and 105 business
[23:37]
support sessions with more than
[23:40]
2200 attendees.
[23:40]
2200 attendees.
[23:40]
next slide, please.
[23:41]
our communications and marketing
[23:43]
efforts continue to extend well
[23:44]
beyond our borders, site
[23:46]
visitors come from canada,
[23:48]
united states, china, singapore
[23:50]
and germany, reflecting the
[23:52]
national and international audiences
[23:54]
audiences we are reaching
[23:55]
through our invest and
[23:56]
interaction marketing efforts.
[23:57]
next slide, please.
[23:59]
looking at our past highlights
[24:01]
we finalized the invest windsor
[24:03]
essex new 2025 through 2028
[24:05]
strategic plan, providing a road
[24:07]
map focused on investment
[24:08]
attraction, business growth,
[24:10]
innovation and stakeholder
[24:11]
communication.
[24:11]
the region also celebrated
[24:14]
significant investment in advanced
[24:15]
advanced manufacturing and at
[24:16]
the same time we continue
[24:18]
expanding beyond automotive
[24:20]
through targeted industry
[24:21]
diversification initiatives.
[24:22]
next slide, please.
[24:23]
I will now turn to tourism
[24:27]
windsor essex and pelee island,
[24:28]
tourism
[24:28]
tourism is a critical component
[24:29]
of
[24:29]
of the windsor essex economy,
[24:32]
going beyond attracting
[24:34]
visitors, it supports local
[24:35]
businesses, promotes our
[24:36]
municipalities and strengthens
[24:38]
community pride.
[24:39]
next slide, please, windsor
[24:41]
essex and pelee island welcomed
[24:43]
more than 5.1 million visitors
[24:45]
who generated approximately 816 million
[24:47]
816 million in visitor spending
[24:49]
kirk
[24:49]
kirk tourism is a vital industry
[24:50]
as it remains a significant economic
[24:52]
economic generator and job creator.
[24:53]
economic generator and job creator.
[24:53]
next slide, please.
[24:55]
those economic outcomes are
[24:57]
supported by highly effective
[24:58]
destination marketing, 2025
[25:00]
showed record breaking
[25:01]
engagement, and we all know
[25:03]
awareness creates interest and
[25:04]
interest creates visitation.
[25:06]
next slide, please.
[25:07]
this year's official visitor guide
[25:09]
guide launched on april 23rd
[25:11]
includes 292 tourism partners,
[25:13]
with over 4000 printed copies
[25:16]
copies distributed and 100,000
[25:17]
digital views to date.
[25:18]
next slide, please.
[25:20]
our partner programmes, more
[25:22]
than 550 partners featured
[25:23]
through these programmes, these
[25:25]
collaborative initiatives help
[25:27]
drive
[25:27]
drive visitation across all
[25:28]
municipalities.
[25:28]
next slide, please.
[25:30]
I would like now to turn to
[25:32]
purpose of tonight's report, earlier
[25:34]
earlier this year with the
[25:35]
support of both invest windsor
[25:36]
essex and tourism windsor essex
[25:38]
pelee island board we had an independent
[25:42]
independent consulting firm
[25:43]
undertake an objective review of
[25:44]
how invested windsor essex
[25:46]
tourism windsor essex can best
[25:48]
position
[25:48]
position themselves for longer
[25:49]
term success, over the course of
[25:51]
four
[25:51]
four months north guide reviewed
[25:53]
evidence models from across
[25:54]
canada, organizational financial
[25:56]
information, conducted stakeholder
[25:58]
stakeholder interviews and
[25:58]
facilitated workshops with both
[26:01]
boards and both teams.
[26:02]
their recommendations are
[26:03]
evidence based, practical and
[26:05]
designed to strengthen regional
[26:07]
service delivery while building
[26:08]
on the
[26:09]
on the success both
[26:10]
organizations have already achieved
[26:11]
achieved preclinic slide
[26:12]
please.
[26:12]
this slide captures what I believe
[26:15]
believe is the most important
[26:16]
message in the report, north
[26:17]
guide concluded both
[26:19]
organizations are highly respected
[26:21]
respected and perform
[26:22]
effectively, this review was not
[26:23]
initiated
[26:23]
initiated because of financial
[26:24]
challenges, or organizational
[26:26]
shortcomings but rather
[26:27]
recognizing opportunities to
[26:28]
build on our existing strengths,
[26:32]
the
[26:32]
the opportunity lies in creating
[26:33]
a stronger government structure,
[26:36]
improving
[26:36]
improving operational
[26:37]
coordination, and reinvesting
[26:39]
efficiencies into expanding
[26:40]
capacity.
[26:40]
the objective is a strong
[26:43]
organization not a smaller one,
[26:45]
and any efficiencies should
[26:46]
allow us to do more for the
[26:47]
region not less.
[26:47]
next slide, please.
[26:49]
north guides first
[26:50]
recommendation focuses on
[26:51]
governance.
[26:51]
they recommend replacing the
[26:54]
current two boards with one
[26:55]
unified skill based board of
[26:57]
approximately nine to 11
[26:59]
directors, that board would be
[27:00]
selected
[27:00]
selected using the skills matrix
[27:01]
to ensure expertise in areas
[27:03]
such as finance, governance,
[27:06]
legal, marketing,
[27:07]
communications, tourism and economic
[27:09]
economic development.
[27:10]
importantly the warden of essex county
[27:12]
essex county and the mayor of
[27:13]
windsor would continue to serve
[27:15]
ensuring strong municipal
[27:16]
involvement.
[27:16]
the warden and mayor may each
[27:18]
designate a member of their
[27:19]
respective council as an
[27:21]
alternate, this would ensure
[27:22]
consistent municipal
[27:24]
representation and accommodate
[27:26]
scheduling conflicts and other
[27:27]
commitments.
[27:27]
separate advisory committees for
[27:30]
both economic development and tourism
[27:32]
tourism would have specialized
[27:34]
sector expertise.
[27:35]
next slide, please.
[27:36]
one of the most common questions
[27:38]
we receive today was whether either
[27:40]
either organization's brand
[27:41]
would disappear, the short answer
[27:42]
answer is no.
[27:43]
north guide specifically
[27:44]
recommends maintaining both
[27:45]
invest windsor essex and tourism
[27:47]
windsor essex as distinct
[27:49]
business units under one legal
[27:52]
parent
[27:52]
parent organization.
[27:52]
both brands build significant
[27:54]
credibility with different
[27:56]
audiences, maintaining those
[27:57]
identities protects the equity
[27:59]
that has already been built up
[28:00]
over many years, and any future
[28:02]
consideration of branding would
[28:04]
occur only after the
[28:06]
organizations have successfully
[28:07]
integrated operationally.
[28:08]
next slide, please.
[28:10]
the next recommendation focuses
[28:12]
on shared services.
[28:13]
rather than duplicating
[28:14]
administrative functions across
[28:16]
the two organizations, north guide
[28:17]
guide recommends consolidating
[28:18]
areas such as finance human
[28:20]
resources and information
[28:21]
technology support, and by
[28:24]
consolidating these services
[28:25]
would create operational
[28:26]
efficiencies.
[28:26]
efficiencies achieved will be
[28:29]
reinvested directly into expanding
[28:31]
expanding services and regional
[28:32]
prosperity growth.
[28:33]
next slide, please.
[28:35]
integration is much more than just
[28:37]
just governance, it's also about
[28:38]
creating a shared organization
[28:40]
culture.
[28:40]
north guide recommends beginning
[28:42]
immediately by developing shared
[28:43]
mission vision and values between
[28:44]
between the two organizations,
[28:46]
and the report identifies long term
[28:49]
long term objectives of
[28:49]
eventually bringing both teams
[28:52]
together
[28:52]
together into one shared
[28:52]
location by 2029.
[28:54]
next slide, please.
[28:55]
north guide recommends a careful
[28:58]
phased in implementation, phase
[29:00]
one
[29:00]
one beginning this year focuses
[29:01]
on
[29:01]
on governance, legal structure,
[29:03]
shared mission vision values and
[29:05]
establishing a foundation for the
[29:06]
the integrated organization.
[29:08]
phase two introduces shared
[29:11]
services, harmonized policies,
[29:13]
formal
[29:13]
formal pathways and greater
[29:14]
operational alignment.
[29:16]
phase three extends through 2029,
[29:19]
2029, considering shared space,
[29:20]
a future brand review, and a
[29:22]
governance assessment act of three
[29:24]
three years.
[29:24]
this phased in approach minimizes
[29:26]
minimizes disruption, allowing
[29:28]
each
[29:28]
each milestone to build upon the
[29:29]
previous one.
[29:30]
next slide, please.
[29:32]
successful integration depends
[29:33]
on strong communication and staff
[29:35]
staff engagement, the report
[29:37]
recommends direct communication
[29:39]
from
[29:39]
from leadership, consistent to
[29:41]
funders, like we are here
[29:42]
tonight and stakeholders and involving
[29:44]
involving staff in designing the
[29:46]
future
[29:46]
future organization.
[29:47]
the objective is to build a stronger
[29:49]
stronger organization by
[29:50]
investing in people, not
[29:52]
reducing capacity.
[29:53]
next slide, please.
[29:55]
ultimately success will be
[29:56]
measured by outcomes.
[29:57]
success means a unified board,
[29:59]
providing strong oversight, it
[30:01]
means a streamlined operation allowing
[30:03]
allowing resources to be
[30:05]
directed towards programmes and
[30:06]
services.
[30:06]
it means staff working
[30:08]
collaboratively within a shared
[30:10]
culture built around a common
[30:11]
mission and values.
[30:12]
and most importantly meaning the
[30:14]
region continues receiving
[30:15]
exceptional service from two trusted
[30:17]
trusted brands that are now working
[30:19]
working even more effectively
[30:21]
together.
[30:21]
the recommendation before
[30:23]
council tonight hopefully is
[30:24]
straightforward, we request
[30:26]
the county council approve in
[30:27]
principle the alignment
[30:28]
recommendations, unanimously
[30:30]
endorsed by north guide --
[30:33]
endorsed by invest windsor essex
[30:35]
and tourism windsor essex pelee
[30:37]
island board of directors at the
[30:39]
meeting
[30:39]
meeting of june 30th,
[30:40]
recommendations related
[30:40]
specifically to governance,
[30:42]
organizational structure and
[30:44]
phased in approach integration,
[30:46]
as outlined in the north guide
[30:48]
report.
[30:48]
report.
[30:48]
and any future representation
[30:50]
measures will be requiring board
[30:53]
approval and city and county
[30:54]
councils will receive a progress
[30:56]
update
[30:56]
update during the first quarter
[30:57]
of 2027.
[30:58]
in closing I would like to thank warden
[31:00]
warden macdonald and of course
[31:01]
members of county council for
[31:03]
their continued partnership and
[31:05]
support on both invest windsor
[31:06]
essex and tourism windsor essex
[31:08]
pelee island.
[31:08]
I would like to specifically
[31:10]
thank and recognize warden
[31:12]
macdonald who has the
[31:13]
distinction of serving on both
[31:14]
boards of directors and we very
[31:16]
much
[31:16]
much appreciate your leadership
[31:18]
two
[31:18]
two thank you.
[31:18]
I would also like to recognize
[31:21]
mayor dennis rogers and
[31:23]
mayor malloy who both serve on
[31:24]
the tourism board, thank you both
[31:25]
both for your leadership and active
[31:28]
active engagement, in particular
[31:29]
I would
[31:29]
I would like to give a shout out
[31:30]
to mayor meloche, for her
[31:35]
constant support and being a great
[31:38]
great soundboard, it's very much
[31:39]
appreciated, thank you very much.
[31:40]
appreciated, thank you very much.
[31:40]
I would also like to thank and
[31:41]
recognize the entire
[31:42]
administrative team here, at
[31:44]
the county of essex.
[31:45]
we know your ceo zwiers, we know
[31:50]
the tone
[31:50]
the tone is set at the top and
[31:51]
all of her department heads and staff
[31:53]
staff are a pleasure to work with
[31:54]
with and we appreciate working
[31:56]
with them on many projects and
[31:57]
initiatives.
[31:57]
moving forward, both invest
[32:00]
windsor essex and tourism windsor
[32:01]
windsor essex pelee island continue
[32:02]
continue to attract investment,
[32:04]
will continue
[32:04]
will continue to grow
[32:05]
businesses, support
[32:06]
entrepreneurs, welcome visitors
[32:08]
and will strengthen long term
[32:10]
prosperity of our region of the
[32:12]
north guide recommendations
[32:13]
represent an opportunity to build
[32:14]
build on that success, and deliver
[32:16]
deliver even greater value to our
[32:17]
our municipalities, businesses,
[32:20]
residents and visitors and I want
[32:21]
want to thank you very much for
[32:22]
your time this evening and at the
[32:24]
the appropriate time I would be
[32:25]
happy to answer questions, thank you.
>>
[32:27]
happy to answer questions, thank you.
>>
[32:27]
>> thank you gordon.
[32:28]
we will start with questions.
[32:32]
councillor bondy? >>
[32:34]
>> thank you warden macdonald,
[32:36]
that is a lot, you talk fast but that
[32:38]
that is good we are used to it
[32:40]
and it
[32:40]
and it has a lot to digest. It's
[32:41]
it's not a surprise the
[32:43]
direction that is being
[32:45]
recommended.
[32:45]
one question that I'm sure you
[32:47]
are getting asked by everybody
[32:49]
so I will just ask it here in this
[32:50]
this room, and I do have a
[32:51]
follow up question, what caused
[32:55]
what
[32:55]
what are the county or city see
[32:57]
by merging -- we have one less
[33:01]
office, one top cat or top dog
[33:05]
now, is there a decrease in the
[33:08]
levy
[33:08]
levy request going forward
[33:09]
because of that?
[33:12]
>> am I a top dog or cat? [chuckling]
[33:16]
>> am I a top dog or cat? [chuckling]
[33:16]
big question.
[33:17]
I had 10 minutes I tried to fit
[33:18]
it all in.
[33:19]
thank you very much, through you
[33:21]
warden to the council.
[33:23]
it's a very good question and we
[33:24]
have been asked that question.
[33:26]
the intent is any savings that
[33:28]
we find between the two
[33:30]
organizations, we would then reimagine
[33:32]
reimagine within the
[33:33]
organization. There
[33:33]
there is no real cost savings to
[33:36]
the city and county because as
[33:37]
you know kirk we have
[33:39]
experienced certainly on the
[33:40]
investment side, flat funding for
[33:42]
for over a decade.
[33:44]
and I know you have a lot of budget
[33:46]
budget pressures and that's not
[33:47]
a
[33:47]
a slam to the city or county, it's
[33:49]
it's the reality.
[33:50]
we recognize -- I think that's
[33:51]
why the two boards recognized
[33:52]
that one way that we could
[33:54]
perhaps be more efficient and effective
[33:56]
effective is to look internally
[33:57]
and see how we can have some
[33:59]
savings as you suggest, with for
[34:02]
example one cao, we have one
[34:04]
manager, administrative services
[34:06]
now, so those dollars would then
[34:07]
be able to be reimagined and
[34:09]
reinvested in the organization,
[34:11]
so we don't have a budget for
[34:13]
you to share because for 27 and
[34:17]
probably 28, we will have two separate
[34:19]
separate budgets for both
[34:20]
organizations and we will be
[34:22]
coming to city and county council
[34:24]
council with those budgets. So
[34:26]
so right now what we would be doing
[34:27]
doing is for example my salary
[34:29]
is
[34:29]
is paid by tourism, and then we will
[34:32]
will have the salary to invest
[34:34]
windsor essex.
[34:35]
I hope that helps answer your
[34:38]
question. >>
[34:38]
>> thank you.
[34:39]
since you are here, I have another
[34:42]
another challenging question, so you
[34:45]
you gave a very good
[34:46]
presentation, about a year ago
[34:49]
in colchester, a short term
[34:51]
venture about municipal
[34:53]
accommodation tax.
[34:54]
something really resonated with
[34:56]
me in the divide between the
[34:58]
amount of tax dollars that the
[34:59]
city of windsor is going to have
[35:01]
and the amount of tax dollars the
[35:02]
the county has, I wonder if you
[35:04]
can give us a high level?
[35:05]
if we are talking marketing and
[35:07]
everything, and I'm not saying
[35:09]
I
[35:09]
support municipal tax or not,
[35:11]
I'm just gathering information,
[35:13]
and
[35:13]
and I think this is a good venue
[35:15]
because
[35:15]
because you are here.
[35:16]
if the county municipalities don't
[35:18]
don't come together and support
[35:19]
municipal
[35:19]
municipal accommodations tax
[35:21]
which has a lot of pros and
[35:23]
cons, were the consequences when
[35:25]
it
[35:25]
it comes to competing against the
[35:26]
the city of windsor for tourism
[35:28]
dollars?
[35:28]
>> three warden to the
[35:30]
councillor, that is a very good
[35:33]
question.
[35:33]
right now if I were to take round numbers
[35:36]
round numbers I would say that
[35:38]
tourism is funded right now 66 by
[35:40]
by the city and 33% by the
[35:43]
county. And
[35:43]
and it is becoming increasingly
[35:46]
difficult to try and just spend
[35:50]
the money the city gives us on
[35:53]
city led
[35:53]
city led initiatives.
[35:54]
we are getting pretty good at it
[35:56]
but
[35:56]
but it is becoming more difficult,
[35:58]
difficult, the more money we
[35:59]
raise through the municipal
[36:00]
accommodation tax.
[36:01]
I think the county is being left
[36:02]
behind
[36:02]
behind and I think I have said
[36:04]
that to all of you in the past,
[36:06]
because
[36:06]
because there's a number of
[36:07]
municipalities in the province
[36:09]
collecting it, and those
[36:10]
municipalities are outpacing us in
[36:13]
in promotion and marketing, and
[36:15]
using dollars to lure events whether
[36:17]
whether it is sporting events to
[36:19]
your town's, or other events.
[36:21]
it is becoming a challenging.
[36:23]
I think we are fortunate the
[36:26]
city of windsor is still looking
[36:27]
at this
[36:27]
at this very much as a regional
[36:29]
approach and working very well
[36:31]
together.
[36:31]
together.
[36:31]
I think on the tourism side.
[36:35]
but I know that the county is
[36:37]
looking at that and it is
[36:38]
becoming more challenging for us
[36:40]
internally to look at what was
[36:43]
once a global regional budget,
[36:46]
now
[36:46]
now looking at it being more of
[36:48]
a separated budget.
[36:50]
so I would implore the
[36:52]
municipalities to really do
[36:53]
another hard look, and I know some of
[36:55]
some of you are more advanced in
[36:56]
this
[36:56]
this and are appreciative, but
[36:59]
collecting that accommodation
[37:00]
tax would be a game changer because
[37:02]
because we won't have to go back
[37:03]
to
[37:03]
to the county taxpayer to ask
[37:05]
for more money, nor will there
[37:06]
be a greater divide between what
[37:08]
the city and county fund that
[37:10]
organization. >>
[37:12]
>> I just want to thank you for
[37:13]
answering
[37:13]
answering that for us,
[37:15]
thank you.
[37:15]
something to keep in mind in the
[37:17]
future.
[37:17]
>> councillor bailey?
[37:20]
>> thank you very much, through
[37:22]
you
[37:22]
you warden, very thrilled to see
[37:24]
this report, very thrilled to
[37:25]
see the integrated work that's
[37:26]
been going on, highly
[37:29]
supportive.
[37:29]
you will note too lakeshore
[37:31]
recently did another thing, we
[37:33]
will be bumping up at 33% I
[37:35]
hope, and seeing a bit more
[37:37]
happening in the counties so we
[37:38]
hope to do that.
[37:39]
I was wondering if you can walk
[37:41]
me through slide number 14,
[37:45]
mostly around the composition around
[37:48]
around the board tables.
[37:49]
fully understood the advisory
[37:52]
committee approach on both sides
[37:53]
of
[37:53]
of the house, understand
[37:56]
integration very well.
[37:57]
just wondering about the board
[37:58]
table, I heard you say the
[38:00]
warden and mayor of the city, I
[38:01]
wonder who else fills those
[38:04]
positions?
[38:04]
>> through you warden, thank you
[38:07]
very
[38:07]
very much for the question and
[38:08]
thank you to lakeshore for
[38:11]
implementing the municipal
[38:12]
accommodation tax.
[38:14]
I would like to point out that
[38:15]
in
[38:15]
in the past, the university
[38:17]
board always had the mayor and
[38:18]
the warden sit on that board.
[38:20]
the tourism board always had three
[38:23]
three representatives from city
[38:24]
and three from county and a mayor of
[38:25]
mayor of pelee island. And
[38:26]
and that it was done based on
[38:28]
the necessity about 15 years ago
[38:30]
when the organization was
[38:31]
struggling, and the elected
[38:34]
officials wanted to get a hold
[38:35]
of
[38:35]
of the public funds and build
[38:37]
that trust.
[38:38]
we did that I think quite
[38:40]
successfully and then we brought
[38:41]
on four stakeholders to round
[38:44]
out 11 member board.
[38:45]
but we have continued that
[38:47]
path. Now
[38:47]
now that we are looking at this
[38:50]
new
[38:50]
new organization, it was felt that it
[38:51]
that it may be at a higher level
[38:53]
we would have more of a skilled
[38:55]
based board and we would still
[38:57]
have very importantly municipal
[38:59]
representation. And
[38:59]
and that would be the head of council and
[39:02]
council and the head of the
[39:03]
city council and county
[39:05]
council.
[39:05]
it was actually mayor meloche that
[39:07]
that came up with a great idea,
[39:10]
an
[39:10]
an idea to the consultants that
[39:12]
there will
[39:12]
there will be an alternate,
[39:14]
because we both know that the mayor
[39:15]
mayor and the warden are very busy
[39:17]
busy and if they cannot attend
[39:18]
a
[39:18]
meeting, then that
[39:19]
representation is not there.
[39:21]
so we came up with this idea of
[39:23]
an alternate which I think is a
[39:24]
great idea, I look at it for the
[39:26]
four
[39:26]
four years as well, and when the
[39:28]
mayor
[39:28]
mayor or warden, I'll take the
[39:31]
warden example, they will get one
[39:33]
one vote of their alternatives
[39:34]
their, if they are both there,
[39:35]
elizabeth
[39:35]
elizabeth will be in tune with
[39:36]
what's going on and have a
[39:37]
chance to speak to the item.
[39:40]
then the other positions we have
[39:41]
failed because we don't have
[39:44]
necessarily skills in finance,
[39:46]
legal, hr, those would be the
[39:50]
sorts of folks we would look at the
[39:52]
the governance table.
[39:54]
very much there is a need for expert
[39:59]
expert representation, that's
[40:00]
why we felt the secretary advisory
[40:02]
advisory committee would come
[40:03]
and play.
[40:04]
we would have two silos, so to
[40:05]
speak,, the tourism and
[40:08]
economic.
[40:08]
they would be open to people
[40:10]
that are engaged and those
[40:13]
environments, and they will
[40:15]
funnel ideas, thoughts kirk
[40:17]
suggestions to leadership of both
[40:19]
both organizations and that
[40:21]
information will be shared to me
[40:23]
and brought to the board.
[40:25]
the two secretary advisory
[40:26]
committees will not have
[40:28]
governance power, but more
[40:30]
importantly they will be
[40:32]
providing their time and expertise.
[40:33]
providing their time and expertise.
[40:33]
that is how we looked at
[40:35]
structuring the new governance
[40:37]
model of the organization. >>
[40:39]
>> thank you so much, I am highly
[40:42]
highly supportive of this model,
[40:44]
expertise will be around at the
[40:46]
table
[40:46]
table and you will have that
[40:47]
integration team going that will
[40:49]
be a powerhouse, I'm happy to
[40:51]
see people there.
[40:53]
thank you.
[40:54]
>> councillor mcnamara?
[40:56]
>> thank you madam warden.
[41:00]
certainly, no real question here but
[41:03]
but a more comment, I think it
[41:08]
is highly timed that we combined
[41:11]
both.
[41:11]
both.
[41:11]
I firmly believe that tourism is
[41:14]
another pillar of economic
[41:16]
development, and when you start
[41:18]
looking at the numbers, 5.16 million
[41:23]
5.16 million visitors, and
[41:25]
spending over 800 million, and
[41:27]
you look at 266 million in tax
[41:31]
revenue, you are talking --
[41:33]
those are big numbers.
[41:36]
and I really like the concept in
[41:38]
terms of combining that into an
[41:41]
economic
[41:41]
economic development because as
[41:43]
I stated earlier, it is a pillar
[41:46]
of economic
[41:46]
of economic development.
[41:47]
I really supported the fact that
[41:49]
you are looking at a more broad based
[41:52]
based professional board, a
[41:55]
governance structure.
[41:56]
I think it is high time, I think
[41:59]
both
[41:59]
both organizations, you alluded
[42:00]
to
[42:00]
to the reason why it was more
[42:03]
involvement from the municipal
[42:06]
representation, I firmly believe
[42:09]
over the
[42:09]
over the course of the years both
[42:10]
both organizations have matured
[42:12]
quite
[42:12]
quite nicely and have done
[42:13]
tremendous amount of work.
[42:16]
as they say, figures don't lie,
[42:20]
and
[42:20]
and you have proven obviously
[42:21]
time and time again.
[42:24]
on the map tax I firmly support
[42:27]
that, I remember when I was
[42:28]
president of amo, my last term
[42:31]
was
[42:31]
was introduced as the provincial
[42:34]
government
[42:34]
government said, we would give
[42:36]
you more tools in the toolbox to
[42:38]
generate revenue.
[42:39]
and what people have to
[42:40]
understand is well, the revenue
[42:43]
generated there from visitors coming
[42:44]
coming into the community, it's
[42:46]
not
[42:46]
not from our own property tax
[42:48]
owners and so forth.
[42:50]
ploughing those dollars back into
[42:52]
into promotion and other
[42:54]
programmes, it takes away the
[42:55]
pressure in terms of looking at
[42:58]
additional rounds coming from
[42:59]
the property tax base.
[43:01]
I fully support that particular
[43:05]
direction.
[43:05]
it makes a whole lot of sense.
[43:08]
I think it's timely that you are
[43:11]
here, looking at these
[43:13]
recommendations.
[43:13]
I think it is now time to move
[43:20]
forward and professionalize
[43:22]
obviously the organization to
[43:23]
the next level.
[43:25]
because we're not competing just
[43:28]
regionally or obviously the
[43:31]
province, this is rural class,
[43:33]
and I were trying to attract
[43:36]
investment to the region on a
[43:37]
professional level, as well as
[43:41]
bringing those revenues here, I
[43:43]
think that would be critical.
[43:45]
I think the makeup of the board
[43:49]
and using those resources that
[43:51]
you already have, combining them
[43:55]
under one roof in 2029 makes
[43:57]
great sense.
[43:58]
madam warden certainly the
[44:00]
proper time I would be ready to
[44:01]
move the recommendation. >>
[44:04]
>> I will take note of that,
[44:06]
thank you.
[44:07]
councillors rogers? >>
[44:08]
>> thank you madam warden,
[44:09]
through you, appreciate this, seems
[44:12]
seems like we have seen a lot of
[44:13]
you guys lately.
[44:14]
I will be straight to the point
[44:16]
as I am good at, with two words
[44:17]
at a point I would at me was
[44:20]
beyond and automotive. We
[44:21]
we all know the power and strength
[44:22]
strength we have in the tool of the
[44:24]
the automotive sector, but with
[44:28]
windsor-essex here you know I will
[44:29]
will ask about that.
[44:29]
we have 3000 acres of under glass
[44:34]
glass and that attracts a lot of
[44:36]
those medium sized businesses.
[44:38]
maybe some conversations you
[44:39]
have moving forward, where did
[44:41]
that invest windsor-essex is doing
[44:43]
doing looking to attract those
[44:44]
businesses to the county? >>
[44:47]
>> through you warden, thank you
[44:49]
very much.
[44:50]
we hear you, every time you do
[44:52]
mention -- yes, we are certainly
[44:54]
automotive and that is very much
[44:56]
the backbone, so to speak, of
[44:59]
the area, at the end of the day there's
[45:01]
there's a number of different sectors
[45:02]
sectors we are looking at,
[45:04]
defence is another one
[45:05]
obviously, it is very hot right
[45:07]
now, and we -- we hear you, and
[45:12]
our investment attraction team
[45:13]
is working diligently. >>
[45:17]
>> councillor akpata? >>
[45:18]
>> thank you madam warden,
[45:19]
through you to the team, truly
[45:21]
just a comment.
[45:21]
had an opportunity to go to the
[45:23]
opening of the gordie howe
[45:24]
bridge, the first time, and then
[45:26]
the second time, which was
[45:28]
actually the realtime, I just want
[45:29]
want you to take back to the
[45:31]
staff you had on sandwich
[45:32]
street, watch how they engage american
[45:34]
american cyclists that came
[45:35]
over.
[45:35]
listened to some conversations
[45:38]
and
[45:38]
and eavesdropping kind of way
[45:40]
but just involved kind of way,
[45:42]
one of
[45:42]
one of the things I really
[45:42]
noticed was the engagement that
[45:44]
your
[45:44]
your folks had with the people
[45:45]
who are visiting.
[45:47]
and it was for me, sitting beside
[45:49]
beside the small business owners
[45:52]
where
[45:52]
where the tourism stand was if
[45:54]
I can
[45:54]
can call it that, I watch how they
[45:56]
they interact with business
[45:57]
owners, and I watched how
[45:59]
business owners interact with the american
[46:00]
the american cyclists that came,
[46:01]
and I just wanted to tell you please
[46:03]
please take it back.
[46:05]
wonderful.
[46:05]
it was a really great day,
[46:10]
especially -- I don't cycle but
[46:11]
to see
[46:12]
to see all these people cycling
[46:13]
and
[46:13]
and
[46:13]
and
[46:13]
and
[46:13]
to stop and talk to some of
[46:15]
our american visitors who cross
[46:17]
that day on their
[46:18]
that day on their
[46:18]
that day on their
[46:18]
bicycles, who
[46:19]
had never come over before, I
[46:21]
was there when they discussed --
[46:22]
there is
[46:22]
there is a noodle factory across
[46:24]
the
[46:24]
the bridge we don't speak about
[46:25]
it anymore, I was listening to the
[46:26]
the gentleman talk about the noodle
[46:28]
noodle factory with the owner of
[46:30]
rockbottom, and just that entire
[46:31]
engagement was done right beside
[46:34]
your stand and your staff were
[46:35]
engaged and it was wonderful.
[46:37]
please bring my comments back.
[46:39]
thank you.
[46:41]
>> councillor meloche? >>
[46:43]
>> thank you warden, through you,
[46:44]
you, I just want to say
[46:45]
thank you to your team and north
[46:46]
guide, you guys worked very fast.
[chuckling]
in
[46:49]
guide, you guys worked very fast.
[chuckling]
in
[46:49]
guide, you guys worked very fast.
[chuckling]
in
[46:49]
in a very short period of time,
[46:50]
got a
[46:50]
got a lot of work done.
[46:52]
I appreciate the fact that you
[46:54]
took our comments from both
[46:55]
wards to heart and presented us with something
[46:57]
with something that I think
[46:58]
everybody was very comfortable
[46:59]
with moving forward, and that
[47:01]
was not an easy task.
[47:02]
I appreciated the three phases
[47:04]
because I think this is a big
[47:05]
step for our organizations, and
[47:07]
a great way to move forward.
[47:09]
I especially love that as of right
[47:11]
right now you are keeping the two
[47:13]
two brands because it is
[47:13]
something we were very
[47:15]
passionate about and did not
[47:15]
want to lose, people know the logo
[47:18]
logo and the brand, in west
[47:20]
windsor essex so that it was
[47:22]
important.
[47:22]
thank you again and your team and
[47:25]
and north guide because you guys
[47:26]
really
[47:26]
really listened to the members
[47:28]
of
[47:28]
of the board before you put this
[47:30]
together, and I think you
[47:32]
presented something that is
[47:34]
really positive and will help
[47:36]
our region moving forward so
[47:39]
thank you. >>
[47:39]
>> thank you, anybody else?
[47:42]
in that case I am not going to
[47:45]
-- sorry, I need to see hands a
[47:48]
little higher if you don't mind.
[47:49]
little higher if you don't mind.
[47:49]
must be my eyesight, councillor
[47:52]
bailey?
[47:52]
>> thank you for giving me a second
[47:54]
second chance, I wanted to say
[47:58]
I
[47:58]
hope you continue to reach out
[47:59]
to local administration and
[48:02]
local mayors when you come into
[48:03]
our
[48:03]
our communities as well, in
[48:06]
particular because we are asking
[48:07]
the province to you know consult
[48:09]
with us and let us know before
[48:10]
they do hydro connections and
[48:12]
some of those bigger things
[48:13]
happening.
[48:13]
we are up against changing
[48:16]
clients, data centres, and I
[48:18]
hate to find out backwards
[48:20]
right?
[48:20]
as these things happen in our community
[48:22]
community I hope the
[48:23]
collaboration with our
[48:24]
administration and council
[48:26]
continues so we know that these
[48:28]
consultations or questions or things
[48:30]
things that are coming up we would like
[48:31]
would like to know about them.
[48:33]
welcome you to continue that good
[48:34]
good collaboration and dialogue
[48:35]
with us. >>
[48:37]
>> through you warden, to the
[48:39]
councillor, thank you very
[48:40]
much.
[48:40]
absolutely.
[48:40]
and I will also say we have a
[48:44]
regional tourism committee now,
[48:45]
and regional economic
[48:46]
development committee.
[48:47]
a lot of them shared the same
[48:49]
hat, but we are going to keep
[48:51]
those folks from the
[48:52]
administrative teams certainly up
[48:53]
up to date, and you have my
[48:55]
commitment as much as you have
[48:56]
for
[48:56]
for the last 16 years of being
[48:58]
out
[48:58]
out to council at least once a
[48:59]
year.
[48:59]
itis, we are there. >>
[49:03]
>> thank you.
[49:05]
I won't reread the entire
[49:07]
recommendation for council but
[49:10]
for the
[49:10]
for the recommendations county
[49:11]
council, county of essex council
[49:13]
approve the alignment
[49:15]
recommendations, and that is
[49:16]
moved by councillor mcnamara,
[49:18]
looking for a secondary?
[49:20]
councillor meloche.
[49:21]
any further comments or questions
[49:23]
questions in that regard?
[49:25]
will we vote electronically?
[49:27]
okay, we will vote
[49:28]
electronically please.
[49:31]
and that is a unanimous stamp of
[49:47]
approval, well done.
[49:48]
well done.
[49:49]
looking forward to what is
[49:51]
next.
[49:51]
thank you and thank you to your team
[49:54]
team as well we appreciate all
[49:55]
of
[49:55]
of you puck moving on to
[49:58]
communications, there are 12
[50:00]
pieces of correspondence listed
[50:01]
on
[50:01]
on the agenda this evening, one of which
[50:03]
of which council has already
[50:05]
received, any items of
[50:07]
correspondence that council
[50:07]
wishes to discuss further?
[50:10]
councillor bondy. >>
[50:11]
>> thank you warden macdonald,
[50:13]
there are two items in particular
[50:15]
particular interest to myself,
[50:16]
I
[50:16]
will start with the easy one,
[50:18]
which is ten .1.8, I would like
[50:22]
to pull that and see if there is
[50:25]
a will from county council to
[50:27]
support it.
[50:27]
it is in regards to the public
[50:30]
library operating branch, it
[50:32]
appears the branch has been frozen
[50:34]
frozen since the 90s and so we
[50:36]
are stuck at the same value even
[50:38]
though there is increases each
[50:40]
year.
[50:40]
year.
[50:40]
so it would be really nice to
[50:42]
see if the province would revisit
[50:45]
revisit funding that grant more,
[50:47]
which would
[50:47]
which would help us here locally
[50:49]
so I would like to move that we
[50:50]
endorse the resolution passed by
[50:52]
the township of armour regarding
[50:55]
the
[50:55]
the sustainable ontario public
[50:56]
library fund, and further
[50:58]
council directed staff to
[51:01]
support this letter and send it
[51:05]
to the
[51:05]
to the premier and perhaps also
[51:06]
amo and federation of ontario
[51:08]
public libraries and perhaps the
[51:11]
western wardens conference?
[51:14]
>> western ontario conference.
[51:16]
>>
[51:16]
>> yes, them.
[51:18]
if I could get a seconder I
[51:19]
would like to support that
[51:20]
please.
[51:20]
>> councillor bailey is the
[51:23]
seconder, any further comments
[51:24]
or questions by anyone?
[51:27]
then I will ask all in favour?
[51:30]
opposed?
[51:30]
and that is carried.
[51:33]
okay.
[51:33]
and there is another one?
[51:37]
>> yes thank you warden.
[51:41]
10.1.9.
[51:41]
I was really happy to see this
[51:46]
annual report from chc, it has
[51:48]
some very good tidbits in there
[51:50]
but I
[51:50]
but I know they are investing
[51:51]
into their current stock in the
[51:54]
county.
[51:54]
what I did notice is they do have
[51:57]
have some new builds, and none
[52:00]
of
[52:00]
of them happened to be in the county.
[52:02]
of them happened to be in the county.
[52:02]
so we do know the service
[52:04]
manager for housing was
[52:05]
scheduled to come to county
[52:07]
council on the 16th, and they
[52:09]
have now said they are not coming.
[52:11]
have now said they are not coming.
[52:11]
so I want to see all the work
[52:13]
they are doing, but I also think
[52:16]
it's
[52:16]
it's imperative for us as this
[52:18]
current council to reach out to
[52:19]
the service manager, city of
[52:21]
windsor because current council
[52:22]
asked many questions.
[52:23]
we have not got any answers when
[52:25]
it comes to housing.
[52:27]
on july 17th, I sent several
[52:30]
questions in as per the request
[52:33]
to discuss with the service
[52:35]
manager in advance.
[52:36]
I am wondering if there is
[52:39]
support to have questions sent
[52:41]
to
[52:41]
to the service manager by writing
[52:44]
writing and have them write back
[52:45]
to us.
[52:47]
I am looking to the warden and
[52:49]
cao for advice. I
[52:50]
I would like to get it on record
[52:52]
that
[52:52]
that I want them to look into the
[52:53]
the ratio of how people go into
[52:55]
housing, I want them to look
[52:57]
into what new builds are coming
[52:58]
into essex county, what are the
[53:00]
major investment projects coming
[53:02]
to
[53:02]
to the county, when social
[53:04]
housing reports go to city council
[53:05]
city council can we find them on
[53:06]
our county council agenda, what
[53:08]
is the distribution of housing
[53:10]
in
[53:10]
in the city versus the county,
[53:11]
and where
[53:11]
and where are the newest builds
[53:13]
located, and what is the last
[53:15]
housing wait-list review, and
[53:17]
this is the one that is almost
[53:19]
the most important -- what security
[53:21]
security measures are being put
[53:22]
in place for county units that
[53:25]
are
[53:25]
are experiencing an increase in
[53:27]
crime?
[53:27]
because people are getting put
[53:30]
in housing units in the county
[53:32]
without the proper supports, and
[53:34]
I get messages every single day,
[53:37]
almost every single hour, there
[53:39]
is a crime posted on
[53:41]
social media into the
[53:43]
municipality of essex due to
[53:44]
people put in housing without
[53:46]
the proper support.
[53:47]
this discussion has been pushed
[53:49]
and pushed, and it cannot wait
[53:52]
until 2027 because this council
[53:53]
has been asking residents
[53:55]
experiencing crime daily, because of
[53:57]
because of a lack of support
[53:57]
from the service manager at the
[53:59]
city of windsor, we cannot
[54:01]
wait.
[54:01]
I seek the advice from the cao
[54:03]
and
[54:03]
and warden on what can be done
[54:04]
in
[54:04]
in the current term of council
[54:06]
to address the housing issues we
[54:09]
have
[54:09]
have from the failed action from
[54:10]
the city of windsor service
[54:12]
manager. >>
[54:13]
>> three warden to county
[54:14]
council, so I would have no issue
[54:18]
issue taking your questions and
[54:19]
thank you councillor bondy for
[54:20]
forwarding them, kind of like a
[54:22]
last call for the rush to the
[54:23]
group if you have other questions
[54:25]
questions you would like to
[54:26]
include, then I kind of put them
[54:28]
together
[54:28]
together and we can send them in
[54:30]
writing to the city, and request
[54:33]
they
[54:33]
they respond in writing.
[54:35]
we can do that out of this
[54:37]
meeting.
[54:37]
just a comment about your
[54:39]
reference to crime and things
[54:42]
happening, really a reminder to
[54:44]
the public that if crimes are
[54:46]
being committed, posting them on
[54:48]
social media has no effect.
[54:50]
please contact the proper
[54:52]
authorities, call 911, call the
[54:55]
police, to make sure those items
[54:57]
are addressed, using
[55:00]
social media as another
[55:02]
channel.
[55:02]
not quite frankly is sending
[55:05]
them to us to put in writing to
[55:07]
the city.
[55:07]
those are serious issues and
[55:09]
let's respond accordingly, but
[55:11]
we can certainly put together a
[55:13]
written package and in
[55:14]
collaboration with our social
[55:17]
manager and director of
[55:20]
community services we can send
[55:21]
that to the city for a
[55:23]
response. >>
[55:24]
>> thank you, through you warden
[55:25]
macdonald, I want to thank our
[55:27]
ceo for taking the questions, that
[55:29]
that is greater.
[55:30]
I will continue to relay the
[55:31]
message to residents to call
[55:33]
police, many times they do call
[55:34]
police, the police do what they
[55:36]
can, the people go in jail and then
[55:38]
then they get let back out
[55:39]
because of the court system.
[55:41]
so the court system is failing
[55:43]
our residents.
[55:44]
and I also get calls on the
[55:46]
amount of calls per service and
[55:47]
our social housing, and it is through
[55:50]
through the roof.
[55:51]
from an opp calls per service
[55:52]
because we get billed calls per
[55:55]
service, we want people to call
[55:56]
the police but right now we are
[55:58]
reactive,
[55:58]
reactive, we are not proactive
[56:00]
in serving the needs of our community
[56:02]
community because the system
[56:03]
that the city of windsor service
[56:05]
manager has in place for how
[56:06]
people go in housing, is failing
[56:09]
all of us.
[56:10]
acid three or four times and I
[56:11]
will
[56:11]
will say it again, I encourage
[56:13]
county
[56:13]
county councillors to also
[56:15]
submit questions, I will go through
[56:17]
through the list more, but
[56:18]
something has to change and it
[56:20]
cannot keep waiting. >>
[56:24]
>> thank you.
[56:25]
any other correspondence you
[56:27]
want to pull out?
[56:29]
deputy mayor?
[56:30]
sorry, deputy warden?
[56:32]
>> thank you, through you
[56:34]
warden, a question I would like
[56:35]
to
[56:35]
to pull out, 10.1.5 and perhaps 10.1.3
[56:44]
10.1.3 I know we have the general
[56:45]
general manager of the windsor
[56:46]
essex conservation authority
[56:48]
here, on the correspondence it
[56:50]
gives timelines to be able to provide
[56:52]
provide input I believe,
[56:54]
september 14th, regarding the
[56:56]
western lake erie and transition
[56:58]
board
[56:58]
board that is being formed.
[57:00]
just if we can ask mr. Burney to
[57:02]
come
[57:02]
come up, I do have some questions
[57:04]
questions for him regarding this
[57:06]
correspondence. >> sounds
[57:07]
>> sounds good to me, tim do you
[57:09]
mind coming up?
[57:12]
there is a five minute rule,
[57:19]
just throwing that out there.
[57:20]
[laughter]
[57:20]
you know before the end of the
[57:22]
term I
[57:22]
term I had to do that.
[57:25]
>> thank you.
[57:27]
I would just like to start out,
[57:28]
I know that you have some
[57:32]
concerns of being a board member
[57:34]
on
[57:34]
on the windsor essex
[57:35]
conservation authority for many
[57:36]
years, I see the work that is
[57:39]
done and now with the transition
[57:41]
team
[57:41]
team that we see, in the other
[57:43]
correspondence with yourself and
[57:45]
the chair, what is going to
[57:49]
happen to things that we have in
[57:52]
place?
[57:52]
are we able to provide input --
[57:55]
the impact that our conservation
[57:57]
authority will have?
[57:58]
my concern is in terms of
[58:00]
affordability, who is going to
[58:02]
control the levy?
[58:04]
obviously the new board, and
[58:05]
have you seen any numbers going
[58:08]
into the future, what that may
[58:11]
entail?
[58:11]
because in terms of our region
[58:13]
here, essex region conservation
[58:16]
authority, we have been running
[58:17]
a lean machine in terms of making
[58:19]
making sure our local
[58:21]
municipalities come budget times
[58:24]
here -- what do you foresee, what
[58:25]
what are you hearing?
[58:27]
that is kind of a question, in
[58:29]
terms of the two correspondence
[58:30]
I would
[58:30]
I would like to make sure we
[58:31]
have the proper input.
[58:34]
>> thank you, through you
[58:36]
warden.
[58:36]
we have received some
[58:38]
information recently with
[58:40]
respect to the potential for
[58:44]
levy portion in a result of the
[58:46]
redistribution, as the
[58:48]
contributions always prided
[58:50]
themselves of being one of the
[58:51]
lowest, one-third of the 36
[58:54]
conservation authorities for
[58:56]
levy portions.
[58:57]
that has been kept low, we have applied
[58:59]
applied for a senior level
[59:01]
grant, ngo grants to support a
[59:03]
programmes and the operations of this
[59:08]
this organization.
[59:08]
at the moment the conservation
[59:11]
authorities levy apportioned on
[59:14]
operations is $18.58 per $300,000 household
[59:21]
$300,000 household based on the
[59:23]
modified evaluated assessment.
[59:26]
our nearest neighbour, levy
[59:29]
again is $300,000 assessment,
[59:32]
value is $32 per household.
[59:35]
the other predecessor
[59:39]
conservation authorities and the
[59:41]
new
[59:41]
new amalgamated group we
[59:42]
referred to as [unclear] will be
[59:46]
forcedwill be forced to operate
[59:49]
to with
[59:50]
an average levy apportionment
[59:51]
that operate will be a
[59:53]
that operate will be a
[59:53]
that operate will be a
[59:53]
significant
[59:54]
increase from what erca has been
[59:56]
able to offer the city of
[59:59]
windsor and other municipalities
[1:00:01]
of
[1:00:01]
of the county.
[1:00:02]
at this point in time, we are
[1:00:05]
anticipating over a $1 million
[1:00:08]
levy increase, just as a result
[1:00:12]
of the
[1:00:12]
of the redistribution going from
[1:00:16]
local appointment to a more
[1:00:19]
blended, regional level.
[1:00:20]
so windsor essex can be looking
[1:00:23]
at, without any budgetary
[1:00:25]
increase and anything else, a
[1:00:27]
redistribution of apportionment
[1:00:29]
increase and a levy by a million
[1:00:31]
dollars.
[1:00:31]
>> and that is why I want to
[1:00:36]
raise this point.
[1:00:38]
if this council is open to it,
[1:00:41]
just
[1:00:41]
just send a letter to a local
[1:00:44]
mpp who told us that this is a
[1:00:46]
good thing.
[1:00:47]
it is just redistributing, it is
[1:00:50]
making everybody stronger.
[1:00:51]
there are no changes.
[1:00:54]
but when these changes impact local
[1:00:56]
local municipalities in terms of
[1:00:58]
their tax levy, and we heard it
[1:00:59]
here with these changes, these
[1:01:01]
are huge numbers.
[1:01:03]
and I would like, perhaps, a response
[1:01:06]
response on how this is good
[1:01:08]
moving forward.
[1:01:08]
this whole restructuring, where
[1:01:10]
it is costing our local
[1:01:11]
taxpayers money in the end.
[1:01:13]
so I don't know if we can send
[1:01:15]
letter, but I would like a
[1:01:16]
response from our local mpps on
[1:01:18]
this, thank you.
[1:01:21]
>> I will support that letter.
[1:01:27]
>> that was my question.
[1:01:28]
so you want to make the motion
[1:01:30]
that we send a letter to our
[1:01:32]
local mpps in regards to the
[1:01:34]
conservation authority?
[1:01:36]
>> if you don't mind.
[1:01:37]
through you warden, if they can
[1:01:40]
draft the letter, I trust the
[1:01:42]
contents as basically the legend
[1:01:44]
is
[1:01:44]
is how this is good to justify
[1:01:48]
the million, correct.
[1:01:49]
thank you councillor.
[1:01:51]
>> it has been moved by deputy
[1:01:53]
warden and seconded by
[1:01:55]
councillor bondy, all in favour
[1:01:56]
of
[1:01:56]
of sending a letter?
[1:01:58]
opposed?
[1:01:58]
and that's carried.
[1:02:00]
thank you.
[1:02:01]
tim, thank you.
[1:02:04]
any other correspondence anyone
[1:02:06]
wants to pull out?
[1:02:09]
seeing none, there is a
[1:02:11]
recommendation that the correspondence
[1:02:12]
correspondence listed on the
[1:02:13]
regular agenda be received and
[1:02:15]
any noted action approved.
[1:02:18]
moved by councillor verbeke,
[1:02:21]
seconded by councillor gibb.
[1:02:22]
all in favour by show of hands?
[1:02:25]
opposed?
[1:02:25]
that is carried, thank you.
[1:02:29]
no resolutions this evening.
[1:02:31]
on consent agenda there are three
[1:02:33]
three items listed.
[1:02:34]
they are amendments of the essex
[1:02:37]
windsor solid waste authority
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board meeting.
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minutes of the windsor essex community
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community safety and well-being
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advisory
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advisory committee and
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outstanding matters report for
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september second.
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any questions for administration
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on
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on the matters listed on
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consent?
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seeing none, then the
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recommendation is that the
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minutes presented as items 11.1
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and 11.2 and the administrative
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report
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report listed as item 11.3 on
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the consent agenda be received
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as
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as information.
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moved by councillor mcnamara
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and seconded by councillor
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shepley.
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any discussion on the motion?
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I will ask you to vote
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electronically, please.
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and that is carried, thank you.
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we are on to reports and
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questions.
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the first report is the regional
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planning framework for
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artificial intelligence and high
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density data centres.
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for that report we have rebecca,
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manager of planning.
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rebecca?
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over to you.
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>> thank you warden,
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good evening.
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the report to county council this
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this evening is provided in
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response to the notice of motion
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directing
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directing administration to
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report back with the scope of
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work and resource requirements
[1:04:07]
needed to study the land use
[1:04:09]
planning policies related to ai
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data centres.
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should council direct
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administration to advance this
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regional study, the rfp can be ready
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ready to be completed by the end
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of september, with a draft report
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report addressing ai data centres
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centres planned to be ready
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during the first quarter of 2027.
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during the first quarter of 2027.
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due to the significant workload
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already in the planning department,
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department, it is recommended
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that a contract be pursued for the
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the specialized consultant
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services and that this perceived procurement
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procurement with a maximum upset
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limit of 150,000 to be funded through
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through the county's rate
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stabilization reserve.
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the report also summarizes the
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complex
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complex jurisdictional overlap
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and
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and addressing the approval process
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process relating to large scale
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ai data centres with the
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identification that the county
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rule is actually quite limited
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at the time that the report was
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under
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under preparation, the province
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then released the draft
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data center playbook on the
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environmental registry, seeking
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feedback with a deadline
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of september 12th.
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as noted in the report, the
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playbook is specifically a grid
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connection framework that
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outlines how the province will
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make grid connection decisions.
[1:05:28]
it contains specific guidance,
[1:05:31]
criteria
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criteria that must be met with
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new ai data centres to be
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approved for connection to the
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electricity grid.
[1:05:40]
only proposals that meet the
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strategic priority assessment
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pillars will be considered for
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approval.
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the final version of the
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playbook is intended to be
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available by the end of this
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year.
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pending county council's
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directions this evening, a response
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response will be prepared
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addressing the recommended
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comments in the report.
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and this response on the
[1:06:04]
playbook would be sent seeking
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further advocacy.
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the proposed correspondence also
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formally
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formally recommends a trilateral
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and
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and collaborative technical
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siting strategy.
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this concludes my comments on
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the report, but I would be
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pleased to answer any questions
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of county council. >>
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>> thank you rebecca.
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comments, questions? Councillor
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councillor waldstedt, we will
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start with you. >>
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>> thank you madam warden.
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I read the report in detail.
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I really don't see the advantage
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of
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of the county spending $150,000
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on a report or 90 to $150,000.
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and you mentioned the county's
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jurisdiction is somewhat
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limited.
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so I think this type of issue
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needs to be left up to the
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individual municipalities.
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I know lakeshore has already
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taken some action with a bylaw
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to delay -- I. Forget exactly what the
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what the terminology is.
[1:07:04]
to delay it for a year.
[1:07:05]
and then it can be extended
[1:07:07]
another year.
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that motion is already on the
[1:07:09]
floor at lakeshore.
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so I really don't see the necessity
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necessity or the need for the
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county to spend that kind of money
[1:07:18]
money in a rushed manner.
[1:07:21]
I'm sure the report would be
[1:07:23]
done properly, but I just don't
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see the benefit of spending 90 up
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up to $150,000 for something
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that will be, in this case, will
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be and should be left at the
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local level, thank you.
[1:07:38]
>> anyone else?
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councillor shepley?
[1:07:43]
>> through you madam warden.
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my understanding is the study that
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that we are going to have to do,
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you
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you will be looking at it from
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lens of our municipal for us,
[1:07:54]
not just broadly at the county
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level, we looked at it at what
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will be beneficial to all the
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municipalities of the area,
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correct?
[1:08:01]
>> through you warden, that is
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correct.
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the intent of the study will
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look at the county official
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plan, local official plans, the
[1:08:11]
specifics of your zoning bylaws,
[1:08:13]
your site plan control bylaw and
[1:08:16]
even
[1:08:16]
even recommendations relating to
[1:08:19]
other local bylaws.
[1:08:22]
there may be -- this is such a
[1:08:25]
specific land use and the
[1:08:26]
implications associated with this
[1:08:28]
this land use are something we
[1:08:29]
have never contemplated before.
[1:08:32]
so there may also be
[1:08:34]
recommendations for other local
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bylaws, updates to your bylaws.
[1:08:40]
>> thank you.
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>> thank you.
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further to that, I initially was
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of
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of the same opinion that broadly
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the county wouldn't be able to
[1:08:45]
do a whole lot if they looked at
[1:08:48]
it
[1:08:48]
it just from the county lens.
[1:08:50]
but I can support it on that and
[1:08:53]
at
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at the same time, we will still
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be
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be submitting those questions in
[1:08:58]
our
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our positions to the province for
[1:08:59]
for the 12th, -- correct?
[1:09:02]
>> through you warden, that is
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correct.
[1:09:04]
we would be putting together the
[1:09:06]
scope of work for the rfp for
[1:09:08]
the regional study.
[1:09:10]
at the same time, the drive
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letter, should we be directed
[1:09:14]
this evening to advance the
[1:09:16]
letter, it will be finalized
[1:09:19]
under the warden's signature and
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sent to amo for advocacy.
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there is a deadline
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of september 12th and it was
[1:09:27]
identified that the playbook is
[1:09:29]
intended
[1:09:29]
intended to be completed and finalized by
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finalized by the end of this
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year.
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so the sooner that letter goes
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in, the sooner there is
[1:09:37]
opportunity for consideration of those
[1:09:38]
those comments that are listed
[1:09:40]
in
[1:09:40]
in the report.
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as well as noted in the report,
[1:09:44]
we are, in addition to what is
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recommended in the playbook,
[1:09:48]
recommending consideration of a
[1:09:50]
trilateral strategy as well.
[1:09:54]
>> councillor deyong?
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>> thank you warden.
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I want to thank rebecca for the
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report.
[1:10:00]
I know there is probably more in
[1:10:02]
it than we started with because the
[1:10:04]
the playbook came out right in
[1:10:05]
the middle of our discussion.
[1:10:07]
I definitely agree with the study's
[1:10:09]
study's scope, I think you have
[1:10:11]
hit just everything in there and
[1:10:13]
it shows how little is actually
[1:10:14]
known
[1:10:14]
known about this, that we need
[1:10:17]
this
[1:10:17]
this information and it is not
[1:10:19]
easily attained right now.
[1:10:21]
and I appreciate the feedback letter
[1:10:23]
letter and just want to highlight
[1:10:24]
highlight that I think the most
[1:10:25]
important point is the
[1:10:27]
municipalities must be offered
[1:10:28]
a first
[1:10:29]
first right of refusal prior to
[1:10:30]
the province approving any grid
[1:10:31]
connections for this industry.
[1:10:35]
with respect to whether the idea
[1:10:38]
is we should start now or wait,
[1:10:40]
I think
[1:10:40]
I think that is the discussion
[1:10:41]
now.
[1:10:41]
now.
[1:10:41]
whether it makes sense to wait
[1:10:43]
until the playbook comes out and
[1:10:44]
figure out what municipalities
[1:10:46]
can do, or start the study and
[1:10:52]
have
[1:10:52]
have something in our back
[1:10:53]
pockets before this may become
[1:10:55]
something
[1:10:55]
something that we now have to
[1:10:56]
fight against.
[1:10:57]
and I thought about that since
[1:10:59]
reading the report and I think
[1:11:02]
we are kind of in a bit of a fortunate
[1:11:04]
fortunate situation that we can
[1:11:05]
get a little bit ahead of it.
[1:11:06]
the province hasn't decided exactly
[1:11:08]
exactly what they will do yet.
[1:11:09]
we can get comments and start the
[1:11:11]
the study and then when we are
[1:11:13]
ready to assert something, we will
[1:11:15]
will actually know what it is we
[1:11:16]
need
[1:11:16]
need to assert.
[1:11:17]
and right now we don't.
[1:11:18]
and in terms of each
[1:11:20]
municipality doing their own
[1:11:21]
thing, anyone who wants to put
[1:11:22]
in an interim control bylaw, which
[1:11:25]
which some may want to do that,
[1:11:26]
that
[1:11:26]
that requires a study.
[1:11:27]
you cannot put an interim
[1:11:29]
control bylaw without a study.
[1:11:31]
so I think the fact that the county
[1:11:32]
county can do that on behalf of
[1:11:34]
everyone makes sense to me.
[1:11:36]
so I do appreciate your work here
[1:11:38]
here and I will support the
[1:11:39]
recommendation that we go
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forward.
[1:11:41]
thank you.
[1:11:43]
>> councillor prue?
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>> on a similar vein, I want to
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make sure that whatever company
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we
[1:11:49]
we hire to do this study, they
[1:11:51]
will do the study on behalf of the
[1:11:53]
the whole county.
[1:11:55]
and then they will make
[1:11:57]
recommendations to the
[1:11:58]
municipalities.
[1:11:58]
or if the municipalities are
[1:12:01]
involved later on in having some
[1:12:04]
corporation say they want ai,
[1:12:06]
will that same group be able to
[1:12:08]
advise the county through your
[1:12:13]
office and have that transfer to
[1:12:14]
any of the municipalities so that
[1:12:16]
that they can prepare their
[1:12:17]
bylaws?
[1:12:17]
I just want to make sure, because
[1:12:20]
because if that is the thing,
[1:12:21]
this is essential.
[1:12:24]
>> through you warden, the
[1:12:26]
intent of the scope of work is
[1:12:28]
to get into the weeds of looking
[1:12:29]
at your official plans, your
[1:12:32]
zoning bylaws.
[1:12:33]
you are going to look at your
[1:12:35]
weather municipal bylaws and see
[1:12:37]
how they could be updated and be
[1:12:41]
a resource at such a time that
[1:12:43]
data center comes forward, that
[1:12:44]
you are already ready for it.
[1:12:46]
coming out of this study, there
[1:12:48]
will be implementation that will
[1:12:50]
need
[1:12:50]
need to happen at the local
[1:12:52]
level.
[1:12:52]
if there are recommendations
[1:12:55]
coming out of this that the
[1:12:58]
zoning bylaw very likely needs
[1:13:00]
some updates, the local planning
[1:13:02]
department will then have to go
[1:13:05]
away and run a form of a zoning
[1:13:07]
bylaw amendment, possibly an
[1:13:09]
official plan amendment, updates
[1:13:11]
to
[1:13:11]
to the site plan control bylaws
[1:13:13]
as some examples.
[1:13:14]
so there will be local
[1:13:15]
implementation when we are doing
[1:13:17]
this study.
[1:13:18]
>> I just want to make sure that
[1:13:20]
the
[1:13:20]
the whole thing that the local
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does will be predicated on what
[1:13:23]
the county has said and what has
[1:13:27]
been
[1:13:27]
been recommended.
[1:13:28]
>> through you, warden, I have
[1:13:31]
already talked to the municipal
[1:13:33]
planners,
[1:13:33]
planners, they are fully informed.
[1:13:35]
planners, they are fully informed.
[1:13:35]
I met with them last week.
[1:13:37]
they will be a part of the
[1:13:39]
planning steering committee, they
[1:13:40]
they have already received the
[1:13:42]
report that
[1:13:42]
report that is in front
[1:13:43]
of county council this evening.
[1:13:45]
they will be at the table all
[1:13:46]
the way throughout the process.
[1:13:49]
>> I thank you very much.
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then I will support the report
[1:13:52]
as well.
[1:13:54]
>> councillor bailey?
[1:13:56]
>> thank you warden, through
[1:13:58]
you, I was very thrilled with
[1:13:59]
the report.
[1:14:00]
and in particular some of the advocacy
[1:14:02]
advocacy that will be able to go
[1:14:03]
in.
[1:14:03]
in.
[1:14:03]
in particular, related to the grid
[1:14:05]
grid connections.
[1:14:06]
because we see these things
[1:14:07]
happen in the community all the
[1:14:09]
time.
[1:14:09]
time.
[1:14:09]
I was really happy about that.
[1:14:13]
councillor deyong, you took most
[1:14:14]
of
[1:14:14]
of what I was going to say
[1:14:16]
because I also had in my notes
[1:14:17]
the
[1:14:17]
the things that you stated, I won't
[1:14:19]
won't state those things again.
[1:14:21]
I am highly supportive of the
[1:14:23]
report pending, in fact
[1:14:24]
lakeshore did table a motion for
[1:14:26]
the interim control bylaw and will
[1:14:29]
will proceed through that process
[1:14:30]
process and into the
[1:14:31]
moratorium. And
[1:14:31]
and it is pending the
[1:14:34]
collaboration with the county in the
[1:14:36]
the development and
[1:14:37]
implementation of this report,
[1:14:38]
thank you for that.
[1:14:41]
>> councillor mcnamara?
[1:14:44]
>> thank you madam warden.
[1:14:47]
one of the concerns that I have
[1:14:48]
as well is that -- and you
[1:14:51]
alluded to councillor deyong,
[1:14:55]
you said at amo, when the
[1:14:57]
premier was speaking and this was
[1:14:59]
was part of his speech, talked
[1:15:02]
about data centres and so
[1:15:04]
forth.
[1:15:04]
and it didn't give me a lot of
[1:15:07]
confidence in terms of the
[1:15:09]
direction that the province is
[1:15:11]
going.
[1:15:11]
and I think this is a critical
[1:15:13]
stage for us, because this is
[1:15:15]
new, as you alluded to.
[1:15:19]
and we have to find some sort of
[1:15:25]
baseline for all municipalities
[1:15:26]
in
[1:15:26]
in the region because you certainly don't
[1:15:28]
certainly don't want to be
[1:15:28]
pitting one against the other when
[1:15:30]
when they are trying to find
[1:15:34]
areas of, in their mind, where
[1:15:37]
they should be placed and so
[1:15:39]
forth, to have some sort of a standard
[1:15:42]
standard bylaw or rules of
[1:15:43]
engagement, known exactly in
[1:15:46]
terms of the power requirements,
[1:15:48]
water and everything that goes
[1:15:51]
into the requirements of data centres.
[1:15:53]
into the requirements of data centres.
[1:15:53]
at least there's a standard
[1:15:55]
within our region and so forth.
[1:15:57]
I think it buys us a bit of
[1:15:58]
time, because obviously the
[1:16:02]
province -- would be interested
[1:16:03]
enough to see what the province
[1:16:05]
has come down in terms of
[1:16:07]
regulations that they are
[1:16:09]
proposing.
[1:16:09]
but there really was no real
[1:16:13]
direction.
[1:16:13]
it was well, we can go this way
[1:16:16]
or we
[1:16:16]
or we can go that way.
[1:16:19]
and so it didn't send a comfort
[1:16:21]
level
[1:16:21]
level in terms of a lot of the
[1:16:24]
municipal delegates that were
[1:16:25]
sitting in the room.
[1:16:26]
so I think I will be supporting,
[1:16:28]
obviously, the recommendation.
[1:16:30]
because it does make sense.
[1:16:32]
it gives us time and to put something
[1:16:33]
something that I think is critical
[1:16:35]
critical that all municipalities
[1:16:38]
will at least have a great template
[1:16:40]
template in terms of what we
[1:16:41]
should and shouldn't do.
[1:16:44]
>> and we will be sharing the
[1:16:47]
cost of that study as well,
[1:16:49]
amongst the seven of us.
[1:16:51]
councillor akpata?
[1:16:52]
>> thank you madam warden and
[1:16:53]
through you. I
[1:16:54]
I had a question from a resident
[1:16:56]
who read this and loved it.
[1:16:57]
they said kudos to you and some
[1:17:00]
very nice things.
[1:17:01]
the question is, from start to
[1:17:03]
finish -- and you may not be able to
[1:17:04]
able to answer this because I didn't
[1:17:05]
didn't want to jump into it.
[1:17:07]
if, for some reason, the
[1:17:08]
legislation changes and these
[1:17:11]
things are mandated, they said
[1:17:14]
you shall.
[1:17:14]
what happens to what we are
[1:17:15]
working on? That
[1:17:16]
that is a question they asked me
[1:17:20]
me.
[1:17:20]
me.
[1:17:20]
>> through you warden, I hate to
[1:17:24]
say this, we will have to see.
[1:17:26]
this will be helpful
[1:17:28]
information, no matter what.
[1:17:30]
hopefully useful information.
[1:17:32]
however, if it comes down that
[1:17:35]
they are mandated, we will have
[1:17:36]
to
[1:17:36]
to consider our options at that
[1:17:39]
point.
[1:17:39]
point.
[1:17:39]
but presently our documents or
[1:17:43]
official plans and zoning bylaws
[1:17:44]
don't
[1:17:44]
don't address them at all.
[1:17:47]
because we have never
[1:17:48]
complicated something like
[1:17:50]
this.
[1:17:50]
so no matter what cactus is helpful
[1:17:53]
helpful information for us.
[1:17:55]
but we will have to see what
[1:17:56]
approach we take if they come
[1:17:57]
down in the mandate.
[1:18:00]
>> and supplemental, madam
[1:18:02]
warden, the group that contacted
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do
[1:18:06]
do not want them.
[1:18:08]
they want to make sure that as
[1:18:11]
was described, a travelling road
[1:18:12]
show going throughout the county
[1:18:13]
so that folks would be able to
[1:18:15]
travel within their own
[1:18:16]
municipality or others to bring
[1:18:19]
forth
[1:18:19]
forth directly to the
[1:18:19]
consultants.
[1:18:19]
and again, not knowing just want to
[1:18:23]
to make sure that is something
[1:18:24]
that the public would be invited
[1:18:26]
across
[1:18:26]
across municipalities to bring
[1:18:27]
forth comments and attend.
[1:18:28]
and I want to make sure I don't
[1:18:30]
want to speak on behalf of you.
[1:18:33]
>> thank you warden.
[1:18:35]
addressing comments and
[1:18:37]
concerns, the comments that we
[1:18:38]
will be submitting back on the
[1:18:41]
playbook factor around and look
[1:18:44]
at building monitoring, ensuring
[1:18:48]
there is protections for
[1:18:50]
municipalities and community
[1:18:54]
benefits.
[1:18:54]
so a lot of the clarifications
[1:18:55]
that will be addressed back in
[1:18:58]
the response back to the
[1:19:01]
province, just seek greater
[1:19:04]
clarification on that.
[1:19:07]
the study that we are about to
[1:19:09]
initiate does involve
[1:19:10]
significant public
[1:19:11]
consultation.
[1:19:11]
they will be invited all the way
[1:19:13]
along as part of this process.
[1:19:16]
as well, one of the
[1:19:18]
recommendations in response to
[1:19:20]
the playbook is proponents of
[1:19:23]
data centres also go through a public
[1:19:25]
public engagement process of
[1:19:27]
their own.
[1:19:29]
so they -- this is one of the
[1:19:31]
recommendations we will put forward.
[1:19:33]
recommendations we will put forward.
[1:19:33]
they are required to also host
[1:19:34]
public meetings prior to any
[1:19:36]
commitments for data centres and
[1:19:37]
communities.
[1:19:37]
>> thank you madam warden.
[1:19:41]
it was obvious to me but I didn't
[1:19:42]
didn't want to speak without
[1:19:43]
speaking to you first, thank you
[1:19:45]
madam warden.
[1:19:47]
>> councillor gibb?
[1:19:48]
>> thank you madam warden,
[1:19:49]
through you.
[1:19:51]
there are times where several
[1:19:53]
individual municipalities and there
[1:19:55]
there are times where we are one county.
[1:19:56]
there are times where we are one county.
[1:19:56]
this is one of those times where
[1:19:58]
we
[1:19:58]
we are one county.
[1:20:00]
you know, the federal government
[1:20:02]
is moving extremely fast on
[1:20:05]
certain projects.
[1:20:06]
the provincial government, from the
[1:20:10]
the way it sounds in the report,
[1:20:11]
I will use the term it sounds
[1:20:12]
like they are flying by the seat
[1:20:14]
of
[1:20:14]
of their pants with this
[1:20:16]
playbook.
[1:20:16]
there are so many times we sit
[1:20:19]
around this horseshoe and we
[1:20:21]
react to things.
[1:20:22]
I think this is an excellent
[1:20:24]
opportunity to be proactive and say
[1:20:26]
say to our residents, you know
[1:20:28]
what?
[1:20:28]
what?
[1:20:28]
we hear you, we need to find out
[1:20:30]
answers as well.
[1:20:33]
I think this is money well
[1:20:34]
spent, it makes no sense to have
[1:20:37]
seven
[1:20:37]
seven municipalities spent $750,000 when
[1:20:38]
$750,000 when we can do this for
[1:20:40]
everyone.
[1:20:40]
so I am absolutely supportive of
[1:20:43]
this, I think it is proactive
[1:20:45]
governance and I hope that it
[1:20:47]
passes tonight.
[1:20:50]
>> anyone else? Councillor
[1:20:52]
councillor waldstedt?
[1:20:53]
>> thank you madam warden.
[1:20:54]
maybe I'm reading this wrong, my concern
[1:20:56]
concern is that at the end of the
[1:20:57]
the day, I haven't spoken to
[1:21:00]
anyone in lakeshore and a lot of
[1:21:02]
municipalities.
[1:21:02]
it's just a blanket no.
[1:21:04]
my concern is that we spend the
[1:21:07]
money
[1:21:07]
money on this report and $150,000
[1:21:11]
$150,000 is $150,000.
[1:21:12]
but at the end of the day, if one of the
[1:21:16]
one of the conclusions possibly at
[1:21:18]
at the end of the report, these are
[1:21:19]
are all the negative things that
[1:21:22]
is wrong with these and that we
[1:21:23]
don't like.
[1:21:24]
which we already know, most of
[1:21:29]
us.
[1:21:29]
us.
[1:21:29]
my concern is if there will be some
[1:21:30]
some kind of reference in there
[1:21:32]
that, well, there is a lot wrong
[1:21:34]
with these but this municipality
[1:21:38]
has better land suited for it
[1:21:40]
than this municipality,
[1:21:42]
therefore maybe lakeshore is a better
[1:21:43]
better fit than say lasalle or
[1:21:44]
amherstburg or something like that.
[1:21:46]
amherstburg or something like that.
[1:21:46]
I don't want to pay $150,000 for
[1:21:48]
that.
[1:21:48]
because unequivocally, I want to
[1:21:53]
say no, we don't want them.
[1:21:54]
end of this report is going to
[1:21:59]
substantiate and confirm what the
[1:22:02]
the gentleman at the last
[1:22:04]
meeting gave us, then I am fine
[1:22:06]
with that.
[1:22:07]
but I don't want it to end up,
[1:22:10]
as
[1:22:10]
as many of us said here, playing
[1:22:14]
one
[1:22:14]
one against the other.
[1:22:14]
I think that's why a lot of us
[1:22:15]
would be supporting the report,
[1:22:17]
so
[1:22:17]
so that doesn't happen.
[1:22:19]
but is there a possibility that
[1:22:21]
could happen in the conclusion
[1:22:23]
or the results of the report?
[1:22:27]
>> through you warden, there are
[1:22:29]
two
[1:22:29]
two things going on here.
[1:22:31]
one is recommendation of a
[1:22:34]
trilateral collaborative siting
[1:22:38]
strategy
[1:22:38]
strategy that the
[1:22:38]
municipalities, the province and
[1:22:40]
the federal government would all
[1:22:40]
be a part of.
[1:22:42]
and that would determine, based
[1:22:45]
on the
[1:22:45]
on the objectives of the federal
[1:22:46]
and
[1:22:46]
and provincial government,
[1:22:48]
working towards data sovereignty
[1:22:51]
sovereignty.
[1:22:51]
sovereignty.
[1:22:51]
that would look at the reality
[1:22:52]
that data centres are coming to
[1:22:54]
canada and where they can be most
[1:22:56]
most appropriately located to
[1:22:58]
accomplish objectives, as noted
[1:23:02]
in the
[1:23:02]
in the report with the least
[1:23:04]
environmental impacts.
[1:23:05]
that is one of the main
[1:23:07]
recommendations coming out of
[1:23:09]
this.
[1:23:09]
the other is that we don't have
[1:23:12]
inappropriate land use planning
[1:23:14]
framework and essex county to
[1:23:16]
consider a data center right
[1:23:18]
now.
[1:23:18]
so the scope of work this
[1:23:24]
evening is we need this land use
[1:23:26]
planning framework to process and
[1:23:28]
and consider what types of
[1:23:30]
policies you need in your plans
[1:23:33]
to consider the land use. What
[1:23:34]
what are the other protections
[1:23:36]
and
[1:23:36]
and regulations and bylaws that
[1:23:39]
you need, should a data center
[1:23:41]
proponent come forward, that
[1:23:42]
will help you to process this as
[1:23:44]
well. That
[1:23:44]
that is the other objective.
[1:23:48]
>> further -- >> I guess
[1:23:50]
>> I guess the term I like to use
[1:23:51]
use is I just don't want to see
[1:23:53]
us lean
[1:23:53]
us lean into a left hook.
[1:23:56]
basically because -- perhaps you
[1:23:58]
couldn't
[1:23:58]
couldn't answer my question, but
[1:24:00]
I know
[1:24:00]
I know you want to look at all
[1:24:02]
of the
[1:24:02]
of the parameters and
[1:24:03]
infrastructure and everything
[1:24:04]
from the municipalities.
[1:24:05]
but I'm still concerned in the
[1:24:07]
end that if it's 100% no we
[1:24:11]
don't want these but yet the
[1:24:13]
report comes back and says it
[1:24:15]
would be a better fit here or
[1:24:17]
here, are you telling me that is
[1:24:21]
a possibility or it's not?
[1:24:23]
if it's not a possibility and the
[1:24:25]
the report is going to say these
[1:24:26]
are the reasons why it wouldn't
[1:24:27]
fit in essex county or any of the
[1:24:30]
the municipalities, and all of the
[1:24:32]
the detriment and problems that
[1:24:33]
it will cause like the last
[1:24:35]
meeting, then I'm okay with it
[1:24:38]
but I don't want to pay that money
[1:24:40]
money and have any cracks left
[1:24:42]
in
[1:24:42]
in the wall if somebody is going
[1:24:43]
to crawl through with an ai
[1:24:47]
business, thank you.
[1:24:48]
>> I believe madam cao, you
[1:24:50]
would like to answer?
[1:24:52]
>> there is nothing in the scope
[1:24:54]
of
[1:24:54]
of recommendation for this
[1:24:55]
report that seeks to evaluate
[1:24:58]
acceptable sites within the
[1:24:59]
county of essex.
[1:25:02]
so the answer is no to your
[1:25:03]
question and a confirmation that
[1:25:05]
nothing in the list and scope of
[1:25:07]
this report has the intent to waive
[1:25:11]
waive municipalities, way better
[1:25:13]
locations,
[1:25:13]
locations, that is not the
[1:25:14]
intent of this report at all.
[1:25:17]
>> thank you.
[1:25:20]
councillor deyong?
[1:25:21]
>> maybe you are ready for a motion
[1:25:23]
motion and if you are, I would
[1:25:24]
like to move -- >> I
[1:25:26]
>> I want to read it because it
[1:25:27]
is rather lengthy but then I
[1:25:28]
will come to you first, how does
[1:25:30]
that sound?
[1:25:30]
>> perfect. >>
[1:25:33]
>> it be received for
[1:25:35]
information that council endures
[1:25:40]
the
[1:25:40]
the correspondence to the
[1:25:40]
province of ontario as contained
[1:25:43]
in report number 20260902ipsr ten rlb.
[1:25:48]
in report number 20260902ipsr ten rlb.
[1:25:48]
the framework for artificial
[1:25:50]
intelligence, ai, high density
[1:25:53]
data centres
[1:25:53]
data centres and be authorized
[1:25:55]
to submit responses that may arise
[1:25:58]
arise from any bills or related
[1:26:00]
regulations.
[1:26:00]
and to forward the report and in
[1:26:07]
a letter, seeking consideration
[1:26:09]
of
[1:26:09]
of the county's feedback and
[1:26:10]
expressing support for the advocacy
[1:26:12]
advocacy position to establish
[1:26:16]
trilateral siting strategy
[1:26:18]
supporting the meaningful
[1:26:19]
inclusion of municipalities and
[1:26:21]
the
[1:26:21]
the evaluation and
[1:26:22]
approval/denial for large scale
[1:26:24]
data centres and request the
[1:26:26]
delay in finalizing the playbook
[1:26:28]
to address identified concerns,
[1:26:31]
including the necessary legal
[1:26:32]
mechanisms for the protection of
[1:26:34]
residents and the environment host
[1:26:37]
host communities.
[1:26:37]
and that council authorize funding
[1:26:39]
funding from the rate
[1:26:41]
stabilization reserve of up to
[1:26:44]
$150,000 for
[1:26:44]
$150,000 for completion of a
[1:26:45]
county specific study on the
[1:26:47]
framework for artificial
[1:26:49]
intelligence ai and high density
[1:26:52]
data centres.
[1:26:53]
and that is moved by councillor
[1:26:57]
deyong
[1:26:57]
deyong seconded by councillor
[1:26:59]
meloche.
[1:26:59]
any further discussion?
[1:27:02]
voting electronically?
[1:27:05]
I will ask you to vote
[1:27:06]
electronically, please.
[1:27:10]
and that is carried unanimously,
[1:27:25]
thank you.
[1:27:27]
on to council procedure by law and
[1:27:30]
and governance review.
[1:27:31]
for that report we turn to
[1:27:34]
catherine, our clerk.
[1:27:35]
over to you.
[1:27:37]
>> thank you warden.
[1:27:39]
and county council, I have several
[1:27:41]
several pages of notes here to go
[1:27:42]
go over with you tonight, so I
[1:27:43]
hope that you are bracing
[1:27:45]
themselves for a long one.
[1:27:49]
so with regards to council
[1:27:51]
procedure bylaw and review, I just
[1:27:52]
just wanted to talk a bit about
[1:27:53]
why
[1:27:53]
why this is before council this
[1:27:55]
evening.
[1:27:55]
county administration engaged
[1:27:58]
in
[1:27:58]
in governance trading which provided
[1:27:59]
provided recommendations and best
[1:28:01]
best practices for streamlining
[1:28:02]
the
[1:28:02]
the governance procedures for
[1:28:04]
council and for administration.
[1:28:06]
over the current term of
[1:28:08]
council, there have been some
[1:28:10]
changes, some lessons learned,
[1:28:12]
some
[1:28:12]
some pinch points highlighted as
[1:28:14]
well as perhaps most notably, the
[1:28:16]
the development of the county's
[1:28:18]
first
[1:28:18]
first ever strategic plan.
[1:28:21]
attendance at each of your local
[1:28:25]
council meetings with the cao
[1:28:27]
and the clerk, and the warden,
[1:28:30]
feedback
[1:28:30]
feedback gained over the course
[1:28:31]
of the
[1:28:31]
of the term as well as through
[1:28:33]
seven
[1:28:33]
seven engagement sessions with
[1:28:34]
each of you and most of your
[1:28:36]
alternates.
[1:28:36]
the governance review team has
[1:28:38]
been able to find some
[1:28:40]
commonality among your
[1:28:41]
suggestions on how to improve
[1:28:43]
procedures, meeting flow, support
[1:28:46]
support mechanisms and
[1:28:46]
communication in order for
[1:28:48]
council to be well served by
[1:28:51]
government documents, bylaws and policies
[1:28:53]
policies as well as county
[1:28:54]
administration.
[1:28:54]
so what has changed and why?
[1:28:58]
the procedure bylaw has some
[1:29:01]
changes, most being minor in
[1:29:03]
nature, which have not been
[1:29:04]
extensively outlined in the
[1:29:06]
report.
[1:29:06]
instead we have focused on the
[1:29:09]
most
[1:29:09]
most significant changes.
[1:29:10]
one being ease of use.
[1:29:13]
significant reordering of the
[1:29:14]
bylaw to reduce duplication, improve
[1:29:18]
improve findability and minimize
[1:29:19]
the potential for
[1:29:20]
misunderstanding.
[1:29:20]
two, aligning reality with policy.
[1:29:25]
two, aligning reality with policy.
[1:29:25]
so removal of outdated language
[1:29:27]
and out of practice clauses,
[1:29:29]
adding language in to formalize
[1:29:32]
current practices.
[1:29:32]
three, agenda reordering.
[1:29:35]
adding sections and realigning
[1:29:37]
sections to improve the flow of meetings
[1:29:39]
meetings and to reduce the need
[1:29:40]
for multiple motions for
[1:29:42]
information items.
[1:29:45]
and four, updating election
[1:29:47]
procedures, providing council with
[1:29:48]
with modernized and transparent
[1:29:51]
format for the meeting,
[1:29:52]
including the election of the
[1:29:54]
warden.
[1:29:54]
with the delegation policy, it
[1:29:57]
was updated to align with
[1:29:58]
suggestions and feedback
[1:29:59]
received by the majority of
[1:30:00]
members of council during our
[1:30:02]
governance sessions.
[1:30:05]
provisions of clear parameters
[1:30:06]
for which delegations may appear
[1:30:09]
that align with the county scope
[1:30:10]
and with council's ability to
[1:30:12]
address the matters before
[1:30:13]
them.
[1:30:13]
allocation of 5 minutes, rather
[1:30:17]
than ten, for standard
[1:30:18]
delegations, defining that
[1:30:21]
presentations will be considered
[1:30:22]
outside of the parameters of the
[1:30:24]
delegation policy when invited
[1:30:25]
by council, however compliance
[1:30:27]
with decorum policies and
[1:30:28]
procedures is required.
[1:30:32]
highlighting that council may
[1:30:33]
elect to dispense with the specific
[1:30:35]
specific condition of that policy
[1:30:36]
policy with a motion to suspend
[1:30:37]
the
[1:30:37]
the rules of the procedure
[1:30:39]
bylaw.
[1:30:39]
several policies were reviewed,
[1:30:43]
including public conduct,
[1:30:44]
visitor and trespass policies,
[1:30:46]
these were revised to soften the language
[1:30:48]
language and to ensure that the
[1:30:50]
county is not infringing on
[1:30:51]
freedom of expression
[1:30:53]
unreasonably, while maintaining
[1:30:55]
clear
[1:30:55]
clear safety, security and
[1:30:57]
decorum positions.
[1:30:59]
the council report got a refresh
[1:31:01]
and is included as an appendix,
[1:31:04]
as
[1:31:04]
as is a new tool, which is the
[1:31:06]
addition of a notice of motion
[1:31:08]
impact
[1:31:08]
impact assessment form, which is
[1:31:10]
intended to help council make decisions
[1:31:13]
decisions and pivot as necessary
[1:31:15]
with a notice of motion at the
[1:31:17]
last
[1:31:17]
last minute.
[1:31:19]
other matters considered during
[1:31:20]
these feedback sessions were
[1:31:22]
related to technology changes,
[1:31:24]
training and development for
[1:31:26]
council and administration, alternate
[1:31:29]
alternate members of council,
[1:31:30]
roles and responsibilities,
[1:31:32]
communication and referrals for
[1:31:35]
the strategic planning process.
[1:31:37]
the governance review team,
[1:31:39]
which is comprised of dave,
[1:31:43]
claire, sylvester and myself, we would
[1:31:45]
would like to thank you all for
[1:31:47]
your
[1:31:47]
your participation in the
[1:31:48]
governance review process.
[1:31:50]
members of council and your
[1:31:51]
alternates.
[1:31:51]
we are confident that we have provided
[1:31:55]
provided council with
[1:31:56]
recommendations and provisions
[1:31:58]
to the
[1:31:58]
to the government's documents on
[1:31:59]
which council can rely as their
[1:32:02]
foundation for
[1:32:02]
foundation for accountable,
[1:32:02]
transparent and fair governing.
[1:32:05]
the changes are elaborated upon
[1:32:08]
in
[1:32:08]
in detail and I will not go through
[1:32:09]
through them all.
[1:32:10]
but council was provided it in
[1:32:12]
advance of the typical
[1:32:13]
publishing schedule to allow for
[1:32:16]
a thorough review.
[1:32:18]
what administration is proposing
[1:32:20]
is
[1:32:20]
is contained in the
[1:32:20]
recommendation on page 11 of the report
[1:32:22]
report and I am prepared to
[1:32:23]
answer any questions if council
[1:32:25]
has any.
[1:32:26]
>> thank you kate. I
[1:32:28]
I will start with you,
[1:32:29]
councillor shepley.
[1:32:31]
>> first of all I want to
[1:32:32]
thank you for having those
[1:32:34]
governments, the changes we would
[1:32:36]
would like to see, I can see
[1:32:37]
that reflected in the report.
[1:32:41]
and I fully support it and
[1:32:42]
appreciate all the effort you
[1:32:43]
put into this.
[1:32:46]
>> that's it?
[1:32:49]
okay.
[1:32:49]
councillor deyong?
[1:32:51]
>> I just want to highlight that decrease
[1:32:53]
decrease in time from ten to
[1:32:55]
5 minutes.
[1:32:56]
is this where council can use the
[1:32:57]
the motion to put the policy
[1:32:59]
aside to allow someone to finish if
[1:33:00]
if they were going over that
[1:33:02]
5 minutes?
[1:33:03]
>> yes, through you warden, the
[1:33:06]
motion to suspend the rules can
[1:33:08]
be supplied to a very specific
[1:33:10]
rule
[1:33:10]
rule that is being implied.
[1:33:13]
so if there is a moment where council
[1:33:14]
council would like to waive the
[1:33:15]
rules to extend a time.
[1:33:17]
or a specific delegation to
[1:33:19]
continue to speak, you can do so
[1:33:20]
at that time.
[1:33:24]
>> councillor bailey?
[1:33:27]
>> thank you.
[1:33:28]
and through you, I am wondering
[1:33:32]
what
[1:33:32]
what the current number of days
[1:33:34]
is for nonagenda items.
[1:33:37]
my concern is that there seems
[1:33:38]
to be a shift -- and I
[1:33:39]
appreciate the consultation, I quite
[1:33:41]
quite enjoyed it.
[1:33:42]
I also think that the report is
[1:33:44]
very
[1:33:44]
very comprehensive and took a lot
[1:33:45]
lot to kind of integrate a lot
[1:33:47]
of
[1:33:47]
of different things. I
[1:33:48]
I just want to say thank you for
[1:33:49]
that.
[1:33:49]
one of the areas that I found lacking
[1:33:52]
lacking though was that
[1:33:53]
residents need reasonable access
[1:33:55]
to
[1:33:55]
to council and I am worried that
[1:33:56]
this really shifts the balance
[1:33:59]
of
[1:33:59]
of governance.
[1:34:00]
so moving to 20 business days to
[1:34:04]
a resident
[1:34:04]
a resident seems like a long time.
[1:34:05]
a resident seems like a long time.
[1:34:05]
what is it currently?
[1:34:09]
>> are you referring to the
[1:34:12]
delegation application?
[1:34:14]
>> yes, I am referring to the
[1:34:17]
shortening of the delegations
[1:34:18]
requiring 20 business days for
[1:34:20]
nonagenda matters.
[1:34:23]
>> currently there is not a
[1:34:28]
requirement for a delegation to
[1:34:30]
be speaking to a specific agenda
[1:34:32]
item.
[1:34:32]
item.
[1:34:32]
they can speak to any item at any time
[1:34:35]
any time that is within the
[1:34:35]
scope of county council.
[1:34:39]
>> thank you. So
[1:34:42]
so that I understand that a
[1:34:43]
little better, right now there
[1:34:44]
is no set time at all and what
[1:34:46]
we are doing is going to be
[1:34:48]
setting 20 days?
[1:34:50]
so we are going from no notice
[1:34:52]
to 20 days?
[1:34:55]
>> the notice would be the same
[1:34:57]
notice for any delegation.
[1:35:00]
so the current delegation policy
[1:35:04]
says you have to apply within --
[1:35:07]
after the agenda is published,
[1:35:09]
you have two days here with the
[1:35:13]
clause. But
[1:35:13]
but it is not different for a
[1:35:15]
nonagenda item.
[1:35:18]
>> thank you for that.
[1:35:19]
I think what I'm understanding
[1:35:21]
is that now it would be 20
[1:35:24]
days.
[1:35:24]
so something happens for
[1:35:26]
residents, it is concerning and
[1:35:28]
it
[1:35:28]
it is a 20 day wait before that
[1:35:30]
can happen in terms of being
[1:35:32]
addressed at county. So
[1:35:34]
so that was the only thing I
[1:35:35]
really pulled out that I thought
[1:35:37]
residents deserve access to the people
[1:35:39]
people that are sitting around
[1:35:40]
the table and it needs to be
[1:35:42]
more than them calling one of the
[1:35:44]
the mayors and the mayor
[1:35:46]
creating hoopla.
[1:35:48]
this 20 days seems to be
[1:35:50]
encouraging that kind of mayoral
[1:35:55]
or deputy mayor reaction, rather
[1:35:58]
than
[1:35:58]
than encouraging that maybe I
[1:36:00]
could have those residents reach
[1:36:01]
out to administration and have
[1:36:03]
discussion with administration.
[1:36:06]
maybe it goes away there and
[1:36:07]
they don't end up here.
[1:36:08]
but I would really like a way to
[1:36:09]
be
[1:36:09]
be able to say it doesn't take
[1:36:13]
20 days
[1:36:13]
20 days when something is urgent
[1:36:14]
to you.
[1:36:14]
to you.
[1:36:14]
you don't often see folks coming and I
[1:36:15]
and I know we set aside the rules
[1:36:17]
rules and say I'd like to make a
[1:36:18]
motion for so-and-so to speak.
[1:36:20]
it is pretty rare.
[1:36:22]
but I feel like this is really
[1:36:24]
pushing
[1:36:24]
pushing residents away from
[1:36:25]
their access here and also pushing
[1:36:27]
pushing mayors and deputy mayors
[1:36:28]
to continue with the poor code
[1:36:30]
of
[1:36:30]
of conduct of going to the media
[1:36:32]
and other things like that.
[1:36:33]
so I am not supportive with that
[1:36:35]
clause in
[1:36:35]
clause in it and those are my
[1:36:36]
reasons why.
[1:36:39]
>> thank you.
[1:36:41]
if I could, warden, the intent
[1:36:45]
of
[1:36:45]
of including an advanced time limit
[1:36:46]
limit on that is to allow for
[1:36:48]
administration to prepare on
[1:36:50]
items that aren't specifically
[1:36:52]
within our current scope of work
[1:36:54]
that we are attending to in the
[1:36:57]
immediate future.
[1:36:58]
so if a member of the public would
[1:37:01]
would like to bring forward a
[1:37:02]
delegation regarding something
[1:37:05]
that
[1:37:05]
that administration isn't currently
[1:37:06]
currently focused on, we do need
[1:37:07]
some time to prepare in advance
[1:37:09]
for that
[1:37:09]
for that and that was the
[1:37:10]
rationale for adding that extra
[1:37:12]
time.
[1:37:12]
david, I don't know if you want
[1:37:14]
to speak additionally to that.
[1:37:16]
>> through you warden, I will say
[1:37:18]
say the same thing. That
[1:37:20]
that it is probably time for
[1:37:21]
administration to prepare as necessary
[1:37:23]
necessary within the county
[1:37:24]
scope.
[1:37:24]
so again, there are two points.
[1:37:27]
5.2 deals with how to appear as
[1:37:30]
a delegation for agenda items and
[1:37:32]
and there's one for the nominee
[1:37:34]
agenda with the county scope of
[1:37:36]
work. So
[1:37:36]
so we would be able to prepare
[1:37:38]
the board for council's
[1:37:39]
awareness.
[1:37:39]
>> thank you for that.
[1:37:43]
and I read that in the report.
[1:37:44]
I think that was one of the
[1:37:45]
things that I was talking about
[1:37:47]
with the
[1:37:47]
with the shift that goes from
[1:37:50]
the democracy of residents
[1:37:52]
having concerns and councillors
[1:37:54]
hearing those concerns and having
[1:37:55]
having reasonable access to
[1:37:56]
members of council as opposed to
[1:37:59]
an
[1:37:59]
an administrative lens.
[1:38:00]
I know it requires a balance of
[1:38:02]
trust between administration and
[1:38:03]
council, because council could
[1:38:06]
make
[1:38:06]
make decisions on the fly,
[1:38:07]
right?
[1:38:07]
they heard from residents, they
[1:38:08]
make a decision on the fly, they
[1:38:10]
don't
[1:38:10]
don't have the report.
[1:38:12]
some councillors are saying what
[1:38:14]
about getting the report in
[1:38:16]
advance?
[1:38:16]
but I think that is kind of the
[1:38:17]
balance of democracy. That
[1:38:19]
that is the part of democracy
[1:38:20]
that I like.
[1:38:21]
that residents can have
[1:38:22]
reasonable access and that the
[1:38:24]
people around the table that are
[1:38:26]
seasoned and in these roles,
[1:38:28]
just to say just a minute I
[1:38:30]
don't know the financials, just
[1:38:32]
a minute, I don't have the
[1:38:32]
report on that.
[1:38:33]
I prefer that, I don't want 20 days
[1:38:35]
days later to have a report from
[1:38:37]
administration that says don't
[1:38:38]
do what the resident is asked
[1:38:39]
for 20 days ago and here's the
[1:38:41]
report
[1:38:41]
report as to why.
[1:38:42]
so thank you, I understand it
[1:38:45]
and I'm mainly glad my
[1:38:46]
understanding is clear.
[1:38:47]
I'm just not supportive, but
[1:38:49]
thank you very much for the work
[1:38:50]
that went into it.
[1:38:53]
anyone else?
[1:38:54]
councillor deyong?
[1:38:56]
>> just further, do you have a
[1:38:58]
recollection -- you surveyed us
[1:39:00]
all, I think they have a 14 day
[1:39:02]
if
[1:39:02]
if it's not on the agenda,
[1:39:03]
there's a 14 day delay,
[1:39:05]
basically a meeting cycle.
[1:39:08]
and is that the norm or are we the
[1:39:10]
the only one and you liked ours
[1:39:11]
so
[1:39:11]
so much you picked 20?
[1:39:13]
I'm just curious about how you
[1:39:15]
chose.
[1:39:15]
>> I don't have my notes in
[1:39:17]
front of me from all of the
[1:39:18]
consultation sessions, however,
[1:39:22]
our agenda cycle here is 19 days
[1:39:24]
in advance of a meeting that we
[1:39:27]
have to have our reports written
[1:39:29]
and
[1:39:29]
and submitted for approval.
[1:39:30]
so that is the rationale behind
[1:39:31]
the time limit that we have
[1:39:34]
added for council's
[1:39:35]
consideration.
[1:39:35]
and we did get that feedback
[1:39:38]
from more than one municipality
[1:39:40]
when we did our consultations with
[1:39:42]
with the seven locals.
[1:39:45]
>> you are okay with that now?
[1:39:51]
>> I was just curious, does everyone
[1:39:54]
everyone have a weight or some
[1:39:54]
don't have any weight at all?
[1:39:56]
do you recall at all?
[1:39:57]
I just heard lasalle is 21 days
[1:39:59]
and another was 14.
[1:40:01]
does everybody know what theirs
[1:40:02]
is? >>
[1:40:02]
>> not by heart, I can't tell
[1:40:05]
you what everyone's.
[1:40:06]
is for delegations.
[1:40:08]
however, I can get that back to you if
[1:40:09]
you if that is something you
[1:40:10]
want to hear before this goes
[1:40:13]
through here.
[1:40:14]
that will take a little while to
[1:40:15]
find out.
[1:40:18]
>> councillor prue?
[1:40:22]
>> if I might, just to say
[1:40:25]
amherstburg has either 14 or 28
[1:40:27]
days, depending on how long the
[1:40:28]
report is that staff has.
[1:40:30]
they say we can do it in the
[1:40:32]
next scheduled meeting, it's
[1:40:34]
done. If
[1:40:34]
if they say it's going to take
[1:40:36]
longer, it takes two cycles.
[1:40:38]
that is what we do.
[1:40:40]
anyways, that is not
[1:40:41]
-- I. Promised kate I. Wouldn't
[1:40:42]
ask a question with the
[1:40:44]
additional one minute.
[1:40:45]
but I do have a question about
[1:40:48]
page 309, 32.1 that says request
[1:40:53]
for
[1:40:53]
for proclamations, the raising
[1:40:55]
of
[1:40:55]
of flags and building
[1:40:57]
illumination shall be addressed
[1:40:58]
in
[1:40:58]
in accordance with the county
[1:40:59]
policy.
[1:40:59]
the reason I am asking this is
[1:41:02]
it
[1:41:02]
it came to me on monday, we had
[1:41:04]
a group come forward with
[1:41:08]
childhood cancers.
[1:41:08]
we raised the flag, we read the
[1:41:11]
proclamation and after we did that
[1:41:12]
that we were told that three
[1:41:14]
municipalities had refused them because
[1:41:15]
because it is not in accordance
[1:41:16]
with their policies.
[1:41:18]
I don't want to tie myself into
[1:41:22]
something where we have to say
[1:41:24]
no to groups like that.
[1:41:27]
>> through you warden, the
[1:41:29]
county already has a policy that
[1:41:32]
does not allow for that type of --
[1:41:34]
-- we don't do any proclamations
[1:41:36]
at all.
[1:41:37]
and flag raising we do very
[1:41:39]
limited.
[1:41:39]
>> does that mean that if we agree
[1:41:41]
agree with this, that the
[1:41:43]
municipalities cannot do what
[1:41:44]
they have always been doing because
[1:41:45]
because that is contrary to
[1:41:48]
county policy?
[1:41:49]
because we have always
[1:41:50]
recognized these groups.
[1:41:52]
we have always tried to help them put
[1:41:54]
them put up a flag, read a
[1:41:56]
proclamation.
[1:41:56]
>> through you warden, this is
[1:42:01]
related
[1:42:01]
related strictly just to the county
[1:42:02]
county facilities.
[1:42:04]
>> okay.
[1:42:05]
all right. So
[1:42:07]
so it does not impact -- it does
[1:42:10]
not impact the municipalities?
[1:42:12]
>> amherstburg can raise any
[1:42:13]
flag it wants. >>
[1:42:14]
>> thank you, that's all I need to
[1:42:15]
to know, I'm 100% in support.
[1:42:18]
>> councillor akpata?
[1:42:19]
>> thank you madam warden and through
[1:42:21]
through you, I just want to build
[1:42:22]
build on what my friend
[1:42:24]
miss bailey has said.
[1:42:25]
so if someone shows up with a
[1:42:27]
critical incident, a crisis in their
[1:42:29]
their municipality, we can waive
[1:42:34]
-- suspend the rules, have the
[1:42:35]
person talk and we will never
[1:42:39]
-- I. Just want to make sure we
[1:42:40]
don't deny a citizen of the
[1:42:42]
county of essex, who has an
[1:42:45]
issue -- and it's called a
[1:42:47]
priority about incident x, comes
[1:42:49]
here to come and speak, that we
[1:42:52]
can waive the rules and let them
[1:42:53]
speak.
[1:42:53]
speak.
[1:42:53]
I just want to make sure we would
[1:42:55]
would never turn someone away,
[1:42:57]
that
[1:42:57]
that is my bottom line.
[1:42:59]
>> the intent of the time that
[1:43:01]
is built into the new policy is
[1:43:04]
to
[1:43:04]
to allow for administration to
[1:43:06]
make that decision without council's
[1:43:07]
council's involvement at all.
[1:43:08]
however, council, if confronted
[1:43:11]
with a member of the public who
[1:43:12]
would like to speak at a council
[1:43:15]
meeting, who has either not applied
[1:43:16]
applied previously to the clerk
[1:43:19]
or has approached a council member
[1:43:20]
member directly at the meeting,
[1:43:22]
council
[1:43:22]
council has the ability to waive
[1:43:24]
the rules.
[1:43:24]
it is your bylaw, you have that ability
[1:43:26]
ability at any time.
[1:43:29]
>> thank you.
[1:43:30]
I thought about that.
[1:43:31]
but again, as I said, mayor bailey
[1:43:33]
mayor bailey brought up some
[1:43:34]
salient points and I want to make
[1:43:35]
make sure we never close our
[1:43:36]
doors to the people who -- we
[1:43:38]
have the privilege of
[1:43:39]
representing, thank you.
[1:43:41]
>> councillor meloche?
[1:43:42]
>> thank you.
[1:43:44]
and thank you for that
[1:43:45]
clarification as well.
[1:43:46]
you want to know we are always
[1:43:47]
open and available to people.
[1:43:49]
I know lasalle -- we have a 21
[1:43:52]
day and I had to do some research
[1:43:53]
research to make sure it was
[1:43:54]
accurate, but it is important to
[1:43:56]
get a report from
[1:43:57]
administration.
[1:43:57]
but I think it's even more
[1:44:00]
important that residents who look
[1:44:01]
look at our agendas can see
[1:44:03]
what's coming. And
[1:44:04]
and if they want to also speak
[1:44:05]
on
[1:44:05]
on that, that gives them a
[1:44:07]
chance to register as a
[1:44:09]
delegate, which in our municipality
[1:44:10]
municipality would be the friday
[1:44:11]
before
[1:44:11]
before because it would be
[1:44:12]
something on the agenda.
[1:44:14]
it actually gives the public
[1:44:15]
more of a chance to come speak
[1:44:16]
on
[1:44:16]
on it as well, where if we
[1:44:17]
didn't do that, they would come
[1:44:18]
here and speak and would be like
[1:44:21]
I want to
[1:44:21]
I want to have an opinion, I want
[1:44:22]
want to talk about that and they
[1:44:23]
wouldn't
[1:44:23]
wouldn't have the opportunity.
[1:44:24]
I look at it both ways but I'm glad
[1:44:25]
glad to know that we have that
[1:44:28]
power to be able to say there is
[1:44:30]
an emergency, someone needs to
[1:44:31]
come talk and we would always
[1:44:32]
love to come talk, thank you.
[1:44:35]
>> councillor waldstedt?
[1:44:39]
>> thank you madam mayor.
[1:44:41]
I guess I need further
[1:44:43]
clarification on that, because
[1:44:44]
with this restriction in there,
[1:44:47]
the
[1:44:47]
the administration is going to say
[1:44:47]
say you don't meet the timeline,
[1:44:49]
therefore
[1:44:49]
therefore you can't can't appear
[1:44:50]
before council.
[1:44:50]
am I missing something here?
[1:44:54]
but then council has the
[1:44:55]
authority, if they come to the
[1:44:57]
meeting to waive the rules or waive the
[1:44:59]
waive the procedural bylaw, to
[1:45:00]
hear that. But
[1:45:01]
but how do they get notified
[1:45:02]
that they can come to council,
[1:45:04]
despite the fact that administration
[1:45:05]
administration says you are not
[1:45:06]
complying with the procedural
[1:45:08]
bylaw?
[1:45:08]
so then the irate resident goes
[1:45:12]
back to the mayor or the deputy
[1:45:13]
mayor
[1:45:13]
mayor and says well, I've been
[1:45:14]
told I can't come to county
[1:45:15]
council, then we have to tell
[1:45:17]
them well, you come to county council
[1:45:18]
council and we will try to make a motion
[1:45:19]
a motion to have you be heard.
[1:45:21]
that's kind of messy.
[1:45:22]
I just think we should leave it
[1:45:24]
the
[1:45:24]
the way it was and you will get
[1:45:27]
my support on the bylaw if we do
[1:45:29]
that.
[1:45:29]
>> so through you warden, there
[1:45:33]
is
[1:45:33]
is also a provision that the
[1:45:35]
clerk shall notify all members
[1:45:38]
of
[1:45:38]
of council when there is a
[1:45:39]
delegation who is denied for any
[1:45:41]
reason.
[1:45:41]
and the reason for that denial
[1:45:44]
of the
[1:45:44]
of the delegation. There
[1:45:45]
there is that awareness factor
[1:45:47]
that
[1:45:47]
that council would be made aware
[1:45:49]
of
[1:45:49]
of that fact of denial in any case
[1:45:53]
case and you'd be able to either reach
[1:45:55]
reach out or instruct or further
[1:45:58]
contact that person or advise me to
[1:45:59]
to contact that person.
[1:46:03]
>> it still falls back on us
[1:46:05]
then.
[1:46:05]
because our bylaws say that they
[1:46:08]
can't.
[1:46:08]
so I just think -- leave it the way
[1:46:12]
way it was so we don't get into
[1:46:14]
that
[1:46:14]
that predicament. That
[1:46:16]
that is the only way that I will
[1:46:17]
support the bylaw, if we don't
[1:46:21]
change that, leave it open.
[1:46:22]
and then we are on the spot, the
[1:46:24]
mayors and the deputy mayors are
[1:46:25]
on
[1:46:25]
on the spot wondering if we are
[1:46:26]
going to get support from the other
[1:46:27]
other members of council to hear
[1:46:30]
these
[1:46:30]
these individuals who we have
[1:46:31]
asked to come.
[1:46:33]
so it is a bit of a crab shoot
[1:46:34]
for them and for us.
[1:46:37]
so if that wasn't their, we
[1:46:39]
wouldn't have that problem,
[1:46:40]
thank you.
[1:46:41]
>> councillor shepley?
[1:46:42]
>> through you madam warden.
[1:46:43]
just wondering if after
[1:46:44]
listening to some of the
[1:46:45]
conversation, if we could maybe
[1:46:47]
pull this one aside and vote on
[1:46:48]
the rest, unless there's some
[1:46:51]
issues with any other individual
[1:46:53]
parts of this.
[1:46:56]
>> council can divide the question as
[1:46:59]
question as you see fit.
[1:47:02]
>> councillor bailey?
[1:47:06]
>> thank you.
[1:47:07]
I will get in on recognizing and
[1:47:10]
going twice, through you, I just
[1:47:12]
want to point out to my
[1:47:13]
colleague across the table,
[1:47:15]
because I also believe it should
[1:47:16]
come on the agenda, that is the
[1:47:18]
challenge that I'm trying to
[1:47:19]
avoid here.
[1:47:20]
what it means is that you get an
[1:47:22]
email that says so-and-so was
[1:47:23]
turned away, the person has already
[1:47:25]
already called you, they are not
[1:47:27]
able to come and you have to do
[1:47:29]
the theatrics of saying come at
[1:47:30]
the last minute, it's not on the
[1:47:32]
agenda, other residents don't
[1:47:33]
get to know about it, other people
[1:47:34]
people may have wanted to speak
[1:47:35]
about it
[1:47:35]
about it but they are not in the
[1:47:37]
room and it's last minute.
[1:47:38]
whereas it doesn't take 20 days
[1:47:42]
to be also on the agenda.
[1:47:43]
we know that, because we see
[1:47:45]
lots of delegations that come in and
[1:47:47]
and don't take 20 days.
[1:47:50]
what I'm trying to avoid is the
[1:47:53]
theatrics of having to bring
[1:47:55]
somebody in separately and vote
[1:47:56]
on it and it just becomes this
[1:47:58]
gong show and still you don't
[1:48:00]
have a report and now it's not
[1:48:02]
on the
[1:48:02]
on the agenda and no one else knows
[1:48:03]
knows about it. It
[1:48:04]
it is a shift in democracy and
[1:48:06]
it is limiting access to
[1:48:09]
council.
[1:48:09]
thank you.
[1:48:12]
>> I believe we have talked this
[1:48:20]
through enough, what are your
[1:48:22]
wishes in regards to the
[1:48:24]
recommendation?
[1:48:24]
do you propose that we take the
[1:48:29]
delegation policy out and vote
[1:48:30]
for that separately?
[1:48:32]
I'm looking to you, councillor
[1:48:35]
bailey.
[1:48:35]
because you brought the issue up
[1:48:38]
first.
[1:48:38]
first.
[1:48:38]
is that okay with you, madam
[1:48:40]
clerk? Or
[1:48:40]
or do you have another
[1:48:41]
suggestion?
[1:48:41]
>> if it is council's preference
[1:48:44]
to
[1:48:44]
to consider these things
[1:48:45]
individually, we can make them
[1:48:47]
all
[1:48:47]
all individual motions and
[1:48:48]
council can vote on them that
[1:48:50]
way.
[1:48:50]
and if you just want to see the
[1:48:54]
delegation policy held
[1:48:56]
separately and vote on it as
[1:48:59]
amended.
[1:48:59]
>> councillor bailey?
[1:49:01]
>> thank you.
[1:49:02]
I would propose an amendment and I
[1:49:04]
I would turn it over to
[1:49:07]
mr. Sandin, our clerk as well to
[1:49:09]
tell
[1:49:09]
tell me what the timeline is for
[1:49:11]
regular
[1:49:11]
regular delegation that would
[1:49:12]
appear on the agenda.
[1:49:14]
I don't know what that timing
[1:49:15]
is, but really my intent isn't
[1:49:16]
to have last minute decisions
[1:49:18]
coming in either, I recognize that we
[1:49:19]
that we want it to be on the agenda
[1:49:22]
agenda and I also know that it
[1:49:23]
turns things around and in quick
[1:49:25]
order for administration.
[1:49:26]
but whatever the regular
[1:49:27]
delegation time frame would be
[1:49:29]
is what I propose as an
[1:49:31]
amendment to council and I hope
[1:49:32]
for support.
[1:49:35]
>> I will then wait for our team
[1:49:38]
here to come up with the wording
[1:49:40]
and we will check back with you,
[1:49:42]
is
[1:49:42]
is that all right?
[1:49:44]
>> through you warden, currently
[1:50:25]
we publish the agenda seven days
[1:50:28]
prior.
[1:50:28]
the current bylaw, we haven't changed
[1:50:31]
changed it yet, the current
[1:50:33]
bylaw has noon on the friday
[1:50:35]
before. So
[1:50:35]
so it would be three and a half
[1:50:37]
business days before, currently
[1:50:40]
of
[1:50:40]
of the 20 business days we are
[1:50:42]
proposing now.
[1:50:42]
if that assists you.
[1:50:46]
>> can I have some clarification
[1:51:00]
on what it is you are seeking
[1:51:02]
here?
[1:51:02]
>> thank you.
[1:51:03]
I am proposing an amendment to
[1:51:04]
what is currently written to reflect
[1:51:06]
reflect what was just
[1:51:07]
presented.
[1:51:07]
>> so to reiterate, the only
[1:51:13]
amendment you are proposing is
[1:51:15]
to the
[1:51:15]
to the delegation policy as
[1:51:17]
written, with the provision of
[1:51:18]
the friday prior to publishing
[1:51:21]
-- fryer -- friday prior to the
[1:51:23]
meeting being reinstated into
[1:51:25]
the new, proposed delegation
[1:51:27]
policy?
[1:51:27]
>> correct.
[1:51:28]
I'm happy to move the
[1:51:30]
overarching policy as well, with
[1:51:33]
the amendment concluded, shall
[1:51:35]
get support.
[1:51:35]
>> thank you.
[1:51:36]
>> thank you.
[1:51:39]
>> I am going to read the
[1:51:57]
recommendation, councillor, and
[1:52:00]
then on the advice of the clerk,
[1:52:01]
let me run this by you first.
[1:52:04]
so the council received the
[1:52:05]
report as information and that
[1:52:07]
the proposed procedure bylaw be
[1:52:08]
adopted as bylaw 2026-01 and
[1:52:11]
that the current bylaw be repealed,
[1:52:16]
repealed, and that the proposed
[1:52:17]
changes to the delegation
[1:52:20]
policy, is it a public conduct
[1:52:23]
policy
[1:52:23]
policy passed to private policy
[1:52:25]
be adopted as amended, are you
[1:52:27]
okay with just adding that
[1:52:29]
part?
[1:52:29]
okay. And
[1:52:29]
and that is moved by councillor
[1:52:32]
bailey.
[1:52:32]
looking for a seconder. Councillor
[1:52:36]
councillor waldstedt?
[1:52:38]
any further discussion on the
[1:52:40]
matter?
[1:52:40]
>> thank you.
[1:52:42]
I do like the compromise.
[1:52:44]
my only concern is by going to
[1:52:47]
friday
[1:52:47]
friday before, we won't have a report to
[1:52:48]
report to put on the agenda
[1:52:49]
because I think it was seven
[1:52:51]
days for the reports.
[1:52:52]
so we are still missing that
[1:52:54]
component of being able to produce
[1:52:57]
produce that for residents to be
[1:52:58]
able to
[1:52:58]
able to read to decide they want
[1:52:59]
to be a
[1:52:59]
to be a part of it. If
[1:53:00]
if we say friday, no one else could register to
[1:53:03]
could register to be a delegate
[1:53:04]
at that point.
[1:53:06]
>> through you warden, you are
[1:53:08]
correct that administration
[1:53:09]
would not have a window of time
[1:53:11]
to prepare a report for the
[1:53:13]
agenda.
[1:53:13]
if this passes, I can assure you
[1:53:16]
as your cao I. Will be more vocal
[1:53:17]
vocal at those meetings to
[1:53:18]
recommend that council take a
[1:53:20]
pause, to give administration
[1:53:22]
time to prepare a report, which
[1:53:24]
would likely result in that item
[1:53:25]
coming back to a future meeting
[1:53:27]
of
[1:53:27]
of council.
[1:53:27]
I will just be more vocal from here
[1:53:29]
here on out if this passes.
[1:53:33]
>> you still look perplexed.
[1:53:35]
councillor?
[1:53:35]
>> I think that my concern is,
[1:53:40]
again, we want to hear these
[1:53:41]
people. But if
[1:53:42]
but if we don't get a report, we
[1:53:43]
haven't come in on friday, a
[1:53:45]
delegate for friday on the
[1:53:46]
following wednesday, then we are
[1:53:48]
going to say well, you have to
[1:53:49]
come back because we
[1:53:49]
come back because we have to get a
[1:53:50]
a report and we have now deleted
[1:53:51]
another two weeks.
[1:53:53]
I'm wondering if the seven days
[1:53:54]
would be fair so that
[1:53:57]
administration would be put on
[1:53:59]
the agenda and we could actually
[1:54:00]
address the residents when they
[1:54:02]
are here, instead of saying sorry we
[1:54:04]
sorry we have no answers for
[1:54:05]
you, come back again in a few
[1:54:06]
weeks. That
[1:54:06]
that was my only thought. I
[1:54:09]
I want to be sure we aren't
[1:54:10]
wasting a lot of time but we are
[1:54:11]
also
[1:54:11]
also able to prepare something
[1:54:12]
for these people.
[1:54:13]
and like I said, anybody else who
[1:54:15]
who may want to delegate on that
[1:54:17]
will
[1:54:17]
will have missed the deadline if
[1:54:18]
the deadline is the same day. That
[1:54:20]
that is my only concern.
[1:54:23]
>> duly noted, thank you.
[1:54:28]
so I will ask folks to vote.
[1:54:32]
and we have it changed on the
[1:54:35]
screen.
[1:54:35]
so we will be voting
[1:54:38]
electronically, correct?
[1:54:41]
and that is carried, thank you
[1:55:02]
next up we have the appointment
[1:55:06]
of a closed meeting
[1:55:07]
investigator, over to you.
[1:55:11]
>> thank you warden and through
[1:55:14]
you to members of council.
[1:55:15]
this is not a new topic for
[1:55:18]
council, I will not elaborate
[1:55:19]
too much on this.
[1:55:21]
on may 20th, 2026, report was
[1:55:23]
provided to county council advising
[1:55:25]
advising that the current caption
[1:55:26]
caption would be concluding at the
[1:55:27]
the end of this year.
[1:55:29]
council has a choice to either
[1:55:31]
engage in an independent closed
[1:55:33]
meeting
[1:55:33]
meeting investigator as a closed
[1:55:42]
meeting
[1:55:42]
meeting investigator.
[1:55:44]
and the county will be in
[1:56:00]
compliance with when the las contract
[1:56:02]
contract expires at the end of the
[1:56:04]
the year.
[1:56:06]
>> questions for
[1:56:08]
administration?
[1:56:08]
councillor bondy?
[1:56:11]
>> thank you warden
[1:56:12]
macdonald.
[1:56:12]
I was happy to see that
[1:56:16]
administration took the feedback
[1:56:18]
and came back with open
[1:56:21]
mindedness towards using the
[1:56:23]
ombudsman.
[1:56:23]
I am hoping county council does
[1:56:26]
think
[1:56:26]
think about using the
[1:56:27]
ombudsman.
[1:56:27]
it seems like it is more fiscally
[1:56:30]
fiscally responsible, it drops
[1:56:31]
our corporate legal bills and I think
[1:56:33]
think it has more public trust.
[1:56:36]
because
[1:56:36]
because when we appoint our own
[1:56:37]
-- this
[1:56:37]
-- this is my opinion -- when we
[1:56:39]
appoint our own investigator,
[1:56:41]
there is a perception of bias by
[1:56:43]
handpicking our investigator.
[1:56:45]
so unless a municipality is
[1:56:47]
facing a rare situation, then
[1:56:51]
the 30-60 day window is
[1:56:53]
appropriate for the ombudsman.
[1:56:54]
we have had a closed meeting
[1:56:56]
investigation in essex, I will
[1:56:59]
share it now and I feel like the
[1:57:00]
ombudsman did a very fair job.
[1:57:02]
I couldn't imagine the cost it
[1:57:05]
could be
[1:57:05]
could be if it was a private
[1:57:07]
organization, that is just my thoughts
[1:57:07]
thoughts and I'm hoping somebody
[1:57:09]
makes a motion to go with the
[1:57:09]
ombudsman.
[1:57:09]
>> anyone else?
[1:57:15]
councillor prue? >>
[1:57:17]
>> and I shall be he.
[1:57:18]
I think the ombudsman is the absolute
[1:57:20]
absolute best way to go here.
[1:57:22]
not because we are going to save
[1:57:24]
a lot of money, but the public
[1:57:25]
perception is very important.
[1:57:27]
if you ask anyone out there on
[1:57:29]
the street in any place around
[1:57:32]
this whole county, if you ask
[1:57:34]
them who they feel most
[1:57:35]
confident in dealing with, the
[1:57:39]
alleged misdeeds of the county
[1:57:40]
or any of the municipalities, they
[1:57:42]
they will tell you the
[1:57:43]
ombudsman.
[1:57:43]
the ombudsman is called in a lot
[1:57:46]
more often
[1:57:46]
more often than you might
[1:57:47]
think.
[1:57:47]
if you only have one, you are lucky.
[1:57:51]
if you only have one, you are lucky.
[1:57:51]
we have had several requests and
[1:57:53]
I am always satisfied, although it
[1:57:55]
it does take a long time, it is
[1:57:56]
free and it is done well.
[1:58:00]
the explanation is there and the
[1:58:01]
person who is advised of the
[1:58:03]
reasons why they are or are not
[1:58:05]
successful.
[1:58:05]
and I think that in terms of public
[1:58:09]
public perception, I would go
[1:58:10]
with that.
[1:58:11]
the savings may be small because
[1:58:13]
they are nothing, versus $300 an
[1:58:19]
hour if there are multiple
[1:58:20]
complaints, there's a lot going
[1:58:23]
on.
[1:58:23]
and I have always admired the
[1:58:28]
ombudsman since it was
[1:58:30]
instituted I think during the
[1:58:31]
bill davis government, if my memory
[1:58:33]
memory is still right.
[1:58:34]
and it has never caused any
[1:58:36]
problem to anyone I know in the
[1:58:38]
whole province.
[1:58:39]
I will move that motion.
[1:58:43]
>> councillor deyong?
[1:58:45]
we will get to the moving, I have to
[1:58:46]
have to do it in two separate,
[1:58:49]
will actually come back to councillor bondy
[1:58:50]
councillor bondy and I will let
[1:58:51]
you second, how does that
[1:58:52]
sound?
[1:58:52]
councillor deyong?
[1:58:55]
>> I was going to second the
[1:58:57]
ombudsman.
[1:58:57]
>> councillor meloche, did you
[1:59:02]
have your
[1:59:02]
have your hand up?
[1:59:05]
but I have to separate it into
[1:59:06]
two, if you don't mind.
[1:59:07]
the first is that council
[1:59:08]
receives the report as
[1:59:10]
information and does anybody
[1:59:11]
want to move or second that? Councillor
[1:59:14]
councillor mcnamara, deputy warden.
[1:59:16]
councillor mcnamara, deputy warden.
[1:59:16]
sorry.
[1:59:16]
any discussion on the motion to
[1:59:25]
receive?
[1:59:25]
I will ask you to vote
[1:59:27]
electronically, please.
[1:59:30]
and that is carried.
[1:59:43]
next up, we have the
[1:59:47]
recommendation that council direct
[1:59:49]
direct administration to engage
[1:59:50]
with the
[1:59:50]
with the ombudsman for closed meeting
[1:59:51]
meeting investigator services,
[1:59:52]
that is moved by councillor
[1:59:54]
bondy, seconded by councillor
[1:59:56]
prue.
[1:59:56]
any further discussion on that
[1:59:59]
matter?
[1:59:59]
I will ask you to vote
[2:00:01]
electronically again, please.
[2:00:04]
and that is carried, thank you.
[2:00:12]
thank you kate.
[2:00:14]
next up we have servicing
[2:00:15]
encroachment and easement
[2:00:18]
agreement.
[2:00:18]
for that -- we have marisa.
[2:00:23]
here to do our report.
[2:00:26]
over to you, marisa.
[2:00:28]
>> thank you.
[2:00:29]
through you madam warden, this
[2:00:31]
report
[2:00:31]
report before you tonight is
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seeking council approval to enter
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enter into an agreement with the
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parties noted for an
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encroachment and solution of a
[2:00:38]
water system in the county's
[2:00:40]
right of way.
[2:00:42]
just south of texas and water
[2:00:46]
treatment plant, this is a raw
[2:00:49]
water intake.
[2:00:50]
in the report, the county has
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historically had installation of such
[2:00:54]
such infrastructure along county
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routes, provided that the
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proponent enters into an
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agreement which addresses certain
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certain requirements and
[2:00:59]
conditions to operate this
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infrastructure.
[2:01:01]
working with a proponent of the
[2:01:06]
details, we received and have been
[2:01:07]
been conditionally approved and
[2:01:10]
legal
[2:01:10]
legal services have negotiated
[2:01:11]
the
[2:01:11]
the terms of the agreement, based on
[2:01:13]
based on the form which is sent
[2:01:14]
to council for consideration
[2:01:15]
this evening.
[2:01:16]
as noted in the report, there
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are no expected issues with this
[2:01:20]
infrastructure, the proponent is
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done by trenchless methods over the road
[2:01:24]
the road and the agreement is a
[2:01:27]
proponent to follow for the
[2:01:28]
construction operation of the
[2:01:30]
water system within our right of
[2:01:32]
way.
[2:01:32]
and with that we are available
[2:01:33]
for any questions.
[2:01:36]
>> thank you marissa.
[2:01:38]
questions from this report?
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councillor prue?
[2:01:43]
>> thank you madam warden.
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it's not really a question, I
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just want to say how successful
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the
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the county was last time we had
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someone who wanted to go on to
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the road, which was walker
[2:01:53]
aggregates.
[2:01:53]
they went under howard avenue.
[2:01:58]
and that saved a whole
[2:02:01]
intersection, it allowed their
[2:02:02]
trucks to go under to the two
[2:02:05]
parts of their quarries.
[2:02:07]
and it was seamless, it happened
[2:02:10]
very quickly, they did a
[2:02:11]
good job.
[2:02:11]
and I'm sure that jackson will
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do
[2:02:13]
do the same.
[2:02:16]
at the appropriate moment, I will
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will support it.
[2:02:20]
>> in that case, no one else's
[2:02:23]
comments, know that there is the
[2:02:24]
recommendation that council
[2:02:25]
received the report as
[2:02:26]
information and authorized the
[2:02:28]
warden and
[2:02:28]
warden and clerk to execute the
[2:02:29]
servicing
[2:02:29]
servicing encroachment and
[2:02:30]
easement agreement it's moved
[2:02:34]
and seconded.
[2:02:35]
any further discussion?
[2:02:37]
again, I will ask you to vote
[2:02:39]
electronically.
[2:02:39]
and that is carried, thank you.
[2:03:02]
thank you marissa.
[2:03:05]
next we have the final
[2:03:07]
financials projected results
[2:03:10]
operations for 2026.
[2:03:12]
melissa ryan, over to you.
[2:03:14]
>> thank you warden, through you
[2:03:16]
and the county council.
[2:03:17]
this report provides council
[2:03:18]
with a mid-year projection of the
[2:03:20]
the management results based on
[2:03:22]
activity up to june 30th, as
[2:03:23]
well as updated forecasts from
[2:03:25]
the
[2:03:25]
the department's.
[2:03:26]
at this point in the year, the
[2:03:28]
county is projecting an overall
[2:03:29]
year end surplus of
[2:03:30]
approximately 2.3 million, which
[2:03:32]
represents about 1.6% of our
[2:03:35]
total 2026 budget.
[2:03:36]
I do want to emphasize that while there
[2:03:38]
while there is a surplus projected,
[2:03:40]
projected, it is a relatively small
[2:03:41]
small variance when viewed against
[2:03:42]
against overall size of the
[2:03:43]
county budget.
[2:03:45]
and much of the surplus is
[2:03:46]
related to one time or timing related
[2:03:49]
related factors such as
[2:03:50]
vacancies, salary gaps, different
[2:03:52]
different projects and external
[2:03:54]
agency
[2:03:54]
agency adjustments.
[2:03:55]
so these should not be viewed as
[2:03:57]
ongoing savings
[2:03:57]
ongoing savings that can be
[2:03:58]
built into future budgets. So
[2:04:00]
so some of the more significant
[2:04:02]
variances include sun parlour
[2:04:03]
home, which is projecting a
[2:04:05]
surplus of roughly 740000 and
[2:04:08]
that one is primarily due to
[2:04:11]
funding which was just indicated
[2:04:12]
to us about a month ago.
[2:04:15]
some vacancies as well as
[2:04:17]
utility savings and ems, we are
[2:04:20]
projecting a surplus of
[2:04:21]
approximately 536,000 and it is
[2:04:24]
primarily
[2:04:24]
primarily attributed to vacant
[2:04:25]
shifts and associated wage costs.
[2:04:26]
shifts and associated wage costs.
[2:04:26]
and external commitments, we are
[2:04:28]
projecting a surplus of
[2:04:30]
approximately 469,000 and that
[2:04:33]
is primarily
[2:04:33]
is primarily due to funding
[2:04:34]
returned by the health unit.
[2:04:35]
every year they do
[2:04:37]
reconciliation from the prior year
[2:04:38]
year and we did get some funding
[2:04:39]
back there.
[2:04:40]
the remaining departments are
[2:04:42]
generally tracking close to
[2:04:43]
budget with some smaller
[2:04:46]
favourable variances.
[2:04:46]
so overall, administration lays
[2:04:49]
out this part in the year,
[2:04:51]
departments continue to manage
[2:04:52]
expenditures responsibly while
[2:04:53]
maintaining service levels and
[2:04:56]
strong financial position.
[2:04:58]
that said these are still
[2:04:59]
projections.
[2:04:59]
several assumptions underpin the
[2:05:01]
forecast, including winter
[2:05:03]
maintenance requirements, social
[2:05:05]
services costs, investment
[2:05:07]
performance and inflationary
[2:05:08]
pressures.
[2:05:08]
so we will continue to monitor
[2:05:10]
these closely throughout the
[2:05:11]
remainder of the year.
[2:05:14]
if the projected surpluses
[2:05:15]
materialize at year end,
[2:05:17]
anything else committed by
[2:05:18]
council would be committed to
[2:05:19]
the rate stabilization reserve
[2:05:21]
in
[2:05:21]
in accordance with the policy.
[2:05:24]
administration may also return
[2:05:25]
at
[2:05:25]
at year end with recommendations
[2:05:27]
regarding the allocation of any
[2:05:29]
ems or son parker home surpluses
[2:05:32]
to
[2:05:32]
to potentially put into their
[2:05:33]
respective capital reserves,
[2:05:34]
given the significant capital projects
[2:05:36]
projects anticipated in those
[2:05:37]
areas. And
[2:05:37]
and with that I am happy to take
[2:05:40]
any questions.
[2:05:41]
>> thank you melissa.
[2:05:43]
questions for our finance
[2:05:45]
director?
[2:05:45]
no questions?
[2:05:48]
great.
[2:05:48]
then the recommendation is that
[2:05:51]
council receive the report as
[2:05:53]
information.
[2:05:53]
councillor verbeke?
[2:05:57]
councillors rogers?
[2:05:58]
any further discussion?
[2:06:00]
I will ask you to vote
[2:06:01]
electronically please.
[2:06:04]
and that is unanimous as well.
[2:06:16]
next up we have the meals on
[2:06:18]
wheels proposal submission.
[2:06:19]
and I believe councillor rogers
[2:06:22]
has a conflict at this point, thank you.
[2:06:24]
has a conflict at this point, thank you.
[2:06:24]
so natasha, I believe you will
[2:06:30]
be reporting.
[2:06:31]
natasha?
[2:06:31]
>> good evening warden and
[2:06:33]
members of council.
[2:06:34]
the report before you tonight is
[2:06:36]
looking for council's
[2:06:37]
endorsement to submit a proposal
[2:06:39]
with south essex community council
[2:06:40]
council for meals on wheels services
[2:06:43]
services delivered by sun parlor
[2:06:44]
home.
[2:06:44]
you may know sun parlor home is
[2:06:47]
partnered to deliver meals on wheels
[2:06:49]
wheels for more than 20 years
[2:06:50]
and this is really an
[2:06:51]
opportunity for us to
[2:06:53]
reestablish a long-standing
[2:06:54]
relationship with experience in
[2:06:57]
delivering the programme and the
[2:06:59]
specific in-house skills and
[2:07:02]
equipment already on board that
[2:07:04]
would
[2:07:04]
would require us to do so
[2:07:05]
successfully.
[2:07:05]
the service is important to our
[2:07:08]
community as it provides
[2:07:09]
nutritious meals and wellness
[2:07:11]
checks that help seniors and
[2:07:14]
residents remaining independent
[2:07:15]
in
[2:07:15]
in their homes.
[2:07:16]
it aligns with the care and
[2:07:18]
services we provide to the
[2:07:19]
residents in the home and
[2:07:20]
reaches those who one day may
[2:07:21]
need long term care home
[2:07:23]
support.
[2:07:23]
from an operational perspective,
[2:07:27]
we reviewed the requirements and
[2:07:28]
have capacity to support the
[2:07:29]
programme through the existing
[2:07:31]
food and
[2:07:31]
food and nutritious services
[2:07:33]
resource.
[2:07:33]
we do not anticipate needing any
[2:07:35]
additional staff, equipment or
[2:07:37]
capital costs at this time and
[2:07:38]
are
[2:07:38]
are committed to working closely
[2:07:40]
with
[2:07:40]
with finance to ensure that our
[2:07:41]
proposal is financially
[2:07:42]
sustainable and that there will
[2:07:44]
be no net new cost to sun
[2:07:46]
parlour home.
[2:07:49]
this is a competitive process so
[2:07:50]
at
[2:07:50]
at this point in time we are
[2:07:51]
really just looking for council's endorsement
[2:07:52]
council's endorsement to allow us
[2:07:53]
us to move forward with the
[2:07:55]
proposal, but I'm happy to
[2:07:56]
answer any questions,
[2:07:57]
thank you.
[2:07:58]
>> thank you, natasha.
[2:08:00]
any questions for our director?
[2:08:03]
no questions?
[2:08:05]
in that case, there is a
[2:08:06]
recommendation that council
[2:08:07]
received the report as
[2:08:08]
information and that council
[2:08:09]
endorsed the submission with the
[2:08:11]
proposal for meals on wheels
[2:08:13]
services through south essex
[2:08:14]
community council, recognizing
[2:08:16]
sun parlor's long-standing
[2:08:18]
partnership in the delivery of
[2:08:19]
the programme.
[2:08:20]
its experience and operational
[2:08:22]
capacity to support service delivery
[2:08:24]
delivery and the positive impact
[2:08:26]
of
[2:08:26]
of the programme has for
[2:08:28]
residents within the community.
[2:08:31]
moved by councillor bailey,
[2:08:33]
seconded by councillor shepley.
[2:08:35]
any further discussion?
[2:08:38]
seeing none, I will ask you to
[2:08:40]
vote
[2:08:40]
vote electronically.
[2:08:42]
and that is carried.
[2:08:51]
no matters of unfinished
[2:08:53]
business, onto new business.
[2:08:55]
prior to the regular council
[2:08:56]
meeting this evening cat council
[2:08:57]
met for a special closed meeting
[2:09:00]
at
[2:09:00]
at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to
[2:09:02]
section 239 -- 3.1 of the
[2:09:04]
municipal act for an education
[2:09:05]
and training session regarding
[2:09:08]
truth and reconciliation
[2:09:09]
theory.
[2:09:09]
council met further in a closed
[2:09:11]
meeting at 5:00 p.m. Pursuant to
[2:09:14]
section
[2:09:14]
section 2392dnf of the municipal
[2:09:16]
act.
[2:09:16]
council was provided with
[2:09:18]
information regarding ongoing
[2:09:19]
legal matters and regarding
[2:09:21]
status of collective bargaining
[2:09:24]
with local union 4.72.
[2:09:26]
council further received
[2:09:28]
information related to the tentative
[2:09:30]
tentative collective agreement
[2:09:31]
between
[2:09:31]
between the county of essex and
[2:09:34]
local
[2:09:34]
local 2974.1.
[2:09:35]
as a result of the discussion,
[2:09:37]
the following recommendation are
[2:09:38]
before council.
[2:09:39]
that essex county council
[2:09:41]
approved the tentative agreement
[2:09:43]
between the corporation
[2:09:43]
between the corporation and
[2:09:43]
the county of essex and local
[2:09:47]
2974.1, including a drop above
[2:09:51]
the $45,128 from the health
[2:09:52]
benefit rate stabilization
[2:09:54]
reserve, subject to ratification
[2:09:56]
by
[2:09:56]
by the union's membership.
[2:09:58]
moved by councillor meloche,
[2:10:00]
seconded by councillor gibb.
[2:10:02]
any other questions?
[2:10:04]
I will ask you to vote
[2:10:06]
electronically.
[2:10:06]
and that is carried.
[2:10:30]
are there any other matters of
[2:10:31]
new business? Councillor
[2:10:32]
councillor mcnamara?
[2:10:33]
>> thank you madam warden. Through
[2:10:34]
through you to our director of
[2:10:36]
transportation services, just a
[2:10:38]
question.
[2:10:38]
in terms of when you were
[2:10:42]
expecting tenders from the
[2:10:46]
manning road drainage, the seer
[2:10:51]
ponds, I think two or three ponds.
[2:10:54]
ponds, I think two or three ponds.
[2:10:54]
I think it was a partnership
[2:10:55]
obviously with the town, but
[2:10:57]
it's going through the county.
[2:10:59]
>> through you madam warden, that
[2:11:01]
that tender is actually closed,
[2:11:02]
I believe it was last week.
[2:11:04]
so we are now in the process of being
[2:11:05]
being able to work through that
[2:11:07]
and
[2:11:07]
and then we will be commencing
[2:11:08]
that
[2:11:08]
that in a few weeks.
[2:11:09]
>> thank you.
[2:11:12]
>> anyone else?
[2:11:14]
seeing none then we're moving on
[2:11:15]
to adoption of bylaws, there are
[2:11:18]
three
[2:11:18]
three bylaws this evening for council's
[2:11:20]
council's consideration.
[2:11:20]
they will be read by the county
[2:11:22]
clerk.
[2:11:22]
>> bylaw number 2026-31, being
[2:11:28]
bylaw to provide the rules
[2:11:30]
governing the order and
[2:11:31]
proceedings of the council of the
[2:11:32]
the corporation of the county of
[2:11:33]
essex, committees and local
[2:11:35]
boards.
[2:11:35]
bylaw number 2026-34, being a
[2:11:40]
bylaw to authorize the execution
[2:11:41]
of a service in, encroachment,
[2:11:43]
and easement agreement between the
[2:11:44]
the corporation of the county of
[2:11:45]
essex and 100-040-2065 ontario
[2:11:49]
limited, operating as southern
[2:11:52]
aqua and 145-4410 ontario inc.,
[2:11:56]
operating as jax organics.
[2:11:58]
and bylaw number 2026-35, being
[2:12:01]
a bylaw to confirm the
[2:12:01]
proceedings of the council of the
[2:12:03]
the corporation of the county of
[2:12:04]
essex, special, closed, and regular
[2:12:06]
regular meetings for
[2:12:07]
september second, 2026. >>
[2:12:08]
>> there's a recommendation that
[2:12:10]
bylaws 2026-31, 2026-34 and
[2:12:14]
2026-35 be given three readings
[2:12:16]
and
[2:12:16]
and having been ready first, second
[2:12:18]
second and third time be finally
[2:12:19]
passed and enacted.
[2:12:22]
moved and seconded all in
[2:12:27]
favour?
[2:12:27]
never mind.
[2:12:28]
vote electronically please.
[2:12:30]
I thought I would get through one meeting
[2:12:32]
one meeting without messing it
[2:12:33]
up.
[2:12:33]
and that is carried.
[2:13:06]
are there any notices of motion
[2:13:08]
to be introduced for
[2:13:09]
september second?
[2:13:10]
councillor akpata?
[2:13:12]
>> thank you madam warden.
[2:13:14]
my notice of motion as the
[2:13:15]
county of essex has an existing
[2:13:17]
history and culture deep rooted
[2:13:19]
in french heritage and it's been
[2:13:20]
acknowledged that french language
[2:13:22]
language heritage and culture are
[2:13:22]
are part of the trade
[2:13:23]
negotiations with the
[2:13:24]
united states.
[2:13:25]
and has occurred, trade
[2:13:26]
negotiations with the
[2:13:27]
united states will affect border
[2:13:29]
communities and whereby many of our
[2:13:30]
our residents are directly impacted
[2:13:32]
impacted by these cross-border
[2:13:34]
issues
[2:13:34]
issues to their livelihood, be
[2:13:35]
it resolved that the county of
[2:13:37]
essex ensure that the concerns
[2:13:38]
of our
[2:13:39]
of our residents are brought
[2:13:39]
directly to the federal
[2:13:40]
government to consider as part
[2:13:41]
of the
[2:13:41]
of the future trade positions and
[2:13:44]
and discussions, reminding them
[2:13:45]
their
[2:13:45]
their activities directly affect
[2:13:47]
our
[2:13:47]
our communities and be it
[2:13:48]
further resolved that the french
[2:13:49]
language history of the county
[2:13:50]
of essex
[2:13:50]
of essex is also brought to the
[2:13:50]
attention of the federal
[2:13:51]
government to ensure the unique
[2:13:53]
language and culture of french
[2:13:55]
canadians is respected in any trade agreements
[2:13:56]
trade agreements that are going
[2:13:57]
to affect and how it will affect
[2:14:01]
us.
[2:14:01]
>> anyone else?
[2:14:04]
so all matters of business have
[2:14:07]
been adjourned -- are addressed,
[2:14:09]
adjournment is in order.
[2:14:10]
so the motion is that
[2:14:12]
essex county council meeting for
[2:14:14]
september second, 2026, be
[2:14:16]
adjourned at 8:14 p.m.
[2:14:18]
councillor prue?
[2:14:19]
councillors rogers?
[2:14:20]
all in favour by show of hands?
[2:14:22]
that is carried.
[2:14:23]
thank you everyone, I wish you
[2:14:25]
all a good night.