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[7:37] We will do an introdu auction of members.

[7:40] Present, starting with drew.

[7:42] Withdrew.Hello, Andrew Kauf

[7:45] Connor Madison.

[7:46] Keith Whitehouse, Valerie.

[7:47] Thanker.

[7:48] And Kristen Murphy conservation and sustainability planner for the town.

[7:53] And that is perfectly

[7:55] a quorum.

[7:55] Yep.

[7:56] For the quorum.

[7:57] It's exciting.

[7:59] We'll start out with any public.

[8:02] Comments

[8:03] it doesn't.

[8:05] Doesn't look that way and I assume.

[8:08] There's no one on one.

[8:09] Yeah.

[8:11] And that's totally fine.

[8:13] .

[8:14] So then we're breezing through.

[8:15] So then our first action item.

[8:18] Went a short wedding, conditional use experiment for the expansion of the existing parking

[8:21] lot.

[8:22] For service credit union at 1 0 9 eeping road tax map, 55, lot 67.

[8:27] I believe

[8:28] Mike

[8:30] ward is here to presume.

[8:30] Yeah.

[8:31] Keith covered.

[8:31] I'm so close.

[8:34] Well, well,

[8:37] thanks for having me.

[8:38] Sorry.

[8:38] I wasn't able to make the sidewalk, but I know Tom.

[8:41] Tom, you have good hands with probably Tom.

[8:42] So.

[8:44] Keith coming from bowler.

[8:45] This is a existing service federal credit union at 1 0 9 ING road.

[8:49] All they're looking to do

[8:51] is.

[8:53] Zoom down.

[8:55] Right.

[8:55] Is the building footprint staying the same?

[8:57] It just consisted and unsafe.

[9:00] With the number of parking spaces they have, they're looking for more parking.

[9:03] And they're also looking for a longer queuing for the, for the drive-through the

[9:06] teller and the ATM.

[9:08] ATM. So on this plan right now.

[9:11] And C is again, this access drive here.

[9:15] Access drive down here.

[9:17] And then there's an existing detention basin here.

[9:20] Which is under jurisdictional wetland by the state considers that even though it's just

[9:24] Man-made stormwater basin.

[9:25] There's some limited drainage out there that now pipes its way to.

[9:30] This

[9:31] detention basin.

[9:32] And then it outlets to the existing wetland, which is.

[9:36] Sorry.

[9:37] Yep.

[9:38] Let's screen for you.

[9:40] Ah, thank you.

[9:45] I didn't set it up right.

[9:47] Some way

[9:48] .

[9:50] Yeah, just go ahead.

[9:51] I'll pick it up.

[9:52] Okay.

[9:52] Thank you.

[9:54] And then the other wetland jurisdiction, wetland that you guys care about is up

[9:58] is up here, the forest wetland, something, those are the two wetlands that.

[10:02] Are on the site

[10:04] and that were in.

[10:06] Well, lemme report from Tom, from Ts.

[10:09] He also is here, so he can answer some additional questions about that.

[10:13] Thank you.

[10:14] Mm-hmm so that's the general site.

[10:15] The site is only about 1.2929 acres.

[10:20] And as you mentioned, the existing, the existing drainage and that filled wetland that

[10:24] we're talking about here.

[10:26] Is just about 700 square feet.

[10:27] And you'll notice in the next plan I'll show, we actually look at this

[10:30] replicate that area.

[10:32] In in this area.

[10:34] There is no impact

[10:36] to the other, the other.

[10:38] Web, just the buffer.

[10:40] This is the diagram that kind of just shows.

[10:43] The impact areas.

[10:43] So the light green.

[10:45] Is the

[10:48] sorry.

[10:49] I say the,

[10:50] the temporary.

[10:51] Oh.

[10:52] Sorry about that.

[10:55] The light green.

[10:57] Is the temporary impact to the buffer.

[10:59] And the dark green is.

[11:01] The permanent.

[11:03] So next plan.

[11:08] We'll show that.

[11:08] So the idea here is right.

[11:10] We're right now, this is not, this is kind of where the existing basin

[11:13] is.

[11:13] Right.

[11:14] So the idea is.

[11:15] We're keeping this access point and getting this access point and moving it further

[11:20] up.

[11:22] But further up here.

[11:24] And this is the added impervious area, right.

[11:26] And there's gonna be retaining wall here, cuz we're trying to limit the disturbance

[11:30] into the buffer area.

[11:32] So the added in Perus is only two acres.

[11:35] And the limit, the disturbance of the whole site is only 0.8 acres.

[11:39] So we have a full stormwater design to handle that additional impervious.

[11:43] And obviously we are as mentioned, moving.

[11:46] That existing stormwater basin.

[11:47] So it's part of the submittal was a full drainage report showing how we're

[11:51] hailing quantity and quality.

[11:54] The idea is it's still, again, the site's still discharging to the wetland.

[11:57] We have deep some point of catch basins.

[12:00] Basins hydrodynamic, separators and underground detention.

[12:04] System and a filtering practice.

[12:05] So I'll show you that on the next page.

[12:07] Which is the drainage plan.

[12:11] So here is the subsurface detention system.

[12:15] Right.

[12:15] And then the idea is it outlets to the wetland application area, which is

[12:19] directly abuts the wetland.

[12:21] So again, no wetland impact.

[12:22] It's.

[12:23] It's just the, the, the buffer.

[12:26] So the temporary buffer impact as noted on the application is 4,380 square feet

[12:31] The permanent impact to the buffer area is 1,550.

[12:34] Eight square feet.

[12:36] The other thing we sent some back and forth.

[12:38] Thank you about the stream.

[12:40] So there is a stream within the 150.

[12:43] Foot buffer.

[12:45] So that's why we also need the conditional use for the Shoreland protection.

[12:48] We just need it locally.

[12:49] We don't need the state.

[12:50] Shoreland.

[12:52] And our, with our impact is all temporary.

[12:54] No permanent within the 150 foot buffer.

[12:57] Is 2,410.

[12:59] Square feet.

[13:00] And again, that's all in the application.

[13:01] So you have two different applications conditionally use for the wetland conservation overlay and

[13:06] for the shoreline protection district.

[13:11] And then other things just wanted to show you.

[13:14] Just if you're interested

[13:15] is obviously this is a motion control plan, which is part of it.

[13:18] We can show, show the construction entrance here.

[13:22] And we have the erosion controls in place.

[13:23] I can talk further about if you'd like, and we also have.

[13:26] A full landscape plan.

[13:28] Obviously, everything's gonna be stabilized with seating and we're adding some more landscaping to

[13:33] the existing site to make it work.

[13:34] But again, the whole thing for this, the whole.

[13:37] Reason for this

[13:38] is that right now, actually the parking and the queuing doesn't really work for

[13:41] service credit union.

[13:42] So the idea was to just try to make it more safe.

[13:45] So the we've expanded.

[13:48] This direction towards the wetlands.

[13:50] Wetlands at the same time, trying to limit obviously the wetland impact and making

[13:53] sure we're handling stormwater.

[13:55] Other thing to note, just in the stormwater.

[13:57] We are treating the whole site.

[13:59] So right now there's some stormwater treatment.

[14:01] The stormwater treatment is considerably better on what we're doing.

[14:04] So, not only are we obviously treating the new, we're treating all the impervious

[14:08] to meet the local, the local bylaws.

[14:12] Bylaws.So it's a better system.

[14:13] That's presently out there.

[14:18] That's all I had in this, this.

[14:20] Questions.

[14:21] Thank you.

[14:22] Yeah.

[14:23] I just have a couple, so I, we, all of us around the sidewalk

[14:26] actually.

[14:26] Yes.

[14:27] Well,

[14:28] that's never happened before.

[14:29] Yeah.

[14:30] That's.

[14:32] The

[14:34] the new, I guess we'll call it like a.

[14:36] Drain water basin

[14:38] or the, the new wetlands is the grade going to go right into the

[14:42] existing wetland or is there gonna be a berm?

[14:45] I wanna zoom in there.

[14:46] So just, it's a good question.

[14:49] You guys probably had smaller plans, very different health.

[14:51] See, I'm assuming.

[14:53] You know what I'm gonna go to.

[14:58] Get out of this.

[14:58] Yeah, you can zoom in.

[15:00] That's fine.

[15:01] Let's see if I can go to hold on one second.

[15:06] Out of the presentation.

[15:08] Plan to have, I did not have the grading plan on here, but we

[15:10] easier to see.

[15:15] The full plan set.

[15:17] And I can go to the grading plan and zoom in.

[15:21] Be easier to see.

[15:42] so, yeah, there's, there's no berm.

[15:44] So we're basically, you know, and I do the wetland mitigation replication up to

[15:48] the line.

[15:49] So the idea is just increase.

[15:50] Increases that, that wetland

[15:53] and again, the wetland is not functioning.

[15:54] Wetland application of the wetland is not functioning as any stormwater treatment.

[15:59] The everything I just went through with the stormwater design.

[16:02] Totally handles that we're not counting on the wetland for any of that treatment

[16:05] So the idea is it's filtered treated before it makes it to the wetland

[16:08] and the wetland application area.

[16:13] And just so you know, I believe I'm trying to remember.

[16:15] I think we did.

[16:17] You know what I, I'm not sure.

[16:19] Double check if we did one-to-one replication or one and a half to one

[16:22] I don't recall, but it's at least one-to-one I think it was one and

[16:25] a.

[16:26] Half to, was it one, half to one?

[16:27] Sorry.

[16:27] Yeah.

[16:28] Yep.

[16:34] This doesn't qualify and it's under the a O T.

[16:37] T disturbance

[16:38] it is.

[16:39] Would you not 50?

[16:39] So no OT. We do not need a, a OT, but we will be

[16:43] going for the state wetlands permit.

[16:48] That was the thing that came up on site is you might.

[16:51] Unless we address that here and now then we you'd probably have to come

[16:55] back.

[16:57] For our review of the state permit.

[17:00] Usually we review those separat separately.

[17:05] What would you recommend?

[17:06] Kristin?

[17:08] I think it's the comfort level of the board.

[17:11] You know,

[17:13] you don't have the formal.

[17:15] Application and sorry, you don't have the formal.

[17:17] Application in front of you.

[17:19] I suspect you're not gonna have any additional details that you don't see now

[17:23] in terms of plan set.

[17:25] So.

[17:25] It's really just the state form.

[17:28] That is not in front of you.

[17:30] If you're comfortable with that, then you could add that to your, you know

[17:33] add a third motion to have a recommendation.

[17:37] To the state or you just.

[17:40] Are silent on the application.

[17:42] Or they come back.

[17:43] We wanted to present to you first, before we send to the state, in

[17:45] case you had any comments or concerns, therefore, then we could address them.

[17:49] And send that to the state.

[17:50] Same things.

[17:50] Chris just mentioned.

[17:51] If you have a recommendation that helps the point is there would be, if

[17:54] you guys have no comments, the, the state's gonna get exactly the same.

[17:58] The same plan.

[17:58] We're not changing anything.

[17:59] So if you can just condition it on.

[18:02] The state approval, like we're not planning on changing anything and it's a small

[18:05] minor impact where I'm expecting Tom.

[18:08] Correct me if I'm wrong.

[18:08] Any issues with the state permit?

[18:11] Yeah.

[18:11] Usually just comment on them.

[18:12] And so if we didn't comment, does it.

[18:15] Was that removed that whole like delay

[18:18] delays, the review or changes the.

[18:21] State review based on whether or not the conservation commission.

[18:24] So I think, I think because they're not.

[18:27] Seeking expedited review.

[18:29] That was just the expedited standard.

[18:31] So it's the standard.

[18:31] So it would just the standard review time.

[18:33] Okay.

[18:34] It's just whether or not.

[18:36] You want to offer, offer comments, an advisory opinion to the state?

[18:39] Sure.

[18:41] And I believe again, Tom, correct me.

[18:42] I can correct me line.

[18:43] It's just permit by notice.

[18:44] Right?

[18:45] Cause it's such a limited impact.

[18:47] Is that correct?

[18:47] It wouldn't be a permit by notice.

[18:49] Notification

[18:50] it wouldn't.

[18:51] I'm sorry.

[18:51] I'm telling Sokoloski.

[18:54] The Whitland scientist of record on the project.

[18:56] There, it wouldn't be a permit by notification because you were altering.

[19:00] The wetlands, but we need to review that more closely when we get into

[19:03] the actual application phase.

[19:06] Okay, because there were some changes as was alluded to by the conservation commission

[19:09] in the wetland rules.

[19:12] That goes back to the revisions that happened in 2019.

[19:16] And these days with all of the more recent changes as well.

[19:20] I, I go back to the book every time for a permit application these

[19:23] days.

[19:24] Just to make sure I'm current.

[19:29] That was a good answer.

[19:31] Smart.

[19:33] it's.

[19:35] So for this, we're not using the wetland creation as a, like a mitigation

[19:39] tool.

[19:40] No, we're using, we strict.

[19:43] Strictly just put, and I figured you guys may want kind of like, was

[19:45] trying to get this moving along.

[19:46] Didn't wait for you to cross.

[19:48] It's literally just of Cape the well, and there's no treatment.

[19:51] Part of that.

[19:51] Again, all the stone water design is treated in the deep sum of catch

[19:55] basin in the separators.

[19:57] That unground tension handles the

[20:00] volumes right in the, the P flows.

[20:02] And then the filtering practice.

[20:04] So that meets the criteria.

[20:06] The time, which I believe city just defers to the, even though we don't

[20:09] need the a O T it's still meeting.

[20:12] The a O T requirements for Stonewater treatment.

[20:15] Even though we don't have to get physically get that permit from them cuz

[20:18] we're underneath the threshold.

[20:21] So the deep sum and all of that is that.

[20:25] Is occurring under in the parking lot.

[20:28] Yeah, so

[20:30] you go back to the drainage plan to easy to see.

[20:40] Nipple.

[20:43] All the pipe piping catch basin.

[20:45] Heads to this subsurface detention area.

[20:49] Right.And then that filtering practice.

[20:51] Right here,

[20:52] then get this details as probably set is, is right.

[20:55] Is right here.

[20:56] So again, it's being treated.

[20:58] Filtered after, after, so we don't have to do it before, after the detention

[21:03] Before it goes to the wetlands.

[21:05] Wetlands.Okay.

[21:05] And that's,

[21:07] that is

[21:08] a closed system.

[21:09] You're not infiltrating.

[21:10] It's closed, closed system.

[21:13] Yep.

[21:13] Correct?

[21:13] There's no infiltration.

[21:14] The soils out there are D.

[21:16] So we can't, we don't, we're not gonna get the infiltration, so we don't

[21:20] have to hit that criteria.

[21:22] Because it's a Desso and doesn't, the rates are too slow.

[21:24] So it's strictly a detention.

[21:26] Detention system.

[21:27] Okay.

[21:29] And we did see that.

[21:30] So there were two test pets out there.

[21:32] Correct.

[21:35] And those were in that wetland creation area.

[21:38] They were, we didn't want to rip up the parking.

[21:40] I don't know if they show on here.

[21:44] Or there were three test pets.

[21:46] Even there was one by the four, the basin.

[21:49] We saw and then two out in the woods.

[21:51] There's one here.

[21:53] Right.One here,

[21:54] one here.

[21:56] And one here.

[21:58] Okay.

[21:59] Oh, so we were out there.

[22:01] Okay.

[22:02] So those zones

[22:04] zones.

[22:04] That's helpful.

[22:06] So in part of the, in the, in Paul, the drainage report, if you

[22:09] want, but that information's in the drainage, in the drainage report.

[22:12] The logs and it talks about, obviously you want to make sure that.

[22:16] We were we where the groundwater was and all of that.

[22:18] So those, those logs are part of that drainage important and provided in there

[22:25] What were you looking for?

[22:26] A depth to.

[22:28] Groundwater is that what you were looking.

[22:30] For, or that's my next question.

[22:31] So

[22:33] .

[22:36] For that webinar.

[22:36] Are you going to hit groundwater?

[22:38] I guess was my question.

[22:39] So we went, yes.

[22:40] So we went exactly.

[22:41] The idea is it's.

[22:42] Basically that you can see we're put at the same elevation as the existing

[22:45] weapon.

[22:46] So that's, that's the idea and then we're feeding it, right?

[22:49] We're actually, if you notice the outlet.

[22:52] After everything's treated actually is right here.

[22:55] Discharges to that wetland application area.

[22:59] And again, as I mentioned in the existing conditions, again, same thing.

[23:03] The site is discharging to the, so we're holding that, like you said, it

[23:07] went from that existing.

[23:09] Stormwater basin to the wetlands were mimicking.

[23:12] You know, the drainage patterns.

[23:15] And required again, we're not flooding, we're not sending more.

[23:17] Right.

[23:17] That's why they have detention system.

[23:19] And the drain board talks about the peak flows and for all the storm

[23:22] events, we're.

[23:23] At a less,

[23:24] but it's, it's pretty close.

[23:25] You know, we're kind of matching what the existing flow to the wetlands is

[23:29] Even with the added areas.

[23:31] Areas,

[23:32] just a question off of that.

[23:35] It looks like it in your.

[23:37] Plan, but is there gonna be like armoring for that, that culvert coming out

[23:42] Yes.

[23:42] Yep.

[23:42] Because right now it kind of just.

[23:45] Ditches through the, yep.

[23:46] So right here, that's showing right here that is that I'm in a wrap

[23:50] flat end section.

[23:51] Yep.

[23:53] To make, to obviously protection, make sure the number, version issues, correct?

[23:57] Yep.

[23:59] And again, all those slopes you're seeing again, if you go back to landscape

[24:01] plan, we have that all seated and stabilized.

[24:06] Yeah.

[24:06] So those do fall.

[24:07] I'm sure that, you know, they fall within the.

[24:10] One 50

[24:11] Shoreland zone.

[24:12] Yep.

[24:12] So.

[24:13] I'm sure there's special requirements that.

[24:16] All DEFRA Kristen on, but we'll get to that.

[24:21] For planting in the

[24:23] Shoreland mm-hmm

[24:27] or fertilizer.

[24:29] Yeah, so

[24:31] so, if you say the I'm sorry, I was trying to pull up the

[24:34] criteria response, cuz I somehow.

[24:36] Misplaced the written version of that.

[24:39] A have 'em.

[24:39] Oh, okay, good.

[24:40] He wanted to fill 'em right up on screen.

[24:41] I can do that when we're ready to do that for both of the

[24:43] criteria for both.

[24:45] We'll do that when, so what was the question?

[24:47] The 150 50 Shortland zone.

[24:49] Yep.

[24:50] I assume there's high end restrictions for working inside of there.

[24:54] As far as

[24:56] so the, the only restrictions.

[25:00] That they

[25:01] the only reason they need a conditional use permit for the Shoreland district is

[25:05] for the presence of the district.

[25:07] So that's limitations on fertilizer.

[25:10] Use

[25:11] and that.

[25:11] So if they're replanting, for example, they'd need a waiver from that criteria.

[25:16] Mm-hmm .

[25:17] Or sorry, waiver from that condition from the planning board.

[25:23] But I don't.

[25:24] Don't it looks like there's some plantings.

[25:27] Plantings

[25:29] a little landscape plan.

[25:31] And then the other one was the imper exceeding 10% impervious cover within the

[25:36] district, which they don't, it doesn't mean within.

[25:39] The one 50,

[25:40] because it's yeah.

[25:41] That's all because the dis quote unquote temporary impacts.

[25:44] Yeah.

[25:45] So the district, yeah, exactly.

[25:50] The the dark line that's there is the Shoreland district.

[25:54] So just the, the

[25:56] plantings this line right here.

[25:57] Mm-hmm thank you.

[25:59] Yep.

[26:02] But they're outside of the 75 foot.

[26:06] Vegetated, but buffer they're outside of.

[26:09] All the other

[26:12] or

[26:13] restrictions.

[26:16] So

[26:17] that Steve slope

[26:20] proposed deep slope seed.

[26:22] Mix over six inches of top soil.

[26:25] That's that zone that has.

[26:28] Bittersweet.

[26:30] Well, I guess that's further back.

[26:32] Maybe we didn't fully inspect that.

[26:35] That area.

[26:37] Yeah,

[26:38] I didn't walk that.

[26:39] That's why I didn't, we didn't get that far out, but it's pretty thick

[26:42] in general.

[26:48] Will that be like, that's a mode.

[26:51] Lawn

[26:52] landscaped area.

[26:53] What is that?

[26:54] No, that would not be, that would just be no.

[26:58] It's

[26:59] I can probably, we probably have details here once you gotta take on what

[27:02] that Cmix, but that's the idea is not to be mowed.

[27:04] No.

[27:06] It's a natural, natural seed mix.

[27:08] Okay,

[27:09] but, but the lawn on like the left.

[27:12] Of the parking lot will be.

[27:14] So there isn't a, I don't, I'm not, there's not an obvious delineation of

[27:17] sort of owed areas versus non.

[27:21] Maintained areas.

[27:22] Yeah.

[27:22] If you go to.

[27:25] You should be a legend here showing the.

[27:32] Go down the hatch legend down here.

[27:45] Okay.

[27:46] So we have

[27:48] this hatch is the really lawn areas, mowing areas.

[27:50] Okay.

[27:51] The other one is the new England, the wetland mix, and then the slope

[27:55] seed mix.

[27:55] So the.

[27:56] Only like lawn area to be maintained.

[27:58] Is this hatch.

[28:00] Okay.

[28:00] Which if we go back to the plan.

[28:03] Is none of the areas we're talking about.

[28:04] What we're talking about here, here, here.

[28:07] The areas within the buffer and all that.

[28:09] That's again, not the natural.

[28:11] CMEX not going to be.

[28:13] Mode, correct.

[28:14] Not gonna be mode and there's details in there.

[28:16] If you want in here, they talk about the seed mixes and.

[28:20] Might be on a detail sheet.

[28:23] That Le that

[28:25] I have a hard time believing that.

[28:27] Left

[28:28] side.

[28:28] Won't also be mowed.

[28:31] That might just be

[28:33] a hatch

[28:34] mistake.

[28:36] Maybe here, but there's no intention down here.

[28:38] There's Frank kind of steep slope stand there's no intention.

[28:41] Pull that down there.

[28:42] Okay.

[28:42] You might be right.

[28:43] Maybe through here.

[28:44] you know, that may come back to us, say they want a nice

[28:47] salon on that side, but yeah, the area we're talking about all back here

[28:51] there's no need on that.

[28:52] Slope and on the back side of that wall to, to do any sure

[28:56] Means means for the line.

[29:03] Anything else.

[29:04] Yeah.

[29:04] I'm still thinking about what you said about, should it be burned or because

[29:08] it's not like a for bay sort of.

[29:11] Thing.

[29:11] I don't, I'm not used to this.

[29:14] I haven't seen one.

[29:14] Design.

[29:14] Like it.

[29:15] That's why I'd ask.

[29:17] Yeah, we, is there any benefit?

[29:19] To not having a separation.

[29:24] Between

[29:25] this zone you're creating and the.

[29:29] Undisturbed area.

[29:31] So there's no planned maintenance of this wetland.

[29:37] Is that right?

[29:37] It's just correct.

[29:38] You're constructing this.

[29:41] And then yep.

[29:42] It's a wetland.

[29:42] Correct.

[29:43] And is made no one's going in is mating for the stormwater, but not

[29:46] for the, for the wetlands.

[29:47] No.

[29:48] Nope.

[29:49] Yeah.

[29:50] Isaiah is the planet.

[29:51] You've obviously, you know, get in the water there and just to let it

[29:54] you know,

[29:55] we obviously showed the plan.

[29:56] You know, we had the.

[29:58] New England splitting the wet seed mix in there.

[30:00] That's it?

[30:01] And the idea is just.

[30:03] You know, give you a, give you a little more wetland area to replicate

[30:06] what we disturbing, but there's no, there's no plan doing to maintain it.

[30:09] Right.

[30:10] And if you did put like a.

[30:11] Berm with like an overflow and that then you would kind of need to

[30:15] you'd have to maintain it, maintain that.

[30:17] Yeah.

[30:17] That structure to any kind of structure.

[30:20] In there that there's a separation, there's some engineered thing in there.

[30:23] Yep.

[30:23] We'd have to put that as pattern that then fall underneath the Stonewater.

[30:28] Meets with the maintenance for the Stonewater.

[30:30] Yep.

[30:30] So I've we figured this was best, cuz it's just.

[30:33] Again, we're just expanding the area of the existing wetlands to replicate and.

[30:39] Just let it, let it go.

[30:40] Right?

[30:41] Let it be.

[30:42] I was a thought.

[30:43] So we tend to see applications where the outlet is at the well and

[30:47] edge.

[30:47] Right.

[30:47] Mm-hmm .

[30:47] And so this one has a human.

[30:51] Created

[30:52] wetland.

[30:53] Before you get to the natural wetland edge.

[30:55] So.

[30:56] You're sort of further away from the natural wetland than you would be otherwise

[31:00] Right.

[31:01] And for like,

[31:03] in my experience, yes.

[31:05] Like typically yeah.

[31:06] The overflow is at the wetland edge.

[31:08] Yeah.

[31:10] Okay.

[31:10] And from my experience, we were like doing an actual wet one replication.

[31:14] You want it next to a wetland mm-hmm so it can kind of

[31:18] Migrate mm-hmm

[31:20] that's when you get better success for it, I just haven't seen it.

[31:24] Done like this before.

[31:25] So.

[31:29] It's interesting.

[31:33] Anything else.

[31:33] So we have two applications.

[31:35] The

[31:37] wetland conditional use permit.

[31:40] For the buffer impact and then the Shoreland.

[31:43] Buffer impact.

[31:46] Do we wanna start with the wetland condition?

[31:48] All use.

[31:55] You wanna have the applicant step through the criteria I do, because I think

[31:58] I'm scrolling past it.

[31:59] Right.

[32:00] Okay.

[32:01] Do you want me to pull it up or you want just, I have

[32:02] it printed too.

[32:03] I can just kind of run through it or I can pull up my

[32:05] screen here.

[32:06] Do you wanna just have him run through it verbally?

[32:09] I'm fine with that.

[32:09] What do you guys think?

[32:10] Sure.

[32:11] Yep.

[32:11] All right.

[32:11] So we're doing the, the wetlands one first.

[32:14] And that's the one with the, a criteria, right?

[32:16] So first one, the site proposed use is permitted in the underlining zoning district

[32:21] Yes.Suppose you permitted with an underlying zoning district and it's also an existing use

[32:26] No alternate design, which does not impact a wetland wetland buffer, or which has

[32:30] less detrimental impact on the wetland and wetland buffer is feasible.

[32:34] So again, the.

[32:35] Whole I reason why we're doing this and there's no other place to go

[32:37] with.

[32:37] Additional parking and queuing is unfortunately, two weeks closer to the wetlands and the

[32:42] wetland buffer.

[32:43] So the idea was, you know, we didn't have any other options, obviously on

[32:46] which direction we could go to add the.

[32:49] Additional impervious wetland scientists has provided impact evaluation.

[32:53] That includes the functions and values of the wetlands.

[32:56] Wetlands an assessment of potential project related impacts in.

[32:59] Concluded to the extent feasible.

[33:00] The proposed impact is not judgemental to the value and function of the wetlands

[33:04] or the greater hydraulic.

[33:06] System.

[33:06] So as mentioned, Tom who's here submitted as part of this application, his report

[33:11] So if there's any further questions than that, let me know.

[33:13] But.

[33:15] Basically

[33:17] to the extent practical,

[33:18] next one, number four.

[33:20] Design construction maintenance of, of the proposed use will to the extent feasible, minimize

[33:25] digital impact on the wetland or wetland buffer.

[33:31] Again, I don't, besides my response was just the design proposed features.

[33:36] Features to reduce the extent feasible.

[33:38] So idea is we obviously introduce the retaining wall, right?

[33:41] So that's a cost that you know, that our client has to.

[33:44] Have to the idea of just limiting that grading impact to the buffer and

[33:48] actually allowing us.

[33:50] More area to do that replication area.

[33:52] So again, this, some money being spent, not just replication area, but to make

[33:56] sure that we try to stay you.

[33:58] Know, limit our impacts.

[34:02] Number five.

[34:08] That the proposed use will not create a hazard to individual or public health

[34:12] safety in wetland due to the loss of wetland to the contamination of groundwater

[34:16] or.

[34:16] Other reasons.

[34:19] except exempting.

[34:19] The man-made stormwater basin wetland identified the beginning of the letter for the proposed

[34:24] parking lot.

[34:25] So my understanding was that was not in, even in.

[34:27] The jurisdiction.

[34:28] Correct.

[34:28] So, so yeah, so.

[34:30] We're only buffer.

[34:31] So all work within the buffer area has been designated to avoid direct impacts

[34:34] logistic wetlands with no filling, greeting or alteration occurring within the, we.

[34:38] Wetland itself.

[34:39] The limited buffer disturbance is necessary to accommodate the proposed improvements and we manage

[34:43] through appropriate erosion and salmon controls and stormwater.

[34:47] Management practices as the result project will not adversely affect wetland function, groundwater quality

[34:51] or drainage patterns.

[34:53] No will create hazard to individual.

[34:55] Or public health, safety or welfare accordingly, the proposed use is expected to have

[34:59] only a minor impact on the wetland, buffer wild, fully preserving the adjacent wet

[35:03] Wetland resource.

[35:05] The applicant may propose an increase in wetland buffer elsewhere on the site.

[35:10] That ha that's surrounded wetland of equal or greater size.

[35:13] And of equal or greater function value.

[35:16] Then the impact of Redland the site is too small to propose an increase

[35:18] in a wetland buffer elsewhere, except for we are proposing the one, one and

[35:22] a half to one wetland location.

[35:24] Medication for the filling of the manmade stone motivation.

[35:27] Seven in cases where a proposed use is temporary or construction activity, district evidence

[35:32] adjacent to the immediate use.

[35:33] The applicant has included.

[35:35] Included a restoration proposal.

[35:36] Revegetating any disturbed area within a buffer.

[35:40] With the goal to restore the site as nearly as possible.

[35:43] To the original grade and conditioned following construction.

[35:46] Yes.

[35:47] And that again, parks to the, obviously that replication area where we were showing

[35:50] on the plans.

[35:52] Plans

[35:52] eight.

[35:54] That all required permits shall be obtained.

[35:57] I'm not gonna be the whole thing, basically saying that we're gonna get the

[35:58] state permit.

[36:00] Which we are gonna get state permit again, hasn't been filed yet, but it

[36:02] will be filed shortly.

[36:04] From the DS.

[36:12] Any more questions?

[36:13] Do we have a motion for the wetland conditional use?

[36:24] I'll motion that we have no objections.

[36:26] To the issuance of

[36:28] wetland conditional use permit.

[36:31] I'll second that

[36:35] do we have any discussion?

[36:39] I'm pretty good.

[36:41] All right, so we can vote all those in favor.

[36:44] Of the motions.

[36:45] Aye.

[36:46] Aye.

[36:47] Aye.Aye.

[36:47] All those opposed

[36:49] the motion passes.

[36:51] Passes for to zero.

[36:52] Thank you.

[36:53] That was just the wet ones.

[36:54] Yep.

[36:54] I know we still shoreline.

[36:55] Right.

[36:55] So now we have Shoreland, which I do have in front of me.

[36:59] Somewhere.

[37:01] You're doing a good job.

[37:02] You can keep running through them.

[37:03] all right.

[37:04] You all set?

[37:05] Keep going.

[37:05] Yeah.

[37:06] Do you have the, the shore.

[37:07] Shoreland in front of you.

[37:08] I do just a through E.

[37:10] Correct?

[37:10] Yep.

[37:10] Yeah, you can just.

[37:12] Circle through 'em sure.

[37:16] The proposed use will not definitly affect the surface water quality of the adjacent

[37:19] river or tributary or otherwise result in unhealthy.

[37:23] Unhelpful conditions

[37:25] pros use will not definitely affect the service water quality.

[37:28] Of the adjacent river at tributary nor result in Hanna falls.

[37:32] To fall unhelpful conditions, the only activities within Shoreland protection district consist of the

[37:36] temporary grading and establishment.

[37:38] Of the wetland replication plannings appropriate erosion, semi controls will be implemented during construction

[37:42] in the completed.

[37:43] Replication will provide vegetation and soil.

[37:46] That will protect water quality and support stormwater infiltration.

[37:50] Pro use will shut no wastewater on site other than the normally discharge by

[37:55] domestic wastewater disposal system and will not.

[37:58] We're not involved onsite storage or disposal of hazardous or toxic waste.

[38:03] As here and defined.

[38:05] The proposed use will not.

[38:07] There's no, basically there's no hazardous to toxic materials that will be stored.

[38:11] Stored

[38:12] or disposed within the shoreline protection jerseys as part of the proposed work, temporary

[38:15] grading and planning activities associated with the weld notification area will not generate.

[38:20] Wastewater

[38:20] or hazardous.

[38:22] Waste streams.

[38:24] The proposal used will not result in undue damage to spawning grounds.

[38:28] Grounds in other wild habitat.

[38:31] The work is limited to the creation and establishment of the wetland application area

[38:34] in associated temporary grading.

[38:36] No impacts are proposed to the adjacent perennial stream.

[38:39] As we know how we talk about how far away we are there.

[38:42] And the replication areas intended to restore and enhance wetland functions and habitat values

[38:47] A command completion of steward and vegetarians will continue to be provide wildlife habitat

[38:51] and ecological benefits within the district.

[38:55] The pros use complies with the use regulations defined.

[38:58] Defined, sorry, identified an article 9.3 0.4.

[39:00] Exodus Shoreland protection district ordinance.

[39:03] Use regulations in all other applicable sections of this article.

[39:08] The proposed use complies with the use regulations of article 9.3 0.4.

[39:13] In all of the applic provisions of article 9.3, the proposed activities are limited

[39:17] to the wetland application in restoration measures necessarily and mitigate proposing facts.

[39:22] Elsewhere on the site, no prohibited uses the structures I proposed within the show

[39:25] and protection district.

[39:27] The last one, the designing construction of the proposed use will be consistent with

[39:30] the intent.

[39:32] Of the purposes set forth in article article 9.3 0.1, Exodus shore land protection

[39:36] district ordinances, authority, and purpose.

[39:38] Designing construction of the pros use are consistent with.

[39:42] The purpose of the shoreline protection district as set forth in article 9.3 0.1

[39:46] closed wetland replication area has been designed to protect water quality.

[39:50] Serve natural resource functions, maintain wildlife habitat and support the long-term ecological health of

[39:56] the adjacent.

[39:57] Stream corridor.

[39:57] The limited temporary disturbance required for implementation will be stabilized and be vegetated.

[40:03] Resulting in restored wetland area, that

[40:05] advances the overall objectives of the district.

[40:10] Thank you.

[40:14] Anything further.

[40:18] Oh motion that we reviewed the short land, conditional use permit application, and are

[40:22] in support of the application as.

[40:24] Proposed

[40:26] second,

[40:29] any discussion.

[40:33] So all those in favor.

[40:35] Aye.

[40:36] Aye.

[40:36] All those opposed.

[40:38] And the motion passes for.

[40:40] To none.

[40:41] Great.

[40:42] I wish you luck.

[40:44] With the planning board.

[40:44] Thank you very much.

[40:45] Yeah.

[40:45] We have a TRC with them later this month, I think.

[40:48] And then we'll be in front of the board.

[40:50] In the beginning of October, maybe think about right.

[40:53] I think that's right next week's CRC, something like that.

[40:55] So yeah, we'll be in front of thank you very much for your time

[40:57] Thank you.

[40:58] Thank you.

[40:59] Thank you.

[40:59] Are you on the TRC?

[41:00] Kristen?

[41:01] I am.

[41:03] Typically

[41:05] we don't have an application come to you before it's been through TRC.

[41:08] Yeah, that was an error on my part because I didn't realize there was

[41:12] storm water.

[41:13] Such detailed storm water

[41:15] treatment.

[41:16] And so without a town engineer, fully staffed, we like to have Underwood take

[41:21] a look at it.

[41:21] So we sent them to TRC.

[41:23] But it seemed straightforward enough that I figured, and it'll still go.

[41:27] It'll still go.

[41:28] Yeah.

[41:28] Should, should.

[41:30] Something

[41:31] happen with stormwater.

[41:33] Design that increases buffer impacts.

[41:36] You know, it's a risk we'd come back, but I don't think that's likely

[41:43] And moving on forward.

[41:44] It seems like we only have committee reports.

[41:48] Thank you.

[41:49] Just one card in case

[41:51] you wanna talk about reins.

[41:53] Rains.

[41:54] Thank you.

[41:56] Thank you.

[42:01] You wanna talk about rains does keep sure.

[42:03] Either way he's got the shirt on.

[42:06] That's right.

[42:07] I like it.

[42:08] Kristen, go ahead.

[42:09] I'll we I'll I'll I'll join in which it we'll chime in.

[42:12] So

[42:13] at the last meeting.

[42:15] We're doing the boardwalk at the last meeting,

[42:18] I was tasked with doing a doodle poll or such to try to get

[42:22] a sidewalk scheduled.

[42:24] That went down in flames.

[42:25] Didn't get a whole lot of responses.

[42:27] So.

[42:28] My hope is that we, with all of us here together, we could set

[42:31] a date to move that forward.

[42:34] So that there's committee eyes on the site.

[42:37] Before you make choices.

[42:39] I know Keith.

[42:40] Is eager to at least have a go no-go conversation.

[42:44] Iation about that.

[42:46] Exactly.

[42:48] Yeah.

[42:49] I was like, oh, I'll just go out there on my own.

[42:51] Did I.

[42:53] No. I said the same thing and I did not.

[42:56] So.

[42:58] But we need, we need to have one.

[43:00] Correct.

[43:02] That's required.

[43:04] Required.

[43:04] Do we all go in as a quorum?

[43:05] I'm trying to, I don't, I'm not sure.

[43:07] I mean,

[43:08] I, I, I think that's a fair conversation.

[43:10] Not all applications.

[43:12] Come have a sidewalk associated with it.

[43:15] The commission said they want, they wanted to have a site walk to look

[43:18] at the site cuz it was salt.

[43:20] Marsh and yeah.

[43:21] Priority resource area.

[43:22] So in this case, I actually have a similar question about a future project

[43:26] later in on the agenda of your correspondence.

[43:28] But

[43:31] that was my understanding.

[43:33] Okay.

[43:34] That was the wishes of my understanding of the wishes of the board.

[43:41] So we need to make a sidewalk happen.

[43:43] Yeah,

[43:44] I, how do we do that?

[43:47] I think we just pick a.

[43:50] Time, do we want to do it before the next meeting?

[43:55] I think so I'd like that.

[43:57] Yes.

[43:58] If that's possible.

[43:58] Can we just say like,

[44:01] yeah, that's our sidewalk.

[44:02] And if someone else wants to come along and you just gotta post it

[44:05] 24 hours, right?

[44:06] Yeah.

[44:07] Right.

[44:10] So when, what, what works.

[44:13] It's yes.

[44:13] Another applicant comes along and they wanna also want to, we need to do

[44:17] another sidewalk.

[44:19] So I know we have you, you mean the night of the meeting?

[44:23] The night, the meeting.

[44:24] That's what I was thinking.

[44:24] We just do it at, for the October.

[44:27] Meeting.

[44:28] I do know there's a.

[44:31] Sidewalk and a potential second.

[44:34] I think it would, it's a quick walk.

[44:35] Could, I don't know.

[44:36] It seems like maybe you could.

[44:38] Do that another day, but, or we could just up.

[44:41] Yeah.

[44:41] It's, it's pretty,

[44:43] just, it's pretty quick.

[44:44] You go.

[44:45] Do the

[44:46] underpass and

[44:48] through the little wet area and then up on the Upland to the, to

[44:52] the site.

[44:54] And say, all right, this is.

[44:56] With landing was you or what we think it was based on the rocks

[45:00] Rocks the two large rocks that are there.

[45:04] Yeah, you sent the drone video of it.

[45:06] It's pretty cool.

[45:08] Yeah.So that's Joe stag?

[45:08] No, he does awesome work.

[45:10] So.

[45:13] You know, it seems pretty clear that that's where it was based on looking

[45:16] at the situation.

[45:17] So as far as a boardwalk,

[45:19] specifically goes

[45:22] you know, I like Joe's idea, which was, if you get across the 80

[45:26] feet,

[45:27] of wet is muddy area.

[45:30] With hummocks it's wetland.

[45:31] Okay.

[45:32] So with, with planking.

[45:35] And then you're on the Upland and you can go all the way across

[45:37] the Upland to the strip in the grasses, in the river.

[45:41] Or to your left and to the, you know, to the right is the

[45:44] railroad.

[45:45] Track

[45:46] often the distance, and then you.

[45:48] Come to a spot where that there's an opening, there's a little jut out

[45:52] of land.

[45:54] And there's a, a place.

[45:57] Where you could just build

[45:59] a.

[46:00] Observation platform or viewing platform, and it would not require a boardwalk, not require

[46:05] a lot of funds, not require.

[46:07] You know, this is basically the planking over the wet area.

[46:10] You're on the uplands.

[46:11] You can make a, there's sort of a trail there now.

[46:14] And then you come to an area that you can view the river and

[46:18] you could build a.

[46:20] A small platform there and you can see both ways up the river.

[46:22] It's it's very awesome.

[46:24] And you wouldn't be in the grasses.

[46:25] You wouldn't be in the.

[46:28] You know, in the area that you would be boring or any, you know

[46:30] like into.

[46:32] Again, I'm not an expert.

[46:33] Like you guys on the, on the, what's a film.

[46:36] It's not, it's not a marsh, right?

[46:38] It's not a marsh.

[46:38] You're you're, it's, it's an area that's on the edge of.

[46:41] The woods it's on the edge of the woods.

[46:42] Right?

[46:42] And so you have a great spot for a.

[46:45] A viewing platform.

[46:46] So this, you know, this, it kind of avoids the grandiose big boardwalk coming

[46:51] from the.

[46:52] You know, from the under, from the underpass and going all the way out

[46:56] and then out to the directly, out to the.

[46:59] Into the grasses and getting a, a dredge in fill permit and all these

[47:03] types of things.

[47:03] It's just, again, I don't have a ton of experience of.

[47:07] Of the permitting process.

[47:10] In fact none.

[47:11] So

[47:12] you know,

[47:13] I'm not, I just want to get out people out there and say, Hey

[47:16] this is.

[47:18] Cool.What a great spot.

[47:19] What can we do?

[47:20] What can't we do and how do we make it happen?

[47:22] Yeah.

[47:28] Yeah, I think it sounds like it should be separate from right before the

[47:31] meeting.

[47:32] For next time.

[47:32] Yeah.

[47:32] Or could we start earlier?

[47:34] I just worry about, so one of 'em is a.

[47:37] Could could be a complicated.

[47:40] Application.

[47:44] So I just worry about fitting it.

[47:46] Fitting three potential's three.

[47:48] Is there some time in the interim?

[47:50] Let's just do some other time then.

[47:51] Do we want to do a Tuesday?

[47:56] Yeah.

[47:56] I mean that narrows it.

[47:57] So.

[47:59] I'm available Tuesday I can do, can you do a Tuesday?

[48:02] Mm-hmm .

[48:06] So Tuesday the 15th.

[48:09] Is that what we're

[48:11] next Tuesday?

[48:12] Yeah, the 15th.

[48:17] I could do next Tuesday.

[48:18] Depends on the time.

[48:19] Yeah.

[48:19] If it's at five.

[48:21] You tell me

[48:23] .

[48:23] Yeah.

[48:24] That work.

[48:25] Yeah, I just can't do earlier.

[48:27] So yeah, Tuesday at five.

[48:29] Okay, do it.

[48:32] Put the word out to the others.

[48:34] You're making it in the calendar.

[48:36] Yeah.Great.

[48:36] Great.

[48:39] 5:00 PM.

[48:41] Five to five 30.

[48:44] We'll be five to six, Jessica.

[48:45] Yeah.

[48:46] Do five to six.

[48:49] Yeah, this there's quite a few.

[48:52] What I would call choices.

[48:55] To be made.

[48:58] There are you just made it seem very simple though?

[49:01] that's well, I mean, somebody might say, all right, well, we come.

[49:05] Out of the underpass and go this way and it's, you know, a little

[49:07] longer, but it's more direct or we go straight across and there's less impact

[49:11] on the wetlands or we go.

[49:13] Take a jog to the left and, and there's a high spot.

[49:15] And then we, you know, avoid a little bit there.

[49:16] So there's some discussion there.

[49:18] It does seem like the, you want to do direct crossings and.

[49:21] Stick to the Upland.

[49:24] Yes.

[49:24] You're your closest spot, right?

[49:26] So that's our avoidance and minimization, right?

[49:29] So the plan for the planking would just be to the only thing that

[49:32] would be touching would be four by four is so the planking would be

[49:35] 12 foot.

[49:37] Two boards four by four is underneath.

[49:39] So the only thing that would be touching the, the wetland would be the

[49:42] four by fours and there would be eight feet of those for every section

[49:45] And it requires

[49:48] wires,

[49:49] probably six.

[49:51] Or seven sections, depending on what we do.

[49:54] Eight foot eight times six, seven.

[49:56] So you'd be have, yeah, you'd have that much.

[49:58] Touching

[50:01] the

[50:03] impact area.

[50:05] You,

[50:05] but you're saying, is it flagged right now?

[50:07] If we go out.

[50:09] No, no, it's it's but there's, you know, it's been walked on so that

[50:13] it's been walked on there.

[50:14] The ferns are.

[50:15] Parted.And it's very clear as to what then once you get to the Upland

[50:18] part.

[50:20] There really is, is

[50:21] not.

[50:22] Like we saw today, overgrown, you know, like there's not a ton of bittersweet

[50:26] and there's not like a.

[50:28] The multi-floor rose or any of that.

[50:30] So it's pretty.

[50:31] Navigable.

[50:32] Nice.

[50:36] Sounds like we have a date.

[50:38] Do you need anything further on that?

[50:41] Nope.

[50:44] Great.

[50:45] Sticking with rains.

[50:47] Rains.

[50:47] All right.

[50:47] They assume that's the next one, right?

[50:50] The sure.

[50:50] Betsy Ross.

[50:53] Yeah.

[50:53] So we do have a flag that was donated.

[50:58] To

[51:00] from the customs house in Newbury, port of Betsy Ross flag, do we wanted

[51:03] to hang inside the barn for the show?

[51:06] For the art show.

[51:07] Oh, take it.

[51:07] We can take it down after that.

[51:10] But it's, it's very awesome.

[51:11] It's 12 by.

[51:13] 18 feet.

[51:14] So it's huge.

[51:16] And so, you know, picture that, covering that wall.

[51:19] That'll be put on the right hand side, just as a.

[51:22] Sort of a bonus for the two 50th for the.

[51:26] Art show coming up on the 26th.

[51:29] Should be good to interior area.

[51:31] Don't know why I was reading the, yeah, the exterior.

[51:34] Yeah, I'm gonna put it on the interior.

[51:38] Are there other interior?

[51:40] Requests.

[51:41] Oh, so

[51:43] the other interior request is that we're going, there's currently a flag Hener hanging

[51:47] in the center of the barn.

[51:48] We're gonna take that down.

[51:49] It's very nice flag, but it's.

[51:51] It's

[51:52] it's covering the

[51:55] Hayfork.

[51:56] Hayfork, which is in, in the ceiling and the rafters.

[51:59] Right.

[51:59] So we're gonna illuminate that.

[52:01] So that it's sort of highlighted as you, as you come in and look

[52:04] at it.

[52:04] It's huge.

[52:05] You can't see it.

[52:06] Cause it's dark up there.

[52:08] You know, and the other lights are below it.

[52:10] So you're kind of looking into lights and you're like,

[52:12] I think I see it, but if you get a flashlight, if we're gonna

[52:15] so we have a.

[52:16] A cupped

[52:18] spotlight.

[52:19] That will

[52:20] run.

[52:21] Down and, and plug into the outlet right below it.

[52:24] And we'll turn that off and on when we're in, in the barn and

[52:27] take it off, you know, turn it off when we're out.

[52:29] So.

[52:30] I think that will be.

[52:32] Pretty cool to take a look at that fork, which is.

[52:35] Pretty big

[52:36] it, you know, it's the one they, that they reeled up and.

[52:39] Put the, the bales up on, in the very third floor up there.

[52:42] So.

[52:43] Huh.

[52:45] .Yeah, I dunno.

[52:47] Cool.

[52:48] Yeah, that's pretty, pretty neat about that at all.

[52:49] Yeah.

[52:51] So you need a motion for the flag or anything.

[52:54] No just if the board is supportive,

[52:56] great.

[52:59] In case we trust.

[53:00] Yeah.

[53:00] ,

[53:01] don't say that.

[53:03] Okay.

[53:04] Very good.

[53:05] And, but it is important decisions are made by.

[53:08] Yeah.

[53:08] Yeah, no, I appreciate that.

[53:09] Thank you.

[53:10] Yeah.

[53:11] It's a very awesome flag.

[53:12] I looked it up as like, it's a lot of money for those types

[53:15] of flags.

[53:16] I had no idea

[53:17] and it's just unknown.

[53:18] We're not keeping it.

[53:20] No, it was given to us given we can, we can find the spot

[53:22] for it if it doesn't work in the long term.

[53:24] But I, I would, I think once you see it, you'll be impressed.

[53:28] Yeah.

[53:28] And we're going to keep it there.

[53:30] I mean, we don't know, we don't have to it's up to this board

[53:32] to figure out what they want to do after the art show.

[53:35] I'm just worried.

[53:36] About

[53:37] if it's worth a lot of money.

[53:38] Yeah.

[53:39] Like degrading, well it's given to us, so it's for it's free.

[53:42] It is covered.

[53:43] You know, it is inside.

[53:45] Okay.

[53:45] I don't think any rodents will eat it.

[53:47] I don't know.

[53:47] You never know in that place, but it's.

[53:51] Again, this get, you know, to the, to the core of this.

[53:53] Yeah.

[53:53] Is that if, if the more we.

[53:56] Use the barn, right?

[53:57] The less of that type of issue we'll have.

[53:59] So.

[54:01] There are bats, a couple of bats living in there.

[54:03] There's guano on the, on the floor occasionally and there are no longer any

[54:07] pigeons in there.

[54:08] So.

[54:09] Thanks for Kristen.

[54:10] so.

[54:14] Speaking of events and keeping it busy art in the barn.

[54:20] Yes.

[54:21] Do you have, you have a, you have a.

[54:25] A painting.

[54:26] I didn't bring one.

[54:27] So we've been receiving that looks nice.

[54:29] A lot of submissions.

[54:31] Really nice.

[54:32] Yep.

[54:33] Riverwood.

[54:34] I, I wanna say we're up to like 20.

[54:37] Maybe yeah, 20.

[54:38] And then I just got three more today.

[54:39] So 23 and then I know some folks here.

[54:42] Yeah.

[54:43] I just turned two of 'em in.

[54:44] Okay.

[54:45] Beverly has a dozen, at least great

[54:47] people are really excited about it.

[54:49] So I'll just show the one, one that was dropped off today.

[54:53] Oh, nice.

[54:53] You're not great.

[54:54] Some of them highlight that's strong.

[54:56] Some of them are, you know, just colorful and vibrant and beautiful others are

[55:00] you know,

[55:01] simple and line drawings and I just love how diverse all of it is

[55:06] but the event.

[55:08] As we talked about was September 26th.

[55:11] Keith and Beverly

[55:13] and Michelle have been hard at work, trying to.

[55:17] They met once, right.

[55:18] To talk about the logistics.

[55:21] Logistics for the event day.

[55:23] Beverly's been attaching.

[55:25] Hooks to the back of these so that they could be hung in the

[55:28] barn.

[55:28] Yep.

[55:28] There's plenty in a uniform.

[55:30] You should talk about that.

[55:30] yeah.

[55:31] In a uniform manner.

[55:31] Yeah.

[55:32] So she, you know, put the little screws.

[55:33] Screws in and then a wire.

[55:34] So they all hang.

[55:36] Hang nicely.

[55:37] There were some boards in the barn that were.

[55:40] I think they were won by eights.

[55:42] Eights.

[55:42] And we, we put those, you know, cleaned them off and put 'em up

[55:46] at eye level.

[55:47] Two, so it's wide.

[55:48] So we have a, a way to go and display them all there's room

[55:52] for like 110 mm-hmm .

[55:54] And there we could go around.

[55:56] And take those little signs that are there.

[55:59] That explain about the barn, move those temporarily.

[56:00] And there's another spot there.

[56:01] We can put another.

[56:04] 30 probably if that's the case.

[56:05] So we should be in good shape.

[56:07] So, what needs to be done from here is, is more, you know, that

[56:11] that room needs to be cleaned.

[56:14] We need to

[56:16] work on the reception.

[56:19] For the artist

[56:20] and we need to.

[56:23] You know, get the submissions, right.

[56:24] Get all the wires on and get everything.

[56:27] Hung up in the, in the week proceeding.

[56:29] And they had recently

[56:32] hayed again, which made the, the grass.

[56:35] Shorter.

[56:36] So that makes it good for parking.

[56:38] If if needed

[56:40] and

[56:41] what else should we discuss about that?

[56:44] That's an awesome painting.

[56:46] So the plan is we'll do an artist reception.

[56:50] Before the event for an hour and then a quick break and then open

[56:53] it up to the public from one to four.

[56:56] We'll need support for cleaning in advance for.

[57:00] Probably hanging the, you know,

[57:02] the paintings

[57:04] that morning before the artist's reception, Michelle volunteered to get some.

[57:08] Pastries.

[57:09] I think Beverly had talked about cocoa and coffee.

[57:13] Yeah.

[57:13] And tea and tea.

[57:15] Yeah.

[57:17] Yeah,

[57:18] so

[57:19] any and all help would be appreciated.

[57:21] I think, yeah, I could definitely help set up that morning.

[57:24] Okay.

[57:25] Great.

[57:25] Thank you.

[57:27] And just let me know.

[57:28] Yeah, no, I'll if there's other stuff.

[57:29] Yeah.

[57:30] Yep.

[57:31] So also I should mention that Michelle was able to, to

[57:34] get the sign at Foy insurance mm-hmm for the week proceedings.

[57:39] So.

[57:39] Saying, you know, art in the barn, rains barn.

[57:42] 26th.

[57:43] Oh, nice of September.

[57:44] So that's a very.

[57:46] Helpful thing.

[57:46] I mean that a lot of people see that.

[57:49] So that'll be good.

[57:50] So.

[57:51] We've had a lot of.

[57:55] You know, just talking to people.

[57:56] Good comments about, oh, I'm excited about, you know, I wanna see what this

[57:59] is and.

[58:00] And so we encourage everybody to, to come out and, and support.

[58:05] This event and support the barn.

[58:08] So one of the, the, the methods that I think we should.

[58:11] Discuss is probably,

[58:13] you know,

[58:14] a payment system about, you know, is it just gonna be.

[58:18] Cash or checked, cuz I, I was in Stillwells.

[58:22] Stillwells yesterday.

[58:23] and I saw a six and a seven year old paying with a

[58:26] card.

[58:27] And the seven year old was figuring out how to tip.

[58:31] And I was impressed with that.

[58:32] So things have.

[58:34] Have changed since I was a kid, I guess .

[58:36] So

[58:37] it was pretty cool to see him navigate that whole deal at age seven

[58:43] So I, I don't know.

[58:44] I, I I'm, I'm asking, I don't know what, what.

[58:48] Is there a, another way to it's good.

[58:50] That's a good thing to talk about.

[58:51] Yeah, I don't, I don't really know.

[58:53] The town doesn't have a Venmo system.

[58:56] Right.

[58:59] check or cash.

[59:00] Okay.

[59:01] Any donations over a hundred dollars, we need to offer a receipt.

[59:05] Yep.

[59:06] Can we do a Venmo?

[59:08] You, we did a, I sneak.

[59:11] We didn't do it that.

[59:16] Yes, we could just see how it goes.

[59:18] You know.

[59:19] Okay.

[59:19] I do have a Venmo, I guess if it came down to it, maybe

[59:23] We could use it.

[59:24] I don't have permission to do something like that, but.

[59:28] Yeah.

[59:30] Yeah, like not

[59:32] I'm trying to skirt the wall, but could they Venmo me and then right

[59:36] Donate mean the beauty of that, the beauty of Venmo going to an in

[59:40] Individual person is you do have a official record of transactions.

[59:45] So there's.

[59:47] There's no way to sort of doctor that up.

[59:49] Right from that

[59:50] Venmo, right?

[59:51] Yeah.

[59:51] But, but I do know

[59:53] in conversations.

[59:56] For associated with the 250th, they were hoping for Venmo and they were told

[1:00:00] town doesn't have such a thing.

[1:00:02] So.

[1:00:04] I think we'll just have to work it out day of, and.

[1:00:07] Okay.

[1:00:07] Go from there.

[1:00:08] Yeah.

[1:00:10] And hopefully people, I think we need checks or cash.

[1:00:13] I think we need.

[1:00:15] I would

[1:00:16] think we would want to incorporate it into some messaging.

[1:00:19] If, if we're not taking credit cards.

[1:00:22] Cards then people need to know that mm-hmm ahead of time.

[1:00:25] Mm-hmm .

[1:00:27] Cause, yeah, people, people are gonna generally show up the expectation.

[1:00:30] Yes.

[1:00:30] We're not gonna might not show up with cash or cards, right.

[1:00:33] Or checks.

[1:00:35] Checks, they might just have a credit card.

[1:00:37] So that could

[1:00:41] could slow the sails down.

[1:00:44] Venmo could be a help.

[1:00:47] Yes.

[1:00:48] Is there another method?

[1:00:50] That I'm, I don't know, not familiar with, could accept.

[1:00:53] Is there a business that we could partner with?

[1:00:57] Who could

[1:00:59] just thinking that art association or.

[1:01:03] Yeah, I mean,

[1:01:06] Sarah has, do you have a sponsor for you?

[1:01:08] I think Sarah has square and we could.

[1:01:12] but then again the same kind of thing.

[1:01:14] Yeah.

[1:01:14] And there's fees associated with that as well?

[1:01:17] Yes, there are.

[1:01:18] Yeah,

[1:01:20] right.

[1:01:21] Mm-hmm is there, is there a fee associated with Venmo?

[1:01:25] No, no, I don't not, not there.

[1:01:27] There can be a like commercial levels, but not the,

[1:01:31] not the typical personal yeah.

[1:01:32] Okay.

[1:01:35] Okay.

[1:01:36] Well, we just, why it's a good thing.

[1:01:37] Yeah.

[1:01:38] We should try to work on the details of that.

[1:01:41] If the cash or check should be.

[1:01:43] Definitely promoted, but

[1:01:45] maybe we could say cash or check.

[1:01:48] Preferred or yeah.

[1:01:51] Okay.

[1:01:53] They couldn't come in here to the city, like the next.

[1:01:56] Week and

[1:01:58] pay with the credit card, somewhere situation complicated.

[1:02:01] Okay.

[1:02:01] All right.

[1:02:01] Yeah, that would like give him a voucher or something.

[1:02:04] That'd be tough.

[1:02:05] Okay.

[1:02:05] All right.

[1:02:06] That.

[1:02:06] Could be a thing though.

[1:02:07] You like reserve one, you put the, I know that's what, like.

[1:02:12] At art openings.

[1:02:14] Openings.If someone wants to buy something.

[1:02:17] They can like say I'm gonna buy this.

[1:02:19] And then they put a sticker on it and says

[1:02:21] it's purchased.

[1:02:23] But they don't want to like take, have them, everybody run away with the

[1:02:27] art right now.

[1:02:28] Cuz you want people to be able to see the art.

[1:02:31] This is, do you know what I mean?

[1:02:32] This is a good

[1:02:33] if, if right, if you have these people come and say, oh yeah, I'm

[1:02:37] taking that.

[1:02:37] And that, and that, and that.

[1:02:39] And they walk out in the first 20 minutes, then you just lost your

[1:02:42] the 10 best.

[1:02:43] Well, we did say, oh, that's a good point.

[1:02:45] The art would remain through the end of the event.

[1:02:47] Through the end of the event.

[1:02:48] Yep.

[1:02:48] Okay.

[1:02:50] Yeah.So that's, that's a good idea.

[1:02:51] And just so you could have a way where someone says I'm gonna buy

[1:02:55] it, I'm gonna buy this and I'll pay a.

[1:02:58] Check next week and we say, okay, but I don't know.

[1:03:01] Yeah.

[1:03:01] That how that would work.

[1:03:02] That might be okay.

[1:03:03] I don't know that.

[1:03:05] Hm.

[1:03:06] Ideally it would be cash or check at the event.

[1:03:09] Yes.

[1:03:09] Yeah.

[1:03:10] Like when they, I mean, they can look at it in the morning, say

[1:03:12] I want it.

[1:03:14] Kick cash, come back.

[1:03:14] Go home.

[1:03:15] Yeah, I guess they could just come back.

[1:03:16] Okay.

[1:03:17] Yeah.

[1:03:17] All right, Adam, I'm not trying to make it complicated, but no, no, no

[1:03:20] That's a good point.

[1:03:21] And we could, we could.

[1:03:22] I will double check with Corey to see if there's a way that I

[1:03:25] could.

[1:03:26] Collect it through Venmo.

[1:03:28] Yeah.

[1:03:29] I don't think I can.

[1:03:30] And you know, it's not getting dark until six 30.

[1:03:33] We could stay a little later.

[1:03:34] If people wanted to come, I would be glad to stay a little later

[1:03:36] and have people can come back a little, you know, after.

[1:03:39] Afterwards and, and bring a check or whatever, you know, and.

[1:03:43] Flexible with that for sure.

[1:03:45] Okay.

[1:03:47] Or if they can't take 'em till the end of the event and they

[1:03:51] don't want to stay, I don't know how, how long has the event.

[1:03:54] One to four, one to four, I guess it's not that long.

[1:03:57] No.

[1:04:00] We'll figure that out.

[1:04:01] Yeah.

[1:04:02] I said, if we could stay a little longer, if they want to say

[1:04:04] oh, I'll open to Oklahoma, come back, whatever.

[1:04:06] Yeah.

[1:04:06] You know, so, okay.

[1:04:08] Is there a plan for leftovers?

[1:04:11] Leftovers

[1:04:12] the food.

[1:04:13] No, no, the, I know I'm kidding.

[1:04:15] I know so there was talk of having some sort of crap of

[1:04:19] Follow up craft fair.

[1:04:20] Beverly had mentioned that.

[1:04:21] Yes.

[1:04:21] So she'd discussed around Christmas time or November.

[1:04:25] Thanks Thanksgiving area.

[1:04:27] Of piece of art to give sort of another opportunity for people to buy

[1:04:31] as you get closer to the holidays, maybe with the, yeah, with the.

[1:04:35] Holiday celebration downtown.

[1:04:37] Yeah.

[1:04:38] Okay.

[1:04:38] Yeah.

[1:04:38] So there there's some.

[1:04:40] Discussion of having sort of a craft fair.

[1:04:43] In the barn type of thing.

[1:04:44] Mm-hmm, like, you know, like they have it CMS or one of these

[1:04:47] types of events and then keep, take the.

[1:04:51] The art as part of that and with, you know, selling like.

[1:04:56] Soap or corn bags or pot holders or what, you know, the right various

[1:05:00] ephemera.

[1:05:02] So.

[1:05:04] Which would mean another event at the barn.

[1:05:07] Yes.

[1:05:07] Oh, wow.

[1:05:07] Yes.

[1:05:09] Keeps on giving.

[1:05:11] In

[1:05:12] any other committee reports?

[1:05:14] I feel like we haven't heard.

[1:05:18] Just a couple items.

[1:05:19] So tomorrow I think you all have received a couple emails from me about

[1:05:25] a.

[1:05:25] A walk

[1:05:26] at the river, run community at five 30 to take a look at the

[1:05:31] Riverbank restoration project.

[1:05:32] It's kind of a cool opportunity to.

[1:05:35] See

[1:05:36] kind of a hybrid living shoreline constructed shoreline project.

[1:05:41] In process.

[1:05:43] And so if you remember a wetland application came to you, mm-hmm , there

[1:05:46] were bank failures along the Exeter river shoreline.

[1:05:51] And so they secured some grant funding, a mix of private.

[1:05:55] Funding and they're putting a pretty complicated and.

[1:05:58] Detailed

[1:05:59] riverbank restoration project together.

[1:06:01] So.

[1:06:02] They invited

[1:06:03] planning board conservation commission river study committee.

[1:06:06] To

[1:06:07] and Exeter squam Scott local advisory committee to take a look at the site

[1:06:13] Great.

[1:06:13] As far as I know, there's no rain, cancellations

[1:06:16] prepared or planned.

[1:06:18] Weather looks pretty good tomorrow.

[1:06:19] Okay.

[1:06:19] It's cloudy.

[1:06:20] So,

[1:06:21] so it should be a go.

[1:06:23] We're gonna meet at the community center.

[1:06:26] And then the other thing, there has been some progress on the pickpocket dam

[1:06:30] If you.

[1:06:32] So there, I think in the final design stages, they got the results of

[1:06:36] the.

[1:06:37] Phase one archeological investigation.

[1:06:39] And I believe we're starting phase two.

[1:06:41] So if you have not, the there's a website dedicated to it, but if

[1:06:45] you.

[1:06:45] Have not checked in with the pickpocket

[1:06:47] dam project.

[1:06:48] It might be interesting for you to.

[1:06:51] Take a look at that website.

[1:06:54] Is Trevor been going to this?

[1:06:56] Yep.

[1:06:56] Yeah.

[1:06:57] Yeah.

[1:06:57] Trevor's participated.

[1:07:00] And then the tree committee.

[1:07:01] We have a grant to plant 28 trees over the next two years, we

[1:07:05] had.

[1:07:06] 15 sites

[1:07:07] marked out and dig saved.

[1:07:09] So we'll be able to plant those this year.

[1:07:11] Great.

[1:07:12] So some great progress there.

[1:07:13] We're focus.

[1:07:14] Focusing on front street on the far end of front street.

[1:07:21] And then

[1:07:23] yeah.

[1:07:23] And that's it.

[1:07:24] I had other stuff up for correspondence, but that's later in the agenda.

[1:07:28] And the September 25th, is there still room in that plan?

[1:07:32] Reading?

[1:07:33] Seminar.

[1:07:34] Oh, probably I'm not hosting the seminar.

[1:07:36] Right.

[1:07:36] I suspect so.

[1:07:37] Okay.

[1:07:37] Yeah.

[1:07:38] We, I, I think.

[1:07:42] I don't know if I, I thought I heard someone had registered to okay

[1:07:47] So if, if you do want to register, go ahead and then send me

[1:07:50] the receipt.

[1:07:50] I'll get you reimbursed.

[1:07:51] Okay.

[1:07:51] There's enough funds left

[1:07:53] in the budget.

[1:07:54] Con com budget.

[1:07:55] Even if people do attend the N H a C C annual meeting.

[1:07:59] So.

[1:08:06] There was talk at the.

[1:08:09] Somewhat recent select board meeting.

[1:08:11] I don't know if anyone was there or listened to it.

[1:08:14] About creating this

[1:08:15] pedestrian.

[1:08:18] Bike.

[1:08:19] Accessibility committee.

[1:08:22] Safety committee mm-hmm to try to improve.

[1:08:26] Pedestrian access mm-hmm .

[1:08:29] But they didn't actually create the committee.

[1:08:33] But it might be created at a future date.

[1:08:35] Talking about the pros and cons.

[1:08:37] Yeah of another subcommittee and.

[1:08:41] Maybe taking another look at all of the committees and.

[1:08:46] To not spread resources too thin.

[1:08:49] Cuz town has a lot of committees and subcommittees.

[1:08:53] Subcommittees.Yeah.And one thing that struck me in that conversation, which I didn't fully.

[1:08:57] Realize, but I, I guess it makes obvious obvious when I say it here

[1:09:01] is that.

[1:09:02] There's town staff.

[1:09:04] And select board.

[1:09:05] Who's not here tonight, but the select board goes to all of these.

[1:09:09] I mean, I can't imagine being the select board.

[1:09:12] Member and having to go to the select board meetings, which are every other

[1:09:15] week, but then it's four nights to go to two other yeah.

[1:09:18] Committee meetings.

[1:09:20] Meetings.Right.

[1:09:21] And they seemed pretty intent on.

[1:09:24] Not creating sort of

[1:09:27] more

[1:09:29] committees that are not under the purview of that.

[1:09:33] Sort of framework, which makes sense to connect everybody and.

[1:09:37] It's it's, it's a lot of work.

[1:09:38] It's it makes it the limit.

[1:09:41] It's tough because a lot of times.

[1:09:43] I shouldn't say a lot of times, but quite a few times, there's not

[1:09:45] a quorum.

[1:09:47] Quorum.

[1:09:47] So there's

[1:09:48] you don't the meeting is canceled, right?

[1:09:50] So.

[1:09:52] But that's not really known until sometimes the day before.

[1:09:56] Like, or the, you know, and so I've, or the, a couple days before

[1:10:00] So that makes it

[1:10:03] tough on everybody's schedule, you know, especially town staff and, and select board.

[1:10:08] Representatives that's, that's kind of how I read into it that I was like

[1:10:12] well, they're already go, you know,

[1:10:15] doing something some up to four nights a week.

[1:10:20] The select board reps.

[1:10:21] And then, you know, you know what I mean?

[1:10:23] You got a calendar and then it gets, yeah, it gets canceled.

[1:10:26] And if it gets canceled two months in a row,

[1:10:30] stuff builds up and you know what I mean?

[1:10:31] There's, there's, it's not efficient.

[1:10:34] For getting stuff done in a timely basis.

[1:10:38] So

[1:10:39] I think that was part of the concern as well.

[1:10:45] That's all.

[1:10:45] I just wanted to mention as.

[1:10:51] Do we want to go into the approval of minutes and then do correspondence

[1:10:54] or sounds.

[1:10:57] I went through.

[1:11:00] I forgot last meeting was.

[1:11:05] After the fact.

[1:11:05] Okay.

[1:11:07] Oh, goodness.

[1:11:07] Yes, it was.

[1:11:09] Yeah, August 11th.

[1:11:14] I didn't see anything of note.

[1:11:17] Anyone else did

[1:11:19] I didn't either.

[1:11:21] I didn't.

[1:11:28] Sounds good.

[1:11:29] He does a great job.

[1:11:30] My name is spelled with one N but.

[1:11:32] I'm not gonna lose sleep over it.

[1:11:40] So

[1:11:41] do we motion for this?

[1:11:42] So yeah, you should motion.

[1:11:44] Sidewalk and meeting minutes separate.

[1:11:48] Was there a sidewalk?

[1:11:52] Was there a sidewalk meeting minutes that I missed.

[1:11:55] Yes, there were

[1:11:59] okay, so we'll do the meeting minutes.

[1:12:02] A motion to approve the meeting minutes as, as drafted.

[1:12:06] From August 11.

[1:12:09] Second.

[1:12:11] Any discussion.

[1:12:13] All those in favor.

[1:12:14] Aye.

[1:12:15] All those opposed.

[1:12:17] Motion passes forward.

[1:12:20] O, and then for the state walk,

[1:12:24] any

[1:12:26] edits or discussion on that, on those meeting minutes.

[1:12:31] Nope.

[1:12:32] No, a motion to approve.

[1:12:34] I'll second.

[1:12:34] It.

[1:12:36] All those in favor and say, aye.

[1:12:38] Aye.

[1:12:39] All those opposed.

[1:12:39] Aye.

[1:12:41] Motion passes.

[1:12:43] Asses correspondence.

[1:12:45] So I, I had

[1:12:48] one thing, one

[1:12:50] I guess inquiry from an applicant.

[1:12:53] So we have

[1:12:55] Unitil has a utility line corridor project.

[1:12:59] That

[1:13:00] is within a, an existing corridor.

[1:13:02] It goes from drink water road through the academy property up toward like the

[1:13:08] Gil Gilman lane.

[1:13:09] Mm-hmm .

[1:13:10] And then there's an additional extension that crosses that spans the river and then

[1:13:15] connects to it also on academy property.

[1:13:19] And

[1:13:20] we typically don't do sidewalks for.

[1:13:23] Power line projects.

[1:13:25] Projects, but they wanted me to confirm that you, we wouldn't get there that

[1:13:29] night and that you would wanna sidewalk before taking action on the application, which

[1:13:33] I think is a.

[1:13:34] Fair request.

[1:13:35] I think most of the utility line projects that.

[1:13:38] We review have been in the town forest.

[1:13:40] So you're all probably pretty familiar with the location anyway.

[1:13:44] But or rains farm.

[1:13:45] So.

[1:13:47] I guess just an inquiry as to whether you feel.

[1:13:51] That a site visit to something like that would be helpful.

[1:13:56] And if, so

[1:13:57] we would add that.

[1:13:59] Prior to the meeting.

[1:14:04] Concerned about a specific area.

[1:14:07] I feel like linear projects are often.

[1:14:09] Large.

[1:14:10] And that's where we go.

[1:14:11] Two sidewalks.

[1:14:12] Sidewalks?

[1:14:13] No. I mean, so it's, so the corridor that goes from drink, water road

[1:14:18] Up toward,

[1:14:20] I'm pretty sure it's Gilman lane, but the Northern DEA. Huh?

[1:14:24] Two P like behind the field.

[1:14:25] Yeah.

[1:14:25] Through pea.

[1:14:26] Yeah.

[1:14:26] That's going

[1:14:27] that.

[1:14:29] A portion of that is, does have an AC an access road developed mm-hmm

[1:14:33] the other one, the access road is grown in and so they wanna

[1:14:36] re.

[1:14:37] Reestablish it much like they did in the town forest.

[1:14:41] So, you know,

[1:14:44] that's one section and then the other.

[1:14:47] Sort of connection to the west.

[1:14:49] Across the river,

[1:14:51] it trips both a Shoreland.

[1:14:53] And a

[1:14:54] wetland conditional use permit.

[1:14:56] So, but there's a variety of places of the, of those buffer impacts throughout

[1:15:01] both.

[1:15:03] Corridors.

[1:15:11] I'm happy with that.

[1:15:12] Say visit

[1:15:13] no site visit.

[1:15:14] Yeah, I don't, I don't think that's okay.

[1:15:17] Unless they're planning on

[1:15:19] filling, but I feel like utility projects usually don't fill a wetlands by.

[1:15:26] I, I can confirm that.

[1:15:28] I, I don't think so.

[1:15:29] I mean, there's some PO like there might be minor, Phil.

[1:15:33] If a poll moves, for example.

[1:15:35] Yeah.

[1:15:35] I just meant like, but work area, like they're using timber mats.

[1:15:38] Yeah.

[1:15:38] It's

[1:15:39] temporary impacts for most of it with timber, Matt.

[1:15:41] Matting, they're doing

[1:15:43] a culvert replacement.

[1:15:44] I think in two locations.

[1:15:47] Locations

[1:15:48] so that the access road can pass wetland.

[1:15:51] Sections.

[1:15:54] But nothing, not like a major weather and fill associated with it.

[1:15:57] For sure.

[1:15:59] Okay.

[1:16:00] Yeah.

[1:16:00] In my experience, the only time we've done site visits or that I do

[1:16:03] site visits for utility projects, when we do a standard judgment.

[1:16:07] Fill mm-hmm .

[1:16:09] That doesn't really sound like that's the case for this one.

[1:16:11] That's a good policy.

[1:16:15] Yeah, I'm good with that.

[1:16:17] Great.

[1:16:18] And then the second one is sort of not correspondence, but I have another

[1:16:23] I guess I should have brought it up under other.

[1:16:25] Business.

[1:16:25] But many meetings ago, we talked about sort of honoring honoring conservation commission.

[1:16:31] Members who have served 10 or more years and we were going to do

[1:16:35] Recognition on the benches out at rains, but in thinking about that, you know

[1:16:40] just being exposed to the elements, all of that just didn't quite make.

[1:16:43] Sense.

[1:16:43] So

[1:16:44] we created a board to recognize those members and I'd love to have this

[1:16:48] posted at rains or.

[1:16:52] Or potentially here in the town office building.

[1:16:54] I think having it at rains is a little more.

[1:16:57] Like con calm,

[1:16:58] specific.

[1:16:59] So,

[1:17:00] but.

[1:17:02] I just wanted to get your thoughts on that, where you'd like, ultimately for

[1:17:05] that to go.

[1:17:09] If hanging it rains makes sense.

[1:17:10] Or if you wanna consider something more formal, like the town office.

[1:17:17] I think rain.

[1:17:18] I like rain Oaklands.

[1:17:19] No, yeah, yeah,

[1:17:21] yeah.

[1:17:23] On.

[1:17:23] The back of it.

[1:17:26] no.

[1:17:27] I think rains is perfect.

[1:17:28] Okay.

[1:17:29] Yeah.

[1:17:30] I like that.

[1:17:31] Great.

[1:17:32] What's what's Andrew at Andrew.

[1:17:35] I think I'm at 10.

[1:17:36] Oh yeah.

[1:17:36] Yep.

[1:17:37] Nice.

[1:17:38] And then I sort of preemptively.

[1:17:40] So.

[1:17:42] Doug Eastman actually put this together.

[1:17:44] I'm not a detail person.

[1:17:46] so I couldn't have like, Doug did it.

[1:17:47] All of this.

[1:17:49] Equally spaced and all of that.

[1:17:50] So I'm very thankful to his effort in that process.

[1:17:54] Some of some names were preemptively added, so they.

[1:17:57] Have to stay on the board another year, but oh

[1:18:00] yeah.

[1:18:01] But it, it, it's great to see.

[1:18:03] I mean, these are names from the very beginning of the.

[1:18:05] Establishment of the conservation commission in 68.

[1:18:08] All the way through now.

[1:18:09] Oh, wow.

[1:18:10] Wow.

[1:18:10] Yeah.

[1:18:11] Awesome.

[1:18:11] Yeah.

[1:18:13] And I mean, that's, that's some work to comb through all that.

[1:18:15] Absolutely.

[1:18:16] Yeah.

[1:18:16] Oh yeah.

[1:18:16] Yeah.

[1:18:17] But fun, right?

[1:18:18] Yeah.

[1:18:19] Fun.

[1:18:20] To think about and

[1:18:22] acknowledge and recognize

[1:18:23] that long that's a long time to dedicate to a volunteer board.

[1:18:28] Hmm, desires recognition in my opinion.

[1:18:33] That's excellent.

[1:18:34] That's cool.

[1:18:35] That's thanks for doing that.

[1:18:36] Yeah.

[1:18:38] Want to look at the list.

[1:18:39] Yeah.

[1:18:41] We'll hang that up before the show.

[1:18:43] Sounds good.

[1:18:43] Yeah.

[1:18:44] Definitely

[1:18:47] I was gonna mention one thing about as the treasurer.

[1:18:51] Am I the treasurer?

[1:18:51] I think I'm the treasurer.

[1:18:52] You're still the treasurer.

[1:18:53] Just the, we had some talk.

[1:18:55] Last meeting about the budget.

[1:18:57] And, you know, we're going for some things.

[1:19:01] And Kristen, as far as I understand.

[1:19:04] Head of had a good meeting.

[1:19:05] I wasn't there for it and knew Dave didn't show up either, but you

[1:19:09] had a good meeting.

[1:19:10] Yeah, we presented.

[1:19:11] So your.

[1:19:12] You're requesting an increased budget in a tight budget year.

[1:19:15] And.

[1:19:17] And the town manager and assistant town manager and finance director were supportive.

[1:19:21] They felt like the reasoning was justified.

[1:19:23] And so.

[1:19:24] It was good to have an increased budget request supported.

[1:19:29] The next steps from there, it goes to a budget subcommittee.

[1:19:31] They sort of,

[1:19:33] you know,

[1:19:34] either review, ask, ask

[1:19:37] questions.

[1:19:38] Questions.And then they present that to the full budget committee.

[1:19:42] Ultimately that's the entity who presents it to the select board.

[1:19:47] And then from the select board, it goes onto the town warrant.

[1:19:51] So we have a meeting coming up.

[1:19:54] Before next meeting.

[1:19:55] Mm-hmm the 30th.

[1:19:58] Trying to go to

[1:20:00] September 30th.

[1:20:01] That's the budget.

[1:20:03] Yeah, the full budget, full budget committee.

[1:20:04] Mm-hmm so I think Dave and I might try to go to that

[1:20:08] It's six 30.

[1:20:10] September 30th and that's opened to everybody that's open.

[1:20:12] Yes.

[1:20:12] Yeah.

[1:20:12] So anyone else can come too?

[1:20:14] Six 30 on the, what day of the week is that?

[1:20:16] It's a Wednesday.

[1:20:17] Okay.

[1:20:19] Thank you.

[1:20:20] I can try to remind you.

[1:20:23] If you're interested.

[1:20:23] Appreciate that.

[1:20:24] Thank you.

[1:20:25] Okay.

[1:20:28] And then I think there's one in October, too.

[1:20:31] There's another

[1:20:33] whatever the next iteration is.

[1:20:36] There were two night meetings that I was gonna go to.

[1:20:38] I think C I P C I P potentially.

[1:20:40] Yeah.

[1:20:43] But I'll let you know before that, how the subcommittee conversation goes.

[1:20:47] sure.

[1:20:47] Connect with.

[1:20:51] Anything else you wanna discuss before the closeout?

[1:20:58] They broke ground.

[1:21:00] Are they cleared the Ray farm.

[1:21:03] That's gotten cleared.

[1:21:05] They just did none.

[1:21:10] Huh?

[1:21:12] Yeah.

[1:21:13] The intent cut was approved by the select board or, you know, received by

[1:21:17] the select board.

[1:21:19] Two meetings ago.

[1:21:20] So,

[1:21:22] Hmm.

[1:21:23] Hmm.

[1:21:27] Well, then I will motion.

[1:21:29] This meeting is adjourned at eight.

[1:21:31] 16

[1:21:32] next meeting is the 13th submission deadline of.

[1:21:36] October 2nd,

[1:21:39] second.

[1:21:39] That

[1:21:41] all those in favor, say aye.

[1:21:44] Aye.Aye.

[1:21:44] Aye.

[1:21:45] Oh, there's post.

[1:21:48] Motion passes.

[1:21:50] Passes to zero.

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Conservation Commission - 09/08/26

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