[0:01] I called the meeting door at 6 PM.

[0:07] Yeah.

[0:08] Has everybody had a chance to look at

[0:10] the

[0:12] minutes

[0:14] from last month?

[0:22] I can I can move to approve them.

[0:31] All right, Chris moved to approve the

[0:33] minutes. Second of August 5th.

[0:38] >> All those in favor?

[0:39] >> I.

[0:41] >> Those opposed?

[0:43] >> The eyes have it.

[0:46] >> Okay. The You want treasures report?

[0:49] >> Yes, please.

[0:50] >> Um I passed out the one that says July

[0:54] 30th is the one we're looking at. and

[0:56] you'll see um that it's fiscal year 2027

[1:01] and it's got all the budgets and most

[1:04] things have not been used. There is an

[1:07] odd thing. She had two different numbers

[1:10] for books in her paperwork and I think

[1:13] it's the 112781

[1:16] that I put at the bottom because my

[1:18] total didn't add up. Um, but she had put

[1:22] the 1,114

[1:25] in the place that I thought it was

[1:26] supposed to be in. So, I left that

[1:28] there. It's only $13 difference. So, you

[1:32] know, my mother would say if you're a

[1:35] penny off, you're in trouble. But, um,

[1:38] >> but since I know what what the

[1:40] discrepancy is, I left that. Now, if you

[1:43] look under encumbered funds, you'll see

[1:45] that I've added the 20 25 26 encumbered.

[1:52] Amy last month was concerned that it was

[1:55] a higher amount than we usually have and

[2:00] Jenny and I, we went over that a little

[2:02] bit. Is are were there inspections that

[2:06] didn't get done? Is that part of the

[2:08] problem? Yep. There were um inspections

[2:11] that um hadn't been completed that are

[2:15] well the sprinkler is an expensive

[2:17] expense ex inspection.

[2:20] Um and then

[2:23] the

[2:25] that was the one that I hadn't done this

[2:28] past year. Um I think $500 was last

[2:32] year's or the the previous time it was

[2:34] Dun's bill.

[2:37] in my report. It still hasn't happened.

[2:38] The guy scheduled to come and didn't

[2:40] show up. So, um I can go with the other

[2:44] company when we get to that part. We can

[2:46] >> So, the only the only thought I had was

[2:50] maybe we should take that out of the

[2:51] escrow account when it comes if it was

[2:55] really last year's.

[2:57] >> But we have to talk to Amy about that

[2:59] because I don't know how that works.

[3:01] >> Um

[3:03] >> I had another thought. And the reason we

[3:05] encumber all that money is because we

[3:09] get the check at the end of June and we

[3:13] can't spend the entire quarter. That's

[3:15] got to take us through the first quarter

[3:18] of

[3:19] >> of the year. But if you look if you look

[3:22] at the balance that's in our checking

[3:24] account right now, we're we've got a

[3:28] fair amount of money in there.

[3:30] Um,

[3:32] so I had one other thought. Oh, the

[3:36] other thing is that in 2025,

[3:40] we had a few weeks that we paid Jenny

[3:44] and Carol. So, the payroll was higher in

[3:48] 2025 than it was in 2026.

[3:51] So, that might account for it, too. And

[3:54] then I've got some CD work to to go

[3:57] over. I gave you June 20, June 30th,

[4:01] just for FYI when we do the budget.

[4:17] So, I think we should

[4:20] um go with the one year. I know it's not

[4:23] that much more. Do we want to

[4:26] >> do you want do you want this to be a

[4:28] part of the treasur's report then?

[4:30] >> I it can be

[4:31] >> okay.

[4:32] >> Um we have two CDs coming due. It's if

[4:36] you look on the back of this report,

[4:40] it's the 20

[4:44] the 9029 one and the 9011

[4:50] um and the community bank $10,000

[4:56] that u was the Carnegie money I I put in

[5:00] for seven months cuz that was the best

[5:02] deal and I figured that was fine. these

[5:06] other two a year is a better deal. It's

[5:09] the difference between 2.7 and 2 almost

[5:12] three. Um

[5:16] my only question is if it comes due next

[5:19] August, are we going to need that money

[5:21] for something? Um but

[5:26] » you're not losing anything if you we

[5:28] have to pull it out earlier. Yeah,

[5:30] >> that's true. That's true.

[5:32] >> And we have some funding. So

[5:34] >> yeah. So,

[5:35] >> okay.

[5:36] >> Go with the better interest rate.

[5:38] >> So, we'll go with the better interest

[5:39] rate.

[5:40] >> So, somebody need I will make

[5:43] um I will move that we

[5:46] >> renew our our two Mnt Bank CDs for a

[5:52] full year.

[5:53] >> For a full year. I'll second.

[5:55] >> All those in favor?

[5:57] >> I.

[5:57] >> Those opposed?

[6:00] >> The eyes have it. And then we need an

[6:02] approval for the

[6:05] um

[6:06] >> budget

[6:06] >> for the report.

[6:08] >> Who seconded the motion for um

[6:12] >> Melissa? Good.

[6:18] [clears throat]

[6:19] >> I will move that we accept we approve

[6:22] the treasures report

[6:24] of July 31st.

[6:29] >> Yeah. Thank you. July 31st,

[6:33] 2026.

[6:36] » I'll second.

[6:38] >> All those in favor?

[6:40] >> I.

[6:40] >> Those opposed? The eyes have it.

[6:45] >> I mean, it's really hard to know how

[6:47] well we're doing since it's really only

[6:49] one month into the into the fiscal year.

[6:54] >> Um, before we get going, did do you need

[6:57] to talk about something? I I didn't know

[6:59] if Jenny had it on the agenda. The um

[7:03] don't issue. [snorts]

[7:05] >> Thank you.

[7:08] [clears throat]

[7:09] >> So, um if I may have two minutes. Um

[7:13] I've cleaned this library for 10 years

[7:15] and I've taken the trash to the dump and

[7:18] no one cared. But now they've really,

[7:21] you know, they'll arrest me if I show up

[7:23] without a sticker. And since this is my

[7:26] job, I use my car. Um, and I don't have

[7:30] a sticker. Uh, so Hugh has used his

[7:32] truck um, and taken stuff, but yeah, he

[7:37] doesn't really like to take his truck

[7:38] cuz, you know.

[7:39] >> So, do you want us to buy you a sticker?

[7:42] >> I I think honestly I think you should go

[7:44] to the town and say the town municipal

[7:48] library and, you know, we should have a

[7:51] sticker. And I don't go to the dump only

[7:54] with the library. Um

[7:58] trash

[7:58] >> the transfer station. You mean?

[8:00] >> Yeah. No. No. I mean don't. [laughter]

[8:04] >> I flipped your

[8:05] >> And are they are they charging you for

[8:09] >> No, I No, they haven't charged me. Um I

[8:13] haven't had a problem there. And I don't

[8:16] suspect they will, but I don't know. I

[8:18] just, you know, I don't want the town

[8:20] clerk arrested for not having a state

[8:22] >> and and and we don't either.

[8:25] >> So I, you know,

[8:27] >> I suppose we can actually

[8:29] >> go to the select board.

[8:31] >> My first question is is is that your

[8:33] job?

[8:34] >> What? To go to the dump?

[8:35] >> Yeah.

[8:36] >> Yes, it is.

[8:36] >> She's a custodian.

[8:38] >> Yeah, that's part of my custodial duties

[8:40] >> for here.

[8:41] >> Yes.

[8:42] >> Right.

[8:42] >> Yes. But I'm asking for the town itself

[8:45] for the

[8:46] >> No, they they see they pick up there's

[8:48] somebody that picks up their trash. But

[8:50] for 10 years, I have, you know, taken

[8:53] the garbage from here.

[8:55] >> So they pay for a service to be have it

[8:57] picked up or somebody in the town picks

[8:59] it up?

[8:59] >> Yeah. Somebody comes in every now and

[9:01] again and and grabs their stuff. But I

[9:04] have and I don't mind doing it. It's not

[9:06] It's And I always say I've never I've

[9:08] never had a sticker. and saw, you know,

[9:11] everyone knows that I'm coming for the

[9:14] library. Of course,

[9:15] >> except for the new guys.

[9:16] >> The new guys. But I said when I when I

[9:18] went with um Hugh drove his truck cuz I

[9:22] hadn't been in two months waiting for

[9:25] something waiting for kind of fallout to

[9:27] happen. Um, and I've actually even

[9:31] talked to people within the office to

[9:33] say, you know, maybe people who work for

[9:34] the town in some capacity like this has

[9:37] a different color sticker that allows

[9:39] them in. Um,

[9:42] I don't know. I've never floated that

[9:44] idea to the board, um, the select board,

[9:47] but it it doesn't make sense that the

[9:49] library should have to pay. And, you

[9:51] know, cross my heart, hope to die. You

[9:53] know, I I don't go to the dump just

[9:55] randomly with my car. So, it's only the

[9:58] library stuff that goes,

[10:02] but that needs to be brought up to the select board, but you know, it's

[10:06] not that it's not my place as as a

[10:09] janitor to do it.

[10:10] >> And we we we

[10:13] currently would have to go to Terry

[10:17] Perry.

[10:18] >> I think that would be a select board

[10:20] >> a select board issue.

[10:22] >> That would be more of a select board

[10:23] issue. So,

[10:25] >> do we submit it? Do we submit it to

[10:27] Terry and Bill and ask to be put on the

[10:31] >> the agenda for the select board?

[10:33] >> Yeah,

[10:34] >> I think that's probably our next step.

[10:37] >> And when is the next meeting? 15th.

[10:41] >> I'm not going to be here.

[10:45] » September 15th, which is a Tuesday.

[10:48] >> BCA meeting before.

[10:49] >> And I won't be here that day either,

[10:54] >> you know. Or you could maybe just write

[10:55] a letter.

[10:56] >> I think I think as secretary I'm more

[10:59] than happy

[11:00] >> to

[11:01] >> write a letter

[11:01] >> to write a letter

[11:03] >> and ask and in the meantime.

[11:07] >> Well, you know, [clears throat] I can

[11:09] get you to take it. You know,

[11:12] >> I'll I'll do it tomorrow. First of all,

[11:14] before I call, I'll call I I mean,

[11:17] before I write it, I'll call her up

[11:19] tomorrow and and tell her what the

[11:20] situation is and tell her that the

[11:23] letter's coming and what the chain of

[11:26] command or

[11:28] >> the procedure is to allow the library to

[11:32] go to the transfer transfer station

[11:34] because we're a municipal library. We're

[11:38] the town

[11:40] >> and that might take care of it. I don't

[11:41] know. I I walk a tight

[11:45] line,

[11:45] >> right?

[11:46] >> You know,

[11:47] >> sure. You work enough toes

[11:50] >> in my day job.

[11:51] >> Yeah.

[11:53] >> Okay. So,

[11:54] >> well, Danny, thank you very much to our

[11:57] attention.

[11:59] >> Um,

[12:00] >> so who wants to make a motion?

[12:02] >> Oh, do we need one?

[12:04] >> Um,

[12:04] >> I'm just putting Sil will write a

[12:06] letter.

[12:07] >> Okay,

[12:08] >> I can make a motion. I'll second it.

[12:11] Write it out the way you have or however

[12:14] you want to [snorts] write it.

[12:14] >> I'll send it out to everybody. Okay.

[12:16] >> Before I mail it to the Terry and Bill.

[12:21] >> So, the motion is to have secretary

[12:25] >> write a letter to their board of

[12:27] selectmen

[12:29] requesting the ability to take

[12:33] our municipal libraries trash

[12:37] to the transfer station

[12:38] >> free of charge.

[12:42] as we have for over 10 years. I don't

[12:44] know why without a sticker always

[12:45] forever. Did you

[12:47] >> just give us a sticker without a

[12:49] sticker?

[12:49] >> Give us a sticker.

[12:50] >> Just give us a sticker.

[12:51] >> Yeah. Asking for a sticker

[12:58] » and and no punch card needed.

[13:12] Thank you.

[13:13] >> Thank you. Thank you, Danny.

[13:16] >> For all favors.

[13:18] >> Thank you for all the favors. You

[13:19] >> That's right. Do Did we have a Did that

[13:22] pass the motion to have seal?

[13:25] >> Cuz I All

[13:26] >> in favor?

[13:27] >> I

[13:28] >> All those opposed.

[13:29] >> The eyes have it

[13:35] there. It's official.

[13:36] >> Yeah. I I mean it's I I think it's just

[13:41] um I know that the transfer station is

[13:43] losing money and that was the issue.

[13:46] >> It wouldn't be an issue, but I just

[13:49] don't want it to be

[13:51] >> No, that's all right. That we're we're

[13:53] willing to do that. I mean, that is our

[13:55] responsibility.

[13:58] >> Thank you, Danny.

[14:01] >> Put the trash away.

[14:06] Thank you very much, guys.

[14:08] >> Sure. Anytime.

[14:10] >> Okay. Librarians report

[14:18] August.

[14:20] Uh we open 22 days. Uh circulation was

[14:23] 846 items.

[14:26] Um,

[14:31] I took in 71 new books and I did some

[14:36] weeding of the fiction section

[14:38] mostly.

[14:41] Um,

[14:42] we had six new library cards.

[14:46] One was paid with a check. So, when we

[14:49] get down here to petty cash, that's the

[14:52] um discrepancy [music] down there.

[14:58] I don't like the way we record Wi-Fi,

[15:00] but that's what I

[15:02] saw. Um, and then the signatures for the

[15:05] computer.

[15:07] Um, volunteer hours are 11675.

[15:13] And then the pettic

[15:15] you can see down there.

[15:21] Sorry, it's copied funky. So when you

[15:23] flip it over, it's upside down. Um,

[15:25] genealogology club met um second time

[15:29] via Zoom. We had two people in

[15:31] attendance with Zoom for total. Um, book

[15:34] club discussed braiding sweetg grass. We

[15:36] had a

[15:38] lot of discussion. Not a lot of people

[15:40] finish the book, but a lot of

[15:41] discussion. Um, next we're reading The

[15:43] Vatican Conspiracy by Peter Hopen Camp

[15:46] and I'm working with him to come talk at

[15:49] the library in October sometime

[15:52] hopefully.

[15:54] Um,

[15:56] [snorts]

[15:56] August take and make was a pipe cleaner

[15:59] rainbow and everyone was taken. And then

[16:01] we have this cute little welcome fall

[16:03] sticker hanger. It's a simple task.

[16:07] um small hands can do it really easily

[16:10] or difficult fingers. Uh story time had

[16:13] two sessions in August the last two

[16:16] sessions. Miss Nadler and Miss Mingo um

[16:19] read

[16:21] and uh 25 kids total. Nope. 25. Yep. 25

[16:26] kids total and 20 adults. Um very

[16:29] thankful for all these grave and grade

[16:31] school

[16:33] people for coming and giving their time.

[16:36] Uh, Captain,

[16:37] >> we're really getting a good turnout.

[16:38] >> Yeah. And the um the

[16:41] teachers coming were very I'm very

[16:43] thankful for them. Um, Captain Aquatics

[16:47] came on August 3rd with all of his

[16:49] creatures and it was super duper fun.

[16:52] Um, Lego Robotics had three sessions in

[16:55] August and the girls did a great job.

[16:59] They built all these different creations

[17:01] and used um gears and computer programs

[17:05] and they put on a little presentation

[17:07] with the adults on the last half hour of

[17:09] their time. They did a really good job.

[17:12] Had a little uh amusement park carnival

[17:16] thing they created.

[17:18] >> Was Was that only for girls?

[17:20] >> She only offered it to girls. I think

[17:23] she she kind of transitioned through her

[17:25] brainstorming of how she was going to do

[17:26] the program, but she ultimately decided

[17:27] that it was just girls. Um she was

[17:30] noticing that as they get older, it's

[17:33] mostly boys in the programming. And so I

[17:35] think she was very excited that there

[17:36] were girl interest in it, but so that's

[17:39] why she kept it only to girls.

[17:45] Um, she did say that uh she'd like to

[17:48] come back next year, but she'd like to

[17:50] only offer it to new people. So, not to

[17:53] have the same girls come through to give

[17:55] everybody a taste of it if she does

[17:56] bring it back next year.

[18:00] Um, end of summer reading um was Friday,

[18:04] August 14th.

[18:06] I really wasn't sure what was going to

[18:08] happen with that event, but we had six

[18:11] um students and six adults come and we

[18:13] pulled the raffle um prizes

[18:17] and we did a little story time and some

[18:19] coloring and got a goodie bag to end the reading season. Um and then about a

[18:28] third of all of the challenges that were

[18:30] taken out came back um in almost every

[18:34] level. little less for the mid grade

[18:37] there.

[18:39] Um and then the day ended with the

[18:41] Vermont History Museum and I was a

[18:42] little disappointed cuz not we only had

[18:44] one adult one student come to that one.

[18:46] It was a really amazing um presentation

[18:49] that she gave about the Wheeler family.

[18:53] Lots of fun facts, lots of really cool

[18:56] pictures.

[18:56] >> What town were were they from?

[18:58] >> I cannot pronounce it properly. C A L A

[19:01] I S. Yep. um as where the Wheeler family

[19:05] was from. And so it was it was really

[19:07] interesting. She gave the library free

[19:09] passes for families to go to the Vermont

[19:12] History Museum um for the year. And she

[19:16] also has a few other programs. They have

[19:18] a um

[19:21] trivia party that they can do, which

[19:23] could be a really cool thing to do with

[19:26] um

[19:28] Carnegie

[19:29] >> Mhm.

[19:30] >> stuff if that's something. And it's a

[19:32] free program. and they do charge travel.

[19:34] Um that's the only thing they charge

[19:36] for.

[19:36] >> And I think it'd be great to to do it in

[19:38] collaboration with the Fair Haven

[19:40] Historical Society.

[19:42] >> So that um she said to just communicate

[19:44] with them if that was something that we

[19:45] did want to schedule with that, but the

[19:47] trivia's adult people uh and kids and I

[19:51] think that it could be a really fun

[19:53] thing to do.

[19:56] Um

[20:01] storywalk. I just put storywalk up this

[20:03] past weekend. [laughter]

[20:06] Took four and a half hours. It was it was a lot, but it was really

[20:11] interesting. Um I wanted to do it all

[20:16] throughout the summer. I just couldn't

[20:17] find the time to get out there and do

[20:18] it. Um, but I came I got the signs um

[20:23] from the Sheldon's and I had them at my

[20:25] house and I went through and looked at

[20:26] all the books from previous years and

[20:29] almost all of them are all there. We're

[20:31] missing one from um the Champ book.

[20:36] >> One page

[20:37] >> Chris Van Dusen one page from the Champ

[20:40] book.

[20:41] >> Um so that's the only one that doesn't

[20:43] have all of its bits and pieces

[20:44] together. You ought to just reach out to

[20:46] Judy and Nate to make sure that it isn't

[20:48] stuck somewhere.

[20:49] >> Or maybe it's back here.

[20:50] >> I looked in here and I found totes in

[20:53] here and I like had the totes from your

[20:55] family and um Charlotte and I went

[20:57] through all the pages and she got a

[20:59] stack together and then I double checked

[21:00] them and there's that is the only one

[21:01] that one page is missing. Um so it might

[21:05] be somewhere it might have been taken by

[21:07] somebody too. I mean who

[21:08] >> I guess that's pretty good. I think so.

[21:11] Yeah, there's what four books

[21:13] >> uh in total. There's like there's a lot

[21:15] of there's like 12 maybe there's more

[21:17] than that. I mean there's a lot of books

[21:18] up there because

[21:19] >> we did it for several years and every

[21:21] month was a different book.

[21:22] >> I think it was every week. You had every

[21:24] week for a while in there that it was a

[21:26] different book from that's what some of

[21:28] the

[21:30] uh intro letters say.

[21:31] >> Right. Okay.

[21:32] >> Um

[21:35] so anyways,

[21:36] >> I think I think that might have been

[21:38] early when we didn't think it was going

[21:39] to be as much work.

[21:41] >> Right. Right. because we I mean the

[21:44] friends of the library came down and we

[21:46] >> decorated the pages and things and then

[21:49] the school laminated them for us.

[21:51] >> So, it's it's really nice that it's

[21:53] being used again because

[21:56] >> well, it was really cute because

[21:57] Charlotte and I were putting them in and

[22:00] um I had to go home cuz my car wasn't

[22:02] big enough to put all the things in and

[22:04] so I had to go home and I had to come

[22:05] back and when we came back there was

[22:06] people already reading the story. I was

[22:08] like, "It's [laughter] not done."

[22:10] And there was one guy who was like, "Oh,

[22:11] this beautiful artwork in the park." And

[22:13] I'm like, "No, it's a story." So,

[22:15] anyways, people were already looking at

[22:16] it the day we were putting it out. It

[22:17] was a beautiful day.

[22:18] >> No, they they really do enjoy going

[22:21] reading the story walk.

[22:22] >> So, I'm I don't 100% know how to record

[22:26] statistics for it. Um I guess in the

[22:28] past, what my understanding is, you just

[22:30] kind of took 10 people a day and that

[22:32] was who saw it. So, I'm not really sure.

[22:35] Um, part of what I'd still like to do is

[22:38] be I'm going ahead of myself, but I'm

[22:40] gonna that anyways. I'm not doing story

[22:43] time in September because it I have a

[22:45] class um cataloging class that's exact

[22:48] time of story time and so I'm not doing

[22:50] it also because it's the beginning of

[22:52] the school year and I just think it's

[22:53] too much in general. So, I was hoping

[22:56] that I could make a sign that says,

[22:58] "Come to the library for a little

[23:00] take-home craft for your story time that

[23:02] is simple that you could do at home.

[23:05] it would be like this is the story time

[23:07] in the park as well. Um, so I haven't

[23:12] completed that part of it yet. I still

[23:15] have to work on that part. And I also

[23:17] haven't put a a sign up really

[23:20] indicating exactly what it is. There's

[23:21] the map and then there's a start of the

[23:23] book, but there's no like sign created

[23:26] yet um to tell people what it is and

[23:29] what's going on cuz the ones that were

[23:32] created are dated and so I couldn't

[23:35] reuse those completely,

[23:37] >> right? Cuz they were usually dedicated

[23:39] in memory or in honor of someone.

[23:41] >> And I also along the way posts have been

[23:46] are I don't have all the posts that came

[23:48] with it too. So, I had to adapt some of

[23:50] them and I believe that Nate might have

[23:52] used some of them for other purposes and

[23:55] they've

[23:56] >> that's what they are. Or maybe

[23:58] >> I know several got run over.

[24:00] >> Somebody ran over. Okay. [laughter]

[24:02] Okay. So, there's a few that are not

[24:04] there. So, I had to adapt some of them

[24:06] to make it all all work, but it is out

[24:08] there. And I'm hoping that I can change

[24:11] the story weekly and have a craft of

[24:13] some sort that people can come in and

[24:15] get the craft and that can be a way that

[24:17] I count

[24:19] who's using it. Right.

[24:21] >> That's that was what

[24:22] >> we did that before. We we did that

[24:24] before that there was something that

[24:26] they could pick up, some prize that they

[24:28] could pick up at the library after they

[24:30] went

[24:30] >> sort of like a scavenger hunt kind of

[24:32] thing or some little questionnaire that

[24:35] they had to fill out and then they

[24:36] brought it back and that's how we

[24:38] >> well they got something and

[24:40] >> and I'm sure there's people that went to

[24:42] the story walk that didn't come to the

[24:43] library. just part of it being in the

[24:46] park and being

[24:47] >> and now that school's in session, I

[24:48] don't know if they have to

[24:51] >> if it has to be a field trip to go to

[24:53] the park. Probably does.

[24:54] >> Yeah.

[24:54] >> But [clears throat] but even in the

[24:56] past, you know,

[24:58] >> who who I I'm not like

[24:59] >> it'd be nice to, you know, to take the

[25:01] kids out to to read the story.

[25:04] So anyways, it's there and I'm hoping to

[25:06] keep it up through the first week in

[25:08] October because that is what my class is

[25:11] and so I'll take it down then and I'll

[25:13] put it away. Um I'm think I'm going to

[25:15] try to use the little space under the

[25:18] stairs to put the posts in

[25:23] um to store them cuz I don't have a

[25:26] spare piece at my house to put them.

[25:29] >> Yeah. And Judy didn't want them back.

[25:31] >> No, she doesn't want them back. So we'll

[25:32] put them in that area. So that's kind

[25:34] >> we have a little bit of space under

[25:35] there, I think. Y

[25:36] >> there might be a space in the other far

[25:38] corner over here, but I feel like under

[25:39] the stairs is out of

[25:41] >> I think it's safer. That's too close to

[25:43] the you know.

[25:44] >> Okay,

[25:46] so that's kind of my thought with that.

[25:47] So that is um Oh, that was my upcoming

[25:51] programs. So that's my big thing for

[25:52] September. I don't have a lot of other

[25:54] things planned in September right now.

[25:56] Um the friends of the library do have

[25:57] their book sale on the 19th from 10:00

[25:59] to 12:00. It's the same day as the Apple

[26:01] Fest. Um, so hopefully it'll get people

[26:04] in here um to play around.

[26:08] Um, the meeting space was used as a

[26:10] workspace and then for the one party.

[26:13] Um, and then the friends of the library

[26:15] have met three times. I think I put down

[26:17] in here August 12th for their creating

[26:21] the angel design. Um, 18th to do the

[26:24] book sort and the 26th to create

[26:27] creation of the Christmas angels. Um,

[26:31] I actually I do you want to share what

[26:34] the design is?

[26:37] >> Oh. Um yeah, we

[26:38] >> Well, it's time secret.

[26:40] >> Well, I don't know. I mean, [laughter]

[26:43] maybe it is. The reveal has to wait till

[26:47] >> the friends do sort of keep that design

[26:50] secret until until they come to

[26:53] undecorate the undecorate the tree. Yes.

[26:56] >> Okay. So, the angels are created or

[26:58] being decided and they're being created.

[27:00] They're in the process of creation.

[27:02] They're meeting again on next Wednesday

[27:04] to do some more creation. So, um that is

[27:09] that.

[27:10] Okay. The telephone company, we didn't

[27:12] have telephone for like 2 weeks. Um and

[27:16] they finally came and fixed the line.

[27:19] And within that same time, I finally got

[27:21] a quote and I signed the quote for the

[27:25] telephone company. Um, and I spoke to

[27:28] this other gentleman about starting it

[27:30] up and he was going to contact me for a

[27:33] date to transition

[27:37] and I haven't heard back from him for a

[27:38] date to transition yet. So, we are in

[27:41] that limbo.

[27:44] Signed quotes for the transition time

[27:46] frame.

[27:49] Um, Green Mountain Sprinklers were

[27:50] supposed to come on August 14th. I have

[27:53] no idea what happened. Um, I do admit

[27:55] that I noticed he didn't come. I called

[27:58] on the 14th and then I forgot about it

[28:01] for a little bit and I went away and I

[28:03] came back and I was like, "Oh yeah, the

[28:04] sprinkler guy never came." And so I've

[28:05] been call I've been calling him about

[28:07] every other day since it came back. um

[28:10] he's not gotten to call the

[28:14] >> So I did reach out to and I don't

[28:17] remember the other group's name right

[28:19] now but I did reach out to another group

[28:22] that we had contacted in in the past um

[28:26] who had sent a contract to be signed but

[28:28] then Green Mountain came to do the work

[28:31] and we didn't continue with that group.

[28:33] this group needs some more um

[28:37] information from us before they can come

[28:39] do an inspection. So I can reach out to

[28:42] them if um like me to.

[28:46] >> Well, we

[28:48] >> the motion from last time was for Green

[28:51] Mountain Sprinkler, but if they don't

[28:52] come, we we got to get those. It's not optional.

[28:55] >> Got to be done before the end of the

[28:57] year.

[28:58] >> So I can It's not an option that we

[29:00] >> So I can reach out to other company.

[29:03] >> They sent me an email with some

[29:07] information to fill out.

[29:08] >> Okay. um when I which I didn't complete

[29:11] because we were going I had the

[29:13] appointment with Green Mountain and to

[29:14] continue with them so I can find that

[29:16] email and

[29:19] complete that part if you guys would

[29:21] like me to to try to get the spranglers

[29:23] inspected and I can still try to go with

[29:25] Green Mountain. I'm kind of worried

[29:26] about the guy like I don't know why he

[29:27] didn't show up and doesn't want to call

[29:29] me back. So

[29:31] >> yeah. Um,

[29:33] >> do you want Jenny to do it or do you

[29:34] want to

[29:35] >> No, you go ahead. Finish filling out

[29:37] whatever you can with that paperwork and

[29:38] if you have any questions, give me a

[29:40] call.

[29:40] >> Okay.

[29:41] >> When are you leaving?

[29:42] >> The 11th

[29:43] >> of September.

[29:44] >> Yes.

[29:44] >> Okay.

[29:46] I'm going to write that down.

[29:49] >> Just so that we get that

[29:52] taken care of.

[29:55] The royal group came and the fire alarm

[29:57] inspection happened and everything was

[29:58] okay. The bill came. I passed it in to

[30:01] Amy. This was not a missed inspection.

[30:03] The fire and sprinklers was a missed

[30:05] inspection.

[30:07] Um, Royal Group wasn't. They came, did

[30:11] their bit.

[30:14] I don't know why I have StoryWalk there

[30:16] twice. Oh, because I wanted to talk

[30:17] about it twice. I think I told you

[30:19] everything about Storywalk.

[30:21] We're closed on Monday for Labor Day.

[30:23] >> Yep.

[30:24] >> And then the next meeting is October

[30:26] 7th.

[30:30] And I think that that is it.

[30:34] >> Thank you.

[30:40] My cast class is on cataloging.

[30:42] >> Oh,

[30:48] but not not like Dewey decimal or is it

[30:51] Dewey decimal?

[30:52] >> It's entirely all what's in there.

[30:54] >> It's a different teacher. So, I'm not

[30:56] sure. Um

[30:59] I have just on cataloging and I'm sure

[31:02] that all types of cataloging will be in

[31:04] there. Oh, good.

[31:08] So I will just uh did uh Judy Sheldon

[31:14] come in to you and ask about the art

[31:16] club using the

[31:18] >> She did not.

[31:19] >> Okay. So, um I guess I'll bring it to

[31:22] the board then because the art club for

[31:24] the past since co has been using the

[31:28] library um to meet the first Mondays of

[31:33] the month of I believe it's just no

[31:37] January, February, and March.

[31:40] Um

[31:42] >> on Mondays

[31:44] >> at 1:00.

[31:45] >> Well, I usually show up at 12:30. I have

[31:47] a key. So, I I let folks in and then

[31:50] we're always out before Kathy or

[31:52] whoever's working that day um comes in.

[31:58] So, we've been doing it well since co

[32:01] but

[32:04] we get that permission from you.

[32:07] Room use is your

[32:12] Yeah, [laughter]

[32:15] you've got the power. [laughter]

[32:21] Is the board okay with her continuing to

[32:23] use it on Mondays when the library is

[32:25] not?

[32:26] >> I will recuse myself from that one since

[32:27] I'm on the art club. But yeah. Is it is

[32:30] it every Monday or is it just

[32:31] >> No, just the first Monday of the month

[32:33] for those three months because we don't

[32:35] and the reason we do that is because

[32:39] we don't like to use other people's cuz

[32:42] the art club meets in people's homes or

[32:45] has for about 125 years and um but

[32:52] during COVID and some other times we

[32:54] just wanted a place that was spaced out

[32:56] and was handicap accessibility and

[33:00] didn't require people to drive.

[33:04] >> Plus, people that are in the club are

[33:06] aging in terms of it used to be a big

[33:09] event to have it in your house, right?

[33:11] >> And now these people aren't really

[33:13] prepared to do that,

[33:14] >> right?

[33:17] Some of them are 90s in their 90s. Yep.

[33:24] But I just would bring that up

[33:27] to the board. It's fine with me.

[33:32] >> Yeah.

[33:34] >> As long as it's okay with Jenna.

[33:36] >> That's right. That's That's right. It's

[33:37] my decision [laughter]

[33:38] according to our policy. It's your

[33:40] decision.

[33:43] >> Okay.

[33:46] Any other old business? Uh yeah, I

[33:48] finally got in touch with the

[33:52] um

[33:54] door guy.

[33:57] Um and I also got in touch with Rob. Rob

[34:00] has I gave Rob Walker some photographs

[34:05] and some measurements and he hasn't put

[34:08] anything together for me just yet.

[34:12] And I had talked with Steve

[34:18] I'm going to bastardize his name, so I'm

[34:19] not going to say it. I will let you know

[34:21] what that spelling is. He gave me a

[34:24] price of 29.40.

[34:28] 2,940 for the door

[34:32] and for a contractor to install it would

[34:35] be $1,500,

[34:37] which seems a little expensive to me,

[34:39] but

[34:41] I said I would bring it back to the

[34:43] board and I'm hoping that I get

[34:46] something from Rob so we have something

[34:48] to go with. Um, I did contact him again

[34:51] today and asked him if he had a chance

[34:54] cuz it was uh the 24th was when he text

[34:58] me last and I said

[35:01] um I asked him if he could build it and

[35:05] give us you know give us an estimate to

[35:07] build it and install and I haven't heard

[35:10] anything back from it.

[35:11] >> That's Rob your Walker Walker

[35:14] >> and the other guy was Steve somebody

[35:17] >> Steve

[35:19] L U G

[35:21] >> Y

[35:21] >> O N Y

[35:23] >> B U H.

[35:25] >> Oh, I can see. [laughter]

[35:28] >> Oh, Lugen.

[35:30] >> Lugenba.

[35:33] >> I have no idea.

[35:34] >> Like I said, I don't I didn't really

[35:36] want to mess it up. So,

[35:38] >> okay. So, what would be nice is if we

[35:40] got a quote from Rob Walker and then we

[35:42] could say we had two quotes and we could

[35:46] decide on

[35:48] >> our best one. [snorts] My first

[35:49] >> Well, they're both less than the ones we

[35:52] got from

[35:53] >> Yeah,

[35:53] >> cuz um

[35:57] I'm

[35:59] Yeah. Um Richard said that it would be

[36:02] about five grand.

[36:03] >> Kum. Okay. So, this is this is close to

[36:05] five grand,

[36:06] >> right?

[36:07] >> 4500. 4,500. My first reaction is, "Oh,

[36:10] you've you've got a quote. We go with

[36:12] it." [laughter]

[36:14] >> Well, someone back

[36:16] >> and it's less than $10,000,

[36:18] >> right?

[36:19] >> Yeah.

[36:20] >> Which is

[36:20] >> Well, actually, we've had we've had

[36:22] [clears throat] basically now four,

[36:24] >> right?

[36:25] >> One was from the um Royal Glass and then

[36:29] from

[36:31] >> I can never remember their names over

[36:33] there by Hannerford. Um they were 15,000

[36:37] and Portland. That's right.

[36:39] >> And Royal was uh 10 grand. But

[36:44] >> both of them were wanting to place

[36:47] everything to begin with, but I talked

[36:49] Royal into just doing the lower half and

[36:53] that was 10 grand. So,

[36:56] and we just want the door replaced.

[37:00] So,

[37:02] >> so do we want to do you want us to wait

[37:04] until we hear from Rob or do we want to

[37:06] go with

[37:08] >> um if if I can get an something from

[37:11] him, I will forward that to everybody on

[37:13] the board and we can work it that way.

[37:15] We'll do it through emails and work it

[37:18] that way.

[37:19] >> Okay.

[37:19] >> One way or the other. and and my

[37:22] reaction is if we don't hear from Rob or

[37:25] he doesn't get back to you in a timely

[37:27] fashion, we go with the other guy.

[37:30] >> And he said he wouldn't be able to do it

[37:31] until next year.

[37:32] >> Okay.

[37:33] >> Well, I don't think anybody's going to

[37:35] be able to do it until next year. It

[37:36] depends on, you know,

[37:38] >> weather,

[37:41] » right?

[37:42] >> But still, we get it in the

[37:44] >> we get on his list.

[37:46] >> Right.

[37:48] >> Okay.

[37:49] I did call

[37:53] John Trac I It might be Joseph Tracy or

[37:57] it's anyways Mr. Tracy at the glass.

[38:00] >> Yep.

[38:01] >> And he's got the picture. He says it's

[38:03] something he thinks he could easily do.

[38:06] Um he said the window would need to be

[38:09] releted. Um

[38:12] uh but he is a master craftsman at this

[38:15] part for those kinds of things. So, he's

[38:19] going to call me back with a time or

[38:21] place. I'm not sure he cuz sometimes he

[38:24] calls the library. So, if you hear

[38:26] anything from a Mr. Tracy about the fan,

[38:31] that's what it is. Okay.

[38:35] Uh he lives about an hour and a half,

[38:37] two hours south. Um but he

[38:42] I he he got back to me. It was a

[38:45] >> Yeah.

[38:46] So, um, I did look I did look up

[38:49] his work and

[38:51] >> it's pretty pretty spectacular. I I I

[38:55] would assume

[38:57] >> that we want it to look the same. We

[38:59] don't need any colored glass or stained

[39:01] glass or anything, just the fan window

[39:03] as was in the original

[39:06] >> building. So, that's what I told him,

[39:09] but he said because it's that old and it

[39:11] would have to be [clears throat]

[39:13] releted.

[39:15] But he said there's only a couple broken

[39:17] pieces and they would be easy to

[39:19] replace. But

[39:21] yeah,

[39:22] >> question

[39:29] because that is something requested on

[39:30] the HUD grant. Do we have to No, don't

[39:34] have to.

[39:34] >> That was not

[39:36] >> not requested.

[39:38] >> That that work was not considered in the

[39:42] application for the HUD grant. Okay.

[39:48] » The HUD grant was to um do the brick

[39:52] work

[39:53] >> and

[39:54] >> some broken windows but not

[39:56] >> ceiling of

[39:58] >> all the windows and doors to the brick.

[40:02] >> I was under the impression that that was

[40:04] the stained glass window that was in

[40:08] >> That's the fan window.

[40:09] >> Okay. And that has nothing to do with

[40:12] the other windows. water damage or

[40:15] anything like that.

[40:20] » So, yeah, that's a totally separate

[40:25] something the friends have tried to get

[40:28] fixed for a very long time and it was

[40:31] just Judy found somebody.

[40:35] >> Thank you.

[40:36] >> You're welcome. [laughter]

[40:37] >> Yes.

[40:39] >> I will send you all of Mr. Tracy's,

[40:43] >> you sent something out.

[40:45] >> Yeah, I sent it. Did everybody got it

[40:47] right with the pictures and everything?

[40:49] >> Yeah.

[40:51] >> So, I think um I think it's back in his

[40:56] ballpark,

[40:57] >> but um I will give him a call.

[41:02] That'd be nice to have.

[41:03] >> Yeah,

[41:06] >> pretty soon.

[41:08] >> Okay.

[41:10] Any other new or old business?

[41:14] >> Well, yes, we're going to do the budget.

[41:17] [laughter]

[41:19] >> Well, that's what the main meeting is

[41:21] supposed that's what our meeting really

[41:22] is about today is our budget.

[41:25] >> If

[41:26] >> not really old, not really new. So,

[41:30] >> the budget,

[41:30] >> if you look at June's

[41:33] statement,

[41:34] >> right, you'll see

[41:37] that

[41:38] >> where we ended up. Well, first of all,

[41:40] under salaries, we had $5,000 left over,

[41:46] which

[41:48] almost feels like, you know, some of

[41:50] that some of that is that double month

[41:53] that we had. So, I don't know. Anyway,

[41:56] that's interesting. [snorts]

[41:57] Um,

[42:02] and everybody got their pay increases

[42:04] last year.

[42:06] >> I I hope so. Yes. as far as I know.

[42:10] Right, Jenna? You got your raising

[42:13] everyone.

[42:13] >> Yeah, Amy's pretty good on that.

[42:15] >> And see the books. We didn't order as

[42:19] many books. That's another place. And I would assume that don't don't you

[42:26] think that's partly Jenny you getting

[42:29] >> I think it's the Baker and Taylor

[42:31] closing and not knowing where to buy

[42:33] books from and me learning what to buy

[42:37] and how to buy. Um so I also there's

[42:43] been a lot of talk amongst the

[42:45] librarians about um the co average cost

[42:47] per book is going up as well. Um, so,

[42:51] >> so that'll take care of that,

[42:52] >> I think. So,

[42:55] >> um, the digital overdrive last year we

[42:59] increased it to 5,500

[43:01] and that's about what we spent.

[43:05] The media is way down. Um, we've got

[43:09] $1,000 there, but we only spent $55.

[43:13] >> We don't Nobody's taking out the DVDs

[43:16] anymore.

[43:17] >> Sorry, I didn't take that statistic. um

[43:19] with me

[43:20] >> so we could find some money there. Um

[43:26] the

[43:28] let me see

[43:31] there was one other one automation

[43:36] under automation.

[43:38] Um well no that it's still it's still in

[43:43] there what I noticed in July that the

[43:45] automation was already pretty high. you

[43:48] >> $800.

[43:49] >> Is that because we have to pay twice a

[43:52] year six months around about $800?

[43:55] >> That's going to be all right. Okay. And

[43:57] the other one is the inter library loan.

[43:59] We spent $1,200 and only had 600 in the

[44:02] budget and we only had 600 last year.

[44:05] So, we [snorts] could take that money

[44:07] from

[44:08] the grant. The grant covers the grant

[44:11] pays the other 600. Oh, yeah. I knew

[44:14] that.

[44:15] >> Okay. Okay. So,

[44:18] >> but so that shouldn't show a $600

[44:21] negative.

[44:22] >> No, it shouldn't. It It shouldn't. But

[44:25] it's very difficult for me to figure out

[44:28] how Amy works the grants cuz it doesn't

[44:31] seem to show up in her bookkeeping.

[44:36] >> Okay.

[44:37] >> So, that's that's why I I do that.

[44:42] All right.

[44:44] So, the media, DVD, audio, we're just

[44:48] not going to be spending that much on

[44:50] that anymore.

[44:50] >> I I was hoping that that is I I advocate

[44:54] for not keep putting that much in the

[44:56] budget because there's I've have not

[45:00] purchased obviously that many DVDs. I've

[45:02] gotten some um given by donation. I I've

[45:06] only been purchasing DVDs if people

[45:08] specifically request them because they

[45:10] go out so rarely. What I was hoping and

[45:13] what I would like to do is try to put

[45:15] some more money into programs

[45:18] um somewhere so that I could try to have

[45:23] um more programs at the library. In

[45:26] general, the speakers and program money,

[45:29] um, to my understanding, this budget

[45:31] line goes mainly to the summer passes

[45:35] that people take and use a lot of and

[45:39] that are

[45:42] $7,500

[45:44] per pass per year.

[45:47] So, do we want to take like maybe Oh,

[45:50] you mean 500 out of the media and put it

[45:52] to the speakers and programs?

[45:55] >> I would I would like more flexibility

[45:57] with programming and the ability to get

[46:01] programs in here. So, that would I mean,

[46:03] if that is something that we could do, I

[46:05] would I think we can reduce the DVD

[46:08] audio money because I think $1,000 is

[46:11] way too much. Um but if we wanted to and

[46:14] that was my thought to take some of that

[46:16] from there and to keep it into the

[46:18] programs.

[46:19] >> So

[46:21] we've been I mean some of the um

[46:26] data that we've asked you to collect in

[46:28] the past

[46:30] several months um was mainly for this

[46:33] reason. Where are we where are the most

[46:37] of our patrons really looking for items?

[46:42] Are they looking for what kind of books

[46:44] are they using? Overdrive or, you know,

[46:46] Hoopla, Overdrive, those kinds of

[46:48] things. And, you know, put our money

[46:52] where they want it

[46:53] >> where where, you know, where people are

[46:54] really actually, you know, using using

[46:57] it. And like you said, um, you know,

[47:00] DVDs for a while there. I mean,

[47:03] everybody was using them all the time

[47:04] because that was now people

[47:07] now. They can watch it on Hooplift. They

[47:09] want to stream it. Um,

[47:11] >> excuse me.

[47:12] or something like that. So, yeah. And um

[47:16] and seriously, the $500 for speakers and

[47:20] programs,

[47:23] was that for summer?

[47:25] the summer grant is is

[47:27] >> I mean because because the friends at

[47:29] the library

[47:30] >> do programming

[47:31] >> programs

[47:32] >> um but

[47:35] we don't like we don't do any in the

[47:38] summer and Jenny might want to run some

[47:40] in the summer and the reasons the

[47:42] friends didn't do it in the summer is

[47:43] because people go to the concerts on

[47:45] Tuesdays and Thursday nights. Um, so you

[47:49] know what it I don't have any problems

[47:52] with us bringing more programming. Um,

[47:58] so yeah. Right.

[47:59] >> Especially if we've got this digital

[48:01] money that I mean uh media money that

[48:04] we're not using.

[48:05] >> Right.

[48:08] So we lessen the DVD audio

[48:13] down 500 down to 200.

[48:15] >> Yeah.

[48:16] and then take that money and put it

[48:18] towards speakers and programs

[48:22] >> digital overdrive. But I don't think you

[48:24] should zero it

[48:26] >> that's that's why I said bring it down

[48:27] to like $200

[48:30] >> from a you're talking

[48:32] >> last year $55

[48:35] >> $55 and I think I bought I did buy Toy

[48:39] Story 4 cuz a patron requested it and

[48:41] that was brand new and it came with all

[48:43] Toy Story

[48:45] >> DVDs recently and I bought the Penguin

[48:48] um lessons and I bought have not bought

[48:51] that many DVDs in general. this year.

[48:54] I'm trying to think of since the change

[48:57] of budget. Um

[49:00] cuz it looks like people are using

[49:02] digital overdrive.

[49:04] >> Um I know they're using Hoopla.

[49:06] >> Mhm.

[49:07] um [snorts] I think the biggest hit that

[49:11] the library is going to take in terms of

[49:14] um

[49:16] is the fuel

[49:18] >> is going to be our fuel and utilities

[49:20] because

[49:22] we could see an increase in electricity

[49:24] as well as fuel oil

[49:26] >> and see we we were over budget under

[49:28] utilities. We were under for fuel. Yeah.

[49:32] >> Yeah.

[49:33] >> But that's just the luck of the draw.

[49:37] Do we know how many gallons we use per

[49:39] season? Cuz that's

[49:41] >> I don't should be able to figure it out,

[49:43] Bob.

[49:44] >> Yeah, I think I don't.

[49:47] >> We got it for like three

[49:49] >> 360.

[49:50] >> I think that's what we

[49:51] >> I think it was 360 last year.

[49:55] This is a new notebook. So,

[49:58] >> I think you're right. I think it was cuz

[50:00] that's what I got my fuel for about the

[50:03] same time that we

[50:04] >> Right.

[50:05] Yeah, because they were actually, you

[50:07] know,

[50:10] >> I know that the off-road diesel went up

[50:13] like 40 cents between this last time and

[50:17] the time before

[50:19] and and and all summer long it's been

[50:22] fluctuating up and down, up and down,

[50:23] and and in July the woman told me,

[50:27] "Well, the letter's going to go out and

[50:29] you're going to get this rate." It was

[50:31] like it it was wasn't a bad rate. I

[50:34] mean, it wasn't great, but it was better

[50:36] than no rate at all.

[50:40] And then last but then on Monday, I

[50:42] called and um and I just asked her and

[50:46] she said, "Oh, I don't think there's

[50:47] going to be one."

[50:48] >> That That's surprising that

[50:52] we only spent that much on fuel last

[50:54] year.

[50:55] >> I know. It was It was And

[50:58] >> it was a cold year.

[50:59] >> It was, but we used less. Well, maybe

[51:02] not. is less.

[51:03] >> I didn't use less. But But see, there's

[51:07] another that 14,000

[51:11] » that got left. There's another place

[51:14] because there's 2,000 right there.

[51:18] >> I I would lower that from 7,000 though.

[51:21] >> I I think I would not touch it.

[51:23] >> Fuel we leave right where it's at.

[51:25] >> Y

[51:26] >> um

[51:27] >> Well, we've got to decide what to do

[51:28] with salaries.

[51:30] Well, we did

[51:34] ask for one, two, and 3%. We looked up

[51:37] the cost of living and it's 3

[51:41] 2 to 3.6%.

[51:45] » I know that in past years we've kind of

[51:48] gone back and forth.

[51:50] Sometimes it's three, sometimes it's

[51:52] two, sometimes we want to save,

[51:54] >> but we always find out what the cost of

[51:55] living is.

[51:58] But but the thing is that it's almost seeming like if we take this

[52:05] digit if we take the media and move it

[52:08] down to speakers almost [snorts]

[52:11] everything else is where it ought to be

[52:16] except for the fuel.

[52:18] >> Yeah.

[52:21] » Did we go over in utilities?

[52:23] >> I think we did.

[52:24] >> Yes, we did go over in utilities. I

[52:26] know5 almost $500

[52:29] thermostat just the same. It doesn't go

[52:32] up and down like when you close the

[52:34] library. Do you turn it down or it not a

[52:37] standard procedure to turn it down on

[52:39] over the weekend or not? Um

[52:42] >> I think I'll just I think that's been an

[52:44] issue in the past where it's been

[52:46] recommended by I think mccclurers to

[52:48] leave it at a

[52:50] >> at warm temperature.

[52:51] >> Yeah. Cuz the building's too big to

[52:54] >> to go up and down. Yeah,

[52:55] >> it takes it too long to recuperate.

[52:58] >> Just keep it at one temperature.

[52:59] >> Yeah.

[53:02] >> But it could be the prices too cuz the

[53:04] prices have gone up.

[53:05] >> Mhm.

[53:07] >> The usage of electricity is about the

[53:11] same as last year. When you look at the

[53:14] Green Mountain Power report, it's gone

[53:16] price has gone up, but the usage is

[53:18] about the same.

[53:19] >> Yeah. cuz there was a hike in [snorts]

[53:22] >> electric last year and there's going to

[53:24] be another hike this year.

[53:25] >> Yeah. But we could take we could take

[53:28] that media money if we if we're saying

[53:30] that we're going to if if we left the

[53:32] media money at like $100 so that you

[53:35] could get something

[53:37] >> and then put half of that in utilities

[53:40] and half of that in speakers is is a

[53:44] thought

[53:48] because we do have

[53:49] >> Well, I'm here's my car money.

[53:53] >> Yeah. Yeah. This is this is where my

[53:55] thought is coming in now. If if we're

[53:57] going to do that, let's take that money

[53:59] from media and put it up with utilities.

[54:02] And anything you want to do for

[54:04] programming, go ahead and take it from

[54:06] the Carnegie

[54:09] money.

[54:11] >> Not too, but not to exceed. [laughter]

[54:14] >> Well,

[54:17] >> I don't know if I'd say anything.

[54:19] [laughter] And there should be a balance

[54:21] between adult programming and children

[54:24] programming. So it's equal or at least

[54:26] near equal and I think some

[54:28] collaboration too. The friends are

[54:30] supporting programming.

[54:32] >> So I think to kind of you make sure that

[54:36] you're on the same page with what you

[54:38] know they are willing to offer and and

[54:40] make it a collaborative effort with

[54:43] programming.

[54:45] But the the other thing is we've talked

[54:47] in the past about trying to get more

[54:50] children into the library and doing

[54:52] these afterchool events. kids kids are

[54:56] you know parents are looking for things

[54:57] for kids to do between three and five

[55:01] [snorts] and you know there might be

[55:03] something something there you know I

[55:06] mean I'm not against doing adult

[55:08] programming but at all but the more you

[55:11] can get and like you did that robotics

[55:13] thing but but that was there was only an

[55:15] opening for six kids you know

[55:19] there I'm sure you've got lots of ideas.

[55:27] » There's lots of programming options and

[55:30] oftent times I do feel like some of the

[55:34] children's programmings like if I do

[55:36] them with the wreck, they could just be

[55:38] free and that's not a problem there. But

[55:40] if you want to get somebody that's

[55:42] exciting and fun in, it's not that the

[55:45] wreck programming is not exciting and

[55:46] fun. Let me stop that one there. I I if

[55:50] you want to get something different in,

[55:52] they can be costly and there's a lot of

[55:56] um other areas that like I I just think

[56:01] if there was more room with programming,

[56:06] there could be more options. And

[56:10] um and I do I do think that with the

[56:13] Carnegie money if we can set aside some

[56:14] of it and do like a monthly lecture

[56:17] series or monthly something that's

[56:19] Carnegie History America

[56:22] >> Library

[56:24] that would exciting

[56:27] >> but I'd also you know like if you start

[56:29] those routines I'd like to be able to

[56:31] continue things like that and we don't

[56:32] have Carnegie money for forever. So, if

[56:34] we can increase the budget to allow for

[56:38] those options, we can continue with

[56:39] those. Like part of it, I'm I am going

[56:42] to get children's books with the cliff grant. And so, my book budget is

[56:47] going to be larger this year, but I also

[56:50] think we should not reduce that book

[56:52] budget because I don't want to have to

[56:56] reask for more later.

[56:58] >> Right. Just my thought to those

[57:03] parts, too. things are more expensive to

[57:06] have and I think

[57:06] >> how much how much are you looking for in

[57:09] terms of programming then

[57:11] >> I'm not entirely positive and I'm sorry

[57:13] that I don't have a good answer there.

[57:15] Um

[57:16] >> I mean because some people will charge

[57:18] you $250.

[57:19] >> Yep. And

[57:20] >> some will charge you 550

[57:23] >> and some through the humanities may only

[57:26] be $75 plus

[57:28] >> uh travel fees. So, I think there's, you

[57:32] know, different ways that, you know, we

[57:34] can

[57:35] support the programming here. Um, but it

[57:40] might it might be nice for us to really

[57:42] have a better uh working knowledge of

[57:45] just exactly how much, you know, and and

[57:48] the friends can chip in

[57:51] um as well. Um but, you know, that's a

[57:55] friend's decision, not a not a board

[57:57] decision.

[57:58] So um

[57:59] >> how how has that worked in the past?

[58:01] Does does the programming ideas come

[58:04] from the friends and bring it from the

[58:07] friends to the librarian or does the

[58:10] librarian come up with ideas and bring

[58:12] it to the friends?

[58:13] >> I think it's both. [clears throat] Yeah,

[58:16] should be both, right? Have you gone to

[58:18] the friends with any ideas yet?

[58:19] >> I have.

[58:21] >> And I know that the friends have already

[58:24] come with in with ideas.

[58:29] So,

[58:33] » the friends are always looking for

[58:34] ideas.

[58:35] >> We really are. Um, and Jenny's and

[58:38] Jenny's, you know, brought brought

[58:39] stuff. [clears throat]

[58:43] » I do like the idea that Alyssa has.

[58:45] Bring it down to $100 for the media and

[58:50] audio.

[58:51] >> I didn't say that.

[58:52] >> I thought you said to bring bring it

[58:54] down to $100. That way it was still open

[58:56] and you could still

[58:57] >> Well, I mean I I think you still need I

[58:59] wouldn't

[59:00] >> get rid of zero.

[59:03] We're not going to get rid of the line

[59:04] item.

[59:05] >> No, we So I I do like the idea. Maybe it

[59:08] was Chris who said bring it down to

[59:10] $100.

[59:11] >> Um so if we take the media down to $100

[59:16] >> and we need at least 500 in the

[59:18] utilities

[59:20] because that's how far we were before.

[59:23] So 5,000 in utilities.

[59:26] >> 500 5,500 for utilities.

[59:29] >> Yeah. 5,500.

[59:31] >> Oh, I see. Wait a minute. Last year it

[59:34] was4500

[59:36] and this year it's 5,000.

[59:40] [snorts] So we actually spent 5,000 last

[59:43] year and we're budgeted for 5,000. But

[59:46] you're saying it's going to go up again

[59:48] >> for next year. Yeah, it's going to go up

[59:50] because all these tariffs that Trump has

[59:52] been putting on us and there I've been

[59:54] hearing in the news that Canada's going

[59:56] to be like, "Yeah, keep it up. We're

[59:58] going to raise your rates."

[59:59] >> Right.

[59:59] >> Or cut you off. One of the two.

[1:00:01] >> Yeah. I'm waiting for Canada to cut to

[1:00:02] cut us off. Which Vermont would be

[1:00:04] >> So if we go to the 5,500,

[1:00:09] we if we go over, we go over,

[1:00:11] >> right?

[1:00:12] >> I mean, but at least we have some of it.

[1:00:14] >> All right. And that leaves us with 400

[1:00:17] >> for programs.

[1:00:20] >> So we'll go up to 900 for the programs

[1:00:23] then.

[1:00:24] >> All right. So far we haven't

[1:00:28] >> Do you think that would work, Jenny?

[1:00:30] >> We'll try.

[1:00:31] >> Okay.

[1:00:31] >> To start with.

[1:00:32] >> Mhm. And you've still got car You've

[1:00:35] still got some Carnegie money. And this

[1:00:38] would this would ease us,

[1:00:42] right?

[1:00:44] Thank you.

[1:00:45] >> Okay, so let's go over everything else

[1:00:47] except for salary. Um, let's start at

[1:00:51] the bottom. Postage, has that gone up?

[1:00:54] Post the price of stamps has gone up to

[1:00:56] 81 cents a stamp. So, that has

[1:00:58] increased. I have not purchased postage.

[1:01:01] The postage that has been purchased has

[1:01:03] been Amy um buying them for herself to

[1:01:06] do the

[1:01:07] >> send out bills

[1:01:08] >> the bill to do the bills and it's she

[1:01:10] spent 156 for her whatever she

[1:01:13] purchased.

[1:01:14] >> And do you sometimes use

[1:01:16] >> I have a small rule right there um in

[1:01:20] the drawer and um when I mail I have not

[1:01:25] mailed a card envelope letter at all.

[1:01:28] I've only mailed inter library loans and

[1:01:31] that is dollars um and then um get

[1:01:35] reimbursed through the petty cash for

[1:01:37] those. So

[1:01:39] >> you've been at 150 or

[1:01:41] >> Yeah. I mean I've had a role of

[1:01:46] because I send out letters when we when

[1:01:49] anybody donates anything to the library.

[1:01:52] I send out letters and you know and

[1:01:54] that's

[1:01:55] >> well you know I don't want to lose

[1:01:57] patrons so that um I have to mail out

[1:01:59] letters but yeah

[1:02:01] >> I mean

[1:02:01] >> but you know I because I send all the

[1:02:03] thank you correspondence. Mhm.

[1:02:05] >> Yeah.

[1:02:06] >> Okay. So, leave that at 150. Inter

[1:02:09] library loans.

[1:02:11] >> I haven't heard anything about the value

[1:02:14] changing for the inter library loans.

[1:02:17] So, um it would

[1:02:18] >> the cost of gas might go up which would impact

[1:02:23] >> in general, but they the what was it?

[1:02:26] Six $685 was what the

[1:02:31] grant

[1:02:33] didn't cover.

[1:02:35] It looks like $38. Yeah. Got my in $50.

[1:02:40] >> Yeah, I think we had to raise it at

[1:02:41] least that

[1:02:43] >> $650.

[1:02:50] » The fiber connect. I printed that one

[1:02:52] out. You still have

[1:02:55] automation and membership dues

[1:02:59] seem to be

[1:02:59] >> well the fiber connect that's that's

[1:03:01] zero because we have a grant for this

[1:03:03] >> that gets covered but we have to put it

[1:03:05] in the budget

[1:03:07] >> right but then it ends up getting added

[1:03:09] back in again. She didn't add it in in

[1:03:12] July but it does in

[1:03:14] >> How long is that grant good for?

[1:03:16] >> I think we still have $4,000 I think is

[1:03:18] what it is.

[1:03:19] >> Well it they gave us a chunk of change

[1:03:21] is what it is. It's not a grant for the

[1:03:23] um

[1:03:24] >> okay

[1:03:25] >> for the um automation

[1:03:27] the fiber connect.

[1:03:29] >> So we have 10 that's where our $10,000

[1:03:31] CD

[1:03:32] >> and when that money's gone that money's

[1:03:34] gone.

[1:03:35] >> So that was the money.

[1:03:41] » I think we have it because Chris takes

[1:03:44] out the 901.

[1:03:46] >> I take out money periodically for it.

[1:03:49] >> [snorts]

[1:03:50] >> So technically we have $3,000 that we

[1:03:53] have to pay a year for that for the

[1:03:56] >> we get build and Chris pays the bill but

[1:04:00] it's from that pot of money.

[1:04:02] >> But just because that's the way the

[1:04:05] federal [snorts] government

[1:04:07] had had us do that in the past.

[1:04:10] >> The budget line stays zero though.

[1:04:13] >> The budget line can stay zero for it.

[1:04:15] >> We we always put in whatever how much is

[1:04:18] it?

[1:04:18] >> No. See the the budget line is zero and

[1:04:21] then the money go just gets put in the

[1:04:23] pot.

[1:04:24] >> In the past we've always had to put

[1:04:26] enough money in to cover the cost of the

[1:04:28] bill even though we have the money in

[1:04:30] the bank. Okay, that's just to let

[1:04:31] people know that yes, we do get build

[1:04:34] that is the cost. We have money in the

[1:04:35] bank to pay for that because one of

[1:04:37] these days

[1:04:38] >> we are going the money was not going to

[1:04:40] be there.

[1:04:41] >> Okay.

[1:04:43] >> All right. computers. We

[1:04:45] >> and that was just the way we always did

[1:04:47] it with the um and it was based on free

[1:04:51] and reduced lunch, you know, what

[1:04:53] percentage we paid, but that that

[1:04:54] program's

[1:04:56] >> USAC. Yeah. So then the fiber connect

[1:04:58] we're putting in at $2,000 then

[1:05:01] >> I would I would put in $2,000

[1:05:09] » even though it's [snorts]

[1:05:12] you know and and it's like any budget,

[1:05:14] >> right?

[1:05:14] >> We we'll what we'll spend is 2,000 what

[1:05:18] we get in we'll get $2,000.

[1:05:23] So it

[1:05:24] >> it equals Yeah. There's a balance of

[1:05:27] zero there.

[1:05:28] >> Yeah.

[1:05:30] >> In automation, we're just going to keep

[1:05:31] it at two grand.

[1:05:33] >> Yeah.

[1:05:36] » Cuz that's $800, right? You said

[1:05:39] >> Yes. It It's 800 twice a year.

[1:05:42] >> Yeah.

[1:05:43] >> So we we had about 500. We also have to

[1:05:46] buy automation

[1:05:51] scanner things and labels and yeah.

[1:05:55] >> Okay.

[1:05:56] >> And the membership is pretty good. And

[1:06:00] computers, we had some money left over,

[1:06:03] but the explanation was that was because

[1:06:05] of the computer that Carol purchased

[1:06:08] that never was sent was more than the

[1:06:11] computer I ended up purchasing. And so

[1:06:13] that is why that excess was there.

[1:06:16] >> And we never quite know what happens

[1:06:18] with computers.

[1:06:19] >> They're all working well right

[1:06:21] [laughter]

[1:06:23] stay working.

[1:06:26] >> So we'll keep that at the 12.

[1:06:28] >> I would

[1:06:34] supplies

[1:06:37] » I have not purchased copier paper this

[1:06:39] whole past year cuz there was enough in

[1:06:42] there. I'm getting down to it. I don't

[1:06:44] know what a ream of copier paper costs.

[1:06:48] Um5 $6

[1:06:50] >> for the

[1:06:51] >> for for a box. 500 ream is 500 pieces of

[1:06:54] paper.

[1:06:54] >> Okay. So, I meant the box of them.

[1:06:57] >> So, it's got to be 50 or Yeah.

[1:06:59] >> Yeah.

[1:07:00] >> So, that would fit in with what's left

[1:07:02] over.

[1:07:03] >> 18. There's

[1:07:06] >> you only you only spent about half of

[1:07:08] the budget last year. Mhm.

[1:07:09] >> But that How much does it cost? Like the

[1:07:12] guy comes in and he cleans the copier

[1:07:14] and all that good kind of stuff.

[1:07:16] >> I have not had him come do that.

[1:07:18] >> Okay.

[1:07:20] >> I might just ask

[1:07:22] >> what.

[1:07:22] >> So, we'll keep it at the 18.

[1:07:24] >> I would.

[1:07:24] >> Yes, I would.

[1:07:28] » And inspection. See, we didn't we didn't

[1:07:31] spend all our inspection money, but

[1:07:32] we're going to, so I would leave that

[1:07:34] alone. Um, I don't know if your report

[1:07:37] shows the It was $500 from Green

[1:07:40] Mountain Sprinkler in the previous

[1:07:42] inspection and I don't think that this

[1:07:44] one shows that.

[1:07:45] >> I don't think it does.

[1:07:46] >> Um,

[1:07:47] >> so we'll leave it at the 25.

[1:07:50] >> I think we have to leave it at the

[1:07:52] $2,500.

[1:07:53] >> Yeah,

[1:07:55] >> I don't think they've gone down.

[1:07:57] >> No.

[1:07:58] >> And repairs,

[1:07:59] >> we'll leave that at the five.

[1:08:01] >> I would leave that alone. And the travel in the past has always been

[1:08:08] for Terry Deamassie to go to they have

[1:08:13] show every year

[1:08:14] >> about different programs for the library

[1:08:17] and uh and Terry's always gone and

[1:08:20] gotten all that information. Um is there

[1:08:23] any travel you need to do?

[1:08:27] Um at a couple different conferences

[1:08:29] they're starting to do them together. I

[1:08:30] went to the one in Burlington. and I

[1:08:32] didn't put in for reimbursement of

[1:08:34] traveling up there.

[1:08:35] >> You can do that.

[1:08:36] >> Um, and then

[1:08:38] >> there's a couple like there's going to

[1:08:39] be a director's conference in November,

[1:08:42] late October. I can't remember. I mean,

[1:08:44] there are a couple different

[1:08:46] conferences.

[1:08:49] >> I would raise it up to 150.

[1:08:51] >> 150.

[1:08:52] >> Yeah, cuz Yeah, if we're doing mileage,

[1:08:55] what is it now per mile? It's like 70

[1:09:00] 72 and a2 73 cents a mile.

[1:09:04] >> So yeah, $50 won't will take you

[1:09:07] >> won't take you far.

[1:09:08] >> Nope.

[1:09:14] » Yeah, because anything library related

[1:09:16] like that, Jenny, um we do cover the

[1:09:19] mileage for you. Okay.

[1:09:26] digital

[1:09:27] >> digital overdrive. We went we went over

[1:09:29] on overdrive

[1:09:31] >> but but this year's budget [snorts] is

[1:09:35] $500 higher than last year's was

[1:09:38] >> 5,000

[1:09:40] >> it's $5,000 but we were going No, wait a

[1:09:43] minute. I'm I'm looking at the wrong

[1:09:44] one. Digital drive. It's $5500

[1:09:47] >> for this year.

[1:09:49] >> which is what was spent last year,

[1:09:51] >> which is what Yeah.

[1:09:52] Do we want to keep it at that?

[1:09:54] >> No. Okay. Oh, I'm looking at the wrong

[1:09:56] one.

[1:09:58] >> No, you're looking at the right one.

[1:10:00] >> Yeah, I know. But I was looking at the

[1:10:01] wrong one on this page

[1:10:04] >> because we spent $5,537.

[1:10:09] » Right.

[1:10:10] >> So, we didn't go over much, but I think

[1:10:13] more people are using

[1:10:15] >> So, you want to make it 6,000?

[1:10:18] >> I think, Jenny, more people are using

[1:10:20] the digital overdrive. Correct.

[1:10:23] >> They are it's used um

[1:10:27] >> well we can look and see what our

[1:10:30] >> 158 borrows

[1:10:32] um this past month and that is about

[1:10:36] consistent

[1:10:38] and

[1:10:39] >> does it does it go are they different

[1:10:42] prices for different books? Is that

[1:10:44] that's the hard part? Audio books can be

[1:10:47] about $100 a book and then digital books

[1:10:50] are less or um and then it does vary by

[1:10:54] like how long you want the book for or

[1:10:57] how many

[1:10:58] >> how many months you want or

[1:11:00] >> things. So it is expensive in general,

[1:11:05] >> but a lot of people are using that

[1:11:07] service rather than

[1:11:11] I I would I would I know I hate to raise

[1:11:14] the budget too much, but um

[1:11:18] it costs money.

[1:11:20] >> Go to six.

[1:11:21] >> I I would go to six. I don't know. What

[1:11:23] does everybody else feel? Yeah,

[1:11:27] >> I think we'll sp Well,

[1:11:29] I mean I I mean we're a library. We have

[1:11:31] to provide books.

[1:11:34] >> Do you want to [snorts]

[1:11:36] play with the book

[1:11:39] budget

[1:11:41] there for that? I mean that's we already

[1:11:44] got

[1:11:44] >> you have a better idea of

[1:11:48] how you want to do that.

[1:11:50] >> Honestly, I don't want to play with the

[1:11:51] book budget but I that is a I mean

[1:11:54] because That's what we're all about.

[1:11:55] >> Yeah. Yeah. And

[1:11:57] >> I mean, we have to heat the building.

[1:11:59] That's our That's our [snorts] thing.

[1:12:00] But we also want to make sure we have

[1:12:03] things to read for kids and adults.

[1:12:08] » And And you know, everybody's going to

[1:12:10] computers, but there's a swing back.

[1:12:14] That's you know, at at schools, they're

[1:12:18] going to they're taking away the

[1:12:20] computers and going back to books. So,

[1:12:23] we'll see

[1:12:28] because but this is after because I

[1:12:29] don't have the I won't have the grant in

[1:12:32] 2028 either. It's this year the 2027

[1:12:36] that has the cliff money,

[1:12:38] >> right?

[1:12:39] >> So, it it's it's the next year that

[1:12:42] >> So, we keep it as it is.

[1:12:44] >> I

[1:12:45] >> or do we need to increase it?

[1:12:47] >> I would say keep it as it is.

[1:12:51] and workman's comp. We haven't gotten

[1:12:53] anything from the insurance company,

[1:12:54] have we?

[1:12:55] >> No, we did. We just paid it. And I think

[1:12:58] the bill was just signed upstairs.

[1:13:04] » Do you know what that was?

[1:13:07] >> I don't remember. And it's in an

[1:13:08] envelope

[1:13:10] when it was a lot. I remember being

[1:13:13] like, "Oh my gosh, what is this bill?"

[1:13:16] Um, it was a lot. It was over $1,000.

[1:13:21] I'm sorry. Do you want me to go grab it

[1:13:23] upstairs?

[1:13:24] >> No. Well,

[1:13:25] >> but the bill comes once a year.

[1:13:28] >> Yes.

[1:13:29] >> And it was 13 1300s last year. [snorts]

[1:13:33] >> Um 1350. No, it was

[1:13:35] >> paid 12 last year.

[1:13:37] >> 12,200 last year and we budgeted 1350.

[1:13:43] It It didn't come through on on July's

[1:13:46] bill.

[1:13:48] on July's.

[1:13:49] >> No, it's upstairs. So that's August or

[1:13:52] September.

[1:13:54] Dear,

[1:13:56] >> you want to go up and

[1:13:58] >> I can go grab it.

[1:14:00] Don't have it down here.

[1:14:06] » I'll be right back. I'm sorry.

[1:14:08] >> Sorry.

[1:14:10] >> And And if we're if we were going to go

[1:14:12] up 3% on the payroll, it would be 3%

[1:14:16] of

[1:14:18] 54,274,

[1:14:21] right?

[1:14:24] The 20 the 2020. No.

[1:14:26] >> No.

[1:14:27] >> On [snorts] the other on the other on on

[1:14:29] this one here, it'd be that number 3% of

[1:14:33] that, right?

[1:14:34] >> Yeah.

[1:14:35] >> See what it is at three and see what it

[1:14:37] is at 3.2, Chris, because 3.2 is the

[1:14:41] cola.

[1:14:59] It

[1:15:01] is $1,221.

[1:15:04] >> Okay. So,

[1:15:04] >> same as last year.

[1:15:06] >> Okay, good.

[1:15:07] >> Oh, yeah. We'll keep

[1:15:08] >> I think we can keep the same.

[1:15:10] >> I love thoseund.

[1:15:13] Yeah. 1350.

[1:15:19] Oh, I just did it for 32%.

[1:15:22] [laughter]

[1:15:23] Well, that'd be a nice race. Um, and I'm

[1:15:26] because I'm not really sure

[1:15:28] >> because we had Carol and Jenny working

[1:15:30] at the same time. So, that's that.

[1:15:36] » So, do we want to take 24 budget?

[1:15:38] >> But wait a minute. No,

[1:15:40] >> we had them both working in 20

[1:15:44] >> not in 2026.

[1:15:46] >> No,

[1:15:48] mom didn't work in 26.

[1:15:49] >> No.

[1:15:50] >> Yeah.

[1:15:55] » So, this would be the right one.

[1:15:59] » All right. If you take

[1:16:02] 3 If you take 3.2% 2% of the 54 274 I

[1:16:08] get 1736.

[1:16:11] Somebody else should do that math

[1:16:14] just to double check me.

[1:16:26] » Did you guys do fuel?

[1:16:28] >> No, I think we're going to keep it the

[1:16:30] same

[1:16:30] >> cuz this is the right 50. This is the

[1:16:32] number we're multiplying by. Right.

[1:16:34] >> Right.

[1:16:38] » It's got to be pretty close cuz 3 * 15

[1:16:40] is 15.

[1:16:42] >> 3.2.

[1:16:47] » 17 36 77.

[1:16:49] >> Yep. That's what I get.

[1:17:21] We're moving to 5611.

[1:17:24] >> What do you What? How? How are you

[1:17:26] getting there?

[1:17:28] Well, if we're going to keep this,

[1:17:31] >> but what is that already? What

[1:17:34] percentage did we already go?

[1:17:37] >> Yeah, but this is 2027 on this sheet and

[1:17:41] we're deal and we're doing 2020 28.

[1:17:45] >> Okay. Yes, it's it's really hard. You

[1:17:48] have to shine your crystal ball.

[1:17:50] >> Yeah, we're we're a year and a half

[1:17:51] ahead.

[1:17:52] >> Okay,

[1:17:54] >> that's that's the hard part.

[1:17:57] Uh,

[1:17:57] >> is that what you came up with?

[1:17:59] >> 54 274

[1:18:02] plus 1736

[1:18:07] 56 1106

[1:18:10] 56,

[1:18:14] $116.

[1:18:19] » Now, what does that what does all of

[1:18:21] these changes do to the budget?

[1:18:24] >> Needs to go up. Yeah, that's a good

[1:18:26] question.

[1:18:27] >> It's going up

[1:18:31] five grand at least

[1:18:34] >> cuz utilities we went to 5,500. Right.

[1:18:37] But but remember Oh, you when you

[1:18:40] get down here, you got to take the 900

[1:18:42] out of the media.

[1:18:45] >> So, we put it somewhere else

[1:18:47] >> because really our our budget that we

[1:18:49] give to them is only what what we call

[1:18:53] what cost us. It doesn't show what we

[1:18:56] plan to get,

[1:18:58] >> you know, how we plan to offset in

[1:19:02] assets, the $11,000

[1:19:05] or whatever it is.

[1:19:07] [clears throat]

[1:19:11] Oh, and then the fuel.

[1:19:14] >> So, you want to keep it at 8,300 for

[1:19:17] books and periodicals and 5,000 for

[1:19:20] juvenile?

[1:19:21] >> Yes, please.

[1:19:30] And in media, we're going to $100.

[1:19:35] And speakers and programs, we're going

[1:19:37] to 900.

[1:20:01] » [snorts]

[1:20:03] >> Rude.

[1:20:15] Is this the number you end up with at

[1:20:17] the bottom?

[1:20:21] Yep.

[1:20:22] >> Oh, good.

[1:20:23] >> Cuz we can we can keep that at zero for

[1:20:26] this particular

[1:20:27] >> for which one?

[1:20:28] >> Keep the fiber connect. We don't have to

[1:20:30] add the $2,000. Okay.

[1:20:32] >> She can keep it at zero for

[1:20:34] >> She wants to keep the fiber connect at

[1:20:35] zero

[1:20:36] >> just because we

[1:20:38] >> which would get us down to 104.

[1:20:41] >> Okay. So, take $2,000 out of there

[1:20:44] because of the fiber connect. So it's

[1:20:47] 104,

[1:20:50] » 2060

[1:20:53] cents.

[1:20:54] >> 6 cents

[1:20:56] 60.

[1:21:00] » What did you bring the fuel to?

[1:21:03] >> We left

[1:21:05] it. Okay,

[1:21:06] >> maybe um

[1:21:10] » keep a record of

[1:21:11] >> So let's see what let's see when they

[1:21:14] can increase that.

[1:21:15] I don't get them because Amy works with

[1:21:18] them and so it goes straight to her. So

[1:21:21] I can ask her

[1:21:22] >> to keep record of how much I use. So I

[1:21:27] know

[1:21:27] >> she can give us some historical data so

[1:21:29] that we have an idea.

[1:21:30] >> Yeah. Maybe have her go back a little if

[1:21:32] she can.

[1:21:33] >> Yeah.

[1:21:36] >> Cuz really that's almost 102.

[1:21:38] We're going to 104.

[1:21:44] I will ask her that

[1:21:49] » cuz I don't even know she doesn't have

[1:21:53] the motions.

[1:21:53] >> Do you do you take the increase over

[1:21:57] last year's budget or the increase over

[1:21:59] this year's budget

[1:22:02] to figure out the percent increase? You

[1:22:04] take it over last year's, don't you?

[1:22:05] >> I subtracted what it was and what what

[1:22:07] percentage that is of the budget

[1:22:09] >> of what percentage that is of the

[1:22:12] present budget. the 2028 budget or the

[1:22:15] 2027 budget?

[1:22:16] >> I would say it's 101.814

[1:22:20] times whatever

[1:22:22] time 3% and see what you get.

[1:22:25] >> 3.2%.

[1:22:27] >> I think it's something like that.

[1:22:31] >> What are you calculating?

[1:22:32] >> What what percentage increase the budget is?

[1:22:37] >> Because people are going to ask about

[1:22:38] it,

[1:22:38] >> right? How what percentage is it going

[1:22:41] up?

[1:22:49] I didn't bring my

[1:22:50] >> It drives me crazy that I can't do this

[1:22:53] to me. I I think what you do is take the

[1:22:56] difference between the 101 and the 104,

[1:22:58] >> right?

[1:22:59] >> And divide it by the 101

[1:23:02] and that gives you your percentage.

[1:23:04] >> See if it comes out to 3%.

[1:23:07] >> Well, I did it once and it came out to

[1:23:09] 23 to 2%. Well, it might because it's

[1:23:13] really only $2,200 and $2,400.

[1:23:18] [clears throat]

[1:23:28] That's wrong.

[1:23:31] >> It's less than 2.9%.

[1:23:34] >> So, we can say 3%.

[1:23:36] >> I get 2.3.

[1:23:37] >> Yeah. No. Yeah.

[1:23:38] >> Yeah. So, about 3%.

[1:23:41] Well, 2.3 isn't isn't

[1:23:43] >> that's a pretty low percentage.

[1:23:45] >> Yeah.

[1:23:47] Less than

[1:23:51] » less than the cost of living.

[1:23:53] >> Yeah.

[1:23:56] » Okay. And so if and and the only thing

[1:23:59] that we really did

[1:24:02] we we juggled some money

[1:24:05] >> and and and we can say we're going to do

[1:24:08] a little bit more with but see our more

[1:24:10] with programming was was out of the

[1:24:12] medium money. So really

[1:24:15] >> we we we switched the numbers around a

[1:24:17] little bit and because we were

[1:24:21] >> it's really salaries and utilities.

[1:24:23] >> Yeah. And we don't know.

[1:24:25] >> Yeah. Yeah. in terms of I mean and we're

[1:24:27] keeping the util well we raised

[1:24:29] utilities but we didn't raise fuel oil

[1:24:30] because we still came in a little under

[1:24:33] and we'll all pray for a really warm

[1:24:34] [laughter]

[1:24:36] >> winter but

[1:24:37] >> do you want me to make the motion?

[1:24:39] >> Sure.

[1:24:42] Um, I move that we

[1:24:46] submit

[1:24:48] a budget for fiscal year 2028

[1:24:52] totaling $14,2160

[1:24:57] that in

[1:24:58] >> 6ent

[1:25:00] 6 not.

[1:25:01] >> I thought it was 60 because it's because

[1:25:03] I wrote 60 down here. 6 cents.

[1:25:09] and to include a 3.2%

[1:25:13] increase in salaries.

[1:25:21] And you can say that it averages 2.3%

[1:25:25] increase on on the total budget. 2.3%

[1:25:29] increase.

[1:25:44] Need a second.

[1:25:46] So, it's been moved that we submit a

[1:25:49] budget of $14,216

[1:25:53] with include which includes

[1:25:57] 3.2% 2% cost of living raise

[1:26:03] and is an overall average of 2.3%

[1:26:07] increase.

[1:26:09] >> I'll second that.

[1:26:12] >> All those in favor

[1:26:13] >> this has got a question I think.

[1:26:15] >> No, I'm just going to abstain. This is

[1:26:17] really difficult to do to get all the

[1:26:19] information during the meeting and not

[1:26:22] have anything ahead of time to review

[1:26:24] and be able to ask questions and think

[1:26:26] about. So it' be nice to review what we

[1:26:29] did.

[1:26:29] >> Do you want to wait till next month?

[1:26:32] >> I think that would be helpful just so

[1:26:33] that I can kind of wrap my arms around.

[1:26:36] I'll table

[1:26:38] >> Do you want to re But I don't want to I

[1:26:42] don't want to hold anything up either,

[1:26:43] but I just

[1:26:45] >> Yeah.

[1:26:45] >> Well, we're ahead of the game

[1:26:47] >> cuz we don't usually do it in September.

[1:26:49] >> We don't usually do it in We usually do

[1:26:51] it in October.

[1:26:52] >> Yeah. Um, Ron's not going to be here in

[1:26:56] October.

[1:26:57] >> But that's fine. You guys

[1:26:58] >> and I'm not going to be here in October.

[1:27:01] >> I'm going to be in Alabama.

[1:27:02] >> So, the three of you will need to be

[1:27:04] here. Are you going to be here?

[1:27:07] >> Yes.

[1:27:08] >> Other other than if we don't approve it

[1:27:12] in October, we have to approve it in

[1:27:14] November. And that's when the budget has

[1:27:17] to be in is in November.

[1:27:20] >> So, yeah.

[1:27:23] See what trying to

[1:27:26] >> should I ask Danny about that

[1:27:30] >> the person we ask is

[1:27:32] >> so the 4th would be the first

[1:27:35] >> oh

[1:27:36] >> Wednesday of November

[1:27:37] >> I think we could probably

[1:27:38] >> I think cuz I think it's by the 11th we

[1:27:40] have to have that in

[1:27:41] >> something like that to the town office.

[1:27:42] >> Yeah. So that gives us time to to

[1:27:45] revisit

[1:27:46] >> and maybe by then

[1:27:48] >> we're going to try and find out how much

[1:27:51] >> clarity on the fuel

[1:27:52] >> fuel's

[1:27:53] >> maybe

[1:27:54] >> and you know and and we're asking 18

[1:27:56] months in advance.

[1:27:58] >> So it's not how much it is tomorrow.

[1:28:00] It's how much it's going to be 18 months

[1:28:02] from now.

[1:28:02] >> And and we're not going to have a lot

[1:28:04] more information for you um Alyssa two

[1:28:08] months from now.

[1:28:09] >> No. the the whole thing is

[1:28:12] >> um

[1:28:13] >> a

[1:28:13] >> lot to think about.

[1:28:14] >> Well, it's a lot to think about and it's

[1:28:15] I think it's um especially somebody new

[1:28:18] coming in to look at this budget in this

[1:28:21] capacity. It's a lot to soak in to get

[1:28:25] handed when you walk into the meeting

[1:28:27] [laughter] and then [clears throat]

[1:28:28] okay now we're going to vote on it. It

[1:28:30] just doesn't feel like you've put not in

[1:28:32] general. I don't feel like I've put a

[1:28:34] lot of thought into it and I want to

[1:28:35] make a thoughtful decision.

[1:28:36] >> Okay,

[1:28:38] >> we respect that. Thanks.

[1:28:40] >> We'll table it until November.

[1:28:41] >> Yeah, we'll table till we Well,

[1:28:44] >> yeah,

[1:28:45] >> unless you want to do it on October if

[1:28:46] nothing really changes. But Jenny in the

[1:28:48] meantime can maybe you know take a look

[1:28:51] at if there's

[1:28:54] a pressing need um for you know with

[1:28:57] Cliff books and if she wants she thinks

[1:29:00] she needs more money in

[1:29:02] >> in programming

[1:29:03] >> and programming and books let you know

[1:29:05] we can we can make we can make those

[1:29:07] adjustments

[1:29:12] » and and you know what in the and in the

[1:29:14] meantime

[1:29:16] we can call Samson and see how much fuel

[1:29:18] we use.

[1:29:20] >> Yeah.

[1:29:24] Just what we spent last year on fuel

[1:29:27] just

[1:29:30] >> doesn't seem like a whole lot unless

[1:29:31] somebody

[1:29:32] >> Is the tank empty?

[1:29:35] >> No, we can go look.

[1:29:36] >> We can look after.

[1:29:37] >> Yep. I make uh I move we adjourn at

[1:29:41] 7:30. I second it.

[1:29:43] >> All those in favor? Hi.

[1:29:44] >> Hi.

[1:29:45] >> Our next meeting will be on October

[1:29:47] >> 7th.

[1:29:49] Seventh. October 7th. So, what's in my

[1:29:50] minutes?

[1:29:51] >> October 7th.

Fair Haven Library Board Meeting - September 2, 2026

Transcript