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[0:06] Well, it was seven o'clock on Wednesday, September 9th. All council members are present with Richard attending via Zoom. Do I have anybody that wants to offer prior pledge of allegiance?
[0:21] Thank you, Tyler.
[0:26] Are you having it followed or becoming authority as
[0:29] we are learning the Fairfield Time Council meeting.
[0:32] I would guidegroaning our hearts
[0:34] for theuter bless of life we live.
[0:36] We are grateful for the country
[0:38] we live in, the time to be part of
[0:41] and the beauty that surrounds us.
[0:43] We ask to the United as we discuss a very
[0:44] thing that we could be gathered
[0:47] at the decisions we make will be for the
[0:50] betterment of not only community now
[0:51] but the community, for a long time
[0:54] in the future. That was a work of God. This we pray in the name of Jesus Christ later.
[0:59] Thank you.
[1:02] Welcome to the entrance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which
[1:09] it stands one nation under God in the physical liberty and justice for all.
[1:16] All
[1:18] right, moving on to reports and discussions.
[1:22] I'm
[1:28] going to ask you to stay with us in a closed session afterward to discuss something.
[1:35] So if you would like to leave that item off of your report.
[1:41] For the month of August, the stats, we have one accent with an injury.
[1:47] We have three animal complaints, two agency assists, two motor assists, three follow ups, one threatening, two of inspections, two welfare checks and 27 transfer stops.
[2:01] She's a busy little guy.
[2:04] Yeah, so I know there was information regarding some graffiti on the playground at Bay Contact with one of three suspects of that and I'll probably make another contact tonight with the number.
[2:18] So just try to figure out where that will go.
[2:21] Okay.
[2:22] So we're working on that case.
[2:23] Thank you.
[2:24] Cool.
[2:24] Thank you.
[2:26] Number two, Wayne.
[2:29] Okay, thanks for having me, planning and zoning, because this front
[2:34] was a little short, we had to have two meetings this month already.
[2:38] But we got the court session done for the CUP and the public hearing done.
[2:44] There's only one on that.
[2:47] Preces for overdone that are have those treatments where we could change things,
[2:51] but you can treat that if you don't have it, you can find it.
[2:56] But we went through the CUB and recommended it with a positive recommendation.
[3:03] And that's all we have for tonight and Tony.
[3:06] Thank you.
[3:10] Next on the agenda is the mayor's report.
[3:13] Just a couple of things.
[3:14] I want to update you guys on.
[3:17] Saad should be laid in the park within two weeks.
[3:20] So I think it's looking really good.
[3:22] And as far as I'm aware, it stayed under budget for this portion of the week
[3:27] the park. It does look really good. It does look really good. Jared West have sent me an email with
[3:34] 458 aprophy of water rights tonight that I would consider that to be at the preliminary stages
[3:41] for review for the gold mine development. I forwarded them to Eric Mell for his review and I'm
[3:47] horrible that they are adequate water rights for our area. So that will be good to get those
[3:53] was verified before he moves any further.
[3:57] We issued a TI permit for Garth Jacqueline today, for OBMB.
[4:05] He added on to his building and he's finishing a portion of the inside of it.
[4:09] I'm not sure exactly what he's wanting to do with that, but we issued that today.
[4:14] Down here?
[4:15] Yeah, down here is the green colored building.
[4:18] We issued a building permit for Ryan Levin last month. I just don't think I
[4:23] updated you guys on that and it's for his barn which is was it 20,000 square
[4:28] feet or a chance. So it's pretty big building an indoor arena so we're glad to
[4:36] have him doing business in Kirkville. We are already over the anticipated
[4:42] amount for building permits this year so within two miles we've issued that
[4:48] many so we will have to read adjust that part of the budget at some point.
[4:53] The Roadmasters Plan is moving along. I had a meeting with them. Well, me and RL
[5:00] and Cody met with them what two weeks ago and discussed some of our issues and
[5:05] then I met with them again last Thursday to get the counters on the road and so
[5:09] we have counters going in right here on Main Street.
[5:14] Yeah, it's in and then we have one going to the south of Ellen's Ranch Road. We have one going south on Ellen's Ranch Road.
[5:24] I believe two there so we can capture how many semis are going past North Point landfill.
[5:30] And then we have one going up on the north side of Fairfield right as you enter into Fairfield's property.
[5:35] and then we're actually having them when having them do one on Polk Canyon Boulevard so we can see how many
[5:41] semis are running down that road because that will give us a good indication of when the gold mine
[5:47] development goes in and they put in that nine forty north that goes back to the data centers. I think
[5:52] that will be a good indicator of how much traffic we can anticipate there. So we did use one of our
[5:57] counters for Polline and then I believe Cedar Fort is doing one to the north of Polline where they
[6:04] are today? Did you? Yeah, they were there. They're there this morning. Okay.
[6:08] Actually, this morning. This morning? They were there at 3.30 in the morning.
[6:13] Huh, so they must have yesterday. Yeah, the errors was in. The one
[6:16] that's outside the town and then the one for the north was in also. So I wasn't
[6:22] expecting them to get going on it that quick, but that's good. So that will give us some
[6:26] good indication of how many semis are actually coming out here. Is it just counting
[6:31] cars and semis? Is it doing how to eat everything? Everything.
[6:34] The speed to be able to track what?
[6:36] Uh-huh.
[6:37] Commitability, atmosphere, vehicles?
[6:39] Yes.
[6:40] Vehicle speeds everything.
[6:42] So I think it will be really good to see what.
[6:44] I bet we're going to all be blown away by the traffic that's out here.
[6:48] I mean, I think we know it's a lot, but I think that that will be pretty significant.
[6:53] So anyway, that's all for me that I can think of.
[6:57] It's been a busy month.
[6:58] And there's just a lot of moving parts with the gold mine development.
[7:02] They're, I feel like they're working with us pretty well and keeping us updated with
[7:07] things.
[7:09] And they're working with planning commission.
[7:10] He came in last, last month and did an update.
[7:14] Yeah, he was online last, not yesterday, but the Wednesday prior, and he kind of, they backed
[7:23] off a little bit and pushed me to be hard to get some stuff through, they backed off a little
[7:27] they're trying to work some things out whatever life is. So he said, I'll be back him up too.
[7:32] I think their project is family and so they're almost there. They've got things worked out
[7:38] and then it's big and it's just growing. Yeah. To what of what? All, I mean, not in detail, but
[7:47] area of gold, gold mines or gold mines, or gold mines, where, what development,
[7:58] Yeah, I don't know if they're calling the whole thing gold mine or what they're doing at the day they are. I think they are fairfield project gold mine.
[8:12] So maybe broad you know that if they're calling the whole thing gold mine or if it is.
[8:19] just a portion of that.
[8:22] My recollection is that the portion that's called gold mine is stuff that we've seen
[8:31] on the map that they've shared with us.
[8:33] I don't know if they could be whatever stuff that they're thinking about might be included in that too,
[8:42] but my recollection was that in the gold mine specific document that they share a list of draft form,
[8:48] I think that was related to just to the residential debt.
[8:56] So, unclear it might be, it might be all implicit,
[8:59] it might just be the residential stuff.
[9:02] But the draft that we've seen from them so far,
[9:05] and Jim has seen it, I've seen it, and Mayor's seen it.
[9:09] They're not ready to present it yet, so we don't have it.
[9:15] It's not ours, it's theirs, so they could give it,
[9:18] It would be given in some additional feedback on it, but it's not.
[9:23] I do the last class I heard they were going partners and asking them for their input on it.
[9:30] But I think both the commercial and the residential portion have been labeled gold mine of the packets that we've seen.
[9:37] So I think that's true, yeah, just a little bit of a gold mine, I have idea what we're talking about.
[9:45] Yeah, so okay, I do not have anything else. Is there any general public comment?
[9:55] Anybody?
[9:56] Not seeing any wheel move on to the consent items
[10:02] Stephanie, I had a couple I had a comment that I had just recently did you get that fixed?
[10:08] You got both of them fixed. Okay
[10:11] Looking for a motion to approve the consent items
[10:14] So I have one thing on that
[10:17] that on the minus, that is just more of a critical thing.
[10:23] On paragraph, it goes to Attorney Christophson.
[10:27] Then in the next paragraph, it says,
[10:29] Brad Christophson is so long as they're consistent
[10:32] throughout the document.
[10:34] Yeah, consistency is good.
[10:35] Which one was that?
[10:36] Or do you know?
[10:38] I'd have to look back through this.
[10:40] Thank you so much.
[11:02] You've got it on close to public areas.
[11:09] Well, I'm showing two of three, or I'm showing three of them.
[11:14] Yeah, page 13.
[11:30] They all say attorney Brad Christopherson.
[11:33] Oh, there's all page six just says attorney Christopherson.
[11:37] Yeah.
[11:38] And they're sorry, page seven.
[11:47] There's a twice missing barrier.
[11:49] It
[11:56] starts a sentence with Christopherson also noted.
[11:59] Yeah, page seven.
[12:00] Let's see that out.
[12:25] fixed the one that was above page seven.
[12:27] Any
[12:39] other questions?
[12:44] I'm looking for you. Motion, please.
[12:47] Motion approved.
[12:49] All in
[12:52] favor?
[12:54] Collier?
[12:56] Collier?
[13:02] All right. Business items.
[13:05] Ordnance, number 2026-10. Conditional use permit. Procedures and standards.
[13:11] Staff review. We have Jim Spung here to give us the staff review.
[13:16] Jim, the time is yours.
[13:19] All right.
[13:20] Thank you.
[13:20] Mayor, hello council.
[13:22] Can you see the slides?
[13:23] Okay.
[13:35] think it's technical on our end.
[13:40] Let me, let me try it again.
[13:43] Stephanie, do you have what's going on here?
[13:53] No, there you go.
[13:54] There it is.
[13:54] Thank you.
[13:55] Okay.
[13:56] Perfect.
[13:57] So Brad asked that I've only taken hours and eggs.
[14:00] I'll try to keep it to at least an hour.
[14:02] He can keep it.
[14:03] Okay, he's a little love of ours.
[14:08] You know what, I'll give him a great background.
[14:11] Yeah.
[14:13] I'll keep a pretty high level, but feel free to jump in with questions or if you need
[14:18] for the clarification.
[14:19] So to provide a little background, as you all know, the town passed the resolution in March
[14:24] of this year, placing a temporary moratorium on conditional use permit reviews.
[14:30] and really the intent there was to allow the town some time to update the CEP standards
[14:35] and procedures so they're more clear and consistent, legally defensible.
[14:39] So that's what we've been working on the last of a while.
[14:43] So after this ordinance, if the town council chooses to adopt it, the town would then resume
[14:50] processing condition use permits as they're submitted.
[14:54] So to start off, a little humor is always fun.
[15:00] This is pretty funny because it's true, and it's a little time-in-chief, but it's true that conditional uses are allowed, uses, but then you have to read 16 more pages of the code to really understand what that means. So, and I'll walk through what some of the changes are that we're proposing tonight. Just at a high level, this is a general outline of how the review process of work start to finish, and this is all outlined in the new draft.
[15:28] So, before an applicant would submit an application, they would meet with the staff myself and
[15:35] Paulie and whoever else would be involved in the review.
[15:38] Really just to get a high level overview of the process, what types of things they need to submit with their application,
[15:44] and they do submit fees that are associated, you know, things that you would want to know before you get into the application review process.
[15:52] because the second part is actually submitted the application.
[15:56] The second part is staff making sure that the application is complete before we actually
[16:02] send it out for review.
[16:04] The third step is distributing the information to the Fire Marshal to town staff.
[16:10] However, it is that would be a capture station over the decision.
[16:14] The fourth step is the public hearing of the Planning Commission.
[16:17] And then one change that this draft is proposing is it's shifting the final approval authority
[16:24] from the planning commission to the town council.
[16:26] So the planning commission would still have the public hearing and make a recommendation
[16:30] but the town council would then actually review the application and make the final determination
[16:36] on approval or not or what commissions would apply.
[16:41] And then the draft also clarifies issues with compliance where there's an appeal after a decision
[16:47] has been made. How about how that's handled? So these next couple of slides are just, you know,
[16:54] kind of all chronic lists of, you know, what's changing from the current code. So again, more
[17:01] clear requirements for an application. There is language in here requiring the town or allowing
[17:09] the town to require studies or any supporting information needed to evaluate a land use
[17:16] Again, shifts the review authority from the Climate Commission to the Council, clarifies
[17:21] that conditions have to be addressed any detrimental effects, and that's for the speed statute.
[17:29] In the outlines, how we can record the decision in the record so that it's very clear if
[17:35] both for the town and the applicant as to what the expectation is. We're shifting the expiration
[17:40] from 180 days to 12 months, which is more consistent with other municipalities and jurisdictions.
[17:50] The draft outlines, you know, how someone could modify an application that's already been submitted,
[17:56] clarifying that any minor modifications could be approved by the staff administratively,
[18:01] but anything they would have to go back through the process with both finding commission and council.
[18:08] There's some extension language in there for how someone can extend an approval.
[18:11] will more clear language regarding enforcement
[18:15] and if there are violations or issues
[18:18] and what the town, what tools are available for the town
[18:23] to enforce the code as well as some clarity on applicants
[18:26] and to know what the expectation is
[18:28] so that they're not getting a bit trouble down the road.
[18:32] We didn't eliminate the current standard in the code
[18:36] that would require any commissional use permit
[18:39] to be re-evaluated or renewed every five years.
[18:42] We thought that was a little cumbersome and it's not very common.
[18:46] So rather than having that BS standalone baseline rule,
[18:53] the draft says that if there's any issues or concerns,
[18:56] the town can bring back an application for review voluntarily
[19:00] or run it as needed basis, unless with fair-file heels.
[19:05] And then there are several updates to the definitions,
[19:07] just to help, you know, support what the new language says.
[19:12] So, that in a nutshell is to
[19:25] review in the past.
[19:40] The council be the
[19:44] annual decision maker.
[19:50] Not really,
[19:55] it's a small town,
[19:58] you know,
[19:59] ten applications every month that you're reviewing.
[20:01] So, I would say in most bigger cities,
[20:03] the planning commission would generally handle reviews.
[20:06] sometimes even the staff the director of planning would have the authority to review
[20:11] those. You may see a handful of applications annually having a town council
[20:19] review it isn't a burden and I and Mayor you could weigh in but
[20:26] the town council
[20:27] might walk the authority in just a second set of eyes conditional use
[20:32] applications that come through so Prada Mayor feel free to weigh in on what you
[20:37] think questions about this, May or May and June and because I would say it's more common
[20:47] for the smaller population towns to have the council be the decision maker. But yes,
[20:53] as soon as you get into, you know, you get into the 2500 people or more, you're quite a bit
[20:58] more commercial stuff. And you guys can always make a change. If we can make a change tonight,
[21:03] if you guys don't like this, but we can also make a change and revisit it. This becomes
[21:07] more of a burden than what we anticipated, but honestly, I don't know if this is going to be
[21:15] the initial reaction. This will not be a burden on you guys as this
[21:20] much more, but if it does, it becomes one, we can only see make a change.
[21:32] But I care, it's just, it sounded a little bit unique, and I don't know what we need.
[21:38] Final decision making on it, the planning commission is fully capable, and the staff,
[21:42] staff is reviewing a hand planning commission. I don't know what I see. I think they're really
[21:48] afraid. It's another set of eyes. I guess that's another set of eyes. And I feel like, you know,
[21:55] planning commission is mostly volunteer and they don't know that I don't know that they would feel
[22:03] comfortable approving a conditional use permit at this point. Well, you were certainly guided whoever
[22:12] on that process. One of the things, and you probably, if you've already had training
[22:18] on this, stopped me, but one of the things that is really, conditional use permits are
[22:23] one of the most litigated matters in land use right now in the state of Utah. So having
[22:28] extra civilized doesn't hurt, but the key on a conditional use permit, if you have something
[22:35] listed in your code, it says, this is additional use. That doesn't mean you can say no.
[22:41] It means you can have conditions.
[22:43] That's all of me.
[22:44] It doesn't mean you can ever come back and say,
[22:46] well, it's official use and we don't think
[22:49] that we want it right now.
[22:50] So we're going to deny it.
[22:52] The only chance that you have denied it
[22:54] is if we have identified a detrimental effect
[22:59] and we cannot apply a condition
[23:02] that will reasonably be
[23:07] detrimental effects
[23:08] of whatever it is.
[23:09] So let's say, let's say it's an incinerator of some sort, right?
[23:17] Some incinerator, some incinerator that somebody wants to bring and put one of the landfills,
[23:21] and they say, okay, we've got this garbage incinerator you want to bring.
[23:24] Or by the way, it produces large amounts of carbon monoxide.
[23:29] We're like, okay, we don't like that.
[23:32] How do we mitigate that?
[23:33] So anyway, we find there's some scientific thing we can put some appliance on
[23:37] or something to mitigate that or something.
[23:39] I mean, I'm not, this isn't scientific, I'm just pulling, you know, things out of
[23:43] a half.
[23:44] But if you can find a way that you might disagree with a detrimental effect, you can address
[23:50] it reasonably so to prevent, you know, damage to the health, safety and welfare of the town
[23:56] and residents, then you have to approve it.
[23:59] If you can't find anything to do that, that would be the basis for denying one of you identified
[24:05] some additional effect, and you can't put a condition on.
[24:07] So, the better way to look at it is ignition use is not something we can prevent.
[24:13] It's something we have for a group, but we're allowed to do conditions on as long as
[24:17] in recent.
[24:22] I think they might require, I think my whole thought behind it, because I think that it
[24:26] could be good either way, I think that it's going to require a little more time than what
[24:33] planning commission has to give to it.
[24:36] That's my whole thought behind it.
[24:40] Well, I think the commission is going to need to refer to us or not, so we'll get their
[24:47] intake on it.
[24:48] Yeah, so it's got to go off for the balance.
[24:50] Yeah.
[24:51] This is going through another process.
[24:55] Isn't there a comment in there, Jim, that if we don't decide it, it moves on just
[25:02] plain.
[25:08] Yeah, sorry.
[25:09] Isn't there a section in there that says that the planning commission sits on it or doesn't,
[25:15] You know, if you look at this and move it forward, it just moves forward.
[25:23] So it says in there that if there's a, if the motion fails or the commission can't reach a majority vote that it would still get passed along to the council with no recommendation, which I think is common for most any actions that would go to the council with the planning commission recommendation.
[25:40] So,
[25:47] I think it's our benefit, and we could change it later if it becomes for them soon to deal with it.
[25:55] Yeah.
[25:56] But whatever you guys think.
[26:03] Okay.
[26:04] Was anything else brought to your attention other than the appeals process that we need to work on immediately?
[26:11] I think
[26:17] that was the one thing that, I mean, we, I am working on getting the skills processes resolved for all of the code.
[26:30] So that we have a consistent skills process with anything that we're going to, the plan was to do it similarly to the, the business license appeals.
[26:56] So there was
[27:06] a public hearing last night and we had one public comment command.
[27:12] Most of it was complimentary and then there was some issues that was brought up but we addressed all of the planning commission addressed them.
[27:20] And they talked about them all, and I think that they were good comments that we considered
[27:27] in major recommendations on, so is there anything else?
[27:38] Oh, Jim, you did add something beyond the public hearing.
[27:43] Do you want to say what you added about the appeals process?
[27:50] Yeah, so the appeals school
[27:57] procedure for conditional uses were simply just directing
[28:00] readers to the appeals section of the code that's already existing.
[28:03] As Brad mentioned, he's working on some updates outside of this amendment, but we did
[28:09] clarify that any language that's conflicting with this new conditional use section, that
[28:18] this new section would govern if there's a discrepancy or a conflict, but that the appeals
[28:24] process is already outlined in the code would really be the foundational process that
[28:30] someone would go through. I guess one change from the current code is that the current
[28:36] code lists the town council as the appeal authority. And based on some recent state legislation,
[28:43] The town council can no longer be the appeal authority or an administrative matter.
[28:48] So that was a change that we had to make to be compliant with the Utah code.
[28:54] So like I said, rather than redrafting a whole separate appeals process, we're just pointing
[28:59] people to the appeals procedures you have in the code today.
[29:05] And that's referenced in the draft.
[29:07] Okay.
[29:08] So, you came up with a motion, right, out of that language?
[29:16] I'm into the Google Doc, the ordinance.
[29:24] I've got how to
[29:39] include that language.
[29:40] So it's just approving what is there as long as the council is okay with it.
[29:47] Okay.
[29:47] So you're fine with the language that's on the agenda.
[29:50] 17
[30:00] So it's section, I'm going to scroll up here and find the exact reference.
[30:08] Let's see, so it's under
[30:14] letter
[30:20] seven.
[30:24] It just says if it conflict exists between this section and any other code provision related to appeals, this section shall control. Which is adding that sentence.
[30:36] So do we need to add that sentence in the motion?
[30:53] So that would change from yesterday, the planning commission didn't have that much in there, but if motion
[31:01] needs to be different, we were adopting the
[31:06] CUP process as presented by staff, and that's what was presented by staff here tonight.
[31:12] The motions would be any different.
[31:14] Yes, you're right.
[31:18] Right at the very top of 17.
[31:22] But it doesn't mean you can say that is what we're going to be doing.
[31:24] No, but I'm just telling you that's what was added today is what that is.
[31:27] All right, I'm looking for a motion, please.
[31:30] There's no more discussion on that.
[31:32] The motion to be adopted ordinance number two zero two six dash one zero.
[31:38] Which is a many fairfield code one to four dot one eight through one to four dot one eighty eight.
[31:45] Related to initially use permit procedures and standards.
[32:06] have one random question for everyone before we go to the post session.
[32:12] Have you guys got a contest?
[32:14] Do you like it?
[32:15] Yeah.
[32:16] I'm wondering about that.
[32:17] I'm probably going to switch to their phone.
[32:19] That was fine.
[32:19] Is that the same as the Verizon towers?
[32:22] Mm-hmm.
[32:23] And way cheaper.
[32:24] That's what you told me.
[32:24] and the money you save on your phone
[32:28] more than makes up for what it costs you on your phone.
[32:31] But I don't think we've even done that.
[32:32] At the internet, he told me you guys
[32:35] always love anybody, but yeah.
[32:37] Oh, you know, I haven't had any problems,
[32:40] but something to consider Brett told me
[32:43] that Silver Lake will be going bankrupt within six months.
[32:46] So he was holding off until everybody
[32:48] had something to switch over to.
[32:55] Yeah, we're doing an online school for me, it's got to be good, so we're, we're, we're
[33:02] the process.
[33:04] So it'd be interesting to see how their bond works.
[33:07] I'm probably switching next week.
[33:08] Let me know.
[33:09] It's, it's, it's everything bright, because they've got the same coverage.
[33:12] They provide five or two varieties of towers, so if you have a horizon, it's, it's your
[33:18] a rise of service to no brain or throw in a lot less money, a lot less money.
[33:23] I didn't have good luck with rise and service, but I don't know if it's just me or what,
[33:28] but it got really expensive too.
[33:30] I don't think it used to be, for sure, in rural areas, but next up, I'm going to deep it out
[33:35] by showing you.
[33:36] Deep it out.
[33:38] We switched and we have a lot of gamers at my house, and it's been great.
[33:44] Some boys are happy.
[33:45] for $5.00 a month for five years,
[33:48] like $15.00 in for five years.
[33:51] Yeah, it has been good.
[33:54] But everybody should start the process of switching
[33:57] if they want to have internet,
[33:59] because it took Cody quite a while to get hooked up.
[34:03] So, we did it.
[34:05] They extended that.
[34:06] Then they write in a brand title.
[34:11] Say, I'll be free much because he's claiming bankruptcy.
[34:15] So I checked, I did actually have that
[34:16] on the agenda to discuss that contract. That's actually why I reached out to rat to see if you
[34:23] could come in here and update where that money went to and the improvements you made because I've
[34:27] heard people say that they weren't having the service that they thought they should. And he said,
[34:32] well, it doesn't matter anyway. So within the next six months, he's planning bankruptcy. So,
[34:38] that's where that conversation pretty much ended. I just said, I'm sorry to hear that. And
[34:42] I don't know. That's basically up.
[34:46] That's how it was working. I was too.
[34:49] We started doing homeschool on that.
[34:52] The camp, which is kind of thing.
[34:57] All right. Well, I'm looking for a motion to adjourn
[35:00] into a closed session and Michael.
[35:06] I'll make a motion that we temporarily recessed.
[35:10] Council meeting to go to their close meeting for the following purposes, discussion of the character professional competence of physical mental health and individual and strategy sessions to discuss, to discuss pending or reasonably in their dedication.
[35:23] Time is 735.
[35:26] Do I have a second?
[35:27] Second.
[35:29] All in favor?
[35:31] All right,
[35:40] yes.
[35:40] Officer Dutton to stay.
[35:41] And we will discuss the
[35:45] Okay, we're going to work on that first.
[35:47] The terms of the professional competence
[35:49] and physical mental health of individual first.
[35:52] And then we will ask him to leave.
[35:53] We'll ask them that.
[35:55] Yeah, how do you do that?
[35:57] Yes.
[35:57] How do you want to deal with,
[35:58] tell you if you look on here, right?
[36:01] There's a door.
[36:02] Where are we?
[36:03] We're going to have to take things, guys.
[36:05] Thank you, Jim.
[36:07] Oh, yes, thank you.
[36:12] I can't hear what Richard could
[36:17] be somehow different than on this for the close session.
[36:20] I'm able to lock it so nobody can get it.
[36:24] Yeah, but it's still the same recording.
[36:26] Not because I could turn off the recording.
[36:28] Please know this session recording has stopped.
[36:31] Okay.
[36:32] So are they, can maybe you guys still hear me without it being recorded?
[36:37] We can still hear you.
[36:38] Okay.
[36:38] So we have, so there's just the, okay, all right, so let's stop for the first part of this.
[36:46] Let's talk with the portion that the sheriff's here for and then, get up here.
[36:51] And then,