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[4:15]
Julie
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Langa from Eversource. We are requesting the approval of one fully
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owned pole, 108 over 9.5, within the
[5:20]
right of way on Green Street. New pole is required to
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support the proposed secondary electric facilities and service
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configuration in this area and allow the existing backyard
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service arrangement to be reconfigured.
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Thank you.
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Do we have any questions from the board at this time?
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Thank you.
[5:45]
One question I do have, just because this has come up a lot in the past.
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Will this require the removal of any trees or
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any sort of restructuring to
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the infrastructure there besides the moving of the
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pole,
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Ms. Langa?
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No, it's going to be a brand-new pole, and there will be no tree
[6:15]
removal for that to be installed.
[6:18]
Excellent. Okay, thank you.
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Any questions from the board?
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As this is a public hearing, do we have any questions from the public?
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If you could please step forward and just state your name and address for the
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record.
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Yes. My name is John Heavey. I live at 24 Green Street. Sorry, just one more time.
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John Heavey. I live at 24 Green Street.
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Thank you. Welcome.
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Good evening.
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I'm right across the street from where the pole's going up.
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I understand the necessity of the electrical service to 26, our next door
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neighbor. If she could just clarify, in the backyard,
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there is a pole and there are lines that run to 26, but also to
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24. So my question is, I think I saw the diagram earlier
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in the day that the lines
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from the back pole, the backyard pole, to 26 are going to be
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removed, but the ones to our property, 24, are going to remain.
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Is that clear? Do I have that right?
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Salanda, any response?
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Yes. We heard from the person for 26, so
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that's what we're going to do. If you were interested in having your
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service moved to the front of the property, I could have somebody
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get in touch with you as well.
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Okay. So in other words, if it were moved to the front,
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it would eliminate the backyard
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service that currently exists going to the back of our house?
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Yes. So what's going to happen is 26 is going to have their
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line removed from the back-
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Right
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... of the house to the front of the house.
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If you were interested in doing the same thing, then I could have somebody contact
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you as well.
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Yes. That'd be great. Thank you.
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Okay.
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Any further questions for-
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That's it.
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Okay, thank you. Is there anyone else in the public that wishes to be recognized
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from the room?
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Is there anyone else on Zoom?
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All right. Hearing none, I will now close the public hearing at
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6:05 PM.
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I will entertain a motion to approve petition for job and work order
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number 27795573 from NStar
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Electric Company, doing business as Eversource Energy, Verizon New
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England Inc, to install one new fully owned pole to be
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labeled 108-9.5 in the right of way of Green
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Street to provide upgraded electrical service to 26
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Green Street.
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So moved.
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Second.
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Motion's been made and seconded. Do we have any further discussion on the motion?
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Hearing none, all those in favor?
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Aye.
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Any opposed? Passes unanimously.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for joining us.
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Okay. Bye bye.
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All right. Up next, I will open the meeting for public comment.
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Anyone wishing to address the board will be recognized for two minutes.
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Please clearly state your name and address for the record.
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As a reminder, the board will not engage in public comment tonight,
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but will direct you to the appropriate point of contact if
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necessary. Please, just name and address for the record.
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Okay, I'll try to talk fast. I only have two minutes.
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My name is Ray Bermude.
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Our domicile is in Springfield, Missouri,
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but my wife has owned a condo at 138
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Main Street since 2000.
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When we're not here, she rents her condo.
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The extensive and excessive noise at the
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intersection of Main and Huddleston Street
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is why I'm here.
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The vehicle exhaust noise when taking off, it interrupts
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conversations, our sleep,
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and
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at times in acquiring renters.
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So I'm here to express concerns regarding that excessive noise level,
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disturbance of the peace, violation of local and state ordinances,
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zoning bylaws, breach of quiet hours, et cetera.
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So I've done a little bit of research,
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and so the ordinance and zoning laws as I understand them, which
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here in Fairhaven, is that there are quiet hours between the hours of 9:00
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PM and 7:00 AM.
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And then a regulation was cited,
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C-310 CMR
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7.10,
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with maximum decibels of 10 dBA, whatever all that means.
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And so the law generally measures unreasonable noise
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as what a reasonable person would say is unreasonable,
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decibel levels, and the time of day.
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The Massachusetts law. So,
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the administration regulation and enforcement, as I understand it,
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is by the Massachusetts Department of Environmental Protection,
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but they defer to the local
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one that I just quoted, 310 CMR 7.10,
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has to be less than 10 decibels. I did call and talk to
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somebody at the regional office of the Environmental
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Protection
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Department, and they cited 310
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CMR 7.52, which allows local
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enforcement of the noise levels, although they have
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the jurisdiction, but they allow-
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So that is your two minutes. Are you requesting more time from the board?
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Yeah, if I could have just a couple more minutes.
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Two more minutes?
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Let's say three.
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Okay.
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I'll try to be-
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Additional minutes?
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I appreciate it.
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Additional minutes has been granted, thank you.
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Okay. And then there's the motor vehicle registration.
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They have requirements in terms of exhaust limits.
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This is all from what I understand.
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But to your owners, after they pass the vehicle registration, they'll take them
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home, they'll modify their exhaust And it gets outrageous.
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So basically,
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because I've talked to the police in the past, a couple of years I've talked to the
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police. I encountered some policemen a couple of weeks ago
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who suggested that I come here and talk to you guys, because what I'd like to
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see happen,
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first of all, is that the laws and the ordinances and whatever would
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be enforced, but I understand that's difficult to do.
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When I talked to the Department of Environmental Protection, they
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definitely sympathized with us and our concerns with the loud
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noises. But what I'd really like to see done, because I'm not sure,
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the police told me they really didn't feel like...
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While it's annoying, there's not a lot they can do about it.
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What I'd like to see is a sign posted at that intersection, a
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warning sign that says, "If you violate
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our noise ordinances, that you will either be cited,
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or your license will be suspended, or you'll be fined." So,
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that's my presentation.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And it looks like you have some listening ears in the room as well too
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. Is there anyone else tonight that would like to be recognized for public comment?
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Please come forward. Again, just state your name and address for the record.
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You have two minutes.
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Joan Welch, 138 Main Street. So I want
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to reiterate that what you heard was a lot of just mumble jumble,
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but there are these drag races that go back and forth over the
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bridge really fast, and motorcycle rallies
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and things like that. I know a lot of this might die down when it gets colder
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for the motorcycles, but I don't know about the drag racing, so
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just letting you know.
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Thank you very much. Anyone else in the room that would like to be recognized for
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public comment?
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Anyone online that would like to be recognized for public comment, please indicate
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with a raised hand icon.
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Seeing none, we are going to move on to our next agenda item.
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So under C, Appointments and Community Items, we have appointment
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request, Board of Assessors, Rui
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Pereira. As the board is aware, there is currently an
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opening on the Board of Assessors due to a recent resignation.
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The position was advertised, and Mr.
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Rui Pereira submitted his letter of interest.
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Included in your board materials is a completed volunteer form and resume.
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As you will see, Mr. Pereira has several years of experience in the assessing
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field. Is Mr. Pereira here tonight?
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Please step forward. The podium is yours. Introduce yourself.
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Good evening. My name's Rui Pereira.
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I currently live at 98 Poplar Road in New Bedford,
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Massachusetts.
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Can I stop you for just one second? Mr.
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Hickey, you reached out to town counsel to confirm there's no residency requirement
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for-
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I could not reach town counsel, but I did check and
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found at least
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informally, there is no residency requirement, and
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I know we haven't had one either.
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Okay. I just wanted to make sure that we were being consistent. Please continue.
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Sorry about that.
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Like I said, I live at 98 Poplar Road in New
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Bedford, Massachusetts. I'm currently the Director of Assessing for the
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town of Bourne. I became aware of the board position
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here through the internet, and also through Bruce.
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I've worked with him in the past. He encouraged me to look into applying.
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So I did apply.
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My assessing background goes back to 2008,
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2009. I've kind of worked my way up the ranks.
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This is a little bit different for me on the other side of the hat.
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Usually, I'm kind of directing my board.
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So now I'm kind of receiving information from the assessor.
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So it's a little different hat to wear, but I'm sure I can
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be comfortable in understanding how that role works.
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Obviously, I'm well aware of the open meeting laws.
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As far as also the Board of Assessors duty under Chapter 59,
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Section 21, I'm well aware of those duties.
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Anybody has any questions?
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Any questions from the board for Mr. Pereira?
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No, thank you.
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Mr. DiCianni?
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No.
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Ms. Mella?
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No.
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Mr. Bella?
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What are some of the big challenges that you're seeing as an assessor?
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It's really catching up with the market sales.
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Every year we have to kind of analyze our sales, and I've been seeing a kind of a
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stabilization a bit more. For a while,
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during those COVID, they call them the COVID sales.
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It took a lot of towns and cities to kind of catch up to that activity that was
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going. So now we've kind of been seeing somewhat of a stable
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values across the board as far as sale prices.
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So that's kind of been the biggest challenge, has been that, I would say, and
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just the day-to-day operations. So it's a busy office
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between processing applications, and we have a lot of for exemptions.
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Those have to be handled very delicately.
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A lot of timeframe constraints that the day-to-day job the
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office handles. That's kind of the challenges.
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It's just it's an everyday-
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That was going to be my next question.
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Yeah.
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So are you seeing a lot of exemptions being sent into your office?
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Yeah. The town I work for, we did
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go into the HEROES Act. So a lot of our exemptions were,
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we had the base amount, so then the town voted to go to 100%.
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So a lot of them kind of was pretty much a whole 50% swing in the
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exemption. So we've definitely seen a lot more applicants.
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There's a lot of applicants that are not sure once they get the disability letter
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from the VA. There's not a lot of outreach sometimes, so.
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But I think that HERO Act, a lot of it was broadcast on the media, and that kind of
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got people out to apply. So we've gotten a lot of exemptions that have increased.
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I know in my office, probably went up about 10% from just because of that HERO
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Act. And then-
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Okay
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... with the excise tax too, they get a full exemption off their excise
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tax too, or their disability percentage.
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Thank you, and thank you for applying.
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No problem.
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Thank you. And I know that you touched briefly on your familiarity with the open
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meeting law and ethics.
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Mm-hmm.
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One question that we have implemented asking applicants is, how do you approach
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situations where
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something that you feel you may want to do may contradict with what is stated in
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state law? Or if you may have a conflict of interest yourself, how do you typically
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go about those situations?
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Typically, if it's something I don't feel comfortable voting or anything
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like that, especially, I would recuse myself from it.
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If I know any particular applicant is applying for, I know with this
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position, you may know someone that's applying for an abatement, what they call.
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And obviously, you know that person, you may have to recuse yourself from that
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decision-making a lot. So that would be something I would
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obviously handle very duly, and I
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take that very seriously.
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And obviously, you feel that there's no way that
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because you're in a much different area and market than we are now, that being in
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this position in Bourne would have any sort of conflict with Fairhaven?
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Absolutely not. I actually think it's a benefit.
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I understand, really, the coastal community.
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I know a lot of properties here, they're affected by the FEMA 50/50% rules, and
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it's very similar that we have that issue in Bourne.
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So I'm very familiar as far as the waterfront landscape.
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I actually work for the city of Fairhaven as well, so I understand that really the
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waterfront, the landscape here in this town.
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Further questions on the board?
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No, thank you.
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All right. Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to appoint Rui Pereira to the
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Board of Assessors for a three-year term.
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Is it for a three-year term or is it to fill the vacancy?
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Three-year term.
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So moved.
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Second.
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Motions are made and seconded. Any further discussion from the board?
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Hearing none, all those in favor? Aye. Any opposed?
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Thank you. Please make sure you see the town clerk to be sworn in, because you may
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actually be here right now if you want to go.
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Thank you.
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We'll email you your time. Congratulations.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for volunteering.
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Yeah, thank you.
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Up next, we have event request. Southeastern Massachusetts Educational
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Collaborative Walkathon, October 24th, 2026.
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We have a representative from SMEC, Ms.
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Kim Wilmot here, contacted the Selectboard office after
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speaking with Lieutenant Swain, also here of the Fairhaven Police, to submit an
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event request for their walkathon.
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Police and fire are in support of the event and have worked with SMEC on details
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of the event. The board's packet materials contain their letter and the route
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details. Would you like to come up?
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Motion's coming up, just to let the board know.
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So this has been an event that's gone on for a number of years in the past.
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The police department and town offices found out about it, and so we're
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just going through the same process we would go through with any other
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organizations looking to have some sort of an event like this.
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So just to give everybody a sense, this is her first time here and
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SMEC's first time here, but it's an event that's gone on now for a
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while and been successful.
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Excellent.
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Thank you. Yes, we were encouraged to be present in case anyone had any
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questions. We first started the walk in 2018, so this is
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our eighth annual because we did not have one in 2020 for obvious
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reasons.
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The address at 56
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Bridge Street is our student services office. That's the starting and ending point.
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The neighbors have been wonderful.
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And one day, they actually came out and asked us to turn up the
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music so they could dance along with us as we got ready to go.
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Minimal disruption. When we first started planning the event, I met with
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Lieutenant Sebrell, and we made sure that we had all of the appropriate safety
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considerations in place, which is a police detail.
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We pay for two cruisers, one at the beginning, one at the end.
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But the majority of the walk is actually on the bike path.
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So we go down Green Street onto the bike path, loop around, and come
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back. Because we do work with a population of individuals
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who have a number of differences in their medical and physical
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statuses, we have a water stop out on the bike path
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staffed by our staff. We have a nurse on site, and we
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have a vehicle parked on a side street, so that if anyone isn't able to make
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the full route, we have one of our wheelchair-accessible vehicles with a driver who
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can bring them back safely.
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Do you have any questions from the board?
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No, thank you.
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Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to approve the event request for Southeastern
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Massachusetts Educational Collaborative Walkathon on October 24th,
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2026, with any conditions or requirements from police, fire, and
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public works.
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So moved.
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Second.
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The motions are made and seconded. Any discussion?
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I have one. I just want to say really quick, congratulations.
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It's my understanding this is your first walkathon as the executive director.
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It is. Thank you.
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So congratulations on your new role. Very well deserved.
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No one works harder than this woman here.
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I've had the pleasure of knowing her for many years.
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Our amazing executive director of 20 years retired.
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Mm.
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So
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yes, it happened.
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Great.
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She did.
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Right.
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28th was her last day. Thank you all so much.
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All right. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed?
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Passes unanimously. Thank you very much.
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Up next, we have request for the Fairhaven Police Department to consider
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traffic parking control request.
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No parking sign, Ash Street at the intersection of Adams.
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No left turn, Bridge Street, exit of 240 Bridge Street.
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Handicapped parking only sign, 41 Head Street. Lieutenant Swain.
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Good evening. Oh,
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hello.
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Good to see you, sir.
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Good. How's it? Selectboard. Mr. Hitch.
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Yes, I have to discuss the items in the agenda with you.
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Officer Coelho is our safety officer.
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When these issues arise, Officer Coelho goes out and does a site visit.
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And then we look into if
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what's being requested is possible.
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We either approve it or deny it based off of the site visit,
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and then we come forward to you for approval.
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So the first thing we have is a handicap parking sign to be
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installed in front of 41 Head Street.
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Oh, I'm sorry, we also conversed with the highway department prior to,
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so...
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So the site survey for 41 Hedge Street for the handicap parking
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sign. Hedge Street is a public way in the town of Fairhaven.
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The request for the handicap parking sign is for number 41, which is located
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between Main Street and Cherry Street on the south side of the road.
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It's currently two-sided parking permitted on the street and the block for this
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request. The street is approximately 545 feet long
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and 24 feet wide. There is no center line striping on the street.
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There are multiple single and multi-family houses on Hedge Street.
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Many of these homes do not have off-street parking available to them.
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There are fire hydrants on the north side of the street.
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The request, the applicant is requesting a handicap parking space in front of
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her property for use by her,
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and
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she has a handicap placard. She stated that although there is a driveway she shares
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on the property for the elderly father, does not have a placard, and he utilizes
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the driveway.
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Recommendation, we would support the installation of the handicap sign at this
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location.
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Recommendation, the sign be placed on the west side of the driveway for 41 Hedge
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Street. There is approximately 27 feet of
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space between the driveway of 39 and 41 Hedge
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Street, allowing for the required five-foot step back from these
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driveways. There is approximately 17 feet for vehicle parking.
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We do not believe it'll impede the snow removal during the winter months due to
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placement of the south side of the roadway.
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There are pictures.
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Should
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have presented prior. So we,
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after conversing with the highway department, decided that we fully support
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the installation of the handicap parking spots.
[25:46]
Just one procedural question.
[25:49]
I don't see here, similar to the public hearing that we had, that
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any of the abutters were notified for any of these positions.
[25:55]
Is that typically not
[25:57]
part of the procedure to notify the abutters or?
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I mean, the one on 240, obviously, that's mostly a commercial area, so.
[26:05]
Right.
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Not that we don't generally do it for these.
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That's a concern.
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Just a thought because I know both of those streets,
[26:16]
very heavy neighborhoods where there's a lot of people, and I don't know if they
[26:20]
would have any input. I mean, obviously,
[26:26]
the agenda was posted, and it was shared by Mr.
[26:28]
Hickey on his report, so we didn't get anything, but I was just curious because I
[26:32]
didn't notice any of that, and I feel like it could help prevent further
[26:36]
issues from-
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Yeah, something we can suggest going forward.
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Do you think it would be something that we should do for these, or would that hold
[26:44]
it up too long?
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If it's something that's requested, we could do it.
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I don't know if it's necessary. I mean, I guess I would see if the rest of the
[26:51]
board has any questions or comments. Mr. Sanders?
[26:54]
I'm good.
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Ms. Teacher?
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I mean, I guess the only thing I would say is, does she typically park
[27:00]
in front of her house for the most part anyway?
[27:03]
Well, the other thing to consider too is this handicap spot is not designated
[27:07]
strictly for her.
[27:07]
Right.
[27:08]
It's for anyone who has a placard. And she is well aware of that,
[27:12]
that she may come home, and there could be another vehicle in that spot.
[27:15]
And obviously, the no parking was requested by you for Ash Street.
[27:19]
Yes. And it's a-
[27:20]
The Ash Street is to aid with the bus. Oh, sorry, Ms. Teacher, you said.
[27:23]
Yeah, I
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guess what I'm saying is it's not going to increase the amount of cars parking.
[27:31]
Correct. She's in the neighborhood anyway.
[27:32]
Mm-hmm.
[27:33]
It's just designating a spot in front of her house.
[27:35]
Right, for her close to her house.
[27:36]
Mr. Moore?
[27:38]
I'm set. I'm good, thanks.
[27:40]
Okay,
[27:41]
so hearing no further questions, thank you for your time, unless you had anything
[27:44]
else for us.
[27:46]
Yeah, we have two-
[27:46]
Oh, I thought.
[27:47]
Two other ones.
[27:47]
Sorry, continue.
[27:48]
No, no problem. Yeah, so that was-
[27:50]
It's just one
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... specifically for that one.
[27:52]
The next one is for
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Adams.
[27:56]
Yeah.
[27:57]
They're going to read the room. They're ready to make a vote here.
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Ready to go.
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Next one's Bridge Street.
[28:07]
So what we have,
[28:08]
basically
[28:12]
what we have here is we're looking to improve the signage and traffic
[28:16]
flow.
[28:18]
So there currently is a no parking sign on Ash Street.
[28:23]
So basically, we request an updating of the no parking sign on the west end of Ash
[28:27]
Street, near Adams Street, to improve traffic flow while not limiting the
[28:31]
parking for business on the corner.
[28:34]
We've received several complaints from residents that live on Ash Street about
[28:37]
vehicles parked too close to the corner of Adams Street in violation of
[28:42]
town bylaw. Currently, there is no parking here.
[28:46]
The corner sign approximately 110 feet from Ash Street
[28:49]
on the south side.
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Vehicles parked in the space on the corner while going to the barber shop,
[28:56]
and then we get the residents' complaints.
[28:57]
So that sign's on Adams, the one you're talking about, right?
[29:00]
No, it's on-
[29:00]
It's 110 from Adams
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... but it's so far down Ash Street.
[29:03]
I don't think people realize the no parking signs there.
[29:06]
Mm-hmm.
[29:08]
So basically, the request that we're asking for that
[29:12]
is to move the sign approximately 29 feet
[29:15]
west. Does not change any of the allowed parking because there is
[29:19]
a wide driveway cut between this new location and the old location.
[29:23]
The reason for the move is to make the sign more obvious to motorists parking on
[29:26]
Ash Street, and the previous just stated it's just too far away
[29:30]
to be seen.
[29:33]
Also, we are looking to install a no park and hit a corner
[29:36]
sign across from the south side
[29:40]
of the north side to allow room for the school buses and other
[29:43]
large trucks to turn onto Ash Street during the
[29:47]
morning and dismissal time. It makes it very difficult for the buses to turn if
[29:50]
there's a vehicle parked there.
[29:53]
And we would also like to add
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a
[29:59]
updated sign at the top of Ash Street with the
[30:04]
one-way sign with the hours on it, duplicating the sign on School Street.
[30:08]
The one that currently there is really faded, difficult to read.
[30:11]
The hours are not listed on the Ash Street side.
[30:13]
Yeah, so the one on School Street has the hours.
[30:15]
We just want to just duplicate what's on the
[30:18]
School Street one.
[30:20]
Is that it for the Ash Street one?
[30:21]
Yes.
[30:21]
Questions from the board?
[30:23]
Yeah, I have one question. Right now, is Ash Street a one way at any point in
[30:27]
time? Or is it... So currently it says-
[30:30]
During school hours. So 7:00 to
[30:33]
9:00 and 3:00 to 5:00 or something like that. Yeah.
[30:38]
It just wasn't clear from this.
[30:39]
Yeah, they keep the flow of traffic going.
[30:43]
Well, thank you. Thank you, Mark.
[30:45]
Mr. Chappelle, any questions?
[30:46]
No. I do want to go back to the handicap parking sign though, before.
[30:50]
Okay, please.
[30:52]
Thank you for coming in this evening.
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In front of our town hall, we have that beautiful space that's open.
[30:58]
Any chance we could look at or put handicap parking signs
[31:02]
around town hall? I haven't seen any.
[31:05]
Yeah, I actually looked into that, at the request of the select board.
[31:08]
Okay.
[31:10]
There's currently a handicap sign on
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William Street, which coincides with the handicap entrance to Town
[31:18]
Hall.
[31:19]
Okay.
[31:19]
The reason there isn't one in the front of the building is because there's, I
[31:21]
believe, seven or eight steps-
[31:23]
Mm-hmm
[31:23]
... to get into Town Hall from the front.
[31:25]
Right.
[31:25]
So it really doesn't warrant a handicap spot in the front of Town Hall.
[31:30]
But there is one on the side.
[31:31]
Okay.
[31:32]
And one is the compliant number according to the building
[31:35]
inspector for the number of employees that we have here
[31:39]
at Town Hall.
[31:41]
I was thinking not so much the employees, but visitors, people coming in.
[31:44]
Yeah, it goes based on the usage of the building.
[31:47]
Thank you.
[31:48]
And I spoke with the highway department, and when they re...
[31:51]
After the gas job is done in there, with that street, they're going to improve
[31:55]
that handicap spot with
[31:57]
additional signage and street markings.
[32:00]
Thank you.
[32:01]
Sorry for that.
[32:02]
No, no problem.
[32:04]
If you want to jump right into Bridge.
[32:08]
So the request for Bridge Street,
[32:11]
this is a request directly from us.
[32:14]
So we're looking to install an enforceable no left turn sign
[32:18]
on Bridge Street coming out of the
[32:22]
T-Mobile/CAN Plaza. The issue, what's
[32:25]
happening right now is, vehicles are pulling out.
[32:29]
They're taking a left going across those
[32:32]
three lanes of traffic.
[32:35]
So they go south and then start heading east.
[32:37]
They go south out of the parking lot and then-
[32:39]
Yes.
[32:40]
East.
[32:40]
Yes. And we've had a few accidents where the first lane of
[32:44]
traffic stops to tell them to go-
[32:46]
The other one doesn't
[32:47]
... and realize there's another lane of traffic coming, and they get hit.
[32:51]
At a bang, at a boom.
[32:52]
Right. So just for the safety of that, that's a very busy
[32:55]
intersection.
[32:57]
We're looking to put something there that's not DOT
[33:00]
regulated.
[33:01]
The property owner did put up a sign that's not enforceable
[33:05]
from our perspective because it hasn't gone in front of the select board.
[33:09]
So basically, it's merely a make places, merely a
[33:13]
recommendation, suggestion. But we're looking for something that's legally
[33:16]
enforceable.
[33:19]
Any questions from the board?
[33:19]
I do. So I know just to the east, Alden,
[33:23]
GMC, Mazda, they have a similar type sign where you cannot
[33:27]
take the left.
[33:28]
Mm.
[33:28]
I think it's actually engineered into their curb cut.
[33:32]
Is that a sign that's what I'll call enforceable, or is that a
[33:36]
non-enforceable sign?
[33:37]
I believe it is.
[33:38]
Without looking at it, I'm going to go with probably not.
[33:40]
A lot of the ones you see in businesses, coming out of 7-Eleven and all those, it's
[33:44]
just a recommendation that-
[33:46]
I'm sure it was a function of the planning board when they approved the development
[33:49]
in the first instance because you're not going to purposely build that into your-
[33:52]
Right.
[33:52]
So my question is, if that one isn't legally
[33:56]
enforceable, should we do the same thing
[33:59]
in the future?
[34:00]
It's something we could definitely look into.
[34:03]
I think right over there, the way the curb cut is, it kind of makes traffic have to
[34:07]
go-
[34:07]
Take it away.
[34:08]
Sort of allow.
[34:09]
Doesn't mean you do it, though.
[34:10]
Yeah.
[34:12]
But yeah, it's absolutely something that we can also look into.
[34:15]
Thank you.
[34:18]
Any other questions from the board?
[34:21]
Mr. Chappelle?
[34:23]
No, thank you, sir.
[34:24]
Anything further from-
[34:26]
No, those are the three that we have.
[34:28]
Right. So I will entertain a motion to approve the following traffic parking
[34:32]
control request from the Fairhaven Police Department.
[34:34]
If anyone wants to hold on any of these three, just say hold, otherwise, we'll take
[34:38]
it as one motion. No parking sign, Ash Street at the intersection of Adams.
[34:43]
No left turn, Bridge Street exit of 240 Bridge.
[34:47]
Handicap parking only sign, 41 Head Street.
[34:51]
Do we have a motion?
[34:52]
So moved.
[34:53]
Second.
[34:53]
Motions are made and seconded. Any further discussion?
[34:56]
Hearing none, all those in favor?
[34:58]
Aye.
[34:58]
Any opposed? Passed unanimously. Thank you.
[35:02]
Thank you.
[35:02]
Thank you for your time.
[35:04]
Good night.
[35:05]
Up next, we have Consider Creation of Fairhaven Tourism Committee.
[35:08]
Resident Jennifer Cardoza contacted the Selectboard office
[35:12]
requesting the Selectboard consider establishing a Fairhaven Tourism Committee.
[35:16]
Included in your board materials is a detailed proposal provided by Ms.
[35:21]
Cardoza.
[35:25]
Upon receiving Ms. Cardoza's email expressing her interest in a
[35:28]
tourism committee, the town administrator shared that the Economic Development
[35:32]
Committee has shared their interest in providing some of the activities formerly
[35:36]
provided by the tourism department and suggested
[35:41]
she reach out to a member of the Economic Development Committee to discuss
[35:44]
collaborating efforts. The town administrator is unsure if the two parties
[35:48]
have spoken.
[35:50]
Okay. So we did not speak. I'm sorry. We did not have time to reach out to them.
[35:55]
We started school, and it's been really busy.
[35:58]
I brought this proposal forward because I saw that
[36:01]
Middleborough does this. They have a whole group that is
[36:05]
Discover Middleborough. Wareham also has a volunteer tourism group.
[36:10]
I understand we have EDC, but this would be a completely different
[36:14]
charge-
[36:16]
I feel that events are really important to the town.
[36:19]
Promoting the town is really important.
[36:21]
Not just big businesses like Big Y and all those things coming in, but other small
[36:24]
businesses and taking the time to promote their events.
[36:28]
I don't think EDC does that. I don't even think they have a Facebook page.
[36:32]
They do.
[36:34]
Correct me if I'm wrong. But Discover Middleborough and The Wareham, they do
[36:38]
almost similar what Fairhaven was doing. They do similar events.
[36:42]
It would be a
[36:44]
complete different charge. Economic development is more business growth and
[36:47]
development, attracting businesses and customers.
[36:50]
The tourism committee would be tourism and destination promotion, attracting
[36:53]
visitors, and showcasing what Fairhaven already has.
[36:56]
History, culture, attractions, bringing back the beach events,
[37:00]
old time holiday, things like that.
[37:03]
Questions?
[37:05]
Just to open it up,
[37:07]
one comment I have is that I know the EDC
[37:10]
is trying to continue some of the events that you listed.
[37:14]
Ribbon cuttings, old time holiday.
[37:16]
I actually received an email that-
[37:17]
I'm not saying that we would do ribbon cuttings. Like that should be EDC.
[37:21]
Okay.
[37:21]
Like that should definitely be economic development, because that's not even what
[37:25]
Discover... Discover Fairhaven was doing that, but they were doing it because they
[37:27]
had Fairhaven TV backing them and doing all that and promoting.
[37:31]
Sure.
[37:32]
I think
[37:33]
there is a bit of legwork to be done before approving this tonight.
[37:36]
I think because it's kind of up in the air right now who's
[37:40]
taking over some of the activities from what technically was Discover
[37:44]
Fairhaven and what fell under EDC or what shouldn't.
[37:47]
I also think this is a conversation that this board needs to have about this
[37:51]
is an opportunity to say, "Is this what we want our economic
[37:55]
development committee doing?" Do we want our economic development committee doing
[37:59]
Discover Fairhaven, Harbor Fest, food trucks, or do we want to
[38:02]
create a separate thing like this?
[38:04]
Because right now that would be duplicating efforts, and if we do want
[38:08]
to create this committee, what do we want
[38:12]
the economic development committee to focus on?
[38:14]
Because right now it's been very what Discover Fairhaven was
[38:18]
doing. Whether or not that's what it should be, that's what it is.
[38:22]
So that's sort of where I'm from. I'm going to open up to the board for questions
[38:25]
and comments. Mr. Sanders, if you have any?
[38:27]
Thank you.
[38:27]
Ms. DiCi-
[38:29]
So yeah. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
[38:32]
So, thanks for your idea.
[38:34]
So I'm the liaison to the EDC, and I haven't attended a meeting yet,
[38:38]
because it-
[38:39]
Because they met pre-
[38:40]
They
[38:41]
met one time right after I was appointed, and I was in New York.
[38:44]
So they haven't met,
[38:46]
until their meeting this week, actually.
[38:49]
But I did have a little bit of back and forth with Ms.
[38:52]
Melanson around sort of what was happening, in part because I'm also involved
[38:56]
in one of the other activities for old time.
[38:59]
And
[39:00]
it does sound like they have some activities that are already planned that
[39:04]
they're planning on moving forward with.
[39:06]
That seems to be where some of the energy is going.
[39:08]
I'm only getting this through email.
[39:10]
I haven't been a part of the meeting, so I would be really interested to sort of
[39:13]
see,
[39:14]
too, what they are thinking their charge is going
[39:18]
forward in terms of what Mr. Romano was just alluding to.
[39:22]
I also think that we did have some conversation with the City of New Bedford around
[39:26]
the sort of promotion of activities and what they're doing in their tourism.
[39:30]
We haven't really fleshed that out too much.
[39:32]
I think it would be useful or helpful for us to kind of understand what
[39:36]
sort of good collaborate, you know, what collaborative
[39:39]
activities could happen before we charge the group to do
[39:43]
things. I think it'd be sort of nice to solidify that, so then we can
[39:47]
come back to the table both with, you know, what does EDC really want to--
[39:52]
Should they really be focusing on where do we want them to go, as well as, and
[39:56]
then see where there's a void, really.
[39:59]
Because I think it sounds to me like that's sort of what you're thinking about.
[40:01]
You're like how do we fill a void of not having some of
[40:05]
the robust things that we're taking-
[40:07]
I mean, it's like the void of the events and the promotion, because now no one's
[40:10]
running the Discover Fairhaven Facebook page.
[40:13]
Right.
[40:13]
The website's
[40:15]
gone I think in December. So I mean, who's really going to take that
[40:18]
message?
[40:19]
Yeah, I think I'm sorry to interrupt you.
[40:21]
No.
[40:21]
I do think that's probably part of the conversation we
[40:24]
should have at EDC too. Like do they envision, are they envisioning that
[40:28]
they're going to continue with the Facebook page?
[40:30]
If so, how is that going to happen? You know, all of those kinds of things.
[40:33]
So,
[40:34]
that's kind of where I stand. I
[40:37]
do think that there's some more conversation that needs to happen before we-
[40:41]
Yeah. And just to clarify my comment, I am 100% not a
[40:45]
no.
[40:45]
Yeah, no.
[40:46]
I feel like I'm a not right now. Let's figure out that and then
[40:50]
bring this back. But Ms. Mello, do you have anything to add?
[40:53]
Yeah, I mean, thank you for bringing this forward.
[40:58]
I think we do need to have more discussion about what roles are.
[41:01]
I also have a concern
[41:04]
that even if it were a volunteer committee, if this is done under the
[41:08]
auspices of the Slack board, there are still going to be resources that are
[41:12]
required from the town to have this done.
[41:15]
You make mention of town administrator time, town council
[41:18]
time.
[41:20]
So I would be the last person to get in the way of a
[41:24]
volunteer group that wanted to get together to do this.
[41:27]
I'm not sure
[41:31]
with the information I have available to me right now that that needs to be
[41:34]
something that comes from Town Hall.
[41:37]
If that makes any sense. Those are my questions that I need
[41:40]
answered.
[41:41]
Ms. Lopes, before we recognize you, I'm going to recognize to see if Mr.
[41:44]
Chapella has anything. Ms. Lopes, did you have something that you wanted to add to
[41:48]
this?
[41:53]
Hi. Yes, I did. I just wanted to mention,
[41:57]
this is a great thought process and I understand
[42:01]
the complexity of possibly duplicating
[42:05]
some different things, and you don't necessarily want to.
[42:08]
I agree with what Pam was saying as well.
[42:11]
I think that Jen's idea and where the direction that could
[42:15]
be headed could be great for those lost areas without the
[42:19]
Office of Tourism now being there, or Discover Fairhaven.
[42:24]
I love it It's a fantastic idea, and it also
[42:28]
helps other groups come together throughout the
[42:31]
town.
[42:33]
Like local vendors who have local businesses, and promoting those
[42:37]
businesses within the town could also help as well.
[42:40]
We are seeing loss now without
[42:44]
Discover Fairhaven for promotions.
[42:47]
But we also think of it too, when you're coming together as
[42:50]
volunteers, this also gives different groups and opportunities to start
[42:54]
working together collaboratively, and
[42:58]
giving the opportunity for incorporating some sustainability and
[43:02]
reuse for different events throughout the town for holidays
[43:06]
and decorations and supplies, things of that nature.
[43:09]
So I understand Jen's idea, but I also
[43:13]
understand your aspect of things, and
[43:17]
waiting to see how EDC plans to go about for the future
[43:21]
of what they would pick up for the,
[43:24]
Discover Fairhaven aspect of things.
[43:27]
But I just wanted to give my input, and I thank you all for your time.
[43:30]
Before you mute, name and address for the record,
[43:34]
please.
[43:35]
Christina Lopes, 12 Bernie Street.
[43:37]
Thank you very much. Mr. Chipola, did you have anything in response?
[43:40]
Yes. Jen, awesome idea. Thank you.
[43:44]
I personally believe that economic development
[43:49]
is a completely different activity than tourism.
[43:53]
I look at economic development, and I would like to hear from them as you did
[43:57]
state, Mr. Chair, so we have a clear line of responsibilities
[44:01]
for economic development. And hopefully, if we can approve this tourism
[44:05]
committee,
[44:06]
that their focus is on the big picture items for the town of Fairhaven,
[44:11]
development, plazas, businesses, things like that.
[44:16]
Whereas tourism,
[44:18]
we're a coastal community,
[44:20]
attracting people to come into our beach, the festivals that
[44:24]
we do. So I agree with you, Mr. Chair, that if we
[44:27]
could ask both entities to really define
[44:31]
what their roles and responsibilities would be and their focus, I think it
[44:35]
would be very productive for the town so that you're not
[44:38]
overlapping one another's activities. But great idea, Jen.
[44:42]
Awesome. Thank you.
[44:44]
Something else I just want to throw out there too is we currently have a
[44:48]
Cable Advisory Committee that is struggling-
[44:52]
Cable what, sir?
[44:52]
Cable Advisory Committee, which struggles to get membership,
[44:56]
because of what its current charge is.
[44:58]
Cable Advisory has an aspect that needs to be the
[45:02]
negotiation of contracts with Comcast.
[45:04]
But it doesn't have to fall under the Cable Advisory, that's just sort of where it
[45:08]
has ended up. But
[45:10]
as someone who's been the liaison to that board for the last two years, I can tell
[45:13]
you a big thing of what they talk about is how to promote community events and how
[45:16]
to work within that. We almost have an opportunity to sort of restructure that
[45:20]
board too, to work together with this committee and say, "Okay, we have these
[45:24]
events. Now how do we get Fairhaven TV covering it?" So just part of a
[45:28]
maybe bigger conversation. Mr. Sanders?
[45:30]
So, yeah, thank you for your idea. I agree with what everybody said.
[45:33]
It'd be helpful though if you had said Middleborough
[45:37]
is very successful at this, and you know Wareham doing it too.
[45:42]
Given what you've heard from the board today, if you could, I'll give you a little
[45:45]
homework assignment. You don't have to do it if you don't want to, but could you
[45:49]
let us know how Middleborough works?
[45:51]
Do they have the same dynamic between economic development and
[45:54]
tourism? Same thing with Wareham. That'd be helpful.
[45:57]
Yeah. Completely, it's separate.
[45:59]
It's two-
[45:59]
So they have both
[46:00]
... completely separate charges. They have both.
[46:01]
Okay.
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Middleborough is super successful.
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Their Facebook page has
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thousands of followers, and they promote every event, and they're
[46:09]
literally a volunteer group that promote events, put out events.
[46:14]
I didn't look into Wareham too much, but Middleborough is huge.
[46:17]
Right. That's good context. Thank you. Good question.
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So with that being said, would you like us to move forward with any sort of motion
[46:24]
tonight, or would you agree that should we-- Something to add themselves?
[46:28]
Yeah, I think,
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so to Mr. Sanders' point, I think it would be, it would
[46:33]
almost be helpful to understand how they've separated the charge too, because
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there's so much overlap there. There appears to be.
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Like I said, I haven't been to a meeting, so I'm just basing off what I've seen on
[46:43]
TV and had communication on. So I think I'd feel more
[46:47]
comfortable sort of understanding the dynamic and then helping
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to determine that charge. I don't disagree with you that there should be a
[46:55]
more designated focus on the bigger development pieces.
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But how do we get there before we kind of move to another
[47:03]
committee that could have overlap and then confusion. That's my feeling.
[47:06]
I think it's something we could consider going forward once we do that.
[47:11]
Would you like us to table, or would you like us to move forward without-
[47:14]
You can table it. I was just bringing an idea to everyone.
[47:17]
I just wanted to put it out there.
[47:18]
So, yep. Let's not set a deadline, so that way we can work through these
[47:21]
conversations. Let's table it sort of
[47:25]
indefinitely, so that way the board can bring it back up once we sort of work
[47:28]
through with the economic development committee to drive a different comment.
[47:32]
That's a different comment.
[47:33]
Okay.
[47:33]
I just wanted to just ask, would you be willing to come back when we're ready to
[47:36]
take this up once we've had more conversations?
[47:39]
Yeah.
[47:39]
Please.
[47:39]
Okay, awesome. Yeah.
[47:40]
Thank you.
[47:40]
Okay.
[47:41]
All right, so do we have a motion to table indefinitely?
[47:44]
So moved.
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Second.
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Motions are made and seconded.
[47:47]
Just to table.
[47:49]
Okay, it's a motion to table.
[47:51]
Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye.
[47:55]
Any opposed? Thank you so much for your time. We'll definitely be in touch.
[47:58]
Thank you.
[47:58]
Thanks. Thank you.
[47:59]
Thank you, Jen.
[48:00]
All right, next we have use of auditorium request.
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Millicent Library, October 22nd, 2026 for an author talk
[48:07]
event.
[48:08]
The Millicent Library is seeking the board's approval for the use of the town hall
[48:11]
auditorium on October 22nd, 2026 for an author
[48:15]
talk. Details of the author and the forthcoming
[48:18]
details on the author are forthcoming, which they are on your blotter tonight.
[48:22]
A flyer with additional details was provided to the office today on the
[48:26]
board's blotter. Do we have anyone here online to discuss this
[48:29]
event?
[48:32]
I don't believe so. Do we have any questions from the board?
[48:35]
This is a
[48:36]
similar style event that has been hosted in the past.
[48:40]
Any questions from the board?
[48:44]
No? All right. Hearing none, I will entertain a motion to approve the
[48:48]
use of Town Hall Auditorium by the Millicent Library on October
[48:51]
22nd, 2026, contingent upon payment of the custodian
[48:56]
and audiovisual fees in accordance with the town's policy as outlined in the
[48:59]
application.
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So moved.
[49:01]
Second.
[49:01]
Motion's been made and seconded. Any further discussion?
[49:04]
Hearing none, all those in favor?
[49:06]
Aye.
[49:07]
Aye. Opposed? Passes unanimously.
[49:09]
Before we go into executive session, we have review of open volunteer
[49:12]
opportunities. As part of the board's effort to highlight volunteer
[49:16]
opportunities, the board's packet contains a list of recent
[49:19]
resignations and openings that appear on the Volunteer
[49:22]
Opportunities page of the website.
[49:25]
The town's website,
[49:27]
as of the morning of the agenda as posted, is listed as part of the packet.
[49:31]
The list may change as openings are identified.
[49:34]
Interested applicants should review the page and can contact the town
[49:38]
administrator's office with any questions.
[49:40]
Resignations since last meeting, we have a Cultural Council, two members, Catherine
[49:44]
Tebbs and Donna Cicerone. Probably butchering that, I
[49:47]
apologize. I just want to read through really quickly that we are accepting
[49:51]
applications for all positions. Special Bylaw Review Committee, open
[49:55]
until filled, one member through term completion.
[49:58]
Belonging Committee, one member, open until filled.
[50:01]
Board of Assessors has been filled tonight.
[50:04]
So that has been-
[50:05]
That has been filled, yep.
[50:06]
Okay, thank you.
[50:08]
Table Advisory Committee, two members, open until filled.
[50:11]
Cultural Council, two members, three-year term, open until filled.
[50:15]
Historic Commission, associate members not to exceed number of full members, open
[50:19]
until filled. Lagoa Friendship Pact Committee, one member, open
[50:23]
until filled, and Livable Streets Committee, unlimited availability, open
[50:27]
until filled. I also would like to indicate for the public tonight that
[50:31]
we said at our last meeting of October
[50:35]
10th that we would be doing a boarding committee reappointment night.
[50:39]
That has been finally, definitely scheduled for
[50:42]
October 14th,
[50:45]
2026 at 6:00 PM. That is the Wednesday following
[50:49]
our Tuesday night meeting. That night has changed if you are
[50:53]
an applicant, so you will be getting notified.
[50:56]
We will also be extending the application period by one week.
[51:00]
Any members of the public who are listening,
[51:04]
any position that had ended
[51:08]
in May that we have extended through the September date,
[51:12]
that is considered an open position.
[51:14]
Members who have that seat may reapply.
[51:17]
Members
[51:19]
of the public who would like to apply can apply for any of those open seats and
[51:22]
will be considered that evening.
[51:25]
If a member who is up for reappointment does not reapply,
[51:29]
they've been given over a month's notice to do so.
[51:32]
So if we do not receive it by the October date, we will assume that that
[51:36]
person is no longer interested in reapplying.
[51:39]
They
[51:40]
will be receiving up to two to three emails by the time the application
[51:44]
period closes. So all applicants will have an opportunity to reapply. Ms. Mellor?
[51:49]
I had a question of the Historical Commission about whether we were going
[51:53]
to organize it by time so people would know when to show up,
[51:57]
so that someone doesn't come from the beginning of the meeting and has to sit there
[52:00]
for two and a half hours.
[52:01]
So how we were doing it was alphabetical order of committee.
[52:05]
Are we going to announce that?
[52:07]
That's how we announced it to all the applicants who have-
[52:10]
Oh, okay
[52:10]
... applied. We're going in alphabetical order of how it will appear.
[52:14]
So, assessors A, B, C, down the line.
[52:17]
Unfortunately,
[52:20]
we're making a recommendation of how long we think it may take based on how
[52:24]
many applicants we receive, but that also depends on if all the applicants show
[52:28]
up
[52:30]
and how quickly some of the conversation goes.
[52:33]
So we're not saying at 6:15-
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No.
[52:35]
Boom. Okay.
[52:36]
No.
[52:36]
Thank you.
[52:37]
It is going to go in alphabetical order.
[52:38]
We start at 6:00 PM?
[52:40]
That'll be at 6:00 PM.
[52:41]
Thank you.
[52:41]
Yep.
[52:43]
Further questions from the board regarding open positions?
[52:46]
All right. Hearing none,
[52:49]
we have
[52:50]
executive session.
[52:53]
I will entertain a motion to enter into executive session pursuant to
[52:57]
General Law Chapter 30A, subsection 21A3, to
[53:01]
discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining or litigation if an
[53:05]
open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the bargaining and
[53:09]
litigating position of the public body, and the chair so declares,
[53:13]
AFSCME Highway and Atlas Tech, and to
[53:17]
return to open session. Do we have a motion?
[53:21]
Just to be clear, we're just doing item D, we're not doing item K,
[53:25]
because we have two executive-
[53:26]
Correct. We'll go back and do it separately.
[53:27]
Okay. So moved.
[53:28]
Second.
[53:29]
Motion's been made and seconded. Any further discussion?
[53:32]
Hearing none, I'll call for a roll call vote. Mr. Sanders?
[53:34]
Newtown moves in favor.
[53:35]
I think Peter, yes.
[53:37]
Ms. Mellor?
[53:37]
Madelyn Mellor, aye.
[53:38]
Mr. Ed Chappel, yes.
[53:39]
Andrew Romano, aye. 6:51, we are now in executive session.
[1:44:47]
We're going to move into E, action discussion items.
[1:44:49]
Up first, we have consider amendment to collective bargaining agreement for the
[1:44:53]
American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees
[1:44:56]
Highway, AFSCME. Public Works Director Vinnie Furtado
[1:45:00]
will present amendments to the collective bargaining agreement included in our
[1:45:05]
board and material packets is the supporting information on the
[1:45:09]
proposed amendments. Mr. Furtado.
[1:45:13]
Good evening.
[1:45:15]
Good evening, everybody.
[1:45:17]
So as provided in everyone's packet, I'm
[1:45:21]
here on behalf of the Board of Public Works to request
[1:45:25]
the reclassification of our garage
[1:45:28]
mechanic positions from that of a grade seven
[1:45:33]
to that of a grade nine.
[1:45:36]
It wouldn't happen as a rite of passage for
[1:45:40]
everybody. There would have to be X number of years
[1:45:44]
that would have to be satisfied and some
[1:45:49]
certifications and whatnot that would have to be achieved.
[1:45:53]
But once that level of proficiency was
[1:45:56]
achieved, then we're looking for the
[1:45:59]
capabilities to promote the staff,
[1:46:03]
give them a growth opportunity,
[1:46:07]
because nowadays, like I mentioned
[1:46:10]
to the board,
[1:46:12]
when it comes to vehicle repair,
[1:46:15]
you have to be more than someone who can turn a wrench.
[1:46:19]
You have to have, with the modernization of the vehicles,
[1:46:23]
you need to have the prowess to be
[1:46:27]
technologically savvy for the computer systems that are
[1:46:30]
located therein. So, as part of
[1:46:35]
what has been delegated to the Selectboard,
[1:46:39]
as far as
[1:46:42]
signing off on what's ultimately negotiated
[1:46:46]
by the Board of Public Works, I'm asking since
[1:46:50]
the negotiation won't happen until a couple of years from now, give or
[1:46:54]
take the beginning of '28, and the sign
[1:46:58]
off,
[1:46:59]
if the board so approved, wouldn't occur until two
[1:47:03]
years from now. Rather than wait the two years, I'm
[1:47:06]
hoping that the board will approve the request that
[1:47:11]
the Board of Public Works made via the town administrator,
[1:47:15]
that you would sign off that if any of our employees
[1:47:19]
achieved the required
[1:47:22]
certifications and capabilities to work on the
[1:47:26]
computers, that there would be a growth opportunity within the
[1:47:30]
department. Which again,
[1:47:32]
I firmly believe, and the numbers will demonstrate
[1:47:36]
that for a small raise, the
[1:47:40]
town's going to save thousands of dollars in what would be
[1:47:44]
funneled out to
[1:47:46]
private concern. Right now,
[1:47:49]
every vehicle that we repair in town, they don't pay for
[1:47:53]
labor. Obviously, the labor is handled by the staff that we have in
[1:47:57]
the
[1:47:58]
highway department, the vehicle repair staff.
[1:48:01]
And the gentlemen that we have, the whole crew, but especially the
[1:48:05]
gentleman that we have heading up the garage, he's really a crackerjack
[1:48:09]
with repairs and with the
[1:48:14]
computer stuff. So we're really...
[1:48:17]
Key DAU folks have asked us to try to look at ways
[1:48:21]
we can save money, that we're doing this right now,
[1:48:24]
and really with a small shift,
[1:48:29]
it's a net savings for the town.
[1:48:32]
Questions from the board?
[1:48:33]
So, yeah.
[1:48:36]
I'll consider this direct examination questions, which are the easiest ones to
[1:48:39]
answer.
[1:48:41]
Could you explain for the people
[1:48:45]
watching
[1:48:46]
that although it's the Board of Public Works that's coming in front of us asking
[1:48:50]
for this authority to create the position with inside the Board of Public Works,
[1:48:55]
is it true that all of the
[1:48:58]
town's
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automobiles or vehicles
[1:49:02]
are serviced or repaired by the Board of Public Works?
[1:49:06]
Maybe that's a bad question. The police cruisers, the fire
[1:49:10]
trucks, the ambulances-
[1:49:11]
Some schools
[1:49:12]
... all of those automobiles would
[1:49:16]
be serviced by these-
[1:49:17]
If they're serviced-
[1:49:18]
... positions
[1:49:19]
... if, yes.
[1:49:21]
And the alternative is if we don't have someone to service these,
[1:49:25]
what I'll say, more technologically advanced vehicles, we would have to
[1:49:29]
hire an outside vendor to service those
[1:49:33]
correctly.
[1:49:34]
Right. Whereas you would pay the parts and the labor, and the labor
[1:49:38]
would be a lot more than the-
[1:49:40]
Well, it's going to be much-
[1:49:41]
... for $3 that-
[1:49:43]
Based upon training and experience over the last 40 years, do you think it would be
[1:49:47]
a net savings to the town?
[1:49:48]
Yes, I do.
[1:49:49]
Thank you.
[1:49:50]
And that's not me just trying to sell it.
[1:49:52]
I believe you.
[1:49:53]
I truly believe that.
[1:49:55]
Thank you.
[1:49:55]
Other questions from the board?
[1:49:58]
All right. Hearing none, I will entertain a motion to approve
[1:50:02]
establishing a senior mechanic position to be placed grade
[1:50:05]
nine of the existing wage scale Further, to create a senior
[1:50:09]
working foreman position to be placed in grade 10 of the existing
[1:50:13]
wage scale.
[1:50:14]
So moved.
[1:50:14]
Second.
[1:50:15]
Motions are made and seconded. Any further discussion?
[1:50:18]
Hearing none, all those in favor?
[1:50:20]
Aye.
[1:50:20]
Aye. Opposed? Carries unanimously.
[1:50:22]
Thank you, everybody who-
[1:50:23]
Good night.
[1:50:23]
I saw a couple of things later on the agenda, so-
[1:50:26]
More than you want.
[1:50:28]
All right.
[1:50:37]
All right, up next.
[1:50:39]
Mr.
[1:50:41]
Picado, what item are you sticking around for?
[1:50:47]
Here for the agenda.
[1:50:48]
This would be a draft local aid letter holding a regional meeting, wastewater
[1:50:52]
issues. Is that you?
[1:50:53]
Sure.
[1:50:53]
Thank you.
[1:50:55]
I'd like to entertain a motion to take item E3 out of order.
[1:50:58]
Ooh.
[1:50:59]
So second.
[1:50:59]
Motions were made and seconded. Any further discussion? Hearing none, aye.
[1:51:04]
Aye.
[1:51:04]
Aye.
[1:51:04]
Opposed? Passes unanimously. Mr. Picado, the floor is yours.
[1:51:08]
We are going to-
[1:51:09]
Well, I didn't want to, since it said wastewater-
[1:51:12]
Yeah.
[1:51:12]
You know, I didn't want to leave-
[1:51:15]
Yeah, so let me-
[1:51:15]
In case you had any questions about it.
[1:51:17]
Yeah. So we're going to enter into discussion on holding a regional meeting to
[1:51:20]
discuss solutions to wastewater issues impacting Fairhaven and other South
[1:51:24]
Coast communities. Member Rick Chipillo and Town Administrator Hickey met with
[1:51:28]
two members of the New Bedford Public Works to discuss ongoing and future
[1:51:32]
wastewater concerns. Member Chipillo is seeking board support
[1:51:36]
to contact Representative Silvia and Senator Montigny's offices
[1:51:40]
to organize a meeting of elected and appointed officials on the South
[1:51:44]
Coast to discuss seeking federal aid to address the
[1:51:47]
expected increase in costs to treat and dispose of wastewater.
[1:51:51]
So I guess I'll turn it over to you first.
[1:51:52]
I think that's everything we asked for. That's the description.
[1:51:56]
We met last week with
[1:51:59]
the City of New Bedford, excuse me.
[1:52:03]
We started with CSO
[1:52:06]
discharge. We ended up with wastewater costs
[1:52:11]
to
[1:52:13]
dispose of the variety of types of wastewater.
[1:52:18]
Cake.
[1:52:19]
Cake remnants.
[1:52:21]
Not from Holiday Bakery, though.
[1:52:22]
And it was a really good conversation
[1:52:26]
about the fact that the opportunities for
[1:52:30]
us to dispose of this wastewater waste
[1:52:34]
is potentially going to be narrowed and become much
[1:52:38]
more expensive.
[1:52:39]
So-
[1:52:39]
For the town of Fairhaven to get rid of?
[1:52:41]
Both.
[1:52:42]
Okay.
[1:52:42]
Every community that operates a wastewater
[1:52:46]
plant is going to potentially face significant increases in the
[1:52:50]
cost of disposing of waste
[1:52:53]
from the wastewater plant.
[1:52:55]
So we,
[1:52:58]
during our conversation, suggested to the City of New Bedford, does
[1:53:02]
it make any sense? Would they be willing to at least start a
[1:53:05]
conversation with other South Coast
[1:53:09]
communities to see if we can try to solve that problem as a-
[1:53:11]
To regionalize them?
[1:53:13]
And they
[1:53:15]
seemed interested. Again, just like I'm not, they weren't the
[1:53:18]
decision-makers, but they, I think, are willing
[1:53:22]
to support at least exploring
[1:53:26]
the opportunities to find a solution.
[1:53:28]
And so what
[1:53:30]
I think we're asking for this evening from the board is
[1:53:34]
to allow,
[1:53:37]
ultimately, representatives from this board, probably Mr.
[1:53:40]
Picado, a member or two of the Board of Public Works, and
[1:53:44]
potentially me to
[1:53:46]
meet with other South Coast communities
[1:53:49]
to brainstorm to see if there's a way that we can work
[1:53:53]
with either our local or even our state or federal government
[1:53:58]
to provide some financial assistance to
[1:54:04]
ultimately reduce the cost of disposal for South
[1:54:07]
Coast communities. But didn't want to do that without coming to this board
[1:54:11]
first and
[1:54:13]
making you aware of what occurred last week and what
[1:54:17]
direction we'd like to at least go
[1:54:21]
moving forward. Through you, Mr. Chair, can I just give
[1:54:25]
you some...
[1:54:25]
Yes.
[1:54:26]
So right now, the Town of Fairhaven,
[1:54:29]
City of New Bedford too, they have a contract with Synagro.
[1:54:34]
Synagro
[1:54:35]
are the folks who transport our
[1:54:38]
waste to an incinerator in Woonsocket, Rhode
[1:54:42]
Island,
[1:54:43]
and we pay the transportation over there.
[1:54:47]
And based on the level of
[1:54:51]
dryness, if you will, that we can
[1:54:55]
achieve,
[1:54:57]
there's a percent solids calculation,
[1:55:00]
and the drier, the easier it is to incinerate than if it
[1:55:04]
were wet.
[1:55:06]
Right.
[1:55:07]
But this-
[1:55:07]
No.
[1:55:08]
It's true. But the balance is
[1:55:11]
when
[1:55:13]
the material
[1:55:15]
is taken away, here in New Bedford and everywhere that has a
[1:55:18]
contract with Synagro, it goes in an enclosed
[1:55:22]
tanker, like those 9,000-gallon gas tankers.
[1:55:26]
So it has to be wet enough to be able to pump, because you're not shoveling it
[1:55:30]
into the back of a truck. So it has to be wet enough to be
[1:55:33]
pumped into the tanker and
[1:55:37]
then brought to Woonsocket. So-
[1:55:41]
Woonsocket may be going away, which-
[1:55:43]
That is the whole thing
[1:55:45]
... cause additional transportation costs, which what we would like to
[1:55:48]
explore, keeping-
[1:55:51]
Right
[1:55:51]
... disposal more in the region.
[1:55:54]
There is talk that Woonsocket is no longer
[1:55:58]
going to be processing the waste
[1:56:01]
in 2029. The coach may turn into
[1:56:05]
a pumpkin in 2029. So it could be sooner than that.
[1:56:09]
Pumpkin. Yes. Did you have anything to add? I'm sorry.
[1:56:13]
No, so because of that,
[1:56:16]
there are other options. There's Blackstone, there's
[1:56:21]
Lowell, there's Cranston, but you'd have
[1:56:25]
to jockey for position. So it's a great idea, honestly, to
[1:56:29]
see if we can go collectively elsewhere,
[1:56:33]
especially
[1:56:35]
joining with New Bedford, because we give
[1:56:39]
about 10
[1:56:42]
trucks per week, give or take, to Synagro.
[1:56:45]
About two a day, sometimes a little more, whereas New Bedford's
[1:56:49]
probably eight, nine, 10 a day-
[1:56:51]
Mm
[1:56:52]
... with the amount of volume. So they would be the
[1:56:55]
lead dog. And whatever ultimately would
[1:56:59]
happen,
[1:57:01]
if we joined with them, they would have more saying power, if you
[1:57:05]
will, because they'd be a bigger customer.
[1:57:08]
We are just 25 million gallons a day.
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We're three million gallons a day, not that kind.
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Mr. Trapani, did they cover it or do you have anything to add?
[1:57:16]
Yes, I do.
[1:57:18]
Thank you, Mr. Furtado, as always.
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Mr. Hickey, thank you for allowing me to attend the meeting over in New Bedford
[1:57:25]
this past-
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Happy to have you.
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We first went there, Mr. Furtado, and to the board to discuss
[1:57:31]
a letter that we were contemplating sending out to EPA
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to get their assist
[1:57:38]
in pushing New Bedford to resolve their discharge during rain
[1:57:41]
events.
[1:57:43]
We met with Mr. Pont, and he's an absolute
[1:57:46]
gentleman. And he brought up to us in the meeting,
[1:57:51]
residents of Bedford are heavily taxed now for their upgrades to their system.
[1:57:58]
They're doing as much as they can with the EPA orders that they have in
[1:58:02]
place.
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And Mr. Pont, and please correct me, Mr.
[1:58:06]
Hickey, I'm looking at my notes from the meeting.
[1:58:08]
He really referenced their discharge, Mr.
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Furtado, as impacting the shellfish.
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And
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he brought up that the regulations for shellfishing had changed,
[1:58:20]
making it more stringent.
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And I said, "Okay, I understand that."
[1:58:25]
I said very respectfully, I said,
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"In the town of Fairhaven, we have invested some $70 million
[1:58:32]
for our nitrogen compliance,
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plus a new plant."
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I said,
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"In the city of New Bedford," I said, "Your plant
[1:58:43]
does need upgrades because it has no nitrogen capability."
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And I referenced in the month of July that you have
[1:58:51]
discharged approximately 130 million gallons of waste.
[1:58:56]
His focus was really not on the dumping of that waste,
[1:59:00]
but really on the impact to shellfishing.
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And my end is both on the shellfishing, but what dumping
[1:59:07]
that waste, the human waste, the chemicals, et cetera,
[1:59:10]
plus the nitrogen into the bay does.
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And I certainly didn't want to be rude,
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Mr. Hickey, because he's a gentleman.
[1:59:21]
I could see in his face that he was doing absolutely the best he
[1:59:25]
could. He's a good guy. He has limited amount of money for
[1:59:29]
110,000 population city.
[1:59:33]
So,
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to this board,
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I would not propose sending the letter that I had drafted.
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I think it would be
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antagonistic,
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and I don't think it would serve any purpose.
[1:59:51]
I really think that if this board, and perhaps Mr.
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Saunders and Ms. Keicher, with your contacts,
[1:59:59]
if we could try to... What's the expression?
[2:00:02]
You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.
[2:00:06]
Perhaps if we could have some meetings with the city of New Bedford
[2:00:10]
to get their focus more off of the issue of, well, they
[2:00:13]
changed the regulation on shellfishing, which is making it now more apparent that
[2:00:17]
every time it rains, they shut down the shellfishing beds.
[2:00:21]
To recognize that it's really not healthy
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to the whole Buzzards Bay community, from Wareham to Westport,
[2:00:30]
to allow the plant to continue the way it is.
[2:00:33]
And perhaps that's a conversation with
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your contact with the mayor, because the mayor has now appointed to talk about
[2:00:40]
this.
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I referenced a meeting that Mr. Pont was in to Mr.
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Hickey when we were there, that
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Mr. Rasmussen from Buzzards Bay Coalition facilitated a meeting,
[2:00:52]
Mr. Furtado, about a year and a half ago, two years.
[2:00:55]
In which they said the solution for a holding tank, upgrade to that plant,
[2:01:00]
because the residents there have issues with smell, et cetera.
[2:01:03]
It's a billion too.
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And Mr. Pont says, "Brett, we don't have that money." And
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I respect that. The residents, the taxpayers in New
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Bedford don't have that money.
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But the residents along the South Coast do not.
[2:01:19]
So at that meeting,
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Mr. Saunders, and to the board,
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we did talk about, and Mr. Montigny, Senator Montigny,
[2:01:28]
Representative Silvia,
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Mr. Markey, Representative Markey, had talked about
[2:01:33]
funding, maybe setting up an MWRA, something on a
[2:01:37]
more regional or federal basis to really try to
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help the biggest
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city on the South Coast that has a very antiquated wastewater treatment
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plant. So on the issue of the agenda tonight,
[2:01:52]
I do not want to send that letter out. I think it would be...
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I don't think it would serve any purpose.
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I think it would just aggravate the situation.
[2:02:01]
That I really think if we could do some brainstorming with Mr. Hickey and Mr.
[2:02:05]
Furtado and this board to try to find
[2:02:08]
some way to get that city and our elected
[2:02:12]
officials to try to resolve that problem, I think that's the best way to do it.
[2:02:17]
To go on just to further the conversation, it did come up with the cake,
[2:02:21]
Mr. Potato,
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and
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everybody talking about that capability to burn the waste from the treatment
[2:02:29]
plant and our collaboration. And then he also did share that that
[2:02:32]
wastewater treatment plant, the City of New Bedford has outsourced in
[2:02:36]
terms of their ability to find that they thought
[2:02:40]
that was the better way to do it.
[2:02:41]
Well, they thought they-
[2:02:43]
Really quickly, I'm sorry. Before you respond, I just want to check.
[2:02:47]
I feel like we're going down a good path, but a path that's a little off what we're
[2:02:50]
talking about tonight.
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I apologize.
[2:02:52]
So specifically, we're talking about discussion of holding a regional
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meeting to discuss these solutions.
[2:02:58]
Yes.
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Are there any questions from members of the board against moving that forward or
[2:03:02]
in favor of moving that forward, Mr. Sanders?
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No, I'm going to stay neutral.
[2:03:06]
I think the only question that I have, and I agree-
[2:03:08]
I have a question, but you go ahead.
[2:03:10]
No. No, go ahead, Mr. Sanders. Go ahead.
[2:03:11]
No, you finish. You finish.
[2:03:13]
I was just curious because I
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thought a committee had been put together,
[2:03:20]
and that was maybe that Buzzards Bay meeting, that Buzzards Bay Coalition
[2:03:23]
facilitated meeting. I thought there had been a committee that-
[2:03:27]
Mm
[2:03:27]
... came together but never actually met.
[2:03:30]
Good point, Ms. Kuechle. It was an excellent meeting that
[2:03:35]
Mr. Rasmussen put together.
[2:03:38]
It was the first and the last meeting.
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Okay.
[2:03:40]
And I think that if that meeting could maybe happen again
[2:03:45]
to say, "Hey, how can we..." Because there was people in attendance from Westport
[2:03:48]
to Wareham.
[2:03:49]
Yeah.
[2:03:50]
So nothing really happened from it.
[2:03:52]
What you're referring to is, yes, we have, it's called the Buzzards Bay
[2:03:55]
Water Quality Working Group. Ms. Mello is the current liaison to that,
[2:03:59]
but I don't believe that has been a committee that has been meeting.
[2:04:02]
Has not met since I've been on the board.
[2:04:04]
Okay. All right.
[2:04:06]
So that is something that we have. I don't know if that's something we consider
[2:04:09]
disbanding and going this route instead. It sounds like this may be more effective.
[2:04:13]
I mean, my-
[2:04:14]
But Ms. Kuechle, back to you.
[2:04:14]
Yeah. My belief is that working together
[2:04:18]
with the city and the other communities is the best route to go.
[2:04:22]
I've felt that-
[2:04:22]
Bill
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... from the beginning.
[2:04:23]
Mm-hmm.
[2:04:23]
So I think it's, I'm encouraged to hear that we're headed down that
[2:04:27]
road and that this meeting took place and Mr.
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Pont was open and willing to discuss it.
[2:04:32]
So I think, based on that, I think that's probably the
[2:04:38]
way that we're going to get to some kind of help New Bedford get to some kind of
[2:04:41]
solution, I think.
[2:04:42]
Mr. Sanders, your question?
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Yeah. Mine wasn't a question, it was more of an observation.
[2:04:46]
So,
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yeah. I think we should talk with New Bedford.
[2:04:50]
Yes.
[2:04:50]
But we also need to invite, if Fairhaven's going to do it, we have to invite
[2:04:53]
Mattapoisett-
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Mm
[2:04:54]
... because we have an intermunicipal agreement with Mattapoisett.
[2:04:57]
We take their waste here. My question to you, if you could, please, if you know the
[2:05:00]
answer, just tell the board, where does Acushnet's waste go?
[2:05:04]
I believe Acushnet waste goes to New Bedford. Where does Dartmouth's waste go?
[2:05:07]
I know it stays in Dartmouth. Where does Westport's waste go?
[2:05:10]
Just so that we can understand the context of how many
[2:05:14]
municipalities might be involved in these discussions.
[2:05:17]
Well, Acushnet goes to, those folks who have sewage is tied
[2:05:21]
into
[2:05:23]
New Bedford.
[2:05:24]
Dartmouth is either septic systems or they have their
[2:05:28]
own treatment plant, so it would go there.
[2:05:31]
Mattapoisett, those folks who are tied into the sewer all
[2:05:35]
come our way,
[2:05:37]
about 550,000 gallons, give or take.
[2:05:41]
But yeah.
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So thank you for that. But my other...
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I'll give you another,
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a piece of history. So again, when
[2:05:51]
I was going through law school, I worked in the Massachusetts State Senate in
[2:05:55]
1988,
[2:05:56]
1989, 1990. The City of New Bedford
[2:06:00]
had some pretty hellacious
[2:06:03]
enforcement orders against them from the EPA, and what that
[2:06:06]
resulted was the City of New Bedford basically said, "We don't have the money,"
[2:06:10]
just like Jamie Pont is saying today, and I agree with you, Jamie Pont is a great
[2:06:14]
guy.
[2:06:14]
Great guy.
[2:06:15]
All right? But the EPA finally said, "Look,
[2:06:18]
that's all well and good, but we're going to force you to make the money,
[2:06:22]
to find the money, or make the politically tough decision."
[2:06:26]
And what they did and what DEP did was they took away New Bedford's general
[2:06:30]
permit to issue sewer connections with inside
[2:06:34]
the city. Not a sewer extension, but a sewer connection. All right?
[2:06:37]
There was a general permit, they took that away, and in essence what that did was
[2:06:40]
that shut down-
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Oh
[2:06:41]
... the ability, exactly. You could not issue any new building permits in the City
[2:06:45]
of New Bedford. And as John Bullard was the mayor at the time, he
[2:06:49]
made the very, very politically tough decision, which was in the
[2:06:53]
right interest of the City of New Bedford.
[2:06:56]
And if you asked him this today, he would tell you this, but it cost him the
[2:06:59]
election.
[2:07:00]
Mm-hmm.
[2:07:00]
He got beat as the thing. So that's probably, that is the, well,
[2:07:04]
I know that's the political quagmire that
[2:07:08]
we're not going to face. The City of New Bedford's elected officials will face
[2:07:12]
that. I'm just putting it out there-
[2:07:13]
Thank you
[2:07:13]
... because that is the message we have to manage.
[2:07:16]
I did not know that, sir.
[2:07:17]
We have to manage.
[2:07:19]
Ms. Mello, did you have a question?
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Yeah. Well, I just, to respond-
[2:07:22]
There are tools
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... that's why the current mayor doesn't want to talk about it at the moment.
[2:07:26]
Mm-hmm.
[2:07:27]
But I
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agree with Ms. Kuechle as far as this approach I'm much happier with
[2:07:33]
than sending threatening letters.
[2:07:35]
I think this
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will yield more progress. My question, and
[2:07:41]
I've heard this bandied about, and maybe this was just because
[2:07:44]
it's catchy, but when you talk about regional, you just talked about a few
[2:07:48]
towns, but are we still talking Wareham to Westport or are we tightening
[2:07:52]
that up a little bit?
[2:07:53]
We only have so much capacity, too.
[2:07:56]
We could take a
[2:07:59]
south end of Acushnet, if you will, because-
[2:08:02]
I'm talking about this regional meeting-
[2:08:04]
Oh
[2:08:05]
... is what I'm talking about. So I don't know if that question is for you or if
[2:08:08]
it's for Mr. Tripillo.
[2:08:11]
I think there's two separate issues.
[2:08:14]
First, the issue on the waste removal,
[2:08:18]
I think that's separate from this conversation on the CSO discharge-
[2:08:22]
Yeah
[2:08:22]
... in New Bedford.
[2:08:24]
That issue, for me, is an issue that we need to
[2:08:28]
bring in our colleagues from Wareham to Westport.
[2:08:31]
They were at that meeting that Buzzards Bay
[2:08:35]
had some year and a half, two years ago, because the water impacts the
[2:08:39]
whole South Coast community, so I would bring them in.
[2:08:41]
I'd bring in Falmouth and Bourne.
[2:08:43]
Thank you.
[2:08:44]
Because they're on the east side of Buzzards Bay.
[2:08:46]
Correct.
[2:08:47]
Are they not?
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You're right, Mr. Saunders. So-
[2:08:49]
Can I follow up?
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Yeah.
[2:08:51]
So as far as the wastewater, which is what you started talking about, which is
[2:08:54]
separate from the CSO,
[2:08:56]
that's where you're saying that there are particular communities that would be
[2:08:59]
involved in this conversation.
[2:09:00]
I'm talking about our plant. What he's talking about was New
[2:09:04]
Bedford's CSOs and their wastewater plant.
[2:09:10]
I guess I'm going to-
[2:09:11]
What Mr. Furtado-- There was two different conversations
[2:09:15]
with Mr. Ponte, and the primary one was the CSO.
[2:09:20]
But then we had a nice conversation.
[2:09:22]
He's a great guy, and he was having an open conversation with our
[2:09:26]
town administrator to say, "Mr. Hickey, something else that you need
[2:09:30]
to be thinking of with Mr. Furtado," because he thought highly of
[2:09:33]
Vinnie, "is
[2:09:36]
we don't know what we're going to be able to do with our waste," and it's referred
[2:09:40]
to as a cake,
[2:09:42]
with how that's transported out of the town.
[2:09:44]
So, that was the secondary issue that Mr.
[2:09:48]
Hickey apprised us on, that that's going to come down the road as a
[2:09:51]
cost.
[2:09:52]
Can I ask a quick-
[2:09:53]
Yes, sir.
[2:09:53]
Really quick. Mr. Trapillo,
[2:09:56]
what's being proposed tonight, tell me if this covers, to approve Selectboard
[2:10:00]
Member Trapillo to contact Senator Montigny and Representative
[2:10:03]
Silvia, seeking their assistance to set a meeting of South Coast elected and
[2:10:07]
appointed officials to discuss working together to address the cost to
[2:10:11]
dispose of wastewater.
[2:10:12]
That is-
[2:10:12]
Do you feel that covers it?
[2:10:13]
Yes, sir.
[2:10:14]
Okay. So, did you have something to add, or-
[2:10:16]
No, that's fine. I don't want to disagree with Vinnie.
[2:10:19]
I think
[2:10:20]
there's two issues, and the CSO, I think, was kind of pushed to the side a little
[2:10:24]
bit.
[2:10:24]
Yes.
[2:10:26]
I think what we're trying to find is a solution, a more economical
[2:10:30]
solution, to properly dispose of-
[2:10:33]
The waste
[2:10:34]
Right.
[2:10:34]
Yeah.
[2:10:35]
So what we feel-
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And maybe I'm just naive, and Vinnie's more of an expert
[2:10:40]
than I,
[2:10:41]
the more communities we get involved, the less expensive it's going to be per
[2:10:44]
community.
[2:10:45]
100%.
[2:10:46]
Okay.
[2:10:47]
I think it's a matter of reaching out to whoever's interested in looking at this,
[2:10:51]
and it could be as far as Westport
[2:10:54]
to Wareham.
[2:10:58]
Every community who has a wastewater plant, my understanding is, is going to face
[2:11:02]
the same challenge as we're talking about.
[2:11:04]
100% agree.
[2:11:05]
So the more communities we can get in, I think the more economical,
[2:11:09]
and I think the better chance we have of getting some
[2:11:12]
state or federal monies to assist us.
[2:11:14]
So it seems like the board is pretty much in agreement.
[2:11:17]
Yep.
[2:11:18]
It seems as though the motion that we have drafted will cover what we're looking
[2:11:22]
to do as a first step.
[2:11:23]
Mm-hmm.
[2:11:23]
Does anyone have any questions regarding something that will pertain to this
[2:11:27]
motion, but maybe we haven't discussed tonight?
[2:11:29]
Or do I think this is good to get the ball-
[2:11:31]
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[2:11:32]
Okay. I will entertain a motion to approve Selectboard Member Trapillo to
[2:11:36]
contact Senator Montigny and Representative Silvia, seeking their assistance to
[2:11:40]
set a meeting of South Coast elected and appointed officials to discuss working
[2:11:44]
together to address the cost to dispose of wastewater.
[2:11:47]
So moved.
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Second.
[2:11:48]
Motions been made and seconded. Any further discussion on the motion?
[2:11:52]
Hearing none, all those in favor? Aye. Opposed?
[2:11:55]
Passes unanimously. Mr. Trapillo-
[2:11:57]
Thank you.
[2:11:58]
Get to work.
[2:12:00]
Thank you.
[2:12:00]
Thank you, Mr. Furtado, for being here tonight.
[2:12:02]
Thank you.
[2:12:03]
You're welcome, Mr. Trapillo.
[2:12:05]
Back to chemistry class.
[2:12:06]
Liquids and gases.
[2:12:07]
This is going on off of-
[2:12:09]
Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Come on, 8:00.
[2:12:12]
It's already 8:00.
[2:12:13]
Here's trouble.
[2:12:14]
Mr. Furtado, please.
[2:12:15]
Yeah.
[2:12:17]
Just two, because I heard a couple of things.
[2:12:20]
Bully lost the election because he decided to locate the
[2:12:24]
plant where it was, and where it is, not the standard time scale.
[2:12:28]
You remember that.
[2:12:30]
True.
[2:12:30]
The reason why this all came to a hullabaloo is because the Conservation Law
[2:12:33]
Foundation of New England sued the EPA for not imposing the
[2:12:37]
Clean Water Act in New Bedford.
[2:12:39]
We talked about that outside.
[2:12:40]
Okay.
[2:12:42]
And as part of all of that, the reason why there's a contract operator
[2:12:45]
there is because in lieu of a penalty,
[2:12:50]
in lieu of New Bedford being fined, they were forced, the first
[2:12:53]
seven years of operation, to have a contract operator.
[2:12:58]
And that's why they embarked on that.
[2:13:00]
It wasn't because it was any cheaper.
[2:13:03]
It was because that's what they were forced to do.
[2:13:05]
And they have a residency requirement over there.
[2:13:08]
And if you're a wastewater guy-
[2:13:10]
Yes, sir
[2:13:10]
... and the city leaves you, where are you going to go?
[2:13:14]
So they took a lot of the employees.
[2:13:17]
So when the seven years had elapsed, where are these people going to go?
[2:13:21]
Away.
[2:13:21]
So they stayed there. And with the residency requirement, the city didn't have
[2:13:25]
enough folks to fill it.
[2:13:26]
Thank you.
[2:13:26]
But I wanted to make that clear, because I know somebody who lived through all of
[2:13:30]
that.
[2:13:30]
Here you go.
[2:13:31]
Thank you.
[2:13:32]
All right, moving back, we are going to go back to E2, discussion
[2:13:36]
on draft local aid letter.
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Selectboard member, Rick Trapillo, will review a draft letter seeking the support
[2:13:44]
of other South Coast communities to forward to their legislative
[2:13:47]
delegation, seeking additional funding from the Commonwealth.
[2:13:50]
Thanks.
[2:13:51]
Mr. Trapillo, really quickly,
[2:13:54]
I did see an email from Ms. Hart asking if you had an
[2:13:58]
updated letter. We don't have anything in our packet tonight.
[2:14:01]
Would you like to table this conversation, or do you have something?
[2:14:04]
I think that letter would be counterproductive right now.
[2:14:07]
This is pertaining to local aid?
[2:14:09]
This is the local aid letter.
[2:14:10]
We're back to discussion on draft local aid letter, not the CSO.
[2:14:13]
Oh, I apologize. My-
[2:14:15]
But we don't have a-
[2:14:16]
Still thinking.
[2:14:16]
That's okay, but we don't have a draft letter today, so I don't know if it's been
[2:14:19]
updated.
[2:14:20]
I did not update it,
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but it is September.
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Yep.
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We did say, I think when we first met in June, that we would look at it
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this fall.
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It's getting a little cooler.
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I don't think it would hurt us to perhaps at our next meeting and
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earn to say,
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we need to do something to reach out to our elected officials to increase our
[2:14:42]
local funding. So,
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I'm in favor of working with the draft that I submitted some time
[2:14:49]
ago or waiting to our next select board meeting.
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But it's something I think we should do.
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I think it's something that we could galvanize some support from our elected
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officials to get funding.
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Could you do me a favor?
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Yes, sir.
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Could you, after this meeting, but before the next one, go just
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take one more pass through your letter-
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Yes
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... make sure it's where you want it. Send it to Amy for us to review.
[2:15:09]
Okay.
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And then that way we can vote on that. I agree with you.
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I think we did say we're going to push it to the fall.
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I think-
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Done. I'll do that. Thank you.
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Perfect. Just so that way we have it in front of us to go over.
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I just have a question on this.
[2:15:20]
Yep.
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Nope, you.
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No, go ahead.
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I'm sorry.
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No, you're good. Go right ahead.
[2:15:25]
I was just curious because I know one of the things we talked about related to this
[2:15:29]
was sort of talking further with MMA about what their-
[2:15:33]
Mm-hmm
[2:15:33]
... advocacy
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sort of program, what they were planning on doing for the fall.
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I don't know if you had had a chance to have that conversation or if there's
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somebody that-
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I haven't, but I can.
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Yeah.
[2:15:44]
Yeah.
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Would you be able to-
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Share that with Mr. Trapelo.
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Yeah, I think it would be helpful.
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Prior to the next meeting?
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Yes, sir.
[2:15:49]
Thank you. Mr. Savitz?
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My only comment was, it's a timing comment.
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I think it's a good time to do this now.
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The budgets go into effect in July of a given year.
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The governor will be submitting his or her budget, I think it's going to be a her
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budget,
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probably in January or February. They're writing that
[2:16:08]
budget currently,
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so now is the time to sit down with members of her staff
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presently that are writing that budget to say, "Hey, we need more local aid." But
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yeah, the sooner the better.
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So, if you could
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contact MMA and you could send the draft, maybe you guys could discuss before
[2:16:25]
sending it-
[2:16:25]
Sure
[2:16:25]
... to the board and then... Okay, excellent.
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Good suggestion.
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So we will table...
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Well, I guess, do we have a motion to table E2?
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Removed.
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Second.
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Motions are made and seconded for the discussion. All those in favor?
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Aye. Passes unanimously. All right.
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Up next, consider proposal to transition correspondence from the
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select board agenda to the town website.
[2:16:48]
In support of the town administrators goals, specifically goal number five,
[2:16:52]
improve public communication and transparency, Ms.
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Hart has proposed transitioning the board's correspondence from an agenda item to
[2:16:59]
the town's website. This initiative would provide a central
[2:17:03]
location and ongoing access versus searching through agendas, packets,
[2:17:07]
or attachments
[2:17:09]
into the board's minutes. The board's packet contains a memo outlining the
[2:17:12]
details
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and benefits of this proposal. So just to provide you all just a
[2:17:18]
little bit more background, I had a conversation, it was brought
[2:17:21]
up by Ms. Hart,
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just in an effort to avoid any confusion, but also
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make this easier to find. I appreciate
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her being very proactive with this and putting this
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together. I know it seems like a small change, but I think it would
[2:17:39]
be very beneficial in the future, especially
[2:17:43]
as items keep coming back around. This will put a central
[2:17:47]
location instead of saying, "We discussed that sometime in
[2:17:50]
2024, dig in." It'll all be there. So any
[2:17:54]
further questions from the board, or did that pretty much-
[2:17:56]
I think it's a good idea.
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Questions from the board on this side?
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All right. Hearing none,
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I will entertain a motion to approve to transition board correspondence
[2:18:06]
from the select board agenda to the town website, providing a central location for
[2:18:10]
access to the public.
[2:18:11]
We got it.
[2:18:13]
Oh, sorry. Oh,
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Ms. Carr?
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Hi. Thank you.
[2:18:26]
Can you hear me?
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Yes. Do you have your name and address for the record, please?
[2:18:29]
Erin Carr, A Marina Drive, Mattapoisett.
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I was curious if the board would consider keeping it in a
[2:18:36]
centralized location, but also keeping it on
[2:18:39]
the select board's packet, since some residents go through the
[2:18:43]
packets, and it helps them become aware of certain
[2:18:47]
things.
[2:18:49]
Otherwise, they'd have to proactively be going on the website
[2:18:53]
and might not consider doing that, or remember to do that.
[2:18:58]
I think the thought process is that this would be in a similar spot, like it
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would be sort of instead of where you would go to find the packet, you would go
[2:19:06]
here instead.
[2:19:07]
Okay.
[2:19:07]
So it would be kind of the same process for pulling it up.
[2:19:11]
It'd actually be easier.
[2:19:12]
Yeah, it would be easier than having to search through the packet.
[2:19:17]
Does anyone on the board have any-
[2:19:19]
No.
[2:19:21]
I like the transparency issue, and I like the ease issue.
[2:19:24]
Okay. So just to make sure.
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Do we have a motion?
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So moved.
[2:19:31]
Second.
[2:19:32]
Motions are made and seconded. Any further discussion?
[2:19:35]
All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Passes
[2:19:39]
unanimously. Moving on. Town administrator report, Mr. Hickey.
[2:19:42]
Mr. Chair, just to let the board know, I attended the first
[2:19:46]
budget working group meeting on September 8th, and the members
[2:19:50]
agreed to meet every other week on Tuesday evenings.
[2:19:53]
The next meeting will be on Tuesday, February 22nd.
[2:19:57]
Anne Carrero and I plan to attend each of those meetings.
[2:20:01]
Unfortunately, our conservation agent, Kelly Camara,
[2:20:05]
has put in her resignation letter.
[2:20:07]
I believe we have a question on that, Adam.
[2:20:09]
Sorry. I was just curious as to whether the budget working group may determine who
[2:20:12]
their chair is.
[2:20:13]
Yes. Ken Blanchard is the chair.
[2:20:16]
Thank you.
[2:20:18]
Mr. Lopes is the vice chair, and Mr. Gallagher is the clerk. Perfect.
[2:20:22]
Thank you.
[2:20:25]
Our conservation agent, Kelly Camara, has unfortunately tendered her resignation.
[2:20:28]
Her last day of employment was last week.
[2:20:31]
We are looking at different options to fill that role
[2:20:35]
The building commissioner, the health agent.
[2:20:37]
Do you mind if I add something really quick?
[2:20:38]
Agreed.
[2:20:39]
In a similar timeline,
[2:20:44]
it sort of happened reversed. We had a conservation agent, and we had a
[2:20:47]
planning director resign. That sort of became a land use thing.
[2:20:52]
Now we're seeing the reverse, where we have a new planner and the conservation
[2:20:55]
agent is resigning. I just want to stress, I don't think it would be a
[2:20:59]
good idea to go back to that land use agreement.
[2:21:01]
Agreed.
[2:21:01]
Okay. I just wanted to put that out there because-
[2:21:04]
I appreciate that
[2:21:04]
... I don't think that would be... I think it'd be going backwards.
[2:21:07]
No, I appreciate that.
[2:21:08]
Thank you.
[2:21:10]
Our building commissioner, health agent, public works director, and I will be
[2:21:12]
hosting a meeting tomorrow night, West Island residents,
[2:21:16]
here at the town office building at 6:00 to discuss their concerns over current and
[2:21:20]
possible future development and the impact on the environment it's having on and
[2:21:24]
around the island.
[2:21:26]
It'll be held upstairs in the auditorium.
[2:21:29]
I don't have a number of how many people are going to be there at this point, but
[2:21:32]
I've asked if they could provide us a ballpark so we can make sure we've got the
[2:21:35]
room set up
[2:21:37]
to have enough people.
[2:21:39]
Hoping it'll be a productive meeting.
[2:21:41]
Yes.
[2:21:41]
And continue to fast forward, I feel-
[2:21:43]
I just wanted to make a comment to the board on that.
[2:21:45]
I know we have all been contacted by members of West Island.
[2:21:48]
If you're planning on attending this meeting, please let
[2:21:52]
Mr. Hickey know, because right now we do not have a posted select board meeting.
[2:21:57]
So if we have more than three of us-
[2:22:00]
Well, the two of you.
[2:22:01]
More than two of us go for a discussion that we've all already started
[2:22:05]
engaging in, I'm not. We-
[2:22:07]
So I'm planning on going, because I was the one who invited Mr.
[2:22:10]
Hickey to the meeting on West Island that we had.
[2:22:13]
So I would like to follow up with that.
[2:22:16]
I would like to attend. So if either of you were also planning on attending-
[2:22:19]
I'm going to be out of town.
[2:22:20]
And I'm going to be in a library trustee. So, all right.
[2:22:22]
So you two will be good to attend, and we won't have to post a meeting.
[2:22:25]
Thank you, Mr. Hickey.
[2:22:26]
No worries. Hopefully it's a productive meeting.
[2:22:30]
There's a lot of questions that I think that they have, and hoping
[2:22:34]
that they get a lot of answers out to them,
[2:22:38]
so at least they understand the process.
[2:22:40]
May not always agree with everything that's being said, but at least they'll have a
[2:22:42]
better understanding.
[2:22:44]
The latest appeal on the sale of the Rogers School was held on
[2:22:48]
September 10th. Attorney Wade indicated that the judges on the panel
[2:22:52]
were well-informed and hopeful of the decision we made in favor of the town.
[2:22:55]
She felt good about the presentation.
[2:22:58]
The appeals court takes typically about 130 days to render a decision, so we're
[2:23:02]
looking at sometime around
[2:23:04]
January, unfortunately for that.
[2:23:07]
And I also was invited to attend a business
[2:23:11]
breakfast and panel discussion that's been organized by
[2:23:14]
Senator Mark Silvia, I apologize for the typo,
[2:23:18]
and the Economic Development Committee on Thursday the 17th of September.
[2:23:22]
The Vice President of Business Development for Mass Development and the Regional
[2:23:25]
Director of the South Coast,
[2:23:29]
Cape and Islands, another typo, sorry,
[2:23:33]
for Massachusetts Office of Business Development will be guest speakers.
[2:23:37]
Anne and I have had meetings already with the two
[2:23:41]
individuals from the Commonwealth about some of the local
[2:23:45]
commercial properties that are in town, both in the 40R districts and
[2:23:50]
as well as some other properties that are eligible to be developed.
[2:23:53]
So we're looking forward to putting some faces with names and attending that
[2:23:57]
meeting, and hopefully garnering some interest in ferry.
[2:24:01]
Be happy to answer any questions anybody has.
[2:24:05]
Questions from the board?
[2:24:06]
All right.
[2:24:07]
Well, thank you.
[2:24:07]
With that, we will be moving on to board member items, committee liaison reports.
[2:24:10]
Mr. Sanders.
[2:24:11]
I don't have anything to add. Didn't have any meetings that
[2:24:14]
occurred. Marine Resources was canceled.
[2:24:17]
There was a conflict with the harbor master. Thank you.
[2:24:21]
Thank you. Ms. Keches.
[2:24:23]
There is an EDC meeting this week. I unfortunately will be away,
[2:24:27]
so I don't have anything to add. They have not met since
[2:24:31]
the meeting
[2:24:33]
Mm-hmm.
[2:24:34]
So, I did have a question, though.
[2:24:37]
Mm-hmm.
[2:24:38]
As we are proceeding and we talked about having the joint
[2:24:42]
meetings with Fin Com and school committee,
[2:24:45]
have we made any decisions about sort of like the format and the things that
[2:24:49]
we're going to discuss at those meetings and-
[2:24:52]
Yes
[2:24:52]
... and when they're happening and all of that?
[2:24:56]
Like, where are we at with it?
[2:24:58]
So,
[2:24:59]
I reached out to the school,
[2:25:04]
more than once.
[2:25:05]
Mm-hmm.
[2:25:05]
Asking for
[2:25:08]
your interest and a timeline. I've given
[2:25:11]
them a couple of dates.
[2:25:13]
Mm-hmm.
[2:25:13]
Late September, which will have to be revised to October.
[2:25:16]
Yeah.
[2:25:17]
I haven't heard back. The finance committee, I'm sure, is absolutely going to
[2:25:21]
need and is going to do that for the challenging board or the
[2:25:25]
board that I think is going to
[2:25:28]
have more of a challenge in trying to establish a meeting date with the school
[2:25:31]
committee.
[2:25:31]
Mm-hmm.
[2:25:32]
I'm hoping that at their meeting Wednesday evening we'll have that
[2:25:35]
discussion and try to
[2:25:39]
provide some dates-
[2:25:40]
Mm-hmm
[2:25:40]
... to the select board. I think that
[2:25:45]
we've had it once. There were some good points and bad points probably with
[2:25:49]
that, and if we can try to take
[2:25:51]
away and figure out how to improve on those.
[2:25:55]
Mm-hmm.
[2:25:56]
And I don't know of any format that's really been formally discussed and decided
[2:26:00]
upon. Whatever, hopefully, it's just going to be an open, honest
[2:26:04]
conversation about where we stand and what the goals are.
[2:26:07]
Okay. Thank you.
[2:26:10]
I did happen to have a quick conversation with the chair of the school committee,
[2:26:13]
not related necessarily to this, but just mentioned that we had
[2:26:17]
been having conversations-
[2:26:20]
... and keeping it open to look forward to the opportunity-
[2:26:24]
Great
[2:26:24]
... to have this.
[2:26:25]
So I know that in their budget process, typically they're just in
[2:26:29]
the early stages developing the upcoming year's budget.
[2:26:32]
Mm-hmm.
[2:26:34]
I think my comment would be that they may not be as far along
[2:26:38]
as
[2:26:39]
perhaps we might be in terms of thinking
[2:26:43]
ahead, but
[2:26:44]
just knowing how that process typically works.
[2:26:47]
So I would just, if there's anything I can do to help facilitate that-
[2:26:51]
Sure
[2:26:51]
... I'm happy to do that.
[2:26:52]
Sure.
[2:26:52]
Yeah, and look forward to seeing what
[2:26:57]
road that takes.
[2:26:59]
Starting early and being clear about the parameters and
[2:27:03]
who's got what responsibility-
[2:27:05]
Mm
[2:27:05]
... and all of that, I think is really helpful in thinking about where
[2:27:09]
we have to go and the obligations that we have-
[2:27:12]
Absolutely
[2:27:12]
... in terms of unions and all of that.
[2:27:15]
So thanks, Paula.
[2:27:18]
Yeah. So I've been
[2:27:20]
busy.
[2:27:21]
Busy.
[2:27:24]
I attended the Commission on Disability, which met on
[2:27:27]
September 10th. They will meet again on October
[2:27:31]
8th.
[2:27:33]
There weren't any major issues that
[2:27:36]
need to be reported on. I also went to the Historical
[2:27:40]
Commission meeting, which was on September
[2:27:44]
8th, and I do want to make people aware
[2:27:48]
that Chris Kelly, who was the former director of the local
[2:27:52]
government programs at the Massachusetts Historical Commission, he has been hired
[2:27:56]
as a consultant to the town through CPC funds,
[2:28:01]
to help to update the survey of historical properties
[2:28:04]
throughout town. So he has already been to town.
[2:28:07]
You may see people out taking photos, but he's going to be doing a
[2:28:10]
presentation on October 20th at 6:00
[2:28:14]
in Town Hall that's open to everyone.
[2:28:17]
So he will be explaining what he's doing, what's supposed to come out of it,
[2:28:21]
and if you have any questions or any interest in that,
[2:28:24]
please
[2:28:25]
attend that meeting.
[2:28:29]
I will be attending the SRTA meeting
[2:28:33]
next week on September 24th at 2:00.
[2:28:36]
And then just that meeting that I attended on Ross Island on
[2:28:39]
September 3rd with five folks that has
[2:28:43]
progressed to this meeting that Mr. Hickey has coordinated.
[2:28:46]
So
[2:28:47]
that's what I've been up to.
[2:28:49]
Busy.
[2:28:50]
Mr. Cannella?
[2:28:50]
Three updates. Thank you again, Mr.
[2:28:52]
Hickey, for allowing me to go to the meeting with Mr. Jamie Point.
[2:28:56]
Meetings like that can only be helpful to both the town
[2:29:00]
of Fairhaven and the city of New Bedford.
[2:29:04]
Not to belabor it, but the issue with the CSO,
[2:29:07]
I think the board's made the right decision with how we proceed, and thank you, Ms.
[2:29:10]
Keichler, for that advice.
[2:29:13]
Also, the secondary conversations that come out were invaluable
[2:29:17]
with the disposal of the cake and why they still keep
[2:29:21]
that wastewater treatment plant privatized.
[2:29:24]
The second meeting I had was with CIRPTED.
[2:29:27]
I am on the nomination committee for their commissioners, and we did select
[2:29:31]
the nominees that will be announced next week at their gala dinner.
[2:29:35]
So if anybody wants to attend that, it's kind of a fun night.
[2:29:39]
Mr. Mark Silvia, Representative Silvia, will be a guest speaker, so that's
[2:29:43]
a nice event. And lastly, I want to thank the board
[2:29:47]
sincerely for supporting the budget working group.
[2:29:53]
I was sitting there and looking at the quality of the people
[2:29:57]
that the town had stepped forward to volunteer their
[2:30:01]
time,
[2:30:02]
and I was so impressed.
[2:30:05]
Every one of them understood the severity of the situation. Mr.
[2:30:08]
Hickey gave a great presentation on the budget. Thank you. Mr.
[2:30:13]
Hickey answered some pretty tough questions in terms of where he would look at
[2:30:17]
for some out-of-the-box thinking.
[2:30:19]
And everybody on the group said that they're looking not to be FinCom
[2:30:23]
2.0, but to really look at contributing new ideas to
[2:30:27]
the long-term health and viability of the
[2:30:31]
town. And everybody spoke from their hearts, stating that they
[2:30:35]
have children, they have grandchildren, and they're doing this for those grandkids.
[2:30:39]
So it was really quite a group of people.
[2:30:42]
So we did elect a chair, Mr. Blanchard,
[2:30:46]
a vice chair, Mr.-
[2:30:49]
Lopes
[2:30:50]
... Lopes, sorry, and clerk, Mr. Gallagher.
[2:30:53]
So we're meeting.
[2:30:56]
Mr. Hickey has already sent out some information on the town of Dedham
[2:31:00]
for their budget working group, because so many municipalities are facing this
[2:31:04]
issue. So thank you again to this board for putting that group
[2:31:07]
together, and now the work begins.
[2:31:12]
For myself, no sustainability meeting yet, but we do have a Halloween
[2:31:16]
costume swap Dropbox in the lobby
[2:31:19]
of the town hall and also in other town buildings.
[2:31:23]
The Library Board of Trustees meeting is tomorrow. I will be attending that.
[2:31:27]
Belonging committee, like I had mentioned in a previous meeting, had taken some
[2:31:31]
time off, but we'll be revamping and meeting in
[2:31:35]
October. I do have, and I don't believe this is something
[2:31:39]
that we can vote on tonight, Ms. Hart, unless you can clarify, but I
[2:31:43]
do believe it would be in the board's best interest to
[2:31:47]
formally dissolve the Dog Park Study Committee.
[2:31:51]
We have had such a challenge getting members and
[2:31:55]
a lot of frustration from members who have stepped up and not been
[2:31:59]
able to do anything because we've been unable to get a quorum.
[2:32:02]
And I think now that we are seeking applicants for
[2:32:06]
positions, it would be in our best interest to just sort of say we're no longer
[2:32:09]
seeking applicants for that committee.
[2:32:12]
We don't have the funds to start a dog park right now, and I think that the
[2:32:15]
BPW has been tasked with doing an overhaul of the parks and doing a
[2:32:19]
study there. So I think that's an opportunity for it to come back if it ever needs
[2:32:23]
to. Do we
[2:32:26]
need to vote on that or?
[2:32:28]
Okay, so
[2:32:30]
just a thought from the board. I don't know if you
[2:32:32]
have any strong feelings either way, send it my way.
[2:32:36]
Office hours I had today,
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I would call it another success. I had four total attendees.
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Three in person, one on Zoom.
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Nice full discussion, a lot of it surrounding
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traffic on Route 6,
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specifically during
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the turn off of Mill Road and the turn off of over
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near East Haven Schools. I said I would send these concerns
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over to the proper areas. And also just about
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how we make our appointments,
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and questions surrounding the appointment process.
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So that was good to be able to have those conversations. Do you have a comment?
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I have an addition to what I said.
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Okay. And then the last thing I just want to put out is just a reminder to
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the board, as per our protocols,
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make sure that you're sending requests for department heads,
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either to Mr. Hickey to facilitate to department heads or to
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myself to pass to the appropriate channels to try to set
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up to put on an agenda. We want to make sure that we're not sending
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requests to department heads directly, as such to not give kind of confusion on
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where the orders are coming from.
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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
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But so that was just a request I said I would mention
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before. Do you have one more thing to add?
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I did, and I wonder if we can add this to it.
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I don't expect a conversation about it, but I wonder if we could add this to a
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future agenda, is I've been asked by more than one constituent
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about if we have any policies on AI.
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Mm-hmm.
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And so nobody's prepared to talk about it tonight,
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but I will write something.
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Maybe type something in if you want.
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I can go to ChatGPT.
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What I would ask, if you could just send to-
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You and Mr. Hickey
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... Mr. Hickey and myself as well.
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Yep.
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Just sort of specifically what you're like, is it how it
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pertains to board and committees? Is it who's using it? Is it when it can be used?
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Just so that way we have some guidelines on the conversation.
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Happy to, thank you.
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Because I think if we have an overarching AI conversation, we'll be here well past
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8:05.
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Yep.
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Anything else to add for board and committee members? Good to move on?
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All right.
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We have our minutes. We have to accept the open
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session minutes of August 24th, 2026.
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I'll entertain a motion to accept the open session minutes as
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presented.
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Moved.
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Second.
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Motions are made and seconded. Any further discussion?
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Hearing none, all those in favor? Aye.
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Aye.
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Opposed? Passes unanimously. Next, we have executive
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session minutes. I will entertain a motion to accept the executive session minutes
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of August 24th, 2026 as presented.
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Moved.
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Second.
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Motions are made and seconded. Any further discussion?
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Hearing none, all those in favor?
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Aye.
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Aye.
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We have email, Moore Town's pause/terminate flock
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agreements. Office of Attorney General open meeting log
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2026-112. I will entertain a motion to
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accept the correspondence as listed on the agenda.
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Moved.
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Second.
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Motions are made and seconded. Any further discussion?
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Hearing none, all those in favor? Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Any opposed? Passes unanimously.
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Our next regularly scheduled select board meeting is Monday, September 28th,
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2026 at 6:00 PM. Lastly, we have an executive session.
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I will entertain a motion to enter into executive session pursuant to
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General Law Chapter 30A, subsection
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21A3, to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining
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or litigation if an open meeting may have a detrimental effect
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on the bargaining or litigation position of the public body and the chair.
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So declares ABCC, re: Fourth and Long Inc.,
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DBA Rescue Inn's Tavern, and not to return to open session.
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Moved.
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Second.
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Motions are made and seconded. Any further discussion?
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Hearing none, we're going to call for a roll call vote. Mr. Sanders?
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Andrew Sanders, in favor.
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Ms. Pichler?
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Pam Pichler, in favor.
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Ms. Mello?
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Natalie Mello, aye.
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Mr. Chiappetta?
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Carlo aye.
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Germano, aye. It is 8:33. We are adjourned.