[0:01] Please. Yes, this is opinion on stuff. We could use some fresh, some fresh insights

[0:11] for those who are so wide, are we reporting? Yes. All right, welcome everyone to the May 20th, 2026, the meeting of the report sheet commission for the City of Balserts. My name is Amy Crompton. I am the chair of this commission and we're going to go around the room.

[0:29] see who's here and for the city council is um i'm playing northern remember of the

[0:35] Christian well it's secrets do you threat and john's time you threat

[0:40] listen to rose duly appointed as one commissioner Charles Winston your works thank you

[0:48] and finally goes down to her so got it in like fourth four clock was happening um our

[0:57] So we do not have a Sean with us this evening. Is that correct?

[1:01] That's correct.

[1:02] He is in for it.

[1:05] Okay. So we will move directly to a approval of minutes for April.

[1:12] We're on.

[1:12] So there.

[1:13] Thank you again to Kathleen.

[1:15] We can head this together.

[1:16] Wonderful.

[1:18] Did anyone see anything that they thought needed to be changed?

[1:23] I don't.

[1:23] Let's make one note. So we're converting over to more AD accessible formatting for all of our forms.

[1:31] This will be the new format in the city logo, brain mark.

[1:36] Okay. All aerial fonts. So just say you see that that's why it's a little bit different.

[1:43] Okay. And I'll send you over to template.

[1:47] That'd be great. Okay. We can add to me too.

[1:49] Yeah, we don't just add that to be on there. We'll copy that.

[1:52] That's perfect. Thank you. Okay, I think I tried to use the right art and I sent it. I know I put it on the wrong letter here, but I think I was trying to use the right classes.

[2:01] You get actors hard now, is that right or is it something else? Very all. It was Ariel. What have the photos? I thought that was supposed to be it. Okay, maybe I misunderstood. All right.

[2:13] I'm behind. All right. Great. Anybody have anything? Nothing? All right. Do I hear emotion?

[2:19] Thank you.

[2:21] Thank you.

[2:22] In my second.

[2:23] All right.

[2:24] All right.

[2:29] All right.

[2:30] All right.

[2:30] It's approved.

[2:31] All right.

[2:33] Mr. President, do you have any public comments or petition?

[2:36] No, we do not.

[2:37] If you do not.

[2:38] All right.

[2:39] Then we can directly on to business on the agenda.

[2:42] And we shall start with our representative from the Council.

[2:48] We just went on the analysis calendar.

[2:51] Yeah, so we just put over calendar this morning,

[2:55] somethings that shifted around slightly to give a little bit more time on

[3:00] some of the Virginia village conversation before

[3:05] any issues of RMP and to take up some zoning considerations.

[3:14] But things on the calendar, just as they stand on the highlighted, what I should be talking about.

[3:21] But coming up on the 26th, we'll hear kind of update on that Virginia Village process

[3:27] since the initiating resolution code amendments needs to be on there in order to send out to the planning commission,

[3:37] And like I said, zoning related considerations for, you know, what would be allowed to be under this site right now by right and what additional allowances may be kind of put into effects given the portable housing goals that we've been talking about and some of the conversations around small area plan amendments and like what the what those parcels could potentially accommodate in terms of expanded.

[4:07] of portable housing, or increased portable housing, so something to pay attention to, I've

[4:14] been when it goes out to planning commission in terms of potential adjustments, there

[4:19] was a conversation during the community meetings that took place at Oak Street Elementary

[4:25] and at Columbia Baptist about the goals generally, and there were older, small area plans

[4:33] that had needed to be reconciled between a plan

[4:36] for more open space and a community center there.

[4:39] For example, as a plan to actually retain

[4:42] the preserve, potentially expand the portable housing

[4:45] on the site, and then in terms of having those conversations,

[4:50] community feedback was still around the importance

[4:53] of that being the green space.

[4:56] But if there is, you know, expanded housing there,

[4:59] to me.

[5:00] Sure that it still has kind of links to picture these park that isn't, you know, at the expense of all the green space that is there, that they're sort of, you know, better lengths and open space and green, greenery and tree buffers and things.

[5:16] And so, like I said, probably something for urban forest streets that pay attention to or as it comes up on planning commission to see, you know, what that.

[5:29] they look like or what the code amendments look like, and then, yeah, we'll do our quarterly

[5:35] CIP update. I'm trying to think I don't think that there's anything on there that is urban

[5:42] forestry related as much as like the ongoing DQW projects, and then the council priorities.

[5:51] I know that you have the 2026 priorities included in tonight's packet for urban forestry,

[5:57] and they get aligned with the environmental sustainability

[6:00] role in wanting to do what we can to preserve as much of the

[6:06] green spaces we're able to, even though we don't have great

[6:09] stable teeth to be able to do self and looking at, you know,

[6:15] they continue to continue potential in the legislature,

[6:22] future legislative sessions to position ourselves to maybe get more

[6:26] us already and we missed out on this year because of the town kind of delineation on things.

[6:34] I know Kurt was here last month talking about urban design master plan and so when we're doing

[6:41] kind of comprehensive plans and documents we've been trying to follow at the city attorney's advice

[6:47] these initiating resolutions in order to properly make days. But we're doing and follow

[6:54] better process and so that's I think we need still need to have the Council

[7:00] conversation about it might be the previous week, Charles, about the scope of the

[7:06] urban design master plans of what it will and will cover given how many other

[7:13] things planning also has on it. In its portfolio right now to make it kind of

[7:24] or what's part of it and what is in part of it,

[7:27] but we're gonna say we received the update from Kurt

[7:30] on that, or the preview from Kurt last month.

[7:34] But that's largely the Chesapeake Bay regulations.

[7:39] That was really bring us into compliance,

[7:42] apparently we were out of compliance

[7:44] and had to enter into a compliance agreement.

[7:47] And so this is getting us into compliance

[7:50] where it should be so less of updates coming out of the legislative session and more of

[7:58] implementing what we're supposed to be doing by I think it was July or August. We kind of

[8:04] deadline we had so that we had visibility into that recently and so that's what the Chesapeake

[8:10] breaks, but that's mostly in terms of urban forestry related.

[8:20] The stormwater session, we made significant comments to that.

[8:26] Two years ago, two summers ago.

[8:29] I don't think this last summer was sort of gross.

[8:31] Yeah.

[8:33] Do we need to look at it at the end?

[8:36] Can you have to see if anything?

[8:38] I don't think so.

[8:39] I mean, this one, I can go back and hold from, I guess it would have been two weeks ago

[8:45] the last work session where we covered this, but you know, this was more things that we need

[8:51] to do to ensure that our code is in a place and our process is in a place and that one, you know,

[8:59] permits are coming in that like the resource protection area is properly slides that when, you know,

[9:05] different protections are in place and so it was less about updates and more about implementation

[9:13] of the governing standards. Okay. Also, I think some of the burden was like references,

[9:19] like some of the references were out of date in ARCO. So we kind of went to more directly to like,

[9:25] I don't think you have a lot of changes subsequently. I think it's really about instead of us having

[9:31] our own written version, and our code,

[9:33] we're just referencing the state code.

[9:36] When it gets supported, as I understand it from this

[9:41] of the few conversations like that.

[9:43] Yeah, I can, if you want to continue,

[9:45] I can pull it from our last word session,

[9:48] and then I'll be able to review a better sense of what

[9:50] exactly this one water piece says in the review.

[9:54] OK, thank you.

[9:56] Charles, we've got any updates on.

[10:00] Staff.

[10:05] No one will be saying.

[10:07] I have to be this way too.

[10:09] So this is where you jump in.

[10:11] The husband there, I'll always have it in doing it.

[10:15] Well, they did such a truck today.

[10:18] Fortunately, I wasn't able to attend.

[10:19] Oh, right, right.

[10:21] Yeah.

[10:22] And, um, yeah.

[10:24] Yeah.

[10:24] Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[10:25] They're doing great job.

[10:26] Okay.

[10:26] or chugging along with is leading the charge and getting a lot of things taken care of

[10:31] because it's now, everything's leaked out except for all the dead trees. So we're kind of in that

[10:37] dead tree motor right now, but on public property and on private properties. Okay. So yeah,

[10:43] I mean, they're doing great. No, no, no, it's just good.

[10:49] So yeah, so yeah, so our staff report

[10:52] From May 4th, basically, for the initial even resolution on the just PFA ranks, staff described

[11:02] it as part of a set of relatively minor technical modifications that the city was taking

[11:08] following a recent review by the Virginia Department of Environmental Quality and the first

[11:18] pieces of it as deficiencies identified by DBQ, the city's comprehensive plan and the storm

[11:25] order of streams and natural springs, chapter had to be amended to include a CBPA map showing

[11:32] the resources protection area and resource management area lands within state limits, a narrative

[11:38] and a corresponding map that describes and depicts areas of the city that exhibit physical

[11:43] constraints to development such as steep slopes, highly erodable soils and areas

[11:48] prone to flooding and air to the corresponding map that'scribed from the pick

[11:51] areas of the city with no stream bank, a load of issues, and a narrative in

[11:56] corresponding map of the existing and potential water pollution sources. And then the

[12:01] second piece of it was,

[12:06] yeah,

[12:14] we did it have that, that there were issues coming out of

[12:17] ordinance consistency, reveal, for example, a establishing the plan that the development

[12:26] review process for all development exceeding 2,500 square feet of land disturbance who

[12:30] have normally talked about, like in 1,500 square foot grain plan, trigger, but it wasn't kind

[12:38] of captured everywhere, maybe that it should have been through the references to the use of an

[12:47] assessment, which was an permitted, like I said, recording with depiction of the resource protection

[12:53] area, resource management area, boundaries on plaques and site plans, group re-enotations,

[13:00] and that the notations must include the requirement to retain and understand the vegetated

[13:04] hundred-foot-foot-foot-foot-foot and the limitations on the development and the RPI, who are kind

[13:08] of the facilities of redevelopment and then plans for development review process.

[13:15] So need for consistent documentation of sites,

[13:18] specific or create terminations.

[13:20] And then making sure that those sites,

[13:24] specific evaluations have X, Y, and Z components,

[13:28] and then the comp plan pieces that I talked about.

[13:33] So staff seem to say that a lot of this is happening,

[13:36] but isn't kind of captured.

[13:38] I'm a bit of the work session we talked about the importance

[13:41] of the RPA and the resource management area, especially because we do have those additional protections

[13:50] for like, you know, current, freeze, and everything else that is there in terms of like not having

[13:58] as much disturbance. And so we need to make sure that as things are coming in that we are appropriately

[14:04] before I get rid of those additional protections applied,

[14:07] so they shouldn't have must do so.

[14:12] Because you,

[14:15] is strong on their check on whether the trees are still there.

[14:21] If we've got the new moment coming in

[14:23] and they decide to take everything down,

[14:25] and they don't know what's in our food there.

[14:29] We'll see whether or not the trees are there.

[14:35] That's storm water for overseas, the RPAs, but it's kind of a report, like when I'm going around,

[14:44] check me out and you know, yeah, yeah, they were seeing the RPAs putting this chart.

[14:51] But they only have like a, a routine checking to see how things are going to do drones,

[14:57] just walking around or whatever.

[15:00] Apparently, looking in when there's somebody who wants to do some kind of development, just like you did.

[15:05] Is that just a story that I know that's correct?

[15:07] Okay. I just got a letter in the mail that should come in and check our storm water area.

[15:13] Okay.

[15:14] Yeah.

[15:14] We did that in our House on the Grove Avenue appears.

[15:16] You know, I don't know if they were checking for trees.

[15:19] Well, yeah.

[15:19] Yeah.

[15:19] If you rely more on my neighbors, snitching, I think.

[15:22] You know.

[15:24] Yeah.

[15:24] If they're neighbors, no.

[15:25] It's an archaea.

[15:25] I don't know.

[15:26] I'll see you in the fair about it.

[15:28] Yeah, yeah, I guess the first time I've seen it, I've got to let it open.

[15:34] Okay, because I was just curious how, what public education is there on this?

[15:42] This is a new moment of getting a letter or something amended to their property.

[15:48] Yeah, yes, yes, yes, you have that.

[15:50] Okay, and with all of the restrictions and governance or whatever they're in.

[15:54] I mean, it's just lucky that the people who bought the house from past that on

[15:57] for us.

[15:59] Unless you go for organized and we got everything when I read through it, that was

[16:02] they okay.

[16:03] So then my got the sweater.

[16:04] I was like, oh, and then I went and got that out.

[16:06] That's all.

[16:06] So the documentation should be there somewhere.

[16:10] I'll be right there.

[16:12] Raise it.

[16:12] What the situation doesn't really mean to me like a list of, like, flags for every

[16:16] house.

[16:17] We do it with the permits counter because we use it for reference a lot.

[16:21] We're like, we get one, we'll save them.

[16:23] but we don't really have like a library of, really, but I'm familiar with it.

[16:28] But all of our GS mapping has, you know, we look at the properties it tells us and

[16:34] to the government review process if it's in our PA, if modern American flags and like there are

[16:38] processes but no we're not. I don't know, to my knowledge there is no like audit, sort of speak,

[16:46] So all of these, I could be wrong, but I'm just not aware.

[16:52] Okay, I'm just curious, that's what D to let's see because I had a lot of those two

[16:58] wisdomists asked me to start to tell me all about their neighbor when it just

[17:02] does, right, right, I'm talking to Creek and I'm just taking on the truth down on

[17:05] my, well, how do you love to do that? And they don't know it's, you know what I mean?

[17:09] I'm just wondering now, what are the mechanisms here? Yeah, well, we have the

[17:13] And I had like an eight page like, you know, compliance agreement and it said what we needed to do and like the technical pieces of things and so hopefully now we have a, you know, a better sense of what the

[17:25] complain needs to reflect or what, you know, or existing practices, how they need to be

[17:33] memorialized or maybe, you know, and it's a different one. I don't know what we're doing.

[17:40] Whatever it is, there was a review where we're implementing those audio and during the work session,

[17:45] I was like, well, can we just confirm, you know, that that that we are flagging in the appropriate

[17:52] it way, given the additional protections, right, right exist for a reason, but we've never had a

[17:58] fine.

[17:59] Yesterday, as Fairfax said, I believe they do have sanctions, but I wouldn't have similar sort of

[18:06] related.

[18:06] We allowed to know the outcome of that.

[18:09] Look at the, often the fair shop on South Washington to cut down trees on the park line.

[18:16] Yeah, public information.

[18:19] I'm sure, well, one is a good idea.

[18:23] You think of a reduced fine, but it was still significant.

[18:26] I don't recall something.

[18:28] Was it almost like a threshold for an organization?

[18:32] I don't recall the number.

[18:33] I can follow them though, for sure.

[18:35] We had no precedent to go.

[18:37] Maybe the best.

[18:38] Sorry, this is a precedent.

[18:40] We should follow up because even though it was in like the city manager's ultimate

[18:45] just right and right, it's okay. But we're right there and I'll like to reduce it. It did say like that, you know,

[18:52] I think the commission right would be informed of the multiment.

[18:56] And before that, right, here concludes. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And that was that's one of those issues

[19:04] that it would be nice at some point I'd like to think through a sort of a policy document, but a

[19:11] document on how to run that kind of a conversation. Because I didn't know, I didn't do it all

[19:18] but I didn't really, I didn't quite know. And so I think what's at the BCA or whatever does

[19:26] that kind of stuff all the time, right? People cry, you know, that kind of thing. So it would be nice to

[19:33] have some of that information about how to secure this conversation now.

[19:37] I don't know, I don't know, but if I have a place to talk to, I don't know.

[19:41] Two or two, nobody survived.

[19:43] Nobody's crying.

[19:44] But I realized I didn't really understand what a nice cleaning way to do it,

[19:49] but at least don't clean the way to do it.

[19:51] It would have been.

[19:52] I just felt like we were probably just kind of fumbling around.

[19:54] You guys were very helpful.

[19:56] But I was like, what are we getting out here?

[19:58] Because you guys, you all still have...

[20:00] So we could throw out a number of ring you could still say no to that. So I didn't want to get his hopes up to five.

[20:07] Sure. You know, at the same time, you want to be a reason we're going to use this for ice.

[20:14] Yeah, exactly.

[20:15] I think I see it as hard.

[20:16] I do remember he did a nice to enjoy it on a separate email chain. So he was impressed and how professional and play everybody was to process including the course.

[20:26] He was, well that's nice. Yeah, he was, he was, he was coming into a straight up part of the year.

[20:34] And, you know, I fear of misnot the way it's going to be. It's not the way we conduct business.

[20:39] And he still felt that very fancy boat.

[20:41] Yeah, and Tim's ready to pile.

[20:44] No, he just tried.

[20:45] And he just, you know, we, we tried walk it through.

[20:49] But I felt like we, I'm a terrible loss of our, I'm not a good judge.

[20:54] Right, I want to give people a bit of a bit of a doubt. I want to make sure that they can afford to pay fine, right, and just that's how I best who I am. So I know that's not helpful if they're trying to close the line that means something.

[21:06] But he seemed to try it was he didn't come in, you know, very blazing or whatever, and it accused us of anything. So I.

[21:13] That would do this paper.

[21:15] Yeah, so anyway, at some point, that's one of those things that like, the rest of the thing through because that happens again.

[21:21] Yeah, oh, I'll reach up to the BZT Aliens on and test out a conversation with them.

[21:27] Okay, so now it's exactly that.

[21:31] Yeah.

[21:33] Yeah.

[21:33] I mean, even just as a jumping off point, like, you know, we can, you know,

[21:38] settle out more regularly to worry, right?

[21:39] Right.

[21:40] So in any of you had any thoughts about what happened and how it transpires and what you'd like to see.

[21:50] We can have that kind of conversation.

[21:53] We should kind of have a precedent for if we can get another one in the future.

[21:59] Yeah.

[21:59] Really getting the money for years or something.

[22:02] Yeah.

[22:02] It's pretty rare.

[22:04] I mean, both.

[22:05] I mean, I'd say I've been here a long time.

[22:08] People just pick up the phone and call me.

[22:10] I'm just happy to walk and feel it down.

[22:13] All right.

[22:14] Does anyone else have any information you'd like to share?

[22:17] That things going on.

[22:19] costume reps and tell us about, you should know that, new, other than your finals were coming up to you.

[22:27] Some are going to share it. That is very important. John, you're about to go to do some more

[22:35] maintenance work on the trees you planted last fall in Crossmen. Correct. See you. That's great. Thank you.

[22:41] And then I just want, I don't know if this is relevant to fall structure. It was someone

[22:47] I've been scouting everywhere like this new beach, new Disney's that's going around, it was like a big thing in Fairfax County, like recently I don't know if that's an issue here now too.

[23:00] Yeah.

[23:01] Yeah.

[23:02] Yeah.

[23:04] Those are Fairfax's.

[23:06] Yeah.

[23:07] An transition to each one.

[23:09] There's one in the park.

[23:10] There's a nice little beach.

[23:11] And there's one on the chair.

[23:12] Yeah.

[23:12] It's a nice boat.

[23:13] Yeah.

[23:14] Yeah.

[23:14] There's an old chair.

[23:15] and on in Crossman Park at the Jefferson Connector Trail.

[23:21] Yes, yes, yes.

[23:23] Yes, we have a few, but we haven't had that much.

[23:27] We don't have more stands to them, so it's, you know, we're not likely to be effective

[23:32] but I appreciate bringing it up, but it's something that every time I walk around

[23:36] I look at the beach trees and just check on.

[23:38] I don't know, I was changing the topic, so other, some other feedback, but, yeah,

[23:49] it was from the beach.

[23:51] You know, there's a specific shirt that I wouldn't recommend.

[23:53] I wouldn't recommend.

[23:54] There's something on bar, what's the, what's the, what's the tell? Can you tell?

[23:59] What's the special?

[24:00] Do we use, who, who, who, who, who, who start to look funky, like different different ways?

[24:05] Yeah, like what's your call, what's the new question?

[24:07] It was the GG, the Zoning sites.

[24:12] Yeah.

[24:12] Absolutely.

[24:14] Yeah.

[24:15] Is it an insect or a...

[24:19] Oh, it's a...

[24:20] The Gorg's caused by a worm.

[24:23] Okay.

[24:27] We'll take a chance.

[24:29] Yeah.

[24:30] I mean, we...

[24:32] But we haven't had really a...

[24:34] a health report about what is what is the main diseases and things that affect other

[24:42] than the opposite of that. The animal ash block was a huge money to downpour a lot of stuff.

[24:47] Yeah. And what's our second one? The Oakwoods, maybe?

[24:51] Probably woodie dolls that look like a box.

[24:56] And then on.

[25:00] I have a few calls about a sudden oak to climb, so that's still kind of affecting us, but it's kind of tapering off.

[25:08] Okay. I think our weather kind of balanced back out from that. So all of the ones that got hit, I think they're mostly.

[25:17] Thought that there was one, there's one I'm going to have to call me.

[25:20] Okay, that's down. I mean, I'm not sure if it's city year or not, so whenever they're in thought to them.

[25:25] Okay. Thank you.

[25:28] So all I was going to say was that Charlotte, I don't know if it's time again coming up

[25:34] for a spot at Lampon.

[25:36] I just wanted to say something like that, but it did make me think, because someone had said

[25:40] recently about how good it was to work with the Arborist's office and how they didn't really

[25:49] know about the Arborist in general, and then it raised in my mind since focom has been doing

[25:57] more about highlighting different city functions or city personnel that if we were to potentially do

[26:05] something around spotted lantern fly, that it could be a good opportunity for cars to kind of

[26:13] potentially have a spot on the, what is, you know, what is the work of the artist's office or

[26:19] one should people be contacting you about city trees, for example, because this person seemed to say

[26:25] they kind of didn't realize, but they should have been doing with them, they found that they

[26:30] should be in contact with you, but they wouldn't have really gone about to otherwise,

[26:33] like those sorts of considerations that if they're some, some legal kind of bring awareness

[26:40] and do it within that, for both, you know, overall effort of maintaining our treaties and maintaining

[26:47] the free isn't, from really caring for trees, I don't know. Well, I'm surprised to hear that

[26:53] is when a switler and black first came through my number of email,

[26:58] we're kind of sort of accidentally, unintentionally,

[27:02] maybe put on the flyer, and that's all I did all day

[27:06] was what an email was.

[27:08] I was like, oh, I was like, oh, what's going on?

[27:09] I found it on social media.

[27:10] And I was like, you got to take this to me.

[27:12] Yeah, well, I think this was unrelated to switler and length.

[27:15] You know, I was like, I mean, I didn't think that you're like,

[27:17] I was just thinking, is there an opportunity

[27:19] that if we're going back into that season

[27:21] that we could mash it up to a broader awareness effort

[27:26] around trying to maintain like a healthy,

[27:29] tweaking a folder, the work of the hardware

[27:31] system's office and connection with that sort of effort.

[27:35] So a public education can be more broadly

[27:38] attached to whatever we do with, you know,

[27:41] spotting spotting point in terms of why.

[27:43] OK.

[27:44] Charlie, are you still interested in changing up that slide?

[27:47] Totally.

[27:48] Cool.

[27:48] Yeah.

[27:49] just I have the guidelines for the city council go back and review those and make it it's

[27:57] probably transfer it to like an echo photo of them maybe you know okay cool that's a great

[28:03] and now I'll both of you planning to continue on the report your commission next year yeah

[28:09] Yes, I think I think it's cool.

[28:12] It's nice to talk.

[28:13] It's very safe at that.

[28:15] Okay, great.

[28:17] Well, I think Erin, actually, if you were sliding this right into this discussion of our 20s,

[28:21] it's priorities.

[28:22] I think one other thing I did want to say is that I wanted to have a, give you more of an update about the,

[28:32] the approved, re-approved code, Virginia code, dealing with trees for placement of trees and

[28:39] transmission of trees and trials in our conversation about that.

[28:44] It changed a lot of things around and it's kind of a little bit confusing.

[28:48] So we're hoping that he and I may be sending lectures on,

[28:51] they can have a conversation about it first before I start.

[28:55] A lot of them are not about it and we're getting any of it right.

[28:57] I don't think it affects us, yes.

[29:01] I don't think there's anything that we can pull out of it new.

[29:06] but the two things that are important, there's one, two, look, two things that are important is that they

[29:13] all of 15.2-961 and 15.2-961.1, the replacement trees, the conservation trees,

[29:22] both of them have the same designated requirements for canopy coverage per site. So it goes

[29:36] from 10% tree canopy for business commercial,

[29:39] all the way up to 30% tree canopy for residential sites,

[29:44] which two units are fewer, per acre.

[29:47] So that they did normalize that

[29:51] that breadth of numbers between the two,

[29:55] before it was the first part,

[29:57] and I see it's one only when I'm sure you can see it.

[30:00] And the second part of conservation when all we have to do is represent now those have been over 30% but it's per few minutes per acre and that's all defined in here. And then the other thing was, is that we were hoping, but it didn't happen was that they allowed in the code previously only the city of Williams for was allowed to do 10%

[30:28] 20 mcx 3 can't be coverage in 10 years. And that's because that was amended to just only

[30:40] a well then back in 2006 or something. The code first came out. It was more open than that,

[30:49] which is I think is why we have our 20% or in 10 years piece. So that got changed. So they changed

[30:57] But this time in under conservation are only allowing towns to be able to do the same thing, not cities.

[31:06] So Williamsburg is still in exception, but now towns such as Vienna can do 20% in 10 years instead of 20 years.

[31:16] Who is the logic for towns versus cities?

[31:20] Well, first of all, we know that Vienna had been petitioning the state legislature at least a decade or more.

[31:27] I don't know how long because they had it, but we had it at first, and then today's changed,

[31:33] and so they went and adopted the whole code, which gave them 20% 20 years if they had to do,

[31:38] but they had petitioned to ask to be able to give it back. So now they gave them back, but then they gave it to anybody else.

[31:46] So I don't know. I thought, I don't know why. I think these things. I can't think of it.

[31:52] We're kind of sort of rationally normalized all of this, and it would make a lot of sense.

[31:56] And then we just apply to everybody. And I'm like, no, they changed it. So, but we, but

[32:00] Amy, they just have the 20% and 10 years. And we're also almost just that it's the, like,

[32:07] the code issues that we are always concerned about, right, changing things and whether we're

[32:12] going to trigger going into them more relaxed standard by doing things rather than having hours

[32:19] alone and then not having to. Well, I mean, I mean, because I guess a couple of towns got

[32:24] isn't we already have it. That's right. The previous, I mean, the reason we haven't acted on any

[32:29] things because the previous mission is to have a Korean, if we do anything in anything, will

[32:35] we trigger something and DQ ever comes after us and says, no, if you're going to go ahead and

[32:41] adopt us and adopt us and adopt this, technically, you have to adopt a cook. But you have to just

[32:45] go back and do that and go to the regular, you know, whatever. Right. I don't know if that's really

[32:51] the real reason, but it just felt like that was like you kept holding on and holding out to see

[32:56] what was going to change, because we knew it was going to change. So at any rate, at this moment,

[33:02] we're not necessarily impacted, I don't think. It's not a trials that may just be that

[33:08] the code we have now might need some administrative changes to make sure, because everything that we

[33:13] do now follows under conservation and not, and not replace them anymore. So I don't get it,

[33:21] but I was hoping maybe Cindy might have, yeah, I suspect. So I didn't say, yeah, I mean,

[33:27] Cindy, yeah. Well, yeah, maybe it has some insights, but I know that Cindy in, I don't know,

[33:32] now I wanted to argue on one of the dream. Yeah. I mean, dream meetings, maybe excuse me,

[33:37] meeting and that's the regular meeting on plans to do sort of a readout of the legislative

[33:46] session. Okay, and is working with Sally in the sort of anticipation of that. Okay, what's

[33:53] a priority being those things that take effect as of July 1 given like all the different activities.

[34:00] So, okay, so yeah, so those are the types of effect in what Cindy, yeah, what readouts there may be

[34:05] That was the long way of saying I wasn't going to go into the long way to go into the long way to go into the long way to go into.

[34:17] So yes, I see we'll see we can understand anymore because I don't I don't want us to go down that rabbit hole again, if there's really nothing from that we can wrap on to this moment.

[34:30] But we should at least be aware of what's happening and be able to, you know, speak to what

[34:37] if we have to, if somebody asks us why we're not doing extra loud to quote, like, well,

[34:43] because there's really our right now. So anyway, okay, our next discussion will be on our

[34:50] 2026 prayer weeks. I thought this was a perfect time for us to take a look at them again after

[34:57] for our big success in getting.

[35:00] I'm getting that piece of code left slightly new forward in the city for commercial properties and history canopy.

[35:08] Go back and look to see what we have said. You wanted to try to accomplish and get a sense from any of you.

[35:16] We still have them prioritized. We get a sense from any of you on how we might move forward with some of these.

[35:25] or we prioritize how to be shuffle our priorities

[35:28] if you think certain things are

[35:31] risen in importance.

[35:34] Just basically on the general discussion on where we are

[35:36] and what you guys think we should do.

[35:39] You can do it, you can do it, you can work on how to light.

[35:42] Work on it.

[35:46] I'm afraid I did not have time to.

[35:48] Okay, too.

[35:49] Okay, I'm busy to sleep.

[35:52] Tim, what do you think?

[35:53] I think I was a nice inner thing.

[35:56] You've worked well and it's never good

[35:57] I mean, more of a but sort of resource dependent, and you know, even in years with sort of a budget surplus we have, you know, we've been invited to this isn't a wish list, and then we've gotten none of that right tonight. So, I mean, sent us a mystery for me.

[36:14] I think one of the things I'm sorry, I don't know what I'm going to think that we were talking about in even recent appointments, kind of committee conversations with potential for people's degree commission candidates was yeah, obviously like things are resources dependent and budget dependent, but you know where places Charles for example is seeing like that we might be able to do

[36:44] things with increasing like fees, right? Like we just went through a review of the permits fees and

[36:50] hadn't increased them for like over a decade for something like that to do more. And so they

[36:56] ended up kind of having 30% increases on average. Like they brought them down in certain areas and

[37:02] they went up in other areas and brought them into to be, you know, more similar to the surrounding

[37:11] jurisdictions were, and so like those sorts of things where if we have updates to urban

[37:17] portrait policies that just like when we confronted, well, what does it mean to impose a fee?

[37:24] For someone taking down like the branches and is it high enough or does it correspond to

[37:30] look what the current costs of things are? That might be, you know, like the place to look at

[37:35] as, yeah, it shouldn't depend on the budget, it's more of a.

[37:40] It's like, it's a bit of a misunderstanding.

[37:41] Yeah, so we just increased the fees as part of this year's.

[37:45] There's some way to direct any, you know, share that revenue to.

[37:50] No, so the purpose of the permits fees like are in the permit fee like reserve and so it tends to pay for people who are

[37:56] and what's the link-a-shell team and stays part of that work, but but it is something that

[38:05] the city has looked at, you know, and looking at different these schedules and I've raised

[38:09] with the City Manager's office in terms of other places, including coming out of like that

[38:14] tree appeal, um, is it an appropriate time given that we're looking at other things and whether

[38:19] the bees are outdated and don't reflect the current cost of things, but as it sounds

[38:24] and we should be looking at, but these are, I don't know, so, you know, so what the enforcement

[38:31] mechanisms are, Charles, like, then, exist, whether the penalties are, what they are, whether

[38:38] the B schedules, cover, or what the costs of things are, like, those are things that we might

[38:44] want to look at, just to update, even though, I don't know, you know, marginal impact if any

[38:50] what actually happens. And then I think in those interviews, we were also talking, you know, about things like, this is not going to spend money right now to go out and hire a consultant to develop an urban forestry management plan.

[39:07] But, you know, it may make sense to still collect the management plans that have been done from like surrounding jurisdictions and see what's in there.

[39:17] the MD did something pretty recently, and other jurisdictions have similar plans and so there

[39:24] may be things that make sense to put on an agenda and say, let's vote the ML, let's

[39:30] pull City of Fairfax and see when their plans look like how much of this would actually

[39:35] need to be updated or what is the benefit of something like this that you're backing so that

[39:42] you know, we're able to kind of present that information in terms of the value of an urban forestry,

[39:49] management plan and a way that doesn't feel as like extra act for,

[39:52] why wouldn't we spend money different this, or how can we piggyback on something that

[39:57] Vienna or City of Fairfax have done? So that's what we're talking about.

[40:00] It shouldn't be as costly if we're really only looking to get, like, the one chapter that matters for what we're trying to accomplish rather than, like, the seven chapter plan, where things that the chapters are straight forward.

[40:12] We shouldn't need to read you in the wheel.

[40:14] You know, suggest we plagiarize from neighbors.

[40:17] Yeah.

[40:18] Yeah.

[40:18] I'm going to be in the formation by Fairfax City Fairfax and Arlington.

[40:22] Please feel on the work.

[40:24] I remember what that was very,

[40:28] that seems sort of grandiose.

[40:33] Yeah.

[40:34] I haven't really dealt a dove in the sea of New Orleans.

[40:38] I haven't looked into Fairfax.

[40:40] They just passed it.

[40:41] I mean, they're pretty good.

[40:43] They're not, they're not in the industry.

[40:45] So they all just feel like we're similar.

[40:47] But I mean, I'm just like, right?

[40:49] Like it's sort of an action, you know, from meetings that you can say,

[40:53] let's pull to with these, let's introduce them and meeting between meeting.

[40:57] I mean, we could kind of look at it and see what we think is a value of it.

[41:01] And what would we want, you know, to try to incorporate that's lacking from our practices as value out into the exact amount able to.

[41:09] right, where it is in a like, let's get City Council to try it out, give us money or

[41:14] adopt the idea of doing an urban forestry management plan. So it's like a plan light that

[41:19] you can play for us.

[41:21] I'm sorry, just to declare by the fees that are being reconsidered or what fees. Oh, the

[41:27] fees that we just, yeah, the fees that we just increased were most of the permit, the other

[41:36] new documentation that's been happening is the tree canopy assessment plans. That's what you

[41:43] can see from many different jurisdictions. We've done one company because as far as I can tell

[41:51] and I think there are a lot of those expensive because they just try to do a general understanding

[41:56] of your tree can't be and then give you got to mind on how to increase it and all that kind of stuff.

[42:02] But those are, it seems to me, those documents were being used

[42:07] in more public ways, because people could then see them

[42:11] as something like a validation or non-validation

[42:15] about what's happening with chief,

[42:17] as opposed to the management plan,

[42:18] which is a much broader session

[42:21] about all kinds of parts of the early morning industry.

[42:24] For the process and love of love,

[42:27] it's something that is important, like,

[42:29] this right here. So yeah, that's not bad. Yeah, we do a little bit of research and try to

[42:36] just compile. I'm going to put it in your report. We'd like to see what kind of information

[42:42] I'd like to see to me. I'm sure I can can chat just to this out for us. Yeah, no.

[42:56] I thought you could

[42:58] But you're not sure, as far as, I think, it's not very hard for you.

[43:09] You know, there's a 17-by-first century kind of base.

[43:13] I don't know.

[43:14] That's how you feel like you have the trees.

[43:17] Yeah, so the system plans, because they're not management plans.

[43:23] They don't have to go through the public process.

[43:25] mental plan is to go to the public. And that's a whole other thing. Right. Yeah, and that is the

[43:32] lift that has a thing that's often. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That handles the follow-up

[43:38] close to the city of Fairfax. I guess kind of in the newsletters, it works out in the food

[43:41] and I talk with fair arborist and she is like, yeah, I mean, they're all the community events

[43:47] like public outreach. I mean, that is the list. Yeah. The text, the substance, they, you know,

[43:54] that's pretty easy to lift, but it's all the outreach stuff. I might see it,

[44:02] but let me ask

[44:03] around about some outreach stuff with some folks that do a lot. Because I remember honestly

[44:09] that there's, they did pop-ups at all. The farmer's markets, I mean they just did all kinds of

[44:15] extra communities stuff, but they have a bigger staff, you know. Over junior villagers don't like

[44:21] There are just one mundane audience, you know, the team lead for that, he's doing a key kind of important kind of all over the place.

[44:34] Different times, different communities, you know, communication.

[44:39] So he's...

[44:40] I might be able to use that model and just see what happens.

[44:46] Okay, well, I think if we could maybe do some research for you and and provide, like, well, you're so what might be nice, if we could get this going, this would be, this will be something that we heard.

[45:03] So, just as a way to validate and support your efforts as well as to see what's out there.

[45:13] I mean, I'm going to talk to them, so I have some data on week and then, yeah, the only other thing I would say in that Charles, you may be able to provide update on is, yeah, any sort of cross jurisdictional work that

[45:31] may be continuing to do when we can get in on it.

[45:35] I know, you know,

[45:36] flooding, for example, with Northern Virginia.

[45:39] Regional commission, where these kind of issues come up,

[45:42] what's true canopy you're talking about,

[45:44] right should there be, you know, fly over.

[45:48] And then you know, we just get incorporated into it

[45:51] as opposed to having to do our own thing.

[45:54] And we're trying to kind of understand regional needs.

[45:58] that we are not just, I'm, I'm places in the budget to take this on for ourselves.

[46:06] Yeah, and there it is. Yeah, I'm part of the Trudecan piece of committee for cog.

[46:11] And so we're having a lot of discussions about that.

[46:13] We're trying to get our action items that we're going to, our recommendations, my apologies.

[46:18] Our recommendations kind of end up then ready to shoot off the Red Sipsies.

[46:24] Oh, good.

[46:24] in progress. Yeah. So maybe my July and no. I think that is a joy or always. I think it is the

[46:31] deadline. I think I should probably just had a meeting with them this week. Okay. Yeah, I'll

[46:39] give you a better time on next. Okay. Okay. Excellent. That's it. You all. Thanks, Jack.

[46:48] a nice funeral day. Thank you.

[46:52] Hope to see you at the freezing and I'm really excited to hear that.

[46:55] You're not away, so we can't do that.

[46:56] Whether holds. Yes, right. Bye.

[47:01] Okay.

[47:02] Okay.

[47:02] All right.

[47:04] Okay.

[47:04] So it sounds like there are the priority of looking into some of these different policies and just familiarising

[47:10] ourselves and maybe being able to make some kind of a comment to you about,

[47:14] I think this looks good, this looks good, you know, we use any of this that will help with our movement towards making a strong argument for the first way to plan that this is the kind of stuff we'd like to see.

[47:31] This is kind of stuff where we already can get, you know, we already have it out there, we just need to put it into a better public format.

[47:43] And I think, too, for me, I feel like Aaron started with a discussion about this by the

[47:49] magnify.

[47:51] Yeah, you know, how do we increase public outreach on things, just sort of generally the,

[47:57] I know we've talked about it this once, that sometimes you'll send stuff to come, you know,

[48:03] particularly you do a lot of sending things to communications folks about RBA, there was a bunch

[48:09] of stuff on that.

[48:10] But generally, is there a way to help you figure out sort of a tolerization of different issues that we just kind of come to a agreement that these are the things that if it's possible for them to include.

[48:24] in a their social media, or any of the news letters, or whatever, because they're popping out.

[48:33] It's time to water your trees. There's time to do this, or now's a good time to plant, or,

[48:38] you know, whatever sets of things that I know you've done them on your own in the past,

[48:43] it's sometimes it felt like it was, oh my god, the heat advisory, so bad, but it was something

[48:49] It's all people who are, you know, is there a way for us to help you rationalize that as a form of community outreach messaging that you, because you've got to be said over and over and over again.

[49:06] That's right.

[49:07] And so I don't know that's something that will be a help to you or not.

[49:11] We'll be pretty helpful, especially from the fresh perspective.

[49:14] want to be right. It's like I'm kind of stretched in it, right? And our communications

[49:19] department is started kind of calendar. I was just, you know, they're kind of like, hey,

[49:25] it's a proclamation month, right? So they kind of reach out to different people like I will

[49:29] proclamations, are you doing what we do in private day? Hey, is this we're going to use our

[49:34] today, so you can also, for recruitment for the board's permission, right, and that was

[49:40] successful, right?

[49:41] We have candidate now, so we're, I think they're getting into that rhythm, so yeah,

[49:46] anything fresh things like, you know, what's the good summer message?

[49:49] Which could fall message, winter, you know, is a brain.

[49:52] So like, and again, that cycle was in that way I can have, like, kind of just a bank of

[49:57] ideas when they're like, hey, we're doing,

[50:00] And we just let it out for this month what best we just want that can just kind of pull from that.

[50:05] Like, what a pie that's very, very quick. Are we having a mile on the summer or are we just, you know, blazing, you know,

[50:12] hundred degrees for three weeks. So it's a bit of drought.

[50:16] Right. Yeah. Is the focus, can we go back to the archive?

[50:20] Because it's a focus on,

[50:23] or not? I can't remember the key in.

[50:25] I think they're working on that, I don't know, I don't know, for sure.

[50:32] I'm able to find them on internet archive or something maybe, which generally has a lot of stuff,

[50:40] and they also have, I don't know, internet archive. Yeah, they have like a way back,

[50:47] shame, which is helpful. So I got a lot of access to that. Why do you ask? Because I'm

[50:52] I'm thinking of just kind of go back and look and see what's been done in the rest of the last.

[50:57] Well, I'll leave.

[50:59] Just to do a spot check, like before COVID.

[51:03] Three years in the COVID and maybe just last year this year or something.

[51:07] Just to see what's come up.

[51:09] We know our base always been in there.

[51:12] But whatever, when other times of you suggested something that needed to be in there, right?

[51:18] So we know what's already been, we believe, we believe, we believe, we believe, we believe, right.

[51:25] But yeah, I think that would be kind of helpful.

[51:29] And because I feel like that's one of the things.

[51:32] It's always falls to the way sides that we're all going to, we're going to do this part of that.

[51:37] We did the part of it, but then, you know, the communication part of it is always the last piece.

[51:41] And then everybody's too tired or forget or something and you get it out somewhat,

[51:46] but not as fully as it would have been nice to have gotten out, but so it might be interesting also

[51:52] to clarify the business role. In certain things, because when I talk to some people and I

[52:00] mentioned here, of course, we'd be really like, oh yeah, you guys play in the trees.

[52:04] And they were in the tree program. I don't think we're going to do that.

[52:07] They just play in the trees and they were in the tree program.

[52:10] Yeah.

[52:11] Cheers.

[52:11] Let's get started.

[52:12] I mean, it's huge.

[52:14] But the city's always taken.

[52:16] Has always had more than 50% of that.

[52:19] All of a sudden.

[52:20] Kind of that project.

[52:21] I mean, I think the business role was ours.

[52:23] I think like very far.

[52:24] Exactly.

[52:24] Yeah.

[52:25] Because what it was that I thought.

[52:26] Right.

[52:26] That was super.

[52:27] Yeah.

[52:28] It was super.

[52:28] Yeah.

[52:28] It was super.

[52:29] Yeah.

[52:30] Yeah.

[52:40] Yeah.

[52:40] you know, articulating and talking to the homeowners of bed and doing some of that, but it was still

[52:46] the herbivore street crew or the herbivore as to when you have to go collect, find the tree that

[52:53] the person wanted, and then get the troops mounted, once the program became more of a landscaping

[53:01] company. Kind of approaches, opposed to being the whole street gets nutrients, right?

[53:08] So, yeah, so, it's from public outreach, I think, because yeah, at some point to examine that.

[53:14] It's not even that kind of understanding. Right. Right.

[53:16] I mean, it needs to be pretty simply pretty simple at the beginning, and then it got more complex.

[53:22] But more importantly, what is it now? Right. And now it's just a fox at the moment, because we don't have the capability to do it correctly.

[53:31] So yeah, but yeah, so actually I was just encouraged all of you if you have thoughts about timing on messaging that you think is important about feeling the energy and trees for the public, you know,

[53:46] didn't know to me. We'll start creating a list and that counterized list and we can

[53:53] match it with things that you know you that we need to get out and then literally a

[53:59] couple of sentences for a thing. I mean we've shorted.

[54:04] Yeah, we'll share it.

[54:06] Yeah.

[54:08] It's the words, because it's because of like, on socials, right? You know, it's kind of

[54:13] and short and sweet. It's in the focus, even those are really limited on the length of what the

[54:20] material is. I just felt the format that I guess is shown to be successful. I suppose,

[54:28] you know, it doesn't have been complicated and be a little obscure or like, you know,

[54:33] a lot of comment material has the city used for this outreach in the past. Is it so it is social media?

[54:39] You see media, the photo, the photo, the photo, the photo, the photos, the photos, the photos.

[54:45] That's basically it.

[54:48] And we look at the, it's based on graph, right?

[54:51] Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, I think that's all right.

[54:57] Yeah.

[54:57] Does the city do a newsletter or is that?

[55:00] That was the last question.

[55:01] I was so good. Yeah. I'm a redhead of kind of to... Yeah.

[55:04] I now get a threat of the grand year for a long time before I was aware of the system.

[55:09] And you just got on the heat motor far away.

[55:11] But I had to pay.

[55:13] Right. And there used to be an environment fosterage news that are that stopped around.

[55:20] I think it stopped.

[55:21] Twenty, twenty, fourteen, something like that.

[55:24] Yeah. And it was in paid for this paper.

[55:27] And then I think we did.

[55:28] I think that came out, I think that was in that

[55:32] Nils' great-grandchild.

[55:34] It was coming out of recycling or public works with your site.

[55:39] I mean, but then a lot of other stuff was in there, too,

[55:42] about trees, all of everything you could think of as in there.

[55:45] It was really nice of a little bit of a sliver,

[55:46] and then it just could be that up when she left and stuff.

[55:53] So, but all these other social media formats have also,

[55:59] So there were other places to be able to put bits of pieces, but not just that.

[56:04] There wasn't that being one, one who saw the right one.

[56:09] So yeah, there's that.

[56:10] And we've often talked about it here.

[56:12] We keep talking about, we know that there are a lot of lists of neighborhoods.

[56:17] A lot of neighborhoods have there on this serves.

[56:20] And I think we've gathered a few elements at one point.

[56:22] I know they can change, and that's why it's so hard to use those.

[56:25] You know, but people are like, these are great because like, all my people get this, you know, and I'm like,

[56:31] that's wonderful. And I don't remember if there's any community development organization that tries to keep track of that kind of stuff.

[56:42] You know, I don't know.

[56:43] I just doubt it.

[56:44] Yeah.

[56:44] It was some conflict.

[56:46] So we were a little stopped sometimes because we know there are other ways that people can get information and they like to get it from their each other.

[56:55] If we could get it to one person, they'd share it, but we don't think they're able to do a few like that.

[57:03] So yeah, there's the posture to this press or the other posture.

[57:08] I don't think it's independent.

[57:11] Yeah, I mean, those could I don't know.

[57:15] Yeah, those could be worthwhile.

[57:17] We did have Sandy Tarpenian who was running the National Railway Federation liaison

[57:23] the city's program. She and I helped her a little bit. She had been editing on what

[57:30] were two different articles on environmental issues and was getting those to be the independent

[57:39] of the news press thing. So, and that she's able to sustain that maybe for two years or so, but

[57:48] was a lot of work. Getting people to write stuff out, editing it, getting it to the time and all that.

[57:55] I don't know how wide it. Yeah, and so they, you know, they were happy to have them and stuff,

[58:01] but it was like we need, and the students at the high school wanted to even provide stuff to the

[58:06] boss, which is for us, too, on like tips, you know, environmental tips with different things.

[58:13] I don't know where that went. Because again, you have to have somebody who's able to like keep

[58:17] the schedule and make sure it gets done and all that kind of stuff.

[58:22] So I don't think they got getting to be those with your work,

[58:25] which was that total of our two.

[58:27] Yeah, weekly content is challenging.

[58:29] Oh, challenging.

[58:31] Yeah.

[58:31] In the high school, do we think there's any way that we can try to do outreach

[58:36] to the rules of the song because I know that like my mom teaches first grade

[58:41] and she teaching her kids about plants and other,

[58:45] like so enthusiastic, they're like, you know,

[58:48] point yourself out on playground to earn all that.

[58:51] So I feel like that, you know, we, we should,

[58:54] good be a focus, kids, really like to tell people stuff.

[58:58] Yeah, so that's also the school about once a year.

[59:02] So like there is some idea of connections to the teachers, actually.

[59:05] I just spoke with a woman on the phone, the other day,

[59:08] my reputation receives me.

[59:10] is whenever students told the teacher all about me

[59:15] and she actually had a question about what you're

[59:17] under property.

[59:19] So yeah.

[59:19] So this work has come first that we're going to

[59:22] kind of like a vast majority of years.

[59:24] So right.

[59:25] We had everything we could do some outreach with the school.

[59:28] Yeah.

[59:28] Well, I would like to do more.

[59:30] But just resource-wise.

[59:33] Yeah.

[59:34] Yeah.

[59:34] There's going to be like getting a staff right

[59:37] for the last so over to my school's yeah I mean or in the morning announcements

[59:45] in one of the announcements I know I should want to yeah I know definitely

[59:48] log people be those and just my Daniel have outdoor classroom still or no

[59:54] oh well that's okay I don't think so that's very disappointing it's been a while so this

[59:58] I have the nerve but yeah

[1:00:00] That was good. It was very good. It was very good, and very, I think, good, especially for kids for our, I passed the day. But yeah, that was the environmental group, the kids that I could probably do, or the operator for the last year.

[1:00:15] Yeah, there's so much going on. Yeah, there is.

[1:00:18] Yeah, there is. I don't know how many students are participating right now, but they've been managing to keep it kind of going.

[1:00:27] So yeah, some of that and it's another group of people that is just sending them information could be helped.

[1:00:33] Yeah, so it's been one of the announcements on my screen.

[1:00:36] Well, there you go.

[1:00:39] Perfect. Perfect.

[1:00:41] There's a place.

[1:00:42] Yes. Oh, sorry.

[1:00:43] I know it's really hard to regulate regular articles.

[1:00:46] But if you have like a talent or like not an advertisement, but just like a visual future like within this time of the years,

[1:00:53] which I need to do this, like a full article.

[1:00:56] Yeah.

[1:00:56] I feel like that would be like doing that,

[1:00:59] like almost putting the same post to you on social media.

[1:01:03] I think that and the news perhaps would be.

[1:01:05] Yeah. Well, that's exactly what the students had

[1:01:07] they were going to do and then they just make it together.

[1:01:09] And then we were going to discuss the free space

[1:01:12] for, you know, in public service and other stuff.

[1:01:14] At the time, we were working with one of the staff writers,

[1:01:19] who really wanted to see more environmental stuff there.

[1:01:21] And so they were willing to do this.

[1:01:25] I think you have to renegotiate that conversation with them.

[1:01:27] That's what it is, but I don't believe it on how many more.

[1:01:30] It's not quite as good as we do now.

[1:01:33] Yeah.

[1:01:33] I think free space is probably not in a reach.

[1:01:37] Oh, yeah.

[1:01:37] I don't think it's something that something should for us,

[1:01:40] you know, somebody.

[1:01:42] Yeah, I don't.

[1:01:43] I mean, there is, of course, the library.

[1:01:45] And I mean, there's a lot in there.

[1:01:46] But library, there are always things to work.

[1:01:49] Yeah, that's right.

[1:01:50] That's right.

[1:01:51] So, okay, so that I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I throw that out because Aaron, you know, mentioned the spot of my offline. How do we, you know, I thought, well, maybe we could do a little brainstorming if everybody could think of some specific things that they, they themselves as homeowners or as just interested in trees and want to know, is this the time to do this, you know, it would be nice to know that and maybe make up a calendar of topics with few sentences for topic.

[1:02:20] And then you can double check it with what you think is also important, and then you can give it to a communications.

[1:02:26] Yeah, no, I mean, that's a guidance, you know?

[1:02:29] Yeah, absolutely, but just have like a good seasonal list, yeah, I mean, I can just, yeah, but all of the students, you know,

[1:02:36] where you need to say messenger every year, when that always takes an amazing, is don't plan.

[1:02:41] Don't put plants in before mother's days, get out of crops, right?

[1:02:44] like something that somebody that's somewhere there.

[1:02:47] Oh, I should be.

[1:02:49] I don't play there.

[1:02:50] Washington, it was been running the top gantests in the DC area,

[1:02:54] you know, annual basis for like 40 years.

[1:02:57] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[1:02:58] And that's for restaurants.

[1:02:59] And it's home, either way.

[1:03:00] You know, yeah, that's stuff.

[1:03:02] We should play it every year.

[1:03:04] Yeah, oh, right over again.

[1:03:05] Yeah, he's out with viable.

[1:03:07] Totally bad.

[1:03:07] And I really feel like our communication departments

[1:03:09] were really kind of feeling that by the gazelle is.

[1:03:14] And if the message is still relevant,

[1:03:16] I mean, why try to make a fresh message every year.

[1:03:19] I'm telling that.

[1:03:20] You have it like really good in photography.

[1:03:22] We use the false flush to land or flies.

[1:03:25] I'm going to bummer.

[1:03:26] Yeah.

[1:03:28] I guess we're not going to touch that one.

[1:03:30] But it's a happy day.

[1:03:33] We have plant trees that's been clashed for you.

[1:03:37] Yes.

[1:03:37] You get trees from Harvard,

[1:03:38] You know, beef is at the farmer's market and plant them now.

[1:03:42] Yes, I'm telling.

[1:03:43] Cries and trees.

[1:03:46] So there was the farmer's market.

[1:03:47] There's a way to, right?

[1:03:49] You out of there.

[1:03:50] Yeah.

[1:03:51] And then, like, in a fall, like a vision of farmers for a free day,

[1:03:54] but, you know, seed collection where you can bring them in.

[1:03:56] So I think that one does kind of encourage,

[1:03:59] and also promote a period of free seed and program, right?

[1:04:02] Because I'm kind of, you know, pretty happy with it.

[1:04:05] Yeah.

[1:04:06] And then we really, can I be, and I think sometimes

[1:04:10] they're kind of, everyone's busy, so it's hard for people

[1:04:13] to come with ideas to give kind of a sense.

[1:04:15] So even though I thought, you know, it's a good idea.

[1:04:17] Well, if you just come about, it's kind of automated on a news.

[1:04:21] Yeah, and it's true that while we have all of these places that

[1:04:26] information flows, it's like there's these little interstitial spaces

[1:04:30] that the information is to get to, and it only gets there

[1:04:33] people trust the information and it's getting into that, right? And so, I mean, to go back to basics to

[1:04:42] be a platform to market or be where I'm trying to get into people that you know, living next

[1:04:48] door to you, there's a, there's a pointy announcement, right? That still applies a lot in some of this,

[1:04:55] that ultimately is environmental information,

[1:04:58] people need to feel with it.

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