Agenda
[0:02]
1. Call to Order
[1:07]
2. Moment of Reflection, Pledge of Allegiance
[2:00]
3. Swearing in of VIA Transit Chief of Police
[10:43]
4. Citizens to be Heard
[1:02:03]
6. Presentation, discussion, and Board direction on requests received from February 11, 2026 "B" Session and subsequent communications from Mayor Jones related to VIA operations and services.
[2:57:30]
5. Consent Agenda
[2:57:49]
7. Financial Updates – Monthly / Quarterly Financial Reports.
[3:09:43]
8. Proposed May 2026 Service Changes - For information, discussion, and action on the proposed service changes to be implemented in May 2026.
[3:10:16]
9. VIA Recruitment Update – For information and discussion regarding recruitment strategies.
[3:14:39]
10. *Legal Briefing
[3:14:48]
11. President & CEO Report
[3:15:51]
ATD 1. Call to Order
[3:16:07]
ATD 4. Consent Agenda
Transcript
SOURCE TRANSCRIPT
This transcript is downloaded from the source you provided but we haven't reviewed it for accuracy. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record. You can also request an AI-transcription of the audio file with the button to the left.
[0:01]
Okay. Good evening everyone. As
[0:05]
my trustees are grabbing a seat. Yes,
[0:09]
it is now 5:01 pm and I'd like to call to order the february 24th,
[0:14]
a td board meeting. Actually,
[0:20]
we're gonna do, we're
[0:24]
gonna call to order the february 24th via board meeting. Let's begin with roll call
[0:32]
vice chair gomez. Present. Secretary malone. Present
[0:37]
assistant secretary cooper. Present. Trustee flores present.
[0:41]
trustee tu will, trustee rena present. Trustee
[0:46]
deon. Present. Trustee howard present trustee
[0:50]
fernandez present and trustee rete present welcome
[0:55]
trustee. A to the via board of trustees.
[1:02]
all right. Uh, we do have a quorum.
[1:06]
please stand and join me in reciting the pledge of alle and the texas flag.
[1:15]
a pp of allegiance to the flag of the united states of america.
[1:19]
and to the republic for which stands? One nation,
[1:24]
underg god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all
[1:29]
honor, honors texas flag to texas.
[1:35]
they under god one.
[1:40]
yeah. Thank you. Got it? That was too cute.
[1:47]
all right. Okay. Thank you.
[1:51]
mr. Duh. Do we have any announcements? No announcements, madam chair. Thank
[1:56]
you. We'll, next,
[2:00]
move on to a special moment for us, uh, swearing in our of our via
[2:04]
transit chief of police. Um, please welcome judge william k. Shaw,
[2:09]
who will serve in vias new chief, uh, who was warren vias new chief
[2:13]
of police and transit security. Joseph richard rose. Jamal, would you like to introduce
[2:17]
both gentlemen, please? Sure. Thank you. Madam chair. The honorable
[2:21]
judge william h. Cruz shaw is a native of houston, texas. As a passion for helping people
[2:26]
in his community, the pastors reflected in his educational, professional and
[2:30]
public service pursuits. Judge shaw served his country as a yeoman,
[2:34]
second class united states navy reserves from 2003 until 2011.
[2:39]
while in reserves, shaw served in san antonio and in singapore. He graduated
[2:43]
from thurgood marshall school of law at texas southern university, he 2009,
[2:48]
and opened his own law practice in the heart of the east side of san antonio in september, 2010.
[2:53]
judge shaw was elected as city council in june of 2017, and was appointed
[2:57]
as associate judge in the 436th district court in bexar county in january of
[3:01]
2019, and was elected to the 436th district court
[3:06]
november, 2022.
[3:11]
rick? Yes, sir. Next up,
[3:15]
if we'll have, uh, you stand there, chief rose, some background on our
[3:19]
chief rose. Joseph rose is an accomplished law enforcement executive with 20 plus years
[3:23]
of progressive leadership in municipal and trans policing. Specialize in
[3:27]
building and modernizing public safety organizations, leading complex operations
[3:32]
and developing policy infrastructure and personnel systems that support accountable
[3:36]
community-centered policing. Schultz was known for his commitment to ethical
[3:40]
leadership, organizational development, and trust-based community engagement. His
[3:44]
leadership style balances operational excellence with transparency,
[3:48]
personal mentorship and strategic stakeholder partnerships. His educational
[3:53]
background includes a master's of public management from the university of maryland,
[3:57]
a bachelor of science in organizational leadership from johns hopkins university and
[4:01]
associates in criminal justice from excelsior university. He's also attended from
[4:05]
penn state university, the police executive development program, fbi, national
[4:10]
academy, session 2 81 fbi, national academy graduate.
[4:14]
and despite that, he's originally from brooklyn, new york.
[4:19]
he began his transit career as a bus operator for new york mta
[4:23]
for eight years. Uh, then he went to the world of transit policing at ada in washington, dc.
[4:28]
from that point, he progressed to municipal law law enforcement in, in, uh, boy
[4:32]
maryland, and made his way down to texas to help begin the start of the
[4:36]
capitol metro transit police department. And we're proud to have him here today. And so, at this
[4:41]
time, I'll leave you chief to, uh, be sworn in by the honorable judge
[4:45]
khaw. Thank you. Without
[4:49]
the line. Can
[4:53]
I me in the back. Good. Okay. Oh, we get 'em. We gather for
[4:57]
more than just a formal appointment. We gather to a firm commitment,
[5:02]
a commitment to service, a commitment to leadership, and the commitment to
[5:06]
the values that define public trust. The role of the transit
[5:10]
police chief carries a profound responsibility. Our tr
[5:15]
oh, okay. The role of transit police chief carries
[5:19]
a profound responsibility. Our transit system is more than buses, stations,
[5:23]
and routes. It's a lifeline of our community. It
[5:27]
protects people to opportunity, education, healthcare,
[5:32]
and one another. The chief entrusted with protecting this system
[5:36]
must lead not only with authority, but with integrity.
[5:41]
chief joseph rose, as you prepare to take this oath, you accept
[5:45]
the responsibility to uphold the highest standards of professional conduct.
[5:50]
you are called to lead with transparency, ensuring that trust between
[5:54]
law enforcement employees and the public is earned and
[5:58]
maintained. Every day, you are expected to lead with compassion,
[6:03]
recognizing that those we serve include our writers, our employees,
[6:07]
and members of our community who may be experiencing vulnerability crisis
[6:11]
and hardship. Now, please raise your right hand.
[6:16]
do you solemnly swear or affirm that you will faithfully execute the duties
[6:20]
of the office of transit police chief, that you'll support and uphold
[6:24]
the organizational policies and practices, as well as the laws of
[6:28]
this state that will perform your responsibilities with integrity,
[6:32]
transparency, and ethical practice, that you'll serve
[6:37]
our employees and our community with fairness, courage, and
[6:41]
compassion. So help you guide. Yes, I do. I do. There
[6:45]
you go. By the authority vested in me, I hereby recognize you
[6:49]
as the trans police. Congratulations, chief joseph rose.
[7:02]
trustees, uh, if you can join me, we're gonna go take a quick photo right here and recognition of
[7:06]
this momentous moment here. Thank you.
[10:03]
well, again, congratulations, chief, welcome to the team.
[10:08]
uh, I also, again, wanna welcome in joining me today, our newest
[10:12]
trustee, ms. Chris reta, uh, steward of this community,
[10:17]
lots of years of experience and wisdom, uh, that she has imparted
[10:21]
on san antonio. So we are, uh, just thrilled that
[10:25]
you have joined our board. Welcome. Thank you. Yes.
[10:34]
we got a packed house today. I I think we need to see this every, every
[10:38]
meeting. Yeah. Let's do that. . All
[10:42]
right. We have citizens to be heard next. Um, yes. I'm assuming we have a few
[10:47]
citizens who signed up. Yes, we do. We have, we have 20 individuals signed up to speak with
[10:51]
one of them. Relinquishing their time to another speaker. Very good. Thank you. We now
[10:55]
come to assistance to be heard portion of our public meeting. The board is interested in hearing
[10:59]
the comments and concerns from our patrons and citizens in san antonio bayar county area.
[11:04]
questions or comments concerning public business or policy over which the board has supervision
[11:08]
and the control may be addressed at a later date by the president, ceo and
[11:12]
or his staff. This process assures that you receive the most accurate response
[11:16]
to your question or concern. Thank you. And via appreciates you taking the time and effort
[11:20]
to share your comments with us this evening. Our first speaker
[11:24]
is mr. William hernandez.
[11:49]
uh, good afternoon, uh, chair
[11:53]
via board, mr. Herra and via staff.
[11:57]
my name is william hernandez. I'm the president of a
[12:02]
tu 6 9 4 retiree chapter, and I'm here today to speak
[12:06]
on two subjects. First, I would like to bring to your attention
[12:10]
the 10 99 irs forms that were mailed out in
[12:14]
2025. I was notified by a handful of members that
[12:18]
they did not receive their forms after advising them
[12:22]
to contact payroll. They were told to come in and pick up a copy.
[12:28]
the question arises of, you know, what happened to the original copies.
[12:36]
they, um, they've talked to, uh, postmasters and they
[12:40]
said, well, it would be sent back to payroll. So if you can have payroll
[12:44]
due, due diligence and tracking down
[12:48]
these original copies because their concerns about, um, identity theft.
[12:54]
and, um, so if you can get with them and have them get with those people,
[12:58]
we appreciate it. Secondly, um, free
[13:02]
rides for all. I was a bus driver for 39 years.
[13:08]
I've seen what happens when you open up the gates and let every wedding in
[13:13]
to ride free at a feel for the
[13:17]
homeless. I really do. But these people will come
[13:21]
and they'll just camp out on the bus all day long. And if
[13:26]
they're riding for free, there's, I mean, I don't know how you get 'em off the bus.
[13:31]
a lot of them are dealing with mental illnesses,
[13:35]
you know, and I've seen it where, you
[13:39]
know, they have a manic episode and it scares
[13:43]
the jitters out of the regular passengers that are riding the bus.
[13:49]
a lot of them, um, they leave the bus un unsanitary
[13:53]
and, you know, they'll defecate, they'll urinate, you know, I,
[13:57]
I've seen it. So a driver will have to call
[14:02]
transit police. And depending how close the transit police officer
[14:07]
is, is to the, the bus is, uh, the re the, the
[14:11]
time it takes 'em to get there. Um,
[14:23]
it is a good political talking point, but it will only de
[14:27]
delay service for regular rider.
[14:32]
I know they already have, uh, free fare for, um, college
[14:36]
students and, and elementaries and the kids, you know, and that's
[14:40]
all perfect. That's, that's fine, you know, but, um,
[14:45]
free for all, for everyone. I mean, I hope you all really consider that, or
[14:50]
not y'all, but city council. Um, thank you for your time.
[14:57]
thank you.
[15:04]
roger. Signs. I,
[15:16]
all right. My name is roger signs, and I am the pastor of south city church,
[15:20]
and we are located at 34 32 south florida street on the south side of san antonio.
[15:24]
and I made a request to have a bus stop moved, and, uh, the bus
[15:28]
stop number is 6 6 8 3 6. And the reference number for my request
[15:33]
is 5 5 6 8 4 0. My request was denied,
[15:37]
and I asked if I could appeal, and they said no. And I said, well, there's gotta be somebody I could talk to.
[15:41]
and they said, I could come here before y'all, and that's why I'm here today. The reason I made
[15:45]
my request to have a bus stop movie, because there's always a lot of homeless people
[15:49]
there, and on sunday mornings, there's a lot of trash. There's empty beer bottles, empty
[15:54]
beer cans and stuff like that. And I'm out there, you know, picking it up. But my
[15:58]
main concern is one time, one sunday morning, I went out there and I was looking, there
[16:02]
was a, a big group of people waiting for the bus. It was about eight people, something like that.
[16:06]
and, uh, the, there's a big concrete bench that's right in front of,
[16:10]
uh, the entrance into our building. We have a gate out there, right, right in front of
[16:14]
the, the, the entrance to the, to the gate. There's a big concrete bench that's part of the,
[16:18]
the bus stop, right? And, uh, there was a big group out there, and our people, the
[16:22]
congregation had to walk around them, walk into the street in order to get
[16:26]
into the gate. And my concern is that I'm afraid somebody's gonna get hit by a car or
[16:30]
something, you know? So that's why I made the request. And I wanted to ask to see, I don't know if y'all could
[16:34]
look, take a look at it again. And, uh, if y'all could move the bus stop, and I wouldn't
[16:39]
even mind if y'all could just move it to the edge of our property, but right now, the bus stop is
[16:43]
right in front of, of our building, right where the main entrance is at
[16:47]
the gate entrance. There's a big concrete bench right there, and that's where people are waiting for the bus.
[16:51]
and I just don't want anybody to get hit, you know, get into an accident or anything like that.
[16:55]
so I would like to ask y'all if y'all could take a, you know, look at that again, if that would be
[16:59]
possible. And I just thank you for your time. That's all I had for today. Thank you.
[17:04]
thank you. Our next speaker, ms. Our next
[17:08]
speaker, mr. Paul baal.
[17:20]
all right. A little weird to be on this side of the, the board table here.
[17:25]
um, madam chair board, thank you for having me. Um,
[17:29]
congratulations, chris. Um,
[17:33]
all right, well, thank you for allowing me to speak today. Uh, for those that don't know me,
[17:37]
my name is paul alua. I'm president of, uh, sera development,
[17:42]
and this year I'm serving as the chairman of the metro sa chamber.
[17:46]
um, I'm here to discuss our position on free bus fairs. One
[17:50]
of my priorities this year is proper infrastructure. Investment free fares
[17:54]
is not proper infrastructure investment. Um, so I have
[17:58]
a letter that I have written to the board that I think has been handed out to you guys.
[18:02]
I'm going to go ahead and read it for you. Um, so since its
[18:07]
inception in 1977, via metropolitan transit has been hobbled by
[18:11]
insufficient funding, rather than the full cent sales tax that
[18:15]
the texas legislator leg legislature made available to municipalities
[18:19]
for public transit. C city leaders chose to only utilize
[18:23]
a half cent back then. Our community has been playing, playing catchup
[18:27]
since. The consequence of that decision was twofold. First,
[18:31]
via, over the course of the five decades, lacked literally billions of
[18:35]
dollars in revenue that its peer cities have dedicated to public transit. Second
[18:40]
via, uh, could not receive federal grants for public transit. The
[18:45]
transit agencies across texas and across the nation received grants paid
[18:49]
for by tax dollars spent by san antonio residents
[18:53]
sent to washington dc the result was a public transit system in
[18:57]
san antonio that has struggled to meet the needs of our community over the past 10 years,
[19:02]
via has started to change this environment, most notably with the passage of prop a.
[19:06]
in 2020, the dedicated an additional one, a sales tax to the public
[19:10]
transit. That additional increment not only provided via with desperately,
[19:15]
desperately needed revenue, but it also unlocked those previously inaccessible
[19:19]
federal transit grants. As a former via trustee,
[19:23]
I know that our transit, uh, system runs a lien operation. Calling for universal free
[19:27]
fairs without providing funding puts all of that at risk. Um,
[19:32]
the metro sa chamber has been a strong supporter of the silver line, uh, including back in
[19:36]
the policy, uh, commitment to deploy a hundred million dollars in
[19:40]
advanced transportation district funds to pursue $300 million in federal grants that would make
[19:44]
the silver line a reality. Eliminating fair revenue without funding replacement
[19:49]
could place that strategy at risk by not just jeopardizing the a hundred million dollars in local investment,
[19:53]
but the $300 million that the federal government is matching as part
[19:58]
of, uh, its grant making process. The fda must confirm vias financial
[20:02]
capacity to operate the green and silver lines. And a $20 million reduction
[20:06]
in fairbox revenue without replacement funding would almost certainly put negative
[20:11]
light on our ability to operate economic mobility,
[20:15]
uh, is dependent on physical mobility. As the chair of the metros sa chamber,
[20:19]
I strongly encourage my former colleagues on the via board of trustees to continue to prioritize
[20:24]
the transformational investments vias making in a rt. Thank you.
[20:33]
always good to see a fellow trustee over here. First, meaning out door.
[20:37]
I will point out . Our next speaker,
[20:42]
rebecca vran.
[20:55]
good evening, everyone. Um, chair, vice chair, mr. President,
[21:00]
trustees. Um, I'm here to speak on item number
[21:04]
six, free fair. Um, my name is rebecca vran,
[21:08]
and I serve as the president and ceo of the south texas business partnership.
[21:13]
the mission of the south texas business partnership is to stimulate sustained
[21:17]
economic prosperity across san antonio and south texas.
[21:21]
a critical challenge in achieving that mission is mobility.
[21:26]
connecting people to opportunity and businesses to the workforce
[21:31]
via metropolitan transit has been a valued partner in
[21:35]
addressing this challenge. Vias rapid transit
[21:39]
green line, along with the planned south texas parkway
[21:44]
represent transformational investment in south san antonio.
[21:48]
the green line will connect with the existing brooks transit center,
[21:53]
enabling san antonio residents to more efficiently access jobs, healthcare,
[21:58]
education, and training opportunities throughout the city.
[22:02]
it will also better connect residents across san antonio
[22:06]
to the growing employment centers in south san antonio and south bexar
[22:11]
county rider throughout the city have consistently
[22:15]
asked for expanded mobility options and increased
[22:20]
frequency improvements. The green line is
[22:24]
designed to deliver. Given the significance of this
[22:28]
project, we would be deeply concerned about
[22:33]
any shift in priorities that could jeopardize
[22:37]
the federal grants already secured for the green line. These
[22:41]
funds were awarded based on a clear commitment and
[22:45]
plan, any departure from that commitment risks not only
[22:49]
critical funding, but also the economic momentum and public trust
[22:54]
tied to this investment. On behalf of the south texas
[22:59]
business partnership, I respectfully urge the via metropolitan transit
[23:03]
board of trustees to adhere to its
[23:07]
existing commitment to the green line, maintain its full investment
[23:11]
in the project, and continue advancing increased
[23:15]
mobility and frequency for the south san antonio
[23:19]
and south bexar county region. Thank you for your time and consideration.
[23:24]
I believe you all have a copy of on your, on your dais. Thank you very much.
[23:30]
thank you.
[23:36]
our next speaker is katie farrier.
[23:44]
she greater chamber. Okay.
[23:51]
good evening, chair, uh, board. My name is katie farrier,
[23:56]
and on behalf of the greater san antonio chamber of commerce, I came to speak about item
[24:00]
six. The greater chamber supports a strong,
[24:04]
reliable and financially sustainable public transportation system.
[24:08]
transit is economic infrastructure, connecting workers to jobs and
[24:12]
supports regional competitiveness, while framed as an affordability
[24:17]
and access measure. The proposed pilot program is a structural
[24:21]
policy change that warrants deliberate and transparent evaluation.
[24:26]
first, federal funding implications should be carefully considered,
[24:30]
even though fair revenue is not vias primary funding source, it contributes
[24:35]
to financial stability and is part of the metrics used in competitive grant
[24:39]
evaluations. And today's performance driven federal funding environment,
[24:44]
san antonio must remain strong fiscal metrics to remain
[24:48]
competitive with pure cities. Second evidence suggests
[24:52]
that ridership challenges are more closely tied to service design, including
[24:57]
frequency, reliability, travel time connectivity,
[25:01]
and safety, rather than fair levels. If the goal is increasing,
[25:05]
ridership resources may be more effectively directed toward improving
[25:09]
service quality on high demand corridors and strengthening connections
[25:14]
to major employment centers. Third, operational
[25:18]
and safety considerations matter. Via must remain a
[25:23]
mobility first system focused on connecting people to opportunity.
[25:28]
any policy change that alters usage patterns should include clearly
[25:32]
defined metrics for safety, service quality,
[25:36]
operational performance, and fiscal impact, along with transparent
[25:40]
public reporting. Finally, fiscal sustainability
[25:44]
must remain central. Eliminating fares without a dedicated revenue
[25:49]
replacement source increases reliance on sales tax and public
[25:53]
subsidy. Any funding strategy should avoid increasing the cost
[25:57]
burden on residents or employers, particularly in a period of rising
[26:02]
economic pressures. Long-term stability is essential to maintaining affordability,
[26:07]
public confidence, and business support. We stand ready to work
[26:11]
collaboratively with via and the city to ensure that any policy decision
[26:16]
strengthens not winks san antonio's long-term economic competitiveness.
[26:21]
thank you for your consideration. Thank you.
[26:29]
our next speaker is jessica palacios.
[26:44]
good evening, madam chair, members of the board. My name is
[26:48]
jessica palacios. I'm here on behalf of the san antonio hispanic chamber
[26:53]
of commerce, who represents nearly 900 member businesses, and
[26:57]
we appreciate the opportunity to speak to you today. On item number six,
[27:02]
the san antonio hispanic chamber of commerce has long supported strategic
[27:06]
investments in mobility infrastructure that strengthen workforce
[27:10]
participation, improve access to employment centers, and enhance economic
[27:15]
competitiveness. Our support has always been grounded in fiscal responsibility,
[27:20]
long-term sustainability, and the protection of funding streams
[27:25]
critical to transit operations. We understand and respect that the
[27:29]
goal of increasing access and affordability, however, we're concerned
[27:33]
of the potential risk to federal funding.
[27:38]
if federal dollars are jeopardized, the impact would extend beyond the five routes and could,
[27:42]
um, impact capital projects. Our members rely
[27:46]
on reliable transit systems to move employees to manufacturing
[27:50]
plants, healthcare facilities, hos and hospitality and tourism
[27:55]
corridors, and most importantly, um, small job
[27:59]
sites, small and micro business job sites. Um, we believe that
[28:03]
decisions of this magnitude require a clear understanding of
[28:07]
federal implications, stakeholder engagement, and long term sustainability
[28:12]
planning. Um, to kind of reverse course just a bit,
[28:16]
in 2020, our members supported
[28:20]
a, a formally adopted resolution supporting the via metropolitan
[28:25]
transit proposition a, which reallocated the one eighth sales tax
[28:29]
to, to via, and our position has not changed. Um,
[28:34]
I wanna echo what, what members have already stood
[28:38]
up here to say that we are in full support in collaboration
[28:42]
efforts with via and the city of san antonio. Thank you so
[28:46]
much. Thank you.
[28:51]
our next speaker is mr. Robert garza.
[29:15]
good evening trustees. I'm robert garza, 22 year bus operator,
[29:19]
currently president of a tu local 6 9 4. I'm here to discuss
[29:23]
our concerns with free fare for all. Removing fares can increase overall
[29:27]
ridership, increased conflicts, higher rates of verbal abuse,
[29:32]
greater risk of physical assaults, more on board disturbances, delay
[29:36]
of service, and will affect our employee retention. When the bus becomes free,
[29:41]
the respect for the service and the person's providing it drops by opening
[29:45]
the doors to everyone without exception, we lose the ability to protect our
[29:49]
passengers from those who aren't there to travel, but are only there to cause trouble.
[29:53]
you can't put a price on safety, but you certainly shouldn't trade it away for,
[29:57]
for a political talking point. City hall should focus on fixing real issues
[30:02]
in our city, like housing and mental health, rather than try to solve a problem that
[30:06]
does not exist. By eliminating fares, our operators, maintenance
[30:10]
employees, and rider deserve better. This is a rare occasion where labor and management
[30:14]
are 100% on the same page board members.
[30:18]
our safety is in your hands. We respectfully ask that you do not allow this
[30:22]
program to move forward. Thank you. Thank
[30:26]
you.
[30:31]
our our next speak. Our next speaker is amalia soto, and
[30:35]
he has had time, uh, yielded to him by gilbert les.
[30:41]
good evening via trustees, mr. Herrera and mr. Brown. First
[30:45]
and foremost, I'd like to thank all the a two members and the families that are here today. They truly are the
[30:49]
backbone of this company.
[30:58]
my name is amal soto. I'm the a tu 6 9 4 treasurer business
[31:02]
agent. But more importantly, I've been a bus operator for 38 years.
[31:06]
I'm here today to echo what mr. Garza just mentioned concerning free fares. Eliminating
[31:10]
fa eliminating fares is a bad idea, bad business from the negative,
[31:15]
bad business from the negative effect it can have from a financial standpoint, at the safety
[31:20]
and to the safety issues that will arise from the impact of free fares. As
[31:24]
far as the negative effect that will, that will have the, uh,
[31:29]
will have with the company. That's mr. Heda and mr. Brown's job.
[31:33]
but as far as the safety implications that free fares can have, I can
[31:37]
speak on this because a few years ago during the pandemic via was
[31:41]
offering free fares. Many of us experienced a negative effect that free fares
[31:46]
had during that time. Bus operator assaults and disturbances increased,
[31:50]
and that had a snowball effect and caused issues with delay of service and just overall
[31:54]
quality of service in general. Our passengers lost reliability service
[31:58]
due to all of this in general. Uh, our passengers lost
[32:03]
reliability service due to all of this, not just reliable service on the buses, but at
[32:07]
the transit centers too. There was overcrowding and cleanings issues
[32:11]
at the transit stations. The maintenance employees were having a hard time keeping the
[32:15]
facilities safe and clean. Then came the employee turnover. Our
[32:19]
workforce started loo looking elsewhere for work because their safety had been compromised
[32:23]
and their families wanted them home safely. But vias making
[32:28]
progress and we're in a better place now. Via is increasing its workforce to satisfy demand,
[32:32]
and our ridership is increasing. Again. We're adding new service such as
[32:36]
the new rapid, green and silver line. We're excited
[32:40]
that this will create new jobs and opportunities for our community. In
[32:45]
addition, morale is also going up due to these new opportunities. So we don't wanna
[32:49]
go backwards. The value of reliable service only costs a dollar 30, which
[32:53]
is one of the lowest faires in the nation for a major city. But that, that dollar
[32:57]
30 for a bus ride shows that the patron has some skin in the game
[33:01]
and holds them accountable when they ride. So trustees, please
[33:06]
consider the safety of our passengers and employees when making our, when making
[33:10]
your decision. And remember, reliable serves is much better than free service.
[33:14]
thank you.
[33:24]
thank you. Our next speaker is mr. Jd salinas,
[33:43]
madam chair and trustees, thanks for having me and thanks for welcoming
[33:48]
me. To, to your chamber. That's good evening. My name's jd
[33:52]
salinas. I'm with at and t. I'm the vice president of external affairs. I've
[33:56]
been here for, for a bit. And thank you for the opportunity, opportunity to speak.
[34:00]
I'm here today to respectfully oppose a proposal to fund the
[34:04]
free pilot program and using any kind of tax, any
[34:08]
type of revenue. Let me start by saying we understand
[34:13]
and respect the goal, improving mobility and affordability for riders,
[34:17]
but public transit is important for workforce access
[34:21]
and regional competitiveness. But the question before you
[34:26]
is not only whether fair free rides or a worthwhile concept,
[34:30]
the question is also whether the proposed funding mechanism is
[34:34]
appropriate, sustainable, and fair to san,
[34:40]
any consumer tax is worth is the wrong tool because
[34:45]
it increases cost on households subject to multiple federal,
[34:49]
state, and local taxes already being paid.
[34:53]
adding another local tax effectively creates quadruple
[34:57]
taxation, and the result is higher. Monthly bills from
[35:02]
san antonio household and small businesses, taxing
[35:06]
san antonios in the name of increasing affordability is counterintuitive.
[35:11]
a six month pilot offering free fair service on
[35:15]
five routes may be well-intentioned, but if it is funded through
[35:19]
consumer taxes, shifts the burden to san antonio residents and households, including those
[35:24]
who may never ride the bus at all. Simply
[35:28]
put, this proposal does not eliminate cost for sanitary residents.
[35:32]
it just re re relocates them onto monthly household bills.
[35:37]
and if long-term success requires a permanent tax stream, then it isn't
[35:41]
truly a pilot. Instead, it's a policy change
[35:46]
with lasting cost implications for san antonio households
[35:50]
with san with. If the city and via want to evaluate fair free
[35:54]
services, we encourage funding options that do not increase the burden for
[35:59]
every household in san antonio. For those reasons, we respectfully oppose
[36:03]
adopting, expanding any consumer facing tax and quadruple taxing
[36:08]
hard work in san antonio's to fund this pilot project project.
[36:12]
thank you for your time and consideration. Thank you again for having me.
[36:21]
thank you. Our next speaker is diana amador
[36:25]
luna.
[36:36]
this one? Yes. Okay. Hello everyone. Thank
[36:40]
you for letting me talk for a little bit. I have
[36:44]
so much to say. So I have been with via
[36:49]
going in this june for eight years.
[36:53]
as much as I loved my job at greyhound lines, I sh I tell myself
[36:57]
I should have been here years ago because via is a great company.
[37:02]
I have great coworkers, I have met a lot of friends here. Via is
[37:06]
a good company. It has great benefits, great insurance, and
[37:10]
of course the good 4 0 1. I could tell you stories all
[37:14]
night long, but I don't have more than three minutes. So
[37:18]
I did pick my top three stories to tell you whether
[37:22]
they were paying passengers or not paying passengers. I have
[37:27]
been threatened to be cut up in a thousand pieces. Sapd
[37:31]
had to be called out to cadillac, and it is spelled like this cadillac
[37:35]
'cause it's short for kelly and lackland. Um,
[37:40]
I had been also, when I was driving the 26th
[37:44]
route, when I had just finished coming over the bridge, alamo jones, bill miller's,
[37:49]
my bus was surrounded by unmarked cars, doors opened
[37:54]
us marshals, came out with assault weapons. Little to, I
[37:58]
was scared to death. I didn't know what was going on. I thought for a minute they were coming after me 'cause
[38:02]
I had like maybe five passengers on my bus. Little did I know
[38:06]
I had two fugitives on my bus. They said they had been keeping it on my bus.
[38:11]
um, another one is where I was driving the 1 0 2, late at night. I was almost
[38:15]
done with my route. I was at pleasanton, the military. I had 15 minutes left to get
[38:19]
to brooks. When somebody starts breaking my fur box, just
[38:23]
breaking it, he was angry. Starts kicking the mirror on the port primo,
[38:27]
starts kicking my door. Had to call sapd. I was late
[38:31]
getting home for two hours. That's okay. 'cause we get late pay. But I can see
[38:36]
my time is finishing. I have been spit on, yelled
[38:40]
at, cussed at. I have been, um, had windows broken,
[38:44]
doors broken. I had somebody pay for somebody that did not have their fare on the 88
[38:49]
route, only to start jumping up and down, having the bus violently
[38:53]
shake because he said he was the son of god. I have had people
[38:57]
try to ju use their jail card as free. Fair.
[39:02]
yes, we do have free fairs in honor of ms. Rosa parks.
[39:06]
december 1st of last year was the day that we honored her for free. Faires
[39:10]
fia came out with a new program, free fairs for children 12 and eight.
[39:15]
I wanted to tell you that this is my schedule, which is a schedule for
[39:19]
this. I try to keep it on time because I have my regular passengers
[39:24]
and I have my irregular passengers. So I wanted to
[39:28]
tell you that all the, all the bus drivers
[39:32]
here, extra board and regular passengers, they start coming at three 15
[39:36]
in the morning. So you, you do the math, they're probably waking up
[39:40]
at two o'clock in the morning to be here to get the routes running. Please
[39:45]
do not have free fare. It causes a lot of problems. I'm echo echoing everything
[39:49]
what robert and amalia said. Oh, by the way, amalia 36 years.
[39:54]
safety. Alia, where are you?
[40:00]
36 years.
[40:04]
that's my friend, my coworker. Thank. Alright, diane,
[40:13]
thank you. The next speaker is georgina galong
[40:17]
or kalo. Am I pronouncing that right?
[40:24]
she wanted to speak on route number two.
[40:29]
all right. She, she might have left. Um, our next speaker is
[40:33]
barbara stock.
[40:45]
if I hit it, I hit it.
[40:50]
okay. Am I close enough now? Yes. Hello everyone.
[40:54]
I know it's been a hard week. Um, the reason why I came tonight is
[40:58]
to tell you that I appreciate the service so much.
[41:03]
I know about the, what we're talking about.
[41:07]
I have been on a regular bus just once or twice and experienced
[41:12]
that for myself. But, um, via trans
[41:16]
is a wonderful service. Okay? Without you,
[41:21]
I don't have my independence to go anywhere or do
[41:25]
anything. So I want you to know how much I appreciate
[41:30]
it and my family or my friends that live nowhere
[41:34]
near me whatsoever. Thank you for your service.
[41:39]
we all have issues, but we can all work together and get
[41:43]
things accomplished. Thank you for your time. And
[41:47]
sometimes the buses do run early, sometimes they run late.
[41:51]
and I anticipate that. Thank you very much.
[41:58]
thank you. Our next speaker is sina calvin,
[42:08]
can I make it?
[42:18]
good evening trustees. Um, I had a big, long thing written
[42:22]
down because of the number two and I, but I still
[42:27]
wanted to come and, uh, thank bob cuomo for helping
[42:31]
me get my concerns. Um, elevated thank mr. Herrera
[42:36]
for hearing those concerns, not only mine, but others
[42:40]
that have been expressed and for pulling that from the agenda
[42:44]
and giving us another bit of time to take a
[42:48]
look at that. So I did wanna, uh, thank uh, those
[42:52]
people. I also wanted to let staff know that I empathize with them. I
[42:57]
myself have worked on projects for multiple months or multiple years,
[43:01]
only to have someone or someone's come out of the woodwork
[43:05]
at the last minute and say, what I didn't know,
[43:09]
I'm against this. So I get it. And again, I appreciate the opportunity
[43:14]
to be heard and to have further discussion. Um,
[43:18]
I have lived on magnolia beacon hill for 20 years, and
[43:23]
in 2022 I decided to give up my vehicle,
[43:27]
um, because of the number two, because I have that easy access, half
[43:31]
a block from my house. And that gets me downtown phil harberger park,
[43:35]
roosevelt park, lots of places. So it is an important route to me.
[43:40]
I'm also, um, the planning team rep for beacon hill and
[43:45]
multimodality, and improving biking, pedestrian
[43:50]
access and transit is very important to us. And so I think
[43:54]
if we can keep the number two, we can really work on bolstering
[43:58]
that ridership, encouraging folks in those neighborhoods that live along
[44:02]
the route to see it as a viable way to get downtown.
[44:07]
I do wanna take this opportunity since I'm here. Um, on a separate
[44:11]
topic, I would like to encourage via to look for ways to engage the untapped
[44:15]
households that live along via routes. I know that via recently mailed out
[44:19]
free bus passes for february, since a few folks posted about
[44:23]
that on our neighborhood page. I like this idea. I also think
[44:28]
there would be value in working with neighborhood association
[44:32]
associations and other groups on bus field trips where a coordinated
[44:36]
trip could be planned with a via steward. A fun trip to phil harburg or
[44:40]
park or roosevelt park kind of helps get people over that intimidation
[44:44]
factor. And once they've done it once, believe you me,
[44:49]
they'll do it again. My sister now thinks she's this great transit writer because
[44:54]
I taught her how to do that while she was here. Lastly, I do wanna
[44:58]
register a complaint about the fact that there is no ability to load money online
[45:02]
onto the go-karts. It practically defeats the purpose and is pretty
[45:06]
disappointing in the day of an age of advanced technology. I hope that's
[45:10]
something that's a priority. Um, as to the free bus, uh,
[45:14]
thing, I respect the via drivers. They get me to where I need to go.
[45:18]
I would hope that a limited pilot program would be something that could be considered. Thank
[45:23]
you. Thank you.
[45:29]
thank you. Our next speaker is elizabeth cheney.
[45:50]
hello. Thank you so much for letting, um, us speak. My name's
[45:54]
elizabeth cheney. Um, I'm a member of the alamo council of the
[45:58]
blind, um, the blended veterans association,
[46:03]
auxiliary and a few other, um, groups that
[46:07]
have lost, got lost in my mind at this moment. , um,
[46:11]
I just wanted to speak, uh, about drop off and
[46:15]
pickup spots. Um, we go once to twice a month
[46:19]
to the san fernando, uh, catholic church downtown.
[46:24]
and it seems like we get dropped off at a
[46:28]
spot and we're used to being dropped off and we go back to the same spot to get picked up.
[46:32]
but it's not the same spot that our driver will end
[46:36]
up being around the corner or further up. And
[46:41]
my husband and I are both visually impaired. We, uh, met at,
[46:45]
actually at austin, um, at the blind school, chris
[46:49]
cole. So we're very familiar with capital metro.
[46:53]
and uh, and I don't want it to sound like that we're,
[46:58]
uh, this, we just need it to be consistent
[47:02]
because when we go back to the spot, we were dropped off. That's where we're
[47:06]
expecting our ride to show up. And then they mark us.
[47:11]
no show, but we're where we're supposed to do. And a lot of times there's police
[47:15]
officers outside and they're remember us from getting dropped off and they'll make sure we're
[47:19]
in the right spot and they have to look out and they'll tell us, oh, it's around
[47:23]
the corner and they have to go get it for us. And, uh, uh,
[47:27]
same thing when we go to the, the majestic theater. Um, and
[47:31]
other, and I understand it, um, there might be traffic
[47:36]
or other things going on where they, but it would
[47:40]
really help, especially in major places like the tobin,
[47:44]
they, um, majestic theater, the,
[47:48]
um, catholic church that we could have one consistent spot
[47:52]
to go to. And I wanna say how much I appreciate all of you,
[47:56]
and especially the drivers because of y'all. I can consistently
[48:01]
be at work early or on time. I have never been
[48:05]
late to work. My boss really appreciates it. I
[48:09]
appreciate 'cause I have a paycheck and it really comes in
[48:13]
handy when bills come every month, . So I,
[48:18]
because of y'all, you've given me my mobility back, my able to,
[48:23]
um, be able to get a paycheck,
[48:28]
um, to have my self-worth and having my
[48:32]
children proud of me because, um, I'm working.
[48:37]
I am, um, able to call in, make my rides and
[48:41]
I'm very independent at best to my abilities. I appreciate
[48:45]
all of y'all and I know how hard these bus drivers work,
[48:49]
how hard these drivers, uh, make sure that I safely get
[48:54]
to work safely, get to grocery store, and they make sure I get
[48:58]
safely, get to the doctor's office and I, um,
[49:02]
wanna know how heartfelt I feel about them. Thank you.
[49:10]
thank you. Our next speaker is gregory williams.
[49:15]
yay.
[49:29]
uh, good afternoon. Um, board trustees, uh, ceo herrera, and everybody here.
[49:33]
thank you very much for coming. My name is gregory williams. I've been here at via for three years,
[49:38]
since february of 2023. It's a great place and a great opportunity
[49:42]
for me to be here at via. I enjoy it so very much. But I,
[49:46]
I have to put my, um, put my say in for the no fair free transit,
[49:50]
uh, the nofa transit, um, proposal. Um,
[49:55]
it, it will open the door for, um, many issues. I echo with, uh,
[49:59]
what robert garza, our a tu union president says, uh,
[50:03]
it will open up the door for us. Many, many more issues. I've already like
[50:07]
the way it via is now. I do feel safe and I enjoy my, uh,
[50:11]
job. I enjoy taking all the passengers everywhere, uh, across the city. I'm an extra board.
[50:16]
um, but there are many times where I've been, uh, assaulted verbally. I've
[50:20]
been, um, almost physically assaulted on the bus. The doors have been broken.
[50:24]
I've had rocks thrown at the window. And opening this door for anybody to
[50:28]
ride this bus, um, does propose, uh, a
[50:33]
dangerous risk for everybody on the bus, including the operators. Uh,
[50:37]
the, uh, via pd response is slow. The supervisor
[50:42]
response is slow. I understand. We, we have so many and they can only be
[50:46]
so many places at one time. Um, the, I there's faster
[50:51]
response with sapd. Um, sometimes I'm on the bus waiting for a supervisor
[50:55]
and via pd for 45 minutes. And that's a service delay. People have somewhere
[50:59]
to be, they have to go grocery shopping. They have appointments, they have, uh, some
[51:03]
just somewhere very important to be. And with the reliability of the bus
[51:08]
going down with allowing free rides to the door, the line will be out the door just
[51:12]
to get on the bus. And if someone just unhappy that they can't get on a certain bus, who
[51:16]
knows what they're gonna do to that bus? It's gonna delay it. And the, so there's questionable
[51:20]
people, undesirable people that linger around that are transit centers. I'm not saying
[51:24]
that they're not allowed to ride. Everybody should be able to ride the bus. But the
[51:28]
people that that make the bus unsafe are the people that should
[51:32]
not, uh, the people riding the bus should feel protected from
[51:37]
the buses can become unsanitary already as it is. And there's the,
[51:41]
just the people alone around central plaza, they're just unsanitary
[51:45]
and exposing paying passengers for their security is going to risk
[51:49]
disease in contact with, uh, bacteria. And,
[51:54]
and it, that's one thing that via strives to have is clean safe
[51:58]
opera buses on time efficient. And I'm glad to be a part of that. And
[52:02]
I wanted to continue. I say no to fair trans, uh, no free fair,
[52:07]
or no fair transit. I oppose that. I, I believe that
[52:11]
fair is security for passengers across the city. Thank you so much. That's my time.
[52:20]
thank you.
[52:25]
our next speaker, eloy saara. I believe you yielded
[52:29]
your time, so he does need to speak.
[52:34]
all right, we'll move on to chris morales.
[52:54]
good evening via board. Madam chair, my name
[52:58]
is chris morale. I'm the president of communication workers of america in
[53:02]
san antonio. I'm here to express my opposition to the proposed
[53:07]
expansion of vias telecom sales tax for san antonio residents.
[53:12]
I understand vias needs to secure reliable funding to improve
[53:16]
public transit. And I support the goal of better service for our community.
[53:20]
however, taxing telecom services places an unfair
[53:24]
burden on something that has become essential for everyday life.
[53:28]
phone and internet access are critical for work, for school, healthcare,
[53:33]
and staying connected. For emer emergencies, many
[53:37]
residents are still facing economic pressure from the rising cost of living. And
[53:41]
adding additional taxation would negatively impact on the very communities
[53:47]
that public transit is meant to support. I want to reiterate
[53:51]
my respect for v's. Mission and the important role public transit
[53:55]
plays in the success of our city. My comments today offered
[53:59]
in the spirit of partnership and what the shared goal of ensuring san
[54:03]
antonio continues to move forward in a way that is fair and sustainable
[54:08]
for all residents. I respect, respectfully ask the va
[54:12]
board to reconsider this proposal and to continue working toward funding
[54:16]
solutions that are fair and mindful of the financial realities
[54:21]
of many san antonio's residents are facing. Thank you for your time
[54:25]
and consideration. Thank you
[54:30]
will. Bridges. Yeah.
[54:46]
good evening. My name is will bridges. I'm a driver here of
[54:51]
operator here at via for 12 years. Um, excuse me if I'm not following
[54:55]
decorum. 'cause I thought the mayor was here, gonna be here since she wanted
[55:00]
this meeting and everything. Uh, ms. Herrera and board members and
[55:04]
trustees, I'm speaking today as someone behind the wheel every day. I want to be
[55:08]
clear, free fair is what make buses harder to operate less safe
[55:12]
and less reliable for the riders who depend on our service. When
[55:17]
passengers pay even a small amount, it creates
[55:21]
structure and respect. It sets expectation expectations and keeps
[55:25]
boarding orderly. Without that, buses quickly become a space for
[55:29]
loitering, repeated riding with no where to go,
[55:34]
and a place for unruly behavior. Re removing fares also
[55:38]
increases safety problems. Operators deal with more confrontations,
[55:42]
more unpredictable riders, and more delays. Affairs isn't just
[55:46]
revenue, it's one of the only twos we have that keep
[55:50]
and maintain safe, respectful, behavioral on board.
[55:55]
and from an operational standpoint, free fare slows service down,
[56:00]
increases crowding and strains equipment and staff. As
[56:04]
they said before, I've had people defecate and
[56:08]
other things on my bus who weren't in their right mind or whatever.
[56:12]
and bus change, you know, all of that, that delay
[56:17]
service. Um, if the goal is helping low income
[56:21]
riders, target discounts can do that without, uh, messing
[56:25]
up the entire system. San antonio has one
[56:29]
of the lowest rates in the country.
[56:33]
I've been all over the world, all over the country via fares
[56:38]
are really low. As a driver, I want a system that's
[56:42]
safe, reliable, and workable for riders and operators. Free fair is undermine
[56:46]
all of that. Mr. Herrera and board members. Please show the mayor, mayor
[56:51]
that the employees that you are responsible for in matter and say no to free fares.
[56:55]
thank you on that. And I don't know if I can say this, but for the
[57:00]
mayor, you know, as an operator, I enjoy my job. I strongly disagree
[57:04]
with making faires free. Free sounds nice and all, but in the end, someone
[57:08]
has to pay for it. Making buses free doesn't make transportation
[57:12]
free. It only shifts the entire cost onto taxpayers and local businesses.
[57:17]
and if you really wanna help out people, don't
[57:21]
raise the cps. Don't raise saws,
[57:25]
you know, eliminate fares at the airport, you know, city
[57:30]
municipal building, uh, parking lots and stuff like that
[57:34]
on the bus. It's just gonna make more issues for us as drivers.
[57:40]
and that's pretty much it. And thank you all and
[57:44]
no to free thank
[57:51]
george perez.
[57:56]
george betis not here.
[58:00]
all right. Jack finger.
[58:34]
oh, good afternoon, ma'am. Madam chair, another members of our board.
[58:39]
uh, my name is jack m. Finger and route number
[58:43]
two. Well, you say you're, you're going to probably leave it as it is, but that hasn't
[58:48]
ha that has not happened yet. And so I'm not celebrating just yet.
[58:52]
okay. Um, you,
[58:59]
my comment is that you need to fire, fire the
[59:03]
jerk or jerks that are responsible for this debacle.
[59:07]
yeah, . I don't, I notice that, uh,
[59:12]
, I notice that none of you were at
[59:17]
one of those hearings that this came up all 24. No,
[59:21]
the 25 of you were there. J just of two or three staffers.
[59:28]
look where and look where the notice
[59:32]
is on this change. Buried, buried deep inside
[59:36]
this pamphlet. Two thirds, half, two thirds deep in
[59:41]
there. What is via trying to
[59:45]
hide? I don't like my tax dollars.
[59:49]
going to such, yes, deception.
[59:58]
round number two is upon a major thoroughfare blanco road.
[1:00:02]
it's been around for decades. I repeat decades
[1:00:09]
yet you bury this bad proposal.
[1:00:14]
what does it say to be replaced? Replaced
[1:00:18]
by routes 6 49 and 5 0 6. When
[1:00:22]
I an average writer, see that I start to
[1:00:26]
panic. I don't read any further. 5 0 600
[1:00:30]
and 500 routes are beyond loop four 10. I don't see
[1:00:34]
anything indicating where it's below that. So
[1:00:39]
and so now, maybe my panic would've been assuaged if I'd seen some maps
[1:00:44]
in this thing. Where are the maps? And I was told,
[1:00:48]
well, we wanted to save a little bit of money and not, not put 'em in there.
[1:00:53]
huh? Excuse me. What
[1:00:57]
stupidity? You've had 'em before. So you're saving money this time,
[1:01:01]
huh? We,
[1:01:06]
the, you would be able to, sir, you still be able to
[1:01:10]
transfer at five points and ride downtown? Excuse me. This
[1:01:14]
route number two is a major route. I shouldn't have to transfer anywhere.
[1:01:20]
please don't let this go forward.
[1:01:25]
and on another subject regarding free rides, uh,
[1:01:29]
did, does it ever occur to you? What happens when you give away something free? People
[1:01:34]
will start disrespecting it. They start trashing it and filthy, filthy. That's
[1:01:38]
what happens when will happen on our buses. Thank you.
[1:01:55]
there are no other citizens to be heard. Very good. Thank
[1:01:59]
you very much. Appreciate everyone's comments. Uh, next we're gonna go
[1:02:04]
ahead and go out of order and address item six first, um, which is presentation, discussion,
[1:02:08]
and board direction on request received from the february 11th, 2026
[1:02:13]
b session at subsequent subsequent communications from mayor jones
[1:02:18]
related to via operations and services. Mrta, would you like to
[1:02:22]
begin the discussion please? Thank you, madam chair. And as we pull together
[1:02:26]
the agenda, I, I should say the presentation, um,
[1:02:32]
we're gonna, we're gonna bring up a slide here that we're gonna, we're gonna walk us through the, um,
[1:02:36]
through the agenda.
[1:02:42]
so before we walk through the analysis, I wanted to briefly frame how we're
[1:02:46]
approaching the fair, free question and why the agenda is structured in such a way.
[1:02:51]
this is not a single policy conversation. Fair free touches every dimension
[1:02:56]
of this organization. It touches our strategy, our customers,
[1:03:00]
our workforce. We're hearing that tonight, our operations, financial
[1:03:04]
legal frameworks and our long-term commitments to the community.
[1:03:09]
that's why today discussion is organized around the core
[1:03:13]
responsibilities of not only management, but of our board
[1:03:17]
and the opening and the operating realities of, of via.
[1:03:22]
we'll begin with the strategic alignment because every major policy choice should be
[1:03:26]
measured against how the strategy of this board has, that this board has already
[1:03:30]
adopted ie that keeps antonio moving plan, uh,
[1:03:35]
is our guiding framework for building a system that people choose to
[1:03:39]
use and for delivering on commitments made to voters. The
[1:03:43]
first question is whether fair free advances or distracts from that north star,
[1:03:47]
that strategic alignment? Next we'll ground the conversation, the ground,
[1:03:51]
the conversation and customer priorities. We're not speculating about what
[1:03:55]
rider want. We are bringing forward what they have told us through thousands of surveys and community
[1:03:59]
engagements. This section also intended to anchor our discussion in rider
[1:04:03]
reality, not assumptions. We then will address safety workforce
[1:04:08]
and operational issues and impacts. This is about the people who
[1:04:12]
run the system and the environment in which service is delivered every
[1:04:17]
day. Safety for our employees and our customers. Service reliability and our
[1:04:21]
ability to attract and, and retain operators are not secondary
[1:04:25]
considerations. They are foundational whether this system works.
[1:04:30]
from there, we'll move into the financial, legal and federal considerations. This section reflects
[1:04:34]
the board's fiduciary responsibility. We walk you through the financial
[1:04:39]
realities, our financing instruments, our revenue bonds, federal funding posture,
[1:04:43]
and the long range financial plan. These are, these are constraints within
[1:04:48]
any policy change must operate. We will also review
[1:04:52]
our existing fair program because the affordability is not new to via,
[1:04:57]
we have been delivering and supporting affordable programs for decades. And we
[1:05:01]
will show how targeted responsible partnerships already remove barriers for
[1:05:05]
those who need support the most without destabilizing the system.
[1:05:10]
and finally, we will close with a summary and staff recommendation and of course, seek
[1:05:14]
board direction, um, on that. Our intent today
[1:05:19]
as management is to provide you a comprehensive fact-based framework so the board can
[1:05:24]
exercise its governance role with clarity and confidence. With
[1:05:28]
that framing, I will turn it over to the team to begin with that and we'll kick it off
[1:05:32]
with strategic alignment. Thank you joe. Gary, uh,
[1:05:36]
rod sanchez, senior vice president of planning development. Uh, I've been
[1:05:40]
with via for, for two years. And, and I wanted to share with the, the group
[1:05:45]
I came to via two years ago because of all the exciting, transformative
[1:05:49]
things that we were doing here. It was building the green line.
[1:05:53]
it was, you know, adding to our via link service. Uh, and it was the,
[1:05:57]
the better best plan that attracted me to via I went the city. I was happy 30, 30
[1:06:02]
years there. Uh, but this stuff was really the stuff that I wanted
[1:06:06]
to do. 'cause this is the stuff that transformed the city. This is what makes a city, uh, a great
[1:06:10]
city to live, work, and play in the city that I want my kids to grow up in. So that's why I
[1:06:14]
came here. Uh, as john gary said, you know, our, our mission here, our north star
[1:06:18]
is to build a system, uh, that our writers, uh, want to ride.
[1:06:22]
that our writers choose to ride. And you don't do that, uh,
[1:06:27]
by going to a conference room, putting up a map and drawing a bunch of lines. It doesn't work that
[1:06:31]
way. It's not that easy. Uh, you build a system that people wanna ride
[1:06:35]
by engaging them in meaningful conversation by having that conversation about
[1:06:39]
our services and what they want to see in our services, where they
[1:06:43]
want our services to go about frequency, about expanding our service. You know,
[1:06:47]
what is it they want? That's how you, you get to the system, uh, that
[1:06:52]
that works for everybody. You know, we've done this at via
[1:06:56]
over a decade and, and it's funny. The same things
[1:07:00]
come up over and over again. You know, that our customers tell us that they want from us.
[1:07:04]
it's improved frequency, it's reduced travel time,
[1:07:08]
and, and they wanna feel safe aboard our buses. You know, they wanna know that they're
[1:07:12]
safe at the bus stop. They wanna know that they're safe, you know, on the bus. I mean, it's funny, I
[1:07:16]
was having a conversation today, uh, with somebody that said, you know what? My daughter attends utsa.
[1:07:21]
I want to, I want, I wanna know that she's safe when she's on your bus. Those are the things over
[1:07:25]
the last decade that our customers have told us. And when you look at what we're doing,
[1:07:30]
you know, improve frequency. We have to keep san antonio moving plan. We have the better bus plan.
[1:07:34]
we have v link. All things are designed to improve frequency, reduce
[1:07:38]
travel time, it's all those things. Plus we're looking at improving our technology
[1:07:43]
to, to improve that travel time and keep people safe. It's funny, today
[1:07:47]
we just introduced our new chief, you know, and he's, you know, uh, in charge
[1:07:51]
of a department that's growing, you know, to face those, those issues.
[1:07:57]
and here are the plans that, that, uh, are kind of our founding blocks, if
[1:08:02]
you will. And we start out with, with, uh, with the mpo plans, uh,
[1:08:06]
mobility 2040, mobility 2045, and the city's sa tomorrow.
[1:08:10]
these are all building blocks that we build our plans upon. And all these, you know,
[1:08:15]
know plans have, you know, one thing in common, they weren't built in a conference room.
[1:08:19]
they were built having those meaningful, engaging conversations with the community.
[1:08:24]
and then with via, we started out with our vision 2040 plan, our via
[1:08:28]
reimagine and then our keep san antonio moving plan. The vision and,
[1:08:32]
and the reimagine plan. Those are, those are good visionary plans, but the keep san antonio movie
[1:08:36]
plan, that's where the rubber meets the road. Those are our, that's a, a funded plan,
[1:08:40]
uh, where we're starting to execute some of these things that our customers want.
[1:08:45]
and what have we learned from all these plans? What have our customers told us they want
[1:08:49]
faster travel time, they want shorter weights. You know, these are things
[1:08:53]
in the better bus plan. They want late night service. They want expanded service.
[1:08:57]
once again, those are all things that we put in the better, better bus plan when we've heard from
[1:09:01]
them. They want new express routes and they want direct services. Once
[1:09:06]
again, better bus plan sa tomorrow. Uh, these are all
[1:09:10]
things in those plans, uh, 'cause that's what we've heard from our customers. So with that,
[1:09:14]
I'm gonna turn it over to our resident expert on, uh, ks a to kinda walk you through
[1:09:18]
a few slides. Mm-hmm .
[1:09:25]
thank you. My name is manger koker. I'm a major
[1:09:29]
capital program officer. I have been, uh, working on
[1:09:34]
these plans for many years or keep san antonio moving
[1:09:38]
plan, as ron mentioned, is culmination of lot of community input
[1:09:42]
that we received through mid-range long range plan via vision,
[1:09:46]
uh, 2040. And we are reimagined. It is also implementation
[1:09:51]
plan, which is based on a td two sales tax
[1:09:56]
and leveraging that 82 a t two sales
[1:10:00]
tax for our federal funds. So that is the plan. Um, that
[1:10:04]
plan has three major, um, transformative
[1:10:09]
pro. Uh, the
[1:10:13]
guiding, uh, four principles, uh, form the basis of
[1:10:17]
these transformative projects. More frequency direct service,
[1:10:22]
which results in faster trips, shorter wait times,
[1:10:26]
more simple and convenient mobility options that result in
[1:10:31]
improved service coverage and connections. And this overall results
[1:10:35]
in increased frequency ridership and customer experience.
[1:10:40]
the plan is designed to improve the existing transit system, expand
[1:10:45]
mobility options, and invest in our capital and technology.
[1:10:49]
uh, there are three projects which we are going to shortly go over.
[1:10:54]
I'm going to do advanced rapid transit or via rapid rod is going to
[1:10:58]
take over better bus plan and via link via rapid
[1:11:02]
delivers, faster travel times, broader access, stronger community
[1:11:06]
and economic connections that will transfer our urban mobility.
[1:11:11]
the these lines will provide reliable, high frequency,
[1:11:15]
faster service seven days a week with help of
[1:11:19]
dedicated bus lanes and priority transit signals
[1:11:24]
via green line, which on this map is north. South direction.
[1:11:28]
connects the airport from the north through downtown
[1:11:32]
to the brooks on the south, uh, with 10.3
[1:11:36]
miles of infrastructure improvements. The construction on this
[1:11:40]
project is underway and has al this project has already
[1:11:45]
received federal funds via silver line, which connects
[1:11:49]
san antonio's east and west communities. Also intersects
[1:11:53]
this north side line and together it forms a basis
[1:11:58]
of our network. Vi is also applying for,
[1:12:02]
uh, a cig capital improvement small starts grant
[1:12:06]
for the silver line. And I will get into financials a little later.
[1:12:14]
alright, so I'm gonna geek out for
[1:12:18]
you just a little bit. Uh, I'm, I'm a planner and, and, uh, you
[1:12:22]
know, the father of planning is daniel burnham. And, and one of his famous quotes is,
[1:12:27]
make no little plans. They have no magic to stir
[1:12:31]
men's blood. So that's not what we do. We make big plans and, and I think
[1:12:35]
the biggest plan that we have is a better bus plan. Uh, this is a plan
[1:12:39]
and it's one of the most exciting plans that we do. This is, this is where it's where it's all at.
[1:12:44]
uh, this is a plan that we built with our customers for
[1:12:48]
our customers. And what do our customers tell us? They want more frequency. They
[1:12:52]
want us to expand our service and they want more direct routes. They want to go where
[1:12:56]
they need to go. And when we're all said and done, uh,
[1:13:01]
we implement this plan. We'll have the green line, we'll have the silver line.
[1:13:05]
uh, every single one of our routes will have a frequency better than 30 minutes.
[1:13:10]
and we're gonna go, we're gonna direct those routes to where people want to go. Uh,
[1:13:15]
when we presented this plan to you last year. Uh, you
[1:13:19]
guys are really excited about it. You said, great job. We're happy with what
[1:13:23]
you're presenting. Uh, but this was designed to be a six year implementation plan, and that's when you
[1:13:27]
guys frowned and said, no, it's not good enough. Uh, we, we want you to put this great
[1:13:31]
service on the ground sooner than that. Uh, so that's what we did.
[1:13:35]
we rolled up our sleeves, uh, worked with our finance department.
[1:13:40]
uh, we hired a ton of operators, uh, and, and we figured out how, how to
[1:13:44]
do that. So happy to report that at the end of
[1:13:48]
25, uh, before a year had passed, 24%
[1:13:53]
of this better bus plan was implemented. This year, this year alone,
[1:13:57]
were planning to improve 41%, 41% of the
[1:14:01]
better bus plan. That includes over 45 routes. So at the end of, at
[1:14:05]
the end of may, actually 65% of the better bus plan
[1:14:09]
will be implemented. And on the streets, you know, it,
[1:14:13]
it's gonna take us till 2031 to implement the whole thing. That's because
[1:14:18]
we gotta get the silver line on board and we gotta tie into the silver line.
[1:14:22]
but the vast majority of the plan will be, uh, implemented by that time.
[1:14:26]
but, you know, here, here's the better plan is just a perfect example of
[1:14:31]
we, we heard our customers, we listened to our customers, and we're delivering to our customers
[1:14:35]
what they've asked for.
[1:14:39]
and I wanted to share this, this slide with you. This was, uh, this was kind
[1:14:44]
of a reimagined ski slope slide, uh, which tells, you know,
[1:14:48]
we, we asked a simple question to potential riders. We said, at what frequency
[1:14:52]
would it take for you to take our service? And, and that's what that,
[1:14:56]
that slope represents, uh, is, is the interest in taking our service.
[1:15:01]
at the bottom of the slide is, is the, the frequency in minutes.
[1:15:05]
so you can see at 10 minutes, 84% of
[1:15:09]
those folks we asked, they said they would be interested in taking our service if we're delivering
[1:15:13]
a 10 minute frequency. And then it kind of falls a little bit at 20 minutes to 64%,
[1:15:18]
about 20% at 30 minutes. And then the bottom drops out.
[1:15:22]
when you're beyond 30 minutes, somewhere between five to 1% of the people
[1:15:26]
said they're gonna take our service. So that's not good. And what's really not good, what
[1:15:31]
the red represents in 25, 70% of our service
[1:15:35]
was in that 20 to 60 or the 30 to 60 minute service. So we weren't doing
[1:15:39]
very well. But now with the better bus plan, with 65%
[1:15:44]
of it being on the ground, after may we flip the script, we will flip the script.
[1:15:49]
in may, 72% of our routes will have service that's
[1:15:53]
better than 30 minutes. So the team has done a great job doing that.
[1:15:58]
and, and what's amazing is we're seeing the results already. When
[1:16:02]
you look at our ridership numbers, people are responding to this service. Our ridership is growing,
[1:16:06]
especially on those routes. Uh, where we've improved them
[1:16:12]
also in the better bus plan is, is via link. And in via link
[1:16:16]
this, I, I call this our coverage service. 'cause this is, the service is
[1:16:20]
kind of in the perimeter city, uh, where you have cul-de-sacs, you have
[1:16:24]
kind of verland streets, you have topography. Uh, it doesn't
[1:16:28]
work to bring a 40, 60 foot bus out to these areas. Uh,
[1:16:33]
but it makes a lot of sense to do an on dam, on demand service, like via link.
[1:16:37]
and in the better bus plan, we call for 10 10, uh, via link zones.
[1:16:42]
uh, we have six of them on the ground today. Those are the ones in purple,
[1:16:46]
uh, with the southeast, uh, trustee gomez being the latest and
[1:16:50]
greatest as a couple months old. And we are already seeing great, uh, uh,
[1:16:54]
numbers and ridership there. Uh, since 2019, we've been
[1:16:58]
delivering this service. Over 2 million people have used it this last year. We've
[1:17:03]
seen a 35% growth in that, and about 500, 500,000
[1:17:07]
people take this service, uh, on, on a yearly basis. So, once again,
[1:17:12]
talk to our customers. They've told us what we wanted and we've delivered, and they've responded
[1:17:16]
by, by using our service. So with that,
[1:17:20]
uh, that concludes man juries in my presentation. We're
[1:17:25]
available to answer questions if anybody has any questions for us. If not, we'll turn it over to leroy
[1:17:29]
trustees. Do we have any questions at this moment? None. Okay.
[1:17:33]
madam chair? I do. Yep. Vice chair gomez. I, I just want to,
[1:17:38]
for clarity, the 70% flip occurred over
[1:17:42]
a one year period, one and a half year period. What wa what was that time again?
[1:17:46]
it was 25. At the end of 25, and it will occur
[1:17:51]
in may of this year, in may of this year when we put 65% of the better
[1:17:55]
buss plan in effect. So after the may service change,
[1:17:59]
literally routes that were over 30 minutes comprised 70%
[1:18:03]
of our routes. And now literally it'll be the complete opposite. That's
[1:18:08]
right. Okay. Thank you that that was in response to the direction that you gave
[1:18:12]
us when we, I, uh, when we present the plan to you. Thank you,
[1:18:20]
madam chair, members of the board, leroy allway, chief of staff.
[1:18:24]
as we transition into the next part of the presentation, we also wanted to take
[1:18:28]
a moment and really reinforce for everyone
[1:18:32]
that what we're delivering on today was also a promise that
[1:18:36]
we made to the community. In november of 2020, when the community overwhelmingly
[1:18:41]
supported reallocating the one eighth cent sales tax to the advanced transportation
[1:18:46]
district for the keep san antonio moving plan.
[1:18:50]
as you heard, rod and manger mention what we're developing and
[1:18:54]
implementing with the keep. San antonio moving plan is the backbone of a reform
[1:18:59]
revitalized transit system for our community.
[1:19:03]
success for us looks like a system where people choose
[1:19:07]
transit 'cause it gets them where they want to go, where they need to go
[1:19:12]
on time, safely, and with dignity.
[1:19:17]
the plan that is on the screen before you at this moment
[1:19:21]
encapsulates that the launch of two via rapid lines, more via
[1:19:25]
link and the better bus plan. That's how we grow
[1:19:29]
ridership, how we improve the system, and in line with the mission, vision,
[1:19:34]
and promise that the board has put in place as the last year,
[1:19:38]
how we are also the driving force for our community's growth and success.
[1:19:43]
I'm gonna be joined by terry travino to walk through what our community
[1:19:48]
and customers continue to tell us about their priorities for our system.
[1:19:52]
and again, just wanted to reinforce that what we're delivering today, we
[1:19:56]
told voters we would deliver in november of 2020, even
[1:20:00]
recognizing that that sales tax did not start coming over to via until january 1st
[1:20:05]
of this year. So it would've been very easy to wait six years
[1:20:09]
to start seeing that plan come to fruition. This agency
[1:20:13]
didn't wait, and as you just heard from rod as well, we are even
[1:20:17]
accelerating faster. The plans we've put in place to deliver for our community.
[1:20:24]
thank you madam chair and trustees. Terry
[1:20:28]
tino, senior vice president of marketing and communications
[1:20:32]
marketing without data is like driving with your eyes closed.
[1:20:37]
I'm here to provide you data and feedback on
[1:20:41]
behalf of our customers and our community.
[1:20:45]
customer feedback is at the core of all things we do to deliver service
[1:20:50]
and provide value to our community. We have a dedicated staff
[1:20:54]
of subject matter experts in the field of customer feedback and surveys
[1:20:59]
who work on collecting, synthesizing, and delivering
[1:21:03]
insights on the pulse of the region, including customers, future
[1:21:08]
customers, and members of the larger community. Our main,
[1:21:12]
main surveys focus on customer satisfaction, which measures
[1:21:16]
what existing customers think, feel, and experience.
[1:21:21]
we also measure net promoter score. It is the gold standard
[1:21:25]
of future growth and focuses on brand loyalty,
[1:21:29]
gauges, customer experience, and we administer community
[1:21:34]
value surveys and market surveys, which identify value
[1:21:38]
drivers conduct gap analysis,
[1:21:42]
optimizing pricing and packaging and improvising,
[1:21:47]
improving in, uh, retention. However,
[1:21:51]
survey vail, validity and reliability are critical to providing
[1:21:56]
trustworthy research. And our survey results work within
[1:22:01]
nationally accepted validity scores evaluated by
[1:22:05]
neutral third parties. Our data is very consistent
[1:22:09]
across the mentioned survey channels. Fair free service
[1:22:13]
is not a top of mind request from our customers.
[1:22:17]
we ask about bears and affordability, and it simply
[1:22:22]
does not resonate as a primary concern or barrier.
[1:22:27]
what writers are asking for consistently and clearly
[1:22:32]
is more frequent service, better on time performance,
[1:22:36]
shorter travel times, and a system that they can rely on.
[1:22:41]
these themes show up again and again in our surveys
[1:22:45]
and our feedback. In fact, 89% of
[1:22:50]
non-customers surveyed agree that even though
[1:22:54]
they do not use via services, they are glad they, there
[1:22:58]
are plans to improve public transit because either they or
[1:23:02]
someone close may need it in the future. This
[1:23:06]
overwhelming overwhelmingly concludes that our community
[1:23:11]
sees the benefit in transit that is available for everyone.
[1:23:17]
since 2021, via has conducted semi-annual customer
[1:23:22]
satisfaction writer surveys, we do this to ensure that we understand
[1:23:26]
the perspectives, perspectives of our existing customers
[1:23:30]
to identify, analyze, and improve customer sentiment, to boost
[1:23:35]
retention. This allows us to deliver on what matters most to our
[1:23:39]
existing customers. Our most recent cu customer satisfaction
[1:23:43]
survey shows that existing customers are largely
[1:23:48]
satisfied with what they pay today. That's an important data
[1:23:52]
point. It tells us that for most writers, the
[1:23:56]
fair level itself is not a primary barrier in
[1:24:00]
using transit. The primary barrier is whether
[1:24:04]
the service works for their daily life. Overall,
[1:24:08]
our customer surveys show significant satisfaction with the via
[1:24:12]
system on average, and most recently, 87%
[1:24:17]
of our customers say that they're satisfied or very
[1:24:21]
satisfied with their experience on our existing system.
[1:24:25]
that's compared to a transit industry average of 76%.
[1:24:32]
and importantly, more than half of the survey respondents
[1:24:36]
have said their experience has improved over the last
[1:24:40]
year. Our net promoter score is the highest
[1:24:45]
in the transit industry and falls within the range of world
[1:24:49]
class across all beloved brands.
[1:24:57]
now we look at what actually drives ridership growth.
[1:25:01]
the data is clear frequency, reliability,
[1:25:06]
and usefulness of the network. When service improves,
[1:25:11]
ridership follows, when service is unreliable,
[1:25:16]
even free fares don't overcome the inconvenience.
[1:25:21]
as we continue examining customer feedback, we routinely
[1:25:25]
ask what's most important to them on time performance
[1:25:30]
has risen to the top of most important features of
[1:25:34]
our system. In each of our last three customer
[1:25:39]
satisfaction surveys. In the red summary box,
[1:25:43]
you will see the top three important factors have
[1:25:47]
been consistent on time, performance, service
[1:25:52]
coverage, and weather protection. Once again,
[1:25:56]
we do not see in our surveys that the cost affairs is prohibitive.
[1:26:02]
in fact, 98% said they are satisfied
[1:26:06]
or very satisfied with our current fair structure.
[1:26:11]
on the left hand side of the slide, we summarized what our customers
[1:26:15]
are most satisfied with and least satisfied with.
[1:26:20]
our customers say they like the ease of purchasing,
[1:26:24]
fare, trip planning, and access to
[1:26:28]
stops. They tell us that we need to work on weather protection,
[1:26:33]
weak weekend frequency and security at our stops.
[1:26:38]
and they tell us they see tremendous value in the cost of
[1:26:42]
their affair. Not that it isn't an obstacle.
[1:26:49]
last summer in a community value survey, which
[1:26:53]
measures the public's perception of the worth,
[1:26:58]
benefits, and price of quality ratio of a product and service,
[1:27:03]
we reached out to writers and non-writers. We found
[1:27:07]
broad support of v's. Plans to improve services,
[1:27:12]
quality service and price is a key
[1:27:16]
dimension of feedback. And those surveyed agree
[1:27:20]
that our planned investments will help those most in need
[1:27:24]
across our community. That a strong transit network is
[1:27:28]
foundational to economically competitive city to an
[1:27:33]
economically competitive city. And that public transportation
[1:27:38]
is an essential aspect for workforce development.
[1:27:42]
as a result of this feedback, we know and are committed
[1:27:47]
to overserving the underserved, we do this through working
[1:27:51]
with over 120 nonprofits who
[1:27:55]
purchase discounted bus passes to provide to their clientele
[1:28:00]
population
[1:28:07]
in the same community value survey. In terms of the
[1:28:11]
questions of how do we broaden our customer base,
[1:28:16]
the top responses from residents in our region
[1:28:20]
include safety, more transit options,
[1:28:25]
higher frequency service, the delivery of our advanced rapid
[1:28:29]
transit program, better technology. And
[1:28:33]
the continued expansion of via link
[1:28:38]
absent from this list is the cost of fares.
[1:28:42]
as a as survey after survey has shown us, our customers
[1:28:46]
feel they're getting a significant value for the fares
[1:28:51]
they pay, and the cost is not prohibitive.
[1:28:55]
in other words, it is not a barrier to ride.
[1:28:59]
thank you. And
[1:29:04]
with that, we're glad to take any questions on this segment before mr. Brown joins
[1:29:08]
us at the podium. Okay. Trustees, any questions
[1:29:13]
trustee? Thank you, terry. This is amazing information. Uh,
[1:29:17]
just wanna get some clarification. So this is a lot of great data
[1:29:21]
and I like that you presented not only customer data, but
[1:29:25]
uh, data from non-writers as well to try to understand what are some of those barriers.
[1:29:30]
so just to clarify, um, you mentioned there, there
[1:29:35]
wasn't any comment on cost of barriers being, um,
[1:29:40]
cost affairs being a barrier for non-writers? Only 2%. Okay.
[1:29:45]
and then was 98% said our, they were, they valued our
[1:29:49]
fair structure. Was this a statistically valid survey or how do we
[1:29:53]
make sure that we were, we got sample size from, uh,
[1:29:57]
majority of the population? Yes, absolutely. As, as me, uh, mentioned earlier,
[1:30:02]
um, survey validity and reliability is important to us. We work
[1:30:06]
with third party vendors, um, to administer the,
[1:30:10]
um, to administer the survey reports. And we always work within
[1:30:14]
nationally accepted validity scores. Are there any
[1:30:18]
ways of how, um, so thank you.
[1:30:22]
are there any, uh, outlets outside of a survey where we are receiving feedback
[1:30:27]
from non-writer and writers to understand, um, how
[1:30:31]
to turn them into writers or how to remove any barriers for them to become writers?
[1:30:36]
yes. Um, I covered some of our surveys, but when we
[1:30:40]
talk about voice of the customer, we get the voice of the customer through many
[1:30:44]
outlets, surveys, focus groups, tele-town halls,
[1:30:48]
um, writer intercepts, so meeting people at the actual bus stops.
[1:30:52]
so voice of the customer is really a matter of how we go about collecting
[1:30:57]
data in a ma in various manners.
[1:31:04]
trustees, any other questions? Uh, I as a follow up to that, and that's where I was
[1:31:08]
going trustee, um, uh, fernandez was, uh, who conducted,
[1:31:12]
do you have, um, the company that did conduct the surveys?
[1:31:16]
yes, we do. So for our customer satisfaction score, uh,
[1:31:21]
customer satisfaction survey, which is administered twice a year, that is done by
[1:31:25]
trans pro, who also does other, um, transit industries within,
[1:31:30]
uh, within the industry. In addition to that, our net promoter
[1:31:34]
score is also administered by trans pro. That's done once
[1:31:38]
a year, and that's an industry-wide standard. Um, I should say that
[1:31:42]
that is a, that's a standard amongst all brands to survey
[1:31:46]
once a year. Um, we have a community value survey
[1:31:50]
that is administered by a company called base bass lease.
[1:31:55]
and lastly, we do a market survey, which is also administered
[1:31:59]
by mark, um, trans pro. So we work with third party vendors
[1:32:04]
to, um, to develop and, um, synthesize data
[1:32:09]
and gather feedback. Great. Thank you very much. Mm-hmm . Uh, trustee
[1:32:13]
question? Sure. Um,
[1:32:19]
outside of, uh, oh, are these surveys only administered
[1:32:23]
digitally or are there any no, ma'am. We, we
[1:32:27]
collect, uh, we collect survey feedback in many different ways.
[1:32:31]
we collect it via, um, bilingual phone,
[1:32:35]
telephone in person, electronically, digitally.
[1:32:40]
um, we understand that we have to meet our customers where they're
[1:32:44]
at, and so thus the way that we collect data is, um,
[1:32:48]
reflective of how our, our, our community is, uh,
[1:32:53]
is structured. Mm-hmm . Absolutely.
[1:32:58]
good. Okay. Thank you.
[1:33:37]
good afternoon, madam chair and trustees, pleasure to be before you today. My name's tramell brown,
[1:33:41]
deputy ceo. Today I'll be talking to you about
[1:33:46]
the operational impact and safety impact of a fair free system and a fair free
[1:33:50]
service. One of the things I'd like to start off with, operator safety
[1:33:55]
is rider safety. A safe system begins with safe operating
[1:33:59]
additions for all of our frontline employees. The biggest thing
[1:34:04]
to remember when operating conditions become more volatile, operator stress
[1:34:08]
increases. When operator stress increases safety
[1:34:12]
risk also increases. More importantly, protecting operator safety
[1:34:16]
protects our rider safety. One of the things I wanted to stress today,
[1:34:21]
it's like you'll see their safety's not negotiable. It's not only our priority, it's
[1:34:25]
something we take very seriously. There's an increase affordability cost that takes
[1:34:29]
place. We've learned this from nationwide examples as well as our own lived experience.
[1:34:33]
most of what you heard from the women and men behind us that spoke, uh,
[1:34:37]
on their experiences happen here in san antonio. These weren't canvassed
[1:34:42]
from agencies from across the country. This was lived experience by people who
[1:34:46]
actually did this job. What's important also, is that listening to our frontline
[1:34:51]
is as important to us as listening to our customer. We canvas their thoughts,
[1:34:55]
we listen to what they have to say. Say we have safety committee meetings. One of the priorities
[1:34:59]
is that, is to be there to support those that support the community that they
[1:35:03]
move. So we have a symbiotic relationship that works well.
[1:35:08]
operators are also essential workers. For those that were here, and remember the era of covid,
[1:35:12]
we were the ones transporting those that were essential to other
[1:35:16]
moving parts of this, this community that we live in. So if we want more service, we
[1:35:20]
must be able to attract and retain operators. Without them, we don't have a transit system.
[1:35:25]
bless you. Next slide. So at this point,
[1:35:29]
I'd like to talk to you about some of the operational impacts.
[1:35:33]
fear free does not eliminate costs. We've already learned the herd already that it shifts them.
[1:35:38]
universal fair free would increase supervision demands and reduce operational predictability,
[1:35:43]
which is something our customers have come to enjoy. They don't only know the operators,
[1:35:47]
they know the bus, they know what time it's gonna get there. They are norms that would be disrupted.
[1:35:52]
one of the things that's important is that resources that are redirected towards
[1:35:57]
expanded supervision or response are resources not invested in service
[1:36:01]
frequency. More importantly, fleet reliability, route
[1:36:05]
expansion or on time performance, increased complexity, makes consistent
[1:36:09]
performance or harder to sustain. So I'm
[1:36:13]
gonna use some, some terms and phrases. So forgive me, uh, for
[1:36:17]
not waxing poetic, but some of these are vernacular that we use in transit.
[1:36:21]
and so I'll, I'll kind of do like a rock scheme across the water and give brief examples
[1:36:26]
and understanding what it is. But I'll yield to any questions that you have before I, I
[1:36:30]
complete my time here. So the first step we have for service adjustments
[1:36:34]
is daily efficiency and service adjustments. And that's on time performance.
[1:36:38]
this will be greatly impacted. Again, this was a lived experience that we saw. It's not
[1:36:42]
something that we estimated. This is due to additional space or buses that are needed
[1:36:47]
due to increased calls for service related to capacity issues. Spacers
[1:36:51]
are a term that we use loosely that we use to provide resources
[1:36:55]
to regulate and deal with bunching and stacking of buses.
[1:37:00]
when one bus starts to run late, it affects the bus behind it. And so we'll use
[1:37:04]
other buses almost like accordions and deploy them from different
[1:37:08]
areas throughout the city that are in the field. And the dispatchers, much like an
[1:37:12]
orchestrated movement, will kind of wave the baton and start to send vehicles
[1:37:16]
all over the city to alleviate congestion. You've seen this happen in the airline industry.
[1:37:21]
we do that every day. There are hundreds and hundreds of people that help us provide
[1:37:25]
the daily miracle that gets most of the people that need to get where they're going,
[1:37:29]
going without even understanding what's going on behind the behind the scenes.
[1:37:34]
so back to the capacity issues that will create standing loads.
[1:37:38]
that means every seat taken the aisle almost completely full.
[1:37:43]
that leads towards pass ups. We have policy, we have procedure
[1:37:48]
that require the operator to call and contact the dispatcher anytime we pass up.
[1:37:52]
anyone that at a service stop, that's our commitment to customer service
[1:37:56]
outreach and impact. And when that call happens, the dispatcher has a couple of options
[1:38:01]
that he or she needs to do. First, let's get that person
[1:38:05]
picked up and addressed. Also, how do I find the people who need to
[1:38:09]
do that? So they start to wheel their magic baton and find the solutions for this.
[1:38:13]
the problem we have with that is these repeat pass up,
[1:38:17]
become service adjustments. People get frustrated, the service reliability
[1:38:22]
is impacted. They're literally watching the bus they would normally get on to get to work on time.
[1:38:26]
pass them by because they can literally see people almost standing at the fair box.
[1:38:30]
we saw this, we lived this experience before.
[1:38:35]
um, one of the things that you also understand is for the calls for service,
[1:38:39]
most often those are bus stoppages. Those are
[1:38:44]
service disruptions. And that's something we're gonna talk about a little bit further as we go on
[1:38:48]
right now. We'll move into the resource management operators is
[1:38:52]
an important resource that we have and operator availability and the use of that is paramount
[1:38:56]
to just getting service out. The transit industry is unlike many where
[1:39:01]
there are actually platforms of work where we have employees that are on
[1:39:05]
the ready just in case someone calls in sick, just
[1:39:09]
in case someone's not able to come and pull that bus out on time.
[1:39:13]
we have someone already standing by that within seconds will
[1:39:17]
get their assignment, go out there, jump in that vehicle, and get to the start
[1:39:21]
point and pick up a customer. And they never knew that wasn't the one that was supposed to pick them up.
[1:39:26]
that's another example of the daily miracle. Whenever we have a
[1:39:30]
situation where we're dealing with a fair free situation like this, we have an
[1:39:34]
increase in those operators, what we call reserves or standbys, and they're always
[1:39:38]
on the ready, but they're also the ones that are used to fill spaces. So
[1:39:42]
if all the operators pull out for the daily pullout that morning, they
[1:39:46]
stay here, they grab vehicles and they go wait in the field. In some areas
[1:39:50]
that we call the hole, if I told you I'd have to kill you, but this is, this is,
[1:39:54]
uh, high transit iq stuff. But these are just areas that we deploy from
[1:39:59]
that are regionally located that help us get there in the most timely manner to some of
[1:40:03]
these places where we, we see a lot of these things happening. We'd have an increase of operators
[1:40:07]
each day just to stand by just to meet the additional demands. In addition
[1:40:11]
to the standard work that we do every day. That would be our
[1:40:15]
new life. If we were to get involved and to move forward into even a pilot program that began,
[1:40:20]
additional buses would be needed, uh, we would have to dip into our spare ratio.
[1:40:25]
the fta requires that we have backup buses on the ready to go out and call
[1:40:29]
for service. It's not acceptable by the ft a to have a transit system that
[1:40:33]
says we're all outta buses. Sorry, we, we we can't pick you up.
[1:40:37]
you're on time. Performance will be affected. So we, we have to have those vehicles always
[1:40:41]
on the ready. But what's worse than that? You have to have the operators to drive the vehicles.
[1:40:46]
and we heard before from the famous dream team before I got here,
[1:40:50]
that we've done well to follow up on what you've asked of us to do. And
[1:40:54]
that's make the priority the people. And in doing so,
[1:40:58]
we have to have a support group that helps that happen as well. There's also
[1:41:03]
additional daily buses that need to be maintained. Service cleaned,
[1:41:07]
the readiness for every single day, that's
[1:41:11]
on top of what we normally do. So to have a fair free system
[1:41:15]
that deals with some of these, and these are just the smallest ripples, uh, of that type
[1:41:19]
of service to provide, we would always have to staff up,
[1:41:24]
reprogram, re-strategize, and move forward. Next
[1:41:28]
step we'll move into the safety and security area. Code
[1:41:32]
of conduct compliance is one of the biggest things that would be the bucket or the
[1:41:36]
box that you heard most from the women and men that came up to speak
[1:41:40]
about what they remember. When we had a situation where we had fair free service that was going on.
[1:41:45]
code of conduct sets the service expectations for all of our customers.
[1:41:49]
it's behavior, the acts, the rules, all the safe service
[1:41:53]
measures that create kind of the decorum, the environment that they're used to. They can
[1:41:58]
tell what's normal by the adherence of that. When people are
[1:42:02]
outside of that, they can tell something's a little bit different today.
[1:42:06]
it's not a regular trip to get where I'm headed to now, operator
[1:42:10]
engagement of code of conduct issues have a greater opportunity
[1:42:14]
for conflict than enforcing the fair. I'll say
[1:42:18]
that one more time. Operator engagement, just them engaging
[1:42:23]
the people who are performing outside of the acceptable code of conduct behavior
[1:42:27]
has a greater opportunity for conflict than enforcing the fair. Because
[1:42:31]
most of them end up with not only a stopped bus, but some
[1:42:35]
being removed from the bus. There's another impact that
[1:42:39]
happens from there. The customers who routinely ride and they're trying to get to those,
[1:42:44]
uh, quality of life opportunities, get to their job, um, get
[1:42:48]
to their, their school, get to medical assistance,
[1:42:52]
these are delays. And what's so bad about is what we saw is they could
[1:42:56]
predict the delays. They could tell that if someone was at a bus stop and
[1:43:00]
they got in with no shoes, no shirt,
[1:43:05]
and some foreign substance just dripping from their body, this is
[1:43:09]
not dramatic, this was just tuesday.
[1:43:14]
they knew that they may not get to work. They would make
[1:43:18]
comments like, keep going, pass 'em up. They
[1:43:22]
just did not want risk, the opportunity to miss, to get
[1:43:26]
to that undisrupted trip that they've grown to be used to. And so during
[1:43:30]
covid, we saw a lot of this that was taking place. Now, the reason that it's an
[1:43:34]
issue more so than the fair is because now it requires the operator to not only
[1:43:38]
stop the bus, they now have to call and communicate with the dispatch, right? Because
[1:43:43]
now it's time to mitigate that. So we'll have a supervisor, someone that will come on board.
[1:43:47]
the operator will employ deescalation training as they get as part of our regular
[1:43:51]
dna. But now they have to engage this individual
[1:43:56]
when they say, why is the bus stopped? And now they've also gotta manage the
[1:44:00]
crowd of people who thought they were going that way. And now they're trying to figure
[1:44:04]
out, is the next bus right behind us, or am I gonna have to get off and just try
[1:44:08]
to walk or find a friend? And so people would start to get their cell phones out all
[1:44:12]
the time. That level of engagement doesn't happen in a fair free
[1:44:17]
situation. I'll tell you why. Because in fair free situations, people
[1:44:21]
come on board, they can state the fair if they don't have it, you know, they can go grab a seat,
[1:44:26]
but literally anybody who's sitting watching a vehicle drive by
[1:44:31]
can just jump on board. They don't even have to have a destination. They just
[1:44:35]
need to have a, a zest for adventure. And they would get in there and they don't know the
[1:44:39]
code of conduct and they caused different types of issues. And it just became a problem that
[1:44:43]
got exacerbated. And we saw that. Now for the pilot
[1:44:47]
fair free program, even in that situation, there's
[1:44:51]
a new level of conflict that the operators never had to deal with. If
[1:44:56]
we were to engage in that, anytime someone who was on one of the free
[1:45:00]
lines, and I'm air quoting here, one of those free lines every time
[1:45:04]
they transferred from that line, right? Because our system
[1:45:09]
is a web of connections. Once they got off of that
[1:45:13]
line and got into a paying line, now we got the old traditional fair
[1:45:17]
conflict. What do you mean I have to pay the other bust didn't charge me. What are
[1:45:21]
you talking about? And we're not talking about market saturation where people understand
[1:45:26]
they had a chance to read, they had a chance to listen. This is just every day.
[1:45:30]
not everyone's gonna play by those rules. And especially people that aren't traditional
[1:45:34]
travelers. It's an adventure for them. So there's a lot of conversation that has to take place. That's
[1:45:39]
a whole nother reintroduction of a, of a fair conflict
[1:45:43]
that happens across the country. Now, most of
[1:45:47]
the code of conducts commonly result in service disruptions where there will
[1:45:51]
be a stopped bus, there will be a supervisor involved, and they'll
[1:45:55]
come and triage a situation, determine does transit police need to get engaged or can
[1:45:59]
they just remove that person from the vehicle, have a conversation with
[1:46:03]
them, educate and inform 'em and decide it's okay if you to jump on the next vehicle behind.
[1:46:08]
that way this bus can continue in service and allow people to make their connections.
[1:46:13]
those are all precipitated by operator call for service and
[1:46:17]
operator doing exactly what they're trained to do. They see something, they say something
[1:46:22]
and they want to get this mitigated to keep the vehicle environment safe. Uh, bus
[1:46:26]
exchange due to sanitary issues. That's something
[1:46:30]
that happened a lot. People would come and bring different types of items on the bus that,
[1:46:35]
uh, have leakage and seepage and things of that nature. And we can't
[1:46:39]
have people sitting in foreign foreign liquids. That means that seed
[1:46:43]
is unusable. We'd have to have people deploy in the field just to intercept
[1:46:47]
that bus, clean that bus so we can still keep the seating capacity as necessary.
[1:46:52]
others include customers that are exiting the bus due to escalating situations,
[1:46:57]
customers not wanting to ride because the environment and reliability of service
[1:47:01]
has completely changed. We literally saw people who were
[1:47:05]
afraid to wait at the bus because the volume of people who lawyered
[1:47:09]
and congregated at the bus stop, they would wait 20, 30, 50
[1:47:14]
feet away and then make their way to the bus after that group decided to
[1:47:18]
get on or off the bus.
[1:47:23]
the most common one that you heard about today, and one that that's memorable from any
[1:47:27]
agency that have lived, uh, this example, uh, is what we're calling
[1:47:31]
day tripping customers. These are destination list customers.
[1:47:36]
some occupy seating in high volume on buses and only exit after
[1:47:40]
engaged by the operator. We literally mean that they are riding
[1:47:44]
from one in the line all the way to the next with no expectation
[1:47:49]
of exiting and then repeating. And they'll do this until
[1:47:53]
someone engages them. Some remain seated at bus stops all day.
[1:47:58]
they congregate and signal the operators that they're waiting for the next bus,
[1:48:02]
rarely ever boarding to get on the bus. Right now, today,
[1:48:06]
in our regular service sweeps our transit police, our supervisors,
[1:48:11]
they'll engage people who are sitting at bus stops, that are watching buses go by. They've
[1:48:15]
missed opportunities to board. And that's an opportunity for us to engage and say,
[1:48:20]
sir, ma'am, this this region, this area you're at is for our customers that are rioting.
[1:48:24]
you know, you want to grab a seat, you know, you could please sit elsewhere. And
[1:48:28]
now we have supervisors that are getting into conflict. This is just the life that we've lived
[1:48:32]
before. Um, so it's reminiscent of that area and that's why you heard some of the energy that was used
[1:48:36]
by some of those that spoke previously. Some ride to stay in the air conditioning environment
[1:48:40]
or simply just escape the weather. If it's raining outside, buses are packed. Nobody
[1:48:45]
wants to get off. And if they get off, they'll get back in the next bus completely
[1:48:49]
wet and just repeat. This keeps going on and on and some ride just to have a
[1:48:53]
safe place to sleep. We see a lot of that. We've had a number of assault and
[1:48:58]
instance that took place from operators who are merely just trying to do a welfare check
[1:49:02]
and just ask, sir, ma'am, are you okay? And the person wakes up and,
[1:49:06]
and just a different place, um, that doesn't
[1:49:10]
fit the surroundings that they're in and have gotten into situations with other customers on board.
[1:49:15]
we also have this, it creates capacity issues, standing lows and calls for
[1:49:19]
service and bus stop loitering. These scenarios have proven problematic
[1:49:23]
for customers. We had call ins, we had calfs. We have the information from
[1:49:27]
what we lived through before. And so I just wanted to be sure that that's the one thing
[1:49:31]
you hear even outside of via outside of our region this day, tripping or what industry term
[1:49:36]
is usually round tripping. That's the first tipping of the scale.
[1:49:43]
then we have this additional security presence.
[1:49:47]
you know, an increase in system security will be needed just to handle the higher volume
[1:49:52]
of on bus concurrent calls for service. If we change nothing else
[1:49:57]
and we have more people using the vehicle, then more at a time and more buses
[1:50:01]
on the road. It's almost a law of averages. Your, it will increase
[1:50:05]
the probability that you'll have more concurrent episodes that you have to address. You
[1:50:09]
have to deal with an issue. Um, bus stop safety calls
[1:50:13]
for service will increase greatly. We saw this before. It was the fact that people were
[1:50:17]
afraid to even go to the bus stop because they weren't sure if the people there
[1:50:22]
were going to ride if they were not. We saw petty crimes
[1:50:26]
increase. You know, unfortunately, um, there are some that prey on those that waited
[1:50:30]
bus stops, uh, and it used to just be a senior citizen thing. Now it's just
[1:50:34]
a crime of availability. And so they know that people who are waiting for the bus generally will have
[1:50:39]
a fair, definitely have a cell phone and just other things that most of us keep
[1:50:43]
close to us just to make our way through the day. And it just became target zones. We
[1:50:47]
actually partnered with sapd to try to address these type of things if we saw those
[1:50:51]
things. And so we continue to work and maintain those relationships. But it, it
[1:50:55]
just takes our, our operators back to a life that they've lived before and it's
[1:50:59]
just not a, a pleasant experience for them. There's also
[1:51:03]
a see something, say something reporting response times increase for suspicious behavior.
[1:51:08]
uh, sleepers, people who did not wanna get off of the bus. People who
[1:51:12]
were performing different types of transactions on the bus. This was a group of individuals
[1:51:16]
that were mixing with people who remember that it used to be okay to
[1:51:20]
just put your head down and take a nap or check your phone, use the wifi
[1:51:25]
or whatever. There's just quality of life interactions that just got engaged on
[1:51:29]
that bus, that it just left people a a bad taste in the mouth.
[1:51:33]
and more importantly, the risk factors. What we have is service quality
[1:51:38]
definitely will be impacted. Service reliability will be impacted. Safe
[1:51:42]
service expectations by our customers. What is the new normal?
[1:51:46]
now, if we have a free fare situation and we go back to standing loads
[1:51:50]
and we're not even getting into the situation that would happen for people with disabilities
[1:51:54]
who are waiting. We've only got two wheelchair locations on
[1:51:58]
that bus and we have people who have used wheelchairs to get to
[1:52:02]
the bus stop and it's not theirs. We won't even talk about how they got it, but
[1:52:06]
they'll use it. And when they realize that there's no more room for the wheelchair, they just leave
[1:52:11]
it at the bus stop and get in and walk in, and then they'll just get off later on. We've
[1:52:15]
seen that again. This is another lived experience. Um, vehicle and bus stop, cleanliness.
[1:52:19]
it just happens anywhere. You have a larger concentration of people. Think of any major
[1:52:24]
city where you have a lot of people living. You're gonna find some issues where,
[1:52:28]
where sanitary conditions need to be addressed, which includes more touch points
[1:52:32]
and the customer sat satisfaction experience. Uh, definitely be impacted.
[1:52:36]
uh, next slide. So some of the budget investment
[1:52:41]
recaps that we've done for safety, uh, through the years that led up to this time that we're
[1:52:45]
in right now, uh, was workforce additional resources as
[1:52:49]
far as security supervisors, operators, things to build a stronger
[1:52:53]
infrastructure. Just allow us to deal with the volume of, of work that we have, right? It's
[1:52:57]
not about just the bus that's traveling down the road. It's the amount of people who are in
[1:53:01]
there, the transferring and everything that takes place. There's a lot of people that are getting where
[1:53:05]
they need to go. Equipment. It was this era that I spoke
[1:53:09]
of where we introduced the operator barrier doors. We did an
[1:53:14]
emergency procurement to make that happen as fast as we could because
[1:53:18]
the operators were getting spit on at a high rate, the highest
[1:53:22]
rate we'd ever seen in our organization's history. Now, I've
[1:53:26]
been involved with safety and a lot of things around here for a lot of years, but
[1:53:30]
I can tell you I cannot recall the volume of people who were just spitting
[1:53:34]
on operators. They were throwing drinks, they were throwing everything. We literally had
[1:53:38]
to start with a curtain system just
[1:53:42]
so there's some type of division between them. It accelerate all the way up to,
[1:53:47]
uh, some of the industry's best and top operator protective barriers.
[1:53:51]
I mean, we didn't just grab the first thing on the shelf. We even found the ones that had the greatest air circulation
[1:53:55]
just to deal with any feeling of of claustrophobia or
[1:53:59]
anything like that. The operators love it. We use a tu to get involved. They literally got to pick the ones
[1:54:04]
that worked. We teamed them up with our maintenance teams. We wanted to make this successful.
[1:54:08]
we wanted to make it work, decrease the spitting greatly.
[1:54:12]
but they still have people that are trying to throw punches. They still have people that are throwing things at the doors.
[1:54:17]
this is something that we put in place because that era spawned
[1:54:21]
that behavior. It's still suitable now. And so we still maintain them. And you'll
[1:54:25]
see the rest of the industry has, has done the same thing. Everyone's working in that, in that same vein,
[1:54:30]
um, as far as equipment, we have dispatcher console and police technology. There's
[1:54:34]
just so much more available now to find the issue,
[1:54:38]
find the solution, and allow them to connect in our standard mo our
[1:54:42]
standard practice. It's not if we have a threat or a crisis or situation
[1:54:47]
that we always have to send the transit police officer there because of
[1:54:51]
our joint law enforcement center. We'll find the first badge and the the first
[1:54:55]
law enforcement individual that's closest and just get them there, even if it's just to hold the
[1:54:59]
situation down. But we've got that vibrant relationship with the, the law enforcement community
[1:55:04]
here, and we, we still enjoy that. Okay? Um, for education
[1:55:08]
and the training and development, deescalation training is something that we champion. We've done it for
[1:55:12]
a long time at a high degree. So much so it's baked
[1:55:17]
into our dna for all brand new operators. We have biannual, uh, refresher
[1:55:21]
classes that are for operators and other employees as well. But deescalation is, is
[1:55:26]
critical. Uh, it's just necessary. We have customer service
[1:55:30]
training, which is very important to us. But more importantly, we're, we're proud to introduce
[1:55:35]
a fact, a collaborative effort between many of us within this room, uh, to
[1:55:39]
bring an ambassadorship, an ambassador level of customer service to make
[1:55:43]
sure that every employee that receives a check that spells
[1:55:47]
via on it has some degree of a customer centric focus
[1:55:51]
in how they deal and welcome and assist any customer who might need
[1:55:55]
anything for. It's just to be way finding or just to find a, a comforting
[1:56:00]
gesture of, hey, you're at the right bus stop. The, the bus should be here shortly.
[1:56:04]
if you didn't know, you can call this number and read that number to 'em and they'll
[1:56:08]
be able to tell you when that bus is gonna come. You could even text the following. And just
[1:56:12]
that level of service is something that's a pedigree that we want to be all about
[1:56:16]
our culture. We've heard that earlier. Also, uh, we're bringing back something that
[1:56:20]
was very successful. Uh, and, uh, just show you right here.
[1:56:27]
this is the, uh, a folder from the s four task force. See
[1:56:31]
something, say something. This was a collaborative effort between
[1:56:35]
across section group of administration,
[1:56:40]
maintenance, hourly employees, the a tu executive board
[1:56:45]
and a number of others that got together. We'd get together every month and
[1:56:49]
we would go through and identify hotspots and systematically go through
[1:56:53]
and clean things up. And you, you'll hear in other conversations, I'm sure
[1:56:57]
in the future, that it was phenomenal. It was birthed, it was spawned during
[1:57:01]
this last situation where we had free fare. We realized it was a service thing that
[1:57:05]
we had to add, um, just to make sure our customers felt
[1:57:09]
welcome to a clean environment. And they didn't have to fear being at bus stops. It literally had
[1:57:13]
operators who would call in for someone that they've passed twice.
[1:57:18]
and that information would go from the dispatcher to the transit police. And that would guide
[1:57:22]
our, our metrics as far as street sweeping and just making context saying, hey,
[1:57:26]
listen, you've been here for a bit. Which bus are you trying to catch with the
[1:57:30]
free fair system? That doesn't work anymore. They can make up a
[1:57:34]
bus number or move one block down and jump on the next bus. Um, the other
[1:57:38]
thing that's important about this is the other safety committees that we have
[1:57:43]
and the, the ease of hazard reporting is something that's also increased, and
[1:57:47]
that's just another example of how we prioritize safety. If we can go to the next slide, please.
[1:57:53]
hiring recruitment and retention is something that, that we're proud of. You know,
[1:57:57]
this board challenged us, uh, in a very positive way to let us know
[1:58:01]
we have to do better. We are not box checking. We, we wanna win this.
[1:58:06]
and so we took that to heart and a number of the folks behind me and everyone
[1:58:10]
else got together and figured it out. We got it done. We've done it so well.
[1:58:14]
we had a chance to start to accelerate the better bus plan. Some of the things that
[1:58:18]
we've talked about with the impact of on time performance, the increasing use
[1:58:22]
of reserve operators, all the women and men that are there to make sure that supplemental bus
[1:58:27]
service still makes us keep the same on time, desirable, uh,
[1:58:31]
headway that people want it, it takes a lot of people. I can tell
[1:58:35]
you right now in front of this full board, that if we were
[1:58:39]
to go for fair free, those net gains that we got from all the hiring,
[1:58:44]
all the buses that we have would then all be given towards
[1:58:49]
supporting that pilot. And if we go beyond that,
[1:58:53]
we won't have those same assets that we needed to continue to accelerate
[1:58:58]
the better bus program. That's something that, that should be
[1:59:02]
said. Uh, it needs to be known. We have the people, but
[1:59:06]
their use has been diverted. And so I'll just briefly go through some
[1:59:10]
of this. It's, it's important for you to understand that this is the culmination
[1:59:14]
of everybody being asked to be bigger and think bigger. And so
[1:59:18]
these solutions, they worked not just a little bit. They worked a lot.
[1:59:23]
and so just to catch up those, we have new trustees that are here. Um,
[1:59:27]
we had to increase job fair participation by moving events to evening hours. They used
[1:59:31]
to be just during working hours when most people are work,
[1:59:35]
right? We just missed a whole demographic of people. Uh, we extended same
[1:59:40]
day contingency offers marketing communications, team support, outreach through
[1:59:44]
media outreach and local news coverage. Right now. You can watch any news
[1:59:48]
station and you'll see there's a job faired via on this night at this time.
[1:59:52]
and that's refreshing to see. We implemented, uh, deferred retirement
[1:59:57]
compensation to retain tenured full-time bus operators. We have a hundred
[2:00:01]
operators enrolled in this, this strengthened long-term workforce ability.
[2:00:06]
it's a program that hr had got together and put their wits there and found a
[2:00:10]
way to say, listen, if you were gonna retire, we may have found a way
[2:00:14]
for you to stick around for another 18 months. And so there's some bonuses involved
[2:00:19]
with that, and it's an aggressive program and it worked great. Um,
[2:00:23]
we also have this where we have enhanced interview protocols and strengthened pre-employment requirements
[2:00:27]
using talent click and dlt, physical and drug screening. We just
[2:00:32]
cleaned up and strengthened some of those thresholds that were there and
[2:00:36]
just made them more efficient, made it easier to get through, but it gave us what we needed to where
[2:00:40]
we can get better candidates that are more customer centric rather than someone who just saw
[2:00:44]
the hourly pay. Um, this greatly reduced their attrition.
[2:00:48]
and then we had the recruiter incentive program, which has done well, but every single
[2:00:52]
thing that you've just heard me mention every last one of them is impacted
[2:00:57]
by this last bullet at this current time right now, today,
[2:01:02]
literally at 7 0 2, I can assure you this. I just heard two today.
[2:01:07]
we already have. And we're hearing concerns from the new hire candidates that just got
[2:01:11]
here, current trainees, existing
[2:01:15]
operators that are working. Some may still be in this room, some may have been here earlier
[2:01:20]
on, whether or not this is the right job for them. This is all anticipation or
[2:01:24]
increased safety concerns related to fair free service. And that conversation
[2:01:28]
has only been around for about three weeks. It's already reaching a saturation
[2:01:32]
point where people are trying to figure out, is this a place I thought I was when I got here.
[2:01:37]
it's obviously changing, and I think that's why you saw some of the, the energy and the effort
[2:01:41]
from those behind me. And I think that may be
[2:01:46]
the last slide. We'll pause for any questions. Uh, madam chair
[2:01:50]
on this section. Any questions? Trustee ?
[2:02:02]
is this it? I'm gonna stay for round two of the applause. ,
[2:02:07]
thank you for your time. Got one. You have one question, justin gillion, I have question. I I
[2:02:11]
think you're the one, um, for the reserve operators. So they may
[2:02:15]
just be here waiting all day. Do they have like a full 40 hour
[2:02:19]
week? Yeah. How many times are on the bus, that sort of thing? We, we do
[2:02:23]
that. That's a great question. There is an entire infrastructure, um, that's in
[2:02:27]
our working conditions. And I'll give you a brief example what it is. Um, that
[2:02:32]
operator, he or she may come in in the morning and be assigned and be here from 4:00 am and be
[2:02:36]
on what we call reserves arbitrary, let's just say till 8:00 am.
[2:02:40]
and if they don't catch out, in other words, if everybody shows up for work and they're a need
[2:02:44]
for that, some of them may be told to come back at a later time. Okay? Or some of them may
[2:02:48]
actually just be given a bus and be sent out to one of the holes to just hang out and
[2:02:53]
wait to be sent out and deployed. One of the things that we do have to augment that
[2:02:57]
irregular lifestyle and workday is what's known as a guaranteed 80.
[2:03:01]
that clause is in our working conditions. What that means is that as long as you show up,
[2:03:05]
as long as you show up and be prepared to work, you don't miss and you're not late.
[2:03:11]
you'll get a paycheck for 80 hours, even if that day you work six and
[2:03:15]
a half or whatever the case may be. It's, it's just the investment, kind of the
[2:03:19]
cost of doing business that this industry actually does to ensure that
[2:03:23]
we can get that bus to that first customer on the first trip of the day. And that's,
[2:03:27]
that came from the old railroad, uh, commission. That's why that term is extra board
[2:03:31]
and reserves. They all come from, from the railroad industry that we began from. So,
[2:03:36]
okay. Thank you. You bet. Trustee howard, just have one
[2:03:40]
question. Yes, sir. You, you talked about the issue of when it was
[2:03:44]
first happening, when there was free riding and the loading of the buses and the unloading.
[2:03:49]
I'm wanna get into the area of obviously the issues that the driver
[2:03:53]
are experiencing could be mentally disturbing, but has there ever been one with a physical
[2:03:57]
assault created some, some, some of, of an injury injury
[2:04:01]
that was medically in that in nature? Absolutely. Um,
[2:04:06]
you know, that that is a yes and not in a, in any small form of the nature,
[2:04:10]
not just here across the entire country. There were entire mandates that came
[2:04:14]
from, uh, the fta, this one and it, you know, kinda getting transit
[2:04:19]
geek language. But sms, which is safety management systems, um, these
[2:04:23]
protocols that came from bipartisan, bipartisan infrastructure bill
[2:04:27]
required agencies to start to track those, uh,
[2:04:32]
identify those at different levels and report that through our national transit database reporting.
[2:04:36]
that way they can just synthesize all the activity across the
[2:04:40]
country and just take the pulse and find out do they need to make greater mandates to keep
[2:04:45]
everyone in this industry doing that job much safer. So by all means, there were some that,
[2:04:49]
that were far more than just verbal and tossing of cups and coffee. Um, there
[2:04:53]
were some that that actually attacked operators, um, some that even
[2:04:57]
off of the bus. We've got cameras and things everywhere, and usually people,
[2:05:02]
uh, who have, uh, warrants or a a police involvement background,
[2:05:06]
they'll wait till they get off of the bus. 'cause the belief is, well, nobody can see me. Well,
[2:05:10]
we've got cameras outside the bus too. Thank you. You bet.
[2:05:14]
trustee flores. Thank you madam chair. Uh, tramell the slide
[2:05:19]
that listed out what you guys have learned from previous,
[2:05:23]
um, times where you had these kinds of disruptions, had service adjustments,
[2:05:27]
resource management, safety, security, and all the risk factors that you outlined for
[2:05:32]
us. Did you have an opportunity to go back and assess what
[2:05:36]
the financial impact was of all of that during that time? In hindsight,
[2:05:40]
were you able to assess a percentage cost to all of those risk
[2:05:44]
factors based on that prior experience? We, we did, and I don't
[2:05:48]
have those numbers in front of me, but what everyone had to do was take a look back
[2:05:53]
once everyone kind of survived covid and just kind of like, whew, we made
[2:05:57]
it. And there was this look back to find out what, what was the destruction, what
[2:06:01]
was the impact? Um, and the ft a and ata, the american public trans association
[2:06:06]
encouraged people to do that. And so everyone galvanized at and and grabbed
[2:06:10]
that information and most of 'em got submitted to, uh, some of the national reporting, like
[2:06:14]
tcrp, uh, trb, these agencies that synthesize all these things.
[2:06:18]
and just to find what does that mean, you know, where was most of the costs and how was
[2:06:23]
it, how was it utilized? Remember there was all types of programs also where you
[2:06:27]
could, uh, get access to dollars, right? To help address some of those burdens
[2:06:31]
that you took. Um, but what your question is about is exactly what
[2:06:35]
led to the ability for everyone to create emergency procurements, to
[2:06:39]
get barrier doors. That was the fastest solution to providing
[2:06:44]
an opportunity for the operators to still want to come to work, uh, and just
[2:06:48]
keep the doors open and keep service moving. But I don't have them in front of me. There, there was
[2:06:52]
a look back to just find out, you know, what was that fiscal hit, uh, to make sure
[2:06:56]
we survive it and, and learned and live well from it. And many of those standards are still there
[2:07:00]
'cause they just became best practice for, because dealing with masses of people.
[2:07:04]
you bet. Trustee flores, our next section actually is going to dive into
[2:07:09]
some of the potential financial impacts on the agency as well. Great. Thank you.
[2:07:34]
good evening, madam chair, board of trustees. I'm jermaine chubb, vp of fiscal
[2:07:38]
management and cfo. I'm going to discuss the, uh, financial impacts of a fair
[2:07:42]
free, uh, policy here. As you've heard, uh, many, excuse me, as you've heard many
[2:07:46]
times tonight and other presentations, a fair free program is not free. There
[2:07:50]
are costs that associated consequences that must be considered. Um, financial
[2:07:55]
impacts are very real and we must have a financially, uh, stable system
[2:07:59]
to deliver on the transformation that our community has told us that they desire
[2:08:03]
by their vote and their ongoing request to this agency. If you look
[2:08:07]
here, our, our, our fair box revenue is integrated into our financial plans
[2:08:11]
that are submitted to the fta. Our fairbox revenue is needed to
[2:08:16]
support our financial capacity and stability, uh, demand divided fta
[2:08:20]
and their ongoing, uh, grants for the, uh, green line.
[2:08:24]
um, I note also that we're currently spending these grant dollars for our green line and
[2:08:29]
we're awaiting a decision on the silver line as well. And so
[2:08:33]
lastly here, it has taken via almost 50 years to get to the point where
[2:08:37]
we are today in, in a financially, uh, resilient state.
[2:08:41]
and via must continue to show that ability to operate and maintain the system for us to,
[2:08:45]
um, for, for decades to come for us to maintain financial
[2:08:50]
support for these capital projects. Moving on
[2:08:54]
to the, uh, next slide here. When management approached the board
[2:08:58]
with our capital and operating plan for approval in, uh, late september
[2:09:03]
of, uh, last year, uh, we showed a $1.1 billion capital
[2:09:07]
improvement plan here. Uh, this plan includes $793 million
[2:09:11]
in spend for ks a and includes spend of course on the, uh, green
[2:09:15]
line, silver line and second o and m facility, those ks a projects there.
[2:09:20]
uh, it also showed, uh, 126 million in spend for revenue vehicles,
[2:09:25]
another $58 million for passenger and operating facilities.
[2:09:29]
and you'll see here that we, uh, set aside $100 million as contingency
[2:09:33]
spend to support the delivery of ksam as required by
[2:09:37]
our federal partners, as we stated, and the cover for the lack of contingency that we
[2:09:41]
have in a multitude of projects that are within this portfolio here.
[2:09:48]
and so you can see by our financial projections here that that plan, and
[2:09:52]
of course, the um, operating spend that we needed to incur with
[2:09:56]
the, uh, next five years here actually yielded, uh, favorable results
[2:10:00]
in terms of achieving the boards are requirements for debt service
[2:10:05]
coverage ratio, and days cash on hand. This is how we determine if a capital plan is
[2:10:09]
affordable for us or not. And so we show here in that green box here, you see
[2:10:13]
that each and every year we achieve at least a 1.3 times or
[2:10:17]
better debt service coverage ratio. That's management's planning
[2:10:21]
threshold. The board's threshold is a slight bit lower than that and we didn't
[2:10:25]
wanna plan to that level, of course, and that threshold is 1.15 times. And so,
[2:10:30]
uh, we were doing good from that standpoint. And then when you look at dave's cash on
[2:10:34]
hand, we achieved 126, well, I'm sorry, 126 days or
[2:10:38]
better in the five year timeframe. The board's threshold is 120
[2:10:43]
days or better. And so we, we achieved that as well. And so the board
[2:10:47]
approved the capital and operating plan for the organization. Now I want to take
[2:10:51]
a look at what would happen if we actually had some impact to our fairbox
[2:10:55]
revenues. And so we'll go over to the next slide here. This slide here shows
[2:10:59]
the results of a full, fair free policy on the organization.
[2:11:04]
so it amounts to this, uh, 5% revenue loss or so. And so
[2:11:08]
you can see here in the, um, chart here that a fair free policy will
[2:11:12]
result in that full $18 million loss. If you just look at
[2:11:16]
our fiscal year 26 budget, we plan for 18 million in spend
[2:11:21]
and fair box revenues, all of that will be wiped away. We made an assumption
[2:11:25]
here that let's just say that we knew that this was gonna be our policy before the
[2:11:29]
year started, and we plan to remove all of the costs associated with fair
[2:11:33]
box collections. And so you see that as a savings here in the chart here
[2:11:37]
above. And then on the operating, um, side of the house, you heard
[2:11:42]
tremmel brown's conversation and presentation about all of the impacts that this
[2:11:46]
fair box, this free fair policy would cost for the organization.
[2:11:50]
and if we wanted to maintain the level of service that this organization
[2:11:54]
desires, there would be quite a bit of cost. And so what we did
[2:11:58]
is we programmed what we, what we believe is a modest 5% impact to
[2:12:03]
our fiscal year 26 operating budget here. And that's that $16.3 million
[2:12:08]
that you see here. I note here below that, that I believe these costs could
[2:12:12]
be within a range of five to 15%. And so at the
[2:12:16]
5% impact on our fiscal year 26 operating budget, we would have a
[2:12:20]
total financial impact of $33 million at
[2:12:24]
that 15% that could be as high as $67 million.
[2:12:30]
and so moving forward to the next slide, this particular slide here shows, uh,
[2:12:34]
partial fair free policy here, or 3% revenue
[2:12:38]
loss. And so in, in this situation, we assume that, um,
[2:12:43]
of course our fairbox revenues, we maintain 40% of our fairbox
[2:12:47]
revenues. And then in terms of the operating impact, we
[2:12:52]
just took a more modest number here, assuming that we'd have slight, um,
[2:12:56]
slightly less impact here. But looking at the numbers here, you could see that
[2:13:00]
you would have the fair box revenue loss of 10.8 million. We would
[2:13:04]
no longer have the fair collection savings because we're still collecting faires.
[2:13:09]
and then we would have about a $9.8 million operational impact
[2:13:13]
on the modest end, resulting in a total financial impact of $20.6 million.
[2:13:19]
the next slide actually goes over the impact of both of
[2:13:24]
those scenarios. And you can see here in the, uh, middle here, we
[2:13:28]
talk about that 4 0 4 fee, uh, policy here, that 5% revenue loss.
[2:13:32]
and, um, you look squarely at the debt service coverage ratio.
[2:13:37]
and over those five years that we talked about fiscal year 26 through 30, where we
[2:13:41]
were showing an achievement greater than the boards required 1.15 times,
[2:13:46]
we now have a minimum within that timeframe of negative one times,
[2:13:50]
meaning that if we had debt service in a particular year of $20 million,
[2:13:54]
our net revenues to pay debt service that year was negative $20 million.
[2:13:59]
and our minimum debt, um, I'm sorry, our minimum days cash on
[2:14:04]
hand in that timeframe was 78 as well. And so the board
[2:14:08]
would not accept that. Management would not accept that we would have to go go back to the drawing
[2:14:12]
board. And so we talk about some actions that we might need to pursue to, uh,
[2:14:16]
cure this. We would need to look at stocking all of our major capital projects,
[2:14:20]
the green line, the silver line, checking on m facility, better bus
[2:14:24]
plan, and or make significant cuts to our operation. And when we
[2:14:28]
talk significant, it would be a major cut to our operations
[2:14:33]
that we have today. Looking at the, uh, 3% revenue loss
[2:14:37]
scenario, similar results. We have a negative 0.2 times debt service
[2:14:41]
coverage ratio. We have negative 71 days cash on
[2:14:46]
hand and of course another, um, program that would not be acceptable
[2:14:50]
by management nor the board standards. And we're still looking at stopping silver
[2:14:54]
line second on m facility, better bus plan and again,
[2:14:58]
and or major cuts to the operation. And one of the reasons that these numbers
[2:15:02]
fall off so significantly is once we get to a point where we
[2:15:06]
are no longer financially, uh, resilient, the ft a is gonna look at that
[2:15:10]
and they're gonna pull all of the grants that they've promised us thus far
[2:15:14]
and what we're planning for in terms of silver lining. So you have to take those out
[2:15:18]
and then we have to overcome that in some manner and we're just unable to do it.
[2:15:25]
and I would say lastly here, and so we, we've shown how it's, it's really
[2:15:30]
unaffordable for the organization to consider this fair free policy, but
[2:15:34]
we also have legal challenges as well. We're actually prohibited from allowing a total fair
[2:15:38]
free, uh, policy here. And so with our fairbox revenue bond
[2:15:42]
issuance on december 1st, 2020, we have a special coveted
[2:15:46]
within that, uh, within that bond agreement that says that no
[2:15:50]
free service of the transit authority shall be allowed to any customer or
[2:15:54]
other person except for children under five years of age who ride pursuant
[2:15:59]
to v's. Policy. And so again, we have
[2:16:03]
an inability to afford the, uh, changes that we talked about. And certainly we have
[2:16:07]
a legal restriction as well. Do you wanna go
[2:16:11]
ahead and go through? Okay,
[2:16:17]
so now I'm going to go over three things. First,
[2:16:21]
the factors that fda evaluates for the overall
[2:16:25]
award of the, uh, capital investment grant. The second one is
[2:16:30]
going to be overall rating for vr, rapid lines
[2:16:34]
and inputs to that, uh, rating. And then the
[2:16:38]
last one, I I will cover impacts to the cig grant
[2:16:42]
due to fear free policy. This chart here
[2:16:47]
shows, uh, it's complex, but it shows the
[2:16:51]
two areas where we look at rating. Um, to be
[2:16:55]
eligible to receive cig construction grant, all proposed projects
[2:17:00]
must go through a multi-year multi-state development process
[2:17:04]
outlined in the law. Fda is required to evaluate and rate
[2:17:09]
cig projects on statutorily defined project justification
[2:17:14]
and local financial commitment criteria. Both are rated 50%
[2:17:19]
and a project must receive at least minimum or above
[2:17:24]
overall rating to advance through the steps in the process
[2:17:28]
and receive construction grant awards. So that's the framework we use.
[2:17:32]
then I'm going to go to the next, uh, step which dwells
[2:17:37]
deeper into local financial commitment.
[2:17:41]
um, as part of the 20 year financial plan that is
[2:17:45]
required to be submitted for the, uh, grant,
[2:17:50]
we look at three areas, the current conditions with capital and
[2:17:54]
operating, uh, condition. Second
[2:17:58]
one, which is most important in today's context is commitment
[2:18:03]
of funds. It includes fairbox revenue, current and projected
[2:18:07]
local sales tax and current and projected any other funds
[2:18:12]
which we might receive. And the third one is reasonable
[2:18:17]
of capital and operating cost estimates, planning assumptions,
[2:18:21]
capital and operating funding capacity, including total debt
[2:18:26]
capacity. All this together helps us look
[2:18:30]
at these where we are today with the rapid green line. We have,
[2:18:34]
uh, a grant agreement, full funding grant agreement with fda
[2:18:39]
basis of which included fairbox revenue
[2:18:43]
and some of the financial germane explained before. And that
[2:18:48]
grant is $268 million
[2:18:52]
silver line. We are in the process of submitting our final
[2:18:56]
grant application, and both projects currently are
[2:19:00]
rated medium high, which made us competitive
[2:19:05]
and eligible to receive this grant next line.
[2:19:09]
so a fair p policy also threatens greenline
[2:19:14]
construction and evaluation of silver line grants as fda requires
[2:19:18]
financial capacity to deliver projects and operate those projects.
[2:19:23]
requirement to demonstrate a sustainable financial plan to fda
[2:19:28]
is a key requirements of sustainable financial plan includes
[2:19:32]
meeting via policies related to debt service
[2:19:36]
coverage, cash in hand, and uh, also demonstrating
[2:19:41]
funding for service and capital needs without
[2:19:45]
impacting the service, the existing service for next 20 years.
[2:19:50]
so we must identify replacement funding sources
[2:19:54]
or cost reduction plan without impacting existing service.
[2:19:59]
if we proceed with fear-free policy.
[2:20:03]
in worst case, our inability to secure local funding sources
[2:20:07]
whether taxes or fair fares as promised in
[2:20:12]
the financial plan, can also, uh, expose us
[2:20:16]
to potential paths in the grant for, uh, green line
[2:20:20]
construction so they can stop, draw down our existing grant,
[2:20:25]
or in the worst case, terminate grant agreement for the green line.
[2:20:30]
it also, uh, may ask us if we cannot have
[2:20:34]
local, uh, sustainable financial plan in the two
[2:20:38]
scenarios that jermaine mentioned, they might ask us to
[2:20:42]
repay those grant uh, awards. This also
[2:20:46]
jeopardizes our silver line grant award.
[2:20:52]
madam chair. With that, we're glad to pause and take any questions about the financial implications.
[2:20:57]
trustees, any questions on the financials? No,
[2:21:02]
we are good. Thank you so much.
[2:21:10]
and then priscilla's going to join for the last section of this presentation.
[2:21:27]
good evening. My name is priscilla ingle, senior vice president of customer
[2:21:31]
support, customer care and support. And we're here to talk to you about the fair
[2:21:35]
programs that we offer to the community for those who are seeking,
[2:21:39]
uh, access to our service. We have for decades provided affordable
[2:21:43]
transportation with numerous discounts for the community. And I can tell you
[2:21:48]
that over the decades that I've been here, we've really been very progressive
[2:21:52]
in providing services so that no one, uh, doesn't
[2:21:56]
have the opportunity to use a service to get where they need to go. So we do have
[2:22:00]
existing discounts in place and we also have a very robust program
[2:22:05]
that we partnership that we have with area nonprofits for them to
[2:22:09]
be able to acc have their clients access service as well.
[2:22:13]
the partnerships are welcomed. We're glad that we are able to work with partners
[2:22:18]
and with, but to be able to do that, we need to have funding in place, and
[2:22:22]
that's where the fair comes in and we reinvest it so that we can put
[2:22:26]
other programs in place to help those in need. Next
[2:22:30]
slide. So this, uh, gives you a snapshot of what our faires look
[2:22:34]
like today. And while they may look reasonable to all of us, there
[2:22:38]
are unfortunately some communities that can't afford fair, but we do have
[2:22:43]
programs where we can help them get where they need to go and be able
[2:22:47]
to use a service. But as you can see on this screen, we've got
[2:22:51]
four year children. Four years are younger, ride for free children, five
[2:22:55]
to 13 can ride at half fair. The via trans rider can always use
[2:22:59]
our fixed route service free, and they can also take a
[2:23:03]
personal care attendant with them free as well if they ride the bus. And we
[2:23:07]
last adjusted our fares in 2015. So it's been a while since we've,
[2:23:11]
uh, been able to increase our fares, but that kind of has been intentional. We've put
[2:23:15]
other things in place to help us, uh, work with our customers to get them where they need
[2:23:19]
to go with and without them having to feel the, the pain of having
[2:23:23]
to spend more money than they have. Next slide. So this
[2:23:28]
gives you a snapshot of the, uh, discounts that we have. And, uh,
[2:23:32]
we're, uh, our team spends a lot of time, uh, growing
[2:23:36]
the programs that we have in place. We have our, um,
[2:23:40]
semester pass that we offer to college students. Originally
[2:23:45]
it was just targeted to students attending college, but then,
[2:23:49]
uh, as we worked with the various institutions and colleges, they said,
[2:23:53]
hey, can we extend that to our faculty and staff? And we were able to do that.
[2:23:58]
so the tuition, the, the colleges pay $2 and 50 cents
[2:24:02]
per student faculty or staff member per semester, and they have
[2:24:07]
access to via service throughout the, that school semester. In
[2:24:11]
fact, we've even extended it. So, uh, the, when the school
[2:24:15]
starts, uh, in the fall, and really the passes are really available
[2:24:19]
to them come august the first, and they run through the end of december.
[2:24:24]
and I will tell you that we'll start getting calls from the students saying, hey, is my
[2:24:28]
school already enrolled in the program? 'cause they wanna have access to this service.
[2:24:32]
um, the colleges that are engaged right now with us, alamo
[2:24:37]
community district colleges, ut san antonio, texas
[2:24:41]
a and m, and we were, uh, just able at the start of january
[2:24:45]
to also onboard the ut uh, medical school. So they're now,
[2:24:49]
uh, members where, and all of these campuses allow the faires
[2:24:53]
to be available not only to the students, but also to their faculty and
[2:24:57]
staff and the same host through with the medical school. Everybody who's working there or
[2:25:02]
attending classes is using, um, the service as well. And,
[2:25:06]
uh, we, we really consider what we're doing as partners. Every,
[2:25:10]
uh, we are engaged with the campuses, but we're also engaged with the businesses that we work
[2:25:14]
with. So for our area employers, any business that wants
[2:25:19]
to provide, um, passes or service to their
[2:25:23]
employees, they have to have at least 25 employees. And if
[2:25:27]
they do and they purchase passes for all of their employees, they pay $82
[2:25:32]
annually to have their employee have access to service.
[2:25:36]
um, if they're a government agency in both bexar county and, uh, the city of san
[2:25:40]
antonio, our part of the program, they pay $60 per annual,
[2:25:44]
uh, per year per employee. What we also do with the
[2:25:48]
businesses, because they are making that investment into their employee, if an employee leaves
[2:25:53]
the company, we will work with them. And when they, uh, when they backfill
[2:25:58]
that position, then that, that pass will then be transitioned over
[2:26:02]
to the new employee. So they don't really ever lose out on any funding.
[2:26:06]
and, um, our staff is very dedicated to working with these companies. Once they're
[2:26:10]
a partner with us, we want them to stay. And so we make certain that we, um,
[2:26:15]
work with them any way we can to make it convenient for them with the investment they're
[2:26:19]
making. So we're pleased to report that on the upas side,
[2:26:23]
we have just over a hundred thousand student faculty and staff
[2:26:27]
that can access the program. And that changes depending on, uh, what the
[2:26:31]
attendance is looking like and the employment looks like at the start of the semester. But,
[2:26:35]
uh, we've got over a hundred thousand people that have access to the program.
[2:26:39]
and then on our, on our employer site, we have 156
[2:26:44]
employers who are working with us on the vo works program. And we
[2:26:48]
do have a team that is out every day working with companies,
[2:26:52]
uh, to get them engaged with us in some way. And we will also,
[2:26:57]
we don't just sign 'em up and walk away, we're there for the long haul. So if they need flyers,
[2:27:01]
if they need passes, if they're having an event on their,
[2:27:05]
at their, uh, facility and they want us there, we will be there. And sometimes we
[2:27:10]
also, uh, make the effort to come up with things that we can do
[2:27:14]
to be there with them and be a good partner. Next slide.
[2:27:18]
so we also have reduced, uh, reduced and discounted fare
[2:27:22]
for our seniors. Uh, that has been in place for quite some time,
[2:27:27]
but we in the last, uh, few years have made it even better for
[2:27:31]
the senior because we used to, they, you would have a half fair pass that they
[2:27:35]
could use to ride. But what we did in recent years is
[2:27:39]
we've opted to allow them to ride free on the weekends, and
[2:27:43]
they pay 25 cents from, uh, 9:00 am to, to 3:00 pm
[2:27:48]
so it's very affordable for them to be able to use the service.
[2:27:53]
and, uh, we too, we visit a lot of senior facilities.
[2:27:57]
we go to a lot of senior fairs with the intent of,
[2:28:02]
uh, promoting the service so they can take advantage of that. And then for underprivileged
[2:28:06]
community, we started a few years back what we call a fair assistance program.
[2:28:11]
any 5 0 1 c3 nonprofit social service organization or governmental
[2:28:15]
agency that's working with people who are underserved or have
[2:28:20]
live in low income can purchase, uh, passes from us
[2:28:24]
at a discount of 25%. And they can determine what
[2:28:28]
type of fares they wanna be, if they wanna wanna sell, if they want have available
[2:28:32]
to their seniors, if they want it to be a day pass, um, monthly pass,
[2:28:37]
we will, uh, sell them to them in bulk. And then they provide them to their,
[2:28:41]
um, their, they provide them to the people that they serve.
[2:28:45]
and we've got 126 agencies who have purchased,
[2:28:49]
uh, these who have participated in the program. And we're pleased to report that when we
[2:28:53]
launched this program in 2019, we've sold over $3 million in
[2:28:58]
fair to date, just with that program alone. And there again, we,
[2:29:02]
we, uh, make sure that we are engaged with these organizations. We're
[2:29:06]
there for them. If they need us, they need flyers, we'll give that to them. If they're having
[2:29:10]
an event, they need us there, uh, with them, we will do that. Uh, but
[2:29:14]
we spend a lot of time making certain that all of these
[2:29:19]
agencies that we serve are being served by us in the best way possible so
[2:29:23]
that they can have their, uh, clients and customers and employees
[2:29:28]
get where they need to go. And so this list
[2:29:32]
here, um, and I know it's a little kind of distorted,
[2:29:36]
but, uh, this is a list of the 126, uh,
[2:29:40]
agencies that we work with. And we do call them strong partnerships.
[2:29:45]
uh, we wanna help them as much as we can. Uh, but this is the a hundred twenty, a hundred twenty six
[2:29:50]
that we have to today. We get calls every week from an agency
[2:29:54]
saying, can you help us? We need passes. Uh, we started this program.
[2:29:59]
we started it, we started it with the brook hill baptist church. They,
[2:30:04]
uh, came to us. They needed just a small number of passes 'cause they were
[2:30:08]
trying to get the homeless off the street into their churches to get fed. And,
[2:30:12]
uh, from that one person that came to us, and she was very persistent about
[2:30:16]
getting us to work with her, it's grown into what we have today. But every week
[2:30:20]
we're getting calls from nonprofits. We make it very quick and easy for them to,
[2:30:25]
um, participate in our programs. They just have to give us their 5 0 1 c3,
[2:30:29]
fill out a quick form, and then, uh, we consider them our partner
[2:30:33]
and we start working with them, um, in whatever capacity we can to make it
[2:30:38]
a success for them as well. And
[2:30:42]
what we can also tell you is that 40% of our rider are,
[2:30:46]
are, are riding on reduced fare. And that's, uh,
[2:30:50]
quite a number. When you look at, um, how many people that we're serving, that
[2:30:54]
40% of them are riding on a reduced fare. And that number could grow because,
[2:30:58]
you know, we've got a community that we know needs assistance, but we're here to help them.
[2:31:02]
we've always been, uh, if somebody comes to us with a concept
[2:31:07]
for a new idea on how to, uh, process fair or distribute fair,
[2:31:11]
uh, we listen and we talk to people. Um, I will give
[2:31:15]
you a quick story. Toyota had a fair grant to, they had
[2:31:19]
a grant to purchase fares from us, from us, which they did. After
[2:31:23]
they went through the program with us, they found that the end of, of the term of
[2:31:28]
u of using that grant, that they had $15,000 left, that
[2:31:32]
they weren't going to be putting towards fair. So they asked our
[2:31:36]
team, do you think you would want that money and use it?
[2:31:40]
and so he said, yeah, we'll take the $15,000 and we use that money
[2:31:45]
for random people that call us or a small agency in need, and we will give
[2:31:49]
them the passes they need through that $15,000 that's made available to
[2:31:53]
us. In fact, when the new, um, when we, uh, launched
[2:31:57]
with, uh, councilman gto in the city of san antonio, the semester pass
[2:32:01]
program, we had a parent call us. They have, they had three students,
[2:32:05]
but they were outside of the age range. The ages
[2:32:10]
are 12 to 18 for the semester pass. These children were like
[2:32:14]
nine, 10, and 11, and they didn't have fair, and they were asked, called
[2:32:18]
us and asked us can we somehow get passes for our three
[2:32:22]
children. And so we just dipped into that fund. We said, we will give you the semester
[2:32:26]
passes through a grant that we have available to us. And the parent came up,
[2:32:31]
got their passes, and their kids are now going to school, and they didn't
[2:32:35]
have to, um, do anything else to try to get that fair available
[2:32:39]
to them. So, uh, we're always looking for opportunities. We always make
[2:32:43]
ourselves available to talk to anybody who may need services from us to see how
[2:32:47]
we can work together. And I think that's my
[2:32:52]
madam chair. We're glad to pause on for any questions on this section. Trustees, trustee,
[2:32:56]
dealer. One question. Yes, thank you. One question, please. How old does a child have to be to
[2:33:00]
be able to ride by themselves? Uh, they have to be, uh, over,
[2:33:05]
they have to be, uh, 10 or 12, 12 and above.
[2:33:09]
yeah. They have to be with a parent if they're any younger or
[2:33:13]
our guardian or an adult has to be with them. Mm-hmm . Trustee
[2:33:18]
cooper. Thanks, priscilla. That was great. Um, I
[2:33:22]
think one of the other big things we've done, um, is
[2:33:27]
we got rid of transfer fees.
[2:33:31]
yes. And that that's another I yes. You know, of all the things we do that. Right. That
[2:33:35]
was a big one I felt mm-hmm . You know, in addition to not raising the fares
[2:33:39]
since. Right. Could you just give the room just a little bit of
[2:33:43]
what impact that had? Well, because the customers were having to
[2:33:48]
pay for any transfer that they got, they'd have to pay fair, I think it was 15 cents at the
[2:33:52]
time. And so that was a burden on some people to be able to have to pay that fair
[2:33:56]
when they, um, boarded the bus when they were just making a transfer. So
[2:34:00]
we eliminated that and they no longer have to do that. One thing I, I will
[2:34:04]
bring up, it's, it's premature, but I think it al also falls into
[2:34:08]
the category affairs and, um, it's, we'll bring it
[2:34:12]
back to the board later, but we will be introducing a concept called
[2:34:17]
fair capping that will happen, uh, down the road as we
[2:34:21]
get, uh, finalize what we're doing with our, uh, fair, our fair boxes.
[2:34:25]
and what that'll do is it'll cap a customer's fair. So if somebody
[2:34:29]
boards the bus and they pay a dollar 30 and they're making an, uh, they're
[2:34:33]
transitioning to another bus, they're paying another another dollar 30,
[2:34:38]
and they make another trip that day, they're already ma they already
[2:34:42]
have hit the co the price of a day pass. So then their,
[2:34:46]
their, um, their fare will turn into a day pass and they can continue riding the fares
[2:34:51]
cap for that day. And it'll do the same thing if somebody rides multiple
[2:34:55]
times on a monthly or a weekly pass. Uh, we're still,
[2:34:59]
uh, getting all of that together, but we'll bring that back in the future to let you know how
[2:35:03]
that works. But that's going to be another incentive to get people to ride and not
[2:35:07]
to feel the stress of having to pay per trip.
[2:35:12]
vice chair gomez. Thank you, madam chair.
[2:35:16]
just for a matter of emphasis, actually, um,
[2:35:20]
we've not had fair increases in over 10 years. Yes,
[2:35:25]
that is true. Right. Uh, and secondly, we have over 126
[2:35:30]
nonprofit partners mm-hmm . For discount programs and in some
[2:35:34]
cases fair fee programs. Right. For targeted populations. Right. Because those
[2:35:38]
fair, the while the agency buys the fair, the the person they're
[2:35:42]
helping is getting the fair for free. Right. They're giving it to them. So via is getting
[2:35:46]
compensated for the service yes. But the nonprofit is facilitating
[2:35:51]
the free service for their client. Exactly. Okay. Thank you.
[2:35:58]
trust. Uh, one last question. Of the 120
[2:36:03]
plus partners, can we get a list of your, your top five, type
[2:36:07]
10? Yes, we can do that. Agencies just curious to see where they are. Is it the housing,
[2:36:12]
is it the, uh, supportive services and categorize that against, um, critical
[2:36:16]
issues, um, that the city faces? Exactly. We can do that for you. Definitely.
[2:36:20]
very good, thank you. Okay. Madam chair, one thing we did also wanna
[2:36:24]
point out on this slide, uh, down at the bottom of the screen for the board,
[2:36:28]
while priscilla did mentioned that 40% of our customers are paying that already reduced
[2:36:32]
fair price, that equates to 61 cents to
[2:36:36]
ride the bus off of our normal dollar 30 fare.
[2:36:41]
so just wanted to put that in perspective as well.
[2:36:45]
thank you leroy. Uh, any other questions?
[2:36:50]
okay, thank you.
[2:37:00]
okay. Um, so now we're gonna bring this back around as we are indicating
[2:37:04]
from the very beginning that, you know, this type of policy consideration
[2:37:09]
had a great deal of complexities and impacts throughout
[2:37:14]
our organization. And to that, we have a summary here that we'd like
[2:37:18]
to show the board that brings us all back together.
[2:37:22]
so any organization you can break into three major categories,
[2:37:27]
um, you, you're always gonna be, you're always gonna have the culture, you're always gonna have
[2:37:31]
strategy, and you're always gonna have the financial health of in any organization.
[2:37:35]
so what we are seeing is a high risk on our culture. We've heard that today. We
[2:37:39]
keep hearing that, uh, over and over again for our employees,
[2:37:43]
um, and our safety foundations that we have. We're assigning that as a high risk,
[2:37:48]
uh, to our culture. We have worked very hard over the last 12
[2:37:52]
months to establish a culture that believes in the building of what
[2:37:56]
we're doing and the transformative efforts of what we're doing here, uh, for our
[2:38:00]
agency and for our community that matters. And we don't
[2:38:04]
take it lightly as management. I want to personally thank the
[2:38:08]
operators that are still here and the operators that are in this room for showing up today
[2:38:13]
and letting us know their thoughts on this matter. Secondly,
[2:38:18]
strategy. Strategy is indeed something that's driving any organization and
[2:38:22]
identifying those priorities and the system priorities we have. We have set that
[2:38:26]
as to deliver fast, safer, more reliable system. We
[2:38:31]
see this policy as a high risk a against that, against
[2:38:35]
our strategy. And then of course, we saw a financial
[2:38:39]
health moment, uh, check in, uh, our short term and long term
[2:38:43]
stability. We also are assigning that as a high risk, uh, for this
[2:38:47]
policy. We'll go to the next slide here and we'll, we'll emphasize
[2:38:52]
that those three areas, those three foundations do not operate
[2:38:56]
by themselves. It is indeed an interdepartmental system.
[2:39:01]
and weakening any of those would weaken the other two.
[2:39:05]
and in this case, we feel that all three would be weakened and
[2:39:09]
the acceleration of that decline for organization, uh, would be real.
[2:39:14]
and that's what we've heard here today. So as a result, our
[2:39:18]
last slide that we have on this is we're asking the board to protect
[2:39:22]
the foundations that we're building. We're asking the board to consider to protect
[2:39:26]
the culture, continue to execute our strategy, and secure
[2:39:30]
our long-term stability. After reviewing fair free concept to our
[2:39:34]
legal, financial, regulatory, safety and operational and customer lenses staff does
[2:39:39]
not recommend pursuing a fair free pilot or system-wide fair free program.
[2:39:44]
staff recommends maintaining focus on vias adoptive strategy to build
[2:39:48]
a transit system people choose to use by continuing to invest frequency,
[2:39:53]
reliability, safety, and long-term stability.
[2:39:57]
a moment of comment here also is it's not so much about what we're saying no to. Instead,
[2:40:01]
it's about what we're saying yes to by saying yes,
[2:40:06]
to invest in service, quality, safety, and financial stability. We are creating
[2:40:10]
a reinforcing cycle in the opposite direction where we will
[2:40:14]
have and continue to build a strong culture, we will have a strong
[2:40:19]
strategy delivery, which we are already experiencing, and
[2:40:23]
we are gonna maintain our strong financial health. This is how we build
[2:40:27]
a system that people choose. Thank you.
[2:40:38]
thank you john. Gary and staff appreciate that. Um, thorough presentation,
[2:40:43]
uh, led with a lot of, uh, data for us to consider. Uh, I'm gonna turn this
[2:40:47]
over to trustee cooper who was asked for the floor. Okay.
[2:40:51]
thank you madam chair. I also want to thank the management team
[2:40:55]
for the thorough fact-based analysis that they brought forward
[2:40:59]
today. Um, I also wanna acknowledge the thoughtful discussion among my fellow
[2:41:04]
trustees as well. We all share the same goal, improving
[2:41:08]
our transit system by making our service faster, more reliable and
[2:41:12]
safer. That said, the board has a fiduciary
[2:41:16]
responsibility to govern this agency in a way that protects the
[2:41:20]
long-term health of the transit system, not just for today,
[2:41:24]
but for the next generation of writers. After careful
[2:41:29]
consideration, I believe it's clear that pursuing a fair
[2:41:33]
free model under v's current legal financials, regulatory
[2:41:37]
and safety framework would introduce risk that we should not
[2:41:42]
assume we have heard about the legal constraints tied to our revenue
[2:41:46]
structure. We have heard about the financial risk and the pressure this would place
[2:41:51]
on our operating and capital plans. We have heard about the
[2:41:55]
regulatory and federal funding implications at a moment when our community
[2:41:59]
is counting on us to deliver transformative projects.
[2:42:04]
and we have heard from our frontline employees, particularly, particularly
[2:42:08]
our operators, about the safety concerns that, uh, fair free
[2:42:12]
environments can create for them and for our riders
[2:42:18]
taken together, these risk outweigh the potential benefits of
[2:42:22]
a fair free under our current conditions. For those reasons,
[2:42:27]
I believe this board should provide clear direction to our staff.
[2:42:31]
we should direct via management to not further pursue or analyze
[2:42:36]
a free fair proposal. I'm sorry, fair free proposal at this time.
[2:42:41]
um, instead we should remain focused on what our community has asked
[2:42:45]
us to deliver a transit system that is faster, more reliable,
[2:42:49]
safer and more useful in connecting people to opportunity.
[2:42:54]
that's how we honor the trust of our rider. The commitments
[2:42:58]
made to our votes, made to our voters and the responsibility we
[2:43:02]
have given as stewards of this public system.
[2:43:06]
we can and should continue to support targeted affordability programs
[2:43:11]
and partnerships that help the most in need, but should
[2:43:15]
not compromise the long-term stability of the system that their entire
[2:43:19]
community depends on. Therefore, I move that via
[2:43:23]
metropolitan transit board of trustees, having reviewed the analyst
[2:43:27]
presented by management and having considered the legal financial,
[2:43:32]
regulatory, safety and operational implications of fair free
[2:43:36]
transit model, hereby determines that pursuing a fair free
[2:43:40]
pilot or system-wide fair free program is not in the best
[2:43:44]
interest of via metropolitan transit. Further, I move the board
[2:43:48]
direct via staff to discontinue any further analysis,
[2:43:52]
development, or pursuit of fair free proposals under
[2:43:56]
vias operating authority. And instead to continue focus on
[2:44:01]
organizational resources on delivering the voter approved and board
[2:44:05]
adopted system improvements including enhanced frequency, reliability,
[2:44:10]
safety, and implementation of transformative capital
[2:44:14]
investments that benefit the entire community.
[2:44:23]
do we have a second? I will second this as
[2:44:27]
a writer of via I ride
[2:44:32]
via I do not believe in fear free. So I second this motion
[2:44:36]
a, uh, vice chair gomez.
[2:44:41]
thank you madam chair. I, um, as I reflect on all
[2:44:46]
the information that's been presented here for us today, I can't help but think of a phrase
[2:44:50]
that we all probably are somewhat familiar with or have heard before. And
[2:44:54]
that is the phrase, a solution looking for a problem.
[2:44:58]
and that is what has been proposed by our mayor and a couple
[2:45:02]
of our council members. And I say with all due respect to them that
[2:45:06]
that's what their proposal is. It's a solution looking for a problem,
[2:45:11]
a problem that we do not have. Madam chair and trustees affordability
[2:45:16]
is not an issue regarding our fares at
[2:45:20]
via. Terry made it abundantly clear with her data
[2:45:24]
as to what our writers think, and that is nowhere near the top
[2:45:28]
of their consider their concerns for our organization, uh, on
[2:45:32]
that alone. What our writers want, uh, is all
[2:45:36]
I need to know to support the motion that is on the table. And I look
[2:45:40]
forward to doing so. Thank you, trustee. Trustee, uh, fernandez.
[2:45:47]
thank you, madam chair. Um, I agree.
[2:45:51]
um, I think thank you staff for bringing a lot of great information and for,
[2:45:55]
uh, continue on with the momentum that via has been, uh,
[2:45:59]
executing in the last year or years and keeping, uh,
[2:46:04]
reaching and exceeding, uh, the goals set. Um, it's definitely
[2:46:08]
an exciting time for via, for san antonio residents.
[2:46:12]
um, I do, I think having this conversation is
[2:46:16]
a great conversation to look at. What are some of the barriers that san antonio
[2:46:21]
residents and via writers face on a day to day basis? Um, understanding
[2:46:25]
the quality of life and reaching a quality of life is increasing
[2:46:29]
access to opportunities to, um, connection
[2:46:34]
to jobs, health, and to thrive. Um, understanding
[2:46:38]
that for some, a fair might be a, uh, a barrier, but
[2:46:42]
I think after hearing our conversation today, it is clear to
[2:46:46]
me that the priority for via now is to continue that momentum of
[2:46:51]
providing a better service, of providing, uh, access to a
[2:46:55]
transit system that is closer and better to our san antonio
[2:46:59]
residents so that we can invite more non riders. Um,
[2:47:03]
I, I look forward to continue learning how we can get more,
[2:47:07]
um, san antonio residents to, to ride via and
[2:47:11]
to better offer an opportunity for them. Um, but I do think that,
[2:47:15]
uh, in addition to all of the information and data that staff presented, the goal
[2:47:20]
is clear. That is to provide a better service to, to writers and to
[2:47:24]
invite more san antonio residents, uh, to use it because it is a better
[2:47:28]
service, because it feels free and because they have more access, uh,
[2:47:32]
to increase their connectivity. Thank you trustee.
[2:47:36]
trustee grina. Thank you. Uh, madam
[2:47:41]
chair. Um, thank you staff, uh, all of the hard work you put in
[2:47:45]
to help, uh, not just us, but the public understand, uh, kind
[2:47:49]
of the behind the scenes part of, of the impact of a decision like this.
[2:47:53]
and, uh, I will say, I think it is a worthy conversation to discuss how we
[2:47:58]
can more equitably, uh, provide transportation and remove
[2:48:02]
those barriers to increase access to transportation. I think everybody in this room would support
[2:48:07]
measures to remove barriers to transportation. Um, however, I don't know
[2:48:11]
if a consumer facing tax is, is the answer to provide it. And,
[2:48:15]
um, the other thing I will say is that I firmly believe that everyone in
[2:48:19]
this room has come with good faith. Uh, but I do want us to be careful how
[2:48:24]
we talk about our neighbors, specifically our most vulnerable
[2:48:28]
neighbors. Um, everyone deserves dignity. And so, um, I do think everybody
[2:48:32]
comes with that. But as I hear this conversation, and to your point, uh, vice
[2:48:36]
chair, it seems like our city isn't necessarily dealing
[2:48:40]
with an issue of access to transportation. It is dealing with
[2:48:45]
an investment, a robust enough investment in mental health supports and
[2:48:49]
access to housing in access and support for our houseless population. And so
[2:48:53]
I'm looking forward to the conversation of the city council and of the mayor
[2:48:57]
and how they are going to direct more of their budget to supporting those things, because that
[2:49:02]
is what seems to be causing the safety issues for our drivers, for our,
[2:49:06]
for our system. And I will say, um, as somebody who frequently goes to
[2:49:10]
school boards and says, our working conditions, our students' learning conditions,
[2:49:14]
I firmly agree that the working conditions of our operators are the
[2:49:18]
conditions of our other riders. And so, again, I look forward to a more robust
[2:49:23]
investment in some of those other things like mental health, those foundational pieces
[2:49:27]
that will then make a free fair system, uh, I think more palatable,
[2:49:31]
uh, and, and sustainable to, to folks that operate, but also folks
[2:49:35]
that ride. Um, I would also be interested in looking at ways that we can
[2:49:40]
expand some of these partnerships. Uh, again, working in a school district, uh,
[2:49:44]
and my partner, she is a social worker for our school district. She is frequently asking
[2:49:48]
for those passes for students. And so making sure every mckinney-vento person,
[2:49:53]
uh, student in our school system has access to this, making sure that,
[2:49:57]
uh, ready to work, right. If you apply for ready to work and you are now enrolled and ready
[2:50:01]
to work, why do you not have access to this? I think it's also easy if we wanted
[2:50:05]
to pilot free fare to just look at medicaid, look at who's
[2:50:09]
receiving snap benefits, we can target this support in a much more meaningful
[2:50:13]
way to, to address the issue that I think the city and the mayor is looking to
[2:50:17]
address. But it seems like, again, from operators, from management, from the folks
[2:50:21]
who are experts in this field, that this is not the, the, the best
[2:50:26]
approach. And it seems somewhat rushed in that sense, but again, I, I'm more interested in,
[2:50:30]
in looking forward to the robust conversation from the city about how to invest in our houseless
[2:50:34]
population and our mental health supports for our community. Thank you.
[2:50:39]
thank you. Trustee reina. Trustee howard? Yes, trustee. Thank,
[2:50:43]
thank you, madam chair. You did hit on something that I, that I think is absolute absolutely correct
[2:50:47]
and want to be sensitive to those, to the issues of the individuals in our community
[2:50:51]
that have challenges is that to some degree, maybe not, they're not have, they don't have as much control
[2:50:56]
over it. But one of the things that, from my perspective as a board member is
[2:51:00]
one of the most important roles that we have is for the employees that work for
[2:51:04]
via, we want them to arrive and to return to their families the same
[2:51:08]
way that they got here with no dispar, no disparaging of, of
[2:51:12]
anyone else. Uh, but with that, I think, you know, getting back to your, your three
[2:51:17]
circular points, john, that is a high key to me and I, but I also agree
[2:51:21]
with you that there is plenty of other opportunities to try to find ways to
[2:51:25]
specifically get down to other areas of need and access
[2:51:29]
to via, at a reduced rate that actually
[2:51:34]
benefits both via and the right client.
[2:51:38]
thank you. Thank you. Thank you, trustee howard? Uh,
[2:51:42]
trustee . Yeah. This is my first meeting, but boy did
[2:51:47]
I learn a lot. . You're welcome. It was a good one. First of all, I need
[2:51:51]
to applaud the audience and all of those who stayed late. And what
[2:51:55]
it reflects to me is it's a team effort from your
[2:51:59]
transit employees that are here, uh, the team that presented
[2:52:04]
so eloquently and so completely, I learned a lot.
[2:52:08]
so I need tolo, uh, applaud all of you because it's truly
[2:52:12]
a team effort. And I think going forward, it's nothing. We're going
[2:52:16]
up and we learned a lot of what we can do and what we can't do, but
[2:52:21]
we're in unison in doing that, and it's a team effort. Thank you.
[2:52:30]
no other comments, trustees? Okay. Uh, this has been
[2:52:34]
a, a great conversation. And again, I wanna thank staff and management for,
[2:52:39]
uh, you know, over the course of the last couple of weeks, prioritize,
[2:52:44]
quite frankly, the response that, um, has been asked of us.
[2:52:48]
uh, and it's, it's something that doesn't go, um, without saying
[2:52:53]
that this is the partnerships that we have, the key stakeholders,
[2:52:57]
um, in this region are important to us. Without those key stakeholders,
[2:53:02]
we cannot move forward, right? And so, uh, I appreciate, uh,
[2:53:06]
your robust, um, and swiftly, uh, swift action
[2:53:10]
in bringing this to the board and scrubbing some of the other, uh, priorities
[2:53:14]
that we were gonna consider today. Uh, because this is an important subject, right, that we
[2:53:19]
wanna take and consider. And so for that moment, I, I just kind of re wanna reframe
[2:53:23]
this moment again, right? This is, this is something that, that I share with, um,
[2:53:27]
our city council and the mayor and the city a couple of weeks ago at b session.
[2:53:32]
um, and it's not just in response to the policy request, uh, that
[2:53:36]
is before us, but it's in response to a once in a generation moment for
[2:53:40]
public transit in our region. What we have built over the last several years
[2:53:44]
and what we are continuing to build is not an upgrade, it's a transformation.
[2:53:49]
and this board's responsibility is to protect it. And the last year alone,
[2:53:54]
via has delivered more than 31.6 million passenger trips.
[2:53:58]
that's the equivalent of moving the entire population of texas. We
[2:54:03]
launched the largest set, single set of service improvements in agency history on
[2:54:07]
a single day, right? Sandeep, we hired 107 new bus
[2:54:11]
operators, right? Tramell, we achieved the top customer
[2:54:15]
satisfaction rating among us transit agencies via trans grew
[2:54:20]
ridership by 28% via link grew 35% park, and
[2:54:24]
right. Grew more than 50%. The better bus plan, a full network
[2:54:28]
design is running two to three years ahead of schedule. The green line is under construction.
[2:54:32]
and these are not promises. It is proof we are delivering and
[2:54:37]
we are not slowing down. Later on this year, via will launch an integrated
[2:54:41]
app, a single platform for every via service, every route,
[2:54:46]
every trip. Equally, putting together the customer experience
[2:54:50]
as a top priority. That is what a modern competitive
[2:54:54]
transit system looks like. That is what our riders ask for a better customer experience
[2:54:59]
built on a reliable, safe, and effective service. And that is what we are delivering
[2:55:04]
all this progress is possible because we have been disciplined and that discipline
[2:55:09]
is exactly what is now being tested. Every dollar of the voter
[2:55:13]
approved one 8 cent sales taxes committed to the san antonio keep san antonio moving plan.
[2:55:18]
our fair revenue is leveraged against bonds and federal partnerships and
[2:55:22]
make the green and silver lines possible. These are not line items,
[2:55:26]
these are promises to the people of our service area, to san antonio
[2:55:31]
and to bear county. There is no surplus capacity for new unfunded
[2:55:35]
programs without impacting the delivery of services are rider depend on today,
[2:55:40]
the board's duty is to protect the long-term financial health, safety,
[2:55:44]
and performance of this agency. We share the mayor's goal for equity
[2:55:48]
and access. I agree. And we are open to partnership models where the city funds
[2:55:53]
and distributes fair programs for those who meet, uh, who need it the most.
[2:55:58]
it already does this with city employees. That is a path we can walk together
[2:56:02]
without putting the system at risk. We've gone through over the last year
[2:56:07]
a culture change. Thanks in part to all of y'all in this room today. Thanks.
[2:56:11]
in part to our operators, again, it was said earlier today
[2:56:15]
by our etu transit union. This is a one time that
[2:56:20]
they're in agreement with management, right? When was the last time that's actually been
[2:56:24]
brought up? Uh, and so I appreciate that that has taken
[2:56:28]
a long time to, uh, bridge some of the gaps that we had in the past. And
[2:56:32]
I, again, itest this to the leadership, uh, both, uh, the union
[2:56:37]
and of management. So with that being said, um, thank you for
[2:56:41]
your deliberate, um, expertise in bringing this, um,
[2:56:45]
uh, presentation to us today. Thank you for the research and calling us
[2:56:49]
as trustees, asking us questions, um, ensuring that all
[2:56:53]
our questions are, are answered in a timely manner. And thank you for always, uh,
[2:56:58]
considering what our ridership needs, uh, with the eye towards the future.
[2:57:02]
um, so with that being said, I'm gonna call the question,
[2:57:08]
all right. Um, all in favor, please say aye.
[2:57:12]
a aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries.
[2:57:16]
thank you. Amen.
[2:57:23]
all right. We still have, uh, agenda items to that are remaining
[2:57:27]
. Uh, let's go ahead and move back to consent. Agenda item number
[2:57:32]
five, uh, which is an action item. Trustees, are there any questions regarding
[2:57:36]
any of these items? And do we need a presentation for this? No presentation, no
[2:57:40]
move. We have a motion sign unless y'all want second. And we have a second. All in favor, please
[2:57:44]
say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. Consent agenda is
[2:57:49]
approved financial update. I know, uh, jermaine, we, we went through a, a robust
[2:57:53]
presentation there, but, uh, I'm gonna give you the floor again to provide
[2:57:57]
us a little bit more in depth on where we are here to date.
[2:58:04]
even leroy leaves me now. All righty. So
[2:58:09]
yeah, just use the, uh, keyboard. Okay.
[2:58:14]
yeah.
[2:58:19]
wonderful. I'll be presenting the, uh, monthly financial highlights here.
[2:58:24]
excuse me. Moving forward to our, uh, balance sheet here.
[2:58:28]
uh, we ended the, uh, month of january with 1.226
[2:58:33]
and, um, total assets and deferred, um, outflow of resources
[2:58:37]
here. I note here that we do have charts in the back of the, uh, deck
[2:58:41]
here. I won't flip to them this particular time, but I'll give some explanation of the variances
[2:58:45]
here. And so, um, we're down 86.1 million versus
[2:58:49]
a year ago. Current assets, they're actually down by 14.4 million. This
[2:58:53]
is, um, associated with an, actually an increase in cash of
[2:58:57]
14.5 and other receivables of 15.2.
[2:59:01]
but these are offset by, uh, decreases in sales tax receivables of 1.7 million,
[2:59:06]
federal grants receivable of 7.7, restricted cash and debt
[2:59:10]
service of 4.8 and inventory of 1.1. Uh, we have a large,
[2:59:15]
uh, decline in non-current assets at down 77.3 million.
[2:59:19]
and this is associated with a debt that was paid off in august of fiscal year 25,
[2:59:24]
uh, and in, um, january of fiscal year 26 as well. 6.4 million.
[2:59:29]
and then use of text grant funds of 10.4, decrease in,
[2:59:33]
uh, restricted cash for construction of, uh, 63.3 million,
[2:59:38]
and, um, decrease in our bond reserve of 2.9 million. And these were
[2:59:43]
all partially offset by increased, um,
[2:59:47]
um, I'm sorry, interest earned on contributions from bexar county,
[2:59:51]
a td of, uh, 5.7 million. Capital assets are up 9.3,
[2:59:56]
uh, million. This is due to assets, place and service and, um, construction
[3:00:00]
and progress of, um, increase here of 76 million.
[3:00:04]
and these were partially offset by normal depreciation and amortization of 66.7 million.
[3:00:10]
and then our deferred outflows, they're actually down 32.5 million.
[3:00:15]
and this is just normal amortization of, uh, pension and oa. Looking
[3:00:19]
at our total liabilities and deferred inflow of, uh, resources
[3:00:23]
here. We ended the month with, uh, 530 million.
[3:00:27]
these are down 33.3 million. The, uh, decline here
[3:00:31]
is, uh, largely associated with, uh, decline in non-current assets
[3:00:35]
of 77.3 million due to debt paid in august,
[3:00:40]
uh, fiscal year 25. I'm sorry, I'm actually gonna flip here because I
[3:00:44]
think I have an issue with my notes for transparency here.
[3:00:49]
and so this, uh, decline here that we are speaking to here. It's, uh, long-term
[3:00:54]
liabilities are actually down 57.1 million due to decreases
[3:00:58]
in bonds payable and bonds premium 16 million, uh, pension
[3:01:02]
and ope liabilities are down 44.7 million. Lease
[3:01:07]
liabilities in vehicles down 19.6. These are partially offset by
[3:01:11]
the addition of compensated absences, uh, liability,
[3:01:15]
uh, which was, uh, implemented, which was related to the implementation
[3:01:20]
of ga sb 1 0 1, which required us to, um, to
[3:01:24]
actually record the liability associated with absences that we expect
[3:01:28]
our team members to take. And, uh, that resulted in another 22.2 million
[3:01:33]
in liability. And then we have a arbitrage liability of $1 million
[3:01:38]
deferred inflows actually up 15.8 million due to monthly amortization
[3:01:42]
of inflows and pension of, uh, 14.2
[3:01:46]
opep 1.5, and then leases 0.1 million there.
[3:01:51]
so, flipping back here, moving over to our treasury
[3:01:56]
overview here, you can see that we ended the month with 631.2 million
[3:02:00]
in total cash reserves. These were down 13 million month over month.
[3:02:04]
if we look at the actual days, cash on hand, we're still strong. We're down 12 days,
[3:02:08]
but actual days cash on hand, 496 days, well above the
[3:02:13]
120 requirement, uh, that the board requires. We can see
[3:02:17]
here this number looks very strong, but we see what happens once we start spinning down on
[3:02:21]
our capital program. And certainly, uh, that number won't be, um,
[3:02:25]
won't help us in the event that we have, uh, issues with our fair
[3:02:29]
box revenues. We don't have to recap that, but people look at that number
[3:02:34]
today. But that number is gonna be spent down as we spend on our green line civil line,
[3:02:38]
um, capital programs. When you look at the, uh, interest earned in the bottom right
[3:02:42]
corner here, we, um, ended january year to date, we had 8.5 million
[3:02:47]
in interest earned. And so 3.3 million higher than the
[3:02:51]
budget year to date of 5.2 million. We expect to end the year with $23.8 million.
[3:02:57]
and this is, uh, the year to date performance is due to higher cash reserves
[3:03:01]
than we budgeted for. And then higher interest earnings on those reserves as well.
[3:03:06]
looking here at our income statement here, you could see that we ended january
[3:03:11]
with 123.6 million in revenues. Uh, this is
[3:03:15]
fairly aligned with our budget. It's a 1 million variance. I won't, I won't explain that
[3:03:20]
variance since it's aligned with the budget. And also from an expenses perspective,
[3:03:24]
we could see that, uh, we ended the month with 114.6 million.
[3:03:29]
that's, uh, just 0.1 difference from the, uh, budget there. I will mention
[3:03:33]
here, um, madam chair, that you questioned the variance
[3:03:38]
on fairbox revenues last month. I think we had a 0.8 million
[3:03:42]
variance to the budget. You see it's about $1 million now there.
[3:03:46]
and then we noticed that we had an unfavorable sales mix, meaning that we sold more
[3:03:50]
discounted fares than we had intended to, uh, within our budget. And so it
[3:03:54]
resulted in less, uh, fair box revenues.
[3:04:03]
this particular slide looks at our, um, sales tax trend on
[3:04:07]
a rolling 12 month basis. When you look at that trend on a 12 month basis, we're
[3:04:11]
actually up 3.3, I'm sorry, 3.2% year over year.
[3:04:16]
if we look at the state of texas here, uh, just looking at the month of january,
[3:04:21]
uh, state of texas saw a 7.1% increase january 26
[3:04:25]
over 25. Um, all sectors seem to be performing, uh, pretty
[3:04:29]
well there and their reporting as well. And then if we look at the three
[3:04:33]
months ending january, 2026, uh, the state of
[3:04:37]
texas was up 6.1 million compared to the same period for the, um,
[3:04:42]
prior year. And going to the, uh, performance
[3:04:46]
dashboard here, performance for bus here are weekday ridership complaints, mechanical
[3:04:50]
reliability and customer satisfaction. They're all better than target collisions.
[3:04:55]
they're better than target through, uh, january, 2026. We had two non-preventable
[3:05:00]
and two preventable bus collisions reported through january. However,
[3:05:04]
those occurred prior to december because for the last two months there were no collisions.
[3:05:09]
the, um, on time performance and cost effectiveness that within the
[3:05:13]
target range through, uh, january, 2026 for bus.
[3:05:17]
if we move on to, uh, via trends here, our weekday ridership collisions, mechanical
[3:05:21]
reliability, customer satisfaction, and cost effectiveness, there are better than, uh,
[3:05:25]
target. Our on time performance is within the target range. Um,
[3:05:29]
however, we've seen some improvement over the, uh, prior period
[3:05:34]
of, uh, 0.8%. And so, which is a positive, uh, complaints are worse
[3:05:38]
than target, but showing continued improvement with a 12.4%
[3:05:42]
decrease from the prior period. And finally, moving on to, uh,
[3:05:46]
via link here, our average monthly, uh, ridership and on time performance
[3:05:50]
rather than target cost effectiveness is within target range through january.
[3:05:55]
and customer satisfaction rating for ve services through january is 4.84.
[3:06:01]
and so madam chair, I'll turn it back over to you and the board of trustees for any questions
[3:06:05]
or comments. Thank you very much for presentation trustees. Any questions?
[3:06:10]
uh, trustee flotis, uh, any economic headwinds or any issues
[3:06:14]
that you're tracking or concerned about with respect to sales tax or
[3:06:19]
anything else? Yeah, yeah. And so of course, uh, we would say tariffs,
[3:06:23]
right? Of course, when you look at the capital program is major 1.1 billion in
[3:06:27]
spend. And so this is where we would have the largest concern. And so we talked a little bit
[3:06:31]
earlier about the fact that we have this, uh, contingency fund that we set aside
[3:06:35]
of $100 million. We do recognize that that can go away rather quickly,
[3:06:39]
right? And so that's something that we're definitely concerned about. We talk about it all the time,
[3:06:43]
taking a look at our, um, project management practices and our ability
[3:06:48]
to, um, ensure that we have the sufficient level of contingency
[3:06:52]
within our, um, budgets for each and every project. And so that's a major concern
[3:06:56]
for us. I would say right now we see that our fuel costs are, uh, rather high.
[3:07:01]
uh, we, we need to reach back out to cps energy and see why these, um,
[3:07:05]
surtax, I would say that we're being charged. They can't explain it very well to us why it's,
[3:07:09]
why it's, um, been so volatile. And so that's something that we wanna, um,
[3:07:13]
pay attention to in the future as our cng costs, of course, with increasing our operation
[3:07:17]
as well. And so I think there, there are quite a few concerns there. I will reiterate
[3:07:22]
here as it relates to sales taxes, we, we continue to talk about sales
[3:07:26]
taxes every single month because obviously that's a huge revenue source force. And so this
[3:07:30]
year we actually budgeted for a 0% increase if you exclude the a
[3:07:34]
ed two, uh, revenues that began in january. And so to see the
[3:07:38]
positive numbers that we're seeing here now is a really good thing for us. And so it's gonna help us in terms of
[3:07:42]
just the plan for 26. Great.
[3:07:47]
thank you. I I did have a question. Um, 'cause I chuckled when you asked that, 'cause that's similar
[3:07:51]
to where I was gonna go. Just going into the sales tax and looking, um, month over month
[3:07:55]
and the trend that you have there, um, we see a decrease from last month. And
[3:07:59]
I'm just, um, are we tracking, uh, the forecast, uh, ahead
[3:08:03]
of what you just said? Um, based on the economic, uh, impact of
[3:08:07]
tariffs, uh, of fuel increase, um, we're
[3:08:11]
the number one, we're in the top, uh, providers or, uh, customers
[3:08:15]
for cps mm-hmm . Right? And so largest, largest gas user for cps,
[3:08:20]
largest gas user for cps. So just, you know, those considerations also, um,
[3:08:24]
go into, uh, how much it costs to provide the service, right?
[3:08:29]
um, as opposed to how much we receive, um, from a revenue perspective.
[3:08:33]
so that's always gonna be a concern of mine. Um, and so I'm just, you know, curious, uh,
[3:08:37]
your thoughts, I think you already answered trustee flores, but I'm, I'm, uh,
[3:08:41]
I'm, I'm assuming that you're still monitoring that for the next couple of quarters as we close
[3:08:45]
out our fiscal year? Yeah, certainly. Yeah. And like I said, sales tax, every single, we
[3:08:50]
started to show this every single month, right? And so it's something that we want to continue to monitor.
[3:08:54]
but yeah, every single cost element, you talk about the cost of our, uh, fuel, that's a
[3:08:58]
huge cost for us. And then we have those ser uh, surtax that I mentioned of
[3:09:02]
as well that are, um, that are, we're paying. So it's something that we're gonna continue to
[3:09:06]
monitor and look for ways to decrease that cost. We talked about fuel hedging and things
[3:09:10]
like that. And so we need to explore it fully to see if it's a possibility. But we also wanna
[3:09:14]
have some discussion with cps energy to see if there are other ways that we can minimize our costs.
[3:09:19]
great. Thank you. Uh, dra, just for clarity,
[3:09:23]
um, we haven't seen the news one eighth
[3:09:27]
flush through yet on a report, right? Not yet. Yet. So what we saw in january still doesn't include
[3:09:31]
the cash is gonna come in in march. Okay. It'll be march. Okay. Thanks for the clarification.
[3:09:35]
yes. Very good. All right. Thank you for the presentation. Mm-hmm .
[3:09:39]
thank you. All right. We're gonna move on to agenda.
[3:09:44]
uh, item number eight. This is a proposed may, 2026
[3:09:48]
service changes as announced yesterday via, has postponed to vote
[3:09:52]
on proposed may service change improvements. The delay follows
[3:09:56]
customer feedback regarding, um, via reconsideration
[3:10:01]
to plan to retire. Route two, community input is an essential
[3:10:05]
part of our service planning process, and we appreciate the customers who share
[3:10:09]
their concerns earlier and throughout the weekend. Uh, this item is
[3:10:13]
now scheduled to be considered at the march meeting. Um, so now we'll
[3:10:17]
move, uh, into the via recruitment update, which is agenda item
[3:10:21]
number nine,
[3:10:44]
madam chair, members of the board. Satori samita, vice president of human
[3:10:49]
resources. And I'm with angelica martin, director of human resources.
[3:10:53]
and together we'll provide the february update, uh, for our bus operator, our recruitment and
[3:10:57]
strategy. So reliable frequent service attracts riders,
[3:11:02]
it builds trust with community, it positions via to implement service
[3:11:06]
changes, increase frequency, and respond to growth. And none of that
[3:11:10]
is possible without a robust full-time bus operator pool.
[3:11:14]
so with that context, I'll turn it over to angelica, who's gonna give you an update
[3:11:19]
on where we are. Good evening.
[3:11:23]
so as of january 31st, we've reached a total of 953
[3:11:27]
full-time operators, a net increase of 47
[3:11:31]
over the prior month. Um, the last time that via employed 953
[3:11:36]
full-time operators was in june of 2020.
[3:11:41]
in january, 2020,
[3:11:47]
um, in january of 2025, we ended
[3:11:51]
the month with 815 operators. This represents a year
[3:11:55]
over year growth of 138 operators. Operator
[3:12:00]
retention has also increased by 3% over the last year.
[3:12:05]
we have 71 operators remaining to achieve our goal of 1024
[3:12:10]
operators by december of 2026. Overall, we're 93%
[3:12:14]
towards the goal of 1024 operators. At our most recent
[3:12:19]
job fair, 88 out of 178 attendees interviewed
[3:12:23]
for a bus operator position. Of those 88 attendees,
[3:12:28]
43 were extended job offers on site. Fast track fridays
[3:12:32]
have also officially launched and are gaining more traction. Um, in
[3:12:36]
our office. We, we are heavily trafficked every friday.
[3:12:45]
are there any questions? Any questions? Uh,
[3:12:49]
trustee reno, not so much, much a question, but the, there
[3:12:53]
has been an increase in the conversion rate from folks that enter
[3:12:57]
training that then complete training and become full-time
[3:13:01]
operators. 'cause I know there's a difference between folks that come in versus folks that end up behind a wheel.
[3:13:05]
but that number has increased as well, correct? That is, yes. Thank you.
[3:13:10]
and, and retainage of those, once they start is also increasing.
[3:13:14]
so we have, we have a bit of a perfect storm here. Um,
[3:13:19]
jermaine was nice to us 'cause he did not really show that
[3:13:23]
our expenses are a little ahead of where we were expecting them. And it's
[3:13:27]
because of these two ladies here, uh, because they've accelerated
[3:13:31]
the rate of our hiring further beyond than what we were anticipating at
[3:13:36]
this stage in our budget. It's a good problem to have and we like that, but
[3:13:40]
that's also where it's flushing out into our budget as well. So we're gonna come give you all a midyear
[3:13:44]
look at that. Uh, but the great work that we have here,
[3:13:48]
uh, with, uh, with the recruiting, just to connect us
[3:13:52]
one more idea, 'cause it, um, or moment on recruiting.
[3:13:57]
how should we put the message out that the board just took about,
[3:14:01]
uh, free fares in front of those potential,
[3:14:05]
uh, recruitings or recruit tense? So something to talk, something
[3:14:09]
to think about. But let's, that's a really good question. Let's be very intentional about that, since we've already heard
[3:14:13]
messaging, um, from them already that they were worried,
[3:14:18]
um, about this idea. All
[3:14:22]
right. Thank you. All right. Ell, we're good to go right
[3:14:26]
on, on the number. Okay. I, I just keep on looking at him because
[3:14:30]
he was the one that increased and upped the any to one 50. Yes.
[3:14:35]
. Very good. All right. Thank you very much for the briefing. Um,
[3:14:39]
item 10. Did we have a legal briefing? No, ma'am. We do not. All
[3:14:44]
right. You tonight? No legal briefing. Shucks. Right.
[3:14:48]
okay. President's report. No. President's report
[3:14:53]
. But we are trying to figure if, if this
[3:14:57]
is, uh, the longest board meeting, uh, in recent memory.
[3:15:01]
so, chris, welcome. Yes. We didn't have word for sure. That's
[3:15:06]
right. And, and, uh, that's right. Uh, maybe the scoby item was maybe on
[3:15:11]
s that's right. All right. Well,
[3:15:15]
I'm gonna not drag my feet to go to item number 12,
[3:15:20]
which is your favorite. Um, may I have a motion to adjourn please? Motion to
[3:15:24]
adjourn. Motion is heard. Second. Second. Second. All in favor, please say aye. Aye.
[3:15:28]
any opposed? You see a one opposed? Is that what you did, trustee howard? No. Okay.
[3:15:33]
a motion carries. Thank you very much for being here today.
[3:15:37]
a td a td. That's right. We got a-t-d-a-t-d. Yeah.
[3:15:41]
thank you very much. We're gonna have to five minutes, five more minutes. We're moving on to a td, meaning
[3:15:45]
a td. We probably should have done that first. Yeah. Um,
[3:15:50]
not quite yet. It is now 8:17 pm and I'd like
[3:15:54]
to call it, or the february 24th. A td board meeting. Uh, we've already
[3:15:58]
done our momentary of reflection and pledge of allegiance. Uh, any
[3:16:02]
citizens to be heard. No citizens to be heard. No citizens to be heard. Okay.
[3:16:06]
and we do have a consent agenda item that is for action. Uh,
[3:16:11]
trustees. So moves. We have a motion. Second. Second. All in favor, please say aye.
[3:16:15]
aye. Any opposed? Please say nay. Nay. Consent agenda is approved.
[3:16:20]
ms. Elder, any briefing? No, ma'am. All right.
[3:16:24]
no legal briefing. And then our action item. Next one to adjourn. So
[3:16:28]
moved. And motion second. All right. All favor, please say aye.
[3:16:32]
aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. Everyone stayed here.
[3:16:37]
that was, that may be the fastest agency.