[1:13] I'm going to open the public part of the meeting.

[1:24] So I first, I'm first, I'm first, I'm

[1:28] The first item is to review and approve the minutes from non-public and public for July 27th.

[1:37] We have approval as presented for July 27th, 2021-26 for non-public.

[1:43] Second.

[1:44] All in favour?

[1:45] Darken it.

[1:46] Five.

[1:47] Five.

[1:48] Emotion to approve meeting.

[1:51] Let's are presented for public on July 27th, 2006.

[1:56] Second.

[1:56] All in favour?

[1:58] All right.

[2:30] For a new business, a Amidus, a Conservation Trust, they are not here, so we will move

[2:40] them to the bottom of the new business that they show us.

[2:49] Feeding B is reimbursement for federal state forests.

[2:57] So this form is a P.A.A. 16, again, I was going to read from a document, because I'm not completely familiar with this yet, but the state or the hamster,

[3:10] what a federal government, if they own land in a certain municipality, generally the municipality cannot tax that property.

[3:19] So that can create a significant issue for communities, with larger amounts of the land, particularly in northern New Hampshire, such as Goa.

[3:29] So, public ownership removes property tax from the tax base, the municipality loses the potential property tax revenue.

[3:36] The state steps in and through a statute of 227H to reimburse the town, some of that tax money.

[3:45] And that's what this document is that you guys sign is giving the approval for the state to reimburse the town and go around.

[3:52] Do we know with the reimbursement amount of his health?

[3:56] No, not with the amount of his health.

[3:59] The show is not here.

[4:00] I don't think she would know either at this point.

[4:04] Oh, that's right.

[4:05] That has a reason up in all that.

[4:07] But it doesn't have figures.

[4:11] Is this annual?

[4:13] Yes.

[4:15] You know what was last year?

[4:16] The boys and the boys.

[4:18] The boys and the boys.

[4:19] I don't know.

[4:21] I don't know.

[4:22] You can go to the police.

[4:25] Over on the other side.

[4:26] And you're looking for...

[4:28] Conservation.

[4:29] Oh.

[4:30] I think I can have a concentration transfer.

[4:32] Good day.

[4:32] That was me.

[4:33] Yeah.

[4:34] They were told that it was at the valley.

[4:36] I don't know about the cell.

[4:41] I don't know.

[4:42] Yeah.

[4:43] Well, you're going to be up next on the agenda,

[4:46] so don't get too comfortable.

[4:48] Right.

[4:50] You want to see that table?

[4:54] Why does he come?

[4:56] Can we be seated?

[4:59] Yes.

[4:59] No, let's see.

[5:01] Okay.

[5:03] No questions.

[5:05] Nope.

[5:08] You could turn off how much I do.

[5:10] Yeah.

[5:10] That's really.

[5:11] I think it would have had an amount of tonight.

[5:18] We shall, it's understood out.

[5:25] OK, let's go back to the aminith that aminith that aminith

[5:29] say, conservation trust.

[5:33] And who is representing this down in your usual self,

[5:37] and just describe your organization a little bit.

[5:40] I did pass an information on to the board,

[5:42] so they will perhaps have something to do with them.

[5:45] First off, I am, maybe, and I am the boss

[5:48] of the incarceration project that I drew in the aminith

[5:51] and conservation trust.

[5:52] He said that sometimes that's ahead of me, and these are my esteemed colleagues.

[5:58] This is our report. He is our trainer manager, and this is reporting, not with MS.

[6:05] And he is also on our project manager, Sarah, as well.

[6:08] Both of the report marks green, so I think because I just recently graduated from one of the many college,

[6:13] and I'm maybe the team, but I'm extremely happy to be here today to share a few of these before and before,

[6:19] of the property that is owned by the family just in a citizen and each of us.

[6:28] So that's what we're going to share with you guys.

[6:30] I just give you a little bit about us.

[6:33] We are a base over in Cranconia, but we cover Cranconia and also Coloss.

[6:39] We've got over 7,000 acres and served so far.

[6:43] And we just did another, like, 40,000.

[6:45] This last week, so we're very, very excited.

[6:49] Conservation is looking much different ways to be in your conservation

[6:54] movement, which is what we were talking about today, or in the any property

[6:59] that is actually owned by the trust and that could be something we want, or something that's

[7:03] still needed to put it up. So we're going to be talking about eight donated conservation

[7:10] And different types of lands can be served.

[7:14] We can serve working farms, forests, and all sorts of things,

[7:18] as long as it works for prostrations,

[7:20] but we're going to look at it, and it's kind of how they are small.

[7:24] So I hope that you might go ahead and get into everything.

[7:27] Very cute.

[7:29] Yeah.

[7:30] We'll have a copy of him to press a bit around for twenty-six years now.

[7:36] You can say that we have about seven litre, seven thousand acres, either fee-out or under-easement.

[7:43] We're in, I think, thirty towns.

[7:48] And we've got five towns in co-oscanic.

[7:54] So far, we've just moved in, seriously moved into Coloss County two and a half or years ago.

[8:03] So we've had a couple of easements in the county for the lights on time.

[8:08] About seven years ago now, a group of folks from Coloss County asked Act to talk to them about land trusts and stuff.

[8:21] And so over the past several years, we developed more and more

[8:25] or more with folks and some other meetings, built a core

[8:31] constituency up here, and finally, we offered either it

[8:34] up, start a land trust or act, move into the co-host county,

[8:40] and be more active up here.

[8:42] And everyone seems to think it would be the better move

[8:45] that act just expanded.

[8:47] So, we've now got, was it four full town employees and four part-time employees, so we're

[8:56] pretty little small, I don't think, but we're active.

[9:00] So,

[9:02] can you explain what land trust is?

[9:05] Yeah.

[9:06] Yeah.

[9:06] For clarity.

[9:07] Yeah.

[9:08] So, basically, what we do is, it's all voluntary and people will come to us and they want

[9:15] to see their property is usually somebody wants to make sure the property doesn't get developed

[9:22] in the future and be in a farm or working forest or whatnot.

[9:30] And so we'll take a look at the property, see if it has what we found conservation values

[9:36] which Commodore will get into a minute and see what their view, their idea of what the future of the property could be and see if it measures with what it has to be for act.

[9:52] There are certain things we can do, there are certain things we can't do, but then we cut up with a series of what's called reserve rights.

[10:04] And then that's what the landowner can continue to do on the property, which is most of the stuff.

[10:10] And then there are restricted rights.

[10:14] And the major ones there would be no subdivision, no development on the property beyond.

[10:20] Maybe some additional farm structures and that kind of stuff.

[10:24] The property would still be open for farming.

[10:26] I would go for usually open depend on what the landowner wants.

[10:30] Open for forest management.

[10:32] kind of thing. We're into a working landscape as what we support. And every now and

[10:38] somebody will want a piece of property that they don't want to see disturbed. And we've

[10:45] only got a couple of those where it won't be tempered in the future. We got to go in small

[10:50] property. And then part of the bigger property that has just this great, almost overgrowth,

[10:56] road probably hasn't been kind of since the before the depression. So it's just this really special

[11:04] forest in the landowner did not all that but the other half of the property is still in

[11:10] forest management. But it's a kind of thing. Work with the with the landowners and see what is

[11:17] their view of the future of the property and work with them. I'm having a bug again, I was sorry,

[11:24] for the industry as the board.

[11:25] There's a chairman at a deal of like,

[11:27] by his Bob Gregando, and that's the Dr.

[11:29] I'm Richard Bell, just so you can share on names as well.

[11:34] Just a quick question for you.

[11:35] I know you said it for working for us.

[11:37] So part of your consultation with the

[11:39] you have very generous landowners.

[11:43] So you're consulting with a certified forester,

[11:47] like Wagner, for our shemandagement company.

[11:51] So you bring them one board as well.

[11:52] Yeah, we actually have an in-house forest for our key properties, but actually if

[12:00] if somebody hasn't, if we hold an easement and this is something we go over with in the start

[12:04] and they want to do a commercial timber cut, they have to hire a certified forester to come up with a forest management plan

[12:13] and supervise any timber cut.

[12:15] I'll just, as we know, just to maintain healthy and healthy environment and help you far as that, you know, and that's where

[12:22] we're new far as comes in a place. So a farther is consulted. Right.

[12:28] It's in a tree farm now.

[12:30] Perfect.

[12:31] Right.

[12:32] And we don't want to develop.

[12:34] We want to, as I'm touched again, with the exception of possibly some trails for four

[12:40] history, students, or high school students, public education students.

[12:46] I don't know.

[12:47] I don't think so.

[12:48] But that's all.

[12:49] It was last cut at the remember 98.

[12:53] The freeze.

[12:55] Yeah.

[12:55] That's my dad.

[12:58] I owned it then.

[12:59] And he had it select cut by Larry Loser.

[13:03] And it was just very carefully cut then.

[13:07] and it's been in the tree farm system with a 25-year plan not to touch it, and we haven't.

[13:15] And two more years have been added to that.

[13:18] Well, we've been bumping that the conservation trust will,

[13:24] that the Amazon Trust will help us with the conservation of it.

[13:29] And we're so pleased that they look at virtually every property.

[13:33] Nothing is too small for them, which is wonderful.

[13:37] Yeah, from our hand calling acres, just under 50 acres.

[13:42] I dad sold one acre to somebody you know.

[13:50] Yeah.

[13:51] Yeah.

[13:51] You know where this is.

[13:53] It's the, uh, the tree tree.

[13:56] On either side of the mineral spring road, where there are tree farm signs there, is that

[14:01] It's 50 acres.

[14:05] And the first thing I'll do a lot is that they end up adding.

[14:12] Who's going to open this?

[14:15] He was on a share.

[14:17] Yeah, thank you.

[14:19] Thank you.

[14:20] Thank you.

[14:22] Stand by just.

[14:23] Yeah, I guess.

[14:24] So that's why we're conserving it.

[14:27] Our primary goal was education and maybe some cycling

[14:31] if people want to use trails for cycling but all non-motorized rope. I don't know whether we can

[14:39] Well, that's what we did with that.

[14:41] It's been things to be discussed later.

[14:43] But in my case, the land tests were a non-profit.

[14:45] I mean, you can also conserve with federal and the state,

[14:50] but with a non-profit, we're actually

[14:51] local, local, local, and that kind of thing.

[14:54] I know if you people know where it was.

[14:56] It was kind of cool.

[14:57] And because we are from the area.

[15:00] So we're not going anywhere. We still pay also the taxes. We pay it for our use to just sort of where that does still continue.

[15:10] And when we have a copy of it, obviously, we have the only thing to do.

[15:15] And I agree with you. I said that you have about five times in Kalash, that you're currently active in right now.

[15:22] What would you have on the gorum potentially?

[15:25] Like field, line caster.

[15:29] Stratbox, raster.

[15:31] Stratbox, raster.

[15:33] And the m.o. can have a m.o.

[15:36] And, yeah, we can have a m.o.

[15:39] Because we wanted to go with a m.o.

[15:42] But the nitrogen structure is in a way, so we could do that.

[15:47] Because it's a good bar.

[15:49] But we have m.o.

[15:51] And the m.o.

[15:51] That's it.

[15:52] So we get those fields to.

[15:54] I'm sorry, and we're going to get those together.

[15:56] You know, they're all right.

[15:57] I would speak English.

[15:58] Because that is two.

[16:00] Two.

[16:01] Two.

[16:03] Two.

[16:04] Two.

[16:05] So, and then we have three other projects and other towns that are just coming in into the system that have been approved.

[16:17] We have staff who takes a look at the property only comes to us, staff takes a look at it, then we take it to our hands committee, and then go over with them.

[16:28] the project, see if it's something acceptable to the land trust, then they recommend to the

[16:38] border trustees and the border trustees decide if you have to go over the project. Generally,

[16:44] if the staff like every time, if the staff, if we feel strongly enough that it's a good

[16:49] project, and we take it to the land community board, we haven't had a project one yet. But

[16:55] every property owner that comes to us turns out to be a good candidate for confirmation, for whatever reason.

[17:07] There could be the property, it'd just be too hard to fund or maybe the landowner wants to do stuff that just doesn't go with our mission.

[17:19] But what we're just hearing is, that was a big reason my folks in Cola County wanted us to come.

[17:25] The act of up here is the bigger organizations that were only interested in 50s of property.

[17:32] Several hundred acres enough, and nobody, nobody was really interested in the 50 acre of the hundred acre property.

[17:40] Or the properties that weren't working forward, maybe had more farm items.

[17:45] Thank you.

[17:50] Do you want to hear about their project?

[17:53] Sure.

[17:53] Yeah.

[17:54] So we're looking at Rick and Nicky explaining,

[17:57] there's a set list of price area that we look through.

[18:00] I'm going to bedding in projects.

[18:02] The water quality, which includes weapons and screen frontage,

[18:07] recreational opportunities, working forests and working forest soils,

[18:11] working farms, working agricultural soils,

[18:14] and then wildlife habitat as well.

[18:16] So for this property, the working force values are slightly limited by size and orientation

[18:23] with the road cutting through and the need for a buffer around property lines and the road.

[18:28] Horse management is a little bit limited, but it's not impossible.

[18:33] So around 50 acre property, 38 and a half-ish acres of that is underlanded by the most productive suite of forest soils in the state.

[18:43] So growing high quality timber, quickly supporting a wide variety of different tree species.

[18:52] The other, there's 11 and a half acres of the next lowest, our next highest soil quality for growing timber.

[19:01] There is about a two-acre open field, a private long route to where the tree farm signs are.

[19:09] and then there's also about two and a half acres of wetlands on the property surrounding

[19:13] a stream, a buffer on the stream that goes across.

[19:17] There's primary, some will be a trail that runs down the pipeline that cuts through the

[19:21] property as well.

[19:23] So, one more limitation for working for us, but still you could harvest forest products from

[19:28] the property in the future with a through the forest mansion.

[19:31] I'm going to say I got a couple more maps here talking about wildlife.

[19:39] The property has a portion of the property is what's labeled by the anthropician game as supporting

[19:45] landscape for the high quality habitat of moose drug, so that goes past the property and the

[19:54] supporting landscape.

[19:55] So the highest quality wildlife habitat is this pink that kind of buffers the

[20:01] the Moose Brook and then around that is supporting landscape. So we've got the

[20:05] White Mountain National Forest and some of this foreign material here is mapped by

[20:10] the Amtropishian game as habitat that supports that high quality Moose Brook habitat.

[20:17] Could you be able to copy the tree growth plan as well?

[20:20] We do not have the stage in the process.

[20:21] That was in 1999, I believe, the 23-year-old plant, the 25-year-old plant.

[20:27] Yeah, we put that into effect right after the freeze, after we did the kind of muscle like that.

[20:37] And it's not been harvested or cut after that.

[20:41] Yeah, but it would be nice if you could maybe just email that to the time manager too, so we would change to a lot.

[20:47] for our future community to take a look at that just for general knowledge, but the

[20:50] tree growth plan would be good.

[20:52] Yeah.

[20:52] Nice to put that.

[20:53] Nice to put that.

[20:57] Another value we look at is how close is it to other concerned lands, so large blocks of

[21:03] preserved land are obviously better for wildlife movement, cross the landscape.

[21:08] While this isn't continuous with any other concerned lands, it's very close, it's under

[21:12] 2,000 feet from the White Mountain National Forest, the Randolph Town Forest is less than a mile away

[21:19] and that was Brook State Park is also around a mile away from the property.

[21:25] So in the surrounding area there is some residential development but with this poor or a forest

[21:31] cover it does provide some wildlife connectivity between those concerned lands.

[21:40] So just to be fair, the project is already improved, and we're doing what we can, part of what we're here for tonight, is just to make sure you're here, we're doing.

[21:52] See if you guys know anything that's going on in the area, I said Joe, Joe, who's Joe?

[21:59] Thank you.

[22:00] Now, I officially, I sent you the questionnaire, just to say, you know, if you guys knew

[22:06] something great, let us know if you don't, you just like, no, we can have no idea about anything

[22:12] that's going on.

[22:13] And then, too, we'd also like to just, you know, let us support it.

[22:16] So, when we're going after a funding, we can say, hey, that's how it knows.

[22:19] And there's a supportive of us as an act of being in the area concerning the property.

[22:26] I think this would be a very nice thing for our forest, which we're meeting as well as our conservation.

[22:30] Committee to have a chance to review three or four hours.

[22:33] Well, I'm happy to talk to anyone and everybody. So, just let us know. I'll be happy to pick you guys.

[22:40] And we're glad you got an email chain going, so I'm very happy to all of that.

[22:44] Okay. That kind of jobs me do one other thing.

[22:50] Somebody does a conservation easement on their property, and it can't depend on the funding we get.

[22:56] but as a rule, they still hold the property, they can set it.

[23:02] It's just so restrictions, but they can also control access.

[23:10] So say, you put your property under an easement,

[23:14] but you don't want to have it open

[23:15] that every time they can carry the drives by,

[23:18] you can still post it if you wanted to,

[23:21] you can still control access.

[23:23] So, with an easement on it, it's still out by the owner and they can control access,

[23:32] they can control whether there is or isn't hunting is or isn't this that or the other

[23:36] will it be open for kind of use?

[23:39] It is now.

[23:41] And we would maintain that.

[23:44] And actually, I thought that would be healer.

[23:48] I thought it transferred.

[23:49] Yeah, it's a feed.

[23:51] Yeah, I'm sorry, that's kind of the same.

[23:55] We're having in our 80s, and we are in our 80s, and health concerns, it's time for you to take over.

[24:08] That's how we feel.

[24:09] So they will be the priority on the over.

[24:12] And all of our properties are open.

[24:15] Okay, so I have a question if you become the owners and you're non-profit.

[24:20] We still pay taxes.

[24:22] Okay.

[24:22] They all probably taxes just like any other rubber.

[24:26] And if you've paused about whatever they're just making sure you guys did know that.

[24:29] Okay.

[24:31] We put all the rubber in there to qualify in the current use.

[24:35] And it's the right now that you're leaving costs for taxes $25.

[24:42] Because it's in three growth.

[24:43] Yeah.

[24:44] The termings.

[24:45] Is it tree fun?

[24:46] The highest it ever was was 50.

[24:49] And current key for the question.

[24:51] You have a question, sir?

[24:52] Yeah, Bert, you are from Northland Services.

[24:55] Hi.

[24:56] So my little question for the draft is, in this specific instance,

[25:02] there's a shortage of housing in this area, obviously.

[25:05] Do you guys plan on keeping an exclusion area,

[25:07] and maybe do a couple of papers for housing development,

[25:09] and then keep the rest of it in the conservation

[25:12] or is it going to be all completely incarceration?

[25:15] This will be inappropriate.

[25:16] And this seems to be, but that is something we do look at, and property is picked over with a larger property.

[25:23] It's due, whether it's an East one or a feet property, that we talk to the other, you know, do you want to cut out any house locks in the property?

[25:34] If you can settle in an exclusion area around, it doesn't form maybe something like that,

[25:40] but I'm just curious.

[25:42] Not for this property.

[25:45] It's small, just far away.

[25:48] We just did another property that we just closed off in in jam.

[25:52] And it does have a special area for the house and the garage and all sorts of stuff that

[25:58] we have in there a few acres that are at least there.

[26:03] So that is, that is, that it does happen.

[26:06] So we do that somebody recently offered us

[26:09] a piece of property, but we did to put it, you know,

[26:14] to take this fee and we didn't accept it because it's much

[26:19] more a house site than a concerted piece of property.

[26:25] So we do something, I don't know the thought about it in 20 years now, but we do think about it now, because of the housing trouble.

[26:38] Oh, wait a minute.

[26:40] And we, on the property across the street, across root 2, and so that is our family home.

[26:49] We're poor residents, and you know, that's where the big solar thing is and you know where that is in a field of there across from it.

[27:04] So we have that and we don't need more, and my mother would be really, really happy if we can conserve this land which you love very much.

[27:14] It was used to be farmland with solidarity, and my uncle, Bill Nicholson, the two of them were home centers, and they built the house in 1920.

[27:29] And so it goes way back in our family history, and I know the mother, which is...

[27:35] She's already dead, but I think she could be very happy if it could be concerned.

[27:43] They're well-missed to work with us as a real gift to us.

[27:47] We're waiting for them.

[27:51] Yes.

[27:51] And then we had a question.

[27:53] Yes, sir.

[27:54] But in part of our very process, I was talking about the length of many important trustees.

[27:59] It's one of the questions.

[28:00] We have a four-eight question there.

[28:02] Then we go through for every property.

[28:04] And one of the questions is does the talent support the rocket?

[28:07] It is necessary to be financially, you know, this is the kind of project that the towns and favourites.

[28:16] I think it would be appropriate as well to again, just to reiterate, just to represent this, to the far future,

[28:22] to our far future committee and our conservation board. So I'll give them a little more advice.

[28:28] I have no idea if I'm looking at any other voice to our time manager. It can be set up.

[28:36] anyone else have any questions please people please believe

[28:43] in that case thank you

[28:47] guys so much for your time thank you for having me so that would be like

[28:59] Dr. Cardell I believe so would you be willing to write just a letter

[29:07] that we're giving you, did you give them a copy of it?

[29:11] We can send a template, yeah.

[29:13] Yeah, we asked a lot of questions and questions to them.

[29:16] We can send it to the town manager, we know that.

[29:19] We can send it to the town manager, we know that.

[29:20] We can send it to the town manager, we know that.

[29:21] We're not asking for any money, just support the project.

[29:27] And always, it's always good to have the support of the town.

[29:31] I don't think that we can commit to that until after, I mean, with the forest conservation

[29:38] of the meeting.

[29:42] But it sounds like a good project.

[29:47] We're doing music on Labor Day weekend here at the Medallion.

[29:51] That is a little plug.

[29:53] The big and the spot press.

[29:55] I can't get out of the door without telling you.

[29:58] It's also a state of the rest of the meeting.

[30:00] Thank you. Good to see you with the person. Yes, sir. We're commuting.

[30:09] That all we have not stood against.

[30:12] Well, thank you very much.

[30:12] Thank you.

[30:15] Thank you, Mr. President.

[30:18] Okay. Next item on the agenda.

[30:22] The Timber Intent to Cut.

[30:24] Are we going to pass over that, Jim?

[30:26] Pass over that, because we didn't get the documents we needed to finalize that.

[30:30] So next we need hopefully.

[30:35] Next item is finance department update.

[30:39] So yes.

[30:40] So lots of nice kind enough to write a little update.

[30:43] Revenue is our 66.6% collected.

[30:47] This is probably a little bit under-reported,

[30:50] because we have not received the monthly EMS revenue figures yet at this point.

[30:56] Expenses are at 54.9.

[30:58] So 55% spent at this point, both of those are good numbers

[31:02] being that July is roughly 58% of the way

[31:05] through the year.

[31:08] We are on traffic, things go the way they are.

[31:10] You understand our budget by about 3% which lines up historically.

[31:18] 2024 bought it.

[31:20] We have received the draft of that on it, and we're reviewing it.

[31:25] That is in progress.

[31:26] You should be done shortly, and the 2025

[31:28] it has just begun. Budget committee meets, I think, in October is the next meeting and I just

[31:37] want to give everybody a heads up that the Director of Finance Administration that position

[31:41] has been posted. It's out there. We've received a few resumes so far and our hope is to fill

[31:48] that and have some crossover with Bronson for some training and, you know, if we go down a little

[31:55] That's his great reward.

[31:59] Thank you. Okay, next item on the agenda is the proposal for additional parking at Libby Memorial Retreat Recreation Area.

[32:19] You see that letter I drafted for that? Okay.

[32:25] There are any questions on that letter.

[32:46] So basically, you're looking at just an area of view of the Ashrink area, the yellow lines depict.

[32:53] party slots and a bread to fix for a fencing with the people off the fields and beyond

[33:02] not beyond the strength of the wing.

[33:10] And the two options, basically, is if you look at, like on the make itself, option one

[33:16] has a row of six, I think, and then a double row of six, and the second one has a double

[33:23] row of six, and then a double row of six, six, and then a double row of six, six and

[33:26] on the dirt.

[33:28] How are they going to back out the whole option too?

[33:40] So that would be that the issue would be these spots here.

[33:47] They had to kind of drive over here and I think that'd be kind of cluttery.

[33:51] So that's why I'd like option one better.

[33:54] It's a few less spots, but I think it's easier for people to maneuver.

[34:14] So your intention is to remove the ice cream.

[34:18] Yes.

[34:20] Like to move three sides of the board, leave one board, the board is against where the

[34:26] building is, for purposes of people don't drive into the building, number one and number

[34:33] two, just like a barrier, and then like, as you open up to the schools, they could paint mural

[34:38] on there, something like, you know, Gorm Huskies or something artistic on that, on that board,

[34:47] So the other three boards come down and then the public works would fill in the holes in a remove

[34:53] by the post and then taper the land as much as needed to make sure that's the inclined

[35:01] up to the paved area isn't too steep for lower cars or in my dad or doesn't break the

[35:07] pavement off.

[35:09] You know, it's just a bump up, they'll break the pavement off.

[35:11] So, speaking with John and Joey, he met him down the night last week, and they think he, because it naturally does start to be beveled up, so they think it may be a bucket wide, I'm going to go beveled on three sides.

[35:25] So this would be a gravel pad.

[35:28] Yeah, going up to the pavement portion.

[35:30] You're going to try it.

[35:31] Well, hard pumps are going to stay there.

[35:33] Yeah, hard pumps are going to stay there.

[35:34] Yeah, hard pumps are going to stay.

[35:34] And then we'll just be.

[35:36] And then the hard pumps are going to stay there.

[35:36] And then the hard pumps can still be used.

[35:38] plan on putting it past the wall. There's a basketball hoop up there and now so I'm going to move that so the kids can still use it on a sub-operant

[35:44] Like street hockey on there, you could you do all kinds of kids in some of the time for a high program

[35:52] So this

[35:54] This gives additional parking

[35:56] It's correct for sports events. Is there any is there any room?

[36:03] For the busses part there the busses that would be a trick. I don't know if they could make it down that road

[36:09] They might be able to make the trees, well, the trees might be treated, you can trim the trees down, it's just that type corn.

[36:17] There's a type corn, but we could always move those rocks to make the corn a bigger, you know, so it wouldn't be hard.

[36:25] Where does this park now? I know, I don't see them park up on railroad straight in the park.

[36:31] Yeah, in my experience of being a coach for the girls for our city a lot of times

[36:38] they'll drop off the girls who come into that most of them come into the time this way.

[36:42] They'll drop off the boys and then they come back on the music park right here.

[36:46] That's where I think that's most of the time.

[36:49] Yeah, I've seen them park, I've also seen them park on the street as well,

[36:56] and if they can, they

[37:00] I've seen one of two times where they've actually gotten into the parking lot.

[37:04] Yeah, but if we get it down there, that would alleviate a lot of, you know, like that.

[37:10] This area of here, which is along that little group from the B2.

[37:14] I'm going to do a lighting on the right thing like that.

[37:16] No, I mean, it's already lights here on the right.

[37:20] So it would be a little bit of area if it needs to be a ton of timer right now.

[37:25] So we could do that.

[37:26] So how is this?

[37:31] How does this work for real street parking?

[37:35] Yeah, does it make, is 30 slots here? Does it kind of make up for the parking net?

[37:39] You know, you said no parking up?

[37:41] Yeah, I think it was, who would you most, yeah, I think this really helps because, you know,

[37:47] going down the hill, you can't have parking on that hill and then going to Berks and, kind of, like,

[37:53] South, you lost that parking. So this would definitely help.

[37:58] Because it's bad, does it add or just kind of...

[38:01] No, I think it's gonna add quite a bit.

[38:03] Yeah, yeah.

[38:04] Yeah, because...

[38:05] And I think once the board's down and you can, and the gravel's done, we can look at it better and figure it out.

[38:12] But just doing the Google Earth and measuring the measuring tool, Google Earth, this would work.

[38:18] Each spot is 9x10.

[38:22] That's right, which is standard and 25 between like people but it can't be between the so passed

[38:28] you get in and out. So this plenty of room for moving around the cars.

[38:35] So that's the thing.

[38:38] So, Burke?

[38:39] Yes, man.

[38:42] How do you feel about that?

[38:44] Is it going to?

[38:45] Is it going to, is it going to?

[38:46] Yeah, yeah, come up with a stand up.

[38:47] So this is your camera?

[38:48] So this is my first time seeing this.

[38:51] You know what you're just talking about, or you know, I mean it's good.

[38:55] As an abater, then overfly prior.

[38:58] Then you play in this action.

[39:01] So I guess my first question is, you guys are showing your red fence down around here.

[39:07] So does that mean you're taking a gate out?

[39:09] That would be my ultimate plan when move that gate to where that opening is.

[39:14] Okay, so living here,

[39:17] We find that during the week, at least once a week, somebody is in the main parking lot to a cookies.

[39:23] And so if this is unguided and left open, then you're going to have somebody doing whatever in a area that the cops aren't going to see just driving by.

[39:34] So you're going to have people parking in the back, who knows a lot on a constant basis.

[39:39] And so that's my first concern.

[39:41] Again, this is the first time seeing this, so this is kind of like, well, it's obvious if you're moved that gate and then you have whoever in the bad of yarn until all is the night

[39:50] That the police can't see at least now with the gate where it's at as somebody is in the parking a lot after hours

[39:56] The police drive by the you see that so we can easily leave the gate

[40:01] Another one that put another one there something temper or the saw horse or something just to keep people when there's a event from the only further

[40:08] So during soccer games, typically you'll have some of the handicapped people, people like that will kind of park in this area next to the guy's right.

[40:21] So my second thought is, is that we've gone through this and for you guys that are new in the board.

[40:28] The baseball field for years had a gentleman that had a broken windshield or a broken window because baseball also fly off.

[40:36] So, this parking area right here is not usable during soccer games, because you're going to have invariably

[40:41] soccer balls wailing on cars, nothing right.

[40:44] So, how does that affect the tonic momentum insurance when somebody's going to tend to go over

[40:48] or bust a mirror or bust a window?

[40:52] So, having parking behind the soccer net is an ideal.

[40:57] Lastly, I guess just looking at this again, this is just the first time I see this.

[41:03] A lot of work went into that ice rake, a lot of volunteer hours went into that ice rake, tearing down walls of the ice rake doesn't make any sense to me, it's an ice rake, it's not a parking area.

[41:15] There's kids in there, constantly playing streetball, ice, you know, street hockey.

[41:23] I mean, you guys don't live down there, so you don't see it, but on the weekends there and sometimes this kids in there all have time playing hockey.

[41:29] So to remove the walls of the ice, I don't know, it's a flop in the face to me, it's a flop in the face of volunteers.

[41:39] And the people of all of here to gate money, there's a ton of money involved in this ice ring that people gave to the student that built this as a scene to project.

[41:49] So just on its face, that's what I see.

[41:54] Again, are you playing on the gravel in this? Are these parking areas?

[41:56] No.

[41:57] Well, just around right up the once because what I that red line now again, so now you're talking drainage

[42:04] Right now that's all it rats in, so who's in charge of from here in the drainage plan?

[42:10] Yeah, I think I'm curious but you're describing the impervious radiation plan

[42:14] You know, so again, who's in charge of that we already see the issues with the parking lot

[42:19] But the water comes down off the parking lot drains down through it comes out on the grocery

[42:23] That's a gravel surface. So if this is gravel over

[42:27] It should be an engineering plan of where the water's going to go and how fast it's going to go.

[42:31] They're also on a shore land right here, which is never, you know, consult with what they booked the right the first time.

[42:37] Anyway.

[42:40] So, is it your feeling that science would work better?

[42:47] No.

[42:48] Science is doing it.

[42:48] Are they?

[42:49] They're science.

[42:50] No, I'm talking about no parking this side of the street science.

[42:54] Oh, yeah, no.

[42:56] Because the only way we could enforce anything is if the signs were there.

[43:03] No, I've mentioned that before.

[43:07] No.

[43:07] So, I mean, Greece has a board in Jeff and, you know, we, on most courts, on pro people being here.

[43:16] I mean, I would give it to the, the, the, the, the record department.

[43:20] We used to give all the time.

[43:22] My kids are gone through here, my son played soccer on his field, my daughter played softball

[43:27] on his softball field, I got two-year-old granddaughter, I'm pro-sports on pro-people using

[43:32] the park, but I'm also pro doing it wisely and I think everybody.

[43:37] And so, you know, get it parking.

[43:40] The only place that really has to have no parking signs is probably in front of my spot.

[43:45] Now, will that alleviate the parking situation probably not just w based attention to sides?

[43:52] Well, we can enforce it there.

[43:54] You can enforce it.

[43:55] You can enforce it.

[43:55] Right.

[43:56] Without signs, we can enforce it.

[44:00] And my issue is that even with parking down here, people are still going to park on your lawn.

[44:09] If there's no signs.

[44:11] Well, with the plan, it's the put signs up there, as well as on the hill going up to Route

[44:16] 6-N because it's dangerous for Americans to vehicles, traffic, down there, and we can't

[44:20] pull apart from both sides.

[44:22] Oh, they got prior.

[44:23] We determined that at the left meeting point.

[44:25] Correct.

[44:26] I mean, one of the questions I was going to ask before you get up for it was, again, like the

[44:30] gravel base that we're going to put around this would have to be pretty heavy duty to make

[44:36] sure cars aren't sinking in and draining, definitely would have to be taken into it.

[44:39] the ground is pretty solid. Yeah, it's very solid. It's very solid back. Yeah.

[44:46] Yeah. So that's one of

[44:47] the best languages about science again. You know, a very soft ball turning a couple of weeks back.

[44:53] There's a big sign at the end of that road that goes into Lidies that says, the way TV is authorized

[44:57] person only and

[45:00] You know, a horrible side by side came down, and a dirt by came down, to go in to try and get it in the back of the pool.

[45:07] That happens every year. I live on the rail rail, and ATVs is still on the trailway, they're not supposed to be.

[45:14] So sign is just enough. There's a sign on the walls right here. This is in the local beverages.

[45:21] Softball tournaments every weekend. If I go tonight right now, they're in a softball game.

[45:25] There's guys drinking, you know, it's a residential neighborhood.

[45:28] Why is there a sign that says no alcoholic beverages, but yet they, you know, we can do that.

[45:33] You know, cops start a blind eye and then everybody will even get at night.

[45:38] So, anyway, that's my thoughts on the signage.

[45:41] You can put all the signs along, I don't think anybody really pays attention.

[45:45] So, yeah, I guess on my initial review, that's my thing.

[45:51] You know, you would have to test this whole thing and then still keep the gate.

[45:54] to keep people off the soccer field, and without a fence completely keeping some of the

[46:00] office soccer field, they're going to be on the soccer field. Go to any town in America,

[46:05] and you can't access the soccer field unless you have a key to a game to get through, want to

[46:10] into that field for me. So, it's a big concern. I mean, Berlin's fields, they're all locked up,

[46:16] you can't get off the Berlin's field, but you're just going to have, you know, a key to the

[46:20] And so, the cost of repairing the field with somebody getting access to the vehicle is actually not.

[46:27] I mean, somebody goes in there and starts working around in there.

[46:30] $50,000 worth of damage is pretty quick.

[46:33] All the taxpayers don't.

[46:36] So anyway, that's my thoughts on this initial review of this.

[46:41] Okay, thank you.

[46:43] You know, the town probably loses by marketing my, in front of my house, four slots.

[46:49] So, it's obviously, you know, part of the most substantial enough.

[46:55] And I'd like to be left another, you know, kind of a little bit, there's a bother.

[46:59] I didn't, you know, everybody later, which, you know, it won't be less a bother.

[47:07] Thank you, Bert.

[47:08] Yep, come in here.

[47:10] Yeah.

[47:11] Yeah.

[47:11] To address some of the things, Bert said, we could definitely leave the gate where it is.

[47:15] That's not an issue, and to keep people in this opening up during events.

[47:19] And just in the fencing I was going to put up was like the whole brand fencing you see here which is going to be put up and taken down as needed and it's not that expensive.

[47:34] So we could you know put a saw horse or something there in that road with a red line is to keep people on events and going further.

[47:44] would we make that permanent fencing eventually?

[47:47] You could.

[47:48] Yeah, I got pricing on permanent vinyl type fencing

[47:53] or to do it quick and easy.

[47:56] And we could always use that whole run fencing.

[47:59] That will always use it everywhere, so.

[48:03] That's what the soccer balls hit in the cars.

[48:07] Yeah, that definitely is going to happen.

[48:09] No, far as that.

[48:11] I don't know.

[48:12] I would say that's probably 50 feet.

[48:15] Yeah, I was just parking a lot of 20 feet deep, right?

[48:18] Yeah, I'm the four six.

[48:20] 60 feet. Yeah, I think.

[48:22] And, you know, I played on that soccer field, my kids played on soccer field.

[48:26] And there's always cars on Main Street.

[48:29] And they do get hit, you know?

[48:31] Well, yeah, I played all fields here.

[48:35] You know, it's always some car that was getting on.

[48:38] Yeah, the soccer ball.

[48:39] It's not the whole could dent the side of a car like he said, absolutely, but I'm thinking it's not going to be that big of an issue, but

[48:49] We could technically put a higher net up if we made it to it.

[48:52] I just want people to know, too, this the word proposals in front of this because that's what this is.

[48:57] We're both able to discuss it and figure out if there is a solution to alleviate the parking issue that's down there.

[49:05] Could you put up a sign in the parking lot, park it your own risk?

[49:13] I think it's a little bit about the rank and how it doesn't get missed all that much and that with one fifty-degree day there's footprints in

[49:24] Yeah, I mean, when this first was built back in 2012, the winners were much different than they had now as everybody's well aware

[49:33] We get four weeks maybe six in a winter like this past winter was an usual winter. It was super cold

[49:41] But we don't get those winter anymore. We don't flood until changing very now. This doesn't get cold of January

[49:50] So if you and then mid-February the sun's just high enough and it's just that's nothing like crazy

[49:57] So you get that like

[50:03] say offering people go on the ring, they'll walk on it, skate on it and ruin it, and that takes forever to fix, and by cleaning it, you can see the skate marks,

[50:14] how much is being used, and it's been less than less than less each year, you know, used-wise.

[50:21] So, and it's the amount of effort and work, it takes to do it versus the pay-office, to me, it's gone away.

[50:33] What's the condition of the, I mean, the boards and the boards are getting

[50:37] rotted on the bottom and the top boards are all rotted and probably some of the

[50:42] posts are rotted at the base because I know my house, I pulled some fence posts out

[50:47] and they were rotted and that's been there a lot less than that one asked.

[50:51] So,

[50:54] and then that was a kid that we had here every single night, that I mean, I'm Pearl

[50:59] Oki, Louis, first of all, and if you go by, people will take the time to shove a lot of

[51:05] libbies and skate on libbies, but they won't shove a lot of the right.

[51:09] And you notice that, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[51:10] And I'm assuming it has the boards, where you get to pick the stuff off the boards and it's

[51:14] just too much work.

[51:15] And if you will just do lazy, or they'll just push the snow off to the edges and the net

[51:20] than you got these big bumps in it.

[51:26] So it does come down to maybe more patrols there in game nights and things like that before

[51:31] going to have parking down there.

[51:34] I think it's going to be more of the major events, you know, the fish and berries, the homecoming,

[51:43] those kind of things, you know, softball games, not so much.

[51:48] I mean, the tournament's yet, he's going to have an issue there, but you know, that's, you

[51:54] know, talking with Berk over the years and stuff, it's just, it's become more of a hassle

[51:59] to have them there.

[52:01] I'm not, not saying about you, Berk, just saying it's, he's not right, he's not wrong, in the

[52:06] policy, there's no going here, there's no driving here, there's no alcohol, and they do

[52:11] it all the time, you know, so it's easy for me to just go, no, you're not going to use it anymore,

[52:16] You know, but I'm okay doing that, but then I look at the bad guy, you know,

[52:23] well, I mean, I I just soon they not be there because they don't really destroy you

[52:30] Anything? They have me damn it here in the air that happens. They drive on the field. But it's just having, like he said, the alcohol, we're smoking down there. They do it. And none of that's supposed to happen. You know, I do it on there. And I've told, I've gone down there and told him, hey, you can't do that. And they just look at me and they go, okay. And you know, I don't have any authority to do anything. So I don't care where you put something in the alcohol, no, this, that people are going to do it. Yeah.

[53:00] It's happened, it's happened right up here.

[53:03] I remember a bum's jungle, and that was the happen in place.

[53:10] And then with the real trail, they're breaking rules

[53:14] on the real trail all the time.

[53:17] So the signs aren't going to do it.

[53:19] Enforcement is going to do it.

[53:20] But we don't have the manpower to enforce every single place,

[53:26] you know,

[53:30] when it's done.

[53:30] So, you can just cast it off, though, as I excuse to say,

[53:35] no, it's not happening.

[53:36] It's working on just a lot of the happens.

[53:38] That was the eighth of the sentence.

[53:39] Oh, I agree.

[53:40] And then I'd like to read it as the I-Strike again.

[53:42] I mean, you know, the amount of money that was invested in this ring,

[53:49] and the amount of money that wasn't donated.

[53:52] And Karen, the building center donated to the show again.

[53:55] Mark will clear the amount of work that he did over there.

[53:59] It's actually known, and again, it's just a slot in the face of these people that have done this.

[54:03] As far as the ice rank, there's been years during Christmas vacation that was well-cold enough.

[54:09] It was just a lack of effort on the town, it's hard to get the thing flooded.

[54:12] The old town manager, you know, she would tell me all the time.

[54:17] I'd like to get my grandkids down there, but there's no lights. There's no, no, he's flooded again.

[54:21] And it would be plenty of cool enough.

[54:23] There's volunteer, there's just throwing your hands up because they're sick of all that here,

[54:26] because it doesn't get flooded.

[54:28] So I think the ice range is still viable.

[54:31] I think a lot of people do use it.

[54:34] It's just that people will go over the limits

[54:36] because it doesn't get flooded over here.

[54:39] So that's my opinion on the ice range.

[54:43] I think I did losing ice range.

[54:44] What was it?

[54:46] Again, you know, parents are amongst this.

[54:48] You know, they're quite hot here a little time.

[54:50] Okay, I'm going to move forward to fried corn again and myself.

[54:58] Those two people who maintain it and when fried has the plow, he can't do it.

[55:08] Okay, I'm going to move public comment up to this particular item since we have some interest in the Donning Project.

[55:14] And I think the past event consider doing a show that people can part on real

[55:24] Street.

[55:25] I don't know, like the graphic department has a plan or something that can help

[55:29] show people down.

[55:32] People can part on real world.

[55:34] And they just have like a show circus.

[55:37] That in the town and schools are aware of it.

[55:41] I think there's plenty of thoughts on mail notes to you.

[55:46] So that would be like, well, a lot of people are doing congestion down.

[55:51] But a lot of people do part-time mail notes, creating warmth down.

[55:55] It's not that hard.

[55:56] No, it's not that hard.

[55:58] But if there was a shadow available,

[56:00] I don't know if that help.

[56:01] I really need some thoughts on people.

[56:04] Party out of the field.

[56:06] Just a thought.

[56:08] Thank you.

[56:09] What do you say?

[56:11] I have a question.

[56:12] Who?

[56:13] They approved this young man during this, and a lot of young energy was donated

[56:18] into doing it.

[56:20] Who is supposed to be teenagers?

[56:22] Because there's no reason they should be riding and not used.

[56:27] And then you'll know a lot of parents who have a huge problem with it.

[56:31] But you're right.

[56:32] There was no way.

[56:33] You know, it was cold.

[56:35] And they blame the blame because they didn't get on it.

[56:38] I can use all of your around, but it doesn't have to be just in the ice time.

[56:43] I don't understand why they improved it.

[56:46] Energy, money is put into it.

[56:48] And now it's not going to be making it.

[56:50] It doesn't.

[56:51] It is being maintained.

[56:53] The skit to the point where it needs major maintenance to it.

[57:02] Was there a plan in place when you did it for maintenance?

[57:05] Or just turned over to the town?

[57:07] It turned it down like most senior projects are.

[57:10] You know, most of the maintenance is, you know, paint the most part and then replace the

[57:16] floor here and there as you go along.

[57:23] It's okay.

[57:24] And to go back to the skating at the Christmas vacation time, there's not many years

[57:32] in the last 10 years.

[57:33] It's been weather wise, you can flood and have a good day during Christmas time.

[57:40] So Jeff is a couple more people that can maybe be appointed or trained.

[57:46] What do you offer something to flood there, other than you and Fred?

[57:50] Yeah, we've had some people in the past do it.

[57:52] Or how about doing it?

[57:54] I mean, does.

[57:56] They basically have done, you know, some time in the middle of the world,

[57:59] that's too much work.

[58:00] I don't want to do that again.

[58:02] When we had the fire department just a while ago,

[58:05] they came get the...

[58:06] I don't think they can do that.

[58:06] They did that a year, but we got the issues done with these, and they simply felt something

[58:12] he's not doing that again.

[58:13] And I think it was hard to get down there, too.

[58:15] To do this correctly, we need a liner for starters, we do need some special equipment to do

[58:22] the edges and make sure it's clear, we need a snowball where you can't show all that snowing.

[58:26] We do have a sample.

[58:34] Man.

[58:35] Just a couple of questions.

[58:38] Just in general, partying down there.

[58:41] There's no any kind of accessible substance.

[58:44] We may have somebody that mentioned this, any kind of host.

[58:47] We might have a watch there, great picture of it.

[58:49] So whatever.

[58:50] But there's no designated spots down there.

[58:53] This includes designated spots.

[58:55] We'll do everything.

[58:56] It does.

[58:57] Yeah.

[58:58] Yeah, we could easily do that, yeah.

[59:01] Um, and would there be surveillance cameras that this is talking about, people don't

[59:06] go nuts and all kinds of wonderful things or damaging fields.

[59:10] I think this currently.

[59:12] There is no cameras down there.

[59:13] I mean, for cameras you would need Wi-Fi.

[59:16] And let's say there's some camera.

[59:17] I don't know of it.

[59:19] It doesn't need Wi-Fi.

[59:20] So that would be an additional cost.

[59:22] That Wi-Fi down there.

[59:23] Just for cameras.

[59:26] And I agree with everyone who's talking about just eliminating that popular playgrounds and the students that I don't know their business.

[59:36] But the reason is there a way that it would be relocated to another place that would still be accessible to fill it that will allow the party to happen.

[59:50] If we were going to move it, I wouldn't be bothered.

[59:53] It's too much work to move it.

[1:00:05] Does the planning board need to be involved in any way? Because it sounds like there's some major issues in terms of drainage and other types of stuff. Should they be involved and get some input from them in terms of what their experience can be applied to that group?

[1:00:26] And the good.

[1:00:29] Yes.

[1:00:30] And you have got an insult that is on your word.

[1:00:36] And then the only other comment is what we're saying for us, and we're asking for our

[1:00:41] King of Shes.

[1:00:43] And the no drinking and whatever,

[1:00:48] you know, somebody's drinking and then take it off, I don't

[1:00:51] know that's different, but so we need to be aware of that.

[1:00:54] And I'm sorry, we have 7.5 police officers.

[1:01:00] I don't think it's a stretch.

[1:01:02] One of their games, or whatever,

[1:01:05] to have someone checking on a regular basis and going on them.

[1:01:12] And I believe the townpiece parking violation room,

[1:01:17] versus you know, seeing someone.

[1:01:19] We don't get to be found when we go.

[1:01:20] I think it's a local ordinance for parking.

[1:01:23] we actually get to keep that money.

[1:01:25] So if it's a no parking zone and they're parked there,

[1:01:29] I think we get to keep the money as well as a new,

[1:01:32] if somebody's, you know,

[1:01:35] parked incorrectly in his new sections and then.

[1:01:39] So there's some of these parked in the handicapped spot

[1:01:42] because it doesn't need an handicapped spot.

[1:01:44] I think we get to keep the money.

[1:01:46] They didn't have to double check, but it's just that,

[1:01:50] you know, it's like what the MTV's,

[1:01:52] So police departments says we have zero tolerance in terms of policy for 80 weeks, but when

[1:02:00] to hear all of these violations that we have for hundreds of hours, being where they're

[1:02:06] not supposed to be, and it just keeps happening, and they seem right on the website, we have

[1:02:11] a zero tolerance policy for each of these violations.

[1:02:15] All right, we'll take all of the information and to advise them and all

[1:02:24] that, mate, let's

[1:02:28] see them on.

[1:02:30] All business updates?

[1:02:37] Thanks, Jack.

[1:02:38] Thank you.

[1:02:45] Yes, so update, I think the last meeting was that we discussed the disclosure of a document

[1:02:56] for getting to an abatement and I was tasked with investigating that, so I do not know

[1:03:03] all here written by myself, within what from the town council, Chris Polt, and I'm sorry

[1:03:13] to be dead.

[1:03:14] The question presented is whether the dissemination to the planning board, and to the public

[1:03:19] of correspondence received by the town, from a private attorney and connection with

[1:03:25] to activate and matter involving a select and is prohibited under New Hampshire right to

[1:03:31] know law. The short answer is no. RSA-91A provides limited exemption from disclosure for

[1:03:39] government, governmental records, where the legitimate privacy interest exists. However,

[1:03:44] the hamster courts have consistently held that application of this exemption requires

[1:03:49] a balancing test. Specifically, the analysis first considers whether the individual or entity

[1:03:56] has a cognizable privacy interest in the information that issue. If such an interest

[1:04:06] if such an interest exists, that privacy interest must then be weighed against the public interest,

[1:04:14] the public's interest and disclosure of governmental transparency.

[1:04:19] In the present matter, the correspondence consists of communication from a private attorney

[1:04:24] to the town regarding the tax abatement preceding initiated by a member of the Board of

[1:04:31] the Selecting. Given the nature of the communication and its connection to the conduct of

[1:04:36] municipal business, it is unlikely that a court would find a protected privacy interest

[1:04:42] sufficient to warrant non-disclosure, moreover, even if some privacy interests were determined

[1:04:49] to exist, any such privacy interests would likely be outweighed by the public's strong

[1:04:56] interest in public affairs, especially when an elected official wasn't bought.

[1:05:04] Accordingly, it is my opinion that the dissemination of the correspondence was not

[1:05:09] RSA-91A or any other applicable confidentiality requirement.

[1:05:14] Based on the typical legal standard and the circumstances presented,

[1:05:19] disclosure of the email is consistent with the principles of transparency

[1:05:23] and body given the answer right in no law.

[1:05:29] And that, again, that was from several back-and-forths with the attorney

[1:05:34] before the time.

[1:05:40] and certainly make copies of this and distribute it to the world, you know, yourselves.

[1:05:49] Please tell me one of how do you refer your question by email to Joe.

[1:05:56] Well, he just says something about public service and the safety of public.

[1:06:00] It is against a policy in the California for members of the staff employees to do what was done.

[1:06:11] The DMM that was Mars confidential was discussed in public session by somebody who named that person.

[1:06:23] That person is an employee.

[1:06:26] The board member is no longer here.

[1:06:28] But that person is an employee.

[1:06:31] That's constant.

[1:06:32] That's rumor.

[1:06:33] And that's against your policy.

[1:06:35] That's all I'm gonna say.

[1:06:37] And say it.

[1:06:39] Thank you.

[1:06:42] All right, let's move on. We have other business.

[1:06:49] Yeah, one more of the ATB Parking Off Band Work Street.

[1:06:55] Probably a non-starter because of the land and the deed of that land,

[1:06:59] which explicitly says,

[1:07:02] transitory passive recreational purposes only,

[1:07:05] and that's from the Community Heritage Investment program,

[1:07:09] as well as it's in the deed.

[1:07:11] And that does mean low impact, non-motorized recreational activities, such as walking hiking,

[1:07:19] social and fishing, hunting, non-organized transitore activities.

[1:07:24] And as I said before last week, there should be several hunting permits for out there as well.

[1:07:30] Which has happened for years on that land. And I believe this town's stewardship plan aligns with the deed as well. So I think we can keep doing it into it, but it doesn't sound.

[1:07:45] So Bangor straight is out.

[1:07:47] Our English use.

[1:07:48] Thank you.

[1:07:54] So for now, they're going to have the park and pay.

[1:08:00] Here we go.

[1:08:03] What about they talked about the land that was Moose Man?

[1:08:10] Moose Man?

[1:08:11] Moose Man?

[1:08:12] Yeah.

[1:08:12] They talked about positive and that.

[1:08:15] I think that the Roger, the President of the Club, I don't know if he's notified or talked

[1:08:23] to Dave, who went with the owner.

[1:08:25] I do know that they did talk to Bert Drillan and he opened up some product

[1:08:32] property on Lancaster Road from Green Parking.

[1:08:35] Of the where the rebel.

[1:08:38] The neighbor of Storages.

[1:08:41] Which is just off the Sandhat.

[1:08:46] And I was up and down that road,

[1:08:48] Alderman.

[1:08:53] On Saturday.

[1:08:55] When I went by in the morning,

[1:08:57] there were two vehicles there.

[1:08:58] There was never more than a half dozen.

[1:09:01] So I went by Saturday and I came to a Friday night around 8.30 there was 2 vehicles and I went with the trail along with that.

[1:09:09] You know, I mean it's just one weekend in the year where it was a busy weekend.

[1:09:13] And then Saturday, P.D. went by a year and I think they said they saw maybe 7 vehicles at 1.5 and that was it.

[1:09:21] I don't think we're looking for a huge stage, I really don't know.

[1:09:27] Well, so you're ready to create a space for half a dozen vehicles.

[1:09:34] I just can't see it.

[1:09:36] They can afford to buy these motorized vehicles at 2,500, 1,500 truck and try and buy a trailer.

[1:09:47] And all of that stuff.

[1:09:48] They can afford a few bucks in the

[1:09:52] park.

[1:09:52] And if they don't want to come because of the parking and...

[1:09:55] Oh, I'm sorry.

[1:09:56] As the time of the sets, the railroad street parking lot,

[1:10:00] the one of the railroad church, which is all a few simple time left.

[1:10:04] Yes. That's a non-side.

[1:10:06] Okay.

[1:10:08] Yeah. It's an, it's an, it's an, it's an evening.

[1:10:09] The way that you all practice.

[1:10:10] There are mixed, blessed.

[1:10:11] We've already been through one month. We don't want to go.

[1:10:14] No, I don't. No, I'm just, I'm just asking you that event.

[1:10:17] Oh yeah.

[1:10:19] Now, we've put parking spaces right down the main street here.

[1:10:23] why it came in with just a lot of trail parking,

[1:10:26] a lot of old and old trail.

[1:10:28] Again, you're not talking about,

[1:10:30] you know, you're talking about the dust and the space and the most.

[1:10:34] And so why include it?

[1:10:37] I don't want after Mr. Pizza,

[1:10:39] where the guardrail is on, where you get the Dunkin Donas.

[1:10:42] That plot is straight right there,

[1:10:44] and you can easily pull a truck in the trail or off to the side.

[1:10:47] Just mark those, put a sign up,

[1:10:49] eat, eat, truck in trail and parking.

[1:10:51] And then you can easily identify

[1:10:55] I think the loading and unloading might be an issue that I'm just thinking about a lot of

[1:11:03] we're just talking real time here but yeah.

[1:11:07] Because that was one of the issues up on route 2 was loading and unloading, which created a lot of congestion.

[1:11:16] I mean, you know, we have looked at so many options to try and accommodate them in.

[1:11:24] Well, the other option is Burrell.

[1:11:26] Oh, yeah.

[1:11:27] People are here because of the hotels and the restaurants.

[1:11:31] It's plenty of parking, they're still going to travel back and forth, so it's not that

[1:11:34] they're going to deal with.

[1:11:35] There's, you know, Terry's a lot.

[1:11:37] I mean, it's the law, but it's not that much money.

[1:11:41] So I don't know when he's paying taxes on it, he's just parking law that he gets to recoup

[1:11:45] about any of the bathrooms there, so I think $20 to the day or whatever it is.

[1:11:49] It's cheap. It's probably pretty fair. Yeah. We're considering that you pay $60 for all day

[1:11:55] parking at the beach. Yeah, no, I just. We've been working with Rodgers as well. I'll try to find another

[1:12:01] spot with me. I mean, that's why you said. Thank you. I think Rodgers can find was right. Was the

[1:12:10] people in Jim town road and they have to travel around. That was his main. And that is a state

[1:12:16] issue. That's not a town issue. No, no. But that was his main thing is that their town residents

[1:12:22] and they have to pay because they, I say, but so what? So they're a residents. Yeah, they can park

[1:12:28] up into Big Apple and Berlin. There's a huge parking lot there and hop right on the trail and come

[1:12:33] Yeah,

[1:12:37] they don't necessarily have to park in Gourmet.

[1:12:42] I agree, because if not all Gourmet residents have access to ADV, like I said, anybody

[1:12:47] down 16, we've got a trailer.

[1:12:50] So it's not just Jim's time room.

[1:12:52] Yep.

[1:12:54] All right.

[1:12:55] I mean, he's ready to move.

[1:12:56] Yeah.

[1:12:56] Next time, his report, National Night Out was great last week on the comment.

[1:13:03] And for those who went, great.

[1:13:04] if you didn't, you missed something.

[1:13:07] Again, that's sort of a community building campaign,

[1:13:10] focused on residents, slash law enforcement,

[1:13:13] relationships.

[1:13:14] And we had, you know, Gorm PD, Gorm Fire and EMS,

[1:13:18] Clause County Sheriff's Department of Berlin,

[1:13:20] PD, U.S. Army, Berlin, Gorm, emergency response,

[1:13:27] Randolph Shelburn, trauma services,

[1:13:29] family resource center, federal bureau prisons,

[1:13:31] Go away prevention, go on community learning center,

[1:13:35] U.S. Forest Service, New Hampshire,

[1:13:37] fire marshes, lots of New Hampshire state police,

[1:13:40] and try county transit, as well as some food vendors here

[1:13:45] that we're here doing.

[1:13:46] So, great, we've already had a few people reserve for next year.

[1:13:49] So, Kudos to the fire department,

[1:13:52] Chris Lachanson, I know a scarehead of this whole thing,

[1:13:55] and got things going.

[1:13:56] So, again, a great thing for the time of war.

[1:14:00] From this assessing department, I just wanted to let people know that the assessing office,

[1:14:06] Northland property valuations has completed their review of all open building permits,

[1:14:11] abatements, and the cyclical pickups from their agencies.

[1:14:15] So Megan and Megan Michelle, did a lot of data entry on that, and most of that is complete.

[1:14:23] So just a quick update there.

[1:14:25] There's the solar exemptions on that because that's just also outstanding.

[1:14:30] I don't have that information to me, but I realized from last meeting there is still outstanding.

[1:14:40] I attended the Shelvern Select Board meeting last week.

[1:14:44] That was an introduction for Bob, and I appreciated that,

[1:14:47] and it was great for me to get to meet the Select Boarding Shelvern and pop it in for a bit.

[1:14:53] fire department update, new fuel tanks, new oil tanks to be installed at the Gorm station as well.

[1:15:01] There was only one there, they were leaking, they needed to keep up with the heat that they need, and that's what I was completed.

[1:15:12] Let's see. They also had hoses that were 40-plus years old, and they were able to replace those. They had a yearly hose and ladder testing done, which allowed them to replace and put into service.

[1:15:29] some of the new hosts that they received from a regional assistance firefighter grant that they received.

[1:15:35] That is done.

[1:15:37] We're also looking into a small amount of gaming and the fire department parking lot, which is causing some damage to the ambulance when they're backing in and things like that.

[1:15:46] So, to be continued on that.

[1:15:50] Meeting with DDS, I believe tomorrow, myself and Phil, from the fire department, we're going to meet with DDS to go over some of these FEMA projects.

[1:16:01] projects and see if we can get those moving forward.

[1:16:06] Update from the police department, Dave Johnson, our newest officer, just past his initial

[1:16:10] testing to go to the police academy, so he'll be at the police academy from August 24th to roughly

[1:16:16] December 15th.

[1:16:19] Once he's finished with that, that'll take a little bit of a burn off the scheduling, because

[1:16:23] he has to ride with another officer until he is completely trained,

[1:16:29] so that is different

[1:16:30] I

[1:16:35] think that public comment, we, I have allowed public comment throughout the agenda and very, I think you.

[1:16:49] I, I would like to address Joe's, I'm not saying about the investigation that we did.

[1:16:56] That's not what I should do.

[1:16:58] Same thing at that time.

[1:17:02] Here's how you go.

[1:17:04] Great.

[1:17:04] But you've had more than 10 minutes already.

[1:17:06] That was the difference.

[1:17:08] And that's actually not the matter.

[1:17:10] So, can you say something?

[1:17:12] Yeah, plan.

[1:17:14] So I think we're kind of talking about two different issues.

[1:17:16] When it comes to this topic, one, you know, was that document part of a larger

[1:17:21] statement was that private and the other pieces that happened at the planning board

[1:17:29] meeting that came up with that planning board meeting, but it was part of that discussion.

[1:17:36] I can't.

[1:17:37] I did what I could do in terms of that investigation.

[1:17:41] I was willing to discuss what the personnel policy says and obviously, the competition

[1:17:46] And it's something that's the same to all the initial,

[1:17:50] and is it a heck of a competition?

[1:17:52] So that's why I was wanting to.

[1:17:54] Yeah.

[1:17:55] To my knowledge, it wasn't the outcome of the actual.

[1:17:59] There was a problem in turning.

[1:18:00] The assumption is, it's confidential.

[1:18:03] It says an online.

[1:18:04] Yeah, that's.

[1:18:06] And then there are a saying,

[1:18:07] and you are a five section four.

[1:18:11] It doesn't give a blanket immunity

[1:18:14] because somebody's on a board, so they're dealing with that information, that was awesome, and it was next to target somebody, me.

[1:18:27] It was targeting me, it's failed, and he's no longer there.

[1:18:33] I didn't name the person.

[1:18:36] The person that's on the board named or was named the person.

[1:18:44] So it's nothing to do with me.

[1:18:47] I have to start getting an act, an act, an act, an act, an act.

[1:18:56] I appreciate the fact that you did the investigation,

[1:19:00] with regards to what was revealed at the end of the war.

[1:19:04] But I think we have to take it back to step,

[1:19:07] and to look at the issue, which actually is not whether it was my new one,

[1:19:12] whether it was successful and more of the fact that a employee of this town provided information

[1:19:20] to an individual to not have the authority to receive it to my knowledge and to know that

[1:19:27] you will have a request, certainly not on the 2020 SIX list of requests that were made for

[1:19:33] I do want to give up all of the other ones over there.

[1:19:37] And so, had Mr. Whatel been a enlightenment at that time?

[1:19:44] He wouldn't have had the authority to receive it,

[1:19:47] because so, like, four members have the authority

[1:19:50] to have anything to do with any kind of legal issue.

[1:19:55] He had not been real addicted.

[1:19:58] At the time, that was sent because not so, like,

[1:20:00] It's a family member, that's completely out of their scope.

[1:20:05] And so that document was shared.

[1:20:08] The information within document was shared

[1:20:11] was some who did not have the authority to receive it.

[1:20:17] And in the policy, the personnel policy

[1:20:20] instates that whether unemployed, knowingly, or unknowingly

[1:20:26] releases confidential information

[1:20:28] It is on a fence that can be addressed with a variety of issues up to an including termination

[1:20:37] of employment, and on top of that, it says that prior to releasing information, if there's

[1:20:46] a question in their mind, or if there's any possibility that this should not be released,

[1:20:54] to contact the talent manager first before he's used that was not done.

[1:21:02] So anyone else does what happened in a planning?

[1:21:05] Well, I just want to say what I learned is that it was a public document.

[1:21:12] I also talked about the paragraph at the bottom of the email, which are on lots of different emails,

[1:21:18] which was not a confidentiality statement.

[1:21:24] It was more of a, if you're receiving this,

[1:21:27] and you're not the intended person.

[1:21:28] It was not an email.

[1:21:29] So don't do anything with that.

[1:21:32] So again, that's what I learned.

[1:21:35] And I was asked to look through that.

[1:21:38] And I do.

[1:21:39] So, but that doesn't address what that person has done.

[1:21:44] That's what I might promise this.

[1:21:46] What?

[1:21:46] Which is why it was a public document.

[1:21:50] It was not public, I can check on that.

[1:21:53] And it's not, it is protected under 985 Section 4.

[1:22:00] Because it is marked confidential.

[1:22:02] I can't distribute emails that you send to me.

[1:22:06] They even marked that on the bottom.

[1:22:09] Right?

[1:22:09] I couldn't do that.

[1:22:12] So she did it, I named her, Mr. Miguel did, Mr. Miguel said, I didn't see the email, but it refers to the education.

[1:22:25] It was a good chat. You know with HF, I know they had to try to...

[1:22:32] It wasn't if failed. He's off. The person that started it is still here and she's under your purview.

[1:22:43] Yeah, the term litigation, somebody may have misquote by using that term.

[1:22:55] It's still covering under the manual for employees and that's under your purview.

[1:23:02] So,

[1:23:05] I'll look and do it further, I'll look and do it further, yeah, all right,

[1:23:15] anything else?

[1:23:16] Nothing.

[1:23:18] Nothing for me?

[1:23:20] No.

[1:23:21] Then I will take the motion.

[1:23:24] I'm going to turn.

[1:23:26] Second.

[1:23:27] On favor?

[1:23:28] Aye.

[1:23:34] Thank you, board.

[1:23:35] Thank you.

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