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I'm back to a parking lot we can pull in me.
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And here in Richfield, Utah, today's,
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and Dave's on the calls what it looks like. Yeah, we're
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just waiting on everybody else.
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No one responded to
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my emails. So I don't know.
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Megan, can you move the team so I can see the agenda? Yeah, my bad. Yeah, let's wait and make sure Paul and Brandon can jump on.
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Well,
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I'm on the road today, you bring I am. Yeah, I mean, I mean, Richfield today actually done in Richfield, so wow. Yeah, rain didn't make it that far South did it.
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It rained pretty hard actually this morning driving down. It was pretty rainy even a little snow. So yeah, we're at.
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mountains got they got quite a bit of snow actually so yeah there's more coming yeah hopefully a lot more as I say this week looks pretty pretty wet so yeah we went up to
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Boise for the weekend and there was a lot of rain going up coming back yeah okay yeah I suppose to go to Idaho on Friday and it's like a snow
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store getting Friday so like yeah maybe I'll move that to next week. I do that. Yeah. Yeah.
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There's a couple stretches where if they get snow they can really get hammered,
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get kind of hairy, especially between well really between tree mountain, well maybe north of
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Brigham up to Burley really. I can be gnarly at times. I had to go out to Oregon three or four weeks
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to go like the last time it actually snowed hard. It was that past between Tremont and
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Twin Falls was terrible. If you would fly by me, and I'm like, they're going to be off
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the side of the road to turn off. You'd go five, six miles and then see their car on the
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side of the road. I'm like, oh, so, yeah, because they can get the wind to it's, yeah. Yeah.
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You don't want to mess around with it. Well, we've got Paul here. Let's go ahead and get
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start. We've got a quorum and we get started at the meeting and then if Brandon jumps on, that'd be great.
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Does that work, Paul?
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Is that start?
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No, you're good. Well, let's go ahead and get started.
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Let's see, it's 1203 on my clock, Megan. Is that everything recording?
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Yeah, we're recording.
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Okay. So it's two out of three days April 13th, we're going to go ahead and get started with the
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Goshen Valley local district board meeting. We just have a couple items to cover today, but let's
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go ahead and get started with the welcomes and rule call and as we always do, we'll also do a
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conflict of interest statement at that time as well. But brain shepherd, I'm chairman of the board
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and work for the Goshe Valley local district.
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And my conflict is I work also for the landowner farmland reserve.
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He can sell any conflict that is out there.
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I just want to make it clear that work for the landowner.
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Paul.
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Paul Mons.
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I board member.
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And I work for Alberta Valley Ag Ag reserves here in Alberta.
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And I believe that's about it.
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Thanks Paul.
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Brandon Anderson, member of the board in treasure with Gussian Valley local district.
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Conflict of interest would be work for Alberta Valley Ag which resides within the district.
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Great, Megan we'll just kind of go through the roll call so I'll have you a Tracy go and
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kind of go from there. Okay, I'm Megan Robinette. I am the district clerk and I also work for the landowner.
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I'm Tracy McDaniel, I'm the deputy district clerk, sorry.
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You're good.
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All right, Dave, let's just have Dave Peter and Melanie introduce yourself.
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So then if there's a couple minutes, let me know.
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Dave Sanders, an accountant for the district, no conflict.
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Peter Gessel, Smith Harfick, and General Counsel for the district.
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Thank you.
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And Melanie McFicker, I work for the landowner and also volunteer engineering consulting
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the district.
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Thanks, Melanie.
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Anybody else on the call?
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I believe that's everybody correct?
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I think that's everybody.
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Great.
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Well, we sent the minutes out to be reviewed by the board.
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Brandon or Paul, did you have any questions or comments on the minutes from the
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January, January, I can't speak to you guys, sorry January 22nd meeting in
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the comments.
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No, I don't.
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I don't have any.
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Okay.
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I welcome you.
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I am the neither.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I'll motion.
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No.
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Oh, motion to accept the minutes is presented.
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Now second.
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Now we have a motion by Brandon Anderson and a second by Paul since we're all on phone.
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Let's just vote by verbal. So we'll go just down the line. Brandy want to vote. Say, all right, all right, pass the unanimous. Does that clear enough Megan? Sorry, if that wasn't clear, but that was clear.
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Yeah.
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All right. See how many public here on the meeting will skip pass the public comment unless Melody is our volunteer. Do you want to give us any public comment?
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No, no comments at this time.
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Yeah, so let's get to the meeting.
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Just get to the couple of items we have here.
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First day, let's ten of tells where we're out with the financials.
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Can you bring it up?
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Yes, so I have which would you like to go over?
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The last one, the budget report, the very last one.
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Yeah, it's pretty boring actually,
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because you're only three months into the calendar fiscal year so there's not much
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been happening in other than the three months worth of water usage and the insurance policy
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paid so not much is taking place. Happy to answer any questions but not too much happened.
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That was a question on the insurance policy that came up recently and maybe Peter we just need
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a set of a time to talk about, you know, if most districts have their own separate insurance policy,
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I thought it was kind of interesting that we're a public entity paying for private insurance.
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And I think the only issues, you know, the only infrastructure we have access to is the well that's
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owned by farm under reserve. But that's also insured by Alberta water company. And so I don't know,
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That's just a question I thought what what are we paying for cover joys and I think covers
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contractors and employees who don't have any employees.
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Yeah, I think it's probably not a bad idea to go over the insurance with you. I think because
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there's that that's the sort of situation where the landowner has the full overlap with the
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uh uh uh with the district uh make sure that those policies are the right ones and that um they
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cover what you need as a as a as a government as a local district. So yeah. Yeah. Public
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entities normally have I've only seen two insurance agencies, Utah local
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governments trust and uh Olympus Olympus insurance and I got a good relationship with Olympus
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if we need to go that direction.
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Yeah, Olympus is really good.
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Olympus is good.
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A lot of our clients use the local government trust as well.
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But let's take a look at your policies
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and welcome Dave, you're input on that as well
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with your experience.
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But we've got a ton of government clients
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and let's make sure you got the E&O insurance and such.
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And that, yeah, like you said,
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you aren't paying for other things, you know, because Olympus is private, so just having
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to be private insurance isn't necessarily wrong or bad, but let's make sure you got the
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right coverage.
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Okay, Olympus does have a better policy language for water districts.
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Yeah, when I looked at the policies recently, I, Megan and I were on, I just thought this
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was a funny, some of the coverage just didn't seem quite to what we need.
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So, yeah. Maybe we'll set up a meeting. That's not an action item for the board to vote on, but that would be helpful to just understand our
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Current policy and where we need to go. So
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Brandon and Paul, do you have any other questions on the finances?
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No, I don't. I don't have any.
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No, it looks good to me.
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Okay. Anything else, Dave, to anticipate, I guess we
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Not that I know of.
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Yeah,
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and I think Melanie, we still haven't done any work with the phone call and it's correct to really push that
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That's right. Yeah, that's not moving forward yet
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I just not had time to revisit all of my notes from
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Before and we didn't quite have the money figured out for that and and just haven't gotten a chance to get in touch with them
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And I still wonder once again timing if you know, we're not getting a lot of demand for
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So we want to get our plan put together.
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Yeah, you definitely want to be ahead of the curve.
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But you also need to know what you're going to need the impact fees for.
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Is what infrastructure are you actually going to need?
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Right.
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So yeah, it's a balancing.
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Yeah, it's an interesting way.
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Well,
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I'm not in a hurry to.
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with our current budget situation,
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you know, I kind of want to be conservative.
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So, no need to push that quickly,
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unless we see some things changing.
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Sure. Okay. Great.
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All right.
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Let's go to item number six.
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I believe it was on the agenda about
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about our contract with the
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between farmlanders or the amendment.
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Yeah, and actually we're
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doing a whole new agreement.
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Yeah.
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It was a agreement that started because of the amendment, yes.
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Right. We wanted to switch out the water rates and then just with the new entity, it just felt a little cleaner to just do a whole new agreement.
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That's what we have.
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I think we had added a little bit to that section 2.2 and Peter and
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and our, you know, as the landowner, our council had discussed that, I think we're,
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I think we've got it in a good place now, and, you know, that's the board has any questions
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or I think Peter, we've resolved your concerns, but if there's anything else there, you know,
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any other questions anyone has? Happy to answer those.
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if I could just speak to the lease real quick.
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No, any appreciate your keeping on this and for setting up that meeting with Chris.
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I still would have structured the whole lease differently.
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I just have to say that, but that's me.
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Again, conversation was good.
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No, any was smart to pull in the policy that I'd forgotten existed.
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I am comfortable with the district executing this lease.
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as written. Again, I would have structured it differently, but I'm a contract guy. I have
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opinions, I have thoughts, but no, this is not...
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Just doesn't open up. It's a sound contract. I don't have any concerns with. I guess the one edit it and forgive me, Melanie, for not getting this to you. The only edit I would make to this draft that Melanie's prepared would be to change the words there. It's at the bottom of the opening recital parties and then the first line of recital A. Basic local district is no longer a thing in Utah code. That is what it was and what it is in local district.
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district is still an appropriate part of the name, but the district is actually a special
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district. It's not a special service district. Just an update to the language used in the
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code, so the board would ask that they approve that. It would work either way, but I'd like
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to be a bit of a stick or just on that that we change basic local, the special. But beyond
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that, again, appreciate your work on it, Melanie, and I'm good with it.
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okay yeah we can we can make that change and it's the board agrees yeah I'd
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be I'd be comfortable
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with that Brandon Paul any other thoughts on the contract or suggestions or edits are you saying
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instead of being Ocean Valley local district we're Ocean Valley special district now the name of the
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district didn't change it was changed the name of local districts was changed in statute two or three
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years ago because for qualifying for certain government funds, federal funds, they got confused.
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They thought that local districts were not special districts. They got super confused,
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and we're holding up funding, so we changed that in code. But Goshen Valley local district,
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I expect what we call special districts now are still local districts. It's the same thing,
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and the law did not require that you change your name. So the language there would say,
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a Goshen Valley local district comma, a special district
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organized under the law for saving Utah, right?
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Yes.
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And that's just again, it's a minor thing.
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But yeah, I think we heard you too, Peter,
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about the concerns about us leasing the water versus owning.
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And I think talking to the landowner,
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there's a process in place whenever that,
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there's ready for development.
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There will be kind of a goal.
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Now was a good catch by my Melanie.
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and thank you. That saved us some headaches. And that's why I'm comfortable with it written as is it's still sort of a weird setup, but everything this is a unique situation, right? So yeah, so I'm like I said, I'm comfortable with it because there's no really no reason to start from scratch or to take a different angle and approach this works for what we're doing and the connection process that you approved a few two three years ago.
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So absolutely, that fills in those blanks and addresses those concerns.
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As far as what happens when it starts being developed, right?
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Yep.
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Right.
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With that, I would welcome a motion that would prove the contract with the amendment suggested
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by Peter.
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Yeah, I'll make that motion in the way except this agreement with that one basic change in
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wording.
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We have a motion to approve as presented with the update to the name of the district in
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the first paragraph of the contract and a second, so motion by Paul and a second by
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Brandon.
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All those in favor say aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Motion passes unanimous.
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Great.
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The last item we had on the agenda was just kind of any other business to discuss or items
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as we need to prepare for the next meeting
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in between now and next meeting.
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So any other business or items we need to discuss?
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Right, and I had one question.
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I wanted to turn up.
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This would be a notion by local districts.
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And all I don't know exactly are boundaries,
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but our neighbor here, you know, Heaver Barlow,
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this is just close to where I live.
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he's just drilled two new wells. I don't know, is that groundwater? I mean, it sounds like
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you had to permit to drill them. I'm just wondering does he have the water rights for that, and I don't
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know if that has anything to do with Goshen Valley local district or not. I think I saw those change
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applications by the way, Brandon, I have like an alert for any change applications that are
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filed in the basin that I get, you know, an email and I kind of peek at them to see what's what,
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and I believe I did see that one. I will double check, but I believe I did see that one
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and they did have a water right. It was, I don't remember those specifics, but, you know,
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they were moving it from one place to another or something like that. So it wasn't anything that,
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you know, violated like the groundwater management plan or policy or anything like that,
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but I will double double check and confirm that. But any time we drill in the base and it does
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like we're all right, interconnected, so it probably does have interest to the ground out there.
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So I mean, not that he's I don't think he's going to be using a lot of water, but it's it's just
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interesting. He's drilled two wells there for the small amount of acres he's got. Yeah.
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That's why you got no one he looking out for you and engaged with the the mountainebo. So
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yeah. You're right to pay attention for sure. Definitely. Yeah.
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I'll then we'll check on that and I'll send a follow up email that just to let you guys know
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what it is. That would be helpful. Yeah. Thanks, Melanie. Sure.
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Other items?
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Maybe Melanie would
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just report Melanie and I met with an engineer that's looking at potentially working with our
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neighbors to the west, the mines, just west of us. So there might be some some discussions moving
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forward about that water again coming from the chief consolidated mine. I think you're three or four
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years ago as a board, we talked about that water and then it kind of went away.
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They're looking at ways to dewater the mine again and bring water, but there's a lot of
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issues we'd have to walk through before anything happens.
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So just FYI, that's
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all I've got.
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So Brandon and Paul, if we don't have anything outside, welcome a motion we adjourned.
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Our next meeting is July, what does our next meeting, July 9th, I believe.
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So.
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I'd make a motion to adjourn the meeting, I second that.
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All right. Motion is approved. It will go to adjourn. Thanks, everybody.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. Bye-bye.