[0:00] Item nine. So, okay. Thank you.

[0:05] Item six is a consent calendar. The

[0:08] following items are presented for

[0:10] approval without a discussion as a

[0:11] single agenda item. Is there a council

[0:13] person that wishes to pull an item

[0:17] to discuss outside of the consent

[0:19] calendar?

[0:21] I don't I don't I don't believe we've

[0:23] received any public comment regarding

[0:24] that. So, is there a motion to approve

[0:26] the consent calendar? I'll motion to

[0:28] approve the consent calendar.

[0:30] » Is there a second?

[0:31] » I'll second.

[0:33] » Any discussion?

[0:36] Uh no. And all those in favor of the

[0:38] motion say I.

[0:39] » I.

[0:40] » All eyes.

[0:42] Thank you. Now we'll go to management

[0:45] reports. Uh

[0:47] Mr. Trill.

[0:52] » All right. Good evening, Mr. Mayor,

[0:53] council members, staff, and

[0:56] resident

[0:58] residents. Um, okay. Um,

[1:02] so, uh, what we got going this week, um,

[1:05] we got some stuff with the Royal

[1:06] Theater. They were able to, uh, get some

[1:09] footers poured on the inside of the

[1:10] facility. Uh, they got the okay for the

[1:13] facade, um, for the front wall. Um,

[1:16] they've started demoing that, uh, a

[1:19] little bit at a time. Um they still

[1:21] can't really go all the way because

[1:24] we're still waiting for the encroment

[1:25] permit for um the sidewalk and and all

[1:28] that through CALR. Um all of which was

[1:30] submitted last week. Um so that's just

[1:33] pending now. Um we are kind of starting

[1:36] to make some relationships with the um

[1:39] permit inspectors and the the permit

[1:41] writers. Um it's a slow process uh kind

[1:45] of befriending them, but they're kind of

[1:47] starting to see what we're going

[1:48] through. So, uh, they're kind of

[1:49] starting to come on our side.

[1:50] » Good.

[1:51] » Um, they are getting inspected this week

[1:55] on, um, some interior rebar and some

[1:58] rebar on the south pad. Um, those

[2:01] pending passing the the city inspector.

[2:04] Then, uh, they hope to pour at least the

[2:06] south pad this week. Um

[2:09] and then

[2:11] um they're doing some re um

[2:16] uh checking some stuff with the

[2:18] architect. Um but they yanked off some

[2:20] plaster on the inside of the building or

[2:22] the bathrooms and uh it doesn't look

[2:24] like it's going to fit with the original

[2:26] design. So they're probably going to

[2:27] have to fur it out a little bit and then

[2:29] and then throw some drywall. Um but

[2:31] they're just making sure that that's

[2:33] within the cost formula that that we

[2:35] have going right now. Um, and then with

[2:40] the park, um, with Las Muheres, uh, we

[2:43] got the skate park guys out there. Um,

[2:46] they're getting their construction

[2:47] going. Uh, they started doing some

[2:49] paving in the parking area on the, um, I

[2:52] guess it's the Ninth Street side.

[2:54] » Mhm.

[2:54] » Um, right there by the jail. They've

[2:57] redone some stuff right there. Um, they

[2:58] had to pull some stuff out and, put some

[3:01] stuff back in because the sidewalks

[3:02] weren't uh, poured with ADA compliance.

[3:05] But, uh, all that got fixed. So, uh,

[3:08] they're moving right along. Um,

[3:12] their big thing that they had is the,

[3:14] um, portaloo, which is the outside

[3:16] bathroom that's going in there. That

[3:17] takes some processing time, but they're

[3:19] anticipating that the end of June,

[3:20] beginning of July. Uh, so, you know,

[3:23] it's still falling right in the the

[3:25] middle of their construction period. So,

[3:27] u, we're not going to get bogged down at

[3:28] all with that. Um over here at 303 at

[3:31] the courtyard, um all we're really

[3:35] waiting on is the gates. Um they had to

[3:38] do a redesign because of um I think the

[3:42] original design had the gate kind of

[3:44] floating um instead of on a wheel like

[3:47] on a track and the distance wasn't taken

[3:50] into account. So now with the distance

[3:53] uh they're getting one with the wheel

[3:54] put on. Uh so they're getting that all

[3:56] back sorted out. Um but even with that,

[3:59] they're expecting that hopefully. Uh

[4:02] fingers crossed this week. Um and all

[4:05] they're doing is striping. Um putting

[4:08] some some landscaping behind the bus

[4:10] stop right there against the fence. Uh

[4:12] they're going to replace the fence

[4:13] slats. Uh make that all kind of look um

[4:18] even the same, you know, all the way

[4:19] across. Um and then once that done,

[4:23] that's done. That'll be the first

[4:24] project of 26 complete. Um we're

[4:27] shooting for possibly this week. Um

[4:31] worst case scenario will be next Friday.

[4:33] Um with trying to get um Smart to come

[4:39] on over um pull into the little bus

[4:41] charging station, get some, you know,

[4:44] some stuff for the social media stuff

[4:46] and and uh show that we actually have a

[4:49] fully functioning uh charging station

[4:51] and um fleet charging all that as well.

[4:55] Um, they did run into an issue with the

[4:57] breaker. So, pending how fast that

[5:01] actually comes in. Uh, it might not

[5:03] actually be working for the picture. U,

[5:05] but it'll be like the next week. Uh,

[5:07] that's just, you know, way order the way

[5:10] ordering goes. You know, sometimes you

[5:11] get here when you want it, sometimes you

[5:12] don't. Um, so that's that. Um the only

[5:16] other thing we kind of had um you know

[5:19] we've had day and error coming through

[5:20] all this uh

[5:23] all this grant paperwork and we're

[5:24] starting to get a bunch of you know

[5:26] reimbursements going and and getting

[5:28] some money coming back to us. Um, we

[5:30] were on a talk last week um with the new

[5:34] agency that is doing our uh grant

[5:36] management. Um, and they brought up that

[5:40] based on our population, CDBG might be

[5:43] giving us um formula money or might

[5:46] should be giving us formula money

[5:48] because of our population and we're DAC

[5:50] and all these kind of things that kind

[5:51] of meet this little criteria. Uh, so

[5:54] they are looking into that and then we

[5:55] will let you guys know what they come up

[5:57] with. But uh that is all I have. So is

[6:01] there any questions?

[6:03] » I think I mentioned

[6:05] » No, go ahead.

[6:07] » That the charging station at the senior

[6:10] center is that going to we're going to

[6:13] eliminate that and charging is going to

[6:15] go

[6:17] this street.

[6:18] » That's correct. As soon as um charging

[6:20] is fully functional at the courtyard at

[6:23] 303 um then we can charge our fleet

[6:25] vehicles. Uh so we will decommission the

[6:28] charging station at the senior center

[6:31] and then with hopes that with the um uh

[6:36] earmark funds that we received from

[6:38] Carver Hall's office just replace that

[6:40] with a pay to use charger so that we

[6:42] don't eliminate the ability for people

[6:44] to charge there.

[6:45] » Um we just don't make it free.

[6:48] » So that's the that's the plan.

[6:50] » Okay. Thank you. Did you just have a

[6:52] question?

[6:53] » Yeah, I did. Um, I know that David

[6:55] recently met with me last week in

[6:57] regards to some concerns, um, in regards

[7:00] to not having a recreation manager and I

[7:03] still continue to get those concerns. I

[7:05] wanted to see if there you can share a

[7:07] little bit about if there is a plan in

[7:09] place. I know that there's summer

[7:10] recreation coming up. Um, kids are out

[7:13] on school. So, um, you know, I just

[7:16] signed up for the Junior Giants as a

[7:18] coach. I want to see what that looks

[7:20] like. I know that um I got an email

[7:22] saying that um that little league opens

[7:25] up next week and so I want to make sure

[7:27] that parents are in forformed. What does

[7:29] that look like for them? They're going

[7:31] to start making plans. Um and then um I

[7:34] continue to get um questions in regards

[7:36] to the horseshoes. I know that um when

[7:39] we had the cleanup at the park, there

[7:41] was some funding that went into

[7:43] supporting um the park updates. And so,

[7:48] um, also if you have any updates in

[7:50] regards to that, that way I can also

[7:51] share with the horseshoes. I think

[7:52] they're just eager to get out there and

[7:54] play. And, um, I think, um, anytime we

[7:57] have a space for the community, that's

[7:59] really important to keep maintained.

[8:02] » Yeah. Uh, so we'll start with the Junior

[8:03] Giant stuff. Um,

[8:07] the, um, I guess he's the local

[8:09] commissioner, uh, Fernando. He came by

[8:11] today. Uh, I was not in the office, but

[8:13] I intend to call him tomorrow. Um that

[8:15] is not something that we're looking to

[8:16] stop or postpone. Um but as uh you know

[8:22] today being a council day, there's not a

[8:24] lot of room for just random meetings. Um

[8:28] so that's on the agenda tomorrow. Uh

[8:31] because we need to get in touch with

[8:32] him. Uh find out how many coaches we

[8:34] have. Do we have enough coaches? Uh what

[8:36] are the steps going forward? Um I think

[8:38] they have a Slack channel that they do

[8:40] their communication on. Um so we need to

[8:42] get up to speed on that. and then uh

[8:45] also start to get in touch with the um

[8:48] recreation commission and get them more

[8:51] involved and back on board uh with this

[8:54] whole process. Um

[8:56] and then for the horseshoes uh the mayor

[9:00] brought that up to me this morning as

[9:01] well. Um so we will start having the

[9:06] maintenance guys go out and assess that

[9:08] and get that back in operational order.

[9:11] Um, you know, with it being a horseshoe

[9:14] pit, it shouldn't take that long to

[9:15] actually get functioning again. Um,

[9:17] they're pretty simple stuff. Uh, there

[9:20] should be like a one day turnaround or

[9:21] so. So, uh, we'll get them out there,

[9:24] get that going.

[9:25] » That's That is pretty easy fix. There's

[9:27] three horseshoe pits. Uh, Trust Pro

[9:31] donated wood about a month and a half

[9:34] ago for that and it's in the storage

[9:36] area. And so it's a matter of uh just

[9:40] getting the crew out there. And I know

[9:42] the fence was down and then sand was put

[9:44] there. Uh I I don't know about that, but

[9:47] in a horseshoe pit, you have to have

[9:49] clay in the actual pit or or

[9:51] » I think that was added the clay when

[9:53] » Inside um when we did the park cleanup,

[9:56] um my I

[9:58] » When was

[9:59] » When we did the park cleanup, I had to

[10:01] excavate all the sand out um probably 3

[10:03] hours in there and then my father went

[10:05] the next day um made sure that there was

[10:07] already clay inside the horseshoe pit so

[10:09] it wouldn't bounce. So my dad just mixed

[10:12] it up and put it back in. So that that

[10:14] does not need to be touched the sand

[10:16] inside because it already has clay and

[10:18] it's um approved to not bounce.

[10:21] » So just is that the one closer to the

[10:23] restroom?

[10:24] » I believe all I have to ask him, but I

[10:26] believe all the sand was fixed.

[10:28] » No, there's I think there's three of the

[10:31] boards that are down. So it's so it's

[10:34] going to take more than just what what's

[10:36] there now, but at least to get one one

[10:38] going. Um and I don't know. I think our

[10:41] staff put the fence back up and um that

[10:45] should be an easy fix. So, and Fernando

[10:48] is with who?

[10:51] » Uh he is with the Junior Giants.

[10:52] » Oh, is where from San from San.

[10:55] » Okay, good.

[10:56] » Yeah, he uh Cynthia brought him over

[10:58] this afternoon, but I was not available.

[11:01] So,

[11:02] » All right. And then just to follow up,

[11:04] um, one of my first questions was if we

[11:06] had like a plan in place with not having

[11:08] a recreation manager or will a plan be,

[11:11] uh, shared with us as we move forward?

[11:13] » Um, so

[11:17] for the summer, which is probably the

[11:19] actual concern, right? Um, giving kids

[11:22] somewhere to, you know, hang out and

[11:25] have fun. Um,

[11:28] you know this

[11:31] I'm sorry you're pointing.

[11:42] » Thank you. Well,

[11:43] » So it's not live.

[11:44] » Okay.

[11:45] » I I don't know how to do it live.

[11:46] » It's not live. So,

[11:47] » But I'll I'll forward Shirley the email

[11:49] with the link.

[11:51] » Yeah, absolutely.

[11:53] » Thank you. Um,

[11:56] so with the plan for the summer, we're

[11:58] not

[12:00] going to cut anything that's like say a

[12:03] Wednesday and Friday drop in kind of

[12:05] thing. Um,

[12:07] and then if there's people here in city

[12:09] hall working, uh, you know, like they

[12:11] would come and play basketball and stuff

[12:12] like that. I mean, that's not

[12:14] necessarily something that we intend to

[12:15] change. Um, but what I would encourage

[12:18] is some of these other agencies like the

[12:19] schools, the Boys and Girls Club to be

[12:21] more proactive and get more involved

[12:22] with their community, you know, because

[12:24] city hall can absorb every activity. We

[12:26] don't have the staffing, we don't have

[12:27] the manpower, we don't have the

[12:29] supervision. Um, but we will try to keep

[12:33] things going the best we can. You know,

[12:36] we have outdoor facilities here. We have

[12:38] outdoor facilities at Okonnell. Uh, so

[12:40] there is locations where people can

[12:43] participate in, you know, recreation.

[12:46] Um,

[12:47] I think as a city we're going to try to

[12:51] maintain the Junior Giants the best we

[12:53] can and have that our plan going

[12:54] forward. Um,

[12:58] because that's bringing structured

[12:59] activities to the city, which is

[13:01] probably what's really missing as far as

[13:04] participation out of club. Um, so I

[13:09] would say that is our focus going

[13:11] forward. But to say, you know, a week

[13:15] post the recreation manager, do we have

[13:18] a direct plan in place to make sure that

[13:20] every kid is taken care of over the

[13:21] summer? We do not.

[13:26] » Go ahead. Um hopefully by the end of the

[13:28] month or um within the new next months,

[13:30] it would be great just to make sure that

[13:32] our recreation commission is up to date

[13:35] so they're not feeling um left out or

[13:37] anything as we move along with this

[13:38] process.

[13:39] » You know, according to the minutes, they

[13:41] are updated in terms of what's going on.

[13:43] So if you you see seen the minutes,

[13:45] there's a the continuing activities.

[13:48] So I think they're aware of what's going

[13:50] on. But like the Junior Giants, uh first

[13:53] of all, the field's ready. All you have

[13:55] to do is add people. Uh, I don't know. I

[13:57] don't know the numbers that were

[14:00] registered. Um, I don't know if anybody

[14:03] has that.

[14:04] » Okay. Yeah,

[14:05] » I don't have that off top of my head.

[14:06] » Okay. But the field's ready. It's 99.9%.

[14:10] There's a couple other things we have to

[14:11] fix, but it's ready to bases are in.

[14:14] It's all level. All the dirt's in. Um,

[14:18] everything's clean, ready, ready to go.

[14:20] So, so in fact, people are out actually

[14:23] using it now. They're out there playing

[14:24] and practicing. So that's good. You said

[14:26] that little league's starting.

[14:28] » Did you say little league?

[14:29] » The the one for here, the Junior Giants.

[14:31] » For the Junior Giants.

[14:32] » Yeah, correct. that's supposed to, you

[14:33] know,

[14:35] several months ago I uh Arniful couldn't

[14:37] go to the to San Francisco for the

[14:40] ambassadors meeting and I emailed them

[14:43] to find out how to how to get a hold of

[14:44] that the ambassadors because you have to

[14:48] there's specific things that the Junior

[14:50] Giants requires for the coaching for the

[14:54] there's a a list of like the seven weeks

[14:57] of you have to do this and perhaps

[15:00] Fernando has that and be good to get

[15:01] information from him see what's you know

[15:03] what's going on. So

[15:04] » Yeah, it's my understanding that um the

[15:07] Santa Maria like region or the Santa

[15:10] Maria Valley I guess is um they did have

[15:13] uh somebody who had attended all those

[15:16] activities that the Giants had put on.

[15:17] » Okay, good.

[15:18] » Perfect. I I was just reached out by the

[15:21] commissioners for Guadalupe and sharing

[15:22] their concerns. And so that's why I

[15:24] bring that up because I did hear

[15:26] firsthand their concerns and we

[15:28] previously had a joint commission um

[15:30] joint meeting with them where they

[15:32] shared that they kind of felt out of the

[15:33] loop and they wanted to be more

[15:35] supportive and so um just want to make

[15:37] sure that um we're supporting each other

[15:39] during this difficult time.

[15:40] » Yeah. Uh, you know, if you could, you

[15:42] could give them my phone number um and

[15:45] email and, you know, they can connect

[15:48] with me and we can talk it out on the

[15:50] moment and see what kind of ideas they

[15:52] have versus, you know, trying to pass

[15:55] everything through you. Ju just to make

[15:57] it to where, you know, if if we can come

[15:59] up with something a little bit quicker

[16:00] and and get these questions kind of

[16:02] answered a little bit more proactively,

[16:03] then, you know, the it's ease

[16:06] transitions.

[16:07] » Yes. My last question. um would the

[16:09] commission meetings moving forward be

[16:11] cancelled or are you going to continue

[16:13] to have them? And if you're not going to

[16:14] continue to have them, would you uh be

[16:16] okay with reaching out with them and

[16:17] having that conversation?

[16:19] » No, the intent is not to halt anything

[16:22] with the recreation commission.

[16:24] » Okay.

[16:24] » I I think the city needs the recreation

[16:26] commission more than

[16:28] » Okay.

[16:28] » Any other commission that we have going.

[16:31] And I would be more than happy to meet

[16:32] with him with the with the commission

[16:34] because Joe when I talked to Joe Joe

[16:36] Harris he uh he was concerned about

[16:38] Wednesday volleyball and I think he was

[16:41] he actually staffed it. So there's a m

[16:44] it's a matter of you don't want to turn

[16:46] that away because there's quite a few

[16:48] people that play it that in basketball.

[16:51] So it's a matter of of like David says

[16:53] just organizing it to see who can do

[16:56] what. So I think during this lapse that

[17:00] there's people that will come to, you

[17:02] know, come forward to to help out. So

[17:07] So is your dad still involved with the

[17:09] horseshoe?

[17:10] » Yeah, he's still

[17:10] » So is he does he have a shovel?

[17:12] » Yeah, he he took his own shovel to

[17:15] » He felt really bad actually cuz he

[17:17] learned that um I was out there for 3

[17:18] hours with Mr. Navaro um and another

[17:21] gentleman and he's like, "You should

[17:22] have told me I would have been there."

[17:23] So the next day he went out there um I

[17:26] believe he spent two weekends trying to

[17:27] um fill back the dirt.

[17:29] » Well the thing about it in that instance

[17:31] there should have been a the a plan of

[17:34] who's going to do what when and then uh

[17:36] what the the resources are the like the

[17:39] like there's wood there that's already

[17:41] ready to ready to you know be placed and

[17:44] that's not a hard thing to do. So thank

[17:47] you Dad.

[17:50] Any other questions?

[17:56] All right, we'll go to item eight, the

[17:58] director of public safety.

[18:00] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor, council, staff,

[18:02] and our community members. Um,

[18:07] try to go down through this. Um,

[18:09] currently we're trying to update all the

[18:11] cameras in the parks. Um, some are not

[18:15] working

[18:18] and maybe that one here too.

[18:20] » Yeah. Um here.

[18:23] » Yeah.

[18:28] » Oh, hey Shirley. She can't hear. No.

[18:31] » Okay. Um so, um we're still got some

[18:35] parks offline. Uh and we're still

[18:37] working on trying to get one system for

[18:40] the whole city.

[18:42] Attended hospital board meeting. Um we

[18:45] discussed um as far as some of the new

[18:47] doctors that are coming online. Um, and

[18:50] I spoke with um the president um Susan,

[18:56] I forgot her last name. She's the

[18:57] president of the uh Marian Hospital

[18:59] Board. And

[19:02] » Thank you. And uh we're going to arrange

[19:04] for her to come down to Guadalupe to to

[19:07] have lunch so we can discuss some other

[19:09] issues uh because we're looking at

[19:12] trying to put on a health and safety

[19:14] fair at Riverview. Um I've already went

[19:17] down and spoke to um someone there in

[19:20] the office. Um and I have a meeting with

[19:23] uh one from fire, one from police uh so

[19:26] that we can put together uh what we

[19:28] think some things they may need and then

[19:30] we'll also include them and I want to

[19:32] try to bring some health officials from

[19:35] uh Marian. So that's uh the reason we'll

[19:37] be meeting with the president here in

[19:39] Guadalupe having lunch.

[19:42] also during the week uh um met with uh

[19:45] Hancock president. Uh we were in another

[19:48] board meeting and um he wants to come

[19:51] down to Guadalupe. Um I want to talk to

[19:54] him concerning some um issues about

[19:57] getting some of our kids uh to the

[20:00] college and at least bringing some of

[20:02] the resources here in Guad um at an

[20:05] early age at our junior high level u

[20:07] where it should be starting to kind of

[20:09] get our kids into that thought process.

[20:12] uh a lot sooner than waiting for high

[20:14] school. So, uh he is looking forward to

[20:16] that. Um I just got to set a date so

[20:19] that he can come down and uh we'll tour

[20:22] and talk about things here uh in

[20:24] Guadalupe. I was in a a reb uh a u

[20:27] webinar this morning at uh 6 on on the

[20:31] safer grant um that is opening back up

[20:35] and uh we have Barbara who is our our

[20:38] grant writer. Um, we have all the

[20:41] information. We've applied before. Um,

[20:43] that could be three years that we really

[20:46] don't have to pay for for firefighters.

[20:48] Um, that could help us cuz we just lost

[20:51] our one uh PCF. Um, he's gone to the um

[20:56] wildfires um for the summer. So, we're

[21:00] going to have to look to try to fill. We

[21:01] got uh two potentials um that we hope we

[21:05] can work out something to get them here.

[21:07] Um, we had the Memorial Day event and

[21:10] I'll leave that to the mayor to talk

[21:11] about as far as um I keep saying Sunday.

[21:14] Um,

[21:15] » That that was Monday. Okay. Days kind of

[21:18] flowing after a while. Um,

[21:21] really good event. I'll tell you it was

[21:23] uh and Ameilia was there and so forth.

[21:26] So, uh, I'll leave that to you if if you

[21:28] don't mind. Just give an update.

[21:30] » A will do.

[21:30] » Okay, perfect.

[21:32] um attended the uh police officer

[21:35] memorial and at the Santa Maria Police

[21:37] Department. Um very good event. We had

[21:40] all the way from from LMPoke different

[21:42] departments that were there. So that was

[21:44] the uh um as far as falling officer um

[21:47] memorial that we had there. Um I

[21:50] attended the I'm on the board of the New

[21:52] Life K9 program. So, we were in slow

[21:55] talking about um

[21:58] how to get um service animals to um

[22:03] first responders and to uh veterans. Um

[22:07] the only thing that really kind of came

[22:08] out they um I've never seen the

[22:10] commercial. Everyone talks about the

[22:12] commercial. I have it's me and Debbie in

[22:13] there and uh they said it's been very

[22:15] successful. So, um, I let them know if

[22:19] we're going to they want to do some more

[22:20] commercials, any commercials we're going

[22:22] to film in Guadalupe. So, I says we we

[22:26] need to get that put out in front. Um,

[22:29] probation department as far as the

[22:31] budget uh the budget work group um that

[22:34] was going good, but uh they've had some

[22:37] uh they're going to have some some

[22:38] deficits. Um, and at times that can

[22:41] affect some of our youth that are in

[22:43] that probation system for them to be

[22:45] able to get resources. Um, but I'm going

[22:48] to to uh those monthly meetings uh to

[22:51] make sure that um um kids that are in

[22:54] our area uh are are getting provided

[22:57] services that they really need. Um, last

[23:01] week I attended the uh Santa Maria

[23:03] airport tabletop uh exercise with uh

[23:07] TSA, Homeland Security. We had Santa

[23:10] Maria uh FBI and everybody else. Um,

[23:14] very good uh tabletop. It's something

[23:16] that is mandatory on a regular basis.

[23:19] And it was great to um

[23:22] talk with the the the staff there. Um

[23:26] we're in our ninth year of the contract

[23:30] um that we signed uh public safety and

[23:32] and um the airport and you know we've

[23:36] looked at um approximately over almost

[23:39] about 600 something thousand dollars and

[23:41] that's just revenue um that has come our

[23:44] way. But um talking with our staff here,

[23:47] there's some things that we need to

[23:48] clean up so that we make sure that um

[23:52] that is benefiting us to the best of our

[23:55] abilities if it's if it's going to be a

[23:57] revenue generator.

[23:59] Um public safety, fire and police. Um

[24:02] we're going to be volunteering

[24:05] this Thursday at Boys and Girls Club um

[24:07] at the mentoring event. Um so uh they

[24:10] reached out to us to to head down there.

[24:13] Uh we did this last year um in

[24:16] conjunction with some of the Santa Maria

[24:18] uh people. So um it's really good when

[24:20] we have all our kids there and they'll

[24:22] be sanctioned off with an officer or a

[24:25] firefighter.

[24:27] Um

[24:29] one uh police officer and one

[24:31] firefighter um they're they've been

[24:33] tasked with putting together a kids

[24:35] outreach event. Um I discussed it this

[24:40] weekend with them and um they're they're

[24:43] really excited. So it's more of just uh

[24:45] getting public safety out into the

[24:47] community and the community to uh really

[24:49] get to know us. Um on a more

[24:53] kind of ser oh well the last one before

[24:55] the serious note um after June 12th um I

[24:59] have a uh meeting

[25:02] in uh Monaceto um with uh donors

[25:06] regarding the Royal Theater um and some

[25:09] projects I talk with Dave about uh David

[25:13] about the um opening and uh what are

[25:16] some of those things kind of looking

[25:17] like and um um they have some kind of

[25:21] ideas that we want to put together. Um

[25:24] so uh I'll be uh they're they're in the

[25:27] UK right now. Um I talked with them. So

[25:31] they'll be back and uh we'll be uh

[25:34] meeting just to do preliminaries to see

[25:36] what is the possibilities. Um they're

[25:38] very much to see what like what they can

[25:40] do here in Guadalupe. And so to kind of

[25:43] bring some of those resources up here I

[25:45] think would be um very important.

[25:49] Um, I just finished up after this

[25:52] weekend. Um, met with pretty much or met

[25:55] with all fire uh personnel and met with

[25:59] pretty much all police personnel, sworn

[26:02] and nonsworn. Um, I think it's very

[26:05] important uh regarding the budget. Um,

[26:08] if it's going to affect people, then uh

[26:11] they need to be uh brought into the

[26:13] loop. Um, I gave them as much

[26:15] information that I had to kind of share.

[26:18] And what I was looking for them is for

[26:20] their input. If I'm going to uh ask them

[26:23] to kind of have some of this burden, um,

[26:26] I think it's important for managers to

[26:28] be able to speak to all their employees

[26:30] and see what their their uh, input is

[26:33] and then formulate some. So after that,

[26:35] I was able to put together a public

[26:38] safety contingency plan for for the

[26:41] budgeting. uh we kind of mapped out what

[26:44] our critical department needs were and

[26:46] what our deferred department needs are

[26:48] and then we looked at all our uh where

[26:50] revenue can be brought in um to be able

[26:53] to maybe to support some things and to

[26:56] hold off on some things. So, it was it

[26:57] was very positive and I think uh um the

[27:01] employees uh of course no one's happy

[27:04] with it, but at least they're having a

[27:06] voice and uh that way at least when when

[27:10] things do kind of fall, they understand

[27:11] that that they're going to fall behind

[27:13] this and and we're all going to head in

[27:14] the same direction. So, u it's it's

[27:17] important to to uh get their input and

[27:19] feedback. So um kind of finally finished

[27:22] that and uh they're also gave them the

[27:26] vision of uh what I see us moving

[27:29] forward to for the next fiscal year and

[27:32] the next two years after that um as far

[27:35] as um some of the things that they are

[27:37] looking for what I think that we should

[27:40] be doing following from what the goals

[27:42] are that the uh council gave us a couple

[27:44] years back. um using that as the the

[27:47] template so that way they stay focused

[27:50] on what the mission is and what

[27:52] direction we're going. So with that

[27:55] that's my report unless there's any

[27:57] questions.

[27:58] » Any questions chief?

[27:59] » Thank you chief um for the comment in

[28:02] regards to connecting with our

[28:03] community. I think that's really

[28:05] important um growing up in Gualupe. I

[28:07] didn't have that good relationship and I

[28:09] think that our children deserve that. Um

[28:12] I want to also thank you for reaching

[28:13] out to Dr. Walters. I think that's

[28:15] really an important conversation to be

[28:17] had. Um I've connected with the schools

[28:19] in regards to um kind of this issue is

[28:22] how can we um ensure our kids are going

[28:24] to higher education. Um some things they

[28:27] shared is that um I have toured the Lo

[28:30] Valley the Loke um Hancock College and

[28:32] the Santa Maria one. I went to the

[28:34] public safety department. It was

[28:36] phenomenal um everything they had and I

[28:38] think I even seen some action. Um but

[28:41] seeing how they this um Hancock can

[28:43] expose our community to the different

[28:45] departments, I think it's really

[28:47] important. Um after I worked at the Dune

[28:49] Center for 10 years, I thought, "Wow, if

[28:51] I would have been exposed to this career

[28:53] earlier, I would have been a biologist."

[28:55] Um so exposing our students at

[28:57] » They were too late.

[28:59] » Um is is really important. So if you can

[29:02] just share with Dr. for Walters if

[29:04] there's any way that we can um bring

[29:06] that exposure down to our communities,

[29:08] get our our parents exposed. Just as the

[29:10] mayor mentioned, it's never too late. Uh

[29:12] my partner is going back to Alan Hancock

[29:14] College and I'm really excited to

[29:16] support them. And so, um, if we can

[29:18] expose students early on to what

[29:20] departments there is, um, the better.

[29:22] » And, and that, um, maybe that's some

[29:25] direction I get from you guys here is,

[29:27] um, they've always offered and

[29:30] got to be very straightforward is, you

[29:32] know, it's easy for me to explain to,

[29:34] you know, to go be a cop, be a fireman.

[29:35] I want them to find other jobs. Um, you

[29:39] know, uh, I'm proud of what we do, but,

[29:41] you know, there's there's other

[29:42] opportunities out there. And if we can

[29:44] get them on field trips, you know,

[29:46] especially, you know, someone who might

[29:48] drive a bus, um, that can volunteer

[29:51] their time to be able to, uh, take a

[29:54] group of, uh, young people to to some of

[29:56] those, uh, campuses. Um, I think that'll

[29:59] be great. I believe all third graders

[30:01] here in Guadalupe actually do um I don't

[30:03] know if it's called week of action or

[30:05] bow or something along those lines where

[30:06] they go to Hancock and explore and

[30:09] they're with their teachers but I think

[30:10] it it's a little a step further than

[30:12] that um because they can go expose but

[30:14] what does that conversation looks like

[30:16] with their parents um and their parents

[30:18] telling them they can do that

[30:19] » And that's the key part is getting the

[30:21] parents um because I I did a talk there

[30:24] and I got to meet some of the faculty um

[30:27] and so they're kind of plugged in but

[30:30] that's the key component is is the

[30:32] parents and some are either working or

[30:34] whatever but um if I can find that tie

[30:37] in so that we have not only the

[30:40] community help pushing our youth but

[30:42] then too when they get home so we have

[30:44] 24hour pushing them to the the direction

[30:47] that they should go. So

[30:49] » We'll work together on that. Perfect.

[30:50] » Thank you.

[30:51] » Did uh Mr. Walters talk about the

[30:55] continuing um use of senior center or

[31:01] the bridging the high school to college

[31:04] because they've they've rented that

[31:05] before that whole I don't know have you

[31:07] been in there? I guess you have.

[31:09] » Yes, but I did not see how that program

[31:11] worked.

[31:12] » Well, it they actually had teachers come

[31:14] in and and

[31:17] » That was a night school kind of thing.

[31:18] » Yeah, exactly. So the high school

[31:20] students went to the senior center and

[31:22] they the whole that whole room is set up

[31:24] for classroom and there's no reason why

[31:26] that couldn't be for the younger

[31:29] elementary age age kids also. So uh in

[31:32] the past we had a contract with them to

[31:34] be there. Well, I and only thing I that

[31:36] that's great. And so if anyone here has

[31:38] any of those, please send me like an

[31:40] email so I can have bullets to so I said

[31:43] these are our things and once I get that

[31:45] date down, um I'll make sure I send it

[31:48] around and that way if someone has

[31:50] opportunity to come and put something

[31:52] like into his ear, the more the marrier.

[31:55] » Well, he's he's supportive of that. So

[31:57] there's there's an actual with us the

[31:59] city and and

[32:02] » And the teachers. So

[32:04] » That's great.

[32:04] » More to follow.

[32:05] » Okay.

[32:06] » Any other questions?

[32:09] » Okay. Thank you, Chief.

[32:15] » Uh we're now we're going on to item

[32:17] nine, regular business, discussion,

[32:19] direction regarding the proposed

[32:21] Guadalipia Harvest Festival at Jack

[32:23] Okonnell Park. Uh Mr. Trillo.

[32:26] » All right. Uh Mr. Mayor, council

[32:28] members, community, and staff. Uh so

[32:31] this kind of came to uh fruition a

[32:35] couple months ago um

[32:39] about trying to bring a festival to the

[32:41] city of Guadalupe. Um a first kind of

[32:46] first off for the Central Coast um a way

[32:49] to kind of bring people to the community

[32:51] that wouldn't normally come to the

[32:53] community. Um and bring something about

[32:56] that maybe people in the community would

[32:58] be interested in. um and what um

[33:02] Austin and SlowCal Roots has kind of put

[33:05] together here. Um so the intent is to

[33:09] get some kind of direction on whether or

[33:11] not they should move forward or they

[33:13] shouldn't. Um they're working with um

[33:18] good vibes uh a slowcale management

[33:20] company um like real marketers that do

[33:24] this often um and they want to book real

[33:28] bands um bands that have headlined areas

[33:32] like you know the Monterey Festival um

[33:36] Avala you know different things like

[33:37] that so these these they're in demand so

[33:42] if we want to have something like this,

[33:45] they need to kind of get their marketing

[33:46] going. Um, this has a potential to bring

[33:50] 10, 12, 15,000 people here to the

[33:53] community uh over a weekend. Um, it is a

[33:56] permitted event if it is to go through.

[33:59] Um, potential earnings for the city

[34:03] would be somewhere between $60 and

[34:04] $100,000 uh depending on tickets,

[34:07] parking, u various things like that. Um,

[34:10] I'm sure Austin will touch on it here

[34:12] shortly. Um they are aware that they

[34:15] will have to cover all overhead for any

[34:17] PD, fire, uh anything like that, any

[34:20] overtime hours. Um and security um

[34:24] they've already gone through all this

[34:25] with chief about what the requirements

[34:27] would be. Um and there is some planning

[34:30] going on uh some discussions with Bill

[34:33] um about whether or not it would be

[34:34] allowed, would it not be allowed for our

[34:37] municipal code. Um, our mun municipal

[34:39] code doesn't really hit on it all too

[34:41] much, so it would fall under state state

[34:43] code. State code says it's okay.

[34:45] However, um, there may be other things

[34:47] that kind of get in the way. Um, I think

[34:49] Philip is doing some research on that.

[34:52] Um, but that's all I got. Uh, Austin's

[34:55] going to come up. He's got a little

[34:56] PowerPoint. He's going to give you about

[34:58] 10 minutes and then, uh, people will

[35:01] move on. Let me uh you know normally um

[35:06] what what should happen

[35:09] needs to happen is actually let people

[35:11] know what we're talking about because a

[35:13] lot of people don't have their agenda.

[35:15] So I'm going to read what's what's going

[35:16] on. uh a confirm the city's willingness

[35:20] to move forward with the permitting

[35:21] process for the proposed Guadalupy Green

[35:24] uh Greens Festival at Jack Oonnell Park

[35:26] and B authorize event organizers to

[35:30] begin marketing and advance ticket sales

[35:33] while permit conditions are finalized

[35:36] and C direct staff to continue working

[35:39] with the event organizers to finalize

[35:42] operational requirements, fee

[35:44] structures, public safety measures and

[35:47] regulatory compliance prior to final

[35:50] permit approval and or decline to move

[35:53] forward with the proposed festival. So,

[35:56] I just want to lay that out so people

[35:57] know what we're talking about. So,

[35:58] Austin, it's yours. Thank you, Mayor.

[36:01] Um, council members, my name is Austin

[36:03] Canella. I'm the founder of Route One

[36:05] Presents and the managing member of

[36:07] Route One Dispensary, our local

[36:09] dispensary here in Guadalupe. Um, I'm a

[36:11] Central Coast native and I've been

[36:12] building businesses here for over two

[36:14] decades, working alongside local

[36:16] government and local law enforcement.

[36:18] But tonight, I want to talk about

[36:20] building something bigger, an event that

[36:22] I believe can put Guadalupe on the map

[36:23] in the way that this community deserves.

[36:26] Before I walk you through the

[36:27] presentation, I want to note that we've

[36:29] already completed full draft permit

[36:31] package, including site plans,

[36:32] operations plan, parking plan, security

[36:35] plans, etc. Um, all that's on file with

[36:37] city staff. So, we didn't come here with

[36:39] just a concept. We tried to come here

[36:41] with a plan. Um, go to the next slide.

[36:44] Um, I also want to say that we haven't

[36:46] been working in a vacuum. Um, we've been

[36:48] in close communication with city staff

[36:50] throughout this process and I'm very

[36:51] grateful for the support we received

[36:53] from everyone um that we've worked with

[36:55] so far and from the community response

[36:57] that we've seen so far. I think it's

[36:59] clear that Guadalupe is ready for

[37:00] something like this. Um, so let me

[37:02] introduce the Guadalupe Greens Festival.

[37:04] Um, it's two days September 19th and

[37:06] 20th at Jack Ookono Park up to 10,000

[37:09] people a day. An estimated 150 to 250

[37:13] temporary local jobs at zero net cost to

[37:16] the city. And go to the next slide. Um,

[37:18] going to talk about the venue. One more

[37:20] slide there. Uh, Jack Connell Park is

[37:22] approximately 15 acres of flat open

[37:25] fencable land with existing

[37:27] infrastructure already in place. There's

[37:29] restrooms, ball courts, a covered

[37:30] barbecue pavilion, and it sits naturally

[37:33] set back from most of the dense

[37:35] residential of town. And um because the

[37:38] proposed parking would sit at Highway

[37:40] One and West Main Street Quarter,

[37:41] festival traffic would never touch

[37:43] residential streets. Um I've looked at a

[37:45] lot of sites um for festivals and this

[37:48] one, this one works. The boundaries

[37:49] work, the access works, and the

[37:51] infrastructure works. Um it was it was

[37:53] kind of made for an event like this. um

[37:56] go the next one which is the site plan.

[37:58] Um this is just a working site plan um

[38:00] drawn over the actual park footprint. It

[38:02] kind of gives you a sense of how each

[38:04] zone um would relate. There'd be a main

[38:06] stage area, some food areas, a family

[38:10] area, um a car show on the in the

[38:13] parking lot there. And then there would

[38:15] be a cannabis village in the north

[38:17] corner located on the ball field. Um,

[38:21] what you can see is it's physically

[38:22] separated from the main stage area if

[38:25] the site allows. And that's kind of the

[38:26] closeup on the right there shows that up

[38:28] there on the ball ball field.

[38:30] » Is that the orange?

[38:31] » The orange is actually the the other

[38:33] ball field which would be the uh staff

[38:35] parking.

[38:38] So the green with the kind of green

[38:40] diamond shape, that green diamond shape

[38:41] would be the consumption tent. So it

[38:44] would kind of focus consumption inside

[38:46] of a a tent

[38:49] » Structure. Yeah.

[38:50] » Be a pull a pull tent essentially.

[38:53] » So it have open sides but a covered top.

[38:57] Um and then there's the cannabis vendors

[39:00] located within there. And then the red

[39:03] block in the top left that would be

[39:04] where the cannabis sales took place. Um

[39:07] all by Route One underneath Route One's

[39:10] license. um and a dcc permit which we'll

[39:13] get into here in a second. Um

[39:17] but um this would basically you know

[39:21] this site plan still being refined and

[39:23] we'd continue to work through this

[39:24] throughout the permit process um as

[39:27] public and staff feedback came in as

[39:29] well. Um so this would be an all ages

[39:31] event if you want to go to the next

[39:32] slide. Um we'd have the main stage area.

[39:36] There would be two food zones, um a kids

[39:39] area uh located and fenced in and around

[39:42] the existing play structure, the car

[39:45] zone on the parking lot and a holistic

[39:47] village area on the um basketball court

[39:51] which would be like massage and

[39:53] acupuncture and other type of uh of

[39:56] holistic um vendors. Um, and those would

[39:58] all be open to every generation. Um,

[40:00] except for this cannabis component,

[40:02] which would be the only fully contained

[40:03] zone, um, and completely separate from

[40:06] the rest of the event. The food program

[40:08] would prioritize Guadalupe restaurants

[40:10] and five city businesses. The car show

[40:13] is built around the central coast low

[40:14] rider culture and the event is designed

[40:16] to reflect the community it is in from

[40:18] the food to the music. Um, go to the

[40:21] next slide. Um, on the talent, we are in

[40:24] active negotiations with headlining acts

[40:26] like Revolution, Collie Buds, and

[40:28] Bington Levy. We haven't been able to

[40:30] sign any contracts yet, but I want to be

[40:31] straight with you. Um, we need to have

[40:33] the city's authorization first before we

[40:35] can move forward with any of that. Um,

[40:37] because locking in talent at this level,

[40:39] uh, requires us to make some significant

[40:41] capital investments, and we can't do

[40:43] that without knowing that the city is

[40:45] with us. Um, that said, these aren't

[40:47] cold calls, these are, um, established

[40:49] negotiations. Um and um we're ready to

[40:52] pull the trigger on that. So uh

[40:54] Revolution is one of the nation's

[40:56] largest reggae acts. They uh started in

[40:58] Santa Barbara and they have a deeply

[41:00] loyal touring fan base on the west

[41:02] coast. So their audience travels and

[41:04] that matters for Guadalupe because those

[41:06] visitors would also be spending money

[41:07] here. Um Good Vibes are present presents

[41:10] our production partner has produced the

[41:12] Abila Avala Beach Revolution Show for

[41:14] the last 10 years. Um which we would be

[41:16] relocating here. So there wouldn't be

[41:18] the Revolution Show in Avala this year.

[41:20] It would be here in Guadalupe. Um so

[41:23] it's it's it has a 10-year kind of

[41:24] running start at least of this headliner

[41:26] and this this fan base here on the

[41:28] central coast. Um and other acts like

[41:30] Collie Buzz and Bington Levy would bring

[41:32] international credibility um and strong

[41:35] positive messages um with strong social

[41:37] media reach that would support our

[41:39] marketing efforts as well. Um, so as

[41:41] David mentioned, the names on this

[41:43] lineup would signal to the regional

[41:45] music community that this is a serious

[41:47] production. Um, the full lineup is being

[41:49] built out, but uh, over 20 regional and

[41:52] local acts would would fill both stages.

[41:54] Go to the next slide. Our production

[41:57] partner, Good Vibes Presents, is an

[41:58] experienced national festival company. I

[42:01] already mentioned the Avala shows. Um

[42:03] they've ran those for the last 10 10

[42:05] years and they also do festivals like

[42:06] Holo Holo Fest and Cali Roots which was

[42:09] just this last weekend in Monterey. So

[42:12] they would be replicating that same

[42:14] level of production infrastructure here

[42:16] handling staging logistics vendor

[42:19] operations and day of coordinations. Um

[42:21] they would work directly with our team

[42:24] our harm reduction partners and

[42:25] Guadalupe PD as well. Um so I would be

[42:28] bringing the compliance and the cannabis

[42:30] operations as well as the dream and they

[42:32] would be bringing the production

[42:34] experience but together um we are

[42:36] professional operation with a track

[42:37] record in this exact market. Um next

[42:40] slide.

[42:42] Uh safety and compliance. I know this is

[42:44] important and I want you guys to feel

[42:46] confident that we've uh been working

[42:48] will continue to work with Chief Cash on

[42:50] this but we feel like we have a a strong

[42:52] safety plan. to go to the next slide.

[42:55] Um, the DCC compliant cannabis village

[42:58] would be operated by Route One under our

[43:01] existing Guadalupe operator permit and

[43:03] our state retail license. So, it

[43:05] wouldn't be a new operator um asking for

[43:07] trust as we have already have a working

[43:09] relationship with the city. The village

[43:11] would be fully enclosed with opaque

[43:13] fencing on every side. You would not be

[43:15] able to see into it from the general

[43:17] festival area. There would be a single

[43:19] staffed entry and a single staffed exit

[43:22] where age uh would be strictly enforced

[43:25] 21 and over with governmentissued IDs

[43:27] with no exceptions. Um there will um

[43:31] most likely be a DCC compliance agent

[43:33] from the state on site throughout the

[43:35] event. Um cannabis consumption would be

[43:38] limited to the designated cannabis

[43:40] consumption tent in the area within the

[43:43] perimeter of the cannabis village. Um,

[43:45] so no cannabis product or signage would

[43:47] be visible from any family area or

[43:49] outside of the cannabis area and the

[43:52] village would close 30 minutes before

[43:54] the main stage uh each day. Um, we've

[43:57] begun to apply for the event organizer

[43:59] license with the state and the temporary

[44:01] event license would get filed with the

[44:03] DCC no later than July 21st, 60 days

[44:06] before the event as required. Next

[44:09] slide. Um, we would have uh BSIS

[44:13] licensed security guards. There'd be 29

[44:15] on Saturday, 25 on Sunday. Dedicated

[44:18] offers serves inside the cannabis

[44:20] village at all times. There would be

[44:22] overnight security um with exterior

[44:24] coverage on Saturday and full

[44:26] coordination with uh Chief Cash and the

[44:28] Guadalupe Fire Department and EMS

[44:31] throughout the event. Um for medical and

[44:33] harm reduction, we would be either

[44:35] working with the Guardian team out of

[44:36] Santa Barbara or Jaw Med. Both are

[44:39] professional harm reduction

[44:40] organizations with proven festival

[44:42] records. Whichever partner we finalize

[44:45] bring would bring things like Narcan,

[44:46] fentanyl test strips, drink test kits,

[44:49] wellness checkpoints, a sanctuary space,

[44:51] and an ambulance on site both days. The

[44:54] Guardians track team uh record includes

[44:57] Soultopia and Santa Barbara this year

[44:59] with over 11,000 attendees with zero

[45:02] overdose fatalities.

[45:04] Um, next slide.

[45:07] Um parking. Um this has been a concern

[45:09] and I want to address it head on. Um we

[45:12] are proposing that the uh public parking

[45:15] would be at the highway one and west

[45:16] main street coordinate corridor on um

[45:19] the pasada pasadera devel commercial

[45:22] development lots essentially. Um we've

[45:24] received um initial um verbal um okay

[45:28] from the developer who's going to be

[45:30] working with the land owners to give us

[45:31] full authorization. But that is the

[45:33] natural entry point um into Guadalupe.

[45:36] um where all three main travel corridors

[45:39] converge. So attendees would park at the

[45:41] edge of town and take the free shuttle

[45:43] straight to the park um to try to avoid

[45:46] festival traffic on uh residential

[45:48] streets. Um so combined capacity across

[45:51] those lots is approximately 2,800

[45:53] vehicles after surface preparation and

[45:56] our Saturday peak parking demand using

[45:59] standard transportation methodology

[46:01] comes out to around 2,700 vehicles. So,

[46:04] we have a little bit of a positive

[46:05] surplus on the busiest day. Um, there

[46:07] would be a shuttle fleet on Saturday.

[46:10] Um, would be 10 coaches running in a

[46:12] continuous loop with about 1,750 riders

[46:14] per hour. Um, and we'd also coordinate

[46:17] with Amtrak's Pacific Surfliner stop

[46:19] here in Guadalupe. Um, which would

[46:21] hopefully keep a portion of attendees

[46:23] off the road entirely. Um, but all

[46:25] parking and shuttle costs will be paid

[46:27] for by the event with zero cost to the

[46:29] city. Um, next slide. Um now the

[46:33] financial picture um what what's in it

[46:35] for the city. Go ahead to the next

[46:37] slide. Um we we are proposing some

[46:40] direct revenue to the city. Um we're

[46:42] projecting approx uh somewhere around 60

[46:44] to $73,000.

[46:46] That would come from a $4 per ticket per

[46:50] day contribution. So $2 per ticket per

[46:53] day would go to a park improvement fund

[46:56] and $2 per ticket per day would go to

[46:59] the city's general fund. Um, in addition

[47:01] to that, there would be additional

[47:03] alcohol sales tax. Um, the 4% cannabis

[47:07] uh contribution from our existing

[47:08] cannabis um business agreement with the

[47:11] city um on top of food, merch, sales tax

[47:15] um and other permit fees. Um, but every

[47:17] city operational cost from police, fire,

[47:20] staff time um would be build um at cost

[47:23] directly to us. The city wouldn't absorb

[47:25] a dollar of that. So there would be a

[47:28] net financial gain to the city of

[47:29] approximately 70 to $90,000 um when you

[47:33] factor in um the community benefit that

[47:36] we're also proposing which would be 50%

[47:39] of the food vendor fees would be um go

[47:42] to Guadalupe nonprofits um by our

[47:44] estimates that's probably 20 to $25,000

[47:48] um which would go to local organizations

[47:50] um and we're inviting the city to

[47:52] participate in choosing which ones

[47:54] receive it. Um

[47:57] go ahead the next slide

[48:00] would be um those are the the direct

[48:03] numbers. The indirect uh

[48:08] impact would be is a little bit harder

[48:11] uh to nail down but it matters for guy's

[48:14] long-term story. Okay. So, if you want

[48:15] to go one more slide, one more. Um,

[48:19] we're looking at roughly 11 to 14,000

[48:23] total attendees over the weekend. That's

[48:25] a meaningful meaningful share of those

[48:27] people are coming in from outside of the

[48:28] immediate area. They will stop for gas.

[48:31] They will eat before and after the show.

[48:33] They will stay in Santa Maria or the

[48:34] five cities areas. Although there are no

[48:36] hotels in Guadalupe, but there are

[48:38] spending that will happen here and the

[48:40] surrounding area that would not happen

[48:42] otherwise. Research on comparable

[48:44] festivals puts the regional economic

[48:46] multiplier at roughly $3 to5 dollars for

[48:48] every dollar of ticket revenue applied

[48:51] here. That's somewhere in the range of

[48:52] 500,000 to well over a million dollars

[48:54] flowing into the region. Those are

[48:56] estimates, not guarantees, but they are

[48:58] based on real benchmarks. But the bigger

[49:01] long-term play is what this does for

[49:03] Guadalupee's identity. A strong year one

[49:06] puts the city on the Central Coast

[49:07] Festival map. The reputation will

[49:10] compound, the event will grow, and every

[49:12] year it comes back, it will bring more

[49:14] visibility and more regional spend with

[49:16] it. Uh, next slide.

[49:20] Uh, four things that protect the city

[49:22] completely. One is all operational costs

[49:24] are build to us. Two, our existing

[49:27] cannabis business um agreement already

[49:29] governs the cannabis contribution, 4% to

[49:32] the city and 1% to nonprofits. Um,

[49:35] three, full uh full event insurance

[49:38] naming Guadalupe as additionally insured

[49:40] with a minimum $5 million per

[49:42] occurrence. And four, the finance

[49:44] director would have full audit rights on

[49:46] ticketing records and we would deliver a

[49:49] reconciliation report within 30 days of

[49:51] the event. Essentially, we're asking to

[49:53] be your partner and asking you, you

[49:55] know, not asking you to take a risk. Um,

[49:58] slide 20. So, what we're asking tonight,

[50:01] um, and I know it's not necessarily full

[50:03] permit approval, um, and that we're not

[50:05] there yet, but we want to respect the

[50:07] process, however that plays out, but

[50:09] tonight we would like, um, to confirm

[50:11] that the city is willing to move forward

[50:12] with the permitting process. Um, and

[50:15] that would be a green light to us to

[50:16] begin to form formalize everything with

[50:18] the with the talent and um, everyone

[50:21] else. Um so two alo authorize us to

[50:25] begin marketing and advanced ticket

[50:27] sales while we finalize permit

[50:28] conditions with staff. Um this is

[50:31] timesensitive talent negotiations,

[50:33] vendor commitments, marketing timelines.

[50:36] Um we need to be able to make the the

[50:39] capital investment to lock all this in

[50:41] and that can't really happen without

[50:43] your guys' approval tonight. Um, so

[50:47] three, I'd also like to schedule up

[50:49] follow-up working sessions with

[50:50] planning, police, fire, and

[50:52] administration to finalize everything,

[50:54] every fee, every operational detail

[50:57] before any permit is issue. We're not

[50:59] going to disappear after night. We'd

[51:01] also like to bring this back before

[51:02] council once a month um from here on out

[51:05] and then maybe meeting um twice a month

[51:08] for the two months leading up to the

[51:09] event just to give the council updates

[51:11] and adapt to public input. Um, so you'll

[51:14] always know where the festival stands

[51:15] and what we're working on. Um, but if

[51:17] you can give us the green light to

[51:18] begin, everything else would work get

[51:20] worked out collaboratively with staff

[51:21] um, and you as a council as it

[51:23] progresses. Go to the last slide. Um,

[51:26] but Guadalupe is a city with a lot of

[51:28] character and not enough events to show

[51:31] it off. This festival is built to change

[51:33] that. It's locally owned. It's locally

[51:36] rooted with real protection for the

[51:38] community and real money staying here.

[51:40] We have the team, the plan, and the

[51:42] commitment. We just need the

[51:44] partnership. So, thank you. And I'm

[51:46] happy to answer any questions.

[51:49] » Thank you. Pretty detailed. Um, we'll

[51:52] open up the council.

[51:55] Jean, anybody

[51:58] » Go ahead.

[52:00] Um Austin, I really would like to have

[52:02] had this information prior to uh tonight

[52:05] to make a decision to say go forward or

[52:07] not go forward, but um absent all of

[52:10] that and listening to your quick

[52:12] presentation today. Um

[52:17] I like what you you I like the idea of

[52:20] having um a festival

[52:23] um and having the potential of having

[52:26] outside people come into our community.

[52:29] um and all of that, the the wellness

[52:31] factor and uh etc., etc. And this is

[52:34] going to be weird saying this because of

[52:36] who you are and the fact you have Route

[52:38] One here. Uh I like all of it absent

[52:42] cannabis. Um

[52:45] I I think the city does need a festival

[52:48] and uh again, you've laid out uh with

[52:53] the band. I think that's really great.

[52:55] Uh other cities have festivals that we

[52:58] go to. We leave the city to go there. Um

[53:01] so it would be nice to have u people

[53:03] come here. I like the idea of uh

[53:08] Pasadera and the shuttle and all of

[53:10] that. And you you've clearly put a lot

[53:12] of thought into this. Can I ask when you

[53:15] first started talking about this with

[53:17] the city?

[53:18] » Um I I had initial conversations maybe

[53:22] four to six months ago with the city. um

[53:24] that this was something that could

[53:26] possibly, you know, be wanted and and be

[53:29] needed here. And um I began to have

[53:32] conversations with uh people in my

[53:34] network and um I'd say about three

[53:36] months ago as when good vibes kind of

[53:38] circled back to me and said, you know,

[53:40] this would this would be a good thing

[53:42] and we'd like to move our Avala show

[53:44] down there and work with you.

[53:45] » Okay. Um but it's it's come about

[53:47] quickly. Uh um

[53:49] » Where where I have some mixed feelings

[53:52] is um

[53:55] Christina was talk council member

[53:57] Hernandez sorry was talking about

[53:59] recreation and doing things for the kids

[54:01] and the mayor has quoted numerous times

[54:05] is it 30 or 35% of our residents are 18

[54:08] and under thereabouts. So that's a a

[54:10] decent chunk of of uh our population

[54:13] here. um

[54:16] having a festival with even the

[54:19] controlled cannabis tent and whatever

[54:22] you call that. Um

[54:25] that that still doesn't bring me to the

[54:27] point of saying yeah let's go ahead. Um,

[54:31] so I'm I if I was to if we were to vote

[54:34] on this today, and I I'm assuming we

[54:35] are, I would have to say no just because

[54:38] that little bit. Um, again, which is

[54:41] ironic because of you're having a

[54:44] cannabis retail store here.

[54:47] » So, Christina, any comments?

[54:50] » Thank you, Austin, for sharing this. I

[54:51] also would would like to have had this

[54:53] um form um beforehand. Um I think my

[54:57] only issue is just that we have a policy

[54:59] of no smoking here that was adopted

[55:00] recently. Um but I did have a question.

[55:03] Are your um application event um are you

[55:06] getting that from the department of

[55:07] cannabis control?

[55:08] » Yeah. So the department of cannabis

[55:10] control um actually allows events of

[55:12] this type. Um we would we would have a

[55:14] event organizer license which is a

[55:16] separate license from the retailer

[55:17] license. Um but it also needs to work in

[55:20] conjunction with a retailer license. So

[55:22] only licensed retailers are allowed to

[55:24] do sales at the licensed event and only

[55:27] a licensed event organizer is allowed to

[55:29] hold the event. So route one would be

[55:31] both the licensed event organizer and

[55:33] the retailer. And then the event itself

[55:36] would need to be permitted through the

[55:38] DCC. So the site plans, the layout, the

[55:40] days, the dates, um the times,

[55:43] everything goes through um a strict

[55:45] approval process with the the DC as

[55:48] well. Um and they do have a lot of uh

[55:50] protections in place for the public as

[55:52] far as you know no visibility um

[55:55] distance separation, ID checks, security

[55:58] requirements, um etc. And um while there

[56:01] hasn't been too many of these events

[56:03] California, they are becoming um more

[56:05] common. Um just this last year um the

[56:08] state fairgrounds um in Sacramento at

[56:10] the California State Fair um had a

[56:13] cannabis village and had a cannabis

[56:14] consumption and cannabis sales area at

[56:17] the state fair just like we you know

[56:19] hold here in Paso. Um, so I think

[56:22] there's some models and there's some

[56:24] examples of these events working um with

[56:28] at all ages events where you have

[56:30] families and you have, you know, the

[56:31] general public, but you have a

[56:33] controlled, regulated, and safe cannabis

[56:36] area as well. Um, it's also been done in

[56:38] Golden Gate Park, um, at music festivals

[56:41] there that are all ages. Um, some in LA

[56:44] and some in Santa Rosa as well. I did

[56:47] look up I did do a research and I did

[56:49] look up the county fair and um I think

[56:52] the only concern with me is just because

[56:54] this is such a close proximity to the

[56:57] park. I understand that you have

[56:58] barriers but we are known for our dunes

[57:00] because of that that gnarly wind. Um

[57:03] while I was looking at the application,

[57:05] can you help me better understand um

[57:07] some of their permitting? Um, I looked

[57:10] up the uh application on the website and

[57:13] it says that there is no sales of

[57:15] alcohol or tobacco strictly prohibited

[57:18] at a temporary cannabis event.

[57:20] » Correct. So the premise diagram for the

[57:23] cannabis and the alcohol. So you can you

[57:25] can have you can't have alcohol sales

[57:28] within the cannabis premises basically.

[57:31] So there would be no alcohol allowed on

[57:33] the ball field. So there would be

[57:35] alcohol checks at the gate that the

[57:38] entry points as well. So no alcohol

[57:40] sales, no alcohol consumption, no

[57:42] tobacco sales or tobacco consumption um

[57:45] either inside the cannabis zone.

[57:48] » Got it. So it's it's

[57:49] » It's a separate premises. So basically

[57:52] it's a an event within an within the

[57:54] other event and inside that other event

[57:57] that there is no alcohol allowed.

[57:59] » Okay. Thank you for clarifying. Uh-huh.

[58:02] » Jean, any comments?

[58:06] Um,

[58:09] like my fellow council members said,

[58:14] this would have been good to have for

[58:17] our residents to kind of see more or

[58:20] less what you had planned out. Um,

[58:26] I understand where my fellow council

[58:30] members are coming from, but at the same

[58:31] time,

[58:34] I look at it as an opportunity

[58:38] for our city to have something where

[58:40] people will come join enjoy the festival

[58:44] and whatnot, but also being able to

[58:47] spend money with some of our merchants

[58:51] restaurants here in down. Um

[58:55] it looks like you've done a lot of

[58:59] schooling on this to get it. You've

[59:00] talked with our city workers. You've

[59:04] talked with chief, you know, ironing out

[59:07] details and all. um

[59:10] not knowing how one of these ever goes,

[59:13] but to see how you have a section

[59:17] dedicated strictly to the cannabis sales

[59:20] and stuff away from everything else

[59:23] bringing in um

[59:25] I would be okay with going forward with

[59:27] this just because I see this as an

[59:31] opportunity, but I also understand where

[59:33] residents

[59:34] and my fellow members come from looking

[59:37] at it from the other perspective.

[59:39] But a lot of times we do is we look at

[59:41] only the negative impact on what

[59:45] something has and not looking at what

[59:48] positive can come from it. And I can see

[59:51] this as being a positive for our city

[59:54] with something like this to bring in

[59:56] maybe some other festivals that aren't

[59:59] to deal with cannabis, but to open the

[1:00:01] door for those venues to look at how it

[1:00:04] went, a blueprint of what can be for us

[1:00:08] here. So,

[1:00:11] I like how everything was planned out,

[1:00:13] but I just wish we would have got this

[1:00:16] piece sooner so our residents who saw

[1:00:20] this on there could have looked more

[1:00:21] into it to kind of understand, but yeah,

[1:00:24] » Understandable.

[1:00:26] Okay, if I don't sure, go ahead. And

[1:00:28] just to what you said, uh, Jean,

[1:00:32] um,

[1:00:34] back to Yeah, I agree that we have a

[1:00:38] deficit. Revenue is revenue. I

[1:00:40] understand that. Um,

[1:00:44] I just lost my train of thought. Hang

[1:00:45] on. Give me a minute.

[1:00:48] Don't make a comment about why. Um,

[1:00:51] oh jeez.

[1:00:54] Oh, you were uh Jean was talking about

[1:00:56] um having our we always look at we may

[1:01:00] look at the negatives and uh we should

[1:01:02] look at some of the positives and so

[1:01:04] forth. I I would think that uh the city

[1:01:07] has not have had a festival um to my

[1:01:09] understanding. I don't think city has

[1:01:11] ever

[1:01:12] » Harvest festival.

[1:01:13] » Oh, I wasn't here then

[1:01:14] » With fruit. No, you

[1:01:16] » Vegetables.

[1:01:17] » Oh,

[1:01:17] » Okay. Uh but in terms of an overall

[1:01:20] festival with bands and and you know all

[1:01:22] that type of thing, I I think the first

[1:01:25] one that we should have should be absent

[1:01:28] the cannabis for the um community to um

[1:01:34] uh just have their first taste at at

[1:01:36] that. I know Tina talking about the the

[1:01:39] I I was here the vegetable. Yes.

[1:01:41] » Yeah. Um

[1:01:41] » Right.

[1:01:42] » Yeah, I was there. Were they they bowled

[1:01:45] with cabbage? Okay. Yeah, I was

[1:01:46] » Said salad bowl. That's

[1:01:48] » Saladable. Thank you.

[1:01:50] » How we went. Yeah.

[1:01:51] » Okay. Um, so I I agree with what you're

[1:01:54] saying that uh I don't whether we say

[1:01:58] anything that brings in revenue should

[1:01:59] be good to the city. Um, there should be

[1:02:02] some qualifying u statements with that.

[1:02:06] Um, a festival, yes. I I will repeat a

[1:02:09] festival, yes. Um, even if we had a

[1:02:13] regular festival, we still will get

[1:02:15] negative comments from residents,

[1:02:16] whatever. The noise is too loud and and

[1:02:18] all things like that. I think this is

[1:02:21] has a bit too much um,

[1:02:25] lack of a better word, negativity around

[1:02:27] it that residents will look at again

[1:02:29] strictly because of the cannabis. My my

[1:02:32] opinion only.

[1:02:33] » I think previously we did have a a small

[1:02:36] mini festival for Fourth of July. We had

[1:02:38] a concert at McKenzie and I believe like

[1:02:40] Dominator came. I was young so I thought

[1:02:42] that was a big concert.

[1:02:45] » Um but I do have a question for Mr.

[1:02:47] Sinko. Um is this something that the

[1:02:50] city should uh consider for future

[1:02:52] establishing like a staffing uh permit

[1:02:55] or a special event permit? I know that

[1:02:58] uh chief has spent some time already on

[1:03:00] this, but I don't see that on the fiscal

[1:03:02] impact and wondering if we should have

[1:03:04] like a standard for future largescale

[1:03:06] events if if that's what we're that's

[1:03:08] what council is hoping to have here

[1:03:09] more.

[1:03:10] » Um excuse me, council member Hernandez.

[1:03:14] Yes, I've spoken with our director of

[1:03:17] planning uh or yeah, director of

[1:03:19] planning, Larry Apple, on this topic

[1:03:21] before. Uh there's been a couple of

[1:03:24] times we've had need of a special events

[1:03:26] permit and we've just, you know, done

[1:03:29] this process by coming to the council

[1:03:30] directly. Um

[1:03:33] and I've spoken with Bill Scott about

[1:03:35] the wisdom of that. He agrees and it is

[1:03:37] something that I'm pretty sure they're

[1:03:39] going to move forward on u as a separate

[1:03:42] ordinance, a standalone special events

[1:03:44] ordinance. Uh Santa Maria has one and

[1:03:48] Mr. Appo was aware of that. It it came

[1:03:50] in handy. they had circuses would come

[1:03:52] into town and we would use the special

[1:03:54] events permit uh process, a temporary

[1:03:56] use permit. So yes, there's wisdom in

[1:03:58] that and I and staff is aware that

[1:04:00] there's a need for it.

[1:04:01] » Okay, perfect. And I know that we

[1:04:03] previously adopted a no smoking policy.

[1:04:06] How does that work hand inand with this

[1:04:08] event?

[1:04:08] » Um I was looking at that um while the

[1:04:11] rest of the meeting was going on earlier

[1:04:12] because I I had a feeling that would

[1:04:14] come up. Um the park policy

[1:04:19] I I looked at it and it does say that

[1:04:21] there's no smoking tobacco, marijuana,

[1:04:24] you know that in a public park, but um

[1:04:27] it also says there's no alcohol allowed

[1:04:29] in parks um or in certain public places

[1:04:34] except permits can be granted to

[1:04:35] override that. So I imagine if the

[1:04:38] council wanted to interpret its

[1:04:40] ordinance in a way that uh consumption

[1:04:44] uh smoking of marijuana in a canop's

[1:04:46] village was something that could be

[1:04:48] legally done with a special events

[1:04:50] permit and if we had a special events

[1:04:53] ordinance that would answer that

[1:04:55] question. Um, I think that the council

[1:04:58] could move could pro could proceed

[1:04:59] legally on that because I think that the

[1:05:02] law the spirit of that law is to prevent

[1:05:03] individuals from occupying the park

[1:05:07] that's open to everybody and smoking

[1:05:10] cigarettes or marijuana. It's not really

[1:05:11] intended to apply to a special special

[1:05:14] events permit with a festival and

[1:05:17] permitting in a separate cannabis area.

[1:05:19] So, I think there's wiggle room for the

[1:05:21] can for the council to uh to act if it

[1:05:23] wishes, but it's a little bit of a gray

[1:05:25] area right now.

[1:05:26] » Okay. Thank you. Um I know that there is

[1:05:30] like a 2% um financial help or parks,

[1:05:35] but does that mean um because I'm

[1:05:36] looking at parking and it's kind of in

[1:05:38] that dirt law and I'm like, "Oh no, I've

[1:05:40] seen people get stuck in the baseball

[1:05:41] fields. That does heavy damage to our

[1:05:44] parks." Um and I want to avoid any

[1:05:46] damage. Um, do do you guys have

[1:05:49] » Uh So it's not 2%, it's $2 per ticket.

[1:05:51] » Okay.

[1:05:52] » Um, so it could be drastically more than

[1:05:55] 2%. Um,

[1:05:57] » But that's not to cover cost damage.

[1:05:59] That's to support other parks. Is that

[1:06:00] correct?

[1:06:01] » No, that would be for essentially to

[1:06:04] return the park to the condition it was

[1:06:07] in before the event.

[1:06:09] » Okay.

[1:06:10] No, we would return the park to the

[1:06:12] condition before it was before the event

[1:06:14] on at our cost and that $2 would go to

[1:06:17] future park improvements was our goal.

[1:06:19] » Even better.

[1:06:21] » We want to try to we want to try to make

[1:06:23] the park better each year with this

[1:06:24] event. Um, and the parking that's

[1:06:26] proposed for staff parking is right now

[1:06:28] is the unused B baseball diamond and

[1:06:30] it's it's pretty overgrown and ungraded

[1:06:33] and so there would be some actual site

[1:06:35] improvement to even get it ready for

[1:06:37] parking. Um, so this first year it would

[1:06:40] probably be left closer to a usable

[1:06:43] state than it is currently right now in

[1:06:45] the overgrown kind of ungraded

[1:06:48] » And and that's kind of the same thing

[1:06:49] along um I think that's what they told

[1:06:52] you at Pasadera as well, right? They

[1:06:55] even have

[1:06:55] » Yeah, we Yeah, we would do pregrading

[1:06:57] and site prep there as well to make sure

[1:06:59] that you know

[1:07:01] um and you know first year I think that

[1:07:03] money could go into the the big green

[1:07:05] field maybe and and the gopher issues

[1:07:07] and there's there's plenty of needs

[1:07:10] there. Um, so that we see this as an

[1:07:12] opportunity and um, I do understand the

[1:07:16] the concerns over cannabis and um, maybe

[1:07:19] we could separate the music and the

[1:07:20] cannabis now and leave that for future

[1:07:22] discussion um, and public input um, as

[1:07:25] as we get closer.

[1:07:29] There's uh thank you council for

[1:07:31] comments and and discussions and I and I

[1:07:35] I've talked to Austin about this before

[1:07:37] that there was something coming uh

[1:07:38] forward

[1:07:40] uh and it did come forward and it's

[1:07:42] huge. Uh I just wanted one one item I

[1:07:46] wanted to make sure that we had there's

[1:07:47] two public comments

[1:07:50] uh opposing this and one is from uh I'm

[1:07:54] not even going to name the name but

[1:07:55] anyway they're talking about reputation

[1:07:57] talking about public safety talking

[1:07:59] about police toxic talking about

[1:08:01] intoxicated driving normalizing

[1:08:04] uh cannabis

[1:08:06] um our youth. The other one that with

[1:08:09] one was from uh tobacco prevention and

[1:08:12] cannabis education which we've been

[1:08:15] trying to to push in terms of for for

[1:08:17] the kids and stuff. This kind of sends

[1:08:19] an opposite an opposite message that

[1:08:21] it's okay to go ahead and and have an

[1:08:23] event in a community like Guadalupe uh

[1:08:27] when they're when we're we've been

[1:08:29] pushing and so as a schools uh you know

[1:08:31] uh tobacco prevention and cannabis

[1:08:34] education.

[1:08:36] Um several things. one is uh when is the

[1:08:39] 16th of September? When is that going to

[1:08:41] happen? Is that going to be the 15th,

[1:08:43] the 14th or the week before? Um

[1:08:48] okay. The you know, one of the things

[1:08:54] looking at our community is 86% Latino.

[1:09:00] 90% of the people that are going to be

[1:09:02] coming in aren't Latino, which is fine.

[1:09:03] I don't care what nationality they are.

[1:09:05] But when you have 60 6,500 people um

[1:09:11] coming at a you know you mentioned 11 11

[1:09:14] to 14,000 people in that two-day two-day

[1:09:17] event. Our population is 8,700. So

[1:09:20] basically there's more people coming

[1:09:23] into this than there is population.

[1:09:26] Your map shows Kaya Caesar Chavez which

[1:09:29] is may may be l

[1:09:31] renamed in the future. That's all

[1:09:34] residential area and every sound

[1:09:37] that comes from this event here is going

[1:09:39] to go through all of Guadalupe.

[1:09:42] It's gonna it's um you you can play uh

[1:09:46] and chief knows about this. You you play

[1:09:48] music down at Point Cell Dunes.

[1:09:49] Everybody's going to hear it all the way

[1:09:50] to Treasure Park. My concern is the

[1:09:54] impact that it has on a residents

[1:09:57] in that area and in the perception of

[1:10:01] using cannabis as a as a draw to a

[1:10:05] community like VIP. I I I don't have any

[1:10:07] problems in in those who consume

[1:10:09] cannabis. Uh that that's that's not a

[1:10:12] problem. It's legal. Uh but I I think

[1:10:15] this event is too huge for for

[1:10:17] Guadalupe.

[1:10:19] Uh, one is that, um, and I'm I spent a

[1:10:23] lot of time at that park and looking at

[1:10:25] the right where you have that that tent

[1:10:27] there's that'd be nice to have you there

[1:10:29] because you'd kill the gophers because

[1:10:30] there's a lot of gophers there.

[1:10:32] » But the park is a park for a community.

[1:10:36] We had several weeks ago, several months

[1:10:39] ago, we had an event just at the b that

[1:10:42] little purple area on your map, that

[1:10:45] basketball court, just basketball there.

[1:10:48] there was no parking and I know you have

[1:10:50] plans for parking elsewhere. Um

[1:10:54] the you know we talk about there's going

[1:10:57] to be a lot of staffing, police

[1:10:58] protection, stuff like that at this

[1:11:01] point in in our time in terms of and

[1:11:04] we're going to talk about the the budget

[1:11:06] soon is I don't think we can handle it

[1:11:08] even though there's going to be money

[1:11:10] for that. It's just too it's too much

[1:11:13] too soon uh for a community like

[1:11:16] Guadalupe and it sends a message that

[1:11:18] says okay it's to me uh and I think I'll

[1:11:22] echo what Amelia says

[1:11:25] oh it's okay to use cannabis when we're

[1:11:26] trying to get the kids uh the youngsters

[1:11:31] those that are underage not to use it

[1:11:33] and they do use it I have a I'm not

[1:11:36] going to say who uh I won't even go

[1:11:39] there but there's there's

[1:11:41] too much youth consumption of tobacco

[1:11:44] illegally. It's not your fault. It's not

[1:11:47] it's not the community in general's

[1:11:49] fault. It's some of the maybe the

[1:11:50] parents or the kids. But I think first

[1:11:53] of all, it's too big for Guadalupe.

[1:11:55] That's that's my opinion. It's too soon

[1:11:58] to actually say, "Okay, go ahead and go

[1:12:00] ahead and plan this out because you put

[1:12:01] a lot of detail into this. You have a

[1:12:03] lot of folks that are ready to basically

[1:12:06] sign on uh perhaps. But I think that if

[1:12:09] if we say let's go with it and then

[1:12:12] regret it, it's going to hurt it's going

[1:12:14] to hurt our community. Uh it's going to

[1:12:16] hurt our community in terms of you know,

[1:12:19] we're a farmworker community and and you

[1:12:20] know that um just what is that going to

[1:12:23] what does that say to a community um

[1:12:27] that we allow this and and again it's

[1:12:31] just too big. I think if it was smaller

[1:12:33] and is more more confined to a certain

[1:12:35] area that didn't take up all the room,

[1:12:38] you're going to have all the traffic

[1:12:40] that you're going to have between Pasad

[1:12:43] and and in Guadalupe on a Saturday and a

[1:12:46] Sunday, I'm assuming it's a Saturday and

[1:12:48] Sunday, um it's going to be even though

[1:12:52] they're there there's going to be

[1:12:54] transit for them, it's still going to be

[1:12:56] uh people have to get there and and uh

[1:12:59] and and leave and that's going to be

[1:13:00] it's going and it hit Highway 1 and 166

[1:13:03] pretty heavily. I think just bottom line

[1:13:06] I think it's it's it says to the

[1:13:09] community we're we're okay to have and I

[1:13:12] think I echo in what what Mr. Figos is

[1:13:14] saying is that it's okay if we say yes

[1:13:17] to cannabis then that drives to the kids

[1:13:21] while the adults are doing it then why

[1:13:23] not why why shouldn't we be able to do

[1:13:25] it although they know it's illegal but

[1:13:28] at this point I would say I would

[1:13:30] decline that I know that uh I I am

[1:13:34] supportive of what you what you're doing

[1:13:36] there in in your in the businesses you

[1:13:38] got and I think it's helpful for the

[1:13:40] community but it's just too it's just

[1:13:43] too big for for us at this point. Maybe

[1:13:46] in the future when we can work out some

[1:13:48] of the details than if it were smaller

[1:13:49] and I know you have some big ticket

[1:13:52] players that are coming to that that's

[1:13:53] going to draw those those individuals

[1:13:56] and in order to make it make a go of it

[1:13:58] you have to have those people. So

[1:14:00] there's that catch 22. You can have the

[1:14:03] group, but it then it impacts community

[1:14:04] and uh more than physically, but in

[1:14:07] terms of where we stand with with with

[1:14:10] cannabis again, it's legal uh but it

[1:14:14] says it sends a different message. So my

[1:14:17] my opinion is is not to uh to decline to

[1:14:21] move forward uh because it's going to if

[1:14:23] we say go and then we we end up u

[1:14:26] perhaps changing our mind but we're not

[1:14:28] going to change our mind if we say go uh

[1:14:30] because then we're going to work on the

[1:14:32] details but I think we look we're

[1:14:34] looking at finances uh uh for next year

[1:14:38] 26 27 and I think that we need to be

[1:14:41] cautious in terms of what we what we say

[1:14:44] to you that would perhaps impact us on a

[1:14:47] financial side even though there's

[1:14:49] numbers here to say it's not going to

[1:14:51] it's going to be positive for us. So

[1:14:54] please

[1:14:56] » Um one of the reasons I asked the

[1:14:58] question how early on did you bring this

[1:15:00] to the city's attention is because you

[1:15:02] have put an awful lot of work into this

[1:15:05] already and it it sort of seems as

[1:15:07] though you're just waiting for the yes

[1:15:09] and you sign and it's a go. Um and my

[1:15:13] comment is for future uh events,

[1:15:16] festivals, whatever, I I think it's um

[1:15:21] critical to have the council brought

[1:15:23] into it, even if it's a very rough rough

[1:15:26] idea um prior to the event coordinator

[1:15:32] putting a lot of work into it, then

[1:15:34] bringing it to the council. And all this

[1:15:36] work has been been um already dealt

[1:15:39] with. players have already been talked

[1:15:41] to, etc. And then it's up to the council

[1:15:44] to say yay or nay. So, um it's a shame

[1:15:47] that this was not brought uh early on in

[1:15:50] the game.

[1:15:53] » Jean, anything you good, Christina?

[1:15:57] » Um nothing else to add? No public

[1:15:59] comment. Want to make sure anything

[1:16:00] Well,

[1:16:01] » Here was the public comment, but Okay.

[1:16:02] Just making sure I seen somebody in the

[1:16:04] » Yeah, it's and it's also part of the

[1:16:06] record, so Okay. Um,

[1:16:10] if we is there, you can correct me if

[1:16:13] I'm wrong, Phil. If there's a motion to

[1:16:14] adopt A, B, and C,

[1:16:19] we could look at that. It's in terms of

[1:16:21] moving forward with it.

[1:16:24] And if the motion if there was somebody

[1:16:26] that made that motion to to move forward

[1:16:28] with that, the AB and C would basically

[1:16:31] direct staff to continue working. And if

[1:16:33] there's a motion to that effect, then we

[1:16:35] can take we can take action or D

[1:16:39] um which is declined to move forward

[1:16:41] with the proposed festival.

[1:16:44] Correct. Okay. It's either A, B, C, or

[1:16:47] D. Okay.

[1:16:50] Is there a motion to approve A, B, and

[1:16:53] C?

[1:16:58] A

[1:16:58] » Motion to approve A, B, or C?

[1:17:00] » Is there a second?

[1:17:09] I think the motion dies for lack of a

[1:17:11] second. Is there a motion to approve uh

[1:17:13] item D?

[1:17:16] » I'll make a motion to approve item D to

[1:17:18] decline to move forward with the

[1:17:19] proposed festival.

[1:17:21] » Is there a second?

[1:17:24] » I'll second.

[1:17:25] » There's a second. Um any discussion?

[1:17:31] Oh, a roll call, please.

[1:17:33] » Council member Costa Jr.

[1:17:35] » No.

[1:17:36] » Council member Hernz is absent. Council

[1:17:40] member Viegas.

[1:17:42] » I.

[1:17:44] » Council member Hernandez.

[1:17:45] » Hi.

[1:17:46] » And Mayor Julian.

[1:17:47] » Hi.

[1:17:48] » The motion passes to decline to move

[1:17:50] forward with the proposed festival.

[1:17:54] » Appreciate your time.

[1:17:56] » Thank you.

[1:17:57] » No worries. And I know you had you had

[1:17:59] you had a a schedule to deal with in

[1:18:01] terms of booking his agent. So I

[1:18:03] appreciate that. So thank you for your

[1:18:04] feedback. Thank you.

[1:18:05] » Thank you staff for working on this

[1:18:07] also.

[1:18:09] Okay, we'll go to uh uh is there a need

[1:18:13] for a biological break? Anybody?

[1:18:17] What? Two minute break. Okay. Okay. Five

[1:18:22] minute break.

[1:18:44] Thank you.

[1:18:48] Attend City

[1:18:52] 2026 27 workshop. Mr. Martinez, you're

[1:18:56] on.

[1:18:56] » Yes, sir. Uh good evening, Mr. Mayor, uh

[1:19:00] council members, staff, members of the

[1:19:02] public. Um, as you know, this is the

[1:19:05] preliminary budget um, discussion.

[1:19:09] Uh, just a couple things I want to say

[1:19:11] just off the bat. One, this is based on

[1:19:14] on audited and preliminary information.

[1:19:17] As you know, we're working on uh the

[1:19:20] audits right now and we're we're

[1:19:23] currently on 2022 2023 and closing those

[1:19:26] books.

[1:19:27] Um, we're also just as um a highle

[1:19:32] directional note, we're looking for

[1:19:34] direction on how to close the deficit

[1:19:37] because we are in a budget deficit um at

[1:19:41] this point in time. Uh the focus of

[1:19:43] today's discussion is really just the

[1:19:45] general fund and the and uh not the

[1:19:48] enterprise fund. So just the general

[1:19:49] fund. So, I'm going to jump right in and

[1:19:52] and maybe the best format for this is uh

[1:19:56] maybe stop me for questions or hold

[1:19:58] questions to the end, but there is a lot

[1:20:00] of information that went to you. Um and

[1:20:04] and if it helps um for anybody who is

[1:20:08] watching and has the information, maybe

[1:20:09] just I'll I'll give you a brief overview

[1:20:11] of how to read the report. Um and and

[1:20:14] then maybe I'll jump into it. How about

[1:20:16] that? Um, so if you can just jump to the

[1:20:20] the budget worksheet condensed, that's

[1:20:23] what it's titled. It should be uh you if

[1:20:27] this was numbered correctly would be

[1:20:28] page seven.

[1:20:31] And you can see you can see u report

[1:20:35] sort of a tabular format here. Uh on the

[1:20:38] left hand side you have the the name of

[1:20:40] the fund. This is for fund 001 the

[1:20:43] general fund. Um, we're going to start

[1:20:45] off with the revenues.

[1:20:47] Um, we're going to start off like

[1:20:49] reading from left to right. You have the

[1:20:51] fund numbers, you have the what what

[1:20:53] fund it is in relation to. Um, and then

[1:20:56] it goes, you know, in every column is

[1:20:59] talking about um a different year, a

[1:21:01] different fiscal year. So, 2023, 2024

[1:21:04] and the total activity that happened in

[1:21:06] that year for for those funds.

[1:21:09] um you know following that to the right

[1:21:12] 2425 total activity. Uh 2526 is the next

[1:21:16] column. Um and then you have 2526

[1:21:20] year-toate activity. So the the the

[1:21:23] column to the left of that is the budget

[1:21:25] uh what we budgeted in 2526 and what

[1:21:27] we've actually expended um year-toate

[1:21:31] 2526.

[1:21:32] Um and then what you have on the

[1:21:35] furthest right hand column is what we're

[1:21:38] proposing uh or at least the preliminary

[1:21:41] budget for 2627.

[1:21:44] And you can kind of see from looking at

[1:21:46] what the budget was in 2526. That's uh

[1:21:51] column number three right in the middle.

[1:21:53] And you compare it to column the last

[1:21:56] column, it'll tell you what how that's

[1:21:58] changing. So you can kind of see how

[1:21:59] that's changing. So that's just a brief

[1:22:02] overview for those anybody who's

[1:22:04] watching that might not know how to read

[1:22:06] the report. But just again just diving

[1:22:09] right into this the highle overview. Um

[1:22:13] we're bringing in $6 million in total

[1:22:15] revenues. That's uh taxes for the city

[1:22:19] um

[1:22:20] uh from all places that the city can tax

[1:22:23] on. That includes fines. That includes

[1:22:27] uh property taxes. any any revenue that

[1:22:30] the city brings in is uh adding up to a

[1:22:33] total of $6 million. Um to contrast

[1:22:36] that, uh the city's uh looking at

[1:22:40] spending $8.9 million.

[1:22:43] So you have a $2.9 million deficit.

[1:22:47] That's a that's a big hole that we need

[1:22:50] to figure out how to how to plug. Um,

[1:22:53] another way to look at that is we're

[1:22:56] spending

[1:22:58] 49% more than than the total re than

[1:23:01] we're bringing in in total revenues.

[1:23:03] That's a lot. And so again, think about

[1:23:06] just put in perspective. We're bringing

[1:23:07] in $6 million revenues. We are spending

[1:23:12] $3 million almost more than the amount

[1:23:15] of revenues that we're bringing in. So

[1:23:17] that's a lot of money.

[1:23:19] some key assumptions just as as you

[1:23:21] think about, you know, how we put this

[1:23:22] together, the budget, um, and some of

[1:23:25] the driving factors in terms of how the

[1:23:28] budget became, you know, what it is and

[1:23:31] how we got to the $2.9 million deficit.

[1:23:34] Uh, number one, CalPERS rates,

[1:23:37] fortunately for us, are going down very,

[1:23:39] very, very slightly.

[1:23:42] 3% um next year is what what they're

[1:23:46] forecasting. Uh to contrast with that,

[1:23:49] medical costs are actually forecasted to

[1:23:51] go up. Uh we're baking in 12% increase.

[1:23:54] On top of that, there's a $1,200 premium

[1:23:58] um increase on uh that the city has to

[1:24:00] pay per employee. And so the medical the

[1:24:03] benefits are going up substantially. So

[1:24:05] you'll see that across the board. Uh

[1:24:08] it's also baking in um step increases

[1:24:10] for staff and colas at their negotiated

[1:24:13] rates.

[1:24:16] Uh moving into the biggest piece is

[1:24:19] driving the revenues and

[1:24:23] you know again I'm I'm paraphrasing this

[1:24:26] this thick report so you're not

[1:24:28] necessarily going to be able to follow

[1:24:30] this um line by line but but again I

[1:24:33] think I expect this is there's going to

[1:24:35] be some questions as well. So, the

[1:24:36] biggest pieces driving this in terms of

[1:24:39] the revenues is you have $4.7 million in

[1:24:41] taxes.

[1:24:43] Um, the next biggest piece in revenues

[1:24:45] is is cannabis and that's about $225,000

[1:24:51] um in taxes. And then the next biggest

[1:24:54] piece is $183,000 in in building and

[1:24:57] planning that's um permits. So there's

[1:25:03] going to be some revenue subtractions.

[1:25:06] I think in past years what we've done is

[1:25:08] we've uh had a big transfer a couple big

[1:25:12] transfers from the enterprise funds to

[1:25:15] sort of compensate the city uh general

[1:25:17] fund for

[1:25:19] um you know the usage of the staff to

[1:25:22] run those those enterprises the from the

[1:25:24] general fund uh cost allocations from

[1:25:27] the general fund. um we're going to do

[1:25:29] things a little differently going

[1:25:31] forward where the enterprise funds are

[1:25:33] going to be charged directly for

[1:25:35] staffing. So there's never there's not

[1:25:37] going to be a separate charge. So it's

[1:25:39] not that the general fund isn't being

[1:25:41] compensated, it's just that the costs

[1:25:43] are not hitting the general fund um

[1:25:45] altogether anymore. Um and that's uh

[1:25:48] that's uh the uh methodology that is

[1:25:53] recommended by

[1:25:55] uh by Gazsby.

[1:25:58] So, moving into the expenses and looking

[1:26:01] at uh maybe I'll at this point I'll draw

[1:26:04] your attention to the first page of the

[1:26:06] memo. And if you look at that colorful

[1:26:10] pie chart right on the first page, I

[1:26:13] think that'll be helpful to sort of

[1:26:14] follow along that. Um and it's very easy

[1:26:18] to see where the bulk of the costs are

[1:26:21] for the city. Uh the biggest uh the

[1:26:23] biggest piece is obviously the police

[1:26:26] costs. Um and fire that's 63% of the

[1:26:29] budget is basically safety. Um another

[1:26:33] way to look at that and if you want to

[1:26:35] look at that sort of in in dollars uh

[1:26:37] that's 5.6 million of the 8.9 million in

[1:26:41] expenditures is is going just to safety.

[1:26:45] Big pieces in terms of safety

[1:26:47] expenditures.

[1:26:48] um you have overtime, you've got a

[1:26:51] different staff, you have different

[1:26:52] staffing levels, you have uh

[1:26:54] disabilities

[1:26:56] and and so overtime just for PD next

[1:27:00] year is forecasted at $380,000 and then

[1:27:04] fire at 281,000.

[1:27:07] You'll also see liability insurance for

[1:27:10] for the police department go up. Um I

[1:27:14] think in past years they the allocation

[1:27:17] methodology wasn't necessarily what um

[1:27:21] best practice. I think they were uh

[1:27:24] there was a a charge coming from

[1:27:26] although the general fund is paying for

[1:27:28] it. Now, this is going to reflect that

[1:27:30] the majority of the liability insurance

[1:27:33] is actually earmarked against PD because

[1:27:36] they have the highest salary levels and

[1:27:39] that's how they're supposed to allocate

[1:27:40] those.

[1:27:42] Um, there's also a big change this year

[1:27:46] with respect to dispatcher services. Um

[1:27:50] there's a Santa Maria and you know uh

[1:27:53] chief can might be able to add to this

[1:27:55] is is going to charge us $250,000

[1:27:58] more or uh in addition to what they're

[1:28:02] charging us next year. So that will be

[1:28:03] an increase to to the budget on the PD

[1:28:05] side. So there's some big expenditures

[1:28:08] that are really impacting the budget on

[1:28:12] that side.

[1:28:13] The other piece of the pie, and this is

[1:28:16] sort of the interesting part that you

[1:28:18] can kind of look at this in a couple

[1:28:20] different ways. Uh 37% of the rest of

[1:28:24] the budget that's not safety is really

[1:28:28] um city operations and administration,

[1:28:30] that's $3.3 million. So again, I want to

[1:28:33] maybe just have you think again about

[1:28:36] the deficit. So to put this in

[1:28:40] perspective, um if if we were to

[1:28:45] eliminate every other and not that say

[1:28:47] that you're going to do this, by the

[1:28:48] way, but just to put things in

[1:28:49] perspective, um even if we were to have

[1:28:52] a conversation of eliminating every

[1:28:54] other city activity except for safety,

[1:28:56] we would still uh that would still leave

[1:28:59] the city in a 12% deficit. In other

[1:29:02] words, we would still be in a $720,000 a

[1:29:06] year deficit for the city and we would

[1:29:08] only have fire and PD.

[1:29:11] Let me say this in a different way

[1:29:13] because I think it's I I just want to

[1:29:15] make sure that we understand what what

[1:29:17] is um

[1:29:21] what is in in front of us. Um, if we

[1:29:24] took all the city revenue of $6 million

[1:29:28] and we netted out the safety costs at

[1:29:31] $5.6 million, you would only have

[1:29:34] $400,000 to run the city.

[1:29:37] So, I hope that that makes it very clear

[1:29:40] in terms of what what it is um the

[1:29:44] levers that we have. I I think generally

[1:29:46] speaking, we need to maybe think about

[1:29:51] the things that we can change and the

[1:29:53] things that we can't change. Um just

[1:29:57] anecdotally, I had a I had a professor

[1:30:00] when I was working on my MBA,

[1:30:03] he was a a turnaround expert. He would

[1:30:05] go around and and help organizations

[1:30:07] turn around their their finances. and he

[1:30:10] said, "You know, the the biggest issue

[1:30:12] that I have when I'm giving advice to to

[1:30:15] boards and councils, etc., he says, is

[1:30:18] that they tend to focus on the the

[1:30:22] smallest slice of the pie and figuring

[1:30:24] out ways how to cut cost in the smallest

[1:30:26] piece of the pie to solve a very big

[1:30:29] hole." And he said and he said that that

[1:30:32] was typically the the political sort of

[1:30:35] attraction to it, but it would never get

[1:30:37] him anywhere. And he always, you know,

[1:30:39] he always said, "Look, when when things

[1:30:43] change was when they focused on making

[1:30:47] smaller changes or relevant changes in

[1:30:50] the bigger pieces of the pie and that's

[1:30:52] when it actually made an impact. And so

[1:30:54] I just put that out there for food for

[1:30:56] thought. I think some of the challenges

[1:30:59] and some of the maybe on a go forward

[1:31:01] basis what we need out of this

[1:31:02] discussion is we need direction on again

[1:31:04] closing the gap. We're spending more

[1:31:07] than we're making as a city and you know

[1:31:11] we're behind three years on audits. Um

[1:31:14] we have systemwide reconciliation of the

[1:31:16] books. So um I think there was um

[1:31:21] conceptually u that we had a reserve. I

[1:31:25] can tell you right now that you know I

[1:31:26] pulled up the balance sheet there is no

[1:31:28] reserve. The reserve was is long gone.

[1:31:32] And so I think that's another thing that

[1:31:33] just keep that in in the back of your

[1:31:35] head. there is no reserve and

[1:31:37] potentially

[1:31:39] that number could increase or decrease.

[1:31:41] It depends. There's a lot of moving

[1:31:42] pieces here as they clean up the books

[1:31:44] as the as the books are cleaned up over

[1:31:46] the next few years. Um

[1:31:50] either we become a we have a negative

[1:31:52] reserve which is basically what what

[1:31:54] that really means if we have a negative

[1:31:56] reserve is that the city general fund is

[1:32:00] expending dollars that they don't have

[1:32:03] anymore.

[1:32:04] Um, so that's again significant. Um,

[1:32:09] there, and I said this in my first

[1:32:11] presentation to the council, there's a

[1:32:14] potential liquidity uh there's potential

[1:32:17] liquidity concerns that we need to work

[1:32:19] very hard to avert and I've been working

[1:32:22] very closely with with David on this

[1:32:24] front. Um, we've put a lot of thought in

[1:32:26] terms of the projects, how we're going

[1:32:29] to continue those. Uh the next thing in

[1:32:32] terms of my priority list to figure out

[1:32:33] is is uh to get a really good beat on

[1:32:37] our liquidity for the city, how we're

[1:32:39] spending our cash and when we're

[1:32:41] spending it, when it's coming in, and

[1:32:43] when it's going out, because without

[1:32:45] that, we're not going to know what we

[1:32:47] can pay and when we can pay it. And so I

[1:32:49] think I think it's it's we're at that

[1:32:52] point where we really we're sort of at a

[1:32:54] crossroads where we can um we can make a

[1:32:58] positive impact in how we move forward

[1:33:00] and we can sort of change uh for the

[1:33:03] better or or potentially you know not

[1:33:05] for the better on on that front. Um just

[1:33:09] long story short, I would say ultimately

[1:33:12] either uh costs need to be cut. Uh we

[1:33:16] need to inc find a way to increase

[1:33:17] revenues, assume no reserves or and or

[1:33:20] do all of the above, right? Cut costs,

[1:33:23] increase revenues, assume no reserves.

[1:33:25] So with that, maybe I'll just um stop

[1:33:27] for questions. I'm sure you read the

[1:33:29] report. If you have questions, I'm happy

[1:33:31] to address questions on them.

[1:33:34] Yeah, when I first got this uh we've

[1:33:37] talked a little bit about it in terms of

[1:33:39] especially with the grants that we have.

[1:33:40] You got to, you know, we we we have the

[1:33:43] Royal Theater, we have the Las Mueres,

[1:33:46] we've got the train, we've got other

[1:33:48] projects and a lot of that, just like I

[1:33:50] mentioned before that when we did Leroy

[1:33:53] Park, we used uh about 750,000 from the

[1:33:58] land money that we had when we sold five

[1:34:01] acres to Pastada, which helped us pay

[1:34:05] first and then get reimbured from the

[1:34:06] state.

[1:34:08] And uh that money doesn't come real

[1:34:10] quick as you know and I know that lately

[1:34:12] I've been signing a bunch of requests

[1:34:14] for reimbursement from different

[1:34:15] entities that and big money that we put

[1:34:18] put out and then then we're expecting uh

[1:34:20] you know that return. So I know that

[1:34:24] it's if you don't have it in your bank,

[1:34:26] you can't move forward with that. You

[1:34:28] can't finish a project if there's not

[1:34:30] any money to pay for what's going on in

[1:34:32] construction. So, we really need to dig

[1:34:34] deep on where we where we are with uh

[1:34:36] all re reimbursements and I know you're

[1:34:38] doing that and trying to figure out who

[1:34:41] we need to submit u you know request for

[1:34:45] payment to that's a task and I know that

[1:34:48] um is is Annette still working with with

[1:34:50] you all or is she

[1:34:53] » Uh generally I'm sorry we generally

[1:34:56] speaking yes she um has a certain amount

[1:34:58] of hours that she can work she's done

[1:34:59] for this fiscal year the plan is to have

[1:35:01] her start again in um on July 1st.

[1:35:04] » Okay.

[1:35:05] » If she's willing to come back.

[1:35:07] » All right. Well, I think what happens is

[1:35:09] that it's it's like um

[1:35:12] you know, an engine in the car. That's

[1:35:16] all these pieces are broken. What do we

[1:35:18] stick? What do you fix first? You get a

[1:35:20] new block. You get new heads. You So,

[1:35:23] what we're looking at is an engine that

[1:35:26] needs to we need to fix. And the block

[1:35:30] is the biggest

[1:35:32] cost for a car and we're looking at some

[1:35:36] big expenses here with with public

[1:35:38] safety. You can't first of all you can't

[1:35:40] do away with everything else other than

[1:35:43] uh you know you know administration

[1:35:45] finance that like you mentioned that if

[1:35:47] we paid just that we wouldn't have

[1:35:49] anything else to we wouldn't have any

[1:35:51] departments other than police and fire.

[1:35:54] That doesn't work. So

[1:35:57] have now have you been talking with

[1:36:00] department heads in terms of input yet

[1:36:02] or have you or

[1:36:04] » Yeah, maybe maybe I can just talk about

[1:36:06] on that on that note I can talk about

[1:36:08] the process to to get to here. Okay.

[1:36:10] » Um you know I um we did sit down with

[1:36:13] the department heads and go through the

[1:36:15] budget line by line and talk about

[1:36:18] » You know just sort of framing it as

[1:36:19] we're in a in a budget deficit. We have

[1:36:22] to think about what we need and you know

[1:36:25] what's a need and what's a want.

[1:36:26] » Yeah. Yeah.

[1:36:27] » Right. And so I think um that was the

[1:36:29] narrative. Um, I know that, you know, I

[1:36:31] sat with David after we sat down with

[1:36:34] the departments and, you know, we

[1:36:35] sharpened the pencil even more, but I

[1:36:38] think at this point we're we're at the

[1:36:40] point where we need sort of the council

[1:36:42] to say, look, uh, maybe we don't need X,

[1:36:46] Y, and Z. Um or maybe we can you know

[1:36:50] think about this other kind of revenue

[1:36:52] over here that I don't know what that

[1:36:54] would be but but you know I mean there's

[1:36:56] only so so many places you can actually

[1:36:58] bring in true revenue

[1:36:59] » Uh to the city and you know one of those

[1:37:01] true revenues is is uh taxes and

[1:37:04] » Yeah. So and that's a heavy word.

[1:37:07] » Yeah.

[1:37:11] » Yeah. Um,

[1:37:14] » You know, it's probably been a while

[1:37:17] since we've actually been able to get a

[1:37:20] very thorough uh well done uh financial

[1:37:24] outlook for the city.

[1:37:26] » Um, it's very um

[1:37:30] for me I feel like it's very

[1:37:31] heartbreaking to find out the trouble

[1:37:32] that we're actually in. Um, I think, you

[1:37:35] know, we've been operating under this

[1:37:37] facade that we had money, we had a

[1:37:39] reserve, you know, I think last year

[1:37:41] this time we had a $3 million reserve.

[1:37:44] » How obviously it doesn't it doesn't

[1:37:47] math, right? You know, so, um, I think

[1:37:50] there's been some stuff that has gone

[1:37:54] very bad and we need to find ways to fix

[1:37:56] it. Um,

[1:37:58] and it's very difficult to get any kind

[1:38:01] of economic boom here. um because we do

[1:38:04] have the lower population um until

[1:38:08] Pasadera

[1:38:10] uh the north side of Pasadera starts

[1:38:11] developing the entrance to the city

[1:38:14] isn't looking super amazing. Um

[1:38:18] and you know we have some things that we

[1:38:19] have to work out and feeds and our

[1:38:22] permitting process isn't super

[1:38:23] streamlined like developers would like

[1:38:25] and you know business owners want

[1:38:27] whenever they come into a city but

[1:38:29] that's all things that we can fix that's

[1:38:31] fairly easy. Mhm.

[1:38:32] » Um, you know, it's a long-term

[1:38:34] development. You know, that's going to

[1:38:37] take time. And when we look at what

[1:38:39] we're what we're spending, you know, to

[1:38:42] to overtake a $3 million deficit at 600

[1:38:48] that $300,000 a year, you know, you're

[1:38:50] still looking at a 10-year plan, right?

[1:38:52] So, I mean, nothing is going to come

[1:38:54] quick, but we need to start making

[1:38:58] um

[1:39:00] strategic modifications.

[1:39:03] » Mhm.

[1:39:03] » Um, but I think some of that direction

[1:39:07] does have to come from you guys. Um,

[1:39:09] because we can sit around the water

[1:39:11] cooler and come up with plans and ideas

[1:39:13] that that we feel are going to be

[1:39:16] productive and show some kind of, you

[1:39:18] know, ROI in the end. But um

[1:39:26] we still have to have you guys on board.

[1:39:29] And right now the way this budget looks

[1:39:32] is you guys have to make some serious

[1:39:34] cuts.

[1:39:35] » Mhm.

[1:39:35] » Um

[1:39:37] because if we start making cuts, it's

[1:39:40] going to be the kind of cuts that nobody

[1:39:42] wants to see because it's going to have

[1:39:43] the fastest impact. and we need what you

[1:39:48] guys would like to see in your strategic

[1:39:50] long-term action plan. Um, things that

[1:39:53] right now, the way this budget is

[1:39:55] looking, things that are on the city's

[1:39:57] priority list

[1:39:59] are probably not going to be able to be

[1:40:01] attacked, not quickly, and probably not

[1:40:04] within a time frame that the city would

[1:40:05] have liked to seen those. Those are

[1:40:07] probably going to be rolled out a little

[1:40:08] bit longer. Um so that we can start

[1:40:12] catching up on this. Um

[1:40:15] you know, we're we're getting our books

[1:40:17] audited. We're still four years behind

[1:40:21] and we don't know what that's going to

[1:40:22] show. We know what we have in the bank

[1:40:25] and best case scenario, we find some

[1:40:27] checks that we didn't cash. Worst case

[1:40:29] scenario, we're going to find out that

[1:40:30] we owe more money,

[1:40:31] » You know? So, we have to plan for the

[1:40:33] worst still. Um,

[1:40:36] and

[1:40:38] you know, myself and Eli, Chief, we can

[1:40:40] only put Humpty together so much before

[1:40:42] we need somebody to come in and be like,

[1:40:45] "Hey, you know, that's not an ear, you

[1:40:47] know." So, um, whatever guidance you

[1:40:50] guys want to offer, um, maybe you can't

[1:40:53] even offer guidance tonight. Maybe it's

[1:40:55] something that has to be thought about,

[1:40:56] but um we are facing some pretty strong

[1:41:00] turmoil and we're going to have to dig

[1:41:03] dig deep and long. I think with with

[1:41:05] that is that we need we need to look at

[1:41:08] the actual

[1:41:10] sections that we need to look at in

[1:41:12] terms of where do we do we move forward

[1:41:15] or we do do we cut here or do we what is

[1:41:18] our if we don't have that schematic in

[1:41:20] terms of where is it that that is is

[1:41:23] where we bleeding where are we uh in

[1:41:26] well I know revenue is an issue because

[1:41:28] almost every almost a whole bunch of

[1:41:31] cities revenue is an issue but we need

[1:41:34] to look at if if it's the the police

[1:41:37] department, if it's finance, if it's if

[1:41:39] it's uh you know, fire department,

[1:41:41] whatever. Those are the two biggest

[1:41:43] police and fire are the two biggest

[1:41:45] ones. So, we need to look at how that's

[1:41:48] going to uh what do we need to do to

[1:41:50] make sure that like like Eli is saying,

[1:41:54] don't go after the small stuff because

[1:41:55] that isn't going to help. you need to

[1:41:56] look at, you know, those are the to me

[1:41:59] glaring glaring and uh and glaring

[1:42:04] issues. That's where the biggest money

[1:42:05] is going. So, how do we how do we deal

[1:42:07] with that? Then pair it down. But we

[1:42:09] need to see the specifics in terms of

[1:42:12] what are we what are we talking about?

[1:42:13] Are we talking about cars? Are we

[1:42:15] talking about uh you know, salaries? Are

[1:42:18] we talking about overtime? Uh we so if

[1:42:22] we had that information then we could we

[1:42:24] can actually uh put our foot to the

[1:42:26] metal. So please

[1:42:29] » Uh sort of in line with what you're

[1:42:30] you're saying

[1:42:32] David you said the department heads

[1:42:34] could talk around the water cooling and

[1:42:38] come up with whatever. Um but I think

[1:42:40] that's important that ties into what

[1:42:41] you're saying.

[1:42:43] What I I envision right now is what is

[1:42:47] it what are the projects that we got to

[1:42:50] have and for whatever reason we must

[1:42:52] have this we must have that uh you know

[1:42:55] water department we must have treatment

[1:42:57] plant we must have etc. um and the

[1:43:01] staffing involved with that. We

[1:43:03] currently have X at the water treatment.

[1:43:06] Do we need X? Um etc., etc. That that

[1:43:09] type of thing. And then we can look at

[1:43:11] it. And Chief, you said in your report

[1:43:13] that you have kind of done this, did it

[1:43:17] sound that way? Um but yeah, we would

[1:43:19] need to look at all the different

[1:43:20] departments and then get your input as

[1:43:23] opposed to um our saying, you know, just

[1:43:27] flipping through here and saying, "Well,

[1:43:29] this looks like it's a big number. Let's

[1:43:30] cut that.

[1:43:31] » This looks like a small number. I guess

[1:43:32] it's okay." You know, that kind of a

[1:43:34] thing. I don't have the knowledge to do

[1:43:35] that. I don't. But with your input per

[1:43:38] department, I think we can make a

[1:43:41] reasonably intelligent decision to uh

[1:43:44] direct you on on how to go forward on

[1:43:46] this.

[1:43:48] You know that you talked about projects.

[1:43:51] You know, we've got potentially Leroy

[1:43:53] with that

[1:43:55] was it 1.7 million for that new building

[1:43:58] or the expansion. We're we're still

[1:44:00] dealing with issues with Royal Theater

[1:44:03] in terms of the costs that we need to

[1:44:06] finish that

[1:44:08] the railroad the train station. Um

[1:44:11] there's a lot of projects out there that

[1:44:13] we need to you know do we need to slow

[1:44:16] those down? Do we need to say okay let's

[1:44:18] let's defer that even if we lose it if

[1:44:21] it's going to if it's going to

[1:44:22] physically financially impact us then we

[1:44:26] need to look at that and say okay we can

[1:44:28] we can uh the good part about Guadalupe

[1:44:31] is the bad part. The good part is we get

[1:44:33] grants and we get you know uh and the

[1:44:36] bad part is that we we need the money to

[1:44:39] front them. I shared with Amelia

[1:44:41] uh when I went to this in the newspaper

[1:44:44] was talking about Bolton and in the in

[1:44:47] the newspaper it it showed us a

[1:44:50] breakdown of the Santa Barbara County um

[1:44:54] the tax per capita

[1:44:57] per city.

[1:44:59] Um I don't know if you folks have seen

[1:45:01] it. It's in the it's not newssh hawk but

[1:45:04] it's one of the papers

[1:45:06] and uh builtin was highlighted in that

[1:45:09] and per capita uh they had they they get

[1:45:12] $76 per capita and I talked to David

[1:45:16] David Silva who's a mayor and they have

[1:45:19] a budget of something like 12 or 13

[1:45:21] million and 15 staff members. So that's

[1:45:26] you know that you know I think the

[1:45:28] sheriff's uh deal with them but they get

[1:45:32] because they have a lot of bit and I

[1:45:33] talked about earlier they have a lot of

[1:45:34] businesses there they have you know

[1:45:36] money coming in they have the tax dollar

[1:45:38] they have the toot

[1:45:41] transit tax

[1:45:44] so they get $76

[1:45:46] per person they're ranked 27 in the um

[1:45:51] in the county in the county let's see no

[1:45:55] There's 540 agencies, cities and

[1:45:58] counties and uh they rank 27 on the one

[1:46:03] of the tops. Kalita has u um you know

[1:46:07] $391 a person and then and then it goes

[1:46:11] Santa Maria goes uh unincorporated Santa

[1:46:13] Barbara County. We get $66

[1:46:17] a person

[1:46:19] and that's not a lot of money. And if

[1:46:23] you know I know that I was you know u

[1:46:26] talking with Craig Smith in terms of the

[1:46:28] issues that they're going through now

[1:46:29] with with a railroad uh trying to get

[1:46:32] permission to you know to you they have

[1:46:35] they have to go under underground for

[1:46:37] the water and stuff like that and

[1:46:39] they're having trouble with that. So

[1:46:40] that delays them further. So, and I

[1:46:42] think I think it was mentioned that

[1:46:44] they're not going to start building

[1:46:46] until probably the latter part of next

[1:46:48] year.

[1:46:50] And that we were making money on that on

[1:46:53] the permitting fees and and everything

[1:46:55] else and then the taxes eventually.

[1:46:58] The the other side of that was the the

[1:47:03] what the acre 15 acres of commercial

[1:47:06] that if that were if that were here

[1:47:08] today that would that would have we'd

[1:47:10] have a different scenario. Um

[1:47:14] but we're not. So we need to look at the

[1:47:16] departments and say here's here's here's

[1:47:18] where we are. Here's the expenses.

[1:47:20] Here's where we need to you know if what

[1:47:22] what it does it take to run the

[1:47:24] department. What does it take to run the

[1:47:26] the finance department? What does it

[1:47:27] take to run the fire department? Where

[1:47:29] can we we cut? So if we had that before

[1:47:31] us, so we'll be I I believe we'll be

[1:47:33] more than happy to to say this is our

[1:47:36] this is our responsibility, not the

[1:47:39] staff. You just give us the give us the

[1:47:41] data and we can we'll go at it. So and

[1:47:43] again like the like the grants that we

[1:47:45] have, if if we can't, you know, uh

[1:47:49] pay for them as we go, then this defer.

[1:47:53] Um,

[1:47:55] » I just want to thank uh Eli uh for this

[1:47:57] robust report. Um, yeah, I think it

[1:47:59] uncovered some red flags that maybe

[1:48:01] should have been flagged last year. Um,

[1:48:03] and unfortunately that didn't happen.

[1:48:04] So, I really want to thank you for this

[1:48:06] thorough report. Um, speaking of last

[1:48:09] year, I know that maybe we didn't have

[1:48:10] the strongest foundation and so I think

[1:48:12] David will be working on how we can

[1:48:14] create a strong foundation to have that

[1:48:16] um, budget play out for the best of us.

[1:48:18] Um, last year we seen um, I seen a few

[1:48:21] spending on our warrants. Um, I want to

[1:48:24] see how we can direct staff to make sure

[1:48:26] that, you know, reimbursements are

[1:48:28] submitted on time. Um, so we're not late

[1:48:31] on reimbursements. I think a few times

[1:48:32] reimbursements have been submitted a

[1:48:34] year or two late. Um, and then what can

[1:48:37] we also give um direction on staff for

[1:48:40] like purchase and travel? What does that

[1:48:42] look like? Um, and if there's any more

[1:48:45] realistic options that we can uh do to

[1:48:47] move forward to have a structurally

[1:48:49] balanced budget, I would like to know.

[1:48:51] So what we are going to end um

[1:48:56] um

[1:49:01] put in place um July 1st uh we're going

[1:49:04] to start doing a purchase order program.

[1:49:06] Um anything $1,000 or more collectively

[1:49:10] uh has to come through get my approval.

[1:49:13] Uh it will go through finance. It will

[1:49:15] get finances approval stating that you

[1:49:17] do have money in that account that

[1:49:18] you're trying to spend. Um, so that's

[1:49:21] going to go in place. Um,

[1:49:25] um, what was the other part?

[1:49:27] » I think the reimbursements. I sometimes

[1:49:29] » Reimbursements. Yeah. So, um, that's

[1:49:31] difficult with this new grant firm that

[1:49:34] we went to.

[1:49:34] » Yeah.

[1:49:35] » Um, they are handling everything a toz.

[1:49:37] » Okay.

[1:49:38] » Uh, so writing, submission,

[1:49:40] reimbursement, reporting. Um, and then

[1:49:42] we will still have a staff member. um

[1:49:45] who is also doing that that's finding

[1:49:46] all the money right now that who would

[1:49:49] have thought right um so that's going to

[1:49:51] be in place also um

[1:49:54] projects are going to get halted um

[1:49:59] we have some projects that are going on

[1:50:01] that

[1:50:03] have been started and then delayed due

[1:50:06] to permitting

[1:50:08] um so there's already been a lot charged

[1:50:10] to those accounts so trying to stop

[1:50:12] those might not even make sense

[1:50:14] Um but there is other projects that

[1:50:18] um

[1:50:21] are not regulatory required. Uh we do

[1:50:24] have like lift stations that are going

[1:50:25] into into work that

[1:50:28] we have to do um so that we don't get

[1:50:32] novas. Um so those will have to

[1:50:36] continue. Um but things like um

[1:50:41] you know uh

[1:50:44] and

[1:50:46] all construction is probably going to

[1:50:47] stop in December.

[1:50:48] » Okay.

[1:50:48] » Um retroactively and that's going to be

[1:50:52] everything from the Royal Theater to if

[1:50:54] Lost Mooners isn't done. Like

[1:50:57] construction is stopping in December. We

[1:50:58] have to take a moment, pump our brakes,

[1:51:02] balance our books, find out how much

[1:51:03] money we have because the Royal Theater

[1:51:07] alone will shut the city down with our

[1:51:10] revolving funds and our reimbursement

[1:51:14] actions with the Royal Theater because

[1:51:16] it's federal. They don't reimburse

[1:51:18] quick. Um, and we're working off

[1:51:22] borrowed time, so everything will have

[1:51:25] to stop in December. Um, and then take a

[1:51:29] breath, figure out where we are. Um,

[1:51:34] and then

[1:51:36] do like an actual priority list for

[1:51:40] construction projects. Um, I think

[1:51:44] in the past we've applied for grants,

[1:51:46] we've been awarded grants and then we

[1:51:48] sit on grants for a long time and then

[1:51:51] we start cooking off grants and just

[1:51:53] project project or you know whatever the

[1:51:56] case may be and nobody thinks that hey

[1:51:58] it's a good idea that maybe we should

[1:52:00] prioritize these. Which ones do we need

[1:52:02] first? Which could we have waited

[1:52:04] another year on the theater? Could we

[1:52:06] have started the park last year? you

[1:52:08] know, like there's no like actual

[1:52:09] prioritization on needs, right? It's all

[1:52:12] um we're being reactive with grants and

[1:52:15] we can't be. We have to be more

[1:52:17] proactive. We have to do more planning

[1:52:18] up front. Um and

[1:52:21] we have to manage the grant

[1:52:24] as if we have the money because that's

[1:52:28] the way

[1:52:30] it becomes. As soon as you start doing

[1:52:32] something and you charge something to

[1:52:33] that account, you better start doing a

[1:52:35] reimbursement. You know, I mean, we've

[1:52:37] seen it from FEMA with Caloes to, you

[1:52:41] know, the EDA with the Royal Theater. If

[1:52:43] you're not staying on top of those grant

[1:52:45] reimbursements,

[1:52:47] you know, I mean, we we have $300,000 on

[1:52:51] Highway One lift station that we can't

[1:52:53] get a reimbursement on because we waited

[1:52:55] too long to file the reimbursement and

[1:52:58] the reason for the reimbursement is null

[1:53:00] and void anymore. So we're running at

[1:53:03] the issues like that whenever we had

[1:53:05] people in place that were supposed to be

[1:53:07] doing that as their job.

[1:53:09] » So that's the kind of things that we're

[1:53:10] starting to find and now that they're

[1:53:13] being pointed out we can be more

[1:53:14] proactive with our approach because this

[1:53:17] reactive that we've been it's going to

[1:53:20] bring the same chasable.

[1:53:24] » Um

[1:53:25] » I like the the prioritization. Um would

[1:53:28] do you have like a master list and or

[1:53:30] will you create a master list of

[1:53:32] projects that are happening in

[1:53:33] Guualalupe the project amount and then

[1:53:36] obviously if you have um prioritization

[1:53:39] what that looks like so that way we know

[1:53:41] what are the ongoing projects not now

[1:53:43] because I know that's a lot of work

[1:53:44] » You know because it is actually

[1:53:46] something that we we maintain a list of

[1:53:48] projects um you know when I started here

[1:53:51] last year

[1:53:54] um a forest city of $8,700 $8700 people.

[1:53:58] Um, you know, we had a $37 million CIP

[1:54:03] list. You know, Slow and Santa Maria

[1:54:05] aren't touching a $37 million CIP list,

[1:54:07] you know, or if they are, it's because

[1:54:10] it's in their five-year plan, right?

[1:54:13] Theoretically, whenever you're doing

[1:54:14] these projects, it's a five-year plan,

[1:54:15] right? You know, Jeff Comm does a

[1:54:17] five-year pop um for that reason. And um

[1:54:24] we shouldn't have started $21 million of

[1:54:27] projects within 6 months of each other,

[1:54:28] right? We should have done 3 million or

[1:54:31] one project, one project. And then we

[1:54:34] wouldn't be stuck with the same problem

[1:54:36] that we're in now where we've started

[1:54:38] projects, got held up by permitting, and

[1:54:40] now,

[1:54:42] you know, the the

[1:54:45] it doesn't make sense for us to stop

[1:54:46] because we're so far as spending goes

[1:54:49] into the project, you know.

[1:54:51] » So, I mean,

[1:54:53] it it's

[1:54:56] I we can't fix the past, you know, all

[1:54:58] we can do is start from right now. U we

[1:55:00] have a list. we've worked and we've cut

[1:55:02] that list from I don't know $37 million

[1:55:05] to I don't know it's probably $5 million

[1:55:07] now. There's probably one thing on there

[1:55:09] um and it's stuff that has to be done or

[1:55:12] um the

[1:55:15] um financial effect of the city isn't

[1:55:18] um great enough that it's going to um be

[1:55:23] detrimental. You know, we have a project

[1:55:25] that you guys approved tonight for the

[1:55:26] ADA uh sidewalk at the school. you know,

[1:55:29] like the the cons of that project far

[1:55:34] outweigh what we're going to spend on

[1:55:35] that project, you know. So, that that's

[1:55:37] the kind of stuff that we're looking at

[1:55:38] now, you know, and and it's it's we're

[1:55:42] digging into the weeds of all these

[1:55:44] things and finding out where the money's

[1:55:47] coming from. Is there a is there a

[1:55:48] deadline on the on the grant? Right? How

[1:55:50] close are we to that deadline? And if

[1:55:53] we're too close, then it's like, hey,

[1:55:55] like the mayor said, we'll just let it

[1:55:56] fall and we'll reapply again. But what

[1:55:59] we can't do is start a grant and then

[1:56:03] let it falter because then we may not

[1:56:06] get that grant again or, you know,

[1:56:08] people start looking at us like, oh, we

[1:56:10] can't get those guys money. They can't

[1:56:11] even fill out paperwork, you know. So,

[1:56:14] we're trying to avoid that, but still

[1:56:17] work in a way that we can balance some

[1:56:18] kind of budget.

[1:56:21] » Thank you. I think Christina Council

[1:56:24] says good point. We need that see that

[1:56:26] list. So what it's not all on your

[1:56:28] shoulders that it needs to we weren't

[1:56:30] aware. I think we were aware of the

[1:56:32] different projects that are out there.

[1:56:34] The big you know the pie in the sky but

[1:56:37] the specifics in terms of reimbursement

[1:56:39] the cost what's it how much lead time is

[1:56:42] there that we have to you know that we

[1:56:45] submit a request for reimbursement. When

[1:56:47] do we get it paid?

[1:56:48] » What pocket of money does that come

[1:56:50] from? general fund and then then not now

[1:56:52] now we're we're finding out

[1:56:56] to you know too late that that's that's

[1:56:59] another way to do business.

[1:57:01] » Hey and you know we're we're making our

[1:57:03] budget based on the grant amount, right?

[1:57:07] So, we're we're making um Eli found this

[1:57:11] out last week sometime or a couple weeks

[1:57:13] ago where

[1:57:14] » There was grants in there for say $3.5

[1:57:17] million and that's what we're budgeting,

[1:57:19] but the contract amount was only 2.2.

[1:57:22] » Yeah.

[1:57:22] » So, now we just took $1.3 million off

[1:57:25] our budget that we're no longer worried

[1:57:26] about no more because we're not even

[1:57:28] going to get there. All we need to worry

[1:57:29] about is the 2.2.

[1:57:31] » Mhm.

[1:57:31] » So, you know, he's started going through

[1:57:33] and picking apart contracts like how

[1:57:35] much is this? How much is this? what is

[1:57:37] the you know the 15% incidental stuff

[1:57:40] and you know all this stuff to actually

[1:57:42] get us an actual formulated budget

[1:57:46] » Now um

[1:57:49] you mentioned FEMA where are we with

[1:57:51] that that's is we have any

[1:57:54] » That is that is the the ghost underneath

[1:57:56] the bed that nobody wants to look at

[1:57:58] » Well can I speak to that as well I think

[1:57:59] I mean just to piggy piggyback on you

[1:58:02] know obviously exclamation mark on

[1:58:04] everything that David said,

[1:58:07] » But with grants, as you know, I think if

[1:58:09] the moral of the story, they're a

[1:58:11] blessing and a curse, right? I think for

[1:58:13] for a city, if you manage it

[1:58:15] responsibly, you can do it,

[1:58:17] » Right?

[1:58:17] » And I think the FEMA is a perfect

[1:58:19] example of why, yes, it's great to have

[1:58:23] grant money. However, because you're sp

[1:58:26] the outlay of money is comes up front,

[1:58:29] you know, anything that happens, whether

[1:58:31] it's staff changes, whether it's a

[1:58:33] report that's required by the federal

[1:58:36] government or whoever you're getting a

[1:58:38] reimbursement from can delay the

[1:58:40] recovery of those funds, we're three

[1:58:42] years or FEMA, three years u out from

[1:58:46] the actual incident now.

[1:58:48] » And so, to answer your question, where

[1:58:49] are we at right now? Right now, it's in

[1:58:51] FEMA's right now, it's in FEMA's desk.

[1:58:53] They're analyzing the information that

[1:58:55] we sent them and we're waiting to hear

[1:58:56] back from them. So again, that's out of

[1:58:58] our control right now.

[1:59:00] » And so, but again, we're three years out

[1:59:02] from recovering $800,000.

[1:59:06] » That's a chunk of change for a city of

[1:59:08] this size. You know, we're um

[1:59:13] the liquidity concerns are are real. Um

[1:59:16] I think with respect to the grants,

[1:59:19] we've you know, David and I have had a

[1:59:21] lot of conversations. He's probably

[1:59:23] tired of hearing from me on on this

[1:59:25] front. And you know, I go in his office.

[1:59:27] I said, "Look at the CIP list." And, you

[1:59:29] know, what can we cut? What can we cut

[1:59:31] today? Because, you know, there's no way

[1:59:33] that the city can,

[1:59:35] you know, spend, you know, $10 million

[1:59:38] on this project in this coming year

[1:59:40] because quite frankly, we don't have

[1:59:42] that money. We don't have it. I mean,

[1:59:44] what are we just going to stop

[1:59:45] operations for the entire city? That's

[1:59:46] not going to happen. So, we have to do

[1:59:48] this a little bit more intelligently and

[1:59:50] obviously he's been great about that.

[1:59:51] Um, but just to give you a perspective

[1:59:53] of how we got there and to add to

[1:59:55] David's point, if you turn to page 14,

[1:59:59] um, it's the 14 of the budget worksheet.

[2:00:02] There's two sets of of of page of, uh,

[2:00:05] numbers, and I apologize. I think next

[2:00:06] time I'll I'll give you one set of

[2:00:08] numbers, but it's the fund summary. It's

[2:00:11] should say on the top right, and it's

[2:00:12] says 14 of 14.

[2:00:18] So if you look at that that column on

[2:00:20] the far left 23 24 you have uh a surplus

[2:00:25] of a million dollars.

[2:00:28] And to David's point, the reason that

[2:00:30] you have a surplus is because that year,

[2:00:33] if you flip if you flip to if you flip

[2:00:36] back to page three of that same report,

[2:00:41] um you have well, no, not page three.

[2:00:43] Let's see. Where is it? Um

[2:00:46] sorry,

[2:00:48] it's under under the grants. Well, for

[2:00:51] for um simplicity sake, let's just say

[2:00:54] it's under the grants inside the general

[2:00:57] revenue. We banked on $1.1 million that

[2:00:59] we were going to receive. I know what

[2:01:01] that was supposed to be for.

[2:01:03] That money got baked into the general

[2:01:05] fund.

[2:01:07] And um

[2:01:09] you know, although that money hasn't

[2:01:10] been spent for what it was supposed to

[2:01:12] be spent, it inflated the revenues

[2:01:15] » And we we spent like as if we had a

[2:01:17] million $1.1 million more.

[2:01:20] So that's the problem with that that way

[2:01:22] of thinking. And as you can see, 2425

[2:01:24] budget deficit, 25 26 budget deficit,

[2:01:27] and the budget deficit is just going to

[2:01:29] keep compounding. So, we're here for a

[2:01:31] reason. And so, and if we don't change

[2:01:34] the trajectory of of this, the numbers

[2:01:36] are just going to get bigger and bigger

[2:01:37] and bigger. Um, and so I just want to

[2:01:41] make sure that for purposes of clarity

[2:01:44] for me and and maybe I don't know, for

[2:01:46] the rest of us to make sure that we're

[2:01:47] on on the right path. um you want us to

[2:01:50] come back with areas where we we could

[2:01:53] cut costs um to give you sort of a

[2:01:56] visual of you know by department and

[2:01:57] give you some options um and and then

[2:02:00] just from my perspective it's going to

[2:02:02] be important to understand whether or

[2:02:04] not service levels are on the table as

[2:02:05] well because that's really where you're

[2:02:07] going to have the most impact

[2:02:09] » Because if you're going to if you're

[2:02:10] going to tell us we want the exact same

[2:02:12] service level and magically cut costs I

[2:02:15] think we're going to be having the same

[2:02:16] conversation and we're not going to get

[2:02:17] anywhere.

[2:02:23] Can you see it? Okay. No, we need we

[2:02:26] need that. And it's our job to, you

[2:02:28] know, to basically

[2:02:30] say yay or nay to these things. And it's

[2:02:32] um

[2:02:34] on these numbers that you've got here 20

[2:02:36] 24. I know that um

[2:02:40] where did you where did you get these?

[2:02:42] Where where did you find these numbers?

[2:02:44] Are you digging into them? Where do you

[2:02:45] where do you

[2:02:46] » Those are numbers that have always been

[2:02:48] there. I haven't changed 20 I haven't

[2:02:50] changed 23 24. I haven't changed any of

[2:02:51] those pri the only year that I've

[2:02:53] touched is 26 27

[2:02:56] » And so those have always been there. And

[2:02:58] the challenge and as I'm looking through

[2:03:00] this you know my goal is to balance

[2:03:01] these these accounts.

[2:03:03] » Yes. Yeah.

[2:03:04] » To have a balanced budget. That's where

[2:03:05] the term comes from is a balanced budget

[2:03:07] means that

[2:03:08] » If you look at the expendit the revenues

[2:03:10] and the expenditures for the account

[2:03:13] » The outcome is zero because

[2:03:15] » Right

[2:03:15] » Right that's what city government you're

[2:03:17] not in you're not here to make a profit

[2:03:19] » Right

[2:03:19] » Right so you're expending as much money

[2:03:21] as you're taking in and you're using it

[2:03:22] wisely so if you look at prior years and

[2:03:25] and you can look at this later on but

[2:03:27] you look at the accounts and the net the

[2:03:28] net of those accounts is not going to be

[2:03:30] zero okay you're if you would have kept

[2:03:33] to those budgets as you would have

[2:03:35] planned in the budgets, you you would

[2:03:37] have intentionally over spent.

[2:03:40] » And that's the problem, right? So, I

[2:03:41] think we we need to cut that down. And

[2:03:43] now that we've sort of tred it up and

[2:03:44] said, "Okay, we can't we can't just say

[2:03:47] we can't just say um we're not looking

[2:03:50] at the enterprise funds today, but we

[2:03:52] will." And I have a pretty solid idea

[2:03:54] what those look like. But we can't say

[2:03:56] say we're going to take, you know,

[2:03:57] $800,000 from the enterprise fund when

[2:04:00] the enterprise fund is not doesn't have

[2:04:02] an extra $800,000 to take from it.

[2:04:05] So, we just need to pump the brakes on

[2:04:06] that, right? So, I I think we need to

[2:04:08] figure out where we're going to get

[2:04:09] those other $800 $800,000 from if it's

[2:04:11] not going to be there.

[2:04:14] » I just had a quick question for Mr.

[2:04:15] Single. Um I know that um

[2:04:19] Mr. Eli was referencing the 2023 2024

[2:04:23] unudited um financials. Is there

[2:04:26] anything as council that we can do to

[2:04:28] safeguard the city? maybe a policy in

[2:04:30] place that ensures that we have to do

[2:04:32] these audits every year. I'm not too

[2:04:36] sure.

[2:04:38] » I

[2:04:40] you certainly could have council policy

[2:04:43] directing staff to do that. Um you could

[2:04:47] probably adopt an ordinance to that

[2:04:48] effect.

[2:04:49] um

[2:04:51] » What would be this I guess the best um I

[2:04:54] would just like to have some safeguards

[2:04:56] moving forward um to make sure that

[2:04:59] we're not working with un audited

[2:05:01] numbers in the future

[2:05:04] » I could get back to you and see you know

[2:05:07] what your options are I have to I wasn't

[2:05:09] prepared to answer any questions during

[2:05:11] this particular segment um

[2:05:13] » Worries I just know that this impacts

[2:05:14] our our residents and our communities

[2:05:16] first

[2:05:17] » Well a lot of agencies that that we get

[2:05:19] money from want an audit. So, it's why

[2:05:23] » Well,

[2:05:24] » We shouldn't have to say you're gonna

[2:05:25] we're gonna get it done. It's our it's

[2:05:27] our job and our job the council will

[2:05:29] make it happen. So,

[2:05:30] » Well, and it it's my understanding that

[2:05:32] both state and county have audit

[2:05:34] requirements in place. Correct.

[2:05:36] » That's right.

[2:05:36] » Yeah. So, the county the council doesn't

[2:05:38] necessarily need to do that because the

[2:05:41] state and county already do that.

[2:05:42] » Yeah.

[2:05:42] » So, previously we would have just told

[2:05:44] them we did it or what would happen?

[2:05:46] What would those conversations been? It

[2:05:48] probably went something along the lines

[2:05:49] of the same thing everybody in the

[2:05:51] county did not too long ago when

[2:05:53] everybody was had submitted unodudited

[2:05:56] reports to what was it the SBG that

[2:05:59] everybody just did it.

[2:06:00] » Yeah. to to just provide something and

[2:06:03] then

[2:06:06] probably nobody stayed on top of it here

[2:06:10] » To ensure that

[2:06:11] » Right

[2:06:11] » You know because I mean

[2:06:13] » Whatever that last one was it TDA that

[2:06:15] was submitted a couple months ago that

[2:06:17] everybody should submitted unodudited

[2:06:20] reports

[2:06:21] you know you have to stay on it you know

[2:06:24] and

[2:06:24] » You know God bless Eli you know he's

[2:06:27] coming in here

[2:06:28] » Guns blazing and he he's trying to if if

[2:06:31] we didn't have RGS and we didn't have a

[2:06:33] net working side by side like we

[2:06:36] wouldn't even be even kind of having

[2:06:38] this discussion yet probably.

[2:06:40] » Thank you for that. Um I was new to

[2:06:41] council so this is my fourth year but I

[2:06:43] don't think it was ever shared like this

[2:06:44] needs to be audited until last year that

[2:06:46] was raised to us and so that's why you

[2:06:48] know we will have obviously one day

[2:06:50] where none of these councils will be

[2:06:52] here so what safeguards will be in place

[2:06:54] to make sure that you know

[2:06:55] » Well I'm I'm assuming that's why you

[2:06:57] have like Gazsby and the caffer and all

[2:06:59] this stuff all these financial terms

[2:07:01] dictate right

[2:07:02] » Yeah there's definitely there's this

[2:07:04] thing's on um there's definitely u

[2:07:08] regulation and there's guidance on, you

[2:07:11] know, on these types of things. The

[2:07:14] challenge, and I wasn't here, the

[2:07:16] challenge is the how it fell behind

[2:07:19] » And there could been there could have

[2:07:20] been a multitude of things that

[2:07:21] happened. I I don't know that I can

[2:07:23] speak to that. Um, and I also will say

[2:07:25] this. I was at a breakfast the other day

[2:07:27] with the finance directors of

[2:07:29] surrounding areas and, you know, several

[2:07:33] of them were behind on their audits and

[2:07:35] for their cities. That being said, it it

[2:07:38] doesn't necessarily help us in any way,

[2:07:39] shape, or form that everybody else is

[2:07:41] behind or others are behind, right?

[2:07:42] We're we're still being gated on

[2:07:44] accessing our funds. We have about over

[2:07:47] a million dollars that are waiting uh to

[2:07:50] be distributed to us from um SPAG and

[2:07:54] they won't give it to us until we have

[2:07:55] our audits done.

[2:07:56] » Mhm.

[2:07:58] » So, it's a challenge

[2:08:01] » And it's all money that's already been

[2:08:02] spent, right? You know, we look at and

[2:08:06] you know, we're going to face this

[2:08:08] probably in every six months until

[2:08:10] Highway 166 is done. And that's we have

[2:08:14] to pay a portion of that, right? Like

[2:08:18] we're required to pay $4 million into

[2:08:21] that construction. How do we do that if

[2:08:24] we don't have $4 million or we're not

[2:08:26] getting our audits done to get

[2:08:27] reimbursements from SBK so that we do

[2:08:29] have that $4 million so that we can make

[2:08:31] that payment,

[2:08:32] » You know, and

[2:08:34] you know, we could try to to

[2:08:38] we don't have the safeguards in place

[2:08:41] that we had prior whenever we were in

[2:08:44] the same situation. You know, we can't

[2:08:47] sell the water tower again. We can't

[2:08:50] » Take money from Pasadera again. We we

[2:08:52] don't have that option anymore, you

[2:08:54] know. So, um

[2:08:57] we can hope that maybe the folks that

[2:09:00] bought the land over here off of Flower

[2:09:01] want to annex into the city and start a

[2:09:03] development. I I don't know. We can we

[2:09:05] can hope something like that happens.

[2:09:07] But you're still looking at, you know,

[2:09:08] 10 years down the road or something, you

[2:09:09] know. Um it it's unfortunate our sphere

[2:09:13] of influence right doesn't really reach

[2:09:16] very far because of the shape of our

[2:09:19] city the development opportunities

[2:09:21] within our city things that give all

[2:09:23] these other cities economic

[2:09:25] um hope we don't really have because our

[2:09:29] city's essentially developed.

[2:09:30] » Yeah. We're locked in,

[2:09:31] » Right? We're kind of unless we seek to

[2:09:34] start going out and taking property

[2:09:37] going towards the coast or you know

[2:09:40] towards Santa Maria. I mean

[2:09:43] » But we still hit all these agricultural

[2:09:46] uh

[2:09:47] things that are going to block us from

[2:09:48] any kind of future development anytime

[2:09:50] soon you know. So

[2:09:54] » So what's next? Uh, next we will um

[2:10:00] I kind of have a plan that you've

[2:10:02] already that you requested. I kind of

[2:10:04] already have something like that already

[2:10:05] in place. Um,

[2:10:09] and I think I've already kind of started

[2:10:11] working off that, but uh we could

[2:10:14] present that. Um, and then we will have

[2:10:18] a re or we will have a

[2:10:23] enterprise funds next. Um,

[2:10:28] and

[2:10:30] or would you prefer us to reattack this

[2:10:32] one again and then Enterprise?

[2:10:34] Enterprise is going to be pretty cut and

[2:10:36] dry, right? I mean, it's

[2:10:37] » Prejudice. Yes, it is what it is.

[2:10:39] » I think we need to get this

[2:10:40] » This. Yeah. you know, next two weeks

[2:10:44] we'll come back with

[2:10:45] » Okay

[2:10:45] » Some options of

[2:10:48] corporate restructuring

[2:10:50] » That and and you know I know that we had

[2:10:52] we went through a different financial

[2:10:54] system and a finance system so everybody

[2:10:56] says well that's the problem because we

[2:10:57] couldn't one couldn't talk to the other

[2:10:59] and and I think Eli's

[2:11:02] » Looking through that.

[2:11:03] » Yeah. But yeah, I mean even talking to

[2:11:05] the pros that are assisting us, you

[2:11:07] know, once we get 22 23 done, we will

[2:11:11] only be on our current financial system

[2:11:14] and there's not a a glimmer of it

[2:11:18] increasing the speed in which this is

[2:11:20] done,

[2:11:20] » Right? Okay. That's

[2:11:21] » Yeah, because that's been my question

[2:11:23] too. Okay, once we get on the same we

[2:11:25] get on the software we're using now, you

[2:11:26] know, we're just going to be firing on

[2:11:27] all cylinders and no, it's not like

[2:11:29] that.

[2:11:29] » Okay. Yeah. you know, because now you

[2:11:32] know where to look to find where

[2:11:34] everything's hidden,

[2:11:35] » Right?

[2:11:35] » So, depending on the auditor and you

[2:11:38] know how far they want to go down the

[2:11:40] rabbit hole,

[2:11:41] » You know, I'm not going to blame

[2:11:42] anybody, but over the last year and a

[2:11:46] half before Eli got here is that

[2:11:50] normally we had financial reports on a

[2:11:53] monthly basis to show where we were. Um

[2:11:56] then it showed the reserve it showed and

[2:11:59] then for some reason that didn't happen

[2:12:02] and then all of a sudden we find out

[2:12:05] that the 22 23 audit wasn't done. So

[2:12:09] then we said why not? Um

[2:12:13] we have to look forward but we can't we

[2:12:15] can't we can't rehash that because it's

[2:12:18] gone in terms of the you know where we

[2:12:21] are. But I think it bring bring it back

[2:12:24] so we could chew on it. So we could see

[2:12:25] just like you know the list of the

[2:12:27] projects that we have what's it going to

[2:12:29] cost us to you know if we move forward

[2:12:31] with this uh

[2:12:33] um we need to know that so that you will

[2:12:36] have direction uh you know from us.

[2:12:39] building it very well.

[2:12:43] » Any comments from council Jane?

[2:12:50] » Just repeating once we get this data uh

[2:12:53] projects and departmental u information.

[2:12:56] » Yeah.

[2:12:56] » Um that's exactly what we need and uh

[2:13:00] can make some good decisions next

[2:13:03] council meeting. Are we going to have a

[2:13:05] a budget workshop uh

[2:13:08] to go into detail in this? Is it or

[2:13:11] we're just going to

[2:13:12] » Yeah, we can go into as much detail as

[2:13:14] you want.

[2:13:14] » Okay.

[2:13:15] » Um

[2:13:17] that this was a good overview. So if

[2:13:19] next

[2:13:21] » Man we got a lot coming up over the next

[2:13:24] month, okay,

[2:13:24] » Because of uh

[2:13:26] » As long as you give us

[2:13:26] » Because we have elections and all this

[2:13:28] stuff, you know, so uh we have stuff

[2:13:30] that has to get passed. So

[2:13:31] » Okay. Um but we will dig into as much as

[2:13:34] this as

[2:13:36] » You want

[2:13:38] powerpoints and

[2:13:39] » Okay good

[2:13:39] » All this stuff if that's

[2:13:40] » Yeah good

[2:13:41] » Make it more um

[2:13:43] » So you can see it better

[2:13:46] » Well thank you Eli David Chief anybody

[2:13:50] else we got work to do so

[2:13:55] all right um future agenda items

[2:14:03] Do we have a Caesar? When's that Caesar

[2:14:07] the street name coming up? Is that Is

[2:14:09] that on here? I didn't check it out.

[2:14:11] » Um, we have sent the stuff out.

[2:14:13] » Um,

[2:14:14] » When is it when is it due?

[2:14:15] » Oh. Oh.

[2:14:16] » Oh,

[2:14:19] » I thought it was

[2:14:22] » I thought it was soon.

[2:14:28] Oh, there you go. That is But then when

[2:14:30] I know that the the flyers or the

[2:14:33] opinions had to come in,

[2:14:35] » Man,

[2:14:37] » That's all right. Don't Yeah, don't

[2:14:38] worry about it. Okay,

[2:14:39] » I'll have to send you a text.

[2:14:40] » Okay. Okay. Any future agenda items?

[2:14:44] We got enough to chew on. Announcements,

[2:14:46] council activity reports.

[2:14:49] Amelia, you first.

[2:14:50] » Okay. Um

[2:14:53] as chief mentioned uh there was a

[2:14:55] memorial day uh ceremony at the cemetery

[2:14:58] yesterday and uh mayor spoke uh chief

[2:15:02] spoke

[2:15:04] uh Albert Nunes Jr. who's the president

[2:15:06] of uh the cemetery spoke. Uh the guest

[2:15:09] speaker was

[2:15:11] » Helen Galvin,

[2:15:12] » Right?

[2:15:13] » Who was the president of the GI forum.

[2:15:15] Um it was very wellreceived um for a

[2:15:19] change. It was extremely hot and uh

[2:15:22] there were a good number of people

[2:15:23] there. It was very nice and there was a

[2:15:25] very nice lunchon um at the vets hall

[2:15:27] afterwards um catered by I believe it

[2:15:29] was Nerdos. It was very good. Um this

[2:15:33] Thursday is the it was mentioned chief

[2:15:35] also mentioned the uh Becca youth uh

[2:15:38] boys and girls club. I will be

[2:15:40] participating in that. That will be my

[2:15:42] first time.

[2:15:44] » Um

[2:15:44] » What time does that start? Uh Charlene,

[2:15:46] do you know

[2:15:46] » 5:30?

[2:15:47] » Well, you know. Yeah. Okay.

[2:15:48] » 5:30 to 7:30.

[2:15:51] » Um

[2:15:51] » 5:30.

[2:15:52] » 5:30 to 7:30. Yeah.

[2:15:54] » And uh let's see. Um my first meeting of

[2:15:59] the CCWA uh was scheduled for this

[2:16:02] Thursday. It's the last Thursday of each

[2:16:04] month. And then I received a email that

[2:16:06] it was cancelled.

[2:16:08] So uh the next meeting is going to be on

[2:16:11] uh June 25th and it's going to be a

[2:16:13] public hearing to uh approve the 2020

[2:16:18] guess 2025 2026 urban water management

[2:16:22] plan. Um there's a document that was

[2:16:24] sent out with an e uh email. It's 190

[2:16:27] pages.

[2:16:29] » So hopefully I can read that before June

[2:16:31] 25th. Um also the meeting that I

[2:16:35] typically participate in the by monthly

[2:16:39] Zoom meeting, elected leaders meeting,

[2:16:43] um June 12th, that also was cancelled.

[2:16:46] Um the next summer, huh?

[2:16:48] » That's what I said. It must be summer.

[2:16:49] The next meeting is uh in August. Um

[2:16:53] let's see. I think that's it. All

[2:16:57] right, Jane, anything?

[2:17:00] Christina,

[2:17:01] » Thank you. I attended the Hancock uh

[2:17:04] Hanok Scholarship Celebration. I think

[2:17:06] there's over 300 students receiving

[2:17:08] awards. It was really exciting to see

[2:17:10] them celebrate with their parents, have

[2:17:12] that conversation. I also attended

[2:17:14] cruise night in Santa Maria this past

[2:17:16] Friday. Um and then recently uh today I

[2:17:19] als um unfortunately saw a video of um

[2:17:22] Catholic charity workers from Guadalupe

[2:17:24] um unfortunately being revved up by ICE

[2:17:26] um officers at the jail and um it's

[2:17:30] unfortunate to just see that. Just

[2:17:31] wanted to share that. Thank you.

[2:17:35] uh dur during the the Memorial Day

[2:17:38] celebration, the

[2:17:41] the group took Post 371, American Legion

[2:17:45] Post 371 and Vienna Van Veterans 982.

[2:17:49] We we took over 40 chairs

[2:17:53] and then we actually had to double it

[2:17:54] because there were so many people that

[2:17:55] were there. So, it was a good it was a

[2:17:57] good turnout and Naros did provide the

[2:18:00] food. uh the the the group 371 and 982

[2:18:05] paid for it, but it was good good food.

[2:18:07] So, thank group for putting that

[2:18:09] together. So,

[2:18:11] do I hear a motion to adjurnn?

[2:18:15] » Jean,

[2:18:17] can I do a Jean?

[2:18:18] » Okay, I'll make a motion to adjurnn.

[2:18:20] » Is there a second? I'll

[2:18:22] » Second.

[2:18:23] » All those in favor of the motion say I.

[2:18:26] » Thank you, St. Thank you. 825.

[2:18:38] » I'm out of here. There.

City Council Meeting - May 26, 2026

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