[0:00] Okay. We're going to city council tonight. It's August 19, 6 o'clock p.m. I'll do roll call on my left.

[0:09] Donald Charles. Stella Hill. And Mike Warner, can pick it. And I think Brian Nelson is on his way. And I think Ron was going to join us from Zoom.

[0:18] I've asked Councilwoman Hill should do us our invocation.

[0:22] My

[0:25] father and him, secondly for this evening, we're very thankful for this now that we have

[0:35] been for the safety that we've had from the fires that have been going on.

[0:40] We're grateful for the rain that we've received.

[0:45] We're grateful to be able to serve here and to try to make good choices for our community.

[0:51] We also will be able to do that this evening as well because there's some issues.

[0:56] We thank the Heavenly Father for all of us that was given to us and we say these things and the new and Jesus Christ. Amen.

[1:03] All right, we're going to stand for the Legend of the Legion.

[1:07] Thank you.

[1:09] This is the flag of the United States of America.

[1:13] And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, one country, and the individual with liberty and justice for all.

[1:21] All right. Thank you. Do we have anything anybody here with the public forum not related

[1:31] to the public hearing? It wants to speak.

[1:36] Okay. All right. So we need to go into that

[1:41] public hearing and your motion. I know we've gone public hearing about partial right away

[1:49] We have a motion by Councilman Pickett, the second by Councilman Childs, Childs.

[1:56] Heal?

[1:57] Yes.

[1:58] Pickett?

[1:58] Yes.

[1:59] All right.

[1:59] We are in public hearing through the partial right-of-way vacation of 100 North.

[2:05] Dennis?

[2:05] Take over.

[2:08] They had a council that had this, while there were days in the past for a general discussion.

[2:15] Basically, they were looking at reservading the right way along 100 more.

[2:22] The original sitting plaque showed that the right way was under 9 feet wide.

[2:27] And, of course, over time, fence lines changed and made it in the right place at the beginning.

[2:35] and property lines are disputed.

[2:39] In this case, we're looking at one of our other public

[2:43] partners that we have in the community is the hospital.

[2:47] And they would like to expand their building

[2:50] into the North, in order to accommodate

[2:53] additional beds and services.

[2:56] In order to read that, the right-of-the-way line

[3:01] would need to be moved, essentially.

[3:03] And so what's being proposed is that the 99-foot rider

[3:10] by which short from the south to the north enough

[3:16] to accommodate the, it accommodates the hospital's expansion,

[3:22] but it also is more consistent with the improvements

[3:25] that have been made on that south side of the road.

[3:28] So that the rider by line would be approximately one foot

[3:33] behind the sidewalk that's existing, that one foot relationship is consistent with the city standards in all of our new developments now that we would have the property with right away one foot behind the sidewalk.

[3:50] And so, again, we're proposing to move the right away, going to the north, to be consistent with that one foot behind the sidewalk for most of this block.

[3:59] And it also does accommodate, as I said, the hospital being able to expand their building

[4:07] and increase their services in the community.

[4:12] Because we're modifying the city right away, state law requires that you have to have

[4:18] a public hearing.

[4:19] They see that the public is in the comments that they have and ultimately the council has

[4:25] I'll still talk about the ordinance approving the change,

[4:29] which is also under a gender later tonight.

[4:33] Okay, do we have anybody from the public here

[4:36] to speak about this subject?

[4:41] Come on in.

[4:44] Brian Nelson just walked in, six till four p.m.

[4:48] Anybody from the public?

[4:51] Okay.

[4:57] Then it's all pertinent, in fact.

[5:02] On that street, it only affects the hospital.

[5:06] It's a good point.

[5:07] The hospital owns all the facilities

[5:09] on the north and south, along this section of the road.

[5:15] Okay, you're all right.

[5:17] Motion, we'd have to go out public hearing

[5:18] and then later we'll make the motion.

[5:20] I think we have to leave it open.

[5:23] Oh, do we have to leave it open?

[5:24] No.

[5:24] No, nobody here to comment, so.

[5:26] Okay.

[5:28] Motion to close, right?

[5:30] I'll move.

[5:31] Can you have a motion by Councilman Pickett to close the public hearing?

[5:34] Do you have a second?

[5:37] Second by Councilman Hill.

[5:39] All in favor?

[5:40] Why?

[5:42] Do any of you roll call on them to go out?

[5:45] With this one, yes.

[5:47] Roll call on my left, Nelson?

[5:49] Yes.

[5:50] Childs?

[5:50] Yes.

[5:52] Pickett?

[5:52] Yes.

[5:53] Okay.

[5:53] Is it wrong on the presume?

[5:55] No.

[5:57] Okay.

[5:57] Okay, we're out of public hearing.

[6:02] Okay, so discussion, possible action items.

[6:05] I think the Tar Canyon subject will go into close session later for that.

[6:10] We have somebody here to discuss request for water service outside of city limits, Sam

[6:15] Mastis.

[6:16] Do you see your last thing?

[6:17] Yes.

[6:18] All right.

[6:19] Step up to the mic there.

[6:21] Hello, my name is Sam Mastis.

[6:22] I was just checking to see if I could hook onto the water.

[6:27] I own the property behind my own young.

[6:30] And we'd like to sell the property.

[6:34] And we're willing to surrender to water shares

[6:38] and also sign paper that says we're willing to annex

[6:42] in with the time comes and paper everything as well.

[6:50] So if you were given, if tonight we approved the extension,

[6:54] and you would put those improvements in before selling?

[6:57] Or I drove well.

[7:01] I'm sorry, did I hear you right?

[7:06] I'm asking, yeah, I'm asking, you want,

[7:08] you're here to request the line extension for water, right?

[7:12] Yes.

[7:12] Okay, I'm sorry, I have that hearing.

[7:14] Okay, so I apologize.

[7:15] And so what I'm asking is you had said

[7:18] that you would cover the cost of the improvements,

[7:21] would you cover that cost before selling the property

[7:24] or would that be passed on to whoever is still to?

[7:27] I'm not sure right now.

[7:29] OK, I guess it depends on the cost.

[7:32] OK.

[7:33] We have somebody that's supposed to give us a dead

[7:36] if they get to prove that they need to make a decision.

[7:39] OK.

[7:40] So where does it come from here?

[7:43] So on the screen, we're looking,

[7:46] this is the new dot shows on the east of highway by the night.

[7:51] and then you have blood, you know, this is blood in the shop.

[7:55] I mean, what's on the highway?

[7:57] The problem we're talking about is the ten acre piece of ground

[8:00] just north of what you're in the shop.

[8:04] So we have a water line that runs along the highway.

[8:11] And so there's a little bit of a stretch there

[8:14] to get any kind of water to this property.

[8:18] Ask the engineers if they had any comments on this.

[8:21] before tonight, the other response back from Kelly, he indicated that based on the state standards that we are now dealing with, that the pressure that he would have with this new one is not meet the state's minimum standards for pressure.

[8:40] and then in order to provide an order that they would have to basically extend the main up to this property and install a booster station to be the pressure standards that we now have to deal with.

[8:54] I know we have adopted with the JDR today, there is a service to, well I don't mean also a service, even though the home further to the north, but because we're not dealing with the standards, that's what I was just saying.

[9:09] you'd have to install a booster station and the state won't allow booster stations on

[9:15] quite a long time, so you have to stay in the main with a booster station to provide additional

[9:20] services in this area.

[9:25] I did not ask for a cost estimate for my range of years on that.

[9:33] So if you understand what Dennis just reported, kind of drives the cost up quite a bit.

[9:38] But yeah, I'm not quite sure what the cost will be.

[9:42] I guess you kind of weigh what the cost will go well compared to bringing all that in.

[9:49] And it's close.

[9:50] It's going to be one of these vaults that are into water.

[9:54] And I guess if you give me the standards you need, I can pass that on to the new owner.

[10:02] And we didn't purchase a little more land on that side too, so it's looking one and ten.

[10:06] I

[10:10] did talk to the trust lands, and they actually wanted maybe in the future to do some projects

[10:16] that I get later too, so I don't know.

[10:21] They would be interested in something.

[10:25] The trust lands are, they all...

[10:28] I also have an area available too that might help visualize a little better.

[10:34] So, you know, the trust lands, they are on north of this property we're talking about,

[10:39] basically all around the city,

[10:42] down there, down there, the city boundary is there,

[10:45] in a purple dash.

[10:47] So the trust land zones,

[10:50] this section of the wave on there in around that.

[10:55] And yes, there's been some interest expressed

[10:57] from trust land to eventually,

[10:59] we'd like to see some development happening up,

[11:03] and we can get it without a big deal.

[11:05] Okay, so the businesses that are there already?

[11:11] I have an area that has a lot of space and everything might be a little easier to visualize.

[11:18] Sure.

[11:20] You can rely on a virtual.

[11:22] If you'd like to stay there, still in my room.

[11:36] Yeah.

[11:37] Come on.

[11:39] I just want to say to you.

[11:49] Yes, yes, well, maybe here we go

[11:55] and we bought it from the trust plan.

[12:00] Yeah, and then we bought another little portion over there to my thought was, since our

[12:10] future growth there you know we would be willing to sign a paper that says when

[12:15] the town came in we'd annex into the city sterling is having a lot of

[12:19] problems right now because they're mismatched all over the place they want to

[12:23] annex up to the golf course but there's like two people that won't annex in and

[12:29] you can't have an island so it kind of messed up all their plans and with the

[12:34] trust lands you know they have some big plans that like to do back here you know

[12:40] thought it would make sense to try to work something out. Possibly, if it's not a big

[12:46] enough line, you know, maybe we could just do one service. And then that would, you

[12:52] know, get it in the city at least, because it's hard once you drill the well, whoever

[12:58] you sell it to, they may not want to annex, and it's, you know, that along the road, so

[13:03] But it would be difficult to annex anything behind it.

[13:13] So the wire has enough water for any of it?

[13:17] It has a surface, and of course, we recall in the exchange

[13:21] for the peacock springs property,

[13:23] we offer another surface out there in the morning.

[13:27] But again, we'll have to do some of the same issues.

[13:33] And I mean, worst case scenario, we could just

[13:35] do one small hookup with maybe a bond that maybe we each put a portion towards the station later.

[13:45] Sometimes they've done that, like the station's going to cost 100 grand. They say, okay,

[13:49] everybody that's going to hook on to it has to pay a $10,000 impact fee. And now I'm going to

[13:54] S-grow for the future. I'd be happy to do that.

[13:59] So who on earth now?

[14:00] Yes.

[14:05] No, we're planning on selling it.

[14:09] But I had some property in Sterling and I saw the mess they had down there.

[14:14] Right now they want to annex up to the golf course but there's two people that are stopping them

[14:20] because you can't have an island.

[14:23] So I just thought and I talked to the trust land people and they have big

[14:27] hopes to well my vision for it would be somebody like Lyle that would maybe

[14:36] build a house and maybe have their business there possibly I do have three

[14:48] shares of water I can surrender to the city

[15:02] So, just so the council knows where we're at, tonight with this, the, any service outside of the city of limits requires that the council ultimately has to approve an agreement with the proposing property owner of the outlines. Who's going to take care of what water is going to be rendered? Who's going to contain water in the current? Tonight is really just a, we'll fill this out so we get some direction from the council, what your thoughts on.

[15:32] on the city. It's not going to be approved and I just need to give the cast a

[15:37] direction.

[15:41] Well, and I'd be happy too to put some money in escrow that would go

[15:44] towards it, towards the pump station or whatever. A lot of cities have done that

[15:49] and you know as the people come up they pay their share.

[15:55] This is state and the state standard requires a certain pressure from the line.

[16:20] I did talk to Lyle and he said he'd go in on the pike with me.

[16:26] So, I mean, if you're going to get one from Lyall, it probably wouldn't make too much

[16:30] difference to go a little further, hopefully,

[16:35] you know, or I guess I could go in with Lyall

[16:38] on a pump station or whatever.

[16:42] Knowing that a pump station would be required, knowing the distance that the Lyall would have

[16:47] to be, would it make more sense to kind of get a cost estimate between that and, well,

[16:54] and decide if it's even worse than before we do some kind of an approval or direction.

[17:00] I mean I know like I don't know I just feel like I don't like what I don't like about it.

[17:05] I'm not voting member of this council but I don't like about it as the idea that we

[17:09] prove something for you and then you sell that to somebody else.

[17:12] I'd rather approve whoever owns the property is going to develop the property.

[17:16] That's just my opinion.

[17:17] I don't know if I can even legally say that.

[17:21] Well, and what we could do is we could do a letter of understanding that says, you know,

[17:26] the town is open for this, this is what they're looking for, and then the new buyer can

[17:32] know, okay, I can get water if I'm going to do it.

[17:35] And like you said, if you let one person, so like Lyle, you know, Lyle would have to do the

[17:42] same thing as well.

[17:50] But, you know, one thing the town can look at is, like, with Sterling, they're landlocked.

[17:56] Now, they can't go up in that golf course area, they're done.

[17:59] It's done.

[18:00] And that's what's going to happen back here, because you'll be landlocked.

[18:10] What do you guys think?

[18:11] What direction will it take?

[18:18] I mean, I guess whatever Lyle does, because he would have to put a pump station, is that

[18:22] correct?

[18:24] That's to be determined. We made an agreement with Lyle before realizing that so that might

[18:30] be a different discussion. But yeah, we're going to have to discuss with Lyle on that one.

[18:34] Maybe, you know, across my fingers, maybe it could be determined that we could look at it and

[18:40] do a small line. And then if the trust lens comes in, I mean, they've got hundreds of acres

[18:46] that they want to do commercial on, you know, we can do a letter of understanding that, hey,

[18:52] Okay, I'll pay my portion of the pump station,

[18:55] I'll pay his portion of the pump station,

[18:57] and then when the time comes for them

[18:59] to do the big project, they pay their portion.

[19:02] Your friends at the bond?

[19:04] I would put up the money,

[19:05] and I would surrender it to the town,

[19:07] and you guys can put it in escrow,

[19:10] and it can be put in escrow with understanding

[19:12] that this percentage of money goes towards that water.

[19:17] Or you can also use it for other infrastructure.

[19:20] If you feel like, hey, this $5 or $10,000 would be better used over here, that's okay.

[19:42] Oh, yeah.

[19:43] They've been long term maintenance.

[19:44] And obviously the damages won't come.

[19:47] For the state, you got to have two problems in there.

[19:53] The other concern would be just doing a small line doesn't really make sense because there's got to be some fire evidence out there.

[20:02] So if you're going to eventually be building a lot out there, there's got to be fire

[20:06] ahead.

[20:07] So we've got to run a line up there.

[20:11] It's got to be done.

[20:13] A small line doesn't fix the problem, I'm not sure.

[20:16] Well, you know, a bigger line isn't too much more than a small line.

[20:21] Most of your cost is an excavation.

[20:24] We could do the big line, you know, and we can have the section to where, hey, this is

[20:29] where the pump goes in the future, kind of managed planning.

[20:33] It's like, obviously, the booster station would have to be, you know, it's got to be a building,

[20:39] and it's got to be e-vision and all that.

[20:41] Like, it's not just slamming the pump in the line itself.

[20:46] Does Lyle have a firefighter?

[20:48] He's got one down below it, you know, right on the...

[20:52] Well, he doesn't have one at this property, but he has one on the road down here.

[20:58] Mr. Mayor, we know this is a request for a water supply.

[21:02] You know what that water supply is going to be used for?

[21:05] The City County still.

[21:07] Yeah.

[21:08] I kind of had that question, too, as it seems like we're...

[21:11] Even though we're not in our city, if anybody wants to extend in city limits,

[21:19] we require them to show us what they're going to do before we approve something like this.

[21:23] Well, and you could, you know,

[21:32] we would allow this, this, and this, you know, because a lot

[21:38] of it is just planning for the future, because like I said, it was sterling.

[21:42] They're landlocked now, and they're having huge problems.

[21:45] They've got two people that's tying them up, because they want annexed all the way to the

[21:49] love course and two people are holding the whole thing up.

[21:52] Yeah, but we don't really have that, I mean, us giving you approval for this doesn't solve

[21:56] that problem.

[21:57] So it really doesn't, it doesn't really make a difference right now.

[22:00] Well, I'd say and I could sign a paper that says I would guarantee to Annex.

[22:05] But we would have to Annex all this property over here.

[22:07] Yeah, till we get there.

[22:09] But it would be like for the future.

[22:10] Yeah.

[22:11] Yeah.

[22:12] Um, yeah, I was going to tell you I have further information.

[22:16] Okay.

[22:17] We have a motion by Councilman Nelson to table this so we have further information.

[22:22] What information would you like?

[22:24] Well, I'd like to know what works wise to be going to be used for.

[22:30] Well, it will be.

[22:33] Yeah.

[22:34] Yeah, I think we're moving something before we have it.

[22:38] And my thoughts are not even just a table, I'll probably reject it, because unless I know what it's for, to me I'm not going to make a vote to approve something, because I know what it's going to be.

[22:48] That's a good question to say.

[22:49] You know what I'm saying?

[22:50] Yes.

[22:50] I understand where you guys are coming from.

[22:53] And if we do what it was for?

[22:54] Sure.

[22:56] I would ask that maybe we have some guidance, so at least we can tell the new buyer they're open to this.

[23:05] this, if you do this, this, and this, it would still have to pass City Council.

[23:11] And then that way there's a good plan for growth.

[23:14] We can at least make an idea.

[23:17] I mean, if we drill a well, I don't think we can say if you do this, this, and this,

[23:24] with all the unknowns that are incorporated in it.

[23:26] I think the better response to the buyer is, is the city didn't say no.

[23:31] They said that they want to know what you're going to do before we extend the line and then we have to have those discussions

[23:36] and then you guys have to take the costs on of the pump station and how do you structure that as well?

[23:42] Sure, sure I understand and so I don't think it's a staunch no tonight. Sure. I mean it might be if you make that motion

[23:50] But what I'm saying is a new buyer that comes and says I want to develop a property just like lot of youngs and

[23:55] and they bring that back to this council,

[23:58] there might be a good chance that it could pass.

[24:00] I'm not speaking for the council,

[24:02] but just saying, but something that we know what's going on,

[24:05] we can't just say, you know,

[24:07] down an airport or this or that, the other.

[24:09] Sure.

[24:10] You know what I mean?

[24:11] I'm not opposed to it.

[24:12] Just something to think about.

[24:14] Well, outside to them, because I'm not opposed to that.

[24:16] Yeah.

[24:17] Yeah, just something to think about.

[24:20] If we did sell it, it actually wouldn't come back here.

[24:23] It would go to the county.

[24:24] Right.

[24:24] You would not even have a night. You wouldn't have any choice of what goes in there with anything and they've already said that if

[24:31] It's in the future growth plan. They will allow commercial

[24:37] So it won't come back here

[24:40] You won't have a choice of what it is if there's an option of possibly having some sort of water

[24:47] Then they would come back to you at that point and then you'd have a discussion you can say hey, we really don't want to see a

[24:54] You know blah blah blah here. We'd like to see this here and you'd have some leverage with the water

[25:01] But to be honest the county is still in their economic development

[25:05] They're trying to make more money for the county because they're short

[25:09] So they're going to start allowing people to go into the commercial areas that are in the buffer zone and they're in the future growth

[25:17] So it won't come back. You won't get a choice. I mean, I don't know if it matters

[25:22] but that's why I'm here you know to see what options there are so that I could pass

[25:27] that on to the new buyer I can tell him look the town doesn't want it drill well

[25:34] or mile has his well there he's looking on to city water he may just sell the

[25:38] well that's what I'm hoping. Well I'm with Councilman Nelson I don't think I

[25:42] I don't I don't think I'm against the line when we've always done that

[25:48] that's not city-limits and he has a while, sure.

[25:51] And so I'm not against that either,

[25:53] but to Nelson's point and his motion,

[25:55] I think we would probably want to table up

[25:58] until we have further information,

[25:59] what we're going to do.

[26:00] And obviously, also, for your sake,

[26:02] or the buyer's sake, is it worth the cost?

[26:04] Like it wouldn't be a move point

[26:06] because it may not be worth the cost

[26:07] to the developers and the persons of the property.

[26:10] But then so.

[26:11] So would you be opposed to having the originators

[26:13] Just do a quick estimate on what that might be,

[26:17] as far as war went across the off-cost facility.

[26:21] And it's unaccustomed to that work.

[26:24] I don't want to get a lot of money into someone

[26:26] else's project.

[26:28] Well, what's the cost?

[26:29] I'd be happier, you know?

[26:31] It shouldn't be too much.

[26:34] But I mean, I guess the reason I came

[26:37] is if there's not a chance of doing it,

[26:40] I was going to talk to Lyle and see

[26:42] he'd sell me as well because he's not going to need it anymore. So I guess one of the things to look

[26:51] at is do you want to have control of what goes behind that property in the future and do you want to

[26:58] have some control of what somebody puts in there? And you get the taxes. I think we're a long ways out

[27:04] from having control over that even if they come for an extension water line and still be up the county

[27:08] what goes there. Well I can choose to say no we're not going to give you water but we have very little

[27:14] control in the county what they decide to develop there. Well I'm just shooting.

[27:21] Okay we have a

[27:22] second by Councilwoman Hill. Councilor Nelson.

[27:29] I mean I'm right now because I'm concerned about

[27:33] adding a new pump station in our system if that's something that's even

[27:38] feasible and all these things so I mean we can put it on the table but I'm at

[27:42] this point in time with the information I'm getting that we both know but if

[27:48] you want to put it on the table for a while and you get back with this more

[27:51] information I won't care about. What's up my would propose is maybe we give them an

[27:56] hour to give us a rough estimate of what we're looking at and

[28:03] And Dennis can ask our city engineer what it would cost and then you can look if you

[28:08] want to cover that cost see what the actual cost of that would be that's why.

[28:11] And I have a thought that the trust lands may also possibly be open to go in on that.

[28:21] And that's again another point of discussion for you to bring back if we decide to table

[28:25] up.

[28:25] But I need to know if the motion is to table or reject.

[28:28] We can table up now.

[28:29] Okay. We have a second by Councilman Hill, the table of motion by Councilman Nielsen. We have any discussion by Council.

[28:35] Okay. Nielsen.

[28:37] Aye.

[28:38] Childs.

[28:39] Aye.

[28:39] Hill.

[28:40] Aye.

[28:41] Yes.

[28:41] Okay.

[28:42] Well, the table for now brings back some information.

[28:45] Visit with Dennis about our engineers' cost to give you that assessment if you want.

[28:49] Sure.

[28:50] And then yeah, bring it back.

[28:51] We'll discuss it further.

[28:52] Okay.

[28:54] Sounds good.

[28:54] Thanks, guys.

[28:59] Okay, on the resolution, the resolution 26, that's here in my designating authorized personnel

[29:04] managed to PTIF accounts.

[29:06] This is just something kind of some cleanup, existing staff that had access to his accounts

[29:12] and Dennis and Angela do not right now.

[29:20] And so we just basically, Dennis is proposing that we actually tie it to the position

[29:27] not the person and so it would be close to the City of Administrator City of

[29:30] Recorder City to be authorized to transact business with the state through

[29:34] these PTIF accounts. I'm not sure that's what it's about.

[29:39] I don't know what that means.

[29:40] Well, the position person, the person.

[29:42] Right. Well, and you have kind of both, but yeah.

[29:46] So, the PTIF accounts, the PTIF account is, it's a four by the state of the account,

[29:52] but we can have through the state and we have very

[29:56] very competitive interest for us and the state.

[30:00] Or, first, I have those accounts. They want to know who was authorized by the city to access those and administer those or set up permissions to see the information. And so we have currently passed

[30:16] That's the last treasure of the pastor's quarter or set up as the authorized people to see those accounts and well I call them up and I need to know what's going on and I said well you're not authorized to be on the account so they said that sort of request and said if we want change who's authorized to access that information will be part of that and we have to have the council adopt a resolution that I want anyone who is going to be from my city to be able to do that.

[30:46] I'm going to have to play the game.

[30:48] Is the state in charge of our money?

[30:53] There may be a lot of hard work about their PTIF accounts.

[30:58] We're investing in the Infantic account in proper pregnancy.

[31:05] I agree.

[31:07] We could earn less interest to grow something like that.

[31:26] Okay, so I think I heard a motion by Councilman Pickett. Did I not? Yes, you did.

[31:29] The motion by Councilman Pickett to approve ordinance 2026-09. Do we have a second?

[31:35] Second. Second. Second about Councilman Nielsen. Any other discussion? Pick it. Yes.

[31:42] Hill? Yes. Childs? Yes. Nielsen. Okay. Motion passes. Resolution 2026-09. Do I need to read it probably? Okay.

[31:52] All right. On the order of this 2026-04 partial vacation of 100 North, that's what we had the public hearing about. Now we can make a motion on that.

[32:00] I know that we had the partial vacation of one of the North.

[32:05] Okay, we have a motion by Councilman Pickett, do we have a second?

[32:08] Oh, sorry.

[32:09] Second by Councilman Childs, and then it's for ordinance 2026-05 vacation of partial 100 North

[32:17] right away.

[32:19] And Nelson.

[32:20] Yes.

[32:20] Childs?

[32:21] Yes.

[32:21] Hill?

[32:22] Yes.

[32:23] Pickett.

[32:23] Yes.

[32:24] Motion passes.

[32:25] Thank you.

[32:26] On to the minutes, August 5th, regular meeting.

[32:29] Anybody have a chance to look at that?

[32:31] We've

[32:41] seen you correction, but we're going to do it except the minutes.

[32:44] We have a motion by Councilman Nilsen to accept the minute.

[32:46] Second.

[32:46] Second by Councilman Pickett, all in favor?

[32:49] Aye.

[32:49] Any opposed?

[32:51] Any motion passes?

[32:52] Bills for periods ending, August 13th, 20th, 26th, totaling $127,553 of 17 cents.

[33:25] Okay, is that a motion?

[33:28] Motion by Councilman Hill to pay the bill. Second by Councilman Pickett.

[33:33] Oh, I'm sorry. Motion by Councilman Childs. Second by Councilman Pickett. Hill. Pickett.

[33:40] Yeah. Childs. Yeah. Okay, bills are paid.

[33:43] Do you have a question? Okay.

[33:49] Does she ask before she pays up?

[33:52] Yes.

[33:53] Yes, lots of questions.

[33:58] And so do I.

[34:01] And so do I every time I sign the check.

[34:05] And you sign the check.

[34:06] Somebody that was me, Donald, or Stella.

[34:09] A lot of times she brings it to me and all right.

[34:11] That's the last question you have.

[34:14] Can't we ask lots of questions?

[34:16] No.

[34:17] That's good to ask questions.

[34:21] Okay. Reports.

[34:24] Angela, do you have anything to report today?

[34:27] No? Okay. Thanks for all you do, JD.

[34:31] The only thing I have is that it's a well-update.

[34:34] They're done. They've produced it as long as they're going to produce it and

[34:41] I'm pumped heir to it.

[34:43] They're pretty well wrapped up in everything out of there.

[34:47] Doesn't sound like they will have a pump and be ready to test

[34:52] pump and to wink from Friday is the estimated day.

[34:58] Because when it was when they're going to get this up,

[35:00] they will probably not pump until probably Monday.

[35:05] So I'll be pumped.

[35:07] This is coming Monday.

[35:12] Oh, it's well out there.

[35:14] Yeah, I think things are going good. We had a little bit of a pick up, but you guys figured it out.

[35:22] Done it, Jiggy.

[35:23] Okay, let's call you guys or do until the guys think too. Zach, do you have anything with the fire department?

[35:30] I'm busy here.

[35:31] Yeah, lots of fires.

[35:33] Yeah, we've been hanging out in the grind for the last two weeks.

[35:37] We have two trucks over there. I'm not quite well fired.

[35:40] I had the water tender that was tight to the white mouth fire.

[35:46] I was over there with our brush company's state severity.

[35:51] So I was actually working through the state and not with the actual fire.

[35:58] But we, the water tender did 16 days and then we did 14 days over there.

[36:07] There's some good money in that, huh?

[36:10] Yeah.

[36:10] So yeah, there it is.

[36:13] So it's that we get through the department.

[36:16] And we yeah, we've been all the big ones essentially

[36:20] each other's here who is on cottonwoods on iron wood,

[36:25] iron wood, iron and cherry.

[36:28] Iron and cherry, yeah.

[36:30] We've been on all the big ones this year.

[36:33] Well we appreciate all you guys doing.

[36:35] And thanks for having us navigate through the firework season

[36:38] and decisions on that.

[36:40] I thought it went well.

[36:42] I mean, even the 24th, there was a handful of people

[36:44] to live, and we never had a college.

[36:46] Yeah, I think it went well, too.

[36:48] I think it was good.

[36:50] I think people understood the severity of the situation.

[36:56] Yeah, it's all good.

[36:57] I think it was a majority of individuals

[36:59] recognized that, for sure.

[37:02] And obviously, our biggest fear with the council,

[37:04] I mean, Mike was kind of informed.

[37:06] But our biggest concern wasn't necessarily starting big fires in our area in Gunnison,

[37:14] centerfield. Our basic concern was is that we would be around if a big fires go on.

[37:21] And if stuff started popping off and we needed to, if we was insoling a first or something,

[37:27] you know, just we were worried how stretched in, we were going to be at the time.

[37:31] Yeah, so that was a bigger concern than actual big fires.

[37:37] Yes.

[37:38] I'm not saying mine for New Year's Eve.

[37:40] Well, I was going to say Kim lit off twice as many on 24.

[37:43] So I don't let that happen anymore.

[37:45] New Year's Eve, right?

[37:47] I can do that, right?

[37:48] Yeah.

[37:48] I just know where it's going.

[37:49] You live in the city of Sydney.

[37:52] The city of Sydney.

[37:52] A lot of us absolutely.

[37:55] Well, again, wait.

[37:56] If I can do it, I'm sorry.

[37:57] Yeah.

[37:57] I just want to commend and thank the Fire Department,

[38:01] especially Zach.

[38:03] The water tender, you either have two or three people staff

[38:05] that burn around 16 days.

[38:08] So taking that time off or supporting the Fire Department

[38:11] for a deferred check, they'll get compensated of someone,

[38:14] but it's deferred, it's not now.

[38:16] It's really a hardship on them.

[38:18] And then Zach and Gailby, for the state to recognize the asset

[38:23] that we have at Edison Valley and put them on that

[38:25] that's a very good to support the minute County during that time is, shows a lot of faith in the department, they really are a great asset to our community and appreciate the work that you guys do.

[38:36] Amen to that.

[38:41] Thanks, Zach. All right, Dennis.

[38:43] Yes.

[38:46] Mary, we've included in your packet the financial statements for the country of July.

[38:52] I'm not going to show it, basically it's 8% over the year that was gone through and

[38:57] we're going to be basically, for our expenses and for revenues.

[39:03] To begin today, you might find a couple of others that seem off, for instance, the water fund

[39:11] is showing the negative running in the water line.

[39:15] And part of that is just some accounting of living things around between fiscal years.

[39:20] So that should be all taken care of with Gary and his team before the next month, with

[39:27] work and so on.

[39:28] But when we're all always trying to answer that again, the question is living now.

[39:33] The police department also included in the packet their monthly report, and so if you have

[39:42] any questions, I'm not going to leave to it.

[39:45] No.

[39:46] It's going to be better than the packet.

[39:47] Also, I have two.

[39:49] It was a separate fifth packet.

[39:50] You did send it?

[39:52] But we got it.

[39:53] No, we got it.

[39:54] I think so.

[39:57] We've had some conversations with the IT consultants.

[40:12] So we have questions with your city, you know, let us know, we'll try to get all out as well.

[40:20] The, just a quick question from our discussion of the last council meeting, do you have any, do you tell me the cities and towns conference?

[40:30] is scheduled for October 27th and 28th is a Tuesday Wednesday. I understand still

[40:37] that you weren't going to go now. Yeah. Okay, I think we're fine to go. We're on

[40:43] total scale. Yes, Brian. Probably not. What was the dates again?

[40:54] So, if you want to make this a step, follow it with the hand in this.

[41:00] Now, let us know if all the injuries are right.

[41:04] Usually, we'll go sleep or get a room for two nights.

[41:08] So, it will be Monday night, Tuesday night.

[41:11] So, you can be there first.

[41:12] I saw that.

[41:25] I think they're working on the harms of the seedlings as well, or do I think they're in

[41:36] the air?

[41:37] So you'll also see, if you have already, they've been starting to reach Skryte Main Street.

[41:44] They're going to extend the center of Trunkland from Shelley's all the way to 250 South.

[41:51] That's down.

[41:52] I use it today.

[41:55] Okay, great.

[41:56] It's good.

[41:58] You don't have to sit there.

[42:19] The limitation is that on parts of nature, you're not going to go to a really park on the

[42:24] or any more. And that's one reason why we eliminated the term in the older part of the Main Street, so we could preserve the parking on the side of the road in front of those businesses.

[42:38] There's still a tight shoulder at 300 south by the insurance building. It still accommodates about an eight and a half to nine foot wide shoulder, so you couldn't park there.

[43:12] I don't think it'll be all bad, I think it's a good thing.

[43:14] But all of the people I talked about, they're kind of very grateful for it, they don't

[43:19] like that when you check, they were really just a small hand, they were just glad to see it.

[43:26] They're driving engineers and they're saying engineers, that was their recognition.

[43:33] I should say, that was their recognition to do not have an illustration.

[43:38] I think that's all I've got.

[43:39] So I had over the course, I had somebody ask me about crosswalks, other than just in

[43:47] one place on the street, like when you've got just given me that choice too.

[43:54] You're not able to crosswalk pedestrian studies and based on the studies, that's doing

[44:09] and they came back and said we could qualify for one pedestrian crossing and that could either be at first south, or that's extra.

[44:20] And the discussion that he had to cancel the time was first south.

[44:24] And really, approving that was a stretch. Like they did really want to approve that.

[44:30] We kind of managed it all.

[44:36] Okay. Councilman Nelson, anything from you?

[44:40] No, I was going to brag on the fire department.

[44:43] Oh, the opportunity.

[44:44] Speaking of fire department, he did have one more thing.

[44:46] Yes.

[44:46] So the district has received all of those fire trucks.

[44:50] So like our new one, with that, the election for chairman of the district was

[45:00] Last week, and I am done as the chairman. So, I can politely step away from doing it again. So, who is it? It is Nick Lyons. Okay, he'll do a good job. Yeah. So, so I am no longer the chairman of the district anymore. So, but the trucks were completed. We're hoping our rest truck and the rest truck will be here shortly. But, yeah, that's a long time chairman anymore. Thanks for all your work on that, though.

[45:26] And then shout out to Councilman Bartholomew too on that. Sounds like he had a lot to do with how that came to play so

[45:42] I say it all the time we have I don't care anybody says the number one fire department, so

[45:48] We appreciate you

[45:51] Councilman Charles a.n.

[45:53] Still

[45:58] see the water people are going to be done. What do I say?

[46:03] They're done.

[46:05] What's up?

[46:07] As of today.

[46:10] I think in the morning, one of them was a clothing in the water in the morning.

[46:16] So it might be down once a day.

[46:24] Well, it was only in the 80s. I don't know if it was a day or two.

[46:26] They sure look to.

[46:30] In any case, then, but you wouldn't want to be the water.

[46:32] So if anybody know anybody who wants to water,

[46:34] I'm

[46:48] going to take care of that.

[46:49] So I said, we're not taking them down yet.

[46:54] I'm not the fare somehow.

[46:57] We can think about thinking we can think of someone

[46:59] I'd be

[47:03] willing to be that.

[47:04] What about anybody on your notification committee?

[47:07] I don't know, it's mostly ladies.

[47:12] I people know this water, one thing, but I'm not going to do it all.

[47:18] That's one thing.

[47:25] What is our water situation? We still okay?

[47:30] Two days a week?

[47:31] We're working out. Two days a week.

[47:33] You know, there's a lot of people. I won't say there's a lot. For a walk on Friday night or Saturday night.

[47:40] And there were three people on this side of the street on the island of the water in San Bernardino.

[47:52] I don't know. I don't know. Obviously we tried to, we tried to knock doors if we see something

[48:01] that's watered out of schedule and probably we put it out there a bunch and try to remind

[48:14] Do we have a clean-up date for a fall clean-up?

[48:19] Yes, sir.

[48:20] It's not over, but it's over.

[48:26] Okay, so we're taking care of the trees on the river walk.

[48:31] And the cemetery.

[48:33] And the cemetery.

[48:35] The wrong side is not the 10 view of the...

[48:38] Okay.

[48:39] So far, like the trees of your dad are just going to cut it down.

[48:45] Let's see what they do, because I still think someone looked at it and they sprout leaves.

[48:53] So I want you to make that coffee.

[49:02] Some of our plants look.

[49:05] Please go to the plant.

[49:06] We're going to plant them.

[49:07] We're just going to try these out for a minute here.

[49:09] Okay.

[49:11] one of them to replace probably next to go around, right?

[49:15] Okay.

[49:18] That's all.

[49:18] No, we're just giving the last one the life of these.

[49:22] Is that what we want?

[49:23] Okay.

[49:26] Is that it?

[49:28] Anything else?

[49:33] Okay.

[49:34] Thank you.

[49:36] Councilor.

[49:37] The only thing you do is I was on first north there.

[49:41] And we contacted that one home that kind of registered

[49:44] business out there on their car, I know they're still all there.

[49:49] Part out against the road.

[49:54] He's in flight for a home basic business license.

[49:58] So he would be able to plan information next week

[50:00] to ask for instructions about that.

[50:03] But it still shouldn't allow you to move in if it's this way.

[50:06] Because those are the safety issues that you can't see.

[50:08] 3P away from the ice wall.

[50:10] You know what I'm saying?

[50:11] Yeah.

[50:11] Right.

[50:12] So, yeah.

[50:14] But at least we're aggressive.

[50:15] I know that.

[50:16] I think that.

[50:16] Yeah.

[50:17] So, where the planning commission has been, what do you gain as many as business standards?

[50:22] And what's allowed and not allowed?

[50:25] The, technically, we could just say, we're not going to approve this until those new standards

[50:29] are adopted.

[50:32] And we believe it's that.

[50:33] But he's telling us that all of the vehicles are here, that he's not working.

[50:37] on outside customers vehicles that are all owned by him.

[50:44] I know at least they are already

[50:47] engaged with them once and based on what you told them, there's nothing close to

[50:53] for them to do. It really goes down to these home-based business standards that we have pending.

[51:02] Okay, I'm confused. That's damage-grade. Yeah, we're talking. I know what we're talking about there.

[51:10] It's happened through the road. All the vehicles, it's parked on the side of the road.

[51:15] Back behind the house that were being worked on.

[51:20] I think one of the attorneys who's going to jump to our list right now,

[51:24] of property.

[51:28] He's saying they're all personally interested.

[51:34] We're going to pursue other

[51:37] options as far as the truth this morning.

[51:41] Okay. Can't that put time to be here? Go from my back and we're going to my back here.

[51:45] If I want to.

[51:46] So what is it that's become a nuisance?

[51:52] A nuisance to me. I do right there.

[51:55] That's why I'm doing it.

[51:56] I think the biggest reason since it was around the town street, out of the street, if you drive by it and that tow truck that's sitting there now, is within or eat at the asphalt,

[52:10] pretty close.

[52:16] There were some, some would come into the zoning zone.

[52:19] Anything else, can you?

[52:22] Okay, sounds good. We do need to go in a close session to discuss the pending or recently

[52:29] in a litigation and purchase exchange or lease a real property. We need a motion.

[52:35] And then we move in a close session. A motion by Councilman Pickett. Second by Councilman

[52:40] Childs. Hill. Pickett. Childs. Nielsen? Yes.

[52:44] The time is 6.52 p.m.

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