[0:02] All right. Good evening and welcome to

[0:04] the Hansen Select Board meeting of

[0:06] August 11th, 2026.

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[0:31] >> Okay, we did pretty good tonight,

[0:32] people.

[0:34] >> We're coalesing. It's getting better.

[0:36] Okay,

[0:37] >> we still can't take it on the road, but

[0:39] we're doing better. Um, okay. Um, Mr.

[0:42] Heel. Uh, may I prevail upon you to read

[0:44] the public announcements of upcoming

[0:46] meetings?

[0:47] >> Yes, you may. Thank you, Madam Chair. We

[0:48] are looking for citizens at large to

[0:50] become members of the following

[0:51] committees. The bylaw committee, which

[0:53] is a three-year term with three openings

[0:55] available out of five. The cable and

[0:58] internet committee is a three-year term

[1:00] with three openings available out of

[1:01] five.

[1:03] The capital improvement committee is a

[1:06] three-year term with one opening

[1:08] available out of five. The energy

[1:10] committee is an annual committee annual

[1:12] position with two openings available out

[1:14] of five.

[1:16] Um the historical commission is a

[1:18] three-year term with one opening

[1:21] available out of six. The memorial day

[1:23] and patriotics observance committee is

[1:25] an annual term with one opening

[1:27] available out of five. And the zoning

[1:29] board of appeals is a three-year term

[1:31] with one opening available out of three.

[1:34] Volunteer applications may be found at

[1:35] the town website www.hansen-m

[1:38] hansen-mass.gov

[1:40] or by calling the select boards office

[1:41] at 781-2932131.

[1:45] The early voting hours will begin

[1:48] Saturday, August 23rd 22nd and continue

[1:52] through Thursday, August

[1:54] 27th, 2026 for the state primary

[1:57] election on Tuesday, se September 1st,

[2:00] 2026. Early voting can be done in person

[2:03] at the town hall, 542 Liberty Street, on

[2:07] Saturday, August 22nd, from 9:00 a.m. to

[2:10] 3:00 p.m. Monday, August 24th from 9:00

[2:13] a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Tuesday, August 25th

[2:16] from 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Wednesday,

[2:19] August 26th from 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.

[2:23] and Thursday, August 27th from 9:00 a.m.

[2:26] to 4 p.m. Hansen Day will return on

[2:29] Saturday, September 19th from 10:00 a.m.

[2:32] to 2:00 p.m. at the Indian Heads

[2:35] Elementary School with a rain date of

[2:37] September 26th. This free familyfriendly

[2:41] community event will bring together

[2:43] local businesses, performers,

[2:45] organizations, animals, activities, and

[2:48] plenty of opportunity for residents to

[2:50] connect and enjoy the day. Um upcoming

[2:53] select board meetings are September 1st,

[2:55] 2026 and September 8th, 2026.

[2:59] >> Amazing. Well done, sir. Um and um so

[3:03] first up on our agenda would, as I

[3:05] mentioned earlier, take some items out

[3:07] of order. Um and so first up, we have

[3:10] the Mccoan school makeover. Really, it's

[3:13] the Mccoan school property makeover

[3:16] because it's far too late for us to do a

[3:19] makeover on Muan School. Um so um so uh

[3:25] with us we have John Toms who is a

[3:27] business owner and also a resident um in

[3:30] Hansen and of course we have our

[3:32] esteemed town planner um Tony DeFry. So

[3:35] I was wondering if you judge would mind

[3:37] joining me. I know um as you guys will

[3:40] recall we had a very generous offer from

[3:42] Mr. Toms to do some work um at the

[3:45] former Mccoan pro um Mccoan school

[3:48] property. Um and he has been speaking

[3:51] with um our town planner to try to

[3:54] coordinate his efforts with the efforts

[3:57] that Tony um our town planner is putting

[3:59] forward to establish a um

[4:04] clean and accessible um and modern

[4:08] >> um playground at Mccoin um as well

[4:12] through CPC funding. So um why don't we

[4:15] start with you Mr. Defus and maybe can

[4:18] kind of jump start us and then we'll

[4:19] have Mr. Toms uh jump in.

[4:21] >> Uh sure. So, as you're aware, the

[4:24] obviously the Quan School is gone. Um

[4:27] it's a it's a bit sad looking property

[4:29] at the moment. We have a plan for the

[4:32] site. There's a couple different things.

[4:34] Obviously, the library, uh potential

[4:36] future fire station, obviously potential

[4:38] also future maybe fields out there. But

[4:41] in the interim, we one of the things

[4:43] we're doing is um with working with the

[4:45] CPC to gain funding to move the

[4:47] playground that's there closer to the

[4:49] street to create a a nice new playground

[4:51] area uh that's easier to access, has new

[4:55] equipment, we can put lighting,

[4:57] security, and prevent vandalism. Uh Mr.

[5:00] Tom's uh

[5:02] he's sort of on a similar track. Uh so

[5:05] we've come up we sort of met and he's

[5:07] looking to offer and I'll let him speak

[5:10] is labor and uh materials to sort of

[5:14] improve the site as it is.

[5:15] >> Well, first off, thank you so much for

[5:17] coming and um I just want to express our

[5:20] sincere gratitude um that you're

[5:23] stepping up in the way that you are um

[5:25] and offering um services and offering to

[5:28] help us spiff things up at Mccoin

[5:30] because it's long overdue. Um we're

[5:33] eternally grateful and we really

[5:35] appreciate it.

[5:36] >> Wonderful.

[5:36] >> Welcome. Thank you,

[5:38] >> Madam Chair. the my father we I was born

[5:43] and raised in Hansen up on drive and

[5:45] back in the 70s I don't know if you all

[5:47] know this but he was he worked for motor

[5:49] roller for the time and he got the first

[5:53] frequency in two-way radio and did

[5:55] Hansen ambulance

[5:56] >> wow

[5:57] >> so it was his way to give back to the

[5:59] community and I guess this is my way to

[6:01] give back to the community um I've been

[6:05] in the hospitality

[6:07] comm construction business for 40

[6:10] something years now for uh as long as I

[6:12] can remember and I thought why don't we

[6:16] do something here it won't take much

[6:18] have a lot of contacts over the years is

[6:21] a great town I bought my parents house I

[6:23] live there now I've raised my three kids

[6:25] there all went through the Hansen

[6:27] schools um so they like to see something

[6:31] too and talking with Tony you know he

[6:34] showed me the the phases and I I think

[6:38] our elders in the library uh deserve

[6:41] this as well. Um it'll go it'll

[6:46] um combined with the plans of future

[6:49] >> uh have a walking track around it. Uh

[6:51] everything else. So I think this it's already well on its way. I talked

[6:56] to some people and they already said

[6:58] they'd love to to see it done and they

[7:00] stepped up. Madona landscaping my

[7:03] neighbor Hansen business said absolutely

[7:06] he'll provide a patio uh 20 by 30 maybe

[7:10] even larger. Um Bay State Seal Coating

[7:14] Kent Casey I went to high school with he

[7:16] says whatever you want just let me know

[7:18] when the construction is all done he'll

[7:20] take care of it. Um Wind's family he's

[7:22] actually my son-in-law he said

[7:25] absolutely. Well he works in a metal

[7:27] department for QXO. is just let me know

[7:30] and what colors that you're you're

[7:32] thinking about and we'll put a nice

[7:34] metal roof on that.

[7:35] >> Okay, that's amazing. So, let's make

[7:37] sure as we're going through you've got

[7:39] to work through Lisa because we have to

[7:41] accept donations. It's a very formal

[7:43] process otherwise it looks like it's an

[7:45] ethics violation and we definitely

[7:47] don't, you know, we don't want that no

[7:48] good deed goes unpunished. Um why don't

[7:50] you tell us a little bit about your plan

[7:53] and I know one question that um has come

[7:55] up and it even just came up today.

[7:57] Somebody asked me like, "Oh, I thought

[7:58] we were going to put the fire station

[7:59] there." No, what we said was we're

[8:03] saving that piece of property, the back

[8:05] piece of it, in case at some point in

[8:09] the future we need to do something with

[8:12] our firehouse. Now, we probably are

[8:14] going to have to do something with our

[8:15] firehouse, but what our current chief

[8:16] didn't want to happen was that that

[8:19] genie was let out of the bottle and

[8:20] something else happened with that

[8:22] property and then we weren't ever able

[8:23] to do anything with it. So, it's sort of

[8:25] like um a holding pattern on the back

[8:27] piece, but the front piece, all bets are

[8:30] off. We So, I just wanted to make sure

[8:32] because I know I just literally just got

[8:34] an email like a half an hour ago from

[8:36] somebody saying, "Oh my god, I thought

[8:38] we were going to put the firehouse

[8:38] there."

[8:39] >> Tony actually, he made that perfectly

[8:40] clear.

[8:41] >> And so, what I did is uh Marcelo

[8:44] Mandanka and myself went down on Sunday.

[8:45] He took his drone, flew it over so we

[8:48] could put the the it in perspective for everybody here today. the two

[8:53] pictures at the bottom, the one on the

[8:54] left is the right now and then the one

[8:57] on the right you can see where the

[9:00] entrance of McQuan school I guess if you

[9:02] knew it um

[9:04] >> that would be tucked away in that corner

[9:06] um that Tony designated as

[9:09] okay to put this up and again I always

[9:13] just wanted to clean it up look sharp

[9:15] nothing's permanent it could always be

[9:17] taken down and and whatnot but

[9:21] um You all know John Curry. He was my my

[9:25] personal friend.

[9:26] >> That's um Melissa Belovic's dad.

[9:29] >> Yeah.

[9:33] » He recently passed in April. So I

[9:36] thought it would be cool for that stage

[9:39] to be kind of in his remembrance. I

[9:41] haven't talked to Donna um his wife, but

[9:45] just a little something to give back as

[9:46] well.

[9:46] >> That would be lovely. Yeah. He he was a

[9:48] lovely man. He did a lot for the town.

[9:50] >> He did. Yeah. Exactly.

[9:52] And um I was in the third grade when

[9:54] Ruth Masses was murdered in in

[9:58] Miles Standish and there was a Memorial

[10:00] Day. Antony told me they moved it over

[10:02] to Indian Head. But um

[10:05] she lived across the street from me and

[10:07] I grew up with her daughter. So that

[10:09] would that that whole scenario is pretty

[10:10] close to myself too.

[10:12] >> So it has kind of a personal touch to me

[10:14] as well.

[10:15] >> Um

[10:16] >> the timeline I also attached a timeline

[10:18] for everybody to take a look at in 20 He

[10:21] said it looks um looked good as far as

[10:24] he was concerned.

[10:25] >> Yeah. I mean um as I explained to

[10:28] >> I know time is kind of the essence when

[10:30] you're doing some of the landscaping

[10:32] stuff.

[10:32] >> Yeah. I I I had said to John I said you

[10:34] know

[10:36] he's he'd go hog wild and this place

[10:38] would look fantastic. Um, of course we

[10:40] have some plans, but I said look, when

[10:42] we we're going to do the playground, so

[10:44] some of the highscape you're proposing,

[10:46] that'd be good to kind of go with that.

[10:48] >> And but the remaining of let's say

[10:51] graded off uh lmen seated and make it

[10:56] like a nice giant clean level field of

[10:59] grass that can be mowed and used by the

[11:01] public is a great idea. You know,

[11:04] obviously we don't want to get I don't

[11:05] want to see him go crazy where something

[11:08] gets in the way and we go, "Oh, that now

[11:10] we got to remove it." You know, I don't

[11:12] want to see things I I'd like to have

[11:14] when he's done that it stays. It's

[11:16] permanent. It's we're not going to have

[11:18] to move it because it's it's in the way

[11:19] of something like that. So, um

[11:21] >> I think it's great because aside from

[11:23] even just the like having a place for

[11:25] people to congregate if you know their

[11:27] children are on the playground. Um I

[11:30] think it's great because a lot of times

[11:32] we you know we have like say Hansen

[11:34] Historical Society wants to have like

[11:36] some type of an outdoor event or anybody

[11:38] really wants to have some kind of an

[11:40] outdoor event. Right now you're kind of

[11:42] taking your life in your hands like

[11:43] you're going to twist an ankle there if

[11:45] you do going over that parking lot. Um,

[11:47] and that is not meant to encourage

[11:49] people to go out there and twist their

[11:50] ankle and sue the town. Um, so um, you

[11:53] know,

[11:53] >> I think it'll be I think it' be great

[11:54] improvements to what you're saying,

[11:55] Madam Chair. This would be great

[11:57] improvements. Uh, the fact of, you know,

[11:59] uh, seal coating the the parking area

[12:02] that would make it look a 100 times

[12:03] better. It will protect it for the long

[12:06] term. Um,

[12:07] >> now if they seal coat, are they going

[12:08] to, and this is just my ignorance, so

[12:10] I'm sorry if this is so obvious and

[12:12] everybody else knows it, but they're not

[12:14] going to just slap seal coat like will

[12:16] they do a little grading of it to kind

[12:18] of get it even like will not have a

[12:20] bumpy seal coated?

[12:22] >> Well,

[12:24] it's kind of it's kind of make it look

[12:26] pretty. It's not It's not like a what

[12:27] they call a mill where you take off the

[12:30] top coat.

[12:30] >> That was what I was visualizing. Okay,

[12:32] >> that's a little more. This is more like,

[12:34] you know, think of it giving a good

[12:35] solid

[12:36] >> paint job and restriping so it looks

[12:38] better than what it does.

[12:39] >> Okay. All right.

[12:40] >> You know,

[12:41] >> it'll protect it for so in the long run.

[12:43] >> Yeah.

[12:44] There's a there's a cone there now

[12:46] with the drain. That's that's a

[12:48] liability. And

[12:49] >> yes, it's very attractive right now.

[12:51] >> A little something around that, but

[12:52] allow the water to go down inside that,

[12:54] too. So,

[12:54] >> okay.

[12:55] >> Yeah.

[12:55] >> The water and that type of stuff has as

[12:57] a concern for me. Are we leaving the set

[13:00] the like when we redo this area or

[13:02] somebody redo the area,

[13:05] there's going to be a plan for drainage

[13:07] and all the rest. Is that going to

[13:09] change this? Like or are we are we

[13:11] anticipating what might be done and what

[13:14] might be needed for water drainage? Are

[13:16] we just leaving it the same and hoping

[13:18] for the best?

[13:19] >> Are you saying anticipating like if

[13:22] Robbie does something with it for the

[13:24] fire? if anybody does if if Robbie or

[13:27] XYZ comes in.

[13:28] >> I don't think we're getting to that cuz

[13:29] we're really because the list of

[13:31] possibilities would be endless about

[13:32] what might be worried. But definitely we

[13:35] will take into consideration the

[13:37] playground.

[13:38] >> Yeah, the play the playground's going to

[13:39] go by the street and then that'll get

[13:41] engineered and this is more like so what

[13:44] you see like he says on the left there,

[13:46] think of it as redoing your yard. If

[13:48] your yard looked like that, you bring in

[13:49] lom and seed. You kind of level things

[13:51] out. You spread you spread some seed

[13:53] down. You get a nice lawn going. And

[13:55] then you have so you have a nice flat

[13:57] field, a flat surface. It's not bumpy

[13:59] and people can go out there, you know,

[14:00] play frisbee. We could have hands.

[14:02] >> I guess my concern is somebody comes out

[14:03] and says, "Oh, it really should be a

[14:05] foot higher or it's 6 in higher or 6 in

[14:07] lower." What does that do

[14:11] >> to this that we've already done this

[14:12] work with when we don't know? Well, as

[14:14] he said that he's doing stuff that he's

[14:17] okay that if at some point in the future

[14:19] we have to disturb it or redo it like

[14:21] he's going in eyes wide open, you know,

[14:24] he understands that. Um, we're saying

[14:27] it's temporary, but you know how town

[14:29] government moves. We'll still be talking

[14:31] about this 30 years from now. It'll be

[14:33] still there. So,

[14:34] >> it's it's a beautifification.

[14:35] >> Yeah. At least.

[14:36] >> No, no, this is definitely a

[14:37] beautifification.

[14:38] >> Pretty, you know, attractive. Right now,

[14:40] it looks like a running field.

[14:41] >> Exactly. So, so that is that's so I have

[14:44] a couple questions and first and

[14:45] foremost, thank thank you for this. This

[14:47] is this is amazing. Thank you for doing

[14:49] all of this. Um, I too worked with John

[14:52] for a very very long time. So,

[14:53] sentiments the same. I was on the

[14:55] capital improvement committee with him

[14:56] and he used to come in with these little

[14:58] >> uh fruit snack things all the time.

[15:00] Loved it. Absolutely loved it.

[15:02] >> So, um

[15:04] >> he and he used to eat them all too. He

[15:05] brought them for everybody, but he'd eat

[15:06] them all himself. Um, so I I I just have

[15:11] technical questions just based off of uh

[15:13] probably coming from a place of

[15:15] ignorance, just based off of um other

[15:17] projects that are similar. Um, but the

[15:20] use of volunteers for

[15:23] the development of property and and all

[15:26] of that cuz I've been in situations

[15:29] before where we've tried to utilize or

[15:30] get donations from folks like yourself

[15:33] that were roadblocked because we were

[15:35] told that we couldn't use donations cuz

[15:37] there was like prevailing wage issues

[15:39] and liability issues and stuff like

[15:41] that. I'm totally open to the idea that

[15:43] all of that was misinformation. And I am

[15:45] following up with saying I'm sure before

[15:48] it even gets to us that all of those

[15:49] boxes have been checked. But I do

[15:52] >> want to say it out loud just for the

[15:53] sake of just asking cuz I just need to

[15:55] know for my own self uh for other

[15:58] projects moving forward. Uh was it

[16:01] misinformation in the past and or if not

[16:04] what separates this from something else?

[16:06] So that way we can utilize other folks

[16:08] good fortune and uh selflessness for the

[16:12] future because Camp Cam Kowani was a big

[16:13] one back at like 10 years ago where we

[16:15] were trying to like work on things and

[16:17] they said no. This is before most

[16:18] people's time.

[16:20] >> But I'm just

[16:21] >> It depends. If it was something that

[16:23] required licenses um and people were

[16:26] well-intentioned but not licensed in it,

[16:28] then they wouldn't have been permitted

[16:29] to do it. Um this um we did check with

[16:32] Kate um as soon as Mr. Toms reached out

[16:35] uh cuz I was a little like oh were you

[16:37] even able to to do this and I had the

[16:39] same question not necessarily about

[16:41] prevailing wage I was concerned was this

[16:44] going to be a problem with the union

[16:45] >> well that's what it was it was union

[16:47] stuff it was prevailing wage stuff it

[16:48] was the appropriate three bids type of

[16:51] thing

[16:51] >> that we are absolutely able to accept

[16:53] donations of um labor and materials

[16:57] there's no problem and that we should

[16:59] have any volunteer doing um the work

[17:02] sign a waiver and that was It's as

[17:04] simple as that.

[17:05] >> That's all she said.

[17:06] >> Okay. Yep.

[17:07] >> Okay, that's good to know. And then um

[17:10] in terms of if anybody gets hurt or

[17:12] anything along those lines based on the

[17:13] work that was that was done, like who

[17:16] signs off on the work at the end of the

[17:17] day?

[17:17] >> Oh, well, it would be our normal

[17:19] process, you know.

[17:20] >> Okay. So, we can still go through the

[17:20] normal process and all of that other

[17:22] stuff. We don't wave any like if it's

[17:24] you know um I mean it would be our

[17:26] building commissioner even though it's

[17:28] not building but like you know and would

[17:30] obviously want like anybody in the land

[17:32] use boards to like if conservation feels

[17:34] like they need to you know chime in and

[17:36] you know like all of those guys.

[17:38] >> Okay. Okay.

[17:39] >> Yeah.

[17:40] >> That's really my only um my and then the

[17:42] I guess the other thing is um for just

[17:44] maintenance of the property cuz now was

[17:46] obviously not being maintained at all.

[17:47] So once it becomes beautified, who who

[17:51] mows it? Is that going to be the highway

[17:53] department?

[17:54] >> Yep.

[17:54] >> We already have that budget.

[17:55] >> Yeah. I mean, technically they do mow it

[17:58] now. It's just not great.

[18:00] >> Well, now they're going to be doing it

[18:02] not on they're going to be doing it to make it still look good, not just

[18:05] going over dirt.

[18:07] >> So So it sounds like all the all the the tees were crossed. So I just that it

[18:12] would be foolish for me not to at least

[18:13] ask it out loud. So I do appreciate

[18:15] that.

[18:16] Um, did anybody else have any?

[18:18] >> I have three totally unrelated things. I I see solar powered and I see Wi-Fi

[18:23] surveillance camera. Are those the same

[18:25] thing? Is it or is something else solar

[18:27] powered?

[18:28] >> It's It's the same thing. Solar powered

[18:29] Wi-Fi.

[18:30] >> So that Okay. And then you talk about a

[18:33] stage. I don't see it in the picture.

[18:35] Where's the stage going to go?

[18:37] >> It's hard to see in a picture. I'll have

[18:38] to email you uh a picture, but it's it's

[18:42] in the corner

[18:44] >> of the pavilion.

[18:45] >> Oh, I see. Yeah, in the top right of

[18:47] that pad.

[18:47] >> It's a 12 by 14 stage with a a cover

[18:51] over it. We'll have two doors in the

[18:52] back in case the little ones want to put

[18:54] on some sort of

[18:55] >> So, people will sit on chairs on the

[18:57] patio or something and all that.

[18:59] >> Uh Jim Hickeyi uh volunteered to build

[19:01] some benches for us place around.

[19:04] >> He makes nice benches. We we have a

[19:06] >> we have a similar themed

[19:09] area proposed for the high street park.

[19:12] >> Oh, good.

[19:13] >> Great. And then my only other thing is

[19:15] that the the Hansen Preservation or the

[19:18] town of Hansen, the two different names

[19:20] to make ch Does that exist? Hansen

[19:22] Preservation. Hansen. Yeah.

[19:24] Preservation.

[19:26] >> If someone was to make a check out to

[19:27] that.

[19:28] >> What is Who was Hansen Preservation?

[19:30] >> Uh I'm sorry. I think it's the PCC.

[19:33] Yeah, it's the middle of the

[19:35] >> flush pres.

[19:37] >> I also Well, okay. We need to flush that

[19:40] one out. I'm not sure that the checks

[19:43] could be made payable to Hans.

[19:46] >> I've just seen this tonight.

[19:47] >> Oh. Oh, okay. All right. Hansen

[19:49] Community Preservation is definitely um

[19:52] who Mr. Defias is working with on the

[19:55] playground piece of it. Um but they have

[19:58] um it's a very unusual arrangement. It's

[20:00] a very specialized account. um they're

[20:03] not really set up to take funds in.

[20:07] Okay.

[20:07] >> Um so um I think we'll have to flush

[20:10] that out with with our town accountant

[20:11] and with Miss Green and figure out

[20:14] exactly to whom it's probably um to the

[20:18] town of Hansen. Um and then we're just

[20:20] going to have to keep ourselves um you

[20:23] know keep ourselves honest about

[20:25] allocating that to a particular uh use.

[20:28] Um, so there are rules of engagement

[20:30] around that and Miss Green is our

[20:32] procurement officer, so she'll gatekeep

[20:34] on that.

[20:36] >> So before anything gets used, we do have

[20:38] to accept them individually as gifts,

[20:40] right? We can't just take a blanket

[20:42] donation.

[20:43] >> Correct.

[20:43] >> We need to know like um

[20:45] >> yeah, everything has to follow a very

[20:47] slow step.

[20:49] >> Work with you on on that. So like for

[20:51] instance, Miss Green is our town

[20:53] administrator. Um, and so for instance,

[20:56] if you say, "Oh, um, the I'm making this

[20:59] up like I'm totally spitballing, but if

[21:00] you say, oh, the, um, you know, pavilion

[21:03] is worth $25,000 and so and so is

[21:06] donating the time and material to do

[21:09] that, then we have to say, okay, we're

[21:12] going to accept the U pavilion worth

[21:14] $25,000 from so- and so." Like, we we've

[21:17] got to really keep track of that stuff.

[21:18] So, Miss Green, again, we'll work with

[21:20] you on it. Do you need something from

[21:22] the company or in an email for Well, we

[21:25] can talk.

[21:25] >> Yeah.

[21:25] Yeah. Okay. Definitely. I

[21:27] >> I guess I guess conceptually, does

[21:30] anybody have a problem with this?

[21:33] Obviously, there's a lot of nuts and

[21:34] bolts here and miss, you know, we'll

[21:36] have to lean on Miss Green to work that

[21:39] out.

[21:39] >> I just want to know about the uh just

[21:41] the minutiae of it just just so we're

[21:43] all on the straight now and he doesn't

[21:44] get roadblocked. That's all.

[21:45] >> I mean, this we're not meeting before

[21:47] the week of August 22nd, 2028. Do we

[21:50] have to have some kind of a vote um to

[21:54] direct the Hansen DPW to initiate this

[21:58] work?

[21:58] >> Um have we talked to Rich?

[22:01] >> Uh I have not had an opportunity, but I

[22:03] can talk to him tomorrow.

[22:04] >> Okay. Um I mean Rich has said in the

[22:07] email that you guys all got that he's

[22:08] feeling like he's in a good place to

[22:10] take on additional work. I don't know

[22:12] what his particular plans are for that

[22:13] week. Um but um yeah, if you could kind

[22:17] of um broker that a little bit and um

[22:20] work Mr. Toms and um with um with Rich

[22:25] >> August is going fast.

[22:26] >> Rich Jasmine. Um and I wish we had a

[22:29] DPW, but we don't. We've only got

[22:31] highway. Um so um these guys, the

[22:34] highway department, um are the ones that

[22:36] we'll be working on. Um so don't be a

[22:39] hater out there if you don't like DPW.

[22:41] Um okay. Um, so, um,

[22:45] I I mean probably you're just saying

[22:47] remove weeds, overgrowth, debris, un

[22:50] unwanted material. I I don't think

[22:52] that's going to be a problem. Um, I I in

[22:55] on a separate note um but somewhat

[22:58] related. I had talked to um

[23:02] uh Gilamato, our health agent, um when

[23:05] Mr. Jasmine had some other stuff he

[23:07] needed to remove from that property. And

[23:10] Gil told me that as long as um you know

[23:13] Rich contacts him, most of the

[23:16] materials, if they're able to be

[23:17] disposed of, could be disposed at the

[23:20] transfer station. But again, he just

[23:22] needs to reach out and communicate. So,

[23:24] which makes sense because it is town

[23:25] owned, but we just want to, you know,

[23:27] make sure we're we're involving

[23:29] everybody that needs to.

[23:30] >> I just don't want to slow anything down.

[23:32] There's something here that we need to

[23:33] like the boom delivery is a that's a

[23:35] donation,

[23:36] >> right? to just vote.

[23:37] >> So I think yes, what I think we should

[23:39] do is take a contingent vote saying that

[23:43] contingent upon Miss Green working with

[23:46] Mr. Toms to timely get um these for

[23:50] instance like we don't know the dollar

[23:52] amount of the loan to be delivered and

[23:54] donated, but we can still take a vote

[23:56] that as long as it meets the procurement

[23:58] requirements set out by Miss Green that

[24:01] in concept we're willing to accept that

[24:03] donation. And we can also take a vote um

[24:06] that we um would like to have Mr.

[24:09] DeFryas work with um Mr. Jasmine um to

[24:13] see if the um highway department can do

[24:16] the work that's described here. We can

[24:18] take that vote.

[24:18] >> Okay.

[24:19] >> So I move that we

[24:20] >> Amazing. That's amazing. Um second.

[24:23] >> Okay. Great. Um uh any further questions

[24:25] for Mr. Toms? Okay. Um all in favor?

[24:29] Amazing. Did you have anything else you

[24:31] wanted to tell us? Anything else you

[24:33] want to give us?

[24:35] >> You know, I just have to say,

[24:38] >> you know, that that he's your guy. This

[24:41] is the guy right down there at the end

[24:43] of my that's going to be a bottomless

[24:45] pit. We we could we could use so much

[24:48] help on that. Um that's great. And um

[24:51] again, I can't tell you how meaningful

[24:54] this is. A lot of times, you know, um we did run for this role. We were

[25:00] elected. Um but a lot of times it sort

[25:02] of feels like hello out there. Is

[25:04] anybody out there? Um and it's really um

[25:07] heartening when somebody steps forward

[25:09] and supports, you know, the effort. So

[25:11] we really thank you.

[25:12] >> You're welcome.

[25:13] >> Thank you very much.

[25:14] >> Thank you.

[25:15] >> Yeah, the timing is great with uh moving

[25:17] the playground over.

[25:18] >> Yeah, it was perfect. And thank you, Mr.

[25:20] Defers, for all that you do, but

[25:22] coordinating this as well. Thank you.

[25:24] >> You're welcome.

[25:25] >> All right. Thanks.

[25:26] >> Thank you.

[25:26] >> All right.

[25:27] >> Thanks.

[25:27] >> Thank you.

[25:28] >> Appreciate it. Thank you very much.

[25:30] >> Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

[25:32] >> Take care and thank you.

[25:35] >> Thank you so much.

[25:37] >> We should go make an appointment.

[25:40] >> Pleasure.

[25:44] » Okay. And I'll send you an email.

[25:46] >> Excellent.

[25:48] >> All right. Thank you, Mr. and Mrs.

[25:50] Thompson. Take care. It gives you

[25:52] something fun. All right. Eric Dresser.

[25:57] And we've got Whitman Hampton Community

[25:59] Access Television uh director Eric

[26:02] Dresser with us. Deja April. Eric.

[26:03] >> Yeah, Dave.

[26:04] >> Um

[26:05] >> and thank you for taking me out of order

[26:07] because uh tonight I will be also

[26:08] joining the Whitman Select Board later

[26:10] to have a similar conversation. Um I

[26:13] believe you've all seen the updated uh

[26:16] access grant agreement that we were

[26:17] talking about last week. Uh we've gone

[26:20] back and forth for over a year on it. Um

[26:24] and it's in a really good place. Uh as I

[26:26] said last week, we wanted to basically

[26:28] work to document existing practices uh

[26:31] memorialize those on paper and then make

[26:35] the necessary modernizations

[26:37] uh just to you know a lot has changed

[26:40] since co and even before that. Uh and so

[26:43] I feel like we're in a really good

[26:44] place. It's been uh looked at by your

[26:47] legal counsel. have been looked at by

[26:49] WHCA's legal council, approved by WHCA's

[26:51] board, and now it's before you um for

[26:55] your approval. And again, the goal was

[26:57] to try to get uh substantially

[27:00] uh the same agreement between Whitman

[27:03] and Hansen, which is why the timeline

[27:05] works out tonight the way that it does.

[27:07] >> All right. And Miss Green, did you have

[27:08] anything you wanted to chime in with?

[27:11] Um just just to point out there were

[27:13] some minor um changes in um some of the

[27:18] terms and I can I can go through them.

[27:22] Um it's section three under the scope of

[27:24] services he access programming services

[27:27] facility um under let's see

[27:35] uh so it's J

[27:38] and then uh double I or J2 which is on

[27:41] page four.

[27:43] Um the la the last sentence um basically

[27:47] this has to has to do with uh notice

[27:50] regarding funding. Now when funding

[27:53] comes to us from Comcast

[27:56] um and then WHCA sends us an invoice and

[27:59] we take that funding and we send a check

[28:02] along um for that exact amount. Um but

[28:06] on here uh on this here it basically

[28:08] notes that if there's any change on any

[28:10] of that um we need to give written

[28:13] notice

[28:14] >> and they changed it from 10 days to 5

[28:17] days. Um so that my a minor change on

[28:20] that

[28:20] >> I think that the reason might have been

[28:22] just that throughout the document in

[28:24] other places where reasonable notice was

[28:25] defined for example letting us know

[28:27] about a meeting like tonight for us to

[28:29] film um we also brought that number down

[28:31] to the similar reasonable notice amount

[28:33] of time. 10 wasn't realistic. 10 wasn't

[28:36] actually what was happening in practice.

[28:37] So I think that the idea was just to

[28:39] harmonize that reasonable notice

[28:40] definition throughout the agreement in

[28:42] all areas.

[28:45] » Um and you don't think that's

[28:48] problematic? Um the payment?

[28:52] >> No, no, no. Because I mean it we get we

[28:55] receive the check uh turnover is done.

[28:58] We let um Eric know that we've got it.

[29:01] He immediately sends us an invoice of

[29:03] which we do turn our war on almost the

[29:05] same day. So it all basically happens

[29:08] almost the same day.

[29:08] >> I assume you checked with Lisa Clark the

[29:11] treasure collector or with Gina whoever

[29:14] it is that's doing the that they feel

[29:16] comfortable with that timeline.

[29:18] >> Yeah. Well, we just have to produce it

[29:20] all. The check isn't cut right then and

[29:21] there. Then they they go through their

[29:24] process um with actually issuing the

[29:27] check. It's just that when we get the

[29:28] check, hand it over and then when we

[29:31] process the warrant, uh that's all

[29:33] pretty much done in the same day. But

[29:35] once it reaches accounting and then

[29:37] treasur collector and then our town

[29:39] accountant go approves it, then the

[29:42] check is issued on that end. So what

[29:44] happens if for some reason we drop the

[29:45] ball and we don't do it within that time

[29:47] frame? Well, we'll have to call Eric and

[29:50] let him know that something went arai

[29:53] and

[29:53] >> in terms of um what I would foresee

[29:55] would happen on our end is my bookkeeper

[29:57] would probably be like, "Hey, where's

[29:58] that thing we usually see about this

[29:59] time?"

[30:00] >> All right. There's no penalty.

[30:01] >> No, there's no not so far as we're

[30:02] concerned. And I think the nice thing is

[30:04] what Lisa is talking about is really

[30:06] documenting our existing practice, which

[30:08] is what overall what this whole

[30:10] >> uh goal has been on this project. And so

[30:13] we've already got two years under our

[30:14] belt since the new cable license. Well,

[30:16] one in Hansom, two in Whitman. Uh, so

[30:18] we're really just repeating the steps.

[30:20] So, we just did our second capital

[30:21] payment and we just duplicated the

[30:23] process from last year. Now, that's

[30:26] basically being memorialized into this

[30:27] document so that, you know, happened to

[30:30] me. Get hit by a truck, the next guy up

[30:32] knows how to continue that practice.

[30:34] >> Okay.

[30:35] >> Love it.

[30:36] >> U, what else, M? Um so under section

[30:40] seven which is funding and equipment of

[30:42] the access corporation

[30:45] um we have num letter A and then I which

[30:50] I guess is one.

[30:51] >> Yeah.

[30:51] >> Um capital support that language is

[30:54] added um just again basically um under

[30:57] the license renewal with Comcast that we

[31:00] entered into uh last year. Um, this

[31:04] basically is talking about again we

[31:07] receive a check from Comcast and we go

[31:10] through that process. They send us an

[31:12] invoice and we do that process. Um, any

[31:15] capital that what Hansen Community

[31:18] Access purchases is purchased with that

[31:20] with those funds and and the town does

[31:23] not pay for any of those that that

[31:25] capital out of its budget funds like

[31:28] general fund.

[31:29] >> Okay.

[31:30] >> So, yeah. So basically that was inserted

[31:32] because there's I think eight other

[31:34] references to section 6.4 that talks

[31:36] about the way the operating revenue

[31:38] flows but there was a lot of ambiguity

[31:40] about the way the capital funding flows.

[31:42] So we just inserted that clause so that

[31:44] the capital funding just points to

[31:46] section 6.5 which I did email over.

[31:48] We're going to possibly make all of

[31:50] section six from the cable license an

[31:52] appendix to this agreement just so that

[31:54] all those cross cross references are

[31:55] right there.

[31:56] >> Did you guys have a concern?

[31:58] >> Oh okay. Oh,

[32:01] >> really thorough per usual.

[32:03] >> Yep.

[32:03] >> Good job.

[32:04] >> Thank you.

[32:04] >> Um, thank you.

[32:05] >> All right. Um, and the last under

[32:09] section 17 indemnification,

[32:12] uh, there is a let's seeification

[32:19] or

[32:21] >> what page?

[32:21] >> I'm sorry, it's not 17. It's um, it go

[32:24] we go to section 20, termination of the

[32:27] agreement.

[32:29] uh which is on page 14.

[32:34] Uh a determination of the agreement. Uh

[32:36] basically we um we changed it was a

[32:40] 60-day

[32:42] um it's that would be under um section C

[32:46] so 20 C. So we changed it from 60 days

[32:49] to 90 days. Um that just allows a little

[32:52] bit you know more time if the agreement

[32:55] is terminated.

[32:58] Uh so that we changed that and again um

[33:02] nothing out of the ordinary with going

[33:03] from 60 to 90 days.

[33:06] >> 60.

[33:07] >> Uh and then under section 21 transfer of

[33:09] assets upon termination

[33:13] um there is language that was added in

[33:15] there that basically says that the the director and it's actually in

[33:21] section B. uh the executive director

[33:23] shall have no claims shall not have any

[33:26] claims against the town for compensation

[33:28] for his services in connection with any

[33:30] liquidation. So meaning if there if

[33:32] there is a termination of the agreement

[33:34] and liquidation of the asset the

[33:37] director none the town is not

[33:39] responsible for any compensation to the

[33:41] director um

[33:42] >> just continue to pay out of WHCA until

[33:44] the well runs dry.

[33:46] >> Right. Fine.

[33:46] >> Perfect.

[33:47] >> So those are the major changes in the

[33:49] agreement.

[33:50] >> Does anybody have any other questions?

[33:52] Yes. Um, it occurs to me. So, say things

[33:55] went totally sour and the agreement was

[33:58] terminated.

[33:59] >> What happens to all of the videos that

[34:02] are up on YouTube and blah blah blah.

[34:05] You know,

[34:05] >> it's an interesting question. Um, I

[34:08] think that they would be considered

[34:09] assets of WHCA and the way that this is

[34:12] written is about the transfer of assets

[34:14] back to the respective towns. So, I just

[34:18] figure it would be a matter of turning

[34:20] over in that case passwords because

[34:21] there wouldn't be any physical servers.

[34:23] Okay.

[34:23] >> For things just providing that access.

[34:26] >> Okay.

[34:26] >> Yeah.

[34:26] >> As long as they're not going to

[34:28] >> No.

[34:30] Um Okay. Um then uh with that I will

[34:35] entertain a motion um to

[34:39] um

[34:41] to adopt the um agreement by between the

[34:44] town of Hansen and Whitman Hansen

[34:46] Community Access Corporation.

[34:48] >> So moved.

[34:48] >> Second.

[34:49] >> Okay. Um all in favor I

[34:52] >> All right. Amazing.

[34:53] >> Um all right. We will sign this tonight

[34:55] and Miss Green will get it.

[34:56] >> Might even be able to sign our side

[34:58] since she's here. I think she's standing

[34:59] here to Whitman, but

[35:01] >> he's getting signed as we speak.

[35:02] >> There we go.

[35:03] >> Okay, great.

[35:03] >> So, we'll circle back. We're obviously

[35:05] in close.

[35:05] >> Thank you so much for um for coming.

[35:08] >> Thank you.

[35:09] >> Um okay, next up, and thank you very

[35:12] much for your patience. Um and I'm sorry

[35:13] you just hit us on a night when we had

[35:15] to take a bunch of stuff out of order.

[35:17] Um is the um consider vote for the fir

[35:21] uh first right of refusal on 902 Main

[35:24] Street, unit um 52. Um, sorry about the

[35:28] loss of your aunt. Um, and uh, did you

[35:32] want to just kind of tell us where

[35:34] you're at and what's happening?

[35:36] >> Yeah, so I've sold these units before.

[35:38] I'm also a realtor. Um, so I have the

[35:41] listing ready to go. I have photos ready

[35:43] to go. Um, I'm pretty much on Chapa's

[35:47] timeline of when they tell me I can do

[35:49] whatever I need to do. So, our next step

[35:52] is obviously finding out if the town

[35:54] would like to purchase or doesn't want

[35:56] to purchase. And then after you give me

[35:59] that answer, Chapa will let me list it,

[36:03] which could be potentially next week if

[36:07] you guys make a decision. Um, and yeah,

[36:10] it'll be an income eligible unit. I

[36:13] can't imagine it's not going to sell.

[36:14] It's an amazing unit. Um the one that

[36:17] was just listed number 35, they had a

[36:21] buyer in 20 23 days, so it's contingent

[36:25] now. Um so yeah, listed for 307,900

[36:30] square ft if you have a buyer. It's

[36:32] actually it's an amazing offering. I

[36:34] have photos if you want them.

[36:36] >> Honestly, I keep think thinking to

[36:37] myself, I wish I knew somebody who was

[36:39] eligible for this.

[36:40] >> I wish I could get my parents in there.

[36:42] I wish I could almost live in there. I

[36:44] mean, I'm almost 55. I'm close.

[36:46] >> Almost.

[36:47] >> Um, so yeah.

[36:48] >> Um, so our last foray into this, um, we

[36:53] learned a lot.

[36:54] >> Yeah.

[36:54] >> And you're the benefactor of that that

[36:57] learning. Um, so, um, it is going to

[37:00] stay affordable. Um, and that's your

[37:02] intention. We would just, I think, ask

[37:04] you the same thing that we had asked Bob

[37:06] Germaine, who was the realtor for that

[37:08] unit. Um, if for any reason it doesn't

[37:11] look like it's going to sell, we would

[37:13] want you to let Miss Green know and we might, you know, uh, think about

[37:18] purchasing it as a

[37:20] >> I mean, that's that would be a sixmonth

[37:21] time frame because we have 180 days. So,

[37:24] I cannot imagine we would get there, but

[37:26] absolutely.

[37:27] >> Okay. Yeah.

[37:28] >> All right. Did anybody have any

[37:29] questions? No. Um, with that then I will

[37:32] entertain a motion um to

[37:36] um not exercise our first right of

[37:39] refusal on 902 Main Street, Unit 52.

[37:42] >> So moved.

[37:42] >> Second.

[37:44] >> Any further discussion? All in favor?

[37:46] >> All right. And thank you so much and

[37:48] thank you for waiting.

[37:48] >> Do Can I have one quick question? Do you

[37:51] know when I would get that piece of

[37:52] paper?

[37:53] >> Um, our Yep. Our admin will send it to

[37:55] you tomorrow, Amy. Awesome. Okay. Thank

[37:57] you so much. Yep.

[38:00] All right. Thank you.

[38:01] >> Thank you.

[38:02] >> All right. That brings us to discuss and

[38:05] consider vote to appoint unenrolled

[38:08] um election workers. So in front of us

[38:11] we have election workers with the term

[38:13] to expire August 2027. We've got Deborah

[38:17] Bonnie, um, Lisa Marie Carson, Ellen

[38:21] Conan, Matthew Dyer, Kathleen Ferrara,

[38:25] um, Helen Fuller, Aaron Hearn, Ann Marie

[38:27] Heislip, Mary Beth Johnson, Daniel

[38:30] Johnson, Joe Kelly, Kevin Lalian, and

[38:34] I'm sorry if I just slaughtered that,

[38:35] Kathleen McGee, Nancy Meyers, Alvara,

[38:38] Oso, James Rodick, Louise Russo, Teresa

[38:41] Sanche, Margaret Schneider, Beth Sloan,

[38:45] Ma Matthew Matthew Spencer, Robera

[38:47] Spencer, Heidi Wedell, and Moren Watson.

[38:49] I will entertain a motion to appoint

[38:51] these individuals as unenrolled election

[38:54] workers for a term expiring August of

[38:56] 2027.

[38:58] >> So moved.

[38:58] >> Second.

[38:59] >> All in favor?

[39:00] >> Amazing. Um, okay. Then that brings us

[39:04] to um discuss October special town

[39:08] meeting proposed articles. Miss Green.

[39:10] >> Uh, yes, Madam Chair. U Madam Vice

[39:12] Chair, members of the board. Uh the

[39:14] board opened the October special town

[39:16] meeting warrant last Tuesday. Um we had

[39:20] circulated the memorandum to the

[39:22] departments to let them know that the

[39:24] warrant was open. We have a an article

[39:26] submission deadline of Thursday, August

[39:29] 20th at 12 noon. Uh to date we have

[39:34] received uh 30 well we've we've received

[39:38] um

[39:40] we're looking at about 30 articles. Um

[39:44] some of them we do have the exact

[39:46] amounts like right now we only have one

[39:48] unpaid fiscal bill bill from the prior

[39:50] fiscal year. Um we do have wage and

[39:53] personnel bylaw. We have some updates in

[39:55] that that is already in the warrant. Um

[39:58] we will need some expense some uh salary

[40:02] supplements

[40:04] um for our uh building commissioner

[40:07] position and uh town planner and

[40:09] director of land use. Uh there may be

[40:10] more that that'll to be determined. Um

[40:14] but we know we've got the Mccoan

[40:15] playground with community preservation.

[40:18] We're waiting on water commissioners uh

[40:21] to submit any articles. Uh treasure

[40:24] collector has submitted hers. Uh police

[40:27] has submitted some articles including

[40:29] HVAC improvements for the police

[40:31] station, cruisers, uh fire, cardiac

[40:34] monitors and defibrillators.

[40:36] uh IT director has submitted articles um

[40:40] for capital items um that are going to

[40:43] include server infrastructure uh police

[40:46] safety radio consoles for the dispatch

[40:50] um security cameras at Camp Kuwani

[40:53] transfer station skate park uh Kenbury

[40:56] Cove then we have planning that has is

[40:59] still looking for consultant for the

[41:01] subdivision regulation control um

[41:05] we have highway A uh vehicle

[41:07] replacement, air compressor for trailer.

[41:10] Uh conservation is fund replacement.

[41:13] Their conservation fund replacement. Uh

[41:15] we have one article for the school

[41:17] Whitman Hansen Regional School District,

[41:19] which is high school paving. Uh elder

[41:22] affairs has not submitted anything yet.

[41:24] Uh and then from 21 down, these are

[41:28] mainly going to be bylaw um adjustments,

[41:32] additions, amendments, um or new bylaws.

[41:35] Okay. So, look in looking at these, what

[41:38] I'd like to do is try to get ahead of um

[41:41] us having a bunch of questions. So, um

[41:44] I'd like to the ones that I think that

[41:46] we need to have somebody come and talk

[41:48] to us about are conservation for sure.

[41:50] Like, we need to know what the heck's

[41:52] going on with those. Um and then we need

[41:54] to know what the heck's going on with

[41:56] the IT director stuff. um all

[41:58] well-intentioned and I'm sure they they

[42:00] are valid because Matt does his

[42:02] homework, but we just like to hear from

[42:04] him on it. And then the highway director

[42:07] um again, we want to have a conversation

[42:09] with with him. And I don't anticipate

[42:12] that these conversations are going to be

[42:14] long, but since we are going to be in a

[42:16] position of uh recommending or not, we

[42:19] kind of need to have some facts um from

[42:21] folks. Um you know, and then any of the

[42:24] other ones you can kind of flush out. I

[42:26] did want to mention like I don't the

[42:28] community preservation Indian crossway

[42:30] bridge at Crooker Place. Um has that

[42:32] already been presented to the community

[42:35] preservation.

[42:36] >> I don't know if it has or not.

[42:38] >> Who submitted that?

[42:39] >> Um

[42:41] that that was submitted by conservation.

[42:43] >> I think I think Dave is going to talk to

[42:47] >> Okay.

[42:48] >> talk to community preservation about it.

[42:51] >> Okay. Um I don't know when they're

[42:53] meeting. Uh they're not meeting before

[42:56] August 20th. I can tell you that. Um

[42:59] it's is well you've got a placeholder.

[43:02] >> What's the lockdown date?

[43:05] >> So that well that that's going to be

[43:06] part of the um August 20th is submission

[43:09] for the articles. So by August 20th,

[43:12] we'll need the article, we'll need the

[43:14] language, and we'll need the amount.

[43:15] >> Yeah. You're not going to have any of

[43:17] that on the Indian crossway.

[43:19] >> Okay. We can let we can let conservation

[43:21] know. You know, I'm not saying you can't

[43:24] put a placeholder, but you're just not

[43:25] going to know anything cuz they're not

[43:26] meeting until like middle of September.

[43:30] >> Oh, yeah. That probably wouldn't work.

[43:32] >> Yeah. So, it may need to be a spring

[43:34] child meeting more article.

[43:36] >> Okay.

[43:37] >> Um unless there's something that I'm

[43:40] missing, but um Okay. Um I did want to

[43:43] talk to you guys. I had um and if

[43:45] there's anything that you guys want to

[43:48] add um you know, let's discuss it as a

[43:51] board. I had asked to have the ban the

[43:53] selling ofratom. Um I had reached out to

[43:56] the board of health um about this a

[43:58] couple of months ago. Um several

[44:00] surrounding towns have uh banned the

[44:03] sale ofratom. It don't ask me what it

[44:05] is. It's an unregulated

[44:07] um substance that is sold by um various

[44:11] smoke shops I guess I would say mostly.

[44:14] Um, and it has not been approved by the

[44:17] FDA and it's known to have c caused some

[44:20] psychotic episodes and people that

[44:22] overdose on it, which of course a lot of

[44:24] things I mean literally Coca-Cola could

[44:26] probably do that. But still, um, it

[44:28] seems like it's a lot of kids that are

[44:29] buying it. And I had asked the board of

[44:33] um, health to discuss it, but they have

[44:35] not as of yet. Um, so I thought I would

[44:38] um and I did talk to the chair of the

[44:40] board of health about it and they will

[44:42] talk about it and potentially it will

[44:44] become their article or at least they'll

[44:45] support our article um because I do

[44:48] think there should be a partnership on

[44:50] that. Um, several surrounding towns have

[44:53] passed the ban on this. Um, notably

[44:56] Rockland and I believe Plymouth

[45:00] and I'm not I don't want to misrepresent

[45:02] but I know for sure Rockland did. Yes.

[45:04] Um so just a question um or or just a

[45:07] comment rather.

[45:08] >> Yeah.

[45:08] >> If we are going to um put an atomic can

[45:10] we make sure it has teeth in it that

[45:12] says if you are caught selling this x y

[45:14] and z will happen. Fair point. So

[45:16] instead like because I don't want the

[45:17] same thing to happen with that like we

[45:19] had with the nip ban

[45:21] >> but nip ban wasn't our article.

[45:22] >> Well that no and I understand that but

[45:25] it was a citizens petition but um

[45:27] >> there was just no there was no

[45:29] enforcement.

[45:29] >> No we need we definitely need

[45:31] enforcement. um probably tied to we will

[45:36] revoke your license if you violate this.

[45:38] Like

[45:38] >> is there a specific license for smoke

[45:41] shops? Is that a

[45:42] >> No, it's just a business license. It's

[45:43] just a business license. Okay.

[45:44] >> Yep.

[45:45] >> Um

[45:45] >> the problem with from what I understand

[45:48] is it's u the stuff that they're selling

[45:50] in these stores is unregulated. Exactly.

[45:52] Completely. They do use for uh

[45:56] beneficial purposes with um PTSD

[45:59] veterans and stuff, but that's

[46:01] medicinal. Exactly.

[46:02] >> We're talking about something that's uh

[46:04] it's it's like I can't think of the

[46:06] right word, but it's it's not

[46:08] >> properly regulated.

[46:10] >> And we'll get more information. We don't

[46:11] have to vote on this tonight, but I just

[46:13] wanted to tell you guys why I had asked

[46:14] to have that put on there. Um I'll make

[46:16] sure that we you know that we we ceue up

[46:18] more information. Um the dock regulation

[46:21] bylaw. Um Miss Green, I'm not really too

[46:24] sure about that one. What the heck is

[46:26] that?

[46:27] Um that one actually the conservation place that in front of

[46:33] us but also I believe um fire is I I

[46:35] haven't seen that yet. Um I haven't seen

[46:38] >> Did you say Amy to me that it's

[46:39] something about that it allows fire to

[46:43] have more jurisdiction over what's

[46:44] happening on the docks or something?

[46:47] >> The building I think.

[46:48] >> Yeah.

[46:49] >> Oh. Oh. Okay. On

[46:50] >> like who can have the regulations about

[46:52] putting docks.

[46:52] >> Okay. All right. Okay. Um All right. So

[46:55] again, we might want a little write. We

[46:56] want some explanations on this stuff

[46:58] just so we know what's what.

[46:59] >> But we're going to have the whole

[47:01] warrant.

[47:02] >> Yeah, we'll have the warrant, but I

[47:03] think it would be good for us to kind of

[47:04] get our minds around things in advance.

[47:07] It helps expedite the process and the

[47:09] discussion if we can just be educated

[47:11] about what people are putting in for.

[47:14] Um, and then of course the marijuana

[47:16] delivery waiver which we had put in

[47:18] there and the false alarm bylaw. I um

[47:21] Amy and I had that conversation. You

[47:23] guys will recall that we were a bit

[47:25] hamstrung with the property um at 1057

[47:28] Main Street um in that we were getting

[47:31] called out frequently, but unfortunately

[47:34] we have a bylaw that doesn't allow us to

[47:36] charge when we're getting called out for

[47:38] bogus calls and somebody has not done

[47:40] what they're supposed to be doing with

[47:41] their alarm. And of course, we would not

[47:43] do this willy-nilly, but in this case,

[47:46] it was egregious and the town was out

[47:48] money because we're required to respond,

[47:49] but we can't charge somebody for the

[47:51] fact that we're responding and they

[47:53] should have done something different

[47:54] with their um alarm. So, Chief O'Brien

[47:57] had mentioned to us at the time um that

[47:59] he would like to have a bylaw change.

[48:01] So, that's what this is.

[48:03] >> So, these are just placeholders. People

[48:04] haven't that doesn't exist in paragraph.

[48:07] >> No, we don't have the meat and potatoes

[48:08] of all of this yet. Um, these are just

[48:11] all sort of conceptual.

[48:14] >> Am I wrong or is this like a lot of

[48:16] articles for the October special talk?

[48:18] >> No, that's it's kind of normal.

[48:20] >> Yeah, it's kind of normal and it's all

[48:21] over the place and some of these may get

[48:23] reduced. You know, I think one of the um

[48:25] big questions we need to ask ourselves

[48:28] since many of them are looking at using

[48:29] free cash is how much free cash do we

[48:32] have?

[48:33] >> Do we even have that number yet?

[48:35] >> So, we do need to get that number. So

[48:37] Eric um our town accountant noted that

[48:40] he should have um he should have a good

[48:43] estimate number by September 15th.

[48:45] >> Okay. All right. Okay.

[48:47] >> Can can I just can we add another

[48:51] >> um another article here for the women

[48:53] hands and regional school district

[48:54] committee for um any additional capital

[48:56] items. I don't know if they've even

[48:58] known that we've opened up the warrant

[49:00] yet. I have a meeting

[49:01] >> you send along the memo to them as well.

[49:03] Yeah,

[49:03] >> you send Okay. So, you sent the memo to

[49:05] and um

[49:06] >> I'm trying to figure out if we have um

[49:08] unspent warrant money that we might be

[49:11] able to transfer. So, I just don't want

[49:12] to have like

[49:13] >> I don't know the uh

[49:14] >> Well, yeah. So, um just prior to this

[49:17] meeting, Frank mentioned, you know, how

[49:18] we always go through the exercise of how

[49:20] of have we allocated money for items for

[49:23] the schools that they have not spent.

[49:25] Um, so Frank and those guys have gone

[49:27] through and there's a little chunk of

[49:29] change that has was allocated but is not

[49:32] spent yet, but it doesn't mean that they

[49:35] haven't made plans for it. So Frank just

[49:37] wants to um double check that. But um in

[49:41] the event that in fact it does turn out

[49:43] that they're not going to spend that

[49:45] money, um Frank would like to have a

[49:48] warrant article to allow us to transfer

[49:50] that unspent money into stabilization.

[49:53] Yep. Um, so if we could just put a

[49:55] placeholder for that and then just wait

[49:57] for Mr. Melissa to get back to us.

[49:59] >> Yeah. The only reason I'm asking is

[50:00] because you're we're closing the warrant

[50:02] before we meet next. Right. So I just

[50:04] want to make sure that we don't have to

[50:06] >> reopen it at that point that we already

[50:07] have something there and everybody's

[50:08] aware. So we may not need it. Um I

[50:10] haven't talked to

[50:11] >> I I'd rather that people put stuff in

[50:13] there and then we can always delete it.

[50:16] uh once we close the warrant really uh

[50:19] these guys are trying to have rigor

[50:20] around the timelines because otherwise

[50:21] they end up running around like maniacs

[50:23] at the end. Mr. Weeks

[50:25] >> uh so for me I just have a a quick

[50:28] followup around this. So capital

[50:30] improvement committee always has kind of

[50:32] like a soft spot in my heart on all of

[50:34] these things and we have been announcing

[50:36] that there's only one vacancy out of

[50:39] five.

[50:41] Per our bylaws, the capital improvement

[50:43] committee is supposed to meet, make

[50:45] recommendations,

[50:46] and do everything they need to do in

[50:48] order for the for the town to even hold

[50:51] the town meeting. And I'm just I just

[50:54] want to make sure that the four people

[50:55] that are actually on the capital

[50:57] improving committee uh are are meeting

[50:59] and doing what they're they're they're

[51:00] tasked to do per the bylaws.

[51:02] >> Is there a plan for them to meet? Yes,

[51:04] we um we talked about it today and we

[51:08] are um going to be sending out an email

[51:10] to the members um about meeting the

[51:12] first week of September.

[51:13] >> Okay. To look at the

[51:14] >> Just want to make sure because they're

[51:16] supposed to be meeting with all of these

[51:18] department heads

[51:20] >> on our behalf making recommendations to

[51:23] kind of cut through the minutia for us.

[51:25] Yeah. So, I just want to make sure that

[51:27] process is, you know, is happening.

[51:29] That's all. I'm not sure

[51:32] that process is happening. Process is

[51:35] happening.

[51:35] >> I think we I think Yeah. Yeah. I just

[51:37] want to make sure we're we're doing what

[51:39] we're supposed to be doing per the

[51:40] bylaws.

[51:40] >> Def I appreciate you bringing that up

[51:43] and um I it's a very valid um concern.

[51:48] >> Just a question on number 12.

[51:50] >> Uh number 12.

[51:51] >> Conels or consoles?

[51:53] >> It's probably consoles.

[51:54] >> Consoles. Consoles. Yes.

[51:56] >> Consoles. Okay. I just wanted to make

[51:58] sure. I've never heard of a con sell

[51:59] like

[52:00] >> expand your vocabulary.

[52:01] >> Hey, I my vocabulary is extensive.

[52:03] >> I know.

[52:05] >> Um,

[52:06] >> also same thing with 30. It says selling

[52:08] the of

[52:08] >> cratom.

[52:09] >> Yeah.

[52:11] >> Banning the

[52:13] >> I wasn't going to pick 21 has it. You're

[52:15] missing the M and swamp.

[52:17] >> One question on the timing. You're

[52:19] talking about um

[52:21] >> improvement meeting in September and

[52:23] then

[52:24] >> we're getting numbers and on like how

[52:25] much free cash is available in

[52:27] September. Yeah,

[52:28] >> but yet the the um the bridge we can't

[52:31] do in September. I'm not I don't have to

[52:33] >> because capital improvement is after the

[52:37] community preservation is a recommending

[52:39] committee. They have to recommend it.

[52:41] You can't just put a placeholder there

[52:43] because people want to have a project.

[52:45] Only capital uh only community

[52:48] preservation can put a placeholder in

[52:50] for community

[52:51] >> presholder itself is the problem getting

[52:54] >> well the article potentially too but but

[52:56] definitely If there's a placeholder

[52:58] there, you could take it out,

[53:00] >> right? But you but something has been

[53:03] circumvented here. There's a whole

[53:05] committee,

[53:06] >> right?

[53:06] >> Like I like if I were like for instance

[53:09] the economic development committee, I'm

[53:10] not going to put something on there as a

[53:12] placeholder if I haven't talked to the

[53:14] entire board about it.

[53:15] >> Right. Right. No, I agree. I'm just

[53:17] confused a little bit.

[53:18] >> So this has come out of the left hand.

[53:20] This has sort of come out of like maybe

[53:22] they've talked about it. I don't know.

[53:23] And if they have, then that's

[53:24] appropriate. Um, but if they haven't

[53:26] talked about it, I think that there

[53:28] needs to be some kind of a conversation.

[53:30] And the reason I'm saying that it's not

[53:32] going to happen is because I happen to

[53:34] know that certain members are

[53:35] unavailable during the very constrained

[53:37] time frames that we have.

[53:38] >> That that that answers my second

[53:40] question is is why wouldn't they be

[53:42] meeting with enough time to get

[53:45] >> because they all agreed they didn't need

[53:47] to meet in August.

[53:48] >> Okay.

[53:49] >> And certain parties.

[53:52] >> Yep. Yeah,

[53:52] >> that makes sense because it's it's it's

[53:55] them meeting after they get so

[53:56] >> sitting next to me.

[53:57] >> No, no, I'm I'm not on community

[53:59] preservation, but I I am I am quite

[54:02] close to somebody who is um so um and

[54:06] again I think probably the right thing

[54:09] is to just say to whoever submitted it,

[54:12] have you circle back with the chair?

[54:14] This needs to go through the right

[54:15] protocols. it should be the chair or the

[54:17] vice chair that's making the decision um

[54:20] on whether it's a placeholder and then

[54:22] circling back. I'm not saying it can't

[54:24] be done, but there is a protocol um for

[54:26] it. And I just know that um if Lisa is

[54:30] saying she needs the numbers by August

[54:32] 20th

[54:32] >> Mhm.

[54:33] >> if they're not meeting,

[54:35] >> right? No, I agree. then I don't see how

[54:37] they could give the numbers, you know,

[54:40] again, unless there's some agreement

[54:42] that like you've got rough numbers and

[54:44] you could back into them in a me in a

[54:46] meeting in September,

[54:48] >> right? Rough rough numbers at least is

[54:50] what we would what we would expect. So

[54:52] if somebody has if somebody you know

[54:54] contacts the chair and talks to them and

[54:57] says we've got rough numbers then I

[54:59] think pro that might we could do a

[55:01] placeholder but we won't have the final

[55:03] article or the details because the

[55:06] community preservation committee will

[55:07] not have met um and so that what goes to

[55:12] kind of my other question which is what

[55:14] is the drop dead date?

[55:16] So that's um

[55:18] >> for like everything to be locked down,

[55:19] the final wording, the the vote of the

[55:22] committee, the money.

[55:25] >> Uh September 15th is the drop dead date.

[55:28] Okay. Because um we have to post we have

[55:32] to present it to the constable to post

[55:34] at least by the 17th of September

[55:36] >> to make absolutely sure that we're we're

[55:39] meeting the two week deadline and we

[55:42] don't wait till that Monday because you

[55:44] never know what could happen. and a

[55:45] storm could li you know I don't know so

[55:47] we we do it on the Thursday before the twoe deadline just to be sure so my

[55:53] very strong recommendation would be that

[55:54] if the conservation commission is um

[55:58] bullish about this which I know you've

[56:00] had fits and starts because of the um

[56:03] the uh airark and all that um and I know

[56:06] that this is an important project then I

[56:08] think my very strong suggestion would be

[56:10] get everything lined up all the ducks

[56:12] lined up about you know the application

[56:15] filled out all of the estimates lock

[56:18] down do the three you know if you've got

[56:19] to do three estimates of the work blah blah or if it's going to be you

[56:23] know um well-intentioned people doing

[56:26] the work I don't I don't really know

[56:27] what the um you know I don't know what

[56:29] the process is there I know Dave does a

[56:31] lot of

[56:32] >> Dave has a lot of people planning

[56:34] involved

[56:34] >> yeah so I mean um I just get it all

[56:38] locked down so that when they do meet

[56:40] the CPC in September they can take a

[56:42] vote because everything will be ready,

[56:44] >> right? If not, this is just going to be

[56:46] the second time that

[56:48] >> we got kicked. You know, this this one

[56:50] specific project is getting pushed yet

[56:52] again, which

[56:53] >> timing is timing is everything really.

[56:55] They met in July and I'm not I I don't

[56:58] know that this came up, but um if it did

[57:00] then it's fine, but I I just don't

[57:02] remember it coming up.

[57:03] >> Okay. Um and then for you guys, um

[57:05] anything that's coming in from somebody

[57:07] other than the department head or the

[57:10] chair of the department of the

[57:12] committee, it just that just shouldn't

[57:14] be that's a protocol.

[57:16] Um so, um and that goes for I mean

[57:20] there's got to be checks and balances

[57:21] there, right? Otherwise, we have people

[57:24] going all over the place. Um all right.

[57:27] Well, this is a great list and I know

[57:28] this was a herculan effort to put it

[57:30] together. Um, and but I just thought it

[57:33] would be good for the board to kind of

[57:35] get a snapshot of the various things

[57:38] that might be out there. And uh, I I

[57:41] like it. I did not see anything. Um, you

[57:43] said library,

[57:45] >> right? The library um, senior center. We

[57:48] have not received anything.

[57:49] >> Board of Health, um, water. We haven't

[57:52] received anything from those departments

[57:54] yet.

[57:54] >> So, will we send a little note? And I

[57:57] also had mentioned to um Amy that I was

[57:59] a little surprised and I know Jessica's

[58:01] on vacation this week, but I I don't

[58:03] know what what Jessica would have asked

[58:05] for, but I would have anticipated that

[58:07] the town clerk might have something

[58:08] because she's had articles almost every

[58:10] town meeting. You know,

[58:11] >> check with Jeanie. She does see one.

[58:14] >> Okay. Okay.

[58:15] >> We'll double check as well in justice.

[58:17] >> Okay. All right. Cool. Um did anybody

[58:19] have any other questions or comments on

[58:21] this? Okay, great. Thanks. Oh, Mr. God,

[58:25] I just I just got to I didn't know if I

[58:26] could mention one thing about

[58:27] conservation before I left.

[58:28] >> Yes, please do. Yep.

[58:30] >> Um, we I mentioned it the bit in the

[58:31] past about the mill and it's not getting

[58:34] >> any better. Dave Dave Mansfield did do

[58:37] some fix up of the mill. It's it's

[58:40] already starting to not do well

[58:44] >> deteriorate.

[58:45] It's up to us to figure out

[58:47] what we're going to do to maintain the

[58:49] mill. You know, it it's you know, there

[58:52] are other committees that do work on it,

[58:54] but it falls on our plate to seal it and

[58:58] fix the stairs and do whatever needs to

[59:00] be done. So, at some time, I'm not sure

[59:01] it's today's meeting.

[59:02] >> You say on our plate, who are you

[59:03] referring?

[59:04] >> Select board.

[59:05] >> No, we've got the Thomas Mill Committee

[59:06] and that's

[59:07] >> But they don't have

[59:08] >> I've re I reached out to Marcus after

[59:10] our last meeting and mentioned Dave's

[59:12] concerns and I thought he was going to

[59:15] talk to Dave. Um,

[59:17] >> but I don't think there's any any

[59:19] resolution or anything moving forward.

[59:21] >> Well, that sounds like a committee

[59:22] problem.

[59:24] >> Could is it possible for us to get our

[59:25] building commissioner to go over and

[59:27] take a look and assess? I I'm not

[59:29] doubting Dave because he's an expert and I know he spent time doing that as a

[59:33] job, but um would that be possible for

[59:36] us to ask our building commissioner?

[59:38] Yes.

[59:38] >> Um to go out and take a look and just

[59:40] assess

[59:41] >> I guess underneath underneath the the

[59:44] stairs are in rough shape. They've just

[59:46] patched them.

[59:47] >> Yeah.

[59:47] >> Underneath there are pilings or

[59:50] something that hold them up that are

[59:51] rotting out and there's a lot of dry

[59:53] rot. Those are three things I'm aware

[59:55] of.

[59:56] >> And I told Marcus that and he seemed

[59:57] very surprised about the pilings and

[1:00:00] stuff. Um he said that he wasn't aware

[1:00:02] of that and and

[1:00:03] >> Okay. I don't know that that's the thing

[1:00:05] is is it's and it does it I mean the

[1:00:08] committee I don't know like what what

[1:00:11] they they don't have money to fix it. I

[1:00:13] don't know.

[1:00:13] >> Right. they can come to us like they did

[1:00:15] come for the water wheel and you know so

[1:00:17] um that's why I'm saying if the building

[1:00:19] commissioner can take a look at it

[1:00:21] >> um and maybe you want to put a

[1:00:23] placeholder in here we don't have any

[1:00:25] facts at all but you know maybe we've

[1:00:28] got maybe we need to do some kind of an

[1:00:30] emergency repair on the Thomas Mill I

[1:00:32] don't know we don't have dollar amounts

[1:00:34] or anything but if we're going to close

[1:00:35] the warrant on the 20th and we're not

[1:00:37] meeting again until after that um and if

[1:00:39] it is as dire as Mr. heel says, which I

[1:00:42] have no doubt it is, then maybe we just

[1:00:44] put that there and we can have the

[1:00:45] building commissioner take a look at it

[1:00:46] and then um see what what the thoughts

[1:00:50] are there.

[1:00:51] >> Can I have Yes.

[1:00:52] >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Hill.

[1:00:53] >> Thank you.

[1:00:54] >> Okay. To another meeting and I will be

[1:00:56] back.

[1:00:56] >> All right.

[1:00:58] >> I'm taking my name tag and leaving.

[1:01:02] >> Um

[1:01:04] All right. That brings us to discuss

[1:01:07] board meeting calendar. for uh Miss

[1:01:09] Green.

[1:01:10] >> Okay. Um

[1:01:13] so September um as I as I not noted

[1:01:18] earlier um we need to post or pro we

[1:01:22] need to hand the uh warrant to the

[1:01:26] constable on September 17th.

[1:01:29] >> Uh the board if you the meeting schedule

[1:01:32] is September 1st

[1:01:34] >> and then September 8th,

[1:01:35] >> right? So, is the board going to be

[1:01:37] ready to sign the warrant on the ETH for

[1:01:40] us to post on the 17th or would the

[1:01:44] board want to change the ETH to the

[1:01:46] 15th? So, you can look at the warrant a

[1:01:49] couple of days before we're going to

[1:01:50] post it just to confirm everything

[1:01:54] um uh vote everything and then sign the

[1:01:58] warrant on, you know, by the 17th.

[1:02:02] sets us.

[1:02:03] >> So, I mean, I don't know with the

[1:02:05] finance committee what their what their

[1:02:07] meeting schedule is. Um, I don't know if

[1:02:09] everyone's going to be on the same

[1:02:10] schedule for the board to have

[1:02:13] everything that it needs by the 8th of

[1:02:14] September to be able to sign the warrant

[1:02:17] for us to post on the 17th.

[1:02:18] >> I mean, that's a fair point. Um, we can,

[1:02:21] but we don't have to make our

[1:02:23] recommendations

[1:02:25] before you go to print.

[1:02:27] >> No. Well, no, this is post,

[1:02:29] >> right? But you but you're saying fin and

[1:02:32] usually the fin is tied to our

[1:02:34] recommendations, right?

[1:02:35] >> Um because we'd like to try to

[1:02:38] >> Yeah. I mean, we can certainly go to

[1:02:40] print afterwards, but the more

[1:02:41] information we have when we post

[1:02:44] >> is is is better then, you know, then

[1:02:46] when we pro when we put together

[1:02:48] theformational warrant, a lot of the

[1:02:51] information on theformational warrant is

[1:02:52] already on the posted warrant. Could we possibly instead of moving the

[1:02:57] 8th to the 15th, could we move the 22nd

[1:02:59] to the 15th?

[1:03:02] >> That would be completely up with the

[1:03:03] board.

[1:03:03] >> Oh, absolutely.

[1:03:04] >> That's going to give us three and three

[1:03:06] with one week off.

[1:03:07] >> Three weeks in a row.

[1:03:09] >> Well, if you do it the other way, it

[1:03:10] could be four weeks in a row. It could

[1:03:11] be

[1:03:11] >> I think the reason we had that um Oh,

[1:03:14] yeah. Okay. Because we're still meeting

[1:03:16] the 29th,

[1:03:17] >> right?

[1:03:18] >> Um I don't know. What do you guys think?

[1:03:20] >> I can't make it because that's Kennedy's

[1:03:22] birthday. So I I cannot make the 15. You

[1:03:25] can't make

[1:03:25] >> Yeah, but obviously you don't need me

[1:03:27] for a quorum. But just in case there is

[1:03:29] a quorum issue, I can't make

[1:03:30] >> But even that if you were able to make

[1:03:33] it, do do what are your thoughts on like

[1:03:36] the the timing?

[1:03:38] >> I think uh whatever Lisa needs to get

[1:03:41] the job done is what I'll support. So it

[1:03:43] doesn't

[1:03:44] >> if we did this 22nd to the 15th.

[1:03:47] >> Yeah.

[1:03:47] >> It's going to give us a three weeks and

[1:03:48] then one week off and then three weeks

[1:03:50] on.

[1:03:51] >> Yeah. Yeah, I truly

[1:03:52] >> you'll get to miss it.

[1:03:53] >> That's what I'm saying. To me, it

[1:03:54] doesn't matter because I won't be there

[1:03:55] regardless. So whether it's 3 weeks or

[1:03:56] four weeks, it doesn't matter.

[1:03:58] >> I'm here either way. So whatever the

[1:04:00] >> what is the recommendation is you are

[1:04:02] you guys recommending that we do the

[1:04:04] 15th

[1:04:05] >> instead in lie of the 8th?

[1:04:07] >> Either the 8th or the 22nd. Um it

[1:04:10] whatever the board but if you can meet

[1:04:11] on the 15th I think that would that

[1:04:13] would wrap everything up nicely and have

[1:04:14] the idea by the move to the 15th.

[1:04:18] >> You know what my gut is telling me?

[1:04:20] What's what was what were we supposed to

[1:04:21] >> those last two weeks? I just so many

[1:04:24] there's so many moving parts there, you

[1:04:26] know? I just my gut's telling me that

[1:04:29] we'll regret moving the 22nd to the

[1:04:31] 15th.

[1:04:32] >> So, I think that it it it might be a

[1:04:36] better idea to hold a meeting on the

[1:04:37] 15th, the 8th, the 15th, and the 22nd.

[1:04:40] Can't we

[1:04:41] >> We can always cancel

[1:04:42] >> cancel a meeting if we don't feel like

[1:04:43] we need it.

[1:04:44] 15. Of course, we also may have to send

[1:04:47] personal massuses and um you know, hook

[1:04:49] up hook these guys up to vitamin

[1:04:51] >> IVs. Yeah. Um

[1:04:53] >> it's better to have it not need it than

[1:04:55] you did not have it though.

[1:04:56] >> Well, we need the 15

[1:04:57] >> and the information from the is going to

[1:04:59] be important um for recommendations as

[1:05:01] well. So feel like

[1:05:04] >> I mean I don't I I I'm fine not meeting

[1:05:07] on the ETH. I that meeting I'm not I

[1:05:10] don't feel like oh my god we have to

[1:05:12] meet on the ETH like But that's fine.

[1:05:15] Like the deadline is the 17th.

[1:05:17] >> I just say wait until honestly though

[1:05:19] wait until you get the actual stuff the

[1:05:24] details cuz you might end up needing the

[1:05:25] ETH.

[1:05:26] >> All right. Then what then why don't we

[1:05:28] just conceptually agree that our goal

[1:05:30] will not be to meet four times um in

[1:05:33] September. Our goal will be to meet

[1:05:35] three times. hopefully um not meeting on

[1:05:39] the ETH but that we will on our calendar

[1:05:43] say that just to give us some ability to

[1:05:45] be agile that

[1:05:48] the ball's in the air.

[1:05:50] >> Yeah. I mean what we can do is um on the

[1:05:53] ETH um this the schedule is to you vote

[1:05:56] your recommendations um sign the warrant

[1:06:00] but um and then on the first you have

[1:06:02] reviews your review and close. So, we

[1:06:05] can move either one of those. Um, you

[1:06:08] know, still I mean, if you want to close

[1:06:10] the warrant on the first and then also

[1:06:14] um start look looking at

[1:06:16] recommendations, we can do all that on

[1:06:18] the first.

[1:06:18] >> I don't there's no way that the fin is

[1:06:21] going to be writing by the first.

[1:06:22] There's no way.

[1:06:24] >> I I I think that the ETH is probably a

[1:06:26] very important meeting because what

[1:06:28] we're going to see for the first time on

[1:06:29] the first. There's going to be revisions

[1:06:31] to it and then we're going to have to

[1:06:33] revise it on the 8th and then have it in

[1:06:35] time for because if we meet on the 15th

[1:06:37] and you guys have to post and print by

[1:06:39] the 17th that gives you two days to make

[1:06:41] any revisions that we have which isn't

[1:06:44] fair to you guys to have that. So

[1:06:46] >> all right so maybe you're in the Ann

[1:06:47] Rain camp I

[1:06:50] >> just think we just need to to call a

[1:06:51] meeting on the 15th keep the rest of it

[1:06:53] the same and if we have to cancel we can cancel the 22nd if we

[1:06:56] don't totally agree. Yeah. All right.

[1:06:58] So, I'm going to enter that motion to

[1:07:00] add.

[1:07:00] >> So, moved. Second.

[1:07:01] >> All right. All in favor? I.

[1:07:02] >> All right. And Mr. Hill, you're not

[1:07:04] here, so you don't get to say. Um, so,

[1:07:07] um, okay, great. And thank you for

[1:07:08] bringing it to our attention. And again,

[1:07:10] it is not our intention to be meeting

[1:07:12] four times, but we got we got a job to

[1:07:14] do, so whatever we got to do to get it

[1:07:16] done is what we'll do. But um and I

[1:07:19] think um the

[1:07:22] I think you have a better shot at

[1:07:24] potentially not having to work all four

[1:07:26] Tuesday evenings and run around getting

[1:07:29] minutes and everything done if you can

[1:07:32] prepare and package everything for so

[1:07:35] that it is just there for us to have no

[1:07:38] questions about and it's all laid out

[1:07:40] and we can just vote on things

[1:07:42] >> and and you don't necessarily need to

[1:07:44] have large agendas either. No, we do

[1:07:46] not. We can just get right down to

[1:07:48] business. Yep. Yep.

[1:07:50] >> Hilarious.

[1:07:54] » Okay. All right. Uh next up, uh discuss

[1:07:59] and vote to consider approval of town

[1:08:01] hall youth for holy apostles parishes

[1:08:04] prayer rally on October 10th from 11:30

[1:08:07] to 1:30. I will entertain that motion.

[1:08:09] >> So moved.

[1:08:10] >> Second.

[1:08:10] >> All in favor?

[1:08:11] >> I don't forget about the library

[1:08:13] leazison.

[1:08:13] >> Oh yes. Thank you. discuss and consider

[1:08:16] vote to appoint library liaison miss.

[1:08:19] >> Um so the board um normally they are

[1:08:24] liaison to different departments so that

[1:08:26] if the library is if they're

[1:08:28] experiencing any issues uh or concerns

[1:08:31] they have a select board member to reach

[1:08:33] out to. Um I don't know

[1:08:38] who may want to take on that um to be

[1:08:41] the the library liaison. Um

[1:08:44] >> um yeah. Is there anybody that wanted to

[1:08:45] reach out to do that? I I did I did it

[1:08:48] last year. Um which was a controversial

[1:08:51] year to do it. Um and um they are quite

[1:08:54] a lovely group of people. I would

[1:08:56] anticipate that there because the new

[1:09:00] building didn't get passed probably a

[1:09:02] lot of their focus is going to be on um

[1:09:04] some of the deferred maintenance that

[1:09:06] they have on the building. Um so I I

[1:09:08] think that's the majority of what

[1:09:10] whoever the leazison um is. Um, so did

[1:09:14] anybody feel particular stling? I don't

[1:09:16] mind continuing to do it. I really

[1:09:17] don't. It's not a problem for me.

[1:09:19] >> So moved.

[1:09:19] >> Okay.

[1:09:20] >> I was I was going to I was going to say

[1:09:22] that I I have no issue doing it if

[1:09:24] nobody else wants to do it. So

[1:09:25] >> Okay. Well, we can arm wrestle, but um

[1:09:28] do do you want to

[1:09:29] >> Yeah, I'll definitely I'll definitely I

[1:09:31] resend my motion and I I will move that

[1:09:35] Frank is leaving.

[1:09:36] >> Okay. All in favor?

[1:09:38] >> Okay, great. All right. Thank you. And

[1:09:39] if you could

[1:09:41] >> um Yep. Um, and seconded. Joe made the

[1:09:44] motion.

[1:09:45] >> Um, thank you guys. Um,

[1:09:48] >> and then that brings us to um, we're

[1:09:51] skipping over the gift from Friends of

[1:09:53] Camp Kuwani because there's logistics to

[1:09:55] still work out on that. Correct.

[1:09:57] >> Okay, great. And then uh, that brings us

[1:09:59] to the one day liquor license August

[1:10:01] 30th, 2026 2 to 7:00 p.m. Camp Kani

[1:10:04] Allen birthday party. I'll entertain

[1:10:06] that motion.

[1:10:06] >> So moved.

[1:10:07] >> Second.

[1:10:08] >> All in favor? Amazing. Um, and meeting

[1:10:11] minutes. Well, buckle up, people.

[1:10:14] >> What is this?

[1:10:16] >> Good, good job.

[1:10:17] >> Well done. Well done, um, Miss Annis.

[1:10:21] Um, Mrs. Enis, um, this was a doozy.

[1:10:24] This might go down in the books, in

[1:10:26] fact, as the longest set of minutes that

[1:10:29] we have ever in the town of history.

[1:10:31] >> There's a there's an arrow on page 38.

[1:10:33] >> Okay,

[1:10:35] >> I'll get right on it.

[1:10:38] So, um, it was

[1:10:41] >> it looked pretty good. Pretty good to

[1:10:42] me.

[1:10:42] >> It was painful to relive. Um, so, um,

[1:10:46] but I thank you for your diligence and

[1:10:48] your attention to detail. And, um, I'm

[1:10:51] not sure many other people could have

[1:10:54] >> created this little opus. Um, so, um, I

[1:10:58] will entertain a motion to approve the

[1:11:00] May 19th, 2026 minutes.

[1:11:02] >> So, moved.

[1:11:02] >> Second.

[1:11:03] >> All in favor? Amazing. And thank you

[1:11:05] again, Mrs. Andis. appreciate it.

[1:11:08] >> Um, and um,

[1:11:11] I just wanted to mention something um,

[1:11:13] to folks. Uh, two things to folks. Um, I

[1:11:16] I've had a couple of people reach out to

[1:11:18] me about the flock cameras, more than a

[1:11:20] couple. Um, and people are very

[1:11:23] concerned about the flock cameras and I

[1:11:25] know we have spoken to the chief and we

[1:11:27] have had our um, questions answered, but

[1:11:30] things keep coming up and I will say the

[1:11:32] media is creating a bit of a frenzy

[1:11:34] about this and sort of whipping

[1:11:36] everybody in, you know, like creating

[1:11:38] these um, sort of controversial uh,

[1:11:41] headlines that cause people to panic. Um

[1:11:44] and although when we spoke to Chief

[1:11:47] Casey, he was really clear about um the

[1:11:50] fact we've got solid protocols in place

[1:11:54] um that it's limited access um that we

[1:11:58] get audited on who accesses this

[1:12:00] information, etc., etc. Um when I talked

[1:12:03] to Chief Casey today about it, I said,

[1:12:07] "What do you think about having a public

[1:12:09] forum where you could just answer

[1:12:11] questions that people have?" And I

[1:12:12] realize that this could take a sharp

[1:12:14] left and really go wrong. Um, but I

[1:12:17] think that people have got concerns. And

[1:12:19] what I've been finding super interesting

[1:12:21] about this is this cuts ac across swaths

[1:12:25] politically like nobody's business. I've

[1:12:28] got people all over the spectrum that

[1:12:30] are concerned about these cameras. Um,

[1:12:33] so I was thinking maybe a public forum

[1:12:37] where the and the chief totally was

[1:12:39] like, "Yep, that's fine." like I I will

[1:12:41] answer people's questions. Um sort of

[1:12:44] similar to like MBTA, even though we're

[1:12:46] not asking voters to make a decision

[1:12:48] about it, it's ultimately our decision.

[1:12:51] Um and I thought it might be helpful for

[1:12:53] us too because maybe people will ask

[1:12:55] questions that we didn't even think

[1:12:56] about asking. Um even though I know

[1:12:58] we've all asked quite a few. What are

[1:13:00] your thoughts on that?

[1:13:02] Can I say um I think that if people if

[1:13:06] Chief Casey is able to get people to

[1:13:09] understand that

[1:13:11] >> in Massachusetts the information is very

[1:13:14] it's very controlled what they're

[1:13:17] allowed to use it for. And he gave me

[1:13:19] very compelling reasons why. And I I see

[1:13:21] it all over this. The the chiefs want it

[1:13:25] for

[1:13:27] in law enforcement. And I don't think

[1:13:29] that that's a bad thing. My the problem

[1:13:31] is is is the bad actors that can get

[1:13:34] their hands on it. This is the issue and

[1:13:36] people if people had some asurances

[1:13:40] >> of that. I mean I how do we put how do

[1:13:43] we put any kind of guard rails on it or

[1:13:45] whatever because I mean everybody wants

[1:13:48] to pull them down. I don't think that's

[1:13:50] going to work because right behind the

[1:13:52] flock cameras are the axon light poles.

[1:13:54] So, I'm just saying they're going to

[1:13:55] watch us one way or the other. Yeah.

[1:13:57] >> And it's not necessarily a bad thing

[1:13:58] that they can catch bad guys.

[1:14:01] >> They shouldn't be watching me. I mean,

[1:14:03] I'm I'm not a bad guy. I'm just saying

[1:14:05] you you can think of me what you want,

[1:14:06] but I you know, that's the problem.

[1:14:08] They're watching people that don't need

[1:14:10] to be watched,

[1:14:11] >> right?

[1:14:11] >> Yeah.

[1:14:12] >> So,

[1:14:13] >> may caution the board because this is

[1:14:14] >> we're not we're not voting on this. I'm

[1:14:17] just asking generally what what people's

[1:14:20] um

[1:14:21] >> I think we should have the forum. I

[1:14:22] think it'd be an excellent idea to have

[1:14:25] a a free exchange of information under

[1:14:27] control under, you know, we can't have

[1:14:29] people going nuts.

[1:14:30] >> Okay. Well, I think um

[1:14:33] we'll we'll have um we'll have Miss

[1:14:36] Walcott, Mrs. Walcott, work with the

[1:14:38] chief on dates and we'll circle back the

[1:14:41] next time we meet on the first and we'll

[1:14:42] take a vote one way or the other. The

[1:14:44] other option was frankly to put it on

[1:14:46] our agenda as a select board meeting

[1:14:49] agenda. And frankly, this is a very

[1:14:51] small and and again this could be a

[1:14:53] tempest in a teapot. It could be people

[1:14:55] reaching out to me that have no

[1:14:56] intention of coming to anything that we

[1:14:58] might hold. I don't know. But I just

[1:15:00] thought it would be a good opportunity.

[1:15:02] And I know you had some serious

[1:15:03] concerns. I know we've all had people

[1:15:05] contacting us. Um and um and again I

[1:15:09] think what really really I thought wow

[1:15:12] um I've got people like such a diverse

[1:15:15] group of people contacting me that this

[1:15:17] is this is resonating with a lot of

[1:15:21] people in town and since we are supposed

[1:15:24] to be representing them I want to make

[1:15:26] sure that we're hearing what their

[1:15:27] concerns are and I thought a forum would

[1:15:29] be the best way to do it instead of a

[1:15:34] just kind of crazy select board meeting.

[1:15:38] So, we'll put it on the agenda for the

[1:15:40] first and we can talk about it, but um I will just say the chief was open to

[1:15:46] it. Um honest and this is something

[1:15:49] again just an update. No uh no vote

[1:15:52] needed. Um you will recall we had talked

[1:15:55] to Whitman and uh the regional school

[1:15:58] district about the fact that we would

[1:16:00] like to have the district audited. We

[1:16:03] had come up with a letter. we sent back

[1:16:05] some changes and then it just sort of

[1:16:08] that Carl left and there was some

[1:16:10] turnover and now Justin is the person

[1:16:12] we're dealing with and I'm not blaming

[1:16:14] this on Justin because it's got nothing

[1:16:15] to do with him but there was just a

[1:16:17] change of guard and and a few other

[1:16:19] things uh popped up. Um, so I emailed

[1:16:23] everybody and said, "Could we get this

[1:16:24] back on track cuz we still want that

[1:16:26] audit even though um, you know, it's we

[1:16:30] we've got the right people in place now.

[1:16:32] We still need to restore faith, know

[1:16:35] what happened, etc., etc." So, um, we're

[1:16:37] meeting the three of us to hammer out

[1:16:41] um, a tweaked letter and I will present

[1:16:44] it to you guys on uh, September 1st, but

[1:16:47] I just wanted to let you know I'm

[1:16:48] meeting with them and that I have not

[1:16:49] forgotten about it. Thank you.

[1:16:51] >> Okay. Um All right. Then that brings us

[1:16:53] to economic development committee. Um we

[1:16:56] had a great meeting last week. Um mostly

[1:16:59] about Hansen uh day, but uh Mr. Devryas

[1:17:02] uh continues to make progress on um

[1:17:05] getting us um Oh yeah. So that's an

[1:17:10] article that we might want to ask Mr.

[1:17:12] DeFryas about. Um Mr. Devias is making

[1:17:15] great strides in getting the um

[1:17:19] industrial the two industrial park

[1:17:21] properties kind of primed and ready to

[1:17:23] either lease or sell whatever this board

[1:17:26] decides they want to do with it um or

[1:17:28] sit on it if we decide we don't want to

[1:17:30] do either of those things. And then

[1:17:32] similarly, he's um uh got some um irons

[1:17:35] in the fire for the light control

[1:17:37] building, not to sell but to lease. um

[1:17:40] and he's got some estimates from a

[1:17:43] gentleman who is going to appraise the

[1:17:45] properties and we need to have that

[1:17:47] information in either in order for this

[1:17:49] board to make an intelligent decision.

[1:17:52] It was a very modest amount. Um it was

[1:17:56] like $2,000 for each property. One of

[1:17:58] them might be might have been slightly

[1:18:00] more than that, but could you reach out

[1:18:02] to him and see if that is um a a warrant

[1:18:05] article that we should be putting on

[1:18:06] because we really need to move forward

[1:18:09] with funding the assessment, the

[1:18:11] appraisal of those properties so that

[1:18:14] this board and the economic development

[1:18:16] so the economic development committee

[1:18:18] can make recommendations to this board

[1:18:20] and we can decide as a board what the

[1:18:22] heck we're going to do with those

[1:18:23] properties. um they have tremendous

[1:18:25] potential um to either bring in one-time

[1:18:28] money or lease and we've got to sort of

[1:18:30] weighs the pro weigh the pros and the

[1:18:32] cons but before we do any of that we

[1:18:34] need an appraisal so um if you don't

[1:18:36] mind reaching out to him about that okay

[1:18:39] um and um we were visited uh by the

[1:18:42] manager from uh the new branch manager

[1:18:44] from Morland Trust which was quite

[1:18:46] lovely um and um and Lorie Cook um

[1:18:51] joined us who owns the Hitching Post for

[1:18:53] her first meeting um since being

[1:18:55] appointed. So, we're on we're on to good

[1:18:57] stuff. J Mari is a rock star. I tell her

[1:18:59] that far too often, but um she really

[1:19:02] is. She's doing a bangup job organizing

[1:19:04] everything for Hansen Day and my

[1:19:06] appreciation goes out to her and that's

[1:19:08] all I've got on that. Um Mr. Weeks,

[1:19:11] >> nothing since last time. We're going to

[1:19:12] have our meeting with the new G group in

[1:19:14] September.

[1:19:15] >> Amazing. Yeah. All right. Um highway

[1:19:17] committee, what's happening? We have a

[1:19:18] meeting

[1:19:20] when they uh Thursday maybe on the 20th.

[1:19:23] >> Okay.

[1:19:23] >> Coming up.

[1:19:24] >> All right. Cool. And oh boy.

[1:19:27] >> Uh

[1:19:27] >> oh. Go again.

[1:19:29] >> Oh boy.

[1:19:30] >> No. No. So um I just a couple we're

[1:19:32] meeting tomorrow for the um Whitman

[1:19:34] Hansen regional uh agreement committee.

[1:19:36] So, um, the things I'm going to talk

[1:19:38] about, um, from our side is the feedback

[1:19:40] that I got last week from everybody

[1:19:42] about not having a strict capital item

[1:19:44] in the spring town meeting, but more

[1:19:45] language in there that says, you know,

[1:19:47] the boards should meet be well before

[1:19:49] the town meeting to kind of come up with

[1:19:51] capital items. Um, in the meantime, um,

[1:19:53] one of the other discussion items is the

[1:19:55] payment schedule, um, to the school from

[1:19:58] the towns. That is going to be

[1:20:00] discussion. Um so right now the payment

[1:20:03] schedule for um each of the I go oh

[1:20:07] there it is is um August 1st, November

[1:20:10] 1st, February 1st and April 1st of each

[1:20:12] um fiscal year just to give the tax

[1:20:14] payment to the town. Um one thing that I

[1:20:16] think they're going to want to do is

[1:20:18] change the April 1st to be a May 1 date

[1:20:20] instead of April 1st to line up with our

[1:20:23] um with closer to the end of the school

[1:20:24] year. Um, so I was wondering if I can

[1:20:27] get some feedback from the board about

[1:20:28] um changing that from April 1st to May

[1:20:31] 1st if that was something that they were

[1:20:32] interested in. Um, I talked with Eric um

[1:20:35] earlier today. He said that actually

[1:20:36] works out better for us because we get

[1:20:38] our um tax uh receipts on May 1st,

[1:20:42] right?

[1:20:42] >> Um and he said not we can change he said

[1:20:45] we can change these dates to

[1:20:46] theoretically whatever we want because

[1:20:48] we have the cash that will be able to

[1:20:49] pay on that time. So um I was just

[1:20:51] looking for feedback from the board

[1:20:53] opinion on that.

[1:20:54] >> I I think it's fine. And I the only

[1:20:55] other person I would check with I think

[1:20:57] I mentioned to you was Lisa like is

[1:20:59] there Lisa Clark is there interest that

[1:21:01] we're getting that we wouldn't get I

[1:21:03] don't it's not a huge game changer

[1:21:05] unless you know she says like oh my god

[1:21:07] we missed out on so much interest but

[1:21:09] you know but conceptually I don't I

[1:21:11] don't have a problem with it. Do you

[1:21:14] need a vote on that?

[1:21:15] >> Um no I don't think we need a vote on

[1:21:16] it. Um I I don't I I So I'm and in

[1:21:21] future times I'm going to do I'm going

[1:21:22] to do a better job myself of bringing

[1:21:25] stuff to you guys before I talk to the

[1:21:27] rack just to get the feedback before

[1:21:28] just so we get a tone of the board. So

[1:21:30] um the meeting dates in the past just

[1:21:32] really haven't lined up that way. Um the

[1:21:34] second thing is I'm going to talk to um

[1:21:36] Dr. Marcus and Mr. Trussell about um

[1:21:39] past warrant articles that haven't been

[1:21:40] expended yet from the school district.

[1:21:42] Yep. And um one thing that I think we

[1:21:44] could get ahead with with um you know

[1:21:46] the the capital mismatch is um having

[1:21:50] funding the stabilization account in

[1:21:51] October. Um and that does two things. It makes it so if we have a expense that

[1:21:57] needs to be funded in May that's shared

[1:21:58] between both towns. We have the capital

[1:22:00] do that and it also gains interest on

[1:22:02] the capital if we appropriate in

[1:22:04] October.

[1:22:05] >> It's been our intention. We started to

[1:22:06] lean into stabilization and then you

[1:22:09] know things got tough as usual. Um but

[1:22:12] um we we did have some regular around

[1:22:14] that. So uh I think it would be good to

[1:22:16] get back to that. What what was the

[1:22:17] ballpark on what you thought you might

[1:22:19] have?

[1:22:19] >> The ballpark was close. It was it was

[1:22:21] give or uh give or take a couple

[1:22:23] thousand dollars off of $100,000 total

[1:22:25] that they haven't expended yet, which

[1:22:26] would be more than enough to cover the

[1:22:28] um the paving that they're looking for

[1:22:29] us to fund in October.

[1:22:31] >> Um

[1:22:32] >> so I I I'm going to talk with Dr. Marcus

[1:22:35] and Mr. trussle to figure out if I can

[1:22:36] get an answer on these of what's been

[1:22:38] expended, what's coming in, if they just

[1:22:39] forgot to expend it um before the town

[1:22:42] meeting. So my my intention would be if

[1:22:44] they have, you know, $60,000 in here

[1:22:46] that they haven't expended, um we can

[1:22:48] just go ahead and move that $60,000 from

[1:22:50] the previous town meeting articles into

[1:22:51] the stabilization in October. So we have

[1:22:53] a little bit of a head start coming into

[1:22:55] May next year where we where if we're in

[1:22:57] a tough financial situation, um we still

[1:23:00] have a little bit of capital for shed

[1:23:01] expenses that we can still do.

[1:23:03] >> I think it's a great idea. Does anybody

[1:23:04] have any problems with that?

[1:23:06] >> Great work, Frank. Thank you.

[1:23:07] >> Thank you. That's all I got.

[1:23:09] >> And other committee updates, which is

[1:23:11] rather vague, but I don't know if we had

[1:23:13] any other committee updates. All right.

[1:23:14] And then that brings us to the town

[1:23:16] administrator report.

[1:23:17] >> Okay. Um, madam chair, vice chair,

[1:23:19] members of the board. Um, so the past

[1:23:22] week is

[1:23:24] I don't I don't know people are must be

[1:23:26] hungry for information because we've

[1:23:28] received quite a quite a few um public

[1:23:31] records requests. So the IT director and

[1:23:32] myself have been working on uh

[1:23:34] responding to these public records

[1:23:36] requests. Um we went over early talked

[1:23:40] about the uh department submitting the

[1:23:42] articles for October special meeting.

[1:23:44] Again the deadline for the articles is

[1:23:46] Thursday, October, I'm sorry, August

[1:23:48] 20th for 12 noon. Um, and I'm happy to

[1:23:51] just report to our assistant town

[1:23:54] assessor um has been taking courses um

[1:23:58] so that he can be certified as a U

[1:24:01] Massachusetts accredited assessor. So he

[1:24:04] has completed su successfully completed

[1:24:07] the principles of assessing procedures

[1:24:09] course um it's a primary required course

[1:24:11] towards earning that certification. So

[1:24:14] um congratulations to him for that. Um

[1:24:16] he's taken four classes and he has four

[1:24:19] left. Um and he's doing a great job um

[1:24:22] with passing all those courses. Um I've

[1:24:25] been working on the highway facility

[1:24:27] building project request for proposals

[1:24:29] for the owners um project manager. Um

[1:24:32] it's a lengthy document. I do have a few

[1:24:35] templates from other towns that I'm

[1:24:37] working with. Um it's just putting it

[1:24:39] and fashioning it together to match what

[1:24:41] Hansen needs. So I am working on that.

[1:24:44] And um when the highway building

[1:24:46] committee meets next Thursday, uh we're

[1:24:48] going to be talking about the timeline

[1:24:49] on the request for proposals. Um so we

[1:24:52] can kind of button that up and get that

[1:24:54] going.

[1:24:55] >> Um I'd like to provide an update on the

[1:24:58] building commissioner recruiting. Um

[1:25:01] interviews were held with um two

[1:25:04] candidates, myself and the and one of

[1:25:06] our interim building commissioners um

[1:25:08] sat and interviewed two candidates. Um I

[1:25:11] do plan to bring one candidate um on

[1:25:14] September 1st towards the board for

[1:25:15] consideration. Um he is comes with lots

[1:25:20] of experience. Um our actually our IT

[1:25:24] director worked with him uh many years

[1:25:26] ago and has nothing but raves things to

[1:25:28] say about him. Um I have checked out

[1:25:30] references that have come back again u

[1:25:32] with rave. So um he's one candidate. Um

[1:25:35] we do have our posting still out there

[1:25:37] so we'll see if anything else comes in.

[1:25:39] Um, we we do get other candidate

[1:25:42] applications, but they are not certified

[1:25:44] building officials, which is a

[1:25:46] difference. There's a difference between

[1:25:47] a building commissioner doing what a

[1:25:48] local inspector can do, and we're

[1:25:50] looking for a building commissioner.

[1:25:52] >> Um, for the veterans benefits

[1:25:54] administrator position,

[1:25:57] uh, we had three candidates for the

[1:25:59] position. Uh three were interviewed. Two

[1:26:02] of them were invited back for a second

[1:26:04] interview with the um our veterans

[1:26:07] service officers with Terrence. Um one

[1:26:10] candidate did possess uh more

[1:26:12] qualifications and had an understanding

[1:26:14] of chapter 115

[1:26:16] um about the process um that was the

[1:26:18] focus for the second interview. Um I do

[1:26:23] hope to bring him forward in the near

[1:26:24] future. Uh he is still active in the

[1:26:26] military. he is going to be retiring

[1:26:28] toward the end of the year. Uh we are

[1:26:31] kind of just waiting on that date of

[1:26:33] retirement. So as soon as we know that

[1:26:35] date, I will uh bring that candidate

[1:26:37] before the board for consideration.

[1:26:38] >> And is and our veteran services officer

[1:26:41] is comfortable with that approach.

[1:26:42] >> Oh yes. Yes. Absolutely.

[1:26:44] >> Well, we want somebody he feels he can

[1:26:46] work with, right?

[1:26:47] >> Oh, yes. Yeah. Absolutely. Um in the

[1:26:50] meantime, what we're doing is um Mrs.

[1:26:53] Zenis is going to be working um with him

[1:26:56] 5 hours a week uh to provide clerical

[1:26:59] support. Uh so she will answer the

[1:27:02] phones um she will um make appointments

[1:27:06] and she's going to assist with some some

[1:27:08] um projects that he has not been able to

[1:27:10] get to. So she will do that five hours a

[1:27:12] week starting this week um until we get

[1:27:15] that other position um you know hired.

[1:27:18] Right.

[1:27:18] >> Um so the MBTA polis will be doing some

[1:27:22] work on the commuter rail tracks on Main

[1:27:24] Street. Um Friday, August 14th through

[1:27:27] Saturday the 15th, Main Street will be

[1:27:30] closed. Um and we do have some of the

[1:27:32] signs up around town to let people know

[1:27:34] that in advance. Um I don't know the

[1:27:37] exact times, but um I do believe more

[1:27:39] information is going to be out there on

[1:27:40] the exact times.

[1:27:42] >> I think they did post the exact times on

[1:27:44] some of the postings

[1:27:46] and police department. Yeah, I mean it

[1:27:48] was just to get that out there.

[1:27:49] >> Not this week, but the prior week it was

[1:27:51] a bit of a

[1:27:52] >> Well, I can't use the term I normally

[1:27:54] would.

[1:27:55] >> Yeah, it was a little we'll just say it

[1:27:57] was it was a little disjointed. Um and

[1:28:01] um that uh they've now got their act

[1:28:03] together for this coming weekend.

[1:28:05] >> Yes. So, you know, folks, if you're

[1:28:06] listening out there, please be aware. Um

[1:28:09] >> there will be detours and then Main

[1:28:11] Street, a lot of Main Street will be

[1:28:13] closed. Uh there's also utility work

[1:28:15] being done on Mccoan Street in the

[1:28:18] vicinity of Library and Senior Center.

[1:28:20] The last couple of days there's been a

[1:28:22] lot of confusion because of the way

[1:28:23] they've got the road blocked off from

[1:28:25] Mccoan um down to School Street.

[1:28:28] >> Uh people actually can enter School

[1:28:30] Street from Indian Head to access the

[1:28:33] library and senior, but because they put

[1:28:35] cones there instead of road closed that

[1:28:37] is provide that's causing a lot of

[1:28:38] confusion. So, highway and police have

[1:28:42] been working together to get a sign out

[1:28:44] there um that says like local traffic.

[1:28:48] Um but that's what how people can

[1:28:50] access. Um I understand that this road

[1:28:53] this work should be done in a couple of

[1:28:54] days. Um it's it's a contractor for uh

[1:28:57] Eversource.

[1:28:59] >> Um yes, but I think Mr. Jasmine said

[1:29:01] they'll be coming back in two to three

[1:29:03] weeks and doing more work and he's going

[1:29:06] to coordinate that and he's hoping that

[1:29:08] they'll Eversource will be more

[1:29:10] proactive and communicating so that we

[1:29:12] in turn can be more proactive in

[1:29:14] communicating.

[1:29:15] >> Um I I don't have the exact information

[1:29:18] on that yet, but we're we're following

[1:29:20] them closely to make sure we have better

[1:29:21] communication.

[1:29:22] >> Yeah. And I sent that to Mary Collins

[1:29:24] and Karen um just because I thought they

[1:29:27] might want to put on their various you

[1:29:30] know Facebook and website like they they

[1:29:32] might so Karen said she was going to

[1:29:34] update for for their

[1:29:35] >> Yeah. And Lieutenant Durgen um did

[1:29:38] provide an email with she was out

[1:29:40] yesterday and this morning and provided

[1:29:42] an email of what they're going to do to

[1:29:44] make the communication.

[1:29:44] >> You should double check that she's

[1:29:46] copying them on that.

[1:29:48] >> I sent She sent it to me and I sent it

[1:29:50] to them.

[1:29:51] >> All right. Okay. I I sent them to make

[1:29:52] sure they had it.

[1:29:54] >> Um

[1:29:56] uh let's see. So, I guess police and

[1:29:59] fire are also going to post about the um

[1:30:02] high the uh MBTA and then the highway, I

[1:30:06] mean the uh senior center library about

[1:30:08] >> I actually want to do a shout out to

[1:30:09] Chief O'Brien um because when things

[1:30:13] jumped the track a couple of weeks ago,

[1:30:16] um you know, um it w um our highway

[1:30:21] director had gone there to the tracks,

[1:30:24] literally to the MBTA tracks and said um

[1:30:27] to the guys that were there, hey, you

[1:30:29] know, like, okay, we're going to do like

[1:30:30] little detour. And they're like, no, no, You need to shut down all of 27.

[1:30:35] >> So, Richard called or like this chunk of

[1:30:38] 27th. You can't just have people going

[1:30:40] around. So, Richard called Robbie and

[1:30:43] said, "Uh, we got a problem here." And

[1:30:46] I, you know, I know this won't surprise

[1:30:48] anybody who knows Chief O'Brien because

[1:30:50] we all love him. Um but he stepped right

[1:30:53] in and went down there and said the you

[1:30:56] can't do the work because all the

[1:30:58] ambulances um take a certain route and

[1:31:02] you didn't tell us that you were going

[1:31:04] to try to shut down Route 27. So we

[1:31:07] didn't tell them. So now you're going to

[1:31:09] have people in ambulances and life or

[1:31:11] death situations. We can't do it. You're

[1:31:13] going to have to reschedu. So again, I

[1:31:16] thank um you know, Chief O'Brien for his

[1:31:18] leadership. Of course, we wouldn't

[1:31:19] expect anything different, but it

[1:31:21] happened at a time when Chief Ca Casey

[1:31:23] happened to be on vacation and it was

[1:31:26] quite a little monkey wrench, but as

[1:31:27] usual, our guys work well together. They

[1:31:30] stepped right up and handled it.

[1:31:31] >> So, the work wasn't done at all.

[1:31:32] >> The work was not done because

[1:31:34] >> didn't do the proper notice or

[1:31:36] >> Correct. Yeah. I tried to be diplomatic

[1:31:38] when I posted about it, but I and not

[1:31:41] throw them under the bus, but there's

[1:31:42] really no way to say like they just

[1:31:44] didn't. and and in part, you know, they

[1:31:47] said, "Well, we got

[1:31:48] >> we kind of got orders from above that we

[1:31:51] needed to make this a priority."

[1:31:53] >> So then in my mind, I was like, "Well,

[1:31:56] maybe I'm a little bit to blame because

[1:31:57] I had asked Ken Sweezy. I had asked

[1:32:00] Kenzie to turn up the heat on it and he

[1:32:02] did." And then they

[1:32:03] >> But then you got to give us time to

[1:32:05] >> It is all staged in the MBTA parking

[1:32:07] lot.

[1:32:09] I drive by it every morning. So

[1:32:11] >> yeah. Um so this is the weekend. It's

[1:32:14] slated to happen and um everybody's

[1:32:18] coordinated. Chief O'Brien communicated

[1:32:20] with everybody, so we're good to go. But

[1:32:22] I just really want to recognize his

[1:32:24] leadership.

[1:32:26] >> Um and I would like to also recognize we

[1:32:29] have um Alex Sergeant of Troop Troop 34

[1:32:34] um who will be receiving his Eagle Scout

[1:32:37] honor on August 29. So he led the

[1:32:41] project um over at the Thomas Mill

[1:32:43] building to remove and replace the guard

[1:32:46] rails around the like the waterway over

[1:32:48] there.

[1:32:49] >> Looks good. Yeah.

[1:32:50] >> Um so I do, you know, want to recognize

[1:32:52] him. He will be receiving that honor on

[1:32:54] August 29th during a ceremony at the

[1:32:56] First Congressional Church. Um so

[1:32:58] congratulations to him on that

[1:33:00] achievement.

[1:33:01] >> And we hope to have a representative,

[1:33:03] >> right? Yes. Um and that concludes my

[1:33:06] town administrator report.

[1:33:07] >> All right. Well, great. Um then I will

[1:33:09] entertain a motion to adjurnn. Um and do

[1:33:13] we have anything to discuss in executive

[1:33:15] session? We do not.

[1:33:18] >> Then I will entertain a motion to

[1:33:19] adjurnn. Um so moved. Okay. Second. All

[1:33:23] >> in favor? Great.

Hanson Select Board - August 11, 2026 Meeting.

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