[0:00] October 5th, 2026 to order.

[0:04] Uh-huh. Michael Wolf, Tracy Witt here. Bill Asby, oh, absent Ron

[0:12] Devilson, Tony Skaggs, Mayor Dan Eckstein, City Attorney Tyler Rothstein, Cork Treasurer

[0:19] Dana Watley here.

[0:25] Approval of the agenda for October 5th, 2026.

[0:32] Yeah

[0:36] Make a motion to approve the agenda as published. 2nd.

[0:42] All right, Michael Wolf, Tracy Witt, Ron Duddleson, Tony Skaggs.

[0:50] Tony Skaggs, yes, for real.

[0:53] OK, if we could please stand for the pledge.

[1:00] Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic

[1:06] for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice

[1:13] for all.

[1:18] That's what happens when you get old. I share. Approve the uh minutes meeting from

[1:26] September 8th, 2026.

[1:46] Any questions?

[1:52] Make a motion we accept the minutes published.

[1:58] OK. OK. Michael Wolf, Tracy Webb, Ron Daddelson, Tony Skaggs, 40.

[2:10] All business. Second reading of Ordinance 202607.

[2:18] The um 2027 budget. This will be the second reading in adoption.

[2:30] We had our public hearing last month.

[2:34] Any questions?

[2:38] Comments

[2:41] And or concerns.

[2:49] I'm gonna entertain emotion. When you're ready.

[3:07] Just to remind, if your budget is not approved by December, no, by November

[3:15] 2nd, November 2nd, we will convert to last year's or this year's budget for next

[3:20] year, just, just a reminder.

[3:34] Mayor, I'll make a motion that we uh accept the budget as written.

[3:42] I will say it. OK. Michael Wolf, Tracy Whit, Tony Skaggs, Ron Duddleston.

[3:53] 31. OK. Also last month or actually we

[4:01] discussed uh. The uh approval of the water meters that we're placing 500, you guys

[4:08] got copies of those, uh, the invoice.

[4:16] Which part of the new um

[4:20] Software that we got the. We had, I think actually approximately 500 m that weren't

[4:26] reading because of the, uh, the age of the meters. So, um, conversations one on one,

[4:33] that's what was discussed. Uh, so there's an invoice to officially approve. To replace

[4:41] that. And I will talk later on in the meeting about um What the report goes to

[4:49] that the new software, the new program has already helped um. That replacement of

[4:56] these meters will be a part of Amy um being able to detect if somebody has a leak,

[5:04] because right now they're not, so.

[5:09] Any questions?

[5:21] No questions. I'd entertain a motion.

[5:29] I'll make the motion. OK. Tracy made the motion. I'll sack it. OK,

[5:37] Michael Wolf, Tracy Wett, Ron Duddelson, Tony Skaggs.

[5:45] Thank you.

[5:50] New business It's that time of year. Cindy is here to talk about trick or treat.

[5:59] Uh And she's excited. I can tell that.

[6:05] Good to see you everybody. It's that time again of year, of course, and uh trunk

[6:08] retreat will be coming. I believe you all have flyers in your folders. Kind of spell

[6:12] out what's going on, but it's going to be. Um, and Monica does a wonderful job with

[6:18] the graphics. So it's going to be Saturday, October 24th. From 6:30 to 8:30 uptown

[6:25] around the square, it's gonna be on the, the west, north and east side of the courthouse

[6:30] as before. Um, last year we had 65 trunks and I'm guessing roughly, we're not even

[6:36] really quite sure the number about 2000 children. So we expect that number this year,

[6:40] hopefully. And, uh, as of today, which is just September 5th, we have 32 trunks already.

[6:47] So it's moving along very quickly, uh, with that goes, um. We have spooky music that

[6:54] we play for one of our council members, uh, Brian Ross does. And then we also have

[6:59] the Presbyterian Church along with the Lutheran Church that gives out free hot dogs

[7:03] and snacks and water. And then we also give out uh prizes for best costumes and best

[7:10] trunks. So if anybody wants to enter, feel free, let me know. Or donate. We're good

[7:17] with donations too as well, or, or both, or both, yeah, absolutely both. Um, we also

[7:23] are gonna have, um, a, a little girls dance group will be up there as well participating.

[7:29] And then the Magic Corner will be doing treats and snacks and games as well. And

[7:34] then in addition to that, we have the city police and the county police are doing

[7:38] the haunted jail at the corner of Monroe and, and Main, which is gonna be fun. It's

[7:44] gonna be kind of Around the same time, but a little bit different time, about an

[7:48] hour later, but um it'll be up there going on when it's going on, so it should be

[7:52] a fun time. We always pray for good weather. So we see what we get and that's it.

[7:58] I think what you have in there is something regarding the street closures that we

[8:02] need. You got this. You guys got a copy of that. The same as my address went across

[8:07] High Street from black and black. Washington to Main and then Main Street from

[8:15] High to Monroe, and then Jefferson Street from Washington to Franklin. Pretty much

[8:20] the same as before. So no changes there, Jeff, so it's kind of a wrap.

[8:28] We just need to make sure that uh Jeff, when, when would you have those uh barricades

[8:32] up so we could put those up? It's on Saturday. We'll, we'll have them up there. Probably

[8:38] Friday. OK. So, you

[8:44] OK, and then the only other thing that I really think is make sure we've got plenty

[8:47] of trash cans up there which I believe were good, but just make sure the other thing

[8:52] too is we're gonna need a couple cones. In front of OBs. Just one spot they're gonna

[8:58] do a trunk too, but so that people, you know, can go in and out if they want to go

[9:02] in there to eat as well. And then I guess the other question I have is police, the

[9:07] police are able to help with, Maybe crowd control a little bit. They were good with

[9:13] doing that last year. We can do what we can. OK, OK, right, right.

[9:21] They were very helpful last year. I mean, you guys had a wonderful display last year.

[9:27] You have the party.

[9:33] And, and that and then basically just helping if you can help put the barricades

[9:36] up because uh we don't have a lot of strong manpower with us we're 3 women and 1

[9:41] guy so yeah so that's pretty much it. So thank you very much. Well thank you and

[9:48] I'll be here before we know it. OK, thanks awesome thank you.

[9:56] Yes.

[10:00] of the jail

[10:04] all the way down Main Street and then it turns down the road anyway when you get

[10:08] the line to get into it. I think it's a good idea that way with the jail being involved,

[10:14] the old jail being involved now, I just think maybe we can close that off there as

[10:17] well. Well, what we've had so far, we've had wars be there until this year. Um, it

[10:22] ends up snaking around the road all the way down to Franklin, so it's just trying

[10:27] to control it. We don't want any children to get hurt, obviously, so that's the main

[10:31] concern.

[10:45] From, from, from Maine to Franklin is what you're saying from Rome from Maine to

[10:49] Franklin. No, I'm sorry, from Washington. Oh, OK. OK, so that

[10:56] that might be good. I, uh, I've always been concerned about somebody. Refresh my

[10:59] memory because I know the last two years they've come in different directions. One

[11:04] year, Cindy, they were coming in off of Jefferson and the line went back forever.

[11:08] And then was it last year we ran it through Monroe Street. That's what I thought.

[11:13] OK. Did it, did it block Franklin? Did it go on down Monroe to Franklin and did it

[11:19] wrap, or I can't remember. It wrapped all the way around Monroe and Franklin. Should

[11:24] we? OK, OK. That was my concern, OK. OK, so I might wanna entertain that too, guys,

[11:32] I guess maybe recommend a motion maybe give Jeff the latitude, yeah, um, and, and

[11:39] fire to go and make a sound decision. yep, and I'm gonna make that motion, Mayor,

[11:45] uh, Ronnie, are you OK with, I know you're on this approval form. Are you guys good?

[11:52] All right, thank you. All righty, so that they can get out easily if possible. So

[11:58] I'll make a motion we accept the street closure and let these guys earn their money,

[12:04] basically. I'll take it. OK, Michael Wolf. Hi Tracy Witt. Hi, Ron Duddleston.

[12:12] Hi Tony Skaggs. 40. Thank you. OK, thank you, Cindy.

[12:21] In the union.

[12:26] Counseling, we've

[12:29] We've set up before you guys wanna set up this year?

[12:35] I'd say so, yes.

[12:39] Put us, put us in, Cindy and Tracy dress up. I'm sorry. Well, that's so nice of her.

[12:47] Oh, OK. I, I, I thought I felt some pressure, but I wasn't sure. Thank you. OK.

[12:57] Hey Ron, yes ma'am, are you gonna have a separate, uh, thing from, from the clerk's

[13:02] office, or is it all gonna be joint? It's just joint client. You, so Kim put us in

[13:06] with the clerk's office from the county. Yes, no, we want our separate. OK, got you.

[13:12] So you, so you can add one, yeah, yeah, I mean, we're special. All sorts of special.

[13:19] We're special, aren't we, Tony? I think so.

[13:24] OK, we'll move on to the um B uh the ordinance

[13:31] 2026-08 2027 salary ordinance.

[13:46] Oh my goodness

[13:54] Just so everybody does know that we did a, just a 1% increase across the board, so.

[14:01] Very minimal.

[14:25] Any discussions, questions?

[14:47] With intended motion if. Chance to look it over.

[15:21] Sure

[15:44] You think El Presidente? Hm, what do you think? You thinking? I'm not thinking anything.

[15:51] I'm just sitting here.

[16:10] I

[16:19] Yeah

[16:23] Mayor, I'll go ahead and make a motion we accept this. OK. Get the motion.

[16:33] I'll second.

[16:37] Michael Wolf, Tracy Wood, Tony Skaggs, Ron Devilstone, no.

[16:44] Through you.

[16:47] Next is the.

[16:53] Go to see um ordinance regarding claims that have got late fees with financial

[17:00] charges. That ordinance is 2026-09. I was able to number that before between. Yeah,

[17:07] I'll, I'll take the lead on this one really briefly. Uh, for the council. So essentially,

[17:12] Dana came up to me, if you recall back in April, May, there was a, uh, an ordinance

[17:18] approved by everyone for the use of a credit card for the court treasurer as well

[17:21] as the mayor. Um, as part of that ordinance, there was not uh allowed uh for prepayment

[17:28] before approval by the board of Works, as you know, the city gets an invoice for

[17:32] something, it gets approved by either us or the board of works or you or the board

[17:36] of works, and then it's paid. Um, there are situations that come up, Dana reports

[17:40] in which a bill is due, say on the 4th or on the 5th, and there's a late fee of a

[17:47] percentage or other items. Uh, before either this council meets or the board of works

[17:52] meets. So what's ended up happening is, uh, the city is incurring a late fee, um,

[17:58] then it gets approved, but it's still costing the city money. So, um, fortunately

[18:03] or not fortunately, um, this happens to towns. Cities all over, uh, Indiana. In Indiana

[18:09] statute allows, uh, an ordinance, but it needs to be passed first, approving for

[18:15] the prepayment of certain expenditures, uh, and the list is enumerated right there

[18:20] on the ordinance, and this is the exact list verbatim from the statute. Uh, that

[18:25] can be allowed prepayment first so the court can go ahead and pay these, so there's

[18:28] no incurring of a late fee, uh, and then subsequent approval or, uh, by whichever

[18:33] board or whichever counsel, uh, after the fact. So, those are licenses or permit

[18:38] fees, insurance premiums, property purchased by the US government, utility payments

[18:43] or utility connection charges, federal grant. Programs, grants of state funds, maintenance

[18:49] agreements or service agreements, which I imagine is probably where it comes up the

[18:52] most, um, and we get them through like Comcast, that's the biggie, um, I'm trying

[18:59] to think there's a couple of those types, so that that would be part of it, lease

[19:03] agreements or rental agreements, uh, bond issuance, city payroll, uh, state, federal.

[19:09] County taxes again, I don't know how much it applies here for us, um, but it's part

[19:14] of the statute and then expenses that must be uh paid because of emergency circumstances,

[19:19] uh, and then number 13 is the late payments and that's those are all right from the

[19:24] statute, um, and that's 3654 uh 364814 excuse me,

[19:32] um. There's a scrivener's error on section 3. I need to, I need to switch that statute

[19:37] to 364814. Other than that though, uh, any payment needs to have, uh, itemized claim,

[19:43] invoice or bill. So it's not like Dana can just, or any court treasurer can just

[19:47] go pay it and not see it. It will, it needs to be approved at the subsequent meeting

[19:51] per the statute. Um, so it's just a way in an effort to save money. You don't have

[19:57] to adopt all 1 through 13. I just copied that over right from the statute. This may

[20:03] or may not be germane to the discussion, but RDC, does it fall under this, or do

[20:09] we have to have our own? So this, when I looked up the statute, the statute said

[20:16] it included is the fiscal office, officer of the municipality is the exact words.

[20:22] Um, so I don't believe RDC would fall under this. Uh, I would need to see if they're

[20:27] eligible to do it under the statute. OK, OK. The one good thing I have with RDC is

[20:33] I, since we've appointed you two to for me to reach out to you, that's kind of my

[20:39] fail-safe there. That, that is, that is true, Green. OK, thank you. And with everything

[20:44] in the process and we, it's, it seems to lag. This is, this is an issue. Um, because

[20:50] the department's getting late fees, well, the snail mail, that's another issue with

[20:53] it. So it's just by the time we get the bill and we're able to pay the bill and then

[20:57] they get the, get the payment back, it's, they're trying to force us to go to, you

[21:02] know. You know, direct pay through the bank, and I'm old fashioned. I don't play.

[21:09] So So this is, this is an issue that we're battling department heads are battling,

[21:15] um, so. Yeah, I would encourage you to definitely look at this and, uh, It's

[21:22] still gonna have to be the board of work through that a lot that be processed, you

[21:26] know, it still has to be approved, but they'll still, yeah, everything will still

[21:28] come on a docket. And if it's not enumerated as those 1 through 13, it still cannot

[21:34] be paid under the statute without prior approval.

[21:40] So this is just kind of sprung on you. So if, you know, if uh there's questions or,

[21:45] you know, you. Something that's not knockable 9 you can. You look at it in November

[21:51] if you want, but, OK, Dana, Dana said she really wants it now. I do really want it

[21:57] now just because I've already got late fees that that I'm accruing in different things,

[22:02] and, um, state board of accounts takes the same opinion on late fees as they do sales

[22:08] tax, and I don't want it to turn around and be you gotta pay this out of your own

[22:12] pocket. Not a fan. So do you wanna take a few minutes to look it over? Ask Tyler

[22:19] questions.

[22:23] Michael's shaking his head down. Yeah, I don't see any reason to, to, to, to, to

[22:28] cut them any. Um, that's just my opinion. I just said that just cause we just, you

[22:34] know, just got it, we just wanted to be that, it's something needed.

[22:43] Like I said, there's a, it's a, it's a non-substantive error that I just, I'll switch

[22:49] for Dana, so we'll sign it if you guys approve it. Um, that code section at the very

[22:53] section 3, that's the, it's an identical section, it's for towns instead of cities.

[22:58] So I need to change that to 364814. So I'll send that to Dana. That would be the

[23:02] only change.

[23:05] 36 48 14 and I'm gonna send it to you right now. That's the only thing is that that

[23:12] ordinance is 2026 09. Yes, correct. Thank you.

[23:20] I like a motion that we accept. Ordinance 2026-09 as published.

[23:29] I'll second. Other than that, other than that minor grammatical, yeah, other, other

[23:33] than the, the minor change. In Section 3 under subsequent approval.

[23:41] Michael Wolf. Hi Tracy West. Hi Ron Adelson. Hi Tony Skaggs. Hi. Does this need two

[23:48] readings since Norton's? Once is fine. Once is OK. Yeah, yeah, OK, yeah, wait a

[23:56] second. Pardon me, we don't need to suspend the rules. OK, thank you.

[24:05] I just sent that to you, Dana. So if we just print that out, we can have everybody

[24:08] sign it here and we're good to go. Oh, OK. If you guys will hang afterwards, I'm

[24:14] gonna have to go to my other computer to don't sign this.

[24:18] Yeah, it can't because it's on the 2nd page so it was just, yeah.

[24:24] Mhm. I'm sorry about that. I

[24:30] It's the one OK. You wanna attempt to yours on the on the back end of the. When I

[24:37] come to you for the ADP, I'll go through mine, yeah, because you have someone waiting

[24:42] here for part of what you're talking about, so we've hit the whole agenda, right?

[24:45] You miss anything.

[24:50] Um, just got a couple of things. Last month you guys approved mainstream to have

[24:56] right of way to. Build fiber, um, to his community, um, yes.

[25:05] And Brian is here through mainstream, um, just to talk a little bit about it, answer

[25:12] any questions, you know, it's all one, all one packets, yeah, here's some pricing.

[25:18] So everybody is going to have an option of um

[25:24] Fiber, so, um, met, uh, 2 or 3 weeks ago with, with, with uh department heads and,

[25:31] and your team and, uh, the people who's been doing the project right now going trying

[25:37] to get all the permits and going through that process. So I wanted Brian to come

[25:42] today and just talk about, you know, obviously we're live streaming, talking about

[25:46] the benefits of what this can be, um, for every resident in Hartford City. So I just

[25:53] want to maybe give a, a, just a snapshot of, and I gave them what, what you gave,

[25:59] so. Oh yeah, thank you, Mayor. Um, so as the mayor said, I'm Brian Gabriel, I'm the

[26:03] president of Mainstream Fiber. Um, we are an Indiana-based company. Our offices are

[26:07] in Indiana. Our technicians are in Indiana, and our support is in Indiana at this

[26:11] point. So, um, what we're doing is we're building fiber to communities all over the

[26:16] state, um, and we are excited to partner with Hartford City to build fiber to as

[26:21] much of the city as possible. Um, a majority of that goes on poles, um, but there

[26:26] is some need for underground in certain areas. That's why we're Requesting the access

[26:30] for the right of way underground for the areas um on our permits. Uh this is a true

[26:35] all fiber product all the way to your house. It doesn't, you know, go coax or copper

[26:40] the last half mile. It's a fiber all the way to your house. If you ever look at some

[26:43] of the ads from competitors, they'll say. Fiber powered or fiber enabled, it means

[26:47] it only goes so far and then in terms of different technology kind of thing so um.

[26:53] We're doing this all over, I said, the state, it's, uh, communities are excited about

[26:56] it just to have high-speed internet, um, low latency connections, symmetrical speeds

[27:01] for upload and download. You can stream video, you can have two-way conference calling,

[27:06] even at your house kind of thing, you have a high-quality project. So, um, you know,

[27:10] happy to answer questions or, or go into it and, and thank you for confirming our,

[27:13] our use of the right of way on the permits we've already submitted. Um, as the mayor

[27:18] said, we did meet a couple of weeks ago with utilities group. Just to coordinate

[27:21] locates for the underground part, um, police and fire and those, uh, were present

[27:26] as well. So with our, with our vendors that are gonna be doing that. So we, we try

[27:30] to coordinate this and, and do it right out of the gate. Um, and then any remediation,

[27:35] we'll coordinate with the city too if there's stuff that needs to be fixed or grass

[27:39] grown or those things, we just ask for patience on that as it's hard to grow grass

[27:42] in December in Indiana usually. Um. But again, we're not, you know, if there is an

[27:47] issue, we'll, we'll keep a tally of that and definitely hit it in the spring and

[27:50] clean things up as needed and, and we're here for the long haul. We want customers

[27:54] and partnership, not just, uh, uh, come in and build it and lead kind of thing too.

[27:58] So, um, I think you have the pricing plan in front of you. We try to be competitive

[28:03] if there's a. Lower cost tier that somebody still wants service from us, we try to

[28:07] adhere to that all the way up to kind of the fancy bells and whistles of having,

[28:10] you know, cameras and multiple Wi Fi access points and those kind of things. So we,

[28:15] we manage all that again through our, our teams here in the state. Um, but really

[28:21] wanted to come and say thank you for your, your cooperation with our permits and

[28:25] then, you know, thanks to the mayor's office and the clerk-treasurer for just being

[28:28] great to work with so far. So if you have any questions, I'm happy to try to answer

[28:31] as I can here.

[28:36] When will you be ready to rock and roll to the homeowners? So we're gonna start construction

[28:40] probably the next week or two. Like we have the kickoff meeting and those things.

[28:43] So our goal is to be finished like spring of next year. It could be quicker than

[28:47] that, but it depends on weather and those things. Um, we already have a cabinet here

[28:51] in Hartford City, so what we can do is as we start building the fiber, the places

[28:55] we do build, we'll be able to actually turn on pretty quick. So that is, that is

[28:58] a nice thing to have. It's a Advantage that you guys have over a lot of communities

[29:01] we go into. Um, so I mean, before the end of the year, some people have access to

[29:06] service, but the project should be done in spring. Again, weather dependent and those

[29:09] fun things, so. And the pricing is gonna be similar to this in the spring because

[29:14] I noticed uh there's like a termination date on this of uh 31 October. So yeah, it's

[29:22] a great question. So we, we do a, a promotional flyer every month. It'll be the pricing

[29:25] be very similar, I'd say within a few dollars in the spring. OK, thank you. That's

[29:29] kind of what I thought. Thank you. It's, and then again there's, we try to find the

[29:32] right package fit for the right customer too, you know, what they want as far as

[29:36] perks or not, you know, we can do a very basic connection or again I said the bells

[29:40] and whistles, but yeah, you'll, it'll become very competitive to what it is now,

[29:42] not the same. Great, thank you.

[29:47] So Brian, if I'm viewing on live stream and I'm. Thinking, OK, I just, you know,

[29:52] have internet. If I go to fiber, what's the benefit, um. What's some of the benefits

[29:59] I would get if, if, as a customer if I'm gonna go from, you know, X Y Z, um, so not

[30:06] to get overly technical, but if you think about like copper or coaxial when you have

[30:11] that, that, that's fed by a fiber connection, so the fiber comes into this box and

[30:15] then figured it out from that. So it can get slow when a lot of people are online

[30:20] streaming or watching a game or you have latency where you're, you know, your, your

[30:23] TV buffers, you're trying to watch the IU game and it buffers out and comes back

[30:27] in. Fiber is bringing that node technology all the way to your house, so. It's called,

[30:33] it's a low latency, which means it's, it's moving even quicker than high-speed internet.

[30:37] So having a lot of bandwidth is great, but if it's got high latency, you have that,

[30:41] those pixels, you know, it's just things act up, so it's better than satellite, better

[30:46] than cable. It's, it's Well, recently, the federal government has invested, um, you

[30:50] know, billions of dollars in through the BEAD program to build out throughout the

[30:54] country as far as possible. Um, mainstream is a recipient of some BED dollars too,

[30:58] which is great, but it's really like the gold standard of technology for internet

[31:03] connection. Um Yeah, I mean, I just, you know, local company is nice to deal with

[31:09] for support, um, easy to talk to, understand the areas, and, you know, really good

[31:14] symmetrical speed. So like you may have, um, usually with COA, the upload speed is

[31:18] slower than the download speed. With ours, it's symmetrical. So if you have a gigabit,

[31:22] and you can go up a gig or down a gig. So if you're uploading photos, or back to

[31:26] that live stream like two-way conversation, you don't have those bandwidth limitations

[31:30] like you would with other technologies. Um, those are just a few of the highlights,

[31:33] so.

[31:38] Count on any questions? All I know is I'm looking forward to it because I mean I've

[31:44] got, I've got two different ones because I got T-Mobile and AT&T just to have one

[31:50] for a backup with for when the other goes down because they do go down every time

[31:55] so something that I could get. And the whole area get would, would be very beneficial.

[32:00] I know my doctor said I needed to add fiber to my diet, so this would be even, even

[32:05] more beneficial. I'd get, kill two birds with one stone. I probably should put an

[32:09] asterisk on there, not, not a fiber for fiber, yeah. No, no, and we're, and we're

[32:14] excited to, to work with the city too. I mean we built Montpelier, I think it was

[32:17] the end of last year and those things too. It's been a good, good project for us

[32:20] and we're going all over, like I said, the state. It's, it's, um, you know, it's

[32:23] fun to partner with communities and do this. We, we do ask for patience and we will

[32:27] coordinate, like I said, with utilities for construction. Um, construction can be

[32:31] messy, but we'll take pride in ownership, make sure it gets cleaned up very quickly

[32:34] and any issues we've given the, um, mayor utilities escalation points in our organization

[32:40] to get things remedied quickly if they need to. So, um, yeah, MS fiber.net is our

[32:46] website. You can look at pricing and plans, and you can actually sign up for service

[32:49] now too, I believe we have it turned on for Hertford City. People go ahead and get

[32:52] in the queue to get lined up for actual service. So yeah, again, any other questions

[32:57] about me to come back and talk anytime or, or, you know, meet offline anytime as

[33:01] well. I

[33:06] So what neighborhood are you gonna start with? What neighborhood are you gonna start

[33:10] with? It's a great question. I'll have it in front of me.

[33:15] I wish I had a zoom in and we could zoom for live stream. They could see the pricing,

[33:19] but they are very, very competitive, very competitive. Monica will have these out

[33:23] and just there again, this does, like you said, in the, in the end of the month,

[33:28] but you kind of recycle with promotion. So this will just give it kind of a, a roster

[33:34] of, of what you, uh, what you offer and the benefits and. If anybody wants a copy

[33:40] after me, I can, I'll make copies and at no charge, so, um, with that.

[33:48] You have any last questions? I have, I have a question. In terms of the pricing,

[33:54] is it static for the life of the contract? Is it month to month? So it's, it's month

[34:01] to month, but we don't really typically change prices more than once a year and when

[34:05] we do that's usually minimal and honestly the way the market's going, the prices

[34:10] are coming down more often and they're going up, so we try to maintain competitiveness.

[34:15] So sorry about that. Sure, it's OK. Yeah, take care of.

[34:21] Up time to think can you understand. Yeah, so we, we strive for 100%. I know it's

[34:26] not gonna happen, right? Um, ours is susceptible to when things get hit by a pole

[34:30] gets hit by a truck, it can go down, um, but we also service some commercial clients

[34:36] up here already that are important for us to get back up. So I mean we, we strive

[34:40] for what's called a 99.99 uptime, not guaranteed, but that's what our strive is.

[34:45] But if something happens at 7 o'clock on a Saturday night, people will be out here

[34:49] within a couple of hours to start working on it. I don't mean it's gonna be restored

[34:52] in a couple of hours, but we'll have crews in place to start repairing fiber and

[34:56] those things as well, um, and then we'll have, uh, call support 24/7. You can call

[35:00] in and actually get, you know, support or from the list kind of thing. So yeah, I

[35:05] mean, it's. It's a great question. Usually it only goes down for a bad event where

[35:10] somebody hits a pole or somebody digs up a fiber line, but we do have diverse connections

[35:14] into the city to our, our node there. So again, not bulletproof, but it's, it's very

[35:20] good. So yeah, of course. OK, well, hey, thanks for coming and appreciate it.

[35:30] I'm really, I'm, I'm liking the outdoor Wi Fi booster. If, if I did my math right,

[35:37] Councilman Skaggs could buy this. And I could tie into his because I think we're

[35:42] close enough. What do you think, Tony? I think so, and I would do so for, I don't

[35:47] think it's allowed on the as far as the user agreement, but what I don't know won't

[35:50] hurt me. I'm sure they're out on the radius, and for you, I would do that for 50

[35:55] bucks a month. We'll, we'll talk. We'll talk. OK, we better move on. Thanks, Brian.

[36:03] Yeah, yeah, thank you. Citywide cleanup, uh, this Saturday, um.

[36:11] So we'd love to have you. All participate as possible. Um,

[36:19] so Saturday from 9 to 120 Wyler Plaza. Um, lunch will be provided.

[36:28] So you'll see a video either tonight or tomorrow morning that Dustin and I, um, helping

[36:33] promote. So bring your family, bring your neighbors. It's supposed to be nice weather.

[36:40] Did you see the other item or you decide not to you're not talking about under mayor's

[36:45] report there was another item. Are you talking about that? OK, I still want you to

[36:49] forget it. Yeah, no, it's, it's on my, on my list.

[36:54] Um, we'll just talk about it now. So this is.

[37:01] Do you think it's, it's in bundles um like that's one it's two papers, yeah. So

[37:08] 705 West Franklin, we had, I think you guys, uh, discussed it last week and decided

[37:16] not to move on it. This is what the gentleman's proposing to put.

[37:23] On the property

[37:27] West Franklin. Blackford Development owns 709. Um, so we're, Michael's working on

[37:34] hard that to get, uh, Blackford Development to approve. He wants to put a house that's

[37:38] 1200 square feet. It's gonna play the garage. New construction On a lot

[37:48] 2 lots, 1 house. We need housing. Um, he's gonna pay

[37:55] $500 per lot.

[37:59] With that

[38:03] Questions

[38:07] I support this and I'm going to ask counsel to approve this. Not a question, but

[38:13] just more of a comment, uh, as you said, uh, the city owns 705 West Franklin, BDC

[38:19] owns 709 West Franklin. Uh, we have come to an agreement to sell our lot to him for

[38:25] $500 with the, with the, um, covenant that he has to build a house, a 1200

[38:33] square foot house within 24 months, so. Again, that will be that's just gonna refresh

[38:39] my memory so I don't have to dig through my pile of paper down there. What was the,

[38:42] the selling price on that that he had, what was the bid price? You remember Mike?

[38:49] It was 5. OK, that's what I was thinking. Yeah, that didn't change. OK, great. Yeah,

[38:54] it's 500. Thank you. Thank you very much, so.

[38:58] Is that a motion? I make a motion that we approve. Say all that loud. I, I'll second

[39:03] that. I'll second that. All right, Michael Wolf, Tracy Wett, Ron Edelson. Tony Skaggs

[39:10] 40.

[39:12] Thank you.

[39:22] Agree to sell that or is there going to be a problem? No, we. We don't, Yeah, uh,

[39:28] Blackford Development Corporation has already come to agreement to sell that and

[39:32] so that process isn't working. It's kind of we're just doing it together just to

[39:37] Just for timing sake.

[39:43] So part of that.

[39:46] The meters that you approved, um, and I'm not gonna go into this in depth, but,

[39:54] um, Amy just put some notes. So part of when this thing. When the new

[40:02] software was that we purchased that will detect leaks, water leaks, if it's a dripping,

[40:09] whatever it might be, she can detect it instantly, um. We've gotten, we've actually

[40:16] around 20 customers have been notified of leaks, um, in the first of the month. So

[40:23] it's already starting to make a, make a, a dent. So I guess I would encourage each

[40:31] one of you to, when you can, stop up with the see Amy she can show you. It's kind

[40:36] of neat. Um.

[40:39] And there again it's got people's addresses and account numbers not gonna go through

[40:43] it, but it just shows you.

[40:47] You want me to take that? No, no, no. Just the extent of, you know, it shows by error

[40:51] by error if somebody has a leak, you know, when it is or whatever it might be. So

[40:58] it gives details of what it might be. So if someone calls in and say, hey, my bill

[41:02] seems a little higher, she can actually look to see what's going on. So, um, great

[41:08] tool. Can I give a thirty-second dissertation on that? A couple of weeks ago, Amy

[41:13] called me and said, you've got a small leak, minuscule leak, and I mean minuscule,

[41:19] as if I did the numbers right, like 50 gallon a day leak, it's a seep. And the guys

[41:26] came down and it, you, you think of a running toilet is kicking on, kicking off.

[41:33] This was so minute, minute. That it, it was in a 50, well, my, my house was built

[41:40] in 65, so the, the, the, the ah unit was put in in 65, very, very small, very, very

[41:47] small, very, very accurate. I was stunned how accurate it was.

[41:53] So it's gonna save customers a lot of money and it's gonna save our residents headaches.

[41:58] Um, we're 2 months behind on utility bills, so having to wait a month and a half

[42:03] months, you obviously get a utility bill and you look at it and say it's a little

[42:05] bit higher than next month you get you think, oh my goodness, so this is gonna help

[42:10] solve it, so. Um, great to have it.

[42:16] Couple of final things. We, um, actually got a housing preservation grant for $40,000.

[42:24] So we will be in Hartford City. I just, we just got a word of this. So what'll happen

[42:30] is, it's there, it's $40,000 so it's gonna be, obviously, it's gonna be a small amount

[42:35] of, of customers, but, uh, of residents. That will be there to repair or

[42:43] replace foundations, roof, um, house wiring. Heating systems. Um,

[42:52] and part of the water process. So, it's kind of like the OR, but this is more of

[42:56] a federal thing that we got through USDA, um, and we just got a word this last week.

[43:02] So, More details to come. We'll have something out there, so we'll be able to help

[43:08] out a couple um of residents with roofing, wiring, whatever it might be. So, um,

[43:16] A 40,000 to help other, help other residents, so. Excited to have that.

[43:25] This is it, and I'll be done. Um, we got a letter. Um, and we don't want you a lot

[43:31] of, it's nice to get thank you letters, you know, it really, somebody takes the time

[43:35] to do this, means a lot. So part of this is, and I'll just read it. Thank you, sewer

[43:41] crew, crew, if I can read it. Attention, Travis. Um, I wanted to thank Travis and

[43:46] his crew for his kind help. They were so helpful, went, went above and beyond to

[43:53] help with our sewer. Thank you. You guys are the best, um. Somebody on South Cherry.

[43:59] I didn't get permission to say the names I won't. But anyways, some kudos and um

[44:07] We all do good work, but it's nice to get a pat on the back from, from our customers.

[44:12] So, um, good job.

[44:18] OK.

[44:22] So you wanna go first? Well, she's first, and then is she on the agenda first? She

[44:28] is. Community development. I was gonna come back to you then. He's going out of order.

[44:35] Well, he's just mixing it up a little bit, making it exciting, right? He's making

[44:39] me OK, so mayor kind of referred to some grant money we already received for some

[44:45] housing upgrades, and this is another opportunity that we are applying for. Y'all

[44:52] approved this last month, but um. I'm gonna invite you to take this survey are the

[45:00] OOR or owner-occupied rehab grant, um, we're working on now. We've got it, the partnership

[45:07] and I believe we talked about this last month through the county Hartford City Mark,

[45:13] um, economic development.

[45:17] They have all pooled their money to apply for this up to, well, it would, would be

[45:21] a $500,000 investment in the community if we're awarded. So part of the award or

[45:27] the application process is that we need community input. So these survey, that's

[45:31] what the survey is for. So we ask you all to fill out a very quick and people will

[45:35] find this online. It's a very, very quick survey here with 6 questions that a 7th

[45:41] of you choose to um identify some information about what your house might need. They're

[45:46] all uh anonymous, so there's no information collected about who's answering what,

[45:51] but this just, this helps us with our application so that we can be more competitive

[45:56] in the process. And I think we went into this in-depth last month. So thoughts, ideas,

[46:01] questions. And this is the part that you guys approved last month to be a part of,

[46:09] so, um. It's gonna, it's gonna help out a handful of people again, so that need help,

[46:17] um, that are. Um Income-based, um, you know, there's restrictions there, so, um.

[46:25] It's not a good thing to help out our community that people need help.

[46:30] OK. Thank you. Thank you, Sherry.

[46:37] OK, you want me to, OK. Um, I gave you guys at the very beginning of the meeting,

[46:42] uh, an INM, uh, right of way project they wanna do sometime the week of the 16th,

[46:49] I think, 16th to the 20th, and it came very late today, so I just wanted to get approval

[46:54] for that if it's possible. Make motion we approve. One second. Thank you.

[47:02] Michael Wolf, Tracy Witt, Ron Duddelson, Tony Skaggs, well, thank you. I will let

[47:09] them know.

[47:15] OK.

[47:19] One This is more of a question for this um owner-occupied rehabilitation survey.

[47:26] Is it just limited to the items on #3? Uh, this one will be limited to HVAC and roofing

[47:33] and Um, exterior endgame ramps. So for this round. OK. Cause I'd like to get, uh,

[47:41] I don't know if there's anything out there. I mean, just to help with kind of the

[47:46] aesthetics of the house and the look of the house. Some people need new siding, some

[47:50] people just need paint that can't do it. Is there anything available kind of on that

[47:55] end? Not that I'm aware of. A lot of times if those are available, that might be

[48:00] like a local match or something that uh the city would come up with. Suggesting that

[48:06] we necessarily do at this point, but sometimes, uh, communities will, will do that.

[48:12] Or even this one is a overactive grant, so it's got very specific parameters and

[48:18] criteria and no windows on this one. No windows on this one.

[48:27] It'd be a good project for you to do in District one. Definitely, you know, there's

[48:32] a house in District 1 that needs District 2. Do you have, do you have a big time.

[48:38] I'm cutting him off.

[48:43] At large.

[48:46] Yeah, I do have a couple of items, Mayor. Thank you. Um, Without going into a lot

[48:52] of detail, the ready grant money has been approved. We are going to be doing work

[48:57] on the Newberry. Um, continuing work on the Newberry, and with that, I need approval

[49:04] from common counsel for, I'll call for a fiduciary Committee, would that be a correct

[49:10] term for that, the outlay of the money, um, and all we need is just a simple up-down

[49:17] vote on this, and that committee as it stands would be Mayor Eckstein, Commissioner

[49:22] Borgenheimer, um, myself, um. Commissioner or uh yeah, Councilman

[49:30] Aspe, those would be the voting members and then an advisory member would be Mr.

[49:35] Warren Brown from Economic Development. That would be the committee that the bot

[49:40] would go through and we would be dispersing the funds or approving the dispersing

[49:45] of funds. So with that, um, I'll, I'll accept any questions. If there's no questions,

[49:51] I would ask for a motion to approve that committee. I'll go ahead and make a motion

[49:55] to approve that committee. Thank you. 2nd. Thank you. All right, Michael Wolf, Tracy

[50:02] Witt, Ron Edelson, Tony Skaggs, and if the minutes would please reflect that, Dana,

[50:09] reflect that committee. So it's Dan Eckstein, Ron Edelson, Dan Morgenheimer, Bill

[50:14] Asby, Warren Brown as advisor. Yes, nobody else, OK, OK, um.

[50:22] Secondly, this is minor. I kind of fell into it. I had a constituent ask me about

[50:27] some street lighting, and Jeff had already taken care of it, but in my Roundabout,

[50:32] I found a couple of lights that were out, and I would advise counsel to drive through

[50:38] at night, and I would advise our constituents that if you see a light that's out,

[50:43] every pole has got an INM number, please write that INM number down, and you can

[50:49] either call AEP or INM or you can contact one of us and we will make that call or

[50:54] contact the mayor's office. That way, we can get those lighting things fixed. Um

[51:03] A shameless plug for the fire department. October 17th is the fish fry at the fire

[51:10] department. Be there, be square. It's a great time and funding helps out. And what

[51:16] is it $13 adults, Ronnie, I think what it is. Tickets are available at the, at the

[51:21] firehouse. What was the date again? Um, the 17th, 17th. The what? 4 to

[51:29] 7. Thank you. Uh, can I ask a question about the light poles? Where is that plan?

[51:36] Are you, it's about eye level on all the poles. It's a big yellow. It says I've got

[51:41] one in my car I wrote down, but remember, Jerry, it says INM da da da da, yeah, is

[51:49] it BLL or I forget. It's got some, yeah, it's, it's eye level. You can see them.

[51:55] Just write them down and get with one of us and we'll call them in as a group because

[52:00] we pay for those. Thank you. Jeff, was it you that we talked about the um

[52:08] Franklin and Jefferson? That there's a light out or was that dust and OK, so yeah,

[52:16] so I called um. Electric company, they're gonna come look at it because it's, it's

[52:21] something in ground so I was gonna tell you about that. I've got every other one

[52:27] fixed except yeah anyway it's underground somewhere. So it's not like October. We've

[52:34] got, uh, we've got citywide cleanup and then we've got fish fry, trick or treat,

[52:40] and we got Halloween and we got the bike thing on the bike thing on the 18th and

[52:45] the Jeep, Jeep, the Jeep, the Jeep thing, yes. Oh yeah, I forgot about that. That's

[52:49] the day before the bike so um. Yes. Busy month, so.

[52:57] OK. Is all that gonna be on the Harperidia? Yes, I think some of it's already on

[53:04] there, right? Yeah, I'll have to double check. We have any public.

[53:11] OK, now we turn the motion. OK, adjourned.

[53:19] It's amazing.

[53:23] That's the scat that is that should.

[53:29] I don't say

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