[0:00] This is August 17, 1926. It is now 1 o'clock 5 p.m., and this is a meeting of the Eber Valley Historic Railroad Authority. I want to welcome the board members that are here, Jonathan Hunt is online. We have come to Jason, Richard Dielsen, and the co-chair of the mayor of Craig Signance here, my sub-head, Franco, and Colin Hunter. We also have our staff here, and we welcome you.

[0:24] All right, so we're ready to start. Is there anybody else on the line?

[0:34] I don't think so.

[0:35] Okay, so first item would be the minutes of the last meeting at July 20th, 2026.

[0:39] Is there any comments?

[0:41] Issues, questions or motions on the minutes?

[0:45] No, somewhat.

[0:46] Thank you.

[0:46] Pause is every second.

[0:48] Okay.

[0:49] Thank you very much.

[0:51] Okay, on the table.

[0:52] Let's go ahead and start.

[0:54] Yes.

[0:55] Yes.

[1:00] Okay, thank you.

[1:01] That's it.

[1:02] Oh, Jonathan.

[1:03] Yes.

[1:04] Thank you. That's a 7-0.

[1:07] The school and the financial statements, those warrants and the 7-month budget summary forecast.

[1:13] Okay. So you were all sent all those warrants from January through.

[1:23] So those are, those are there, I don't know if you need or want to motion them, but I just

[1:28] wanted to show you today a couple of financial documents.

[1:33] So this one is the first half of the year January through June.

[1:38] This is this year, this is last year, so just, you could both look at our first half of our

[1:43] of your financials and then we'll look at the ones for July.

[1:50] But do you make revenue for the town for the Dayton R&D?

[1:55] Can you see okay?

[1:57] One more.

[1:59] One more.

[2:00] One more.

[2:03] Thank you.

[2:07] So you can see the revenue.

[2:09] Total revenue was $3.2 billion this year.

[2:12] at the airport 1.9. That difference is all right here. It's an all-northodox press because

[2:21] more folks rest solar so much faster this year than last year, just an explosion. So that's

[2:33] revenue here today through the end of June and then if you look at expenses

[2:44] they're about to say and they're actually a little bit less you can see that

[2:49] payroll is $100,000 more than last year and that's because of new employees

[2:55] that we've added primarily part of their time on yet and so if you then go down

[3:04] to look at that net income for this year of this point is $1.4 million a profit

[3:12] in recent outbreak even last year. But again, that's all, or the difference is all

[3:18] these so-called express faster. The rest of the numbers are, this year is a little bit

[3:24] above in revenue and the expense, but it's on the whole of these degrees.

[3:31] I mean, we're going to be going back to the county because we're going to be two payments

[3:38] right?

[3:41] For a year.

[3:43] Yes.

[3:44] So we made one into one.

[3:46] Okay.

[3:46] That's what I thought.

[3:47] I mean, we made one into one.

[3:48] And then we had one in January or in January.

[3:52] And then we ended the year.

[3:53] Okay.

[3:53] So, yeah.

[3:54] They can January.

[3:55] Okay.

[3:57] We're just going to show one here.

[3:59] It doesn't show it on here.

[4:00] but I'll show it to you, because I was alive this year.

[4:06] Yeah, that's what I was looking at too.

[4:08] I'm like, okay, because you wouldn't show it on the ballot sheet.

[4:11] We'll show it on the ballot sheet.

[4:13] Okay.

[4:14] Thank you, Mar.

[4:15] So let me, I'm

[4:38] going to pick it up.

[4:40] Okay,

[4:50] so here are the Lawrence Board July.

[4:56] If you have any questions or if I want to point things out,

[5:03] Yes, you did like $5 a month one, and I use it almost every day for something.

[5:12] You might consider, I think, the check you can do if you're as good as a farmer.

[5:17] You know, I've had those baby wipes on the back of a farm today, right away for a farm.

[5:23] So

[5:27] this being filled, that's bells, that's the second to the last thing for bells, we've got one more smaller one.

[5:36] This being painted is a dishwasher, a special dishwasher we bought that we're going to put inside the paint,

[5:44] and then we'll cut as we're finishing that off.

[5:48] I'm just gonna have to teach my students that I need to meet.

[5:51] As in either, I was looking to see if there is.

[5:55] Look at all this, I've seen it.

[5:57] I've seen it be 5000, you know?

[5:59] It's a specialty line.

[6:00] They work in like a minute.

[6:01] They take some minute and a half to do a little distance.

[6:06] That's how I guess I'm just broken there.

[6:10] What is it?

[6:12] I

[6:20] don't see.

[6:22] I don't see.

[6:23] I don't see.

[6:24] Okay.

[6:26] I'm just gonna see.

[6:28] I'm gonna see.

[6:53] I'm guessing it's taken very into July, and I'll show it next time,

[7:07] and then we'll move

[7:09] Yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't have that boss edge count stuff in front of me, but, well, I guess to tell you what the colleague said is, how much do we have on the signs made to count right now that we need to pay back, and that's the plan for paying for that.

[7:30] But I saw it down below on the first document.

[7:32] But I didn't know for the $20,000, something

[7:35] was the entire amount of people.

[7:38] I shouldn't have heard about it.

[7:40] I should say, I'm going to look at that.

[7:46] You know, we thought it was a short term type of use.

[7:50] But if you're going to keep it.

[7:51] Oh, you're trying to talk design and say, line,

[7:53] line, line, line, and we paid it back.

[7:55] I agree.

[7:56] It's paid off.

[7:58] Yeah, I can't help it now.

[7:59] So we can get a bit of money to end in terms, right?

[8:02] Right.

[8:02] And we can get a bit of money to end in terms, right?

[8:04] I think our goal is to use it paid off, use it paid off, not to continue it, yeah, okay.

[8:12] Jonathan, I'm just opening the balance sheet and now I'll try and make it to where you want to get.

[8:54] So here

[8:59] are all of our guests.

[9:00] It doesn't look like this house is

[9:15] going to sit in the e-mail and it shows you that he was the end of June that he won't have to sit in the 2,000 to the 2,000?

[9:23] No, 1.1 and 6.69, the combination of those two, this is design spank along with the storage building.

[9:32] The line of credit isn't on here because we did it back, it was right there.

[9:39] But this is debt service that's being paid by annually to the county.

[9:44] Yeah, didn't you go over this last week?

[9:46] We did, but I, someone asked me a question about it and I just want that on the record that

[9:52] if a debt service to the county that is being paid by the railroad and not the members and

[10:00] in the taxpayers of Losage County.

[10:02] This is strictly being paid by the railroad.

[10:05] And why, and who put something on the record,

[10:07] the almost 14 years I've worked here,

[10:10] the railroad has never received one penny of TRT

[10:14] from Losage County, right?

[10:16] Not enough.

[10:17] So, like any other business, we have debt service

[10:20] and we are paying our debt, like this.

[10:26] OK, so thanks.

[10:28] So now, Melissa is texting the same guy.

[10:30] It was wrong, it was July 20th, forwarding it now.

[10:32] We paid $146,164,60, and she said for some reason,

[10:40] she showed me a gym, she's not sure why it's in the wrong way.

[10:44] So we reconciled with them.

[10:46] We paid a payment of $146,000, and then we

[10:48] have another payment like that at the end of the

[10:51] December and the end of the year.

[10:54] So yeah, we talked about that last month that we were

[10:56] or consolidating the loans and being on 18 large payments

[11:02] because of the way our funds come in.

[11:04] And so I just, I have tried to explain that to somebody.

[11:07] I'm making sure that if they check our records,

[11:10] they know that we're at where it is, this.

[11:14] Okay, any questions about this?

[11:19] We can look a little bit clear.

[11:23] I remember 14 years ago or about our debt.

[11:27] So if you could still look like this, Gary.

[11:30] Okay, so that's all of the financial information that I have, I don't know, I mean like I suppose you can do a motion to approve the year-to-date future of the show.

[11:45] So, I mean, I guess there's anything else to do with that motion.

[11:50] I like that motion that they have through the

[11:53] warrants and payments and all of our financials

[11:57] from January, 2026 through June of 2026.

[12:04] Thank you.

[12:05] First, second.

[12:07] Thank you.

[12:12] Any further discussion?

[12:15] Any questions, Jonathan?

[12:17] Okay.

[12:18] We'll let you go.

[12:19] Let's look at that.

[12:22] Yes.

[12:23] Yes.

[12:24] Yes.

[12:26] Yes.

[12:27] Yes.

[12:27] Johnny.

[12:27] Thank you.

[12:28] All right.

[12:29] That last is 0.

[12:30] Mark, would you please give us the status reports on the extra pen first?

[12:34] Yes.

[12:37] So,

[12:39] let me share with you something that's a very, very good way.

[14:52] So that's what we want to do,

[14:58] by the way, then they're really cool.

[15:17] So why are we creating this master plan? In my mind, these are stakeholders. We're preparing this plan because we need to sell the Hebrew Valley Railroad to the Utah State legislature.

[15:30] culture. They're very, very important to us, to UDOT and Utah State Parks, who we get

[15:37] the right away from, to Wasatch County, Heber City, and Midway, who are our biggest supporters,

[15:43] who are very involved, all due, and also to federal and private rent and funding sources,

[15:53] and then, of course, the public.

[15:57] And so, that's the show I have on my slide.

[16:02] So, here's what I'm thinking that we need to do

[16:08] before November.

[16:10] Here's what's massive.

[16:12] We need to create about a two-minute video

[16:15] which is a real high-quality video that says

[16:19] what I just showed you in those other slides.

[16:22] It's very succinctly, very powerfully, very visually.

[16:25] It says, here's the Eber Valley Railroad, and where we go.

[16:30] And that we'll also have some slides.

[16:33] We'll also have a presentation that we could give,

[16:36] and talk in some more detail, which has some numbers in it.

[16:41] And then maybe a printed piece, or one printed,

[16:46] one page, 30 section per house.

[16:49] And then also a planned open house or open houses and train rides where we would give

[16:57] people a chance to come and other stakeholders to come.

[17:03] So that's what we want to do, that's what I'm hoping to do, and I have a plan for how

[17:16] I don't, I don't, I'm not certain it's the right plan or the best plan, but we have a plan for how to accomplish that.

[17:27] We'll have to spend some money, especially the video.

[18:11] So, so this is a this is a drawing lane with go get a few months ago and and isn't

[18:18] what our proposed plans, but I want to show to you because I've had a few conversations

[18:25] with Lane. And Lane would like to, he would like to be a contractor. He would like to have

[18:33] us pay him, hire him, to help create this master plan, especially drawings and kind of maps

[18:44] and all that kind of stuff, and so he's going to give us a bid for what it might cost for him to be involved in this process.

[18:55] I also think that it will be a separate contractor probably who would use to create and be building their lots of good options to vote who could do that.

[19:06] So, I don't really want to go over these slides very much, unless you want to, let me just

[19:14] move that up to the next one.

[19:20] So you can see on this one that, and I think Lane showed this to Heath in some earlier

[19:27] version.

[19:28] Heath was very concerned about this, and so Lane said that he has done some more work, I have

[19:34] early study this week, sent this to me this morning. But our plan for this in the railroads

[19:44] is trying to figure out where in the turntable, where's the best place for the turntable,

[19:50] and how might we work with our partners with Los Edge County and Heamer City on the 600 west

[20:00] line, and to have a depot that you can park here, walk through the depot and get on.

[20:11] So it's not necessarily this drawing, don't get hung up on, this is the line.

[20:17] But that's what we wish.

[20:21] That's what we're going to work on.

[20:23] And with that being said, the speaker on board event is County on board with that.

[20:30] I'm using this table.

[20:32] So just for me it makes a lot of sense if we want to support the railroad.

[20:36] So let me say this.

[20:37] I think he rescindes council.

[20:40] And I think I will let the mayor speak for it.

[20:43] So I think he rescindes council and Washington County council are both for it.

[20:49] I mean, the challenge is a lot that's not in parts of the park, and that's going to be

[20:54] the big explainer in the learning channel that we're going to have to navigate through.

[20:58] But I think we're getting there.

[21:00] Yeah.

[21:01] I think it's doable.

[21:02] I think that's doable.

[21:04] There's a whole part from what you've got to do with the knowledge.

[21:08] And how these parks and rack controls all of this length of the rust street,

[21:14] across or something like that, but let's say we're never going to be able to do it, right, or you know, the state, let's get some more state agency power.

[21:24] I was thinking the state and the state and the state and the society will take this presentation, but they will support it.

[21:29] What was the scary thing about that is that it is so restrictive on what you can't say other than the historical part that we might true.

[21:39] We might want to wait, I don't know anything Tom, but we've got to be just a teach careful of historical society because sometimes they have a big read, right?

[21:52] I think that we're going to be great support for the state of America.

[21:56] We're not going to support the state of America.

[22:01] I think there's three of us.

[22:03] The best support is that we are in the pre-socratic launch.

[22:06] There's not sure about the other two.

[22:08] One spoke very clearly.

[22:10] Last time we discussed this two months ago,

[22:13] that we should not just say we'll leave the game.

[22:16] And then when I brought this up before the bridge, you were like,

[22:20] how would we, today I talked to them about how average which would get to.

[22:25] My average said nothing on there, and then you get their stuff off, right?

[22:30] And so that there was probably other plans that were coming.

[22:33] And what are the utilities in this six hundred west?

[22:36] And they said it's really just a focal line down this building,

[22:40] the old century line, and that there are electrical and electrical sites.

[23:02] It doesn't seem like there's as much parking as this is we go into the east side of the

[23:16] I think for me one of the big strategic questions or one of the heaviest lifting questions is would

[23:25] we, and could, if Wasatch County and Heber City and Railroad or wherever all these are,

[23:32] enter into create some kind of MOU or a special service district or something

[23:41] where that orange thing is jointly controlled by this entity. The railroad

[23:48] doesn't necessarily own that building or control that space.

[23:52] Is that

[23:57] before the wise, you don't have to worry too much, you don't want to take the land

[24:01] presently?

[24:02] No, well, I wonder where the money is going to come from, because if we, should it be

[24:10] cross-correct?

[24:13] Then the police will land back to the rebel for a year and a half, and it will be a lot

[24:19] different ways.

[24:23] It's going to be very creative because in order for them to fund a glass of art, it's going to require re-locating grass and dirt to different fields, which is going to be a chunk of change, plus the fences and not this in my opinion, it's how we do it all the time.

[24:58] We did that, we did that, I don't think it included any of this, so it didn't include any of this, because we've had to unjustify the new people as part of it.

[25:10] Well, the challenge is when it's a county parts market impact fee, it's just those in the

[25:17] unappropriated county that maybe impact fee that's good.

[25:20] So if we do that, we need to create some kind of maybe what Mark's talking about, an

[25:26] entity that, a portion of midways, in fact, becomes to it, a part of paper cities impact

[25:35] to be in a part of what such can be impacted.

[25:38] Otherwise, those who live in the unincorporated county

[25:41] are bearing the largest cost in the impact that we will all use.

[25:48] And so I, you know, can we create a county

[25:52] recreation department that includes midway and fever?

[25:57] And it can take all of this because that's the biggest

[25:59] sell is that it's just unincorporated what such

[26:09] It's going to be a, it's going to take somebody who's in a financial salary, who's in down in the table with us and help us to navigate through that, I think.

[26:18] I'm not saying it's not doable, I just need to write people at the table.

[26:37] I just wanted to show you all this, I forgot to show you the last slide.

[26:54] That's why I wanted to look at this because, so in the past five years, the Redwells has

[27:01] invested about $5 million in the tracts, in the ballast, in the ties, in the tracts.

[27:09] We will spend about a million dollars, and this is funded to obtain more of that, we're

[27:18] going to talk about that starting this week.

[27:22] So here are some estimates of things to redo the depot tracks so that we can run two

[27:30] trains effectively.

[27:31] It's around $2 million.

[27:32] $2 million. To one, the term table in the ego area is around $2 million. If the litigation

[27:41] gets resolved in a curvil parkway project, when it gets resolved, yes. And when that

[27:47] proceeds, the way it's sitting on the books right now, we're responsible for putting or paying

[27:55] for the Vivian Park platform and we're also responsible for about $2 million of track replacement

[28:04] that was a part of the trailer project.

[28:10] We want to put a turntable into the park someday and that's about $2 million and then the

[28:16] whistle stop, I don't know how much value it is, but that's a capital expense.

[28:21] And then here, $3 million to extend our shop.

[28:28] I mean, this is assuming we don't get it in the depot,

[28:31] that we expand the depot we have and make commentary

[28:35] with $500 roughly in there.

[28:39] So I just wanted you all to see that,

[28:42] because there's a lot of capital expense here.

[28:45] And then if you took into account,

[28:47] I don't know. Take that $5 million off and we build a new $25,000 square foot depot.

[28:54] It's also a tourist office and we do know what else is in it.

[28:58] And all of that, my end, that's a $20,000 project probably.

[29:06] You're the commissary of ours.

[29:09] Really?

[29:10] We don't really know what that is.

[29:11] Electrical mining.

[29:12] So I don't know how much it'd be.

[29:13] My point is, that's a pretty big left-ask to go to the legislature and say, hey, I know you gave us two million, three years ago. How about 25?

[29:26] So on that teaching commissary thing, is that something that we built, being up to share

[29:35] about other entities like the food truck, the letters, the red dot space room?

[29:40] I mean, one option is if there's a new t-code, the open events, so there's somewhere this could become a commissary.

[29:51] this building.

[29:55] Can we go back to the plane? Yeah. Because I was 40.

[30:07] I just know that what we were like powers doing on that north-west corner that they have with increasing the size of a substation that's in there, next to where the walkway could be. I'm just not sure that's really appetizing for a tourism athlete.

[30:30] So to blame, consider a key handed conversion, we talked about some kind of something for the lower tracks over here.

[30:39] Yeah.

[30:39] But is that on the table now because I didn't see it in that way?

[30:42] Well, again, that's not really the strong.

[30:45] That's a earlier one.

[30:46] That's a earlier one.

[30:48] And still

[30:57] something to be considered because we want people to walk to park once and be able to have access across this whole area.

[31:05] Right.

[31:05] I think to the right center, do you know the way it sounds

[31:08] the parking to the administration building?

[31:11] Do you want that to be all wrong people,

[31:12] so I'm just trying to figure out how to go do that?

[31:21] I would hope that by next month at this time,

[31:26] we'll have a concept run that has the turntable

[31:30] where we think the turntable needs to be,

[31:33] and then all the other adjustments.

[31:35] Mark, what is that piece in that box right there?

[31:38] Is that the old one of the turntable and the building there?

[31:42] That's just that.

[31:46] Oh, okay.

[31:48] Expanded.

[31:48] Okay.

[31:49] That's the thing.

[31:50] Trying to explain what that is.

[31:53] Or address.

[31:54] Okay.

[31:54] He said he's concerned.

[31:56] I haven't really looked at it, to be honest.

[31:59] But these are his concerns about how the traffic will move and how pedestrians would get around this.

[32:05] I think maybe he's drawing these lines, like those are crosswalks with a little bit of detail.

[32:12] I think they're on the center straight end.

[32:13] I think they're on top of us and they're nice.

[32:17] They are nice.

[32:18] They're really nice.

[32:20] So I think that's, that was,

[32:22] I don't think there's some kind of information on that Southland.

[32:26] So if I, no, up,

[32:28] just to the cross part of the line,

[32:30] the bottom of the line,

[32:31] I would like you to go straight up to six out of your car and show you up through it and a lot of things will be straight down from the out of our car.

[32:39] And where that green parking area is right now.

[32:44] A little bit.

[32:45] Hi there.

[32:46] Yeah, there's the, yeah, I can see that.

[32:48] It's just so much farther south than I did.

[32:50] But I didn't know if it would be.

[32:52] What you're never going to max.

[32:55] I think you're going to get the best way is going to be to figure out what the county is up to.

[33:01] I'm going to come through that back fence and help me do some kind that wasn't that you go into.

[33:09] And I'm going to do it here.

[33:11] Yeah.

[33:12] Or even further south.

[33:14] Even on the 300.

[33:15] Yeah.

[33:16] Somewhere on the 300 is where it has to go by the substation.

[33:20] Because if you look back, look at the only lines.

[33:24] They're very, I don't know, to me it's not.

[33:26] I think the, maybe we should make a procession for it to talk about.

[33:34] I don't really have any further update on that.

[33:39] If you feel, just my last comment,

[33:42] how do you go on the procession, right?

[33:45] It says, if necessary.

[33:47] If you please tell the University Council what you can,

[33:51] what you can about 600 West,

[33:53] Yes, then the council will be very happy about that.

[33:57] It will be pretty much more on the date and I hope to this organization.

[34:02] But you may not be able to tell me anything.

[34:05] Well, I think it's like we did something to figure it out with the park.

[34:10] I mean, I think he was on board to be supportive of that road.

[34:15] But I think if we go a keeper and say we're going to move this road, then it's going to put up.

[34:19] Yeah, these have dire suspicions.

[34:21] I think of dire people that mark the right and we don't want to do that, we don't want to keep that conversation.

[34:27] The thing that the city council seem to be happiest with is that this bad intersection and bad intersection are the same.

[34:37] Right?

[34:38] As long as you have good point of view.

[34:40] Yes.

[34:41] There you go.

[34:42] But of course, the true traffic has to, the buses still have to come through on a daily basis

[34:48] during the school year and they can't really let them walk themselves.

[34:52] If there's somebody that he's considered those things, because we know we'll get

[34:55] pushed back from the school district on that.

[34:57] So that's the big concerns that I see so far.

[35:01] So let me ask you a question about Eversity, because it was a while ago,

[35:06] it was a couple of years ago, but Eversity,

[35:09] when they were considering the CRA,

[35:12] these other things.

[35:14] This was designated as kind of

[35:17] a recreation district or a tourism district.

[35:20] It's in general, and the kind

[35:21] we officially own it.

[35:24] Right, and so is that

[35:25] as we try to work with the county

[35:28] and the parks to figure this out

[35:31] is that still a priority

[35:33] if you were to see?

[35:36] Is that one of the

[35:38] That's pretty serious too.

[35:40] Yes.

[35:41] Sort of?

[35:41] Yes.

[35:42] No, I'll be sure to check on that.

[35:44] See what I need to do to push that low.

[35:47] Okay.

[35:48] Thank you.

[35:49] Really?

[35:54] Perfect.

[35:54] Did you want to go into procession?

[35:56] To discuss further everybody or should we just wait so much longer?

[35:59] I have more information to do now.

[36:02] Not really actual.

[36:03] Yeah.

[36:04] I don't think anything's changing now.

[36:06] Okay.

[36:06] Motion to adjourn.

[36:07] And some of the things that we did, all of the day, heard me.

[36:12] All right.

[36:13] We started finding this life in just three minutes early.

[36:16] We did well.

[36:17] Yeah, we did.

[36:18] We did well.

[36:19] We did well.

[36:19] And we also took the air of all these all the local problems.

[36:23] So it's really great.

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