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All right. Well, welcome everyone. We
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we'll start the uh call to order the
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town council meeting for Thursday,
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September 3rd, 2026. We could all stand
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for the pledge of allegiance.
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pledge to the flag of the United States
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of America and to the republic for which
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it stands. One nation under God,
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indivisible, with liberty and justice
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for all.
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» All right. So, next we have any
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additions or changes to the agenda?
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>> Don't have any.
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>> Anybody from the town council?
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>> All right. So, that'll move us into our
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first public comment. This section of
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the agenda is reserved for persons in
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attendance who wish to briefly address
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the town council. Council requests that
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a person's comments be limited to a
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single period lasting three minutes or
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less. While the council respects the
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right of the public to provide comment,
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this time is not intended for open
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discussion or council response.
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Residents who wish to request a dialogue
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should make arrangements to do so
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through the town manager's office or the
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council chair. Persons wishing to
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comment should type comment and your
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name in the chat box and you will be
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recognized. So, first of all, is there
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any public comment here tonight? Yes,
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ma'am. You step forward, just state your
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name and your address. You can stand
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right right at the end of the table.
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Yeah, that's good.
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>> Okay.
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>> Thank you.
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>> Sandy Waldo. My address is 33 Mil
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Landing Road.
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and I am I wanted to introduce myself
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and I also would like to read our our
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mission statement which is I'm on the
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commission on aging and so that that's
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why I'm here tonight. Uh the commission
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on aging promotes a and supports a
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livable caring community for hein's
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aging population focusing on their
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well-being and supports the senior
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center through active engagement.
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And that last phrase is why I'm here for
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support her.
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>> Thank you.
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>> Any other public comment?
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Any public comment online?
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Okay,
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that brings us to good to know. Special
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recognition.
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>> We don't have anything.
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>> Okay. And appointments and resignations.
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>> Nothing. Right. So, that brings us to
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the town manager report. Donna.
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>> All right. So, I think the first thing I
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would like to reach for is that we have
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an audit. The audit was issued today.
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This is a 20 324 fiscal year audit. Um I
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it has been forwarded to you all and the
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board of finance and we will have hard
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copies before too long that we'll share
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with you.
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So it's been a long time coming and it's
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good to have it done.
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Um as you know we've had the final
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interviews for the town manager. They
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went quite well. our decisions and an
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announcement will be made soon.
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Um, we're continuing to prepare the
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office for the new town manager cleaning
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and painting. Our assistant revenue
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collector
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started
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well next week and the assistant
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assessor started this week. So, it's
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good to have those people in place. We
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are continuing recruiting for finance
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director
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and public works truck driver and we are
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reviewing resumeumés now for the parks
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and recck program supervisor and the
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accounting specialist. Those interviews
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will take place within the next week or
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two.
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Um we received the um bique funding
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today for the bond anticipation note for
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Gilead Hill School.
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So that has
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finally been finalized. Um we are we
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issued the RFP for attorney services and
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that will close within the next couple
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of weeks. We're working on RFPs for on
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call architects, firet truck lease, and
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audit firms.
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We're still working on the FOI requests
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for the library um Mr. Howard and the
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dog case with from Miss Connelly.
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The CIP budget process will kick off
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next week. It's already time. Um we'll
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be holding a staff meeting, in-person
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staff meeting next week to kick off the
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CIP budget.
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Um the police department had an
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accreditation b visit from post a couple
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of weeks ago and we did pass that.
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Hebrin is in compliance with the
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reertification requirements.
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>> Right.
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>> Hebrin fair is next week
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>> the 10th through the 13th. Um we're
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going to enter into a temporary
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agreement with the town of Chester for
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police coverage. They our police
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department and the and the state police
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need some supplemental coverage. So it
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will just be a temporary agreement just
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for the fair.
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Um,
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our resident state trooper Justin
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Hagerty is back from his deployment.
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We've had a a series of fillings, but
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Justin is back. So,
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>> um, good to have him back. He had to
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have some training before he came back
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to us, but he is here and we'll get him
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in front of you before too long.
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>> Great.
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Um, and RAM, I think you may have
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received the notification, but RAM is
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holding a special meeting on September
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10th at 6 PM in the middle school
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library to discuss capital funding and
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bonding.
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Um, the pickle ball courts repairs
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started this week and should finish up
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next week.
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>> And then under correspondence, we just
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have a couple of things. one letter from
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the center for housing opportunities
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regarding um affordable housing
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and then the state police July activity
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report
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and that's it unless you have any
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questions. I just had one followup
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question on release accreditation.
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>> Is that an annual exercise? So it's like
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good for one year.
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>> The re the um this review they were just
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looking at training files. So they came
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in and looked at two of our Hebrin
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police officer
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personnel or training files to make sure
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that everything is done. So I do think
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it's probably on a rotational basis on
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what they're looking for for
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accreditation. We have that lease up.
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Officer Rhodess who is our accreditation
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officer works very closely with Mark
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Rubber to make sure that we are up to
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speed on everything to maintain our
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accreditation and that's separate from
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anything pertaining to state trooper.
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This is this is from police. Yes.
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>> Thank you. questions.
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>> Any other questions from town council?
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>> Thank you, Don. As always, we appreciate
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all you do.
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>> Thanks so much.
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>> Um, okay. So, that brings us to old
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business. First thing on the agenda is
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department operational reviews. And we
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have senior services tonight. So, want
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to welcome Sharon Gerard Hoffman, a
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senior services director. She's going to
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provide a presentation of the
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department's operational review. and we
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have attached materials for the town
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council to review. So, thanks so much
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for coming tonight. We appreciate it.
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» So, again, there's myself, our program
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coordinator, Ruth Reinwald, and our
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social worker, Dennis Bar.
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Um, just to mention that we're separate
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from senior housing. A lot of people
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think that we're connected with senior
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housing. senior housing is through the
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housing authority and they have a
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management company merit properties um
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because often we'll get the question how
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many people live there so again we are separate um there is an arrangement
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that I just want to mention probably
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dated about 25 years ago whereby um
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public works takes care of plowing the
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uh lot at senior housing along with our
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lot. Um, and then their landscape
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contractor takes care of shoveling our
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walks. Um, so sometime sometime there's
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a bit of a disconnect there because it's
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their contractor. So sometime we come in the morning, the walks aren't
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shoveled. We know that Sean would be
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more than willing to help us, but he's
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got his own
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uh assignments of where he's shoveling.
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So sometime we're we're trying to shovel
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out. So um
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so that as I said that arrangement
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sometime works sometime doesn't uh and
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then uh parks of Rex takes care of all
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of our grass.
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Um so there is a state statute that uh
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every municipality has to have a
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municipal agent for the elderly. Uh and
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then that uh that state statute
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specifies that the person is supposed to
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be able to provide information,
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referrals,
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uh be able to um assess the needs of the
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community, etc. That's overseen by the
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state of Connecticut Department of
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Social Services. and also I am the
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liaison um to the commission on aging.
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Uh and um also too um there is a statute
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regarding uh those who are responsible
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for reporting any uh neglect, abuse,
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exploitation of seniors. And again,
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myself and our social worker are
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mandated reporters.
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Our mission um as part of a
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comprehensive community strategy to meet
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the diverse needs, interest, and
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abilities of older adults. U Senior
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Services strives to offer a responsive
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evolving broad range of services,
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activities, and supports along with
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providing information, assistance, and
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referral to link individuals with
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resources. Sandy shared with you their mission mission on aging.
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» Uh very appropriate that I'm here this
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month doing this presentation because
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September is National Senior Center
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Months. So it's when senior centers have
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an opportunity to try to explain what it is we do.
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Um, nationally, uh, 10 to 30% of a
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community's older adults attend their
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local senior center. Uh, currently we
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have 1,231 registered members, uh, with
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686 active members, so me members who
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are repetitively coming senior center,
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uh, which represents 26.37%.
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So again, we're on target for what the
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national trend.
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Um we're a designated multi-purpose
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community focal point senior center.
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That's a designation through the area
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agency on aging. And again, it
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represents that we have services
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colllocated within our facility. uh we
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uh I'll touch upon it in a bit but we
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have the activities piece, the social
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services piece and the transportation
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piece. So those services are all
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collocated where again we can coordinate
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services and be able to assess people
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from different perspectives.
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So again we have the three primary roles
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our uh our social our uh activity piece
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social services piece and then it our
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transportation is what's called on
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demand doortodoor
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uh so again people are calling making a
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request to uh be transported somewhere
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and then our services doortodoor
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some services are door through door,
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which means they kind of can go into
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someone's home and help them. Our
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service does not provide that. It's just
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doortodoor.
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If somebody needs help um beyond that,
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then they're responsible for
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uh securing somebody to help them. We
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also too have an arrangement with uh
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Iliad helping hands whereby if we have
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someone who needs help but they do not
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have someone to help them, Iliad helping
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hands will work with us to find somebody
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who will um volunteer to assist the
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individual. The other thing I just want
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to mention with transportation is we
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don't transport someone if they've uh
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had anesthesia because again that person
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on discharge needs to um
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have somebody with them and have
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somebody with them for a certain number
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of hours later because we do get a lot
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of people who may be going for
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colonoscopy and wants us to provide
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transportation. So it's not something
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that we could do. you could get them
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there but then they need to make other
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arrangements for securing somebody to
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get them home. Um so again research
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shows that older adult adults who
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participate in senior center programs uh
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can manage uh issues that they are
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dealing with aging delay the onset of
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chronic disease and experience
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measurable improvements in physical,
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social, spiritual, emotional and mental
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and economic well-being and quality of
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life.
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um population information. So Hein's
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current 60 plus population is 2,61
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which is 29.58%
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of the town's total population. And of
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that 2,601
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410 are 80 and up. Um so the older adult
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population here in Hebrin is expected to
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peak between [clears throat] 2030 and
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2035
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um with approximately 2,612 individuals
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age 60 and during that time period and
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between 469 and 559 people aged 80 plus.
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Um I will touch upon it in a minute but
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60 plus is the age set by the uh federal
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older Americans act. for older Americans
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act last year turned 60.
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So again, the size of the older adult
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population. Um,
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I began here in 2005, but kind of went
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back to
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2004, which were the figures that we had
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when I started here, that there was a
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total of 804
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60 plus individuals back in 2004.
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And now it is 2,6001.
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So there's been quite an increase in the
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senior population in the time that I've
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been here. Um and again with the uh 80
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plus population again 103 back in 204
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and uh in 2025 410
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and those are the individuals that often
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are needing you know more concentrated
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uh services.
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So while the population has increased as
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you can see the budgetarily there hasn't
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been an increase. I went back 15 years
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ago from 2010 to 2011 and what the size
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of the population was it was 16% of the
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total population versus now when it's
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29.58%.
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Um so we have more seniors and again the
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budget is relatively flat. It actually
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is $456
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less than it was 15 years ago. Um, and
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as far as uh grant revenue, there is
[17:42]
more grant revenue now than there was
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back in 2010 2011. Uh, so the net budget
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is less now than it was back 15 years
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ago.
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Um
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the
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bunch of the uh expenses that have uh
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taken a hit uh have been program
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development and meetings and
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conferences. Um
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that's
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helped to off those um those reductions
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have helped to offset the fact that our
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utilities have gone up, office supply
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costs have gone up. Um so those are
[18:28]
increases telephone so things that we
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don't have control over and so
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consequently those other line items have
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uh suffered
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is small. We don't have a way to bring
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it make it bigger
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and then I lose I lose a little bit of
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it on the side. Sorry, I just didn't
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know if you can make it bubble screen.
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Um, so we have um in our budget, which
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you know, I know you saw uh at budget
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time, I every year prepare a budget
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descriptor
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the way I've I've done it all along. And
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so it shows
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what is contained in a particular line
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item and where there have been increases
[19:21]
and where there have been decreases.
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Um so for the senior services budget and
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we have fitness instructors.
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Um
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a little bit sorry
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um and then as you can see um program
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development
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uh there was a $500 reduction
[19:49]
this year in that line item. I want to
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point out that that total line item is
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now $2,000.
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Um,
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of that line item, there are licensing
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fees that we have to pay. Um, there is a
[20:06]
music license. So, when we have fitness
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classes and there's music associated
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with it, we have an entertainer come um
[20:14]
any we have our coral group, uh, there
[20:17]
is a music license that needs to be
[20:19]
retained. And also too, if we're showing
[20:21]
any TED talks or a movie, we need to
[20:25]
also have a U motion picture uh license.
[20:30]
So those two licenses alone are $800.
[20:34]
When we subtract that from the 2,000, it
[20:37]
leaves us very little for uh
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programming. There is another music
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license that
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we have to retain and as a cost-saving
[20:47]
measure we um parks and Rex covers that
[20:52]
license. So, ours um our BMI license
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covers the town with that $459.
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And then the license that Parks and Rex
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carries um covers uh remember the the
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letters for the other music license. Um
[21:12]
but that covers the town also. So, we
[21:17]
have one in one budget, one in the other
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budget.
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um meetings and conferences. Uh again,
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there was a reduction in in that line
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item um with all of the changes
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uh especially to at the federal level
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with uh health insurance,
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uh SNAP benefits, um eating assistance,
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uh etc.
[21:47]
It's important that we're keeping up to
[21:49]
date with those conferences.
[21:57]
But there's any this is pretty
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straightforward. So I don't know if you
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have any questions in regards to that.
[22:02]
uh with contractual services. Again, we
[22:06]
were using Comcast
[22:08]
uh for our internet provider and we now
[22:12]
as as just as of last week are connected
[22:15]
to the uh Connecticut education network.
[22:19]
So now we are able to sever with Comcast
[22:23]
and and can save on that expense.
[22:34]
something about the machine
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like the next page or something.
[22:46]
Okay. Okay. So um
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in the bureau veritus report there was
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indicated for 2025
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repair to an exterior door. We have a
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door that is kind of corroding at the
[23:05]
bottom. It's difficult to open or close.
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>> So we're not even using that as a means
[23:10]
of egress at the moment because of the
[23:12]
condition of that tour. So I had notated
[23:16]
it as something that needed to be put in
[23:19]
the maintenance budget would be
[23:22]
not my budget maintenance budget. So I
[23:26]
just notated that. Um,
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and then again, our copier is pretty
[23:40]
much on its last leg, and so I had um
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just gotten some pricing in regards to
[23:48]
uh replacement of the copier.
[23:51]
We think we're going to maybe be able to
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switch with another department.
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regular size. So on our social,
[24:03]
recreational, and educational uh side,
[24:07]
again, we have a plethora of events. Um
[24:11]
you know, your kind of routine, what you
[24:13]
would think of as uh senior center fair
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with uh special events, celebrations,
[24:19]
volunteers, volunteer recognition,
[24:22]
musical events, discussion groups, etc., day trips, um art groups, uh tech
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assistants. Uh our new
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uh program coordinator is young and so
[24:37]
very techsavvy, so she's been able to
[24:40]
assist a lot of the seniors with
[24:42]
technical issues that they might be
[24:44]
having with their phones or laptops. Um
[24:49]
we have we work with AARP for them to
[24:51]
provide the AP smart driver course and
[24:54]
also to the tax aid program. Um our
[24:58]
fitness classes, our fitness room, we
[25:00]
work with Chattam Health District and
[25:03]
provide the vaccination clinic um health um presentations um file of life.
[25:10]
I don't know if any of you have ever
[25:12]
seen the file of life.
[25:14]
So, it's a red plastic pouch that
[25:19]
uh has a magnetic strip and can go on
[25:21]
somebody's fridge and in that is a card
[25:25]
that somebody would fill out with all of
[25:27]
their pertinent information so that if
[25:29]
emergency responders came to the home,
[25:32]
that's right there. So, if the person
[25:34]
couldn't convey the information, that's
[25:36]
right there. And there's also a wallet
[25:37]
version.
[25:38]
>> So, uh we have those at the senior
[25:40]
center. Um and also too, we work with
[25:43]
RAM. their special needs program because
[25:45]
they have students who are trying to uh
[25:49]
have a work transition
[25:52]
experiences and so we we work with them
[25:54]
too.
[25:58]
Um
[26:01]
and just uh this reiterates what I had
[26:04]
just said about the uh program line item
[26:07]
and the fact that 800 of it is consumed
[26:11]
by the licensing fees. Um, and we spend
[26:16]
our program development
[26:18]
line item on such things as
[26:21]
entertainers, speakers, instructors,
[26:23]
supplies,
[26:25]
um, refreshments, handouts, etc.
[26:33]
Um,
[26:35]
we've always been very fortunate that we
[26:39]
have a lot of seniors themselves making
[26:42]
donations. seniors who were continuously
[26:45]
bringing in coffee, bringing in um paper
[26:48]
goods, um
[26:52]
uh decorations uh for us to, you know,
[26:56]
make the senior center look welcoming
[26:59]
and and uh pleasant to to be there,
[27:02]
refreshments, etc. And and staff
[27:05]
routinely
[27:07]
makes personal contributions uh to to
[27:10]
the senior center. Um,
[27:13]
we've also had different organizations
[27:17]
who have sponsored some of our events.
[27:20]
Uh, it's usually part of their marketing efforts. Uh, but we take
[27:25]
advantage of that to again be able to
[27:28]
stretch our budget. Um, this has allowed
[27:32]
us for various years to not expend all
[27:35]
of our program line item
[27:37]
and as I mentioned, not because it's not
[27:40]
needed.
[27:41]
It's because we've had a fortunate year.
[27:44]
Um things are getting tighter and so
[27:49]
we're not seeing the donations as they
[27:52]
have been in the past and I expect that
[27:55]
to continue for a while now as uh things
[27:59]
are things are tighter and tighter with
[28:01]
people's budgets. Um, one of the things
[28:04]
is I I've always been very very well
[28:07]
aware of the fact that if I don't spend
[28:11]
all of a line item that then that
[28:13]
jeopardizes the next year that that line
[28:16]
item might get get
[28:19]
I've just never been able to say I'm
[28:22]
going to spend it just to spend it. So,
[28:25]
and I don't expect to do that in the
[28:28]
future. It's just
[28:31]
been a frugal person at home and I try
[28:33]
to be frugal with the senior center too.
[28:36]
Um, so as I said, if if money is not
[28:40]
spent, it's it's not because it's not
[28:44]
needed, it's because we were able to.
[28:48]
Thank you. Because we were able to uh
[28:53]
get donations elsewhere.
[29:01]
Um we have volunteers uh we have
[29:04]
volunteers who
[29:06]
um share their talents to lead programs.
[29:10]
We have right now we have uh two
[29:13]
volunteers who one one day a week one
[29:16]
two days a week in the morning the whole
[29:20]
day are helping to answer the phone.
[29:24]
um volunteers who deliver home delivered
[29:27]
meals. Uh that is getting harder and
[29:30]
harder. I think as gas prices are going
[29:32]
up, it's harder for us to get uh
[29:34]
volunteers who are delivering meals. And
[29:36]
then when volunteers are not available,
[29:39]
that means staff as the delivery
[29:41]
delivered of the meals um and volunteers
[29:45]
helping with special events, decorating,
[29:47]
etc. Just want to mention with the with
[29:50]
the delivery meals um meals are provided
[29:55]
by community renewal team in Hartford.
[29:58]
So the meals are then brought to us and
[30:01]
then we are responsible for then
[30:03]
delivering the meals.
[30:06]
um social services. Um we're providing
[30:10]
information and assistance regarding
[30:12]
state, federal, local, private, etc.
[30:15]
programs, veterans benefits. Um
[30:19]
information regarding inhome assistance,
[30:22]
long-term care supports. Um we we right
[30:26]
now will be soon beginning Medicare open
[30:28]
enrollment
[30:30]
um and winter heating assistance. Right
[30:33]
now we're finishing up renters rebates.
[30:36]
Uh that program ends September 30th. Um
[30:42]
we also work with AHM with their youth
[30:45]
chore program. We're the intake site for
[30:48]
uh seniors who want to partake in the
[30:50]
youth chore program. As I mentioned
[30:52]
before, we work with Gilead helping
[30:54]
hands, not just in regards to them uh
[30:59]
helping with someone who needs help with
[31:01]
transportation, but um I help Helping
[31:05]
Hands
[31:07]
will provide somebody who might need
[31:11]
assistance maybe in putting an air
[31:12]
conditioner in or out or, you know, some
[31:15]
something small. I mean not not a large
[31:18]
although they have um been able to do a
[31:22]
ramp.
[31:23]
It depends on the skills of of their um
[31:28]
their individuals. Just go back make
[31:30]
sure I touched upon it.
[31:32]
>> Sorry.
[31:35]
Um
[31:39]
caregiver guidance and support. I just
[31:41]
want to mention that that
[31:43]
with
[31:44]
caregivers um
[31:47]
we have you in town especially too when
[31:50]
we look at 60 and up. We have a lot of
[31:53]
individuals who are maybe in their 60s
[31:56]
who are caring for older
[32:01]
residents here in town. Um and so again
[32:04]
we're providing supports for both the
[32:08]
older individual and the younger older
[32:13]
individual. Um and then also too we have
[32:18]
caregivers who are um caring for someone
[32:24]
that the caregiver lives here in town
[32:26]
but they're caring for somebody who
[32:28]
lives out of town. And again they're
[32:30]
looking to us for supports. And then
[32:32]
conversely, we have caregivers who live
[32:35]
out of town caring for someone here in
[32:37]
town and so they're looking for our
[32:39]
support. So again, it kind of broadens
[32:42]
who who we're serving. Um we also too
[32:46]
have some funds that we try to make be
[32:50]
the payer of last resort.
[32:53]
um where we can help somebody with a
[32:55]
utility expense or with um a medical
[32:59]
bill or some other special needs. So, we
[33:03]
have those at our disposal.
[33:07]
Um and as I mentioned before, staying up
[33:10]
to date is um vitally important.
[33:14]
um just had an update webinar earlier
[33:19]
this week about some of the changes that
[33:21]
are coming to Medicare and there's going
[33:24]
to be some significant uh changes. So
[33:26]
again, we need to be keeping a breast of
[33:29]
all of those changes.
[33:33]
Uh transportation.
[33:35]
So um oh
[33:39]
I apologize. I just want to go back for
[33:41]
a second to the social services. Um
[33:45]
I had in my narrative mentioned you
[33:48]
don't have to go back to the slide.
[33:50]
>> In my narrative I had mentioned how our
[33:53]
social services is for 18 and up. So
[33:58]
Hein Interfaith Human Services their
[34:01]
executive director had been a social
[34:03]
worker and she retired in 2010. when she
[34:06]
retired they replaced her with a very competent individual but not
[34:12]
somebody with social work background and
[34:16]
um as it became apparent that that was
[34:19]
not the direction that [clears throat]
[34:21]
uh HIS's board was going in um
[34:27]
AHM takes care of the needs of families
[34:30]
but there really was nobody for that 18
[34:33]
plus population and so I felt uh the
[34:38]
town had a responsibility to provide
[34:40]
social services for those individuals
[34:43]
also. And at that time our social work
[34:46]
position was part-time and so
[34:49]
incrementally
[34:50]
uh that position was increased because
[34:54]
of the increase in the senior population
[34:55]
and because of the um the taking care of
[35:00]
18 plus individuals also. So that became
[35:03]
a full-time position.
[35:05]
I just wanted to mention that before I
[35:07]
forgot.
[35:09]
Um transportation again we're providing
[35:13]
transportation to 60 and up and disabled
[35:15]
individuals 18 and up. Um we have our
[35:19]
three multi-passenger handicapped
[35:20]
accessible buses six passenger the 10
[35:23]
pass and the 20 passenger which we are
[35:26]
in the process of again having the 20
[35:29]
passenger for the auction. And we have
[35:31]
our one car for medical appointments,
[35:34]
grocery and we provide transportation
[35:38]
for medical appointments, grocery
[35:39]
shopping, our mobile food share to the
[35:42]
food bank, um to and from the senior
[35:44]
center, personal leads, social day
[35:47]
trips, etc., etc. Um at present we're
[35:50]
providing approximately 2,000 rides
[35:53]
annually and surfing 78 individuals on a frequent basis about 52 I call
[36:02]
regulars and then about about another
[36:05]
130 when needed. Uh
[36:08]
again we have people who kind of come
[36:10]
and go on the program. So, somebody
[36:12]
might be needing transportation for
[36:15]
physical therapy, but now their physical
[36:17]
therapy is over and they're they're not
[36:20]
needing our services.
[36:25]
We I just will mention one other thing
[36:28]
in regards to transportation. Um,
[36:32]
one of our transportation positions, our
[36:34]
dial right positions was a full-time uh
[36:37]
individual, so full-time benefited
[36:41]
um who also took care of
[36:44]
um dispatch scheduling of seniors rides
[36:48]
and scheduling of the uh other dial ride
[36:52]
drivers.
[36:53]
She retired in April of 2025
[36:57]
and we filled that position with a
[37:00]
part-time driver unbenefited position um
[37:04]
who just drives. So again we um we lost
[37:09]
that position of providing the dispatch
[37:14]
and the scheduling etc.
[37:18]
So staff is has taken on that
[37:21]
responsibility. Also
[37:24]
um transportation costs um you can see
[37:28]
that transportation costs have gone down
[37:30]
also. Um,
[37:34]
a much of that is, and I me I mentioned
[37:38]
this in the narrative, is really because
[37:41]
of
[37:45]
the availability of drivers. It is very
[37:48]
hard to get drivers. They have to have a
[37:52]
passenger endorsement, which takes
[37:54]
months for them to get. It's they're
[37:57]
getting fingerprinted. They're having a
[37:59]
written test. they're going through a
[38:01]
physical, you know, so for a driver who
[38:04]
just says, "Oh, I'll drive seniors," you
[38:06]
know, and then they realize all of that they have to go through. Sometime
[38:10]
it discourages them. So, um it is a a
[38:14]
process for us to get drivers and all of
[38:16]
our drivers are retirees, so they want
[38:19]
retirement time, too. So, a lot of times
[38:22]
they are taking extended vacations and
[38:24]
we're scrambling to coverage.
[38:28]
So, a lot of why that line item went
[38:31]
down was because of the fact that
[38:34]
I really don't have the drivers that I
[38:38]
need to have and so to have some fill-in
[38:42]
drivers would be extremely helpful.
[38:47]
Um, that's our service area of where we
[38:50]
provide transportation.
[38:52]
Um
[38:53]
that's my rudimentary map that developed
[38:57]
over time. Um so you can see we have a a
[39:01]
35 uh town radius that we are providing
[39:05]
transportation in.
[39:10]
So, transportation is supported through
[39:14]
the federal older Americans act um as is
[39:19]
our outreach program and as is our
[39:22]
physical activity programs. But the
[39:24]
Older Americans Act stipulates that
[39:28]
um we can have suggested donations
[39:33]
but we cannot impose charges.
[39:37]
uh and that if somebody is
[39:40]
not donating that we cannot deny
[39:43]
services and we also too can't means
[39:46]
test. So again I can't decide I'm going
[39:49]
to give scholarship to somebody because
[39:52]
we can't we can't means test.
[40:01]
You can see that our suggested donations
[40:04]
are extremely low. Those were set by the
[40:09]
then commission on aging
[40:12]
um back in remember when it was it was
[40:18]
20
[40:20]
cut off there.
[40:21]
>> Yeah. So again it's quite some time ago.
[40:25]
Um
[40:29]
those have have not been revised since
[40:32]
then. As I said, you can see that
[40:33]
they're they're quite low. We don't want
[40:37]
to discourage people from using our
[40:38]
service. And so, again, having them that
[40:42]
load, I think it helps to encourage
[40:44]
people also to um transportation is one
[40:49]
of the major things that takes burden
[40:51]
off of caregivers.
[40:53]
Um transportation budget. I don't think
[40:56]
there was any really remarkable in the
[40:58]
transportation budget.
[41:01]
Just again I do the descriptor so it
[41:03]
shows you line by line
[41:10]
vehicle replacement. So, as you know,
[41:13]
the town uh plans to divest itself of
[41:17]
the 2017 20 passenger bus.
[41:22]
Um
[41:24]
has 42,000 plus miles on it and I did
[41:28]
get it appraised and it was appraised at
[41:31]
uh 33,757.
[41:33]
I don't know exactly
[41:35]
we're at
[41:37]
and that was the the value. Um, we also
[41:40]
have a 2014 Ford CMX energy hybrid car.
[41:45]
You can see the mileage on that is high.
[41:49]
Um, the useful life of that vehicle is 8
[41:53]
to 15 years and is 100,000 to 200,000
[41:57]
miles. So again, it's reaching the end
[41:59]
of its useful life.
[42:02]
Um, my recommendation would be to
[42:04]
replace this vehicle with a handicap
[42:06]
accessible minivan.
[42:08]
uh that would make our entire fleet
[42:11]
handicapped accessible. Um and
[42:16]
that would be through the utilization of
[42:18]
what's called a 5310 federal grant where
[42:22]
the town incurs 20% share of the cost
[42:25]
and the grant 80% of the cost. Um so the turnaround time for that grant
[42:40]
is about a year and a half. So I would
[42:42]
recommend when the RFPs come out
[42:46]
probably the beginning of 2027
[42:49]
that you consider applying for a 5310
[42:53]
grant or a minivan.
[42:57]
My best estimate is that uh the town
[43:00]
share would be approximately $15,000 for that that would be in the 2027 2028
[43:06]
budget. Also wanted to remark that in
[43:10]
the
[43:11]
um 5-year capital improvement plan,
[43:15]
there is a line for uh senior center
[43:18]
replacement of that vehicle for 75,000.
[43:25]
the 5310 grants were not covering the
[43:29]
expense of a minivan and so we had had a
[43:33]
placeholder in the CIP budget but now
[43:38]
they are allowing minivans. So again I
[43:41]
think we can take that out of there and look instead to utilize the 5310
[43:47]
grant.
[43:50]
Um, all multi-passenger handicapped
[43:53]
accessible buses have a useful life
[43:55]
expectancy of 5 years or 150,000 miles.
[43:59]
So, we also have the the 10 passenger
[44:01]
bus um with 91,000 miles plus. So, it
[44:08]
would be on track uh to be replaced in
[44:11]
six years.
[44:13]
Um
[44:17]
my recommendation would be if we are um
[44:20]
divesting ourselves of the 20 passenger
[44:23]
bus to replace that 10 passenger with a
[44:26]
14 passenger when the time comes.
[44:30]
Um
[44:32]
a 16 or up requires a CDL license. So,
[44:37]
if we keep it at a 14 passenger, the
[44:40]
driver would not have to have a CDL
[44:43]
license in order to drive it. They would
[44:44]
just have to have the passenger.
[44:51]
Um, and then we have our uh 2024
[44:55]
six passenger bus. Um, that was a long
[44:59]
time coming. Um, I was
[45:04]
writing that grant back when COVID hit.
[45:08]
And so it because of all of the
[45:10]
worldwide um difficulty with parts, it
[45:14]
took from 2020
[45:18]
uh to 2024 for us to finally get that
[45:20]
bus.
[45:23]
So that bus would be on track for
[45:24]
replacement in 15 to 16 years.
[45:29]
is the smallest
[45:32]
bus that uh is covered under the uh the
[45:36]
uh 5310 grant.
[45:45]
So in summary regarding the vehicles
[45:48]
um that my recommendation would be using
[45:51]
the 5310 grant to on the replacement of those vehicles. Um,
[46:02]
I think I had expounded a little bit on
[46:06]
the uh origin of us getting the the
[46:11]
hybrid car. So, the hybrid car uh grant
[46:16]
had been written through the town
[46:17]
manager's office.
[46:19]
um was not a grant that we
[46:24]
were
[46:26]
focused on uh being a benefactor, you
[46:31]
know, from uh by the senior center. Um
[46:33]
and then the we were told that the car
[46:36]
was going to be assigned to us. So
[46:39]
again, it caused us to then have a fleet
[46:43]
of four and uh
[46:47]
fleet of three does meet our needs
[46:50]
especially too with the difficulty with drivers.
[46:58]
Um the building so the one-story ADA
[47:03]
compliant 650 square foot building um
[47:08]
was built in 1990 with some addition and
[47:13]
renovations in 20 uh two. Um and then
[47:19]
again according to the facilities
[47:22]
condition assessment by bureau veritas
[47:24]
the interior and exterior finishes are
[47:26]
in good fair condition and will require
[47:28]
only life cycle replacement.
[47:34]
There's something else I want to mention
[47:35]
about. Let me just refresh my memory
[47:38]
here for a sec.
[47:43]
Oh I know. I was just going to mention
[47:45]
that the senior center serves as a
[47:49]
cooling and warming center but we cannot
[47:53]
uh serve as a shelter. We don't have a
[47:55]
generator. Um and uh again we don't have
[47:59]
uh bathing facilities
[48:04]
from the bureau veratas uh study and
[48:08]
there was the recommendation as I
[48:10]
mentioned before about the the door and
[48:13]
some exterior lighting that we're uh
[48:15]
targeting for 2025.
[48:18]
Um,
[48:20]
building projects for the next five
[48:21]
years according to them would total
[48:24]
almost $280,000.
[48:26]
Building pro building projects for the
[48:28]
following five years would
[48:32]
about $212,000.
[48:35]
Again, that would be if taking into
[48:37]
account and and this is way too small,
[48:40]
but I had again listed all of the items
[48:44]
that they had recommended
[48:47]
during the during the five-year period
[48:49]
and then the uh next five-year period.
[48:53]
I know you have a copy of the PowerPoint
[48:55]
presentation, so maybe you could see it
[48:57]
there because I can't see it that far.
[49:00]
um no singular project meets the CIP
[49:03]
threshold uh for the next 10 fiscal
[49:06]
years. Uh during the five fiscal years,
[49:09]
there's eight projects that meet the
[49:12]
10,000 to 74,999
[49:15]
capital outlay threshold. Um and during
[49:19]
the following five fiscal years, there's
[49:20]
five projects that meet that uh capital
[49:23]
outlay threshold. The only project uh
[49:27]
that Euro Veritas had uh recommended uh
[49:31]
that does meet the CIP threshold is
[49:36]
uh for 2044
[49:39]
is uh replacement of the uh brick stone
[49:43]
retaining wall.
[49:49]
The town council can help. So, um,
[49:52]
mindfulness of the, uh, demographics of
[49:54]
the town, um,
[49:58]
awareness, as I mentioned, that $800 of
[50:00]
our program development line item bid
[50:02]
budget is consumed by those licensing
[50:04]
fees, and support for a
[50:07]
multi-disciplinary team. So
[50:12]
um
[50:15]
going back 2018
[50:18]
um I had been uh starting to um advocate
[50:23]
for us to have a multid-disciplinary
[50:26]
team and that's a team of different
[50:30]
um department heads uh professionals uh
[50:37]
who serve the community.
[50:39]
um organizations again who serve the
[50:41]
community home care agencies um uh
[50:46]
medical providers etc who can get
[50:49]
together together periodically
[50:52]
and try to try try to troubleshoot and
[50:55]
to identify
[50:58]
gaps in services how we can maybe solve
[51:02]
some of the uh those gaps in services be
[51:06]
able to tap into one another's skills to
[51:09]
avoid duplication.
[51:11]
Um so I felt at that time that there
[51:15]
needed to really be some um direction
[51:21]
from the town manager's office to the
[51:24]
other department heads in order for them
[51:27]
to get buy in because if I just was
[51:30]
saying please come to a meeting
[51:34]
everybody's busy. Um so
[51:38]
finally
[51:40]
just postco
[51:42]
um I'm Dr. green light to kind of go
[51:45]
ahead with a M team. We convened an M
[51:49]
team meeting and unfortunately there was
[51:53]
very little attendance from the town's
[51:57]
departments. There was good attendance
[51:58]
from outside entities but not from the
[52:01]
town departments. So
[52:04]
it really at that point is not going
[52:08]
anywhere. I really need a more hearty
[52:12]
um
[52:13]
buy in from administration in order for
[52:18]
us to get department heads
[52:21]
avidly involved in in you know this
[52:24]
endeavor. Again
[52:27]
you see the virtue in that I would ask
[52:29]
for your support in
[52:32]
helping to get a multi-disiplinary team
[52:35]
off the ground.
[52:39]
questions.
[52:41]
>> Thanks so much for that presentation. It
[52:42]
was really informative. We really
[52:45]
appreciate it
[52:46]
>> and we appreciate all you do with
[52:49]
limited funding you have. It's obvious
[52:51]
that beyond decades here with no
[52:53]
increase in funding and it's a tall
[52:56]
order and uh I know this this year's
[52:58]
been very difficult but uh we appreciate
[53:00]
all you do. Yeah, absolutely. Um anybody
[53:04]
have any questions?
[53:06]
I do I have a couple questions. So with
[53:09]
respect to um when you talk about the
[53:12]
multi-disiplinary team and other
[53:14]
agencies that exist in town,
[53:16]
>> I'm specifically thinking about in my
[53:19]
mind ahm
[53:20]
>> and their incredible resources, their
[53:22]
expertise, their professionals.
[53:26]
Um how do you uh cooperate with them in
[53:29]
order to provide so badly needed
[53:32]
supports in your department?
[53:34]
So um
[53:37]
AHN has in the past when we have had
[53:41]
um social workers who have a bachelor's
[53:45]
degree, they've been able to provide the
[53:49]
um expertise with a master's social
[53:53]
worker um providing some oversight and
[53:56]
guidance. also too uh they house the
[54:01]
youth chore program and again as I
[54:03]
mentioned earlier we're the intake site
[54:05]
for the youth chore program
[54:08]
um they're serving they're serving
[54:11]
families so again it's a different
[54:13]
population that we're we're serving um
[54:16]
but
[54:17]
when we
[54:19]
did have our first multid-disiplinary
[54:22]
team meeting they were part of it and I
[54:24]
would plan for them to be part of it
[54:27]
moving forward So what you're saying is
[54:29]
AHM's mission doesn't necessarily apply
[54:32]
to the senior population in town.
[54:36]
>> I don't know what their mission is.
[54:38]
They're they cover, as Sharon said,
[54:41]
families, youth, and now they go up to
[54:45]
26 year olds. They'll provide social
[54:48]
services, counseling and support for
[54:51]
individuals up to 26 years old,
[54:55]
>> but not not the senior public, not
[54:59]
adults,
[55:00]
>> only up to 26.
[55:01]
>> So, but they're they'll always come to
[55:04]
the table.
[55:05]
>> Yeah. And again, their service is more D
[55:08]
mentioned counseling. So when we're
[55:11]
seeing somebody 18 to 59,
[55:15]
it's usually somebody who's experiencing
[55:18]
financial insecurity
[55:21]
um or uh underinsurability.
[55:25]
So we're typically dealing with them in
[55:27]
those respects, not counseling, so to
[55:31]
speak.
[55:33]
>> Gotcha. Understood. I had a question
[55:35]
also on meals on wheels. You mentioned
[55:37]
that uh community renewal team provides
[55:39]
the actual meals, but they only drop off
[55:42]
the meals to the senior center. Senior
[55:44]
center staff is responsible for making
[55:46]
sure that meals are distributed to
[55:48]
individual residences.
[55:50]
>> Yes.
[55:51]
>> Um is there any way that CRT could do
[55:54]
that part
[55:56]
or they don't do it? Because I know they
[55:58]
do it in Herford. Why don't they do it
[55:59]
in Hebrin?
[56:00]
>> They don't have the the staff. Um and
[56:04]
also too, as you know, geographically,
[56:07]
we have a broad area. Um we have
[56:11]
clients, you know, kind of from one end
[56:13]
of town to the other.
[56:15]
>> Um and so it would be
[56:18]
timeconuming for their staff and they just they just don't have the
[56:22]
staff.
[56:24]
>> So we so we rely on volunteers.
[56:27]
>> Right. Right. Um also I mean when I say
[56:30]
they don't have the staff they also too
[56:32]
don't have the funds. Um in my narrative
[56:35]
I had mentioned that they get federal
[56:38]
funding
[56:39]
and so typically home deliver meal
[56:43]
clientele gets a hot lunch and a cold
[56:46]
pack dinner and they can get those up to
[56:49]
seven days a week. At present because of
[56:52]
limited funding they're getting just
[56:55]
lunch and only Monday through Friday.
[56:59]
So they have a you know funding issue
[57:04]
themselves.
[57:05]
So that that's as a result of federal
[57:07]
cuts
[57:09]
that Yes. Yeah.
[57:12]
>> Uh I had another question about
[57:14]
transportation. So, you did mention
[57:16]
that, you know, we have in-house
[57:18]
transportation, actual vehicles and
[57:20]
drivers, etc.
[57:22]
Um, has there ever been like a pilot
[57:26]
program where we you could use like an
[57:28]
Uber type of service for the seniors
[57:32]
here in town
[57:34]
>> with us helping to fund the
[57:38]
>> necessarily, but is there are there
[57:42]
um I guess a dialer ride like Uber type
[57:47]
service?
[57:49]
>> That is not something we've looked at. I
[57:51]
mean I think Uber
[57:55]
and Lyft coming to Hein is relatively
[57:57]
new. Um
[57:58]
>> right
[57:59]
>> so it isn't something that we've you
[58:01]
know investigated
[58:03]
um if someone is unable to be
[58:07]
accommodated by our service. First of
[58:10]
all we really make an effort to um allow
[58:14]
them to be accommodated by our service.
[58:16]
A lot of times what will happen is if if
[58:19]
we can't accommodate a certain ride, we
[58:21]
often will contact the provider and try
[58:25]
to
[58:27]
meet a mutually convenient time when we
[58:30]
can transport the individual and they
[58:32]
can uh they they can see the individual.
[58:35]
So, you know, we kind of take that extra
[58:37]
step. Um when we we can't we have a
[58:42]
list. uh some of it is contingent upon
[58:46]
the person's
[58:50]
condition. So there might be American
[58:52]
Cancer Society might have a service that
[58:55]
they provide to people who might be
[58:57]
going for chemotherapy or radiation
[58:59]
therapy. Uh there's something for
[59:01]
veterans. So So
[59:04]
it doesn't fit the needs of everybody
[59:07]
those those uh ancillary services.
[59:10]
>> Right.
[59:11]
>> Okay. That's only
[59:15]
here real quick on um so the the 5310
[59:18]
grant
[59:19]
>> the change sounds wonderful very much
[59:22]
within our needs as a town that it does
[59:24]
apply toward transportation grants
[59:28]
>> when
[59:30]
just so we you you'll find we're very
[59:32]
receptive to grant money like as a c
[59:35]
whatever the makeup of this council this
[59:37]
council is going to be receptive to
[59:38]
grant money
[59:39]
>> all of the buses have been bought in the
[59:41]
pass with people.
[59:43]
>> So, so when I know you said for 2027,
[59:46]
but just so it's in the back of our
[59:49]
minds, hopefully forefront of yours,
[59:50]
when are you coming up to us with this
[59:54]
grant application?
[59:55]
>> So, you're not always consistent with
[59:59]
when they come up come out with the RFP.
[1:00:01]
It's usually at the beginning of the
[1:00:03]
year. Okay? So, you know, the first
[1:00:06]
couple months of the year is when I
[1:00:07]
would expect the uh RFP to come out and
[1:00:13]
then, you know, naturally there would be
[1:00:16]
period of time the grant would need
[1:00:19]
submission which I would come before you
[1:00:21]
before the grant was submitted.
[1:00:23]
>> Okay. I would certainly just urge you
[1:00:26]
early and often is with those grants
[1:00:28]
because that's
[1:00:31]
>> we all remember March
[1:00:32]
>> and it's 8020, right? That's how that
[1:00:34]
works.
[1:00:34]
>> Yeah.
[1:00:34]
>> I had I had shared with Donna that my
[1:00:37]
goal was to never write another 5310
[1:00:40]
grant in your life.
[1:00:43]
[laughter]
[1:00:43]
>> They're a lot of fun, right?
[1:00:46]
We appreciate we know so many uh of our
[1:00:49]
departments do this and of course this
[1:00:52]
is how we you know can maintain all
[1:00:55]
these vehicles and services for for you
[1:00:57]
know our citizens a lot through these
[1:00:59]
grants. So we we appreciate the efforts
[1:01:01]
you you make on that.
[1:01:02]
>> Yeah. And I'm and I'm happy that now
[1:01:04]
they will
[1:01:07]
fund minivans.
[1:01:08]
>> Yeah, for sure.
[1:01:09]
>> That will be helpful.
[1:01:10]
>> That's huge.
[1:01:14]
» Any other questions? Okay.
[1:01:16]
>> Thank you.
[1:01:16]
>> All right.
[1:01:17]
>> Thanks so much. We really appreciate the
[1:01:19]
presentation tonight.
[1:01:20]
>> Thank you.
[1:01:21]
>> Appreciate the effort.
[1:01:22]
>> Thank you.
[1:01:23]
>> It's another extremely thorough
[1:01:25]
>> Yes. Again,
[1:01:26]
>> I mean, those volunteering ahead of
[1:01:28]
time, it made it very difficult for the
[1:01:29]
larger departments coming later. That's
[1:01:31]
right. You're you're setting the
[1:01:33]
standard for presentation.
[1:01:34]
>> Yeah,
[1:01:35]
>> it's two in a row.
[1:01:36]
>> Those who volunteer.
[1:01:37]
>> I just was gonna mention I know you
[1:01:38]
don't have the housing authority
[1:01:41]
before you. So I don't know that's
[1:01:46]
they're another entities.
[1:01:50]
We are right now we're doing the
[1:01:53]
departments that have budget
[1:01:56]
requests or budget demands of us but
[1:01:58]
hopefully in the future we will be doing
[1:02:02]
reviews of all the appointed and elected
[1:02:05]
boards and commissions their charges
[1:02:07]
their composition and just
[1:02:11]
>> to get to know what some of them are
[1:02:13]
doing. So,
[1:02:14]
>> so it it benefits us as a town council,
[1:02:16]
but all of course all Hebrin citizens as
[1:02:19]
well. We want, you know, all of this
[1:02:20]
information to be out there so you guys
[1:02:22]
are making a case for your different
[1:02:24]
needs, right? It's important that you do
[1:02:26]
that. People know what you all are
[1:02:29]
doing. So, we appreciate it. We
[1:02:30]
appreciate the effort you made this very
[1:02:32]
thorough presentation. So, thank you.
[1:02:38]
» Okay. Have a good evening. Thank you.
[1:02:40]
>> Thank you.
[1:02:41]
>> All right. All right. That brings us to
[1:02:43]
ARPA funds update. Anything there?
[1:02:48]
Okay. And then that brings us to DPW
[1:02:51]
action committee update.
[1:02:54]
>> There's anything this second
[1:02:56]
>> they're off, right? This is this is the
[1:02:59]
off week. And that brings us to Mr.
[1:03:02]
Pettit with his revisions to the
[1:03:04]
employee handbook of personnel policies
[1:03:06]
and procedures. Yeah, Tiffany was
[1:03:09]
instrumental in in getting this second
[1:03:11]
half done across the finish line. Um, I
[1:03:14]
reviewed those um notations that she had
[1:03:18]
made, made a couple of adjustments and
[1:03:21]
additional notations. Those were all
[1:03:23]
sent out. I know we haven't really had a
[1:03:26]
chance to look over them fully as the
[1:03:28]
council and um I don't know if we want
[1:03:31]
to go through them necessarily tonight
[1:03:33]
or wait until um Tiffany gets back. Um,
[1:03:37]
maybe that'll give you a chance to kind
[1:03:39]
of digest on your own before we have a
[1:03:43]
full kind of run through of it. I know
[1:03:45]
this is like the first time it's getting
[1:03:47]
out there, especially, you know, it's
[1:03:49]
the first time we're kind of seeing all
[1:03:51]
the revisions from the public as well.
[1:03:54]
Um, so I I leave it up to the rest of
[1:03:57]
the council if you want to go through it
[1:03:59]
now or wait until Tiffany's back and we
[1:04:02]
all go through it together. being that
[1:04:04]
she made some of the updates, uh, many
[1:04:07]
of them probably be good for her to be
[1:04:09]
able to add some additional
[1:04:12]
justification and overview of why she
[1:04:14]
made the certain changes.
[1:04:16]
>> And I don't, you know, I know a lot of
[1:04:17]
it was just language and gender specific
[1:04:20]
language.
[1:04:21]
>> Some was and and the other thing is is
[1:04:23]
like, you know, again,
[1:04:25]
>> we're not HR professionals per se. Um, I
[1:04:28]
know I'm definitely not and there are
[1:04:30]
some sections of the the policies and
[1:04:33]
procedures that, you know, we're not
[1:04:34]
necessarily experts in. So, it gives the other counselors a chance to
[1:04:38]
take a look at it. Great.
[1:04:39]
>> Um, because I know one of the important
[1:04:42]
parts in this last section is related to
[1:04:45]
it.
[1:04:46]
>> So, you're definitely much more Okay.
[1:04:49]
>> You know, wellversed in that subject
[1:04:51]
matter than we are.
[1:04:52]
>> Sure.
[1:04:52]
>> U,
[1:04:54]
>> especially because it it looks like that
[1:04:56]
portion was written
[1:04:58]
you know, 10 plus years ago and yeah,
[1:05:01]
technology is is changing very quickly.
[1:05:05]
So,
[1:05:05]
>> okay. So, I'll make sure I make a good
[1:05:07]
effort there to review that section. I
[1:05:09]
appreciate pointing that out. I did
[1:05:11]
briefly go through it, but again, it's
[1:05:13]
been crazy week. So, I I think it's good
[1:05:16]
for us to take some time to to review
[1:05:18]
this, give it the due
[1:05:20]
>> attention it should have. So, no, I
[1:05:23]
appreciate what you've done, what uh
[1:05:25]
chair um has done as well. So, that's my
[1:05:30]
>> suggestion, but I'm open to your guys
[1:05:34]
>> opinions as well.
[1:05:36]
The only change this month is we lost
[1:05:38]
the three stars.
[1:05:40]
Yeah, I fall for those three stars.
[1:05:44]
meaning no update at this
[1:05:45]
time. So, yeah, a future meeting.
[1:05:47]
>> Okay, very good. So, we'll we'll shove
[1:05:49]
this for the the next meeting. keeping
[1:05:51]
this in our hand is definitely
[1:05:53]
>> that's a huge accomplishment. So, thank
[1:05:55]
you. Thank you to you and Tiffany and
[1:05:57]
Absent for doing that
[1:05:59]
>> agenda.
[1:05:59]
>> That's huge and I know it's been a huge gargantuan task for you both. So,
[1:06:04]
thank you both for doing it and we'll
[1:06:06]
give it the proper attention it deserves
[1:06:08]
because of all the attention you guys
[1:06:10]
gave it. So, that's the least we can do.
[1:06:12]
>> Sounds good.
[1:06:12]
>> All right. Thank you, sir. All right.
[1:06:14]
That brings us to the Homestead
[1:06:16]
Exemption Ordinance. That's really I
[1:06:18]
believe Tiffany's
[1:06:20]
uh kind of area. So, we'll we'll table
[1:06:23]
that one when she comes back. And then
[1:06:26]
that brings us to the Town Center
[1:06:27]
Project America 250 update.
[1:06:30]
>> I think that's me because Holly was had
[1:06:32]
a conflict tonight. Just a couple quick
[1:06:35]
things.
[1:06:35]
>> Great.
[1:06:36]
>> Um the next 250 meeting is on the 19th
[1:06:40]
here in this room on um 9:00 in the
[1:06:44]
morning if anybody wants to join. And
[1:06:46]
then the next big event is the night at
[1:06:50]
Black Ledge Tavern, September 25th, 6
[1:06:53]
PM. It's a dinner theater. The Hein
[1:06:56]
Community Theater will be performing.
[1:06:59]
Um there will be a buffet dinner and the
[1:07:02]
tickets are on sale. It should be a very
[1:07:06]
enjoyable evening.
[1:07:09]
>> I plan on going. Good. Um
[1:07:11]
>> should be a good time.
[1:07:12]
>> You know, one of our counselors is going
[1:07:14]
to be acting in it.
[1:07:14]
>> Definitely. someone who's not here at
[1:07:16]
the moment.
[1:07:17]
>> They had a preview of the script and
[1:07:18]
it's it's gonna be good.
[1:07:20]
>> Awesome. Okay.
[1:07:22]
>> So, buy your tickets now.
[1:07:24]
I think they they said uh they can run
[1:07:26]
out of tickets, so make sure you buy
[1:07:28]
early, right? Okay. Excellent. Anything
[1:07:31]
else?
[1:07:32]
>> That's it.
[1:07:33]
>> Okay. Thank you, Donna. All right. That
[1:07:36]
brings us to that Hein Cell phone towers
[1:07:39]
advisory group.
[1:07:41]
>> I could report out on that. Did Craig
[1:07:44]
give you you all a record?
[1:07:46]
>> He gave me a little update. Okay. But if
[1:07:48]
you want to do yours and then I'll add
[1:07:50]
if Yep.
[1:07:51]
>> Um, as part of the committee, we we met
[1:07:54]
last week. Um, we talked about the
[1:07:57]
continued contract negotiations, if you
[1:08:00]
will, with SGA
[1:08:04]
SBA Communications. Um, they came back
[1:08:07]
with another offer. Um,
[1:08:11]
and
[1:08:13]
It looks good, but the devil is in the
[1:08:16]
details. So, we did review the contract.
[1:08:20]
We had some hesitations about it. Um,
[1:08:25]
and so we're going back to them and
[1:08:26]
asking them to provide sort of like u
[1:08:31]
the little Miss Muffet or whoever the
[1:08:34]
that you know the nursery rhyme where
[1:08:35]
it's too hot, too cold, and just right.
[1:08:38]
So, we're going to ask them to go back
[1:08:39]
one more time and we're going to look at
[1:08:41]
three versions that are going to be
[1:08:44]
presented to us, which we would like the
[1:08:46]
three versions to be presented to town
[1:08:48]
council that we can show that we really
[1:08:51]
did all our due diligence, that we
[1:08:53]
vetted, that we asked questions, that we
[1:08:55]
can make the best decision for the town,
[1:08:58]
particularly from a financial
[1:09:00]
perspective and also just protecting our
[1:09:02]
assets um as well. Uh, also Chief
[1:09:07]
Starkell has also spoken to the folks
[1:09:11]
that provide communication towers for
[1:09:13]
emergency services. And so there's going
[1:09:15]
to be um some more conversations about
[1:09:18]
actual locations for these either actual
[1:09:22]
towers or um apparatus that amplify
[1:09:26]
signals in areas that are considered
[1:09:29]
dead or low signals. So progress is
[1:09:32]
being made and so more to come on those
[1:09:35]
on that the larger contract for sure in
[1:09:38]
the in the coming weeks. And was there
[1:09:41]
anything I missed?
[1:09:42]
>> I think we got it. Okay.
[1:09:43]
>> Yeah, we're waiting for the third option
[1:09:45]
which Craig said is going to be tailored
[1:09:48]
more as the one that Marboro. So there
[1:09:52]
will be
[1:09:55]
» and I know there was a misspelit who was
[1:09:58]
the who was the uh goldilocks
[1:10:02]
>> yes call us goldilocks we're looking for
[1:10:04]
that
[1:10:04]
>> and then there would
[1:10:05]
>> happy medium
[1:10:06]
>> you know alongside of doing something
[1:10:08]
you know a new contract for the existing
[1:10:12]
tower there would probably be an RFP
[1:10:16]
done for an additional tower
[1:10:21]
to be continued.
[1:10:22]
>> All right. Very good. That's good
[1:10:24]
development there. I appreciate all the
[1:10:25]
efforts there.
[1:10:26]
>> I think that's going to bring some
[1:10:28]
needed cell service to town and some
[1:10:30]
additional income that we could use
[1:10:32]
additional revenues, right?
[1:10:33]
>> It's a it's a multiaceted challenge to
[1:10:36]
bring more revenue to town. That's one
[1:10:38]
of it.
[1:10:39]
>> Great. So, that brings us to the town
[1:10:41]
website project update. Um, so I
[1:10:44]
understand, Donna, the town manager's
[1:10:47]
office has reviewed the computer
[1:10:48]
services account and has determined that
[1:10:51]
there is a shortfall of about 5 to8,000
[1:10:54]
in the 2026 2027 budget to accommodate
[1:10:58]
the full amount of this project and
[1:11:01]
we're going to provide some details on
[1:11:02]
that.
[1:11:03]
>> Sure. So the amount we need to get this
[1:11:06]
project started in this fiscal year is
[1:11:09]
$14,750.
[1:11:12]
So within the existing IT budget, we
[1:11:15]
have a little bit of funding that we can
[1:11:18]
assign to that project, but we are going
[1:11:20]
to be short and that's a range because
[1:11:22]
we don't know exactly how much we'll be
[1:11:25]
paying to revise during the course of
[1:11:28]
the rest of the year. And we have a few
[1:11:31]
projects that we are hoping to do
[1:11:35]
that we had planned to do this year for
[1:11:37]
it. um mostly securitybased projects. Um
[1:11:43]
and those are also we don't know what
[1:11:46]
the final amount of those projects will
[1:11:48]
be, but we anticipate we'll need 5 to
[1:11:51]
$8,000. That number we can't tell you
[1:11:53]
what it is today. So what we would like
[1:11:56]
to do is move ahead with the contract
[1:11:59]
with revis
[1:12:05]
with the firm number of what we need.
[1:12:07]
And our proposal would be to use or
[1:12:11]
whatever the amount is that we need
[1:12:13]
additional in our IT budget would be to
[1:12:16]
use um existing
[1:12:20]
ARPA interest. So there is interest in
[1:12:24]
ARPA that acrewed that we have not
[1:12:26]
allocated right now. We believe it's
[1:12:29]
about $15,000.
[1:12:32]
Um but there it may be a little bit more
[1:12:34]
than that because we haven't updated
[1:12:36]
that number since the last time we
[1:12:38]
looked at ARPA really. Um and we can use
[1:12:41]
ARP but interest
[1:12:44]
for anything.
[1:12:46]
So that's where we're proposing because
[1:12:49]
that way we don't have to do a transfer
[1:12:52]
from another line item. We don't have to
[1:12:54]
seek a special or supplemental
[1:12:56]
appropriation.
[1:12:58]
Um it would still leave a little bit of
[1:13:01]
a cushion in ARPA
[1:13:04]
if we needed it for the you know last
[1:13:06]
couple of projects that we're doing. So,
[1:13:08]
we'd like to move ahead so we can get
[1:13:10]
this project started knowing that we do
[1:13:13]
have a source for the funding.
[1:13:18]
>> Very good.
[1:13:18]
>> Love that idea.
[1:13:21]
>> So, is this like a one time? Is this
[1:13:24]
going to be like a higher amount the
[1:13:26]
first year? Is there implement?
[1:13:28]
>> No. So, next year, so for the first
[1:13:31]
three years, they're spreading the
[1:13:33]
implementation or the new website.
[1:13:35]
They're spreading that over the first
[1:13:37]
three years. In the fourth year, the
[1:13:40]
amount, and I think this is in your
[1:13:42]
package,
[1:13:43]
>> it is
[1:13:43]
>> the fourth year, it is going to be a
[1:13:45]
$9500 a year fee going forward. So, in
[1:13:50]
next year's budget, there will be an
[1:13:52]
increase in the IT budget of probably
[1:13:56]
around $8,000
[1:13:58]
to cover the the second year of the
[1:14:03]
three-year
[1:14:05]
basin.
[1:14:07]
>> And so, it's covering the migration of
[1:14:09]
all the content to and establishing
[1:14:11]
these sites. So, that what they're
[1:14:13]
taking is that about 25 grand I think it
[1:14:15]
was.
[1:14:16]
>> Yeah. instead of us having to up the
[1:14:19]
full amount spreading it out over three
[1:14:20]
years and then the fourth year then
[1:14:22]
we're down to what the normal yearly fee
[1:14:25]
>> the annual.
[1:14:27]
>> Yeah.
[1:14:28]
>> I mean but on on the other hand and I
[1:14:31]
know I'm glad that the audit is done and
[1:14:34]
I know we still have two more ahead of
[1:14:35]
us.
[1:14:36]
>> Yes, we do. But um you know as we as we
[1:14:40]
start to look at our unassigned fund
[1:14:42]
balance numbers like these these are the
[1:14:45]
kind of things you know we we've had
[1:14:48]
these budget conversations in the past
[1:14:50]
and I don't want to get into that
[1:14:54]
situation during budget season like we
[1:14:57]
have in the past where we're trying to
[1:14:59]
use it to supplement operations because
[1:15:03]
that's going to get us into an issue
[1:15:05]
with the accountants.
[1:15:06]
But this kind of of you know
[1:15:10]
implementation
[1:15:11]
expense is the perfect way to use a
[1:15:15]
small amount of unassigned fund balance
[1:15:17]
so we can you know slowly tweak that
[1:15:21]
number into what our target value is
[1:15:26]
and also not have these you know higher
[1:15:31]
taxes for two years and then we drop
[1:15:33]
back down to normal. I mean, don't get
[1:15:35]
me wrong, I appreciate them being open
[1:15:37]
to being able to spread that out,
[1:15:39]
>> but on the other hand, like these these
[1:15:43]
kinds of one-time fixed spikes
[1:15:46]
>> is what that unassigned fund balance is
[1:15:49]
designed to smooth out. Okay? And so
[1:15:51]
like from an accounting perspective,
[1:15:54]
this is the perfect opportunity to use
[1:15:56]
as a as a minor tweak
[1:15:59]
>> if we see that this dollar amount is is
[1:16:03]
what we want to use.
[1:16:04]
>> Yeah.
[1:16:04]
>> Well, that
[1:16:07]
>> if if we say, okay, we our target is
[1:16:10]
$100,000 less. you know, if there's 24
[1:16:13]
of it is this, that helps us get close
[1:16:15]
without having a gigantic swing where
[1:16:18]
we're above our target, below our
[1:16:20]
target, all over the place. You know, I
[1:16:23]
kind of like these little increments
[1:16:26]
because then we're not we're not making
[1:16:28]
huge adjustments that might put us in
[1:16:30]
danger of anything. So, just something
[1:16:32]
to keep in mind for when [clears throat]
[1:16:34]
we when as we get closer to budget
[1:16:36]
season.
[1:16:36]
>> Um because these kinds of implementation
[1:16:40]
>> um expenses are perfect for that
[1:16:44]
>> because that's really I mean that's
[1:16:45]
really what it's designed for is it's
[1:16:47]
you know one-time capital injections or
[1:16:51]
you know implementation costs that we're smoothing out but not
[1:16:55]
supplementing operations.
[1:17:00]
I appreciate that background.
[1:17:01]
>> Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for that,
[1:17:03]
Keith.
[1:17:03]
>> Something I would have never thought of,
[1:17:05]
>> right?
[1:17:05]
>> Thank you.
[1:17:06]
>> Count of the group.
[1:17:09]
>> Good. Um, so any any other comments?
[1:17:14]
» Okay. Um, so we do have a proposed
[1:17:16]
motion.
[1:17:18]
>> Uh, Claudia, sure. You like to read
[1:17:19]
that? Move that the Hebrin Town Council
[1:17:22]
approve moving forward with the attached
[1:17:24]
web services sales agreement with Revise
[1:17:26]
LLC to implement a new website the town
[1:17:29]
of Hebrin and authorized Donna Lanza
[1:17:31]
interim town manager to sign the
[1:17:33]
agreement and to effectuate the project.
[1:17:36]
>> Okay. So all those in favor indicate by
[1:17:38]
saying I oppose. Nay or abstain. Lia
[1:17:41]
Riley.
[1:17:42]
>> Claudia Riley I.
[1:17:43]
>> Keith Pettit.
[1:17:44]
I.
[1:17:45]
>> Sean Fitzgerald.
[1:17:46]
I.
[1:17:47]
>> Dan Lawrence I. Motion passes. Thank
[1:17:49]
you. Fantastic.
[1:17:51]
>> That's a long time coming. Thanks so
[1:17:53]
much. Appreciate all your work, Jory,
[1:17:55]
Donna,
[1:17:56]
>> Mallerie, and Absentia. You guys all
[1:17:58]
spent a lot of time in, you know,
[1:18:00]
different uh interviews with these
[1:18:02]
different companies. So glad to finally
[1:18:05]
settle on this company. I think they're
[1:18:06]
going to be great. So looking forward to
[1:18:08]
this, guys. Thank you all.
[1:18:10]
>> Thank you.
[1:18:12]
>> All right, there's the whole agreement.
[1:18:14]
You scroll through if you haven't
[1:18:15]
already. Um, okay. And so that brings us
[1:18:18]
to town manager executive search update.
[1:18:24]
So
[1:18:24]
>> you want to do it?
[1:18:25]
>> I can I can. So um we had our final
[1:18:31]
interviews
[1:18:33]
um and we've settled on a a candidate,
[1:18:36]
but we're not in a position to announce
[1:18:38]
that person yet. Uh we're very close to
[1:18:41]
signing the agreement. Um, but we are
[1:18:44]
looking forward to doing a press release
[1:18:46]
hopefully next week. Um, we're really
[1:18:49]
excited about our choice. I think that
[1:18:51]
person is going to bring a tremendous
[1:18:53]
amount of experience
[1:18:55]
>> and know how um and um just just
[1:19:00]
background in running a town uh and uh
[1:19:05]
developing a town and supporting
[1:19:08]
businesses in town. Um, so yeah, I'm I'm
[1:19:12]
super excited about our decision and and
[1:19:15]
the whole team uh came, you know, to
[1:19:17]
this to this point and we're in
[1:19:19]
agreement with our choice. So, um, I
[1:19:22]
think it was a a tre gargantuan effort
[1:19:25]
for everyone here. There was a lot of
[1:19:27]
meetings on it, a lot of interviews, a
[1:19:30]
lot of pouring through resumes,
[1:19:31]
researching about these candidates. Uh,
[1:19:34]
all of I just want the town to know all
[1:19:36]
of the town council people here tonight
[1:19:39]
spent an enormous amount of their time
[1:19:41]
to find the best person to help run our
[1:19:45]
town. And I want to thank Donna again.
[1:19:47]
You were instrumental as well helping us
[1:19:49]
work with SGR. SG and Bill were
[1:19:53]
tremendous uh partners in this. uh they
[1:19:56]
were extremely professional and um you
[1:19:59]
know they really gave us a tremendous
[1:20:01]
amount of candidates to choose from uh
[1:20:04]
and they did a tremendous amount of
[1:20:06]
their own research and assessment to
[1:20:08]
help us make informed decisions as well.
[1:20:11]
So I just want to open it up to the team
[1:20:13]
if there's anything else you guys want
[1:20:14]
to say about the process or candidate at
[1:20:17]
this time. Okay. The only other thing is
[1:20:22]
that the formal appointment will be made
[1:20:25]
at the next meeting on September
[1:20:26]
>> 7. Thank you. Thanks, K. Yeah, that's
[1:20:28]
right. So, we'll have the chair back and
[1:20:30]
so uh looking forward to making that uh
[1:20:33]
official appointment then the next
[1:20:35]
meeting in two weeks.
[1:20:37]
Very good. Okay, that's that big one. Um
[1:20:41]
so, well, in the meantime,
[1:20:44]
[laughter]
[1:20:45]
we have to reappoint the interim town
[1:20:47]
manager. So we uh by charter would do
[1:20:49]
that for another month. Um so I think we
[1:20:53]
would need a motion on that. So Keith
[1:20:55]
Pocket, could you read that motion?
[1:20:58]
>> Be it resolved, pursuant to section 601B
[1:21:01]
of the town charter, the Heintown
[1:21:03]
Council reappoints Donna Lanza to
[1:21:06]
continue as interim town manager for an
[1:21:08]
additional 30 days from September 5th,
[1:21:11]
2026 through October 5th, 2026.
[1:21:17]
All right. Any discussion?
[1:21:20]
Hearing none. All those in favor say I.
[1:21:22]
Oppose. Nay or abstain.
[1:21:25]
>> Vlatty Riley.
[1:21:26]
>> Vlad Riley. I.
[1:21:27]
>> Keith Pettit.
[1:21:27]
I.
[1:21:28]
>> Sean Fitzgerald.
[1:21:30]
>> Jam Lawrence I. Motion passes.
[1:21:35]
All right. Thank you. So that brings us
[1:21:36]
then to the Hein Solar One project
[1:21:40]
discussion. Um so um at a special
[1:21:44]
meeting on August 27th, 2026, the
[1:21:47]
Heintown Council voted to request party
[1:21:49]
status and the Hein Solar One project.
[1:21:52]
The town attorney will be filing the
[1:21:54]
request on behalf of the town and an
[1:21:57]
update is to be provided.
[1:22:00]
So, we distributed for you tonight um
[1:22:04]
the draft of the attorney's submission
[1:22:08]
that will be sent tomorrow. Um and then
[1:22:12]
attached to that is the summary that we
[1:22:16]
gave him to to work from the items that
[1:22:20]
the council pointed out at the last
[1:22:22]
meeting. Um, I think the only decision
[1:22:27]
tonight would be whether or not the
[1:22:30]
council wants to request as part of this
[1:22:34]
submission
[1:22:35]
a public hearing.
[1:22:39]
It's not necessary. The town attorney
[1:22:42]
said at this point there is no public
[1:22:44]
hearing scheduled. Um, they do not have
[1:22:47]
to hold a public hearing. If we request
[1:22:50]
one, they still don't have to hold it.
[1:22:53]
They can if if they want to. On the
[1:22:56]
public hearing would allow us to
[1:23:00]
um submit evidence, ask um questions,
[1:23:07]
interview
[1:23:09]
if there is, you know, any
[1:23:12]
public hearing. So, it's not necessary
[1:23:15]
and it's not something that you were
[1:23:17]
requesting. But he just wanted you to
[1:23:20]
know it is an option. So tomorrow we can
[1:23:25]
um ask him to submit it as it is or we
[1:23:28]
can remove the public hearing request
[1:23:30]
and submit it just for the party status
[1:23:34]
request.
[1:23:36]
>> The planning and zoning commission has
[1:23:38]
already submitted their letter that is
[1:23:41]
already on the sighting council website.
[1:23:45]
I mean, I would say personally as as one
[1:23:47]
of the ones who voted I to the narrowly
[1:23:50]
passing of becoming party status, I
[1:23:54]
would say the public hearing would
[1:23:56]
overstep what I was voting I for. This
[1:23:59]
is purelyformational. We want to remain
[1:24:02]
a businessfriendly town.
[1:24:03]
>> Yeah.
[1:24:04]
>> And
[1:24:06]
a public hearing tips into business
[1:24:09]
unfriendly.
[1:24:10]
>> I concur.
[1:24:11]
>> So, yeah. So, no.
[1:24:13]
>> Yeah. I I already had talked uh to Don
[1:24:17]
about it and felt the same way. That was
[1:24:19]
not the spirit of our original request.
[1:24:21]
I know it was a tight vote. I I do
[1:24:24]
think, you know, the spirit of it was to
[1:24:26]
be informed and and we want to inform uh
[1:24:30]
the Hein citizens as much as we possibly
[1:24:32]
can about the project uh so that they
[1:24:35]
understand what is being done and that
[1:24:37]
was the intent
[1:24:39]
and the other two council members voted
[1:24:41]
against doing it in the first place.
[1:24:42]
>> Right. That's all right. So, so no
[1:24:44]
additions.
[1:24:44]
>> Okay, that is
[1:24:46]
>> you that. Okay. Okay. Very good. So,
[1:24:49]
we'll just take that out.
[1:24:51]
>> Thank you. Thank you, Don. Appreciate
[1:24:52]
that. Thanks, everybody.
[1:24:54]
>> Any other old business before the
[1:24:56]
council?
[1:24:58]
>> Any other old business?
[1:25:00]
>> Hearing none, that brings us to new
[1:25:02]
business. Um, first item is a requested
[1:25:06]
waiver for winter.
[1:25:07]
>> Are you still supply? Are you still
[1:25:09]
awake over there, Paul? All
[1:25:11]
right.
[1:25:13]
>> You you absorbing all this today?
[1:25:14]
>> Exactly. [laughter]
[1:25:18]
» Um,
[1:25:19]
>> good evening.
[1:25:21]
>> Um, yeah, I'm mentioning the word salt.
[1:25:23]
You guys are about to have some burgers
[1:25:25]
on the grill this weekend. So,
[1:25:27]
>> salt burgers are good.
[1:25:28]
>> Yeah, a little add a little extra salt.
[1:25:30]
Good for blood pressure. [laughter]
[1:25:32]
Basically what I'm coming here to you
[1:25:34]
guys to say to get is a bid waiver
[1:25:37]
because of the prod is a Morton salt
[1:25:40]
which I had lead last year and I had
[1:25:44]
supply of salt for almost the whole
[1:25:46]
winter and Morton
[1:25:48]
um from the communities I talked to
[1:25:50]
other public work directors they had run
[1:25:52]
out and the quality of the salt was just
[1:25:55]
they're scraping basically the bottom of
[1:25:57]
the barrel to give them some salt to
[1:25:59]
give them the storms And when lead ran
[1:26:03]
out of uh treated salt, they offered me
[1:26:05]
regular salt if I needed it in place of
[1:26:08]
uh the treated salt so they can keep me
[1:26:11]
sort of afloat and which was a great
[1:26:13]
thing. So then also this year Morton
[1:26:15]
salt I believe is a little better for
[1:26:17]
the state of Connecticut also. So a lot
[1:26:19]
more uh communities are going to be
[1:26:22]
getting out going with Morton this year.
[1:26:24]
So, I just want to step aside so we
[1:26:27]
speak and go with the next bit up. And
[1:26:29]
uh it's a dollar more a ton. And you can
[1:26:31]
see on the sheet here, last year we went
[1:26:33]
to 1,475 tons and the year before that
[1:26:37]
we did like 600. So around,000
[1:26:40]
more than it cost us this year if we
[1:26:43]
were to go this route if on average. So,
[1:26:47]
>> and you repented trying to run uh avoid
[1:26:50]
the situation of maybe running out or
[1:26:51]
running into supply issues.
[1:26:53]
>> I mean, you need for basic snow for
[1:26:55]
media obviously employees, you need
[1:26:57]
equipment, you need salt and then, you
[1:26:59]
know, so if we don't have materials and obviously fuel you need too. So,
[1:27:05]
>> right.
[1:27:06]
>> So, I don't want to run I don't run
[1:27:07]
around salt and I do something different
[1:27:10]
than other municipalities. I don't wait
[1:27:12]
to get down low in salt. I order every
[1:27:14]
storm. So every storm if we use up 75
[1:27:16]
pound tons, boom, ordered next day. So
[1:27:19]
>> well, you guys always do a fantastic
[1:27:20]
job. I really appreciate it. Absolutely.
[1:27:23]
Back at my my guys, my team.
[1:27:25]
>> Always. I mean, uh I I that was one of
[1:27:27]
the first things I noticed moving to
[1:27:28]
town was my god, these guys, they clean
[1:27:30]
the road so quick. It's it's amazing,
[1:27:32]
right? So just kudos to your whole team.
[1:27:34]
>> We try we try hard, you know.
[1:27:36]
>> Yeah, we appreciate it. It's it's it's
[1:27:37]
obvious. Yeah, we appreciate it.
[1:27:39]
>> Thank you.
[1:27:40]
>> Any
[1:27:42]
questions? I just hope that the bridge
[1:27:44]
gets done before winter because I I like
[1:27:47]
being on old Colchester because it
[1:27:48]
always gets plowed first.
[1:27:50]
>> Yes, it will. Right.
[1:27:52]
>> They're actually supposed to be pouring
[1:27:53]
concrete tomorrow that one of the things
[1:27:55]
came in late today. So, they're going to
[1:27:56]
wait till Tuesday to pour more concrete,
[1:27:58]
but it should be done by uh Turkey Day.
[1:28:01]
>> Perfect.
[1:28:01]
>> They're on schedule.
[1:28:02]
>> Okay.
[1:28:03]
>> And right, you know, all the all the
[1:28:04]
money. They're right on right on
[1:28:06]
schedule of everything. So,
[1:28:07]
>> fastest bridge in history. My goodness.
[1:28:09]
Right. before you know it.
[1:28:10]
>> Producing Colchester took 10 years.
[1:28:13]
>> Nice work.
[1:28:15]
>> Fantastic. All right. So, thanks for
[1:28:18]
that, Paul. All right. And I think
[1:28:19]
you're gonna have another one, but we'll
[1:28:20]
vote on this one first. So, I think that
[1:28:23]
>> uh I'll ask Sean to leave this one.
[1:28:27]
Sure.
[1:28:28]
>> You're next.
[1:28:29]
>> I can next on the
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>> Thank you for the zoom. I'm not that
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old.
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>> [laughter]
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>> I move that the Hebrin Town Council in
[1:28:38]
accordance with the town of Hebrin
[1:28:40]
purchasing policies and procedures
[1:28:42]
approve a bid waiver and award the
[1:28:43]
contract for winter salt supply to lead
[1:28:46]
salt.
[1:28:46]
>> All right. Have any I have to say that
[1:28:49]
correctly or else I would have
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>> All right. Any other discussion on the
[1:28:53]
salt hearing? None. All those in favor
[1:28:57]
say I. Oppose. Nay or abstain. Claudia
[1:29:00]
Riley.
[1:29:00]
>> Claudia Riley. I
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>> Keith Pettit.
[1:29:02]
>> Keith Pett. I
[1:29:03]
>> Sean Fitzgerald.
[1:29:04]
Jan Lawrence I motion
[1:29:06]
passes. You got your salt.
[1:29:09]
>> Thank you.
[1:29:09]
>> All right.
[1:29:10]
>> We didn't want salt.
[1:29:13]
[laughter]
[1:29:14]
>> That's right. That's right. It's going
[1:29:16]
to get a little punchy now. It's getting
[1:29:17]
late in there meeting.
[1:29:19]
>> All right. So now we also have a
[1:29:21]
requested waiver for street markings. So
[1:29:24]
apology you
[1:29:25]
>> Yeah, we've been using the Atlantic
[1:29:27]
pavement marking for the last little
[1:29:29]
since I've been here three years. And uh
[1:29:31]
I use them in my prior job also and they
[1:29:35]
do an overall decent job, but they they
[1:29:38]
just to me they don't seem to be up to
[1:29:40]
my where I want to see it. I drive
[1:29:42]
around, I notice I put like 12,000 miles
[1:29:45]
just in this town blowing my vehicle
[1:29:48]
every year. So I notice every little
[1:29:50]
thing and I notice every year that they
[1:29:52]
vary left and right of the lines and
[1:29:53]
stuff like I'm not sure if it's because
[1:29:55]
of a car coming at them. I I don't
[1:29:56]
really know. So the other company that
[1:29:59]
we're looking at going through, they
[1:30:01]
safety markings, they actually mark at
[1:30:02]
night time. They'll actually come in
[1:30:04]
here at like 10 o'clock at night and
[1:30:05]
mark it off. So when you wake up in the
[1:30:06]
morning, your lines are fresh.
[1:30:08]
>> So we spend about $20,000 a year on line
[1:30:12]
street markings, some in the fall
[1:30:14]
because like Burrows Hill, we like to
[1:30:15]
get it before the snow flies here
[1:30:18]
because it tends to be darker out. Those
[1:30:20]
are the windy roads and stuff like that.
[1:30:22]
Then in the springtime, we just hit the
[1:30:24]
rest of the road so it's nice and fresh
[1:30:25]
all summer long. So, but I'd like to go
[1:30:28]
with the next uh on the next on the
[1:30:31]
prime bid uh the safety markings.
[1:30:33]
>> Okay. Any any questions on that one?
[1:30:36]
>> It's not the same. It's a quality issue.
[1:30:39]
>> Yeah. I mean, when you have the squirrel
[1:30:41]
carcass in the middle of the road and
[1:30:42]
the two live, [laughter]
[1:30:46]
>> we got a few of those, I'm afraid. All
[1:30:49]
right. Very good. Uh any other
[1:30:51]
questions, comments? All right. So,
[1:30:54]
let's see it real quick, please. So,
[1:30:57]
you've already done the math. What would
[1:30:59]
be the difference?
[1:31:01]
>> I see the the 1.4 cents per foot.
[1:31:04]
>> I'm going to be putting some of the line
[1:31:06]
marking like uh the ones we the roads we
[1:31:08]
do this year. They're going to be coming
[1:31:09]
out of our road improvement budget. So,
[1:31:12]
I don't have the exact cost, but you can
[1:31:14]
see the breakdown um in the write up of
[1:31:17]
what what's the difference is
[1:31:19]
>> 30. You have to add the two together. So
[1:31:21]
it's 30 cents or something like that per
[1:31:24]
mile. And then he gives you the
[1:31:27]
estimated the estimated miles.
[1:31:29]
>> So the difference would be three cents a
[1:31:30]
mile. Just again just just because I've
[1:31:32]
got a calculator here. Let me just
[1:31:35]
>> Yeah. Thanks. So that I know what I'm
[1:31:37]
getting myself into here
[1:31:39]
times.
[1:31:40]
>> And not every road gets painted every
[1:31:41]
year. Some of the side streets will hold
[1:31:43]
off and when it starts to fade we'll hit
[1:31:44]
it then.
[1:31:47]
>> And perfect road. All the roads get paid
[1:31:49]
painted every year.
[1:31:51]
I don't think we need to do that.
[1:31:52]
>> We have a four low forest here.
[1:31:54]
>> Okay.
[1:31:55]
>> Yeah. Thanks for the question, Sean.
[1:31:57]
>> Which would be Yeah. I mean, so less
[1:31:59]
than less than a 10% increase for
[1:32:01]
significant quality.
[1:32:02]
>> Mhm.
[1:32:05]
>> The contractor did tell me it may take
[1:32:06]
two years for it to get up to his liking
[1:32:09]
also. But I said, "Listen, we we'll try
[1:32:11]
it out one year, and if it's the same
[1:32:13]
sort of quality, then I'm just gonna go
[1:32:15]
back to the the other company." But I
[1:32:18]
got a big favor in this company. Okay.
[1:32:21]
>> Very good. Buddy, you want to read this
[1:32:22]
one?
[1:32:23]
>> Sure. Move that the Hein Town Council in
[1:32:25]
accordance with town of Hebrin
[1:32:27]
purchasing policies and procedures
[1:32:29]
approve a bid waiver and award the
[1:32:31]
contract for street markings to safety
[1:32:33]
markings.
[1:32:34]
>> Very good. All right. So, all those in
[1:32:36]
favor say I. Oppose. Nay or abstain. Ly
[1:32:39]
Riley.
[1:32:40]
>> Ly Riley. I
[1:32:41]
>> Keith Pett.
[1:32:42]
>> Keith Pettit. I.
[1:32:42]
>> Sean Fitzgerald.
[1:32:44]
>> Jan Lawrence I. Motion passes.
[1:32:48]
>> You got your lines.
[1:32:50]
your soul
[1:32:52]
priority. That's all I got to say.
[1:32:54]
>> That's it.
[1:32:55]
>> Thanks for spending time with us. Thanks
[1:32:57]
for waiting for us. I appreciate it.
[1:32:59]
>> See you guys.
[1:33:00]
>> Good night.
[1:33:00]
>> Less than a month from now. My
[1:33:02]
presentation.
[1:33:02]
>> That's right. That's right. Looking
[1:33:03]
forward to it.
[1:33:04]
>> Sharon put a good presentation up
[1:33:05]
tonight. So
[1:33:06]
>> she did.
[1:33:06]
>> I got to kick it up.
[1:33:08]
>> I'm telling you, these guys are setting
[1:33:09]
the bar high.
[1:33:11]
>> All right. Take care. Thanks, Paul.
[1:33:14]
>> All right. So, let's see. That brings us
[1:33:16]
to discussion of a potential noise noise
[1:33:20]
ordinance.
[1:33:22]
>> I'm going to hand it over to Keith
[1:33:24]
Pettit.
[1:33:26]
>> I mean, I just
[1:33:27]
>> I didn't know what this was about. I'm
[1:33:28]
sorry. I forget.
[1:33:29]
>> Well, this is something that we're going
[1:33:31]
to have to do some some research on.
[1:33:33]
Okay. Um because you know one of the one
[1:33:36]
of the major things with
[1:33:39]
the potential issue from the solar one
[1:33:43]
>> is that um
[1:33:45]
>> you know obviously it's private land. We
[1:33:47]
can't
[1:33:48]
>> get involved. The sighting council is
[1:33:50]
going to
[1:33:52]
>> you know make the decision on what can
[1:33:54]
and can't go in. However, as a
[1:33:56]
community, we can um enforce certain
[1:34:00]
ordinances related to the the number one
[1:34:04]
issue with facilities like this is the
[1:34:08]
you know abundance of noise that's
[1:34:10]
caused by the large power inverters. And
[1:34:13]
so what we can look into is having some
[1:34:17]
sort of townwide ordinance that is not
[1:34:19]
specific to any one company or land
[1:34:22]
owner, but that addresses the problem
[1:34:25]
imposed by, you know, large inverters or
[1:34:29]
other large electrical equipment that
[1:34:31]
have a continuous high decibel hum and
[1:34:35]
how that affects, you know,
[1:34:39]
>> abuing land owners, right?
[1:34:41]
>> Yeah. So, um, it's just something that I
[1:34:43]
wanted to kind of bring to our
[1:34:44]
attention. We can look around to see if
[1:34:47]
there's other communities that have, you
[1:34:49]
know, similar ordinances. I know a lot
[1:34:52]
of communities have noise ordinances
[1:34:54]
pertaining to before a certain hour,
[1:34:56]
after a certain hour, but I think this
[1:34:59]
should be more tailored specifically to,
[1:35:03]
you know, because it's a it's the
[1:35:06]
persistent loud humming of electrical
[1:35:08]
equipment
[1:35:10]
>> that yeah, you might not notice it if
[1:35:12]
you're driving by it because it hums and
[1:35:14]
then it goes away. But if you're an
[1:35:16]
abuing land owner and every time you
[1:35:18]
walk out your front door, it sounds like
[1:35:20]
there's this like swarm of bees five
[1:35:23]
feet behind you, that can get annoying
[1:35:26]
after six months. No doubt. you know, so
[1:35:29]
um I think that that's something, you
[1:35:31]
know, a simple good neighbor ordinance,
[1:35:35]
um having some sort of soundproofing or
[1:35:37]
other things that prevent that kind of
[1:35:40]
persistent noise from crossing um you
[1:35:44]
know, landlines.
[1:35:45]
>> Yeah. No, I think it's a great idea. Um,
[1:35:48]
you know, we we were researching uh
[1:35:51]
these other projects this company
[1:35:53]
carried out and that was one of the
[1:35:55]
issues
[1:35:56]
>> that was brought up in one of the towns.
[1:35:58]
And um and you know, again, it's better
[1:36:01]
to preempt this and and have them, you
[1:36:03]
know, require them to have the proper
[1:36:05]
sound deadening equipment uh to prevent
[1:36:09]
that from happening because now these
[1:36:11]
towns is is having an issue with trying
[1:36:13]
to get them to put up some kind of sound
[1:36:15]
barrier.
[1:36:17]
So, we want to avoid that.
[1:36:19]
>> Yeah. And it's and and I, you know, I
[1:36:21]
don't want to be seen, again, you know,
[1:36:24]
we talked about the business friendly
[1:36:25]
environment. Sure. Um, I don't want to
[1:36:27]
be seen as like picking on one
[1:36:30]
particular property owner or business.
[1:36:32]
This would be something that would be
[1:36:34]
townwide. Sure.
[1:36:35]
>> It would be something known that before
[1:36:38]
a company even comes in, they know,
[1:36:40]
look, I have to be a good neighbor. I
[1:36:42]
have to abide by these rules. And it's
[1:36:44]
not something where we're picking and
[1:36:47]
choosing who we're going to be
[1:36:50]
>> allowing. It's it's a more standard
[1:36:53]
businessfriendly environment because,
[1:36:55]
you know, a lot of people think that
[1:36:57]
businesses, you know, hate towns that
[1:37:00]
have these inordinate expectations or
[1:37:02]
whatever. It's it's not that. If a
[1:37:04]
business knows what it's going what it's
[1:37:07]
getting into from the beginning, they
[1:37:09]
can plan and either say that's for me or
[1:37:11]
that's not for me. Um, but it's when
[1:37:13]
businesses come in and they are abiding
[1:37:17]
by the rules and then as soon as they
[1:37:20]
show interest, they start getting above
[1:37:22]
and beyond push back, right?
[1:37:24]
>> That's when we become a business
[1:37:25]
unfriendly environment.
[1:37:27]
>> You don't want to make it be a moving
[1:37:28]
target, right? You don't want them to
[1:37:30]
have to, oh, well, we did that now, but
[1:37:32]
we want that. Oh, no, but now we want
[1:37:34]
this. Yeah, we want to avoid that. We
[1:37:36]
want to be upfront. Hey, this is what
[1:37:38]
we're expecting. We don't think it it's overreaching
[1:37:42]
>> and this is what we expect of everybody
[1:37:44]
just you.
[1:37:44]
>> Yes. Exactly. Exactly. Right. Um because
[1:37:48]
you know again we will see in the future
[1:37:50]
what other businesses come to town but
[1:37:52]
again we want to protect u residents as
[1:37:55]
well and but at the same time be
[1:37:58]
business friendly. So I think it's it
[1:37:59]
makes a lot of sense.
[1:38:01]
>> Yeah. I do think just with noise
[1:38:04]
ordinances we would have to understand
[1:38:08]
how that would be enforced
[1:38:10]
>> and that has been the you know one of
[1:38:12]
the main issues when noise ordinance has
[1:38:16]
that issue has come up a few times over
[1:38:18]
the last many years
[1:38:20]
>> is how how you enforce it. Do you have
[1:38:22]
someone who can enforce it
[1:38:25]
>> and you need a decibel meter it has to
[1:38:28]
be calibrated you have to be able to
[1:38:30]
respond. So we would have to understand
[1:38:33]
how all of that works.
[1:38:34]
>> That's right.
[1:38:35]
>> And I I understand that this would be
[1:38:38]
specific to the electronic noise. It not
[1:38:42]
just a in general noise ordinance
[1:38:45]
because the couple of times that that
[1:38:47]
has come up over the years. It has been
[1:38:52]
um not well received.
[1:38:54]
Let's just put it that way. We've had
[1:38:56]
it. We've had um the most recent time we
[1:39:00]
went as far as public hearing because we
[1:39:02]
had a proposed ordinance. We were moving
[1:39:04]
ahead with it.
[1:39:06]
>> Public hearing. There was a huge
[1:39:08]
outpouring against
[1:39:11]
implementing a noise ordinance. So,
[1:39:13]
>> do you remember what they were uh what
[1:39:15]
were the issues? Um it was back in 2006
[1:39:20]
2007
[1:39:22]
and I think the reason we were pursuing
[1:39:24]
a noise ordinance at that time was a lot
[1:39:27]
of um ATVs and motor bikes and you know
[1:39:31]
very disruptive in certain
[1:39:33]
neighborhoods. We did the public hearing
[1:39:37]
um but
[1:39:39]
too many people came out against it just
[1:39:43]
you know
[1:39:44]
taking away their their right to enjoy
[1:39:47]
their own property and at that time it was determined that
[1:39:53]
we backed off a little bit with the
[1:39:55]
understanding that we would just fall
[1:39:57]
back on the state statutes that do cover
[1:40:01]
noise.
[1:40:02]
>> I see.
[1:40:04]
and the time before that it was pretty
[1:40:06]
much the same. It didn't get that far.
[1:40:09]
Um but when they started talking about
[1:40:11]
it was more with construction noise they
[1:40:14]
decided, you know, let's just deal with
[1:40:16]
it administratively. So
[1:40:19]
>> yeah, and I think that is something that
[1:40:21]
we're going to have to address because
[1:40:22]
again, this is not this is not meant
[1:40:24]
for, you know,
[1:40:27]
residential use as far as like a
[1:40:29]
homeowner with an outside generator.
[1:40:32]
like that's this is meant for ongoing
[1:40:34]
persistent operations. I I think that
[1:40:37]
when we do start looking at the specific
[1:40:39]
language, it's going to have to be
[1:40:41]
specific to either commercial or
[1:40:43]
industrial continue
[1:40:46]
or right, you know, like persistent use of equipment.
[1:40:51]
>> Um,
[1:40:53]
>> and you know, that's that's something
[1:40:54]
that we can get into with that. But
[1:40:57]
yeah, I I agree with Donna. Like
[1:40:58]
especially the enforcement side of it
[1:41:00]
when you're dealing with what we might
[1:41:03]
consider the normal nuisance reporting.
[1:41:06]
Oh, this person was doing something.
[1:41:08]
Yeah. For a couple of hours, but that's very different from I don't think
[1:41:13]
anybody would have an issue with an
[1:41:14]
electrical transformer that only hummed
[1:41:16]
for an hour a day.
[1:41:18]
>> They probably wouldn't even notice. But
[1:41:21]
when you're talking, you know, 247
[1:41:24]
>> uh persistent like then that that starts
[1:41:27]
to become an issue.
[1:41:29]
>> Um so, you know, that's
[1:41:31]
>> that's something that again it has to
[1:41:33]
we'll have to look at how the language
[1:41:35]
looks as we get further down the road.
[1:41:37]
>> Sure. But um it'll be very much tailored
[1:41:40]
so that we're not kind of chasing this,
[1:41:43]
you know,
[1:41:44]
>> the normal residential
[1:41:46]
spikes in things related to, you know,
[1:41:50]
an outside generator or
[1:41:53]
>> enjoying, you know, a gasoline motor
[1:41:56]
vehicle or whatever it happens to be,
[1:41:58]
lawn mower, you know, that's that's not
[1:42:00]
what this is, right?
[1:42:01]
>> This is for persistent
[1:42:03]
>> noises. Leave blowing's coming.
[1:42:06]
>> Yeah. So, yeah, I'm afraid that's
[1:42:08]
coming. Uh, very good. No, I appreciate
[1:42:11]
you bringing that up. I think it's
[1:42:13]
definitely worthwhile looking into. I'm
[1:42:16]
curious what state statutes are out
[1:42:18]
there, too, you know, but probably no
[1:42:21]
probably nothing specific to that type
[1:42:24]
of industrial
[1:42:26]
noise because um of the experience that
[1:42:29]
has happened in the past. But yeah, no,
[1:42:32]
I think it's it's important uh that we
[1:42:34]
look into that for sure. Yeah.
[1:42:37]
Good.
[1:42:38]
>> Put out a new town manager's list.
[1:42:42]
>> Perfect. Well,
[1:42:42]
>> we'll build a list for that person. I'm
[1:42:45]
sure we'll have some ideas. Um, very
[1:42:47]
good. Um, excellent. Thanks for that.
[1:42:50]
All right. Um, so that brings us to the
[1:42:53]
draft agenda for the September 17th
[1:42:57]
regular meeting. I can scroll down to
[1:43:00]
that. Um
[1:43:05]
and
[1:43:06]
looks at that. Um yeah, I think we're seeing an appointment there.
[1:43:12]
Number six.
[1:43:16]
Any comments, additions to that right
[1:43:19]
now?
[1:43:21]
>> If anybody has anything they'd like us
[1:43:23]
to add just right, we got
[1:43:25]
>> next week. You just need to know what is
[1:43:27]
it the Friday by the Friday before
[1:43:30]
>> earlier as
[1:43:33]
early as possible. Friday we're sending
[1:43:35]
out the agenda so before Friday.
[1:43:38]
>> Got it. Very good.
[1:43:40]
>> All right.
[1:43:41]
>> Thank you.
[1:43:42]
>> Thanks for that. Any other new business
[1:43:44]
before the council?
[1:43:46]
We have new business.
[1:43:50]
>> All right. Hearing none, we come to the
[1:43:52]
consent agenda. Consent agenda items are
[1:43:54]
considered to be routine in nature which
[1:43:57]
the council may not need to discuss
[1:43:59]
individually and may be voted on as a
[1:44:01]
group. Any council member who wishes to
[1:44:04]
discuss a particular item in this
[1:44:06]
section may request the chair to remove
[1:44:08]
it for later discussion and a separate
[1:44:11]
vote if necessary. So first of all we
[1:44:14]
had the we need we have the approval of
[1:44:16]
minutes for the August 20th 2026 regular
[1:44:19]
meeting. Um, were there any issues with
[1:44:23]
the minutes of the last meeting?
[1:44:29]
» We're hearing none. Do we just approve
[1:44:31]
those by consensus or do we have to vote
[1:44:32]
on those individually?
[1:44:34]
>> You can vote on the whole thing. So,
[1:44:36]
that motion
[1:44:38]
>> proposed motion. Does the minutes handle
[1:44:40]
all the tax refund?
[1:44:41]
>> Very good. And so, I signed all those
[1:44:43]
tax refunds. So, um, if we can just, uh,
[1:44:47]
I'll make a motion to approve the
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minutes for the August 2026 regular
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meeting and the tax refunds.
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Um,
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so I'll put that to a vote. Uh, Claudia
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Riley,
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>> Riley, I,
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>> Keith Pett, I,
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>> John Fitzgerald,
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>> Sean Fitzgerald, I,
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>> and Jan Lawrence, I
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that passes. That takes us to liaison
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reports. John Fitzgerald of AHM Youth
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Services.
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>> I do I do this meeting. It'll be quick.
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Kim uh HM has their well it's it's not
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annual. It's new. Hopefully annual
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Dancing with the Stars fundraiser. Oh,
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cool.
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>> held at RAM on September 19th 6 PM. Uh
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working with a number of local dance
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studios. So, should be a lot of fun. Um
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tickets are $12 in advance, 15 at the
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door. And you can learn more at ahm
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youth.org.
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>> Fantastic. All
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right, thanks Sean. Um, we have Hein
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board of ed, but of course Tiffany is
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not here.
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>> Um, I don't know of any updates on board
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event, so we'll just move on.
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>> Keith start to the school year.
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>> That Okay, there you go. It's like they
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got they got new roofs.
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>> They got new roofs, right? They got new
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roofs. So, we know that's definite.
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>> And they got a new fire panel, too, that
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he would help, right? That's good stuff.
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>> Excellent. All right. Uh, Board of
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Finance, Keith Pett,
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>> they have not met.
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>> Okay. Uh, open space has not met. WPCA
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is meeting next week. So, I'll be at
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that meeting next week. So, I'll have
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something to report at the next meeting
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for the town council. So, that takes us
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to RAM board of ed for Claudia.
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>> Yes. So, I do have something to report.
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Uh, the RAM board of education met uh
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for their first meeting. Welcome back,
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school year, etc. Um, as you all know,
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um, Donna did mention that there is a
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special meeting on September 10th, uh,
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that the superintendent did send out a
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letter, uh, explaining the reason for
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the meeting and all of the various, um,
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where, when, etc. So, the public
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obviously is invited to listen to that
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important announcement. on September
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10th uh at the policy and programming
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subcommittee meeting uh the there was a
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approved policy passed around AI
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artificial intelligence
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>> which is a hot topic clearly
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>> it needs to be for staff and students
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and approving so that was one policy uh
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also they approved granting the Colombia
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students credits for art foundation and
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algebra 1 if they pass the course and
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choose to attend RAMP. Um the credit
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would not go to other schools of choice
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but they will at RAM. Hopefully it makes
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RAM more enticing choice for the open
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choice program or the surrounding towns
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that participate.
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Uh they also approved reducing nonprofit
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costs to rent space at RAM for
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um approved Hebrin Andover and Marbor
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nonprofits. So, they're going to reduce
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the rate from 175 to $100 an hour with a
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minimum of a 4hour minimum. This came up
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at the pre-me
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um with the chair and the superintendent
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with three people attending before the
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last board of education meeting. So,
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they were responsive to those requests
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for assistance there. $100 an hour fee
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will cover the cost of custodians,
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water, electricity, etc. So they're not
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paying for them
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uh to use the space and the subcommittee
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felt it makes us a good partner with the
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regional communities to reduce the price
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and lessen the burden on the nonprofits.
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Um and so those subcommittee
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recommendations will be brought to the
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full board of ed
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on for a vote a final vote and final
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approval on the next general meeting on
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September 14th. And that's it.
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>> Very good. a lot going on.
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>> I know.
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>> And I'm sorry, I misspoke earlier. They
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have met. It's just we have met three
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times since then.
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>> Oh, so
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>> it's all I was thinking to myself. I'm
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like, no, they they have met since our
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last business meeting. Um, so the last
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time they met, it was early last week.
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>> Okay. And um
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>> That's right.
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>> Or the It was since our last visit.
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>> Yeah. because we had a meeting
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>> when we were here and I saw them coming
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in. That's right.
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>> We had all of the con the contract
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meetings in between. So, yes,
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>> we met several times which is throwing
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me off.
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>> Understood.
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>> We're meeting all the time.
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>> That's understood. Um so the two the two
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things from their last meeting um they
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went over um some of the items coming up
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and as far as like projects and
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everything. And so they wanted to have a
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representative from our bond council
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come in to speak to them about
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things that they can do to make sure
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that when we get our audits done that we
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land in a good spot to have a good bond
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rating. And they wanted to understand
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some of the the intricacies of what goes
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into the bond rating process.
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>> Okay.
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>> So they're going to go ahead and
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schedule a meeting with our bond council
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at one of their future meetings.
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>> Okay. And they also um elected to create
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a working group. So um
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Brian O'Reilly and Adam Oman will be
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working on the side updating some of the
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policies to bring that language back to
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the full board um for updating some of
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the the financial policies. I believe
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the first one they're going to work on
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is the um
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the financial fund uh policy or the fund
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balance policy. So, they're going to
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have a working group. They're going to
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meet with bond commission. They're also
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going to call in some other, you know,
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experts to help them make some of these
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decisions
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>> and um hopefully we'll we'll see some
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improvement. And hopefully soon we will
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have a fully staffed finance department.
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>> That would be nice. They're all looking
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forward to that.
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>> Fantastic initiatives.
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>> Absolutely. Lot lot of opportunity
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there.
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>> Thanks, Keith.
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>> All right. So, that brings us to our
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second public comment. There's nobody
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here. Uh, so is there anybody online?
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>> We cleared the house.
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>> Yes.
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>> Yeah.
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>> All right.
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>> So, I think that will take us to an
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executive session. So, we'll have to log
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out of here and come back into adjourn.
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>> Yeah.
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>> All right. So, if we can get
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>> We can.
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» So, uh I move that the town council
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enter executive session at 8:51
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and invite in Donna Lanza, town manager
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and