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[0:16]
Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate the insight into the crash data. That's helpful.
[0:34]
Jennifer McCord again. I'd like to say that the intersection at Keyser Lake has always been,
[0:41]
I mean, as a kid, as an adult, as, you know, now a senior is always bottled my mind trying
[0:47]
to get through there because you're never sure which way anybody's going to go. And I think I would
[0:54]
assume that there's quite a few crashes in there because you do get a lot of summer residents that come
[0:59]
in to enjoy the pond of the lake and, you know, I really see that as a concern and a problem.
[1:06]
And, like I said before, the drainage all through there, two-foot shoulder and some spots
[1:11]
being extremely generous, and usually, you know, the hills come right down to the edge of the road.
[1:18]
There is no ditch line in many, many spots, which causes again water to go across the road and freeze
[1:25]
during the winter. I'm also the President of the Blaser Lake Association and back in 2021 the
[1:38]
culvert closest to Andrew's Ave overtopped and wiped out our ramp. We did an emergency fix on it
[1:47]
and we went to DOT and then on further south there's another culvert that we call sheep dip
[1:55]
that what's happened is that there's no outlet protection, so it's actually created an island out in the lake
[2:02]
because of the turbidity. We went to DOT, talked to them trying to get help and everything else,
[2:09]
and we were told that those culverts weren't on their priority list. So we are now in the process of
[2:16]
trying to get a wetlands permit to finish the boat ramp repairs when we lower the lake in 28. But
[2:22]
But it's kind of disconcerting to do these fixes to spend quite a bit of money, you
[2:28]
know, a person to probably $50,000 in total when we could have another big storm and
[2:35]
it could wipe out our boat ramp again because that covert is undersized.
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And I like how you had the picture of one of the worst places is because that pavement
[2:45]
was never repaired after 21.
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They just left it.
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And years after years after years, they just pave over everything.
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So anything that's happening underneath is just being mirrored right up through and causing more problems.
[3:00]
I'm sure where the woman that was just speaking was talking is it's the same thing.
[3:07]
There's no way of getting the water away.
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you need under drains to get the water out of the subsurface and it's just not
[3:18]
happening. And like I said from New London all the way to 103 it's the same
[3:22]
problem all the way through and it gets worse in Bradford. Thank you. Thank you.
[3:34]
Michael F. again I'm not going to repeat whatever has been said because it's
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under percent. The only thing I'm going to add is north of the Sutton transfer
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when you start going into those S-turns, there's a lot of less visibility because of bamboo, tree saplings, and the state doesn't do anything about that.
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And I feel like when you're coming around that first bend after the transfer station, you can't see anything.
[4:02]
You're going and blinded because of the bamboo because that bamboo just, it's like 7.5 feet tall. It takes the visibility away.
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So I feel like hopefully in your study you can also put invasive species as
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causing less visibility or something like that because those S-turns are
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awful and you cannot see anything until you're right there with it. At least if
[4:24]
that was cut you would see a 20 more foot range I guess. So that's it. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Anybody else have any comments or content for Sutton?
[4:43]
Anything else online?
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We
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did have some support voiced for cross-vox at Keyser Lake, the boat launch, and Blazedale would be helpful, and just a lot of seconding for dealing with the vegetation.
[5:03]
All right, moving on to Bradford and Warner, so these are the locations that we're going
[5:13]
to highlight.
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Again, we're looking at the entire corridor, so if you have comments or concerns anywhere
[5:18]
on 114, through Bradford or Warner, please bring those up as well.
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So this is approaching East Main Street, this is heading north, you can see the two traveling
[5:31]
to go to shoulder on the right. And we do have a sidewalk on the left, but it's clearly in very poor condition.
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And I believe it ends at this intersection as well.
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I know there have been concerns here about safety and pedestrian traffic and the possibility of extending the sidewalk.
[5:47]
The sidewalk has been discussed in the past, so that's something that we'll be looking into as well.
[5:52]
And here's the typical section for that one. You've got the 12 foot northbound and southbound travel lanes,
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two-foot shoulder on the left side, on the right side, five-foot shoulder on the left,
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and then the five-foot sidewalk, the grass buffer with the varies.
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In the photo, I showed it was, obviously, there wasn't really a grass buffer until you get closer to the intersection.
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And then here's the approach to Route 103.
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This is also looking north as well.
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We've got the northbound traveling, and then right turn lane on the right side,
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and the southbound traveling on the left.
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And then this is a signalized intersection as well.
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So here's the typical section for that.
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12 foot traveling, 12 foot rate turn lane,
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a 5 foot shoulder on the right hand side,
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and then a 12 foot shoulder southbound,
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12 foot southbound travel lanes are in 5 foot shoulder
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on the southbound side.
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Next we have Lake Massacicum.
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You can see the lake on the right and the guardrail.
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Two travel lanes.
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Shoulders are a little bit wider here.
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there. Again, I know there have been safety concerns in this area, especially around the
[6:57]
boat launch. There have been concerns with trucks, with boat trailers maneuvering around
[7:02]
the area, parking on the shoulders. There's a curve in the road right there, and we know
[7:06]
that speeds are high in the area. So there have been a lot of safety concerns as a result
[7:10]
of that as well. So here's the typical section here, 12 feet traveling. Again, three foot shoulders
[7:16]
on both sides, the guardrail and the lake on the right, and then the wooded area on the
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left.
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And then this is just the typical section throughout the southern part of Bradford and
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basically all of the myelistic or so stretch through Warner to traveling in either directions
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and kind of wider shoulders in this area. And it's mostly wooded with residences here
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and there. So our typical section for this area, again 12 foot travelings, three foot shoulders
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on either side.
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Then the crash data for Bradford and Warner. You can see, again, spread throughout
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the entire corridor, it's a little bit of a higher crash along the curve, along Lake
[7:58]
Massachusetts, I think around where the boat launches and the curve and the high speeds
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that I mentioned, so that kind of backs up people's concerns about safety in that area.
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And then the pavement condition through Bradford and Warner, a very poor condition on the northern
[8:14]
side, and then it just get better through the southern section of Bradford and Warner.
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Challenging and considerations that we've noticed so far, the pavement condition, especially
[8:26]
especially on the very north section,
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lack of sidewalks and bike accommodations.
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The East Main Street intersection,
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the safety and pedestrian traffic concerns,
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and the desire to possibly extend the sidewalk.
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I get the safety concerns at Lake Massacicum
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that I mentioned, especially centered around the boat launch
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with the high speeds and the horizontal curve,
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and the trucks with trailers maneuvering around
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and using the shoulders for parking.
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And the 114 and 103 intersection,
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There is some bicycle use in that area. Again, high speeds. And there's the potential for traffic comming in that area
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So that's something we'll be looking into as well
[9:04]
Does anybody have any comments or concerns they want to share about
[9:08]
Bradford and Henaker
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Or sorry Bradford and Warner
[9:16]
Brian L fire chief town of Bradford. So I did complete the online survey
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East and West
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East Main Street old Warner Road and Route 114 was one of our area of concern
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That's the major feeder to Kierseige Regional Elementary School at Bradford.
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So it's slow traffic, that corner coming up, going north.
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The visibility and the speed doesn't allow traffic to make it out.
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We've had numerous motor vehicle crashes in that area.
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Plus site distance, there's a fence at one of the houses, so you can't see out to southbound traffic on 114.
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So that's a major concern.
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the next concern that I put in was the intersection of 103 and 114. We've had
[10:02]
numerous crashes there too. Before I get into the crashes, where are you getting
[10:07]
your crash data?
[10:15]
So who's importing that data?
[10:18]
It's Department of Safety, we're coming from as reported by agencies.
[10:23]
Okay, I just was making sure that you know all the motor vehicle accidents
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are making it into kind of see some of those blips on there because we do
[10:33]
cover the entire length of water as well for Bradford. We're first automatic on
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that area so Bradford and Warner we cover because it's a long distance from
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exit 9 over to 114 so we're already there. So back to the 114-103 intersection there's
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As two lights, it go in in both directions.
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In both change green, however, when you have, let's just look at 114.
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You have 114 coming south, turning on known to 103.
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The northbound traffic might be deceived that somebody's turning across and
[11:10]
all the traffic goes around them.
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So we have traffic that goes around turning traffic.
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I have met with Chris Turgen and Mark Avery several times to kind of talk to those folks.
[11:21]
to see about turning lanes there or at least putting a arrow that's flashing yellow for left-hand turns or whatever turns to be able to make it there.
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It's an easy fix to try to let people know use caution to go through there.
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How traffic would run into the broad side of a tractor trailer is beyond me but we had two commercial vehicle accidents at that intersection in a matter of a couple weeks.
[11:49]
So, it happens because the speed through there is pretty excessive.
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I'd probably say one of the things that you might want to show in your display is the speeds along 114.
[12:03]
You know, your crashed data may be emphasized by the speeds that occur.
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So, maybe if it's 30 miles an hour, it's not showing crashes, but it's at 50 plus miles an hour.
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there's sure more crashes there.
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A couple of your pictures show the skid marks.
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That's a good indication of reaction time.
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And you can see the cars are coming into it pretty hot
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and trying to come as cross traffic is crossing those areas.
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Our next area is definitely the boat launch.
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Not only is it a congested area for trailers parking
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which is allowed, but it's traffic that's turning
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withboat traffic. In the speeds through that area is 50 plus miles an hour. In the amount
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of rubber that you see on the road in that area is pretty significant. We've had numerous
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crashes at that intersection, too. And that could be easily mitigated by signage, such
[13:00]
as congested area, head, reduced speed, compact area or something in that area. The next area
[13:07]
that we have concerns, we call it the Warner Bradford S-turns in the area of Daipon.
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We've talked to DOT about chevrons to indicate turns.
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That's why there's white crosses on the sides of the road there because traffic goes straight.
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Because as you're coming down there, it's pretty dark.
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There's no illumination of anything in there.
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If they had chevrons to indicate that there is turns, maybe people would have some reaction
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action time to correct, plus the slope of the road in that area is pitched, which does
[13:42]
bring people to the ditches. And that's kind of a sheltered area for ice and everything
[13:49]
else in that general area. But those are some of our concerns in that area. It's been brought
[13:54]
to DOT over the last three years, similar to some of the other comments before. We've yet
[14:00]
Not to see signs or chevrons come up, you know, I try to always introduce an issue with
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the resolution, and I think sometimes signage is a good preventive to try to indicate
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to people that this should be caution ahead, so.
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But you know, I also, you know, we're looking at 114, but the only two traffic lights in that
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area is 103 in East and West Main Street and 114 in 103. A lot of traffic comes through
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there. The amount of commercial traffic that is rolling up there between log trucks, fuel
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trucks, everything else. My fire station is at the intersection of 103 in East and West
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Main Street and the Jake breaks that come through that area is unbelievable. The speed of the traffic.
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and those commercial vehicles take a long time to come to arrest. So, thank you.
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Thank you.
[15:05]
Jennifer McCord, again, I know you're surprised. Great comments. I agree with all of that. The only thing I would really add is north of Main Street, there are two places where the driveways come down and there are literal springs that come out during the winter and the spring that I have seen multiple many, you know, majority of the time I've lived around here, seeing basically glaciers go across
[15:35]
the road and you know it's it's horrible and I know they tried to fix it once but
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you know they just need to do more. At the boat launch the only other thing I
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could think of for to help is to get a turning lane in there and I'd be really
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curious to see what the new traffic parking layout that they instituted this
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year if that's helped at all because the parking right across from that
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intersection they cut off. So you can only park on the shoulders and away from the boat ramp so
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it gives people more area to be able to turn instead of having trailers in their way. But the
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thing that I did notice is going northbound past the ramp they're now parking where there's guard
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ramp, which for me is very scary because you only have what eight feet there. And I can just see
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that causing problems because everybody wants to be as close as possible to the ramp.
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They don't want to have to walk any farther than they have, even though they're there for
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recreation and to get exercise.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I travel the roads, 114202, quite a bit, half a dozen times a week, doing deliveries.
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And what I can see is the amount of people that have moved to our state in the past three to five years.
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The roadways are incredibly congested.
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You guys put a roundabout here on 202.
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It's made the traffic ten times worse between Hillsboro and Hanukkah.
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It's just bumper to bumper.
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And if you try going 55 miles an hour, you've got people passing you on the right, double solids, I mean, it's not road rage, you know, to the max.
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The towns need more police patrols, you know, which unfortunately they can't spend all their time on the highway.
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but it's just the roundabout time working and I would hate to be on a bicycle on the side
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of half of these roads and you're taking your life and your hands but maybe just wider,
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widening things out in certain places, going from Bradford to Warner, that's an obstacle course
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in the winter time, especially when the roads are slippery.
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From Bradford to Hanukkah, the boat area, yes, that's dangerous because people park right
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next to the highway.
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So you've got no way to go in case of an emergency.
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So I don't know, that's my two cents.
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Thank you.
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I want to thank you guys for giving us the opportunity to come in and talk to you at the beginning of the stage, I appreciate that.
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The question I have is on some of those maps, it says right away varies from 25 feet to 100 feet.
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I guess I'll go direct to the boat landing on 114.
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If the state owns X amount of land, say 100 feet, can we encroach on the people's land even though it's a state's land and create a parking area?
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I didn't know the reason why it varies from 25 to 100 feet.
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Yeah, the reason why it varies is because when we put the cross sections together, we're looking at like a longer stretch of the road than what we're showing here.
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So I'd have to look at specifically what it is right at the boat launch, which I can't remember off the top of my head.
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So the right away kind of does this hourglass figure up the road?
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Yeah, it's probably more like, you know, maybe it's 25 feet for a while, and then it kind of expands out 100 feet for a while.
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Okay.
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It most likely doesn't go in and out a ton, but...
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Oh, I guess if that would be my only...
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potential solution if the state owned a larger portion at the boat area where the boat trail is parked if we could create something there to make get it safer.
[20:06]
Thank you.
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Thank you.
[20:15]
Can I ask a quick question, Michael F.
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And one of your slides, it said something about the 103-114 intersection now go too far.
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Let's see.
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One more.
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One more.
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That one.
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potential for traffic calming. What is that?
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So traffic calming would just be looking at different ways to slow traffic down through the intersection.
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So whether it's changing like the light signals or changing the entire intersection, right?
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Yeah. I was just curious. Thank you.
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Yeah.
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Anybody else have any comments and concerns or questions for Bradford or Warner?
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Oh, sorry.
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It just came the mind to keep on the recreational and just also to bring back
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the fact that we had a pretty serious snow machine accident in Bradford right by the
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bus company.
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So, in addition to traffic, in addition to residents, there's a lot of recreational
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trails that do cross many of that corridor up and down from Hennecker all the way up
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through, you know, Sutton's snow machine traffic, ATV traffic, so it's also some consideration
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to take into effect multi-recreational.
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So that happened to be, that snom machine accident happened
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to be in a kind of a high-speed area
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with a machine across the road.
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So there is additional uses out there
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besides commercial and regular civilian traffic.
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Thank you.
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And so next up we have Hennecker.
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So these are the locations that we're looking at in Hennecker.
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And again, please comment on anywhere through an indicator that you have concerns.
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So first up, we have the intersection with Route 202.
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Let's see.
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So this is looking north towards Route 202.
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We've got the travel lanes and then the right-hand slip lane onto 202 east
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and the grass median.
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And this is our typical section for this one.
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In the 12 foot North Bend and South Bend travel lanes, we're also showing the 202 eastbound
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on ramp here, which is 10 feet, it's a little bit difficult to show in this section.
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And then the shoulder on the right side varies 2 to 8 feet and left side, we're going to
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8 foot shoulder.
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And the median varies from 2 to 14 feet.
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And again, this kind of varies so much because we're going, like, the dimensions are represented
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ended up the full intersection through 202,
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so not just the photo that I showed.
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Next we have Maple Street north of the Contaco River.
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So this is kind of a more residential stretch
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in between Route 202 and Main Street.
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So we've got the two travel lanes, shoulders,
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and then we do a sidewalk on the left-hand side.
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And this our typical section for this one,
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12-foot travel lanes, two-foot shoulder on the right side,
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and a three-foot shoulder on the left.
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And then we have the five foot sidewalk on the left hand side which is kind of great separated a little bit and say it's higher than the roadway here.
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And next we have the intersection with Main Street and Western Ave in Hanukkah.
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So we've got, so this is looking northbound approaching Main Street and Western Ave, Main Street over to the right and Western Ave to the left.
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This is kind of more of a downtown area so there are more walkable destinations here, restaurants, pharmacy, the library.
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and the New England College is just to the south.
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And then there's a little break in the sidewalk network here on the left-hand side of the
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photo where the driveway and the parking area for that pharmacy is.
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And I know there have been some concerns with pedestrian safety at this intersection, so
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that's something that we're looking at.
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And this is our section here.
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So we've got a 12-foot southbound traveling, eight-foot shoulder, and the five-foot sidewalk
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on that side.
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Again, there was kind of a break in the sidewalk network in the photo, so that's why we didn't
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see a sidewalk there. On the right hand side we've got the 12 foot northbound
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travel lane and a 12 foot on ramp or slip lane turning lane for main, that should
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say Main Street, and then we do a street parking here too, and I think
[24:54]
believe people are parking on the shoulder on the southbound side as well. And then
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this is kind of, I feel like highlights how open it looks on the right hand side.
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There's not really any lane markings, but there's kind of three different uses
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is there.
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I'm going a little bit further south. This is the northern end of New England
[25:14]
College. You're looking north towards the intersection we were just at. The dining
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hall is on the left here and then there's one of the academic buildings on the right.
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So we've got two travel lanes here. Shoulders and we have a sidewalk on the left hand side
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and then you can kind of see the crosswalk up ahead and the sidewalk on the right hand side
[25:31]
starts right at that crosswalk. And we definitely saw a lot of pedestrian traffic in this area
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when we were out doing our site visit last year.
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And then this is the typical section for this one.
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So we've got 12 foot travel lanes on both sides,
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five foot sidewalk on the left hand side,
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three foot shoulders on both sides,
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and then the sidewalk on the right that starts
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just after that crosswalk.
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And then this is just a block or two south
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against still at New England College,
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just a little bit of a different cross section here
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where we don't have the sidewalk on the left hand side.
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there is like a gravel area for them to walk but it's at street level so not
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necessarily as safe as a separated sidewalk and that's the library right there
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on the left and an art building on the right and there is you can see in the
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typical section there is kind of a sidewalk in front of the art building but it's
[26:25]
hard to show through this program how it actually functions it's kind of more
[26:30]
like curves right in front of the building and then there's a stairway and so
[26:34]
So the sidewalk kind of stops at the stairway and then it starts again in front of the other
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two buildings.
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So not necessarily usable for everyone.
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And again, the sidewalk on the left hand side is that street level, it's gravel, but
[26:47]
we did see quite a few pedestrians utilizing that when we were out there.
[26:53]
Next we've got Flanders Road and Elm Street, so this is the route to Pat's Peaks area.
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This one is looking south and that's Flanders Road and Pat's Peak over to the right.
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As you can see on this one, again, 12 foot travel lanes, the shoulder varies between one feet and 10 feet.
[27:15]
And again, that's because we're looking at a longer stretch here.
[27:19]
So you can see over here the shoulder width on the right hand side is probably closer to the 10 feet.
[27:25]
Maybe more like six or seven. The shoulder on the left hand side is probably closer to two or three feet.
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Right,
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and here's the crash data for Hennecker, kind of lower than some of the other towns,
[27:37]
but still spread throughout the corridor a little bit.
[27:41]
And again, just because this doesn't show as many crashes as the other towns, it doesn't
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mean we're not going to consider safety and look at potential crashes in this area.
[27:54]
And one thing I forgot to mention that I think at the beginning is the crash data we have
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is from 2017 to 2023.
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And then the pavement conditions for Hennecker, mostly good, except for that stretch around New
[28:07]
England College and the Main Street intersection, which is in poor condition.
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And then some challenges and considerations that we've noticed in Hennecker, pedestrian
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facilities.
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There are some gaps in the sidewalk networks.
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There are safety concerns that some of the crossings, a lack of bike accommodations.
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The intersection with Main Street and Western Ave in 114, there have been safety concerns there, especially related to pedestrian crossings, and again, there's the potential for historic districts and buildings and landmarks here.
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So to have any comments, questions, concerns they want to share for Hennecker?
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Good evening. I'm Richard Dreyer, live in Hennecker.
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I have a couple of general comments.
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The section from New London down to 103 on 114, I do not drive that road unless I absolutely
[29:04]
have to, because it's very narrow shoulders in my opinion is very dangerous.
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Secondly from one, I don't know if it's Hennecker or Bradford, but the southbound side of 114,
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the pavement's coming up in a long stretch that wasn't it was paved not too
[29:25]
long ago and it's coming apart and I think it needs some attention. The biggest
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concern we have is we live I live right on 114 in the 30 mile per hour zone. The
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traffic does not go 30 miles an hour there. I believe you need more signage on both
[29:45]
sides of the street. I believe you need much more police patrol in that section. I mean,
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I think that Hennecker could eliminate any tax raises if they just had an officer
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are stationed on both sides of one-four-
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All day long. And they would write tickets all day long. Every log truck that goes by my house is not going 30 miles an hour. Many times, the people on 114 headed towards 202, they're accelerating all the way from the center of town all the way up that hill. They're probably going 50 by the time they get to 202. So that, to me, is the number one issue with 114 is the
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the speed in the in the village of Hennaker.
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Thank you.
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Jerry Gilbert, on your slide for the bridge,
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if you could get back to the over 202, the overpass.
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There you go.
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There is a large amount of people
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that walk Davis and Road, which is above the mobile,
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that you can't quite see there.
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down Liberty, back Western Ave, back up 114. The sidewalk ends at post office place.
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There's no sidewalk on the right near a country spirit on the left near the post office.
[31:21]
Then you have sidewalks on the bridge, then again no sidewalks.
[31:25]
There needs to be a sidewalk, at least to Davison Road, on the west side and a sidewalk on the east side, at least to the Harvester driveway or just beyond it to the Dollar General.
[31:43]
A lot of the students walk this and walk to Dollar General to do some grocery shopping.
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it's been a problem since the day they put that in and put the bypass or it needs
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to be addressed. Down 114, we're doing this, the Chairman for the
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Coswell Spring Water Works. We're doing potholing, what's called potholing.
[32:13]
We're looking for lead goose necks. We've got a grant from the government to do
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this as everybody's trying to do. We just hit a section of 114 just by the
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academy what's called the old academy. The asphalt was 21 inches thick. We had
[32:33]
to bring in a bigger machine just to get through the asphalt just a heads up.
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This is what you're going to be finding. And then you get further north and you
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got the asphalt that's just peeling up as we were just old. So there's a lot of
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Asphalt issues down through along they tried to fix the drainage some years ago
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I'm gonna go back a little bit further. You had mentioned
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Guile pond road. I'm just real curious. Did you do any kind of is there any kind of traffic study?
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on 114 and
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Guile pond road and
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I don't know what the name of the road is it goes in front of the firehouse in Sutton
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to determine how much traffic you're losing at Gile Pond or it'll gaining and
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The same with the truck traffic that it's supposed to go around
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Gile Pond road and come up across by the firehouse
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That is also if you keep mentioning the high school and the middle school that are there
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The real problem is exit 10 and I will tell you I
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Use it all the time because it's faster
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I'll take my camper up there, and it's safer than going to, so there's a lot of traffic
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that you use and go upon, that's just in reference.
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Back down to Pat's Peak, that intersection, they're now building, I believe it's an apartment
[34:00]
building,
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duplex.
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Right on the corner, which is going to make that intersection a lot worse, that road should
[34:11]
have turn lanes, both directions and slow traffic down.
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One other thing, the sidewalk you were mentioning that's elevated in front of New England
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College on the east side by the library, that is New England College's sidewalk that's
[34:31]
private.
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Okay.
[34:32]
They built that, it's got nothing to do with you guys.
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Yeah.
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Officer Rachel Looko, the Hanukkah Police Department, I would concur with the sidewalks going
[34:47]
up through that intersection, all the way up, we do have pedestrian traffic.
[34:51]
Oh, yep, okay.
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So I would also agree with the sidewalks as the police department, we would recommend
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sidewalks up to the businesses, up to Davidson Road.
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We do have college students along with the public that walk up through that intersection,
[35:07]
but also extending sidewalks down past through the college.
[35:11]
we do have a college population that saves out very late.
[35:15]
Poor lighting through that college section
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is a concern for our pedestrians,
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along with the speed on Bridge Street and Maple Street.
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We would recommend it going down to 25.
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We know that there's road rage and other things,
[35:29]
but with speed dropping,
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hopefully it could get our residents
[35:32]
to slow the rest of the traffic down.
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We could get out there and enforce it as well.
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I'm trying to think.
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and the accident data. Thank you. I was like, I knew there was something else.
[35:43]
In regards to the accident data, I will say in the last three weeks I've responded to
[35:48]
a major accident at that intersection exactly. And then the four-way at one-fourteen
[35:56]
at the pharmacy, I've probably had at least three major accidents this year alone.
[36:03]
So, the actions are occurring, it looks a little more frequently than the data does show that for way intersection along with this intersection are two major accident issues that the PDS is seeing.
[36:18]
Thank you.
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Thank you.
[36:19]
Hi,
[36:25]
Michelle McMurphy.
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I'm glad you pointed out the pedestrian traffic at the four corners of the Main Street,
[36:33]
Western Ave at 114.
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I walk that every day that school is in session.
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There are many times that I stand and wait and wait for traffic to notice that I would like to cross.
[36:46]
Other times one lane will stop for me.
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I walk halfway out and I still have to watch because I'm not guaranteed.
[36:54]
that the oncoming traffic would actually see me.
[36:58]
I wish there was more of a way to alert drivers
[37:03]
that there are people in that crosswalk at that time.
[37:06]
I know there is a crosswalk light system
[37:10]
by the post office.
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The pedestrian pushes the button, the lights flash,
[37:14]
and traffic knows that there's someone waiting.
[37:17]
That's one thing that I would like to see happen in that area.
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And thank you for being here.
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Thank you.
[37:29]
Hi, my name is Mark McMurray, I'm Michelle's husband, and we live in the metro Hanukkah area
[37:37]
right over there, and so we're constantly walking downtown, and I agree with Michelle
[37:44]
on the flashing light that would catch people's attention, but what I notice a lot at that
[37:49]
same intersection is people are confused, drivers are confused at that intersection, I see
[37:57]
a lot where a driver heading south, for example, doesn't know if they have a stop sign or what
[38:04]
the story is. It's a lot of time somebody from out of state or maybe not local, so that's just
[38:10]
something to consider. Another thing is the at night, especially if it's raining. It's very hard
[38:20]
to see if you're a driver, especially as you go across the stone arch bridge, there's another cross
[38:26]
walk there for NEC and I know that our town is looking at our street lights and we have
[38:37]
nice lamps if there's anything a part of your plan or funding we maybe can update
[38:46]
those lights so they're a little bit brighter.
[38:49]
The next thing that I want to point out is across from where Flanders Road comes out just
[38:56]
after the college and Ramstell Road, where those meet.
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There are a lot of people, I'm not exactly sure
[39:03]
how much time they're saving, probably not a lot,
[39:06]
but they'll choose to cut the downtown off
[39:09]
and go that way, and then go up Flanders Road to Pat's Peak.
[39:12]
So that becomes an intersection that might be something
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to think about.
[39:20]
And then finally, so many of us are friends
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because of the transfer station.
[39:24]
We all see each other there on Saturdays, but that particular intersection or it's not really an intersection
[39:30]
But where you turn off to go to the transfer station can get backed up and people start passing and so that could be dangerous and
[39:39]
lastly the traffic
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accident data
[39:44]
That is an accident that has occurred. I wish there was a close call monitor
[39:50]
because that would be going off like crazy downtown at that intersection.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Hi folks.
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My name is Grace Cohen.
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I am a long time Hennaker resident, not an hamster native, but I've been here since 1969.
[40:12]
And I have seen many, many changes to route 114 over the years.
[40:18]
Most of them have been really good.
[40:19]
But I've also seen the growth of the traffic in our town and in our state and everybody
[40:32]
knows that.
[40:33]
That's nothing new at this point.
[40:35]
However, I think one of the biggest issues that our whole town has to deal with in frustration
[40:42]
is speed and distracted drivers.
[40:45]
and it's especially difficult when you look and you're showing us these nice pictures,
[40:52]
but you're missing the big picture here in our town.
[40:56]
From when you first hit the 35 mile an hour speed sign coming into Hennecker from Bradford.
[41:05]
The first thing you come to is a dollar general store, then the Hennecker feeds and needs,
[41:10]
then Harvester Grocery Store and the Farm Stand and Bacon Road which is going to be the location
[41:17]
of our new police station. Then we have the mobile gas station. We have off-road highway vehicles
[41:25]
crossing the road there. I don't know if it's legal or not. I'm not sure. We have the entrance
[41:31]
of Hennecker Crush Stone and Pat Noed Lumber Company. I'm not sure who did what, but there is now
[41:38]
a second entrance for those businesses and many residents, including myself,
[41:44]
grateful to use that cut-through from Rush Road as a shortcut so we don't have
[41:50]
to go all the way into town. Then we have the crossings for Route 202-9 on the
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north side of the bridge and then the intersections again on the south side of the
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bridge and all of this is in close proximity but wait I'm not done. We then have
[42:06]
the Post Office and the New Dental Office at Post Office Place.
[42:11]
We have the Shopping Center, which is a country spirit restaurant, Edmund's hardware store,
[42:17]
the veterinary center, and the bank.
[42:20]
Then we have a crumbling, overgrown sidewalk that takes us a short walk down to the fire station
[42:28]
and police station, fire station and rescue squad.
[42:31]
And that's all in less than a mile.
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And we have local folks, but we also have people who are only coming through once.
[42:40]
They are totally unfamiliar with the area and they are all sorts of issues.
[42:45]
I am a pedestrian and a driver and I see every time I'm out near missus and I'm not exaggerating
[42:52]
here.
[42:53]
And there's another issue at the intersection of post office place and the Route 114 here.
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And I'm going to show you on your map because as you are diving in the dark, north bound on 114,
[43:10]
and you want to turn into the post office place to maybe drop the letter off in the mailbox,
[43:16]
It's pitch black right there.
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But right above it, there are lights.
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I keep it coming out in your hand.
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There is the light that the state put up for Route 114.
[43:31]
And I think they assume that putting it in front of the post office
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was a good idea.
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But that's not what the intersection is.
[43:38]
But from the back off to the...
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Which one?
[43:41]
The previous one.
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Oh, yeah, sorry.
[43:46]
So the right fold for the post office is right out there
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in the middle of all these trees that we're not here
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when it happens in small.
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So in a way that's true.
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Any time I'm going to honor to read that,
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you have no idea whatsoever to move it all around in small.
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And here, if you want a staff meeting
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And I have a hard time finding the intersection when I'm trying to turn into the post office
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at night.
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Am I the only one?
[44:25]
Or maybe somebody else?
[44:27]
Thank you.
[44:28]
So those are some of the issues just in that very short section and I really encourage all
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of you before you make any recommendations or any design drawings to really take a drive
[44:44]
through there very slowly if you can because somebody is going to come right up behind
[44:48]
you going fast. But take a look at how many entrances and exits there are for traffic in
[44:54]
that short stretch of area. I sometimes have to wait to make a
[45:00]
A turn on to 1-14 minutes and I've actually timed over five minutes waiting and I've even turned right and gone north and then turned into the dollar store so I could come south into town. So that's a big traffic issue with a whole lot of congestion. Downtown, our police officer was being kind.
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I mean, I have an office in the center of town, and I overlook the intersection of Main Street and 114.
[45:37]
And there isn't a time when I'm in my office that I don't at least hear a close call, skids or whatever.
[45:44]
If I look out my window, almost nobody comes to a full and complete stop at the intersection going east or west.
[45:53]
Now, when I learned to driving up my New Hampshire license, in the laws, it said the driver
[46:03]
must come to a full and complete stop at a stop sign.
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Maybe that's been struck from the manual, I don't know.
[46:10]
But when I'm coming south into town, from Maple Street, coming down 114, I come into that
[46:19]
intersection at between 10 and 15 miles an hour because invariably somebody is
[46:26]
going to be making a wide turn into my South Island. So I please also sit there
[46:34]
and look at that intersection, have some people video it or whatever you want to
[46:39]
do but spend some time investigating what's going on there. It's marked, there are
[46:45]
stop signs. People are not stopping and there's so many accidents and there's a lot of
[46:52]
little fender benders that probably aren't even getting reported, but it is a big deal.
[46:58]
And then our crosswalks. Thank you for the one that finally got up at the post office.
[47:05]
We need more of those. The very next sidewalk down the road from there is where the crosswalk
[47:13]
is where the sidewalk comes north on 114, on the left hand side of the road, on the west side.
[47:24]
And then for no apparent reason other than there's no room to continue it, it crosses over.
[47:31]
But there are big trees and other driveways and things coming in and out there.
[47:36]
It's hard for the pedestrians to look both ways if they're on the east side trying to cross.
[47:43]
And if you are a driver, you often do not see the pedestrians trying across.
[47:48]
And if you do, you may have little time to stop for somebody who is legally in the crosswalk and you're supposed to stop.
[47:56]
So there's another place. Please take a look at that.
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Sit there and watch for a little while or try to cross yourself a few times.
[48:04]
It's really, somebody's going to get killed there.
[48:08]
So, the same thing with the crosswalks at New England College, when you just cross the bridge,
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there's a little bit of a curve.
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Locally, we know it's there, we know students may be, you know, with the headphones on and
[48:22]
looking at their phones, walking out into the street.
[48:25]
But people who aren't from our town aren't aware of this.
[48:29]
And again, there have been some incidents there and somebody is going to get killed.
[48:35]
They need probably knowing the students, they need the ones that are triggered by movement,
[48:40]
not where they stop and push the button for safety.
[48:44]
But please, please, take a look at those crosswalks all through the college and downtown and
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coming up Maple Street 114.
[48:57]
And finally, the transfer station and River Road, thank you for bringing that up.
[49:03]
They're very close together, that's a 55 mile an hour zone, river road comes up very quickly.
[49:10]
If you don't know it's there, you're going to go right by it or just about go by it and
[49:14]
stop on your brakes to make the turn.
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And because the transfer station is on a curve, again, if you have a load of junk in your truck
[49:25]
or your car or whatever, and you're coming up and you've got your blinker on, if somebody
[49:29]
is in paying attention, going 55 or more like 60 or 65 miles an hour, there's going to
[49:36]
be another problem there.
[49:37]
So thank you for listening, please, I'm happy to give you my list if you want, but thank
[49:43]
you for listening and please, please spend some time here and take a look before you just
[49:51]
go on the pictures.
[49:53]
Thank you.
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My name is Ron Hess. I live at Prospect and 114 downtown and I have to agree with everybody. I promise not to talk too long myself, but I've got my list, but where I live, they have a double crosswalk sign and I can't tell you how many times a day, especially during the school time, the nobody stops there.
[50:27]
We've had two deaths and I kind of disagree with your data since I've lived there.
[50:33]
I've had two deaths in front of my house, one with a motorcycle, one with two cars head
[50:39]
on in my driveway.
[50:41]
In winter time, our traffic gets on the weekends and the night time because of the ski and
[50:48]
at Pat's Peak.
[50:49]
We have increased traffic through downtown.
[50:53]
We've got the visitors coming in.
[50:55]
They're not aware of all these things that the people talk about, but they're looking
[51:00]
at, you know, I'm the bad guy with all the Christmas lights on the town at Christmas
[51:05]
time. They're going to look at it my lights and they're not seeing that on prospect, that's
[51:11]
a main avenue down to Rush Road where people live down there.
[51:17]
And so we've got people waiting to turn there and they get rear-ended.
[51:23]
Most of them are not serious, but we have had a Jeep that got T-boneed, and luckily there was no death in that one, but we have a problem with the speed on 114, there's no doubt.
[51:38]
The motorcyclist was in excess of 70 miles an hour in front of our house, and I can't explain we have kids that we have to stop the traffic because they won't stop for them.
[51:53]
I'll just kind of leave it at that because everybody else has got the same complaint.
[51:58]
But 114 is very, very dangerous.
[52:01]
And we're going to lose kids when we got semi's coming down 114 doing 50 plus.
[52:08]
I followed them in my car and I had to do 50 to get behind them.
[52:13]
And they did not slow down.
[52:15]
One I ought to go down.
[52:16]
So excuse me, I'm losing my voice here.
[52:19]
But the traffic is too heavy for 114 through with the semi's, the logging trucks.
[52:27]
I've had the logging trucks take out the stop sign at prospect and 114 three times.
[52:34]
I've had to crosswalk taken out a couple of times.
[52:38]
I've had cars that ended up in my yard because they had to slam on the brakes and they came into the yard.
[52:45]
That's not 30 miles an hour through that place.
[52:50]
So I really recommend you guys do a traffic check going down.
[52:54]
Our police are tied to enforce the speed all the time.
[53:01]
Matter of fact, my wife and I, we chuck off on weekends how many times they stop a driver
[53:07]
with the lights and it works, but they can't be there 24-7.
[53:13]
But the trucks and the trailers are, you've got big loading equipment.
[53:19]
The other day came through, Hennecker.
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And even the load was about two feet off of the trailer on both sides.
[53:27]
And they were not going 30 miles an hour, up 114.
[53:31]
So I'll just leave it with that.
[53:33]
My main concern is that we're going to lose children on that road one of these days.
[53:38]
Thank you.
[53:53]
I'm going to take it all the way back to Bradford where our friend, the Fire Chief of Bradford Fire Department, was talking about safety.
[54:09]
And I believe that if you were to just do a quick root cause analysis here of kind of what everyone is collectively saying,
[54:14]
Safety is the utmost concern, and I believe that the problem with these safety concerns start from all the way up that road.
[54:26]
And it is a systemic issue that continues to gain momentum, pun intended, as it reaches through and enters through our little village.
[54:38]
and it is 100% consistent every single resident from every town that is represented here tonight, I can honestly say being a resident on that road, witnessing so many things, it is 100% factual.
[54:53]
I have a question, your traffic study for Hennecker where you gathered all your data, what time of year was that done, was that performed?
[55:02]
I know you said you have your crash data from one year, from 17 to 23, I believe.
[55:07]
2017 to 2023.
[55:09]
And then your studies on congestion and utilization of the road and all of that, when was that?
[55:15]
What time of the year was that done?
[55:17]
We haven't done like studies or accounts on that.
[55:21]
It's possible that we will do counts at intersections as part of this project that hasn't been decided where.
[55:29]
So, if I could suggest that you conduct these studies during the school year, okay, obviously.
[55:38]
Like Michelle McMurray was saying, she crosses that street every day.
[55:41]
I myself cross that street every day, one of my client's station, Schrock, who is a member
[55:47]
of the school board for Hennaker Community School.
[55:49]
We all say the same thing when it comes to indication of pedestrian traffic in the center
[55:56]
of town.
[55:57]
Flashing light system, speaking of which we had a flashing light system up on top of 114 by the post office.
[56:04]
It was decommissioned when the new dentist office went in.
[56:06]
I'm not going to, I'm not here to argue how that was decommissioned, why, who's responsible when it's going back up.
[56:11]
But I hope to see it recommissioned again soon.
[56:14]
There's no reason why it needs to be down this long, so but that's for another meeting perhaps.
[56:18]
But what I do have to say is the congestion, the traffic, the commercial traffic through
[56:29]
Hennecker.
[56:29]
We've only been Hennecker residents for seven years, but I have to say that in those
[56:34]
seven years, the commercial traffic through Hennecker has grown exponentially,
[56:48]
Jake
[56:48]
They are not going 35 miles an hour as it is posted.
[56:54]
And from that side of the road,
[56:56]
you may not think the grade is that steep.
[56:58]
But I'll tell you what,
[56:59]
coming down with a full load with a semi,
[57:02]
you'll pick up speed very quickly.
[57:05]
Going up,
[57:08]
chatting with one of the police officers a few months ago,
[57:10]
he said he actually clocked someone
[57:12]
and gave them a ticket and actually revoked their license.
[57:15]
They clocked this person going 92 miles an hour
[57:19]
on 114 in front of my house 92 miles an hour now our fine policemen are doing a
[57:26]
great job with the resources that they have but we are a small village and we
[57:32]
plead with this panel and the state to give us additional resources to protect
[57:37]
our town regulate traffic I'm very happy that we have a corridor such as 114
[57:45]
that brings economic stimulus to our town okay we can't dispute that we
[57:50]
We can't dismiss that, that is part of the facts, that is a factor in this equation.
[57:56]
But that does not dismiss the fact that further analysis is needed to regulate and to try
[58:02]
to mitigate some of these very valid concerns.
[58:06]
And I just want to tell you, I appreciate you guys giving us the opportunity creating this
[58:11]
forum to do such, because I tell you what, we've been waiting for something like this for
[58:17]
long time. And I really hope that our concerns are heard tonight. They're taken into consideration
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and valid studies with proper root cause analysis and viable solutions are actually generated.
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Like someone said earlier about paving. The same thing happens over and over. It's a past job,
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past job, bandaid, bandaid, bandaid. A few years ago, 114 from just about the front,
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the center of town going north, both northbound and southbound lanes were repaved.
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going all the way up in front of my home, all the way up to the two overpass.
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Once that was done, of course, all of us drive 114, notice that, of course, the manhole
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covers and the grates are, of course, different levels and all of that, and we deal with that.
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But one of the more major concerns is that the grade of the road now is significantly higher
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than that of the grade of the berm.
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Now, the berm, which is on my side of the road, is lower in some areas by a foot.
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I measured it because in the winter time and during heavy storm seasons, the amount
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of erosion that runs from the top of 114 by the post office, it continues to flow down
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in front of my home and go all the way down to the center of town.
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And when debris from fallen leaves, hard pack that has been eroded by all this rushing water,
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fills our drains, guess what happens to the water?
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It enters the road, right?
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It causes ponding, pooling.
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It's very difficult to navigate all of that.
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So again, I was very thankful to see my tax dollars at work,
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getting that road
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Paved, very, very nice and smooth, but consideration was not taken into what was happening on the
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literal edges of that road, and how that new paving affected water flow and movement.
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So in conclusion, thank you again and appreciate your time. And one last thing,
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I do want to
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I just want to say that having witnessed quite a few accidents on this road, I do want to say and I'm not saying this as a dig, but your crash data is outdated.
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It is insufficient and it doesn't use study needs to be done.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Brian Alphair, Chief Bradford, so he just stole my thunder because if you're using the 2017
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to 23. What happened during that time, COVID, right?
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So there wasn't a lot of traffic as much as it is today.
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So I've been fire chief up there since 22.
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And I can tell you the increase in traffic
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and increase of motor vehicle crashes
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is pretty significant since 22.
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So I think if you base your plan on pretty much outdated data,
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it's not going to justify some of the improvements
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that may be some of the folks here are talking about.
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If we can cycle back to that wonderful 114-202 intersection.
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Yeah.
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I was surprised somebody didn't mention this.
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So when you come off Westbound on 202-9 to 114,
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you pull up to the stop sign.
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If you want to go right towards Bradford,
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you can't see South on 114 due to some sort of structure
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that's in the way.
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Is some sort of board.
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I don't know if it's the meters for your street lighting.
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No, it's for a heating table.
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So it kind of obstructs your visual for it.
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So you end up hedging out into the road a little bit further
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and then if there's cars that are going south and you're going north,
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you're trying to hedge out a little bit further.
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So it kind of makes it interesting there a little bit.
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So if you're going to look at maybe what's going on within your right away,
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maybe restrictions on certain items that are in your right
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away for visibility at major intersections. And then I just wanted to jump back on, you know,
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a lot of the pitches that you showed in the compact area of Hennecker. You know, it's a lot of
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residents, you know, so they have not as much vegetation as much as the rural roads do. So there's not,
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it hasn't been a lot of vegetation management going northbound from Hennecker all the way up through.
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so there's excessive trees and you look at the size of them that are incorporated into your
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guardrail. A couple more years you're probably going to be able to harvest lumber out of them
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and that branches are sticking out you know 103 coming from 89 over to 114 is just as bad you hit
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all that bamboo as you go by but so I think vegetation management gives you sight distance coming
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out of driveways coming out of roadways and everything else so I think a little bit of vegetation
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management. And the last thing I want to mention is once you go further north, speaking for Bradford,
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speaking for Sutton, we're a lot of rural residential communities, so you're looking at call of volunteer
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departments, who are the responders to these motor vehicle crashes, so we don't have full-time staff to enter there.
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So there's volunteers who come back, who spend time to respond out to them.
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Sometimes there's a duration to get to some of these.
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Like I said, we cover all the way down.
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We jokingly call basically from Hennecker all the way up to Bradford, the Brad Warnaker,
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because it's Bradford Warner Hennecker and it's kind of in the midst of Hennecker
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and Bradford covered most of that area all the way up to the Sutton Line.
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So thank you.
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Hi,
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Jennifer McCordigan. The Northern area where we're losing the pavement, that has been a problem
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forever because it doesn't get any sun during the winter.
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It's icy. Even with a good drainage
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that is there, plus you do have Amy Brook that goes down through there that adds to the moisture
[1:04:56]
to create the ice. So that is a really big concern. I realize it's COVID data, but if you look at
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the accident data for Sutton Bradford and Hennecker. And then you look at the police force. Sutton has
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three full-time Bradford has four. Hennecker has up to nine with the chief, which that includes
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the chief in both of those other towns. Right now we have eight.
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You know the incident data looks
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less here, but I agree with everybody what they've said, the amount of truck traffic that
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comes off of 202.09 that goes down into where is crazy. And for me, that's the biggest
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concern. I know we can't stop it. It's economics and that's the way they have to go, but trying
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to figure out traffic calming ways to get them to slow down and respect our town is something
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that we really need to look into. I know that there was a big push to stop traffic from going
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through River Road to Pat's Peak. So now it comes a lot of it comes up through town whether it goes
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ramps that rode or 114. So that's added to the traffic pressures also. I know people say we should
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put more signs but being a retired engineer after 42 years I can tell you that signs are just
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suggestions. The only thing that I've ever seen do any good is the flashing crossing signs to tell
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people that yes there are people. Especially through Hennecker where you have places where people
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across, like they said, down across from the cafeteria for NEC.
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We all know it's there.
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We all know to slow down there.
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I get people on their horns telling me to go faster down through there.
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And I'm like, no, because any minute there could be a kid.
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I know NEC, during their, when kids first come in, they tell them to be really careful.
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And, you know, we're bright clothing if they're out at night because people can't see because there's not enough lighting through town.
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If they're wearing dark clothing, forget it. It's so hard to see them.
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So there was something else.
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Yeah, and I would just absolutely reinforce that there needs to be a traffic study.
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I know you're talking about not doing it, but I think it's imperative so that you can get the empirical data
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to make informed, awesome decisions and choices instead of just listening to us because it's hard.
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But if you have the empirical data then you can make intelligent decisions and help us out throughout the entire quarter.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Hi
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folks, listening to everybody's comments made me realize that one of the big issues
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that we have here besides people going too fast and things like that is visibility.
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The accidents that we have on all directions of people entering and exiting 2029 from 114,
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many of those issues I think are visibility issues and I know that many people
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just plain don't stop so that makes the visibility a bigger issue but I know
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that I have to pull way out beyond where the stop sign is so I can see around the
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abutments of the bridge on the west side to see if any southbound traffic is
[1:09:10]
coming before I pull out and try to go north on 114 and there was just a major accident
[1:09:18]
two cars were totaled from somebody coming from the east and getting off on 114 and
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there's a terrible accident there this kid marks are still there but yeah that is huge
[1:09:34]
issue. So, when you're doing your design work, perhaps actually visit the area and see
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what kind of visibility issues exist currently and maybe how some of them can be mitigated
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when you work your new designs. And I would also say that the flashing sidewalk sign is actually
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back in existence. It just recently went up and you folks did not take it down. It had
[1:10:05]
nothing to do with the dental office. It was a woman driving a light blue car who I
[1:10:12]
don't know how she did it because I came along just as she was opening her car door. But
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she had gone off the road totally missed the intersection for the post office and gone
[1:10:26]
on straight. She did a head on into that sidewalk sign. So it's been down for, I want
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to say two years and maybe you folks were waiting to replace it until all the dental office
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electric stuff got set up. I don't know. But thank you for setting it up. I just noticed
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it the other day and my sister was with me. I stopped the car and asked her to jump out
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and push the button and see if it worked.
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And it works, so please use it.
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But please put more in.
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They are going to save lives.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Hi, my name is Sandy Murray.
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I live on 114 at the corner of Prospect and 114.
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I've lived in that spot six years.
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I've gone out within two minutes of two accidents,
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both involving motorcycles. The first one, the motorcyclist was just making a
[1:11:33]
left-hand turn on to 114 and the car just did not see the motorcyclist. He
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lived. The second accident was one described where he was going about 75
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miles per hour. A poor 18-year-old was just, he stopped at the stop sign, he was
[1:11:51]
going to go across motorcycle hit him. It both landed in my flower garden too. The boy is going to
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have to live with that death for the rest of his life. I walk across that crosswalk every
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well a couple times two to three times a week going to Ma Zhong and events in town. No one ever stops.
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across the street. It's terrible. So, I agree with the woman who was just before me.
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Can we have a flashing light there? That might help a little bit.
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The other thing I noticed, people were talking about the school, but are you aware that the
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school is one block away from Main Street and 114? I know there are some signs that can go
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up by school zones that if school is in section, you have to go 10 miles per hour less.
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So I'm not sure if that is a possibility.
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But it's just too fast through that main intersection of town.
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And I will not drive through that intersection.
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If I'm at the library, I'll turn around, I'll go back and come up and go through another
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section.
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It is so dangerous.
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One of the problems in that intersection is that at the pharmacy, even though it has signs,
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don't park in front of here unless your normal size car or I'm not sure what it says.
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But anyway, there's always trucks there. How are you supposed to see around a truck
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and make a right hand turn? You can't. So I don't know if there's any possibility of taking out.
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I'm sure they wouldn't be happy if you took out the parking, but that makes it very dangerous.
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Third thing, there was a little talk about the sidewalk.
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How can you have a sidewalk that's always on one side of the street?
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And then all of a sudden in the middle of the road, you just have to go across to the other side by the firehouse.
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Why can't we have a sidewalk all the way up on the west and all the way down?
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That's very dangerous to try and cross in the middle,
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and last but not least, is there
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a reason why there can't be a light?
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I was told, oh, you'll have to have a certain number of deaths before you can have a light.
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Why can't we have a traffic light on one-fourteen and mainstream?
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I know there's traffic lights when I go down one-fourteen to go down to Manchester.
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there's a couple of them along there that would slow traffic down because if
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there's a light there they'd have to be slower going through up to that
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light.
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Thank you very much and I'm glad that you're at least looking into our
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street. Thank you.
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I'm going to wear my bus hat first. I agree 100% that if you guys look into this further, please do it during the school season. We have two buses that cross 114. And then we have two buses that have to go north on 114. And that can be a nightmare. We have crosswalk guards that are college students. And if they can't be there, our police will try and help, but otherwise the kids have to defend themselves.
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So, if you include this in your study, can you look at different methods of crosswalk signs,
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whether it's what we have at post office place, or I think it's actually Durham at UNH,
[1:15:44]
they have a wire that has the lights hanging, so it captures you to slow down.
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I don't know what's best.
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My personal hat, I have been rear-ended twice at the dining hall heading north
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because of that curve both at night and when I talked to NEC last year they said
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on any given day they could have 1200 students on campus which just adds
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enormous foot traffic and the last thing I want to touch on is the Pat's Peak
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I've witnessed cars, commercial vehicles, spun out trying to stop going down that
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Little Hill are a highway department and tries to keep up with it, but they can't babysit it
[1:16:29]
So I actually like the idea of a turning lane because I feel like it would give more space for people to react
[1:16:36]
And I just want to say thank you. I'm going home to go to bed to dispatch buses tomorrow. So have a night. Thank you
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Thank you
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Kees tomorrow
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I want to give kudos to the handcraft PD because they do patrol that area quite a bit
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but
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But if the state of New Hampshire owns the room, 114 would only talk in tonight from Hanukkah up to New London.
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Is there any type of grant, or we can request from the state police to actually patrol the state road and
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maybe allow the Hanukkah police to do other things, but also patrol.
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Just a suggestion if the state police could actually increase the patrol on the state road.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Jerry Gilbert again. What he was just saying about the path speak in a
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section is part of your study is any of it looking at the crossroads coming in
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at what's I guess you call it the legal incline before they get to the road. So
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where they're talking at the Pancake House path speak entrance at Gulf Road is
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It's quite steep coming down and I don't know that that meets the new regulations for
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approach ramps if you will.
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Okay.
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Yeah, we can look at things like that, yes.
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Yeah.
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That one comes to mind, mostly the Hanukkah Highway Department took care of one of them
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in town, Prospect Street, upper Prospect Street.
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Not that long ago.
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That was a really steep incline to come on to 114 and a lot of people would slide in.
[1:18:20]
And that one's been relatively taken care of as best as you can with the driveways under
[1:18:25]
there.
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But that one, not only turn lanes on 1-14, but that may require a turn lane on Gulf Road
[1:18:35]
also.
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Okay.
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Thanks.
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Thank you.
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Hi.
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I'm Craig Tufts.
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I work at the Regional Planning Commission.
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I'd love to chat with you guys after the fact.
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I wasn't planning on speaking, but after hearing a lot of what everybody was saying, I thought
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I want to just mention to everybody that the DOT has been installing always stops and
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a lot of locations.
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I know somebody said why can't we put a traffic light and she said it doesn't meet the war
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answer whatever in the state has been rethinking that, you know, is a safety intervention and always
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stop might be considered.
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So 114 Main Street, Western Ave, should we think about that?
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I'm not sure what people in town would think about it.
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I mean, it might slow people down, do we want trucks stopping and going?
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So I know Bill Lambert has a lot of experience with it at the safety section, and you guys are nodding your head, you probably thought about this already.
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But I just thought it was worth mentioning at the meeting, that's all, thank you.
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Thank you.
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Nancy DeMora, I think our biggest issue is that when our roads were built here, we had very few residents probably in town, and now we are exponentially larger.
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So our buildings were built close to the roads and so forth.
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So I don't know how to fix that, unfortunately, that's your problem.
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But I want you to just think about when you're thinking about the NEC area.
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There are two crosswalks there.
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One was in front of where you have the picture in front of Gilmore,
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but then there's another one on the other side of where the Simon Center is.
[1:20:16]
Because that crosswalk is the kids come out of Union Street, drivers coming north on
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114, absolutely cannot see a person in that road until they're in the road.
[1:20:32]
And if you don't know that there's a crosswalk there because you're not from here, you have
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no idea until you are on top of them.
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That is a huge concern for me, I watch it all the time.
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But I also want you to remember that with the NEC students, especially when they're in town,
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their campus is all through the downtown.
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It is not on one side and in a gated area like a lot of colleges are.
[1:20:56]
It is on both sides.
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Their residences are on one side.
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Their buildings are on another side.
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It is through the entire town.
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Their dorms are on this road right out here.
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So they're not even on 114, they're on Main Street, they're on Western F, they're and they're all walking through the town.
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The town is their campus, so please keep that in mind.
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Thank you.
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Hello,
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Nathan Kelly here, resident of Hennecker for five years now, love this town.
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Always boasting how it's the only Hennecker in the world.
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Now, as a motorcycleist, a biker, I'd prefer the term.
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I've been riding the roads of New Hampshire, my whole adult life, I love 1-14, I love the
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towns that goes through and stuff.
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We need a traffic light in the center of town.
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We need that.
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I see people coming south, stopping and knowing or realizing that they're supposed to be going
[1:22:08]
straight.
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you know if they're going south and north they are there's only two stop signs
[1:22:14]
east and west but some of these people don't realize this just keep going
[1:22:19]
through it a safe speed. Another thing I need to bring up or would like to bring
[1:22:23]
up is the crosswalk lighting in the center of town down by the college and then
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between there. I love the lamps to get them nostalgia look they're not bright
[1:22:36]
enough not at all so maybe flashing lights like they were talking about
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further up here and teach these students that they had to learn to operate
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them because on a dark rainy night and not even speeding and they just got
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the heads on the buds in the hood and they just cross without you know it's
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common sense everybody brought up a great point if people use the common
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Even friggin' sense life would be a lot easier.
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That's it.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Neil Kirk from where all of the things that you've heard tonight are relatively
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local issues that need to be addressed.
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But even if they were all addressed, there would still be a major problem.
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This road can't handle the amount of traffic it has now.
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And it can't handle the amount of traffic it will be in ten years when it
[1:23:47]
finally gets to be done.
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One of the things that the state has done, which I thought was pretty good, was to expand
[1:23:55]
or put in a bypass from where 101 and 114 meet in Bedford.
[1:24:02]
Now that bypass didn't finish the job, it ended in part of Goffs Town.
[1:24:07]
But over the next 10, 20 years, you're going to see the amount of traffic on this road
[1:24:12]
would increase incredibly and so a bypass all the way from Bedford to New London and even farther on needs to be in the 10 year or 20 year plan.
[1:24:25]
A lot of the problems that are here today would be exacerbated if you do nothing and simply correct them and yet the traffic increases.
[1:24:33]
So a bypass or some other way to get most of the north-south traffic that isn't local off these roads.
[1:24:41]
would solve a lot of problems.
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Of course, you're talking hundreds of millions of dollars,
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but that's the ultimate solution that we're going to have to have.
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We need north-south traffic roads on the western part of the state.
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The other thing I'd like to suggest is that every time you do a road widening
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or you put inside walks or you do things like that,
[1:25:04]
you change the nature of New Hampshire.
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It doesn't become quite as rural as it was.
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The slower pace of life speeds up.
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The beauty that we have in some of our twisted roads
[1:25:17]
disappears when you straighten them out.
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As you have done between the where, Hennecker line,
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and basically the town of Hennecker.
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Fortunately, you haven't yet done that between the Hennecker line
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and parts of where.
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The southern part you've already done that to.
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So you need to take into consideration not only the traffic that's here now, the traffic
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that's going to be in the future, but also the effect on travel, tourism, and what most
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of us like to think of as the New Hampshire way of life.
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What you folks do can ruin that or enhance it.
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So please keep that in mind.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Hi, Jennifer McCourt.
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Just listening to what that last gentleman just said about having a bypass.
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pass. I don't know where you put it by pass, but I think the bigger problem is just having
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more relief valves over to the highways. Because there's just such long stretches before
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you can get to a road to get over to the highways. And I mean we have 202 and 9, but the next
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one's not till 101. The ones in between are just more small roads like these. So it's like
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Do I go on that small road or this small road?
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Well, this one's shorter so I'm going this way, so I think that should be a consideration.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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It has nothing to do with 114.
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This roundabout on 202.
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Who designed that?
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Let's tell you what is a biker, motorcycles coming west on 202.
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And if I want to take Old Route 9 back into center of town,
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I don't get nervous over much, but I tell you what, that coming around that
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with traffic flowing all over gets a guy a little shaky.
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When I leave the morning or wherever I'm going, I want to get home the same way.
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I wish they put a traffic like there instead of the roundabout, my opinion, but that's it.
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Thank you.
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Anything online?
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All right.
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Just have a few more slides.
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It should be quick.
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All right.
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So the next steps for our corridor study,
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we'll take all the info that we got here tonight
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at the previous meeting that we had for Bedford Goffstown
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and Wear and that we get through the online survey
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and any traffic studies or things like that
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that we end up doing.
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And we'll use that to develop concepts and plans
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and that will be late summer early fall, 2026.
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We'll hold another stakeholder meeting in late fall, 2026,
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and then after that we'll be back here
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to share the concepts that we come up with.
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So it'll be winter, 2026, 207.
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Then we'll revise those as needed, prepare draft report,
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late winter 27, hold another stakeholder meeting
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and spring 27 and then prepare a final report, late spring 27.
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So then we just have the contact info here
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and a link in QR code for the survey so if you have any additional comments or
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concerns you want to share or you think of anything later please feel free to
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use the link and fill out the survey and share anything else that you may
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have.
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I just wanted to add we'll keep the survey open and online through the end of
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the month so through the end of August if you haven't had a chance to take that
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please feel free.
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I'm Richard Rear. We met at the water. We worked on our house.