[0:03] Hello, sir. Thank you very much.

[0:06] In the future, the finalist hold it first, we're trying to test my degree, the original-athon agent,

[0:12] you won't get running somebody living on a house in Mayo, like there's on some religious forwarders.

[0:19] Hi, let's go.

[0:21] Calabvethy is down.

[0:22] Can you show me where I'm right here?

[0:24] No, this is not my fault.

[0:26] I'm here, all right.

[0:27] What is the matter?

[0:28] I'm out here, you didn't do the job.

[0:29] What happened?

[0:30] I haven't caught me.

[0:31] Okay, yeah, always be a test for you.

[0:33] Okay, you're not.

[0:33] Who is he new?

[0:34] I did.

[0:35] I thought he's wrong part.

[0:36] What are we going to do with him?

[0:39] All right.

[0:40] We're alone.

[0:41] Just a few.

[0:43] No.

[0:43] It's been one of those days.

[0:46] No.

[0:46] I think it's going to be interesting.

[0:47] I think it's going to be interesting.

[0:48] We're working.

[0:49] There's four of them.

[0:51] I don't know.

[0:52] I don't know.

[0:53] You can.

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[0:55] You can.

[0:56] Yeah, that's a third of the buzz.

[1:42] Thank you sir.

[1:44] And you eight.

[2:11] Okay.

[2:12] Thank

[2:16] you.

[2:18] Thank you.

[2:21] As you see that they have the one they had.

[2:24] They had a break about.

[2:25] You read your sign.

[2:26] Name this one.

[2:28] Thank you.

[3:59] He's gender.

[4:20] Do you know?

[4:37] When else that?

[5:28] Worked session.

[5:31] For February 22nd, 2021.

[5:34] one. Please note that this work session will be closed to the public due to the COVID-19 pandemic,

[5:40] however again, the view to tell allscreens.com. So I'm going to roll call of attendance.

[5:46] Charles Cummings.

[5:48] Amber Jackson.

[5:51] We're all ready.

[5:52] Like Henry.

[5:54] John Avery.

[5:58] And approval of the agenda.

[6:03] I'm on favor.

[6:05] All right.

[6:06] Thank you.

[6:09] Mr. Avery?

[6:10] Yes, sir.

[6:13] There's a couple things that I've put together

[6:15] that we've been to council.

[6:18] We've talked about a number of times,

[6:19] but it doesn't make us so it's very clear.

[6:22] So

[6:28] the first thing is, if you don't like economic indicators, that's to give the idea

[6:34] that I can not position a lot for a lot, first, 2010 population, 217 people, 20, 20,

[6:45] population, 20,000, 20,000 people, so it's a decrease in about 80 people.

[6:50] The hunt of 811 households for a lot of medium home value,

[6:57] the 140,000, 200, the amount of medium home value

[7:02] is 314,000, 800, and what that means is what it does

[7:06] with a decrease property tax space.

[7:13] Obviously, the property tax is based on the value of the home,

[7:18] so for long as less than average home value

[7:21] the mountains I had, the Maryland medium household income is $86,000 for a lot of me.

[7:30] B&B and household income is 54,000 dollars. For a large per capita income is 29,871 dollars.

[7:41] In the United States,

[7:42] 13.44% of people live in a poverty. 9.2% of people in Maryland live in a poverty. Her law is 15.7% of people

[7:56] 11 in below poverty, the Dorchester County unemployment rate is 6.6% in Maryland,

[8:08] 4.2% of the people have bachelor's degrees for above, and in Maryland, 16.3%

[8:15] have bachelor's degrees for above.

[8:18] The town of Earl Opera has a low-assessible tax-based and poor economic indicators.

[8:26] Over the last several decades, her lock is shown many sons of that economic distress,

[8:33] including high unemployment, low median incomes, and a high poverty rate.

[8:39] Over the last 10 years, her lock has experienced a very high home or clothing rate.

[8:44] Sometimes in town or still in occupied, the residents of our locker are the under-consertable

[8:51] economic strain, which makes it unlikely to raise taxes for water and so on, folks.

[9:00] These are the simple measures to take an offer, the number of places on the website from the census.

[9:07] Okay, the second part on this page is a list of what the employee benefit costs have been.

[9:20] I'm sorry, before we move on, you've got the number of households here, except for 2010, or 2020, or is that current?

[9:34] Oh, that's correct.

[9:40] Where the priority level is, do we know what that is for Dorchester County?

[9:46] Do we know where that stands within Dorchester County?

[9:51] No.

[9:52] Now in Dorchester County, I'm applying it right.

[9:55] It's not broken down by in this fellow.

[9:58] Okay.

[9:59] I don't have that in the middle of this week for the sound.

[10:02] All right.

[10:02] Thank you.

[10:05] Okay.

[10:05] The fiscal year 20, which was over last June,

[10:12] State retirement, I'm not going to go through all these numbers, but what of this is under

[10:17] that year.

[10:18] The State retirement costs were $100,000, and that's what per towns portion that we pay

[10:25] for the State retirement lay-ups, healthcare costs are actually $300,000, $4,894.

[10:34] employment, workments, social security, total employee benefits pay $559,000 by 92 total

[10:45] payroll for police public works administration and council mayor is about 110,000 total

[10:57] wage and benefits cost for the town was 1,732,000.

[11:03] This year, what's positive, that would increase you about a million, 900, from 97,000.

[11:12] And part of the reason for that is that a year ago, there were currently at four more employees

[11:19] than we did a year, and at least a part of it was down the couple of employees.

[11:24] We had one more in wastewater.

[11:28] Next year's budget fiscal 22,

[11:30] If we make that contribution to the health care trust that we talked about,

[11:39] if we open

[11:39] that with $250,000, that's going to bring our cost, $2,286,000, and then in fiscal year

[11:53] 23, if you start contributing to that at the rate of $100,000, our cost will be $2,200,000,

[12:03] and fiscal year 25, which is when state retirement reliefs goes up considerably, our contribution,

[12:13] all the waste and waste and benefits are going to cost a town to $350,000.

[12:20] And these last the next three years for my calculated a 3% increase for wages.

[12:30] This is a reference form.

[12:33] And also currently every year, at the end of the fiscal year, the number of vacation hours that are on the books,

[12:42] or tell it, so they're called compensated absences,

[12:47] so we know what our liability is there.

[12:49] At the end of June for 2020, there were 3,656 vacation hours

[12:56] on the books.

[12:59] Average

[13:04] salary food at $24 an hour, that would make that 87,744 dollars

[13:12] the town's current at the June 30th, a lot of building for those vacation hours.

[13:18] This is just the reason I did this was to give you a reference point to see where things

[13:22] are.

[13:24] When we start looking at the new budget coming up, you can see that between the revenue side and

[13:34] that the expended society, that the expended society is catching up to the revenue side.

[13:42] Now that's what we don't want, is this the revenue proposal.

[13:46] Have less revenue than we do with expenditure.

[13:50] And that's what I have with now.

[13:54] There's any question for each other in two thousand.

[13:59] A statement that's for the entire town is just not the police department.

[14:02] No, that's the entire entire town.

[14:05] Now I'm going to jump in the layoffs when town went into the layoffs program.

[14:11] Layoffs is a very expensive retirement program.

[14:16] There is a discount that we would give in our contribution to layoffs.

[14:23] This year should just replace a loan that is over $100,000.

[14:27] And we were discounted for repayment. I think it was about 70,000, it was 75,000.

[14:34] This year we paid $140,000 in state retirement, 75,000 for police, 65,000 dollars for the other employees.

[14:43] That discount in 20, 25 days away.

[14:48] So the police, that's probably about 140,000 by itself.

[14:54] So we're supposed to do them there,

[14:59] that's one.

[15:01] That's right at the state retirement, sums up to $200,000 at that point.

[15:21] It suggests that updates from the employee policy, there's been a lot of discussion for the vacation

[15:28] how at the time

[15:31] we've worked at it. I've worked with federal policy, I suppose, the piece

[15:37] and policy, we talked about it at the last workshop, and I gave the council a nice, nice suggestion,

[15:45] but I think this is the best that we can come up with at this time based on conversations

[15:51] with everybody that we have talked to.

[15:54] I said this up to the Council last in the last week.

[16:00] The vacation hour is exactly the thing that each Eastern has just adopted by Russell Luchin.

[16:10] The interesting thing that we were talking about, the vacation hours that on the books

[16:17] We currently are allowing people to carry over 360 hours at the end of June and then whatever

[16:28] vacation hours that they've earned for that next year is added to that 360.

[16:34] East was only allowing 240 and over the next two years, that's going to decrease to 50% of what

[16:43] some burns per year, you know, the maximum would be 100 hours that they can carry over.

[16:52] You know, somebody owns 80 hours in the year, but in the most, they don't be able to carry

[16:56] over from one year to the other, it's 40.

[16:58] And the whole purpose of that is to limit their liability for those vacation hours.

[17:03] You see, with a number of people at East and in boys, how much it would be.

[17:08] the compensated absence is there very high, the R5 now.

[17:17] At this point, that would also bring down

[17:21] these bottom numbers. That's a here current. Only down the bottom, the last one down the bottom.

[17:30] Right, but as far as total wage and benefits, that wouldn't reduce those numbers.

[17:35] No, it's not going to affect those numbers at all. No, okay.

[17:38] You know, that the vacation hours are over and over for the compensate of the absence of

[17:44] supper.

[17:45] That's a problem.

[17:48] It does, they're not decreasing the vacation hours of the employees are given, because

[17:54] the decrease in what they can carry over and that they don't use.

[17:59] The next year

[18:04] of the coffee, you know, advocated in decrease in vacation hours, you know.

[18:16] essentially the same things. What we have been doing, which is in Dubai, after six months

[18:23] we've been together in 40 hours. In the policy five days and it comes back to when I think

[18:30] when I was originally, everybody's working eight hours just right out of days, but that

[18:37] in there. And we have worked on 40 hours for that all along. At 12 months, the new

[18:45] heart would be given another 40 hours. And then the next July 1st, whatever

[18:54] bounds that he has, and there would be pro-rated, and that people have been awarded

[19:00] They're given a number of hours of appropriated on July 1st, and then every July 1st,

[19:07] they're after everybody gets the hours of their retirement type.

[19:13] So, one to five years of ADF would be 80 hours annually.

[19:18] Six to ten years would be getting to the 6th year.

[19:22] That would be after the employee had worked for the 5 years.

[19:26] 120 hours, any delay, and 11 years old in 160 hours, and

[19:37] then again, that's a bit of what we're not advocating to change in the crude hours of the whole fistpoint.

[19:47] You got this, this is the rest.

[19:50] The holiday time.

[19:54] And if you weren't right this down, the sections discussed in the last section of the group for the whole time.

[20:02] We do it by section.

[20:04] Okay.

[20:07] So, we've talked about the vacations and where we did with that, and any questions, comments.

[20:19] I do have a question, but I guess we'll talk about it at the end of it in reference to the last paragraph in the memo.

[20:28] And we're just on vacation at the moment.

[20:31] So John, the biggest discussion in the opposite, you and I talked about it, was the day one day for day.

[20:38] There's been a discussion I have day for day, correct?

[20:40] So, which, looking at the hours, they're going to get those days.

[20:44] They just got to work at the five years to get to those days.

[20:48] So as a 12 hour employee, they would get the five days off after their fifth year anniversary.

[20:54] At 120 hours, correct?

[20:57] So, like the discussion that you and I have with the concern of the hours, they really were concerned that that going from days to hours,

[21:07] please employees would have less days off of vacation than they would have to use more time to take off one day versus an eight-hour employee.

[21:17] When you look at it on these hours they use proposed, they would get to those five days if they want currently all under the fifth year anniversary they get 120 hours which equates to the five days of a 12 hour point.

[21:36] Well, after the first year they would be getting 80 hours which is more than five days to start with.

[21:44] And this, we've gone back and forth enough, I've had mixed feelings about it.

[21:50] And part of it is, yes, it's important, the public works, other employees work, 5-8-hour

[21:55] days, that's 40 hours.

[21:58] Okay.

[21:59] Police.

[22:00] They worked at the play of 185 days a year, divided by 52 weeks, comes out to three days

[22:09] and something a week.

[22:10] So 12 hours times three days, I mean three, come out about the same thing, let's try

[22:16] at one, so many days per week.

[22:20] So it's the vacation time if you look at it like week.

[22:25] Equities to about the same is if they put the hours on the books, this was a concern.

[22:31] If you calculate the police at 12 hours per day, then you would give them 60 hours

[22:40] from the per year.

[22:44] Because it's probably per week at 60 hours per week, where the normal player would get 40 hours.

[22:50] So they would be at about 40 percent, I mean 50 percent more than the normal player.

[22:55] They put the hours on the books and cast them in, we're one employee who would be getting $12 or $12, the other employee would be getting $60.

[23:05] And that's what I'm saying, the concern was that they were, they want to take five days off at a time,

[23:11] but they don't, because 12 employees were three days at most.

[23:15] But if they had a five day stretch of work that they wanted to take off, they wouldn't have enough time

[23:21] and a lot of three hours to take those that we call, because of them working 12 versus 8.

[23:29] But essentially, at the time of youth suggested that they would get to those two weeks of vacation total at 120 hours.

[23:37] Because that gives them officially gives them their correct time that they would have to take as a 12 hour employee to do that consecutive week.

[23:46] versus versus, but they only work three days at a time.

[23:49] I see, three days at a time, so what I'm trying to say is I agree to the hours that

[23:55] you have to propose, I think the hours, to get to where I think that one of the concerns was,

[24:03] they just have to work longer for the PD to get to those hours that they need for that

[24:06] two-week vacation if they were going to have to take that, but they wouldn't, obviously.

[24:13] Because they were three months apart.

[24:15] I've talked to the chief quite a bit about this too.

[24:18] And I think with the proper, I'm not trying to short-lock.

[24:22] I'm not trying to advocate short- and police officers.

[24:25] Any vacation time whatsoever.

[24:26] I think they're entitled every bit of what they get.

[24:30] Right.

[24:31] I think this doesn't.

[24:32] I think this gives them that hour that they wanted to...

[24:36] They shot a reward to get to those hours,

[24:38] which is more years of service to get to those hours.

[24:41] which is good. I agree that I like it. Okay.

[24:49] We're talking about hours. So I took.

[24:52] I have permission to share this. I spoke with human resources today as my company.

[24:59] And as we mentioned in the last paragraph, it talks about any unused hours,

[25:07] I'll lay out a little bit of force to be at termination of employment.

[25:11] Well, that's where we're not talking about that?

[25:14] Okay.

[25:15] I'm just kind of talking about an incredible rate for making things up this time.

[25:20] That's what that's got to do with something else in parallel in the case of time.

[25:30] I'll leave.

[25:32] Okay.

[25:33] I'll explain it.

[25:34] No, I have to do not explain how to do that.

[25:38] I'm the first to do something here.

[25:39] just trying to say that, you know, without the approval of the hours, we're talking about

[25:45] the community of the, for example, the beginning is the last time. The employee, it's

[25:50] all the hours that they're entitled to, however many areas there is a department that

[25:54] could be thrown into a group of papers.

[25:57] It's not days, it's hours. Right. Right.

[26:00] And that's what everybody has to say.

[26:03] You know, you know, I can public work skip 40 hours, you know, 40 hours, you know,

[26:11] 40 hours, you know, you work 3 days, you know, at a max, you know, that's 30, 36 hours,

[26:23] that they can use to get those 3 days off and then you have 2-1-8-6.

[26:30] You know, 2-1-7-6.

[26:35] Before we get into this compartment, let me tell you what this definition is, this is a polystyrene

[26:42] I may answer in the question of the Bible.

[26:46] Okay, on polystyrene, the polystyrene is where the police also is not working on the

[26:56] That officer would be given the same number about 12 hours of holiday time that he could take as a day off.

[27:05] Some point in the future, that's a holiday time.

[27:09] That's not a vacation time to turn.

[27:16] That's what this holiday time in the back of first and what it says is that

[27:22] The holiday hours that are a crew would have to be used as soon as possible scheduled with a department head.

[27:33] And if there are any unused holiday hours at the time of termination,

[27:39] that they would be full of domestic, they have no death's value.

[27:46] Now, along with that, I think instead of saying as soon as possible that you say that

[27:54] they need to be used in 30 days or 60 days, otherwise you're basically saying that they

[27:59] can continue to accrue those until they want to use them.

[28:04] So I would say make that a, if you've got six hours holiday time, you can't let it ride

[28:11] for a year, you need to use it up.

[28:13] Yes, exactly.

[28:14] But right now, that was just that we

[28:17] have to keep the record to giving us a time frame, whether

[28:20] it'd be 30 or 45 days within me.

[28:22] Just to know that we do not, the integrity of the shifts

[28:27] that are in operations, that time or holiday time

[28:32] is a lot to that individual, or those individuals,

[28:35] that the command knows to put it in a time frame of which they can work, so that they're

[28:43] not.

[28:44] I don't want them to lose it, but at the same time, the Department heads have to figure

[28:48] out where there's going to be in place to where it can be utilized and benefits the town

[28:53] even the schedule, and also the employees who burn them.

[29:03] They used us the time and used us the time and the time and the loo of us.

[29:12] So they did the same thing.

[29:14] They did employee.

[29:16] So many hours.

[29:17] And loo of the hours.

[29:18] And they either worked on the holiday or water work from the holiday.

[29:21] But did

[29:24] it.

[29:25] And the police are a little bit different.

[29:27] The redder employees.

[29:29] The redder employees.

[29:30] I have a holiday that it was worth on a pay for.

[29:34] police are basically good-paying. They're pay-by-hour, but it's a sour.

[29:42] And so, they're pay-signing,

[29:44] typically, the same, every paycheck.

[29:49] They're not getting extra pay for not working on all that.

[29:54] They don't work on all that. They're not scared of working. They would begin in 12 hours.

[30:00] At another time, we'll take off, we'll make up for that policy.

[30:13] What I have here, basically, say for example, in the beginning of the fiscal year, July 1,

[30:19] we're giving them, whatever time they've been in office, they'll make the get 80 dates

[30:24] to use for the year fiscal 2021, 2022.

[30:28] So they have them, it's on the books, they have 80 hours to use, since they've been in

[30:32] they're one, one, they're one year of course.

[30:35] They have a day out.

[30:36] My point that I want to bring up was,

[30:40] if they leave, we're done with termination,

[30:42] if they leave and they've not,

[30:44] and they've used all the way in the hours,

[30:46] but they didn't fulfill the whole year of work,

[30:49] because they're given these upfronts.

[30:51] If that would be something we'd have to look at for,

[30:54] I hate said it, but they've used it,

[30:56] and that's throughout the year.

[30:58] So I had a cruel values of how many days they get,

[31:01] based on each pet, you know, who's divided in the hours into how many hours you get per

[31:08] page and that's just something that's here, that's all. I just want to make sure that we

[31:12] have all that looked into it well. What we don't, we don't get them all the time before we

[31:18] have to get them out for the year that they were. But I'm saying they have it, what if they use it

[31:23] in the first, they get approval to use it, they get it to line it and they use it and then not

[31:27] Oh, that's fine, because they earned it a year before.

[31:30] They don't get it till there's six months of employment

[31:35] then you get 40 hours when you get to the year,

[31:37] then you get the next 40.

[31:39] And then what's the reason they're already earned out?

[31:43] Yes.

[31:43] Right.

[31:46] OK, I mean, that's what I wanted to be sure, too, OK.

[31:48] Because I've the way I thought we were talking,

[31:50] once fiscal 2021 hits, they ought to make

[31:53] to get the year to be the 80 hours forward that year.

[31:57] It's for the year that they had already worked prior to that, so right now somebody comes

[32:01] on the board to get nothing because it's worth 40 hours of the first six months, that's

[32:05] worth it.

[32:07] I just want to make sure that we're in place with what we've been talking about.

[32:14] You've heard that.

[32:19] And I think further any questions?

[32:22] I appreciate it.

[32:25] And if for some reason the chief comes up with a better system where he gets to an eight-hour

[32:31] our schedule, we can still cover everything the way it is, everything stays the same, they still

[32:36] give 40 hours,

[32:40] whatever the case may have been.

[32:41] Well, that was what we discussed at one point.

[32:44] We're talking about the right now, we have a 12 hour need hour group in the police department.

[32:49] We talked about our paperwork shows the hour employee, shifts, three and eight hour shifts.

[32:54] So our paperwork sort of showed everybody for eight hours.

[32:57] Now we did, either go back to the 8-hour program or we come up with a solution with

[33:01] recognizing that 12-hour shift in voice.

[33:04] Please.

[33:09] Sit at last part again.

[33:12] Our paperwork shows need our free 8-hour shift in group.

[33:16] That's how it was before this change by the former administration.

[33:19] If I'm wrong, let me know if we had this conversation several times.

[33:23] She fight and change into a 12-hour shift program.

[33:26] The paperwork still shows 3-8-hour shifts is how it is recognized.

[33:30] at eight-hour purport, so at least the paperwork that we have is showing eight-hour shift,

[33:37] no 12-hour shift to point. And that's been the question now we have and have 12-hour shift

[33:44] to point if we're trying to make sure that the paperwork recognizes an eight-hour shift,

[33:49] which would be the department heads and the receptives that are prepared along with the patrol

[33:56] who run the flow out, so now we should recognize in the eight-hour shift, and until about our shift in voice of the police department, which is what we're trying to do.

[34:05] That's what's been presented to recognize the 12-hour shift in voice.

[34:10] That's what we're talking about.

[34:12] Okay, so did you see any issue or problem with what's in your...

[34:16] No, I just want to make sure the question is where to solve a holiday hours, because this we've talked about this several times.

[34:21] All right, well, for further explanations for everybody that hears this, in the case of a police officer that starts at 6 p.m., the day preceding a holiday and works to 6 a.m. the day of the holiday.

[34:38] He would get six hours of paper, normal paper, the day for seeding all day, six hours of time and a half or the hall day.

[34:48] And then the six hours that he didn't work of that 12 hour shift on the hall day, he would get six hours of time as a little more hall day time.

[34:58] They can take off or look at you dead.

[35:01] And they also don't work at all when we're seeing 12 hours.

[35:09] And they also, that worked 12 hours,

[35:10] you don't know how, but when we're seeing all that bad,

[35:14] I'm going to have for that 12 hours.

[35:16] That's it.

[35:17] Look at

[35:21] it.

[35:21] Chuck.

[35:22] Yes, sir.

[35:22] Anything further?

[35:23] Yes, sir.

[35:25] Amber?

[35:27] Yes, Bonnie?

[35:29] Calphate seats?

[35:31] OK.

[35:32] I think I look good.

[35:38] And the next thing is on the agenda, pretty much basically, goes to the announcements, and now

[35:44] some of those other explanations, discussions, but the first thing is the MML conference,

[35:53] Claire put out notice to the Council members that this year, MML conference is going to be

[36:07] revisions to the MML issue.

[36:13] The registration is open for two individuals from the NIST for NIST valley until March 21st.

[36:23] After March 21st it will be open until the 400 slots are closed.

[36:29] So council member Francis already put in a request to attend, so we need one other council member.

[36:39] I will wait.

[36:41] Okay.

[36:42] My position.

[36:43] Okay, so.

[36:46] So I, I, I also, we, my, my, my, I, I'm on this, I'm on two committees anyway.

[36:55] So,

[36:58] the newer ones are the ones that haven't ever been offered it, somebody has never been

[37:06] up in 20 times.

[37:11] All right.

[37:12] So, that is done.

[37:14] Okay.

[37:15] Remember termings?

[37:16] To throw this out.

[37:18] I haven't waited for an ambulance.

[37:21] To throw this out.

[37:24] I haven't waited for an ambulance.

[37:25] So we are relocating to Bethlehem.

[37:31] So that leads, we'll leave a opening on the council, uh, beginning May.

[37:42] So, that's something else we need to look for.

[37:47] So, whichever, like here, same to side of the go, whichever one to side to go, then you know the one, but the third one, get to register, get those, don't think so.

[38:00] Thank you.

[38:03] The next thing, we got last week at the Justice Council in the yield tax rate from the state.

[38:14] Again, the assessments have gone up slightly, which means that they're projected in our tax rate should go down to 0.8098 from 0.8237.

[38:29] Because if we are exactly, because it was less than $25,000, that's why we're in our current

[38:35] rate, we have to protect the rate.

[38:39] If you do not have to file, we don't have to donate anything, we can keep the current rate

[38:42] that we have, which essentially would give a ton of net increase of $17,000 in real estate.

[38:54] This is the same thing that we did last year, this is a not asking for a decision tonight.

[38:58] I'll just get a new one next to the nation, so we can make a decision.

[39:03] You're in the near future, and I get to touch your expected state.

[39:08] So if there's any discussion on that, please let me know.

[39:19] Anything?

[39:21] Any thoughts on that?

[39:22] Are you want to wait till next meeting?

[39:28] I think you'll see.

[39:29] It's expressed in real facts that our residents are poor in our homes.

[39:38] We all stayed in some of them in poor poetry.

[39:43] And I said, even dislike it, it says.

[39:47] Keep the library for sure.

[39:49] Okay.

[39:51] That's my suggestion.

[39:54] I'll give you some questions.

[39:58] I was contacted by an engineer, the guest is

[40:09] working for the Alliance of Mobile Home Park.

[40:13] That has been proposed to give a man proposal that this is just an

[40:21] argument at this point.

[40:24] What they're considering or would like to know, they have failed in certain systems that they're mobile home park.

[40:32] And the thought that they had to see if the town was interested in accepting the waste from that mobile homebar,

[40:40] which would mean building a pump station there, and all this associated piping from reliance to our wastewater plant.

[40:52] All of that would be done at their cost.

[40:54] I wouldn't tell for us after that was completed, that system would be turned over to the town,

[41:05] then that pulsation would become the towns in the way that that would be written.

[41:10] Any maintenance that would be incurred in that in annual inspections, that mobile home park would have to pay for that.

[41:18] It's the same type of arrangement that's done in the high school and the middle school.

[41:23] The issue with this, they're talking about a hundred and potentially a hundred and twenty homes.

[41:32] And with that, when you use it, the quick on daily unit, the Maryland Department of Environment,

[41:39] uses which is 250 gallons a day, that the amount of 30,000 gallons a day that would come to the forest.

[41:46] We've come to us from the park, too, or a wasteful of the plant.

[41:51] Now, they think this is probably going to be less than 10,000 gallons of reality.

[41:59] That would amount to about $1100 somewhere between $8 to $1100 and revenue to the town per month.

[42:07] How much?

[42:08] eight hundred to eleven hundred dollars in revenue for a month.

[42:14] Act, say a thousand gallons, I mean ten thousand gallons a day.

[42:20] That's what they're estimated in this Georgia.

[42:24] But currently this is where the concern comes in,

[42:28] and we can look at this three ways.

[42:30] Currently, the wastewater plants, average annual daily discharge

[42:37] is between 1.45 and 1.55 million gallons per day.

[42:44] Our lemon is 1.65.

[42:46] So we're at about 83% over a year's average of our capacity.

[42:53] MDE likes to see wants to see plants.

[42:58] We're expansion.

[43:00] We control that once we go over 80%.

[43:03] which we have done.

[43:05] So we are there.

[43:07] Right now, with the rainy weather, the cold,

[43:10] and everything, we're actually

[43:12] over the daily base of run, over the capacity.

[43:16] We're having that 1.8 million, 1.9 million.

[43:20] And that's because of ground water that's

[43:24] getting in from storm water, the Saturn system.

[43:29] So, my call on that is,

[43:36] and I've said this before, if we're going to give allocation to another

[43:42] home project or something, I believe it should be in town.

[43:48] We're not going to receive any property taxes, anything else from that mobile home park.

[43:52] What I think we're going to receive is potentially a $1,000, $1,000 a day.

[43:57] I mean the month, I'm sorry, I'll take that for a month.

[44:03] But that's the one way of looking at the other way of looking at this, to go down to EED and say,

[44:09] you've got the mobile home part, to scale in septic systems.

[44:13] What can you do to help us expand our plan and accept their waste?

[44:17] You've got them off the septic systems.

[44:20] And see if we can do anything that way.

[44:23] So I can put it out to the council if you're planning on it and I know I just overreacted

[44:33] discussion.

[44:36] Let's take a look,

[44:39] we go to capacity, is, are we fine for that kind of, when we're

[44:44] operating over the capacity right now, yeah, yeah, we thought that we talked to LDE if when

[44:50] they know we've got so much rain right now, we can't do it.

[44:53] We can't spray our gays to lower the legones until it marks.

[45:00] To the wintertime, you can't use the spray irrigation,

[45:05] though we're pretty limited as to what we can do with it, but as far as us operating, we're okay with it, yes.

[45:12] I'll do the post plan. Have anything called over? No, they're good now. No, they're good.

[45:19] They're discharged, they have been going over 1.1, 1.2 million else a day, they are down

[45:26] under, which is what we were striving to get to 900,000,000 million else a day.

[45:35] So, their discharge has been good and they've been consistent.

[45:39] Mr. Speaker, it's for my vote and my position is that we should leave an entertain

[45:46] out, including them in our equation, because, again, the group in Don't Just Accounting

[45:56] is always the slots that we need for water source,

[46:05] stormwater, and everything that matters

[46:07] to this town, should be just like you just said.

[46:12] This should be town, of course, everything else last.

[46:18] We had a discussion about this, about bringing water, and somewhere to throw out from

[46:27] Secretary that idea, and I think if we were making plans to increase productivity and

[46:37] the capacity for the phone.

[46:40] What is going to play it should be also done with the mind of housing businesses here in this

[46:51] area.

[46:53] So, in that where it's home comes first, and I think that there's a possibility that they

[46:59] could go to the state and to the environmental people and say, look, we need a hand to

[47:07] we need different things, maybe die, and we should say, we support them, and deeper.

[47:13] But, thank you so much, David, we've got to, we're afraid to add a double, two, where we know

[47:21] those capacity, but it's with our room to bring more people, more business, not just, I think,

[47:28] you're right, because David, I agree with you that, I don't think we should even entertain

[47:32] that.

[47:32] It's very, very bad, it is come up.

[47:35] It's very, we were talking to you about, you know, our capacities, or we need that

[47:41] function to say something.

[47:43] It helps.

[47:44] And we're talking about that as a five-year plan.

[47:46] It's a six-year set.

[47:48] So we're viewing that now with MDE, correct?

[47:52] We're, we're at capacity, where we're like, we have taken the seven.

[47:56] There are the five days of amic farms.

[47:59] We put that to a seven-day, you know,

[48:02] they're ponds now, so that we're trying to make it work while we move forward with the time.

[48:08] So hopefully we're using that now that helps expand it, you know.

[48:12] Well, yeah, the way that 70E on their great applications, the criteria that they use for

[48:20] rating the applications is by nutrient, this nutrient reduction.

[48:27] So neither of the grant applications that we put in are lower in any of the departments,

[48:38] the pump station grant application, we're renovating that pump station does nothing for lower

[48:44] in the nitrogen or phosphorus.

[48:48] The same thing with the plant now, the plant has been operated below its limits and still

[48:54] a little bit more to do that as taking more chemicals because of the cold weather and the

[49:00] added strong water. But we're still operating under the limits and the ESC evidence. So we're

[49:09] not achieving any injury reduction possibly. We're really not rating that highly on those applications.

[49:16] If we were to help, like the whole home part, eliminate all of those septic systems, that's

[49:25] the same in the new period of the doctor.

[49:26] And that's, I guess that would be my comment.

[49:29] We already talked to MDE about our programs now.

[49:31] We can take this as that we can consider, not commit, but we can consider looking into this.

[49:40] We don't know how long they're failing.

[49:42] It's going to be the court failed.

[49:44] Do we know what day or a year?

[49:48] I don't know, I don't know.

[49:49] So maybe, look at that, say, we would entertain

[49:52] the part of helping this day to the local park.

[49:56] But we also need your help with this in order

[50:00] to make sure that our plan is a town

[50:03] and the businesses within the town limits

[50:05] and the citizens in our town are taking care of.

[50:08] We can help them and help you reduce those numbers, but at the same time, we really can't

[50:14] do that until we get some help with our progress.

[50:17] And then when we do make these changes, we take the increase from there and add to our numbers

[50:22] to make sure that we can accommodate them and also increase what we've been talking about for

[50:29] a year now.

[50:30] We've been talking about longer than that but in the depth of knowing we've got to take this

[50:34] change happening.

[50:35] So, I mean, I am seeing a degree of telephone service on that at the same time, no commitment

[50:42] to the mobile home park, but in the evening, no, that we can help them if we have the help

[50:49] that we've been asking for.

[50:50] Well, that's true.

[50:51] They've got their engineers, so, represented them with some leverage with them to use.

[50:58] Right.

[50:59] So, we have to use the two together and make it happen for both.

[51:02] But no commitment to the mobile part because we can't.

[51:05] We don't have the capacity, can we help you?

[51:08] We'd love to.

[51:09] But we need your help in order to get an hour and the E-product forward.

[51:14] Sure, sure term we need to look at what's best for her life.

[51:17] Exactly. Absolutely.

[51:19] Second phase is to consider what's outside, whether it's the realized trail of park,

[51:25] where it's the restaurant or wherever else needs it, the greatest.

[51:30] And if we can combine what we have with what the Creole Park can have, and it can help us achieve

[51:39] where we need to be, and I would say, go for it.

[51:43] But it also has to expand to the point where we can bring in the industrial park where

[51:51] we bring in that whole area over there that's planned for development.

[51:56] You know, and that's what I'm saying is, Mayor, what if they have to have this answer because they're going to fill them three years?

[52:04] Well, there's no way we can help in the entrance note today.

[52:06] Well, that's where people all have sit down to table and talk to the chief that go.

[52:15] And Favill's group has a waste of resources to this book.

[52:19] six months after I've seen a little more shit out there.

[52:30] If you may not, I believe you may, yes, sir.

[52:36] Any of the physical towns? Discussion?

[52:39] Do we call on the lock first?

[52:42] Member?

[52:45] It's calling?

[52:51] The next door, which is a bleak left one of those 16-year-old towns,

[52:59] that's the property that the town,

[53:03] doorchester county, worked together with habitat,

[53:08] and the property was donated to habitat

[53:12] the town took the house down, habitat does not have the ability to build a house on that

[53:20] thing, we're in the near future, and they have offered it back to the town, so we do have

[53:26] the aid there, there's one head and sent the aid over, which will be registered tomorrow,

[53:36] according to tomorrow, that probably will be back in possession of the town.

[53:44] The question

[53:45] is, okay, what we do with it, it would be my suggestion, we put it out for a bit, the local

[53:55] contractors here we'd get a house for an order and whatever direction the council wants to go on they have given the property back to the town

[54:06] so the one thing is cost us right now is the cost of $45,000 will put a tax to be paid on and that's it.

[54:15] I'm very careful to say that the fact is that even when we look at getting grants for the town we

[54:24] after they want to know what we're doing for housing.

[54:29] If you put it out from the contracts, and they say, okay, well, we can, you know, we can

[54:38] build something we can do this and then, and we got to look down a road that was someone

[54:42] moves in there.

[54:43] I was, of course, to tell you how it's just going.

[54:45] We got to attach the coin in there, and we got to advance all the way, so it's a win

[54:50] And when, if we, if we do it this, the right way of that, and I think you've got to

[54:57] report there.

[54:58] What is that?

[54:59] I think you've got a good report.

[55:01] You've got to take on what?

[55:02] We will need an ordinance from, Mr. American, I'll have an draft of ordinance for say,

[55:12] all that property, and we'll get it out for a bit.

[55:16] What kind of things we get back to the local conference?

[55:20] Can we kill the billers?

[55:21] Can we also say that it needs to be built upon them within a certain time period and

[55:26] You know I sort of look in

[55:28] Yeah, it's a stipulation. This is a win-win for us

[55:32] Mark

[55:33] We had a group here last week

[55:37] And that was a thought that we were looking at acres of providing property and things like that

[55:47] I don't know if we're looking at this turned over back to the town.

[55:51] I don't know if they're a vision to America when we were listening to their presentation.

[55:56] This could be an opportunity to see what they would really expect.

[56:00] She had mentioned there were some builders involved with her program.

[56:04] In the conversations at her presentation, I don't know that there's been any truly golden area,

[56:10] But it sounds like she has a thought process, and I would like to share her thing, maybe just call her, to see if they believe you present a bit, to look at this piece of property and give us the size of the day to give a billbone hair, and maybe some actual information.

[56:26] It's just a thought that, as exactly what she was asking for, after the last meeting.

[56:31] And I look at this as a piece of probably for one home as an opportunity to see what they are actually looking at doing and can do and whether it gets to the next step or not.

[56:43] At least give them an opportunity to look at the piece of probably and go from there.

[56:48] I listen to it and I don't think that we should be calling anyone to say, hey, here's a piece of property, what can you do?

[56:58] because if you call this one, and you need to call this one, this one, this one, this one, and when you skip somebody, that's when you can bring that soft in the door.

[57:06] Do you want to mention she came to the tech council?

[57:08] That's all. It's not a good fit to be in our prop and it's a simple situation, I don't know if that was not for me.

[57:15] If it's...

[57:15] They would have the opportunity to bid on it just as well as a contractor or you or I.

[57:21] I don't have that much.

[57:22] Just to mention, because they didn't come before the council.

[57:27] Now, it was our day to council, Mr. Secretary, and you might want to consider, too.

[57:33] If you're going to put it up for this, right, then we're going to ask that there are the

[57:36] security on the subject to make sure that they complete the kind of difficult project

[57:42] who are trying to attract to the students.

[57:46] So, we need more housing.

[57:48] It's no question about that.

[57:49] And we need affordable housing.

[57:51] So I think that the course of Mr. Abe, we can say it's your course today, that's the least thing I think of.

[58:02] We've got a one-room situation, so they build some other moves in it, they pay taxes.

[58:12] So at first we sounded to also, oh, you know, they have a little bit of a peculiar air by everybody.

[58:17] It's not

[58:23] going out of the thing that I have that I wanted to add and said, we had the decorating Christmas lighting contest.

[58:33] I'll take the certificates and the checks to the winners.

[58:39] But the first place winner for the residential went to the Knodes, Laura Knode, and Lizard 401 rights Avenue.

[58:48] So second place went to, to Mathieu Cruz Ortiz at 100 Martin Drive, and then we had our

[59:01] third place when our Matthew Lawrence had to to Charles Street.

[59:07] We also did it for the businesses, and only one business decorated, and that was Pete's

[59:16] and they get first place.

[59:20] I'll be visiting everybody in the next couple of days to get that out.

[59:29] Anything else?

[59:30] Council?

[59:32] No sir?

[59:33] Same thing.

[59:35] Is Bonnie?

[59:37] Is that right?

[59:38] Just Murphy?

[59:41] Calcency?

[59:44] Then I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.

[59:47] I can't say it.

[59:52] Oh, I'll tell you what?

[59:54] I'll tell you what?

[59:55] I'll tell you what?

[1:00:00] Turn it roll now back there.

Work Session February 22 2021

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