City of Irondale Special City Council Meeting 4/14/2021

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[0:01] [Music]
[0:14] um [Music]
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[0:56] so
[1:10] right um
[1:36] good evening how are you doing tonight
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[1:52] i guess basically back to you we've got three candidates to get through in a 30
[1:55] minute period so we'll give each candidate 10 minutes
[1:59] i would say two minutes per council person
[2:04] and then if you want to start or end with two minutes kind of telling us a
[2:08] little bit about yourself
[2:14] you want me yes
[2:17] well i am nicole here i work for jefferson county commission in
[2:22] their courthouse in the finance department
[2:25] nicole terry okay okay okay okay all right i'm sorry um well
[2:31] i live in newtown alabama i was unemployed for a little while um
[2:37] until i got into the marriage system with the county um
[2:40] prior to that being unemployed my father passed away and we had to kind of think
[2:44] of how i was going to get a job and so that
[2:47] came about with the jefferson county commissioner is there
[2:50] i'm sorry in their finance department so i have been there
[2:54] with them for four years i work heavily under the um cfo and the
[2:59] deputy director i'm working mainly with
[3:02] accounts receivable i get in the checks for this
[3:05] for jefferson county i handle the deposits the entries into our
[3:10] munich system with everything that comes in from there
[3:14] um not married no kids so if you know anyone that you know
[3:20] [Music] but um just let's say just me just um
[3:26] coming through the system i used to be a senior medicare auditor i did medicare
[3:30] for 13 years i got laid off there because they saw a different way
[3:34] to go so we lost the contract with the mac with that so that's how i ended up
[3:38] at jefferson county at their clients
[3:43] we still got another 30 seconds is there anything else you would like to tell us
[3:46] about you i think that's it about me i'll hold the
[3:49] book pretty much if you guys have any questions just
[3:52] feel free to ask me i don't have a problem with answering those questions
[3:55] for you okay perfect we'll go ahead and uh go in and
[3:58] worry about this manner councilman deploy yours for two minutes
[4:03] okay um one of the things we discussed as terry was the treasurer's being the
[4:09] cfo and the fact that they work with the
[4:15] bond payments because the city does have some debt
[4:18] uh and also in preparing them with our city's annual budget
[4:22] can you talk to me a little bit about your experience
[4:26] in calculating and or taking care of bond payments
[4:32] for jefferson county well currently i do not take care of those actual blind
[4:37] payments i did the reconciliation of those buying payments to actual
[4:41] statements that are submitted from the bank
[4:43] so i would look at those and we had a principal account and that actually did
[4:46] in the he did dead management and while he was
[4:50] looking for a senior accountant i just worked with him
[4:52] just to help him reconcile those bond payments to the rest of the initiative
[4:56] okay and how about the budgeting process are you involved in any of the buddy
[5:02] budding process for jefferson county no ma'am we have a
[5:06] budget department they normally get with our
[5:09] general ledger team and they are the ones that uh will talk
[5:12] about the actual budget in itself i'm on the general level team but
[5:16] that side of it no the question came from that
[5:19] thank you mr i'll go ahead and defer to captain fox
[5:24] well hi mr cherry we appreciate you coming out
[5:28] um you just said that you work in the ar department
[5:32] right okay and what all uh type of receivables
[5:36] do you fall under your domain there pretty much kind of all of them so just
[5:42] just general general accounting suffer you expensive
[5:45] specifically handle tax collections or tax collection has they have their own
[5:50] area they collected in for that what i would do is i would invoice out
[5:54] different customers and they would send in different
[5:57] payments to me i was even payments from the states in regards to
[6:01] business privilege taxes i also do journal entries from
[6:04] the tax collector's office in order to submit out the road tax which
[6:08] sydney arnold should receive that check once a year as well as the business
[6:11] privilege tax check um other ones will be just those various
[6:16] odd and end checks that come in tax collectors send
[6:18] us a lot of checks but most of them are coming from the state of alabama
[6:21] and they're also coming from those customers that are invoiced out on a
[6:25] monthly basis very good do you deal with any
[6:28] delinquent accounts or collect any of those as far as yes sir i
[6:32] actually do um before i got there um there was the
[6:35] process of changing over to that human system
[6:38] and the immune system we didn't understand at that particular time
[6:41] how to retrieve our people that were the oldest money
[6:46] so what i did was i kind of researched the system myself and i came up with the
[6:50] asian report and based on that agent report we print
[6:52] out statements and send them out to our customers um those that are 60 days
[6:57] prior to the um the date so if you say we're in april now anybody that's
[7:01] january has legals in january and back into 2015 because we converted software
[7:06] in 2015 we will send them an actual statement so
[7:10] we'll also reach out to them via email in the email my name is
[7:14] attached to the email so if they want to set up payment arrangements
[7:17] they can contact me and we'll keep those emails and verify that they're
[7:21] actually having those payment branches where they should be okay very good so
[7:24] then you're very well versed i will take it in as well in
[7:28] just clear the principles of being able to administer things that
[7:33] disseminate information to the council or to department heads as directed by
[7:37] the mayor different things like that operating
[7:39] programs what all operating programs of them as far as i care excel kosher
[7:47] word we pretty much use all of them um my main one is excel i use it the most
[7:54] because i'm sending out mostly spreadsheets to different areas and
[7:57] if i need to get in touch with the department heads i would send this
[8:00] question to them and kind of tell them this is what i
[8:03] need and this is what i'm trying to attack but
[8:05] mostly you could stay over time very good thank you so much
[8:22] um thank you for coming tonight thank you for having me um
[8:27] you know we all have strength and weaknesses so
[8:30] in our jobs uh that we currently uh perform
[8:33] but what do you consider one of your biggest weaknesses
[8:37] if you were chosen as the ironyoc card my biggest weakness i think we'll have
[8:42] based on the description of the job i don't really have a lot of resolution
[8:47] and ordinance experiences resolutions i do read them
[8:53] because i do have to incorporate them into i have to do a little voice entry
[8:57] for accounts payable i have to make sure that resolution has been
[9:00] signed and is in the minute book prior to me sending out those
[9:03] information just like with the city of iowa when they receive that
[9:06] road tax or their business privilege tax i have to key in
[9:10] their information that's due to the city of irondale i also have to include that
[9:14] resolution from the commission to let them know that
[9:17] this is okay for us to go ahead and pay this because this is not our
[9:20] money this is money that needs to be distributed out to those other
[9:23] municipalities but for my weakness that would be the one that i
[9:26] i really don't have a lot of experience in but like i said i'm
[9:30] a learner so i'm very very teachable so if i get in there and um
[9:34] get started on it i don't have a problem with reading up on it
[9:38] and just now let it focus out okay thank you thank you very much
[9:45] one question that i have is basically let's talk about a time where maybe it
[9:52] was a disagreement that you might have had with your
[9:55] supervisor or a peer how did you work out
[9:58] a negative confrontation when maybe you were right the other person was
[10:03] wrong and you had to find common ground okay um well first thing i usually do
[10:09] when that happens is we try to meet together not
[10:12] necessarily in a group setting because that's not the type of place to handle
[10:15] whatever confrontation we need to handle right then
[10:18] so we would get together and we would kind of talk about it and to see
[10:21] my point and see that person's point and if if they're right
[10:25] i have a problem with it being you know hey i'm sorry i've
[10:28] maybe read that wrong or i just interpreted that and
[10:31] it's fine it's not a problem but we didn't have a conflict where we just
[10:35] kind of didn't like each other anymore and just
[10:37] didn't talk to yourself because angela jobs you
[10:39] even though you may not get along you still have to work together to
[10:43] make one common ground thank you very much
[10:47] that comes right to the end of our time here uh is there
[10:50] any last follow-up questions for this young lady before we move
[10:53] to our next candidate
[10:58] i want to thank you again mister for being here thank you thank you
[11:01] in person thank you thank you it's been it's mutual beautiful i said i hear
[11:06] names but don't know who they are but it's great
[11:08] to put face to everyone now so i really appreciate you having me here today i
[11:12] hope it's good [Music]
[11:26] thank you very much for your time miss terry and uh
[11:30] i believe mr frank will see you out and everything
[11:33] and uh have a lovely evening once again thank you for your time all right thank
[11:40] you thank you
[11:54] absolutely
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[12:13] in there
[12:27] good evening how are you doing tonight good how are you perfect and what's your
[12:30] name my name is jackson
[12:34] all right perfect well thank you very much for joining us this is a 30-minute
[12:39] meeting with three candidates so we're assigning 10 minutes to each one
[12:42] there's four of us a full-person panel right now we're missing someone so
[12:46] what we will do is uh if you could just take two minutes just kind of talk about
[12:49] yourself and then we will have two minutes each
[12:51] to kind of ask you some questions we have your information in front of us
[12:55] so please explore yours so again my name is rude jackson and i'm
[13:01] a resident of birmingham i grew up in birmingham and
[13:04] went to school to age harvard high school
[13:07] there i was involved in the segment program which was science and
[13:10] engineering and also future business leaders of
[13:13] america and from there i went to college i
[13:17] pursued a degree in history as well as accounting and starting on a
[13:23] master's in public administration and from there i've been working in
[13:28] banking auditing and government
[13:47] in our discussion is that our treasurer when you fill in the
[13:50] old city clerk and treasurer the treasurer is the most important
[13:54] person uh within this newspaper because they are
[13:58] our chief financial officer and so what can you tell me about um your
[14:03] experience in calculating and or taking care of
[14:07] bond payments of a municipality you have experience in
[14:11] that and so can you please explain yes um so i do calculate and
[14:17] make the general measure injuries for our bond payments
[14:21] our bond payments are made according to an amortization schedule
[14:25] that was figured when the bond was originally issued
[14:30] and so each month that we do make those payments
[14:33] i apply the payments according to the amortization schedule
[14:37] and then at the end of the year i reconcile our geo accounts
[14:41] to the amortization schedule to make sure that the totals match
[14:45] very good do you have experience in preparing the municipality's annual
[14:50] budget i do have experience in working on the
[14:54] sales tax and business license portion of the annual budget
[14:59] of course i do monthly calculations as far as
[15:02] sales tax revenue and business license revenue
[15:05] and also quarterly and we send those projections
[15:09] to the revenue manager and the finance director
[15:12] and so those numbers are used in preparing any variances
[15:17] and any reports that are used to prepare the annual budget
[15:20] and comprehensive annual report all right one last question based on
[15:25] your experience what is the most challenging task for
[15:29] you when dealing with the public and how do you approach these challenges
[15:35] um so the most challenging task is just providing the answer the right answer to
[15:42] the question a lot of our taxpayers and citizens
[15:46] come in wanting a simple answer and we do have to find out what the complete
[15:50] picture is before we can answer them and provide
[15:54] assistance a lot of them come in wanting to start a business
[15:58] and they want to know how do i start a business do i just get a business
[16:01] license and there is a whole process that we
[16:04] have to take them through but of course i do provide information
[16:08] about the business license process of that and
[16:11] the sales taxes that applies to their business
[16:14] and giving them the information that they need to
[16:18] do what they need to do in their businesses
[16:30] um you have said this you are currently a city clerk
[16:43] and how does that interface with your city clerk's job
[16:50] so i recommend certain items to the city council to be placed on the agenda
[16:54] mainly dealing with abc licenses for the city as well as other
[17:00] information regarding the budget and i give that information to the city
[17:05] clerk and they prepare it for the agenda um we
[17:09] also have penalty waivers that if they are over a certain amount
[17:12] they have to be proven approved by the city and so that goes on
[17:16] the council agenda to be approved and there are certain
[17:20] other majors that have to be able to counsel very good uh and do you have any
[17:26] accounts receivable or any invoice or building experience in
[17:29] or any i guess
[17:37] and really the last question i have is as far as operating systems what
[17:41] operating systems are you proficient and familiar with
[17:45] in the job you're in now or even outside that
[17:48] well there are a lot of there may miss a few but um
[17:51] i'm familiar with oracle quickbooks we use munis
[17:59] microsoft dynamics and lotus notes um peoplesoft
[18:07] i can't think of all of them but those are the primary ones that i've used
[18:10] as well as microsoft office for
[18:20] thank you thank you jackson for for coming tonight uh taking the time
[18:25] to come and talk to us one of the questions i have is we all have
[18:30] strengths and weaknesses as we perform our daily duties but what
[18:34] would you consider one of your biggest weakness
[18:36] if you want to become a simpler idea um i think one of my big biggest weaknesses
[18:45] is that i'm very analytical and um some may think that i'm too
[18:50] analytical but i like to present all sides of the
[18:53] issue and provide as much information as possible
[18:57] so it might seem like information overload but i just like
[19:00] to be able to provide what is needed to fully understand the big picture of the
[19:07] problem okay i noticed on your resume you stated
[19:12] you're a certified revenue examiner so it's that um
[19:16] as far as the classes or or any uh conferences well not conferences but
[19:22] uh to be certified is this an annual
[19:26] recertification or every six months it's an annual recertification
[19:30] i have to take 40 hours of trouble and eight of those hours i take through the
[19:36] altus board and then the remaining hours i usually
[19:40] take to the alabama society of cpas and so i'm taking classes almost on a
[19:45] monthly basis to maintain my hours and there is a county
[19:50] so forgive my hatreds but you said cpa so you're served by cba i guess
[19:56] no i'm not a first-rate cpa but we can't take classes through
[20:04] that organization because they are a certified body
[20:07] okay um classes that are regarding your county
[20:11] or anything dealing with taxes um policy that will uh that meets the requirements
[20:18] for the cra certification okay okay
[20:22] that's all i have thank you sir just one question for me
[20:26] i see you can be a little over analytical i know the detriment that
[20:30] that comes up just bring to the table how give me um
[20:34] an example uh i'll leave the names out obviously
[20:38] but a time where you had to boil down a complicated
[20:42] potentially negative situation to either someone you worked with or possibly a
[20:46] citizen that was asking a question so a lot of times we have citizens who
[20:53] will come in and they've already started
[20:56] operating their business and they don't know where to start
[20:59] because they didn't obtain the proper licenses they didn't
[21:04] get the proper education and they didn't set up a sales tax
[21:09] account in most cases so what i have to do is
[21:13] just understand where they are find out what it is that they're doing in their
[21:18] business and then communicate with them what i
[21:20] think that they should do going forward making sure they get the business
[21:25] license they set up the tax account and they meet with the sba or other
[21:29] departments in the city that can help them
[21:32] and that usually will help resolve the problem are you guys going to do that
[21:36] process yes all right thank you very much
[21:40] one minute left for any follow-up questions mrs jackson i just want to let
[21:44] you know that i'm delighted to personally meet
[21:46] you finally and i want to thank you for your interest
[21:50] in filling this position thank you i too want to thank you for your time ms
[21:55] jackson and thank you for your interest in this position
[21:58] bless someone see you now
[22:24] um
[22:34] good evening how are you doing tonight good evening council members it's a
[22:38] pleasure
[22:44] we've got about 10 minutes here um and so and there are four of us we've got a
[22:47] gentleman that is missing so feel free to take about two minutes to
[22:51] describe yourself tell us a little bit about yourself and
[22:54] then we'll take about two minutes to ask you some follow-up questions
[22:56] okay um would i like to [Music]
[23:02] introduce myself on vanita brown i'd like you to know that i
[23:06] am a very driven person i think that i i
[23:12] lead from integrity i have
[23:18] extensive background with acting as a liaison between various
[23:24] departments
[23:27] and i also currently work as a senior accountant
[23:34] where i am responsible for
[23:37] [Music] bookkeeping also responsible for
[23:44] bank reconciliations
[23:48] making reports that we need to turn into the state every month
[23:55] i have experienced leading i have experienced um
[24:04] dealing with the public
[24:07] conflict resolution
[24:10] and if if you choose me for this position i
[24:16] believe that i would be a great fit because i am able to
[24:22] um i'm able to just uh i'm sorry i'm nervous
[24:30] i'm not able to um act with precision
[24:37] and my in any given duty that i'm i'm assigned to
[24:44] and overall i just i think that i would be a
[24:50] good fit because i'm able i'm ready
[24:54] and eager to learn new things and also bring the skills that i currently have
[25:02] to the city of irondale in this position and i guess that's it
[25:11] council on customer [Music]
[25:17] and i want to thank you for your interest in this position
[25:20] um we've done phone interviews and so i'm going to focus on the questions that
[25:25] i've asked of all the two prior candidates yes and
[25:29] that is your experience as because i'm looking
[25:33] at it for the treasurer you have you've given
[25:36] me information on city clerk the treasure is my concern here what is
[25:41] your experience in calculating and we're
[25:43] taking care of bond payments of the municipality
[25:47] if you have it can you please explain what you do
[25:50] in bond payments
[25:54] we [Music]
[26:03] i have experience in cash management i also have experience
[26:10] in um receiving payments from municipalities
[26:17] and also giving payments to municipalities
[26:20] as far as bond payments in particular i don't have
[26:27] that kind of experience
[26:31] do you have experience in preparing the municipality's annual budget
[26:49] we're all just so real quickly um you did say that you worked some
[26:55] with i guess receivables in some of the cities and then also
[26:59] payment processing for those correct that's correct okay
[27:02] and how does that dovetail into any administrative or clerical leads
[27:07] which you know as the treasurer as councilmember taylor is alluding to
[27:11] that's going to be a very important part of the position
[27:14] but the city clerk part of being able to disseminate the information
[27:18] what operating systems or tools you have in that realm or is that
[27:23] something you rely more on a team today we do work as a team and in the tax
[27:29] collector's office but we do utilize the
[27:34] earring system and [Music]
[27:38] what that does what we what it does is we'll um
[27:41] enter the information into the e-ring system
[27:45] and it will determine what the millage for each parcel is it really
[27:51] breaks down all of the calculations for us
[27:56] so that we're able to pull that information um
[28:02] after we're able to navigate once we're able to navigate through the software
[28:06] we're able to pull up that information with ease okay so you're fairly
[28:12] comfortable using several different platforms of
[28:16] information dissemination and also calculation or retention
[28:19] that's correct because the we use e-ring there's also munis that we use
[28:26] we also i have experience in some of the gis mapping software
[28:34] that's used at the city as well all of that information we use
[28:38] to get whatever the situation is we use it
[28:42] to get an overall understanding of the big picture and
[28:48] we're also able to get
[28:52] disseminate that information into various reports that need to be sent to
[28:57] the state every month and the reader as well
[29:04] yes good evening thank you for coming tonight thank you for having me
[29:12] the question i have is you know we all have a
[29:15] strength and weaknesses when it comes to performing our jobs
[29:19] what would be one of your biggest challenges
[29:22] or weakness if you were chosen as the city clerk here in ireland
[29:30] one of the things that i have been working on
[29:34] is i tend to be an introvert speaking in front of people may
[29:41] sometimes come off a little a little
[29:46] um challenging for me i understand councilman
[29:49] we're just right but we're just regular people
[29:52] we are we are but one of the things that um i have done is i've taken
[29:59] speech classes to help me um
[30:05] to help me speak better and portray my thoughts better to
[30:10] everyone and also i've joined the toastmasters my local toastmasters
[30:15] club that i'm able to speak better and feel more comfortable speaking in
[30:21] front of an audience regardless of what the
[30:24] subject is how long are you man i've i've been in
[30:29] it for a year now okay yes birmingham city classic
[30:33] massachusetts manchester um
[30:36] [Music]
[30:41] so that would probably um be my biggest challenge
[30:45] um it's something that i continue to work on
[30:50] vigorously so that it isn't a challenge for me anymore
[30:56] well thank you and greetings and thank you for your interest in the position in
[31:01] your time tonight one question uh you mentioned conflict
[31:05] resolution previously um can you kind of take us
[31:08] through a time maybe where you had to enter into
[31:12] some conflict resolution with either maybe a citizen that was
[31:16] going through some things or possibly a supervisor or work here
[31:20] and how that was handled and resolved sure
[31:24] um there was a particular instance in the department that i
[31:31] currently work in and there is a particular way
[31:36] that my new supervisor wanted me to a new a particular format that my
[31:43] supervisor wanted me to turn in for bank
[31:47] reconciliation and it was
[31:52] it wasn't um it wasn't a hard thing to do
[31:57] but it would have at the time we were at the height of our tax collection
[32:03] season and some of the things that she wanted me to do
[32:08] would have been it would have been more time consuming than it normally was
[32:12] what i did was simply get a make a copy and of the format of how
[32:19] she wanted me to do it as opposed to what it is now
[32:23] and also explain how that what changes that need to be made
[32:29] and how that would affect my time management
[32:32] with other deadlines that needed to be met
[32:35] so after speaking with her about it we were able to come up with a
[32:41] resolution where we can incorporate some of the ideas
[32:44] that she had wanted me to incorporate into
[32:48] performance as well as keeping without me having to spend a lot
[32:54] of time doing it so and that well that's the charge with
[32:58] the supervisor there's been times when i worked in the
[33:02] tag unit with jefferson county where we would
[33:06] have specific different customers that may
[33:10] come in and they don't realize that they have a fine
[33:13] that they have to pay in order to get their tenants they may
[33:16] get really upset and they're they're they're wanting to take
[33:22] it out on the cashier that's in front of them and the
[33:26] cashier is really just doing their job telling
[33:29] them this is i can't take your payment unless you pay the whole thing
[33:33] there's been plenty of times that i've had to come and just explain it to the
[33:37] customer again just to let them know it really
[33:41] isn't anything that we can do but we want to help you in every way
[33:45] that we can so after explaining to them and also making
[33:51] suggestions how they can go about resolving the
[33:54] issue and even going as far sometimes as to
[33:58] even like speak with someone in montgomery to
[34:01] get them to maybe extend the payment period so that
[34:06] this person can actually save money to make a payment without
[34:10] having to incur further fines and that kind of thing so
[34:16] i've done that many times and it really helps when
[34:20] the customer knows that they're being hurt
[34:23] and also that you genuinely want to help them
[34:27] you're not just passing them along or just saying that
[34:30] we can't do anything for you they really want to know that you're there for them
[34:34] and and you're listening to them and you want to help them
[34:39] and most times when i have gone through that process
[34:43] we've had a smooth transition you know we've made it so that they can come back
[34:47] and make their payments and get their tags so that they can drive to
[34:51] work and continue life as it was before perfect thank you very
[34:56] much you're welcome uh before you let the
[34:58] show let you go is there any final follow-up question
[35:00] no questions but thank you so much mrs brown for coming and for your interest
[35:05] thank you so much thank you very much
[35:28] um that concludes our our workstation for
[35:33] the evening we're now going to go ahead and transition into our special call
[35:36] council meeting uh councilman boxing if you're not going
[35:38] to open this up
[35:41] everybody would join me for a moment we thank you that you're allowed us to be
[35:45] here thank you that you've provided a pathway
[35:47] to join you again help us to understand and know the
[35:51] things you have us to do helps to serve the citizens here's the
[35:54] best of our ability give us your ability to do it what
[36:04] [Music] for which it stands one nation under god
[36:10] indivisible with liberty and justice for all
[36:16] thank you sir we'll go ahead and go into roblox
[36:23] council wilson and myself president john mullen is absent this evening
[36:28] all right so our one and only uh agenda item
[36:31] tonight uh basically the members of the city council
[36:34] the city needs to convene an executive session for two purposes
[36:38] number one to discuss with the attorney the legal ramifications of legal
[36:43] of and legal options for controversies not yet being
[36:47] litigated but immediately likely to be litigated
[36:50] number two to discuss preliminary negotiations
[36:53] involving matters of training or commerce in which the city of irondale
[36:57] is in competition with other governmental entities in
[37:01] alabama and thirdly to discuss the consideration the city
[37:04] council is willing to offer or accept when considering the purchase sale
[37:09] exchange lease or market value of real property ms danielson has
[37:13] provided the city council with a written statement
[37:16] that executive session is appropriate under alabama code
[37:20] 36-25a 83 and 8-7 to discuss pending litigation
[37:26] therefore i need a motion to go into executive session
[37:30] i'll make a motion to go into exactly session
[37:33] wilson has made a all right we have a second
[37:37] mr pennington uh please conduct a roll call vote of this motion and record
[37:41] each councilman's council person's vote
[37:47] council owned bear yes councilman box yes
[37:50] joshua wilson yes and myself yes thank you
[37:54] those presidents are advised that this body has voted to enter into executive
[37:58] session as required by law any deliberation
[38:01] between the members of this body relating to these issues will be
[38:04] conducted in an open meeting this council will not reconvene
[38:08] after this executive session the city council will now enter executive session
[38:16] thank you