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[0:02] All right, it's going. Oh, we're going. Oh, was all that lemonade stand on the record? We said worst. I'm sure. All right. Well, let's get going. We'll begin with the work meeting. Let's see.
[0:25] All right. Work meeting. Steve, do you have anything report on? I don't. I forgot to reach out, but we do have some items that'll come up later that.
[0:35] Okay. Awesome. I've got a couple things. Our fire department, obviously, as we all know,
[0:43] has been really busy. So a big shout out to them and also to the police. Some of our police
[0:50] officers have been doing some firefighting as well while they've been waiting for the red
[0:54] trucks. So, grateful for them. Chief Pearson said that they just promoted two
[1:02] captains, Amy Smith and Alex Broadband, so that's pretty awesome, that's
[1:07] exciting. And they've just been really busy with, was it four fires?
[1:15] four fires in seven days. In seven eight days so pretty pretty impressive. And then in talking to
[1:25] chief obviously they've been super busy as well. One thing that's kind of cool is our city police
[1:32] department received this award from Lexi pulled. Is that how they say it? Perfect. Thank you. I appreciate
[1:46] for a policy readiness and they're honored for that so that's pretty exciting.
[1:51] Oh, I just showed it to the audience, but not to the council.
[1:55] Who's like to be bold?
[1:56] Is she the dance reporter?
[2:01] That's a policy software.
[2:04] Like the polls are a policy software, so the recognition is for the employees doing the training
[2:10] and also for Tom making sure that things are up today in the policies to make sure that our residents are protected
[2:16] and the buses are sitting there. They chose it or that's being acronym for their name.
[2:22] And also, we'll move on. Also, the police, they have hired Dame Glager to the police force, which is exciting.
[2:33] Dame brings 13 years of experience. He was over in Cedar with the Cedar Police Department
[2:38] And obviously grew up here, so that's great to have him back.
[2:43] And then, yeah, but yeah, super busy.
[2:48] They're doing a great job.
[2:50] So, thank you, Chief.
[2:53] Boy, anything?
[2:55] The beauty board has not been that short of the county.
[3:01] The state of the group I want.
[3:05] It's four letters.
[3:07] I can come up with Lexi pole, though.
[3:08] Yeah, you've got that with them.
[3:11] I'm trying to think.
[3:15] Economic development one, boy.
[3:18] That's 250,000.
[3:20] We manage the economic development board.
[3:27] Yeah, everybody's stuff would like to fall in their head damage.
[3:34] Okay, awesome.
[3:36] Welcome.
[3:37] That's good to have you.
[3:38] Anything to report on?
[3:40] Layers on the board.
[3:41] You're good.
[3:42] Okay.
[3:42] Arlen?
[3:44] Yeah.
[3:45] Plenty of commission.
[3:46] They really talk about one of their
[3:48] own changes tonight.
[3:51] And they've been discussing several of the things
[3:54] on important changes.
[3:56] Different capital.
[3:57] 15, 19 and four.
[3:59] Okay.
[4:00] So we'll, we've had some developers
[4:06] It was quite a long discussion here tonight, and I think we'll have to work through it.
[4:12] That's all I have.
[4:13] Perfect.
[4:14] All right.
[4:15] Thank you.
[4:18] All right.
[4:20] Let's use the devil.
[4:22] We're going to call the meeting to order now.
[4:24] It is 637.
[4:28] In attendance, Arlene Chamberlain, Peter Banks, Boyd Corey, myself, Chris Eaton, and
[4:33] And Steve Schrogg, the mayor is excused tonight.
[4:37] Janae Chatterleys here with us, Celeste Kram,
[4:40] and Kyler Ludwig, so thank you for being here.
[4:43] We will begin.
[4:46] Steve, would you lead us in the pledge
[4:48] and then ask you beforehand?
[4:49] And then after the pledge, we have Marsha Meyer
[4:53] with the Interfaith organization here,
[4:56] and she will offer the prayer.
[5:00] There were police stamps, all of me in the pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States
[5:08] of America and to the Republic for which it stands when a nation under God is individual
[5:16] with liberty and justice for all, and if you don't mind if you come to the mic.
[5:23] Again, it's an honor, thank you for the opportunity, and Matt, last time I prayed in this building
[5:29] We've got three inches of rain, and we've waited this long to have you back.
[5:36] Yeah, it's just for the flag day.
[5:38] We have a lovely celebration on flag day.
[5:41] So again, thank you for the opportunity.
[5:43] And the interfaith alliance is new and Bonnie Haycock.
[5:48] It's the one that's kind of starting it up.
[5:50] And we are thrilled as the United Church of Canada for knowing yet to be a part of that.
[5:55] And yeah, let's take a minute and we'll pray together.
[6:00] Oh, Heavenly Father, Creator God, we just thank you for the
[6:03] opportunity to make a difference in the world.
[6:06] We're grateful that those gathered this evening as city council members,
[6:11] and city employees, and just everyone that has said yes,
[6:16] to share their gifts of administrating and leading and organizing,
[6:21] and just in hearing the announcements there's a lot going on.
[6:25] in this beautiful town of Canaan.
[6:28] We are always grateful for our first responders,
[6:31] whether they be police or firemen,
[6:33] and we're just grateful for this community.
[6:37] And we know that you were waiting for us
[6:38] when we walked in the door tonight
[6:40] and you will last the time together,
[6:42] you will guide our conversation,
[6:44] and indeed help us come up with the right responses.
[6:48] At this time of year, we're grateful for our teachers,
[6:51] some of our administrators who are getting a break this summer,
[6:53] We're already praying for the children in the schools,
[6:57] as they'll begin soon to go back to school.
[7:01] In the name of Jesus, in West Wyoming spirit,
[7:04] we say, amen.
[7:07] Amen.
[7:08] Thank you so much.
[7:09] You're welcome.
[7:10] And obviously you're welcome to stay,
[7:12] or if you can exit if you need to,
[7:15] but you're welcome to stay.
[7:16] So before I'm in the ministry,
[7:18] I worked for the state legislature in Colorado,
[7:21] so I'm all about this.
[7:22] You're all for it. Awesome.
[7:24] I'll start taking notes.
[7:27] You know, you may not want to take all the notes.
[7:31] But thank you, that was great.
[7:32] All right, well you will move on.
[7:34] The next item on our agenda is a public comment period.
[7:37] This is where we invite members of the public to come up
[7:39] and to address the council.
[7:41] We ask you to keep your comments to three minutes
[7:43] and follow the rules of civility outlined in canab ordinance
[7:46] 3-6-0-1.
[7:49] Now is your time.
[7:50] We
[7:54] can probably move on. Thank you. We will move on to the next item, our consent items.
[8:01] We've got our minutes from our previous meeting and then our accounts payable.
[8:07] Are there any questions regarding our consent items?
[8:12] If there are no questions, I will entertain a motion.
[8:15] I'll make a motion to approve the consent items and the accounts payable.
[8:22] All right, I have a motion to have a second.
[8:24] I have a second.
[8:25] Questions?
[8:27] Seeing none.
[8:28] All in favor?
[8:29] All right.
[8:30] All right.
[8:31] The next item on the agenda is an action item.
[8:33] So, five days.
[8:35] Oh, did I skip?
[8:37] No worries.
[8:38] Oh, that will be brief.
[8:39] Yes, I'm glad you brought me back to that one.
[8:42] I did skip that one.
[8:43] Yeah, employee recognition.
[8:45] Caller.
[8:46] This is, I got an email about a month ago
[8:51] about an employee who had received a new certification and we just wanted to call that to attention to the community and it's less, it's less cram.
[9:03] She's a certified municipal court at CMC which comes with a lot of training and it's part of a professional organization and we just wanted to take time in this meeting where she serves as a recorder to recognize her for getting that CMC certification.
[9:18] And it's kind of a big deal in the court world.
[9:23] Awesome.
[9:24] Well, congratulations.
[9:26] Seriously.
[9:26] Thank you.
[9:27] That's great.
[9:28] Yeah, I really apologize for.
[9:30] No, no worries.
[9:31] It was...
[9:32] We just want to make sure to publicly read out.
[9:35] So let's forget that.
[9:36] It takes a bit of time to go through all the trainings.
[9:41] But...
[9:41] Yeah.
[9:43] Oh.
[9:44] Yeah.
[9:45] Thank you.
[9:45] Congrats.
[9:49] all of our staff does. All right, let's jump to 7a. It's a discussion and consideration
[9:56] of an ordinance approving a zone change for parcel K19-12A annex located west of the
[10:01] future A's hardware development, approximately 50 west of 137. I think Jenny will turn that
[10:09] to you. Yeah, so this is a request for a zone change. The applicant's agent is Iron Rock
[10:15] engineering. They would like to change the zone from C2 to an RR1, which C2 is commercial
[10:22] so they're requesting to go to a rural residential, which is a minimum of one acre. The
[10:28] owners requesting the zone change to allow for a residential minor subdivision of three
[10:32] lots. This property is 5.37 acres. It's currently vacant. Surrounding the zoning designations
[10:42] in the density designations are typically RA and C2, they're on the screen right there,
[10:49] but it is a RA and C2 area.
[10:53] And the density designation is medium density residential, general commercial and agriculture
[11:01] is what our future land use designates that area as.
[11:06] We,
[11:10] as usual, through our staff reports, we will have the general plan and zoning map
[11:13] analysis in there, which just comes out of our ordinances and talks about how we encourage
[11:18] and provide proper transitions between zones and intensity of uses and promotes orderly growth,
[11:26] this kind of a summary.
[11:28] The public hearing was held on July 7th, and we had one—sorry,
[11:43] think I'm—I
[11:44] I know what my problem is. Sorry. I've we had one comment on it. Yeah, it was. I'm just in my planning
[11:51] commission staff report, not my city council one. So it's not a here. Yeah, it was Mr. Healy got up
[11:56] and asked some questions about the requirement for sewer there and the road requirements, but that was
[12:03] it was kind of just a general inquiry on what would be required if the property is minor has the
[12:09] or subdivision.
[12:12] So that they did discuss also the road in regards because right now you
[12:18] can't see that there's an easement on that front property so planning commission did
[12:22] ask about that as well. There's a 42 foot easement across where Ace Hardware is currently being
[12:31] built and we'll go to that property so it's not a landlock property like it appears to be.
[12:37] But other than that, there wasn't really much more discussion.
[12:41] It was a positive recommendation for the zone change to RR1 from planning commission.
[12:48] All right. Thank you, Janae. Any questions to city staff?
[12:55] I have, so yeah, would you say the acre was on that?
[12:58] 5.37 acres.
[13:01] Three. Yeah.
[13:07] Yeah, it was a couple of lots were just over an acre like just barely over the other one was just under two acres if I remember
[13:17] that because we have that was one of the corrections with the minor subdivision is it's not a city street it right now it's just an
[13:29] easement so it needs to be dedicated either as a private lane or a private road or a public road
[13:37] which because of the size the 42 foot easement that's going through there it most likely will not
[13:43] be a public road it will probably be a private road or a private lane yeah it's on the side of
[13:54] parking lot. Yeah. But it kind of goes. It has an entrance into the parking lot. Yes, yes. Yeah,
[14:02] like it like comes in and then continues to be used as the entrance to a hardware as well.
[14:09] Yeah, both. Yeah. Well, and then there's an entrance off the highway to to a hardware as well.
[14:15] Yeah, they have two entrances. So one is off that side street. Yeah. And then the other one's
[14:20] by way, correct?
[14:27] Any other questions?
[14:28] I want to ask the federal question.
[14:30] You're probably going to tell me we've changed the ordinance.
[14:33] Now I forgot like I care about the acronyms.
[14:36] When we're commercial, can't we already build this exact development
[14:40] as is?
[14:42] We just changed that just recently.
[14:44] That's what I thought.
[14:45] Exactly.
[14:45] We have those discussions for a bit.
[14:48] You may have actually been out of town when we did do the change,
[14:51] but we took it so you couldn't do residential inter-commercials or multi-family unless it was second stories.
[15:00] In C1, and then those extended areas, but this isn't one of those extended areas either. Yeah, but that was part of it. And then, yeah. He usually
[15:10] commerce that covered everything, so I was going, why are we asking for remote change? Yeah, it was changed in May of last year.
[15:17] And I'm sorry, I know you said it, but what was the future plan? What do we have it? It's designated as medium density
[15:29] residential and general commercial and agriculture. And the RR1 is a very low
[15:37] density residential. Yes, so it would be lower than the medium density.
[15:42] Okay, thank you. Okay, any other questions? This is just for the zone chain.
[15:51] Correct. Yeah, nothing with the the flat or anything. If there is no more
[15:59] questions or comments or discussion, I will entertain a motion if there is one.
[16:08] We approve the zone change from C to R1 on the parcel K, dash 19, dash 12a at it, and the
[16:16] dot coordinates 0, 7, dash 1, dash 26, oh, based on the findings and conditions outlined in
[16:26] the staff report, zone 26, 0, 0, 7.
[16:30] Okay, I have a motion. Is there a second?
[16:32] I'll second it.
[16:34] Okay, questions, discussion?
[16:36] Seeing them, let's roll call.
[16:37] Steve, let's start with you.
[16:39] Aye.
[16:40] Aye.
[16:40] Yeah, aye.
[16:42] All right, that is approved.
[16:44] Let's move on to item B7B.
[16:47] Discussion, consideration of approving
[16:49] the purchase of playground equipment
[16:51] through the Utah door recreational grant.
[16:54] Kyler, I think I'll go to you on this.
[16:55] Yes, so sterling with the recreation department
[16:59] been working on this grant. We presented this to you in the past. What I want to show is just
[17:06] what we're looking to purchase and get those approved tonight so that we can move forward with
[17:09] the purchase of the parking statement. The first ones is zip line that we're looking at for the park.
[17:17] This would go in the area that's typically used right now for volleyball because that's not being
[17:22] well utilized. We felt like having something like this would freshen up and give a little more
[17:28] space for kids to participate in play, and you'll see that we're trying to use
[17:33] these more bucket seats that are more accommodating to people of different needs
[17:37] and abilities. So that's one of the things we've really pushed for in this park
[17:42] space, and then we also have this is a wheelchair marigold round that also is
[17:50] usable for other children, and so it's allowing for that interactive play. This is
[17:55] This is a merry-go-round that we're looking for in that circle that we have.
[18:01] And then what we'll have to do is we'll put this in that circle and it'll have some kind of rubber around it to allow it to be zero entry.
[18:10] And you can't just have concrete on the outside, so they'll be smaller than that circle, but that's the area we're looking at putting that.
[18:18] And it'll fit in there if the kid goes flying out right there.
[18:21] get to concrete. They'll hit the river.
[18:23] Is this the style that can go on the limited speeds?
[18:26] Do you have one? No.
[18:28] They do have all the governs in them.
[18:30] That's good. They'll stop you from pushing too fast.
[18:32] They have a whole bunch of people.
[18:37] And then the other thing is these ADA swings.
[18:41] We're looking to purchase, which, like I said,
[18:44] is to add, or we'll probably switch around our swings
[18:47] just a little bit to accommodate to allow this to be there.
[18:49] for children of different abilities as well and like I said this is funded 70%
[18:56] through grants and then 30% will fund through some of our tax revenues.
[19:02] Perfect. Thank you, Father. Any questions for C-Step on this?
[19:09] Is this eligible for impact fees?
[19:16] So your zip line you could use impact fees for because it's probably more considered a new asset the sweet
[19:23] Replace actually probably the merry go around week we could also use impact fees because of where we're out with parks and
[19:29] Pets fees. I think we're pretty well spent on what we have right now. It would be eligible if you wanted to have it go through that
[19:38] And that could be something that you guys want to direct it to be done through impact these
[19:44] our match. We could do that. Right now I think we're presenting to use the RAP tax which is a
[19:51] recreation arts and parks tax. It's a sales tax that goes on goods that is dedicated to recreation arts
[19:58] parks.
[20:01] And we get about $130 or $140,000 a year that we can in that tax. That's a great question.
[20:11] Any other questions, comments, concerns?
[20:15] I was just hoping the zip line was bigger.
[20:20] We can push it.
[20:22] We can move it.
[20:25] Go from the top of the hill down to the park.
[20:28] Oh, yeah.
[20:28] Yeah.
[20:31] Your total was, what was it?
[20:33] It was just under a hundred, wasn't it?
[20:35] No, under 50.
[20:36] So I'll go to the first slide.
[20:37] So the grants can be about $49 or $50,000 and then we've got $20,000 in total, it's like $75,000.
[20:48] Yeah.
[20:48] Yeah.
[20:49] But I think it's a really great idea.
[20:53] I think it's great.
[20:54] We have a lot of different abilities in our community.
[20:58] And to put in some stuff that everyone can participate in, I think, so win.
[21:02] And where we can do that match in 30% I think is great.
[21:09] Okay, so good work to you guys add to sternly and if you guys want to authorize the purchase
[21:14] that's important.
[21:15] Yeah, yeah.
[21:15] So if there is a motion to authorize that purchase, I'm ready.
[21:22] I'll make a motion that we authorize staff to proceed with the purchase of the zip line.
[21:26] Mary go around in the ADA swings.
[21:28] All right.
[21:29] Do we have a second on that?
[21:31] No second.
[21:32] Questions?
[21:33] Seeing none.
[21:33] All in favor?
[21:34] Hi.
[21:35] All right.
[21:36] The next item on the agenda is a discussion and consideration of the purchase of a sand filtration equipment replacement for the Canav city pool
[21:44] Real quick remember two weeks ago
[21:47] I gave a plug for my son during public comment remember that you wanted a hot tub
[21:54] Well, he he wanted to come back. He didn't think I did my job and now he wants to ask for a new slide
[22:03] So he's kind of getting needy, so I told him next time he's got to come and get
[22:08] in front of everybody. There's a really good chance my nine-year-olds coming in
[22:13] here. So everyone, fair warning. He's applying to the pool, that's what we're doing. So
[22:19] anyway, continue, Tyler. The sand filter of the pool is having some difficulties when we
[22:29] We're going to be able to backwash it.
[22:30] It's causing sand to go back into the pool.
[22:33] And they're managing this year, they will free vacuum it up and get that sand collected.
[22:40] But the parts to fix that sand filter are no longer available because the business is
[22:45] out.
[22:46] They're out of business now.
[22:47] And the threading of the parts, it doesn't match.
[22:51] And then the other problem with trying to put something in aftermarket is we lose out
[22:56] certifications for its ability to properly clean, which is required through state code.
[23:02] So it leaves us in this position of having to purchase a new sand filter.
[23:09] What we're looking at, we had a few different options.
[23:13] There's sand filters and there's different media filters, and that being more expensive.
[23:18] Because this is something we want to get ordered, there's some back time, and it's going
[23:23] going to take some time before it's able to get here.
[23:26] We're hoping to have the council authorize the purchase
[23:29] up to $86,000 for the sand filter.
[23:33] But we're working right now to get something cheaper.
[23:37] Right now, we are using state contract
[23:39] to get some of this pricing.
[23:41] But we think that there might be a few other options
[23:43] to some other providers outside of state contract.
[23:47] So our hope is to get $86,000 allowed for staff to spend, but we're hoping to spend closer to 50 in this process of replacing it.
[24:00] Okay, perfect question, timing.
[24:06] Yeah, so we're not looking, we're going to have it kind of function as is with the problem throughout the end of the season.
[24:13] Okay, it won't be until after the pool season that we look at doing the replacement.
[24:17] Okay, so we have some time to account for the money.
[24:21] Yeah, and so we put money into account for a reserve fund every year.
[24:25] So that won't come from that.
[24:27] It's already budgeted right before those expenditures.
[24:31] Correct.
[24:32] And then you would do it after the pool closes in the office season.
[24:35] It's kind of what you're thinking.
[24:37] Yeah, okay.
[24:37] Because if you close that pool right now, he for sure would be in you.
[24:41] One of the challenges that Sam filter, I was talking with the Council Member Chamberlain today.
[24:48] We actually think that it maybe was, the building was built off for that filter because it's fairly large.
[24:54] Really?
[24:55] And so it's going to be a project to pull that seal and filter out.
[25:00] And so we prefer to do, maybe after this season, where it's not going to be so much of an issue because we'll probably have to bring it cranking in or while maybe even chop it up.
[25:13] Yeah, yeah. It'll be a process, or just leave it.
[25:20] We need space for the new one.
[25:24] Yeah. Okay, any other questions or discussion?
[25:29] I have one that's going to put the title on the spot. I don't need to do this. Sorry.
[25:33] What's the monthly operating loss the pool right now?
[25:38] The monthly operating loss went until we're
[25:44] losing... I'm not gonna give you an exact number
[25:49] because there's a lot of numbers in my head.
[25:52] It's probably around $300,000 of loss at the pool.
[25:56] And that's with our debt payment.
[25:58] Super debt payment on that pool.
[25:59] That was my next question.
[26:00] What's our monthly debt?
[26:01] I think we pay about $125,000 for the data on that data.
[26:10] Most of the loss is that debt.
[26:14] If I understood that, we put $300,000 in the line or three years ago,
[26:18] but we need a new line, which is about to get between $7,800,000.
[26:24] So we replaced a big chunk of the line or a year or two ago.
[26:29] Yeah. The hope is that's a 1520 here. So fix. You're not having to replace those.
[26:37] Then we did, I think, four heaters in a row, four different summers. Yeah, we have two heaters that we replaced.
[26:44] So I think there's a heater we replaced, one year, the liner that we replaced.
[26:51] We've got a building that's cracking and sliding on purple clay, the
[26:57] so roughly 5,600,000
[26:59] a year, 10% of the budget, and how much population use it, again, roughly 6% is the last
[27:05] number I have.
[27:07] You know, so I don't know if we have a good read on the pop, what percentage of the population
[27:12] uses it?
[27:13] I know this is going to make me really have a pop.
[27:15] I mean they have.
[27:16] I'm asking it just to look, I want everybody to follow my reasoning.
[27:18] Yeah, every day, well over 100 people there at the pool.
[27:25] We have 160 kids who are in swim team.
[27:28] We have quite a few on.
[27:32] So from swim team from 8 a.m. until noon, you have swim team and lap swim that are taking place.
[27:37] Oh, and I'm trying to distract.
[27:39] I am trying to distract.
[27:41] And the good it does here.
[27:42] I'm literally looking at this completely from a logical business point of view of what is constant and what the usage is.
[27:48] I mean, if you had 400 people there a day, that's still less than 10% of the canal population.
[27:52] It's 5,500 to proxway, so at 350 years of the day, you're probably 67% of the population
[27:58] used to go in there to give the time.
[28:01] And yet, it's almost 10% of the total city budget of 6.4 million, and it does seem like a
[28:07] whole week for money, too.
[28:09] And I know everybody loves them, and I know they're filled with it, and I know that it's great
[28:12] for the community, and I know kids want them to hop to the mortgage lives.
[28:15] And but there's a reason businesses don't put these in small communities because you can only afford to lose money for so long
[28:21] I have to cut ties with the business that is losing me a lot of money
[28:25] So I've been there done this as a private business, but as a city it seems like we love to get behind these things to keep spending
[28:31] The taxpayer money
[28:33] To keep things alive is the only way they're saying alive is because we've decided how people's money is going to get spent
[28:38] And frankly as a taxpayer I'd other decide how my own money is going to get spent and you can leave it in my bank account
[28:44] So, I just wanted to really strongly have that set out loud in the meeting.
[28:49] I wanted to go through my logic and my reasoning kind of that statement.
[28:53] I'm not anti-cool.
[28:54] I'm not anti-year kid.
[28:56] I think he's one of the cutest boys out there.
[28:57] Oh, trust me.
[28:58] And I love that he wants me to come in here.
[29:00] But it's just there does come a point where we get in these, it's happened up north like
[29:08] crazy.
[29:08] you know now they got to have more hiking trails and they're going to take 650 acres and I don't
[29:14] remember the name of the city and I'm going to create a new park and always it's just it's it's
[29:19] neat it's great but 6% of the population usually end up using those specialized facilities just like
[29:27] I take my grandkids to the park all the time I absolutely love merchandise and everything but I just
[29:34] I can't sit here in a really down year, at least we are totally all my business
[29:40] operations are very deeply in tourism because that's what's here and I see all
[29:44] of the people I sell to struggling this year, all of them, all the restaurants, all
[29:49] the motels, all the Airbnb's and that's why and yet do we react to that and realize
[29:56] that things are not like they were when people were going in here.
[30:00] So I've set my piece and I'll let it go with that. That's it. No. I wasn't even trying to make a point or push, but I just wanted to say it might be. Just just some clarifications. The pools, but it's separate from the general fund. So it's not included within that six million. It's in a separate recreation fund is where we keep the pool. Then one thing I was saying is you probably have 160 people from eight to noon, showing up and then probably around two.
[30:29] 200, one to 200 people spend on the day throughout the rest of the day.
[30:34] There's some days that are higher.
[30:36] We live a few free days.
[30:37] Yeah.
[30:38] Well, 300, 400 people shall love.
[30:41] I just speak more on my point.
[30:42] Even though those people show up paying to be there for the day and buying season passes
[30:46] every day, just the cost of labor, the electricity to eat it, this filter, everything.
[30:53] We lose money every day that it's open.
[30:55] And don't get me wrong.
[30:56] I'm not against community services.
[30:57] I'm not trying to be up here and tell anybody I'm anti-pulled.
[31:01] I just think that as governments, I'm seeing this at Leaks and Towns, Leak and Town meetings,
[31:09] more and more everybody wants to provide more services for the public and all of it and
[31:14] in our packs of increase from 22-23% of it, I'm almost 40 in the United States and I've been
[31:21] a little higher in some areas of the country.
[31:24] And I just think if I don't have this conversation out loud at the night, I'm going to sit there
[31:28] and say, you know, I really should have a police said, this is what we're looking at when
[31:32] we make this decision.
[31:34] I'm probably going to vote for it.
[31:35] I'm not up here trying to tell you that.
[31:37] But I do think that being up front, let everybody realize this is where it's at.
[31:42] This is how we see it.
[31:44] Is it a valuable service?
[31:47] If Chris's kid could not swim, I would literally feel like it's really bad, really, really.
[31:52] All these ones in the Creek Plane.
[31:54] You know, and my green horse.
[31:55] But you see what I'm trying to say.
[31:56] Right now, the rest of the board's
[31:58] little bit there's the itchy bug is.
[32:00] That's good for them.
[32:00] The itchy bug.
[32:01] And I look at that reservoir.
[32:03] I love walking around that thing.
[32:05] I think that was such a huge ad to this community.
[32:08] I've started trying to walk around a two or three times a week
[32:10] when I'm feeling okay.
[32:12] And just seeing the different ducks that come in and their water
[32:14] goes up and down, a number of people on the beach.
[32:17] But again, even if it's a separate fund,
[32:22] Even if it's a separate fund, it's still coming from the people.
[32:26] So, I just want everybody to have a clear idea when the pool's open,
[32:32] where your taxes are paying to keep it there.
[32:35] I think that's valid, boy.
[32:38] I just like that.
[32:39] When I was growing up, we didn't have a pool.
[32:41] And we had to go beg hotels.
[32:44] And sometimes they would have allowed to do things
[32:59] I just want you to know that having grown up here, too, that after midnight, you don't have to ask them.
[33:05] Well, boy, then you have to run from Chief Grant.
[33:09] No, Chief Grant and I are, what does it mean, kind of the same?
[33:12] He's working temporary.
[33:14] Chief Grant could write a fight before I could.
[33:18] He may have taken me to those groups.
[33:19] No.
[33:23] No, I think your comments are valid and important.
[33:27] I know that this council for years, we've debated back and forth on this.
[33:32] we've debated on the cost. Obviously like it was thrown out we fill it with
[33:38] concrete and call it a day right multiple times. I'm not advocating that here.
[33:43] I could have said let's turn the building into sand and use it to fill up the
[33:48] pool would be done. But it's not what I'm saying. But I think to avoid when we've
[33:53] done a lot of the city polls and said what does the community want? The pool is
[34:00] right there at the top. Now, a lot of them are pushing for an indoor pool. I can get emails
[34:06] and calls. You guys all do too. Obviously, we can't afford that. We can't fund that. To build
[34:12] a new pool is astronomical. And so, these band-aids, even though they hurt and they suck, it's keeping us
[34:23] operational for the community. And I will say the numbers of how many are going to the pool.
[34:29] I think a lot of times we look at the individuals at the pool.
[34:34] My kids go to the pool all the time.
[34:36] Does that benefit me for sure?
[34:39] And I don't go to the pool much.
[34:41] My kids go to the park a lot and swing on the swings and the slides.
[34:46] I don't anymore, you know, I grow and pass it.
[34:49] If we get a zipline.
[34:50] We get a zipline.
[34:51] We get a zipline.
[34:52] But I'm just saying, so even though it doesn't directly benefit more than that six percent,
[34:58] and I bet it indirectly benefits 60%.
[35:02] But no, I am not anti-fool.
[35:06] No, but I'm just...
[35:07] I'm just swimming in our pool here in Canada.
[35:09] I'm so grateful for the Canada.
[35:11] I'm grateful for now, my grandkids go constantly.
[35:15] But I'm just saying...
[35:17] I guess what I'm just trying to do is make sure the public knows
[35:21] this is how it works.
[35:23] This is what it costs.
[35:24] This is what we're voting for.
[35:26] We're aware of this.
[35:27] you mentioned again. There are people that are not going to agree with my vote. I'm going to vote
[35:30] yes on this. No, we know all this. I'm going to vote yes on this because I feel like there are
[35:35] those other considerations for sure that deserve that way. But I also think we do the services as
[35:42] public servants if we don't say we understand what we're voting for. We understand the costs
[35:48] and it now allows people to come and if they disagree they can call us or they can get old or
[35:52] they can send an email and we can all talk about that but I think for me this is what transparency
[35:58] looks like. Yep, no I think that's great, that's great discussion. Any other comments on the
[36:04] sand filtration equipment replacement if there is not, if there is a motion. Well by the way I want
[36:11] to say that replacing a filter, I'm all for that I think pools without filters in public areas
[36:19] It's probably really bad that I'm assuming this bill works water back in yeah, yeah, it's it's part of our
[36:25] We probably ought to have that working function
[36:29] Yep, all right
[36:31] I'll vote for it on one condition. You remember that show where they put the blue stuff in the water that a people
[36:36] Boy, it's in the water
[36:39] I'm gonna go put a video on top of that bill
[36:43] Okay, we also have a video camera.
[36:45] Yeah, they got a camera.
[36:46] All right.
[36:46] You got a funny shot.
[36:47] I will avoid it.
[36:48] It's not in the pool.
[36:50] We don't have the camera in the pool.
[36:53] I'll entertain a motion.
[36:54] Should have kept it open, Chris.
[36:57] I'll make a motion that we've proved purchase
[37:00] of the sand filtration equipment for the pool
[37:03] of two including $86,000.
[37:08] All right, I have a motion.
[37:09] Is there a second?
[37:10] Second.
[37:11] I have a second. Any questions? Discussions? Seeing none? Let's roll call.
[37:16] Roll call? No. Let's do an all in favor. Say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
[37:22] Perfect. Just note that I forgot to mention with this. The city is probably looking at doing the installation
[37:29] ourselves to save money on this. We have a really handy facilities personnel there.
[37:36] And like it's a re-anticipated significant amount of $86,000, but just in case there's a need for that, we want to make sure that the expenditure is there.
[37:47] Perfect, thank you.
[37:48] All right, the next item on the agenda is a discussion and consideration of a purchase of a lakeside Raptor sewer rig system using sewer impact fees counter.
[37:59] If this is a sewer-impact feed project that we've approved the design on, it's a sewer
[38:06] break that is separating the sewage from the trash and allowing for us to remove that
[38:15] and not have it sit in our sewer as we completely listen to it.
[38:19] The hope with this is that it gets our sewer to have less materials that really are causing
[38:28] some additional stench, and it allows for the process to be a little cleaner when that sewer
[38:34] lagoon is functioning. Our engineers have started designing the building, but with this, there's
[38:42] about a 26-week lead time for the purchase of this to what it actually is delivered. So if we look
[38:49] at having this purchase now, it won't arrive until probably January of next year. And so the engineers
[38:55] have done a lot of research looking at different facilities and so they are
[39:00] recommending this specific brand. The purchase is about it's $169,000 almost
[39:09] $17,000. This is we have impact fees prepared for this purchase. We also are
[39:16] looking at doing the building. We're going to be building that ourselves with
[39:23] we're going to be doing a block building and doing that ourselves.
[39:27] And then one of the things they've designed is the potential location for some future
[39:32] iteration equipment.
[39:34] So we're over sizing that building to be more than just the, this or rate so that some
[39:39] of the other future improvements can sit in that building as well.
[39:44] Part of the project, so you're all aware is also a dump station for people who do the
[39:52] septic, we're having problems with the religion on the side of the bank and so we want to save for a better place for them to dump those
[40:01] septics and so there's a lot to this project but right now we're looking at the hundreds, $170,000 to get the rate purchased so that we can
[40:12] and get hopefully a maybe better smelling soup.
[40:18] What my understanding is to it actually extends the life of the sewer itself, I mean
[40:22] it actually...
[40:23] Well, it's a step the life of the sewer.
[40:25] Yeah, it allows us to last longer and handle more, more, it's going to use more population
[40:32] for approval.
[40:34] That's one of the reasons why it's allowed as an anti-tea project.
[40:38] So, could we say money in the list of manuals?
[40:43] The rate being.
[40:44] The rate being.
[40:46] Yeah.
[40:48] I do.
[40:49] One thing that we find is the chemical systems are much more efficient.
[40:53] Peter.
[40:53] And you have not seen Peter and I stoop now.
[40:56] We have a boat.
[40:58] We have a boat.
[40:58] We have a lot of boat.
[40:59] And some old pool skimmers.
[41:02] And so if you want on your spare time to take the boat out with some pool skimmers,
[41:09] I'm sure that would offer some additional assistance.
[41:12] We should do a field trip with the skimmers.
[41:16] Since, oh, I would actually look, actually, I would like to know how much you're worth.
[41:20] Like, I'm actually serious for me.
[41:25] Well, as this product, I think that would be great, especially as the projects going.
[41:29] Yes.
[41:31] To see, it's pretty miraculous how nature takes care of sewer, all on its own.
[41:36] I think a field trip would be awesome.
[41:39] That airport actually was good.
[41:41] I've been, thanks for bringing that up, Chris.
[41:43] How we talk for another hour, not for a little bit.
[41:45] No, it's raining, it's raining.
[41:47] We gotta go check out.
[41:48] I only have one here.
[41:49] It's not yet.
[41:49] I only have one more question, and I'm asking this,
[41:52] because Tom and I remember I told you it's temporary.
[41:54] I actually can read his mind a little bit.
[41:57] He is hoping you'll put large porches off that new building.
[42:01] Just porches with nothing on it,
[42:03] so the goats and the llamas have some shade.
[42:06] As a side note, the previous project will be fencing the goats and llamas out of this area
[42:12] and there will be some fencing including the project to make it more secure as we allow
[42:18] the septic dumpers, the septic haulers to dump and there's also the sheriff's department
[42:25] that's using these gates.
[42:27] There will be some security changes and also protections for our maintenance.
[42:34] But your maintenance crew will not be able to get to those areas that you fence off, and they'll have a lot more weeds.
[42:40] You have a very good maintenance crew out there.
[42:42] They are extremely hard workers. They work overtime.
[42:46] The only time they're not really good is when people put enough hay and corn over the edge of the fence.
[42:51] I notice they really slack off when they're at the goal.
[42:53] All right, do I have a motion on our suit?
[43:02] I'll make a motion that we approve the sole
[43:04] source purchase of the Lakeside Raptor Suer Rape
[43:07] for the city's wastewater magoons and authorize staff
[43:10] to proceed with procurement.
[43:13] All right, second.
[43:14] Second.
[43:16] Questions, discussion?
[43:17] Seeing none, all in favor?
[43:18] Aye.
[43:19] Awesome.
[43:20] Make motion.
[43:21] One more real quick, kind of a review discuss, August 11th.
[43:27] Yeah, with the August 11th meeting, we're hoping that the planning commission get the
[43:32] money or some additional ordinance to us.
[43:34] They also have another ordinance that they're working on that's been proposed by a resident.
[43:39] They're hoping to maybe reduce some of the costs of development, and so they've proposed
[43:44] quite a few changes.
[43:46] We're hoping that's a discussion on parks.
[43:49] The mayor's wanted to have some discussion on RA zoning and what that looks like in our community.
[43:55] Right now, it's a two-acre minimum on all of the RA zoning and he wants to have discussion on whether or not we assess if 5 or 10 acre minimums would be more appropriate in some areas.
[44:07] We're hoping to have some discussion on, or maybe get some action on some annexation north of Canada and then potentially some discussion for some CID funding.
[44:17] We're looking at bringing the library track to CIV and hopefully get some grant funding them.
[44:24] Awesome. Perfect. Thank you. Anything else, Steph? Oh, Fourth of July, great job. Yeah everybody. Yeah, that was a great event to sit in the County. No, it was awesome. Yeah. Thank you, Boyd. All right. Boyd, I'm ready for your motion. I'll make a motion with your second. All in favor? All right. Thank you.
[44:47] We get an hour.