City Council Meeting 9-2-26

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[0:02] Seeing we have a quorum, one of our members is remote access tonight, Councilman Vottis, and I will call the meeting to order at 4 o'clock PM of the City of Kema City Council and Kema Public Facilities Corporation.
[0:19] And the first thing on our agenda are the pledges.
[1:02] The
[1:11] next thing on the agenda is a moment of silence,
[1:31] okay, and next is invitation to address
[1:34] Council and the first one on the list is Tony Bale, and Tony, if you would, state your,
[1:39] make sure the mic's on and state your address.
[1:45] Okay, can you hear me okay?
[1:50] Good evening Mayor Council for those of you that don't know me, my name's Tony Bell.
[1:55] I live at 14, 33, Kip Avenue, I've been a proud chemo resident for the past four years.
[2:03] Also the publisher of a little magazine called Kima Living, it's a magazine delivered
[2:07] throughout Kima, Clear Lake Shores, and South Shore Harbor.
[2:11] While our reach extends beyond the city limits, the heart of the publication has always
[2:15] been Kima.
[2:15] It's residents, it's businesses and the people who make this community special.
[2:20] Tonight, I have three hot tax applications before the city.
[2:23] Whether they are all three different proposals, they all serve one purpose
[2:27] to put more positive attention on Kima and give people more reasons the visits
[2:32] stay spend money and ultimately discover what those of us who live here already know.
[2:37] Kima is a wonderful family-focused community with great neighbors,
[2:40] incredible local-owned businesses and so much to offer both the people who live here and the
[2:46] visitors who come to experience our city. The first proposal involves partnering with the city
[2:51] through chemo living to better communicate what's happening here while promoting our local businesses
[2:55] and tourism. I brought copies tonight because I can talk about the magazine all day but I think
[2:59] it's much easier to understand its value when you actually hold it in your hands. My second proposal
[3:04] involves the Trunkertree Shop in EAT. Last year, I worked alongside our chief of police to
[3:10] help produce and promote this event. And only about three hours we estimated between
[3:14] two to three thousand people that attended. It was a tremendous proof of concept. I love to
[3:20] make it even better this year, but producing something of the size required significant time,
[3:24] marketing, coordination, and resources. Finally, I'm proposing a chemo wine and food festival
[3:30] for the fall of 2027.
[3:33] A destination event where a restaurant's business is hotels and community can participate
[3:37] while bringing thousands of visitors into KEMA.
[3:41] I also want Council to understand that I'm not approaching you with ideas that I don't
[3:44] have experience executing.
[3:47] Before moving to KEMA, I produce events in Las Vegas.
[3:49] Since coming here, I produce business and food events.
[3:52] KEMA Gardens created the Bay Area Breakfast Club and produced 10 successful monthly events
[3:57] before transitioning to my newest concept,
[3:59] which is called Bourbon and Bubbles at Eculents.
[4:02] I believe I can be a valuable logistical
[4:04] and promotional partner for this city,
[4:07] but more importantly, I'm a residence first.
[4:09] I live here, I raise my family here,
[4:11] I spend my money here, and when chemist exceeds
[4:14] my neighbors and I succeed with it.
[4:16] Everything I'm proposing is designed to bring people together,
[4:19] support our local businesses,
[4:21] strengthen tourism, and put more positive eyes on the community.
[4:24] So tonight I'm simply asking you to carefully consider these applications and give me the opportunity to continue proving what we can accomplish together.
[4:33] I care deeply about working as going and I'm willing to put in the work to help us get there.
[4:38] Thank you for your time.
[4:41] Thanks Tony.
[4:42] Next is Sean Williams.
[4:52] Hi everybody.
[4:54] On Roomer.
[4:54] Thank you for everything you do and for having me here today.
[4:57] I'm going to piggyback real fast.
[4:58] I didn't know Tony was going to be talking to me.
[5:00] So, I'd just like to speak and support the food and wine festival that he's asking for. Over the few years, I've got to know Tony, and I can tell you right now, a lot of us do know him and spend time with him. Tony's the real deal. When he talks about his past history and his experience, it's the real deal. I met people that he asserts himself with. I met his partners, his staff. They are serious, and he is a very big influence when it comes to these types of things. In fact, he didn't mention it. I will. I know Seabrook is a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very important. I know Seabrook is a very, very, very important. I know Seabrook. I know Seabrook is a very, very, very important. I know Seabrook. I know Seabrook. I know Seabrook. I know Seabrook. I know Seabrook
[5:29] improving him to do some things there, they see the point of having him do this and I do
[5:34] too.
[5:34] I think this is a big deal.
[5:36] You look at places like Breckenrich, Food and Wine Festival, Balotsie has one, they're
[5:40] very successful.
[5:41] I can see the conversation, well, you know, it's going to take this many hotel rooms to make
[5:46] that money, text money back and things like that.
[5:48] I think I would encourage you to look at things besides just how many rooms are we selling.
[5:53] The implications of it, the branding that we talk about so much and getting chemiturism here.
[5:58] And I do encourage you to do it.
[6:00] I think it's a very good thing for Kima and for a long time Tony has been told and has been,
[6:06] you know, promised a bunch of things and to look at this and I think we owe Damie does a lot for this community and a lot for this city.
[6:11] The second thing I want to talk about is sidewalks of Kima Oaks.
[6:14] I know you guys are going to go through that a lot.
[6:16] For a long time, several of you personally have told the of Kima Oaks residents, not including myself,
[6:24] that you were going to get this done.
[6:25] This was something you were going to work on, you were a yes vote, and these types of things.
[6:29] And then at KCVC, when it comes to that last time, which I'm also a member of, then the idea was, well, maybe the HOA can pay for part of it, I don't know if it's our job, I don't know if we want to get into that.
[6:40] And I can again see the conversation, I have a crystal ball, your legal account is going to tell you, well, we don't have to do that, it's not the law.
[6:46] Well, I'm going to tell you, that's wrong. And I'm also going to tell you, I really think that you should look at doing this.
[6:52] President's from us doing it in helping repair those sidewalks, but also, the ideas
[6:56] will maybe make a pathway to the park through key mocks. We'll do that, but not the rest of it.
[7:02] Listen, if you want to beautify the city, you want to beautify parks, you want to beautify
[7:05] other things like that, start with a community, start with it there.
[7:09] And now the last thing is, and I'm not going to talk about too long as the flock cameras.
[7:13] All I can talk about is my personal opinion at key mocks. It seems to me like a lot of people
[7:18] and chemo's are not happy with them being in the community,
[7:21] but don't have a problem with them being in the street.
[7:23] And we've seen the abuses, but we've also talked about it,
[7:25] and I've talked about it with him.
[7:27] One of the things that makes me feel better about it
[7:28] is Chief McGarby being involved in it.
[7:30] I can fix it all.
[7:31] I can fix the entire thing right now.
[7:33] The only thing that I think would make people feel better
[7:35] is if that a limited amount of people had access
[7:37] to the flock cameras, unless we had extended circumstances.
[7:41] And then every three, four months,
[7:43] we have a third party come in
[7:44] to just make sure everything's good with the cheap audit.
[7:46] I think that's a simple thing.
[7:47] And guys, the flow camera goes to a bigger thing.
[7:49] It goes to trust.
[7:50] And it kind of goes to other things.
[7:52] Our bungled sports center lay out that we've done.
[7:54] These different issues with our different branding,
[7:57] different issues.
[7:58] The issue is trust.
[8:00] And so I encourage you to do the line fest,
[8:02] do the Kimaoke sidewalks, and put some restraints on flocks.
[8:06] I can give us a reason to trust you again.
[8:11] Is there anybody that was overlooked
[8:13] to incumbents?
[8:17] We have next on the agenda is, we have small months and middles.
[8:21] We have online submittals that I need to read.
[8:25] It's a question.
[8:26] I've got to get in the hand that I've written.
[8:27] It's OK.
[8:28] Thank you for reminding me.
[8:29] No, sorry.
[8:30] We have Mr. Daniel Conrad that had comments on the fiscal year 2025 audit.
[8:36] Float cameras and delays in public record request due to staff shortages.
[8:40] Mark Hestler opposed this flood cameras due to privacy security, misuse and constitutional
[8:45] constitutional concerns.
[8:48] Troy, why is it burger?
[8:49] We're quest removal of lock cameras due to privacy and misuse in civil
[8:53] liberty concerns.
[8:54] And that's all we have.
[8:58] Thank you very much.
[9:00] There is a, what did you refer to earlier,
[9:05] 36 hour?
[9:07] In other words, these comments that are red,
[9:09] and in state council,
[9:10] and I have to be in 36 hours part of eating time.
[9:13] So if they did come in after that,
[9:16] I think they're still in the, I can still send them to you guys.
[9:21] All right.
[9:22] Okay.
[9:24] Excuse me.
[9:26] And I admit my ignorance on this.
[9:30] The win to make this change.
[9:34] I'd like to remove something from the considered agenda.
[9:38] Okay.
[9:39] That would be when I ask for the, because there's only one thing on it.
[9:43] So you want to take that off.
[9:44] I want to take it off and discuss, yes.
[9:47] Okay.
[9:48] I'll do that up here.
[9:49] Yeah.
[9:50] At the item, when I...
[9:51] Okay.
[9:51] For the consent agenda.
[9:53] Thank you.
[9:54] Okay.
[9:54] Next on the agenda is a presentation of the 2025.
[10:00] Thank you for your audit from Brooks Watson and Company, and I believe we have Mr. Mike Brooks, here to chime in in any discussion and or answer any questions and give the presentation.
[10:15] Thank you.
[10:17] How are you all?
[10:18] And do we need to do anything with the microphone?
[10:21] You just use a minute.
[10:24] Thank you for coming, I appreciate it.
[10:26] Absolutely.
[10:27] Every time I come here, I wonder why I don't come to Kima Moore.
[10:30] It's a really cheap way up here, I know.
[10:32] I should.
[10:33] We're real quick, Mayor, like if I came before, Mr. Brooks presents, if you remember, the
[10:38] previous time that the presentation occurred, it was actually on my first day, coincidentally
[10:44] went back when it happened.
[10:45] So we were months and months, we've been trying to bring that time frame down.
[10:49] Last year, the presentation took place in November, this year.
[10:52] We were hoping to get it done in August, but we're getting it done in September.
[10:55] So, a long time lives in the guidelines of trying to get this done faster as a team,
[10:59] something that we take a lot of pride in.
[11:01] So, Kudos to Mr. Brooks and his firm on his attempt to do that, and also to
[11:04] own Ryan and the entire team for pulling things together to get that done.
[11:09] So, thank you.
[11:14] As you mentioned, my name is Mike Brooks, Audre Parkman with Brooks Watson and
[11:17] Company.
[11:17] I will be presenting you with your audited financial statements for the year
[11:20] in the September 30th of 2025.
[11:24] In front of you, you should have a copy of the report packet.
[11:28] In this report, you have the complete set of alternative financials, my, our audit letters and a couple of our, I'm sorry, my audit summary presentation.
[11:40] There is a lot of information in here, so if you don't mind, I will go over the summary and then open it up to questions.
[11:45] And we can talk about anything you like at work you tell.
[11:55] All right, first, just want to give a brief overview of the audit process.
[11:59] The audit can be broken into three general phases. The first is the planning and risk assessment phase.
[12:04] So this is what we do on the front end, we're trying to figure out what's happened this year in any new activity, any new debt, capital projects, really developing our audit plan and altering our procedures around the risky areas.
[12:17] The next stage is the bulk of what we do, so this is our year-end field work, so this is what you're typically used to with most audit.
[12:23] We're coming out, we're looking at all the source documents for your year-end cash balances, all of your cruise, receivables, as well as your revenues and expenditures.
[12:32] So we're not testing everything, but if there is an item or a transaction that does meet
[12:38] our materiality threshold, we are auditing it at some form of fashion.
[12:43] And the final stage is just the conclusion in reporting.
[12:46] So this is the wrap-up of any findings that we had as well as the presentation and acceptance
[12:50] of the audit report by City Council.
[12:56] Next, I just want to briefly go over the components of your audit report.
[13:00] It is quite lengthy, but it can be broken down into several distinct sections.
[13:03] The first is the financial section, which includes all of your financial statements and footnotes.
[13:09] Next is your required supplementary information.
[13:12] This would include your budget to actual, for your general fund as well as your pension information.
[13:17] And then you have the other supplementary information, which includes your fund level statements for the CDC.
[13:23] Now, last but certainly not least is the auditor's opinion.
[13:27] So when you're looking at this auditor report, everything within this report with the exception of our auditor's opinion
[13:33] is derived from city financial data, so all that activity, and all the policies that the city
[13:39] have in place all come from the city with the exception of our independent auditor's report.
[13:45] This report is our letter over the reliability and accuracy over these financial statements.
[13:50] This letter can have four possible outcomes.
[13:52] The best outcome and the one you want is going to be an unmodified audit opinion and the one
[13:57] you don't want is really anything other than that.
[14:00] But they do get significantly worse than that.
[14:04] So I am happy to say that we were able to issue a clean, unmodified audit opinion on the city's financials.
[14:10] So this is the highest level of assurance that we can give that these financial statements are free of any material misstatement and all footnotes are disclosed.
[14:19] All right. Next is a summary of the revenues for the year.
[14:22] So this is your cumulative revenues. The city's revenues this year totaled just under 8.8 million,
[14:29] which is an increase of about 476,000 from the prior year.
[14:35] Sales taxes total 3.3 million increased 389,000.
[14:39] Your grants and contributions total 1.4 million had a decrease of 420,000.
[14:45] Property taxes total 1.3 million and increased 256,000.
[14:51] While your charges for services total 1,3,000 and increased about 130,000.
[15:00] All right. Next, your expenses for the year total just under 7.7 million. This was an increase of about 600,000 from the prior year.
[15:10] Some of the larger expenses included your public safety expense, which was just under 2.8 million.
[15:16] Stay pretty flat, had a slight increase of about 14,000.
[15:20] Your general government expenses total 2,000 and had an increase of about 100,000 public works just under 1.4 million from the year.
[15:28] And at an increase of about 212,000, your advertising and tourism total 600,000 had an increase of 30,000 in the rest of your smaller expenses.
[15:44] All right. Next is a summary of your changes in fund balance for your governmental funds.
[15:50] So I'm just going to go over the changes here and then we'll talk about the general fund in a minute.
[15:54] But starting on the left hand side, you will see the net increase or decrease in your general fund balance.
[16:00] So all of your revenues, expenditures, transfers in and out, in the other activity, those
[16:07] accumulated together equal your increase or decrease in fund balance.
[16:11] This year the general fund had a decrease of just under 2 million in your general fund balance.
[16:18] Your hotel and motel tax fund had a decrease of 51,000, very common with hotel motel tax.
[16:25] those funds are spent at the city's discretion as long as they meet the required guidelines.
[16:30] So if a city is not, you may spend those on projects in different years
[16:35] so you may have increases in decreases.
[16:37] Your growth fund had an increase this year of 553,000,
[16:42] which was all sales tax and investment earnings.
[16:44] So no expenses there.
[16:46] And your capital projects fund had an increase in fund balance of just over 2 million.
[16:52] So I do want to point out here when we're looking at the general fund and the capital projects fund.
[16:57] We have very similar increases in decreases.
[17:01] This was due to the capital projects fund in a prior year putting itself into a deficit position.
[17:09] So more was spent out of that fund.
[17:11] Then was actually allocated within the fund.
[17:14] So that amount was pulled from the pulled cash fund, which in essence came from the general fund.
[17:19] So that created an inner fund balance that needed to get paid.
[17:24] That amount was paid and transferred from the general fund to this capital project fund
[17:29] to bring it into a positive position because your deficit fund balance
[17:35] couldn't remain that way.
[17:36] So you do see that and that was reported as a transfer from the general fund
[17:42] of 2.4 million into the capital project fund.
[17:46] So you see that activity as well.
[17:48] But what that did is, is basically pull that amount from your general fund balance, which reduced your general fund balance from just under 2.3 million to about 315,000.
[18:01] So your ending fund balance in your general fund is what we consider to be somewhat low, and it was in good shape before this transfer.
[18:10] the city certainly has the means to bring that fun balance back up and our recommendation
[18:15] is to continue to plan for a budget surplus to bring the fun balance up in your general fund.
[18:22] So the GF away recommends about a two-month reserve, so that's really kind of the floor.
[18:30] You guys are right now just under one month, so most cities that we ought to shoot for about
[18:36] three months of unassigned fund balance reserve in your general fund.
[18:42] So if you were looking at that, if you guys were shooting for three months, you'd be looking
[18:46] at about a $1.7 million fund balance to build up to.
[18:56] Next is your budget actual for your general fund.
[19:00] So we have the final original final and actual results for the year.
[19:05] So in this intercolonies to your final budget at numbers, this is after any amendments.
[19:09] There were no amendments that there was, I'm sorry, but no amendments to revenue this year.
[19:14] Your actual results came in above, which you estimated for your budget.
[19:20] So the city actually received about $574,000 more than you anticipated in revenue.
[19:26] That offset, your expenditure variance, which was a negative variance, so you spent more
[19:31] than you anticipated with your final budget by about 603,000.
[19:35] And below that, the city had a negative variance within your transfers.
[19:40] It's your other financing sources and uses, but that's primarily going to be your transfers.
[19:45] By about 1.9 million, and again, that was the transfer from your general fund to your capital projects fund.
[19:58] Next, just want to go over the...
[20:00] Results of your growth fund. So, several years ago, the city did create this growth fund as part of a 380 agreement to build the shops at Kima.
[20:10] So, a part of that fund was the city contributed 3 million towards this development.
[20:15] And that amount was going to get reimbursed through sales tax. And the city designated or committed those funds to be reported in the growth fund.
[20:23] up to that $3 million.
[20:26] The growth fund is committed to be spent on economic development projects.
[20:30] Over the city, it's committed by city council,
[20:34] so actually by city council could change it.
[20:36] There's no external restriction.
[20:39] As of the end of the year, though, the city had received 2.9 million
[20:42] of that 3 million in sales tax.
[20:45] So just under 73,000 remaining, which was most certainly received early
[20:49] in the 2026 fiscal year.
[20:53] I do bring this up because any sales tax, which
[20:56] told you somewhere in the $150,000 range,
[21:00] that was being allocated to the growth fund,
[21:02] is now going to get allocated to the general fund.
[21:05] So that amount will increase your general fund revenue
[21:09] going forward.
[21:14] So that concludes my summary presentation.
[21:17] There are some additional letters included
[21:18] in your report.
[21:20] One is our required auditor disclosure letter.
[21:22] This just gives us the opportunity to discuss any issues we have with the completion of the audit as well as provide our journal entries
[21:29] that we're proposed as part of the audit. They are attached to your to your letter
[21:34] overall no difficulties dealing with the city. Certainly as Caesar mentioned, we were
[21:40] would love to issue a lot a lot sooner going forward
[21:43] but overall the process itself
[21:47] went well
[21:48] Next is our management letter, or our internal control findings and recommendations.
[21:54] We did have several that we reported to you.
[21:56] I won't go over each of them individually, but if you add any questions over those comments
[22:01] or the reported cell phone, I'm happy to discuss.
[22:05] Do you want the comments before or after you do the questions, after you do you?
[22:12] No, no, the question you can give a question is now.
[22:17] Could you?
[22:19] I don't know what this final report is different from the draft report that was put in our package.
[22:26] So you will have to go to me on that.
[22:30] I'm looking at page 14 where it speaks to Millum Paragraph.
[22:41] A year in the capital project, funds reflected a fund balance of 207,799,
[22:51] which was an increase of 2 million.
[22:56] Is that correct?
[22:59] That is correct.
[23:04] So, can you speak to that then as
[23:10] 207,000 compared to the 2 million?
[23:15] So yeah, it doesn't seem to add up.
[23:19] But the thing about that is the city was in a, that's what I was referring to whenever
[23:25] I mentioned that the general fund had a transfer money to cover the deficit.
[23:28] So, if you were starting at a, you know, 1.8 million dollar negative, and then you added 2 million to that.
[23:38] You were talking about that two hundred thousand.
[23:41] Okay, all right.
[23:42] And I just want to just confirm something.
[23:46] So, basically, the auditor is saying for us as a city to operate with three months, you're listing that number is 1.7 million.
[23:58] million, and that's a general fund balance, and that is three months of operating expenses.
[24:06] So if we took in, have it forbid anything happening, we didn't take in a dollar.
[24:11] We wouldn't need that amount of money to operate for three months, is that, am I understanding
[24:15] that correct?
[24:16] That's correct.
[24:17] The amount that you keep in unassigned fund balances is a city decision.
[24:21] The three months is really just kind of a general rule of thumb.
[24:24] I'm just trying to, but I'll I'm trying to do as tight as I remember, so that's my
[24:29] That's my indicator that, so 1.7 million covers us for three months.
[24:36] Correct.
[24:36] Yeah, based on this year's activity.
[24:39] Then I have a couple more items, and I'll give you the page numbers.
[24:48] And I think he borrowed kind of explained it on page
[24:55] 13, that's-
[25:00] Again, it started with the negative, at the barebomb, at the end of the year, the general fund is perfected
[25:05] upon balance of 35,000, which had a net degree, the 1.9, a broad 1.9 mean. So those were as far as the deficit
[25:15] It had to be taking reverse.
[25:20] So the general fund started with 2.2, 2.3,
[25:25] at the decrease of about 2 million and ended with 3.
[25:32] You may be going to touch on this part in your next section,
[25:39] but I'm page 43.
[25:43] The original at the very bottom stewardship compliance and accountability.
[25:46] The original budget is adopted by the city council prior to the beginning of the physical year for all governmental funds.
[25:54] The legal level of budgetary control, either level of expenditure, which may not exceed appropriation is the department level.
[26:07] So, those why they had the transfer and so, all these enumerated items were what added to that those numbers correct.
[26:17] So, those were, if I understand it correctly, those were things that either exceeded the budget and did not have a amendment.
[26:29] I don't want to put words in your mind, so it did not have a budget amendment.
[26:33] So that's why that comment that it was not, which may not legally exceed
[26:40] appropriations in the department.
[26:45] Okay, kind of the other questions I have are kind of general questions.
[26:51] Obviously, this is the end of the, literally, the next fiscal year we have less than 30 days on the remaining fiscal year.
[27:01] So, this will carry us forward to that, can you speak to the timeline, can is it something
[27:11] that we as a city can do to ensure that we actually have the budget, have the audit done
[27:23] in the state mandated three months within the end of the fiscal year.
[27:30] So my ballpark is that looking at like December.
[27:35] So can you speak to that as far as how realistic it can be done.
[27:43] What the city might need to do to provide with that.
[27:46] And just for the public's information,
[27:48] I am not saying this in the sense of,
[27:50] oh, we'll get the audited in on time so we can raise taxes.
[27:54] I want to be quite clear on that because as an accountant,
[27:57] To me, the audit gives you a picture of your finances, because there's a big
[28:04] difference between what you have in the checkbook and what your cash flows and what's
[28:08] going in.
[28:09] So I just want the code to be very clear, this is not about, oh, well, she wants it so what
[28:14] we can raise taxes.
[28:15] I'd want to put that out immediately.
[28:20] So, absolutely, it's possible,
[28:55] man.
[28:55] So if I understand that correctly, you provide a list of prior to the close out, you provide a list of accounts that need to be closed out or reconciled with all the journal entries in order for you to come in.
[29:10] So you give it to us as a city upfront. Is that correct?
[29:14] That's correct.
[29:14] Thank you.
[29:20] questions or comments or discussion?
[29:26] Seeing none, thank you very much for your presentation.
[29:30] I appreciate it.
[29:34] Next on our agenda is the Mayor's comments.
[29:38] Thank you for coming out tonight.
[29:42] Tropical Storm Edward, a landfall yesterday, and we thankfully were spared any negative impacts from that.
[29:50] our staff monitored this storm closely and were prepared in case things took a turn toward
[29:57] us.
[29:58] I want to especially thank Pup.
[30:00] Public work, steam, for clearing the city of any loose items and driving around the city and looking for debris before the storm.
[30:08] And Nellidence Allows are permitting coordinator for contacting all of the contractors that were inactive progress with projects in town to make sure that their sides were secure.
[30:19] And while the storm ended up being an awning vent for chemo, we always encourage everyone to have their preparedness plan in place for any worst case scenario.
[30:28] And please remember that we have the Galveston County disaster gods available online and in the hard copy out in the lobby
[30:38] Applications are still being accepted for the vacant position on our KCDC board anyone interested in filling that position may apply online all of these applications must be received by five PM tomorrow Thursday September the third and finally
[30:55] They're still the scenic city Texas is held in their 2026 People's Choice Award, and we're a recognized community.
[31:04] We have been nominated, and we'd like for you all to be encouraged to go and vote for us to be a scenic Texas city at www.scenictexas.org.
[31:16] I think that's all, next on the agenda is councilmember comments,
[31:25] councilwoman Thorne?
[31:26] I'd just would like to welcome everybody for coming out and it's refreshing to see citizens being vocal about how their city runs,
[31:40] because we are here to serve the citizens and businesses in the city of Kema, not as individuals.
[31:50] The other thing I would like to speak to is, be safe over the holiday weekend.
[31:58] So you're going to have kids out, so be mindful of the little them, between the golf
[32:04] and the kids in the street, please have a wonderful holiday, but please be safe.
[32:11] That's all I have. Thank you.
[32:13] And Councilman Oliver?
[32:16] Thank you, everybody, for coming out.
[32:18] It's all we got.
[32:19] Councilman Brottis.
[32:21] Here we go from, come to Rita.
[32:25] I'll wait for you to put the sunset in the last line.
[32:27] I need where to light up, so hopefully we're done.
[32:34] Thank you for coming out and I would do a shout out to our city team on the audit report and all of the work that you put into that I've set on other boards where we didn't always have is favorable of an outcome.
[32:54] That's how you gave him.
[32:56] And I tell them in the work.
[32:59] Well, I just want to say, well, I just want to say,
[33:01] welcome, and I got to say this, that this is my first audit
[33:05] meeting.
[33:07] And I actually understood what you being said.
[33:10] I just think that way of the world coming out,
[33:13] and I'd like to see more citizens come and talk to those
[33:17] challenges.
[33:18] And let's see that we make chemo even better.
[33:24] Thank you. Next on the agenda is the City Administrator's Report, Cesar.
[33:32] There's nothing new to report today. We'll take action through the actual items that we have.
[33:36] Thank you, everybody, for all the well wishes.
[33:38] Work on my way back. Hope to be back soon.
[33:40] Senator, rather than later. Thank you.
[33:43] The next are reports from staff.
[33:46] Do we have anybody here from long board?
[33:48] No. That's in your packet.
[33:50] Monthly reports and sales tax report. Also your packet.
[33:55] Yes, we just want a little shout-out congratulations to three of our officers here at the Department for receiving awards for the mothers against drunk drivers
[34:04] Sergeant Randy Rangel
[34:06] Outstanding leadership award officer Brianna Shelby mad enforcement hero award and officer Grant Gates
[34:12] Outstanding rookie award
[34:14] They go out there every night looking to get impaired drivers off the streets
[34:19] So we are very, very, very proud of them representing our city and our department, congratulations to all three of them.
[34:26] Yes, congratulations.
[34:28] Not only to the whole department, but to these three individuals.
[34:33] Next is the consent agenda.
[34:36] I asked if the item be removed from the cassette agenda.
[34:40] Seeing there's only one item on it, we can go ahead and address that.
[34:48] I'm not against the holiday schedule, but I would ask that the financial ramifications.
[35:00] Of ramifications in the proper term, but the financial effects of adding two additional holidays.
[35:10] Iledge is not imputed in the budget, and I would ask that we approve the holiday schedule based on last year's holiday schedule.
[35:26] for just information, the city was not open on Martin Luther King's birthday.
[35:36] All right, the city was closed.
[35:39] But when, and I, maybe the financial director can elaborate on it,
[35:47] Then additional holidays are placed in the calendar, then those holidays must be paid at specific
[35:59] rates, sorry, specific rates for those that are working, and then for the entire because
[36:06] it is declared holiday has to be paid a specific rate, am I understanding that correctly?
[36:15] Yeah, regular employees are paid for that day, and they're all for the police officers that actually work at overtime for that day.
[36:25] Okay, and it's holiday, and it's holiday, and it's holiday, it's considered holiday pay.
[36:29] And so I ledge that based on the information from our audit today that we defer, adding those two additional days, not totally, but until we get the end of this year's audit, so we have a better idea of what our financial position is.
[36:54] because I
[36:59] don't believe that those monies are put in this year's budget that we have
[37:07] sitting in front of us to approve.
[37:14] And just just to remind of Mayor M. Sardin, just to remind of clarification, you want to
[37:19] know what the value is of the additional two holiday pays, additional costs for our police
[37:24] officers who might be working on those positions.
[37:26] No, the entire, the entire city.
[37:29] Well, the entire city wouldn't be affected very differently.
[37:32] You don't be the ones that are working that day that would receive additional pay.
[37:35] I believe that the police officers that are all duty that day would be paid.
[37:43] If it's an off day that they get off, because I remember my paycheck and again, city may
[37:48] be wrong.
[37:48] You get a little separate thing for holiday pay if you're hourly work.
[37:55] So, we'll clarify that, but it would only be PD, those affected that are working in additional
[38:00] shift.
[38:01] But we'll clarify that and bring that back.
[38:02] So, the decision would be to table this item, pending that clarification.
[38:06] That's fine.
[38:07] If not, that's okay.
[38:09] Whatever the body wants to do.
[38:11] I want to clarify.
[38:12] Make sure that I show the question.
[38:14] It's at the motion you would like to make.
[38:16] Yes.
[38:17] I make a motion that we approve the holiday schedule based on last year's.
[38:24] approved holiday schedule and defer to the two additional holidays until finance can make a determination of how that affects the budget and imputed into the budget.
[38:43] And which two holidays are these?
[38:46] That will be Martin Luther King's birthday in Christmas Eve, or was it New Year's Eve?
[38:53] One was an additional holiday, and I don't work.
[38:56] Actually, the only two holidays that are new,
[38:58] except for me if I'm wrong, are going to be Juneteenth,
[39:02] which was not a recognized holiday in the city before, and Columbus Day.
[39:06] One day away from good Friday, so we're only giving up for four hours,
[39:10] We're good Friday instead of the day before, so it's actually one day when you go on the
[39:15] answer to the video of a correct, so I would make a motion to table until September 16th.
[39:22] We have a motion on the floor.
[39:24] Are you seconding that, Darren?
[39:27] I'm not.
[39:28] Okay.
[39:29] So we have a motion on the floor by Councilwoman Thorn to have a second.
[39:34] That fails for like of a second.
[39:36] Do we have another motion on the floor?
[39:38] Councilman Broadass.
[39:39] Those
[39:42] are the tables on September 16, so that everybody's letting more details.
[39:46] Do we have a second?
[39:48] That's second.
[39:49] We have a motion by Councilman Derrick Harris.
[39:52] Second by Councilwoman Thorn, all this favor.
[39:55] Any opposed?
[39:57] Motion carries.
[40:03] Thank you. Next on the agenda, I need to adjourn our meeting at 440 and open the public hearing at 440.
[40:15] How the public hearing on the City of Kemos fiscal year, 2026, 2027 proposed tax rate of 0.189.
[40:24] Do we have any of the public that would like to speak to this?
[40:32] Do we have any mayor or council deliberations on this?
[40:37] Then I will close the public hearing at 440 and I will open the next public hearing at 440.
[40:46] This is how the public hearing on the city of chemist fiscal year 2026-2027 proposed annual budget.
[40:54] The public hearing is now open if there are any comments from the public seeing none.
[40:59] Mayor and council deliberation.
[41:02] None.
[41:03] I will now close the public hearing at 441.
[41:06] Did you get all that in the talk show?
[41:12] We'll open our regularly scheduled City Council meeting again at 4.41.
[41:18] 12A consideration.
[41:20] I'm sorry.
[41:20] I'd like to make a motion to move item 12E to between item 12A and 12B.
[41:29] Since we have somebody on the phone.
[41:31] 12A and 12B.
[41:33] We have a motion on the floor to move 12E between 12A and 12B.
[41:37] Do we have a second?
[41:38] second. Do we all those in favour? Motion carries. Any opposed? Motion carries.
[41:47] Twelve-a consideration of possible action to a pre-resolution 2026-33. A resolution of the city council
[41:54] of the city of Kima Texas accepting the results of the fiscal year 2024-2025 financial audit.
[42:05] Do I have a motion to accept the audit?
[42:08] I didn't mention to accept the audit for the 2025-2024-2025 fiscal audit.
[42:17] Do I have a second?
[42:18] So we have a motion by Councilwoman Weeland and a second by Councilman Rourke.
[42:22] All those at Biber?
[42:25] Any opposed?
[42:26] Motion carries unanimously.
[42:29] 12E.
[42:30] consideration and possible action concerning Hima Okside Oaks sidewalk repairs.
[42:38] Yes, Mayor, we were asked to bring this item forward as a consideration. As was mentioned
[42:44] by a resident earlier and a KCDC board member of the actual neighborhood, there is a desire
[42:52] or a need to take some of the sidewalks. Some of them had become somewhat of a trip hazard.
[42:57] We did have an opportunity to meet with a Mr. Beeson public works went out there and identified all of the locations.
[43:04] He's going to be much more eloquent than I am. This is a certain technology. This is not the only form of solution.
[43:09] Either way, the numbers that are given to you when I took these numbers once I had them.
[43:13] I did make a formal request to WCID to please consider supporting this in some way shape reform.
[43:19] Since a lot of these damaged sidewalk sections are near their infrastructure.
[43:23] And being another taxing entity within the city, it would only be fair for them to share some of the load.
[43:28] I also, depending on what happens with that and what action is taking through this body.
[43:31] The other idea was to possibly have the HOA consider possibly shipping in.
[43:35] It is a rather large amount.
[43:37] There are two separate amounts that we talked about here by Mr. Beeson.
[43:41] We'll quickly go through the presentation, but why don't you have a general view of what we have in mind.
[43:44] Thank you.
[43:54] I'm down there, and the State Council member, and I do not have to control the slide here.
[44:01] We'll take care of that, Mr. Beeson. Mr. Tashan, next slide.
[44:08] Yeah, so just to get you guys a sense of what we do, our company, the President of Coffee Company,
[44:15] offers sidewalk assessment services as well as a cost-saving method for carrying trip hazards,
[44:28] We do a horizontal shape that is significantly less expensive and much faster in nature than we are living in a place in New York.
[44:43] and we looked at the neighborhood at some of those and found a lot of issues in that neighborhood.
[44:54] They're just gosh.
[44:57] Switch my springs like I'm seeing.
[45:01] We found that. Yeah, we will be looking at everything that neighbors have set that we can repair.
[45:08] I'll use the armament if we found the look here. It's like my filter.
[45:20] We found that in the neighborhood of
[45:29] the 2000 offsets or trotations that come to the repair days or a Nineth of a day.
[45:34] via a horizontal slice.
[45:36] Now, that's when you look at the ADA required
[45:45] starting point, which is at a coordinate.
[45:47] So any offset, or what the ADA calls it,
[45:51] change in a level, is a coordinate for more
[45:54] is something that needs to be rectified.
[45:57] Now, I don't know if anybody chooses to do that,
[46:00] and that's understandable, especially with finding
[46:04] so many, but we found right at $158,000 what the per carers that could be, you know,
[46:10] may be using the force on the slice and that could be awesome.
[46:14] Mr. Beeson, could you repeat that number, please?
[46:17] Just a little under $150,000 to be exact, $149,000, $23,000 worth of force on the slice and
[46:28] that would be the range of a quarter of an inch up to two inches of height.
[46:34] If you decided to filter that down and not do the A-E-A required,
[46:44] that would take the number of repairs down somewhat,
[46:49] down to about 1,300 repairs,
[46:53] And that lowers the price to $121,156 dollars.
[47:02] And there's now this doesn't quite repair everything.
[47:06] There will still be some that are outside of our scope
[47:11] that we need to be replaced.
[47:13] But I don't know if your department, Mr. Garcia,
[47:17] has the bandwidth to do any of that work in the house.
[47:20] that there's probably another 20 to 30 locations
[47:25] that might require some panels to be replaced.
[47:29] So it's not included in this process.
[47:31] Mr. Beeson, let me interrupt you just one quick second.
[47:33] I wanted to note that total we're looking at 3.16 miles
[47:37] of sidewalk within the chemo subdivision.
[47:39] And yes, to comment on the amount needed for the other ones
[47:44] that could not be covered to this, we're
[47:46] looking at, again, this is not a quoted amount.
[47:48] but if I had to guesstimate on about we're looking
[47:51] ballpark of 25,000 additional in addition to the 150.
[47:54] So we're looking at 175 total is my rough estimate
[47:57] without having this go out to bid and so on and so forth.
[48:00] So that's kind of where we stand on what the repairs would be.
[48:03] Looks like a total of addresses affected
[48:06] or 236 next slide please Natasha.
[48:12] The amount of linear feet affected
[48:14] or 6,380 and a half linear feet.
[48:18] Again, this would take care of all sidewalks,
[48:21] not to some of the ones that were mentioned earlier.
[48:25] That gives you a total, this page on the top right gives you a total cost, a approximate cost.
[48:31] Average cost per address and an average cost per repair to repair all 2,193 areas that have some type of offset.
[48:38] Next slide, please.
[48:41] This technology is a little bit different.
[48:43] It is a padded technology where essentially, and I will paraphrase Mr. Beeson with happening here,
[48:49] essentially what they do is they come in and they shave the sidewalk down to make sure that it's no longer a trip hazard.
[48:53] So that is my opinion not, not, not Mr. Reason, don't know that of a company, but that's essentially what they do.
[48:59] These companies exist throughout the nation, and this is the way they do it.
[49:03] This page explains a little bit more of what the cost is usually for at that time of repair.
[49:08] And what the savings would be typically if you had what is called R and R, which is repair and or replace sidewalks.
[49:16] Next slide.
[49:18] So you're asking a little question?
[49:20] Yes sir.
[49:26] The five years and years
[49:36] are predictable because of the surface, but the mind is being
[49:41] this neighborhood that's never been made and it's never been made and it's never been
[49:47] so you're dealing with a little bit of deferred maintenance situation here.
[49:52] But if there are tree roots that are contributing, the panels could continue.
[50:00] We can't control what's going on below the ground. But with this time of repair, you are going to basically extend a service life of your sidewalk infrastructure. It could be that the ground has been dull, it's going to move and the repair will last for quite some time. But yeah, you can't predict what's going on. But the idea is using this kind of repair to extend a service life of your sidewalk grounds.
[50:28] Just to piggyback off of that on this slide that's on the street now, you do look at the number of addresses that do require complete what's called R&R.
[50:38] Those are 24 different of those and that image depicts what it is right if you notice that gap.
[50:43] That is a accurate picture of one of locations in chemoaks that shows you that this technology that this organization does does not fix that type of repair.
[50:52] That's an example of what an R&R would be there.
[50:56] So, just to give you an example, the same issue on the other image that's shown.
[51:00] Some of those areas are around infrastructure that does belong to WCID, which is why we've
[51:05] asked them to consider helping with this.
[51:07] I intend to take the same presentation to them at the next meeting, and I have asked them
[51:10] to add this to their agenda for consideration.
[51:13] Next slide.
[51:17] This is just more information that shows color code.
[51:20] There's an old portion of this that shows color code where the dots are that explain which
[51:25] ones are offset, which ones are an R&Rs, and which ones fall in those three categories that
[51:30] Mr. Beast and we'll talk about next slide.
[51:34] If you could see this color-coded area, that's a better explanation of which ones are
[51:39] where.
[51:39] So the red dot represents anything between three quarters of an inch to two inches, while the yellow
[51:45] is half an inch to three quarters of an inch, and then the green is one quarter of an inch
[51:49] to half an inch.
[51:50] So that's the three different categories Mr. Beast and we'll talk about, and it's separated
[51:54] because obviously those different amounts require that much of a difference.
[51:57] To answer your question, again, also going back to Councilman Rodgers, the question I was
[52:01] asked about longevity. Again, there's trees, there's infrastructure, there's moving playlists
[52:06] we know that happen here in the area. That may cause there to be some additional shifts, but
[52:10] also keep in mind for those bigger ones that are dotted in red, that three quarter to two
[52:15] inch, you're shaving the amount or the actual width of that sidewalk. So if it was a four
[52:22] sidewalk, and it's up to a two-inch amount. You're leaving only two inches of concrete
[52:26] left. So that's something to consider when we're making those changes. Okay, so I
[52:30] want everybody to understand what that means. The average sidewalk, and I don't know if
[52:33] it's true for those, if I'm a betting man, Mr. Beeson, or all those sidewalks, four inches?
[52:40] Probably not.
[52:42] Some of you will be free to have, you know, the two before that you've used one on the sidewalls a lot of times.
[52:49] You're going to be able to have less than four inches.
[52:52] A lot of municipal customers that use us might change that scope a little bit.
[52:57] We have done engineering studies on normal sidewalk boards of cutting out to two inches.
[53:04] And we generally feel really comfortable in cutting out to two inches because some of mine, municipal partners,
[53:10] have a cap to us at an inch and a half or an inch and three quarters.
[53:14] So we have the data now.
[53:16] So it's really easy to make those changes and scope as the city that feels the need to do.
[53:25] I would also be remiss that Ryan's probably going to throw things out of me if I don't mention this.
[53:29] Is that this would have to be properly procured.
[53:31] There are many ways to address sidewalks.
[53:33] You can do full repair on a place and everywhere you have a fix.
[53:36] There's technology where you can lift certain sidewalks and do certain things.
[53:39] So I want to understand that this is just one solution, and we brought it's the fastest and probably right now from based on what we've done so far.
[53:46] Most of the most economic we know would be versus full repair and replacement, obviously.
[53:51] So we want to bring this to the table to show what we've done so far on this.
[53:54] And would like to open the floor for any questions you may have.
[53:58] Thank you.
[53:58] I have a question.
[54:01] Go ahead.
[54:01] Go ahead.
[54:02] Call some of the rods.
[54:03] Go for it.
[54:04] I would just like
[54:14] to invite guests to meet at
[54:20] any part.
[54:20] So they generate about 130,000 dollars or about $5,000 dollars
[54:25] and sell them in a proper tax for the town.
[54:28] So you're talking about, in essence, right now,
[54:30] 380, 380, 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380 and 380.
[54:47] Did you have anything else?
[54:49] Council member brought us.
[54:53] All right, if I can, I want to say that I fully support.
[55:00] Court, working with on the sidewalks, especially things that are, for instance, that this trip hazard.
[55:11] My concern is I alleged that state law says, correct me from wrong, from the rep from a precision concrete cutting.
[55:23] You are not an engineering firm, correct?
[55:28] All right, I let state law says that any procurement, and this is not a professional contract,
[55:39] above X amount has to go out for bid.
[55:43] This is not, and I will fully say that it's an important thing, but I believe that we cannot
[55:56] In this scope, take this bid without going out because this is not an engineering firm without putting it out for bid.
[56:12] And again, and one more thing.
[56:15] Where's the money?
[56:16] As Councilman brought us, I always asked me, where's the money coming from?
[56:20] Because maybe I missed something when I was looking at the package.
[56:24] I did not see where it was imputed in this year's budget.
[56:30] Well, couldn't we split the budget, pay some of it for this fiscal year and pay some of it from the next year?
[56:39] We've got less than 30 days, and again, I believe the issue, the concern is that it's not following
[56:50] state law in the amount.
[56:55] So, it's 50.
[56:56] So I just wanted to answer a question.
[56:58] It is not budgeted.
[57:00] It is not a budgeted item.
[57:02] We were just asked to see if there was an opportunity
[57:04] to find out what we were looking at.
[57:06] And I wanted to, we had enough time to bring it back
[57:09] instead of just having open discussion
[57:10] to try to be as efficient as possible.
[57:12] So that's why there's no budget online amount.
[57:14] If this is something that you would choose to do,
[57:16] it would need to come from reserves.
[57:17] We don't have the wiggle room right now to do so.
[57:19] So that's out in the open, what we would do, this is the situation.
[57:23] Being that you're right at budget season right now, unless there was an additional change
[57:28] in any budget that we're trying to propose, that would be the actual situation, or we
[57:31] do a budget amendment after it's passed, but that's the answer to those questions.
[57:36] So just for everybody, I'm the one that asks Caesar to throw this on the agenda, and we
[57:41] discussed this needs to get, you know, standard guard roles for procurement, but we really
[57:46] needed a number. No one's ever put a number to what it's going to take to get the sidewalks.
[57:51] Everyone is, you know, to the comment made earlier, a lot of people have gone through the
[57:56] neighborhood and said, yeah, we'll do it and it just gets stuck in the mud. Whether it
[57:59] are procurement, where's the money come from, we're trying to lower taxes, all that stuff.
[58:05] The all of that is true. Ryan, how many days of operating do we have in reserves?
[58:13] In the general fund, it was that 317,000 or something like that, but we do have that rainy day
[58:22] of the growth fund.
[58:24] That's what I didn't want to do.
[58:26] And that's little over probably close to 3 million, little over 3 million right now.
[58:32] And we said, are we still at 80K in operating day Caesar?
[58:37] Roughly.
[58:38] Roughly.
[58:39] maybe 80K per day.
[58:43] That's some kind of question, sir.
[58:45] Yeah.
[58:45] I've just said to you that you can't remember the other
[58:47] thing.
[58:48] But there was like a million dollars in case you
[58:52] need to get put into free enters laying when we bought the
[58:55] property on a deco.
[58:57] That was one of the big reductions in general fund.
[59:00] The other thing is we keep putting the
[59:03] growth law in which was both the max out of 3 million and
[59:09] So we do have funds available, so for him, I have a chance like CPA and there's an
[59:15] artery, you have to stay the facts, and then it's the facts, but Council in the past
[59:20] we're all being included, because you've been here the whole 10 years has let that
[59:25] open for emergency.
[59:26] So we have a 3.8 million dollars, so we haven't got like seven or eight months of reserve
[59:36] I agree but I ask this question why are we not looking at other people that go to see what they can do?
[59:44] I've heard okay this may be a little off the wall, but I've seen commercials on TV that talk about preparing an uneven driveway and why couldn't that be done?
[59:56] There are a lot of people who are going to send her to deter her.
[1:00:00] This one option, you know. And it was for discussion because we have these numbers back. That is your directive tonight. If you want to look at other things, if you want to bring back other things, and also to discuss where the money might come from in the budget.
[1:00:17] We are a very well-off city in comparison to many others. We need to take into consideration the growth fund and et cetera.
[1:00:27] And I've got a motion after council movement.
[1:00:31] Yes, everybody can talk though.
[1:00:34] I didn't need it.
[1:00:35] Do you have a comparative, I mean this is a repair.
[1:00:38] And then you said there's like if you wanted to address it like fully replaced.
[1:00:42] Do we have a financial comparative of what that would fly?
[1:00:46] Testimates 600,000 dollars.
[1:00:48] And that's very rough estimate by the numbers that we're looked at.
[1:00:51] How many square feet?
[1:00:53] What it usually costs for that?
[1:00:54] I will also say, Rashard is at APWA this week.
[1:00:57] He was texting me just now, telling me
[1:00:59] that he's going to bring him back some other possibilities.
[1:01:01] But the reason why we wanted to get a number in place
[1:01:03] is because it was going to ask, great, well,
[1:01:06] what do you think is going to cost?
[1:01:07] Well, here's at least a number that we can say worst case scenario.
[1:01:09] There's a number to start with that we can say,
[1:01:12] hey, what does this look like?
[1:01:13] So that when we do put it out, and this number comes back,
[1:01:15] we know that worst case scenario, this is something we could go with.
[1:01:17] So we had this company come out here and do it.
[1:01:20] They service the entire region on sidewalk repairs.
[1:01:23] They're very well-known and they're a cost-effective way of fixing sidewalks that have 88 repair issues
[1:01:28] That's what they're known for the bare rabbit we can look at their information
[1:01:31] So that's the the action that we we took to bring this back also because if I'm going to go to
[1:01:36] Heema HOA HOA Kima
[1:01:40] Kima
[1:01:40] Oaks HOA and asked for assistance or WCID
[1:01:43] What's the first question to ask me how much are we talking about so now I can go to them and say worst case scenario
[1:01:48] We're looking at about 150 to 175k
[1:01:50] What does that look like split three ways? 50 50 50 there we go if that's what we were
[1:01:55] So that's why we took this exercise to do that so far because it's been a topic of discussion.
[1:02:00] Thank you very much.
[1:02:02] Does anybody have any questions for the contractor?
[1:02:04] I'm going to ask him respectfully to hang up before I make my motion.
[1:02:08] Do you have a, you said that the actually the repair and a replace, for instance, that large photo that show the quite a bit of variance between the side, the two junction of the sidewalks?
[1:02:23] Do you have any estimates?
[1:02:30] Because I realize you don't do it yourself, but in your scope of work as the city administrator,
[1:02:38] Yala, Yala, so well-renowned in this field.
[1:02:48] typically with place, we don't offer that as a service.
[1:02:52] While we'll say, when you're considering other options, we oftentimes work hand-in-hand with other contractors,
[1:03:03] when it's the city, we're just another tool in your toolbox.
[1:03:07] So, for the lifting, you could lift on a certain ones.
[1:03:12] The larger ones, we shave the smaller ones.
[1:03:15] You're moving up place, those that are in the worst shape.
[1:03:18] So there are a lot of times the best approach is to use an approach with multiple tools, multiple solutions, not test or not.
[1:03:29] Mr. Bison, just to kind of I think maybe help with the question that was intended to be asked.
[1:03:34] The 24 requested R&Rs. How much without, where I was holding you to it, if you had to guess the main amount of locations and so on and so on and so on.
[1:03:43] square feet, we're talking about that require that 754 and a half square feet of panels, what that would cause ball part to fix.
[1:03:52] About 15,000 based on average square foot crossing.
[1:03:58] You guys may get a better rail network to put it out to this, but about 15,000.
[1:04:04] Is that materials in labor?
[1:04:07] Yes.
[1:04:08] Okay. Thank you.
[1:04:09] One last question for you, what was your dirty intent?
[1:04:13] Are you in the lab board?
[1:04:15] Yes, they are.
[1:04:16] We are on five board.
[1:04:18] We are on that tip.
[1:04:19] You're going to have to tell what that is.
[1:04:21] Some of us.
[1:04:22] That's what I'm saying.
[1:04:23] We're going to explain that because.
[1:04:27] Some would understand.
[1:04:29] With regards to procurement,
[1:04:31] five board is a purchasing quality
[1:04:33] and as well as tips.
[1:04:35] And it is an avenue for vendors such as us to go in and bid and go through the state requirements on the bid that they put out.
[1:04:49] And so the good portion of the work that I do for municipalities, all around the state of Texas, are done based off of these purchasing cooperative contracts we've already.
[1:05:02] What company name are you listed under for that? Because I, I'm guessing I'm looking at the wrong spot, because I checked and could not find your company's name on the cop trollers on the cop trollers.
[1:05:20] It's a precision concrete cutting, is the name of the company war.
[1:05:26] I don't know about the comptroller, might be a precision sidewalks,
[1:05:29] and we'll see, we do because this has precision concrete cutting.
[1:05:33] But with regards to what you would sign on byboard,
[1:05:38] or what you would find on the tips website,
[1:05:41] it would be precision concrete cutting.
[1:05:43] Thank you.
[1:05:44] And Kelvin, when we did ask you that information,
[1:05:46] log in forward, that didn't bring it today.
[1:05:48] Thank you.
[1:05:50] Any more comments or discussion before Mr. Beeson logs off?
[1:05:55] No, the only comment since we're talking about by board, we are members of by board. I believe we're also members of tips we have to confirm.
[1:06:04] Any other comments or questions from Mr. Beeson?
[1:06:09] Thank you so much for coming in logging in tonight and allowing council to ask questions. We appreciate it.
[1:06:17] All right,
[1:06:22] I make a motion to
[1:06:30] allocate not to, I make a motion not to exceed $200,000
[1:06:35] out of the growth fund to be allocated a key amount of sidewalks, pending the bidding,
[1:06:42] pending Caesar bringing her a resharg bringing back competitive quotes for the project.
[1:06:49] We have a motion by Councilman Oliver, a second by Councilwoman Dorn, all those in
[1:06:56] favor.
[1:06:57] Any opposed?
[1:06:59] No.
[1:07:01] Councilman brought his vote against.
[1:07:04] Motion carries.
[1:07:07] And may or may I would just to be clear, the Councilman's motion established not to exceed
[1:07:15] you may, but does not commit the city at this point to any one method or one contract, correct?
[1:07:26] That is correct.
[1:07:27] Thank you.
[1:07:32] Next, on the agenda, 12B consideration and possible action regarding hotel occupancy tax.
[1:07:41] Also known as hot funds, sponsorship applications.
[1:07:44] You have a piece of paper with some yellow highlighting on it, it's what we have given to in the past and how much and who is proposed for this year, etc.
[1:07:59] I believe that Devin and Caesar worked on this up until a few hours ago, so they're probably best answering your questions if you have any questions and or comments.
[1:08:11] before we start, if I can explain why those three of those are highlighted, these are some
[1:08:17] that applied last year, but may have not made the cut off to apply this year.
[1:08:23] So we made that recommendation, they're listed on there as possible proposed.
[1:08:28] Had they applied or whatever, so you would have seen what it would have looked like if everybody
[1:08:31] would have applied.
[1:08:33] After speaking to some of the folks that did not apply, they have expressed an interest
[1:08:36] in applying.
[1:08:37] They just had a problem with the application and so forth.
[1:08:41] So if you would like to take that in a consideration today,
[1:08:44] only because some of those are long-standing events,
[1:08:46] being Yadigraud, the crew to lock event,
[1:08:49] as well as a three brothers running.
[1:08:51] The Horde card tournament is the tournament
[1:08:53] that was held recently.
[1:08:55] That is an estimated amount of what it would cost
[1:08:57] possibly to rent the facility.
[1:08:58] And so and so for similar to what we did this past year,
[1:09:00] where they were given that as a pretty much no cost
[1:09:04] use through a incentive for the event that they held this past year.
[1:09:08] Otherwise, if you noticed, a total amount that was applied for was 21677-1704.
[1:09:14] We have $100,000 budgeted, and the estimate that's shown there on the proposed is a breakdown
[1:09:19] of where we are considering if you wanted to take our proposals or make any changes to it.
[1:09:25] The columnist says adopted would be whatever you'd like to assign towards that.
[1:09:29] Obviously, without assigning anything towards the ones in yellow, because they have yet to formally
[1:09:32] apply. Historically, you wanted to leave certain amount of cushion as well for any event that
[1:09:37] may come up throughout the year. That might be special events or, well, obviously, all
[1:09:41] special events. But then it comes out of the blue that you might want to present. So that's
[1:09:45] why you want to keep that in mind if you wanted to reduce any of these amounts in order to
[1:09:48] leave without threshold, whatever it may be. But you did budget 100K for 2027 in our budget to do
[1:09:54] So we're asking for your approval to proceed.
[1:10:00] I have a question about the food and wine festival. Are you still playing on doing this under the bridge?
[1:10:11] Or is that the idea still? I know you talked about it last year.
[1:10:16] Can you go to the mic?
[1:10:19] Yes.
[1:10:26] It's my understanding that there's a development project underneath the bridge.
[1:10:30] any completion of that. Of course, we all know those projects tend to extend themselves.
[1:10:38] That would be ideal for us to have it under the bridge, but if not, then it would be generally
[1:10:44] a multiple lots that we can use around the city that would potentially right now be under
[1:10:54] the discretion of the boardwalk of the boardwalk currently right now that we would want
[1:11:01] to utilize. So, yes, underneath the bridge would be the coolest thing for a festival to
[1:11:06] go, but we'd definitely figure out something else.
[1:11:10] Yeah, I don't think, I don't think the person who required to get approval for Park and Law
[1:11:15] used to be an issue, but I worry about text stop being under there. If they let the boat ramp
[1:11:19] January, not that they've ever hit a date they said they're going to hit, but should they do that?
[1:11:25] There's no way they're going to be done by October, all right. So I just I feel like if we're going to do it,
[1:11:32] I think we need to pivot now. You know, then we're going to pivot.
[1:11:38] I mean, I think that's an easy enough hurdle of jump.
[1:11:38] I mean, I need to do one thing.
[1:11:41] I mean, I need to do one thing.
[1:11:43] I mean, we do one in spring and one fall.
[1:11:46] I mean, I mean, I don't understand.
[1:11:47] I don't know how to make a call or maybe each other.
[1:11:51] I don't know what to say.
[1:11:52] I mean, that's a good idea.
[1:11:56] So I mean, I need some coordination here.
[1:12:00] Because I'm like, you're ready to do that.
[1:12:01] Yeah, I mean, that's, I mean, I think we can,
[1:12:04] I think that's an easy enough hurdle of jump.
[1:12:06] Like, I just, I just, I just, really,
[1:12:09] where is the street, the street where I heard just close my mouth
[1:12:12] and do it right there, right there, right there.
[1:12:13] Like, I'll show you, because we're out of a condition in my head
[1:12:16] that we don't have a city parking in y'all's parking as well.
[1:12:21] I mean, I'll leave that to the organizers of the event.
[1:12:23] They're the ones doing the work.
[1:12:25] But I, I just worry we're going to, if we need to pivot,
[1:12:28] we should pivot sooner than later, because they're going to be in the way.
[1:12:32] And I'm well aware that we're going to pivot and then they're
[1:12:34] going to let a following year and we didn't need to pivot at all,
[1:12:36] because that's just how text dot does is dirty, but I just wanted to make everybody aware
[1:12:44] that the boat ramp may not be available for public consumption down there pending text
[1:12:50] dot.
[1:12:50] They told us that we're going to let that project in January.
[1:12:55] It's been my observation, and please chime in on this, that the boardwalk actually plans
[1:13:02] their calendar anywhere from six months to a year to advance.
[1:13:06] So you actually have dates, I believe, for your spring and fall
[1:13:12] fest to ensure that there's no overlap.
[1:13:20] Yeah, we can get that out.
[1:13:21] The dates for next year haven't been completely finalized, but they're within a week or two.
[1:13:25] Pick a weekend either way, but yeah, we can coordinate around the pressure.
[1:13:29] And my proposal with the chemo wine and food festival is that since we had great success with the
[1:13:36] Chunkertree Chopinite that essentially turns into the chemo wine and food festival,
[1:13:43] Chunkertree is its own separate event that we could still do in that parking lot but to
[1:13:49] have a bigger draw and something a little bit different would be to have this based on
[1:13:57] headlining acts, rodeo acts, all the money that's allocated would essentially go into
[1:14:02] getting headliners that are going to bring huge following since we really need to organize
[1:14:07] it so that there's multiple lots and a bigger space than we're currently using for the
[1:14:12] trunk and treat in the lighthouse district.
[1:14:16] Thanks Tony.
[1:14:17] I was only a question I had for your items.
[1:14:20] I'll go through this real quick.
[1:14:21] I'm obviously going to skip the boardwalk piece, y'all can cheat that up however you choose,
[1:14:25] But I'm good with most of this.
[1:14:30] I think the magazine supporting the chemo living and getting it
[1:14:35] and hotel rooms makes a lot of sense.
[1:14:37] It's a quality publication.
[1:14:38] A lot of people like it.
[1:14:40] It's grown.
[1:14:41] I think it makes a lot of sense.
[1:14:42] The line festival, you can chew that up,
[1:14:44] I brought up my concern.
[1:14:47] Trunker tree, I don't know how I feel about that one yet.
[1:14:51] But it just feels weird trying to monetize an event
[1:14:54] that the community has always had for free.
[1:14:55] It just feels a little kind of weird.
[1:14:58] I should just, my two cents.
[1:15:01] Children of the fallen soldiers, I mean, he store, well, last couple years, I don't think we've given him any. So,
[1:15:07] I used to be a bigger number, puts the, puts the families in the hotels.
[1:15:13] Honestly, this is the first time I've seen the AV and protection group on here or whatever.
[1:15:19] Fishing, I think, makes a lot of sense. I'll skip that one, chamber stuff, both parade, that's a big night.
[1:15:23] I think, makes a lot of sense for the chamber.
[1:15:25] So, I got a question on Teabone Toms when we get to it.
[1:15:30] Do we know the ones that just had issues, do we know, are these the numbers that they're
[1:15:34] going to ask for or do we know what those are going to be?
[1:15:37] Those are rough estimates based on what they've asked for in the past.
[1:15:40] But today, and she would live with the sign number.
[1:15:45] That's what she was given or created a lack of a given last year.
[1:15:51] That makes sense.
[1:15:52] Tough as 10k, you don't want to scrap that, by all means, you've been going to hurt my
[1:15:57] feelings.
[1:15:58] Card tournament, I think makes a lot of sense, that seemed to have a good draw in his growing.
[1:16:03] I know, I mean, I was told he's moving into a larger space here sooner than later, here
[1:16:09] in the city, so he's also partnering with the city on the Pokémon anniversary, I mean,
[1:16:15] I think that's going to be a draw, so I think that makes a lot of sense, I mean, boat
[1:16:22] I don't know how I feel about the T-Bone Tom thing, let you all kind of debate that and then I'll stay out of the firework discussion.
[1:16:29] I'll also refuse myself from voting since the board walks on here for you.
[1:16:35] I just wanted to comment to remind everybody that everything highlighted in yellow would not be something that we would require or request for funding today.
[1:16:43] The other amounts do total about, I think, 82-5.
[1:16:46] I remember the math correctly.
[1:16:48] You do have 100K allocated.
[1:16:50] to answer the question on T-bone tombs, one of the things that we're pursuing is we are pursuing
[1:16:55] to become a music friendly city and bless you and one of those items to do that, one
[1:17:00] of our stable is to do that would be T-bone tombs in order to make sure they continue having
[1:17:05] live music entertainment to be able to acquire that certification and to hopefully encourage
[1:17:09] other businesses to also do the same. But it's never been number four, so it is, they
[1:17:14] applied and that's for your consideration as to what you'd like to do. Obviously, if you noticed,
[1:17:18] We weren't able to allocate for everybody because the amounts were greater than what we have available.
[1:17:24] So we try to separate and spread the wealth a little bit as to where everybody's request were.
[1:17:31] We're asking for an ounce to help us fill in the adopted design side all the way down to the yellow.
[1:17:37] We take a vote and we move forward.
[1:17:41] The 995 includes the yellow?
[1:17:43] Yes, ma'am.
[1:17:53] We've addressed a several ways in the past.
[1:17:55] We have had a workshop on it.
[1:17:59] I was hoping that wasn't necessary, but that's also an option
[1:18:02] is to meet far to the next meeting and workshop this
[1:18:06] with more information if you so choose to do that.
[1:18:11] How much do we have in reserve?
[1:18:14] Like if we're allocating roughly 100,000, if we follow this
[1:18:18] as it is, what do we have in reserve for things that come up?
[1:18:22] I mean, we'd have to come back to that and check to get you to that, but I mean, I don't
[1:18:27] want to put around on this spot, but we'll get you to that.
[1:18:29] Not sure if we had what percentage we had in reserve for things that we may not be aware of.
[1:18:35] I mean, that's why we allocated about this amount.
[1:18:37] Okay.
[1:18:37] And also, I'll, all of this is pending the budget being passed and voted on, so I don't
[1:18:41] want to be preempted to that.
[1:18:43] But I also want to make sure that you had that, that this in mind is to what these were.
[1:18:48] Yeah, the fun balance for the hot, I can't throw that on the top of the head, but I know that I think I'm going to ask a little over a million, so I'll write it out of me.
[1:19:01] Okay, I don't know.
[1:19:03] I tend to talk a lot, so if you want to go down your list, I did read the items and so I have a question on the best version media.
[1:19:15] When I read the application, and I did read it, it said that we were putting the items
[1:19:21] your publication in the hotel, so they're already at the hotel.
[1:19:30] So, correct me from wrong.
[1:19:32] When advertisers put their information in it, that's a paid ad for your organization, correct?
[1:19:42] So it does not necessarily put in local, unless they buy ad space with you, it does not include local ad space for organizations in the area.
[1:20:00] So I had, that's why I had some concerns, because my understanding of what hot funds is is to heads and bids. If there are already there, so I, I'm not, if I could speak on that, I think the spirit of the language there was the cameo living magazine, especially if you look at it from a place making perspective, that magazine operates as a de facto visitor's guide.
[1:20:29] And so it's not having the magazines in the hotel lobby.
[1:20:34] It's having a magazine in every hotel room.
[1:20:36] That was the relation.
[1:20:38] The came a living does a great job of emphasizing all the great things that we have in town,
[1:20:42] local businesses, events, etc.
[1:20:44] And the idea was to expand their reach so that that information is more available to tourists.
[1:20:51] Thank you.
[1:20:53] So I'll go down my list.
[1:20:55] Ben, for I don't have, I don't have a problem with the best vision.
[1:20:59] And actually, I would have liked to have seen because especially with your
[1:21:07] partnership with
[1:21:09] the Lucid, because those are James Beer winning chefs.
[1:21:16] I was here with the city recognized Chef Yeh, so I'm actually interested in bumping that
[1:21:26] up and taking fall and soldiers off. They've been here in the past and it's a war
[1:21:35] of the organization. They're planning a war of the organizations.
[1:21:43] Their applications
[1:21:44] really have been to, I mean, it was for gift cards. It was to pay the, so if we want
[1:21:55] help vets and give them a great time, that's fine, but I think the Americans speak to this because she was here would do during that time for him.
[1:22:07] So to me they're moving around money as opposed to bringing his and vets. Now again, this is just the opinion of me.
[1:22:16] So, I would like to see that amount of $2,500 of bad amount moved up to chemo-1 best so
[1:22:29] that they would have $5,000.
[1:22:34] Then a zero for the art, if you want to give a token amount to the children of volunteers,
[1:22:43] soldiers, definitely on the elite fishing, and the came aboard well, get 35,000 last year.
[1:22:55] And that's kind of a no brainer because they do provide support multiple times through the year.
[1:23:08] I was a little concerned.
[1:23:11] Just to clarify, they did not receive that a lot last year.
[1:23:14] It went down.
[1:23:15] It's gone down over the years.
[1:23:17] But it was not that amount.
[1:23:18] It was 19,000 is what was allocated last year.
[1:23:21] Before that it was 30 before that it was 50.
[1:23:25] But that's not that much that's listed there.
[1:23:28] That's why we tried to bait that recommendation to stay kind of in line.
[1:23:31] So 19 last year.
[1:23:33] And so we're going to 15, basically 15,000 this year.
[1:23:38] 16,000 is that's the recommendation again just based on what we're turn has been because of how successful that was
[1:23:45] We had several businesses email us in support of keeping the firework on Friday night because of how well they did some of them including hotels
[1:23:53] Okay, and on and I know this is going to probably get me in hot water
[1:24:01] So I'll join you in hot water for two bones Tom. I've read the application. It's the pay for the hotels
[1:24:07] for the musicians, so that, in my opinion, defeats the purpose of it, but what I would
[1:24:16] like to suggest and the communications director can speak to this in that, even literature
[1:24:25] that you sent out, there's money from the state. And if they could join in, and they said
[1:24:31] they were on, I did not go in depth to the applications, but it said they were only five.
[1:24:37] You did not have to be declared a safe, I mean, a music city to do it.
[1:24:45] So to work hand in hand with them, to apply for those funds from the state, and I respectfully
[1:24:53] say zero, the two vote time, and I've already told you about the others.
[1:25:00] But otherwise, I have no qualms with it. But it didn't make sense to pay because we're doing the same thing
[1:25:08] with the following surge, because the other thing was, I believe, when we looked at the,
[1:25:28] there was only
[1:25:29] application because I did read it so I know I talked too much but that's it.
[1:25:35] A couple of things the boardwalk was not the one that mentioned that they were happy
[1:25:38] with the fireworks.
[1:25:39] It was actually the Marriott.
[1:25:41] The thing about T-bone tongs you right, they had not applied in the past, thing about
[1:25:45] fallen soldiers, dating back to when we did fund them, they were funded in 2223 and 24.
[1:25:51] The amount in 22 was 15,000, the amount in 23 was 21,800, the amount in 24 was 23,592.
[1:25:58] We thought of the modest 7,500, as a suggestion, but again, it is whatever you would like to do on that route.
[1:26:05] But we have not funded them in two years.
[1:26:07] Correct.
[1:26:08] We have not funded them in two years.
[1:26:10] I don't think they've applied in those prior two years.
[1:26:12] They have not applied and they'd like to apply in this year.
[1:26:16] They are partnering with the boardwalk to try to offset some of those costs.
[1:26:19] And part of what they're doing with that is, or attempting to, I should say,
[1:26:23] I don't know that for a fact, but they're attempting to reach out to the boardwalk.
[1:26:26] But the major help that they need is not actually not for the hotels, as I was told, was more to try to make sure we can get those veterans here.
[1:26:34] Their families here and so is more of a transportation request to get folks here.
[1:26:38] And we're also trying to work with them to get them cheaper transportation so they continue to have their event here within the key limits.
[1:26:45] It is a pretty well-intended event and it is part of the whole entire Veterans Day weekend commemoration that we do as well as the event that we do with the chamber and so on and so forth.
[1:26:55] for transparency the years they didn't apply was because they missed the deadline.
[1:26:59] Well, just for those that weren't here, I hope they're all always.
[1:27:03] And David, maybe in protection, we didn't fund that in your last year.
[1:27:07] So that is the name of the applicant, the organization that they used to fill out the form.
[1:27:15] It's the party parents that do their weekend.
[1:27:18] So I mean it's an event that's been funded prior from what I understand.
[1:27:22] But did we fund it last year?
[1:27:24] No.
[1:27:25] We did not.
[1:27:26] I did not.
[1:27:30] We won one notable group that is missing that was funded in the past.
[1:27:34] Recorded was the outlaw challenge.
[1:27:37] They have not.
[1:27:38] They did not apply this year.
[1:27:40] And they were recommended for funding last year.
[1:27:42] So that is where we stand with that.
[1:27:44] And that's why we were able to move some of these dollars around.
[1:27:46] To eventually have.
[1:27:47] It's pretty relaxed.
[1:27:49] They've always applied.
[1:27:51] So I know we have comments from one council member.
[1:27:53] As anybody else, I would like to make suggestions for any of these so we can fill them in.
[1:27:58] Well, I don't necessarily get a vote, but I will make some comments.
[1:28:05] I agree with Councilman Oliver.
[1:28:09] The trucker treatment van has always been a city event for locals.
[1:28:14] I don't think that I would like to see that.
[1:28:20] monetize, so speak,
[1:28:23] some of the ones that we have not funded in the past year or two.
[1:28:28] I'm okay with passing on that.
[1:28:30] I think that, you know, the annual boat parade is almost a given.
[1:28:35] We do that every year.
[1:28:36] I think we've had a lot of success with fireworks and the elite fishing series.
[1:28:41] I would support CREDILAC as well, and we have any comments down here.
[1:28:52] I'll just echo support for Councilman Thorne's recommendation to move the 2,500
[1:28:58] from children and small and soldiers to the Kema wine food festival.
[1:29:02] I'll give that to you.
[1:29:04] I'm sorry, just for whoever case, he's going to move it from small and soldiers to where?
[1:29:09] The food wine festival?
[1:29:10] to take some food in line 1 to 5,000, and then drop phones over to the podcast.
[1:29:15] Yes, sir.
[1:29:15] I'm good with that recommendation, OK?
[1:29:18] Devon, do you have on these different groups?
[1:29:21] Do you have projections on how many people it brings to Kima?
[1:29:26] It varies.
[1:29:27] They do their best to explain the expected impact in the applications.
[1:29:32] OK.
[1:29:33] And some of the impacts vary.
[1:29:35] Some of them do bring a decent amount of people into town.
[1:29:38] some of them are paying for the lodging of people to come to town.
[1:29:42] It's hard to, I guess, might a better question would be, do we have anything in retrospect
[1:29:48] from hotel usage when we have these events where we see like increase day and capacity?
[1:29:58] We do have a tool, I believe that we could do.
[1:30:00] Please use to look at some of the dates of prior events. The one thing that I've also encouraged, David, applicant, to do that I've talked to personally, is the more that we can ask them to at least attempt to pursue hotel room blocks. That provides pretty accurate tracking data and shows kind of a commitment to staying in Kima. So I've encouraged them to do that going forward.
[1:30:22] Okay.
[1:30:24] And then.
[1:30:25] Also, it's very odd that it actually reached out to me.
[1:30:28] The farmers was like, they supported that.
[1:30:32] And so.
[1:30:33] I also support taking her.
[1:30:35] Councilman Thorne's recommendation to take Teev on Tom's down to see her.
[1:30:38] Yeah.
[1:30:39] If I was voting today, I would scream.
[1:30:42] In some of these, they don't stay in hotels.
[1:30:45] Maybe some of the participants do, but I know the fishing series.
[1:30:51] Well, I don't have their boats and their trailers, and they want to be somewhere nearer that, you know, so it's, it's just, that was an anomaly because
[1:31:01] they have so much equipment.
[1:31:05] And is there a reason that we reduce the boardwalk amount?
[1:31:11] I think last year because of the amount of applicants that we had, we wanted to spread the wealth a little bit.
[1:31:16] So I think that that was the consideration for doing so, but traditionally we went from three years ago back in
[1:31:22] 2024, we funded at 50K, 2025, 30K, then 19K.
[1:31:27] I think it was a number of applicants came in,
[1:31:28] and a number of events started to grow.
[1:31:30] And again, I keep saying this every year,
[1:31:33] this is going to grow, right?
[1:31:35] Because we're becoming a destination
[1:31:37] for a lot of different things.
[1:31:38] And so I think that you'll see this number change gradually.
[1:31:42] Yeah, I see the debris of the fact that
[1:31:45] on Tuesdays come come on the world, right?
[1:31:49] latest expected date as it right now is April.
[1:31:55] Yes.
[1:31:55] Yes.
[1:31:56] We're going to come forward.
[1:31:58] I'm going to come forward.
[1:32:00] Entices.
[1:32:01] Something like April afterwards.
[1:32:04] And it correct me if I'm wrong.
[1:32:06] Didn't we change the rules a bit and you're or so ago where they're paid based on
[1:32:13] receipts.
[1:32:14] Correct.
[1:32:14] Correct.
[1:32:15] We used to do it several years ago.
[1:32:18] Correct.
[1:32:18] Some of them have some time to ask for like, hey can we get at least a partial deposit up front because we know that've been established events
[1:32:25] Whatever the case is we know that the receipts that they have established themselves. We can make an exception for that
[1:32:29] But yes, all final payments are not done until receipts exceed those amounts
[1:32:34] That's the policy we put in last year from that mistaken
[1:32:39] So just to kind of build the rest of the sheet out
[1:32:43] Looks like obviously I put in the sounds of me like everybody supported the bullet parade
[1:32:47] The other item that's on here would be party parrots to fill in, pretty much the only ones we have to fill in is party parrots in the boardwalk if I'm not mistaken.
[1:32:57] And again, whatever you want to do for top at the best version media for that amount.
[1:33:04] Again, I know that historically black to leave some in case you want to maybe increase some of these events later on down the line when you get closer.
[1:33:11] Or if you want to add new events like I said, there's a number of events that have not turned in yet usually they historically.
[1:33:16] support, but also leaving anything for what I call any big fairs that may come down to the
[1:33:21] pipe.
[1:33:22] As we know.
[1:33:23] The last column is what we've been discussing this.
[1:33:26] A doctor, yes, ma'am.
[1:33:28] Does anyone have a boardwalk number for fireworks that they would like to suggest that
[1:33:36] most could agree on?
[1:33:41] I personally hate the fireworks because my dog has anxiety.
[1:33:46] But it brings a lot of people to town, however I recognize the benefits of it, we'll get you some little ear mess.
[1:33:54] Yeah, we have little drugs for him to take on Friday.
[1:33:59] But I think we ask a lot of the boardwalk, and they help us with sales tax and they help us draw, so I'm not opposed to actually bumping that to 40,000.
[1:34:14] And because there is return on investment there.
[1:34:20] Well, not just that, to chime in on that also.
[1:34:23] Keep in mind that they're not the only ones that benefit from it, right?
[1:34:25] Because when the boardwalks having stuff on Friday night,
[1:34:28] all the businesses in the area benefit from it.
[1:34:30] So it's not only like we've got 40,000 on the table for that item.
[1:34:34] Again, we're just typing these in to try to keep a number going.
[1:34:37] That leaves us with party parents.
[1:34:41] and the key-mo living item as the only two vacant spots
[1:34:44] that I'm not mistaken at this time.
[1:34:46] I'm going to say this about the boardwalk.
[1:34:50] Here we're telling you how far it works out there.
[1:34:52] The residents of the Huntington.
[1:34:54] It pulls chairs out from around on the veranda.
[1:34:58] They bring snacks.
[1:35:03] So, it's great quee to be a party not unless it's raining or some kind of people in every little pocket park.
[1:35:11] They have to eat before or after.
[1:35:14] But it's also good to know that it's a good community development.
[1:35:17] It's the fact that the senior's are doing that.
[1:35:19] I know that folks are going out on their boton Friday nights to go see the farmers as well.
[1:35:23] I know that's not in line with our hot parameters, but it does help that on the back end.
[1:35:28] does help support community development.
[1:35:30] So I leave this party parents and keep
[1:35:32] living to make a RGB best version video, best version
[1:35:37] media to make your recommendations.
[1:35:44] Because it's no, and again, I'm, I just have a version
[1:35:52] to, they're both being a pay revenue for them.
[1:35:56] So I would like to suggest 4,000 for it if you've
[1:35:59] got to put a number to it.
[1:36:00] for the best version media best version, okay?
[1:36:05] Any comments from the rest of my council members?
[1:36:10] The only I was going to say that if you kept it at the recommended amount so we have right now of 6,000 and 2,500, it drives us to 85,000.
[1:36:17] But again, it is your will as to what you'd like to do.
[1:36:20] But if you'd like to heat it as a suggestion of dropping that from our recommended 6,000 to 4,000, the only one left would be party parents.
[1:36:26] And are we not going to consider any of the ones that didn't make the application?
[1:36:31] As of right now, no, because they have not applied yet, we can bring those back to you.
[1:36:34] Or if you give me the authority to approve up to the amount that are suggested, then we can
[1:36:38] avoid those separated gen items.
[1:36:40] Should they apply?
[1:36:42] And that could lead way, that 15,000 that's not allocated gives staff that leeway to do so.
[1:36:52] And I have a slightly stupid question to ask, what is the hold for the card tournament?
[1:37:00] That is the...
[1:37:00] Go ahead.
[1:37:02] That is a tournament that is done with trading card, and we have an expert here that
[1:37:05] can probably speak of it, but it is a trading card tournament that does take place where you
[1:37:10] can compete with several different people with trading cards.
[1:37:13] That is a good summary.
[1:37:15] They're located over there next to Lumere, the coffee shop, and they're busy all the
[1:37:26] I will say that the current amount right now, if you were to pencil in 2,500 for party
[1:37:31] parents, if you were to pencil 25,500 there, would draft the total to 83,000, the total
[1:37:37] amount that is pending is 17,000, which would bring you exactly to 100k. Should that happen
[1:37:44] Do you have a motion of sorts for me so we have that I make a motion that we accept
[1:37:52] our edited amounts that Caesar has captured on his worksheet?
[1:37:58] And that are on the screen now.
[1:37:59] The edits that we've made on the screen.
[1:38:00] Okay.
[1:38:01] And do you want to include in that motion the ones that traditionally apply that we could still consider
[1:38:08] to a certain amount, or do you want to not do that at all?
[1:38:15] Can we come back at that one, or?
[1:38:18] It's up to you as far as the gen items are concerned.
[1:38:20] But if you wanted to do that, your agenda, your motion,
[1:38:22] not that I would tell you what to do, would be to approve the adopted draft
[1:38:26] that is on the screen and give the city administrative authority to address
[1:38:30] the others as applications to come in.
[1:38:33] Okay, so I'm going to amend the motion.
[1:38:34] I make a motion to approve the worksheet that is on the screen for everyone that we have identified.
[1:38:49] We have a second.
[1:38:50] So we have a motion by Councilman Weeland Councilwoman Weeland.
[1:38:55] And a second by Councilman or all those in favor.
[1:39:00] Any opposed?
[1:39:03] We have on no and the rest of the armadaist solution and one outstanding so we have three
[1:39:11] and five we're in motion carries and Mayor just for when these items do come up and we'll
[1:39:17] make sure that council is aware thank you very much okay I've got to figure out where
[1:39:21] was 12C
[1:39:27] next on the agenda consideration possible action to approve resolution 2026-34
[1:39:34] or a resolution to update the City of Pima Texas V schedule, I believe that it is in your packet, and I believe Noah,
[1:39:47] did I skip some?
[1:39:50] No, we may want to.
[1:39:53] And the Vs are listed more in the back of that area.
[1:40:07] Mayer, one of the practices that we'd like to do is to refresh any fees every two years, whether
[1:40:11] any changes or not. So on evening years, we would like to present any updated fee schedules for consideration.
[1:40:17] This has been a fee schedule that includes a few minor changes throughout some of our permitting side.
[1:40:23] But also, it does incorporate now being able to rent some of our parks facilities that were never technically on there before.
[1:40:30] So it adopts it all through that one fee schedule.
[1:40:32] And I think the page that if you look at 374 and 375, you can see the permit fees that we
[1:40:40] have currently, and then the proposed permit fees, and all of them go up from $50 to, you
[1:40:47] know, 350 or 400. They vary in amounts all the way down. I went and did the math today
[1:40:52] and looked at them. And of course, the largest increase is the new commercial construction.
[1:41:00] That's an increase of roughly 6,000, but the rest of them are all in the $50 or $355,000,000,000,000
[1:41:15] ,000.
[1:41:32] I think it's close where it is today.
[1:41:39] And I did have that as a lot of work over a long period of time.
[1:41:43] We appreciate it very much.
[1:41:45] I have two comments.
[1:41:48] We'll kind of two and a half.
[1:41:53] The parks.
[1:41:56] The last time I looked at the agreement with the county.
[1:42:02] Because it is a county park.
[1:42:06] It's my opinion that it's states in the contract that we cannot charge for the use of, for instance, the 57 acres.
[1:42:22] Well, again, the last time, and I've slept a few nights since I looked at that contract, but that would have to be addressed.
[1:42:31] And in addition,
[1:42:36] when I found it a little ambiguous, I am all four, for instance, and
[1:42:42] for full disclosure, I am a part of an organization that has used the community center.
[1:42:54] I think we've used it once in the past three years, prior to that we would do it every
[1:42:58] here, because it was Martin Luther King.
[1:43:01] They are service, a celebration for full disclosure.
[1:43:07] It's ambiguous on when they pay the cleaning fee.
[1:43:12] I'm not against it, but I think it needs to be in there.
[1:43:17] So the organizations are not shocked with, oh,
[1:43:23] OK, we want you to pay the cleaning fee.
[1:43:26] It should be some method of doing it in addition, and we've had some with a give-more foundation,
[1:43:36] and which I am not associated with, but it is a 501C3 on social media.
[1:43:44] They have used the chambers to display their donations and correct me if I'm wrong.
[1:43:54] They're being their store and they're good when they have the major drives in City of Facilities
[1:44:00] Up above the community center, and I could be wrong.
[1:44:04] I lit.
[1:44:06] I was part of that MOU.
[1:44:10] So, but just a little bit of, because we've got the seniors, we've got the Lions.
[1:44:19] So, when that fee is imposed, because we don't want to put them, they're very small organizations.
[1:44:24] And I can't speak for give more, but they're very small organizations and have limited budget.
[1:44:31] So looking at when that's charged.
[1:44:33] I just think that should not just be, oh, oh, by the way, give me $300 for cleaning.
[1:44:40] And I think that it's not right, but just a little bit more direction on that.
[1:44:46] That's all I had on that.
[1:44:49] Those three items.
[1:44:53] Any other comments or discussion?
[1:45:00] Do we have a motion on floor?
[1:45:06] It's resolution 20264.
[1:45:11] I make a motion to approve resolution 20264 as stand.
[1:45:18] All those in favour?
[1:45:20] Well, we have a motion by councilwoman Weeland.
[1:45:23] A second by councilman, more.
[1:45:25] All those in favour?
[1:45:26] Aye. Any opposed?
[1:45:28] Aye, post.
[1:45:30] Natasha, did you get all that?
[1:45:35] I know you all did all the work.
[1:45:38] Good job, ladies.
[1:45:40] Good job.
[1:45:40] For a point of reference, Mayor, I would like to have it looked at.
[1:45:44] Because now you've said that you're going to charge the city.
[1:45:47] We've now agreed that we're going to charge for the park.
[1:45:51] And I believe that it is a violation of the contract.
[1:45:54] So that needs to be addressed.
[1:45:57] We will double check that.
[1:45:59] Thank you.
[1:46:07] 12D consideration and possible action to a pre-$40,000 grant by the Texas Office of the Governor
[1:46:14] to a far new body-borne camera systems.
[1:46:25] This is just more of a point of information.
[1:46:27] I want to commend Captain Rees, Chief Garvin, of the leadership, have applied for additional
[1:46:31] funding necessary for new body-borne cameras.
[1:46:35] We've received this funding from the Office of the Governor and we're happy to report
[1:46:39] that we've successfully brought in some more money to help offset what the cost would be.
[1:46:45] In relation to what this cost for a penny of equipment, this would 80,000 was equipping
[1:46:50] what any was.
[1:46:52] So this is the equivalent of a half a penny of property tax that saved to the city through these efforts.
[1:46:57] So Kudos to.
[1:46:59] Are there any questions or comments for captain?
[1:47:02] I just have a question, did I re-correctly, so we still have to do a 25% match and is it in your budget?
[1:47:13] Yes, I mean correct.
[1:47:14] And that was already agreed to when needed the resolution.
[1:47:20] Any other questions or comments?
[1:47:22] Or Chief or Captain?
[1:47:25] Make a motion to approve the $40,000 grant by the text officer of the Governor to acquire new body-worn camera systems.
[1:47:32] So I have a motion by Councilman Dustin Oliver, a second by Councilwoman, woman, we lend all those in favour.
[1:47:39] Any opposed?
[1:47:40] Motion carries unanimously.
[1:47:42] We've already done 12F discussion regarding flock cameras.
[1:47:49] Me again.
[1:47:52] Man, I'm going to get torched.
[1:47:54] It's okay.
[1:47:57] It's no secret that I was on board with going for the grant funding for this technology in town.
[1:48:04] I don't know that I would vote the same way, maybe I wouldn't, I don't know, but it's
[1:48:10] just been a lot of news.
[1:48:11] I felt it was worth discussion that I didn't ask, I didn't want the action on here just yet.
[1:48:18] But the chief and some of his leadership team and staff have gone around town and discussed
[1:48:23] with public what their internal controls are that they are doing to tighten the guard
[1:48:31] We've talked about other options or adding layers to that to make the public in the residents feel more comfortable.
[1:48:38] I don't know if that's going to work long-term.
[1:48:40] I mean, it looks like the governor has canceled all funding for this and everybody that's on a ballot in November has jumped on that bandwagon conveniently for all of them after they loved it for so many years.
[1:48:53] Funny how that works.
[1:48:55] But I just wanted to, I really just want to get Chief for Captain Wies or whoever he
[1:48:59] doesn't need to speak to at least say on the record that it's not just in a neighborhood
[1:49:03] meeting.
[1:49:04] What the scene is doing, and I know I've got a couple questions to ask whoever wants to
[1:49:09] field them.
[1:49:11] So I understood we were having a discussion on it, so we weren't as prepared to respond in
[1:49:15] any questions today.
[1:49:15] I thought we were going to have more discussion as to what your questions would be, because
[1:49:19] obviously we need to know exactly what you want to talk about.
[1:49:21] That's fine.
[1:49:22] So, if you can ask whatever questions you want and allow us to bring them back to you, then I think that'd be the best situation because we're
[1:49:29] want to make sure that we got the information completely correct.
[1:49:32] Okay, Chief.
[1:49:33] First, do you want to give an overview of the first or do you want to feel the questions?
[1:49:38] I'm good either way, Mayor.
[1:49:40] We've had some discussion about this.
[1:49:42] We see the concerns and I'm going to say it again in Kima.
[1:49:47] I'm almost 100% sure we're not going to have that problem.
[1:49:50] Our officers have all signed off on the agreement, the policy procedure that clearly states that if you violate it, I'm going to fire you.
[1:50:00] I'm going to go to the district attorney's office and pursue charges. Every one of our officers signed off on that. We have now limited our access to the cameras to supervisors and dispatchers only. We've taken it away from the officers. I hate doing that, because I know they're not going to violate it, but I wanted our citizens to feel better about that, that not everybody in the departments going through the cameras now through the system. It's now supervisors and dispatchers. I just hope it's not a day that dispatches answering several 911s, and the flock can't
[1:50:31] We have a Robert Suspect that just went down, you know, 2094.
[1:50:36] We hope that doesn't happen.
[1:50:37] But we've done our part.
[1:50:38] We educate.
[1:50:40] We let them know anytime we see a negative story.
[1:50:42] We share it with the entire department.
[1:50:43] This is what we do not do.
[1:50:45] I can't speak for other departments, but I can tell you that our citizens can feel comfortable
[1:50:50] that their police department is not going to violate their trust with these cameras.
[1:50:56] That I can tell you.
[1:50:57] So we've made those steps.
[1:50:58] We went out to meet with folks and came out, we heard their concerns.
[1:51:02] Councilman is always in my ear because they're in his ear and I think several have reached out.
[1:51:08] We're doing it right.
[1:51:09] It's sad to see that others have not, but this is a very good tool for us.
[1:51:14] I've said it before.
[1:51:16] Right now, I hate throwing a number out there, there's three officers on the street.
[1:51:20] One accident appeared on this bypass, all three of them were tied up with that call.
[1:51:27] These are extra police officers that are out there standing guard at different corners, keeping an eye on things.
[1:51:32] The things were to go bad, won't be able to solve it right there and then give my detectives a couple of days.
[1:51:37] They'll be able to go back through those cameras and hopefully have a good percentage of catching the bad guys.
[1:51:43] It did something over at the boardwalk or over at Walmart because we were out here busy dealing with a call that requires all three of our officers to be there.
[1:51:51] These are additional officers that we can't afford, I think I spoke to the Council woman here,
[1:51:56] you know just for one officer to bring them on board with training and salary and all the benefits
[1:52:02] about $100,000, hey 500 grand and getting me four more officers and we'll talk about it.
[1:52:09] Obviously we just went through an entire budget, we know we can't do that.
[1:52:13] So again this is definitely a powerful tool that we need to help us when you're asleep to protect
[1:52:19] our citizens or number one priority are the people that live here y'all mean everything to us
[1:52:24] and of course the 4 million visitors that come see us every year you just said at the firework
[1:52:30] so that drug is crazy right but in one night I think Caesar did the numbers 52,000 people were here
[1:52:36] on the 4th of July we know that those cameras are helping us while we're making sure people are safe
[1:52:43] getting across the street around across 146 they mean so that is just an amazing tool to have
[1:52:49] all I can just do is reassure the citizens in this community that you have great
[1:52:54] cops at work here and they are going to do right by you. That I can assure you.
[1:53:00] Thanks. Chief, I just have a question. I've read some of the criticism on my
[1:53:06] city phone and it's said that this was a violation of the Fourth Amendment.
[1:53:16] How would
[1:53:18] You can please allow us to, we'll take that down as a question.
[1:53:22] I remember the way that there was on the line for my emails, we, we would like to solicit
[1:53:30] any questions that you guys have to try to get them back on the agenda, but also to allow
[1:53:35] any residents that would like to contact you so you can give us those questions.
[1:53:38] Since our deadline for the next agenda, technically, is between today and Friday, probably
[1:53:44] wouldn't be to the first meeting in October, but I would like to get you some concrete information
[1:53:47] to answer these questions.
[1:53:48] All right, I'm going to run through my questions.
[1:53:50] Thanks for the thanks for that.
[1:53:52] Thanks for that.
[1:53:53] Thanks for the elevator speech chief.
[1:53:55] And thank you for reconsidering your position
[1:53:57] on Supervisors, only.
[1:53:58] I asked you about that.
[1:54:00] No, we had it before it blew up.
[1:54:02] And it was a little resistance, which is OK.
[1:54:05] We worked through it.
[1:54:06] But thank you for doing that.
[1:54:07] It came up in more than one neighborhood discussion.
[1:54:09] And you and I talked about it long before that
[1:54:11] as a possible guardrail.
[1:54:13] So that's fair enough.
[1:54:14] One thing, you and I've also talked about it,
[1:54:16] but I think the public needs to hear
[1:54:17] from you, is this flock have a way to limit access to the cameras in KEMA to just KEMA personnel.
[1:54:25] I know the answer to it, but come back with it and do what you get to do. And then also,
[1:54:30] I know we spent grant money on this program. I think the general public needs to understand
[1:54:36] what an exit ramp looks like financially to them. And what penalties would be, should we cancel the program
[1:54:44] at the kind of the wish of the resident, you know, that dollar amount is or a ballpark
[1:54:50] or what it could be, and then my follow-up question based on the news of the governor,
[1:54:55] I don't know that I really want to pay him back when he's just backed out of his own.
[1:55:00] Funding of the thing. So that's a lot to go on with. That's just happened today. So that's why I'm saying there's a lot of
[1:55:04] moving parts with this subject. But I just, it's easy to say let's just take them all down. They need
[1:55:10] to understand the financial impacts and have a full picture before anybody makes a decision. But I
[1:55:14] understand, you know, their concerns. Those were my big ones. I wanted on the record.
[1:55:19] Because, unfortunately,
[1:55:20] this problem is not going away. I mean, social media in the media is going to probably get this software totally
[1:55:25] just annihilated around here, but I'll go ahead.
[1:55:30] Well, my addition would be if for some reason we decided to remove the camera, and from a strategic
[1:55:39] clear standpoint, or we're saying safety is our first priority for citizens and tourists,
[1:55:46] then it's the piece that you're talking to.
[1:55:48] what would we need to consider from an investment from police coverage and then to be competitive
[1:55:56] in this area in hiring top talent and securing and stabilizing when we're looking at
[1:56:03] 2027 in budget sport work and then I think the taxpayer needs to understand there's a cost
[1:56:09] of that to them. So I'm losing a good one now, a sergeant's fixing to leave me to the work for
[1:56:18] a lot of time, money, he's one of our best. He walked by me yesterday and didn't even want to see me,
[1:56:23] he says, I don't want to leave. I don't want to leave. It's about chasing the dollar. Thank God,
[1:56:28] I have these two guys to work with. They're looking at the numbers, trying to figure out how we can
[1:56:32] come back next year and be competitive with other agencies. We're going to look out to one of the
[1:56:37] associations, TMPA to possibly come in and do a pay study with other agencies. We're trying to keep them
[1:56:43] here. They love them around here. They love what you guys do for them. They love the community, but we're
[1:56:47] always competing with the dollar before you got here.
[1:56:51] I believe a couple of years ago, we cut two and a half officers
[1:56:55] because we needed new body cameras and tasers at that time.
[1:57:00] We never got those officers back.
[1:57:03] So we seem to be going backwards when you have 4 million visitors
[1:57:07] coming to this town.
[1:57:09] Again, one major call takes all of them out of it.
[1:57:12] Luckily, we have partners in C Brook that do help us,
[1:57:15] but they're also short.
[1:57:16] You know, you have clear lake shores who may have one or two officers on most of the time it's one, you know, we've got to help them instead of them coming to helping us.
[1:57:24] So again, at $100,000 an officer roughly to put one back on, you know, it's going to be a bigger deficit for us on our budget.
[1:57:35] So again, all I'm going to do is just keep advocating to keep these cameras if we can continue, you know, because we need those additional, I call them officers, but I don't want to
[1:57:45] That's what they are. They're out there right now. While we're here right now, they're out there doing what we need them to do, viewing, you know, things picking up plates, violators, there was just one central Texas, kidnapping, it was a car jacking, literally within two hours because of the flood cameras, there was a kid in the back seat, I believe, I don't want to over-speak, but they captured that person because of the flood camera footage, you know, it's going to be tough, but I know he's been working with us both of them have,
[1:58:14] that we're looking at possibly bringing on more if we can somewhere down the road if not, at least
[1:58:19] increasing, trying to increase the pay for officers to try to keep the good quality officers
[1:58:23] we have here now, that already understand the culture of KEMA, that understand the people
[1:58:27] of KEMA, that understand the visitors of KEMA, every time you bring in someone you're starting
[1:58:32] all over again teaching them the KEMA way. I say that because I'm proud of the KEMA way, so
[1:58:39] I appreciate you reaching out asking that. I hope we don't have to go there, but eventually we will,
[1:58:44] if we continue having tourism.
[1:58:47] I just think we need to educate the public.
[1:58:49] Sure.
[1:58:49] The pros and cons and the cost.
[1:58:53] And there is a price for safety.
[1:58:55] And there's a price to keep our office or site.
[1:59:00] I just think.
[1:59:01] And there's a 200-25,000-1-2 year cost, a monthly.
[1:59:06] So very obviously we have a little trees
[1:59:09] 200,000,000,000.
[1:59:14] And that may have always keep up with the numbers.
[1:59:16] And another question to add to your list is maybe verify how many cameras were actually utilizing within city versus all the numbers that have been developed here.
[1:59:28] You know, I'm going to go ahead and address that now if you don't mind.
[1:59:33] So we have 41 cameras, but they're not all LPR readers.
[1:59:36] We only have only 18 of those are licensed plate readers.
[1:59:40] The rest are just cameras that are out there in case something should go wrong.
[1:59:46] It's just safety cameras.
[1:59:48] It's everybody.
[1:59:49] We have 41 LPR readers.
[1:59:51] That is not correct.
[1:59:53] They're only 18 of them.
[1:59:55] And the other cameras are actually on traders
[1:59:56] that we move around.
[1:59:58] When we have the fourth July, we have one at...
[2:00:00] Now we moved one over on 6th street. Those cameras are very important to us. Matter of fact, we had a drive-by shooting, a few months ago, our camera was sitting right there, captured the vehicle, captured the muzzle blast right there.
[2:00:16] We had an assault the other night in our city that we were told something differently. Captain gets on, gets a supervisor online, gets in the camera.
[2:00:25] We had, it was all captured, the entire assault, the man being drug out to the street because of these safety cameras, not LPR cameras, but to clarify, Mayor, thank you for asking that.
[2:00:37] There are only 18 of those 41 cameras that have LPR readers on them.
[2:00:42] So all we have, we need 41 cameras up. That is not true. Only 18 of them have LPR readers on them.
[2:00:50] Is there any other discussion or questions from Jay for Captain?
[2:00:56] I've got one question to add to the list, and I know you're not going to be able to
[2:01:00] and I'll provide you with it.
[2:01:04] I realized that different readers are from different companies, but the president of
[2:01:16] next evolution of Black cameras and I'd like to send that to you and if you would just comment on that in your
[2:01:23] Please, ma'am. Okay. I'll wait to get that email from you. Thank you. Thank you. And I just want to say thank you again
[2:01:28] you guys are amazing. Instead of just jumping the gun to make a decision, you're actually wanting to take input. This man calls me all the time
[2:01:35] and he's listening to his constituents and we're here to work together as a team.
[2:01:39] I promise you. Thank you.
[2:01:43] If there is no further discussion, would you not have an executive session tonight?
[2:01:48] Are there any other comments or anything before you adjourn?
[2:01:52] Well adjourn the meeting is 6 o'clock.