[0:03] Good evening. Good evening everyone. It is great to see you. Thank you for

[0:06] joining us for our June town council meeting. We appreciate you being here.

[0:10] We are going to go ahead and get started. We are going to start out with

[0:14] our invocation by councelor Swan. Thank you. Uh dear Lord, thank you for

[0:21] all this uh community that's come out tonight and all the um diverse group of

[0:25] people, volunteers, staff, uh participants and and residents that come

[0:30] together to make Nightdale such a special place. Uh we ask that you be

[0:34] with the most vulnerable as they face uh economic and political uncertainty and

[0:38] and the weather uh with this uh heat wave. Uh grant us the vision, wisdom,

[0:42] and focus to make the best decisions we can to make life better for everyone in

[0:47] Nightdale. Amen. Amen.

[0:55] Next is our pledge of allegiance and tonight we are pleased to be joined by

[1:00] members of the parks and recreation coach pitch allstar baseball showcase

[1:06] teams. These teams consist of exceptional players selected from across

[1:11] eight different parks and recreation teams who participated in the 2025

[1:16] spring season. These 24 players were selected by league coaches to form two

[1:22] teams who competed against one another in the Nightdale Parks and Recreation

[1:26] Showcase Allstar Game on June 12th, 2025.

[1:36] [Applause]

[1:49] Straight out.

[2:07] Good job, guys.

[2:24] is a great great moment is to have our youth here and to be able to celebrate

[2:28] them to let them know we appreciate them and we're so proud of everything that

[2:33] they are doing. So, thank you again for coming. Thank you for leading us in our

[2:36] pledge of allegiance.

[2:44] And next we have the adoption of the agenda. Any changes to tonight's agenda?

[2:48] Questions, comments, or motion to adopt the agenda as is?

[2:54] Motion to adopt. Second. All in favor? Any opposed? Majority approves. Motion

[2:59] carries. We will go with the agenda as is. Starting with our presentations,

[3:03] recognitions, and awards. Introduction and oath of police officer Chief Caps.

[3:14] Good evening, mayor and council. I know we've got a lot of these to get to this

[3:16] evening, so I'm going to do my very best to be brief, but also make sure that I

[3:20] give due attention to uh this auspicious occasion. Uh this evening, it is uh my

[3:25] extraordinary pleasure to introduce the newest member of the Nightdale Police

[3:29] Department, uh Miss Teddy Kger. As she is making her way to the podium with her

[3:34] friend Liz, I just wanted to say a few words. She is no stranger to service.

[3:38] She has spent a number of years in the United States Army as a military police

[3:42] officer holding the rank of sergeant. She also has municipal law enforcement

[3:47] experience uh having previously served in Virginia. And this evening, uh we're

[3:52] excited to swear her in officially uh to join our ranks. And I believe Mayor,

[3:56] you're going to be helping us out with this.

[4:19] And then repeat after me. I do solemnly swear domly swear that I

[4:27] will support and defend that I will support and defend the Constitution and

[4:32] laws of the United States the constitution and laws of the United

[4:35] States and the Constitution and laws of North Carolina

[4:42] and that I will faithfully discharge I will faithfully discharge the duties of

[4:47] my office as police officer

[4:54] [Applause]

[5:00] [Applause]

[5:22] As everyone is making their way back to the scene, I'm going to ask Teddy to

[5:25] hang tight with me for just a moment. Uh, this is a very important charge that

[5:29] we make in the presence of these community members, in the presence of

[5:32] your colleagues, in the presence of these elected officials, that you always

[5:36] be allegant to the five rules. Our mission is about other people. That is

[5:42] where our loyalty lies. Always be mission-minded. Rule number two, never

[5:46] betray our core values. Our core values are at the center of who we are. They

[5:51] identify the things that are most important to us. So, always make sure

[5:54] that your behavior, your engagement with other people is a reflection of those

[5:58] things. Rule number three, and this is hard, tell 100% of the truth 100% of the

[6:03] time. It's not easy. It's not always popular. And the truth even has

[6:06] consequences, but it's always the right thing. Rule number four, remember this

[6:10] oath. The things that you promised that you would do. By making this public

[6:15] promise, you uh you are pledging your allegiance not to me, not to an

[6:19] individual, but to values, to ideals, to principles that hold our constitutional

[6:24] republic together. And the rule number five, just give everything your best

[6:28] effort. And I guarantee you that if you'll do these five things, everything

[6:31] else has a way of taking care of itself. The job can be thankless sometimes. It's

[6:36] not always easy, but it's always right. We're proud of you, Teddy. Welcome

[6:40] aboard. Congratulations. [Applause]

[6:48] [Applause]

[6:52] Thank you, Chief. We also have another introduction of maintenance worker and

[6:58] storm water interns, Mr. Button.

[7:09] Good evening, Mayor and Council. I found my jacket tonight. Um, I'm really priv

[7:14] uh privileged to be up here today to introduce uh some new employees that we

[7:17] have. Um, some are with us for a short period of time. Others are going to be

[7:21] with us for a long time. And so, Chris, if you'll come up and introduce first

[7:26] our new maintenance worker. This is Chris Webb. Uh, Chris and his wife, two

[7:30] kids, moved down from New Jersey. worked at a small uh township up there in the

[7:34] public works department. He's got a lot of experience and he's already hit the

[7:38] ground running really well. So, we are very excited to have him on board. He's

[7:41] part of our grounds team working for Jason Eubanks. And so, uh again, this is

[7:46] Chris. Chris, mayor and counsel. Welcome. Don't go anywhere.

[7:54] [Applause] Uh, one of the things that, um, I look

[7:59] forward to each summer is our, uh, intern program. And, you know, we, this

[8:04] is our third year doing it. And, um, each year

[8:09] we all learn something from them. And hopefully we give them an opportunity to

[8:13] learn something about what we do. But uh important what's important to me is that

[8:18] not only do we give them a little bit of practical knowledge in the storm water

[8:21] field, we also introduce them to what it's like to work for local government.

[8:26] And I think that that is something that, you know, is a is a good thing because

[8:30] people should know what it's like to work in this field. It's a good field.

[8:34] You have the opportunity to serve people and I think that's great. So introduce

[8:38] my interns here this summer. I've got Athena Tomlinson. She's from

[8:41] Pennsylvania. She's a senior at NC State. She's majoring in the um

[8:46] environmental sciences program. And then I have Caleb Ford. Caleb is from

[8:49] Morrisville, North Carolina. Also a senior at NC State. He's majoring in

[8:54] biological engineering. So yeah, again, they've done a lot of

[9:00] work for us already this summer. Very excited to see what the rest of the

[9:03] summer will bring. So again, interns, council, mayor, mayor, council, interns,

[9:11] [Applause]

[9:16] Welcome as well. Thank you, Mr. Button. Next is introduction of transportation

[9:22] planner, Miss Goodman.

[9:35] Sorry. Good evening, mayor, members of council. Uh tonight I'm very pleased to

[9:40] uh introduce you to Tucker Foley. He has joined the development services

[9:44] department as our senior planner of transportation. Uh he has previous years

[9:48] of experience on the private sector. Um and he is an NC State graduate and holds

[9:53] a professional engineer license. Um so we're super excited to have him join our

[9:57] team. [Applause]

[10:01] Welcome as well.

[10:05] [Applause] Welcome as well. Thank you, Miss

[10:08] Goodman. Next is introduction of business support specialist, Miss

[10:12] Morris.

[10:17] Good evening, Mayor and Council. I'm excited to introduce this evening

[10:22] Joshua Padet. I think you guys may know him, have some idea of who he is. Josh

[10:27] has been with us for over a year and a half. He came in as a community

[10:31] relations intern and now he is our business support specialist. He is a

[10:35] graduate of App State. uh he has found his way not only kind of navigating the

[10:41] landscape of Nightdale but also working with every department and sharing his

[10:46] knowledge and experience and his big heart with the community. So we're

[10:49] excited to have him as part of our team. [Applause]

[10:58] Welcome as well. is we if we could have all of the new employees come up.

[11:21] [Music]

[11:28] right over here.

[11:33] Good job. Good job. Good job.

[11:43] All right, look this way.

[12:05] Thank you. [Applause]

[12:31] Welcome again. We are so glad to have you. Thank you for choosing Nightdale.

[12:36] Uh here at Nightdale with our strategic plan, one of the key pillars is

[12:40] operational excellence. And within operational excellence, it starts with

[12:44] our people. And so we're always great for these opportunities to add new uh

[12:49] great staff that are going to be able to help and support come into that culture

[12:54] and to support the town of Nightdale. So we appreciate it and we look forward to

[12:57] all the great things that you will do.

[13:03] Next is the recognition of advisory board member Mr. Summers.

[13:26] Thank you, Mayor Day Council. Um, it's one of those times we get to thank our

[13:29] advisory board members for their support and their generosity and their

[13:32] volunteerism for our community. Sandra volunteered on our veterans memorial

[13:36] advisory board for 21 through 24 and she is no longer serving in that role. So,

[13:41] we're going to take a minute to thank her, tell her that we love her, tell her

[13:43] that we're grateful for her service. As most of you know, Sandra has served our

[13:47] community faithfully. Um, we're so fortunate to welcome so many new faces

[13:51] to our community. Sometimes it's great to just see a face that has raised a

[13:54] family and lived here forever. Sandra has been a staunch supporter of our

[13:58] organization, our community, a longtime participant on the two green thumbs

[14:02] garden club, as well as supporting the town of Nightdale every endeavor. We

[14:06] have a simple gesture of gratitude for you to let you know that your service is

[14:10] appreciated and not lost on us. Thank you very much. Thank you.

[14:22] I forgot we do picture.

[14:35] No, just get

[14:59] one more deal. Look this way. Smile.

[15:11] [Music] [Applause]

[15:27] Once again, thank you. Thank you so much for giving of your time. We appreciate

[15:32] it. We appreciate everything that you have sacrificed to give to the town of

[15:37] Nightdale and we hope that you feel that appreciation as you leave.

[15:46] Next is our proclamations. First proclamation recognizing Junth. Junth is

[15:53] a holiday celebrating the emancipation of those who had been enslaved in the

[15:58] United States. On June 19th, 1865, General Gordon Granger announced that

[16:04] slaves in Texas were free by order of the president of the United States.

[16:09] Junth celebrates African-American freedom and achievement, a day of

[16:13] liberation, resilience, and fortitude. It is a time for reflection, reflection,

[16:19] rejoicing, assessment, and self-improvement. So therefore, I,

[16:23] Jessica Day, mayor of the town of Nightdale, do hereby proclaim June 19th,

[16:29] 2025 as Junth and declare that it shall be formally recognized as a holiday in

[16:35] the town of Nightdale. Furthermore, I call upon all residents to become aware

[16:40] of the significance of this celebration in African-American history and in the

[16:46] heritage of our nation and our town. [Applause]

[16:58] Next is our proclamation recognizing Pride Month. The Nightdale strategic

[17:04] plan identifies the following five f focus areas. Safe, connected, and

[17:09] inclusive, sustainable, active and healthy, and organizational excellence.

[17:15] To achieve a connected and inclusive community, Nightdale actively pursues

[17:20] the creation of a welcoming environment for all and supports the rights of every

[17:26] citizen to experience equality and freedom from discrimination. The town of

[17:32] Nightdale accepts and welcomes people of diverse backgrounds and believes a

[17:36] diverse population leads to a more vibrant community. Nightdale residents

[17:41] should be able to live without fear of prejudice or discrimination and should

[17:46] seek opportunities that champion the civil rights of all people. So

[17:50] therefore, I, Jessica Day, mayor of the town of Nightdale, do recognize June

[17:56] 2025 as Pride Month and encourage all residents to respect and honor our

[18:02] diverse community, and to participate in relevant activities that build dialogue,

[18:07] strengthen alliance, and advance the equal rights of all individuals.

[18:12] [Applause]

[18:20] And next is our public comment period. This is a period for anyone here tonight

[18:26] who wishes to speak on an item that is not currently on the agenda. If there

[18:30] is, you may come forward at this time.

[18:43] All right. If not, at this time, I'll turn it over to our town clerk, Miss

[18:46] Smith, to share written comments we have received.

[18:53] Good evening, mayor and members of the council. We received two written

[18:57] submissions for tonight's public comment period. Since you have all received the

[19:01] comments via email, I'll just briefly summarize. Kendra Browning, 216 Main

[19:06] Street, expressed concerns about the increase in speeding on Main Street and

[19:11] proposed a four-way stop at the intersection of Main Street and 4th

[19:15] Avenue to make it safer for those walking around Harper Park. We also

[19:19] received a comment from Kevin Carlson, 212 Main Street, who expressed concerns

[19:24] regarding speeding and the failure of drivers to stop at the stop sign on Main

[19:28] Street, noting its proximity to the park. Mr. Mr. Carlson requested a speed

[19:33] bump or an additional stop sign at the intersection of 4th Avenue and Main

[19:37] Street. Um, I'd just like to note that the full comments will be included in

[19:41] the official record of the meeting. Thank you.

[19:47] Thank you, Miss Smith. Next is reports on citizens inquiries.

[19:52] Are there any reports on citizen inquiries?

[19:59] All right. If not, I'll move the consent agenda. Any questions, comments on the

[20:03] consent agenda or motion?

[20:07] I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda. Second. All in favor? I.

[20:12] Any opposed? Majority approves. Motion carries. Next, we will move to our

[20:17] public hearings. Our first public hearing, AN-2-25,

[20:21] Robertson Crossing annexation. Mr. Lewis.

[20:31] Good evening and thank you mayor and council. Great to see everyone tonight.

[20:35] Uh the first case that I have to present to you all tonight is AN2-25

[20:40] which is the Robertson Crossing annexation public hearing. Um this is a

[20:45] voluntary petition. It is would be contiguous to the existing uh

[20:49] jurisdiction of Nightdale. The proposed annexation is just over 190 acres um

[20:55] east of Nightdale Station Park and south of the Nightdale Station neighborhood.

[21:00] Um it is currently agricultural or uh vacant land. Um and the proposed use was

[21:06] recently approved um in April of 2025 for a 668

[21:12] uh lot residential development with 12 acres of commercial and mixeduse parcels

[21:17] throughout. Here's a look at that master plan. Again, this was just updated um in

[21:22] the last few months uh to add about 2 acres to the site, but overall uh the o

[21:27] original site plan remains the same and the annexation plat of the 900 or 190

[21:33] acres. Um so, as I mentioned, it's a voluntary

[21:37] uh contiguous annexation petition. The town clerk has certified the petition.

[21:43] Um and last month, the joint the public hearing was set for this evening. All

[21:47] statutory requirements for the public hearing have been met as well.

[21:52] We included a full breakdown of the cost benefit analysis in our staff report and

[21:56] I'm happy to answer any questions um if you have any about those numbers in the

[22:01] staff report. Um but here is a look at just a a highlevel uh projection on

[22:07] that. One thing I'll note here is that these numbers do not include any tax

[22:12] revenue that would be generated from the non-residential parcels throughout. So

[22:16] this is just looking at the um residential parcels in particular. Um so

[22:21] this would add uh the development of those would add to the uh revenues as

[22:25] well. Some other considerations that aren't as

[22:30] easily quantifiable in the plan or in the annexation, but we feel it is

[22:35] important to point out um that this annexation would make improvements to

[22:40] Marshall Drive. um upgrading that from a paved road to a local street with curb,

[22:46] gutter, and sidewalk um and extending utilities down Marshall Drive. Um there

[22:50] is about one mile of public and private walking trails throughout, including

[22:54] pedestrian connectivity to Nightdale Station Park and a pedestrian crossing

[22:58] over the railroad tracks that separates the two sides of the site. Um so again,

[23:03] those aren't really quantifiable, but we see them as benefits uh for this

[23:08] proposal. So happy to answer any questions about the annexation if there

[23:12] are any. Um after receiving public comment, our recommendation would be uh

[23:16] to close the public hearing and adopt ordinance 25618-007

[23:20] [Music] to annex the area.

[23:26] Right. Thank you. I'll bring it up to council. Any questions,

[23:31] comments? Okay. Thank you.

[23:37] This is a public hearing item. Is there anyone here tonight that wishes to speak

[23:41] on this item? If so, you may come forward this time. Mayor and council

[23:46] members, uh, my name is Beth Tyos. I'm an attorney with Fox Rothschild and I'm

[23:50] here today on behalf of Robertson Crossing and the Telly Communities. I

[23:54] have with me Brian Massingel, also sorry, also with the telly communities.

[24:00] Um, uh, just to ask for your support of the

[24:04] annexation petition. Um we've been working very closely with your staff uh

[24:08] to compile a complete petition. Um and as we promised as a part of our zoning

[24:14] um you know that we will be building a community that we hope you will consider

[24:17] to be uh a a positive part of the town of Nightdale. Um which includes our our

[24:23] commitment to uh work with uh the railroad to create an opportunity for a

[24:28] railroad crossing for pedestrian access. U we're we're hopeful that they will

[24:32] will be cooperative as we move forward. Um but we would ask for your support of

[24:37] our annexation petition. And I just wanted to confirm for the

[24:40] record, did you state your address? Oh, I didn't. I'm sorry. It's uh 301

[24:46] Hillsboro Street in Raleigh. Thank you.

[24:54] All right. Anyone else that wishes to speak on this item, you may come

[24:57] forward. Just as a reminder, please state your name and address. Be sure to

[25:02] have signed the speaker sheet and uh comments are limited to three minutes.

[25:07] We do have a timer here. My name is Santa Claus. I'm from the Oh, sorry.

[25:13] My name is Roger Howard. My address is 718 Sunline Drive. I wanted to begin by

[25:19] thanking you letting me come back. I've spoken to this group a couple of times

[25:23] in the past. Um I wanted to mention two things. Uh Kevin Lewis is a guy uh who

[25:30] sent this letter out uh couple weeks ago to that got me here to the meeting. Uh

[25:36] and I've got great respect for him because he does things the way he says

[25:39] he's going to do. Uh the second thing is that I know another planner uh in my

[25:45] neighborhood and I like him too. He's got a big dog. Uh so in any event, the

[25:52] what brought me out tonight is the map that uh Kevin included on the back of

[25:59] this letter for the very first time uh has highlighted in yellow

[26:07] my neighborhood Union Station in Nightdale Station. And I went back and I

[26:12] looked at the original sketch plan and all those other maps and on not a single

[26:19] one of them is Union Station highlighted. And I wonder why you did

[26:24] that, Kevin, because typically planners are they they do stuff for a good

[26:31] reason.

[26:35] And we can get the questions answered. If you have specific questions, we can

[26:39] connect you with staff to get those answers. Okay? We could take that

[26:42] comment now and then we could follow up with the questions. So, we'll follow up

[26:45] later with the qu with the answers.

[26:51] Is there anyone else here tonight that wishes to speak on this item?

[27:01] If not, thank you for your comments. At this time, I'll turn it over to our town

[27:05] clerk, Miss Smith, to share written comments that we have received.

[27:13] Thank you, Mayor Day. We did receive one written comment for this public hearing

[27:17] item. Again, since you've all received the comment via email, I'll just briefly

[27:21] summarize. Shannon Hardy, 606 Hartland Flyer Drive, expressed opposition to

[27:27] A&2-25, citing concerns about H Heartland

[27:30] Flyer's role as an egress for Robertson Crossing. She also noted some traffic

[27:35] issues with Daly's Academy, Nightdale station, and the lofts and the

[27:39] narrowness of current properties on H Heartland. So, as mentioned earlier this

[27:43] evening, the full comment will be included in the official record of the

[27:46] meeting. Thank you, Miss Smith.

[27:52] bring it back to council. Any last questions or comments?

[27:57] One one quick and maybe it'll come up in the next um item on the agenda if there

[28:02] will be an opportunity to think about construction traffic and construction

[28:06] traffic phasing. I think it may be more uh dealt with in the development

[28:10] agreement. Um that's the next item perhaps.

[28:14] That would be my only comment or question.

[28:23] Um did the highlighting have any hidding

[28:27] hidden meaning? Was there any new impact to the neighborhood as mentioned? No. Um

[28:35] so

[28:38] um the parcels that are outlined in yellow are the subject parcels for the

[28:42] annexation. The parcels that are shaded in yellow or the uh darker yellow color

[28:49] are parcels that are already in town limits. Um so because they are already

[28:54] in town limits, they are shaded that yellow following the annexation if it is

[28:58] approved. Um and everything is updated in Wake County IM apps, those parcels

[29:02] would also be shaded in yellow.

[29:10] Any others? Um so and I guess you got the uh written

[29:16] comment as well. Um I did not understand what it meant. So can you just clarify?

[29:22] Sure. So um there are no changes proposed uh to Hartland Flyer Drive. Um

[29:30] that would be a point of connection as we went through the resoning. We talked

[29:34] about that a lot um because it is a stub street that fronts on this property. Um,

[29:39] so they are connecting to that, but within the Nightdale station

[29:43] neighborhood, H Heartland Flyer Drive will remain untouched. Um, I also

[29:47] mentioned Marshall Drive is going to be improved. Um, you can see that kind of

[29:51] outlined on the the right hand side of that page. So, in addition to H

[29:55] Heartland Fire Drive, Marshall Drive will point would act as a point of

[29:59] ingress and ingress into the northern side of this neighborhood. Um, and I was

[30:03] planning to also talk about uh phasing and um uh other elements in the uh

[30:10] development agreement public hearing next. So I'll get to that. Thank you.

[30:21] All right. Have no more other questions? Is there a motion to close the public

[30:25] hearing? I'll make a motion to close the public hearing and adopt ordinance

[30:28] 25618007 effectively annexing the area. Second.

[30:34] All in favor? I. Any opposed? Majority approves. Motion carries. We'll move to

[30:40] our second public hearing item, ZMA-16-22,

[30:44] Robertson Crossing Development Agreement. Mr. Lewis. Great. Thank you

[30:48] again. Um, again, this is the public hearing for the development agreement.

[30:52] So, the contract between the town and the developer. Um, and these typically

[30:57] happen concurrently with the annexation. Um, so again, this is 190 acres off of

[31:03] Robertson Street between uh the Nightdale Station neighborhood. Um,

[31:08] south of and south of Robertson Street. Uh, it was recently re reszoned to

[31:12] General Residential 3 and neighborhood mixed use. Um, Beth with Fox Rothschild

[31:18] and the Tally Communities are here as well uh for the development agreement.

[31:23] Um, so again, this is a look at the current zoning uh that was approved for

[31:28] the overall development and nothing's changed there. Um, to the north is the

[31:33] Nightdale Station neighborhood, Nightale Station Park. Um, points south include

[31:37] the Harper Preserve development um and uh some vacant or agricultural uses

[31:43] there as well. So again, look at the master plan.

[31:47] Again, nothing's changed uh since the master plan was updated last uh the in

[31:53] the last couple months. Um that was approved in April. U construction

[31:58] drawings have been submitted for phase one, which again I'll go over in just a

[32:02] moment. U and are nearing approval. Following that, a CIP or construction

[32:07] improvement permit will be issued by the town to allow for construction to begin.

[32:11] Um and then when it comes time, building permits will be pulled as well.

[32:17] So the agreement includes a number of different uh specifications within it

[32:22] including uh allocating water and sewer utilities to the development. The

[32:26] phasing and term of the overall construction of the site, the zoning

[32:30] conditions and some of the transportation improvements. Um so this

[32:33] is compliant with the water allocation policy. Again this hasn't changed. Um

[32:37] all of these requirements are being met with the latest development. Um this is

[32:43] proposed to be developed in six phases. Uh so the first three phases 1 A, 1 B

[32:48] and 1 C are south of Robertson Street and south of the railroad. Um those

[32:53] phases would be developed first and then the second three phases phases 2 A, B

[32:59] and C are north of the railroad and adjacent to Nike station. Um at that

[33:04] time that's when Marshall Drive would be improved as well. Um and those

[33:08] improvements would be required before issuance of any building permits. um

[33:14] they would be required to make those improvements there. The term of the the

[33:18] agreement would extend the vested rights period from two years to seven years uh

[33:22] to 2032 to allow for full buildout of the site.

[33:27] All of the zoning conditions um that were previously approved would be

[33:31] carried forward, including the site development allowances, the allowances,

[33:35] the architectural standards, the design, the actual master plan of the site, the

[33:41] commercial use standards, um and the transportation improvements. Um one

[33:45] thing I'll note when it comes to transportation improvements is that um I

[33:50] mentioned Marshall Drive. There are also other off-site transportation

[33:53] improvements that are required, including u making safety improvements

[33:57] to First or to yes, First Avenue and uh Fateville Street. Um not Fateville

[34:05] Street, Robertson Street. Um and that would be required before again the final

[34:09] plat is approved unless any deviations are approved by NC DOT. We're having

[34:14] those discussions. They are ongoing. Um, so as those progress and before any

[34:19] final decisions are made, we'll be sure to inform you all of that. As far as

[34:24] construction traffic goes, again with Marshall Drive, other points um, uh, on

[34:29] Robertson Street uh, providing access to the northern side of the site, um, we'll

[34:34] certainly continue to work with the developer on that. U, but what I will

[34:38] say is that is a later phase of the development. So, um, right now the

[34:42] timing of that is still undetermined. Um, but as we get closer, we'll be able

[34:48] to share more details with you all. So, again, happy to answer any questions

[34:54] about the development agreement. um if there are any. But if not, our

[34:59] recommendation would be to close the public hearing, approve the development

[35:02] agreement, and adopt ordinance 25-6-18-008.

[35:10] Thank you. Again, any questions, comments?

[35:14] Just followup comment on construction traffic. I know the northern site, you

[35:18] know, to have access off of Robertson. The southern site has direct access off

[35:23] of Robertson, but north you'd have to cross the railroad track. It would I

[35:28] would really really hope that at least a temporary crossing could be established

[35:33] um you know maybe with signals or something, but you know, not you know

[35:37] love to see a permanent crossing. I think we all would. Uh but I think uh

[35:42] just continue um really pushing for that and making sure that we're doing all we

[35:47] can to limit the amount of traffic going through existing neighborhoods,

[35:50] especially construction traffic. Certainly. Yes. And as Beth mentioned,

[35:54] we're trying to build that relationship with the railroad company to allow for

[35:58] the pedestrian crossing and then also hopefully um the uh the

[36:03] uh construction traffic crossing. Any

[36:10] other? Well, with that, if there I'll make a

[36:15] motion. No, you're fine.

[36:20] Um, if there's no other questions or comments for council, I will open the

[36:24] floor. This is a public hearing item as well. If there's anyone here tonight

[36:28] that wishes to speak on this item, you may come forward at this time.

[36:36] Mayor and town council members Beth Treyo is just here to answer questions

[36:41] um with Mr. Masill so and ask for your support. Thank you. Is there anyone else

[36:48] here that wishes to speak on this item? If so, you may come forward at this

[36:52] time.

[37:05] Good evening. My name is Sharon Bulock. I live at 626 H Heartland Flyer Drive.

[37:11] Um, I'm a little perplexed and my question is, and I may have to go back,

[37:17] which you all can assist me if I miss something.

[37:22] Um, I like to have a talk with our HOA attorneys

[37:28] because of some internal questions that we as, uh, my neighbors and I have.

[37:35] uh about the Heartland Street possibly being widened or as you say

[37:43] there won't be any changes you said right to the traffic pattern

[37:51] with machinery and cars and trucks coming through there disrupting our

[37:57] lives. So, I just want to know uh before you

[38:03] close this public meeting, this hearing out, can we at least get a 7-day

[38:08] reprieve to have some dialogue with our attorneys.

[38:18] And once again, so this is an opportunity for us to hear your public

[38:21] comments, but if you do have questions, we can get your contact information and

[38:25] we can get back to you with responses to your questions. So we will we have your

[38:30] contact information. You've signed the book with your contact information and

[38:33] we can get you connected with one of our staff members and we can get some

[38:37] answers to you. Okay. I appreciate. Thank you. Thank you.

[38:49] I'm Cindy Prow. We live at 5104 Marshall Drive. So, we're right at that corner

[38:55] that they're talking about the for the improvements. So, I guess our our main

[38:59] concern is um our water, our well, we have well water and it's right

[39:05] around the corner real close to the the other road. So, I I'm just hoping

[39:11] someone will be in contact with us as things are moving along. So, we'll know

[39:15] what we're facing as far as if well has to be redone or if we'll be able to hook

[39:21] into city water at that point in time as they're making the improvements. So, I

[39:27] think that's our biggest concern.

[39:31] Thank you for sharing that as well. And anytime you have questions, our staff is

[39:35] very responsive. So if you send any questions in, they'll be able to help

[39:38] you. And we can make sure that we get some

[39:42] contact information so you know who to reach out to. Thank you.

[39:51] Anyone else here tonight that wishes to speak on this item?

[39:58] All right. If not, then I will bring it back to our council.

[40:03] Any questions or comments?

[40:09] Okay, I guess at this time I'll close make a motion to close the public hear

[40:13] and approve development agreement and adopt ordinance 25618008.

[40:19] Second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Majority approves. Motion carries.

[40:27] We close that public hearing and that's the last public hearing of item this

[40:30] evening. Thank you for those that have come this evening. I did want to

[40:34] reiterate typically during our public hearing items, these are opportunities

[40:37] for us to hear, but we do want to make sure that we answer your questions. So,

[40:41] we want to get your information so that we can answer those later.

[40:48] Next is old business ZTA1-25 quarterly updates. Miss Goodman.

[41:06] Good evening again, mayors and members of council.

[41:10] Uh tonight I have the last step for you in our uh ZTA uh or quarterly quarterly

[41:16] amendments. Um if you recall last month we had our joint public hearing and then

[41:20] the LAN use board heard this uh case at their meeting last Monday.

[41:26] So, this text amendment has two focus areas. Um, one is increasing the number

[41:31] of persons permitted at an inhome daycare and then the second one is to

[41:35] align cross-section descriptions across all town plans and policies. So, as you

[41:40] can see on the slide, chapters 3, 5, 10, and 15 will sections of those chapters

[41:45] will be revised under this text amendment.

[41:49] Uh, so as you recall, the joint public hearing was held on May 15th. Um, we did

[41:55] hear from two inhome daycare operators. They spoke in favor of the text

[41:59] amendment. They also shared their personal experience with operating one

[42:02] of these facilities and shared information on their current weight

[42:05] list. Um, we also uh both boards, the town

[42:10] council and the lane use review board had quite a few comments and questions

[42:14] about uh child care homes um and standards in other municipalities. So

[42:19] tonight, I wanted to report back to you what I've learned since the joint public

[42:22] hearing and share with you how those uh proposed UDO changes have changed based

[42:28] on things that I've learned. Um so first up, I wanted to say that um

[42:34] or just remind you that uh the current UDO sets a maximum capacity of five

[42:40] children for inhome daycarees. Um the town does issue a zoning compliance

[42:44] permit for inhome daycarees, but the state is actually the licensing uh

[42:48] licensing agency. Um and that is overseen by the division of child

[42:53] development and early education um within the North Carolina Department of

[42:57] Health and Human Services. Um and they have a current maximum of 10 children,

[43:03] but that can vary or be fewer uh depending on the actual age range of the

[43:08] children enrolled in those programs. Um, so while licensing home daycarees, they

[43:12] do consult the local municipality's ordinance and only issues a license for

[43:16] what the municipality allows. Um, so since the joint public hearing,

[43:21] I've had several conversations and communications with a lead child care

[43:25] consultant who works for DHS. Um, and she was very helpful and was able to um,

[43:32] kind of explain the state's regulations. Um she also shared uh that many Wake

[43:37] County municipalities are actually following the up to 10 rule right now.

[43:41] Um the ones who aren't, several allow up to eight and then uh Nightdale and

[43:46] Carrie uh come in at the kind of bottom uh with Carrie allowing six and

[43:51] Nightdale currently allowing five. Um she also clarified that square footage

[43:55] and teacher ratios actually don't apply to inhome daycarees. Uh they are only

[44:00] applicable to daycare centers more in like a commercial operation.

[44:07] So, the elements of inhome daycarees that the UDO currently regulates really

[44:11] are focused on zoning and compatible land uses. Um, so things like hours of

[44:15] operation, overall maximum capacity, and location of the outdoor play area and

[44:20] fencing requirements. Um, but as you can see on this slide, I'm not going to read

[44:24] all them. The state of North Carolina, they regulate a lot. um everything

[44:29] related to licensing, operations, inspections, number of children allowed

[44:32] per age range, it all falls to the state.

[44:36] So, we're just a small piece of the overall operation of inhome daycarees.

[44:42] Um, so based on the feedback that was provided at the joint public hearing and

[44:46] my discussions with the DHS employee, um, we did make some text changes or

[44:52] proposing text changes that would remove the reference to five or fewer for

[44:56] inhome daycarees and we would replace that with a requirement that daycarees

[45:00] uh, comply with all applicable state of North Carolina regulations, including

[45:03] maximum capacity restrictions. Um, this would allow the number to fluctuate

[45:09] depending on state regulations and wouldn't require additional text

[45:13] amendments in the future if the state changes. Um, and we want to follow suit.

[45:17] Um, we also added language that clarified that the principal daycare

[45:20] operator must be a full-time resident of the dwelling. Um, it was alluded to in

[45:24] our ordinance, but we just kind of clarified that language and that follows

[45:28] state requirements as well. Um, and then also we added that one additional

[45:32] non-resident employee is permitted. our current UDO is silent on that and in my

[45:37] discussions with the DHHS consultant. Um she shared kind of different

[45:43] municipalities follow different uh different ways um but if a ordinance is

[45:48] silent on it then an extra employee is not allowed. So we um added that one

[45:52] extra employee would be permitted and that actually follows um and is

[45:57] consistent with the UDO standards for home occupations.

[46:02] And then next up, uh the second item, um included in this text amendment is

[46:06] general infrastructure design guidelines. This all falls under chapter

[46:09] 10 of the UDO. Um there's been various changes to uh transportation and

[46:15] infrastructure over the years. We just need to uh update the UDO chapter 10 to

[46:20] make sure that all of the plans, the CTP, um the standard specification

[46:25] manual, the UDO, everything matches. Um, so the text changes include

[46:29] incorporating uh two new crosssections, which are the public utility alley and

[46:33] the local street with on local street with on street parking. Modifying the

[46:37] text descriptions to make sure it matches. Um, and then updating figures

[46:41] and graphics just so really just a way to make sure everything's consistent

[46:44] across the board. Um, so I also wanted to provide you with

[46:49] an update for or a summary of the land use review board meeting that happened

[46:53] last uh last Monday on June 9th. uh they did unanimously recommend approval.

[46:58] However, they did have a proposed condition uh attached to their

[47:02] recommendation to increase the non-resident employee allowance to two

[47:06] rather than one as presented by staff. Um so as you all are well aware uh North

[47:14] Carolina general statute does require the governing board to adopt a statement

[47:18] of plan consistency and reasonable reasonleness of action. Um so tonight we

[47:24] have prepared this recommended advisory statement for you. It says the proposed

[47:28] text amendment is consistent with the night next v2 2035 comprehensive plan

[47:34] which serves as the foundation for determining effective public policy that

[47:38] provides an ongoing framework for informed and directed public investment

[47:41] and private development. Further, it is reasonable and in the public interest as

[47:46] it aligns the town's unified development ordinance with the North Carolina state

[47:49] regulations and clarifies community design standards resulting in a more

[47:52] inclusive, safe, and livable town. So, tonight, uh, staff's recommendation

[47:58] would be after reviewing the request, make a motion to approve ZTA 1-25,

[48:03] adopt the advisory statement, and also adopt ordinance 25618009.

[48:10] and I'd be happy to answer any questions that you have.

[48:14] All right. Thank you, Miss Goodman. Questions or comments? Just a point of

[48:18] clarification. Um, so the staff's presented text amendment tonight does

[48:23] not include the two employees. It's the one employee as written. It's one um it

[48:28] can also it can be amended depending on the approval.

[48:33] Yeah. on that point is was that additional person the caregiver um not

[48:38] just for example a family member. It would be

[48:42] an additional caregiver of someone who does not live in the residence and then

[48:46] they would have to meet that that caregiver would also have to meet

[48:49] requirements that the state sets out age and qualifications and everything. I did

[48:55] wonder if you know sometimes with it depends you

[48:59] know but sometimes with 10 you know maybe having that extra one maybe that

[49:03] is a good point. I wonder if we could say up to I guess we would say up to two

[49:07] and if they most people maybe just want one they would have to obviously pay

[49:12] this person so there's economic consideration but um I would probably be

[49:17] okay with up to two. I think

[49:22] I would probably come down on the side of one since that's consistent with what

[49:28] we already allow for home businesses of other types. Uh is that's what I

[49:34] heard in your presentation is the UDO currently in in home business of any

[49:38] type one additional non-resident employee is what we allow. Um, and so I

[49:44] I start to think about, you know, you've already got additional impact on

[49:48] surrounding neighbors with traffic, particularly with this one, you've got

[49:53] drop off pickup every day. Um, and then you start to throw in, you know, the

[49:57] additional parking for employees. And I I think I would argue for keeping it

[50:02] consistent with what we've already got other for other uses.

[50:07] Yeah. And we could always come back and revisit it if it's a I mean, just like

[50:10] we're doing now from what the ordinance was. So I would be okay with that.

[50:20] Any more or motion?

[50:25] All right. I will make a motion to approve ZTA 125 quarterly updates. Adopt

[50:30] the advisory statement and adopt ordinance 25618009.

[50:35] Second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Majority approves. Motion carries. Thank

[50:41] you again. And next we'll move to our advisory board reports. Any reports on

[50:47] any of our advisory board meetings or just so um veterans memorial advisory

[50:54] board met um they are working on a presentation for um banners for living

[51:03] uh veterans. Uh that was important goal for them was to honor them. Um, I just

[51:08] want to say I want to say I appreciate Heather's work with them and I

[51:12] appreciate that they um worked to come to a consensus. Uh, they had some

[51:17] differences of opinion and you know, I was furiously taking notes so I'd be

[51:21] prepared to tell y'all what those differences were and they came to a

[51:24] consensus and it all worked out.

[51:29] Thank you for that update. Any others? Uh just quickly, uh last week we went to

[51:36] um Chapel Hill for our uh Vision Zero annual U conference and we have two

[51:41] members of staff here tonight that joined us there. Uh Mr. uh Button and

[51:46] and our assistant town manager, Mr. Trip. Um I really appreciate their time

[51:50] as well as others that attended. Um it just shows our commitment to safety and

[51:54] and making sure that we make traffic improvement safeties along our our

[51:59] roadway safety improvements for all users. us. I really appreciate uh their

[52:04] commitment and the town's commitment to vision zero.

[52:11] Thank you for that as well. Uh not an update, but just want to thank parks and

[52:15] wreck as well as the community relations department and all the other staff

[52:19] members, especially KFD and KPD who uh definitely did an amazing job at the

[52:27] African-American festival this past Saturday. It was wonderful. um a lot a

[52:32] lot of compliments to the town and the staff on how well of a job they did and

[52:37] how much everyone enjoyed the the festival, the African-American festival.

[52:41] So definitely want to say thanks to everyone who participated in that helped

[52:44] and pull that together. So thank you. Thank you for that. I agree as well.

[52:54] Any others?

[52:59] All right. If not, then that comes to the end of the meeting tonight. So, may

[53:03] I have a motion to adjurnn? So, moved. Second. All in favor? I. Any

[53:08] opposed? Majority approves. Motion carries. We stand adjourn. Thank you for

[53:14] joining us for our June town council meeting. Have a good evening.

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