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council meeting.
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Right.
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It's new.
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Roll call, please.
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Rankin?
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Yes.
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Lata?
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Yes.
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Gada?
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Yes.
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Nichols?
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Yes.
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Okay, before we get started, I just
wanted to mention, um, KNIA
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for a year has covered us either
through their Zoom link that they had
or through the radio years ago.
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And they will no longer be doing
that, and so we have will have, um, a
Zoom link on our agenda each week.
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So people that want to listen, if
they cannot attend, will be able to
use the Zoom link, and those will be
on the on the website if they want to
watch them afterwards.
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That would be a nice addition for
people that want to go back and try
to catch me.
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Just wanted to mention that, so it'll
be a little change for us, but I
think it'll be great.
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Okay, now is the time for citizen and
public comment. This is for anything
that is not already on tonight's
agenda.
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Then seeing none, we'll move on to
consent agenda.
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3.1 approves City Council meeting
minutes from September 8, 2026.
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3.2 accept Airport Commission meeting
minutes from August 8, 2026.
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3.3 accept Library Board meeting
minutes from September 14, 2026.
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3.4 approved the reappointment of
Annie Leonard to the low rent housing
board of commissioners.
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3.5 accept Water Board meeting
minutes from September 8, 2026.
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3.6 accept Knoxville Fire Department
August 2026 report.
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3.7 approve August 2026 financials.
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and 3.8 approved fiscal year 2026
annual urban renewal report.
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Motion to approve the consent agenda.
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Second.
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Motion by Rankin, seconded by Lada.
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Roll call, please.
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Lada?
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Yes.
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Nichols?
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Yes.
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Rankin?
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Yes.
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Gada?
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Yes.
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Consent agenda passes.
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Item agenda 4.1, School Bond
Referendum presentation.
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Is that you guys?
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That is, the both of us.
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Yeah, I was going to say, wherever
you're comfortable. Good right here.
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Okay.
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It's work.
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I don't need a microphone or
anything.
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Yeah, you're fine.
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So, uh, the second slide here, we got
a brief video, so we can dive into
that.
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So just the uh brief project details,
a new elementary school in the
Veterans district,
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providing better proximity and access
to our other schools, uh, community
parks, our athletic facilities, and
uh, near a new key housing
development.
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Uh, target size would be about 73,000
square feet.
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with a new performance level
gymnasium, um, designed to provide
community access outside of school
hours and to accommodate events.
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Uh, as of right now, Northstar
current elementary school this would
replace is about 45,000 square foot.
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So it would be uh quite an upgrade to
uh what we have currently.
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Um, transition will also create space
at West Elementary for our preschool
students allowing us to eliminate the
portable buildings for our youngest
learners uh in the future.
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Next slide.
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So the total projected cost um is the
three uh 35.7 million.
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Um, the bond referendum that would be
in front of our voters uh this
November is 15.3 million, remainder
of that would be financed through the
um save or secure advanced vision for
education fund off uh tax dollars.
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Uh, the key thing with this as
opposed to the geo bond from last
year is that there's no tax rate
increase and approved bond referendum
on November 3rd would not raise
property tax tax rates for the
district.
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Um, will extain uh excuse me, extend
the existing debt service levy of 365
per $1,000 of taxable property value.
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So the current challenge.
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North Star are the building is, you
know, 66 years old,
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um and isn't exactly
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conducive for the current learning
environment
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and needs of our students.
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Um, both from the learning
standpoint, AEA teaching
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or ADA teaching, um and safety.
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So the school district uh contracted
with Boy Jones to
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do a comprehensive building
assessment in October 2024,
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uh which identified $22.5 million
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in deficiencies and that was reviewed
by the task force
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that multiple you guys participated
in.
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Um, the projected cost now,
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given that this bond referendum
didn't pass last year,
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now takes those um improvements to
$27 million.
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Uh, for the future of the building it
would not be demolished.
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Um, under our proposal it would allow
it to be sold
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um and continue to serve Northfield
in a new manner.
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Um, several redevelopment options
including senior housing,
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multi-family housing, um are things
that have occurred
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in other cities when schools have
done things like this.
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Uh, the plan would allow for property
uh to add
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property taxable value as opposed to
a public building
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that pays none right now, um, while
also addressing
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a need for more housing. What
questions do you have for us?
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I'll first thank you guys for coming.
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We appreciate the information. It's
nice.
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Council, any questions, comments?
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Um, I would just comment maybe um
another bullet point
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for your presentation might be that
so if the costs
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went from 22.5 in 2024 to 27 million.
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Um, maybe compare um,
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I know our property tax base has gone
up significantly
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with uh all the commercial
improvements.
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So, while the costs have gone up, you
might point out that
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it's not all on the taxpayers from
2024 because we have
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Quick Start, we have another Casey's,
we have Domino's.
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Maybe um, I think Heather in our
budget process has kind
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of a breakout of the increase in in
our tax base in the
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city of Knoxville, which um, just
reading some of the comments
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on social media,
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I don't think people understand that
even when you uh say that
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we're going to pay for it with save
dollars, how much the
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commercial growth in our community
contributes to those
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dollars in addition to property
taxes? So it seems like there's
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a common theme that people don't
understand that it's property
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tax neutral. And I think that's a
huge, I mean, we had the same
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benefit to um, pitch the public
safety building.
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that it's all going to be um, with
dollars from local option
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sales tax is how we're going to pay
for that debt. And I I work
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in the finance area and bond, so it
it all makes sense to me,
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but I think it's a very foreign
concept for a lot of the blue
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collar community that we live in. And
so if you can um, bring
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to light some of those other benefits
that might be helpful.
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That's really good information. Thank
you. We'll share that
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with uh the task force. A couple
things. Um,
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you can use this as you choose, but
to summarize, you know,
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chart that says voting yes,
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is $15.7 million you're agreeing to,
voting no
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is $27 million you're agreeing to.
We're going to
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do one or the other. That's a
critical point to drive home,
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and I think that's what I understand.
Um, that'd be hard
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to argue. Um, but the second thing I
would point out is,
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one thing I hear a lot of is people
don't think that um,
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school facilities, sometimes city
facilities as well, are
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maintained, they don't understand the
dollars that
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we spend. Um, some of it's not really
visible to the general
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public. And I see that a lot on this
project, people saying,
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you know, it wouldn't need, you know,
$20 million worth
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of repairs had we had we kept it up.
And I don't think
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one thing that's not been
communicated very well,
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that I would challenge is, I'm not
100% sure I've been
[9:16]
looking into it for the, I haven't
had a lot of time,
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but there have been, I believe, more
additions and more
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improvements and more dollars spent
on that school building
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than anything we've ever had in the
district. So, I I don't
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know if we've communicated that well
enough. I know
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of two different, my mother lived
close, and I remember
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two, I remember two different periods
about 5, 10 years
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apart where we built the south side,
then the north side.
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We had to be ADA compliant,
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um, we had to build a retention pond,
a new playground, a new
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parking lot. So, for those of you
guys who are just here,
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this is what we want the bond
referendum, we're asking for
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a debt to issue in 2024 to fund the
Northstar School.
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If you vote yes, you're agreeing to
issue debt for $15.7 million,
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and if you vote no,
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So, I think we can work on
communicating
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what do you mean when you have
maintained it. It's probably
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had more dollar, way more than East
Elementary ever had spent on it.
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That was gone. So
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Yeah. Okay. It's tried to be diligent
that's put on to it. Yeah.
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And there's other things. I mean, I
the road was a big deal
[10:20]
when I was involved side, I have 10,
15 years ago.
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The trust fund's on top.
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So, I would encourage you to
communicate there has been a lot
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of maintenance, improvements and, you
know, limping that thing along
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for nearly 70 years.
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Um, so, anyhow,
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those were a couple things I noticed.
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Um, to echo what the mayor said, you
know, really appreciate
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the work. It's it's tireless work.
And um, I uh,
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I know first hand and really
appreciate
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what you guys have been doing. Thank
you.
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Right. One of the things of the
presentation that made me start
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well questioning or wondering,
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if you said building the new school
is going to free up space in the
west.
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Explaining how that's going to happen
would be important to me.
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because it doesn't make any sense
building your new school
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creating space in the other school.
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So if you're planning on transferring
kids or whatever,
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however that is,
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that would be an important thing for
me to hear.
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one of the grades is going to go out
there.
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Yeah. The second, second grade, all
the children.
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This is the first time I've heard
that. Oh, okay.
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So this is the process to start and
so that's not being
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communicated very well.
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Please. We're the sources that I'm
looking at.
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The school's growing.
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And it's just time.
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Somebody, how many years ago was it?
66 years?
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Yeah, 66. No.
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They made hard decisions then.
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And and the town supported it and
here we are.
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And it's it's uh, it's our turn to
step up to the plate.
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[clears throat]
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And and and thank you to the school.
I mean, you know, we
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we, I guess, as council are we're
taxpayers as well and and so
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for you guys to be able to put uh the
community in a position to
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build a $35 million dollar building
and and we only have to
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bond, uh, you know, whatever that is,
what?
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15. Yeah, 15.3. That that's just
tremendous to me.
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I look at that. I mean, and so
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that kudos to you guys.
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Thank you for for doing that and
putting us in that position.
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to where we're not bombing for 35
million and we said it's 15.
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So, um, I just appreciate the hard
work uh that everyone's put
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in to putting us in that position.
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Anything else? No.
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Thanks for your time. Thank you guys
for being here. Thank you.
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We look forward to... Yep.
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Report two, resolution to guarantee
the local match for the
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Central Iowa Housing Trust Fund.
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Lucas, are you going to sit down? Do
I have to sit?
[13:08]
You can sit down, you can sit down if
you want. Sit down. Hey. Sit.
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Don't don't make you feel bad. But
that's all right.
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Um, Lucas Young, uh, with the
Mid-Iowa Planning Alliance
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and today I'm here to discuss the
Central Iowa Housing Trust Fund.
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Uh, for those of you that are new to
the council, uh, this is an
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annual request by the Central Iowa
Housing Trust Fund.
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Um, the next slide here.
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this actually just explains uh the
Housing Trust Fund system across
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the state.
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Uh, there are
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Uh, I think the highest I it looks
like there's around 27 of them or so.
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Um, so, the entire state is covered
by a housing trust fund.
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Interesting fact. Uh, the Central
Iowa's the Central Iowa Housing
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Trust Fund was the last Housing Trust
Fund to be created.
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Um, and those last four counties were
Boone, Jasper, Marion, and
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Warren counties.
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So, uh, it's been existence, I have
that on future slide but since
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around 2020.
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Uh, was their first allocation of
funding.
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Housing Trust Funds are a state
approved or state allowed to exist
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type entity.
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Um, there was enabling legislation in
the early 2000s, uh, that
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allowed housing trust funds to exist.
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Annually, we apply for funds uh to
the state for dollars.
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Uh, and these funds are used
exclusively for uh lower to moderate
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income housing projects.
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Um, in Marion County here
specifically in Knoxville, uh,
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projects include the Habitat for
Humanity,
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uh, owner occupied repair program
that they have.
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Uh, that is a that is a program that
is uh funded by the Central
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Housing Trust Fund.
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Um, and more recently too, uh we
provided funding on the
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veterans, uh what's the name of it?
Veterans Park.
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Um, project,
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uh the senior living facility on the
south side.
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number of funds from the Central
Housing Trust Fund that went to that.
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Um, on your screen there though are
the amounts of funding
[15:09]
that have been received by the
Central Housing Trust Fund.
[15:13]
Uh, there have been, there'd
generally been an increase in funding
since 2020.
[15:18]
Uh, part of that was the entire state
was the entire state was then covered
by Housing Trust Fund
[15:21]
and there was an acknowledgement from
the state that more money should be
put into housing,
[15:27]
uh, so one of those avenues was to
allocate more funds to housing trust
funds.
[15:32]
And as part of that, there was an
increase in local match.
[15:36]
Uh, but uh each year
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might have this.
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Yeah. Anyway, each year there's funds
that are required to be raised
locally.
[15:48]
Uh, the housing trust funds do that
in a variety of ways.
[15:51]
The Central Housing Trust Fund
decided at inception that the best
way to do that was to
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uh, have one entity provide a local
guaranteed local match.
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And that's what the City of Knoxville
has done.
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From inception has provided that
guaranteed local match for the entire
Four County region.
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Um, and you can see those amounts on
the screen have steadily increased
last year,
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uh, the City of Knoxville guaranteed
that $143,302 in local match.
[16:22]
Uh, this year the resolution that
we're asking for tonight
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was for $49,000, $49,000 and $97,
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uh, because the state acknowledged
that raising local funds for housing
trust funds
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has become a struggle with the
pressures on local government,
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uh, so they reduced the local match
amount to 10% instead of previous
years it was 25%.
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So, that's the change here recently.
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Uh, there was also just a general
reduction for 2027
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in overall funding at the state
level.
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So, funding's awarded on a two-year
contract basis,
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All funds that have been awarded up
through 2025 have been allocated and
spent
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across the Four County region.
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Uh, there's still funds from 2026
that are being spent.
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Uh, and those amounts are listed
there, about 39% of the funding has
been spent
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and projects are actively spending
those dollars as we speak.
[17:23]
Uh, 2026 projects specifically that
were funded through the Central
Housing Trust Fund.
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Uh, as I mentioned, Habitat for
Humanity here in Marion County has
received funding,
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they received about 226,000.
[17:35]
Um, and I know that there's been a
collaboration here with the City of
Knoxville on that.
[17:40]
Uh, the City of Newton did a
waterline replacement program.
[17:44]
Sally retirement home, that was
window replacement, a senior living
facility.
[17:49]
Uh, Jasper County itself received
funds for their general generally
general relief program.
[17:56]
Uh, Habitat for Humanity in Jasper
County also received money.
[17:59]
Uh, City of Norwalk, and More County
Habitat also received money
[18:04]
for non-occupied repair and then the
Heal Housing and you know received
funds
[18:09]
to make repairs to their facility.
[18:14]
Uh, as I as I noted earlier, each
housing trust fund has to raise that
local match.
[18:20]
Uh, when and when the Central housing
trust fund was created, it was
decided that
[18:24]
each funding recipient would have to
raise their money, their local match.
[18:29]
Uh, but to do that, we had to have an
entity that was willing to
[18:34]
guarantee that local match even
though they might never come ask for
that dollars.
[18:40]
So, um, we put that local match
requirement on the funding recipient
[18:44]
and then you end up with a timing
issue because
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we apply in October for our state
funds and we have to have those local
match dollars guaranteed.
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We then don't award funds out until
January or February
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after we have state award.
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So, uh, there becomes a timing issue
on that, so that's why we're here
asking for that guarantee.
[19:12]
So, that solution is that local match
guaranteed resolution
[19:15]
and the City of Knoxville as I
mentioned has been doing that from
the get-go.
[19:21]
And I just want to point out for
those that you were new,
[19:24]
the Central Housing Trust Fund has
never asked for this money, it's only
been a guarantee on paper.
[19:30]
Um, and I know that there's been some
benefits like the thriving
communities
[19:34]
because that helped underscoring
because you guys were able to
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add that to your things that you had
done.
[19:41]
Uh, so there has been some benefit
that way for the city.
[19:45]
[clears throat]
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So, I do have on here just in case
this question comes up, what happens
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in the event Central Trust Fund is
unable to secure the local match to
meet the requirements,
[19:58]
I suppose there could be some weird
scenario where something like that
happens, so there are a couple
options.
[20:02]
there that I have listed.
[20:04]
you know, if the funds weren't raised
by the applicants,
[20:07]
which is a requirement for them to
apply, but
[20:09]
uh, if they were if that didn't
happen,
[20:13]
Um, the city would not be out of
pocket for anything.
[20:17]
We would send the money back. the
corresponding state amount.
[20:21]
uh, would return those funds. So, uh,
there wouldn't be a
[20:23]
requirement that the city, uh,
actually double for these dollars.
[20:27]
Um, and then also I have on here, if
for example,
[20:30]
the city wanted to use those dollars
if there was
[20:33]
something that was returned, uh, the
city could come up with that
[20:36]
local match and provide that and give
the larger
[20:39]
corresponding, uh, portion of the
money as well.
[20:43]
So, there are a couple options there
if
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something like that were to happen,
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in all of the years that we've done
this, it hasn't happened.
[20:50]
So, Um, I, one last thing here just,
you know, thank you to the
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City of Knoxville for continuing to
do this.
[20:57]
Um, it's been more than a four
million dollar investment
[20:59]
across the Four County region because
of
[21:02]
and here guys's willingness to go out
and guarantee these, um,
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guarantee these dollars as far as
local match is concerned.
[21:10]
And as a note, uh, the mayor does
serve on the
[21:12]
Central Iowa housing Trust Fund
board. So.
[21:17]
Gladly.
[21:19]
Happy to answer any question you
might have.
[21:22]
Uh, first, thank you, uh, for for
presenting,
[21:25]
uh, and thank you to you and Andrew
for all the work
[21:27]
you do to do. This is
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a great addition, uh, to Marion
County and to Knoxville.
[21:34]
Um, you mentioned a couple times that
the Habitat for
[21:37]
Humanity, um, for critical home
repair,
[21:41]
and that has truly been a blessing.
[21:43]
Uh, you know, I don't know how many
times we've had people
[21:46]
come to us or to me or to whoever it
[21:47]
whatever the situation is,
[21:49]
and they truly need help and for
years it was like, I
[21:51]
don't I don't know, let's try this or
try that and now
[21:53]
it it just
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it feels so good to be able to say I
know right where to
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go. you know, you know,
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call habitat and and usually there's
there's a place for him and and
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habitat does a great job of
administering that and and
[22:04]
getting people the help that they
need in that critical time.
[22:06]
So, that is truly been a blessing.
[22:12]
Any other questions or comments,
Bruce?
[22:15]
My understanding is we're see as much
as a quarter million
[22:17]
dollars in benefit for guaranteeing
[22:21]
49,000 on our end.
[22:22]
And I would say that it's a good
deal.
[22:30]
Well, thank you. Yep. Thank you, you
know.
[22:33]
Appreciate your work and we're happy
to be a partner.
[22:37]
Okay. Do we have a motion to?
[22:41]
I think I'll make a motion to approve
the resolution
[22:43]
to guarantee the local match for the
Central
[22:45]
Iowa Housing Trust Fund.
[22:47]
Second. Motion by Nichols.
[22:50]
Seconded by Gotter. Roll call,
please.
[22:53]
Nichols? Yes. Ranken?
[22:55]
Yes. Lasada? Yes. Gada? Yes.
[22:59]
Motion passes.
[23:02]
Thank you.
[23:06]
Okay. 43. Uh, take from the table,
[23:09]
approved the first consideration,
possible wave second and third
[23:13]
consideration, then adopt an
ordinance omitting the code
[23:15]
of ordinances, the city of Knoxville,
[23:17]
by amending provisions pertaining to
building code.
[23:20]
So this was the one last time we
weren't ready to move
[23:23]
forward with, so we tabled.
[23:24]
We just need a motion to remove that,
um, from the table so we
[23:27]
can proceed with discussions.
[23:30]
Move to remove it from the table.
[23:33]
Second. Motion
[23:35]
by Lada, second by Rankin.
[23:38]
Roll call, please.
[23:39]
Lada? Yes. Ranken?
[23:41]
Yes. Gotter? Yes. Nichols? Yes.
[23:44]
Okay.
[23:46]
44 is, uh, first consideration,
possible wave second and third,
[23:48]
adopt an ordinance pertaining to
building code.
[23:54]
just briefly.
[23:57]
Um, as I mentioned at the first
meeting in September, it's common
practice for cities to
[24:01]
adopt building codes that are
prepared and published by the
International Code Council, ICC,
[24:07]
which serve as a national model
ensuring that local regulations
reflect modern construction
[24:11]
safety and economic realities.
[24:17]
Um, specifically, uh, regarding
tonight, we're we're speaking about
the
[24:21]
Knoxville building code,
[24:24]
which is comprised of three ICC
codes, um,
[24:29]
presently.
[24:32]
All of them are 2018 editions, and
those include the
[24:35]
International Building Code, the
International
[24:38]
Residential Code and the
International
[24:40]
existing Building Code.
[24:43]
So essentially what this ordinance
before you is
[24:46]
proposing is to
[24:49]
update and, uh, for the city to begin
using we move from the
[24:53]
2018 edition of those codes to the
2024 edition
[24:57]
of those codes.
[25:02]
And it's also common for cities to
make some local amendments, which I
explained at the last meeting,
[25:11]
especially with the, as we were
talking about the fire code.
[25:14]
So not only does the ordinance before
you, uh, formally adopt those
[25:19]
2024 additions,
[25:21]
but it also spells out some
amendments
[25:27]
to those codes so that we can tailor
it if umm more to our needs and not.
[25:32]
And probably the big the biggie is
the big the biggie is the requirement
in those national codes
[25:38]
to require a fire sprinkler system in
a one or two family residence,
[25:44]
so a single family home or a duplex.
[25:47]
Our amendment is saying that that's
only required if you're
[25:50]
for a single family home if it's over
8,000 square feet.
[25:55]
So we're providing it,
[25:57]
we're providing an exception, um,
which is pretty common for
[26:01]
a lot of communities to opt out of
that.
[26:05]
but that's just an example of how
we're tailoring the national code
models to
[26:10]
best meet our our needs here locally.
[26:16]
I got a couple of questions, um, and
I'm no builder.
[26:21]
If you look at some of the latest
structures whether it be at home or
commercial building built around
here,
[26:27]
Changing these codes to what we're
planning to change it to
[26:29]
the international code.
[26:31]
how many of these buildings would
have met everything in, you know,
[26:33]
that the builders are already doing
it or would we even require
[26:36]
under our latest and greatest
dwellings around here to have had
[26:39]
some things done differently.
[26:42]
So we're we're already using the in
the these these
[26:45]
we're already using these codes now.
[26:48]
We're just using the 2018 additions.
[26:51]
Um.
[26:54]
There's a booklet, I guess, that goes
along with that that explains what
some of the changes are,
[27:00]
but I can't I can't speak to each of
those,
[27:03]
but it's it's fairly common for
communities to move to
[27:07]
a more recent addition just because
these codes
[27:11]
aren't necessarily being updated to
make it more difficult to build.
[27:19]
They're also being updated to reflect
changes in construction and to
[27:24]
just be more current.
[27:27]
Um, I think to answer your question,
and then that a code expert,
[27:31]
although I can pretend to be one.
[27:36]
the international existing building
code is probably the one that's, uh,
comes into play more frequently.
[27:44]
the 18 or the 24?
[27:45]
Either one.
[27:46]
Um, with our existing buildings,
particularly like the buildings on a
square for instance,
[27:53]
and that's a that's a code that
recognizes that there are existing
conditions in older buildings
[27:59]
that, you know, we just have to live
with.
[28:03]
Okay.
[28:04]
And, um, essentially accepts those
conditions for what they are.
[28:09]
So that essentially would prevent
someone from having to install an
elevator
[28:15]
in an existing commercial building,
[28:19]
like a two-story commercial building,
which may be required of one.
[28:26]
Yeah, my only concern, and the reason
I I I asked that kind of question
[28:30]
would be if I don't really want to
use the term concern, but
[28:33]
Yeah, I just want to make sure it
doesn't stunt any progress while that
[28:38]
we don't put ourselves in a position
where
[28:41]
we're not trying to make it more, um,
difficult or more expensive.
[28:45]
Cost is what I was mostly.
[28:47]
Yeah. And that example about the fire
sprinkler system, uh,
[28:50]
there's a substantial cost that would
go along with that that goes along
with
[28:54]
that if you're building a new single
family home.
[28:57]
You think some communities here in
Iowa specifically adopt, you build a
home,
[29:01]
you got to put a fire sprinkler
system?
[29:03]
I don't.
[29:04]
There's not a lot of that that is.
[29:06]
So some have it like we do exempted
out to a square footage
[29:09]
and more like a duplex
[29:11]
or so many units under under roof.
[29:15]
That makes sense.
[29:16]
Um, the state, so kind of what got us
started on this path was
[29:20]
in September, the state adopted the
24 editions of the code.
[29:24]
So they're kind of keep in line with
the state.
[29:29]
We felt it was time for us to, um,
[29:32]
plus it also affects for ISO scoring
if we can stay within
[29:34]
fire code cycles.
[29:36]
So, um,
[29:39]
There's a lot that plays into when we
adopt and when we move the codes,
but,
[29:43]
the goal is to keep it all as precise
and local as we can.
[29:49]
Yeah, I and the majority of
communities, I would say in the
Demoin area,
[29:52]
not all adopted these ICC bottle
codes.
[29:57]
Um, they're all, I know Adela for
instance, I think they're wrapping up
[30:00]
tonight.
[30:02]
adapting the 2024 editions as well.
[30:04]
So that's also good for consistency
purposes because you know, some of
these
[30:09]
developers work in multiple
jurisdictions and so they're all sort
of working on uh
[30:14]
same or similar corporations.
[30:16]
Do we ever, when something like this
comes up,
[30:19]
do we ever, do we have like a trusted
panel of developers or anybody that
[30:22]
would say, hey, this is what we're
thinking about doing?
[30:26]
What what what good, bad things you
see of us adopting
[30:29]
or this kind of go by your knowledge.
[30:32]
You know, you rely heavily on the
expertise through our uh
[30:36]
building inspection uh company, Kim.
[30:41]
to they, I mean,
[30:43]
when we were looking at the fire
code, what we'd heavily into that was
our own
[30:47]
our own staff because we happen to
have that that expertise on staff.
[30:52]
In terms of, you know, building codes
and inspections, we rely on
[30:56]
the expertise of our consultant
company, Kim.
[31:00]
And so they weighed heavily into um
what what should be adopted or what
[31:05]
should be amended here locally based
on what they're seeing other
communities
[31:09]
do as well.
[31:12]
We're we're in no way, I think I
[31:14]
think you weren't here, but I
explained it at the last meeting.
[31:16]
We're in no way trying to be
different from the other community,
[31:19]
from the other community, we're we're
wanting to be within the
[31:24]
the realm of what is just generally
expected by the development
[31:27]
community.
[31:31]
And I'm not always opposed to being
different from it.
[31:33]
But sure, when it comes to the, you
know, the momentum we have there, I'd
be very
[31:38]
careful about yeah. And I don't claim
to be an expert, but I did pay close
[31:42]
attention and reading what's out. So
[31:44]
I'm good.
[31:45]
Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it.
[31:51]
to approve the first consideration of
way of the first consideration.
[31:54]
To adopt an ordinance amending the
code of ordinances of the city of
Knoxville
[31:59]
I will probably provisions pertaining
to the building code.
[32:09]
Second.
[32:11]
Motion by God, a second and by
Rankin.
[32:14]
Well, Got it.
[32:16]
Yes. Yes. Rankin. Yes. Nichols. Yes.
[32:20]
Motion passed. Thank you.
[32:23]
or five approve payment of claims.
[32:27]
Motion to approve payment of claims.
[32:30]
Second.
[32:32]
Motion by Rankin, seconded by
Gottard.
[32:35]
Well, Got it.
[32:36]
Yes. Rankin. Yes.
[32:37]
Nichols. Yes. Pasada. Yes.
[32:40]
Motion passes.
[32:42]
reports.
[32:46]
Um, I want to still have a summon,
I'm sure she's going to tell us about
[32:50]
the ribbon cutting at
[32:51]
Katie.
[32:53]
You. You can go. Okay.
[32:54]
Is it this Wednesday?
[32:57]
Um, at the new KD development at 3
o'clock, they'll have a ribbon
cutting
[33:02]
for the new buildings that they are
the new buildings that they are the
new buildings they have already
completed.
[33:06]
And I think those are six of those
and I just received certificates of
[33:09]
occupancy from being KNA for two.
[33:13]
Got. So there's now eight.
[33:16]
And I think they're very much, I
don't know the breakdown, but they're
they're of
[33:19]
duplex, six plex, and four plex.
[33:21]
And the ones that they've opened up,
we're filling out.
[33:24]
Yes.
[33:27]
Um, our building inspector can't get
the the certificate of occupancy
quick enough
[33:32]
because I'm hearing from evening,
hey, we need that certificate of
occupancy
[33:35]
because we've got people moving in.
[33:37]
Yeah. So that's pretty promising.
[33:39]
That's good. That's very exciting.
[33:40]
Anyway, they're having a ribbon
cutting so if anyone's interested at
3 o'clock
[33:44]
this Wednesday out there at the new
development.
[33:47]
That's great. Glad to have them here
in town.
[33:50]
Sorry.
[33:51]
Okay.
[33:52]
I'll make a comment. I just wanted to
thank everybody for their passion,
support
[33:56]
over the last few months.
[33:58]
So.
[34:03]
I don't know.
[34:05]
Okay.
[34:06]
Okay.
[34:08]
Who's coming?
[34:09]
Oh, the board.
[34:10]
About a thousand.
[34:12]
Okay.
[34:14]
There's nothing further with that.
[34:15]
Do we have a motion to adjourn the
closed session according to section
[34:21]
215J purpose for sale of property.
[34:26]
So.
[34:27]
Second.
[34:29]
Motion by God, a second and by
Rankin.
[34:31]
Well, Got it.
[34:32]
Franken. Yes. Got it. Yes.
[34:34]
Pasada. Yes. Nichols. Yes.
[34:39]
Motion passed.