[15:52] I'm sorry for the technical difficulties, but it's Monday, I'll show you the things.

[16:02] Fall to order, council member Taylor, council member Carlson, council member Dull, council

[16:11] member Chamberlain, and council member Ferrollo, president, great, everybody's here.

[16:18] I think in the letter.

[16:18] I have to believe it doesn't, I

[16:25] plan to move to the United States.

[16:26] There's two writers I can let the United States know the American.

[16:30] I wanted to go and see the letter.

[16:31] If you can read the letter, and feel the American saying that it's

[16:33] going to be much more important, it's going to be much more important.

[16:44] Next, I am on business for agenda is public comments.

[16:50] If there is any public comments, please state their name and let us ask them.

[16:55] Please limit your time to 5 minutes.

[16:59] Yes, sir.

[17:02] So I'm Warren Smith.

[17:05] I live in Shelter Bank.

[17:06] Just wanted to let everybody know that we are doing favels fare this Saturday.

[17:10] on 1226 along with a big foot salvation and so we bite everybody to come down and enjoy.

[17:20] And what time is it start? 12 o'clock.

[17:23] It's the last of six.

[17:24] Perfect.

[17:25] And then in the future we're hoping to have a surprise for our fellow people.

[17:32] Oh yes and thanks to Jennifer for being such a big help to us.

[17:35] Thank you. We will count that on to Jennifer. All good things are good.

[17:43] Any other comments?

[17:47] Okay, no public comments.

[17:51] Presentations, Jean, would you like to come up and introduce yourself and I talked to a council about.

[17:58] So you're sitting in glasses, yes, so I'm Jane Marker and I'm the library director for those of you who don't know me.

[18:07] And as you guys know, the town gives the library about $4,000 or some of the info brand.

[18:16] And this year because we had a little bit of extra money from our revenue grant that we also get for some of the meaning.

[18:23] we have some of that town money left over. I look today and we have just around

[18:31] $850 left over. And what we're hoping is to do a baby city, oh my gosh, I can't

[18:38] talk, is learning. I was used to it. A baby sitter certification class for 10

[18:45] LeConn residents. I think that Martin mentioned it last week a little bit. You just got

[18:51] about the other piece of our funding.

[18:53] I was so off in Las Vegas, a generous donation.

[18:55] We found out today that they approved it.

[18:58] So what we're hoping to do is to make this an annual thing

[19:02] and to spend the extra portion of some of the music funds

[19:06] to complete the funding for our babysitting class.

[19:10] As I said, it was certified 10 kids.

[19:13] They would not do a fly because it is,

[19:15] it's not an inexpensive venture that we're doing.

[19:18] So we want to make sure that this cliche goes.

[19:21] they have a little skin in the game,

[19:23] they would have to be a Connor residence

[19:25] or a Connor student's.

[19:28] And it would allow, it's an edge process certification.

[19:31] So they get both a babysitter, certification,

[19:35] and infant first aid and CPR.

[19:38] And it's an eight hour course that would take place

[19:40] on a Saturday, hopefully before December.

[19:44] We have to work with Red Cross the schedule

[19:46] and unfortunately until we have our location they own down,

[19:49] they won't give us dates, so they can schedule.

[19:53] So we're working on possibly doing it at the shelf,

[19:58] not shelf of it, the swing on the shelf,

[20:00] or possibly the Shelter Bay Community Center, perfect.

[20:05] So we just, you would talk about the garden club,

[20:08] and we think that might be just a hair too small.

[20:10] Okay.

[20:12] The class requires a seven-foot by seven-foot square

[20:16] for what we can tell for each student.

[20:19] So it requires a lot of space.

[20:21] Okay, that's fine, is there any questions?

[20:26] How do you talk to Aaron about doing that at the fire station?

[20:29] No, but that's a thought. Is there a space there?

[20:32] Yeah, there's a meeting room.

[20:34] It's a little bit narrower than this,

[20:36] but a little bit longer.

[20:38] Okay, yeah, I have a great table.

[20:41] As I don't know, it has a square footage

[20:43] of seven feet per each.

[20:45] Do you know what this is going to be?

[20:47] Is it a new one?

[20:48] I don't think it's that big.

[20:49] It's not, I mean, at the garden.

[20:50] Well, it's 70 by 70 feet.

[20:53] No, it's 80.

[20:54] Oh, it's 80.

[20:56] Yeah, it's 80.

[20:57] Yeah, it's 80.

[20:58] Yeah, it's 80.

[20:59] Well, we're just, you know, for our amateur.

[21:02] Yeah, it's a great.

[21:03] Yeah.

[21:04] First feed.

[21:05] So what we have left over from the fun.

[21:08] If I'm 900 with something dollars. No, it's roughly 850. We have a couple things that we haven't. Okay, all right. So my estimate is about 850. Okay.

[21:20] All right.

[21:21] So.

[21:22] So council, you have any more questions to get and then you're going to let us know for next year to have this kind of repeating itself.

[21:32] Yeah, because our whole is to make this an annual thing.

[21:36] We really want to do it in the spring going forward so that the kids can get geared up for summer babysitting.

[21:43] Yes. This year because we need to spend money from the town before the end of the year, we'll do it in the fall.

[21:51] But again, it'll make a lot more sense. And you know, there's holiday babysitting coming up.

[21:56] So it does make some sense to do it now. But in the future, it'd be nice to do it in the summer or in the spring.

[22:02] So they did do that first. Yeah. How long are those certifications valid for?

[22:07] I believe. I just looked it up. It's one or two years. I can't remember. It's two. I think it is two. Yeah.

[22:15] Those are some of the majors.

[22:16] Those are some of the majors.

[22:18] Oh, good question. It's 11, 16.

[22:22] Okay. So, and we'll try to focus it, you know, probably 12 to 15, 16, something like that.

[22:30] I think so.

[22:31] us. Yeah, we're excited about it. It was, um, yeah, when, when I thought we could

[22:36] Jane, um, and Sarah, yeah, and unfortunately, Karen couldn't be here. It

[22:41] sound like something that would be really good for the town for the kids. Oh, and, and just,

[22:47] yeah. And I wish we could actually do it in the library so that the kids could be in the library,

[22:53] but just aren't being enough. No, no. Our poor meeting room could maybe handle three.

[22:58] So what we're asking is for Council to approve giving them,

[23:06] bridging the mind of others with that.

[23:07] So consensus or motion?

[23:11] We'll do a contract amendment so it'd be a motion.

[23:16] I move that we approve action that not for modification to contracts with this library to accommodate.

[23:25] They say if I may be seeing us, they're right across.

[23:28] They're fans who need it.

[23:30] I second.

[23:32] Pretty much any further discussion?

[23:36] All those in favor?

[23:37] All right.

[23:38] All right.

[23:39] Okay, I'm totally okay.

[23:41] All right, thank you.

[23:43] Thank you.

[23:43] Who made the motion?

[23:46] I'm going to leave.

[23:47] Councilperson Chamberlain,

[23:48] Councilperson Wall said in this.

[23:50] Okay, great.

[23:51] Thank you.

[23:51] Thanks, Jane.

[23:52] Thank you so much.

[23:53] So, Greg, are you sent you the meeting every day of the past two?

[23:59] Yeah, yeah.

[24:01] Yeah.

[24:02] Yeah, sure.

[24:04] So, should I contact you to do that?

[24:06] All right.

[24:07] Then you'll need not so far.

[24:08] Awesome.

[24:09] Thank you.

[24:10] Thank you.

[24:13] And I'm getting a motion for the consent agencies.

[24:19] I move to approve the consent agenda.

[24:21] Another second.

[24:25] Second.

[24:25] I'll second.

[24:26] Council.

[24:27] Personal, I have made the motion.

[24:28] Councilor Berzy.

[24:30] Second is there any other discussion?

[24:33] All is in favor.

[24:34] Hi, hi.

[24:36] Thank you.

[24:36] Motion.

[24:37] Terrific.

[24:37] Thank you very much.

[24:40] Underreign for.

[24:43] I'm hoping that you all saw that Mark would not be able to make up tonight.

[24:47] and we said it was logistics and everything like that.

[24:51] So if you have questions, you're going to have to contact you.

[24:56] Thank you.

[24:58] And revenue and spending services.

[25:05] Here's a date through the month of August.

[25:08] Our revenue is running at $4.65 million.

[25:12] dollars. It has about 72% of our budget revenues so if we keep going like this we should be able

[25:22] to get our budget. On the extension side we are at $3.48 million and our budget is $7.44

[25:31] only at 47% on that side of our budget. However we have several items that are coming up. We have

[25:41] little remodel for Town Hall.

[25:50] Town Hall and Carpening are a lot of part we have

[25:55] recap plans. We have security panels that are in the need of going in for

[25:59] higher part. We are looking, I think we're all simply with the meter upgrade

[26:06] project for the year. We have a great study plan for our water room during each

[26:11] rates. We do have in our wastewater treatment area, we're looking at

[26:18] concrete heads and blocks of putting in as well as the new NXCIRC before the end of

[26:22] year, so we do have some expenditures that are going to bring that percentage up

[26:27] before we get to the end of the year. On our sales tax, we're 8,528,000, which is 78% of

[26:36] our budget. And I was looking back and September and October are highest months in sales tax.

[26:43] So I'll be curious to see if that trend holds. But we've had a really good year in sales tax.

[26:50] Our hotel motel is at 110,000, which is running at 68 percent. And same thing with hotel motel,

[26:57] we see our largest revenue in the months of September and October. So we'll see if that holds

[27:06] and then property tax that will be coming in again in October.

[27:10] And we should be fairly close to what we've budgeted in those areas as well.

[27:15] And we are up to our high balls in budgeting for 2021.

[27:22] I think I just find a moment working over the expenses we add.

[27:27] We'll be on our consent agenda, everything is growing up.

[27:33] So it's like startling everything.

[27:37] Yes.

[27:38] So I'm glad our revenues have gone up a little bit because they're going to be that wiped out.

[27:44] We increase costs.

[27:46] And yes, it's true.

[27:48] Just instruct me as well.

[27:51] Everything is costing a lot.

[28:02] Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you

[28:05] for sharing it.

[28:09] We've started with reports,

[28:14] anything for Asia?

[28:17] Karen's on here, Ryan Beth, they're coming.

[28:20] Tim is hearing this.

[28:22] They're reports.

[28:25] It looks busy.

[28:27] You guys have a variety of, uh, sheriff report. I mean, a variety of calls to do.

[28:34] Yeah.

[28:35] Become more colorful.

[28:38] You're, yeah. You all doing okay?

[28:45] It does not mean smile.

[28:48] So, last spitting, then would you mind reporting to counsel what you said in our deferment

[28:58] meeting today about the hours about the ex-owned deputy?

[29:05] So, as you may recall, the contract has been counting in the town for 80 hours within a ten

[29:11] minute response time.

[29:12] And my presence in town is the bulk of that each week and the head start was that, if

[29:19] If I'm not in town, then coverage falls to the zone deputy, which is Western scathing

[29:23] county.

[29:24] And so my boss, the kind of bills, but I don't mean also the patrol sergeants is reminding

[29:30] them, constructing them to make sure that their zone one deputy is coming through town for

[29:36] political patrols and patrol checks to be present.

[29:43] So that we're not viewing that ADRs as a minimum.

[29:48] So we're trying to maximize our shoes.

[29:52] Thank you.

[29:53] Sorry.

[29:55] Your hours are real.

[29:57] Yeah.

[29:58] Yeah.

[29:59] Yeah.

[30:00] That really wants to say.

[30:05] Okay, anything for Brian? Okay, no. Okay, it's underneath. All right.

[30:17] Do you have anything?

[30:18] No, I don't have anything.

[30:20] All right.

[30:21] Oh, you don't.

[30:23] It's it's Asia.

[30:24] Yeah, it's Asia.

[30:24] It's all Asia.

[30:26] Okay.

[30:27] All right.

[30:29] Mayor's report.

[30:30] I'm going to give a pop a little quick things.

[30:33] We'll.

[30:33] We had.

[30:35] I don't know.

[30:36] I'm not.

[30:36] The tree.

[30:38] I'll take it out.

[30:39] Oh.

[30:41] Okay.

[30:42] Okay, we had the DAR dedication of the Liberty Tree on the 30th of August, there was a very

[30:48] nice turnout. The evening was lovely and it worked really well. It was nice, it's done

[30:56] now, and really good luck.

[31:00] I was on board, and I'm just going to transit board directors,

[31:06] which will hopefully help with some of our stuff and went to the standard watershed annual meeting and we met with habitat for humanity, Brian and Asian myself.

[31:21] And I just wanted to let people know because I think it was in the paper last week that there's a woman build doesn't have to be just women only,

[31:29] but it's it's the Caldonium habitat town bones. It's going to be next Saturday, next Friday

[31:38] Saturday or Saturday Saturday, 18th or 19th, whatever those dates are. And then the following

[31:43] will be the 25th and 26th. You can sign up on their website and $35 you'll get lunch, a hard

[31:51] at and a shirt and lots of great encouragement to help these homes get finished so it would be a really

[32:00] good thing to try to spread the word. I don't know if anybody of any of the kids from the school

[32:07] I don't know how we get the board out but it would be really cool for them. That's all I've got to

[32:13] council committee reports. Parts will be you maybe in the Thursday. Right.

[32:18] I'm not going to report her facilities.

[32:26] Okay,

[32:30] great. Thank you.

[32:35] Unpushed business ordinance that I'm ending chapter 9.1.

[32:41] We'll call the municipal code.

[32:43] Scott, I think this is yours.

[32:45] It is mine, and I put it for you memo into the packet, which played this ordinance, but

[32:52] you know, in summary, there's four sections. The first section would prohibit parking

[32:59] on first street between Morris and Douglas Street, prepared at the time longer than four hours,

[33:07] between the hours of 6am and 6am. I missed the previous meeting. I understand this was discussed,

[33:14] and so I was trying to respond to requests from Redis Council meeting.

[33:22] Section two applies to properties that are within the residential zoning district.

[33:30] And so in these areas, this section would make it illegal to park a vehicle in such a way that the blockchain needs traffic

[33:41] and it would also prefer that parking a stable unlicensed vehicle or a boat outside of a building.

[33:52] And then finally, this session would prohibit parking of license vehicles or boats as well as unlicensed ones.

[34:01] In a location other than a driveway or under the perforated or impervious service.

[34:08] So it will move this off of laws and those types of things.

[34:14] There are walking around town, I noticed there's a number of vehicles that are unlicensed

[34:21] when we're the other and parked outside, so this will have an impact when I want to be

[34:28] clear about that.

[34:30] And then finally, I should point out that in enforcement, there's always a condition

[34:35] the bond having a staffing and available for that. So there would be a bunch of carrying

[34:40] the impact. What they think is I don't really know, it depends on what counsel of this.

[34:46] Quick question. So if someone owns a lot next to their house, can they put their boat down

[34:52] in a lot?

[34:56] If there's a tribe with them, a lot. A lot of them don't so need to have a drag.

[35:35] Yes, that's true. We don't. I did not address. I did not include a parking permit provision or parking pass, if you will.

[35:46] that's possibility, although that's an additional expense as well.

[35:51] Stat time for not only enforcement, but also issuing permits and that's okay.

[35:58] Okay, the thing is, is when we covered it, 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. is, you know, there's a four-hour window there.

[36:07] So even if residents on first street, it should not really affect them.

[36:12] Well, I know a guy who he doesn't live on first street anymore, but he used to live on first street and he works for the fairies. He used to work a week of days and a week of nights.

[36:24] So on his week of nights, his car would be parked there all day.

[36:28] Okay, so we don't know the schedule of the people.

[36:33] No, that's true.

[36:33] Maybe one of them might be working with us already.

[36:35] It might need to provide that to some kind of exception.

[36:40] It's got to be back.

[36:41] You know, one of them, you can find the, kind of, the opposite.

[36:51] Well, that seems like, you know, we're getting into the weeds there, honestly.

[36:56] Yeah, I think we need like a sticker, sort of sticker that's what we put on our car.

[37:02] questions that says I'm a resident here and we would probably would have their license number

[37:11] and the vehicle urged you know what it looks like and then they get this house and they're they're

[37:17] exempt from this system. It's very common in scenes. It's very common.

[37:23] They might be, I mean on Wednesday, all my clothes parked in my house. Yeah. Most of the day,

[37:28] I'll go somewhere.

[37:30] So, you know, I think the path is the way to build it.

[37:35] And I think that's logistics.

[37:38] But this, this, this is after, you know, after our retreat.

[37:43] Oh, this is got some.

[37:45] It's a really good start.

[37:47] So that the president's think is a bit of a wrinkle.

[37:51] If you could address that with minimizing staff time by the issuing.

[37:56] in exchange for sharing the vehicle license plate in the owner.

[38:04] Do we need to add commercial to the Douglas?

[38:09] Because this block right here is commercial.

[38:13] If we go address that, then people might say,

[38:17] Well, I was on a commercial on Douglas, so.

[38:20] Yes.

[38:22] So I'm kind of back to my thought about, I mean, there were property owners that they used to be full.

[38:32] They didn't have to move on directly, but they could be full parked in there a lot next door with them.

[38:37] Wow, it's still their property.

[38:39] This is not a street.

[38:42] And it's actually a safe way to.

[38:44] of a boat which you're backing all the way into here

[38:48] or not, as opposed to trying to do it

[38:51] on the street, which straps traffic.

[38:53] So anyway, that's a thought that they own that

[38:58] we might consider.

[39:00] Well, if they have a ground down as a driveway

[39:04] and then they could park the boat.

[39:06] They could, they're not doing that.

[39:08] She said, I said, I don't know.

[39:09] Yep, understood.

[39:10] understand. I mean, we're, you know, we've gotten an awful lot of different

[39:14] plays with a lot of different situations. And we're taking a stab at them.

[39:25] And questioning that, again, people who have gravel in front of their homes, can

[39:30] they put up signs? That's saying, a barking, not a street right away, a street

[39:42] I'm not just calling somebody out, I don't know if there is one, I really, I don't can

[39:51] make them put signs up, that's it, you can't park here, I don't think.

[39:54] There is a couple of town that they say no parking in it is public right away, right.

[40:03] And they should have been doing that, technically we're not allowed to put a sign, that is an

[40:08] invitation and an official traffic sign. I don't know if those look like official traffic

[40:13] now, but they're definitely not a regular person. Okay. I'm

[40:20] feeling the topic. I know.

[40:26] It is. I can't scratch it. It is. I can't scratch it. We just can't and we won't keep it

[40:40] of this, I mean, too, because it's still

[40:43] just like training to grab it.

[40:46] What's that?

[40:46] Well, yeah.

[40:47] But I mean, there's like rattled right away.

[40:50] The intent is to keep it off,

[40:53] keep vehicles off of grass and turning it into,

[40:57] but.

[40:58] That makes sense.

[41:01] I'm just going to throw this out here too.

[41:02] It's like, there are so many employees to park on first street

[41:06] for over four hours.

[41:08] for the shops and the restaurants.

[41:12] We're trying to come up to them.

[41:14] I know, but they're going to build all the slots

[41:18] down by the retirement centers.

[41:20] Those businesses are going to see any flow of car movement

[41:25] for hours.

[41:26] I'm just going to add out there.

[41:28] Understood.

[41:29] Understood.

[41:31] We're going to make pedestrians celebration.

[41:35] So the break of that strings, everybody start walking towards her.

[41:40] Well, you know, for a long time, if I, if I'm not correct prior to me, we had stickers that gave each business two stickers for them to have them parked down in our lawns.

[41:56] and then that was monitored that way,

[42:03] except they started just getting as many stickers as they wanted.

[42:10] And then that, you know, and then it was ridiculous.

[42:14] Okay, so.

[42:20] Yeah, yeah, that's the whole line. Well, that's pretty good. Yeah, okay.

[42:26] So maybe to reinstitute the speaker program with a different color.

[42:31] Yeah, so handle on the old, less than one or effective.

[42:34] The old ones are here by the year. So I have to create that. But again,

[42:40] we would have to do a little bit of PR work and you know maybe have code

[42:47] and force you're going into each merchant and saying this is taking a fat

[42:53] on such and such a day and this is what you have to do for his or her employees

[42:57] and this is why and then you know give a bit of a grace period but not not just

[43:04] ignored because only might as well not do all of this.

[43:06] Well, instead of a sticker, maybe we could have a clocker that you hang from your mirror that way, you could change it like if you live on first three and you have two different vehicles, you could change it between vehicles.

[43:19] Yeah, there's a sticker is kind of permanent.

[43:22] Yeah, I mean, there's ways of doing that. Yeah, that's a great idea. Like they discover.

[43:26] Yeah.

[43:27] If I could discover about us, yeah.

[43:29] No.

[43:30] And then any car that would be any car that was going to be associated with that past would have to be registered.

[43:38] Yeah.

[43:39] Yeah.

[43:40] I mean, there's ways to do it.

[43:42] We want to get the intent here and then let the staff figure out how they're going to.

[43:47] Well, given the one way.

[43:54] Yes.

[43:55] So people had an opportunity to hear first hand, the reason behind it, and be heard with

[44:02] their concerns, and maybe even have those addressed to the extent possible.

[44:08] I think that approach makes sense, given our reasonable success of the first food.

[44:16] But your audience is headed in the right direction.

[44:20] Yeah.

[44:21] So I just think.

[44:24] Go ahead, Rick.

[44:37] We should pass this without having something in there for the resident.

[44:40] Typically.

[44:41] Yeah, we need to give you a few jokes to it.

[44:44] Yeah.

[44:47] So I'm hearing the only thing we really want to address is residential parking.

[44:53] past who's the power that works out, was there anything else?

[45:00] Sort of the application. Yeah. Again, it goes from, you know, I'm more as food. That was. I wonder if it's earlier than 6 p.m. would be okay. Earlier than 6 p.m., like 6 a.m. to 5 a.m. I don't know why I'm saying that. There are some stores that are open to set. So I think that's why. Yeah, there are more.

[45:29] There are more interesting, more and more core stores

[45:32] that are open until six, right?

[45:34] Then we just accept them.

[45:37] Just accept them.

[45:38] I just don't see much going on except restaurants.

[45:41] Yeah, okay.

[45:44] Anything else, council?

[45:46] I mean, there's a lot of stuff in here,

[45:49] so make sure that you've read it.

[45:51] I've been cleaning up the feeds, looks good, yeah.

[45:54] That was a huge improvement.

[45:55] Make it much simpler.

[45:56] But if we are going to explore getting the merchants, stickers again, or lacards or something to use the public lot, the pay job.

[46:11] Does that need to go in this ordinance, or is that done separately?

[46:22] There will be a financial impact for that as well, especially for several months out of

[46:28] a year, a lot of people, so understand, but it will also pull the next day, but it will

[46:35] also bring that same right here because versions have been complaining forever that, you know,

[46:40] some might be a wash. Yeah, one of the summaries we found the 10th kind of parking place,

[46:44] let me just leave. They're running it now. So, you know, the other thing is it's just

[46:51] entirely into it kind of. The trolley is if we were forced encouraging them to move to the parking

[47:00] be on, then there's ways to get the map up here.

[47:06] Is that correct?

[47:09] All right.

[47:11] So it's now we can only do a pass for our lot. We can't do.

[47:16] Orch, because there's so many people on that end.

[47:20] The last time I spoke before, it's been a couple of years, they indicated they were not even.

[47:24] They were not even doing that.

[47:26] Yeah.

[47:27] I don't know if that's changed or not.

[47:35] Well, they're safe to be more parking when you go down by their south dock, you know, you've got all those angle parking where the yacht club is and you've got the yacht club, you have the yacht club parking something we could ask the yacht club about because most of the time nobody is using that.

[48:01] But, again, they would have to know about you.

[48:05] I think yes, I think this is the nitty gritty,

[48:11] but I really think that we have been restless

[48:15] because this is on the side of the theater.

[48:17] And I just feel like we need to do something.

[48:20] We just can't put our head in the sand and say,

[48:22] all right, well, we'll do what the next year or six months

[48:25] from now, whatever it's got.

[48:31] I think there's going to be a big impact if people with the disabled, their own license

[48:39] vehicles or boats that they have to be stored in a fully enclosed building.

[48:47] And I don't know if I'm comfortable, that's pretty intense, like that's going to be

[49:00] a big impact for a lot of people, and the Connor's not in any way, I just feel like

[49:06] that takes away people's freedom to maybe buy something that they're fixing up, and they

[49:13] take forever to get around to fix on it, but it just seems too strict for many.

[49:23] What

[49:26] was that, Rick?

[49:27] Like

[49:40] a car cover?

[49:42] Yeah, a car cover.

[49:43] As an alternative to, I think, low-space.

[49:47] I mean, if the target here is to get rid of on-site leave,

[49:58] Well, that's just going to look a lot worse if you say you can have it, but if it covers then somebody's going to get someone can't put it out.

[50:14] Another option is to limit the number of vehicles to one or two.

[50:20] Yeah? That's fair. I can see that.

[50:25] I mean what we're trying to do is there are several areas

[50:28] if you go around town that has more than two vehicles. I mean they have four, five, six, seven,

[50:35] eight, nine, ten, and it's constant. I mean it's not like people are just visiting or having

[50:40] them party and then it doesn't happen. It's there, they're all the time. You know, I'm served streets,

[50:45] there's ones that are on JAPS for as long as I've lived here.

[50:51] I think we all know, you know,

[50:52] we all know. I mean, it's, do we have a liability issue? God can get a kid falls underneath that?

[51:04] Yeah, well, they tried, they were trying anyway, wouldn't they? Yeah, yeah, probably. Well,

[51:10] you know, at the attraction. No, but yeah, but with that, if we limited it to the number of vehicles

[51:17] in one space, would you have less angst for that? I think it was limited to like two or something like that.

[51:25] Then I would have less, but to say like, you have this boat that you bought, now you don't have to build

[51:31] a building around it. What kind of is not? We're now like a nature way. No, no, not understood.

[51:39] But we're trying to fix a problem that this, yeah, no, we're not in HOA.

[51:45] We have places to more votes, but if it's, if it's something that they're just going

[51:53] to hook on to a trailer to their truck and that, I'm sure that, okay, we're trying to solve

[52:00] parking.

[52:01] And we're mainly trying to solve parking on first-rate.

[52:04] That's correct.

[52:04] I think we should focus on, yes, but we've also got areas

[52:09] around town that are becoming job victims.

[52:13] Yes.

[52:14] And that's difficult.

[52:16] Because when you have to look at that all the time,

[52:19] it's very discouraging.

[52:22] I mean, it's not, it's not the,

[52:25] to the best of my knowledge there are areas

[52:28] where they're not cars that are owned by the people there.

[52:32] I don't know if they're storing them.

[52:34] I don't know if they're working on them.

[52:35] Either picking up job vehicles and then working on them

[52:38] and then selling them.

[52:39] Right, but we've been talking about I think parking is a separate issue.

[52:44] Right, we talked about the parking issue, but now we're talking about this excernation.

[52:50] I agree with Ivan to some point here.

[52:53] I think we should really focus on the first three and nail that down.

[52:57] And then we can kind of circle back to residents.

[53:02] It's really, it is. It's really hard to look for the difficult, really difficult.

[53:06] and if you're making steps towards it, that this is tricky.

[53:16] My guess, I know there's a cleanup that happens every year for padlock neighbors that we go through

[53:27] and they do an annual auction for residents.

[53:36] I suspect that sometimes what we're seeing is a financial strain for folks to have no

[53:47] longer working vehicles removed.

[53:49] And I think that's an issue, but I think there are two areas in town that these parts

[53:58] never move.

[53:59] Yeah, I mean, there's RV, it's that bind's growing all over it, etc.

[54:05] It's, you know, it's only in the yard, can we, can we follow the health issue and

[54:11] well, the family is finally starting off that too, following up that.

[54:15] Yeah, well, yes, but you're kind of dodging the issue.

[54:20] Yeah.

[54:21] So I'm just trying to separate it.

[54:23] It's different from parking.

[54:24] Is it?

[54:25] Oh, yeah.

[54:27] What?

[54:29] I think it's an entirely different conversation.

[54:33] But they're both needed.

[54:35] Yeah.

[54:36] Yeah.

[54:37] Yeah.

[54:38] Everything's needed.

[54:39] Should we talk about?

[54:40] I mean, we need to be a way slower.

[54:41] If you're convinced you would talk about that.

[54:44] We're trying to take little bites of the apple.

[54:47] Okay.

[54:48] And we have been talking about this quite a long time.

[54:52] So if it's up, if council says no, we don't want to do it, then that's your

[54:57] problem. I'm just saying that we're trying and I've said this over and over again.

[55:04] Most things that citizens see is not the water sewer treatment plant or the water

[55:13] pipes or all the infrastructure stuff. What they see is cars not being moved

[55:19] down first street over and over and over again.

[55:22] And the thought is, well, if you're not doing that,

[55:24] what else not getting done?

[55:26] And I'm happy to have the conversation

[55:29] about jump vehicles.

[55:30] I just don't think it's the same topic as parking on first

[55:35] soon.

[55:35] No, no, it's too big.

[55:36] And I don't think it should be in the same ordinance.

[55:42] I think we've been trying to come up with a solution

[55:46] for parking on first street since long before

[55:48] or I was on the council, and I think that's what we need to focus on, and then yeah, in

[55:57] a separate ordinance, we can talk about John Bigels, but I don't understand why we're talking

[56:02] about it right now. I don't think working on first street is what we've been talking about

[56:10] at every meeting for like the last six months.

[56:12] That's correct. That's correct.

[56:15] You know, I've kind of started on leading courts,

[56:18] sobering the residential from the parking of the British district,

[56:23] because I certainly didn't get into this.

[56:26] And in any drive, you don't have driveways.

[56:29] I mean, a lot of houses, they only have the parking strip in front of their house.

[56:34] Correct. So I'm not going to do that.

[56:36] I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that.

[56:39] I think the prohibition to do some new deliverance with addressing residential separate is I agree with that.

[56:56] So you want to scratch your back to the drawing board on this and just to move the first street parking restrictions.

[57:03] Yeah. Yeah.

[57:05] We

[57:08] need an option for that.

[57:10] No.

[57:11] Right.

[57:12] To be continued.

[57:14] Yes.

[57:15] But we're going to do people.

[57:19] We don't want to.

[57:20] Yeah.

[57:21] We've got to keep chopping away.

[57:22] Because unfortunately, as, as we're getting new residential, you know, wait till 306,

[57:32] then we're finished.

[57:33] We're going to have a major part of the problem there.

[57:35] A major part of the problem there.

[57:37] And as we start expanding like this, we don't have enough farting.

[57:43] We just don't.

[57:45] Is there any objections to the farting interaction with penalty?

[57:50] Is what we do with that in America?

[57:56] Well, unfortunately, they're not always being enforced.

[57:59] There's parking in the firelight right now at the tavern.

[58:04] And it's constant.

[58:06] last night, I went there to pick up food and there's every single, you know, I don't know

[58:15] what we can do after five, Aaron works till five, or works till four, whatever he works

[58:20] to the element, they're right, but this is trying to clarify that. So it's kind of a separate

[58:27] issue. This isn't, it's changing the fee structure, it's changing the vines and trying to

[58:37] I think that should be included.

[58:39] I think that's fine.

[58:45] It's hugely simplified.

[58:46] Yeah, it is.

[58:48] I think that's not an early deal.

[58:50] Yeah.

[58:51] Yeah.

[58:52] Yeah.

[59:02] Okay, okay, okay, okay, I'm finished business at new business.

[59:12] We have a resolution before Townsville about the Appointment to the Arts Commission.

[59:18] I'm saying Perry would be too representative and she is a junior so we did it for two years rather than having to go if you were pushing very much.

[59:30] So that's the first resolution for the appointment to the arts commission for Shante Perry.

[59:36] So, that would be resolution 690-690-690-690-690-3, boy he and John D. Perry to the yard finishing.

[59:48] I so I can't.

[59:49] Councilperson, we all have made a motion.

[59:52] Councilperson Perlson seconded.

[59:55] Is there any further discussion?

[59:57] All of the favour.

[59:59] Aye.

[1:00:00] All right. Motion carried. The second resolution is appointment to the Emergency Management Commission,

[1:00:07] Charlene F., who is a nurse, relatively new in town, really wants to get involved. She was going

[1:00:16] to be here tonight, but she said the attempts, just as I was coming up here, that they hadn't

[1:00:20] able to see that she had to stay, that they had more patients. And that's okay. So I

[1:00:27] I held her that's fine and hopefully she could introduce herself.

[1:00:33] She really wants to be on the emergency management management.

[1:00:36] I think she can help with some of that.

[1:00:40] I move to approve resolution 694.

[1:00:45] That pointing.

[1:00:47] Charlene move to the emergency management committee.

[1:00:51] Mission.

[1:00:52] Okay.

[1:00:55] Council.

[1:00:55] So, first, Ms. Hayler made the motion.

[1:00:58] Councilperson Carlson seconded.

[1:01:00] Is there any further discussion?

[1:01:02] All those in favor?

[1:01:04] I have.

[1:01:05] I have.

[1:01:05] It's motion carried.

[1:01:07] Thank you very much.

[1:01:10] The next few items, the ordinances,

[1:01:14] we need to do a public hearing and then a motion.

[1:01:20] So, the first, the first one

[1:01:23] One is amending chapter 15, quite through subdivision of the Lycopter Municipal College

[1:01:28] Suppression.

[1:01:29] There are two, so what I will do is open up the public hearing portion at 6.50 and Asia

[1:01:43] would you like to explain what it is about?

[1:01:45] Sure.

[1:01:46] So this is a edit to our citizen code that basically allows for a more flexible form of law creation and ownership.

[1:01:56] This is a requirement from the state.

[1:01:58] So the state does require that we offer an ownership option.

[1:02:02] Essentially, it's kind of a mix between a condo and a town.

[1:02:06] So under a unit law subdivision, the unit laws would exist inside of parent laws and the parent law would be subject to zoning and dimensional requirements and things of that nature.

[1:02:23] But the individual unit laws would be so separating.

[1:02:26] And one thing, an example of what that might look like, might be a duplex.

[1:02:33] And so you could unit law subdivide the duplex by basically assuming it's a standard duplex.

[1:02:41] That was sent to the middle and two individual unit law units on both sides.

[1:02:45] You would split that in the middle and the owners would own the duplex and the land under the duplex and then ownership in common for the remainder common area of the parent law.

[1:02:56] So, um, it's a little bit funky. It's essentially the same thing as a condo, but it will allow that option in more

[1:03:06] um, less of a lot for patients and creations.

[1:03:13] This is to just have a stream. I believe those states attend. Yes.

[1:03:19] Anybody from the audience have any comments? Do we have any choice? Or is that dictated or mandated by the state?

[1:03:26] This updating the code to include unit loss of division was a state law that passed.

[1:03:34] So our zoning is required to be an alignment with that state law.

[1:03:37] Any

[1:03:43] other questions, comments?

[1:03:45] Do you think it's something that will?

[1:03:49] And I think that it will just provide a new ownership option.

[1:03:54] We don't regularly buy ownership types in the corner.

[1:03:57] So a condo is on a lot, same as a single family home, because the parent lots still have to conform to all of the regulations that are already, you know, conventional requirements and, you know, critical area requirements, all of those things.

[1:04:12] I don't, I don't foresee it mean any greater issue than that condo would be.

[1:04:17] There

[1:04:24] are a number of other questions from the audience.

[1:04:29] Well, you know, I don't think we have a choice.

[1:04:32] Of course, when you do something like that,

[1:04:34] we may even have more cars parked on the street,

[1:04:37] but I guess there's nothing we can do about that.

[1:04:40] So when all the other things come together,

[1:04:45] regarding a lot of sizes and the setbacks, et cetera,

[1:04:49] that usually helps mitigate some.

[1:04:51] And when building new buildings in the park for housing,

[1:04:56] we are required to certain amount of off-street parking.

[1:04:59] And so that environment would then be transferred

[1:05:01] to the parent lot so that parking

[1:05:03] would have to be contained off-street

[1:05:05] within the parent lots.

[1:05:06] And there would need to be common access agreements

[1:05:10] or easements between the owners that allow somebody

[1:05:13] parking in unit four to use the parking in the parent lots

[1:05:17] and have that illegal egressive access for that.

[1:05:22] So hopefully we may mitigate and do our initial

[1:05:25] parking requirements, which will still be applied on the parent.

[1:05:30] Thanks for coming. Thank you.

[1:05:32] Thank you for clarifying.

[1:05:33] Is there anything out there that I'm in the public hearing?

[1:05:39] Let's close the public hearing at 654.

[1:05:43] You should inquire directly.

[1:05:44] who's sort of Brian BRY-A-N and last name is Saundheim-S-O-N-D-H-E-I-M.

[1:05:52] Thank you.

[1:05:53] Hi.

[1:05:57] So Council, I'm going to have a motion for this ordinance.

[1:06:05] And that's ordinance number 1, 2, 7, 6.

[1:06:11] So, why don't you go through the amendments 1, 2, 7, 6?

[1:06:17] Is there a second?

[1:06:18] No, I'll start again.

[1:06:19] That's a person.

[1:06:20] Wall of Bank of motion.

[1:06:21] That's a person.

[1:06:22] Carlson, seconded.

[1:06:23] Is there any further discussion?

[1:06:26] All those in favor?

[1:06:27] I know.

[1:06:28] Thank you.

[1:06:30] Thank you.

[1:06:31] Motion carried.

[1:06:31] The next one is adding a new chapter, type of 15 of a municipal code for a port commercial

[1:06:39] zone.

[1:06:40] So the public

[1:06:46] hearing is open at 6.55.

[1:06:49] Asia for selection.

[1:06:51] Sure.

[1:06:52] This is a collaboration between the Temple Conner and the Port of Statute that has been going on for about two years.

[1:07:01] And it is related to updated commercial zoning for our own properties in the corner.

[1:07:08] So the poor owns a good section of commercial properties in the corner mostly to the north of town right before they're industrially own their industrial own lands start.

[1:07:20] And the core is currently in a process of reimagining what their space in the corner is going to look like and their exploring redevelopment options for their commercially owned lands in the corner.

[1:07:30] This commercial zoning is designed to both mirror the zoning that we have in our south

[1:07:37] of town, as well as allow them some flexible but reasonable options that will bridge the gap

[1:07:44] between our collective space and our industrial space.

[1:07:48] We designed this zoning to work in conjunction with the existing commercial zone,

[1:07:52] as well as the existing industrial zone.

[1:07:56] So I'm happy to take any individual question or any questions you have on the specifics of it

[1:08:01] But that's the intent of the chapter to allow the fort to be developed in a way that is most beneficial to the fort and the town

[1:08:07] We'll still find reasonable guidelines and make sure that it's consistent with our town and how we want to put it

[1:08:15] And we've been working on this. You've been working on this for like two meters. I think it's come before town

[1:08:20] It has. It has been pretty easy. It's like sound counsel and it went to the state for a 60 day review for a state returned no comments. And so it's coming before you again for final through ball, but you have previously done this.

[1:08:33] Oh, yes. And any commission has recommended a certain.

[1:08:37] The.

[1:08:41] Is there any question from the public?

[1:08:47] Public hearing is closed at 657.

[1:08:51] And then we get an emotion for motion to report it's number 1, 2, 7, 7, which is adding a new chapter to title 15.

[1:09:01] I am a municipal columnist.

[1:09:03] I have a sheet of book.

[1:09:06] 17.

[1:09:07] The first and chamber will be the motion.

[1:09:10] Capital person will be all excited.

[1:09:14] Any further discussion?

[1:09:16] All those in favor?

[1:09:17] I'm glad.

[1:09:18] Thank you very much. One day. One day? Okay. Did you want to further discuss it? No. Okay.

[1:09:30] All right.

[1:09:34] The last item on the agenda is the lodging tax codes and materials.

[1:09:43] Yes.

[1:09:44] Yes, kind of a joint effort between them and myself.

[1:09:49] We talked about lodging tax goals in criteria at the retreat this past summer.

[1:09:57] And so I put some proposed goals and funny priorities together.

[1:10:05] And that's what this consists of.

[1:10:08] The idea was to focus our efforts on those types of activities that we think will bet,

[1:10:16] or what you think will best benefit, what Connor, what we're trying to do, of course,

[1:10:23] is getting more intense in beds, but the other criteria is to create a welcoming environment

[1:10:28] to restore a lot of comfort, even if they don't come for a particular event, such as field

[1:10:33] of best work.

[1:10:34] So, we've been looking for the past couple of years, we've been revising the lodging

[1:10:43] packs, we'll get the presentations, which are scheduled for next week, then.

[1:10:47] Yeah.

[1:10:51] And so, it was hoping to get this out sooner, but this is, you know, we're at, we are,

[1:10:59] where we are at. The next document is the criteria. This was Jim's work trying to put it on it.

[1:11:11] Yeah, trying to put those goals that object is into something of a rubric that you can look at

[1:11:18] the presentation and say, meat, meat, meat, that doesn't mean. So that was the idea behind these criteria.

[1:11:25] So they're good.

[1:11:29] Questions, Council, comments, suggestions.

[1:11:35] Thanks for putting this together.

[1:11:38] It's really late to do that.

[1:11:40] Yeah, each year we're getting in it a little bit more refined, which really helps really narrow it down.

[1:11:47] I think we've got 16 applicants.

[1:11:50] It would correct 16.

[1:11:53] 16.

[1:11:54] Yeah.

[1:11:54] I probably missed it. I'm sure you said it that is this so this is available to the applicant.

[1:12:02] It will be rather than after tonight.

[1:12:04] If you pass it.

[1:12:06] Then all the applications get it tomorrow.

[1:12:09] We will be sending out the notes.

[1:12:12] They're to present and will include.

[1:12:15] Let's edit the passes.

[1:12:22] Absolutely.

[1:12:23] So we need pass this.

[1:12:25] We're changing or change it or.

[1:12:27] or rejected. Yeah, more rejected. It's codifying much more of what we discuss in the

[1:12:36] format than we can.

[1:12:40] I'm comparing it to trust me with my objectivity perhaps. So

[1:12:46] appreciate that. We need a motion to do this. Yes, it's some motion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[1:12:53] How may I push it?

[1:12:55] So, if I move to her, the lodging class advisory committee is foreign for now, who's

[1:13:00] a little bit slow?

[1:13:01] Second.

[1:13:03] Councilperson, Chair, Chamberlain, may the motion to answer, first of all, seconded, is that

[1:13:07] further discussion, Council?

[1:13:10] All of the favour?

[1:13:12] Aye.

[1:13:14] Any opposed?

[1:13:16] Any opposed?

[1:13:17] No.

[1:13:17] Any other new business?

[1:13:25] Mayor Roundtable's or any Mayor Roundtable's discussion?

[1:13:36] Okay, there's not an exact year's session tonight, so can I have a motion to adjourn at 7.02?

[1:13:47] And move, we adjourned.

[1:13:50] Bye.

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