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[0:16] CALL TO ORDER - 5:00 P.M.
[0:26] ROLL CALL
[0:36] PUBLIC COMMENTS ON CLOSED SESSION ITEMS
[0:43] CITY COUNCIL CLOSED SESSION
[1:32] SUCCESSOR AGENCY CLOSED SESSION
[2:04] RECESS
[1:52:45] RECONVENE - 7:00 P.M.
[1:53:55] PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
[1:54:37] ROLL CALL
[1:54:50] CLOSED SESSION REPORT
[1:56:35] Business in Action Monthly Spotlight for July 2026 – Precision Concepts
[2:01:20] PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS - 1 MINUTE
[2:14:50] CITY COUNCIL CONSENT CALENDAR
[2:16:00] Agreement for Equipment Purchase and Services with Moleaer for Lake Water Quality Equipment
[2:27:33] Amendment No. 1 to the Professional Services Agreement with TC Sports, Inc. for the Operation Services of Rosetta Canyon Sports Park
[2:37:42] SUCCESSOR AGENCY CONSENT CALENDAR
[2:38:28] Resolution Directing the City Clerk to Transmit Measure T to the City Attorney for Preparation of an Impartial Analysis for the November 3, 2026 General Municipal Election, Authorizing the Filing of a Written Argument in Favor of Measure T, and Authorizing Rebuttal Arguments
[2:42:59] PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS - 3 MINUTES
[3:17:23] CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
[3:17:44] CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
[3:18:12] CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS/REPORTS ON MEETINGS ATTENDED
[3:36:59] ADJOURNMENT

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[0:20] Good afternoon. Call the city council and successor agency to
[0:24] order. Madam Clerk. Would you please call the role? Councilmember
[0:28] Carol. Present. Council member Tisdell's absent, council member monos here,
[0:32] mayor pro time sheridan, Mayor McGee here. Madam Clerk. Do
[0:37] we have any request to speak on our closed session
[0:41] items? No, sir. Madam attorney, close session announcements. Thank you,
[0:46] Mayor. City Council has two items and the successor agency
[0:51] has one. So city council items, conference with real property
[0:54] negotiators pursuant to government code section 54956. 8. The parcel
[1:01] numbers are identified on the agenda. The negotiating parties are
[1:05] the city and GMB land LLC and Steve Galvez. The
[1:09] agency's negotiator or the city's negotiator is city manager Simpson
[1:14] under negotiation price in terms of payment. The second city
[1:18] council item is one potential case of anticipated litigation pursuant
[1:25] to the authority of government code section 549 56. 9D4
[1:29] initiation of litigation. The successor agency item is real property
[1:36] negotiations. Again, on the diamond stadium, the parcel numbers are
[1:40] identified on the agenda. The authority is government code section
[1:44] 54956. 8 agency negotiators are executive director Simpson executive director
[1:52] Buckley and myself parties are the successor agency, the storm
[1:58] in Golden State concessions and catering under negotiation price in
[2:03] terms of payment. Very good. Have you no other business
[2:07] in front of us? We will recess into closed session
[2:10] and then reconvene here at seven o'clock.
[1:53:49] Good evening ladies and gentlemen, call the city of Lake
[1:53:52] Osednor and their successor agency to order. We all please
[1:53:56] rise and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.
[1:54:39] Madam Clerk, would you please call the role. Councilmember Carroll.
[1:54:42] President. Council member Tizdell Sapson, Councilmember Monos. Here. Mayor approached
[1:54:46] him, Sheridan. Here. Mayor Mickey. Here. That takes us to
[1:54:51] closed session report, Madam Attorney. Thank you, Mayor. The city
[1:54:57] council met at five o'clock to discuss two items in
[1:55:01] closed session. The first conference with real property negotiator pursuant
[1:55:06] to government code section 54956. 8. The agency negotiator, city
[1:55:13] manager Simpson, the negotiating parties, the city of Lake Elsinor,
[1:55:17] and the property owners GMB land LLC and Steve Galvez
[1:55:22] under negotiation price in terms of payment. There's no reportable
[1:55:26] action on that item this evening. Our second item conference
[1:55:30] with legal counsel concerning one potential case of anticipated litigation
[1:55:35] under the authority of government code section 54956. 9 paragraph
[1:55:40] D4 initiation of litigation. The city council provided the staff
[1:55:47] and city attorney to proceed with administrative remedies in connection
[1:55:51] with that case. The details will be available once action
[1:55:57] is commenced and that can be ascertained at City Hall.
[1:56:02] We do have one item of successor agency closed session.
[1:56:07] It is identified on the agenda under item 5. 1.
[1:56:12] We did not have time to get to that item
[1:56:14] yet. We are going to adjourn the city council meeting
[1:56:18] at the end this evening and continue the successor agency
[1:56:24] to close session. That announcement was made at five o'clock
[1:56:28] and the report will come at the conclusion of the
[1:56:30] successor agency closed session. That concludes my report. Thank you
[1:56:33] very much, Madam Attorney. That takes us to presentations and
[1:56:37] ceremonials. And I would like to invite our economic development
[1:56:41] director, Ms. Jean Gonzalez, up to the podium, and I
[1:56:44] will join her for the announcement of our business in
[1:56:47] action monthly spotlight. Thank you, Mayor.
[1:56:57] Well, thank you everybody for coming out tonight for our
[1:56:59] business and action spotlight. It's great to have you all
[1:57:01] here and attendance. We have a lot of exciting presentations
[1:57:08] to share tonight. And if I can, please ask Ms.
[1:57:10] Steyened to please join us up here with the mayor.
[1:57:13] So our business in action spotlight is a free monthly
[1:57:16] business awards recognition for our businesses here in Lake Elsinor
[1:57:21] that go above in the beyond the cold business each
[1:57:24] and every single day. And for the month of July,
[1:57:27] we're here to honor precision. Concepts and a little bit
[1:57:31] about precision concepts is that they have been a business
[1:57:34] here since 1994. They have grown from a very small
[1:57:38] locally owned shop into one of the most respected names
[1:57:43] and off - road motorcycle racing. Guys, that's who we
[1:57:47] are. You can clap for that. They specialize in championship
[1:57:55] winning motorcycles with their world - class suspension. The companies
[1:57:59] earned a reputation and innovation, precision and exceptional craftsmanship. They're
[1:58:05] expertly engineered suspension systems and race prepared motorcycles have helped
[1:58:11] writers capture more than 50 championships. From Score Baja competitions.
[1:58:17] Have you ever seen that? It's wild, you guys. To
[1:58:19] victories at Lake Elsinor's very own Grand Prix. Thank you.
[1:58:26] I like you. Decision concept and bodies, Lake Elsinor's identity
[1:58:30] as a premier extreme sport destination by supporting professional racers,
[1:58:36] recreational writers, and major off - road events. This company
[1:58:40] strengthens our communities'reputation as a hub for motocross and off
[1:58:45] - road racing while also attracting writers, enthusiasts from across
[1:58:49] the nation. Concepts precision concepts exemplifies our entrepreneurial spirit celebrated
[1:58:56] through our business and action program, and we congratulate precision
[1:59:00] concepts on its well - deserved recognition. And as part
[1:59:03] of the recognition, we offer them a free marketing video
[1:59:07] promoting our Lake Elsemar business. So with that, before we
[1:59:10] jump over to Ms. Diane Bell in the mayor, please
[1:59:13] roll the video. In the action sports, capital of the
[1:59:16] world like Elsinor, persisting content racing keeps the adrenaline a
[1:59:20] lot. Since 1994, this local powerhouse has been tuning and
[1:59:24] transforming off - road motorcycles with expert suspension upgrades, murder
[1:59:28] builds, and full bike crib. From weekend warriors hitting local
[1:59:31] trails to champion racers, Johneding Bajan Beyond. Resisting concept deliver
[1:59:36] the confidence, control, and performance writers need to push their
[1:59:39] limits. Right here at Lake Elsin. Visit decisioncons of racing.
[1:59:43] com today. On behalf of the city council, like to
[1:59:52] give this to you. And also like to remind everyone
[1:59:55] that no one wins a championship by themselves. And these
[1:59:59] are the type of folks that do something behind the
[2:00:02] scenes that you never see, and you never know. But
[2:00:05] that writer knows why he won. Do you want to
[2:00:09] say anything? Sure. She brought up the Lake Elsin or
[2:00:13] Grand Prix, just got a brag on my son, because
[2:00:16] he won the, oh gosh, Harvey Mushman race four times.
[2:00:30] So I'm going to take a photo? We got two
[2:00:35] of them.
[2:01:11] Our fire chief has been called away, so we are
[2:01:14] going to defer our second quarter statistical update until our
[2:01:18] next meeting. And we will move now to public comments
[2:01:22] on non - agendaized items one minute in length. Madam
[2:01:27] Clerk, do we have any requests to speak? Yes, I
[2:01:32] have several this evening. First is Nicole Daly. Naaman City
[2:01:40] of Residence, please. Push to talk. Okay. Nicole Daly, like
[2:01:48] LSMO resident. Good evening, Mayor McGee, members of the city
[2:01:51] council, staff and residents. As mentioned, my name is Nicole
[2:01:55] Daly of Ben A Lake Elsar resident for 37 years.
[2:01:58] And tonight I'm speaking on behalf of the Elsiedner Heights
[2:02:01] project team regarding recent concerns about the data center use
[2:02:04] referenced in our notice of preparation. So 2022, our team
[2:02:09] has worked closely with the city to identify a project
[2:02:11] that aligns with its goals and supports much needed infrastructure
[2:02:15] improvements in this part of the city. Choosing the right
[2:02:18] project for this site remains our top priority. To be
[2:02:21] clear, no data center project has been proposed. Rather, the
[2:02:26] potential data set our use was included in our notice
[2:02:28] as a secondary option to typical industrial uses. We did
[2:02:33] this to disclose it openly and early so that potential
[2:02:36] impacts could be looked at as part of our EIR
[2:02:39] process. We understand the community's concerns and they are exactly
[2:02:43] the issues that the environmental review process is designed to
[2:02:47] evaluate before specific project is considered. We are still in
[2:02:51] the early stages and expect the draft EIR to be
[2:02:54] released in the coming months. As our proposal takes shapes,
[2:02:58] we do intend to have community outreach and provide opportunities
[2:03:02] for feedback on whatever our project entails. And we will
[2:03:05] be getting feedback from the community at that time. In
[2:03:08] the meantime, I am available to answer any questions and
[2:03:11] happy to stick around. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Daly.
[2:03:15] Madam Clerk, next speaker. Our next speaker is Kimberly Davidson.
[2:03:19] Davidson. Good evening, Mayor McGee, members of City Council and
[2:03:26] City staff. My name is Kimberly Davidson. I'm a resident
[2:03:30] of Marietta. However, I am the president and CEO of
[2:03:33] the Lake Elsinor Valley Chamber of Commerce. And I am
[2:03:36] here to speak on behalf of Vectra and the Elsinor
[2:03:39] Heights project. Vectra has been a strong partner to the
[2:03:42] chamber and our community meeting with us regularly over the
[2:03:46] past four years. To better understand like Elsinor's needs and
[2:03:50] priorities. Our discussions have focused on community benefits, infrastructure, economic
[2:03:55] development, and the long - term welfare of our city.
[2:03:57] The project is still in the environmental review and evaluation
[2:04:01] phase with specialist carefully assessing its feasibility and appropriateness for
[2:04:07] Lake Elsinor. No approvals are being rushed. At the appropriate
[2:04:12] time, we look forward to helping share accurate information and
[2:04:16] ensuring that residents have opportunities to ask questions and provide
[2:04:19] input. Based on our experience with the development team, we
[2:04:23] are confident that they will engage openly and in good
[2:04:26] faith with the city of Lake Elsinor residents. Thank you.
[2:04:29] Thank you, Ms. Davidson. Next speaker, please. Our next speaker
[2:04:33] is Gianna Maskio. Hello, my name
[2:04:43] is Gianna Mastio, and I'm a proud citizen of Lake
[2:04:47] Elsanor. Thank you for allowing me to speak today, counsel.
[2:04:51] I'm up here today to discuss the proposed plan to
[2:04:53] build a data center in our city, also known as
[2:04:56] the Lake Elsinor Heights Industrial Project. I want to showcase
[2:05:00] my deep disapproval of this happening in our community. According
[2:05:03] to UC Riverside, data centers create substantial health issues from
[2:05:07] SMOG continually in waste fresh water and overpower electricity grids
[2:05:11] causing averages and higher bills for you and me. This
[2:05:15] would be a devastation to our lovely city. Say no
[2:05:18] to this proposal and do not build the data center
[2:05:20] in Lake Ossinor. Thank you. Thank you.
[2:05:32] Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is RSLI Preciato.
[2:05:50] Hello, City Council. My name is Araceli Preciado. I actually
[2:05:54] did encounter and submit a submittal from a change. org
[2:05:58] petition that I had the community sign. We are totally
[2:06:03] against the data center in the city of Lake Osednor.
[2:06:06] You guys have come so far with how far we've
[2:06:09] gotten with what we've done with the leak. I know
[2:06:12] that you recently got an 8 million dollar grant to
[2:06:16] fix the water situation. I think that opening up a
[2:06:21] data center, even though it's perplexition number two on the
[2:06:24] plan. I think it's the wrong way to go. The
[2:06:28] Lake City of Lake Ilsinor residents do not deserve to
[2:06:32] be treated that way. It's an environmental hazard. Um. Pardon
[2:06:38] me. Um, there's water issues. We all know that the
[2:06:43] data centers do use up a lot of water. It's
[2:06:46] an environmental issue. I didn't, I don't know if you
[2:06:48] guys know, but there is actually a bald eagle over
[2:06:51] on the coyote, um, cove area. That habitates that area.
[2:06:56] So what are we going to do to our environment
[2:06:59] if we open up a data center. We know that
[2:07:02] there are lots of environmental issues. I think the city
[2:07:06] of Lake Olsenor and their motto is dream extreme. And
[2:07:10] this is just not with that program. Thank you, Arasali.
[2:07:14] Thank you. Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Kendall
[2:07:23] and Slace.
[2:07:34] Hi, good evening. My name is Candid Slace. You think
[2:07:38] everybody here at the council, especially Bob McGee, our mayor.
[2:07:41] I love this town. I'm a business. I own a
[2:07:44] business town. I try to help my fellow citizens and
[2:07:47] their animals. Some of you may not know the creek
[2:07:49] that flows from tough channel under grand avenue and through
[2:07:52] my property, this creek ultimately connects with McVicker channel that
[2:07:56] feeds water into Lake Yellsner. That's of course, if we
[2:07:59] get rain. I mean, seriously. I consider myself somewhat of
[2:08:02] a caretaker of that lake by keeping that creak of
[2:08:05] mom my property free of debris. This I do so
[2:08:08] that every drop of water can flow into that lake
[2:08:10] because we all know that water is precious resource and
[2:08:14] our lake needs every drop of water we can get.
[2:08:16] That lake saved our town during the holy fire and
[2:08:19] the airport fire. And each and every one of us
[2:08:23] to conserve water that precious lake as best as we
[2:08:26] can, which brings me here today. I don't normally come
[2:08:28] to these meetings mostly because of my help. But when
[2:08:30] I do it, it's because I need to speak up
[2:08:32] about something that I stand firm with conviction. This data
[2:08:36] center. Will consume ginormous amounts of water to power them.
[2:08:42] Go ahead and finish. Can I finish? Yes. Thank you.
[2:08:48] For those of you in the audience, we have one
[2:08:50] minute speaking at the very beginning. If you have something
[2:08:52] brief to share. And then three minutes at the end.
[2:08:56] Please continue. I would just like to just finish this
[2:08:58] and they'll be done. Our city managers and planners and
[2:09:01] council members have a responsibility to ensure that our precious
[2:09:04] lake is protected. I mean, after all, we spent millions
[2:09:06] of dollars on nanobubblers launch point and wealth stocking our
[2:09:09] fish. Why it's our dream extreme motto. Our city is
[2:09:13] a jigsaw puzzle with proper planning. I just questioned some
[2:09:16] of this. If an else and official is that is
[2:09:19] responsible for issuing a conditional use or permit or license,
[2:09:22] it doesn't matter if it's in the future now or
[2:09:24] whatever. Your guys'name will go into infamy. Okay. This thing
[2:09:29] will consume. Your responsible. You're responsible. So am I. Water.
[2:09:34] I have to protect. That goes down through my property.
[2:09:37] It's hard for me to do that. Okay. It is.
[2:09:41] And we all know that we need this. This is
[2:09:44] the largest natural lake here in California. I mean, waterfowl
[2:09:48] uses this as migration. If we allow this business to
[2:09:51] come and put a data center in here, for what.
[2:09:55] For what? Is it going to benefit us? Is it
[2:09:57] going to benefit your children? I heard somebody on the
[2:09:59] phone. You were on the phone with your children. Your
[2:10:03] children's children. We need to protect it. We need to
[2:10:07] protect it. And you guys are responsible. And so am
[2:10:11] I. I'm responsible because I let water flow through. I've
[2:10:16] spent literally tens of thousands of dollars to allow water
[2:10:19] to flow through to connect to a channel. For you
[2:10:22] guys to get the water free. I paid for that.
[2:10:25] You guys need to make sure that this multimillion dollar
[2:10:29] company or whoever does not sip the water not only
[2:10:32] for our town, wildemar. Canyon lake. South Corona, parts of
[2:10:40] minifi and Marietta. Thank you.
[2:10:52] Nick speaker, Madam Clerk. Our next speaker is Ace Vallejos.
[2:11:04] What do you mean, explodes? I'm here to talk about
[2:11:06] the mega warehouses. We were there. I think it's my
[2:11:09] third, fourth meeting I've been to. Still don't have a
[2:11:12] lot of questions answered. First of all, two large mega
[2:11:16] warehouses off of Baker Street. They're talking about, you know,
[2:11:20] they're not going to go down to Nichols Lake Street
[2:11:23] to go up north. And then they're going to go
[2:11:26] the other way. And then the other one is the
[2:11:28] zoning. They want to change the zoning of the property
[2:11:30] at the state. They said at the city's request. So
[2:11:34] the point is, is that, you know, the rezoning, the
[2:11:38] property is M2 and should be, if it's light manufacturing,
[2:11:41] I don't think anybody would have a problem with that.
[2:11:43] The mega warehouses of 700, 000 square feet and a
[2:11:46] million square feet is ridiculous. You know, we don't even
[2:11:49] know what's going in there. It could be, uh, ice
[2:11:53] center, could be a, I don't know, a prison. Could
[2:11:58] it be, uh, what else could it be. We don't
[2:12:01] know because they're not going to, they don't know. And
[2:12:03] then you take a look at the nickel's offering or
[2:12:06] on ramp, whatever you want to call it. RCTC hasn't
[2:12:08] even started to look at that. So the questions that
[2:12:11] need to be answered. And if the city is interested
[2:12:14] in changing the zoning, they should let somebody know about
[2:12:16] it. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Vallejo. Next speaker, please.
[2:12:25] Our next speaker is Emery. I'm sorry. MRE Doherty.
[2:12:40] Hi, my name is Emry. Uh, I'm here to make
[2:12:42] a quick comment about the proposed data center construction. Um,
[2:12:45] I think approving this would be a grave mistake. I
[2:12:48] am asking the city councillor to please consider a data
[2:12:52] center moratorium as other local cities like Paris have enacted
[2:12:58] in response to what comes with the construction of these
[2:13:01] data centers. As we've seen across the country, people's water
[2:13:05] supply is getting poisoned at rare forms of cancer emerging
[2:13:08] in various states like Ohio, Oregon, uh, South Carolina. I
[2:13:14] think this would be a grave mistake to approve. And
[2:13:19] so please consider that. Thank you. Thank you, Emily.
[2:13:30] Next speaker, please. Last speaker for one minute comment says
[2:13:33] Kim Cousins.
[2:13:44] Good evening. My name's Kim Cousins and I'm a resident
[2:13:46] of Lake Elsner for 36 years in our retiree. So
[2:13:50] good evening. Mayor McGee Council member City Council staff and
[2:13:55] our neighbors. Uh, based on the experience over the last
[2:13:58] four years working with Vectra has been an excellent developer
[2:14:01] who has engaged the city of Lake Gelsnor and the
[2:14:04] city council economic development subcommittee along with the city of
[2:14:08] Lake Alistair Management team and departments, including fire services, dialogue
[2:14:13] on appropriate use of their property. And has been very
[2:14:16] transparent and collaborative. Over those years with the plans that
[2:14:20] made multiple modifications to address not only the city of
[2:14:23] Lake Elsa requests, but also EVMWD and Riverside flood control.
[2:14:28] I am confident that vector's team will move forward in
[2:14:31] good faith. With the city of Lake Elsinor as they
[2:14:34] move through the development cycle over the next several months
[2:14:38] of not years. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr.
[2:14:40] President. Madam Clerk, no more speakers under that section? Correct.
[2:14:49] Very good then. We'll move now to our consent calendar.
[2:14:55] On our consent calendar. We have. Items 13. 1 through
[2:15:03] 1312. I would like to pull item 13. 5 for
[2:15:09] a staff presentation. And I believe the mayor Pro Tem
[2:15:12] wanted to pull item 13. 6. Now 13. 11. I'm
[2:15:17] sorry. 13. 11. Mr. Marlows? I'll make the motion on
[2:15:22] the remainder when it pops up. Very good. Any further
[2:15:26] discussion. Madam Clerk, did we have any speakers on any
[2:15:31] of those items? No, sir. Very good. Who have a
[2:15:35] motion from Councilman Romanos, a second from council member Carroll.
[2:15:40] Hearing no further discussion. Please record your vote.
[2:15:57] The items pass unanimously. That'll take us to item 13.
[2:16:02] 5. Requesting a staff presentation from Adam Gafari.
[2:16:15] Mr. Mayor, council members, Adam Goffyrati, assistant director of Lake
[2:16:19] and Community Operations tonight before you is an approval for
[2:16:23] water quality equipment for the lake. Um, and I'm going
[2:16:26] to run through a short presentation. If you have any
[2:16:28] questions at the end, I'll be able to answer them
[2:16:30] for you. Thank you very much, sir. So if you
[2:16:33] remember back in 2023, uh, city council approved our first
[2:16:37] lake management plan. And since then, we've been working through
[2:16:40] that plan. And from the beginning, this plan is a
[2:16:43] roadmap. We, every step of the way doing a little
[2:16:47] thing for the lake and seeing how the lake responds,
[2:16:50] um, so far we've done nano bubble pilot projects. We've
[2:16:54] done algeside treatments. Foss lock and then also working on
[2:16:57] our shoreline maintenance. Um, the next slide I'm going to
[2:17:00] review kind of what we've done with nano bubbles. So
[2:17:05] the first phase, which was installed in February of 2024,
[2:17:09] um, injects 500 pounds of oxygen in the lake each
[2:17:12] day. And the importance of this oxygen into the lake
[2:17:15] is it prevents the reloading of nutrients into the lake.
[2:17:19] And so if we have oxygen at the bottom of
[2:17:21] the lake, it kind of caps those nutrients. And when
[2:17:24] I talk about nutrients, it's phosphorus and nitrogen. And it's
[2:17:27] this phosphorus and nitrogen is what feeds the algae. So
[2:17:30] if we can cap that bottom will prevent that cycle
[2:17:33] of algae blooms every year. Our second phase, which was
[2:17:36] installed in October of 2024, included two barges. Now these
[2:17:42] second and third barges were much larger than our pilot.
[2:17:44] They injected each 2, 500 pounds of oxygen. So as
[2:17:48] of today, we're injecting about 5, 500 pounds of oxygen
[2:17:52] each day. Tonight, with your approval, we'll be installing two
[2:17:57] more barges. And the plan is to upgrade the pilot
[2:18:01] barge. So the pilot barge, as you remember, is 500
[2:18:04] pounds per day. We're going to upgrade that one to
[2:18:07] 5, 000 pounds per day. In addition to that, we'll
[2:18:11] also have the capabilities to inject ozone. Ozone is an
[2:18:14] amazing sanitizer and it'll help us fight those algae blooms.
[2:18:18] In addition, we'll do another barge. So tonight with this
[2:18:22] approval, it's 10, 000 more pounds per day in the
[2:18:25] lake. With total one, when we're done this year, we'll
[2:18:29] be injecting 15, 000 pounds of oxygen in the lake
[2:18:32] every day. Why 15, 000? Well, that's what the scientists
[2:18:35] have told us. We've done studies with a sediment core.
[2:18:39] We take core samples of the sediment in the lake,
[2:18:42] um, and five different locations and run studies. And the
[2:18:45] studies have shown that each day our sediment in the
[2:18:48] lake needs 15, 000 pounds of oxygen. So we're hitting
[2:18:51] that goal to night. We have moled here tonight, our
[2:18:56] vendor, um, great partner with the city, um, bail to
[2:19:00] answer some more questions for you tonight. But the, the
[2:19:03] schedule right now with your approval tonight will be able
[2:19:06] to meet a schedule with delivery in November and installation
[2:19:10] in this December. So by the end of this year,
[2:19:12] we'll be up to 15, 000 pounds of oxygen. Why
[2:19:17] Mollier, why an anable technology? Well, we started with that
[2:19:20] pilot. And initially when we installed that pilot, we see,
[2:19:23] we saw immediate increases and dissolved oxygen and also ORP.
[2:19:28] ORP is a measure of how much a body of
[2:19:32] water can clean itself. And so we have independent testing
[2:19:35] done that shows five different data sets that the nanobubble
[2:19:40] project is working the way it was supposed to. And
[2:19:42] that's why we're taking that next step and increasing our
[2:19:45] nanobubble project. In addition to that, um, LEAMS, which is
[2:19:51] our legacy system, our aeration system. Every year we calculate
[2:19:55] how that system is doing. This last year in 2025,
[2:19:59] we had the most nitrogen offsets in phosphorus offsets since
[2:20:03] that system was installed. So with our independent study and
[2:20:07] the LEAM study, it's proving that the nanobubble technology is
[2:20:11] working in our lake. I'm going to call up Chris
[2:20:16] Steffen, the global director of Molier to go over this
[2:20:18] next slide and talk about what Molier is doing and
[2:20:21] how they're a partner with this city. Thank you, Adam.
[2:20:30] Mayor, good to see you, counsel. Always good to see
[2:20:32] you. City manager Simpson. Thank you. Uh, honored to be
[2:20:37] here again and to have been a part of this,
[2:20:40] uh, long phased approach in your lake management plan. I
[2:20:44] just want to commend the council city manager and mayor
[2:20:49] how well you've executed on this plan and how well
[2:20:52] Adam and the team of executed on this plan, uh,
[2:20:55] to be able to put together a really well -
[2:20:58] rounded treatment, uh, for the lake. And then the monitoring
[2:21:02] that's been included on it to be able to bring
[2:21:04] the data back to make informed decisions, uh, Adam is
[2:21:08] presented some really good information there. Really simple graph that,
[2:21:11] that, uh, highlight here is just looking at prior to
[2:21:16] the nanomontable oxygenation systems being added to the lake for
[2:21:19] the years prior. You can see there was very little
[2:21:22] oxygen being measured in the center of the lake and
[2:21:25] the deepest part of the lake. And this is in
[2:21:27] a sand or a probe that's down near the bottom
[2:21:31] of the water body. Actually quite a way. It's from
[2:21:35] the near treatment of the nano bubble systems. Uh, but
[2:21:38] you can see prior to the nano bottles being introduced
[2:21:41] in October of 24. Very little dissolved oxygen down at
[2:21:45] the bottom of the lake causing those nutrients to come
[2:21:47] out of the sediments and causing these harmful algae blooms
[2:21:51] that had closed the lakes, uh, closed the lake previously.
[2:21:54] Since the nano bottle installation there in the phased approach
[2:21:57] that you guys have taken the folks have taken here
[2:22:00] on your team, uh, you can see just the consistent
[2:22:02] improvement in the dissolved oxygen levels away from the treatment
[2:22:07] systems in the center of the lake in the deepest
[2:22:09] part of the lake where it's most important where those
[2:22:12] nutrients actually typically settled because it's a bowl and they
[2:22:17] settle into that area. Great data has been captured here
[2:22:21] to, uh, really derive, uh, your plan and, uh, again,
[2:22:25] just how well your team is executed on it. You're
[2:22:28] not alone in this. Over half of the lakes in
[2:22:31] the United States are impaired. Half. Of the natural water
[2:22:36] bodies in this country are impaired. Yet you guys aren't
[2:22:40] alone in taking this challenge on and improving your lake
[2:22:44] and bringing the benefits to your community. There's a lake
[2:22:47] about 50 miles from here. Uh, there are cults of
[2:22:50] their board voted to approve three systems similar to the
[2:22:53] ones floating on the lake right now to be installed
[2:22:56] in April. Florida, we have a number of systems being
[2:22:59] installed in Florida right now. Georgia, there's a project that's
[2:23:04] being proposed and set for a decision in September to
[2:23:08] do a very large river in Georgia. Minnesota, Wisconsin, uh,
[2:23:14] a number of states in the Northeast have all committed
[2:23:17] to putting projects in. And actually, they've looked at what
[2:23:21] the success you've had as being innovators in this. Moliers,
[2:23:25] you know, is a Los Angeles - based company. We're
[2:23:27] about 100 people, 15 PhDs on staff. We're environmental engineering
[2:23:32] company at heart. We just happen to have invented a
[2:23:36] technology to be able to utilize oxygen and put it
[2:23:40] into water bodies. Right now we have over 10, 000
[2:23:44] installations in 55 countries around the world. And, uh, one
[2:23:48] of those is here at Lake Elsinor. We couldn't be
[2:23:51] more proud to be your partner and to see the
[2:23:53] success you've had with your lake restoration plan and to
[2:23:56] play a foundational piece to that. So I'm here to
[2:23:59] say thank you for your support, for your partnership. And
[2:24:03] it's been really truly an honor to work along with
[2:24:05] your staff and with you to execute on these plans
[2:24:08] that have brought such a great improvement to the lake.
[2:24:12] I look forward to your consideration on this agenda item
[2:24:15] tonight. But thank you again for the opportunity to work
[2:24:18] with you. Thank you, sir. And I think one of
[2:24:25] the most important things I want to talk about tonight
[2:24:28] is, uh, this has all been funded by federal appropriations
[2:24:32] that city staff working with our city manager, um, and
[2:24:36] our mayor and our council worked really hard with congressman
[2:24:38] Calvert's office, um, and so this is the first step
[2:24:41] in that eight million dollars that we got. And we're,
[2:24:43] we're not stopping there. We're continuing work with the original
[2:24:46] partners to look at more grants so that we can
[2:24:49] take the burden off the city. Um, my last slide
[2:24:53] tonight, uh, they always say a picture is worth a
[2:24:57] thousand words. So, uh, here's from 2015 all the way
[2:25:01] until December of 2025. You can see the drastic change
[2:25:05] in color in Lake Olsinor. Still a lot of work
[2:25:08] to be done, but we're very proud of the work
[2:25:09] we've done to today. And we're excited to see the
[2:25:13] lake next year when we got 15, 000 pounds of
[2:25:15] oxygen. Thank you. Any questions from
[2:25:25] my colleagues. Go first. Oh, just wanted to just step
[2:25:32] out and say, uh, thanks to staff for Adam, uh,
[2:25:36] you really took up the lead on this one. Genuinely
[2:25:39] appreciate that. I also want to go ahead and, um,
[2:25:42] you know, appreciate our city manager, Jason Simpson, uh, who
[2:25:47] backed this for a number of years, uh, we worked
[2:25:52] on this for far longer than most people recognize, uh,
[2:25:56] we got help from Senator Diane Feinstein before she died.
[2:26:02] We had help from Alex Padilla, Kim Calvert. There's been
[2:26:07] a number of other elected fish. This council approved a
[2:26:10] 1. 5 million dollar matching funds grant in order to
[2:26:13] get the first one just as a test pilot project
[2:26:15] that was totally out. Like we didn't know how it
[2:26:18] was going to work out quite frankly. We had some
[2:26:20] good ideas. We had some feelings, but we didn't know
[2:26:22] exactly how it was going to work out. And, um,
[2:26:24] I also want to go ahead and thank the residents,
[2:26:27] uh, for having faith in us to actually try something
[2:26:30] out and take a chance and take a risk. Because
[2:26:32] it could have very well not worked out. And we're
[2:26:34] seeing the results now. It's been fantastic. We went from
[2:26:38] an impaired body of lake that the California state of
[2:26:40] California said we could not allow bodies to touch to
[2:26:45] almost three consecutive years now where there's where there's almost
[2:26:48] undetectable levels of toxins in the lake, which is absolutely
[2:26:51] astonishing. It's a total turnaround. It's something that nobody said
[2:26:54] could happen. And, uh, so, uh, very proud of all
[2:26:58] of that. So thank you. And congratulations to everybody involved.
[2:27:08] Okay. Item 13. 5. I'll entertain a motion. You have
[2:27:16] a motion from the mayor protem. Second from Council Member
[2:27:19] Manos. Harry, no further discussion. Please record your vote. The
[2:27:28] item passes unanimously. Thank you gentlemen.
[2:27:39] That takes us now to item 13. 11. Mr. Mayor
[2:27:44] Pro Tem, what is your pleasure? Uh, staff report, please.
[2:27:47] Thank you, Bo. Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh,
[2:27:51] Mayor Portem and council and city manager leadership. Thank you
[2:27:54] so much. My name is Bo Davis. I'm with the
[2:27:56] recreation department. And I'm excited here to present here about
[2:28:00] the successes of TC Sports Inc. and Rosetta Canyon Sports
[2:28:03] Park. And with those successes, we are before you asking
[2:28:07] for an additional 37, 600 dollars on the contract to
[2:28:11] cover the field maintenance budget increases. This increases primarily driven
[2:28:16] through the increased demand of the usage of that park.
[2:28:20] Uh, what the motion does not change as any of
[2:28:22] the management agreement or the usage or the allocation of
[2:28:26] the purpose of the mission of it. It just simply
[2:28:28] is increasing this line item. And just a little bit
[2:28:31] of history, right? We started this partnership with TC Sports
[2:28:34] Inc. in 2018 within our original contract renewed in 2024.
[2:28:39] And here in 2026, we're just, um, because the successes,
[2:28:42] we're looking at increased that line item and on the
[2:28:45] agreement, um, to cover the increased costs, uh, TC sports
[2:28:49] is a franchisee of trip crown sports. So they host
[2:28:51] triple crown tournaments here as well as numerous others. Uh,
[2:28:54] there's a rather large tournament this last week across multiple,
[2:28:59] uh, complexes. And I'd be happy to announce if you
[2:29:02] haven't heard our 16 new team from Lake Elsinor actually
[2:29:05] took, uh, the championship. So congratulations to those Dukes. The
[2:29:09] West Coast Dukes, the 16U. They have extensive national relationships
[2:29:14] and contacts. That's how, uh, they're so valuable as a
[2:29:17] partner. Um, in this, in this operation of Rosita Canyon
[2:29:21] sports bar. So they operate all the scheduling. The tournament
[2:29:24] development, the concessions, field maintenance. It's all under just one
[2:29:27] agreement. Um, and they do still actively coordinate with the
[2:29:30] local youth leagues and residents in HOAs to provide access
[2:29:34] at that facility. We all know Rosetta Canyon sports park
[2:29:38] is an amazing park. It's one of the greatest parks
[2:29:40] in the nation. Um, because of everything you can do
[2:29:43] there. From dog parks to championship level, uh, tournaments softball,
[2:29:48] baseball is played at that facility. Um, flag football, uh,
[2:29:52] tackle football competitive soccer. Uh, and like I said on
[2:29:56] August 22nd, uh, there will be a movie there with
[2:29:59] the HOA. So the current agreement again, it's 250, 000
[2:30:02] dollars to manage it and to take care of other,
[2:30:05] uh, miscellaneous items around there, the daily operations. They have
[2:30:09] an individual there from 6 a. m. to 10 p.
[2:30:11] m. every single day. And the field maintenance budget is
[2:30:14] when the tournaments there, because it requires four additional people,
[2:30:18] at least to be there to turn those fields over
[2:30:20] between games. They'll play eight, nine games on a field.
[2:30:24] From, you know, they'll be there at six in the
[2:30:25] morning. Prepping fields getting ready for the day. And then
[2:30:28] till 12, one o'clock in the morning, turning those fields
[2:30:30] over for the next morning's games, um, so they'll manage
[2:30:34] day to day. They manage the concession. They manage the
[2:30:36] tournament schedulings. Um, and then of course market and coordinate
[2:30:40] with our economic development to encourage business, encourage tourism here
[2:30:44] in Lake Elsinorm. So the one line item in that
[2:30:47] agreement. That's one chance that goes from 62, 400 to
[2:30:51] 37, or excuse me, to 100, 000, which is an
[2:30:53] increase of 37, 600 dollars So that's the item specifically.
[2:30:59] And it's again, driven by that rising demand, uh, by
[2:31:02] the field. So the growing term at volume, uh, it's
[2:31:05] all the fields. It's, it's nearly every single weekend. That's
[2:31:08] not rained out. Um, there's more field techs, more work
[2:31:11] that's needed when you have that kind of workload. If
[2:31:14] you had visited Rosetta this past weekend, this past week,
[2:31:17] it was just hammered. And in between every game, you
[2:31:20] see a number of individuals out there turning those fields
[2:31:22] over. It still is the most cost effective way to
[2:31:25] manage that park, to have those hours and the demand
[2:31:28] on those individuals. Um, it's still the most cost effective
[2:31:31] way versus, um, training and hiring and scheduling city staff.
[2:31:36] And it's, um, it's also paid for by the growth
[2:31:38] of those tournaments. The more tournaments, more revenue for those
[2:31:42] bookings. And it helps offset those costs to operate that
[2:31:44] part. Um, you know, listening to previous council meetings and
[2:31:49] knowing the history of Rosetta, a main theme has been,
[2:31:53] the residents need to have access to this, right? Like
[2:31:54] we, we want to make sure we know the intention
[2:31:56] of this facility is for driving that economic benefit through
[2:32:00] sports tourism, which is one of the biggest industries and
[2:32:04] tourism across the nation. But we still make a way
[2:32:09] for Lake Elsinor residents to utilize that field. So, um,
[2:32:13] I reviewed some of the scheduling over the last couple
[2:32:16] of years and I see regular practices and usage by
[2:32:19] legs, which is our girl softball organization. Um, I know
[2:32:22] I've spoken personally to presidents of other organizations baseball, Lake
[2:32:26] Elsan are literally specifically. There's just not that request there.
[2:32:29] Um, they, they're currently satisfied with a number of fields
[2:32:32] they have. And so they've not reached out to our
[2:32:35] knowledge and speaking with past presidents. Um, for those that
[2:32:39] field space, they've not needed it quite yet. Um, the
[2:32:41] agreement does give priority to local athletes whenever fields are
[2:32:44] not being used for tournament and competitive play. A TC
[2:32:48] sports in there, the caveat that legs receives one free
[2:32:51] tournament every year. And I proud to present that legs
[2:32:55] hosted one at three day tournament in May of this
[2:32:57] year. Um, and again, on the August 22, the Canyon
[2:33:00] Hills HOA will be hosting a football soccer movie in
[2:33:03] the park of the football soccer field. And just really
[2:33:05] want to make sure people understand that a field, there's
[2:33:07] 6 a. m. to 10 p. m. every single day.
[2:33:09] And so if you feel like the fields are locked,
[2:33:11] it is, it's a little bit of a safety, right?
[2:33:13] We've had an e - bike issue. People, you know,
[2:33:15] vandalizing things, letting dogs run on these artificial turf fields.
[2:33:19] So they do oftentimes lock them, but they have a
[2:33:21] representative around every day and they've repeatedly told us, you
[2:33:24] just go find that person working on the field, say,
[2:33:27] I want to get on this field and open up,
[2:33:29] they'll open up that field for you to get in.
[2:33:30] Now, when a team reserves it in the evening, similar
[2:33:33] to Canyon Hills, McVicker, sucomatic, any one of our numerous
[2:33:37] sparks, that team does have the right to that field
[2:33:40] in that evening. So, uh, when the teens and it's
[2:33:42] not booked, there will be a field always open for
[2:33:45] the public. Um, again, we see the booking records that
[2:33:48] it's being used by resident and local leagues. And it's
[2:33:51] still, the field allocation follows the intendant economic benefit while
[2:33:55] still giving priority to local athletes. Right. So that's, that's
[2:34:00] where we're at. Again, it's a regional economic engine. It
[2:34:04] sees more than 265, 000 people. You're some years eclipsed
[2:34:07] 300 and close to 500, 000 visits a year. Um,
[2:34:10] it has enormously helped the corridor there on central. Um,
[2:34:15] and we looked at some numbers and it's a net
[2:34:18] five million dollar increase revenue from 2016 to today. We've
[2:34:23] seen the retail growth. I've, I've contributed my tax dollars
[2:34:26] there. Uh, through raising canes and Chick - fil -
[2:34:29] A and Jersey Mikes. And of course, the in and
[2:34:31] out. Hopefully you've all enjoyed that. Uh, and I truly,
[2:34:35] we believe that that's all been driven. I see many
[2:34:38] times, uh, young women and boys and sports apparel coming
[2:34:42] out of, um, establishments. And it is still a part
[2:34:45] of the city's 2040 vision. The dream extreme 2040 plan
[2:34:49] to have a destination driven by tourism. And economic development.
[2:34:54] So again, so the fiscal impact and recommendation is simply,
[2:34:57] you know, the total contract will be 350, 000, the
[2:35:00] 250 management, 100 for the field maintenance, which is that
[2:35:03] increase of the 37, 000. So we're asking that council
[2:35:07] approves this motion, this recommendation to this amendment on the
[2:35:11] increase in the city manageable execute it, um, we'll go
[2:35:15] from there. If you have any questions. I do. My
[2:35:18] initial concern was that the contract was signed in February
[2:35:21] of 2024 and the field maintenance costs were 62, 400.
[2:35:26] And now it's been increased by more than 50 percent
[2:35:32] Can you speak to why it costs the increase has
[2:35:36] gone up so much. And what I would consider a
[2:35:39] relatively short amount of time. Yeah, I honestly, it's because
[2:35:42] of the park that the city built and it's the
[2:35:44] good partnership of TC sports ink. Sports tourism continues to
[2:35:49] grow. We get routine requests by new travel leagues. New
[2:35:53] travel teams. So there's more and more people and young
[2:35:55] women playing. It's gotten recognition from other national organizations. So
[2:35:59] the higher demand. I believe when that first contract was
[2:36:03] written and when it was approved in 2024, the idea
[2:36:05] is to, you know, play it a little bit slow.
[2:36:08] Start the number low. Figure out how things the chips
[2:36:11] are going to fall. We don't want to over, overextend
[2:36:13] ourselves to an extent. And we want to see how
[2:36:15] things play out. Now that things have played out really
[2:36:18] well, we need to officially increase that line item to
[2:36:22] be able to cover those costs. And in the contract,
[2:36:25] it does state. Like if, if the reduction, um, field
[2:36:28] reservations, then the reduction in staff. So we don't pay
[2:36:31] for these staff. We don't reimburse TC sports ink for
[2:36:34] these staff unless there is a tournament unless there is,
[2:36:37] um, field maintenance crews out there. So is it fair
[2:36:40] to say that the increases a result of more tournaments
[2:36:42] coming in? Yes, sir. That is, that is, we don't,
[2:36:45] uh, we don't pay for field maintenance for just regular
[2:36:47] practices. That's all covered under the management agreement. So as
[2:36:50] tournaments go in, and we've seen an increase in longer
[2:36:53] tournaments during the weeks, weekday tournaments. So it's, it's not
[2:36:56] necessarily, weekends a year, right? So you think, okay, that's
[2:36:59] a set number. But as the summers and these holiday
[2:37:03] tournaments, they'll begin on Thursday and on Monday. People were
[2:37:06] taking days off of school and work to accommodate some
[2:37:08] of these tournaments as well. So we're seeing an increase
[2:37:10] that too. Okay. That was my concern, Mayor. Thank you.
[2:37:14] Very good. Any other comments from my colleagues. You're in
[2:37:17] on it. It's time to entertain a motion. I'm unable
[2:37:22] to call it electronically. If you can voice your motion
[2:37:25] in second. I'll make a motion that we adopt staff
[2:37:27] recommendation to accept the contract changes. I'll second that. We
[2:37:30] have a motion and a second. Any further discussion. Hearing
[2:37:34] none. All those in favor indicate by saying aye. Aye.
[2:37:37] Opposed. Hearing none, the item passes unanimously. That moves us
[2:37:43] now to our successor agency calendar items 14. 1 through
[2:37:49] 14. 5. Madam clerk, we have any request to speak
[2:37:54] on any of those items. No, sir. Very good. What's
[2:37:57] the pleasure of the agency. Move approval of the items.
[2:38:03] I will second that. We have a motion and a
[2:38:06] second. Any further discussion. Hearing none. Please record your vote.
[2:38:12] I guess we have the electronics back now.
[2:38:24] And the items pass unanimously. That takes us now to
[2:38:28] item number 16 business item 16. 1. Resolution directing the
[2:38:35] city clerk to transmit measure T to the city attorney
[2:38:39] for preparation of an impartial analysis of the November 3rd,
[2:38:45] 2026 general municipal election authorizing the filing of a written
[2:38:50] argument in favor of measure T and authorizing rebuttal arguments.
[2:38:57] Madam attorney, do we need to have a staff report.
[2:39:01] City clerk is prepared to provide one if you want
[2:39:04] it. I apologize, Madam Clerk. And before I, before I
[2:39:08] turn you loose, did we have any request to speak
[2:39:10] on the item. I do not. Very good. The floor
[2:39:14] is yours. Thank you. Good evening honorable mayor members of
[2:39:17] the city council. My name is Candace Alvarez. I'm the
[2:39:18] city clerk. Um, this item relates to measure T, which
[2:39:23] the city council previously placed on the November 3rd, 2026
[2:39:27] ballot to change the Office of City Treasurer from elective
[2:39:30] to a point of. Tonight's action is limited to the
[2:39:32] next election administration steps for the ballot measure. The measure
[2:39:37] is already on the ballot. So this item does not
[2:39:39] place the measure before voters again. Instead, uh, the requested
[2:39:43] action is to direct the city clerk to send measure
[2:39:45] T to the city attorney for preparation of the impartial
[2:39:48] analysis. Authorize the filing of an argument in favor of
[2:39:51] the measure and allow rebuttal arguments if an argument against
[2:39:54] the measure is submitted. Elections code section 9280 provides that
[2:40:00] the city attorney prepares the impartial analysis, which is limited
[2:40:03] to 500 words and printed before the arguments in the
[2:40:06] voter information materials. Under elections code section 9282, the city
[2:40:11] council or one or more members authorized by the city
[2:40:13] council may file a written argument for a city measure.
[2:40:18] And finally elections code section 9285 authorizes rebuttal arguments of
[2:40:23] up to 250 words. After city council direction has provided,
[2:40:28] staff will finalize the filings for the statutory deadlines. The
[2:40:34] impartial analysis and direct argument in favor are due to
[2:40:37] the county by August 17, 2026. And a rebuttal argument
[2:40:42] if one is needed would be due on August 27,
[2:40:45] 2026. Each filing is also subject to a public examination
[2:40:49] period under the elections code. The main policy choice tonight
[2:40:56] is whether the city council wants to file an argument
[2:40:58] in favor of the measure. And if so, whether you
[2:41:00] want the full council to sign it or just one
[2:41:03] or more designated council members. Authorized members may prepare and
[2:41:08] sign the argument and I may submit the argument without
[2:41:10] returning to city council for a second approval unless the
[2:41:13] council specifically wants that extra review step. Council action is
[2:41:18] permissive rather than mandatory with respect to filing a written
[2:41:20] argument. So if the council doesn't want to authorize an
[2:41:23] argument, no council sponsored argument will be filed. Although any
[2:41:27] individual voter, um, eligible to vote on the measure may
[2:41:31] still file an argument in his or her individual capacity
[2:41:34] subject to the elections code. Staff recommends adoption of the
[2:41:38] resolution directing the city clerk to transmit measure T to
[2:41:41] the city attorney for impartial analysis and authorizing the written
[2:41:44] argument and rebuttal arguments in favor of measure T if
[2:41:47] the council so desires. And if the council or one
[2:41:51] or more members wants to submit an argument, you will
[2:41:54] need to identify those members tonight. This concludes my report.
[2:42:00] I will go back to my seat so I can
[2:42:02] continue running the background. But I am available if you
[2:42:06] have any questions. Thank you very much, Madam Clerk. We
[2:42:08] will speak slowly and allow you plenty of time. We
[2:42:16] had no request to speak on this item. So we'll
[2:42:18] bring it up to the dais. What is the pleasure
[2:42:21] of my colleagues? Council Romanos. I'll be happy to submit.
[2:42:24] A written argument in favor of, uh, the measure. I'll
[2:42:28] make the motion to that effect. Any other comments from
[2:42:32] my colleagues. Hearing none, we have a motion. Do we
[2:42:37] have a second. Second. We have a second from the
[2:42:40] mayor pro - temp. Any further discussion. Hearing none. Please
[2:42:47] record your vote electronically. In the item passes unanimously. Thank
[2:42:56] you, council member monos. That takes us now to public
[2:43:01] comments on non - agendaized items three minutes in length.
[2:43:07] Madam Clerk, do we have any requests to speak? I
[2:43:12] do. First is, Deborah Gold. Ms. Gold, name in city
[2:43:22] of residence, please. Hello, uh, city council. My name is
[2:43:30] Debra Gold and I'm a resident here in Lake Elsinor.
[2:43:34] I am concerned with the Elsinor Heights Industrial Project. And
[2:43:38] I oppose any data centers in or around our town.
[2:43:42] These data centers use a ton of water up to
[2:43:44] 15 million gallons per day. 1. 8 billion annually per
[2:43:48] the environmental and energy study institute. Their energy use is
[2:43:53] extremely high and it increases electricity. Prices for households in
[2:43:59] areas that have data centers. Uh, they also use a
[2:44:02] lot of fossil fuels with their backup generators which pollutes
[2:44:05] the air. The noise is a huge concern. The noise
[2:44:09] can be up to 96 decibels. Hearing protection is required
[2:44:13] for workers who spend eight hours in 85 decibels. This
[2:44:17] is 11 decibels higher and we would be experiencing this
[2:44:20] noise 24 hours per day. The light pollution is another
[2:44:24] concern. It messes with people circadian rhythm. It throws wildlife
[2:44:28] habitat development and migration patterns off per the environmental health
[2:44:31] project. Heat from these servers running creates heat islands increasing
[2:44:37] the surrounding temperature by approximately 3. 6 degrees in towns
[2:44:42] near data centers. Lakeyesner is already hot enough as it
[2:44:45] is. Contamination of soil and waterways is another concern. You
[2:44:49] guys are doing this wonderful lake cleanup and we're all
[2:44:52] so happy about it. We'd like to keep our waterways
[2:44:55] clean. It's not going to add any jobs beyond the
[2:45:00] initial construction or very few jobs. Pardon me. So it's
[2:45:04] not really going to be bringing that into town. Lake
[2:45:06] Elsinor is primarily a residential city putting a data center
[2:45:10] here will not only devalue the homes that the people
[2:45:12] here have worked so hard to be able to buy.
[2:45:15] But it will pollute the environment in which we are
[2:45:16] raising our families. We and our children deserve a quiet
[2:45:19] and peaceful environment destroying all that with a data center
[2:45:22] is wrong and unacceptable. Please amend the city's zoning ordinance
[2:45:27] is to prohibit any data centers in or around Lake
[2:45:29] Ilsinor. Thank you for your time. Thank you Mr. Gold.
[2:45:43] Next speaker, Madam Clerk. Our next speaker is Eulene Greenwood.
[2:45:54] Hello. Um, I would like to thank the city council
[2:45:57] for this opportunity to address you tonight. I'm in Greenwood.
[2:46:03] I grew up and worked in Orange County. And when
[2:46:07] I retired, my husband and I decided to come and
[2:46:10] retire here. And Lake Elsinor. We really loved the small
[2:46:14] town rural feel here in Lake Elsinor. Um, like many
[2:46:19] before me, I'm here to talk to you about the
[2:46:22] Ilsinor Heights Industrial Center. Um, I first found out about
[2:46:26] the industrial center, the plans for the industrial center from
[2:46:30] an email. And so I immediately went to the internet
[2:46:34] and did an internet search and that search took me
[2:46:37] directly to the city's website during which I found the
[2:46:43] notice of preparation. Um, that was prepared by the city
[2:46:47] planning department. I, like many others tonight, um, would like
[2:46:57] to express my concerns about a data center about this
[2:47:03] project. I know that there are two options for residential
[2:47:09] buildings, warehouses and or a data center. Large warehouses and
[2:47:17] data centers. Throughout our hillsides should not, in my opinion,
[2:47:22] be the vision that the city has for the city
[2:47:25] of Lake Elsinor. Large truck traffic such as semi trucks
[2:47:30] are not what we want to see driving through our
[2:47:33] city streets. Data centers use millions of gallons of water
[2:47:38] per year, increasing demand on local water supplies. And ultimately
[2:47:43] increasing the cost of our water. We have already been
[2:47:48] subjected to water restrictions in the past. This would only
[2:47:51] make it worse. Data centers also consume huge amounts of
[2:47:57] electricity, which will strain our electrical grid and ultimately increase
[2:48:01] our electric rates. This could potentially increase the likelihood of
[2:48:06] rolling blackouts. The proposed electrical substation for the data center
[2:48:13] will have huge power poles and overhead electrical lines. Again,
[2:48:19] this should not be, in my opinion, the vision that
[2:48:22] the city council has for our city. I'm opposed to
[2:48:29] the data centers for sure. And I would like to
[2:48:33] know how the residents will be notified so we can
[2:48:38] be part of the process, um, voicing our concerns in
[2:48:42] the future when, uh, this project continues down the road.
[2:48:48] I appreciate your time. Have a good evening.
[2:48:59] Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Kaitlyn de los
[2:49:01] Reyes. If you. See me walking over the red wig.
[2:49:09] You did not. Okay. Decided to change it. Okay. Good
[2:49:16] evening Mayor City Council and members of the community. My
[2:49:20] name is Kaitlyn De Ausrelis and I grew up right
[2:49:22] here in Lake Astanor for my first day at Wayward
[2:49:25] Canon Elementary School until graduating from Temesco Canyon High at
[2:49:28] the storm stadium. The future of this community isn't an
[2:49:32] abstract policy debate to me. The city and its inhabitants
[2:49:36] raised me. And that's why I'm here today. Because I've
[2:49:39] deemed it my duty to protect that and those who
[2:49:42] mean something to me. I'm here to voice my opposition
[2:49:44] to option two of the Elsinor Heights Industrial Project. The
[2:49:48] proposed data center would be nearly 248, 000 square feet,
[2:49:53] more than twice at the size of the average data
[2:49:54] center in the United States. With a project of this
[2:49:57] skill comes series concerns. Modern AIDA centers consume enormous amounts
[2:50:03] of electricity. Some use as much power as 100, 000
[2:50:07] homes. And data centers could account for up to 12
[2:50:10] percent of all US electricity used by 2028. At a
[2:50:14] time when Americans are already paying higher utility bills, will
[2:50:18] us, the local citizens, ultimately bear those costs. Water is
[2:50:23] another concern. A medium - sized data center can consume
[2:50:26] up to 110 million gallons of water each year. Our
[2:50:31] own water district adopted a water shortage contingency plan just
[2:50:35] last year, expanding of water - intensive project during a
[2:50:39] time of increasing water uncertainty makes me question the priorities
[2:50:43] of those who created this proposal. Finally, we must think
[2:50:46] about the future. The international monetary fund estimates that around
[2:50:51] 40 percent of jobs worldwide could be affected by AI
[2:50:55] - driven automation, while technology can be beneficial. We should
[2:50:59] not ignore the long - term impact on working people.
[2:51:03] I want to be clear. I do not oppose artificial
[2:51:06] intelligence. I oppose putting corporate profit ahead of my community,
[2:51:12] our community. I want to leave you with one final
[2:51:15] thought. Each of you serves on this council because the
[2:51:18] people of Lake Al - Sonor entrusted you with our
[2:51:22] vote, their vote. Right now I live in Meninih. Um,
[2:51:25] public office is a position of office not entitlement. And
[2:51:30] with that comes accountability. Decisions that you make will be
[2:51:35] remembered by the people you represent. They will remember who
[2:51:39] stood up for this community and they will have the
[2:51:41] opportunity to decide whether you should continue to represent them.
[2:51:46] I ask you to remember that responsibility as you decide
[2:51:49] on the next steps of this very impactful project. I
[2:51:53] ask you to think beyond the short term economic promises
[2:51:56] and consider the long - term consequences for our residents,
[2:52:01] our children, our resources and our quality of life. I
[2:52:06] project, please reject option two. Thank you. Thank you.
[2:52:21] Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Alexis Morelos.
[2:52:40] Good evening Mayor, Council Members, uh, my name is Alexis
[2:52:43] Morelos. I am a member of the Inland Empire DSA.
[2:52:48] Coming down from Reno Valley, um, like many other people
[2:52:52] here. I am here basically to tell you that when
[2:52:55] the time comes, consider, uh, the options for the Elsinor
[2:52:59] Heights Industrial Project. You're not even going to think about
[2:53:02] option too. You're not going to vote for the warehouse
[2:53:05] or for the, uh, data center, excuse me. And if
[2:53:08] I had it my way, I would ask that you
[2:53:10] even scrap the entire thing. I think everybody's pretty tired
[2:53:13] of warehouses, the traffic, the smog. I don't think that's
[2:53:17] going to happen. Um, and also there was actually a
[2:53:20] bit of a comical section in there talking about setting
[2:53:22] aside five acres, four residential, you know, like people are
[2:53:26] dreaming about living next to warehouse. But I'm also here
[2:53:33] to ask that the city council heavily consider and begin
[2:53:37] discussion of a data center moratorium. And afterwards, a ban
[2:53:43] on data centers. And this has to be a band
[2:53:46] both on large data centers and on small data centers.
[2:53:50] And we only need to look across the nation to
[2:53:52] understand why. We can look at one of the biggest
[2:53:56] data centers being developed in our neighboring state of Utah,
[2:53:59] the strato status center under Kevin O'Leary. This is something
[2:54:02] like 40, 000 acres of land. That is going to
[2:54:05] take up. It is going to consume more energy than
[2:54:08] the entire state combined. It is going to deplete the
[2:54:11] already drying up salt lake. And it's going to raise
[2:54:15] average temperatures by about eight degrees. Unless you like the
[2:54:18] heat wave, you know. Uh, in that case, you know,
[2:54:22] don't even think about it. Um, we can also look
[2:54:26] at the effects of smaller data centers. We can look
[2:54:28] at Virginia or they have clusters of smaller debt centers.
[2:54:32] Even then, residents there are seeing increases in their electricity
[2:54:36] rates of up to 200 percent. People are being priced
[2:54:39] out of their electricity. People are being asked to ration
[2:54:43] their water resources while the status center, this non -
[2:54:47] living thing is consuming more water. And basically taking up
[2:54:52] all the resources that we need to live. And so.
[2:54:58] I ask that you begin this moratorium. You look at
[2:55:06] the people around you and ask yourself if you want
[2:55:08] them angry at you. Uh, continuing on with these data
[2:55:14] centers. And I ask that you really consider the future.
[2:55:21] Of our water resources. Of our environment, our electricity. Thank
[2:55:26] you. Thank you.
[2:55:36] Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Holly Jackson.
[2:55:55] Hello. I'm not entirely prepared, but I have done a
[2:55:59] little bit of research. And I feel like everybody has
[2:56:05] seen the data centers just popping up. Around the country.
[2:56:11] And it's very scary what it takes for powering them.
[2:56:17] Um, they consume lots and lots and lots of electricity,
[2:56:22] which generate a lot of heat and require a lot
[2:56:25] of water to cool them off. Um, and I think
[2:56:30] these numbers are in the millions of gallons. Um, I
[2:56:35] think it's at least one million gallons a day, um,
[2:56:39] which is roughly equivalent to 10, 000 people every day.
[2:56:44] Um, and these facilities do not just use the water.
[2:56:49] They also destroy it and poison it and make it
[2:56:51] unusable. Um, and I, I live in Temecula, but I
[2:56:58] just, um, I can't really stand the idea of people,
[2:57:06] um, around me having to suffer with that. Um, and,
[2:57:12] uh, I think it's really important to think about what
[2:57:17] happens to the people actually living near the data center.
[2:57:21] Not only is there water poisoned, um, but also surely
[2:57:26] the value of their homes is going to plummet, um,
[2:57:30] because of the draining noise, endlessly seeping out of them.
[2:57:36] Um, so I think it's important to understand that if
[2:57:41] this were to come to fruition, you are damning these
[2:57:46] people. Thank you.
[2:57:58] Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Daniel Miller.
[2:58:09] Good evening. If I was here to ask you guys,
[2:58:12] if I was a contractor and I want to build
[2:58:14] 250, 000 homes, you'd want to have an impact study.
[2:58:18] You would tell me that it was going to impact
[2:58:19] your water supply, the electrical. The data center they want
[2:58:23] to put in is going to take out about the
[2:58:25] same amount of electricity is 250, 000 homes. We've had
[2:58:30] rolling blackouts here before without the homes. You've already, we've
[2:58:34] building new homes during Lake Elsinor. Just think 250, 000
[2:58:39] new homes pulling off the grid. The way this system
[2:58:42] works, they get priority. Look around the nation to see
[2:58:46] what happens. You make a contract with them. There are
[2:58:49] shell company within two years. There's a third company there
[2:58:52] that doesn't have to hold up to any contract that
[2:58:55] was signed at the beginning. They always tell you there's
[2:58:58] going to be 200 jobs. Then shortly after it, because
[2:59:01] in their natural company takes over it, they don't hold
[2:59:04] up to that. They get the unions to apply for
[2:59:08] it. And the union support it because they're told they're
[2:59:10] going to get these jobs. And then they don't get
[2:59:12] them. They get them for about three months and then
[2:59:14] they're like, go. And you guys will have no control
[2:59:16] over it. The data center is going to be equivalent
[2:59:19] to 250, 000 new homes on our electric grid. Is
[2:59:24] why don't you ask then that the grid be changed
[2:59:27] before you would even consider something like this. It's not
[2:59:30] only going to be 250, 000 homes on electricity, but
[2:59:34] for water, it'd be about 25, 000 homes. A few
[2:59:38] years ago, California had a water shortage. We were told
[2:59:41] we could only water our yard at a certain time.
[2:59:44] Right now we don't have that, but who says it's
[2:59:46] not going to happen again. Add again another 25, 000
[2:59:50] homes pulling water. And again, the way the contracts work,
[2:59:54] they get priority. So if there's rolling blackouts, we, the
[2:59:58] people with our electricity and maybe without water, and they're
[3:00:02] still working. Because right now their sister company up in
[3:00:06] Washington, DC are putting together that our federal government will
[3:00:11] vote on face recognition on your computer. They're saying they're
[3:00:16] calling it that save the children. So they want to
[3:00:19] recognize, they want to take our picture before you can
[3:00:21] even sign onto your phone or your computer to recognize
[3:00:25] that. That's what the data centers are. It's going to
[3:00:27] be to track us like hunger games in real time.
[3:00:30] And you're okaying it. You have people here who votes
[3:00:35] their voice their opinion. They're peaceful. Do you think they're
[3:00:38] going to be peaceful in a July summer if the
[3:00:41] water, no electricity? They're going to remember your face as
[3:00:45] may even know where you're at. And they'll become the
[3:00:47] peaceful protesters that happen in Seattle and Portland. Because if
[3:00:51] children don't have electricity or old people are not having
[3:00:54] electricity and their seniors are dying because of no water.
[3:00:59] That would be on your conscience. I don't know what
[3:01:01] kind of kickback they're going to give you, but can
[3:01:04] your conscience handle it when the people or without water
[3:01:08] and without power. And the contracts, they get to keep
[3:01:11] everything. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Miller.
[3:01:22] Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Jimmy Flores.
[3:01:36] Good afternoon. Michael Smile. Bob, Timothy. Mr. Marlowe's Barbara. Good
[3:01:43] to see you again. You know, I want to thank
[3:01:47] you for having this meeting for the residents. We have
[3:01:53] locked that came out to express their thoughts. I had
[3:01:56] a pleasure calling your project manager today. His true answers
[3:02:00] don't come from Facebook. Two answers come from those that
[3:02:04] are in charge of the project. In interesting to find
[3:02:08] where the project was going. I was told next to
[3:02:11] the dump. Well, that's a nice location. But the real
[3:02:17] reason I'm here is that. In my lifetime as a
[3:02:20] residence in district five, I've learned that a lot of
[3:02:25] us will always come forward and explain the pros and
[3:02:29] cons. But the answers come from, in my opinion, subcommittees.
[3:02:36] For example, do we put wastewater in our lake. What
[3:02:40] do we do? We form a subcommittee, a reclamation task
[3:02:43] force, which I was subchair approved. Through the process and
[3:02:49] it ended up at the water control board. So the
[3:02:54] answer lies in many. Of these projects that come forth.
[3:03:00] In subcommittees and their input. So that they can put
[3:03:03] together the pros and cons of the data center. I
[3:03:09] believe that if you were to appoint from your district,
[3:03:14] a minimum to three of those opposed. Or four. And
[3:03:21] form this subcommittee, you're going to get the input from
[3:03:23] those who are mostly with the outcry. And you have
[3:03:29] a true answer of what your residence and those who
[3:03:32] elected you to office. What they're truly trying to tell
[3:03:36] you. So I'm here tonight to ask that if as
[3:03:41] we move forward, because the environmental impact report still incomplete.
[3:03:47] They haven't even done anything yet. But we're screaming. And
[3:03:50] I, and we have a right to. Because you are
[3:03:54] our electric officials. You decide our future. So I'm here
[3:03:58] to ask each of you to form a subcommittee. Give
[3:04:03] us an opportunity to view so that we can move
[3:04:07] forward with the true direction for our new city. We're
[3:04:11] growing gentlemen. We're going so fast that we don't know
[3:04:14] where to put the next stoplight. But. We know what
[3:04:19] we're doing. You've done an outstanding job. Michael, I'm proud
[3:04:24] of you. You're running again. And if I was in
[3:04:27] your district, I'd vote for you. Mr. McGee, you've done
[3:04:31] an outstanding job with your new homes on a mission
[3:04:33] trail. Traffic needs a little work, but Timothy, outstanding performance.
[3:04:39] Mr. Monols. I love you, man. You're good. But in
[3:04:45] reality, we have to listen to your residence. We live
[3:04:48] here. I selected a developers. When they build their houses,
[3:04:52] they're gone. And we have to live. They left behind.
[3:04:59] Subcommittee gentlemen. Form it. From all your districts. Bring forth
[3:05:04] the best and the worst. Thank you, Mr. Flores.
[3:05:14] Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Jennifer Hem.
[3:05:26] Oh, no. My notes just close. Okay. We're going off
[3:05:28] the cup. Okay. Uh, I am a mother, a teacher
[3:05:32] and a resident in the city. I've been here for
[3:05:35] almost 25 years. And I've never been to a city
[3:05:38] council meeting, but the data center brought me here. Um,
[3:05:41] I understand that it's not necessarily coming, but we all
[3:05:46] fear that it's coming. And we all see it coming
[3:05:47] into many communities that went, it's not coming. And then
[3:05:51] it was there. Um, everybody else has spoken already about
[3:05:54] the water we know. You guys have worked. We just
[3:05:57] will listen to it approving a bunch of money to
[3:05:59] make our water situation better. So I feel like that
[3:06:01] would just be an asinine decision to undo all the
[3:06:05] work that you've done. So hopefully that alone is enough
[3:06:07] to drive you not to make that decision. However, um,
[3:06:10] I also emailed you guys a plethora of articles about
[3:06:13] how it affects the electrical grid and the health of
[3:06:16] the residents nearby, the toxins that come out, the air
[3:06:20] pollution, the noise pollution. People literally can't sleep with the
[3:06:24] noise, you know, and then they're suffering health consequences because
[3:06:27] of that. We live in a wonderful natural, beautiful area.
[3:06:31] And to see that thrown away for like one of
[3:06:34] the earlier gentlemen said, for what? For a thing over
[3:06:38] these people and the people that the children that I
[3:06:41] teach every day to tell them your life wasn't more
[3:06:44] important than the Almighty dollar in our city council, made
[3:06:47] that decision. I just can't see that. I have no,
[3:06:49] I've met some of you talked to some of you
[3:06:51] personally. And I hope that you would never make that
[3:06:53] decision. Um, I hope that you can stick to the
[3:06:55] promise that you made to dream extreme and your responsibility
[3:06:59] to care for this community, its land and its native
[3:07:03] inhabitants and its people and to vote no on that
[3:07:06] possibility. But more importantly to enact a moratorium and hopefully
[3:07:11] soon thereafter a permanent ban on any data center construction
[3:07:15] in our community.
[3:07:24] Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Letitia Barron.
[3:07:38] I get eating mayor council members and residents of Lake
[3:07:41] Elsinor. If you can hear me. So I've done a
[3:07:47] little bit of research the last few weeks regarding the
[3:07:51] AI data centers. And you know, it was off the
[3:07:54] top of my head while I was getting coffee and
[3:07:56] I was realizing all the solar panels that are being
[3:07:58] put on the new homes. Uh, through the real estate,
[3:08:02] you know, every single house that's being is going to
[3:08:04] have a solar panels. So the AI data centers will
[3:08:07] be using the backup storage. I don't know if everybody
[3:08:09] knew this. From the power from all the new built
[3:08:13] homes and existing homes that have solar panels, that yes,
[3:08:16] the major tech companies such as Tesla said Red Renew,
[3:08:20] home and others are working to link residents solar panels
[3:08:24] with the home batteries into the virtual power plants to
[3:08:26] help supply and power and reduce the grids from the
[3:08:29] AI data centers. But does that mean to the residents
[3:08:33] and the consumers that have the solar panels is that
[3:08:36] your stored backup batteries that you guys get, you know,
[3:08:41] for your solar is going to be using at night
[3:08:44] to run their AI denusators. Okay. Just to let you
[3:08:48] know. Short - term effect on that, unfortunately is you
[3:08:55] get your base credits back for your solar panels. It
[3:08:57] reduces a straight on the grid long term effect. Fends
[3:09:02] grid upgrades, utilities must build heavier transmission lines for AI.
[3:09:06] These massive infrastructures are passed out to us consumers. Okay.
[3:09:11] Water prices will go up. Due to the builder with
[3:09:14] AI data center for our city infrastructure cost will add
[3:09:18] communities need to build new water treatment plants, pipeline storage
[3:09:22] systems to handle the facilities that use five million gallons
[3:09:26] of water a day. These multibiliant costs are passed down
[3:09:31] to the consumers. So just to let you know, the
[3:09:36] AI data center that's proposed is going to, to me,
[3:09:40] I don't know about everybody else will be a damaging
[3:09:43] effect. To like us more, to other cities around good
[3:09:48] old America. I'm also proposing as a resident, I'm helping
[3:09:55] Lake Elsin has the only. Not man - like it's
[3:10:00] a natural lake. I don't know why anybody has not
[3:10:05] put this as a historic landmark. They've done the buildings
[3:10:12] around, I guess, now the chimes, uh, some parks, you
[3:10:16] know, all around, but not one person. Has proposed for
[3:10:20] Lake Elstart to be a historic landmark. And I'm kind
[3:10:23] of surprised at that because of the history here. So
[3:10:27] I'm going to be nominating like gylsner as a historic
[3:10:30] landmark. Thank you. Thank you.
[3:10:40] Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Dana Hamm.
[3:10:52] Hi. My name is Dana Hamm. I'm a resident Lake
[3:10:55] Elnor. I've been my entire life. I'm a current student
[3:10:58] in this town. I go to like Elsa in high
[3:11:00] school. And sorry phasing a little nervous. I've never spoken
[3:11:04] when I've argued before. But I'm also terrified at the
[3:11:09] prospect of growing up in a world where it not
[3:11:11] only is essentially impossible to move out and live on
[3:11:14] your land in a foregret in life at 18, 19,
[3:11:17] but also now possibly not being able to have clean
[3:11:20] drinking water and growing up with clean water and for
[3:11:25] our kids and our future generations and the rest of
[3:11:28] my life if we do this. Um, you know, that
[3:11:31] was my mom back then. I grew up with her
[3:11:34] telling me stop posting so much water, we're going to
[3:11:37] drought to which I would reply. We're always in a
[3:11:39] drought. So it seems sort of ridiculous. To be wanting
[3:11:46] or even considering. Something that would pollue our water in
[3:11:51] for our kids and for your kids and your grandkids.
[3:11:55] And like I said, generations to come. Um, that's pretty
[3:11:59] much it. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Harry.
[3:12:10] Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Christian Sandoval.
[3:12:23] You turned it off. There you go. Good to go.
[3:12:26] Okay. How's it going everybody? Um, thank you for having
[3:12:29] me here. Or, well, thank you for letting me be
[3:12:31] here actually. Uh, I'm going to keep it short and
[3:12:33] simple. Uh, we've heard a lot of the research. We
[3:12:36] heard a lot of the impact. I grew up in
[3:12:38] Wildmar my whole life. I now live in like Elsinor.
[3:12:42] And I'm going to be honest. I've seen a lot
[3:12:44] of great things come out of Lakeyesnor. I feel like
[3:12:47] as a kid, I wasn't really aware of some of
[3:12:50] those things. I kind of didn't really pay attention to
[3:12:52] those. But now as an adult, it's awesome seeing all
[3:12:55] these events on Main Street, the investment we're putting in
[3:12:57] there. The car show, that was awesome. Just the different
[3:13:02] businesses we have there going to bloom cough, getting that
[3:13:04] ice cream coffee drink. You know, probably has way too
[3:13:07] much sugar, but you know, that's a holder topic. Um,
[3:13:10] going to the different restaurants there, just seeing the great
[3:13:13] thing, the beautification by the freeway here. I mean, aside
[3:13:16] from the streetlight thing happening there, it's, it's really cool.
[3:13:20] Uh, and so what I've noticed is just a lot
[3:13:23] of community building, right? And I think going to the
[3:13:26] point of the data centers, right? The data centers are
[3:13:30] the undoing all of those beautiful things that we've been
[3:13:33] seeing. Just being here and seeing the presentation on the
[3:13:36] lake and seeing the impact seeing the pictures, like that's
[3:13:40] beautiful progress. And again, with all the research and the
[3:13:44] impacts that we've been listening to here, like, I feel
[3:13:47] like that undoes it. And so I think it just
[3:13:50] comes down to a matter of what do we value
[3:13:52] most? Is it going to be that community that you
[3:13:54] all have spent so much time cultivating here. Pridefully, as
[3:13:59] you guys should, right? That's the greatest things ever. Or
[3:14:01] if you're going to be chasing the revenue, the profit
[3:14:04] that might benefit us in a year for a year
[3:14:06] for a couple years, but in the long term, right?
[3:14:08] It's going to impact not us, but the generations after
[3:14:11] us. So I think taking that into consideration is key
[3:14:15] here. You know, I know it's just an optional or
[3:14:18] an alternative in this else in the plan that we've
[3:14:21] been addressing. But the research is there. The impact is
[3:14:25] there. We can either respect it or we can overlook
[3:14:28] it. And I think that's on you guys to reflect
[3:14:32] and really consider. I'm really proud of seeing the turnout
[3:14:34] we have here, especially the young folks still in school.
[3:14:38] Can we clap it up for them real quick. Having
[3:14:43] that civic pride is huge. And so I know you
[3:14:47] all seeing them here is a cool thing too. And
[3:14:49] so just we want to value that community that you
[3:14:52] all have spent so much time building and keep that
[3:14:55] in the forefront. We're making a decision. Thank you all.
[3:15:03] Next speaker, please. Our last speaker is Tarek Gadd.
[3:15:13] Good evening. I'm going to keep it brief. There's six
[3:15:16] points I want to share with you. Uh, some of
[3:15:18] it has already been recapped by the other members. Basically
[3:15:21] the homes of the proposed AI data center is obviously
[3:15:24] it's the water resource chain, which we in Southern California
[3:15:27] suffer a lot from special with the drought. The impact
[3:15:30] on the, uh, electricity price. Yes, I understand that the
[3:15:34] local utility is upgrading the circus here near Lake Elsied
[3:15:38] or with a new substation that's upcoming. However, the costs,
[3:15:41] unfortunately, will not be fully taken by the customers, such
[3:15:45] as the AI data center, but mainly by the customers,
[3:15:49] like the local citizens. Unfortunately, I have to chip in
[3:15:52] and contribute to that cost. Uh, the traffic, the increased
[3:15:56] traffic. Data centers require a lot of, uh, processing chips
[3:16:01] and the solicita hard drives that failed pretty often. Uh,
[3:16:05] fuel for their backup generators, et cetera, to kind of
[3:16:08] require a lot of increased traffics, batteries, best systems, all,
[3:16:11] etc. The noise pollution, the consistent humming that we hear
[3:16:15] about and at the other states. Uh, the microclimate heat
[3:16:19] surge. There's something called the heat dome. As far as
[3:16:21] we know that impact of AI data centers. They cold
[3:16:26] their equipment down, but the cranial effect heat dome that
[3:16:29] begins six miles out from the radius of the data
[3:16:31] centers. Locally, it may not be felt for the rest
[3:16:33] of Lake Elsinor. It may be felt. And the last
[3:16:36] point is that once one data center comes in, it
[3:16:39] doesn't stop. It's going to expand. And then the second
[3:16:42] one is going to pop up. Third one like popcorn.
[3:16:45] That's, that's the leak future that I'm worried about. Thank
[3:16:48] you for your time.
[3:16:58] Madam clerk, that was our last speaker? Yes, sir. Very
[3:17:01] good. Before we move on, I just want to let
[3:17:03] you all know that we appreciate your participation here tonight.
[3:17:07] And I'd ask you to wait until council comments because
[3:17:11] I believe each one of my colleagues is going to
[3:17:14] want to address what you had to say here this
[3:17:17] evening. So we do have a protocol to follow first.
[3:17:21] And that takes us now to city manager comments. Uh,
[3:17:24] the only comment I have is in addition to the
[3:17:26] presentations we saw tonight. The city received an award letter
[3:17:30] from California Department of Booty and Waterways that they are
[3:17:35] replacing our restroom floating restrooms on the lake. It's very
[3:17:40] good. We won that. With that, that's all I have.
[3:17:42] Thank you, Mr. City Manager. Madam attorney. No comments. Very
[3:17:46] good. Our treasurers here with us this evening. Mr. Castro.
[3:17:50] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Good evening everybody. I want to
[3:17:53] thank you guys for being here this evening. We encourage
[3:17:56] members of the public to come out and speak out
[3:17:58] at these meetings. So thank you for being the best
[3:18:00] part of Lake Elsinor. And this is all what it's
[3:18:04] about. So thank you for being here this evening. Thank
[3:18:07] you Mayor. Thank you Mr. Treasure brings it up to
[3:18:12] the dais for council comments. Council member Carol. Yes. Thank
[3:18:16] you. So as the newest or yes newest council member
[3:18:21] here, I could tell you why I sit here. Uh,
[3:18:24] I sit here for, uh, to represent my family, uh,
[3:18:28] my friends. And certainly my neighbors. And if I wasn't
[3:18:34] to listen to my neighbors to not be doing an
[3:18:36] injustice to this position. And so your comments are not
[3:18:41] lost on me. I don't believe that they're lost on
[3:18:43] my colleagues up here. And so I thank you for
[3:18:45] being here. And I appreciate. Everybody speaking. Cause that, that
[3:18:50] is what we are, right? We're America. And so thank
[3:18:52] you. I really appreciate that. First slide. Congratulations to the
[3:18:59] Hanson family for bloom turning five years old. Downtown's an
[3:19:04] amazing, truly an amazing place. I think Bloom, you know,
[3:19:10] with their sugary drinks and great ice cream, it's a
[3:19:14] unique opportunity for families to gather. This is my family
[3:19:16] along with some members of the Hanson family. Just celebrating
[3:19:20] their five year anniversary. And so I just want to
[3:19:22] say thank you to them and to the community members
[3:19:24] standing up and opening up businesses here. And I would
[3:19:26] ask that everybody please support our local businesses, uh, especially,
[3:19:30] especially Bloom here on Main Street. Next slide, please. Um,
[3:19:36] my family is able to attend fast and loud. The
[3:19:39] exotic night. An amazing car show. I believe it's the
[3:19:43] last one of the summer. Truly it was an amazing
[3:19:47] unique opportunity for my kids to enjoy cars that you
[3:19:50] just don't really see around, uh, like you all so
[3:19:52] often. So, uh, really want to say thank you to
[3:19:54] city staff and all the sponsors. Hooking cleaver ranch, uh,
[3:19:58] especially for, you know, sitting there and talked about, uh,
[3:20:02] healthy meat and healthy beef that he grows up in
[3:20:04] Idaho and ships down here for all of our families
[3:20:06] to have a unique opportunity to eat a little bit
[3:20:09] healthier. Next slide, please. Uh, congratulations on the cave or
[3:20:15] the ice cave soft opening. I think they're actually now
[3:20:17] open, opened on Sunday, I believe. This is a unique,
[3:20:23] truly unique business here. It's ice skating rink with NHL
[3:20:25] size rank and then a mini rink adjacent to that.
[3:20:29] Again, this is amazing family that has decided to invest
[3:20:32] here. And like else, Noran, and I ask everybody to
[3:20:34] go out and support. Again, if it wasn't for local
[3:20:36] businesses and our neighbors out there, what would we have.
[3:20:39] Um, so please, uh, enjoy a nice evening ice skating
[3:20:43] cool off. It's wonderful inside. Latest and greatest technology and
[3:20:47] a unique opportunity to just spend some time with family
[3:20:49] and friends. Next slide. National night out is coming. Uh,
[3:20:53] it's going to be next week, August 4th, 6th to
[3:20:57] 8 p. m. and my family park McVicker Canyon Park.
[3:21:01] Meet all your first responders. Explore police fire and emergency
[3:21:04] vehicles. Enjoy free activities, games, and fun for all the
[3:21:08] ages. And connect with your neighbors and celebrate what makes
[3:21:11] our community strong. Uh, next slide. And then amazing. Actually,
[3:21:17] I'm super excited for this. Boosting the sand. This is
[3:21:19] literally going to be a concert on the sand at
[3:21:22] launch point. Uh, the concert starts at 5 p. m.
[3:21:25] I'm sorry, the gates open at 5 p. m. You're
[3:21:27] going to please, you're going to be able to enjoy
[3:21:29] Shani Wilson and Combs USA, a Luke Combs cover. Uh,
[3:21:34] so unique opportunity to sit there in the sand, look
[3:21:36] at our beautiful lake. Enjoy all the latest and greatest
[3:21:39] technology we've put out there. Um, and just a good
[3:21:42] opportunity to hang out. Um, so please come and join
[3:21:45] us August 8th. Next slide, please. And something truly amazing.
[3:21:52] This is, uh, the city actually put in for this
[3:21:54] grant. It was sponsored by Ken Calvert, Congressman Ken Calvert.
[3:21:58] So happy to announce that we were awarded a 25
[3:22:00] million dollar build grant for the interchange of central avenue
[3:22:04] in the 15 freeway. Highway 74, ascends you may know
[3:22:07] it. Uh, this is obligated by September 2030. It's already
[3:22:11] being studied. And as you can see here's the design.
[3:22:14] Um, so really thank you to Ken Calvert. Thank you
[3:22:16] to our community for, you know, speaking up and saying
[3:22:19] that this needs to be adjusted. And thank you to
[3:22:21] staff for going after this money and really giving us
[3:22:23] the opportunity to, uh, alleviate some of the traffic issues
[3:22:26] that we all face every day on our commutes to
[3:22:29] work and home. So with that, I say thank you
[3:22:32] guys. Thank you neighbors for being amazing. And thank you
[3:22:35] for making Lake also know what it is. Just, I
[3:22:38] think the best town. Certainly in California. So thank you.
[3:22:45] Thank you, council member. Councilman Romanos. Thank you honorable mayor.
[3:22:50] Uh, I'm going to start off tonight by thanking the
[3:22:53] members of the community who came out and showed up
[3:22:55] and had decorum. And you guys were polite. And you
[3:22:59] guys recognized that we're in a meeting setting. And you
[3:23:03] came and brought a motion. And you certainly said your
[3:23:05] peace. And, uh, I think that's a pretty special thing.
[3:23:10] It's easier to go ahead and hear your community when
[3:23:13] they're speaking to you, not shouting at you. So thank
[3:23:15] you for your decorum tonight. I'm going to go through
[3:23:18] a couple of points as kind of good news, bad
[3:23:21] news. All right. So the good news is, is we
[3:23:24] didn't improve a data center tonight. The bad news is,
[3:23:27] is we weren't considering a data center tonight. The good
[3:23:31] news is, is that, uh, we heard you guys. And
[3:23:35] I think I'll list all these points here in a
[3:23:37] moment. Uh, the bad news is, is that I think
[3:23:40] sometimes there's a disconnect between how local municipal governments work.
[3:23:45] And so I'm going to give you guys some points
[3:23:47] so that you understand a few items. Number one, this
[3:23:51] is not a city project. Okay. This is not an
[3:23:54] initiative that the city asked for or brought to the
[3:23:57] city. This is a property owner who wants to do
[3:24:01] something with the property. They want to change the zoning
[3:24:03] and then make a profit. Okay. And so what they're
[3:24:06] doing is they're studying, they're spending money and time and
[3:24:10] money and studies to go ahead and change the zoning
[3:24:12] and create as many uses as possible in order to
[3:24:15] create a profit on the property. We as a city
[3:24:19] are obligated to accept an application not accepted and approve
[3:24:23] it, but accept an application that's complete and consider it.
[3:24:28] And the city is also required to hire the professionals
[3:24:33] reimbursed by the applicant in order to go ahead and
[3:24:36] study the project in a third party way that's absolutely
[3:24:40] just independent. So we can get information about what the
[3:24:44] project is going to do to our community, how it's
[3:24:47] going to impact our community and whether or not it's
[3:24:50] something that this body as well as the planning commission
[3:24:54] will consider. And whether we think it's a good idea
[3:24:56] or not. We also act as in what's called a
[3:25:00] quasi judicial role. Okay. And that means that we almost
[3:25:04] have to be like judges. And unlike your congressman or
[3:25:08] unlike your state assembly people, we're not allowed to come
[3:25:11] out and say whether we're four or against something, especially
[3:25:15] as an appending application here within the city. To do
[3:25:18] so would mean, what's that? Yeah. Well, she'd be mad.
[3:25:22] That's our attorney. But also we could any decision that
[3:25:26] came out of this body could be challenged in court
[3:25:29] and judges could then overturn that decision. And then basically
[3:25:34] impose their own rules and regulations. And maybe approve the
[3:25:37] project that we didn't want or maybe deny a project
[3:25:41] that we said yes to. Okay. So we have to
[3:25:43] be kind of careful about the way we speak here.
[3:25:46] And we have in the way that we go ahead
[3:25:47] and convey information. I can speak to the project and
[3:25:50] provide information. I can't tell you what I think about
[3:25:51] it yet. Okay. And that's not me trying to be
[3:25:54] cagey or anything like that. That's the law. All right.
[3:25:58] A lot of people brought up some phenomenal points. Okay.
[3:26:02] Uh, power. There's not enough power to go ahead. And
[3:26:07] there's potential issues with that. Water. The city would never
[3:26:11] ever connect any type of project to our lake water.
[3:26:15] I don't know why that's out there. That's not what
[3:26:19] the project proposes. And it certainly isn't something that I
[3:26:22] think we'd even consider. Okay. So I think that needs
[3:26:26] to be kind of dealt with. The moratorium is only
[3:26:30] effective for a year. Okay. But we are going through
[3:26:35] a city update, a general plant update process. And we
[3:26:37] certainly can take this into consideration during that process as
[3:26:40] a matter of fact. So we can go ahead and
[3:26:42] regulate uses and effects. I'm not saying that we would.
[3:26:45] But any changes that we made right now, whether it
[3:26:47] was in passing a moratorium or changing anything in the
[3:26:51] general plant would not impact the project that's currently under
[3:26:54] application because they would, they would have applied before we
[3:26:57] made the changes. Okay. Uh, kickbacks. As far as I
[3:27:02] know, this developer is not involved with any type of
[3:27:04] donations to any of the council members. So I know
[3:27:08] I haven't received any. And I probably wouldn't take them.
[3:27:11] And if I did take them, if they exceed a
[3:27:13] certain dollar amount, I can't vote on the project. That's
[3:27:15] the law too. Okay. So there are no kickbacks. The
[3:27:19] subcommittee that would consider this project exists. It's called the
[3:27:22] planning commission. They consider it first. And then they make
[3:27:25] a recommendation to this council. That's their job. That's why
[3:27:28] they're appointed. And they do a phenomenal job of it.
[3:27:30] They will dig in and they will ask the tough
[3:27:33] questions. Uh, somebody mentioned making the lake of historic landmark.
[3:27:37] You can't do that. It would essentially go ahead and
[3:27:39] revert to a tribal cultural resource. But it's a great
[3:27:44] suggestion. I mean, kind of in okay suggestion, but, but
[3:27:48] it wouldn't work. You can't do that with lakes. Um,
[3:27:50] even if they're old lakes. Right. Even if they're natural
[3:27:53] lakes, you can't really do that. And again, people have
[3:27:57] noted, we're spending a lot of time and money trying
[3:27:59] to make the lake a nice place. Why, why would
[3:28:03] we connect it to the lake? That doesn't make sense.
[3:28:05] So, um, and quite frankly, as far as I know,
[3:28:09] the end user, no data center is in the region.
[3:28:12] Nobody has approached the city in terms of putting a
[3:28:15] data center here. This is a property owner who does
[3:28:18] not intend to build anything entitling the project, trying to
[3:28:22] go ahead and prepare it to sell it to somebody
[3:28:23] to go ahead and build something. It could be a
[3:28:25] lot of different things. And I can't even tell you
[3:28:29] whether or not I'm in favor of the zoning change.
[3:28:33] I mean, that's a question in its own right. So.
[3:28:36] So there you go. Uh, I think that there's, um,
[3:28:41] the reason why I go through all of that is
[3:28:42] just, uh, I think sometimes people read something, uh, they
[3:28:46] get passionate about it and scared. And I don't want
[3:28:49] you to be walking around scared. And I certainly don't
[3:28:51] want you to think that we're not sitting up here
[3:28:52] thinking about all these different things. And I appreciate all
[3:28:55] the information. We all, we all, we're all very familiar
[3:28:58] with a lot of the information. We're connected to. So,
[3:29:01] um, again, thank you for coming out tonight. Thank you
[3:29:04] for making your voices heard. Thank you for your decorum.
[3:29:08] Come on out when the project's being. And we will
[3:29:12] remember you. We'll remember the comments from this night, certainly.
[3:29:16] We've already taken public comments. I don't want to turn
[3:29:18] this into a debate and do a discussion. I can't
[3:29:22] really answer. I think I answered a lot of questions.
[3:29:26] Like, but we can talk offline. I'd be happy to
[3:29:28] do so. Okay. Uh, and with that, again, thank you
[3:29:31] again. We're going to go to slides now for myself.
[3:29:37] On Thursday. At 6. 30 p. m., we're going to
[3:29:41] have live at the lakefront perform. The second to last
[3:29:45] performance, and that is the 90 station pop rock hip
[3:29:49] hop. This group actually performs in Las Vegas. They're a
[3:29:53] big act, essentially. I expect this to receive a lot
[3:29:57] of attention. I'll be there as a matter of fact.
[3:30:00] So come on down to launch point. Uh, it's on
[3:30:02] Riverside drive. If you don't know the admission is very,
[3:30:06] very good free. It's absolutely free. It's affordable. It's affordable.
[3:30:10] This is our love letter to the people of Lake
[3:30:12] Elsinor. We certainly want you guys to have a good
[3:30:14] time. It kind of is starting to wrap up the
[3:30:16] concert series that we've been holding here at the city
[3:30:18] of Lake House. You've never been. You should definitely go
[3:30:22] bring a chair to sit in because it's out on
[3:30:24] the open lawn. Bring a chair to sit in, maybe
[3:30:27] a blanket. I think it'll be too warm for a
[3:30:29] blanket. Also you're dancing shoes. Be comfortable. Is it out
[3:30:32] on the grass and you will definitely have a good
[3:30:34] time. And if these guys are as good as I'm
[3:30:36] told, uh, it will be a wonderful evening. Thank you
[3:30:39] for the time, mayor. And with that, we'll see you
[3:30:42] next time. Thank you, council member of Pro Tem Sheridan.
[3:30:46] Thank you, Mayor McGee. Good evening, everyone. First, I want
[3:30:48] to echo what my colleagues have already said. I appreciate
[3:30:51] that everybody came out tonight and let us know your
[3:30:54] feelings about this. It is important that we hear from
[3:30:58] you. And so thank you for that. I won't reiterate
[3:31:02] what council member mono said, but I think he outlined
[3:31:05] it well. So I'll leave it at that. Uh, I'll
[3:31:09] go to my first slide. Uh, I am the representative
[3:31:12] from the council for the Riverside Transit Agency. The bus
[3:31:16] folks here in Western Riverside County. And I'm so glad
[3:31:20] there are people here tonight so I can let you
[3:31:23] know that you can ride the bus through the end
[3:31:26] of August for just 25 cents. And you may not
[3:31:30] know this, but the bus does go from Riverside County
[3:31:35] to Disneyland. So you can take a bus ride out
[3:31:39] the Disneyland. Full disclosure. It takes a minute or two.
[3:31:46] And it takes a minute or two to come back.
[3:31:49] But for a quarter, that's a pretty good deal. Also
[3:31:52] if you are 18 years old or younger, you can
[3:31:56] ride the bus for free through the end of 2027.
[3:32:00] It's a pretty good deal. We are very proud of
[3:32:04] what RTA has been doing over the last couple of
[3:32:06] years. I am an honored to be on their board
[3:32:09] of directors. I'm actually second vice chair this year. And
[3:32:12] it is just been a wonderful experience being on the
[3:32:16] board for the last couple of years. And I would
[3:32:18] urge you to ride the bus if you have the
[3:32:20] opportunity. You can bring it back to me. I do
[3:32:24] not have a slide on the Lakehouse North storm, but
[3:32:27] some of you may know that I am associated with
[3:32:29] the Lake Elsinore storm. It is the only minor league
[3:32:33] baseball team in Riverside County. And only one of 120
[3:32:39] cities across the country that have a minor league baseball
[3:32:42] team. We play a diamond stadium, games start at 605
[3:32:47] on Tuesday's Wednesdays, Thursdays, and Sundays. On Fridays all season
[3:32:54] long continuing through August and into September and Friday nights
[3:32:58] we'll have fireworks after the game. That game starts at
[3:33:01] 645. And then on Saturday, the game also starts at
[3:33:05] 645. I would urge you to come out and support
[3:33:08] the Lake Elsinor storm. We won the first half of
[3:33:11] the California League's South Division. So we are in the
[3:33:14] playoffs. So there will be an opportunity for us to
[3:33:17] win our fifth California League Championship this year, which was
[3:33:20] something that we'll be very proud of if we can
[3:33:22] get there. So again, I urge you to come out
[3:33:24] to Diamond Stadium, check out Lake Osedor Storm, baseball. It
[3:33:28] is a great time. It's an affordable time. And I
[3:33:31] guarantee your family will have a fun time. Finally, I
[3:33:35] just want to say thank you to my God's son
[3:33:40] and his new bride. And congratulations to them. They got
[3:33:44] married this past Saturday in upstate New York. And to
[3:33:49] Corey and to Emily, thank you for allowing me to
[3:33:53] participate in the wedding. And I hope you're having a
[3:33:56] great time. I love you both. And with that, I
[3:33:59] say thank you for the time, sir. So the Godfather
[3:34:03] was in New York. Yes, I was. Very well. First
[3:34:10] of all, thank you all for coming tonight and for
[3:34:14] bringing your passion. I know we've lost several people over
[3:34:18] the course of the night. Um, sometimes the meetings are
[3:34:21] boring. Um, sometimes you're not fully engaged. Or you have
[3:34:25] loved young ones that need to get home to bed.
[3:34:30] But, um, your message came through loud and clear tonight.
[3:34:33] One of the questions that I heard was, how do
[3:34:36] we get notified? How are we going to know? So
[3:34:39] here's how you know. What has happened right now is
[3:34:43] you have a notice of preparation of an environmental document.
[3:34:46] And so that's what's brought you here today. You're on
[3:34:50] alert that that is occurring. The applicant is now going
[3:34:53] to prepare with the help of a consultant. An environmental
[3:34:59] impact report that is going to address all of the
[3:35:02] things that our staff has asked them to address. If
[3:35:05] you send an email to our planning department indicating that
[3:35:10] you want to be kept on the mailing list. When
[3:35:14] the draft environmental document comes out, you will be notified
[3:35:19] that it is now ready for public review. And you'll
[3:35:22] be able to go on to our website and get
[3:35:25] your own copy. It's very important once that comes out,
[3:35:29] you have 45 days to respond in writing all of
[3:35:34] your concerns about the project. The applicant is then required
[3:35:39] to address every single comment. So the comment too big.
[3:35:44] There's no comment too small. And that is how you
[3:35:47] get your voice out. That draft document is then compiled
[3:35:51] into a final document and it will be presented to
[3:35:54] the council as part of a complete application and request.
[3:36:00] Now we heard from Chamber of Commerce past in Chamber
[3:36:05] of Commerce present that stated that these are great people.
[3:36:09] They're consultant is here today that says these are great
[3:36:12] people. Well, I don't know that. I've never met them.
[3:36:16] And quite frankly, if the environmental document comes back and
[3:36:21] they didn't listen to you, well, they're tone deaf when
[3:36:24] it comes to this community. So I want you to
[3:36:27] know that you have had an impact here this evening.
[3:36:31] And with that, I need to let you know that
[3:36:34] our work is not done here this evening. The council
[3:36:37] needs to recess back into closed session, excuse me, it
[3:36:41] is the successor agency. We have one more matter of
[3:36:45] business. So we're going to hit the gavel. We're going
[3:36:48] to go back upstairs. Some of you may have questions
[3:36:50] for us. If it's brief, we can answer it before
[3:36:54] we go upstairs. But again, we have more business to
[3:36:57] take care of. And so with that, Madame Eternity, do
[3:37:00] I need to make another announcement? No, you can adjourn
[3:37:02] the city council meeting and recess the successor agency. We
[3:37:06] are going to adjourn our city council meeting and recess
[3:37:09] the successor agency meeting back into closed session. Good night
[3:37:14] and thank you for your decorum. Hi, how are you?