[0:21] I'm

[0:29] sorry, we don't have a court tonight, so councilmember Lamb here, councilmember Comforoning here, President Pro Temfort, here.

[0:46] Councilmember Dandelita, here, Councilmember Mosher, here, and Councilmember Papacek, here, and President

[0:58] Rod.

[0:59] Here.

[1:01] Thank you.

[1:02] We have a core.

[1:02] Thank you.

[1:03] The purpose of this special meeting is of the Lake Waring Village Council is to discuss issues associated

[1:08] with the dissolution petitions as requested by Councilmembers Lamb and Dandelita.

[1:12] Item number four, call to the public if anybody wishes to speak on a non-agenda item.

[1:18] Each person will like wishing to address the village council should be afford an opportunity to do so.

[1:22] If you wish to speak, please rise or raise your hand in a case.

[1:25] You wish to speak and when recognized, give your name and address your comments to the chair.

[1:29] So is there anyone on any non-agenda item?

[1:33] Seeing that, I'll close call to the public.

[1:35] Item number five, other items.

[1:36] A, discuss issues associated with dissolution petitions, Mr. Perry.

[1:43] Your other members of Council, first I would note for you that we will be taking minutes from the recording of this meeting.

[1:52] So please make sure to talk into your microphone so that it can be picked up.

[1:58] Council members, Lamb, and Dandelidas requested a special meeting to discuss issues associated

[2:06] with the dissolution or disincorporation petition.

[2:10] The Council members requested that the village attorney be president this meeting and

[2:15] our attorney is present.

[2:17] I provide a council with the minutes from the July 22nd, special meeting during which Council

[2:26] consider the disincorporation petition and at this time President Brut, if it's okay, we'll turn it over to the council members who have requested the meeting.

[2:41] Thank you.

[2:42] This is the end of this.

[2:45] At the July 22nd meeting, special meeting, Council voted unanimously to take no action

[2:51] around the petition to disincorporate the village.

[2:56] By taking no action, I know my expectation was that this was going to go to ballot in November.

[3:03] And I suspect that was all of our expectation.

[3:08] In the last week, I've been approached by residents who have expressed concern that there

[3:17] were things going on that may, I guess, prevent that from going to ballot in November.

[3:25] So I felt along with Councilman Lam that we needed to get that out in front of us and

[3:32] understand what the issues might be and what do we do to take care of those so that we

[3:39] meet our expectation of having this on the ballot in November. One of the things that we,

[3:47] the motion was to take no action. And what I guess in retrospect, what concerns me about that

[3:53] motion is that by taking no action, we counsel weren't doing anything to make sure that that was going

[4:00] ballot. So, I feel a second motion would be beneficial, and I'd like to make that motion

[4:07] if I could. And that motion would be to direct the village council member.

[4:13] So, the purpose of the special meeting tonight is simply to discuss the issues. There was

[4:22] nothing on the agenda to take any action tonight. And the charter requires that if there's

[4:29] action to be taken by the Council, it has to be in the agenda.

[4:35] Thank you.

[4:36] George.

[4:40] Okay.

[4:40] Well, let me tell you what my motion was going to be, okay?

[4:43] Since I can't make a motion.

[4:45] I wanted to make a motion to direct the village manager and the village attorney to take whatever action necessary to ensure the disincorporation question is placed on the November ballot.

[4:55] at the Council's Direction at their July 22nd meeting.

[4:59] I feel that that was the step that we missed when we made a motion to take no action.

[5:05] I think there should have been a subsequent motion that directed action on behalf of the

[5:10] Village Manager and the Attorney to make this happen from our expectation.

[5:15] That was the motion that I was prepared to make tonight.

[5:18] Here on our fight could respond to that.

[5:20] Can I get my turn into a heavy-athlete question

[5:24] and then I would like to finish the question?

[5:26] I will let you speak up, I'm sorry.

[5:29] So the council did vote to take no action on the side.

[5:38] Under state statute, and the attorney

[5:43] can add additional information if he wishes to do so.

[5:47] It was everyone's understanding that by the council taking no action, the council was not in any way preventing the petition ballot question from going on the ballot.

[6:06] The village is not the only determinant as to whether or not something goes on the ballot.

[6:15] There are certain authority and functions of the township clerk,

[6:22] and there are certain authority and functions by the county elections division

[6:28] in determining whether an item gets on the ballot.

[6:31] I can only tell you that village administration, the village attorney, has not taken any

[6:41] action contrary to the Council's direction that we take no position on this matter.

[6:49] Take no action on that.

[6:52] And we have been following that direction.

[6:56] There are other actors involved in this process legally, and those processes are outside the control of the village.

[7:09] Mr. Lam.

[7:10] Thank you.

[7:11] So I'm going to go back to the beginning.

[7:13] So the reason not to refute your statement, Mr. McLeard.

[7:19] The reason I brought this to your attention, and I provided all of you with the timeline of the complaints and conversations that I've had with

[7:26] citizens in the county elections officials.

[7:30] And the reason why we are here, I request, we'd be here tonight, because on July 30th, approximately 8.30 a.m., during a telephone inquiry to the open county elections division, I was told by a fellow I believe his name was, I'm not going to name this name, but it was the young man who works there with the supervisor in the office that we can produce names. Should you want them later, but I've intentionally left all names off of here, except for the petitioners, Mr. Rewards name.

[8:00] So during that telephone conversation, I was explicitly told that I was told that the proposal

[8:07] was not expected to appear on the November ballot because the attorney's representing

[8:12] the governmental entities, and they specifically mentioned the village, the township,

[8:16] and the county, had met and concluded that the statutory petition breach seizures did

[8:22] not apply due to a specific legal theory.

[8:26] Okay, that legal theory is the same legal theory that I've been presented to me previously in these chambers.

[8:34] Okay, this really rocked my boat.

[8:38] Okay, whatever reasons this was, you know, the director of elections staff telling me that we were the village attorney was specifically involved in trying to talk them into not putting it on the belt.

[8:57] So that's quite serious because I can go on and on, but it's seven votes we had in our

[9:04] meeting prior to our vote, the village attorney advised the council that if we had

[9:12] the motion to take no action, that the disincorporation question would be placed on a November

[9:17] ballot pursuant to the procedures in 7,4,8,8.

[9:21] At that point we had a boat and it was unanimous, seven, agreed.

[9:26] So I think it's clear that the intention of the village council was that the administration's staff would do their best to promote that happening.

[9:35] And so I'm here tonight asking why the citizens are calling me and why the elections people are making or saying these things to me.

[9:45] And that's the only reason I'm here.

[9:48] So are you going to address that anyway you see fifth, please?

[9:53] Council Member Lam, so the direction from council was what was in the motion to take no action on the petition and to receive them file the petition.

[10:05] If you are posing a question to the village attorney as to whether or not the village attorney

[10:12] to divulge anything from our closed session to other entities.

[10:18] The attorney can answer that question for you.

[10:22] If you like, okay, did you meet with the county?

[10:28] I sent you asked me.

[10:29] Did you meet with the township?

[10:32] Then the county attorneys discuss the ballot reports.

[10:35] So the process that happened, I'm glad we're having this meeting.

[10:38] Good evening, everyone.

[10:39] Tony Chub.

[10:40] So, as the City Manager reference, there are three different players and get it inputting this on the ballot.

[10:51] The first step was the village.

[10:53] We know the action that we took on July 22nd.

[10:57] The next step is the ballot to be certified.

[11:00] That's done by the township clerk in the final is the review by the county election commission.

[11:05] And so, when we decided not to take action, it's imperative to explain to the other parties exactly what position we were taking so that they knew their next steps, and it was at the request of Council for the Township that a meeting was set up between myself.

[11:25] Councilful Board of the Township being Dan Kelly and his associate, Brittany, I can't remember

[11:31] her last name, Joe Rosell, the elections director and Brandon Buck from the Corporate

[11:37] Council Office at the County, and so we did have that meeting subsequent where I advise

[11:42] them solely that we did have the meeting, we took no action, and they discussed what they

[11:48] would be doing going forward.

[11:54] OK, so that's fine.

[11:56] I'll accept your remarks.

[11:59] Basically, superseater is the clerk certifies it,

[12:01] then we act on it, and then it goes to be placed on the ballot.

[12:05] So then recently, I know that we are contacted

[12:09] by the township attorney and said the township attorney

[12:12] had no intention of not advising the township

[12:16] and he believed that the township would not

[12:17] take any action with regard to the petition.

[12:20] I don't know if I can rely on a letter from the Township Attorney to speak with the Township,

[12:26] but I believe that in the past we could rely on the Township Attorney.

[12:30] So I still am a bit concerned about the fact that the election officials were saying that they

[12:36] had a causal reason to me only a legal theory, not a state law or a statute or a specific

[12:44] citation, but only a legal theory that I was told was not a hundred percent. So that would

[12:51] be a legal question, and I would consider discussing that to be a court challenge. And so

[12:57] since we haven't had any court challenges, I'm not understanding why this isn't going on the

[13:02] ballot. Are you aware of any discussions that you had with the Township Attorney, or with

[13:08] the county attorney that would lead you to believe that there is someone who is proposing

[13:13] to not place this ballot on the November ballot?

[13:18] Yeah, I mean, to the contrary, in the meeting, or subsequent to the meeting, we did receive

[13:23] that email from Dan Kelly advising that the Township Board intended to do nothing, and so

[13:29] then that gets it through the second step.

[13:31] But at the meeting, there was Joe Rosal, I do believe he is on the election commission as

[13:37] the a signee of the clerk, along with the Chief Probate Judge and the Treasurer.

[13:46] And the Treasurer, I don't know the Chief Probate Judge, because I don't know the Treasurer.

[13:52] Obviously it's a group of three, and so I have no reason to believe that they would not

[13:59] voting in the affirmative to move this on to the ballot as part of the ballot certification.

[14:04] Thank you.

[14:05] I think the people are happy to hear that.

[14:07] And also I concur with George to do.

[14:09] Have we made sufficient affirmative?

[14:13] Notice to the county that it is the desire of the village of Lake Orient and that it be placed on the ballot?

[14:20] Absolutely.

[14:21] The action that you took is the statutory action to allow for it being placed on the ballot

[14:27] and they were advised up that immediately subsequent to your action.

[14:33] But just to be clear, because I want to make sure I understand the question,

[14:40] our direction

[14:41] was to take no action, not to advocate for or against the simply to take no action.

[14:49] Our understanding is no action by the council was to move it along in the process to be placed

[14:56] the ballot.

[15:00] But I don't know what conversations took place. I wasn't even aware of the first meeting at the time that happened. I kind of call from our attorney after the first meeting, indicating that they had had a meeting. I was a little surprised by it, but part of the normal process.

[15:20] But just to be clear, our actions and Tony correct me if I'm wrong, our actions have been

[15:26] in keeping with Council's direction, and that is that we are – we are to take no action

[15:33] contrary to allowing it to move along to be placed on the ballot.

[15:40] We only have so much control over that.

[15:43] Other people make decisions on that, but we have done nothing to the contrary.

[15:47] Yeah, and that's accurate, and what I was referencing is, yeah, so that is our role within the process

[15:53] But each level, the village, the township, and the county act wholly separately and autonomously and so

[16:02] They wouldn't accept my

[16:06] Presumably advocacy to place it on the ballot or vice versa. I mean, they make their own determinations. They use their own council.

[16:13] We have some experience in the village, so I understand your explanations I'm willing to accept them as the process as long as there is no negative advocacy

[16:21] I believe that the township, I mean sorry, the village clerk had informed me prior to our last meeting that the township clerk was expecting

[16:35] Notification from her of the result of our council meeting action

[16:40] I did not receive a copy of her notifying that clerk of us taking any actions, so I took it by myself to send email to the director of elections, including our minutes of the meeting and informing them of our understanding of the process.

[16:55] I sent that on behalf of myself, not as a voice of the council, but I did use my village email in my village title.

[17:06] So that being the case, I agree with George.

[17:11] I mean, I would have felt better if the meeting, you had said to me that, yeah, we went

[17:23] up there and told them the village wanted to let it go through, as opposed to standing

[17:27] mute, that our action speaks for the action, but I understand your position and I'm not going

[17:34] holds you at fault for it.

[17:37] So thank you for explaining yourself.

[17:41] I did want to explain one more thing

[17:44] that was in your timeline.

[17:48] And in your timeline, you address something

[17:50] that occurred on July 23rd, I believe.

[18:00] So I'm sorry, July 24th.

[18:03] in your timeline. You state that, petitioner Robert Rearge reported to you that during a meeting

[18:14] with township officials he was told that the village manager had contacted the township

[18:19] supervisor concerning a possible discussion with attorneys about the ballot proposal.

[18:27] And I wanted to make sure that there was a clear understanding of what that communication was.

[18:33] because that is the only communication that I've had with anybody externally about the ballot

[18:38] proposal. Actually, my communication wasn't about the ballot proposal itself.

[18:45] And so just to reiterate, July 22nd, the council did hold your special meeting and you

[18:55] to consider the disintegration petition that you voted to receive and file the petition and take no action.

[19:01] The following morning, July 23rd at 10.50 a.m., I called or in Township Supervisor Chris Barnett to inform him of Council's action on the petition and to let him know that I wanted to seek Council authorization at the next Council meeting for me and the Villager Attorney to meet with the Township Supervisor and Township Attorney to discuss an orderly choice.

[19:31] transition plan, if the ballot proposal to disincorporate passes in November.

[19:39] I expressed my concern about the apparent lack of time under state law after the election

[19:44] to adequately plan for such a transition.

[19:48] I asked supervisor Barnett if the township would be willing to have such meetings if council

[19:53] authorized those meetings.

[19:56] That was my conversation with the township supervisor.

[19:59] And then the following morning, I got thinking about the whole timeline further under state law

[20:10] because something just didn't make sense to me about the timing and the fact that we would just abruptly

[20:17] just incorporate once the election was certified.

[20:22] So, I went through the General Law Village Act and I started highlighting all the areas

[20:30] in mapping out the deadlines for how each thing occurs.

[20:37] And once I reviewed the state statute and more detail, it started to become more clear

[20:43] to me as the health things happen.

[20:45] And that, in the fact, the way I read the law.

[20:52] I would like to just point out I'd like to ask you to stop.

[20:55] The council has requested.

[20:57] You're out of order.

[20:58] He was explain or response to you.

[21:00] He's going to advocate for the advocate for the law.

[21:04] I'm ordered.

[21:05] He is explaining something from court.

[21:08] He's advocating illegal position.

[21:11] He is explaining something from your memo.

[21:12] There's no legal position that he is explaining.

[21:14] I wanted to cancel on the public to know exactly what conversation I had and why I had that.

[21:24] So, once I read the statute in more detail, I started to become of the opinion that the village would not just incorporate immediately,

[21:40] that there would be, there would be adequate time after the election for us to work out a transition

[21:47] if the ballot proposal passed.

[21:51] So I texted Chris Barnett that following morning and I told him,

[21:56] I don't believe I need to put this on the council agenda for council authorization

[21:59] to have meetings before the election.

[22:03] I think there would be adequate time after the election

[22:06] if the ballot proposal passes, to have conversations with the touch of to provide for

[22:12] providing for a proper transition from the village to the touch of. That was the extent of my

[22:20] conversations with the touch of the supervisor. I just want to make sure everybody was aware of that

[22:26] because it was outlined in Council Member Lam's timeline.

[22:33] So, what, and I guess Mr. Chow may be even best answered this, what stands in the way at this point, what hurdle still remains that definitively on the ballot in November?

[22:49] So there's two steps, there's the Township Clerk certifying the ballot language and the overall

[23:00] ballot and it's all our understanding from everything that we believe you were afforded

[23:05] that email that they fully intend to do that.

[23:09] And so that's a procedural step I don't think it's a hurdle because it sounds like they are

[23:18] ballot. The final step is the county election commission has to like why certified the ballots

[23:25] and the timing on that. I asked when their meetings are because I couldn't find it on their

[23:31] website and I haven't received a response but I know that it would have to be within the next

[23:36] two weeks at the latest so that ballots could be printed.

[23:42] So how I guess what follow-up is there

[23:46] because what we don't want to have happen is get a surprise, right?

[23:50] None of us wants to find out when we go on November 3rd that hey,

[23:54] there's not a spot here to check the box, right?

[23:58] And I recognize there's timing associated with printing ballots and all that.

[24:03] So do we know what that date is and what has to happen?

[24:08] Because we don't want any surprises.

[24:11] I tell you personally, I take exception to the no action, because the no action on behalf

[24:18] of counsel was only to take no action as far as putting it on the ballot right away or

[24:25] having the disincorporation commission.

[24:28] That's really the no action.

[24:30] And I can tell you that my expectation was not that we were nobody was going to take action.

[24:36] my expectation was we were going to do what it takes to get this on ballot because that's

[24:40] what council by taking no action that's what council on it but that's all water into

[24:45] the bridge at this point. So now what do we have to do to make sure without question that

[24:51] this is going to go on the ballot November. So we can't just wait. So as soon as I figure

[24:58] out when that county election commission meeting is I'll make sure that the council is

[25:05] twice made aware, but that's when the ballots will be certified by the county and that is the final step

[25:11] to them proceed to printing. Like I said, I would think it would happen late this week or early

[25:16] next week, given timing of everything to get the ballots set and printed. And so we will know by

[25:24] it then. Understanding they act fully autonomously, right? And like I said, they're an independent

[25:31] I said they have, everyone uses their own counsel in making their determinations, but I have no reason,

[25:39] you know, not having caught through the election commission.

[25:42] I have no reason to think that they wouldn't, if they...

[25:46] But that next step is just certifying the language.

[25:49] There's no question about the legality or any of that.

[25:53] It's just a matter of signing off on the language.

[25:59] I'm sorry, the county review for the election commission is a whole list, I mean, an overall

[26:07] determination that the questions on the ballot as well as the language are legal and

[26:12] nature.

[26:14] Again, I have no basis to suspect which way the election commission would want to find it illegal

[26:24] in a way. So, but we will know, and if necessary, we can have another closed session, and

[26:32] this is the town trip, you're not saying that the fact is that the town trip is already

[26:37] certified petition, so that's that you mentioned is already been done. So, based on your description

[26:46] then, the only thing we require now is for the election commission.

[26:49] Yeah, so what this letter references, and this is the July 15th, 2026 letter from the

[26:56] Charger Township of Orient Clerk, she certified the signatures were correct for to move

[27:04] it forward, but she subsequently does have to certify the questions over to the Township,

[27:10] and I don't know if I'm sorry, from the Township to the county, I don't know if that process

[27:14] is happening yet.

[27:15] This is where we're looking for the expeditious push on behalf of the bill is to ensure that our clerk

[27:22] was better clerk's on vacation for two weeks so that would then fall upon the billage manager

[27:27] to make sure that that certification is is is gotten

[27:32] Okay, so that was the right answer. I just want to I want to be clear about something so

[27:38] So my understanding is our clerk has notified the township clerk of the action that the council took,

[27:49] which was what we were required to do. Our involvement in this is now completed.

[27:57] I just want to be clear about that.

[27:59] Oh, thank you.

[28:01] I'll do another council questions.

[28:05] Let's come right on.

[28:07] Not really a question, but kind of more of a comment.

[28:10] We've voted no action.

[28:12] That means no action we're done.

[28:14] It doesn't mean that we're going to go investigate and try to,

[28:18] we're not going to make a bunch of rumors or anything like that.

[28:22] And if we're going to be in here for every rumor that pops out there,

[28:26] we might as well set up camp here.

[28:28] Because there's going to be a whole bunch of rumors good and bad.

[28:30] And we just, I don't know, to me all this is a waste of time, because it's all just rumors, and he said she said, and all that crap.

[28:41] I think I'm from the old school, you know, don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.

[28:47] And for me, for me, this is just a waste of time. Thank you.

[28:54] Ms. Mujer.

[28:55] So I just, my baking service, I don't want to see happen what happened in the last time.

[29:02] When we had the petitions and we were told that it wasn't legal.

[29:10] I just don't want there to happen.

[29:12] I believe this was done with the intelligence and we got enough votes.

[29:19] And I just don't want to see that happen again, because if the people are signing the petition,

[29:25] this is what they want,

[29:29] so I just don't want to see it again just thrown away, and I'll

[29:35] we can't do this, and let's move on, and

[29:44] if I could respond to that, because I want to make sure

[29:49] We all have a clear understanding of if you're referring to the DDA petition, is that the one

[29:55] that you're referring to?

[29:56] Here is Stephen.

[29:59] Yes, the DDA.

[30:02] So what happened in that situation was the previous touch of court, not our current touch of court. The previous

[30:11] touch of court had certified the petition for the DDA question and sent it directly to the Oakland County

[30:21] election division. When our charter clearly stated that petitions had to come before council

[30:28] interaction before they went on to the county. That was what we were challenging, not the

[30:35] petition itself, but the process of how it was handled in the fact that the council, the

[30:45] council's authority, to review the petition into act on it before it went to the county, was

[30:51] you served. That was what our issue was, and I just want to make sure everybody's clear on that.

[30:56] I understand that. Thank you. I, I, I just. I, I, I, I, I can clarify that a little more.

[31:04] So the resultant action was the village of Lake Oregon sued the petitioner, sued him personally.

[31:13] Okay. And the county. Then it went to Circuit Court and the Circuit Court said village and DDA attorney

[31:22] in township paternity go away, okay, but it caused the citizens close to $20,000 in legal

[31:30] fees because I'm a majority of the bill is council that like the petitions for the way

[31:36] they are presented. So there was never any fact finding by a court that either position

[31:41] was legal. With the results, the court did, we are here to talk about this

[31:52] rumors here, I didn't submit any rumors to anybody.

[31:56] I reported factual conversations with our citizen petitioners and factual conversations

[32:02] I had with the county, we've heard reasonable explanations from the village attorney

[32:09] and the village manager, but they're not rumors, okay?

[32:15] And so there are serious questions, and I appreciate you answering them, I'd like to

[32:22] to know that August 11th or 14th is the deadline and so there are only so many motion calls

[32:29] at the circuit court before those dates where if they decided to not put them on the ballot.

[32:35] So if they drag us out and don't put them on the ballot, it'll be too late to legally

[32:39] challenge them.

[32:41] I want to make sure that the village is not involved in any legal processes, we have the

[32:52] to be put to rest. So we're hoping that things will move along as we would like to see them.

[33:03] So I have two more questions. So when the meeting of the county election board or whatever it is, do we know when that is?

[33:13] I did reach out to the director of elections to ask because I could not locate it on the website, but I have not received a response.

[33:19] I'll make sure that the council is aware when I do get a response or when I figure it out.

[33:24] Okay, so we'll know when it is.

[33:26] Yes, perfect.

[33:27] And then my second question is, is it appropriate for, like, me to go sit in on that?

[33:37] I mean, I need to make sure we don't have a core on there.

[33:40] But otherwise, it's an absolute, it's absolutely an open meeting and that's perfectly permissible.

[33:45] And I fully intend to be there as well.

[33:47] And if I had to speak, would I be speaking on behalf of a resident or would I be speaking on behalf of the village council?

[33:56] If you address in public body, I'm sorry, in public comment, the public body of speaking as a resident.

[34:03] Okay, thank you.

[34:07] I think my only comments are a little bit similar, you know, we heard that the term conspiracy and we heard, you know, this cost money too to have our village attorney here, it's costing taxpayer dollars.

[34:18] And concurring with some other comments that we did our job, we voted to take no action

[34:24] that is according to state law and the legal parameters and it's moved on further in the process.

[34:32] We are not doing anything to try to block that to try to do anything but there are independent

[34:36] other entities that we have no control over in a voice or say in and so it's a little bit frustrating

[34:43] that we're spending our village attorney dollars on something and we have no control over

[34:47] from here on out.

[34:48] I understand there are some questions,

[34:51] but, you know, similar to some other comments being

[34:54] said for every question, if we have a special meeting and have our attorney come for every question

[34:59] that becomes a lot to there, are going to be a lot of questions, but the village council also

[35:04] chose to take no action.

[35:05] That means we did our job, that we listen to the voters, we listen to the citizens, to put

[35:10] on the ballot, and we don't have any control over that at this point.

[35:16] That's up to the township, it's up to the election board, and so I was a little confused

[35:21] on why we were having this meeting because we've done what we've, but this is this is

[35:27] as to ask us to do, and so to ask you all to come up again, to come here, to take your

[35:34] time, time away from your family's, time away from, you know, your dinner, your plans to come

[35:40] in here the same thing that we've listened to and we put it out about as a little bit frustrating

[35:44] for me, knowing that there's nothing else that we can do and our authorized to do and should

[35:50] do when we've done the process. So yeah, those are my comments when I hear about the attorney

[35:56] fees and different things like that. We're greasing text for your dollars to pay for this too.

[36:00] I have one more comment.

[36:02] As we've all do respect.

[36:05] We're doing this because we want the citizens to know what's going on.

[36:09] And I don't really care about dinner tonight, or any of that, or the taxpayer that

[36:14] is going to be attorney that's who we're paying him for.

[36:19] This is a question as to how it is being handled.

[36:23] And two of the council members called for this meeting.

[36:28] And we should be allowed to do

[36:33] that.

[36:34] Mr. Park.

[36:37] Look at what's been put in front of us tonight, but I'm not sure everybody else has.

[36:45] The purpose of the meeting is to spell rumors in the first one.

[36:50] Those major in the village attorney addressed their involvement once we made that vote.

[36:56] And it was that them just doing their due diligence making sure that the

[37:00] concept knows, and that's where our role ends.

[37:04] We can't influence the meeting, that the meeting, they have that all the information

[37:09] at the election committee.

[37:12] We can't influence that.

[37:14] They act independently.

[37:15] They're going to do what they're going to do.

[37:16] And we can't necessarily influence that.

[37:19] By attending and stating in the opinion.

[37:23] The second thing, the spell rumor, the council is fully in the special meeting in an effort to reverse the direction of...

[37:31] We created that, by saying, by having us meeting, is everybody thought that this meeting we're going to change things. We didn't have the meeting that where we wouldn't even happen.

[37:43] I agree. It's a, I think people are here thinking that we're going to change things. And that's wasn't the case all of them. And I don't.

[37:52] I think some people took it too much on themselves to take it further when the administration

[37:59] did their job, turning it to their job, and we shouldn't be here to make.

[38:05] I know public comments.

[38:15] So just for the information, this is the Julia of the, sir, at the township.

[38:23] Did you file with election commission?

[38:25] 30J July 23rd, 2026 at 256 p.m. So it's any questions. It's been filed for quite a while.

[38:34] This is the way I see it.

[38:37] I believe that we have a village manager and a village attorney that is

[38:41] meddling into this ballot proposal.

[38:45] None of you gave them any permission to look into any of this.

[38:49] Okay? And the way I read the law, you guys allowed it to go on the ballot.

[38:53] the township has nothing to say about it, they have nothing to say about it, and the county

[38:59] probably wouldn't have gave them a rat to ask you if they wouldn't have gone near and

[39:01] cost a problem. For both of them, the conflict of interest, one news is a job, one news

[39:07] is the planet. So I want you to really think about what they did, because they won over and

[39:12] rub with what you guys allowed them to do. Thank you.

[39:21] Thank you, Christy, 635 Central Drive. You know, it's unbelievable to me that we're here

[39:27] number one, and that you folks who are supposed to represent us were unaware of these other

[39:34] processes that we have to go through, the steps that we have to go through.

[39:38] We should have been told that the last time we were here, you could have said, hey, we

[39:42] can only go so far, but then we have to go to the township, then it has to go to the county.

[39:47] But no, here we are again.

[39:49] And once again, who's picking up the tap, us the taxpayers, we're paying these attorneys, we're

[39:55] these people to be here. It's ridiculous. It's totally ridiculous. Get it together. This is

[40:03] the way it's been for 49 years since I've been here. 49 years of nothing ever being done

[40:11] properly. That's why we're in this position. That's why we don't want a village any longer. Thank you.

[40:23] Anyone else for public comment?

[40:28] Seeing none? Item?

[40:30] Go ahead.

[40:39] I appreciate the clarification of tonight's meeting.

[40:42] I do not look at it as a room or situation.

[40:45] You're educating the citizens as to the process that's happening.

[40:50] And I appreciate that.

[40:58] Seeing no other public comments on it.

[41:01] We have no action to take on this agenda.

[41:03] I don't saw item number six is called to the public on any item.

[41:09] See, then I will close call to the public and item seven is the motion to adjourn.

[41:13] Motion to adjourn.

[41:14] Second.

[41:15] We have motion and support on a favor.

[41:17] I oppose meeting adjourn.

Village Council Special Meeting 8-3-2026

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