Agenda
[27:54]
ROLL CALL
[27:47]
CALL TO ORDER
[28:19]
Acknowledgement Statement
[28:39]
Recognitions
[38:21]
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
[39:29]
CONSENT AGENDA
[44:20]
OFFICIAL BUSINESS
[44:21]
Transition from Standing Policy Committees (SPCs) to Community Issues Committees (CICs)
[1:19:10]
Professional Development – Police Commission Training Modules
[1:23:57]
Advocacy Regarding Provincial Funding for Dialysis Patient Transportation
[1:33:50]
BYLAWS
[1:50:17]
Bylaw 6510 – 2026 Incentive for Prepayments, Penalties, and Tax Deferral Bylaw
[1:52:29]
Recommendation of Assets and Infrastructure Standing Policy Committee - Bylaw 6508 - Repeal and Replacement of Bylaw 6049 - the Municipal Naming and Addressing Bylaw
[2:18:13]
ADMINISTRATION PRESENTATIONS
[2:29:33]
Whoop Up Drive Speed Reduction
[2:35:14]
ADMINISTRATION SUBMISSIONS
[2:35:16]
Employee Staffing Statistics
[2:36:43]
ADMINISTRATIVE INQUIRIES AND RESPONSES
[2:36:46]
8-Way Flashers on School Buses
[2:36:57]
Improving parking and accessibility for those with disabilities who wish to attend Farmers Market at the Lethbridge Trade & Convention Centre
[2:38:19]
CITY COUNCIL UPDATES
[2:39:19]
CONFIDENTIAL REPORTS
[5:18:01]
Intermunicipal Matter (ATIA Sections 26 & 29)
[5:18:35]
Intergovernmental Relations Matter (ATIA Section 26 & 29)
[5:19:13]
Public Member Appointments to the 2026 Boards, Commissions and Committees (AITA Sections 20, 22, & 29)
[5:20:02]
City Manager Quarterly Check-In (Verbal) (ATIA Sections 28 & 29)
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ADJOURNMENT
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Thank you. Councillor Wolfe.
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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I had the privilege of attending Operation Christmas Stocking Project.
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Last Friday with my daughter to help with their Christmas Stocking Project at the Buffalo Grace Manor.
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It was great to spend some time with the residents there. And they had some very, very beautifully stuffed stockings that go out to other residents and other communities.
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It was really neat to see. I don't want to take too much because I'm sure Deputy Mayor will speak about it.
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But it was really, really neat to be with the Council General of Dependence of Other Honor Guests at the Bloomberg Center for Q&A.
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It was a great day. And we were well represented there by the Deputy Mayor. Thank you.
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Thank you very much, Mayor Higgin. Certainly, yes, I had opportunity to bring greetings from the city at the Nikki Yuko Human Rights Day event.
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There were a few of us there. Thank you again to Dr. Ertmiki and Chief Medizade for sharing your stories so that we can continue to champion quality and ensure every voice in our community is heard and respected.
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Congratulations to the YWCA on this year's gala over $150,000 was raised through silent and live auctions, all of which go to directly to supporting women in crisis.
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Also, congratulations to Grace, could you read the recipient of a star's Alberta Volunteer Award every Tuesday for more than two decades. Grace has arrived at LPS ready to serve in her role as a crisis support worker with the LPS Victim and Witness Services Unit. Thank you Grace for the work that you do in our city.
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And I also want to thank the Southern Alberta Ethnic Association for having me host their holiday traditions around the world event on Saturday night. We had a fantastic turnout and the food again, the performances were great and the food was amazing. So I always appreciate that event.
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Finally, I just want to give out a shout out to Cindy and the team at the Chamber for hosting the Grassy Mountain Project update a conversation with Northback CEO Mike Young.
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A number of us on council were at that event and while these aren't easy conversations to be a part of, it's important that we have them. I understand that the Chamber receives some and will call them harsh emails for hosting the event.
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And I'd like to just take the opportunities to remind all of us that these discussions are opportunities for constructive dialogue, and this instance was an opportunity for participants to understand the process and how we can participate in it.
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So again, thank you to the Chamber for its work in our city and for hosting these events. Thank you.
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Thank you to my far right, Councillor Reaver.
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I just want to take a moment to express my condolences to the Southern Alberta Lepers Jewish Committee community for the unspeakable tragedy that happened in Australia last week.
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And there's just so much hatred in this world these days and with Christmas coming, you know, I just hope everyone in the city can show some kindness to each other, respect to each other regardless of your religion, your race or anything else.
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We need some peace and we need some harmony and we need some respect. And what happened over there resonates with everybody, I think around this world regardless of how they feel.
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And again, my condolences go out to them and this Christmas season, everyone, please show a little kindness to each other. Thank you.
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Thank you, Councillor Beaver, Councillor Grossan.
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Thank you, it's great to hear so many of the events. Following up on the human rights day, I was able to do a private tour for Dr. Art Mickey and his family at the Gulf Museum and Archives.
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It was a wonderful opportunity to go in depth into some of the conversation.
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Sandra Joyce Fairburn Middle School has been named a finalist in the 2025 CBC Music Class Challenge. So fingers crossed that may move ahead in that.
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All eight arts council receives from our leftridge community foundation, a grant and they are launching LLite Arts Council sounds around that will give local artists and arts groups access to professional, professional grade, portable sound equipment for three that they can use for concerts and stuff to help the local arts community.
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If you're not an LLite Arts community member, consider doing it. I don't think you have to use the equipment, but it's absolutely amazing.
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Stop the bus. The city's own holiday bus was out at the same on foods. Thank you to everybody who donated to that on the weekend.
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And of course, the holiday train was in town. I represented the city at that. So I was able to ride a train across the high-level bridge. I'm sorry.
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Bucket list checked off. I mean, how awesome to be on a train on the bridge. That was absolutely amazing. Bear naked ladies was an amazing concert.
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But even more important, our leftridge food bank received an $8,000 check that night from CPC and a full van of food donated by local residents to support their fellow residents in this community that was absolutely amazing to see and to be part of that.
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And I want to also show it up for a birthday race speaker. X member of Parliament turned 90 on the weekend. And so I just want to say happy birthday to race speaker. Well deserved 90 years of working in the community.
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Thank you. Councillor.
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Thank you, Mayor. It was, I have only one experience to share. It was a really privileged to attend the Mayor for your breakfast.
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That was my first time, of course. It was a great feeling that knowing that the community is praying for a good governance, not only for the city but for the whole province and Canada as a whole. That was really a great opportunity and experience for me.
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Thank you, Councillor Parker. I just want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas to Happy Holidays.
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I know a lot of people are going to be traveling over the next few weeks. I just wish safe travels.
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It's only our Council staff, but more also the community. I just heads up, drive carefully and have a great Christmas season.
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Thank you, Councillor Parker. Many things. It's been extremely busy these past few weeks leading up to Christmas.
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I had the opportunity of participating in a mad check stop and glad to be able to say that nobody was was pulled over for being blowing over over the limit and so it was good to be able to see that the community is doing
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best to not drinking get behind the wheel of a vehicle. So it's great to be able to see that.
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While acting mayor was at watching Bernie good ladies, I was the band.
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I was at the mayor's Christmas concert. That night it was a dividing conquer. All of us had something going on and it was very busy evening.
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I was there with the silver and gold band as well as Fleetwood Bodden School, so conductors Ryan Hazelstein, Mark Ward and Tia Castello.
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She was the coarser for the conductor for the Fleetwood Bodden School Choir and Mark or Councillor Campbell, you're missed, but you're replaced well.
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Yeah, did a very good job and it was a very busy and so it was a great event and it really kicks off the Christmas season.
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I know there was some voices that were above the rest of course would be Councillor Dodick's grandchild's two grandchildren. I guess that were there.
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A participating as well and it was as a sold out show there and so it was great to be able to be there with that group.
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A shout out to the rotary group of Lathbridge. They put on a Christmas dinner for the seniors each year and it's a there's about 400 that attend this event and not just to the rotary but to the city.
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The city that does transportation and helps arrange some of that so these seniors can get to this Christmas party.
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So it was great. Appreciate the work that they did there and with that just as Councillor Parker mentioned,
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a Merry Christmas and a happy new year to all and be safe out there.
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Move on to the adoption of the agenda.
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From Acting Mayor Croson be a result of the agenda the regular meeting of city council on December 16th,
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2025 we adopted as amended to include the following 4.5 on consent agenda item of urgent business from December 11th,
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2025 economic and finance dining policy committee, 2025 September operating forecast.
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Are there any other changes?
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Yes, Mayor Hagen. I believe you were going to add a BCC matter, a verbal confidential update and that would be item 14.6 and that would be as per sections 2029 of the access to information act.
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All right. So 14.6 a BCC matter. I'll be added as well to the agenda and with that Councillor Croson.
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I can be a Croson sorry.
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Let's adopt this agenda. So call the question.
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Questions been called. All in favor.
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And that passes. Thank you.
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Next from Deputy Mayor Schmidt Rempel.
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Consent agenda be a result of the minutes of the following meetings of city council be approved and the mayor and city clerk be authorized to sign the same city council meeting for 2025-202
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And further we resolve the city council receive the information the status of directed resolutions from 2025-2016
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And further we resolve that city council approve the recommendations contained within the following standing policy committee reports 4.3
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Recommendation of governance standing policy committee CC-23 Parkland and roadway special event and film.
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Be a result of the city council approve the amended policy CC-23 Parkland and roadway special event and film as provided in attachment to with following amendments.
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Number one in the purpose statement strike the words film and replace with filming and number two in the policy statement ad the words to support filming after events.
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4.4 recommendation of governance standing policy committee CC-33 historic places.
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Be a result of the city council approve the amended policy CC-33 historic places as provided in attachment to.
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4.5 proposed urgent business recommendation of economic and finance standing policy committee 2025 September operating forecast.
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Be a result of the city council approve the funding in the amount of $1 million to come from the real estate holding reserve for the purpose of.
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For the purchase of the property and related maintenance expenses located at 427 staffer drive south.
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4.6 14.4 recommendation of audit standing policy committee KPMG audit planning report.
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and i. t i a section 28 29 30 31 32.
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Be a result of the city council accept the information.
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The report as information.
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And that the closed meeting discussions documents and presentations remain confidential as per section 28 local public body.
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Coven it is 29 advice officials 30.
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Information harmful to the economic interests of a public body.
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31 test procedures.
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Test and audits and 32 privilege information of the Access to Information Act.
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ATIA. For the brief results, the city council provide first reading to the following bylaws 4.7 by
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last 6509. Land use bylaw amendment for 110 sunrige road west and bylaw 6511 downtown business
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improvement area tax bylaw and bylaw 6513. Land use bylaw amendment for 91515 street south.
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And for the brief results, the city council recommendation to hold a public hearing on Tuesday,
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January 2026 at 3 p.m. for the following bylaws bylaws 6509. Land use bylaw amendment
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regarding 110 sunrige road west and 6513. Land use bylaw amendment regarding 915 15 street south.
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And for any questions, I would like to have one of them pulled. If we could and that's 4.4
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recommendation, CC33 historic places has provided an attachment to that we pull. Any other questions?
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Okay, Councillor Mayerable. Thank you very much. Just a couple of corrections.
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Item 4.5 is coming from Mayor Higa. So we need to add an end on the end of his name.
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If we could do that, please. And then a correction to 12.2, the chamber event was
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what now for Canada, as opposed to what not for Canada. What not for Canada?
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And just one quick second. I just want to make sure that 4.4, the one is the one that I was
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had that jot it down. I just want to make sure that's the one.
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My apologies. The one I was looking at is actually on an agenda item 7.2. So my
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apologies is I will not pull 4.4 unless somebody else wants pull 4.4.
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All right. With that, so Deputy Mayor Schmidt-Rempel.
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If there are no further questions or corrections, I will call for the vote.
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The question has been called. All in favor. And that is unanimous. Thank you.
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All right. Move on to official business motions and we'll start off with 6.1. And to my colleagues,
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this has been updated. So I believe everybody does have the new OBM sent to them as well as
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been updated on the public site. Is that correct? Madam City Clerk? Yes. Thank you.
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So I'll start by reading it and then we'll go to questions. So from 6.1 from Councillor Beaver, Councillor
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Lizes, standing policy committees, to provide focused oversight, policy review, and recommendations to city council.
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And whereas each SPC is composed of four voting members of council, resulting in direction being provided by a limited subset of council, even though all members may attend and participate in discussion.
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And whereas council has identified that this restricted voting structure can limit full council involvement in shaping policy and responding to community priorities.
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Whereas council desires to modernize its governance structure to ensure all members of council receive the same information concurrently and can participate meaningfully in a focused issue driven environment.
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Whereas the creation of the community issues committees will allow all members of council to participate fully in discussions engaged directly with administration and review matters of community importance in a transparent and collaborative setting.
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And whereas CICs are intended to provide enhanced opportunities for community participation, enabling residents, stakeholders and organizations to bring forward perspectives, information and concerns, during focused discussions on issues of community interest.
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Now, therefore, be resolved. The city council. Number one, amend the procedure by law.
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The city solicitors directed to prepare amendments to the procedure by law, removing all standing policy committees and replacing them with a single community issues committee in accordance with this resolution.
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And number two, amendments to the procedure by law and amendments to the procedure by law will ensure the following.
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A mandate. The CIC will have a mandate to enable full council participation, ensure all council members receive consistent and timely information.
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Create structured opportunities for broad community participation on issues brought forward for discussion.
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And governance framework, the amending by law for the procedure by law should ensure and include a framework for CIC operations, including mandates, roles and scopes of responsibility for CIC procedures supporting full council participation and administrative support.
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Meetings procedures, public participation guidelines, reporting procedures and transparency standards.
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Processes for receiving scheduling and managing public input during CIC meetings and that the agenda review committee shall recommend which issues and topics ought to be referred to a community issues committee.
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Ensuring matters brought forward our appropriate for full council community engaged discussion.
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Number three, administrative updates, administration is directed to update all official records, schedules by laws and public facing materials to reflect the dissolution of.
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SBCs in the establishment of a CIC and further bring back or bring back for consideration by council any further required amendments to council policies or by laws necessary to implement the structural change.
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And I'll open it up for questions.
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And I see there's no questions so who'd like to open debate.
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You have a question?
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Okay.
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Go ahead Councillor Schmetreville.
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Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor.
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So certainly I appreciate the focus on providing enhanced opportunities for community participation.
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And I'm just wondering if one of the movers can help me understand how you see the switch from SBCs to CICs working.
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So how would these be themed would there be a social and safety CIC help me understand the vision in what the difference is.
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Will members of how how will members of council be more fully able to participate compared to the current structure and more able to directly engage with administration compared to the current structure.
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How is this more transparent and collaborative around matters of community importance compared to what we currently have.
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All right.
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Councillor Dotic.
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I think I can answer that.
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The current structure is that we have essentially six SBCs, economic standing policy committee, civic works, SBC community safety, SBC cultural and social SBC.
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The government's SBC and audit SBC the last five are have four members.
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Economic standing policy committee has all members of council.
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So the purpose of this effectively is an obnibus CIC or an obnibus community issues committee, which is a consolidation of all of the former SBCs being the ones that I mentioned.
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The intention, at least in my mind, is to have them on off Tuesdays.
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So what would happen is that all of the issues that are brought before those six SBCs would be brought and all the information would be brought to all members of council.
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So you're not going back and forth and saying, well, let's refer this to the governance of the governance as a two to vote and it comes back and all sorts of things.
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So what you're doing is simply amalgamating all of the committees into one which contains all members of council and sometimes they may be a longer Tuesdays, but everyone will know that a Tuesday is the day that we're going to have these meetings.
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Nothing is taken away. All that is happening is that you're adding all members of council to all those SBCs in an omnibus community issues committee.
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Yep, no that does. Are there other questions in the queue? Okay. So talking about making Tuesday the day, when were we, how is this going to take away any meetings that we currently have so currently we are lined up for 2026 to have.
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It's.
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20 before we got the new motion it was 27 meetings, but we weren't in the math I was doing we were just barely meeting the 27 meetings that all public could engage in.
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And right now with removing the other SBCs and moving them into an SCIC, we would not be meeting those 27 engagement opportunities for the public. So how would we make up those lost meetings for the public engagement.
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Because for me, it needs to either meet or exceed the number and of meetings for public engagement with the public.
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Well, I'll let the other members of this answer they want to add to as well.
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The reality is that a by law has to be prepared before this comes into being so for the timing nothing will change.
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Part of the changes to the procedure by law will have to have changes with respect to the calendar. So everything stays as is until the by law is passed if it is passed.
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And all of the meetings that you're referring to can be subsumed into the omnibus CIC. So anything that has been scheduled for.
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Well, into the future for the governance will go into the CIC on the Tuesday and whatever issues come up the agenda committee can refer to the CIC.
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So it gives you in my view more opportunity for the public to be engaged and can be engaged on the number of issues because they mean want to speak on a couple things that are happening on that CIC.
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You have a very fixed date and which is it's going to be happening. So the council, you know, the public doesn't have to check the schedule and see what's happening. Oh, it's cultural and social. No, that's not what I want to go out in the governance they know and they see the agenda.
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All in one package and we all get the same information and we all get to make the same recommendation is to council.
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And that's basically it.
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Okay, I'll step over for now. Councillor Parker.
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And thanks for the question and dad, did that if you look back, we we cancel a lot of SPCs because there's nothing even on the agenda.
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I think, you know, if you look back last two years, I think 12 or 14 meetings have been canceled just for a lack of issues.
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And so I also like that if it's going to be on Tuesdays and and correct me from wrong to Mr. C manager.
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We usually as council or CIC, we usually keep Tuesdays open. If we do have a meeting where we have six or seven issues or topics.
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No, we could also start at nine in the morning. Could we do something like that and go a little longer throughout the day.
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Can that happen?
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Yes, I don't, I don't see any reason that we couldn't make that work.
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Perfect. Thank you.
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Councillor Crosson.
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Thank you Mayor Higgin to any of the colleagues who brought this forward.
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Do we still see the consent agenda existing?
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Because the problem with the past CICs is we had an entire meeting and then we just had the same meeting over again the next week.
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So will the CIC still have the consent agenda?
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I don't see any reason why it wouldn't because if you're making decisions at the CIC, which is basically an omnibus SPC, you'd make the same recommendations to council.
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They'd go on the consent agenda and can be including the consent agenda all pulled off at the same time.
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I think what people have to understand is that everything that we have now in existence will still be in existence.
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So all of those SPCs will simply be rolled into one where all members of council are there to receive the same information as opposed to getting information to four people.
[54:36]
And then getting that information passed on to council to make a decision.
[54:41]
And just to add to that as well is right now the consent agenda.
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Many things are pulled from the consent agenda on our rehash because only four members sit on that standing policy committee.
[54:52]
Again, all of us can attend, but that's the reason why I have seen them pulled from the council consent agenda.
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However, with the CIC having a consent agenda after CIC, I can't see many of those because those same people are sitting around the table that are making that recommendation to council.
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So I think that would actually you would have you would have the consent agenda in my mind and that's what we'll be working on.
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And it just I don't believe there will be as many items pulled from that to be rehash because everybody is there for the for the initial discussions.
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Not sure why I was saying okay, thank you for putting me back.
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Thank you.
[55:29]
Secondly, are we looking at moving CICs to the evening because the public has actually requested that we move of some of the meetings to the evening.
[55:36]
So is it possible that CIC actually be a five o'clock start.
[55:41]
Have any of my colleagues who brought this forward considered that is something we should be discussing.
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I'm actually going to look to Ms. Mitton as I know she has the information related to this.
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Thank you very much for the question in the comment.
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Administration would be cautious around evening sessions, although we want to be able to engage with the public and that might be the right time for them.
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We would be getting into employee overtime.
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Some of our union agreements will not be working past six p.m. as well.
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Just be a consideration.
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But it is also.
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And a question for the city manager or designate.
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Probably Mr. Loan.
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How long to rewrite the by law with if this motion passes.
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When we saw the motion on the agenda and then when I saw the amendments I had a good discussion with my team.
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You'll see Mr. Foster in the audience and we're confident we could have a draft by law making this in effect ready for the January 20th meeting.
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It's a city manager is willing to relax our internal January 9 deadline for finalized submission.
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And if not, then it would be the next council meeting after that.
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Thank you.
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Ask that by the queue right now.
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I just want to clarify what that means for a gender review committee.
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That means you might not have it in time for a gender review committee.
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It would be coming in hot on the fly just before the meeting.
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Thank you.
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But still, it would come in all council to have the opportunity to look at those changes.
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Well, that's what the city solicitor tells me.
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So, yeah.
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I'm going to leave him to.
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He says you can do that.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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So under the previous CIC system public attendance was permitted, but individuals couldn't simply step up to speak on a matter unless it was specifically or unless it was a specifically arranged session,
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which means that public engagement was kind of ad hoc and not built into the process.
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Well, public participation in the ability to speak at CIC's be built into the process on this.
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I think that was the idea was.
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Since you have all the SPCs rolled into one the intention, at least my understanding was to have public be able to engage in the same fashion as they're able to now with respect to the respect of SPCs.
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Okay, so we're we're changing and not modeling specifically the old CIC.
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We're we're doing.
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Help me understand.
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Yeah, that's what we're doing with that.
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That's correct.
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Maybe the name CIC is is the wrong name for it.
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Maybe it should be something like often to miss committee of council comprising of all of these, you know, something like that.
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The intent was basically to just have everything rolled into one, not model the old CIC.
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I agree that that's that model doesn't work, but this one would be just allowing the public to speak to whatever issues come.
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To this committee, well, by whatever name it's held so it's not CIC is on the malagamation of actually the SPC system and the old CIC.
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So one meeting to handle all issues to have all council present to get all of the information at one time.
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Okay, so following up on that, have we not considered doing an SPC CIC combination structures, so Regina and Saskatoon utilize those kinds of models.
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Had there been discussions with those cities about how their models work and how we might be able to do a combination of both SPCs and CICs.
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I see that's a distinction without a difference.
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The reason being that again, maybe it's the use of the word CIC that's confusing.
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I think what we're really trying to do is just have all of these SPCs dealt with at one meeting.
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Public and talk. We can ask questions.
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We can make a referral to city council, and that's how it works.
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Any further questions?
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If nobody else is in the queue, I do still have a few questions for clarification.
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So would this committee then have any delegated authority?
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I'm going to explain a little more about.
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In my opinion, seeing this when the bylaws, we've written it's going to be similar to what the SPC is.
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So it's going to be rolled into one.
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So I can't see there being any difference there.
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Councilor Doris?
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Yeah, you know, the reality is the way I see the agenda working is that if there's an economic SPC component to it, it'll be economic SPC.
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And then if it's a governance component, it'll be marked as governance agenda items and so on.
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So you'd have potentially six different items on the agenda, but each one broken down as to which SPC or former SPC it dealt with.
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So if there was, say, for instance, because as councilor Carson just pointed out, economic SPC was able to delegate a spend of funds.
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How would that work under this new model?
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Well, it would be still operating as essentially as an economic SPC because it'll have the same authority.
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Now remember that there'll be a bylaw prepared and so all of those questions.
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Maybe answered in the bylaw.
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And then if there's certain changes that need to be made amendments and things like that, that can be proposed and voted on.
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Okay.
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Any further questions?
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Oh, yeah.
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Okay.
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Go ahead.
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So another one of the issues with the CIC structures that there was quick turnaround from committee deliberation to a council decision.
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So in some instances, that was just a few days.
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One of the consequences of that was short public notice.
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Are we going to be able to overcome that issue?
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So for instance, will the re at least one week public notice mirroring the current policy for council's agenda is be put in place.
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And would this also include the public's ability to submit detailed reports and presentations slides?
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Well, this all of the SPC agenda items are going to be going through the agenda review committee.
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So there will be the ones to be in a position to set those terms and the dates or whatever.
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Depending on what comes in because it can speculate right now what's going to be coming in.
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So a government issue might have a different time frame involves and cultural and social might have something else.
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But again, I think that's something that's going to be addressed in the bylaw or if it's not, it could certainly be proposed.
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What we're trying to get to again, I don't want to.
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Well, I am belaboring the point is that we're keeping everything just putting it into as the city magical, maybe a committee of the whole.
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You know.
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So that's the intention is not to take away.
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It's in fact to enhance and the enhancement really comes down to all members of council are members.
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That's that's the idea of this so that we're all getting the information at the same time.
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That's very simple.
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And then are we going to commit to a formal review of this after implementation so maybe a formal review of it to see if it's working and see what we need to change six or 12 months after implementation.
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And what metrics are we going to use to evaluate transparency efficiency and public trust in the new CIC system.
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Well, I look forward to seeing the amendment to the bylaw if that is not included in the bylaw which contains those provisions and.
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I suspect that I'll probably be compelled to vote in favor of it.
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Got you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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All right.
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It's no further questions and so I'll turn it over to debate and Councillor Park.
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Did you want to start debate.
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Sure.
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Thank you, Mr. Mayor and thank you for the questions.
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I want to first of all thank the City Courts Department as well as the City solicitor and his department for helping me craft this.
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As well as members the sponsor members they brought up some good points and perspectives.
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I also did reach out to all members of council know if they had any questions or anything regarding that.
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They had ample time to bring those questions forward to myself or to in the movers.
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Mr. Mayor, I'm asking for support every placing our current standing policy committee structure with a more effective and inclusive model.
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The community issues committee committee composed of all members of council.
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I emphasize all members of council.
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This transition is necessary to report restore transparency and prove accountability and strengthen democratic participation in our policy making processes.
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Under the SBC review.
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Key debates and policy shaping occur in smaller committees that with what fewer residents sometimes follow.
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By moving to a single community issues committee made up of all councilors.
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We ensure that every major discussion happens in one public form.
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The full community can observe policy development and nothing significant is decided outside the main council table or nister in this word CIC.
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Equal participation for all counselors.
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SBC's give disproportionate influence to counselors assigned to specific policy areas.
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A committee issue committee that includes the entire council ensures equal participation.
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Equal representation and equal opportunity for all counselors to shape policy from the beginning.
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Eliminating bureaucracy and reducing delays.
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The SBC structure creates multiple layers of processes that slow decision making and increase administrative workload.
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A single community issues committee eliminates unnecessary steps and creates a simpler, faster, and more accountable path for decision making.
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A unified committee strengthens public participation.
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Residents often struggle to determine which SBC to bring their concerns to.
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A unified community issues committee centralizes all public presentations.
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Ensuring that every council hears every concern directly and making civic engagement more accessible.
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A single committee encourages holistic integrated solutions.
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Most common community issues span multiple policy areas.
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SBC's divide them into isolated silos.
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A full council committee allows for integrated thinking and more comprehensive solutions.
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Reinforcing council as a central decision making body.
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The SBC model shifts too much influence to subcommittees.
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A unified community issues committee resenters council as the primary space of discussion.
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Collaboration and democratic accountability.
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Replacing the SBC's with the community issues committee composed of all members of council will increase transparency.
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Restore equal participation.
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Reduce bureaucracy.
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Improve public access.
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Strength and policy making and reaffirm council central role in shaping the future of our community.
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The reason why I brought this resolution forward.
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Mr. Mayor and members of council more importantly.
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I've been on both sides of this.
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I see now the CIC which could be changed and can be made even better.
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And I've also been part of the SBC's.
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After looking at both of them.
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I say this to Councillor Dora.
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Councillor Wolfe and Councillor Bieber.
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Of course you haven't seen both sides of it.
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You've reported on both sides of it.
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But I also you have to remember is a lot of committees.
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A lot of community groups.
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Would really really embrace this.
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Too often they don't they feel like they're almost stone wall.
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They don't get to talk to council.
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They have to talk to it through a committee.
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So what a better way that having a CIC so we can become more well informed.
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And later on make decisions at the council table.
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For those reasons alone I'd ask for council support.
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Thank you Councillor Parker.
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Councillor Campbell.
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Thank you.
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In my opinion everything that you've argued for is something I argue for for what we're doing right now.
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SBC's to me this is not this is not something that is broken.
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We are we are doing these things that you say that we're not doing.
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And for me the SBC's because they they're on specific topics.
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It gives more time for questions expert input and clarification.
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And to me that reduces rush to surface level debate at regular council meetings.
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And I believe in the smaller focus settings.
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Encourage residents to speak.
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You know instead of the big huge CICs that could happen.
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And it also helps as far as with councillors.
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It helps to distribute the workload a little bit more effectively.
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And I also it can reduce burnout somewhat and efficiently.
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And to me it's all incumbent I mean as far as all all councillors having all the information.
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It is incumbent on all of us to be aware of the meetings and to find out the information.
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And again we make the decisions based on the four people that are SBC's.
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It comes forward to a main council meeting which again can be brought out.
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And then can be debated again at major council, especially when there's major decisions to be made.
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And and to me I think we're doing that.
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And I think there was a lot of work that went into creating the SBC's.
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And I do believe that is been working I personally.
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I I like my positions on SBC's.
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I like I like where we're at with it.
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And so I am against going to the the other other direction.
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I think we we've we've improved what we had.
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So this is that's where I feel about.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Council beaver.
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I think council parker for all the hard work.
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He's brought in to this all the points he's brought forward on this.
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I too had concerns about the SBC's which is why I reached out to council parker after our last council meeting.
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I talked to him about ways of streamlining.
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The process because while we as council members certainly do get the information.
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It's important to have context to that information.
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Why it's incumbent on councilors in my opinion to watch what those is going on those meetings to follow them.
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And by hearing the dialogue and the discussions and you get a better context of this.
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And my support for this was supported or increased a couple days after that.
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When I was at a board meeting that I've been appointed to and members of the board felt the SBC's.
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Or stonewalling them they felt that there's a they're dealing with a brick wall.
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When they talk to the SBC's and so I bring in these community issues and matters to council as a CIC.
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I think we are providing better governments and we're providing streamline governance.
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I want to thank Mr. Parker again for his efforts to bring this forward.
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Mr. Dodick for his eloquent discussion about this thing and I definitely am going to be supporting it.
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No further debate and Councillor Schmire ample.
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Thank you very much and I certainly thank the movers for for bringing this forward.
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I I definitely appreciate that.
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I don't recall a time when and how council identified that this current structure was restrictive voting structure that limits full council involvement.
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I want to remove an item from the consent agenda is available at the time of council meetings and that item can be redevaded with a different outcome.
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For instance we did see that this past year with the code of conduct discussions in January as well as with LDE reporting a march.
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I see the potential for overloaded meetings and agendas loss of specialized focus and expertise duplication of work for councilors and staff as well as any other unintended consequences.
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I'm going on into what costs might be.
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Do I think the SPC process needs to be improved upon?
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Absolutely. I think we need to improve upon our timing and getting groups to the SPCs as well as through to council.
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So I certainly see that and I'd like to see us improve that process.
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But I don't see a need to move to this.
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I think we could add CICs which was something that we had discussed before.
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I think we could add CICs to the agenda.
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But I don't see a reason to make this whole sale change.
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Thank you. I would be surprised that it did not support this being helpful sponsor it.
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I will definitely support this. A couple of things that really stood out to me and what hasn't been discussed thus far was how often I'll get a call or we'll see in the media that a council made a decision.
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Actually, it was standing policy committee that is doing a recommendation to council.
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Is that going to change it with the CIC?
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It's still going to could be that question.
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However, when I talked to media there, was that a decision of council?
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Was that actually solidified and you're moving forward with that?
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I know it gets recommended to council and council many times.
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We see Senate back to a committee and then the committee has to wait another six weeks to get back on to council.
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It could be put back again on to excuse me to committee.
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So it's timelines that seems so much longer to be able to get through processes.
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And so I support greater transparency.
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I support all members of council being a part of the committee.
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So of course, I would support this motion.
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Councillor Dotic.
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Councillor Crosse.
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All I really want to say is this is very inside or baseball.
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I don't really care which way we go.
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There's so many more important issues that this council needs to be working on.
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We need to be a great deal more strategic and moving on.
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I'm not sure if I will support this or not.
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But it's not the biggest issue that I think we have.
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As long as we can keep something that still makes sure the public can be heard.
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I would prefer evening meetings.
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I see that work way more effectively in other communities.
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I want to make sure we keep the consent agenda.
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All the things that SPC's brought forward to the table that worked really well.
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I will be going through that bylaw with a fine tooth comb to make sure it is there.
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But quite honestly, I don't think it's going to make any difference to the public one where the other.
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This is inside or baseball.
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Just get on to more important things.
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Councillor Dorek?
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Yeah, I don't see it quite the same way. In the most of my debate was in the answers to the question
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that we're given. But I think going this road, if this passes, it's a little
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love for a more efficient use of administrative time. It'll be more efficient use of
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our time. It'll give the public more opportunity to speak on more issues. The SPCs I've
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been involved on have been cancelled as has been alluded to many times, at least with the
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committee as a whole or wherever you're calling this. We will have some items on the agenda,
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whether it be all of them that incomes the six SPCs. Nevertheless, there will be some
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items so less like we could of cancellation. I believe this is a strategic move. And I think
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the best part of it is that all nine of us are involved in the decision-making. And if we set
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on off Tuesdays, then we have a very, sorry, the public knows when we're meeting. Council this
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week. Council as a whole CAC or whatever the name is on the following weeks. And the agendas
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will be one agenda. May have different subheadings, depending on what we're dealing with. So I
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whole already to leave support this. Thank you, Hender Clothes. Councillor Parker. Thank you, Mr.
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Mayor. Thank you for the comments. I think for clarification, when I said, I spoke to other members
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of council. I sent an email to all members of council. I think I sent a, I think I sent a, well,
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I'll have to check that up then. Thank you for that. But I think, and if anyone did have any questions,
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it was, it was advertised. But I'll have to double check that. Okay, I'll have to double check that. Thank
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you. There was a comment regarding, this is going to add a lot more time. Staff wise, not that. Right now,
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when we have three, I'll thank you. Quite often, when we have these SPCs, I do believe that we
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ask our administration to show up. They have to book off time. People like Mr. Sanchez, Mr.
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Matthews, Ms. Claysonyer, Ms. Minton. So, and then we have you book off. We have a meeting for a half an hour.
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And then, or we have council meetings. And you do all this planning behind the scenes to see
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the coast where I'm going to do an amazing job getting all those SPCs set up just for it to be canceled.
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Just for it to be canceled. So, really, if, now I think about it,
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whenever I've selected to be full time in some members of council, kudos to people like
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council across and it puts a lot of hours in, in which I greatly appreciate and the community does.
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I know you put a lot of hours in. But I also believe Clayson, like Ryan Wolfe, councilor Wolfe,
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has another job he has to make a living. And when he books off a Thursday or a Wednesday, Wednesday,
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and he comes here for one hour. He goes, what hour for this? That's great. But you know what?
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I've booked off. I have to make a living too. But if I know I have consistency on Tuesdays,
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where I can book off the appropriate time to tackle all the issues, it makes a lot more sense,
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a lot more effective. So, for those reasons alone, and I appreciate the comments of my colleagues,
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even the funds that we're in favor of it. I would just ask for your support and I'd call the question.
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All right, uh, I'd run to that by roll call madam city clerk.
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Councillor Campbell, opposed. Councillor Dodick.
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And favor. Councillor Doria.
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Councillor Parker. And favor. Councillor Wolfe. In favor. Acting Mayor Krosen.
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In favor. Deputy Mayor Schmidt Rumble.
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Opposed. Mayor Hagan. In favor. In Councillor Beaver.
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In favor. That passes. Seven to two. Thank you. Thank you.
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Moving on to official business motion. 6.2 from Deputy Mayor Schmidt Rempel.
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Whereas the City of Lathbridge is established in municipal police service under the Police Act,
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which requires creation of a municipal police commission and whereas effective governance of
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a municipal police service requires roll clarity consistent training and in form participation
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by both council and commission members in order to support accountability oversight and public trust.
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And whereas the City of Lathbridge is committed to strengthening council governance practices
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including council training and professional development and support of transparent decision-making
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and effective oversight and whereas the honourable just in Oregon's 2525 final report of the
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2025 investigation pursuant to section 30, 1.2 of the police act recommends in part a comprehensive
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training program for new Councillors regarding police commissions including the functions of
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police commissions and the role of municipal councils with respect to police commissions and
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police services and whereas municipal government requires that municipalities provide orientation
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and training for Councillors at the beginning of each term and whereas a public safety and
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emergency services provides online e-learning modules for municipal council and police
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commission members. At no cost in these modules are currently being updated to reflect
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recent amendments to the Police Act and associated regulations and whereas on December 13th, 2022,
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that for City Council passed a motion regarding council members complete the police commission
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e-learning modules as part of their professional development for the 2021 to 2025 term.
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Now therefore we resolve the City Council's recommendation to register all council members for the
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police commission e-learning modules as an optional professional development training opportunity
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for the 2025 to 29 term following the release of the updated modules by public safety and emergency
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services in 2026 for questions. Councillor Wolfe. So just so I understand we want the city
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admin to register folks and then they will optionally complete the course at their discretion.
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Yes. So could we just allow people to optionally opt in and optionally complete that their
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discretion and just avoid admin? Well no administration has to register us for these.
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Okay. O council members cannot register for for it?
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Yeah, you have to do that. I already did it.
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No, it's optionally. This is so we had this in place for previous council,
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administration registered all of council to participate in this as an option.
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It's optional professional professional development. For all members of council,
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this is just exactly the same motion. As last time, two register,
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left-bridge city council, for these police commission e-learning modules as part of professional
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development. If you want to do it, you can, if you don't, you don't have to up to you.
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I think it's great. I was just curious to know that I didn't realize I thought before I was able to
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register, I couldn't register without admin registering. I mean, yeah. And it's your register.
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Okay. She has my chance. And they have the access to do that.
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Okay. All right. Councilor Dominic?
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Did someone ask the question, what happens if I don't register?
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If you, you were registered last time and nothing happened when you didn't complete the modules.
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Oh, I feel something happened. Okay. Thank you.
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Councilor, yeah.
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We will be registered by the admin. And then it's our,
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since it's an online, it depends upon our availability. When we have to open the module to start the,
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to start the lessons or the session.
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It's up to you and learning at your own opportunity. So administration with register, you send
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you the link. You do it as you can do it. Okay. Thank you.
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I see no further questions to open debate. Councilor Schmidt-Rempel. Do you have any of my
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report? No real debate to opening our closing on this. It's just a continuation of exactly what we did last
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time. I think the motion speaks for itself. I would hope for my colleagues support on this.
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And I question them and call all in favor. And that's unanimous. Thank you.
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Actually, I'll I'll turn this over to Councillor Schmidt or Deputy Mayor to read the motion.
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So this is an official business motion from Mayor Higgen advocacy regarding
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provincial funding for dialysis patient transportation. Whereas the left-bridge regional hospital
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is expanding its dialysis unit and will increase its treatment capacity for dialysis patients by 40
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percent in 2026. And whereas this increase in treatment capacity is a tremendous benefit to the
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left-bridge community and the government of Alberta's commitment to patient first care. And whereas
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this increased treatment capacity will create additional demand for reliability transportation,
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reliable transportation to and from dialysis appointments and whereas the full benefit of this
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expansion cannot be realized without reliable affordable and medically appropriate patient transit.
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To ensure new dialysis spots are fully utilized and whereas the left-bridge accessoride is a community
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paratransit service provided and funded by the city of left-bridge and whereas to uphold accessibility
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and equity municipalities that provide public transit service must provide paratransit service
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at a fair equivalent to fixed route transit and whereas this constraint on paratransit
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fair results in greater public subsidization for this service than for fixed route transit service
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and whereas the AAR service is operating at full capacity and cannot absorb the increase in dialysis
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patient transport demand without adversely affecting paratransit service availability for other
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users with mobility needs and whereas access to renal dialysis treatments is a life-sustaining
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medical necessity requiring patients to attend treatment multiple times per week without interruption.
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And whereas insufficient access to transportation can lead to missed or delayed dialysis appointments
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resulting in serious health repercussions, avoidable emergency visits and preventable hospital admissions
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all of which could increase strain on the acute care system and whereas there is currently no
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dedicated provincial funding for non-emergency patient transport for dialysis patients in Southern
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Alberta and whereas establishing such funding would improve patient safety, reduce emergency
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department, utilization and help prevent hospital admissions linked to missed dialysis treatments
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and therefore be it resolved that the city of left-bridge that left-bridge city council
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authorized the mayor to write a letter to the Honorable Matt Jones Minister of Hospital and
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surgical health services requesting provincial funding to help meet this anticipated increase
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in demand for acute care medical patient transportation will be not for questions.
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Councillor Dodick?
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Yeah, when you see you're asking for funding is there an amount or is just for funding?
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It's for funding because as far as the number goes we have we're really appreciative that we are
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expanding a renal dialysis program at the hospital. However, there's stretched in on transportation
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there and this with this being a medical procedure that is being done the comment is that if it's
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medical and it's emergent which they see that it is that you should be taking an ambulance but thank goodness
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most will take our regular transit and assessor ride. The problem is is assessor ride is kind of
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person at the seams as far as is participation and we are needing additional funding to either expand
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that or to have a program that would would help those that are needing to get to dialysis on a regular basis.
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I guess what I'm really heading is if the letter crosses my desk and it says they give us some
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financial funding to meet this increase. I mean the first question I would ask is how much are
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they asking for? It's just sort of you wonder where these letters end up if they don't have an idea
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of what you're asking for. There's a big difference between $100,000 a million and $10 million. Is there any
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idea what we're talking about in terms of funding? I know we've looked through this before and I don't know
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if it's if it's a Sanchez. If last time we had spoken with this group at the hospital I think we had said
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how short we were on. I thought there was a number that we had and I don't know if Mr. Matthews or Mr. Sanchez
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or or no that's okay if there's a number that you had or because I don't know what that number is. It was it was just
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something as I see this program is getting ready to open up and I'm concerned so I thought we'd better
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bring this forward pretty quickly. So Mr. Sanchez I don't know if you have anything so already put you
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on the spot there and as far as a number but I know we've had these discussions before.
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So to have a number it depends on the on the situation, how many patients that we have we have been
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working with AHS for a while so I will say that this will be an opportunity to sit with the
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minutes that at least to start that conversation and in the past we have a conversations with AHS where
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they will pay for some of the shuttle services to do this work when you look at a one shift for access
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a ride is roughly around $300,000 a year when you do one shift to provide the services but in terms of
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capacity when we have the pick hours they use 90% of the services. So to put a number a dollar amount
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it depends on what is the need at that time so it's not an easy task or what I will again if we send
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this letter is just to start the conversation to engage them to define what is that level of service that
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we're going to provide so we can actually put a number on the day. And maybe it is to ask for a meeting to further
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discuss and that may be the opportunity that we're looking at here because it seems to me that
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if this gets to an attention they're going to want an idea of what they're talking about. I understand
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what you're saying you want to start a conversation about the numbers but it seems to me just from
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My perspective is that you better have that number in mind or some number up, you know, it might be the high end and number just so that if they call and say, oh, by the way, what were you thinking of? So those are just my comments.
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No, I appreciate that. Thanks so much, Councillor Cotic. Councillor Wolfe.
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Thank you. So maybe four, Mr. Sanchez or for for you, sir, do we have any precedents in the province where this approach has been taken to go back to the province and they've helped with solutions,
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whether it's just, you know, hey, we all reimburse for every ride that's really to this or we'll just provide funding for an extra shift.
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Like, do you have precedents that we're going after that we would like to see repeated here or we just, are we being pioneers?
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I think this is part of the discussion why we need to bring this forward to the minister so that he can let us know if there's other communities that are currently using that service or if there's non-medical transport that they're using in other communities.
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So I think that's part of the discussion. I don't know if that's right.
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Yeah. Thank you.
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Councillor Merembal.
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Thank you very much and thank you for bringing this forward.
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Would the intent on this be to expand accessoride access for all patients because we know that there is a shortage for accessoride service right now as we've returned to regular levels?
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I know we're just addressing this with dialysis treatments, but would this be to return,
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or increase those service levels for accessoride for all patients?
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That's a great question and I'll go to a question that I received from a community member that was struggling booking transportation to a particular location that she was going to.
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So it's because of how many requests come in, we're definitely going to have to expand it.
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Not just for this is the only reason we're expanding it for is those that are needing a transportation to the original hospital.
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But moreover, a full opening because that would give us a better opportunity to have more available space for those that are doing other activities.
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And I know this one particular person had had reached out to me and said, well, mine is life life threatening.
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I'm not going to the mall to do shopping like some others and I said, well, but still, that's still a service that is provided and that's what our service as transit is to provide that service.
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Ars is not for medical transportation although it's it is used if it's non medical to get to that service and so it's a real it's it's a conversation needs to be had because it is it's much deeper than then it appears on the on the outside.
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So definitely expansion for for all in that and we just don't have the dollars to continue moving forward right now as far as expanding it without causing a cost to taxpayers.
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So this would be your start. This absolutely.
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I see no further questions. Well.
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Open it up for debate.
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Thank you. I think pretty much all those were as is my apologies to my colleagues that's a lot of ware as is, but I think it pretty much says what we're looking for, but I will I appreciate the questions that came in and this is a start of a conversation that is should have been done sometime ago.
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When we knew that this facility was coming to town and how that was going to affect assessor rights. So I would just ask for council support.
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With that, I will call for the vote.
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All in favor.
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Any opposed.
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Thank you.
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Okay, so I'm looking through some of the bylaws that we have coming up there may be a lot more discussion on them and I wanted to know if my colleagues need to have a break a biobraker something for a few minutes.
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So look around.
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All right. Okay. We'll have a break here. It's 143. So very 155 if we back. That'd be great. Thank you.
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All right, we'll continue on here. As we are just a couple minutes beyond the allocated time. So we'll move by law 651-0 from Councillor Beaver,
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226, incentive for pre-payments, penalties and tax to throw by law. For a second reading, be it resolved by law 651-0, 26 incentive for pre-payment, penalties and tax to throw by law, be given second reading, Councillor Beaver.
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This by law allows taxpayers who aren't on tip the option to pre-pay their 26 taxes and receive a 1% discount on pre-payment, and it has little impact on.
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If you have any questions, I will call for the vote and Mr. Zain discussion.
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Just a question for Mr. City's solicitors, I'm looking over.
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As the director of finance doesn't have any effect. Matter of fact, it does help those that are, we use those funds.
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I guess if we have those funds, we're not losing anything from a city's perspective. That's my question.
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Thank you, Mayor Higgins. So in regards to, in regards to the pre-paid money we're doing on that. So basically what we do is we do pay a portion of here you can see it's 1%
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inside of the document here for anybody that does pre-paid components. We do factor that into it all went to everything.
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Of course, when we get the funds, we invest those funds and that investing of funds, there's a differential between what we potentially would receive.
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And you know, in the marketplace and so forth versus what we pay out.
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So to answer a long story short, yes, we don't lose any money from the point of view of what we do in the 1%
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Great, because we do it best that. Thank you.
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Any further questions? If not.
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I will call the vote. Question have been called all in favor.
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And that is unanimous. And for a third reading, be resolved by last 6510, 2026 incentive for prepayments, penalties and tax referral.
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By the given third reading and the mayor and city clerk, be authorized to sign and seal the same counts for beaver.
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I will call the vote. Question have been called all in favor.
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And that two is unanimous. Thank you.
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And from Councillor Campbell from Assets and Infrastructure Standing Policy Committee, recommendation of Assets infrastructure.
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Standing Policy Committee by last 6508 repeal and replacement of by last 6049 municipal naming and addressing by law.
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For a first reading, be resolved by last 6508 repeal.
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And replacement of by last 6049 municipal naming and addressing by law, be given first reading.
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And a question I have for Madam City Clerk, there's no discussion on first reading is that correct?
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I believe you can discuss. It's not something that you usually do, but I don't think it's in the procedure by law.
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Maybe I'll reach over to city solicitor if there's questions on first reading.
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I know of no legal reason, not the typical practice is not to vote something down on first, so that it allows it to be tabled and debated.
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If rezoning by laws in particular, there's some case law to indicate the council should let an application, at least go to the public hearing and that might be what we're thinking of.
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Okay, so the first is not a rezoning by law, there's no applicant here.
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All right, because yeah, if we're looking through the possibly I'm seeing of three readings here today, that would not get any public input.
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This is what I'm seeing if it goes to three readings.
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Okay, Councillor Dotic.
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Yeah, I just have a question regarding the by law itself in particular paragraphs four five and six.
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The paragraph four says the city manager has the authority to administer the civic addressing system through the creation of a municipal names committee for the city and may subject to provisions with this by law.
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Do all sorts of things and then the city manager has authority under five and six.
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But is there did I miss something is there somewhere in there that says.
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There's a requirement for the crew, Asian of a municipal names committee or.
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Isn't there because the way for read seems to suggest that the city manager has the authority.
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Is this through a municipal names committee, but there is nowhere in there that I see that there's a requirement for a municipal names committee or am I missing something.
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Might be a glance for that help.
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What's the legal mind hearing.
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Yes, and the municipal names committee is the defined term for what is essentially a working group of city admin so it's about empowering the city manager to establish working groups.
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To get the best minds on it to allow the most efficient effective service.
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I understand that but it says the city manager has the authority to do that it doesn't say must exercise that authority so this seems to be a gap there to me as to.
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What's happening or not is the intention of the by law to have the city manager.
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Create a municipal names committee to do all this stuff.
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That is the intention if that's the intention in in my opinion, that's not what the by law actually reads it's just simply says he has the authority to do it doesn't say he's required to do it that way.
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It seems to suggest the city manager on his own can do that.
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I would agree that the city manager is authorized and then it's a form of in a sense of delegation to the municipal names committee and along with that is.
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Internal admin policy and procedure that gets into details such as give my question then is he required to create a municipal names committee.
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I don't think he's necessarily required.
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Okay, so we can do all this stuff on his own if if Mr. City manager chose to.
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All right, that's.
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Well, okay, well, then I'll just leave it there. I believe there's a gap in the legislation there as to what we're doing and that I just wanted to point that out.
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Thank you, Councilor Wolf.
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This I may just be asking for a point of clarification when we discussed this.
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This is a by law in our committee meeting.
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There seemed for me there was some I was not clear as to whether we have current buildings that are requiring a name and we spoke a little bit about the Japanese center.
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So to someone tell me that no we don't have a backlog, no those buildings have been named.
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Which then means we don't have kind of like a we don't have names in waiting, but we are actually like up to date on officially naming buildings.
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Who might be able to answer that.
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Thanks for the questions so after talking to Mrs. Gary we do have one request that is still pending for the name and this is the request that has been standing for a while this is the Japanese garden.
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So we're waiting for this to be approved.
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Completed to proceed through the process to do the naming of that building.
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Okay, and then my other question is sorry, I read through this I couldn't find out are we still dealing with the proposal to have four subcommittees involved with this naming process.
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Yes, that's correct part of the administration process is we're going to have sort of four subcommittees.
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This subcommittees will be for experts on each one of the categories it doesn't mean that an item will need to go through all four committees it will go only to the committee that relates to the ask that is being done so that's.
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It's a way to streamline the process and I'm going to spend a little bit further.
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And and just to add a little bit more to that further provide context.
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When we think of committees here in council we're likely thinking of formal groups and processes and chairs.
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These are these are named committees because they're groups of individuals, but they are working groups and there's not standing committees the reason the schedule of when they're going to sit.
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It's just basically a roll of acts of names of oh here's an issue with a historical impact.
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Let's get those with that knowledge base into the room to weigh in the.
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And the naming piece can be kind of the.
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The marquee issue in this bylaw, but day to day the work that this bylaws going to be doing is on the naming of streets and new developments in assigning addresses.
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That is the day to day workhorse responsibility of this bylaw and there was a bit of a gap in the previous file that.
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It had the authority to name buildings unless it went through a public process, but there was no clarity on what that public process was or when that public process was required.
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So it's tried to fill in some of those gaps from the previous one, but the day to day business is going to be.
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A few handful of developers and planners dealing with new residential and subdivisions.
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Thank you.
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So I question.
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What would have on this is we get 40, 50, these a month, no, right? I'm just saying there's probably one every year or a couple a year.
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My question is, it's not about name and 18th Avenue or third avenue south or or something along that line from what I understand. This is something that could be out in the community, a request in the community.
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The new way would not give council the ability to vote support, not to have that discussion, but to support yes or no on the moving it would just the naming it would just move forward without council have an any input if this follows. Who is that correct?
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For the most part, public buildings don't go through any sort of a special naming process. We have the Stafford Center on Stafford Drive where we have business units working out of.
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That's not, that's mostly what is meant to be captured from the of the municipal names committee. There is a section that provides our four council to offer commemorative naming.
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So any ask for a commemorative name could come to council and that's someone that they want to establish a long term name there is a political or community aspect to it different than say what.
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The administration's really going to be using it for which is the the day to day operation of facilities fire hall five could have a.
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So all they're doing there's there's no.
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For example, a dotic drive they wouldn't be looking at that or anything this is this is just strictly regular current.
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Bill things or whatever that.
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Like I'm just I'm just trying to figure out the difference between and I went through it and I can't find what the difference of before.
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To now and does that take away any input from council in the future so that I think the difference in responsibility.
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There really isn't any in minutes if you if you don't pass us by law today administration is still going to name new streets and addresses and still has an authority to name buildings.
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The tricky part under the existing one was it was named individuals and positions in a schedule.
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Whereas those named positions aren't necessarily the ones with the information to make the decision and it.
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As an as conducive to getting the right people in the room to provide the right information to make an informed decision on some of these and again those are those are the issues that are going to be coming from the outlier asks.
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Rather than the day to day use of this and we have there is also some clarity about what sort of the expectation for applications to council for commemorative name which was unclear before.
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All right, so nothing's going to be. Okay, Councillor Crosse.
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Thank you Mayor Hagan. Either you or Ms. Gary how long is this committee been around.
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I'm thinking decades at least.
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So the municipal naming committee again mainly used for naming new subdivisions and parks probably been in existence for 30 years.
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The issue we have is with renaming. So there was no process for renaming anything and so that's why this particular by law and policy and procedures makes it much easier for staff to then process for quests.
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So, but the committee has been there. It's been doing their work on that normal side of simply providing names.
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Have there been any real controversies in the 30 plus years that the committee's been around.
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No. So it is now the building part and there is a mechanism built into this that if council said good heavens.
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The city manager and administration did something wrong here or we have a better idea council has the right to override it and bring forward a commemoration if they wish that's correct.
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So the final power in this naming sits with council.
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But the day to day work is at admin correct. Okay. Thank you. Thank you Mayor Hagan.
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Thank you. Thank you. Councillor Wolfe.
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I understand you're probably like why is he like on this or is he so interested.
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I guess what I'm trying to in my newness trying to understand is we have a location which I believe is the gardens.
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In my understand it's been waiting for over a year and a half to get a name.
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How is this going to fix that and the next person that comes to ask me for a name will it take us a year and a half to tell them yes or no.
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So there's a couple of nuances.
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There is naming and there is renaming. Okay. So when building is named so for instance, Miss Clay Singers Community Services Department does a new facility.
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And as part of that CIP project when they're building the facility that goes extremely smoothly. There's no issues whatsoever.
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When something is renamed that was where we didn't really have a policy in place.
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One of the reasons that it took us as long as it did to come up with the policy procedures we did is we looked at what other municipalities are doing for all kinds of naming.
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I'm sure it doesn't surprise council to know that using people's names for things lately has become a bit of a flash point.
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And so we wanted to look at best practices what is the best way to do this.
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There is an indigenous component to all of that.
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It was very complicated in terms of looking at all the regulations and that's how we came up with the subcommittees in terms of there's expertise that should be allowed to give us their.
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feedback and their best opinion for each separate sort of incidents that we had. So we did spend a lot of time figuring out what municipalities have done that works well.
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And where they run into issues because we didn't want that to happen in these cases.
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Thank you. So your vision going forward if you were to have up to four subcommittees, which I understand would only be used on a committee by committee basis, but now we're thinking what for turn around time.
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On a new name. So our municipal so a new name. So that's interesting. Okay. Sorry. Are we naming.
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So the meetings can be called fairly quickly. Once council approves the by law.
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Then what our city manager and ELT will do is actually look to general managers to find members for these basic subcommittees.
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They can be called, I mean, usually it's two weeks notice to get a meeting in somebody's calendar and then depending on which specific category of falls into.
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Some of them may take a little bit longer because of the research that's needed.
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So for instance, commemorative or indigenous naming may take a little bit longer than something in terms of just a facility.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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I wish I would say as more identified than I was before we start speaking, but I don't know if that's true. So thank you for the questions and for the answer we've heard thus far.
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So I will read for first reading from Councillor Campbell.
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Be a result by last six five zero eight repeal and replacement by last six or four nine municipal naming and addressing by let me give in first reading Councillor Campbell.
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Thanks back.
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We learned about this naming process.
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And you know, ultimately what happened for those who were there that the Japanese gardens, bunkers and wanted to be renamed to commemorate someone very important with that.
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When we went to get the name there was no by law in place. So that was the impetus of trying to get a by law so that we can we can have a way to get those done so that's what this is all about.
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We repeal what was there we figured out a way to actually turn it around faster and that's what we're doing today.
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And this is the first reading of that. So with that I will call for the vote.
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This is this is first reading.
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Okay, this is first reading. So that debate you take a second if sorry.
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Okay first. All right, so just remember what I just said. So first reading call the vote first reading. I think I'll do by roll call madam city clerk.
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Councillor Dotic.
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Councillor Doria.
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Councillor Parker.
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Councillor Wolfe.
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Acting Mayor Crozen.
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In favor.
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Deputy Mayor Schmidt Rumpel.
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In favor.
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Mayor Hagen.
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Opposed.
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Councillor Beaver.
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Opposed.
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And Councillor Campbell.
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That carries five to four.
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So on to that's for first reading get on the table now for second reading.
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And where the debate does happen that we had thus far.
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If there's any additional questions on this or or you're for debate. Councillor Dotic or questions.
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You're on debate. All right. So I think we heard the opening debate. Is that fair to say Councillor Campbell?
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I think I think just to simplify the naming process. They're not.
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They don't get these a lot. There's not a whole lot of issues about it that as we have heard.
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This is just simplifying the process and with a by-law in place.
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And they can create the committees for it.
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You know the city manager can intervene or not. And ultimately we can still come to council.
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But I think this is the simplification of a naming process that we should have.
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Councillor Dotic.
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Yeah. I voted in favor of first reading to put it on the table.
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And so that I could vote against it in second reading.
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The policies and processes are going to be put into place after the by-law is approved.
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And I would think that that's where some of the gaps that people are having issues with get filled in.
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Unless we want those specifically in the by-law.
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Councillor Wolfe.
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The questions been posed as to whether council would have some kind of final input.
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And maybe the question should have been do we get any input?
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And I'm not disparaging anybody's work through this process or anybody's efforts or this process.
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But at a year and a half at what point this council get to say something here is not working used in.
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We need to figure this out and get this done.
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And I don't know that what is being presented to me satisfies me that that won't continue to be this situation.
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No further debate. So opening closing. That's it.
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Councillor Campbell.
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And I guess we will do this by roll call madam C. Clerk.
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Councillor Doria.
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Thank you.
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Councillor Parker.
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Councillor Wolfe.
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Oost.
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Acting Mayor Crosin.
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In favor.
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Deputy Mayor Schmidt Rumble.
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Mayor Hagen.
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Opposed.
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Councillor Beaver.
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Opposed.
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Councillor Campbell.
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In favor.
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Councillor Dotic.
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Opposed.
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That's lost.
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Fortified.
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All right.
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So they'll read for a third reading.
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All right.
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All right.
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From Act of Mayor Crosin.
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We'll up drive speed reduction.
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And I'm sure there's going to be a few questions here.
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But it is just to be a resolve the city council receive.
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This presentation has, I know.
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I have for an information.
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We're going to call up.
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Joel Sanchez to speak to this as well as anyone that you have that is going to be joining you.
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Excuse me, Mr. Sanchez.
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Okay.
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Thank you for the time to do the presentation.
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Today we have with us online.
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Mr. Amadaleed is the transportation engineering manager.
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To answer any questions that council might have regarding the Google Drive speed reduction.
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Item.
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Next slide.
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So we want to give council a quick overview on the changes that are taking place on the
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Google Drive review of the corridor has been completed over the past few months to ensure that
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we align current trends and the situation at the Google Drive regarding the speed.
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And as a result we're recommending that a 70 kilometers per hour speed limit being implemented on
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Google Drive.
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It is an admin decision.
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It's part of the design review that Mr. Amadaleed and his team have completed.
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And a administration has taken the decision to move forward with the change to enhance a road conditions
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of the safety and a safe system approach for the corridor.
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Next slide.
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When you look at a mobile drive.
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One of the factors that was considered is that these road has.
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Approximately 50,000 vehicles daily crossing the corridor.
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With the high volume of traffic it increases the rear end collisions.
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There are conflicts and lane changes when the weather is also during the wintertime.
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We have more chances for collisions.
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So one of the elements that was looked in terms of making the decision.
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Next slide.
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This corridor also has a narrow shoulder with it.
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When you look at a mobile drive specifically between.
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The bridge decks in between the is found in Westbound.
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We have shoulders that are somewhere between 0.8 to 1.2 meters.
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A narrow shoulders make it really hard for drivers to react and have a chance to avoid collisions.
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And they can also drift laterally having minimal recovery distance to avoid any contact with other vehicles.
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These efficiencies are not consistent with a 90 kilometers per hour operating speeds.
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Next slide.
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Concrete jersey barriers on both sides.
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Again, this is especially applicable between the bridge deck.
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Having concrete barriers in both sides, limit the ability of drivers to react and to have another
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way to avoid a collision. Defective clears on is essentially zero. There is now for giving us a
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roadside area for any air and vehicles to recover. Within the shoulder being less than 1.2m,
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disabled vehicles may partially occupy driving lanes, which will create an unsafe conditions for
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drivers resulting on rear end collisions or fatalities. Next slide. Using a safe system rational, the analysis
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was completed to see what was the outcome of reducing the speed from 90 to 70 kilometers per hour. By reducing
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the speed, there is a 40% reduction on the impact energy or the consequence of a collision.
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A rigid barriers and aerosol, shoulders and steep rates can create an unforgiving
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cross-section for the corridor. A 90 kilometers per hour common driver errors will result in collisions
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with high severity crashes. A 90% kilometers per hour to barriers and impacts can have a high kinetic
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energy outcome. Reusing the positive speed to 70 kilometers per hour, we will also allow
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us to, as we mentioned before, to reduce the results of the collisions by 40%. Next slide.
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Another element that was also considered as part of the decision is the steep rates during
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orbit drive. This is especially more evident in the winter conditions. It takes longer at 90 kilometers per
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hour to stop and by reducing the speed, we are trying to minimize the effect of a crash
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on passengers and drivers across the corridor. Next slide.
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Safe system rational. So basically this slide, what it demonstrates is, if you travel, the corridor
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is 2.7 kilometers from N to N, it will take a 90 kilometers per hour, a minute and 48 seconds.
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At 70 kilometers per hour, it will be 2 minutes and 19 seconds. So a total difference of
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roughly 30 seconds to cross this area. This marginal travel time causes proportionally small
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if we compare this to the expected reduction in collisions of a very deep and frequency.
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Next slide. So in summary, based on the review of the geometric constraints, the roadside design,
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current trends, and even in consultation with all the stakeholders, LPS, the fire department.
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We are implementing reducing the positive speed to 70 kilometers per hour, and this is in place as we
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speak today. And with that, I open to any questions and we also have Mr. Ahmed Ali here to answer them.
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All right, Councillor Dotic.
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What?
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His questions been answered. Well, that's a great job. Councillor Farker.
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Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Sanchez, and to your team for taking opportunity to take
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questions and present in public. My first question is, what this presentation be available online.
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So people who do have questions, especially the so-called traffic engineers online,
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and through social media, have an opportunity with us beyond line.
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That's correct. The presentation is part of the public agenda. So he's online, and we also last week
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did a media event where we had the opportunity to talk about the decision, the rationale,
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and that it was being presented to council for information today. Thank you.
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So first, the kind of a comment then tied into a question. Is it fair to say,
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for what I'm thinking is we all, I love on the west side. The west side is growing. It's the
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fastest growing area of the community. And people will say, while it was 90, and we never had those
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accents, because if fair to say it now, we have just so much more traffic going to the west side,
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more vehicles, increases the odds, increases the risk, especially at 90 kilometers are, is that correct?
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That's correct. And that's part of the rationale when I mentioned the 50,000 vehicles per day that we
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have on the courtyard. But we have a lot more than we did 10 or 15 years ago. Absolutely. Okay.
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Some people have made some action. It's funny. You know, it counts for Campbell Mox,
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me. I'm an expert listening to the experts. And so I always help people who might
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to question the traffic engineers, the police service, because they know what they're talking about.
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But some people did make up a good point. I'm going to have to be breaking consistently when going
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down the hill. I'll have to be breaking, whereas if you just kind of let your vehicle glide down the hill,
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what it just naturally gets to 90, but what it would be a constantly, would you constantly
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breaking or that an issue? So that's a good question. My answer will be that depends on the driving
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habits or how fast that you're approaching the corridor. If you're coming at a higher speed,
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yes, you will need to use your brake constantly in order to maintain that speed. But if you're approaching
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the woop of drive with a reasonable speed on the off ramps, or even coming down from six
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avenue, or the west side, if you approach that at the speed limit of 60, 70, that it is,
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the brakes will need to be applied no doubt, but not as much as if you're coming at a high speed.
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One of the main things that we also consider when we did this work is not different. I'm going to
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use an analogy that is good. We have explained that to people when they have asked the question.
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When you're coming on a high way three, that's the same rational way the high way three, the
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speed goes from 100 to 80 and then a 70. And it's again based on the on the rational of
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narrow shoulders, and part of the work that Mr. Ali did also was in working for reviewing those
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standard from the attack communities from Alberto Transportation and all the groups.
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Mr. City, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. City, Manager, is it Council's role to set speed limits?
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In this case, this authority lies with the administration.
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I'm sorry.
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To your question, in this case, the authority lies with the administration on this.
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Thank you. Some people online have going by online because it's interesting. Just so you know, things
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have calmed down a little bit. Touchwood, is it our role as or should there have been an ability
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for community consultation since this is an administrative decision? Is it kind of unlikely or
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unheard of to have community consultation in regards to something like this?
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Again, yeah. So unlike what you might hear on other speed limits in this case, because of the
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factors that, and I'll go back to, let's say the last 50 or 60 years vehicles that didn't
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have seat belts didn't have airbags, and what was acceptable one time as we gain more information on safety
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standards and so forth. This is just engineering. In fact, and we have a traffic engineer as a PhD
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and engineering online, that comes to the experts that weigh those factors and make the decision.
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Thank you. And I appreciate all the answers in my last question if I may.
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To the mayor is people say, well, this was always in the grand plan. The city was pulling a fast one
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overnight and they did this. Obviously, you guys did a full analysis. This wasn't brought on by
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something that you saw during the construction. There was this something that you've been thinking about
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quite a while. So I will start and I will leave Mr. Alie to add anything else, but I know the team
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has been working over the last few years in transportation safety plan. That safety plan includes
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measures to reduce collisions to increase safety and is part of the the review that we do in
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water specifically was based on the collisions that we have had fatalities. We had even had fatalities
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over the last few years. So again, bringing back the safety topic of mine, that's the rationale that
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we did this. And it's part of the work that we're going to be doing across the city to enhance not only
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drivers, safety, but also by the students. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Sanchez. And just to confirm
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Mr. Sanchez, the city of electric does not only company that replaces people's breaks as I've seen,
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right? Is that fair to say? That's correct. That is correct. Thank you, Mr. Alie, you're not your laughing.
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I know. All right. Sorry, Councillor Crosson. Thank you, Mayor Hingon. Thank you very much for the
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information. And this is just being provided for information to counsel as it is in a mendicition.
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And we can't tell you whether to do this or not, I mean, but we also can't control the police.
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But can you tell me, has this been discussed with the police? Are they on side with it? And again,
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they're under the police commission. But do you know if they have plans, have it been reported to? Do
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they have plans to change their work on this hill? Thank you for the question. And,
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sure, answer is yes. We have work with both a left-rich police service and fire and emergency
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services in implementing the changes. We had engaged with them because one of the main
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things that we need to do is not only change in the speed limit, but it's also to enforce this to
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make sure that people abide by the rule. So we have been meeting with them in terms of doing the planning
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of the enforcement. And we have next year, other plans to in terms of doing some data analysis.
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After the change was implemented, are we seeing any trend? Are we enforce in how many people have been
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fine? Or can we increase, which will be the primary goal? The education and outreach for the public is
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how we can ensure they know this, but absolutely LPS is involved. And we're working on the next
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measures that we could bring back in the future if need be. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you,
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Mayor Higgins. Thank you for that, Councillor Pugger. Thank you very much. Obviously, when you go down
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the hill, and I know Councillor B. Reel of the West Side of the West Side, a few of us, I think
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may you, I don't know exactly. But anyway, when you go down the hill, we all see little signs too fast
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and a little like goes red. And when I go down the hill, I see a lot of red. Are you guys keeping
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there's a lot of data. There's a lot of data. Are you guys recording the compliance at this time
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through those machines? Can you do that to those machines? They're fair that to me, so I leave online.
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Yes, we can. You can and are you? Yeah. Okay. We haven't done that, but we can't
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simply collect the data. Yes, we have to give a good idea of doing that. My follow-up to that isn't
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thank you. When it was 90, human nature, you see some people. When it's 90, people go 110.
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So then people go now, it's probably even if it's 70, people are going to be going 90. So in regards to
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obviously, we can't put forward a radar there. Based on the provincial legislation, am I correct on that?
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You can't put any forwarder radar there? Unless you're getting an exception from the province,
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based on safety or accidents, amount of accidents on a road, you cannot. Because the question
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I'll be asked for the community is, if you're going to do this, are you going to enforce
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that follow-up on Councillor Crosse and saying, have you spoke to the police? And I will let them be,
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we're not in the position of talking about the police to do. That's a separate body under the police act.
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So those are just some of these are some of the questions that I've gotten personally.
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Questions, I'm not going to ask every question I see online. Otherwise, just whatever.
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But did you want to add to that? Just to add, that's why I say we're going to meet after a few
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months in order to do an analysis of that data. We know we have those sensors. They make sure
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how many people or what is the average is paid, vehicles that are going through the corridor.
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Then working with LPS, there might be a chance depending if based on the information that we have
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right now, we could apply for the to the province to have an exception based on the number of accidents
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that we have. But does the word that is not our decision at the end of the day will be LPS working with the
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city in order to provide with all the details on the information. And just for the record, I don't endorse
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or support. I'm just asking the question regarding the photo reader. Thank you.
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Thank you, Councillor Beaver. Yeah, I'm just wondering if there's going to be any analysis or if there's
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any concern about Westside drivers going to Highway 3, increasing the number of monotrific on that
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route across the river instead of using will buff drive in the slower speed limit.
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Yeah, we can get the data. So we have the data from the province and we can definitely
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compare it after a few months. The province collects the data continuously 24 hours. So
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and we do also collect the data on a group of drive and we can compare and see if there is any
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behavior and a change and a change of the people. Thank you, Mr. Rally. Just to follow up on
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Councillor Parker's question, there is, you can change the speed limit. But of course, I'm hearing that,
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you know, I'm going to speed limit and people are flying by me. So of course, that in itself is dangerous.
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So to further question it again, not being someone that is in support of a photo radar and I'm sure
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that's be the sound bite that we'll get for tonight. However, that is something that you said is
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being looked at doing just to be able to keep those travelers safe. Is that right? Is that, yeah,
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hear that right? That's correct. Right now we're doing a manual enforcement without the S but we're also
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exploring the possibility to approach the province and and request for an exception. If we see that
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this speed is a still way over the posted speed limit. And right now you're able to see from the
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signage and with accidents and stuff that is part of your case when you're going to ask for this
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exception. Is that right? That's correct. Thank you. Councillor Campbell. Thank you, Mr. Rally. And you know,
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this probably isn't a question for what we're talking about here. But we are talking about the safety
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and going across the bridge. And one of the things that terrifies me is going into the west, going west
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at about five o'clock or four o'clock in the end.
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The glare of the sun that we get. No, no, no, I'm just saying, is there such a thing
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is figuring out what to do about that? Has anybody ever figured something out about the thing
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getting a sun visor for your car? It is frightening for like about 10 seconds when you're crossing
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into that? I mean, and of course you want, you know, the speed limit to be, you know, seven
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kilometers at that point, and it probably drops down to 50 at some points. I don't know, it's probably
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an impossible question to answer, but I just oppose it there for a moment for reflection.
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I think it's mostly, again, it's the education and outreach in that case,
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reducing the speed will help, but it's mostly driving habits and being prepared for the road
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conditions are different than when it's snowing. You know, you need to have the right tool,
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so it's, it's driver have it for the most part. Yeah. Okay, thank you.
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Councillor Wolfe. Do, so I believe it was in the summer time. When we, there's a news paper thing,
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we hand out 65 speed in tickets in one day because they're blowing through the 50 zone. Do we have stats
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on how long of a speeding honeymoon that got us, like where people really, really were like,
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oh, geez, I'm not going to speak because I'm going to get a ticket and how long it took them to be like,
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whatever, I'm going to speed. Like, it sounds like we have some measurements. Do we know that,
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what that bought us? How many days of safe driving did that that those 50 tickets buy us? We,
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we have the data, but we haven't done it. That's the word we're doing with LPS to see what is the
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consequence or the outcome of enforcing more or less and how we can actually change the driver
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behavior to be more in the safe side. Because thank you. So presumably, and again, I understand what
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the Mayor is saying about, you know, we don't want to, you know, take a jackhammer to this. It's just
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dumb speed counts. But if we were to go that route hypothetically, we could do like other locations
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are announced where we announced a schedule when that camera's on and off and try that for a start to
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see as opposed to just, it always being on or something like that, there would be different ways to
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help people remember to do the speed limit. So I don't have a precise answer for that. That's part
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of the word with LPS and that's their, that's the role that they do. We help them providing all the data
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and then the exception process with the province takes a little bit of time and you really need to
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have a safety approach and the only way they will approve this is that you can demonstrate that they
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have enough accidents or incidents or even loss of life due to, to, to, to car. Thank you. Thank you.
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All right. I see no further questions. And so thank you, Mr. Ali. And Mr. Sanchez for for that information
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and to administration. It's, it's questions that of course. We've got a lot of a lot of questions on
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and I'm glad we're able to have some of those answered. I, there's one last question and I'm
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not sure who could answer this is we have our, don't I see your communications in here is what,
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how deep are we have, or what's been our communications methods thus far with communicating this
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to, to the community? I can, again, answer some of the things that we have done together with the
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communications department. So we did prepare, creating FAQs for both 311 public facing groups
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to, to provide all the details and the rationale why we did this. We also had the media event last
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Wednesday where we invited all the media to provide again one more time, why are we doing the change,
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all the information on hand and we also have been tracking the team has been responding through
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311. I know up to yesterday we have only received 16 calls since we did the change last week,
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which is not a significant amount of, of course we were expecting more but I guess in the other hand we
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have received positive feedback for a big group of users in terms of doing the change is all about safety
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and that's what we're trying to convey the message. Information is there. We'll be included in the news
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release with the council meeting today and we are also half our outreach and education team
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working with the communications to ensure we provide all the details. Thank you for that.
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Oh, here we are. So just to receive information from Accumier Croson debate.
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It's information you've heard it. You can't give it back. Please vote for this.
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Call the question. Question call. All in favor. And that is unanimous. Thank you.
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All right. We have a submission here. And it's a resolution that was brought forward from
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Councillor Parker regarding employee staffing statistics and we resolved the city council received this report
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for information. Any questions on that that is come forward?
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If not, Councillor Parker, open debate. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Ms. Mitton and your team for
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doing this. Thanks for working with me on this as well over the last month or so. It's very easy to read.
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Very easy to understand. You said this is this is online on the dashboards of my correct as well. So
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people can check that out through the city leverage website. Thank you for the question, Councillor Parker.
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It will be attached to this agenda. So it will be part of the minutes. Very good. Otherwise, it looks great.
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I appreciate this. So in six months, that being June 16th, whatever. That will be seeing another
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column I'm guessing added to the right. Perfect. Thank you very much.
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And with that, I'll take it as your question. We call it all in favor.
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And that is unanimous. Thank you.
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Next, Edvin. Increase. Thank you. One was submitted by Acting Mayor Belinda Croson.
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Regarding it, we flash on school buses. That information is in your package as well as
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Councillor Croson and improving parking accessibility for those with disabilities who wish to attend
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farmers market at the leverage trading convention center, which the inquiry in the administrative response
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is in the package. Thank you. Go ahead, Councillor Croson.
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Thank you both. Thank you for the answers to both those. Not quite what I was hoping with either one, but I hope they
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also start the conversation, particularly with the parking at the farmers market. You were able to show
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a map that there's a lot of parking. But this one that people have chosen as, you know, we should
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make this disability is the closest. And it is funny, because whenever we see a new division or subdivision,
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you start seeing the pathways that people like to use that, you know, we might make a beautiful pathway
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and then they all cut across. And sometimes the public shows us an answer that maybe we should listen to it.
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I know this is, again, in a min's purview and it's between a min and trading convention center.
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But there is perhaps an opportunity here with that parking pad that was never meant to really be a parking
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pad, but is really close if somebody has a disability. So thank you for the answer and I just want to
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put it out there as maybe there's a possibility there, but I'm not going to say go for it or not. Thank you.
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Thank you. And for council updates, any council updates, council mayor of all must have, yeah,
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council chairman, may it rebel. Thanks very much. I am headed up to Edmonton this week to start the
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in person training for the Alberta Municipalities Board. So it's certainly happy to take any feedback from
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Alberta municipalities, the conference up with me if anybody would like to share that before I leave.
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And then also excited to share that I'll be part of the University of Leatherages International Women's Day
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Leadership Panel at the March 11 conference. Speakers include Julie Black, Melinda Smith,
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D. Andrew Bruce head and Kirby and Whitney Miranda, the property twins. The theme of the conference is
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disrupting the superwoman narrative embracing the power of rest tickets are available now and I certainly look
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forward to seeing my colleagues there. Thank you. And this is for men, women, anyone.
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It's for anyone. Thank you so much for that. All right. Any other council updates?
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Seeing none. I have a motion from Councillor Doria to enter a closed session. Be it
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resolved that we now enter a closed session at 248 PM to discuss confidential matters with respect to 14.1 to 14.5
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As per sections 20 harmful the private personal privacy 22 confidential evaluations 26 harmful
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the intergovernmental relations 28 look public public body confidence is 29 advice officials 30 information
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harmful to the economic interest of a public body 31 testing procedures test and audits and 32 privilege
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information of the access to information act. Councillor Doria.
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Can I ask for questions? Questions been called. All in favour? And that passes. Thank you.
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And with that we are enclosed.
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