Council Mtg 8-26-26

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[0:00] Community events before we were even open. We did a couple of bi-weekly cannabis of conversation events where we invited anybody from the public, from the community who would want to calm and just talk with us and discuss cannabis, discuss what bringing cannabis to the market and to the area would look like different regulation rules, laws, how it works.
[0:22] And it seemed to help a lot, now at this point in time we really only push back we have at this point in time is people complaining about the price and that's not really much.
[0:33] We can do about that right now.
[0:36] How far along in the process are you guys when you guys plan on opening?
[0:41] Well, we're open.
[0:43] Yep.
[0:43] We've been open since February 5th, so just a little over six months now.
[0:49] We started this process last year.
[0:52] It was began at the beginning of last year in our city council.
[0:55] It was voted to go ahead and pursue this endeavor.
[0:59] At first it was said by city council,
[1:00] they wanted to build a fast and build a cheap.
[1:03] But we have done a about face on the build a cheap part.
[1:06] We wanted to set a standard for other buildings
[1:09] and other dispensaries that may want to come into the area
[1:12] of what we expect it to look like and how we want
[1:16] bring the beauty to the area in this space as well. So we did do an about face on the build
[1:22] that cheap part but we still built it fast. I believe it was about seven months from groundbreaking
[1:27] to opening day. It was a very quick design build process but we got it all knocked out.
[1:33] And now we've been open and already sitting at within our first six months of being open a total
[1:39] gross sales of over two and a half million. So then running really busy.
[1:46] No, yes. So this would just be kind of like a partnership between the city and you guys.
[1:52] We would, how would that all work?
[1:55] Um, yeah. So like right now.
[1:59] Stop.
[1:59] I'm sorry. I missed that last step.
[2:01] Like upfront cost is that split between the two of us.
[2:04] So how does that all get started?
[2:06] Um, it would be, so it's kind of every, every grouping that we're doing and all the discussions we're doing kind of, it gets tailored to the specific step.
[2:16] Um, right now, like the one we are actually currently pushing to get started here very soon is in blame.
[2:21] Um, and with them, they are taking on the entirety of the build out cost, but in exchange, our first year, the split would be on 80, 20, with 80% to blame 20% to NOCA.
[2:33] Third, second year goes to 70, 30, and then third year on goes to a 50, 50.
[2:38] And we'll be willing to discuss and fix a, you know, work things out with whatever works best for each individual situation.
[2:53] Definitely options available for you guys when it comes to getting into this space doing it yourself is always an option going with a
[3:05] is always an option as well, but there's definitely a lot of different ways you can go about it.
[3:11] But when it boils down to its city, governments don't have a chance to bring more income into
[3:17] the city very often. So jumping on it now is definitely recommended.
[3:22] And then is there any stipulations like that you guys need as far as like a building size space?
[3:28] Does it need to be so far from residential? Does it need to be away from like schools,
[3:33] spars any of that sort of stuff. With us specifically, no, just following the state regulations
[3:40] is the only stipulation that we have, which I believe the buffer is for this data or 500 feet
[3:46] from a school, church, park, or other attraction.
[3:52] So
[3:56] there's part of it would be coming from our
[3:58] code as well, like that distance from schools and all that,
[4:05] which I don't think any business or
[4:07] and business spot would be an issue as far as building.
[4:15] Yeah.
[4:18] That's all I personally have.
[4:21] And the chance you've got them all.
[4:24] You'll be visiting their place on Friday.
[4:30] Oh, you're welcome.
[4:30] Yeah, so we'll be up in the cities for a boarding
[4:33] for that's clerks association.
[4:35] So that we're going to head over.
[4:39] Cool.
[4:39] Yeah, be interested to hear how that experience goes.
[4:42] Like I said, this is just a storm of conversation.
[4:46] I was glad that it's one that is established and operational right now.
[4:53] I have where the only, the only one open menu I so far.
[4:57] I know seeing Anthony is working on getting a-
[5:00] Open soon. But we are the only ones that are looking at doing this mutual beneficial agreements with anybody at this time. So
[5:10] thank you, Stephanie, see you Friday.
[5:11] Absolutely.
[5:12] See you guys then. Bye.
[5:19] We have this change order.
[5:24] This has to do with safety issues.
[5:28] So we're also, this came up because our chief who looked at the crash bar that goes from the meeting room into the garage, PD-Vlog and it's not working the way he is anticipating it should work and for that it requires a different set of things that needs to be installed.
[5:55] when it's called Madla, and then at additional edition of Cargritor.
[6:02] And this is Olympic portion of the costs, which includes the black iron Madla,
[6:11] it's called electric work.
[6:14] We're pulling the wires, and then obviously on the other side.
[6:20] And the other piece is the actual reader.
[6:23] there will come off the screen because that was part of the thing that we can buy anything
[6:31] within surveillance and equipment was approved. This is additional cost and we need to put it
[6:39] on there but it will come off. That cost will come off on the platform so it's not added here.
[6:45] This just came up today when we were doing some initial punch list. I'm just to see what
[6:52] were and they're going to do another extensive one punch list on September 15th and I just
[6:59] didn't want to delete it because the electrical people are still finishing up on
[7:04] before they stayed approved. They're fine and I'm sorry, it's so, and I couldn't put it,
[7:11] you want to put it in the agenda because it was so late already.
[7:17] And this will obviously come
[7:18] out of the continuous outcome that we still have.
[7:22] How much is left for the contingency bank?
[7:25] Last I calculated and again I don't have all the paid requests yet because I'm still expected to be a request about roughly 12,000.
[7:37] And that's before after this, before.
[7:42] Okay.
[7:43] All depends.
[7:44] Out there.
[7:51] So I would make the motion to approve the change order number 13 for the.
[7:59] Add Maglock to Door 129A in the amount of $4,616 and $37.
[8:09] Also for that.
[8:11] We have a motion by Mayor Carlson with the second but it helps remember good.
[8:15] To approve change order number 13.
[8:18] For the addition of the Maglock to Door 129A in the amount of $4,616 and $37.
[8:27] Is there any further discussion?
[8:30] All those in favor, I post, cured,
[8:41] next down, designation of Minnesota certified
[8:45] municipal clerk and completion of a milestone for sure, he's friend.
[8:52] It's a lot of work, it's a lot of time and effort, and so congratulations, I don't know.
[8:59] Do you have your speech ready?
[9:03] They'll be next time we can hear that next door dance, which one do you want?
[9:09] Ogol.
[9:12] Got to be a TikTok dance song.
[9:18] No, congratulations.
[9:22] So part of this is she went through a three-year program where she went to wait for training
[9:27] for a weekend of time, and then there's some additional hours that you have to put in.
[9:33] So it's not something to really take lightly.
[9:37] There's a lot of time and effort that they put into this.
[9:39] So you've enjoyed speaking in front of the whole group too.
[9:43] Yes, they do make you do that.
[9:46] So when I did that, I got to, this before I was on the council.
[9:51] But I got to pretend to be one of the council members.
[9:55] And I was not a very nice council member.
[10:00] Or sometimes they make you, pretend you are a resident, and there's a lot of issues and complaints to the council, or bringing in an easement or ordinance-related stuff, so it's quite a bit.
[10:16] Yeah, we had one resident issue. Every meeting didn't matter if it was a council meeting, an EDA meeting didn't matter what it was.
[10:23] to come in, complain about our neighbor's dog,
[10:27] crepping on her log along, and she would leave.
[10:31] And then yeah, we had some, we had some correct,
[10:34] corrupt counselors out there, and yeah, that was fun.
[10:38] And it was just kind of making it up as we go,
[10:40] it was kind of a, it's almost like a mock of actual counselor
[10:44] or commissioning in college.
[10:47] So our next step would be that working towards the master's
[10:51] to that gets a little bit more deeper and all kinds of things CIPs and that's increment financing
[10:57] and budget, you know, very helpful in the career.
[11:06] It's a step-in-crease for ambulance director Matt, I say.
[11:18] So, mayor and council, this is just an annual 360 review that happens once a year,
[11:24] before we say whether or not someone should move with all of the different steps.
[11:31] And again, as you're all aware, it has been a very consistently working with the new public safety building construction project.
[11:41] And all the frustrations and anticipation and everything that comes with it in keeping up with that.
[11:46] I think it's pretty familiar.
[11:47] and seeing it to a partition very soon, you know, and then future as well. So I do recommend
[11:57] with all of his hard work and committed to the city to move him up from grade 12.
[12:19] That's
[12:34] would make the motion to approve the step increase for met essay from grade 12, step 8 to grade 12, step 9 with an effective date of August 25th.
[12:48] I would say 2026 instead of 2025.
[12:52] I just don't know what's happening.
[12:56] Yes.
[12:56] Yes.
[12:57] I noticed it well.
[12:57] I was reading it.
[12:59] I'll second.
[13:01] We have a motion by Mayor Carlson with the second by council member back to approve the step increase for
[13:07] Matt Essing from grade 12, step 8 to grade 12, step 9 with an effective date of August 25,
[13:15] 2026.
[13:16] Is there any further discussion?
[13:21] Just thank him for everything he does.
[13:25] All right, all those in favour?
[13:28] I opposed.
[13:31] Here we go.
[13:33] All right, approve the renewal of the franchise agreement between Minnesota energy resources and the city of Boston.
[13:44] So we are in council, most of the franchises are kind of about 20, 25 years.
[13:50] Once they are getting to an agreement with the city.
[13:53] So this is the second set of franchise agreement that is up for anyone.
[13:57] with Minnesota energy. We do not have any franchise fees per se that we call it from them.
[14:03] Like we do it with the cable franchise. So this is just an agreement to
[14:09] renew their contract. And usually they do it 10, 10, meaning the 10 years and then it's automatic
[14:14] 10 years after that. And before it comes back to us again to renew it. So that's what this is about.
[14:28] I would motion to approve the renewal of the Fred Chaser Agreement between Minnesota Energy Resources and City of Bluebuston.
[14:36] Second.
[14:37] We have a motion by Council Member Beck with the second by Good to approve the renewal of the
[14:43] Franchise Agreement between Minnesota Energy Resources and the City of Bluebuston.
[14:48] Is there any further discussion?
[14:51] All those in favor?
[14:53] Aye.
[14:55] Opposed?
[14:56] Here.
[14:56] Thank you.
[15:00] Local sales tax discussion.
[15:11] Mayor and Council last year, I believe, doing one of the community engagement and just talking to different businesses, one of the things that I was brought up is, instead of increasing tax level, why don't we look for local sales tax for the city of least?
[15:30] because that could generate revenue as well and that way we can use that revenue to
[15:37] lower our, what we'd love you on the property tax obviously.
[15:42] And yes, there's a way to do that.
[15:45] And I did initial initial conversation with the Minnesota Department of
[15:50] revenue to just see what it looks like for us.
[15:54] And they did say,
[15:55] With the sales going on within the city of Roisten, it could generate up to $110,000 a year.
[16:04] But this that's not include all the online sales that's happening because they couldn't pull that data out.
[16:11] And I just kind of looked up some of the similar size cities for us that are having permitted this that are less than $500,000 population and doing a 1% local sales tax.
[16:24] Two harborses, one of them, Virginia is another proctor, is another day in fact increased from 1% to 1.5%.
[16:33] Just recently, effective July of this year to just raise the revenue stream in a different way, rather than putting.
[16:43] So this is one option. However, there is a process to this process this whole thing.
[16:48] First, you have to kind of let that legislator know that you are going to do that.
[16:54] It has to go to referendum.
[16:56] So I'm giving enough time frame for council.
[16:59] If you can think about it, if this is something you want to explore.
[17:02] If you do, then obviously we have to work with the legislator body as well as this department of revenue.
[17:10] And the earliest we can do is elections of 2028.
[17:15] Basically, the question will be do you want to impose on local tax up to 1% or whatever 0.5% yes or no,
[17:25] depending on the goals it can go forward but there's definitely a process and a cost.
[17:34] Usually the legislative side of things is $30,000 to work with the lobbyists and then the
[17:41] partner revenue highs about 10 to 20 thousand dollars, because they ultimately managed it.
[17:47] And they have to cut a check to us every year.
[17:51] And if you really want to explore that, I can find a more information on it's outside of things.
[17:58] But not including the internet sales.
[18:01] If we were to put 1% local sales tax, it would come to about $110,000 a year.
[18:08] How does that work with the other point compared to the little percent of the property taxes?
[18:15] So basically 100, 100,000 is about 1 percent of the property taxes.
[18:23] Now, when it goes up for reprimand, you know, would there, would there ask a question, would there be a where that money is going to be useful?
[18:33] That would be, instead of property tax, would be sales tax.
[18:39] This is a word that has come somewhere that won't present.
[18:44] So either, I mean, if you reduce one way, it has to come from somewhere,
[18:50] to cover that gap, right?
[18:52] So, a lot of times people lean towards sales tax,
[18:56] just because it's all kinds of sales happening, right?
[19:00] I mean, in and out sales and other sales.
[19:02] It does not affect the automobile sales.
[19:06] There are some things that it doesn't apply to.
[19:08] You don't apply to the gas either, right?
[19:11] I don't like to say that I have to do some more to do.
[19:14] I thought it was a question that I had to go ahead.
[19:18] But it does take time.
[19:20] So I need some kind of direction from the council if you want to pursue this.
[19:25] And I flip back and forth on this one all the time.
[19:28] sometimes I think yep this would be a good idea and other like any but it would go to a
[19:36] referendum so we would get input from and then you can decide what that whatever
[19:43] that amount is that we are bringing in word yes yeah this is I have actually brought
[19:50] this up to our previous administrator when we seriously started talking about the
[19:55] facility see it could be a realistic thing to generate funds for that.
[20:00] At that time, I pretty much just got it. It's a lot of work and I don't want to do it answer.
[20:05] What's kind of how I took it, but I think it's a good idea.
[20:08] Do we need to have specific things that we wanted to go to?
[20:14] Eventually now, or wouldn't it?
[20:15] Not enough right now. Right now, I just need direction you want to further get more detail information.
[20:22] Then I can just work with the Department of Review and the lobbyist that's, you know, work with that.
[20:27] because like she's got on here too, you know, we wouldn't be looking at doing that referendum until
[20:32] to election in 28. So there's we've got some time to think about like what kinds of things we
[20:37] would want to take all towards him. And I can get all that information in order for a big
[20:43] now and probably possibly end up this year even, you know, and what that looks like.
[20:50] I think it's a good idea to look forward at least.
[20:53] You know, because I think about when the county came here and you know, they did it was it 1% that they did from the
[21:02] They tried and I all went right fine. I thought it went through. Okay, maybe it was just in the here in the city that it
[21:09] I remember seeing it went through but anyway, you guys to see what all it's that
[21:15] And what that balance is right and what how it affects they it
[21:20] I mean, obviously, we have a very high tax bracket, right?
[21:24] There's no, I'm not going to deny that, you know?
[21:27] But how do you eliminate that burden, you know, just some property tax?
[21:32] So that different ways to do things, you know?
[21:34] This is one way, cannabis industries another way, right?
[21:37] So whatever you have, if you had a municipal liquor,
[21:39] you would be offsetting some of the, you know,
[21:43] net profits from there to the general property, you know, and I have some of those.
[21:46] So, it's not really tough to do, but it is time for you and some things needs to go to my friend.
[21:57] Yeah, I like the idea that, I mean, it's not just loosened residents paying it either.
[22:01] People that are here for ball games, they're stopping that quick trip to Dollar General.
[22:04] So it's, it's our people passing through town that are paying it also, so it's not a complete burden just on the residents.
[22:13] Yeah, I think that, you know, as long as everybody is informed to that, you know, if this passes, it's going to be overset less than the property taxes, it will be no sales tax.
[22:25] Correct.
[22:26] And I think we probably have some informed of sessions beforehand just to let people know that information and questions.
[22:34] I'm sure there's going to be questions out of that.
[22:37] Yeah, because otherwise, I think I look at like one more percent attack and I think when I say that I flip that back and forth
[22:48] That's where my head goes
[22:50] You know, does that
[22:54] Steps you know, okay, I work in Winona, I'll make sure to find this there, you know, but
[23:01] And I'm sure you will have people that think of it that way as well
[23:05] Well one of the advantages that I see is
[23:10] proper texts, sometimes people can forego that, right?
[23:14] Not paid.
[23:16] They still stay still out of paid.
[23:19] So it's a continuous sort of
[23:21] set in the city, too.
[23:24] So proper texts, sometimes, people foreclone
[23:27] to the homes that don't pay.
[23:28] You know, eventually it gets provoked with the bank
[23:31] and it shifts up and all that.
[23:33] That's all process.
[23:34] and you won't see that until 20 pages of that.
[23:38] Sales stats, it's regardless.
[23:40] I mean, you make a purchase.
[23:44] So they have advantages, disadvantages,
[23:47] and if you are willing to move ahead with this,
[23:50] then that's how I will approach it
[23:51] and bring the pros and cons.
[23:53] Okay, if you do this, this is how you would do
[23:56] with the property taxes.
[23:58] Yeah, I should go.
[24:00] Yeah, if you weren't exploring further,
[24:02] you know.
[24:06] Did you need a formal motion or suggestion?
[24:10] The consensus would be fine.
[24:14] A approval of ERP software to streamline all of city's financials.
[24:26] So, you're in constant agreement called from last meeting.
[24:31] I didn't have a clear answer.
[24:32] I'm the uptick for the ex fund.
[24:35] I was very clear on the BSNA, that was 7% for them, year to year, with Akifund, they did
[24:46] say that if it's going to be annual, it could be anywhere from 2 to 5%.
[24:50] If it come at three years, we could do 45%
[24:56] that didn't really make it just one percent.
[25:00] Or one particular person, but they did say the commit to five years term, they will make sure that it doesn't exceed three percent of day.
[25:10] And again, the implementation cost is extremely high for BS&A. I tried to negotiate it down, and they just let that in, so I'm that one.
[25:24] And they cannot make the commitment for on January 1st life.
[25:32] Do you have a clean slate in all?
[25:35] They can do, they can commit to joy, which is half the year.
[25:39] Everything's so.
[25:41] And that's where I am.
[25:43] And you do move forward with that.
[25:46] And they need to contract sign by September 1st.
[25:55] So I think that we are all kind of an agreement to move forward with this software, but it's just a matter if we want to do a year or a year or a three or a five year.
[26:05] I think there's pros and cons.
[26:08] So it's a three year increases more than one year.
[26:13] There are annuals three to five or three years and four to five.
[26:17] Seems backwards to me,
[26:22] but, you know, yes.
[26:25] Yeah, I think I was in favor of the three years.
[26:29] Well we talked about last time. Is it? What were you guys thinking of that? My
[26:35] initial thought is to just do an annual for the first year then at if everything
[26:40] goes great we love the software then maybe pursue the five year. I just paid to be
[26:44] locked into a five year and then it's like a socks wheel. Yeah the software.
[26:50] If we
[26:57] do a
[26:57] five year off the gate then we're still then maybe they'll start liking it a little
[27:01] or knowing there's not equipment for another four years too.
[27:05] Well, it doesn't take quite a while to get used to.
[27:07] It's just getting used to it.
[27:08] So you may not be used to it.
[27:10] You still might be learning it just because.
[27:12] Right.
[27:13] Because some people might get into it once a month.
[27:18] So the other thing we have to think about.
[27:22] If you lean towards a five year.
[27:24] I mean, there's an implementation cost too.
[27:26] So you would have that again.
[27:28] If you decide after you're not to do this.
[27:30] So if you lock yourself in with that five year, whether you like it or not, at least then you could maybe start planning for that implementation cost at the end of the five years if you don't like it.
[27:45] Yeah, I didn't even think of that aspect.
[27:47] Is there any software migration or upgrade?
[27:52] It's the implementation that you have to be very, very, and I'll be honest.
[27:56] I mean, I have done so many implementation. I put my foot down in a marriage table because they will try all kinds of things to extend that time frame when something's, you know, it can be done very easily.
[28:10] And they, they call it a discovery session, which is basically asking what your choice of account looks like, and those kind of thing doesn't need to drag, you know.
[28:20] But I've seen where the implementation costs have just the skyrocketed because people are not ready, and then they're training costs, you know, the time, this, everyone does everything remotely, B.S. and A has travel time in mileage, and the whole kind of thing they don't do remote, and I'm like, okay, and this day and age everything is very much remote these days, so implementation costs are the killer, and as you know, any European system,
[28:51] Even just the core is 100 grand out the back.
[28:55] And that's one reason I cannot justify other ones like
[28:57] Tyler Technologies, you will hear a lot of
[29:00] communities use that.
[29:03] Springbrook, sage or a call for nodules.
[29:07] I just can't justify that cause for the city itself.
[29:10] And have you talked to other cities that have the software?
[29:13] And they were all truly happy with it?
[29:16] And do you work with the one, one of the biggest things
[29:19] They said, on both of them, that is on the cloud.
[29:22] So they're not worried.
[29:23] They can access it from an accessibility
[29:25] as a huge thank for them.
[29:26] They're reporting, both of them are very good at.
[29:29] There's really customized reporting
[29:31] that you can do.
[29:32] Acupuncture even has the flexibility
[29:34] where you can write different formulas
[29:37] to make certain unique criteria in payroll happen,
[29:42] or some just can't handle it.
[29:45] And then doing the all the financial statements and the gas be so that, you know, what the editors do, you know, their financial reports.
[29:54] If you know exactly what those gas be so are, you can put them in a certain order and it will generate that.
[30:00] And when you did the demo, you were kind of happy with what it could be.
[30:07] I like both of them actually.
[30:11] Much better than talented knowledge.
[30:14] But talented knowledge is very good for larger cities.
[30:17] to work at the employees, plus just because they have their back and is a different software.
[30:27] They usually run on Microsoft in an Excel or Oracle, which has a much faster teleport.
[30:36] You don't need it for a science lesson.
[30:43] So my question for you, I guess, in your opinion, you know,
[30:47] brings something like this in, you know, with the accounting and stuff.
[30:53] How confidence are you that we're going to see improvement on this next year's
[31:01] budget.
[31:01] I would say, if we start fresh, you know, with the fresh charts of counts,
[31:08] and called for tremendous right out the back.
[31:13] No, and the people, because a lot of them are being done that only.
[31:18] It's a lot of manual process.
[31:20] Sure, I absolutely like BSN, because it's a third party.
[31:24] It doesn't integrate very well, and there's a lot of things you have to do to bring it in.
[31:29] And then even if you bring it in, then utility, not to push it.
[31:32] They get into the funny county side of things.
[31:36] It is just not integrated the way it should be.
[31:41] So yeah, there's a lot of manual work.
[31:43] And when the error happens, then you notice,
[31:45] Ben, quite a few, much, many hours sometimes,
[31:49] just to figure out what happened to you.
[31:51] So we're probably looking at two,
[31:55] two and three more years of really seeing high efficiency in that,
[31:59] because this next model would probably be better in the last one,
[32:03] because we have admitted this all.
[32:06] One of the things I'm really liking with,
[32:08] especially I keep on the guy that I talked to,
[32:10] he's a CPA and so in government finance
[32:13] for almost 32 years.
[32:16] I mean, there's some things I talked to BSNA,
[32:18] they really couldn't answer,
[32:20] but this guy just picked on like that, even though it's the guy.
[32:23] And I said, oh yeah, we don't have this thing.
[32:27] Which a lot of accountant struggle with, I've seen.
[32:30] And just because they don't have understanding
[32:33] of the government finance. They may be accountant and the corporate sector, but the
[32:38] fund economy in the government sector and learning about all those what you can and can
[32:43] do. I mean, Mary, you know, complicated can be. So yeah.
[32:52] What is the trap you'll need?
[32:54] And Mayor's thinking if this works, that's how it works.
[33:05] Manion doesn't bother me nearly as much as it does most people because I know the quirks of it and I know the ins and outs.
[33:13] But if you don't know some of that, you can be very frustrated.
[33:18] If you have to understand, Manion is a standalone system.
[33:22] It's not a integrated system.
[33:26] And we are paying right now just three kind of current licenses.
[33:29] It's not everybody I know has access to, you know, to do what they really should be doing.
[33:37] Otherwise, it's all men who work.
[33:40] And it can work if you're just one person or two person, but when you get to really stand and do things,
[33:50] grant management is a big, I mean, value doesn't have to grow a grant management.
[33:56] I mean, you have to create a separate fund.
[33:58] can do that, but the real grand management is not able to do that, their time card, which we don't
[34:07] have that. Again, there are a lot of quirks in there. There are certain things. It doesn't automatically
[34:13] do it. You have to really go in there and make sure that it does it. So, and then he used the only
[34:21] programmer there, and he's getting to be of, isn't his 70s now, and I'm not sure what the
[34:28] future of Bany looks like, so the lot of cities I know that are moving away from that,
[34:35] some of them are going to be a SNA, just because they have marketed it pretty well out there,
[34:43] but again they implementation cost, just, I mean, I just can't justify the implementation cost,
[34:48] I thought again, but yeah, it was significantly higher when I...
[34:53] Yeah, and I'm like, okay, well, we are doing data conversion. I said, yeah, I get that.
[34:58] But what did you back then, you said?
[35:01] This is how you want the data in and I will just give it to you in that format, you know.
[35:09] And just because I've done so many implementations with the RPs, I know what data conversion looks like.
[35:15] And I will never have access to that or anyone step back and I get that, but it just, they're just not busted on that.
[35:24] So like I said, I'm going to give it to you for the moment.
[35:29] So the other ones I just cannot justify
[35:35] and let's get rid of the manual that's happening
[35:38] and all the errors that are happening as a result, too, and balancing of 5mm is the same.
[35:45] The audit process is not very good, but then Banyan, it doesn't audit trail everything that's
[35:51] happening.
[35:51] So, this limited report I can pull for audit was doing what were the errors meant.
[35:59] The new ones have, obviously, built in much more audit features that it can trigger alarms, alerts.
[36:08] So, all those can be configured.
[36:11] It's much secured to us, much higher than the value, no doubt about that.
[36:20] What are your thoughts on the agreement options as far as annual three or five?
[36:26] I don't mind year to year myself, you know, but it takes at the minimum three years to really get into that
[36:34] Any vendor especially if it's a year because it's not just one module, right?
[36:38] You have all the different modules you have abilities you have AP accounts for civil cash receipts
[36:44] You have time card
[36:46] P.O. H.R. We don't have any H.R.
[36:50] By the way, can I ask that?
[36:51] Do we know if, say, we would go for five year and at three years we say,
[36:58] we just can't do this anymore. Do we know if there's a penalty or anything to get up?
[37:02] That I didn't ask, but I can definitely ask.
[37:04] I just thought of it now.
[37:07] I would assume so.
[37:08] Yeah.
[37:08] I would too.
[37:09] I guess I just was wondering about what it would be.
[37:17] probably be the full cost for the years and I guess
[37:26] my thought with the implementation fees and
[37:30] such I would lean more towards the five year knowing that it's going to take a year to
[37:34] for everybody to get trained, get used to it anyways. I think that would probably be my home.
[37:42] Yeah, five years was quicker you'd think too.
[37:45] Yeah, yours passed really fast.
[37:50] I know I definitely would not want to go with just the one year.
[37:54] But that's simply because, yeah, you're not going to know what at the end of one year.
[38:00] It will just take one year to get comfortable, you know.
[38:07] But yes, it is kind of weird that the three year is a little bit higher than the one year.
[38:14] Well, the one year looks like this is a three to five, so it can be five percent, you know.
[38:21] But the fact that the three year even have the three percent options.
[38:26] And there is really weird to me.
[38:28] Exactly.
[38:30] And maybe that's just their way of trying to push people to that five year.
[38:36] Yeah, because I'm sure they want to have consistent business too, you know.
[38:42] in a way to work as a staff out by the years and most of our systems are implemented and rolled over every 10 years.
[38:55] So if it was a just a stand-alone, like I said, accounts payable, you know, you can just do it every single year.
[39:01] If you eat, but when there's seven modules involved and you have to integrate all those, they always look for high orders.
[39:11] How long have we had Banyan do we know?
[39:15] Forever.
[39:16] I'm trying to remember.
[39:19] I've known you since 95, so I know Banyan existence then.
[39:23] Yeah, I'm just trying to remember.
[39:25] I mean, I remember looking to see how far back I could look and I'm trying to remember what year that was.
[39:32] And I don't remember what it is here.
[39:34] 2008 is sticking in my head.
[39:36] I just don't know if that was here.
[39:38] or chat field. But I do, I mean, I can remember hearing about something going on at the council where they were asking for reports and it was back when things were still being done manually. They did not have software to take care.
[40:00] So any reports were very manual. And if I remember correctly, there was a council member because he wasn't getting the reports that he was asking for. He would always say, no to all of that council payable because he wasn't getting answers. So I know that that was a driving force behind getting something. I just can't remember the exact time frame when that happens.
[40:23] So, I mean, when they started with Bandit, it was a huge huge step, you know, but,
[40:42] so what do we think of it?
[40:46] I'm laying towards the five-year term, so you can learn it.
[40:51] Well, and actually, you know, we, and that one's not somewhere in this range either, it's 3% right?
[40:58] up to 3%, up to 9%, and
[41:04] in the, so one thing I did ask is for I fully have you really
[41:09] increased your prices that much and they're going home. So, there is a buffer on there.
[41:19] I think it's a risk factor, right? I mean, simple as I have. So, try to.
[41:28] Yeah, I'm with Emily, it's going to be at least 3%, but it will not exceed 3%.
[41:36] So it could be 1.5%
[41:41] and from budget perspective it gives me flexibility to budget accordingly.
[41:49] Do you know what time frame of the year they generally would let us know what the increase would be for the next renewal.
[41:58] So if we sign the contract, let's say tomorrow, right?
[42:01] To start, so that we will trick our next August.
[42:06] So it should work July.
[42:07] Pretty well from budget then, too.
[42:23] So I'm motion to approve purchase of the Aggie Fund ERP software to help streamline all the city's financials with a five year term.
[42:36] I'll second.
[42:38] So we have a motion.
[42:39] I can't remember back with a second by EGRED to approve.
[42:44] What was the name of this app again?
[42:48] An application.
[42:50] Implementation for a five year term.
[42:56] Did I cover it all with that?
[42:59] Is there any further discussion?
[43:05] All those in favour?
[43:08] I opposed.
[43:10] Curried.
[43:13] All right, down to council concerns.
[43:17] Do you have anything to say, right?
[43:18] Um, no, I really don't, but we'll be gone for the next meeting, maybe the next two, I'll be at the area,
[43:29] I'm a
[43:29] sensual talent. I'm returning back on a 23rd of a century with time. Okay. You can log in our
[43:35] multi, um, just throw that off. I'll take that consideration. Just say, you're very, all
[43:42] well, because we will be passing the, um, pre-limit, pre-limit area in the next two. Okay.
[43:49] I think I'm going to be in Philadelphia on the 23rd and I might be available to
[43:55] Okay, I mean I'm just strong
[43:58] You can always promote it
[44:00] Yeah, we'll see
[44:02] Just like you did for the idea
[44:03] Okay, I'll be in touch on that
[44:10] That's it
[44:11] It's all in it
[44:13] That's all ever
[44:13] So what the meetings and such
[44:15] So I just
[44:28] And then we will be having a work session on the 9th after the meeting.
[44:39] So the Minnesota Association of Small Cities, they're track out to DC, it's coming up
[44:46] but we don't know when it is, so hopefully it's not that same week.
[44:51] But I do not know yet. They have not said when that's going to be with that.
[44:57] Get the voting.
[44:58] Do you want to just send an email?
[45:00] I'll tell everybody to, because I know John does get pretty busy and come harvest season two, just to let him know that we would meet him most likely.
[45:09] And it would depend on if I'm not flager not.
[45:15] That gets a little tricky.
[45:18] Clyde Delta, you get free Wi-Fi.
[45:22] Well, I fly American because with my scooter, they have all my information and I don't
[45:28] have to go through a lot of, this is what this is, this is what this is, so it can be
[45:34] in.
[45:36] But just to have that work session would be from 7 to 8.
[45:48] There's a long as I'm here, it should be fine for me.
[45:53] Yeah, it should be perfectly fine for me also.
[46:03] I've had some people complain about the cats on top,
[46:08] where I might have to figure something out there for the stories.
[46:12] There's cats.
[46:16] Chatfield recently had a discussion about that as well.
[46:19] They reached out to Camp Camp Canyon.
[46:22] I don't know if that would be.
[46:24] I don't know if they come this far.
[46:25] I don't know if they come this far.
[46:27] they do a what is it catch new real new to release so at least they're not multiplying
[46:36] right and I don't remember what the cost was but it's
[46:43] not horrible but yeah I don't
[46:47] know how many we haven't found here either right I don't we have a few on our black
[46:54] And they are not owners, just strangers.
[47:01] I know the trailer park, you say have a lot of big trailer park and I know that when I sit outside
[47:08] there's some that fight right around this building.
[47:13] I've seen a few of a picture park.
[47:16] Well, I got an idea where those are coming from.
[47:19] Those are basically right next door to.
[47:22] Okay, but there's, I don't know, there's like, say you're not, I don't know.
[47:26] Are they breeding cats?
[47:27] The second year that's happened.
[47:31] I mean, by Australia's, but you're always there.
[47:34] Or animal shelter, I don't know if they take care of it.
[47:38] Yeah, I don't know.
[47:39] I just like I said, I know that they talked to Camp Companion,
[47:42] but I don't know if that's an old mistake, County,
[47:44] so I don't know if they would come this way or not.
[47:46] It's a called cat companion or a camp.
[47:49] Camp.
[47:50] They're around just a great.
[47:51] Yeah. So I don't know if they would come this way.
[47:54] That might be something I went home on.
[47:56] Right.
[47:56] I know.
[47:57] You know, they have the humane society there, but they're all, yeah, they're all.
[48:02] We've asked about the strengths a few times.
[48:04] Yeah.
[48:05] Because they get out and they have to get it back to the break.
[48:08] Yeah.
[48:08] We're an option.
[48:12] I have somebody I can talk about.
[48:14] Yeah.
[48:14] I don't want control and Rochester to see, but they would, you know,
[48:17] I can hate to see.
[48:18] It works.
[48:19] It's far.
[48:20] I'll ask you.
[48:22] And that those nice streets are getting some preventive maintenance done.
[48:28] I'm still so good.
[48:29] They're good ones.
[48:30] I'm still good.
[48:31] Thanks so much for helping me grab.
[48:33] Listen for my muscles.
[48:35] It's seriously so much better than the favorite that was there.
[48:40] I just got to tell a bit of room lines.
[48:42] Yeah, I saw that.
[48:43] I was thinking myself those teenager.
[48:47] TPN is straight to their side.
[48:50] That's for the old toilet papers can do.
[48:54] That was a genius idea by whoever.
[49:01] Yeah.
[49:01] I'm on a couple things.
[49:03] First one is the property located at 2-4, 5-2-2,
[49:09] County Road 25, which is across the street from the high school
[49:13] and the post office.
[49:16] It's considered you to get a township.
[49:18] We've discussed it before, but as we are,
[49:20] absolutely atrocious. He has not mold in probably three years. He has cars full of junkness,
[49:26] front yard. I don't know if there's anything we can do since it is you to good township,
[49:31] but I would really like to see you to good township maybe reach out to open, do something about it.
[49:37] I mean it's been every year. His property comes up and it just gets worse and worse every year.
[49:43] So it's two, four, five, two, three, county road, five.
[49:46] Come here up 25. It's the one right across from the post office and then it's right on the corner there. You won't miss it if you drive by.
[49:55] Okay, but I'm turning it into the back school parking lot.
[49:58] My only concern is if it's...
[50:00] City limits, then if it's a different touch, if I can call the clerk there.
[50:05] Yeah, and that's where we have done in the past, and it just kind of falls on deaf ears there.
[50:12] If they have anything in there, if they have a cold like we do in one of them.
[50:19] Well, I know the neighbors have even offered to go help clean it up, and he just tells them to get the eff out of the yard.
[50:26] Which probably makes them want to make it that way.
[50:28] But I mean, there's got to be stuff living in there, mice, rats, who knows, probably
[50:34] all the cats or things.
[50:40] Then I was just asked, solar switch over, everything went well.
[50:45] Not yet.
[50:46] They are going to a state inspection.
[50:49] Now, once the state inspector gives them a go ahead, the neighborhood commission.
[50:54] So, and they were commissioned all at the same time.
[50:58] So that's the update I got actually today and I'm still waiting for our website portal access where I can see over time, you know, how things are going so.
[51:12] But it's very close to the commission to some.
[51:15] And then just update on the EMS building, are they did they hit the 95% done?
[51:21] They did pass, run past the substantial completion today. We did a kind of initial,
[51:27] I shall ask not a normal one, but just to see where things are, we did get delayed two weeks
[51:34] because of the flooring that we had to change simply because there was paid by the donation.
[51:41] for the ambulance and the fire company because in the plants it had just a concrete and it really does
[51:53] all look good to have the concrete in their hallway like that. So they did complete that this weekend.
[52:01] So there was a delay there. They're still working on electric Chad could not, our building was
[52:10] you're going to give the temporary sort of a big enough occupancy yet just because they'd
[52:15] haven't gone through the final mechanical electrical and plumbing inspection.
[52:21] The outside should be done by end of this week and being at all.
[52:28] And most of the things should be all the tickle and then shadow issue the temporary occupancy
[52:35] September 11th timeframe. So we're past their past the point that's done enough to where we don't have to worry about the finding them and all that stuff for it's not being a great advice or anything.
[52:51] I'm really pushing them because some of these contractors are doing other jobs too, so I'm seeing like only one person is doing trying to do it.
[52:59] it's like that doesn't work but and so hopefully between now and then with liberty coming
[53:07] people will be off on vacation in a variety of Monday.
[53:14] It's coming along pretty good.
[53:16] And yes, there was a little hiccup again.
[53:19] The soil grade, you know, in the front.
[53:23] So they have to redo that.
[53:31] What did we decide with the back part being locked there? I know it was kind of up for discussion, did we decide to pave the back parking lot or not?
[53:42] I don't know.
[53:42] It will be out asphalt.
[53:44] It will be okay.
[53:46] Back in the, you know, natural street that goes away.
[53:51] Try where I call it driver, but they call it a street, and that's not a street.
[53:57] And then the front will be a whole asphalt. And then the side which is, you know, where the bay, that will all be grass because I asked is,
[54:07] I'm going to be a asphalt too, which is why it's not called in the plants, so it's just grass.
[54:14] And we'll have to do landscaping ourselves, so some things we can take care of, stuff we should
[54:23] grant because we still have some leftover money.
[54:28] Yeah, it's come along, being a loser.
[54:30] Looks like it's come along pretty good as well.
[54:32] Most of the things that we're part of the Fisher Grand First School around approval have been ordered.
[54:37] The lockers are kind of delayed because there was a confusion on the ordering so that's delayed.
[54:46] And the electrical people will have to come back to do that, so that will happen at end of September.
[54:52] But the final completion is October 9th.
[54:56] And I asked the general contract again, do you see it?
[55:06] That's all right. All things are, you know, as Appliances are coming in, TV is looking at things. We're getting placed in, but I will not move the staff in until I have temporary occupancy.
[55:18] at a ministry, and a street.
[55:22] And the state is okay.
[55:25] It's actually a natural concern.
[55:27] You have other ways to get in there.
[55:30] But a substantial completion is October 31st.
[55:35] And they're moving along pretty fast.
[55:37] Today, I mean, they do it all the sewer already.
[55:40] So now they're working on the water.
[55:43] So
[55:47] the generator gas should be hooked up
[55:50] between now and next week, so yeah, just a builder official will not be able to give.
[56:01] To pray you sort of be good at occupancy on this piece.
[56:04] He has six items basically, so.
[56:07] This is a way out that.
[56:12] In the project out at the wastewater plant just coming along.
[56:17] That's coming along as a few delays here and there, but nothing to be concerned.
[56:21] And I did drop off a couple of computers to their Sita vendor while I was in Twin Cities
[56:27] and visiting and I'll cut to there and fertilize so that implementation will be
[56:33] coming up so and I'm trying to explore it in an action or there right now there's Verizon
[56:41] but it's really not so I know HBC doesn't have fiber up there so that's triggered another
[56:50] conversation that have you guys worked with blend and foundation, you know, because they do broadband funding for community,
[57:00] so that's false and I think Joseph,
[57:07] he deals with broadband expansion and then he said the only thing we can do is the air.
[57:17] Yeah, I know Starlink would probably be an option.
[57:21] I just don't know what kind of speeds they need all there and what type of goals.
[57:24] Starlink is pretty good.
[57:27] It's 50 gig, almost.
[57:28] Probably five bucks.
[57:30] So I just have to find our vendor that can come.
[57:33] Mm-hmm.
[57:34] Well, it's all because they don't sell directly.
[57:38] But yeah, their speed is pretty high.
[57:41] So I think it should work as long as you're facing southern sky.
[57:47] Yeah, it's just a shame that it costs so much to you.
[57:49] fiber out there, because that would be ideal, but so that would probably be a couple hundred
[57:54] thousand dollars to get out there. Yeah, and I think if HBC and Brandon company in City
[58:01] works, it can, you know, because I know they have funded some of the broadband, so that's all
[58:09] they do, I mean they find those. And there may be a would be a grant available somewhere for something
[58:14] that too. So we'll see how that conversation goes, but the person I talked to, he said he said
[58:25] he's above his pay.
[58:30] But yeah, that was a little interesting to see that they don't have any
[58:35] broadband that side at all. What do they use in all their currently? It's Verizon. It is. It's just a wireless
[58:44] problem.
[58:53] Yeah. So yeah, it's a good action, you know, everyone that I know has a strong
[58:57] link has been impressed. They have no complaints whatsoever. They even say no matter how much
[59:04] this is known or how much it wins it never goes.
[59:09] And it's very cost effective actually. It's like
[59:12] that the minimum speed is 50 gig, $455 a month, that's pretty cheap actually.
[59:24] And then USDA, again, I don't have a 100% concrete date for their Chrome break.
[59:35] I mean, they haven't paid for the building permit yet, so I can't shoot that.
[59:39] And I didn't bring to that mention that the moment I issue you, you need to start the work.
[59:45] you know, you can just sit on it because you have 180 days to get things going, so they are aware of that, so.
[59:55] But they keep telling me that yes, September is almost from the corner here now, so.
[1:00:06] I don't have anything else. Do you have anything else?
[1:00:10] No, just checking along with the fingerprint code, zoning and closing talks.
[1:00:19] That should be.
[1:00:21] Did I bring it up? Did I have a conversation with Mr. Daily?
[1:00:30] He brought it up that he did.
[1:00:34] So I did have after that these meant work with him when we get signature.
[1:00:41] He did bring up that he is willing to have a conversation.
[1:00:47] So, and his daughter, O.C., used to work for City of Minona, who just retired.
[1:00:52] So it's kind of going to her to get the conversation started.
[1:01:02] Were you here just to observe tonight?
[1:01:04] Did you have anything you wanted to bring up?
[1:01:06] You know, I went to meet you on time,
[1:01:08] but I was working with the open and the background.
[1:01:13] I was just going to talk to your public comment.
[1:01:17] Come on.
[1:01:18] Come on.
[1:01:19] I'm very sorry.
[1:01:20] I hope you're okay.
[1:01:21] I might call these for being on time late.
[1:01:24] Again, that's my fault.
[1:01:25] But I just wanted to introduce myself.
[1:01:28] My name is Rebecca Church.
[1:01:30] I am running for one on a county attorney.
[1:01:31] I'm running on a post, but because I'm new to the position
[1:01:34] and you elect me, I would have been important to introduce myself.
[1:01:37] So I'm going around to counsels, city counsels,
[1:01:40] and townships.
[1:01:41] I'm in the praises at community events.
[1:01:43] I'm actually from Vermont,
[1:01:45] went to school in Losten, went to school with Jason and Jeremy.
[1:01:49] My parents, I run in Riftowbler
[1:01:50] and my grandparents, I run in Riftowbler, and my grandparents,
[1:01:51] I run in Riftowbler, and my grandparents, I run in Riftowbler.
[1:01:52] I run in Riftowbler, and my grandparents,
[1:01:54] and they're all, like, like, straight, straight, straight, right here.
[1:01:56] Yeah, so we live out in Fremont, my dad is on a township.
[1:02:01] So, good, like, small government will always
[1:02:03] important to me and brought up to me.
[1:02:05] My Ben at the County Attorney's Office for about 20 years,
[1:02:07] I started as a support staff there.
[1:02:09] I went to law school on the weekends.
[1:02:11] I was their first treatment court coordinator
[1:02:12] and helped write that grant.
[1:02:14] I went to my no-mo and county as an attorney for a couple of years
[1:02:16] before coming back here.
[1:02:19] In 2024, I was the managing attorney of the Public Defenders Office,
[1:02:23] but as like let's change in and I knew for sure,
[1:02:25] current sentiment and I'm suit hiring.
[1:02:27] I asked her to, if I could have there.
[1:02:29] So position for me over there with the intention
[1:02:32] that she could venture me into this decision,
[1:02:34] then that's pretty much what's been happening.
[1:02:36] So again, just coming to introduce myself,
[1:02:38] may myself available for questions,
[1:02:40] or if there's any other events you want me to go to,
[1:02:43] or sit down one on one,
[1:02:44] if there's a lot of people, you know the community
[1:02:45] that want to talk to me, I might want to make myself pretty available.
[1:02:49] So, you were in the heart of the day's parade.
[1:02:53] We're behind you with the great day.
[1:02:55] Oh, that's it.
[1:02:58] Yes, yes, yes.
[1:02:59] Yeah.
[1:03:00] I saw you at that.
[1:03:02] Yes, yes, yes.
[1:03:04] I was like, I know you.
[1:03:06] I see you.
[1:03:08] So, yeah.
[1:03:09] So, that's my purpose of coming.
[1:03:11] Just to hear what's going on in the community,
[1:03:12] is introduce myself and make myself available.
[1:03:15] So, if you want my opinions,
[1:03:17] I would talk to one on a county about that if you did because not doing anything about that property
[1:03:22] you could always do a job to one on a county depending on it they could like at some point
[1:03:26] they could even start getting tickets at it like there's statute set of also required property to be
[1:03:32] in certain positions. I don't know what that looks like. I'm just saying those are other options.
[1:03:38] And I'm pretty sure that one owner still has animal control as well. So you could reach out to them too.
[1:03:44] I think it's through the PD's office, so they probably won't come out here, but maybe they would have connections with somebody else that they've requested, so
[1:03:51] Some of them are some options
[1:03:53] Yeah, thank you for the info
[1:03:56] So thank you
[1:03:57] Thank you for letting me talk again. I am sorry. I knew 14 ahead we're gonna then Josh and Elaine's just had come with the late for the county board working session yesterday
[1:04:07] But I'm like, oh, that was still at like 4.430. It should be fine
[1:04:10] I don't know. I know what that is.
[1:04:15] Thank you.
[1:04:16] Thank you.
[1:04:18] All right, let's check out anything.
[1:04:19] Anybody else have anything?
[1:04:24] Then I'll make the motion to adjourn.
[1:04:26] Also, okay.
[1:04:27] So we have a motion by Mayor Carlson with a second by council member good to adjourn.
[1:04:31] All those in favor?
[1:04:33] Aye.
[1:04:34] Opposed?
[1:04:35] Here it is.
[1:04:36] It is 716 and we are adjourned.
[1:04:40] Thank you everybody.