[0:00] I'm sorry, I can't help you.

[1:04] Don't hit my feet.

[1:06] I can't breathe.

[1:08] I need the whole room.

[1:10] Right.

[1:10] I need to meet a new guy.

[1:14] Is that right?

[1:14] Right, yeah.

[1:15] Didn't bring him to the press.

[1:19] Give me a seat, bro.

[1:26] Yeah, I think so.

[1:28] Yeah, I think so.

[1:30] Yeah, I think so.

[1:34] I don't know, I think it's the right thing.

[1:48] I'd like to call the...

[1:49] Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[1:51] Can you

[1:58] just go inside?

[1:59] Can you just go inside and ready to go?

[2:18] Are you ready?

[2:20] Sorry.

[2:20] I'd like to call the Lighthouse Pointing Planning and Zoning Board meeting for September 1,

[2:31] 2026 to water.

[2:35] Cherry, can you call the roll?

[2:38] Michael Coleman.

[2:39] Fred McLean.

[2:40] Tom McFerrow.

[2:41] Are you Silverstein?

[2:42] Here.

[2:43] Alexander.

[2:44] Here.

[2:45] Susan Mottley.

[2:47] Here.

[2:47] Bill Gallo.

[2:48] Here.

[2:49] I am also here. We have a good board tonight. Definitely full of the minutes from August 4th.

[3:00] It's going to be like to make a motion.

[3:04] We'll have a second. Any discussion?

[3:08] Hearing none all the three of them please say aye. All right. Any opposed?

[3:15] And if we could ask you to please silence your cell phones, we're not asking you to turn them off, just silence them, so that they just vibrate, so you know they're there, but it does exist for a bunch.

[3:30] Thank you.

[3:33] Okay, Chairman, you have a little stretch for the boat.

[3:40] If you want to read it into the record, please, if not, I couldn't follow along with you.

[3:59] Alex, you're muted.

[4:10] Yeah, yeah.

[4:12] Just repeat after me, I Alex Argento.

[4:17] Do solemnly swear that I will support and defend.

[4:23] the constitution and government of the United States and of the state of Florida.

[4:31] Against all enemies, domestic or foreign.

[4:37] And then I will verify true faith.

[4:43] Loyalty and allegiance to the same.

[4:47] And that I am entitled to hold office under the Constitution.

[4:54] That I will safely perform all the duties as an alternate member of the planning study board.

[5:05] The City of Lighthouse Point on which I am about to enter.

[5:09] He is official.

[5:15] Congratulations, Alex.

[5:17] Thank you.

[5:18] We have you for another 10 years.

[5:22] It is 10 years, actually.

[5:25] Or three.

[5:26] Or maybe three.

[5:28] I guess it's three needs.

[5:30] Alex, oh well.

[5:33] Okay, the first item on the agenda is a discussion

[5:36] for Richmond or property group in Venetian Idol Shopping Center of 3722-3772.

[5:43] North federal highway, preliminary site planning, David.

[5:49] Tell us what you're doing to us here.

[5:52] All right. Well, good evening. Members of the Planning and Zoning Board.

[5:57] Get Dixon, Consulting City Planner. Tonight, you have a very full staff report that touches on a lot of things.

[6:07] This item is a preliminary site plan, so that means there's no action taking recommendations made.

[6:15] But as you can see in the report, I wanted to make sure that enough stuff was in there,

[6:20] so that the purpose of tonight's meeting could be achieved, which is to give the applicant everything that they need to submit

[6:25] with a final site plan next evening.

[6:29] So, what this project is is A.

[6:34] So, we can, basically, we can tell with you,

[6:36] wherever we want to fill or not down,

[6:38] but anything is correct.

[6:41] Right, right.

[6:41] Now, I would recommend that at the end.

[6:43] We have a very clear clear list of recommendations

[6:47] or actions.

[6:51] So, so that they have exactly what they need.

[6:53] All right, so this is a, obviously we're familiar with the Venetian island shopping center,

[7:01] the project is broken up into phases, which I will let the applicant speak to,

[7:07] but I'll kind of hit on just the high point. So even with the 18 page, whatever report,

[7:15] this is kind of just focusing on the spots that maybe we have questions on, right? So it's not,

[7:20] I'm not going to line up every single thing that it meets perfectly.

[7:24] It's a big site, and this gets to the first point I want to make tonight, which is the site is, it already has an approved site plan, right, from the 1960s, 70s.

[7:36] So although this isn't really an amendment to that site plan, it does have a development entitlement.

[7:41] And for all intents and purposes, each phase will modify that development entitlement as time goes on.

[7:52] So, as phase one, which is just the switch of the store from one end to the shopping center to the other, some site work and some painting at the side improvements.

[8:06] That's going to meet the main escape requirements as that phase is completed. Phase 2, 2A, and 2B also so on and so on.

[8:14] So we've kind of agreed to at this point with the applicant, the owner, that everything is not going to be met because it was approved at a certain time.

[8:24] But as time goes on and phases are completed and things are triggered, then our code even provides for this, then it will be upgraded if that's like, does that time goes on.

[8:32] And the applicant provided a phasing plan.

[8:34] You can see it's got different gray hatching or shading on it.

[8:38] But I'll come up in the recommendations later.

[8:40] One of the things that I think we should really do

[8:43] is have a detailed list of deliverables

[8:45] that happens before the X-face can commence.

[8:48] And the applicant agreed to that for a final side

[8:51] plan as well to some degree.

[8:54] So, okay.

[8:55] So, let them ask any questions on phasing there.

[8:59] Am I good to go on to the next findings in analysis?

[9:05] So,

[9:08] it's a partial redevelopment of 11 to 12 acre site with landscape improvements, parking

[9:13] area improvements, a new grocery store building that will effectively take an old building

[9:19] down to almost fully demolish and then rebuild the side of improvements painting for the other

[9:25] on-site improvements and then monument and tenants in it signage.

[9:31] There's an existing roughly 45,000 square foot public grocery store there about that's going to be

[9:39] vacated and a new 56,500 square foot grocery store will be built where the hop-in

[9:47] staples that he mattresses today. Not the same footprint but clothes.

[9:54] So that shoving

[9:55] It's built in 1970, it's a largest single, owned, single, literally owned commercial sector.

[10:00] It's got the highest visibility. It's very important to the town. So obviously it's a very important project to the town and the applicant and the owner have been very, very good doing pre-application meetings and making sure everything has been communicated and prepared for us for this preliminary meeting.

[10:14] DRC reviewed at twice, going back to September 24th, it was 2026, yes that's

[10:23] 2225, sorry about that, it has not occurred yet, good catch, chair, that was

[10:31] September 25, the second one was May 13th, 26 and all comments were addressed throughout

[10:40] those processes are at least satisfied to the point where the

[10:44] planning is on important and before that the CAB needed to recommend

[10:47] approval to move on. So a couple of quick things that just to show you

[10:51] the background of what was worked on is a lot of hard work with it to this.

[10:55] Landscape Pervious area was increased quite a bit from the initial offering

[10:59] right now we are there. We are at

[11:10] Pervious landscape area. That's a bare minimum with your approval. It's about 18.4% right now.

[11:16] So that's that's kind of where it's been worked to.

[11:19] Part of the way that that occurred was widening the frontage on part of the post office parcel.

[11:26] And that's kind of important because it's kind of one of the big kind of gold mines from Pervious area.

[11:33] But staff mines no problem to that because it's on a frontage, it's a pedestrian walkway.

[11:37] trees there now, so just one of those ways that the design team was able to get creative and

[11:43] try to expand some of that pervious area. So a little bit more background to the Community

[11:48] Parents Board. They approved a site plan, and facade improvement program, project, and

[11:57] monument signs just back in August.

[12:04] I want to point out some public comments at the CAB.

[12:08] So, neighbors in the adjacent condos came out which was good and we received calls throughout

[12:12] the week preceding it and spoke to phone callers one which did not want to be named but

[12:19] said they wanted to make sure that it was known that they were very favorable for the project

[12:24] and the neighbors had asked her things like dust control during construction some notes anecdotal

[12:30] notes on stormwater flooding from south to north into the condos to north there and just to

[12:35] sure that that could be handled on site, the east edge of the parcel site lighting was discussed

[12:41] but more in terms of security and possible dark spots and dark corners which have been

[12:48] these things don't really down to provide hide holes, you know, like this, please, please

[12:54] make all of it. And then the applicant, Eric, we were originally just wanting to know what's going

[13:02] happen with the vacant space, the old books, the grocery store once vacated,

[13:08] so, just

[13:08] got that.

[13:11] I'm quickly moving on to the key points of analysis, so I'm then moving forward to page

[13:19] six of my staff forward, and there's a couple of numbered items here,

[13:27] probably skip forward

[13:27] to mid-me.

[13:30] One more,

[13:34] let's skip, okay.

[13:36] So the push-and-pull between landscape area and parking actually kind of the big one, now that

[13:47] the applicant has a package in front of us for the plan that meets a minimum standard with

[13:52] the approval for landscape area, the question is, what can get to the 25% as a required

[14:01] but I code for everything else.

[14:04] Now, I'm going to wave this and make it

[14:06] acceptable to have 18% minimum, but the question is why?

[14:11] And it's a tug of war between parking and landscape area.

[14:15] To see if you want to have more parking,

[14:17] you take out landscape area, if you need more landscape,

[14:19] effectively comes down to parking area.

[14:21] That's some very simple.

[14:22] We've seen this before, many of our commercial sites

[14:24] that do not meet current parking requirements.

[14:28] The staff favors landscape, yeah, may or may not be a part of them, let them speak that.

[14:36] Pervious payers were used, you can see in the diagram page six, they're located per code,

[14:41] in areas off the beaten path, so to speak, in the lesser use spots, and they are tied

[14:47] to the drainage facilities underground, which is good, and are guaranteed knowledge that

[14:52] works. They're interlocking favors. The water flows to it. They're low. Go to that

[14:56] into our system. So.

[15:02] Facing plan, again, we'd like to see the phasing memorialized into the conditions of approval.

[15:12] Harmony of design and facade architecture was discussed at CAB and I'll come back to that in a moment.

[15:19] There wasn't an action or a recommended action for your planning and zoning board to consider.

[15:26] But it was just got, and I wanted to make sure that it was pointed out that the public's building itself was high quality,

[15:37] but it's deemed by the community of parents board, and they would like to see that expanded out to the other buildings.

[15:45] If you're doing a facet improvement program, and what was brought up was the one across the street.

[15:49] a chopper, saving and pumping out, they kind of did this

[15:52] whole application of the same facade it it appears.

[15:56] And this is for future phases.

[16:00] So what this board may do at final is request the app

[16:05] in fun ways, creative ways, clever ways to do this in future phases

[16:10] as they do more in-depth, tenant improvements or bigger facade

[16:15] a good group of projects that I don't want. So, memorialize that with this approval that might actually

[16:19] happen someday.

[16:23] Staff had discussed a greenway entry next slide, but these are so pretty fair.

[16:34] I don't think so. So, and this was just the DRC suggestion that ultimately was not in the final

[16:45] final plans today, because again, it takes away circulation area, it takes away parking, but

[16:51] you would have to take with significant amount of parking, but the idea was that you would turn off the highway and have this full of art like

[16:56] wind, green way, as you enter, signifying to shoppers and vehicles that this is the entrance to the store.

[17:04] Which we see in other public's other shopping centers.

[17:07] There are portions of the site that are required to have an eight foot wall between a residential area in a business.

[17:13] Some of those portions that are that that is missing is pointed out here, but

[17:18] bootstab believes that there is good reason for those gaps because of

[17:22] underground sanitary pipes and those things, and also that there's a wall there

[17:28] in the form of a building facade, and the applicant has treated that facade

[17:32] with multiple colors and additional landscaping to buffer that wall that's

[17:37] streetball. They've also improved and this doesn't really come out in the report

[17:40] because I think it was addressed fairly well, which is pedestrian and bicycle connections

[17:44] all the way through from the last one.

[17:47] They've reinforced the connection and northeast 21st-way.

[17:49] They've done some things that have been asked of from the city for a long time

[17:54] or being provided here to some degree.

[17:57] Site lighting.

[18:00] Again, there's a discussion here I think for the board to minimize spill over

[18:06] So the residential properties to the east and to provide maximum security to

[18:13] pull there.

[18:14] Remember, nine is wheel stops on bumper blocks, or largely you absence across the parking

[18:19] field.

[18:19] They are currently absent.

[18:21] Some folks might like to drive through it that way.

[18:24] Our code does require it, in most cases you should have it, or it needs to be waved by

[18:29] the other port.

[18:31] Now there are some areas where the wheel stops are within seven feet of the U.S. one,

[18:36] right away, which is prohibited, you have to be seven feet or further so that your car

[18:41] tail your car doesn't ever get involved in their right away.

[18:44] In this circumstance, I believe it's staff finds this acceptable the way that requirement

[18:49] as well.

[18:52] And then not all the buildings that foundation plant things, but in some cases, I think they're

[18:57] trench to this is one that might be discussed with the applicant to see what kind of options

[19:01] are.

[19:02] So, with that, there's just two things to point out.

[19:08] If you go to page 15 of the staff report, one of the other items at the CAB had discussed was that they're appeared to be a missing cable above the E-Licker store, and it will get not a recommendation, but I noted perception of a missing piece there.

[19:29] And then finally, recommendations and considerations.

[19:36] There's more on that paragraph applied.

[19:38] It says what I've stated before about the architectural harmony and so on.

[19:43] So, preliminary cyclone staff consideration.

[19:45] You'll see two parts.

[19:46] There's deviations required for approval, and I list out all the sections,

[19:51] and then staff recommendations, which are there for all these deviations.

[19:57] I think there's something that just the courtship.

[20:00] May be going out and see if there are acceptable tonight, so that we can prepare those for final.

[20:07] And then recommendations are things that you would have on the final side plan as conditions for approval.

[20:14] Chair, would you like me to read the recommendations?

[20:17] No, but let's get started. Susan, do you want to have any questions for today?

[20:22] But one very basic question is if you want to understand of the entire shopping system for example on the other side of the building.

[20:39] Yeah, just just one honor.

[20:41] Excuse him, can I?

[20:59] I have a question for the applicant, may I have a chance to present to you, make sure to keep that up.

[21:05] I am unaware.

[21:32] That was a full site.

[21:34] There's only one option for CAB.

[21:37] cyclan there's cyclan there's signage and then there is the facades themselves for C.A.B.

[21:42] So with there are like a master's sign plan on my semester of signage plans,

[21:46] we've made it at all for one on record for the shuttle.

[21:49] So there is there is one if you give you a from that then you must go to C.A.B. for approval of those signs.

[21:56] I can get the details. But the sign names are actually ours.

[22:00] The signs are not with our your decision correct correct correct.

[22:06] No, we're going to see it just the opposite.

[22:09] Mark, Mike.

[22:12] Is the second and third phase required?

[22:16] The other words, can they just do phase one and then be done?

[22:18] Or are they bound to do phase two?

[22:21] So that is part of what I think we should have memorialized in our approval.

[22:26] Next time is that phase one will have definite deliverables, so to speak,

[22:32] And then their legal, it's probably more of a legal question of what can be done for

[22:40] past-face one or phase one or two.

[22:44] But I think as long as they're memorialized in the approval, and that those phases are vested

[22:51] at record, I don't know what the word is, but they're bound to that approval of the phase

[22:55] one or so.

[22:55] There are other things that will help us visualize, like, for example, that dark area.

[23:04] I can't picture the facade and how the dress is that way.

[23:08] I'll see in the picture that we're drawing or something.

[23:11] The stops and the cars.

[23:13] It's just words to me.

[23:14] I would like to see a picture of the city with your talking about that.

[23:17] Well, I would say the applicant has been very good at providing renderings.

[23:20] We don't usually typically get these and they've been great.

[23:22] So I think they'll be able to ask if they might be able to provide that.

[23:25] if there's any holes in that individual.

[23:29] So I have actually two questions.

[23:30] One is, as I read this, my picture summary of this

[23:36] is there's a building that's on the east side of the property.

[23:40] We've taken that down, that's where they're putting that new public.

[23:43] Otherwise, they're just cleaning up all the rest of the buildings

[23:47] and putting new signs or doing work inside.

[23:51] But all the rest of the buildings stay.

[23:54] and they have some level of picks up or not. Is that what it seems to be?

[24:02] Yeah, the exterior walls and foundations will be changing except for something else.

[24:09] Everything else that's there is going to stay.

[24:12] And nothing other than other than the new puddles that's going to be built.

[24:15] I will say this, this is for right now.

[24:18] So the longer term vision, it will be great to have some kind of share vision as I've been always with this site, it's very important for this site plan approval that would be the case.

[24:30] Well, I'm just looking at it.

[24:31] Yeah, your assessment is corrected.

[24:33] Second is, if I've heard one thing from people, and it's nice to be a grandfather and go to the five of the six year old documents,

[24:44] You see a lot of parents who know who were kids and friends with my kids and they feel very confident

[24:55] and come up to talk with all kinds of things and one of the things they talk about is

[25:01] I haven't met any of them that don't love public. But what they don't want is having to go out to the US one to get into the local shopping center that has the public limit.

[25:15] And as I look at the phrase one, the only access that's in White House point is the one

[25:22] often 21st.

[25:24] There's no other access, even though there is two others to that.

[25:30] One of them off a sample row, and people at the one, an access on a sample row, they would

[25:37] love to be able to go back into 10 on a sample row, but they would at least like to come

[25:43] out.

[25:43] come out sample road and come into the center of an awkward sample road. So what I would like

[25:53] to be able to do when we get to the table on cyclone is require them to leave the access

[26:01] on sample road that's there now. I'm just a link in there and as they work through the other

[26:07] And we as a board, all folks to do that can be as a board, a film to do that.

[26:15] I mean, I think if you look at the state is the way that road is back and fly, but it's for the headlamp area between now and then.

[26:28] Is that, was that?

[26:30] Would that be possible?

[26:32] You can make the condition.

[26:34] That's what I mean?

[26:35] Yeah, I mean subject to reasonable, yeah, right, I mean physically you might have to have I mean it's it's just staying where it is right

[26:54] Yeah, connect.

[26:55] I really all, everybody wants, it's put about entrance on from central, and I run with

[27:01] the ghost that it currently goes to the old public, and the third thing, now this is

[27:09] from my wife, okay, so she wants you guys not to cleanse the little public, she will

[27:16] that's where she was. So we, you know, we made, I bet you convinced my fellow board,

[27:24] but we're super excited to leave that one open. Even though you have two others because she loves this one one.

[27:35] That's all I know.

[27:39] Come on. Come on up, please state your name, spell your last name,

[27:45] And have the toughness, what we want, I hope things will be helpful.

[27:50] Okay, thank you so much.

[27:51] My name is Rich Dippelito, D-I-2-P-E-S-O-L-I-T-O,

[27:57] and the Frick's More Property Group.

[27:58] We are the owners of the shopping center,

[28:00] and that's all of the faces that we're talking about.

[28:02] We own the entire property and have for some time,

[28:05] actually was acquired through a prior acquisition company acquisition.

[28:10] So it's been in house for a flight some time,

[28:12] we've been working on this deal for years.

[28:15] So we're glad to finally be here.

[28:17] We're excited about it.

[28:18] Hopefully you're excited about it.

[28:21] I think with you, everybody, I talk to you

[28:23] about this public.

[28:24] I love myself.

[28:25] So totally get that.

[28:27] That's where I always love to shop.

[28:31] So we're excited that we have this opportunity

[28:33] to build a new store.

[28:35] And is our presentation available?

[28:39] Did you make that?

[28:44] That might be helpful to kind of walk you through it.

[28:49] Help, perfect.

[28:49] Thank you.

[28:50] So here tonight with A.J.

[28:53] Pesano, who is a chemley corn.

[28:55] He is our civil engineer in Christchurch,

[28:57] who is with Washington Design Group.

[28:59] He is our architect.

[29:00] So they're here.

[29:01] To answer questions,

[29:04] and we'll do my best to keep the fully informed here.

[29:09] All right.

[29:09] If you go to the next slide.

[29:12] So you're familiar with the existing shopping center, it has been there in a long time

[29:18] and you need it upgrading.

[29:20] We know it's not just the one building that we're doing and it's up to the entire shopping

[29:24] center.

[29:25] We are aware of that despite efforts to try to do all the leasing and advance and try to

[29:30] get all this figured out so we can come up with a master plan, unfortunately we're unable

[29:34] to do that.

[29:35] A lot of tenants are depending that well.

[29:37] get the public improved and you know let's let's see what you do on there and then you know

[29:43] we want to we can come along later or starting to have some of those conversations now so that's exciting

[29:49] You know the next slide

[29:52] Just more genius of the shopping center very dated for aware and in some additional health

[30:02] So right now, we're really kind of breaking this out into four separate building.

[30:07] One is the new public building, which is located where the staples building currently is.

[30:13] That building will come completely down, so we're taking that completely out and then building a new public.

[30:20] And the reason public wanted to put a new building there versus an occurenant location is they don't want to close the current store.

[30:28] So the current store will stay open until this one, until the new one's ready, so it'll be

[30:35] it'll be seamless to the community, so we'll never lose their grocery store, which is important

[30:39] to public, so I know it's important to the community as well.

[30:42] And we're fortunate that we can accommodate that cause us some downtime for us, so we're currently

[30:48] in building A and we're talking to some potential tenants for that building right now, it's probably

[30:55] can be more than one. It is a 45,000 square foot store. More than likely it won't be

[31:01] two or more tenants. I think probably two at this point based on the conversations that

[31:06] we're having. That would be some additional replacement retail there. Building C is where the pet

[31:12] co is and the Dollar Tree, those tenants are there and they're happy they're not going anywhere.

[31:19] and then building B is where the two-story office building is, and we didn't, I guess it kind of loops down to Sample Road, but then there's the retail that's right up on Sample.

[31:32] If you go to the next, oh, and I did want to point out that, all of the access points remain.

[31:39] We're not taking any access points out, and they will remain open through construction, so you will have all of that.

[31:46] This is the post office and play it all. Is there anything you guys can do? Because I'm

[31:52] clearly I don't know what they're paying. That's a huge space that gets

[31:56] no use. And we would love to do something with that. We're actually in conversations with them.

[32:01] Nothing that I can talk about here. But we do have it as phase three. So the goal ultimately is to do

[32:06] something much nicer there. I think clearly the government's easy to deal with. I'm sure. Absolutely.

[32:14] But would you, if you could get that space, would there be any thought of chained knock them down and building a building something different there?

[32:22] That's not really in the fall part time wise.

[32:27] You know, I'm in the redevelopment group with Frick's more, and so that's all I do.

[32:35] And I've been doing development for many years.

[32:38] It's really hard to tear buildings down and build back and do, because you're tearing out

[32:44] not just the buildings, but all the infrastructure we have existing tenants.

[32:48] It's really hard to do that without getting some sort of tip funding or something like that.

[32:55] Sometimes you can get it to work, but it's really a challenge without having some sort of assistance with that.

[33:05] It just makes it almost financially and feasible.

[33:09] Not always.

[33:10] In there are times where we've been able to tear things down

[33:13] and go back up.

[33:14] In this case, we have existing tenants

[33:17] and a lot of building be, and certainly a long sample road.

[33:22] This is the new tenants in building C.

[33:25] So if we have that challenge, if we have existing places,

[33:28] so it's a balance and we do it we can with that.

[33:32] So, I answered your question.

[33:35] Okay.

[33:36] You asked the question, though.

[33:37] Absolutely.

[33:38] I'm sure there are reasons for it.

[33:40] But you know where you can drive through to drop mail office in there.

[33:44] You know, but I get out of your car.

[33:46] I think it would be more convenient if you could drive to post office and stuff

[33:50] in Florida by that little four space.

[33:55] You know, I'm talking about it.

[33:57] Okay.

[33:57] We can look at that.

[33:59] Yeah, we're in conversations with them right now, so we can see where that goes, I'll make a note of that.

[34:05] I think you have a little space in there, they can't make that whole field, you can't use that yet.

[34:09] Right, and then it was any of the parking in the back.

[34:11] Right, I don't think at any time day or night, I've never seen anybody parked back there.

[34:16] So, and we, as part of what our conversations with the now we, as mentioned earlier,

[34:23] we did take a portion of the back of that property and we're at any green space there because it's a nice area.

[34:28] It was beautiful trees coming in.

[34:31] So we're adding, we've side walk there and some new landscape things, I'll be a much more

[34:35] pleasant entry this year coming in.

[34:41] Can you make a note about the drop off at the post office?

[34:45] Thank you.

[34:48] So this is the phasing plant.

[34:49] A little hard to read here, but phased one is essentially the new publics.

[35:01] As I mentioned before, it's ground up, so we're doing a completely new building on Newark, a texture.

[35:07] It's based on publics and prototypes, but a few modifications because of the tightness of the site.

[35:13] They weren't able to have a loading dock on the back, which actually works well.

[35:16] I think in this scenario because we could get the loading away from the residential next door.

[35:21] So we're able to do a side load here, which I think is a real benefit to the community.

[35:26] But for the most part, it's kind of their basic store room that they'd like to have.

[35:31] It's their latest prototype.

[35:36] The headcode, Dollar Tree building, they're not going anywhere.

[35:39] So what we're planning on doing there, the retaining that building, using paint that matches the architecture of the public's.

[35:49] And then we do actually have a replacement for the RB's and that's in the works.

[35:52] And that we, they're going to keep the existing building and probably come in and we're going to have to go through CAB to get that figured out.

[36:00] But we're probably going to put a substitute tenant in there.

[36:04] We currently have conversations about that.

[36:07] Just something a little healthier.

[36:09] That's all I can say.

[36:16] We broke an out into two phases, phase two A. He is the existing public. As I mentioned, the plan there is to

[36:30] subdivide that into two tenants. I doubt we're going to find somebody to take the whole space. We'll just have one tenant for more than likely to.

[36:37] And when you backfill that space, we're going to put a new facade on it to match the

[36:44] public.

[36:44] So that is the intent there.

[36:45] So the goal here, overall basis long term, as we're building new buildings or putting

[36:52] in new tenants, is to upgrade the architecture to keep a, we'll call it an architectural

[36:59] theme of what the, but the public says.

[37:02] So that is the overall goal here.

[37:06] Also, on, so we're going to do that, the two-story office building is also part of phase

[37:14] 2A. Right now we're just showing that to be painted and we do have some bigger ideas

[37:20] for that. I don't have anything that is kind of pretty yet for exploring options to potentially

[37:25] do something much nicer there than we currently have, but that's something that we're

[37:36] We're committing to painting it for now as part of that later phase and we've put some

[37:42] estimated timing on the various phases.

[37:46] Phase 2V would be sample road so we'll go ahead and paint that building as I mentioned.

[37:53] It's virtually fully least I think we have one space that we're working on but some good

[37:58] tenants there and then that followed the surrounding landscaping so we'll upgrade that to

[38:03] bring it up to code, what we do base 2v, and we talked a little bit about phase 3, which

[38:10] is the post office, and we wouldn't love to do something there, that was, you know, we

[38:16] need to accommodate the post office somewhere somehow, so that's, obviously, part of the

[38:21] equation, how do we do that? But certainly there's a higher better use for that space.

[38:28] If you go to the next slide,

[38:36] just as soon as I'm on the site planning, there's a better sense of the phase one, a lot more parking.

[38:46] I'm sorry.

[38:49] A lot more landscaping, a lot of green space.

[38:54] The question did come up about, why can't we have more green space?

[38:58] The problem that we have right now is that we are at 3.4 spaces per thousand, which is a parking ratio that we have committed to keep for the shopping center.

[39:10] It's also really a ratio that we don't ever go below.

[39:15] I've been doing this for 25 years. I can't say I've ever built a shopping center as fewer than 3.4 spaces per thousand.

[39:22] It's actually well below code code is 30% below code currently.

[39:28] So I know staff has said that they'd like to see fewer spaces, but we're already far below the existing building code.

[39:36] We're comfortable at the 3.4 per thousand.

[39:40] So it would really request that we keep that as a minimum.

[39:47] Next slide, please.

[39:51] So this shows areas that we're going to be repaving so some portions of it we're going to actually replace the paving other areas we're going to do an overlay on it.

[40:00] So it's a one inch million overlay. So that just gives it a nice fresh coat. A lot of the parking lot is in good shape.

[40:08] But we're going to freshen it up and add some new. New painting while we're in there working on it. Next slide please.

[40:19] This just gives you a sense of the drainage. So adding additional drainage here. And you can see those dark shaded areas are pervious papers. So those are areas where

[40:28] Mr. Dixon had mentioned that we're putting those in to help absorb some of the storm water

[40:36] Next slide

[40:46] Yes,

[40:49] sir AJ Fissano last name is FASA, I know can we horned civil engineer on the the project here and

[40:57] I just want to touch a little bit on the drainage plan

[40:59] So, those shaded areas there that is the underground storage chambers that we're adding.

[41:07] So, we're doing improvements to the development we're adding also French train and

[41:11] or exaltation trench that will help draw down the water contain it more so there's not as much runoff

[41:18] or staging and high rainfall events and hurricanes. The previous side that we have of course for the

[41:29] and they're more of a kind of like a checkered hatch.

[41:34] I just want to just kind of,

[41:35] doesn't need the two.

[41:37] So I'll show you kind of the improvements

[41:38] that we're doing for drainage as well.

[41:40] This might have a lot of drainage problems now.

[41:43] I don't really notice that.

[41:45] So a lot of the drainage, I would say complaints

[41:48] and observations have been borne on the intersection

[41:51] and are these 20, 1, 3, and 3, 8.

[41:54] And there's no studies that show how much comes

[41:58] from the Shopping Center specifically because there's a lot of old infrastructure and some

[42:05] that are going to intertwine a little bit with the site and also the road as part of the

[42:11] city's infrastructure and their normal Earth system.

[42:14] So we've worked with the Wayne as well in public works and with Dave improving as much as

[42:20] we can as we're going to completely separate any part of the site from the city infrastructure

[42:25] and retain everything on site for at least a site.

[42:30] So that's improving as much as we can for the city and for the residents to help during hiring.

[42:35] in central area.

[42:39] Yes.

[42:39] Then parking lives in Sunday.

[42:41] Never died.

[42:44] There's a piece of the property,

[42:47] but we're on the strip that runs parallel along the narrow.

[42:50] That's where the debt floods.

[42:52] That's pretty bad right now.

[42:53] That's an ankle.

[42:55] Yes.

[42:56] And we've talked with the Wayne as well about that and trying to

[43:00] locate all discharge and meeting all state and

[43:03] counting requirements as well for retaining rainfall during storm events.

[43:14] But that's what I just wanted to add some clarification.

[43:17] Yeah, so that dark areas underground.

[43:21] Yes.

[43:22] Correct.

[43:22] Yeah, I've misstated that.

[43:24] I apologize.

[43:25] Thank you, AJ.

[43:28] This line shows the new public's elevation.

[43:30] So this is based on public's prototype, and we've added some additional materials,

[43:36] materials to it, to enhance it a little bit.

[43:42] Public's typically does not put a cable over liquor store, so this is their standard

[43:47] prototype that's why there's not one there. It's not missing. It's just, it's not part of their

[43:53] typical design. I think the CAB is looking for a little bit or a little more symmetry,

[44:00] but it still wouldn't be symmetrical,

[44:05] so just wanted to answer that question that's really

[44:09] just part of the design. So we can talk about that personally like it, certainly look for

[44:20] guidance on that.

[44:26] Yeah, and then so these are renderings that give you a view of the public,

[44:30] as you're coming in.

[44:35] Next slide.

[44:43] Next slide. This kind of escapes back. You can see the

[44:50] tower and the former public there working on some interesting ideas on what to do with those

[44:55] buildings. I don't have anything to show you yet. Certainly, I need to come back to CAB.

[45:00] We're ready to do it, but we need to do it in conjunction with getting new tenants.

[45:08] So that's all in process.

[45:12] Next slide.

[45:15] Just another view of the public you can see here on the left hand side that shows the drive through the pharmacy.

[45:23] And one of the questions I did come up on this is why didn't we have a wall around the backside of this.

[45:30] of the pharmacy drive through, and it's really for security reasons.

[45:36] We do have a lot of vegetation back there, so it holds screen the lights.

[45:40] We do have the wall on the west side of the property for the residents there.

[45:50] Next slide.

[45:54] So this is coming in.

[45:55] This really shows you as you're coming in off

[46:01] by the post office.

[46:04] That's when 21st.

[46:05] So this is kind of standing in that post office area, gives you the sense of the loading

[46:11] dock and there was a little bit of concern about exposure to quite see here, but on the right

[46:16] hand side you can see the loading dock wall and one of the benefits of having the loading

[46:24] on the side here is it's no longer exposed to the residential community behind us, so we really

[46:32] like the idea, we're actually a force to do it because we're at a space because it's

[46:36] facing so tight, but by putting it on the side, the loading really faces into the shopping

[46:42] center. So from the streets standpoint, from a residential standpoint, you're not looking

[46:47] right into the loading area, which we feel pretty comfortable with, looks pretty good. Next slide.

[46:55] That's awesome.

[46:58] We're giving the trucks come in.

[47:00] What's the movement of the trucks?

[47:04] You want to speak to that?

[47:08] The proposed access points for the truck are going to be off 20 first way.

[47:13] It gives the best ease of access into the sites of the trucks.

[47:18] Yes, it gives the one choice.

[47:21] So on the right side of the screen,

[47:24] on the right side of the screen, there it is, the act is off 21st

[47:31] way, trucks will come in, they'll have a hole and then back into the truck loading

[47:37] dock. That gives a lot of space for the trucks and not going to be parked in the

[47:42] intersection and not going to appear with a pedestrian safely or any of the

[47:48] patrons that are coming in and we've provided sufficient depth for the trucks as

[47:54] So they can back into the loading dock and then they will pull out.

[47:58] They can leave US-1, we'll be providing sufficient radius return so they have good ease of

[48:04] egress out of the site and that's the best flow that we need to propose to you for the site.

[48:11] So we'll go through the parking lot through the key threshold.

[48:17] So they will come off and they'll come off and 20 firsts away or they'll come into the site

[48:21] point first and then it will be into US wanting or they will need South in the sample road as well.

[48:29] But to the US-1, egress is the best the street out will take a take a take a take a ride.

[48:37] Yes.

[48:37] But that's where all the comments you are, which are going to be a deal with the breakers.

[48:51] I think that's why I want to sample wrote and print them actually still open.

[49:00] Because then people from light on point can come in and out there instead of working

[49:06] about twenty quarters put this delivery process.

[49:09] All right.

[49:09] So I think it's look at people

[49:11] as a delivery to be a reasonable

[49:14] have a job with them.

[49:16] They're the same.

[49:17] They're the same way the people can be the the other way.

[49:21] I'm very concerned you have to work with them.

[49:24] How many of the trucks do you have in the house?

[49:27] And what time were they there?

[49:29] Because I'm there a lot.

[49:30] And I can't remember ever seeing me.

[49:32] Yeah, don't they deliver at before they deliver at the port itself?

[49:36] So people don't come to the shuttle center for you.

[49:38] Yeah, public doesn't really stop during the day.

[49:41] They'd like to do that stuff early in the morning or at night.

[49:44] So, I mean, you'll see people out there, but the deliveries are primarily early, early, early, or early in the morning.

[49:50] It doesn't mean that trucks don't come or a vendor or a commerce or something like that.

[49:54] Yeah, we can't put it in the water, we can't put it in the water.

[49:57] So that's it.

[50:16] Yeah, I have to talk to the public about that specifically. I just know from experience.

[50:22] This is a preliminary point.

[50:26] Yeah.

[50:26] It is something we could ask you to talk about.

[50:31] Okay.

[50:32] Could you tell us a question?

[50:33] Why don't let's let him get done.

[50:35] Okay.

[50:36] Ask him.

[50:39] There's two other items that were discussed earlier.

[50:42] I didn't touch on.

[50:43] Mark's one is the site lighting for security purposes.

[50:47] We now currently have a couple wallpacks on the back of

[50:52] publics, we could add additional lighting there on 21st because I wasn't concerned, expressed

[50:57] by the community to have additional lighting back there, so we're open to that, also on

[51:02] the north side, if that's something that you all would like to see.

[51:07] We are required by code to limit the amount of spillover, so with your approval, we can

[51:18] that we're fine with that. We just need to have your approval to do that. Then the other item

[51:24] was about foundation landscaping. On the new building we have foundation landscaping, the other building

[51:31] doesn't have any because it doesn't currently exist. So we could add some plant orders or do

[51:37] something that nature to add landscape around that building if you feel it would be appropriate.

[51:43] But other than that, AJA or Chris, did you have additional comments you want to make on any

[51:49] enzymes or presentation purposes?

[52:03] So we had discussed having wheelstumps throughout the property and that is something we

[52:10] didn't prefer not to do.

[52:12] We find them to be a tripping hazard and people don't necessarily expect them to be there

[52:16] drive over London. We put them in areas where we feel they're appropriate, but just to have

[52:22] them spread out throughout the parking lot seem to be from a management standpoint they tend

[52:30] to be more of a problem than they're solving anything.

[53:01] Well thank you and certainly I'm not going

[53:04] anywhere to believe me. Why don't we start with you Michael? What questions do you have?

[53:09] All right. I just have a couple of that. I don't understand that the side of an area of wall that's not being built to a poor cabin.

[53:16] They green to somebody hanging out back there.

[53:20] What's, what's, can you just describe with the, how the facade,

[53:24] as in, can you do it that?

[53:25] I'm picturing the side of the top of a roof, something like that.

[53:28] Picture it, or if that doesn't do it, keep going through it.

[53:31] Well, it's really, it's the wall on the backside of the drive that we're talking about.

[53:36] There are drawing or anything I can see that we do.

[53:44] We have that elevation.

[53:45] Okay. All right, I'd like to see that.

[53:47] I mean, I think I'm sure public took a lot of say

[53:51] what they are doing and what they do.

[53:55] I would at least have a discussion with them that I agree with.

[53:58] Sure, I'm concerned about the truck mercy.

[54:01] And it's just seemed to me, I'm surprised they're going through the parking lot

[54:05] and not having to come out and understand what the road seems to be

[54:09] shorter way out with a least amount of people that they might need to.

[54:14] Versus, don't worry to them.

[54:17] Or park and like, we get people less one.

[54:19] And that way they can turn right or left.

[54:22] One of you has to want to go straight to 95.

[54:24] There are not the trucks not that big.

[54:25] You step going north.

[54:26] And the last one.

[54:30] On the sample road, you dress or the first two actors.

[54:34] The first two actors point, saw the sample road.

[54:37] The east and the west.

[54:38] On the east one, the trucks can leave out of that drive.

[54:42] There's nothing that's progressing up from doing that.

[54:45] I'm saying discuss with the public maybe make that the very out versus they can do whatever they want.

[54:55] So the way that a doc is positioned right now, they can go west.

[55:00] On the sample road, if we orientated, it's going to cause a truck to come east off the U.S. one into the site.

[55:11] That would just kind of be a music point too, so we're trying to give them more active points.

[55:18] But we're not removing the active points that are now. We're not adding, but we are improving off of 21st.

[55:24] I was just concerned about disrupting me, I was a part new one.

[55:29] I know they're usually there in the morning, but I think it's a picture.

[55:34] There's often cars you're walking around.

[55:37] We need to get out of there.

[55:42] I tend to agree with what they're saying.

[55:46] Because that's one of the reasons why I wanted to sample drugs.

[55:50] to have, I didn't care who's the subject of the West.

[55:54] I entered with that's fine to have, but the East entry, which is why a lot of people

[55:59] used to come in and out of that center, that seems to me to be the safest way for the

[56:05] Department to get off the volume of darkness on the new part, get off the volume of darkness.

[56:11] If they're on sample, they can go west, they can go south, and they can go north at the

[56:17] And they have a light, so the light should be my view, say whatever you think.

[56:24] And if you put the trucks up in the light, the trucks have every option available to.

[56:31] And if you just have to go out, you have to keep the sample row on entrance and exit.

[56:36] And have the trucks go down.

[56:38] I agree.

[56:39] I don't want to do that.

[56:40] It seems so simple.

[56:41] So you're referring to when a truck leaves the dock to make a left to go out to sample versus

[56:47] going straight. Right. Yeah. Yeah. They make a lot of go to go to sample. They get on sample.

[56:53] First thing was they hit the light and they can either go to some West or North at that

[57:00] light. Yeah. We can we can talk to them about. Yeah.

[57:03] Can you have a seat? Can you have a seat? I want to go from here.

[57:06] Okay. Certainly. Can you bring up a seat one more bullet on the front of your back?

[57:12] But that's your truck action.

[57:16] That's what it says.

[57:16] It doesn't appear to be, you know.

[57:18] That's what it says.

[57:19] You can do what you're saying.

[57:22] I think we don't have the distance.

[57:23] She's walking it up.

[57:26] I think this is probably the distance.

[57:28] I think this is probably the distance.

[57:29] It's the distance.

[57:30] It's the distance.

[57:37] Or maybe maybe we could...

[57:40] Maybe we should ask them that they should show that traffic pattern

[57:44] on the C1 of four, the community report,

[57:47] so the turning rate, the idea of turning it out,

[57:50] making the left and the left and the left.

[57:52] Yeah, we just have to our engineer.

[57:54] We can make that work, and we can talk to publics

[57:57] about operationally making sure trucks don't go there.

[58:00] We can put up no truck access along that drive.

[58:04] We're happy to do that.

[58:07] I mean, realistically, truck drivers kind of do their own thing,

[58:11] but we can try to fit that door.

[58:12] the small puppets, no out to 24th, and they go west to the light, and they, again, can

[58:21] go out, they don't need to go, they, they're going to go west to their puppets, but they haven't

[58:25] turned, they go south, they go north. So I mean, I can't imagine the puppets doesn't refer to

[58:31] have a position like that. They probably would be fine with that, I would think. We would

[58:40] that trucks would find their way there because you're right. That's the better access for them.

[58:45] But we can try to, you know, try to force that to happen.

[58:49] All the people.

[58:51] Is it they go out to federal?

[58:54] They're basically committed almost to going out to the two weeks ago.

[58:58] You're going north.

[58:59] You're going north.

[59:00] You're going north.

[59:00] They're going north to southwest.

[59:02] Tencent.

[59:03] Well, that may be because they're where the public's fisheries and seven.

[59:14] But they can go to that if they go out and want to just send them.

[59:18] I mean this is not like the camp code.

[59:19] They can go to the camp code.

[59:20] They can need that for that risk.

[59:22] And find any options to correct.

[59:25] Trying to figure out where they go.

[59:26] And then they don't go to the loop.

[59:28] They don't go to the loop.

[59:29] They don't go to the loop.

[59:31] But don't want to sample them.

[59:32] They want to take them here for the rent.

[59:35] They want to use them.

[59:36] They got to sample.

[59:36] Michael, you were a couple.

[59:47] I'm sorry, here is the, here is the, there is a bit behind the look in the city.

[59:51] You have the validation for the facade, where the wall is.

[59:55] Yes.

[59:57] Did you want to?

[59:57] Can you talk about the truck access first?

[59:59] No, I think I'm.

[1:00:03] I think you had asked for the site planning, it's up there.

[1:00:19] I wouldn't know if you had had a quick turning rate now and come to the end of that document.

[1:00:31] So I think that's something that you can just keep dressed on that.

[1:00:51] And we can show the truck route going south.

[1:00:56] And we can show that revision.

[1:00:57] However, I mean, I, and we have to write comments yet, but I have other issues with that.

[1:01:07] Michael, do you have anything else?

[1:01:10] Well, I think this is the subject. We can do it.

[1:01:12] We can have a time tonight.

[1:01:14] We have to decide.

[1:01:14] We wanted to make more comment.

[1:01:16] I see a sample wrote as an entrance to the city,

[1:01:19] so I know that it's on the labor page,

[1:01:21] but I'd be very confused about it.

[1:01:23] More you can do it to make a sample wrote.

[1:01:27] There's a lot of people's travel on this example road and it hasn't looked nice for a long time.

[1:01:46] I'm sorry it was a specific question on the elevation.

[1:01:49] I was wondering to see where the walls now being built.

[1:01:52] They were talking about solving that with the sun.

[1:01:54] I don't understand what that means.

[1:02:09] And there are a lot to see.

[1:02:11] Our presentation of color and elevation.

[1:02:44] One, I want to wait.

[1:02:46] I'm back to that.

[1:02:47] I want to add it to that.

[1:02:49] Everybody's there.

[1:02:49] Is there any more questions?

[1:02:51] My only question, would you do the current public film

[1:02:56] that I can't remember if that's the year seen?

[1:02:59] Are you planning to match the side of the gate walls

[1:03:02] and all that?

[1:03:03] Would you redo that or just make it a little nicer?

[1:03:06] No, we've made it complimentary.

[1:03:09] So I mentioned earlier that we really

[1:03:11] look at the new public says an architectural theme

[1:03:15] for the center.

[1:03:16] So we do a new building.

[1:03:17] we would draw off the architectural elements there, which that looks like whether has gable

[1:03:22] some of them. But I'm pretty sure that they're matching. Yeah, that's the intention.

[1:03:25] But then there's no plans for the heat heat, petmark building to actually be brought up to that

[1:03:31] similar standard. Not at the moment, because we have existing tenants there, so as those tenants change,

[1:03:38] it'll give us an opportunity to upgrade the facade.

[1:03:44] But that's, you know, we're happy to

[1:03:48] admit to that being the architectural theme for the center as we upgrade

[1:03:54] it.

[1:03:57] Can you come up here and look at this?

[1:03:59] Yes.

[1:04:02] This is the big, and you're, can't believe it.

[1:04:06] It is.

[1:04:07] We can't believe it.

[1:04:09] This is the vehicle route.

[1:04:13] Yep.

[1:04:14] I assume you guys would prefer to do this.

[1:04:16] And it looks like the somehow you've got these trucks coming in and going out.

[1:04:23] Now, on U.S. want no travel dates that turn with it, that doesn't make sense.

[1:04:30] Then you're coming down right through the whole project.

[1:04:36] And you have to, if you're coming in, you have to somehow back into this loading bag,

[1:04:43] or you have 20 first, probably on the sample of what?

[1:04:47] come 21st to come up here and back up into here. This is the sample road, where we call you to do this come out of here and go here to sample road.

[1:05:00] And get on sample, run and go up here to the right. It's beyond me to understand how you've designed this sport.

[1:05:08] Well, the entrance is actually a lot of 21st July, so that I would come up here and turn in and back in when they're exiting.

[1:05:16] They go up here. So, thank you. Do that anyway. It's one of the reasons that we're leaving here, right?

[1:05:22] It's not going through the entire or separate.

[1:05:26] Are you going up here to an ocean?

[1:05:27] If they leave the point, they leave on the sample.

[1:05:30] They get the sample in the intersection.

[1:05:32] They have the option.

[1:05:34] No, anyway.

[1:05:35] No, exactly.

[1:05:35] With a one.

[1:05:36] I could hear you.

[1:05:37] With a one.

[1:05:39] Without making a turn that takes up three things.

[1:05:41] So I don't get why you're not using this one.

[1:05:46] And why you're using the balance.

[1:05:48] That makes absolutely no sense.

[1:05:49] there's no objection to you to know where it's currently the truck's in that town

[1:05:54] for the most time.

[1:05:55] Yeah, you know the building now is here.

[1:05:58] And they come in here and they come in here.

[1:06:00] It doesn't make a decision.

[1:06:03] There's no...

[1:06:04] Man, it's hurting, right.

[1:06:05] Is there to that?

[1:06:06] Yes, sir.

[1:06:07] Because they do it now.

[1:06:08] Well, we know.

[1:06:09] Now they're over here, but when they're back in there, they have to be able.

[1:06:13] That's what I'm saying.

[1:06:13] He needs the shovel.

[1:06:14] Pull out.

[1:06:15] He needs the shovel as tools.

[1:06:16] And they see how it needs your nails.

[1:06:18] in this area.

[1:06:19] And it will work.

[1:06:20] It's just, from Senator's office that they did, if he was an engineer in South, I'm going

[1:06:25] to show the answer to the request that we can show the answer.

[1:06:27] No, they did.

[1:06:29] They're not leaving the dialogue.

[1:06:31] They're only going west this far.

[1:06:33] Then they're going north.

[1:06:35] And that's it.

[1:06:35] No choice, but you're going north.

[1:06:37] I'm not going to leave it.

[1:06:38] I'm going to leave it.

[1:06:39] This is a good thing we have to do for our station.

[1:06:41] Go on.

[1:06:42] Yes.

[1:06:43] He and this guy, so I'm very short distance to go.

[1:07:17] But you know, Susan is better because she's also worried and she can think much better than I am.

[1:07:26] But this person looks on the same, I mean, I would have hired her somebody to hand out cards.

[1:07:33] Because there's just a lot of, just it seems, because look, look at your name and put it on the back.

[1:07:39] This is just a turning dive range to show, they're not helpful to do this, but you can see the interagent,

[1:07:54] that's the sound side of the top side of the pitch, and that's in conjunction with

[1:08:00] Honda like to see this entrance and exit the stable, that will step in.

[1:08:05] It's not on a new site plan for phase 1.

[1:08:08] On the phasing point, we share the full site.

[1:08:11] This is more of the site, the pavement gradient utility.

[1:08:15] It's more shrunk in the app for improvements as happening in this one.

[1:08:18] And then the phasing pleasure for full site and job on site, like a trip for full site.

[1:08:21] Yeah, it doesn't show that for a phase one, it doesn't show anything on the road beyond where

[1:08:29] you're going to look at it.

[1:08:32] And for the intent, it's because we're not too easy for things.

[1:08:35] Down there, we'll just be the phase one and more focused around the new public area.

[1:08:40] And the surround they have is anything more.

[1:08:42] So it's going to stay exactly the same as it is.

[1:08:44] Yes, correct.

[1:08:45] But we need to somehow say that.

[1:08:48] But we can say it through.

[1:08:51] I'll be able to say it, it's just an access to the room.

[1:08:56] I'll be back in a minute, I'll catch you.

[1:08:59] The most?

[1:09:00] This one.

[1:09:03] If you can have a little bit of a few more pages,

[1:09:05] I'll be back in a minute.

[1:09:07] I'll be back in a minute.

[1:09:07] This one? Yes.

[1:09:11] Which one?

[1:09:12] It's going to be C100.

[1:09:30] See, I'll be back in a minute.

[1:09:31] See, I'll be back in a minute.

[1:09:32] That's good.

[1:09:34] But I want something to make it clear with this distance.

[1:09:38] the faves in the land.

[1:09:41] My sister is the faves in the sea of the opposite way.

[1:09:53] These are the faves in the faves of one.

[1:09:57] Does the half this India.

[1:10:08] We're not touching any access points, they're all over the

[1:10:14] country, but we're not going anywhere, we're not going anywhere.

[1:10:38] So that's some sort of large picture questions.

[1:10:42] We're going to draw in questions.

[1:10:45] Just a large picture.

[1:10:47] I mean, and I don't.

[1:10:49] Just to my presentation.

[1:10:52] So we have a public.

[1:10:53] We call it public here in Canada.

[1:10:55] So I know it's a public here in 24 or something like that.

[1:10:59] Down on the open.

[1:11:01] And then we have this board.

[1:11:03] and then there's more across the river.

[1:11:08] It was a public, I'm sure they've done markets that way.

[1:11:13] One of the concerns, if this were plantations,

[1:11:16] you'd have to assume you had markets there.

[1:11:19] We don't require that, but just to be sure,

[1:11:22] or it's actually hearing from you, that that's been looked at

[1:11:25] and that one of these stores won't go far if you're $1.9.

[1:11:28] There's not enough market to support these stores,

[1:11:34] I will have to ask that question of them. I don't know if they've done a market

[1:11:38] studying out of what their plans are for future tourists. I don't know if they would

[1:11:41] tell me, but I certainly can ask the question. They certainly wouldn't be investing

[1:11:46] all this money in this store if they're planning on closing at any time soon, but I understand

[1:11:50] the concern is for the other ones.

[1:11:52] I don't know if they have to stay at least one year or so.

[1:11:56] Yeah, I don't know.

[1:11:57] So, if I think it's a fair question, I think I've worked with you there.

[1:12:05] And then in terms of the future basis, I know I already have some questions about everybody has.

[1:12:10] It's hard to evaluate this size of a site plan in terms of how trucks move vehicles move and everything else.

[1:12:18] You don't really have a sense of what's coming.

[1:12:21] And what's going to happen with the post office, we keep all of our very good understanding

[1:12:26] of how that story, how important it is to document, so we like to think it at that

[1:12:33] light, that's quite an outstanding community, and some of the dear students, and we want

[1:12:37] to ensure that what they put here is outstanding community here, and this is important.

[1:12:43] So I think if we have a sense of what you do, I'm in for instance in this thing you talk

[1:12:50] I'm going to don't think that you are wearing the foot post office and get somewhere in that old space.

[1:12:55] They don't even want space at all, you can run away from the bag and hang a nice clean out car solar on it.

[1:13:01] There's that road.

[1:13:03] If we had some sense of that, we would give this a better understanding.

[1:13:07] There's what I'm right in terms of this.

[1:13:10] What happens?

[1:13:11] We go all of this activity that enters what was the first place right now.

[1:13:15] I look at that site plan.

[1:13:17] And I just need a tremendous collage of movement, very tight, a lot of spotting.

[1:13:26] So, and it's kind of that way now, it's not the best, but it's not the same tense.

[1:13:30] We have a lot of different voting styles.

[1:13:32] I think there are two big ones in the middle of the one.

[1:13:36] So, I have cars, trucks, moving.

[1:13:39] I have cars coming in.

[1:13:41] I have pedestrians walking, and then they get to that intersection.

[1:13:46] and everybody has to do something at that end of the set.

[1:13:50] See that when you smoke the stop signs.

[1:13:54] A lot of times I'm sorry I've drunk too far here.

[1:13:56] There's like a lunge.

[1:13:58] Mark Ross, for you guys who are taking part in the lecture.

[1:14:03] But how this city works with people,

[1:14:07] the sample is our main gateway.

[1:14:10] Anybody in the north of Sample pretty typically

[1:14:13] He comes with that shopping center, the most part, down by the street drive.

[1:14:19] He's at around thirty-nine.

[1:14:20] All right, first of all, hey, let's sample.

[1:14:22] You're always coming in that entrance during the year.

[1:14:25] You have the end.

[1:14:26] Anybody south?

[1:14:27] Pretty much the same thing.

[1:14:29] So it's kind of like the light outside.

[1:14:31] And there are a lot of people in the light outside.

[1:14:35] The light is quite dry.

[1:14:37] There it is.

[1:14:38] It's kind of our kind of society's view.

[1:14:41] So lots of people will walk on that.

[1:14:44] I don't know if it's because it's in my place, you know,

[1:14:48] I don't know if it's a place to walk in front.

[1:14:50] So I think that walking is the invite.

[1:14:52] So one of my thoughts, words,

[1:14:55] I have to bring with the idea,

[1:14:56] not to have the hate of walking.

[1:14:58] I think they'll need to go up with that.

[1:15:01] An undefensible space that I'm sure I've used the button with the working out that space between the wall and the building.

[1:15:07] We really are, it would be hard to put place in principle.

[1:15:13] So I grew that, but then that's an opportunity, and I see taking the first sign, well, there's a very nice thing.

[1:15:19] And maybe enhance that walk voice, especially in the winter time, when it gets dark early,

[1:15:25] people walking, so I know you have some ball packs, maybe if there's a tree there, you might

[1:15:32] think about some landscape lighting, trees, and would be possible to maybe think of that

[1:15:37] wall on the back as a green wall, maybe something like that,

[1:15:43] but why is it red and something

[1:15:48] to be just a much nicer experience to come to that work.

[1:15:53] Not as many people walking down federal,

[1:15:55] but they're walking down to one of those places.

[1:15:58] Church City's invested in great deal

[1:15:59] are from the Applied Project, this is the fire station.

[1:16:02] So it runs pretty much like a very basic and on our part,

[1:16:07] a city mission was smart enough to know

[1:16:10] that they want to respect that location to people

[1:16:13] with the city, so they did a very nice building.

[1:16:21] So we want to make sure that the concept is continued and it makes that an access point that makes it

[1:16:28] that we just lived here a lot there about the end of this.

[1:16:31] You don't know,

[1:16:35] I'm trying to convince myself that we should initially, I looked at the story and I wanted to talk it over this way.

[1:16:43] and the restore of the lowly dark of the north end of the front, pharmacy at the south end.

[1:16:53] And then you can come in on 21st or you can actually come in on sample on working way.

[1:16:57] And back up into that, I don't know if that was ever considered.

[1:17:01] I'd like to hear if it ever was.

[1:17:03] It would be much nicer way than in all that instance.

[1:17:07] If it's in the possibility, then I would think we'd be able to spend it in times when they can make the difference.

[1:17:12] Right. And I really like to see if you can figure out what's put up the way.

[1:17:20] It's very known to me as pedestrian across the entry road to get in the walkway.

[1:17:25] It's just on the south side of the entry road.

[1:17:28] So you can cross the road or the cross go at the example road.

[1:17:33] So you can then cross the road where you have trucks going out now.

[1:17:37] So you can now go backwards on yourself so you can get in the public.

[1:17:40] to bring up the grind that's kind of what the best green pattern is.

[1:17:46] There's some way that we can just let him come in on that.

[1:17:49] Northside.

[1:17:50] Yeah.

[1:17:50] It's a little hard to see on the screen maybe if we could look at it.

[1:17:54] Yeah.

[1:17:55] Yeah.

[1:17:56] Might be helping it all life.

[1:17:57] I think he knows what I'm talking about.

[1:18:00] AJ, do we have to look at the flipping?

[1:18:04] Follow that.

[1:18:06] Yeah.

[1:18:06] More than you know.

[1:18:08] What are you going to do with the pump?

[1:18:11] Like the pump too, like the river is the one there, and the pump is there.

[1:18:15] And the pump is, and the pump is the one you can do there about 50, but yeah,

[1:18:19] but I'm here, let me show you how it goes.

[1:18:22] It's pretty hard here, but on this drawing, since we don't want to open it,

[1:18:26] I want to set it a little bit.

[1:18:28] So I see one in the strip, any side.

[1:18:31] That can be seen on the area as well.

[1:18:33] So I'm going to put the string on the floor and the truck to put that half of the

[1:18:37] one foot over there, and I'm going to put it on the 21st place.

[1:18:40] And that would call us.

[1:18:41] Well they could come in on sample.

[1:18:44] The orientation to be the truck to actually...

[1:18:48] They could actually still come in up to 21st place.

[1:18:51] They could actually still come in up to 21st place.

[1:18:51] Make a right turn.

[1:18:52] He has the right turn.

[1:18:53] He's turning up to the long-digh dollar.

[1:18:56] And he's back in the truck line.

[1:18:58] And then he could just straight out about it apart.

[1:19:04] I think it's fine.

[1:19:05] I think it's fine.

[1:19:10] We can look at you.

[1:19:12] So that's one problem.

[1:19:16] If you come back and say,

[1:19:18] hey guys, it's just impossible.

[1:19:19] Can you take this one?

[1:19:21] Yeah.

[1:19:22] An accessibility plan.

[1:19:24] Thank you very much.

[1:19:26] So right now

[1:19:28] to come if you're walking here, you have to cross this entrance.

[1:19:34] So you can walk on this side, see if you come here.

[1:19:39] So you can cross this road that goes out.

[1:19:42] So you can walk here, see if you can cross this road,

[1:19:45] where you have the perks come out.

[1:19:47] So you can now cross this parking out.

[1:19:49] So you can come back and where you can get your problems.

[1:19:52] If you can just come in on this side somehow,

[1:19:54] to be right there. So we have the people crossing the one who's on the sidewalk and on the right

[1:20:00] So they have to deal with vehicles by time.

[1:20:08] Is there a reason we don't want people walking in that way?

[1:20:21] there's right now that's like me listening,

[1:20:23] but I'm not afraid of both there.

[1:20:25] And it's kind of a share of split access

[1:20:27] with the communities that have aren't, but we know cars.

[1:20:35] Yes, there could be an option to put aside

[1:20:38] walking here, and I think the people

[1:20:41] are of constraints with the fall of some landscaping

[1:20:45] and the drive through, and then, you know,

[1:20:48] that should have to cross through the project well within here.

[1:20:52] We can see the look and see the thick and thin, but the south side with that area,

[1:21:00] we'll probably talk more about that.

[1:21:02] We'll put that strength to put something in between the trucks.

[1:21:06] The trucks won't be there, they're in the dead.

[1:21:09] It's almost, it's almost taken for a look by the front of everyone.

[1:21:14] Which is they give the cat to say,

[1:21:15] You see cars coming in here, lots of cars coming in here.

[1:21:18] I think I could have just probably sold a car.

[1:21:20] That's where I go. That's where I go.

[1:21:22] Do you know who I am?

[1:21:23] I can't remember.

[1:21:24] Because I come down 39 tonight.

[1:21:26] Oh, yeah, it's got to come on.

[1:21:28] I don't want to say.

[1:21:28] I come on.

[1:21:29] It depends on what kind of light it is.

[1:21:30] Yeah.

[1:21:32] But I just think I'm a local pedestrian.

[1:21:34] One interaction with cars.

[1:21:37] Another interaction with cars.

[1:21:39] I don't know.

[1:21:39] I think I should have a good way.

[1:21:40] Another interaction with cars.

[1:21:42] Another interaction with cars.

[1:21:43] Other than that, because if we put it in, just a lot, that there's where it gets required, but you don't have to add it.

[1:21:58] What's over there?

[1:21:59] And there's on the other side is what?

[1:22:01] That's what we do.

[1:22:03] We are proposing an access in between the wall for pedestrians to come along this year and go into the site.

[1:22:11] are you on it?

[1:22:13] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:22:15] I see that.

[1:22:16] Can you come from 24.

[1:22:18] There's going to come from 24.

[1:22:20] They could walk from here, but we don't

[1:22:23] We're not showing us, so we are right.

[1:22:25] It's on the right.

[1:22:27] I think that's right.

[1:22:28] I think that's right.

[1:22:28] That's right.

[1:22:29] We didn't need the wall.

[1:22:30] That would be a slight walk in there.

[1:22:34] You know, I think you just come and say what I'm just like.

[1:22:39] Let's go.

[1:23:09] All right, so those are my concerns.

[1:23:11] I have a question.

[1:23:14] Okay.

[1:23:15] What do you want to do?

[1:23:16] What do you want to do?

[1:23:16] Do you want to do one?

[1:23:17] Let's look at this line of all here.

[1:23:19] We do better.

[1:23:20] Right there.

[1:23:21] We're loading.

[1:23:22] I don't know.

[1:23:23] I don't like the concentration of exit.

[1:23:27] Yeah.

[1:23:27] Huge amount.

[1:23:29] That's what that means.

[1:23:30] That's what that means.

[1:23:31] That's what it means.

[1:23:33] That's what it means.

[1:23:34] That's what it means.

[1:23:35] That's what it means.

[1:23:36] That's what it means.

[1:23:38] That's what it means.

[1:23:39] And then from the trucks, they have one bay now, and I've got a great box, and sometimes I'm here with that truck.

[1:23:46] Sometimes it's hard to ride in the middle gear, but they're not ready to drive.

[1:23:51] But if you flip-flop it, you're going to have all the traffic from the pharmacy.

[1:23:55] So, six and one.

[1:23:56] Oh, yeah.

[1:23:57] I'm not, I'm not pushing the foot to the pedal.

[1:24:00] I'm thinking, how do you feel about the car?

[1:24:03] rather than a different breakfast.

[1:24:06] Right.

[1:24:07] Sidewalk.

[1:24:07] There would be music.

[1:24:09] Or they could even put a little door back there.

[1:24:11] Sidewalk.

[1:24:11] There would be great things.

[1:24:14] Yeah.

[1:24:15] I would stop my problem and then it's something

[1:24:17] a bad don't deliver.

[1:24:19] And they have a running up.

[1:24:20] Yeah.

[1:24:20] They have a running up.

[1:24:21] It's not a proper spot.

[1:24:22] I wouldn't stop.

[1:24:24] I wouldn't stop.

[1:24:25] We did look at it.

[1:24:26] I don't have it.

[1:24:27] So we put a sidewalk on that.

[1:24:29] I don't have it.

[1:24:30] I don't have it.

[1:24:31] I don't have it.

[1:24:31] I think it's a good design.

[1:24:32] I'm so happy.

[1:24:33] I'm happy.

[1:24:37] I'm happy.

[1:24:39] I'm happy.

[1:24:41] So we put a side long, long gear into the wall, the side long, it's nice landscape

[1:24:47] here.

[1:24:48] I think the purpose of the wall is to treat the night.

[1:24:52] It's a black line.

[1:24:54] But the attention comes.

[1:24:55] It's just the noise.

[1:24:57] That is the only thing.

[1:24:58] That is the golden noise.

[1:25:03] What else would you be able to do when you put the bill in front of the door, and as a case, in particular, all of that should be pulled off to be given, but as I walk the day soon, if I see you, if you could ask me, I would say, if you pull something at the P&C, so you're letting things somewhere happen to have the same intent as the door to provide you all of that.

[1:25:28] and the people who work over there have been a separate system.

[1:25:31] I'm going to turn this over to the wall.

[1:25:32] I'm going to turn this over to the wall.

[1:25:33] I'm going to turn this over to the wall.

[1:25:35] There's a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a spiritual type area.

[1:25:39] And this is a very dry way.

[1:25:42] Do you have room for a small way to the condom that provides way there?

[1:25:46] If there's an epidient, the question is there in that room for a long way.

[1:25:50] There are some utilities under there too.

[1:25:54] I mean, you brought a stick with it this way.

[1:25:56] If you put that sidewalk in there, all of the people in the condoms and apartments can walk there and not have to even walk the way then a couple of them.

[1:26:08] I don't think they're sure great, but if you try and buy there during the day, you look at that space.

[1:26:14] And they already have a gate here that they're going to keep.

[1:26:17] I used to put the gate, I used to drive in and out.

[1:26:25] I'm just, you know, remember the practice of the practice that we're absolutely

[1:26:31] community.

[1:26:33] That's all I've heard.

[1:26:35] It's a very, very, very, very, very, very sort of mechanism.

[1:26:38] I've heard a pretty black exercise coming in.

[1:26:41] And I'm just trying, it's been a lot of money in this entire organization.

[1:26:45] I think this street is just so critical.

[1:26:47] People who are close to our perspective, talk looks at it.

[1:26:50] and now we have community rooms in the fire station.

[1:26:53] This experience that here can be experienced very important.

[1:26:57] Not only at the best case, but also at the most important.

[1:26:59] Sure, these guys are happy to make this as nice as you would.

[1:27:03] Like, that's not an issue.

[1:27:04] A big thing this is that we can't change that that's where everyone is available for that.

[1:27:11] That's a landscaping and in the end it's right.

[1:27:13] Walk that I don't think before people make it.

[1:27:29] You guys are happy to make this real nice back there with a lot of landscaping.

[1:27:33] We currently are right now.

[1:27:36] Greenboard.

[1:27:37] Greenboard.

[1:27:38] Greenboard.

[1:27:39] Yellowstone.

[1:27:41] Yellowstone.

[1:27:42] Yellowstone.

[1:27:46] I think we've just made it clear to you what we're thinking.

[1:27:51] Let's move on to the next one.

[1:27:52] We've been looking at options.

[1:27:53] There's one question I had for a game.

[1:27:55] It's a popsicle.

[1:27:56] This.

[1:28:00] So you've done straight ahead.

[1:28:01] The first one.

[1:28:03] We do.

[1:28:04] And this is something wrong across the ocean.

[1:28:06] It's clear though.

[1:28:06] It's.

[1:28:07] We want to give enough space for.

[1:28:09] But that's for you.

[1:28:09] It's a way from the intersection.

[1:28:11] So that's what we did.

[1:28:12] We've been across one over.

[1:28:14] So, you know, so they have this stuff.

[1:28:25] But real nice, when people are people and they're going to just walk across them.

[1:28:31] People it's not good.

[1:28:31] Then it's time for the DVA to have a chance for something else.

[1:28:41] I mean, I mean, I don't know what I can serve you, I don't think you have it.

[1:28:46] And you're our guy.

[1:28:50] What's next to them?

[1:28:55] So, when you did the calculation on the Kirby's papers, we've taken 100% of the area for various

[1:29:03] or some percentage based on the paper you used it as a pervious footprint, we were using the

[1:29:13] footprint, the footprint is 100%, but in terms of drainage calculations, we do have a certain percentage

[1:29:20] that we apply for, it's looked at it like, so we're really good at getting 18 or 14, we're getting less,

[1:29:27] there's no paper that's 100% per person.

[1:29:29] Correct. Correct. It's more of the land use calculation showing that these are all

[1:29:36] pervious. Because when I look at your own mark, your own traffic in the

[1:29:40] houses, you seem to hear the traffic study, and why is the only key three hundred

[1:29:47] and thank you for space at Herculesia, and by my numbers, you had 300 and look down my notes.

[1:30:02] 30,

[1:30:07] and we looked at, was one with the caveat with police requirements. There's also that the parking

[1:30:15] study does look at ITE as the most amount of efficiency on parking in an area like this, like a shop

[1:30:24] center but for code we do have a large deviation so we're trying to kind of provide as many

[1:30:31] stalls that can make it work for publics and all the tenants but we're not looking to

[1:30:37] still go down as much because there's still to be in fluxes.

[1:30:44] And frankly, you know, most of the followers out there say, I can't believe that I'm going to come up with that.

[1:30:51] I'm just going to let them start taking the follow-up.

[1:30:53] Because these are the followers out there tonight.

[1:30:55] So, the followers out there tonight.

[1:30:58] Yeah.

[1:30:59] So, I think I'd like to see some compromise there.

[1:31:04] I mean, I don't know.

[1:31:07] Those don't count how to say that.

[1:31:09] So, we don't really even have what our plan is going to happen.

[1:31:13] We have less than that, and then I scratch my head and I think I know I've never seen

[1:31:19] that part of my code, or not even like when people are shopping, but that is good.

[1:31:25] So, there are opportunities to find some great space elsewhere, maybe just to give that

[1:31:37] I think it was on it, but I'd smart you to think about that, or at least be honest about the calculation.

[1:31:45] But I understand the brain-licious one thing.

[1:31:48] The wind is on the profile of certain percentage levels.

[1:31:51] But we have to act on the mediation.

[1:31:53] I'd like to know where I can go.

[1:31:58] I think I talked about my three more.

[1:32:00] like that. I do like the idea of the greenway it's coming in but I don't know if that's

[1:32:07] cheap both. I saw it under some drawing I had it on there. Is that something our plan

[1:32:11] created? Yes, that is a nursing conversation. Is it possible someplace because any new shopping

[1:32:21] sector would have a different configuration of parking with people who walked in and once

[1:32:27] box and we're on that side, we're going to just a side walk that runs through the parking

[1:32:32] on the side.

[1:32:34] I know you don't have it, so no fatigue just takes any.

[1:32:38] If there's something they can do to the landscape, I know what the CAD comments were on the

[1:32:42] landscape, but we don't have the ears, they just went back and forth, all of the audience

[1:32:47] had had a great thing, all the odd time for pretty much, and trying to coordinate and squish

[1:32:54] a little bit here a little bit there, and I think to the extent it, I think it's a bit

[1:32:57] I can try to be working on multiple of the students.

[1:33:02] This is what we've done.

[1:33:03] We're either easy.

[1:33:05] Exactly.

[1:33:09] One of the constraints, too, is the existing building.

[1:33:12] Building, see, of the Dollar Tree.

[1:33:15] There is already parking along the frontage,

[1:33:17] and then there would be, I would say,

[1:33:20] no symmetrical layout that we can get it to work

[1:33:23] for having the full green way.

[1:33:26] We do have the South Side Greenway, but the North Side would not,

[1:33:29] but it would really work with parking.

[1:33:31] Yeah, good.

[1:33:33] Yeah.

[1:33:34] We have one.

[1:33:36] Yeah.

[1:33:36] I just keep thinking about, you know, your face, your reason, post, post, post, post, post,

[1:33:40] seems to cancel all the problems.

[1:33:42] We've talked it yesterday.

[1:33:43] We've talked it yesterday.

[1:33:44] We've talked it yesterday.

[1:33:45] So that was my open conversation.

[1:33:48] I really hope that we come back to the final plan that you have a better sense of what

[1:33:54] happens in phase 2 and 2 and 2 and 3 and 3 and 1 and 1.

[1:34:00] We are missing what was the original published.

[1:34:05] And that will give us a better understanding of traffic movements on the side,

[1:34:09] which is going to be landed there.

[1:34:10] I hope for the first person to see the first one.

[1:34:13] I think the PN is going to be on the stand.

[1:34:16] Yeah, I think that's where it comes.

[1:34:18] What are you doing?

[1:34:20] Nicole.

[1:34:21] What?

[1:34:22] Yes.

[1:34:23] I know we talked about the other sizing, whatever, and it's delivery time, but I would say that

[1:34:28] is it possible to, and I guess, be interested in making a condition for delivery time.

[1:34:35] So if they meet up with trucks there, you know, the traffic failures are coming in.

[1:34:40] Yeah, they only meet before certain time.

[1:34:42] Obviously, the smaller trucks, they're easier to look at now.

[1:34:46] It's not as big of an issue, but I think that could be a concern.

[1:34:49] and the public's crux to come in with the trailer.

[1:34:52] They're going to have the plot, you know, they're going to pull it

[1:34:54] and they're going to back up and it's we want to make sure there isn't

[1:34:57] a bunch of people that could get ready to help.

[1:35:00] I'd like to do a set board, I'll get right behind the credit credit credit.

[1:35:03] And when he goes back out, that's a problem. So I think that would be a timing of the delivery of the credit

[1:35:10] credit cards to be, you know, important.

[1:35:13] Because you have something in mind, tomorrow's time.

[1:35:17] Yeah.

[1:35:18] I guess it would depend on what they normally would do.

[1:35:21] I don't want to say big deal. You have to do it. They're this stuff.

[1:35:24] Exactly. You want to work with the public when they do it.

[1:35:27] Yeah, something I would make sense where I'm getting, that's a 5M, and it has to be like,

[1:35:33] you know, also reasonable for politics or what, but something along those lines, that

[1:35:39] we get to AOS, I know, it's 630 minutes to lay today on 5, but somewhere in the Hondo

[1:35:45] line but at least something that, you know, that after this time, I don't know if the deal

[1:35:51] if that's not the killer's coming in.

[1:35:53] That kind of stuff.

[1:35:55] I can ask.

[1:35:57] I know we've talked about the lecture story and it's not intended to have the idea.

[1:36:03] Is it something that would be considered, you know, sort of putting over there,

[1:36:08] if there's sort of, I guess, make it.

[1:36:10] He's an art, art, art, art, art.

[1:36:12] A little bit more symmetrical, or is that?

[1:36:13] It's a big non-starter.

[1:36:15] I wouldn't say it's an on-starter I can ask.

[1:36:18] Okay.

[1:36:18] Um, and I would, I like, uh, my bulletin for the, uh, the drink wall, I'm 20% out, I like that, but that's, that's all I got.

[1:36:31] Susan?

[1:36:33] Yes.

[1:36:33] You got something?

[1:36:35] Thank you.

[1:36:36] First of all, I'd like to take it that way.

[1:36:39] So please, if I didn't, please, if we were to get it, you can bring in new noir.

[1:36:46] Now it's over in the base to the top of the top of the empty, light of the light towards the end.

[1:36:53] Thank you so much for your support.

[1:36:56] Thank you.

[1:36:57] The steps that I think I did.

[1:36:59] I'm a part of this glory of our city.

[1:37:02] In the chart we said, come on, go.

[1:37:06] I would like to see it getting closer.

[1:37:09] Before I left her to her.

[1:37:11] I said, I will take it to the top of the mountain.

[1:37:15] They don't properly do it, but I think it's something I would like to see as the

[1:37:24] condition of a protocol that hasn't been able to respond to the letter for a hearing.

[1:37:34] Number two, the line you need is in the elevator to the most varied if you don't want to make it.

[1:37:44] And I'd like you all to take another look at the line you need to know for those things, because I don't think it's very attractive

[1:37:53] and how to keep babies with what they think they're trying to do with children who don't

[1:38:00] feel they can prove they can fix something.

[1:38:06] So, I know when you talk about mental or mental disorders, it's so great to hear

[1:38:13] that.

[1:38:15] But now we're going to explain what you think.

[1:38:17] is that although an electric intake is an oil supply system and it goes to the

[1:38:49] I've seen many topics that we've been through these years that have been introduced and improved, and taught, not necessarily, but when it's existing, it can happen.

[1:39:03] And I'd like to bet that you're re-intended for the power of the power of millions of

[1:39:10] employees in the United States, because I don't know if it's like the period of life.

[1:39:15] It's easy to believe that that doesn't mean it's important to be, if it's important,

[1:39:20] if it doesn't let the existence of the power of the power of the power of the power of the power of the power of the power of the power.

[1:39:28] Thank you Susan Alice.

[1:40:00] The government meeting, the government meeting, and the government meeting, and the council, to the different areas.

[1:40:08] On the common screen, the model.

[1:40:11] They see a lot of them, except down, and they see a lot of them, start really well.

[1:40:17] They see a lot of them, whatever they do, and they can't put them down for that.

[1:40:22] They need to be feeling positive, not out of time.

[1:40:24] That's a book that they want to read and go home with and they want to be at the building down the ground.

[1:40:30] They want to be at the building.

[1:40:32] They like to see that.

[1:40:35] They want to see that.

[1:40:36] They want that.

[1:40:38] Thank you, Alex.

[1:40:40] I feel like you said you had another one.

[1:40:42] Yeah, I see that.

[1:40:44] What kind of two is that?

[1:40:45] Okay.

[1:40:47] Are you okay with the big green wall?

[1:40:50] That's the hard one.

[1:40:51] Do you drive down 95 and we can, yeah, we'll cope with whatever they try to grow it and it was a disaster and they quit off the artificial stuff.

[1:41:02] And I'm really, I just threw that out of some nonsense.

[1:41:05] Anything that makes that industry experience.

[1:41:10] I understand that.

[1:41:13] Yeah, it may be an enhanced landscape in that area maybe.

[1:41:17] What in the end?

[1:41:20] Maybe the pay to pay to eat, instead of being strict as an arrow,

[1:41:24] can move a little bit at the same time.

[1:41:27] You have left paper.

[1:41:29] We'll put some focus on that and have some better renderings

[1:41:31] so you can understand what that looks like.

[1:41:33] I mean, a digital company.

[1:41:36] Is there anything which you want to have or anything

[1:41:38] that you want to have to partner with?

[1:41:42] I guess I wanted to address

[1:41:44] doing all of the elevations now.

[1:41:47] We're really looking for approval just to do the public at this point.

[1:41:53] We, you know, we are a real estate company and we have to hit certain returns when we make an investment.

[1:42:01] So, you know, we are happy to do that when we have new tenants and we have more rent and we can afford to do that.

[1:42:10] It's difficult to do it with tenets that don't pay a whole lot of rent and they've been there for a long time

[1:42:16] We were publicly traded, so I know nobody likes to hear there's financial reasons

[1:42:20] But that's the reality that we live on. Unfortunately

[1:42:24] I should have done so much

[1:42:26] You could put you on for those tenets of the work they kept it. They're not going to fight a whole lot for us improving

[1:42:34] Yeah, but they're not going to participate.

[1:42:36] Right.

[1:42:36] Exactly.

[1:42:37] So yeah.

[1:42:37] I mean, there are times, and what we do occasionally when we can, if somebody's looking

[1:42:43] to renew, we'll say, well, okay, we're going to renew, but we need to upgrade the

[1:42:47] facade.

[1:42:48] So you can move to pay more rent so we can upgrade the facade.

[1:42:51] And we would certainly do that in this scenario.

[1:42:53] I just don't know.

[1:42:54] I can find out exactly when our lease is empty.

[1:42:57] And with the timeframe looks at that.

[1:42:59] But that would be the goal here, Mr.

[1:43:01] you upgrade it as we have the opportunity to do it.

[1:43:05] Sure, their goal is a lot of the shots.

[1:43:06] They want more red, nicer buildings.

[1:43:09] That's so good.

[1:43:10] Better mechanics.

[1:43:12] That's so...

[1:43:13] Sherman, what is it that you're looking for us to now do?

[1:43:16] It was just a discussion, I think it was a positive issue.

[1:43:19] So we've provided your conversation.

[1:43:21] Don't need this as a public hearing.

[1:43:22] No, I think that's true.

[1:43:25] And so, I take it for a interview.

[1:43:27] Kind of giving you a lot of advice.

[1:43:32] Obviously, it's not about my heart, cap, or in a cast in stone, but I think it's harder for you to have a few of the point to me.

[1:43:43] So what else would you like to ask us?

[1:43:48] I don't know that I have any additional questions you guys have anything.

[1:43:56] I think you've given us some really good feedback and some good things to look at.

[1:44:01] We'll definitely take a look.

[1:44:03] On the back side, the public's in the focus on 21st way and make sure that's as good as it can be.

[1:44:12] And I'd really like to explore the idea of doing that sidewalk on the north side.

[1:44:16] I think that's a really good idea.

[1:44:20] Not sure we have enough room to do a sidewalk and a wall or head.

[1:44:27] So maybe we could come up with something and as can decide and maybe if there's any way to get

[1:44:33] feedback in the community about how important that wall is.

[1:44:36] I don't know if you want to open that kind of worms, but just something to think about.

[1:44:43] You know, as an old, is that better, or could we just make the whole thing feel better on that side?

[1:44:47] Is that a better alternative to just screening it off, because I don't think screening off,

[1:44:51] actually helps anybody truly and you just want to make both and feel better. So that's

[1:44:57] where you take a look from that standpoint.

[1:45:00] I want to make sure that, unfortunately, we want to understand that the policy of people might not have a lot of public. So we are not here to try to kill that.

[1:45:11] No, I know.

[1:45:12] To make sure that it's, you know, as good as we breathe in a way, kind of expect to get.

[1:45:18] I'm sure we can.

[1:45:26] I did say we didn't mention one thing and I'm just in my opinion I'm personally not able to do a stop.

[1:45:35] In any town like I have a sidewalk with a car over here and then a sidewalk and a real stop.

[1:45:42] You write them in as an hour time.

[1:45:46] And I can't protect all my life.

[1:45:49] You get seen through that all the time.

[1:45:51] You're checking over with Dr. Wilstron.

[1:45:53] Let's go.

[1:45:54] Let's go.

[1:45:54] It's crazy to go through.

[1:45:55] I just, I know.

[1:45:57] It's crazy.

[1:45:59] And they weren't quite without it.

[1:46:01] I just, I don't know.

[1:46:03] Something I really felt like myself.

[1:46:09] I would be supportive of not having to just.

[1:46:14] Great.

[1:46:16] Yeah, and I do want it for you to reiterate.

[1:46:18] Yeah, I do believe we're on the same page,

[1:46:20] so we're trying to do something better.

[1:46:23] We're more interested in making this center look better.

[1:46:26] That's why we're committing to the investment.

[1:46:28] For it, publics is our tenant,

[1:46:30] but it is our investment that we're making.

[1:46:31] So we are investing a significant amount of money here.

[1:46:35] So we are goal is to upgrade the entire center,

[1:46:38] which is not ready quite to do that yet.

[1:46:41] But the long-term goal is virtually as good as possible

[1:46:43] and can be.

[1:46:45] So it's important to you all and we understand that.

[1:46:49] Our goal is a company is to be the center of the community

[1:46:51] and we serve.

[1:46:53] That is our mantra and that's something we take very seriously.

[1:46:58] It's just a picnic with one of my questions that I thought I'd say.

[1:47:03] This particular phase is that there is now trigger, compliance with the entire site

[1:47:09] point, or not.

[1:47:13] I haven't done it calculated as far as the physical scope of work.

[1:47:19] Yeah, I'm not.

[1:47:21] So technically, then I require it to do all that.

[1:47:26] With regards to landscape, in some landscape requirements, but with other code requirements.

[1:47:33] I don't know, but the main thing you're building on this side is how to be in the court.

[1:47:39] Right.

[1:47:40] And they're showing it.

[1:47:41] Yeah.

[1:47:43] Some folks talking about what they're doing.

[1:47:45] They're going to be the architect of the size and now.

[1:47:48] But you just can't.

[1:47:51] Well, you can't.

[1:47:52] You just can't.

[1:47:53] You just can't.

[1:47:54] You just can't.

[1:47:57] You just can't.

[1:48:03] We've said, yes, we have to do so long as you do this, this and that, so many of you can get in.

[1:48:11] Yeah, that's more.

[1:48:11] I think they come up with more.

[1:48:13] And we'll let you go.

[1:48:15] Yeah.

[1:48:16] Yeah.

[1:48:16] Down there is the site of the water.

[1:48:21] From the last standpoint, everything has to be code in every single parcel of land.

[1:48:28] So, where there's exceptions for 20% of the value, if you do this amount of intervention, that's an exception.

[1:48:36] The rule is it all has to be code though, right, but with this condition of approval, you can affect that.

[1:48:42] Would you guys be okay if there's something in that it says after a certain amount of panic turnover triggers that the facade has to be upgraded or something like that?

[1:48:51] which it sounds like when you read the new public space you're planning on getting the good

[1:48:57] talents and we're going to do that and that vice versa hopefully has things turnover

[1:49:03] and things have proved it. But I think he would be coming in for another kind of

[1:49:10] failure at that point.

[1:49:15] Yeah, it's a hard question to answer. What I'm comfortable

[1:49:19] saying is that when we don't knew that we won't do that because I don't know who we're

[1:49:27] putting in there. You know I don't know who would have interest in or when that would

[1:49:33] happen. The hope is that we would be upgrading to tenancy and then we would have that opportunity

[1:49:43] but I don't have that in place now so it's hard for me to commit to that. That's certainly

[1:49:52] We appreciate you coming in and we appreciate you working with the city and we're very pleased to hear you.

[1:50:09] Thank you so much, appreciate all the comments and thank you for what you do.

[1:50:14] We're not done.

[1:50:17] But.

[1:50:20] Have a look at a pass from the floor.

[1:50:23] I don't want to say any public.

[1:50:24] I'm very proud of that.

[1:50:27] I have a zoning official report.

[1:50:33] Follow up.

[1:50:36] You all can show or study whatever you want.

[1:50:40] Thank you all.

[1:50:40] Thank you.

[1:50:41] Thank you.

[1:50:42] Thank you.

[1:50:46] Nothing made you to report this session.

[1:50:52] You might go through the report on some of the Yacht Club permitting, but I don't have

[1:51:01] any other role of this person there on any of that project, but I'm just really kind of

[1:51:09] than this big one. It's been business as usual.

[1:51:16] President?

[1:51:17] President.

[1:51:19] Ross, do you want to get up and tell us what's going on?

[1:51:22] I'd like to have a question.

[1:51:24] Is it what's the status of the hotel?

[1:51:30] So they filed for an extension.

[1:51:32] I think they have a year and a half until they have to do something with the

[1:51:42] They had an emergency declaration from an executive order to the council.

[1:51:48] Yeah.

[1:51:48] It's not an emergency declaration.

[1:51:51] Yeah.

[1:51:53] Did you?

[1:51:53] It wouldn't have happened to this year.

[1:51:58] Could you leave me?

[1:52:01] I'd just like to say that the mayor and I in administration has had a number of meetings with

[1:52:09] publics. As you have mentioned, you know, the city too is very excited about the opportunity

[1:52:15] to this new public store, and more importantly, the improvement of that whole shopping center.

[1:52:21] When we saw what was done across the street and that shopping center, we were thinking that,

[1:52:27] at the right-house point, we should be able to do our entire shopping center, like they did across

[1:52:32] street, you know, phasing in areas over the course of five or seven or 10 years.

[1:52:39] We just think that, you know, can these can be done more simultaneously?

[1:52:45] But we are happy with the fact that they are going to phase it.

[1:52:50] You know, at the slope.

[1:52:52] If it is a slow pace, they are going to phase it and improve the entire shopping sandwich.

[1:53:01] The DRC met several times. We did a number of site visits out at the National Shocking Center.

[1:53:10] We identified all the same issues that you raised tonight.

[1:53:14] We talked about that north and north-east entrance.

[1:53:18] We're originally going to have an entrance into the drive through the pharmacy at that location.

[1:53:27] But because of the conflicts with that neighboring kind of medium, it just was not feasible.

[1:53:34] While I question the sidewalk is even feasible there.

[1:53:37] I'd like to see some renderings, and we can meet with Kimway Horton, and the brick wall people,

[1:53:43] and see if they can put together some sort of rendering

[1:53:46] to see if that's possible.

[1:53:48] We would certainly wouldn't be hosted that.

[1:53:50] I think that stuff was a good idea.

[1:53:52] I just think it's really tight.

[1:53:54] There's a lot of utility conflicts in that corner.

[1:53:58] And we had a lot of discussions about that

[1:54:00] in struggled with it.

[1:54:02] We also struggled quite a bit about the talking bay

[1:54:07] when we're back in trucks and pulling it to that offset,

[1:54:11] pulling it to that offset.

[1:54:13] We put the war for a way, intersection there, and back in trucks into that area and then the trucks exiting that area.

[1:54:22] I feel like we made as many compromises that we can make to try and accommodate them to try and make this project work.

[1:54:32] There are several things that are not ideal, but we think that they could work.

[1:54:37] We also think that there may be some room for improvement, and I think he made some suggestions that may cause him to go back and see that he can come back with some better ideas, and we're all for that as well.

[1:54:53] Give you a quick update on some other things that happen around the city.

[1:54:57] You know, that we've got a number of major things.

[1:55:00] Our infrastructure projects are in the design phase right now. We're doing a complete sample road improvement project, which is scheduled to start on the run after the first city year from U.S. 1 down at 31st Avenue. At the same time, we're getting ready to kick off our sample road bridge improvement project, we're in the final phases of design of that bridge. We're probably going to be going out to bid on that, and we're going to

[1:55:30] last quarter of this year, a first quarter of 27, but the hopes of starting construction

[1:55:35] on a sample of bridge, around April and May of 2027, we've got two big stormwater improvement

[1:55:44] projects.

[1:55:45] Part of our master plan, going on in the north end of the city, which will also take the

[1:55:49] fact in some time of 2027.

[1:55:53] We're going to be doing some dry jing in the city, just coming here, doing some improvements

[1:55:59] to the sea wall along North Beach 309 Street that is in this repair and it's not coming

[1:56:05] near. We've got about $25 to $30 million and then the structure projects are going to start

[1:56:11] taking effect here in early 27 through 2028. So we've got a lot going on in the city. We've been working

[1:56:19] really hard doing a preliminary work to get ready. There's lots of been stocked these projects and

[1:56:24] And it's going to be a little hectic, especially along Sample Road for a bit of time.

[1:56:31] The bridge is probably going to take 18 to 24 months to complete the Sample Road Improvement

[1:56:37] Project, or probably another 8 to 10 months.

[1:56:40] So there's going to be a lot of congestion there, but you'll see some significant improvements

[1:56:46] in that area once there's been some problems.

[1:56:49] So what if any of those projects will come in front of us?

[1:56:58] I don't know that any of those were.

[1:57:05] I see a deep unsweetened, I see a deep unsweetened.

[1:57:08] The sample road and improvement plan.

[1:57:11] Yeah, the sample road and improvement thought that was one of the most really wonderful lines.

[1:57:15] So let's see, I got sample road and the act for all of them.

[1:57:20] So the lot there in the Opera.

[1:57:22] The Opera's house is never anything.

[1:57:23] I mean, I mean, I'm being constructed in the next 10 years.

[1:57:25] Yeah, I can be a club, I'm trying to retire from that.

[1:57:30] I can't think of the past two to one, then the past six.

[1:57:35] On home to the.

[1:57:36] How is that going to impact the city?

[1:57:41] Well, based on our 25 numbers.

[1:57:45] We anticipate that in year one, we'll have quite 28.

[1:57:50] And the exception goes from 50 to 150,000.

[1:57:54] to be about $1.5 million, take an off-the-line tax rub in FY28.

[1:58:02] We anticipate that would be about $2.7 million.

[1:58:06] And the plan is that they are going to look to do a complete elimination.

[1:58:15] Have a long taxes, sometime thereafter, going to be a significant problem for not only

[1:58:22] city but local government counties throughout the state of Florida so we have enough money

[1:58:29] where obviously watching is very closely and are concerned about what the outcome might be.

[1:58:35] We have to be well careful that we can't advocate in a short way about this. We could be informative

[1:58:42] and we're getting ready to hold a couple of workshops in the city and believe they were just posted

[1:58:47] on cities for uptight and cold-year invasions.

[1:58:50] That's every 12, that one is.

[1:58:52] That's a 12, that's number 29, that's a 10, that's a 10.

[1:58:55] So we're going to be all in some workshops

[1:58:57] and by our residents out to inform them

[1:59:00] about what some of the implications are to educate them

[1:59:04] about what amendment three might mean for a lighthouse point.

[1:59:09] And what the amendment is in general.

[1:59:12] And hopefully, your people will make the right decision about.

[1:59:15] I mean, it may be that we end up buying companies because they're brothers, they're brothers.

[1:59:24] We don't have money to pay for the bridge and the current projects.

[1:59:29] We don't believe we want to increase our success rate and make up to the money.

[1:59:36] If we wanted to do that.

[1:59:38] Well, we have the funds in place to do the sample row bridge.

[1:59:42] We have the funds through shirts to do the Sample Road Improvement Project.

[1:59:50] We have funds from large storm water master plan to do the two storm water projects in the North

[1:59:58] it's a 10-phase project.

[2:00:07] We have a number of other projects. We have six other bridges that were trying to design and what were once three to four million dollar bridge projects are now seven plus million dollars for each bridge.

[2:00:25] So, we had a, we had a, we had a couple of million dollars in the appropriation dollars

[2:00:29] that was cut by the governor for the, not these 30-first court forage.

[2:00:36] So, we're back to the drawing board, we don't have funding to do that.

[2:00:39] We're in the design page of that bridge, but we don't have the funding to actually do the

[2:00:43] construction.

[2:00:44] We have the funding to do that, the others' fibreship for exactly to be done.

[2:00:49] There's a question below the advance.

[2:00:52] And so, how does this protect the revisions

[2:00:54] to the end of the war in Paris,

[2:00:57] impact, scenes in Florida,

[2:01:00] that the end of the war in the capital of the Asian lands?

[2:01:05] Could be a problem.

[2:01:07] I mean, how would you pay for it?

[2:01:09] How would you pay for it on the other side of the thing?

[2:01:11] How would you pay for it on the other side of the thing?

[2:01:12] How would you pay for it on the other side of the thing?

[2:01:15] Well, the important thing is what I'll point out

[2:01:18] the water to go up on there.

[2:01:21] that's great, that you can have in every one minute to prove that there's a lot that's

[2:01:25] part of the cities that have tons, don't have any rooms to go on if they're already out

[2:01:29] about that. And they're screwed. So, they're funnums, aren't you? I couldn't mean it. We can

[2:01:38] allocate to something still because we've had the room. But I mean, it's not an unlimited room,

[2:01:45] So you can also, I don't think I've ever stormed water and all these other things, but that's, yeah.

[2:01:53] But there may be additional assessments, service fees, to do things,

[2:01:57] how much can you charge to be in the summary of program, to do it,

[2:02:01] to all programs at the library?

[2:02:04] There's only so much money you could raise in a small city like this,

[2:02:09] but there may be some additional assessments,

[2:02:27] We've been given a lot of thought to it. It's going to create some real challenges.

[2:02:31] It's going to put back.

[2:02:34] Well, it's a deal.

[2:02:38] What's the deal?

[2:02:42] OK.

[2:02:43] So last week, over the last couple of weeks,

[2:02:48] Sean and I actually had a couple of meetings

[2:02:51] with the team at the art club.

[2:02:53] And they did provide financial

[2:02:55] viability and documentation from the banking

[2:02:58] institution that's going to provide the love to the aqua. So there were a number of other

[2:03:04] stipulations requirements that they had to meet. They were able to settle some of the outstanding

[2:03:10] code and mean fines. They were able to get the performance bond and the right of way bond.

[2:03:18] And we finally did issue them the demo permit and their schedule to start the demo on the aqua

[2:03:23] on September 8th, and once they start to download

[2:03:28] the clock starts on their projects, so we are anticipating

[2:03:32] that as soon as the off-club is completed,

[2:03:35] they're going to execute their loans and start

[2:03:39] pulling permits.

[2:03:40] There are some things that they have to settle

[2:03:42] a fraud account in first, which I understand

[2:03:45] are ready to be issued.

[2:03:46] Once they make their payment to bribe and upon,

[2:03:53] upon receipt of that, we would be the permits for that project or ready to be issued.

[2:03:59] They've already been reviewed and they're ready to be issued.

[2:04:02] So hopefully we're going to start seeing something happening.

[2:04:10] A lot of exciting things coming along, how's the point?

[2:04:16] Have you had the question for a part of the magnitude of the U.S. in the 90s?

[2:04:23] Yes, thank you very much.

[2:04:25] Thank you very much.

[2:04:28] So the attorney report, Sean, of course, of the good report.

[2:04:34] Well, I think that if we have a new next month, then it's not quite a review of that.

[2:04:43] Well,

[2:04:46] the deadline was last Friday, but I don't know if they may be able to come

[2:04:58] I am doing their applications.

[2:05:04] I will not go in another week.

[2:05:08] Yes, then I'll run into a vehicle deadline.

[2:05:10] Yeah, couple of days.

[2:05:11] How would it?

[2:05:13] Sounds good.

[2:05:14] Anybody on the board, have anything in one way?

[2:05:20] Michael?

[2:05:22] Thank you.

[2:05:24] I do the picture zoom.

[2:05:27] Now, anything?

[2:05:31] No, no, no, no, no.

[2:05:32] To the, anything?

[2:05:34] Thank you.

[2:05:37] I think we're done.

[2:05:38] Thank you.

[2:05:40] Thank you.

[2:05:42] I wish you all the hang.

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