[0:01] All right. I'd like to call this regular meeting, village board of trustees to order, first

[0:06] to our business, pledge allegiance to the flag,

[0:10] pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic of

[0:15] for which it stands one nation under God and it is a liberty and justice for all.

[0:23] My second order of business I'd like to take just a brief moment of silence, Dean Brown

[0:30] passed away.

[0:50] Thank you. For those, those that didn't know if he was a long time town manager

[0:56] and mud love and very well respect you good man consideration

[1:04] of any changes

[1:05] addition to removal to the agenda I do number

[1:11] 10 has already been decided upon in

[1:17] May I thought so yes so we can strike that one and then under other business we

[1:28] We will talk about a piece of property, yes,

[1:31] of the top of the Guilteros.

[1:33] Okay.

[1:34] And we have Mr. Sukordner, is that right?

[1:39] Mr. Walter Sukordner made a talk about that

[1:41] for the record.

[1:42] No decision tonight, but just play in the collegial.

[1:45] Okay.

[1:45] That's all I have.

[1:47] Very good.

[1:49] I'm approved many minutes from previous meetings.

[1:52] In

[1:57] a second, I want to have one thing I just wanted

[2:00] of the certification, everybody has an opinion for that.

[2:03] Page four, letter A, and I know that's what you said

[2:08] that we should have done.

[2:10] The last sentence that explained the amount

[2:12] of extra hours, and he said, required for the permitting,

[2:17] that we justify the difference.

[2:19] He meant that, I don't know, if you don't write that,

[2:22] it doesn't.

[2:22] He said that George Tucker Jr., who was on the diva's plane,

[2:26] the amount of extra hours, and so what do you want to say?

[2:32] I think he had said at the meeting, required for the permitting, it kept longer, so it justified it.

[2:39] But in here, it just doesn't, you can't understand what the extra hours mean.

[2:43] It meant for the money, that's all, okay.

[2:48] There's no route over where the hours come from.

[2:50] I just think if you're reading the book, I'd like to make a motion to accept and look at one question.

[2:56] Second.

[2:58] All in favor?

[3:00] Hi.

[3:04] Comments from citizens.

[3:11] Do we have Zoom folks?

[3:13] If you wouldn't mind speaking into the microphone, it helps those folks be able to hear us.

[3:18] My name is Kathy Grant.

[3:19] I'm not

[3:25] increasing the ways from off the rails for the last couple weeks.

[3:29] on and off depending on when they have entertainment and what the entertainment is, and concerned we've got this small position of about 20 signatures, just talking with other people.

[3:43] What this means for the future, so I have a list of their future engagements, including they apparently did a set up a new music venue,

[3:56] which I didn't know if the town was even aware of that, but that's how it's publicized.

[4:02] And these events are going to be going on outside, I assume outside,

[4:08] at least some of the bands, through December.

[4:13] So we'd like to have the trustees look at the town manager looking to this

[4:18] because if we're going to go to a higher density in town

[4:23] and we have more venues like this and more, it's a nuisance noise to us, these are

[4:30] street or a quarter mile from the location. So we can hear everything on our

[4:38] streets. So at nine o'clock at night, it's not gonna say it's tolerable, but at

[4:46] eleven o'clock at night, on a Thursday or Friday night, it's just, you can't

[4:51] the windows open. It's actually heard about High Street.

[4:56] You could hear it on the Epo, too. Yeah, because where it comes from.

[4:58] Much more faint than obviously right.

[5:01] Well, it's right up the right up the river.

[5:06] It goes pretty loud.

[5:07] Hard dog here on South Hill, from here to...

[5:10] Sorry, I did the first weekend.

[5:14] I just was saying...

[5:16] How long has this been going on?

[5:18] Because I've only heard it a couple of times.

[5:20] So it's been a couple of years ago, and then there's one bound in particular I'm going to give you this list.

[5:28] Yeah, I'd love to look at it.

[5:30] So I just printed it off their website.

[5:34] So I don't know if that's been addressed.

[5:38] I've heard that something's been addressed with them already.

[5:41] But two years ago we had addressed it with chief fillings and it seems to have gotten slightly better.

[5:49] But now it's just really loud and it's not every night, but like last weekend

[5:55] That we didn't hear them at all

[5:58] So but that was to life. There's a lot of things going on

[6:03] Miss Wu, do we have we have a noise ordinance in the village more

[6:09] And what are the time parameters for that?

[6:13] I'll have to research.

[6:15] I think it's 11 p.m.

[6:16] Is there a decimal?

[6:17] Yes, the other news.

[6:18] I believe it's a decimal.

[6:19] And I believe it starts at a certain time and ends at a certain time.

[6:22] So when we talked to Billings a couple of years ago, he said there was no decimal on it.

[6:31] But it just doesn't mean it wasn't, of course, but it's just nuisance.

[6:35] But I'm looking at the future, too, because we're going to put more density into the village,

[6:42] which I can't understand if I can do that, but if we're going to have more people in town

[6:49] and we've had other noise nuisances in the past, I think it needs to be addressed.

[6:56] And the merger coming up, I don't know, I don't know when that needs to be done and where.

[7:05] Thank you very much Kathy.

[7:07] Thank you Kathy.

[7:12] Would you like us to look at the petition?

[7:16] I would love to see the petition as well.

[7:21] We were just looking at just seeing if it was just us that was hearing this.

[7:27] We really didn't work hard at this at all.

[7:30] I just went on my street.

[7:31] And other people have heard it I've heard it's driving through town coming home from work at 11.30

[7:40] a couple of Fridays ago I don't off the top of my head I don't know what

[7:45] regulations are set and forth and such as outdoor live music venues outdoor events such

[7:52] as that I will look into the outstanding ordinances already on the books and see if

[7:57] there is a desk well level I believe there actually is a desk well level in that

[8:06] Yeah, this was a recent conversation not to do with this, but there was a recent conversation about a noise ordinance, which is why we're chatting about it now.

[8:15] There was something in the mail a couple of years ago.

[8:19] That could have been it. Yeah. Um, go ahead, Eric.

[8:28] Can you hear me, Eric? Yeah. Go to

[8:32] no comments. I'm all set. Thank you, Bob. Okay. Your hands up.

[8:40] And I might be. Oh, this hand up. It's a cursor. Oh,

[8:44] I know. I know it's a cursor. They look the same. I know. Instead of a pointer,

[8:49] I mean, you have 15 signatures here, we didn't we didn't work very hard at all.

[8:54] Billy Davis said he was also, and is this almost everybody on Orion, yeah, so I'm seeing two, seven, nine, eight, 10, so it's, it's bothersome.

[9:08] And down he goes, Doc, who doesn't say anything.

[9:12] He's happy to sign it, and he's mad about it, and he heard it coming through with his doors and windows closed with AC.

[9:20] Okay, we'll look into it.

[9:22] Thank you for bringing us to our attention.

[9:24] Thank you very much.

[9:26] Yeah.

[9:28] Actually, have a good wrap.

[9:29] Thank you.

[9:32] I know she'd like to have that.

[9:36] That's the one that's underlined. Is that the really that one?

[9:38] Yes, that was the worst week in the memory.

[9:42] I don't know about the other.

[9:45] I mean, the worst weekend's probably coming up, isn't it?

[9:49] Mid July?

[9:50] Well, I think the police just say something nice

[9:52] into the new management is one of the things they haven't

[9:54] been told, maybe that's the most important in the management

[9:57] of ours.

[9:59] But they also would have been the best.

[10:00] May I make a comment please?

[10:02] If people want to speak, they really

[10:04] I think you need to come to the mic because people on Zoom cannot hear you.

[10:11] How do they come up on the mic?

[10:12] How much is sensitive?

[10:14] Yeah.

[10:15] Okay.

[10:15] I'll be there.

[10:18] All right.

[10:19] Thank you.

[10:20] Very much.

[10:21] You're both.

[10:23] Okay.

[10:24] Allocation review and possibly approved.

[10:31] Well, I'd like to say that on A, the vehicle drive has been advertised as a three-bedroom and haven't been rented as a four-bedroom, if you want to research on it.

[10:43] This one is dropped off.

[10:44] Oh, exactly.

[10:45] This was the last set yesterday.

[10:49] They sent an email and they want this to be removed from scratch.

[10:52] So we have no time for that?

[10:54] Yes.

[10:55] That's 42-Dear Field Drive.

[10:56] 42-Dear Field Drive.

[10:58] I don't know, do you think it's just scrubbed?

[11:02] Okay, scrubbed.

[11:03] Thank you.

[11:05] Sorry to interrupt.

[11:06] They are selling it.

[11:08] Okay.

[11:09] What was on that?

[11:13] 129 Main Street is the,

[11:15] if you recall, the

[11:17] former NAFAA building

[11:19] next to the show gas station.

[11:24] Given the letter,

[11:26] given the date,

[11:27] I think I would make a motion to approve the allocation removal with the express understanding that if they were ever want to turn that on, they'd have to go through the allocation process again.

[11:43] All in favor?

[11:47] here. Hi. Hi.

[12:01] Hi. Hi, my head reports.

[12:15] I do love that the

[12:18] village of Lovlo sewer department gives us year over year. It's a true indicator.

[12:24] 7.4 million gallons of waste water last year, 6.6 million this year.

[12:32] We've been

[12:33] down this year. We have. We appreciate

[12:42] those. I will say that we have to have a vacancy

[12:46] Water Waste Water Operator in the sewer department.

[12:50] We have conducted four interviews which had four good candidates.

[12:55] That's going okay.

[12:55] So it's a very good place today for making the reference checks on those four candidates

[13:01] and we'll have a decision soon.

[13:13] How much overlap is there with the department heads?

[13:17] I have, I believe I have two department heads reports, is that right?

[13:21] Okay, there's two.

[13:23] Town highway.

[13:27] Should we be looking at zoning in the village on a monthly basis?

[13:35] Is that something that's relevant to this board?

[13:39] Parks of the problem?

[13:41] Sure.

[13:42] And that would tie into maybe the density, things that we've approved for the downtown

[13:47] and certain destinations and things like that.

[13:50] We can make that.

[13:51] Thank you.

[13:52] Yeah, the

[14:00] age receivable reports starting off in a good place. I think for the fiscal year by my account. There's approximately nine accounts that are

[14:14] over a hundred and a hundred and twenty days or greater in those those accounts range from

[14:21] $322 to about three thousand three hundred dollars. That's a total of the water in southern bridges. I think we're in a good place.

[14:31] look I said to start this clear and we will stay on top of that one of the accounts that we have talked about in the past I have not moved out on yet

[14:42] We discussed yeah, thank you

[14:55] We view impossibly approved the 20 fiscal year 27

[15:00] Tax rate. Hand out that you have in front of you. Ula has drafted and she is online for any questions. And then I also handed out last year's for side by side for the village. So you can see that last year's was 0.2599 in the village and for fiscal year 27. A proposed tax rate of

[15:31] 0.1474.

[15:34] Do we have a broke down between residential and non-residential or homestead versus non-homes

[15:40] dead?

[15:44] Only have what's in front of us.

[15:47] You know how we have homestead versus non-homes dead education?

[15:50] Is that set at the select board level so it doesn't get set at the village level?

[15:54] This is just the municipal and is that how that works?

[15:59] Ms. Cook?

[16:00] Because we've got it for last year, right?

[16:03] There's an actual education.

[16:05] Hey, Hula.

[16:08] Can you hear us, Hula?

[16:10] Hey, Hula.

[16:15] Do

[16:21] you mind turning it up?

[16:23] Please.

[16:24] You might check Hula, can you hear us?

[16:28] Oh, wait, yeah, we can hear her.

[16:32] You're very faint.

[16:34] We can't make you out.

[16:41] Hula,

[16:44] stand up.

[16:44] volume, I think.

[16:50] How about now? Yeah. Oh, she can hear us. We can't hear her. Very, very faint.

[17:05] You have headphones on. Are you speaking into the microphone?

[17:09] It's the TV turned up.

[17:13] Get the TV?

[17:15] Okay.

[17:19] Oh, this speaker's way down. All right, let's try it now.

[17:22] Check it. Maybe 50 will work. Say something to all. Are you there?

[17:42] I think that'll work right there.

[17:44] Will there would you test?

[17:48] I'm here.

[17:49] Okay.

[17:50] Thank you.

[18:01] Thank you.

[18:04] Thank you.

[18:05] Thank you.

[18:10] You might not be.

[18:12] The proper person, but I'll ask since you might know more than we do, since the CLA was

[18:19] in 92.25 last year for the village, does that mean after the reappraisal, our CLA is at 100 this year?

[18:30] Okay, and the CLA rate at the town level was much lower last year than 92.25.

[18:47] The tax rate is down significantly, which is obviously a nice, a nice thing.

[18:54] Thank you, Ms. Gok.

[19:01] Any other comments on that?

[19:03] I would like to put in publicly.

[19:07] Last year's rate was 0.2599 in the village.

[19:11] This year's indicated tax rate is 0.1474.

[19:14] I'd

[19:19] like to make a motion to approve the tax rate as presented.

[19:23] All in favor?

[19:25] Aye.

[19:32] Very good.

[19:34] Number nine, review and possibly approved timeline for completion of short-term rental

[19:39] registration.

[19:41] What you have in your packet is merely a proposal for a timeline for the trustees to consider

[19:48] for

[19:51] the development of short-term rental registry policy.

[19:58] We discussed this with the select board last night, and what I am presenting to you

[20:07] builds an ample opportunity for public comment, public notification, and of course this is

[20:15] just a proposed timeline, it can be adjusted as conditions or comments, concerns are brought

[20:23] forward to the trustees and or the Slack Board.

[20:38] We spoke about this a good amount of time last night, it's a 15 or 20 minutes.

[20:44] The consensus from the Slack Board was to move forward.

[20:47] I think the timeline is

[20:52] achievable, it's quick, but I believe the September to November implementations

[21:00] time frame can work based on the work we've already done in the past. So I'd be in

[21:06] favor of moving forward with this timeline.

[21:08] Come

[21:13] in favor? Hi.

[21:23] What are the business?

[21:29] As a handout to your packet, you have a cut-in-back.

[21:36] And we are in the territory at the village of Gill Terrace.

[21:42] As I said earlier, this is just for information and we have Walter Sigurdner here to talk

[21:54] about the piece of property that he owns next to the village parcel from Gilleteris.

[22:02] Good evening.

[22:03] Yeah, this piece of property that's owned by the village, which is dedicated for use of

[22:09] the water collection.

[22:11] I was here earlier to talk to the water collection

[22:14] to see if, indeed, that piece of property

[22:16] is needed for their operations.

[22:20] They were not 100% sure, and they were going to look into

[22:24] and further investigate if there was a need or not.

[22:28] And if there is not a need, then I would like

[22:30] to be interested in purchasing that property

[22:33] from the fillage, considering I purchased

[22:37] the property of the guild section and the reason being is that it would help access

[22:43] to the property I bought.

[22:47] Thank you.

[22:49] Ms. Wu, go ahead.

[22:50] I just want to ask, this is all of Jay's direct property right here.

[22:54] The little shout out.

[22:55] Yeah, that is not a true and accurate survey.

[22:59] Dave Rose, do they?

[23:01] A new one this just this last year.

[23:04] So, for my partial, that's the way it comes up, but it's not going to happen.

[23:10] But did you come into the GRB a month or so?

[23:12] Excuse me.

[23:13] Did you come into the GRB a month for Sparkle?

[23:16] Someone came into the GRB with this exact thing, this way.

[23:19] I have a true and accurate survey.

[23:22] Yeah, go ahead.

[23:23] Take a look at that.

[23:25] Not recently.

[23:25] Yeah, we did that.

[23:26] Gail Terrace, and they want to write that out.

[23:29] Thank you.

[23:30] I mean, it's the autos, probably that was subdivided up just to see what

[23:39] the map

[23:40] offer shows it as a square here, but really it's kind of a, kind of a, a square and set back.

[23:50] Oh, and gotcha. But the flag still remains the same, regardless of the little square.

[23:58] What

[24:01] is the total parcel size?

[24:23] This is my first time hearing about this, so I don't have any questions for you.

[24:27] Thank you for presenting it.

[24:30] That's great.

[24:31] It just stands right now, do you have it right away in the back, right away in the back

[24:35] I have it right away in the back.

[24:36] Do you have it through the guilt here?

[24:38] No, through this.

[24:40] There's a little driveway looking at this, right at the curve.

[24:46] This is the right away.

[24:47] So this is Gil Terrace here.

[24:50] So the right away is through here, which is the right away also to access this parcel.

[24:56] And you guys are familiar with James and us properly.

[24:59] It goes through his property the right away right now.

[25:02] They came into the deer field.

[25:08] Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

[25:16] We can follow up with the water commissioners and understand that process.

[25:28] I had a question about the Special Revenue Fund for the relocation of the WWTF project.

[25:36] And when we passed that, we established the special fund for it.

[25:43] But do we establish any governance or administration of that fund directives?

[25:53] Or is it kind of, it's not clearly defined, is it?

[25:59] I don't think that.

[26:00] Well, it's a, you placed any special

[26:06] direction on it.

[26:08] We go towards, you

[26:12] know, we bow to go towards a new wastewater.

[26:15] Yes, and that's what it states, but in terms of administering the funds, the payouts,

[26:23] the project management itself of those funds, do we have clear directives?

[26:32] Is it at the discretion in the reimbursement of town manager?

[26:35] Is it at the discretion of the trustees, as I get allocated?

[26:41] I would come to the, if it's for that infrastructure, I would come to you guys and explain to you what the proposed use would be.

[26:53] They made it clear they wanted to go to the new location,

[26:59] so that's what it would go to.

[27:01] We didn't specify, and neither did the trustees, so they didn't specify, trustees didn't specify,

[27:11] What if that can or can't go toward things like design engineering scope of study which I think it should go towards

[27:24] because if you're going to build a new wastewater treatment facility, you have to have design specs for it.

[27:29] You have to build road to it, you have to do an engineering survey, all those things.

[27:34] Just curious about it, what the actual language looks like because I think we just made the motion to

[27:41] approve the fund.

[27:49] Any would get the information and pass it on and we would decide that was an assumption, it's not, not something we voted on.

[28:03] I don't know if it's something that we should clearly structure. We vote, yes.

[28:09] Yeah, develop that special room here for you.

[28:13] Which I think is that we should have done that.

[28:17] I just wonder if we should

[28:21] put more attention

[28:24] to the actual development of that fund.

[28:28] I don't know, just a thought.

[28:30] Something to think about.

[28:34] When I do believe most of our funds or special funds

[28:37] will be absorbed into the town, so it'd

[28:40] be nice to have it kind of sent.

[28:43] and we're ready to go for that.

[28:45] Is

[28:50] that probably going to happen before 27?

[28:53] What did I was thinking we have a look to have for a while?

[28:58] So we can think about that one and add some criteria.

[29:01] Yeah.

[29:02] If the trustees would like to do that,

[29:04] get certain to have.

[29:08] Did we have any other business?

[29:14] Do I have a spare?

[29:16] I can provide that as an update.

[29:18] What did you ask?

[29:19] Dorsey Park?

[29:20] Dorsey Park.

[29:20] So we did receive the agreement for the grant to replace, reconstruct, the dorsi park playground.

[29:35] There was a little bit of a hold-up in terms of that agreement being released because of the railroad right away.

[29:46] that has since been cleared and we've signed off on that agreement and so we'll

[29:56] will receive the billage will receive 98,000.

[30:14] So we have, I think we have three years to spend that money. What's the term of that easement?

[30:25] I haven't read the piece, but when I heard that we were greenlighted for it and that it was approved, so I'm okay for you.

[30:31] Yeah, that's good.

[30:32] Let's get the green one inside.

[30:33] Yeah, good.

[30:34] Thank you.

[30:34] That's huge.

[30:36] Nice.

[30:37] May I request one thing from buildings and grounds in the wreck, which I should have done yesterday?

[30:42] I forgot.

[30:44] There is a lock on the playground chain link fence by the driveway, by the parking lot there.

[30:50] I don't know if it's a safety thing to keep kids from accessing but it's a drop bar right so you have to pop it up to get it

[30:57] Anyway, be nice if it was unlocked so people from the skate park or people that are walking through or just using the field can access the water

[31:06] Fountain and water bottle dispenser in the playground

[31:11] But

[31:14] if it's a safety issue in terms of you know a lot letting kids wander into a parking lot, I totally get that too

[31:48] We've had a little bit of vandalism around the village,

[31:53] spray painting, tagging property, private and public.

[31:58] Chief Orphal has an officer that is investigating.

[32:03] Okimo had the same type of marketing as with spray paint.

[32:08] So I will have an update for you, hopefully next.

[32:14] trustees meeting.

[32:17] E-bikes have become popular here in town. And so I've talked

[32:25] with chief or fall in terms of how the state statutes look at E-bikes here in

[32:31] Vermont. And so we are researching that in terms of the type of E-bikes that are

[32:38] used in town. I know way too much about this topic.

[32:44] You're a pro like this.

[32:45] So the type of e-bikes that in the eyes of an agency within the federal government, the

[32:54] type of e-bikes that are being used are motor vehicles. And so I just need to ensure

[32:59] that what I know as a motor vehicle e-bike holds true with remote state statutes. So chief

[33:08] It's been a little bit of research.

[33:10] We know that there's zip around town.

[33:13] They go up to the cemetery quite a bit,

[33:15] and they're kind of high banking in areas.

[33:19] The three bikes that I've seen when we were setting up

[33:22] for the 4th of July, I've talked to the three gentlemen

[33:26] that were riding them and had a conversation with them.

[33:30] I thought they were sarong, and they are indeed

[33:33] sarong.

[33:34] Asking me, it's a type of bike that goes very, very

[33:46] That kind of ties into another thing that just I had a question about the weights from

[33:56] the DMV.

[33:57] Didn't we get a grant for those weigh stations?

[34:07] We have a grant and the lease on those pieces of equipment.

[34:11] Chief Warful and another officer went to training and he has the equipment on loan to utilize.

[34:23] Has he deployed any?

[34:25] I have not heard that he has started so that is another thing.

[34:33] And I know that the trustees would like to have a conversation about the

[34:36] pedestrian safety, crosswalks, people, zip-in-stops, and traffic safety in general.

[34:45] Traffic safety in general.

[34:47] Chief Warhol couldn't be here tonight, but he said August would be better.

[34:51] Okay, and then lastly we have had a lot of great response on the better connections grant

[35:00] with the SE group that we have under contract and they are helping us develop the village

[35:10] master plan for this downtown area.

[35:13] That's huge.

[35:14] I'm not sure everything, the pedestrian safety, how do we increase parking, signage?

[35:21] Alternative modes of transport?

[35:23] Maybe alternative means transportation, signing, and making branding.

[35:31] Excuse me, what was the last point of branding having in terms of sign, sign standards?

[35:38] Ms. Wu, would it make sense for the police department to give us a month of the report

[35:43] of village violations, or tickets, or warnings, or some sort of month of the report?

[35:50] Pleasure

[35:55] of the trustees.

[35:55] We can certainly ask you for forgiveness.

[35:58] Is that pertinent to us because I believe it is a village-funded department and some

[36:05] spec?

[36:07] I think so.

[36:09] Yeah. Up to the board, but it'd be nice to maybe get a pulse on what's happening in the village.

[36:15] I think we're used to get something from Jeff.

[36:19] Bill, what are you doing?

[36:21] It's just a question.

[36:22] There was just like a checklist, doesn't it?

[36:29] You know, so many speeding tickets, so many more things, stuff like that.

[36:36] Yeah, it's just a simple, I think I remember.

[36:41] What do you think?

[36:42] It may not have been for a couple of years.

[36:46] I think we're going to, I think we just do some research,

[36:48] and we'll just see, we'll do it.

[36:50] I'm not going to tell you anything about it.

[37:05] Is it for me?

[37:06] OK, is that date for next meeting?

[37:09] August 4th, 2026.

[37:14] I think we've all signed more in orders.

[37:19] It's 3rd July 23rd joint meeting,

[37:21] so we approve that SDR.

[37:23] there will be calendar were there about yes okay so that's jointed we all can make it

[37:36] I think we mostly yes I did so we should have the one-hour sign do we need an executive session

[37:47] I don't think I did it.

[37:50] You don't need it.

[37:54] I'll make motion to enter executive session.

[38:03] Persimmon.

[38:05] Persimmon.

[38:07] Persimmon.

[38:08] Thank you.

Village of Ludlow Board of Trustees 7/7

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