[0:02] Hey, good morning everybody. I want to

[0:03] welcome you to the Magna Water Board

[0:06] meeting at 888

[0:08] 8885 West 3500 South at our general

[0:12] office building. I'd like to call this

[0:13] meeting to order. Will you guys all

[0:15] please stand with for the pledge of

[0:17] allegiance?

[0:21] » I pledge algiance to the flag of the

[0:24] United States of America and to the

[0:27] republic for which it stands. One nation

[0:30] under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[0:34] justice for all.

[0:36] >> Thank you. I would like to uh welcome

[0:39] our public and guests. And today sitting

[0:41] at our dis table is our engineer Trevor

[0:44] Andre. Our sewer manager is our

[0:48] wastewater, that's better, his Dallas

[0:50] headline. Um Steve Clark is over our water and Andrew Sumpion is our

[0:58] HR. Jeff White, myself, Danny Stewart,

[1:01] chair and trustees. Leo Fitzgerald is

[1:06] our controller. Nathan Bracken is our

[1:09] legal counsel and today will be helping

[1:13] me is Clint Dilly, our general manager.

[1:16] So we're going to move on to public

[1:18] comment. Um, does anybody here have an issue with our agenda today? A

[1:24] conflict.

[1:26] Okay, I don't see anything. So, our

[1:28] first person to comment to the board is

[1:32] Tommy Martinez. So, Tommy, if you want

[1:34] to

[1:36] >> come up and

[1:57] Yeah, we just want to know what's going

[1:58] on with her. That bru

[2:08] uh they take pictures and everything and

[2:10] we told them it was blocked up the

[2:12] street by the the tongs and

[2:17] well here's the the thing on the

[2:19] plumber. He said it was

[2:24] >> Thank you.

[2:24] >> It was in that drain pipe and they came

[2:28] down there and put that that suction

[2:31] thingy in that and it rushed all the way

[2:34] down to my place and mine was the only

[2:38] house with a basement there. It all

[2:40] rushed in the house. So, I got I got a

[2:43] question for you. So, the day I spoke to

[2:44] you on the phone, um did you say that

[2:47] now correct me if I'm right or wrong,

[2:50] did you say that um the road the road to

[2:52] Rooer I'm going to use that went up the

[2:54] road they got in our main line?

[2:56] >> No.

[2:57] >> Okay. Okay. Okay. But so they didn't

[2:59] shoot nothing down there cuz I was going

[3:00] to say if they did that that's really

[3:02] against the law because

[3:04] >> we did we just went up there and checked

[3:06] it. He pulled the that big cover off and

[3:10] it was stopped right there. And when

[3:13] they came down with that that shoot,

[3:16] then it come running rushing down and

[3:18] then it went right into my basement.

[3:22] Okay. So, um, Dallas, you brought me

[3:26] some pictures. I I got to see all the

[3:27] pictures. They did the report and the

[3:30] report showed all these rags. Um,

[3:33] >> rags.

[3:34] rags like they look like mechanic

[3:37] rags or whatever they were.

[3:39] >> No, it's it's more like um paper towels,

[3:42] toilet paper, flushable wipes

[3:45] and then that mixes with just your

[3:47] typical sewer grit and organics and it

[3:50] just turns into a a black paste.

[3:52] >> Okay. So, do we have So, when we talked,

[3:56] you never did really you told me kind of

[3:58] a number. Do you know do you know what a

[4:00] number is to make you whole? was

[4:04] >> what was this going on just to to take

[4:07] that stuff off the toilet?

[4:10] >> But I mean,

[4:11] >> but what I'm trying to say is they cut

[4:13] your walls, right? They cut your walls

[4:14] because you had you had sewage and

[4:16] everything. Did they give you Have you

[4:18] had anybody give you a bid on Cuz when

[4:21] you talked to me, you told me it'd be

[4:22] about $20,000.

[4:25] >> This one is

[4:29] gel.

[4:31] A what?

[4:32] >> He gave it to the glass filter. Is that

[4:34] >> And then your uh the water company came

[4:37] down and give us a bid over the phone

[4:42] just to put it back together. It was

[4:44] like 15.

[4:47] >> Okay. Now, Mr. Chairman, I've got I've

[4:49] got those numbers handy if you want me

[4:50] to.

[4:51] >> Will you please?

[4:52] >> Sure. So, the mitigation and the cleanup

[4:55] was $18,245.75.

[5:00] And then the restoration and the repair

[5:02] to put it all back together was an

[5:04] additional $16,28043.

[5:09] » Okay.

[5:09] >> So, is that combined?

[5:11] >> It would be total. So, add those

[5:14] together.

[5:14] >> Okay.

[5:15] >> Holy cow.

[5:19] » You're roughly 35.

[5:21] >> I did. Yeah, I was the one $35,000.

[5:24] >> I was the one that was there that that

[5:25] day.

[5:27] >> Mhm.

[5:28] >> You just had come home from work.

[5:29] >> So $35,000, right?

[5:31] >> Roughly.

[5:31] $35,000.

[5:35] >> So I think the important thing some

[5:38] things to consider for the board, we

[5:40] certainly sympathize with your

[5:42] situation. Um we know that uh that's

[5:46] upsetting and no one wants to be dealing

[5:49] with that issue. Um, I do believe that

[5:52] we've handled it how we should handle

[5:55] those situations with coming out trying

[5:58] to assess what has caused the backup.

[6:03] And I think that's where we may differ

[6:05] with your assessment

[6:08] um is we don't believe that it was

[6:10] caused by something in the main

[6:13] originally. Right, Dallas?

[6:16] >> Right. Um, we believe it was associated

[6:19] with your lateral

[6:21] >> and that's

[6:22] >> and I pushed all that in the

[6:23] >> Well, that's

[6:25] >> Are you trying to tell me I

[6:27] >> no up the sewer line?

[6:29] >> The issue from what Can you describe

[6:32] what you found so that the board and Mr.

[6:35] Martinez can

[6:35] >> Yeah, I think the important thing to

[6:37] recognize here is

[6:38] >> Yeah,

[6:39] >> we can pull up the pictures too on the

[6:41] screen.

[6:41] >> Yeah, let's pull the pictures up,

[6:42] please.

[6:42] >> So, Mr. Martinez's house sits two or

[6:46] three homes.

[6:47] >> I know exactly where it sits on the

[6:49] corner.

[6:49] >> Yep. And that's brick. That's upstream

[6:51] of the manhole that had the debris in

[6:53] it. So, you know, no issues at the the

[6:56] neighbor, no issues at the other

[6:58] neighbor, no issues across the street.

[7:01] Um the the the debris that we saw

[7:05] collecting them.

[7:06] >> Just to clarify, when you say no issues,

[7:08] how did you verify that there were no

[7:10] issues? uh made contact with each of the

[7:12] customers by knocking on their door.

[7:15] >> So none of the surrounding homes had any

[7:17] of the same issues.

[7:19] >> Does that make sense that

[7:20] >> Well, it does, but the question I have

[7:22] here is so if they don't have any they they didn't have an issue, could

[7:27] that stuff came down and could that came

[7:30] down through and and brought the

[7:32] blockage?

[7:33] The way the way that I perceived it

[7:36] based on our experience and what we were

[7:37] troubleshooting that day was the same

[7:40] type of stuff that the plumber was

[7:42] pulling out of the floor drain and

[7:44] pushing through the lateral is the same

[7:46] stuff that we saw downstream

[7:48] accumulating in the manhole.

[7:51] So it's not that um when Mr. Martinez

[7:55] said they went upstream and saw the

[7:58] blockage and then we vacuumed it out and

[8:00] it all rushed down to his lateral. It

[8:03] was all below his lateral originally. So

[8:06] it was never upstream of it.

[8:11] » So do you have a picture of that?

[8:19] » So this is the this is looking down in

[8:21] the manhole. That's

[8:23] >> not on the street. Correct.

[8:25] >> Correct. Out on the street, two or three

[8:27] doors down from the corner of Tommy's

[8:29] home. And you can see that's just black

[8:33] and brown mush, um, toilet paper, paper

[8:37] towel, flushable wipes, anything that

[8:40] you would put down your sink tub or

[8:42] toilet. And then as that stuff compacts

[8:45] together in the lateral and the

[8:48] mechanical snake that the plumber's

[8:50] using to push it all, once he gets that

[8:52] to go, then it all rushes out to the

[8:54] main and we get kind of that surge flow.

[8:57] Um,

[8:58] >> so it's in a big surge going through.

[9:00] >> Correct.

[9:01] >> Okay.

[9:02] >> And then that's when their home starts

[9:03] draining. Um, we never lost flow in the

[9:06] manhole. There's still a quite a bit of

[9:08] flow going through there even if it

[9:10] doesn't look like it. But if we go to

[9:12] the other pictures, you can see that

[9:15] that's similar

[9:18] makeup and and material type of what

[9:22] they're seeing on the floor and piled up

[9:24] there that they're pulling out of the

[9:25] drains.

[9:33] So, and if you can picture just a a

[9:36] plugged lateral that's 4 in and it's

[9:38] jam-packed with debris. and they're

[9:40] rotting that with a mechanical snake.

[9:43] You know, you can punch a little hole

[9:45] and that's when it'll start draining.

[9:46] And they did that the first day. They

[9:48] got him draining and he had to call him

[9:49] back out the next day. The next day he

[9:52] stopped draining and they worked on it

[9:54] for several more hours and that's when

[9:56] they eventually made contact with the

[9:58] district.

[9:59] >> I thought we had a picture with some

[10:01] stuff on the floor there. It's just it's

[10:04] real hard to tell, but right in front of

[10:06] that snake machine, um you can see the

[10:09] pile of stuff that they're pulling out

[10:10] of the

[10:13] >> floor drain.

[10:17] » I don't know.

[10:21] » Oh, yeah.

[10:22] >> We had to go to my kids's house to sleep

[10:26] because of

[10:27] >> Well, I know. I'm just looking at think

[10:29] what a mess. I I just don't know how

[10:31] that those rags and stuff would go up a

[10:33] 4 inch lateral from the main. I I don't

[10:36] see how that would

[10:37] >> right. They wouldn't.

[10:39] >> So So that's the challenge. Um well, I

[10:42] I'm going to make I'm going to make an

[10:44] recommendation to the board. Okay.

[10:45] >> And you guys can go sideways. I mean, go

[10:47] whatever way you guys want. I recommend

[10:49] pay the $35,000. Let's let's make him

[10:52] whole. Let's put a policy together

[10:54] because we don't Our policies change all

[10:56] the time. We one time we do this, one

[10:58] time we do this. My recommendation, give

[11:01] him the $35,000. Let's make him whole

[11:04] and then let's us the district get a

[11:06] policy in place and let's make sure the

[11:08] policy and give it to legal counsel so

[11:10] he can review it and we can go from

[11:12] there. So that I don't know if I could

[11:15] Can that be a motion, Nathan?

[11:17] >> It certainly could.

[11:19] >> That that is my motion.

[11:20] >> Well, I'm recommending though you've

[11:22] only got we've only you've only seen one

[11:24] bid for fixing What's been

[11:28] >> we went with the cheapest that you know

[11:30] we

[11:31] >> How many bids did you get?

[11:34] >> They told us just to get you guys were b

[11:37] they sent their people over our house.

[11:41] >> Who is it that we used? Alice, who is it

[11:43] we used? It was um

[11:46] >> Is that the quotes from our insurance?

[11:49] >> It is. Yes.

[11:49] >> So that's the underwriter quotes. We

[11:51] don't have any quotes from a contractor

[11:53] or anything. That's just from our

[11:54] instructor. So, you've got to get quotes

[11:56] from a contractor.

[11:57] >> So, my recommendation is go out, have

[12:00] them come out because apparently this is

[12:01] from our insurance company.

[12:03] >> I already fixed it. I mean,

[12:05] >> no, the

[12:05] >> I couldn't I couldn't wait for you. The

[12:08] insurance

[12:08] >> So, do you have do you have receipts of

[12:10] everything that you've done? If you want

[12:12] to give

[12:12] >> about the same

[12:14] >> if you want to if you want to produce

[12:15] every every receipt to the to the city I

[12:18] mean to the to the water district and

[12:22] that I I myself I don't have a problem

[12:24] paying it

[12:26] >> if you have all the receipts but we as

[12:29] taxpayers as you are and I am and us

[12:31] here we can't we can't just write you a

[12:34] check without just you know throwing you

[12:36] a check out say here you go we need we

[12:39] need all the receipts to everything that

[12:40] you've on down there to make you whole.

[12:46] >> And if you've went over if you went over

[12:48] on to make things nicer, we can't fund

[12:51] that either. Just But we can fund I'm

[12:53] willing to fund I'm willing to fund

[12:57] >> the 35.

[12:59] >> Well, if we have the if we have the

[13:01] receipts.

[13:01] >> Okay.

[13:02] >> I can't I I'd get in trouble if I said,

[13:04] "Here, Leon, go give me a check. Prefer

[13:07] $35,000."

[13:08] I can't do that.

[13:10] How come your insurance company never

[13:12] covered any of it?

[13:13] >> Uh they were going to they told us to

[13:15] come up and talk to them today. We told

[13:18] them we're going to meet with you guys.

[13:20] So they were going to come out to you

[13:22] guys

[13:25] if they didn't hear anything good from

[13:27] you guys.

[13:30] >> So do we want their insurance to come

[13:32] after us? I mean what do you what's your

[13:34] recommendation? Typically the two

[13:35] insurance companies will work together

[13:37] and find it out. I

[13:38] >> And then who did you talk to today about

[13:40] the another person

[13:43] >> just the state insurance?

[13:45] >> Okay.

[13:45] >> So So my suggestion I mean the standard

[13:47] process is it sounds like there's a a

[13:49] question as to what's the cause. So

[13:52] typically we've we've already reported

[13:53] this to our insurance company.

[13:55] >> Correct. And they've made they've made a

[13:57] finding that it was no fault of the

[13:59] district.

[14:00] >> So our insurance company's made that

[14:01] finding. your So my suggestion is before

[14:04] we go further, have the two insurance

[14:06] companies talk to each other because

[14:07] that's usually the standard process.

[14:09] >> Yeah. And my understanding is your

[14:11] insurance company found it was no fault

[14:13] as well

[14:14] >> to us.

[14:15] >> Well, to the district

[14:17] >> and so which case they their insurance

[14:19] company should pay for it depending on

[14:21] the terms of their coverage.

[14:22] >> Right.

[14:23] >> And so that's that's maybe the question

[14:24] I have legally. That's our challenge

[14:26] >> is is the way that this should work is

[14:27] if it's the district's fault, the

[14:29] district's insurance should cover it or

[14:31] you know we pay for it some other way

[14:32] but if it's the homeowner's fault or if

[14:34] not your fault but if it's not the

[14:36] district's that it should be covered

[14:37] under your insurance policy,

[14:39] >> right?

[14:40] >> Insurance should help him.

[14:41] >> Yeah. So that's and so and the

[14:43] difference the difference I just for the

[14:46] board the reason my understanding the

[14:49] reason that the board has participated

[14:51] in the past is because when it's not

[14:56] when it's found no fault but it is in

[14:59] the main and there's no way to determine

[15:03] it was a homeowner right

[15:05] >> it was something that we didn't know

[15:07] about it wasn't due to improper

[15:09] maintenance it wasn't doesn't do the

[15:12] district's done everything in the past

[15:14] when that's happened and it's affected

[15:15] multiple homeowners.

[15:17] >> There have been instances when the board

[15:19] has held them,

[15:20] >> right? But I'm going to I'm going to

[15:22] step out of the lane right now.

[15:24] Insurance is the biggest fraudulent

[15:25] thing out there. They turn around and

[15:27] you pay insurance and pay insurance and

[15:29] they're going to pick and choose what

[15:30] they're going to pay. I I just seen this

[15:32] happen to a friend of mine here about

[15:34] two weeks ago on an incident and he's

[15:36] been with his insurance company for 40

[15:38] plus years and they denied him and and

[15:41] so my recommendation is have the two

[15:43] insurance ours and his they're his

[15:45] insurance work together let's come up

[15:47] and like you said if you can produce all

[15:49] the receipts of all the stuff that

[15:51] you've done then I don't have a problem

[15:54] moving forward but again I'm only I'm

[15:56] the chair but these guys are

[15:59] >> so I agree with that

[16:00] >> Mick can I maybe motion then

[16:03] >> I I because what I'm hearing you're

[16:04] saying and this is my suggestion too is

[16:06] I agree with you completely. I used to

[16:08] sue insurance companies, but that said,

[16:10] we haven't it doesn't sound like this

[16:11] process is completed,

[16:12] >> right?

[16:12] >> So before because there's a chance

[16:15] they're if they both are on the same

[16:17] page, then it's a chance that their

[16:19] insurance company would say, "Yeah,

[16:20] we'll pay for it, right?"

[16:21] >> In which case, there's no need for us to

[16:23] go through it. But if if it ends up

[16:25] being denied and they're left out in the

[16:26] cold, then that's when we could have

[16:28] maybe a further discussion. Okay.

[16:29] >> It just sounds like maybe we're a little

[16:30] premature at this point.

[16:32] >> Okay. I had thought when I heard about

[16:34] this that the insurance that had already

[16:36] been denied, but you haven't been denied

[16:37] yet. My understanding is

[16:39] >> agree with a lot of stuff and I got to I

[16:41] can't live like that.

[16:42] >> No, absolutely not.

[16:44] >> I had to I can't put my family in

[16:47] something like that. No,

[16:48] >> I won't do it

[16:49] >> for for sure. But

[16:50] >> I fixed it myself.

[16:51] >> So, you fixed it yourself, but your

[16:52] insurance company hasn't denied the

[16:54] claim?

[16:54] >> No.

[16:55] >> Okay. So, that hasn't happened yet.

[16:57] So

[16:58] >> they they did too deny it because I got the they did they did deny it

[17:02] because I got I got the letter. It's

[17:04] been denied.

[17:04] >> Okay. But so they denied it, but has

[17:07] there have they talked with our

[17:08] insurance company yet?

[17:10] >> Yeah.

[17:11] >> Okay. They need to do that.

[17:13] >> Yeah. So I I mean I typically I'm not

[17:16] >> Can you give Can you give them the name

[17:17] of our insurance company so when they

[17:18] leave here today they have the numbers

[17:20] that your insurance can come so we're

[17:22] not going back and forth and all that?

[17:25] >> Dr.

[17:26] Yep.

[17:28] >> But like I said, if you two can work it

[17:30] out and then whatever we have to do on

[17:32] our end, I'm willing to do this. But my

[17:34] deal is we need to have a policy in

[17:36] place that actually stricts and stands

[17:39] for where we're at. Cuz as I read our

[17:42] policy, it's not really I mean it's kind

[17:44] of here here.

[17:46] >> Yeah.

[17:46] >> And we need to have we need to look at

[17:48] our policy and look have legal counsel

[17:50] re review it and then take it from there

[17:53] if you guys are okay with that.

[17:54] >> Yeah. I think that's a good approach.

[17:57] Um, it's setting aside what that policy

[18:00] does is it puts money that we would set

[18:04] aside in the account rather than in the

[18:06] reserve funds. it goes to a separate

[18:10] account that's just set aside for

[18:12] situations

[18:14] um where the district feels like, hey,

[18:17] it wasn't our fault, but we'll

[18:20] participate because maybe there's some

[18:22] >> Well, and I keep going back I keep going

[18:24] back to the 7200 deal when we had that

[18:26] backup that flooded all them homes and

[18:29] it cost the district a lot of money. And

[18:32] I I feel like on our end, we could have

[18:35] probably did things a little bit

[18:36] different, but you know what? We need to

[18:38] get a policy in place that's actually

[18:40] going to be broad. So when something

[18:42] like this comes, it's either yes or no,

[18:44] and there's no gray in between.

[18:46] >> So just for my benefit, why did your

[18:48] insurance carrier deny your claim?

[18:51] >> Because these guys said they're going to

[18:53] pay for everything and they said the

[18:56] plumber said was was the backup backup

[19:00] there. So, so your plumber said that it

[19:03] said it was the district's fault, but

[19:06] Clint, I thought you said that their

[19:07] carrier determined that it

[19:08] >> Yeah, they determined that it was no

[19:10] fault.

[19:10] >> I did not.

[19:12] >> Sure.

[19:14] >> The letter The letter that I saw that

[19:17] was mailed to

[19:21] » Mick

[19:22] was from our insurance, wasn't it?

[19:24] >> Yeah. Yeah. There's

[19:26] >> Have they really been denied?

[19:27] >> Yeah. What? No, they have they don't we

[19:30] don't use Kleinfeld. What's it's

[19:32] Kleinfelter that you've been working

[19:33] for, right?

[19:34] >> Your insurance company.

[19:35] >> Glad filter.

[19:37] >> Cloud filter. That's your insurance,

[19:39] right?

[19:40] >> Yeah.

[19:44] » Is that what the

[19:45] >> Clint

[19:48] filters through? Oh, okay.

[19:54] » Okay. So, has your

[19:58] Okay. That's through Oh, this is this is

[20:00] your insurance through our

[20:02] >> Olympus. Yes.

[20:03] >> So, so this is from

[20:04] >> This is from us from us. Lad Filter

[20:06] represents us through Olympus.

[20:08] >> That's right.

[20:08] >> Yes. So, so you're is Is this what

[20:10] you're referring to as your insurance?

[20:12] Okay. So, this is our insurance company.

[20:13] >> That's right.

[20:14] >> Have you received anything from your

[20:15] insurance company?

[20:29] Okay. Yeah, they're saying that they

[20:31] initially found it was on the city side,

[20:34] but it was not from our determination.

[20:37] >> So, there's a conflict between the two.

[20:39] Okay. So, so when that happens,

[20:41] typically the insurance companies need

[20:42] at that point to confer with each other,

[20:44] >> right?

[20:45] >> And then

[20:47] >> Oh, that'll be good.

[20:49] >> That's what I said. What are we paying

[20:50] the insurance for? They ain't covering

[20:53] anything.

[20:54] >> Well, that's you know, just like

[20:56] California and those houses were they're

[20:59] going out of business. I mean, that's

[21:01] wrong.

[21:03] >> Yeah, it is.

[21:04] >> Trust me. I think about that every day.

[21:05] I think if I have

[21:06] >> if I have something happen to my house,

[21:08] are they going to cover it?

[21:10] >> It's like they pick and choose who they

[21:11] want to cover.

[21:13] >> Yeah. I would say we do both. I say we

[21:15] instruct these people to call. Can we

[21:16] make a copy of this? Because what what I

[21:19] would suggest is that we have we

[21:21] instruct our guys to contact their guys

[21:24] and vice versa

[21:25] >> because I'm not I I think the issue is

[21:29] to our knowledge did these guys do an

[21:31] independent investigation

[21:33] >> or do they just base it off what your

[21:34] plumber said?

[21:36] >> You guys did they're the only ones.

[21:38] >> Yeah, you guys did an independent

[21:39] investigation. But has your insurance

[21:41] carrier seen the results of their

[21:42] investigation?

[21:43] >> Our insurance come in?

[21:44] >> No.

[21:45] >> So they're just going off of what your

[21:47] plumber said? Yeah.

[21:48] >> Okay. So, that I think is the problem is

[21:50] your plumber didn't have the ability to

[21:52] do the investigation that they did and

[21:54] your plumber determined that it was

[21:56] likely on the city main side. And so,

[21:59] these guys probably just went off of

[22:01] that and they are denying you based on

[22:04] in my opinion an incorrect assumption

[22:06] because they're saying, "Well, you're

[22:07] what?" They're denying you because

[22:09] they're saying, "Well, that our policy

[22:11] doesn't cover the city's system and

[22:13] therefore you're uninsured. go after the

[22:15] city or or in this case the district,

[22:17] but I'm and I don't have your policy,

[22:19] but I'm willing to assume that it does

[22:21] cover stuff that's in the lateral. So,

[22:23] if they're instructed that it is in the

[22:25] lateral and our guys can give them the

[22:26] information, hopefully that So, this is

[22:28] typically how this process should work.

[22:30] So, it sounds like there's a next step

[22:32] that hasn't happened yet. So, in my

[22:34] opinion, it's it's make we can totally

[22:37] do what you want to do, but I I say

[22:38] before you spend tax,

[22:39] >> I agree with you. I I want like I said,

[22:40] I want to keep us out of trouble. I want

[22:42] to do the right thing. If we haven't

[22:43] went and made the whole got it all done,

[22:46] we need to put the puzzle fully together

[22:48] and

[22:49] >> but if their insurance company is on the

[22:51] hook for this and they've been paying

[22:52] for that insurance, they're entitled to

[22:54] it. So, let's work together to make

[22:55] their insurance pay for it.

[22:57] >> Yep.

[22:58] >> And then if that's not possible, then we

[23:00] can come back and have this discussion.

[23:02] Does that sound fair?

[23:04] >> Are you guys okay with that?

[23:05] >> Yeah.

[23:08] because I it sounds like your insurance

[23:10] company's operating off of just that initial fact sheet. They haven't

[23:13] talked with ours. They haven't seen the

[23:15] investigations we've done. And hopefully

[23:17] if they do, that will bring in a

[23:19] different section of your homeowner's

[23:20] policy that typically covers this type

[23:22] of thing. Now, I don't know what your

[23:23] policy says, but that's what the

[23:26] insurance company should work out.

[23:27] >> Yeah. You guys are willing to come in

[23:29] and take a look, but we did. I mean, we

[23:33] >> Yeah, but that that should really be

[23:35] your insurance company, right? and and

[23:37] it doesn't sound like they have come in

[23:39] and they they just saw that said it's

[23:41] not our fault. Deal with somebody else.

[23:44] >> Um and are trying to wash their hands of

[23:46] it.

[23:50] » Yeah, cuz like you like you say, you

[23:52] just

[23:53] >> Oh, I can imagine. I mean,

[23:56] >> we've dealt with quite a bit of this

[23:58] stuff over when we had an issue and

[24:00] >> I was mad cuz I yelled at him. I said,

[24:02] "I want your ass over here and get this

[24:05] thing cleaned up. This is my house. And

[24:08] I said, I won't bring nobody in here. I

[24:11] didn't even want to go downstairs.

[24:14] >> They came over. I says, "Hey,

[24:16] >> just get just get it done. I don't care.

[24:19] I mean, and they said, "Get the

[24:24] what is it? The disaster thing."

[24:27] >> Was that disaster cleanup is what we

[24:29] used? Yeah,

[24:30] >> we we don't make a specific

[24:32] recommendation, but we do recommend

[24:34] calling somebody like that with a

[24:36] disaster.

[24:36] >> Do we have do we have a list of of

[24:38] people on that list that we could give

[24:40] our people when we have this? So,

[24:42] >> we do.

[24:43] >> Okay. So, we do give that to them.

[24:45] >> We just we do, but we say you can use

[24:47] whoever you want.

[24:48] >> Right. Right. Right. Right. You can't

[24:49] say use me.

[24:50] >> Looks like true restore was used.

[24:53] >> Okay.

[24:54] >> Is that correct?

[24:55] >> True restore did the work. Yeah.

[24:58] >> So, Nathan, really fast, you want where

[25:01] do we where do we proceed from this?

[25:03] >> So, what I'm what I'm recommending is we

[25:05] contact our insurer. We explain the

[25:08] situation in greater detail. We send

[25:10] them a copy of this letter and we say

[25:12] here's the issue is we have done an

[25:14] investigation and determined that it

[25:16] wasn't in the main and it was something

[25:17] in the lateral. American Family

[25:20] Insurance has determined that it it was

[25:22] in our system which we've shown that

[25:24] it's not. And so as a result, American

[25:26] Family Insurance is incorrectly denying

[25:28] the claim on an improper basis. And

[25:31] therefore, please work with them to

[25:33] figure this out and then report back.

[25:35] Then you guys can do the same. Um, and

[25:39] so that way now I'm not going to

[25:42] guarantee that the insurance company's

[25:44] going to agree, right? And that's but by

[25:46] that point, maybe we can have the policy

[25:47] adopted and so, you know, we'll be um

[25:51] dealt with in that way. But like I think

[25:54] so what they're excluding is

[26:10] yeah storm drainer water seam or sewer

[26:13] pipe off the resident premises. So

[26:15] that's what they're denying you on is

[26:16] they're saying it was off the premises.

[26:18] That's where the blockage occurred.

[26:20] That's not what we covered. But if

[26:22] they're showing it's on the premises

[26:24] that this should not apply. Their denial

[26:26] would be inaccurate. So does that make

[26:28] sense?

[26:29] >> So we'll contact our guys and tell them

[26:31] to work on this. Explain it. I do the

[26:33] same.

[26:35] >> No. No.

[26:36] >> Are these ours?

[26:37] >> Oh, did we give them back their copies

[26:39] already? Okay. All right.

[26:42] >> Is that fair?

[26:43] >> Yeah.

[26:43] >> Okay.

[26:47] >> Appreciate you.

[26:48] >> Thank you.

[26:49] Tommy.

[26:52] Okay, let's move on to our employees.

[26:56] Okay, thanks board chair. Uh, first we

[27:00] got just we had three our three newest

[27:03] employees attend Flagger certification

[27:05] course. Gavin Ferguson, D Honey, and

[27:09] Taylor Warner. Um, this is a good step

[27:12] for them as we get new employees. This

[27:14] is one of the first things we like to

[27:15] get them certified in so that they can

[27:19] be a good part of uh traffic control

[27:23] when we're doing some repairs. Um helps

[27:27] keep us safe and so we're glad that they

[27:29] were able to get that done. And then

[27:31] next we have Dylan Delbell. Uh he's here

[27:35] with us today. Uh what we brought him in

[27:39] for is a couple months ago we were

[27:42] looking at possibly making some changes

[27:45] to our health and wellness program to

[27:47] see if we could uh boost the

[27:51] uh

[27:53] employee

[27:56] enrollment in it. Get them to buy in a

[27:59] little bit better. And so at that point

[28:01] >> say when you say buy in, explain to me

[28:03] what you mean by that. that we were

[28:05] going to be doing things that they that

[28:07] they wanted to participate in better. We

[28:09] had the same employees doing it every

[28:11] month, which was probably I'd say around

[28:15] 24 of the 35 were participating all the

[28:19] time.

[28:19] >> So when you Okay, I'm lost. So when you

[28:22] say 30 participating in what

[28:25] >> we do,

[28:26] >> is it something that we as the board

[28:27] don't know about? No, we you've you've

[28:30] approved it in the past.

[28:31] >> But what

[28:32] >> if we do monthly challenges where we

[28:36] encourage them to do things like

[28:38] exercise,

[28:40] uh healthy healthy eating. Um

[28:44] >> well, where do I where do I sign up for

[28:46] that?

[28:47] >> We'll we'll get we'll get you in.

[28:49] >> And so we do mental health months, we do

[28:52] >> I need that, too. So

[28:53] >> we do financial health months. We do a

[28:55] lot of things with it to try and help

[28:57] the employees better their their health

[29:01] and wellness.

[29:02] >> And I love that. That's a great idea. In

[29:03] fact, now, okay, it's all I'm trying to

[29:06] put everything. Okay. Yes. And so

[29:09] when we decided that we were going to

[29:11] change the program a little bit, we went

[29:13] to the employees and we asked them if

[29:16] there was any ideas that they could come

[29:18] up with that would make them want to be

[29:21] more involved as well as help the people

[29:24] that if they're already doing it, help

[29:25] the other people get involved. And to

[29:28] Dylan's credit, he was not only the

[29:30] first, he was the only one that stepped

[29:31] up and he came with a lot of good ideas.

[29:34] >> Great. Um, probably the best the best of

[29:36] it was not only did he come with a

[29:38] solution with some some program ideas,

[29:41] but he also came with the idea of, hey,

[29:43] let's build a a health and wellness

[29:45] committee like we have with some of the

[29:47] other things. We get a person on each

[29:49] crew that will help drive their crews in

[29:52] reminding them to participate in these

[29:54] initiatives. And so, uh, with Dylan's

[29:59] help, we're making that committee. And

[30:01] we're just grateful when, uh, employees

[30:04] take the the role of improving our

[30:08] culture. And so, thank you, Dylan. We

[30:12] got to get

[30:13] >> presenting with a little something from

[30:15] >> He needs to be in the little back of my

[30:18] head. The voice in the voice is in my

[30:20] head. You need to be in there.

[30:22] >> Do you have anything to add, Dallas?

[30:24] >> Dylan.

[30:24] >> Yeah.

[30:25] appreciate that.

[30:28] >> Thank you.

[30:29] >> I would just say Dylan's a huge part of

[30:31] why morale at the treatment plan is so

[30:34] big. Um I think the cool thing about

[30:37] Dylan is he recognizes how hard the

[30:39] board has worked to try to increase

[30:40] morale over the last several years. Um

[30:44] and the board can do so much to increase

[30:46] the morale, but it's up to all of us to

[30:49] maintain that morale. Um, so for Dylan

[30:51] to be able to see the whole picture and

[30:53] see all the moving parts, um, it's just a testament to how hard he

[30:58] works and and how much he likes the

[31:00] district and his role. Um, and we

[31:02] appreciate the mutual respect and it it

[31:05] just says a lot about who you are and

[31:07] where you're going. So, thank you very

[31:08] much.

[31:09] >> Great.

[31:09] >> Thanks, D. And I'm and I'm really

[31:11] impressed because like I said when I

[31:12] come down tour the sewer plant you know

[31:14] just you guys are all big great you know

[31:16] like a big family and you guys work

[31:18] really all work really good together and

[31:20] if there's any issues you guys figure it

[31:21] out and I'm I've always I've always said

[31:24] this when I come down there I'm just

[31:26] amazed how you guys all work together

[31:28] and that's you don't see that much

[31:29] anymore.

[31:30] >> It's good to see a positive person for a

[31:32] change you know.

[31:34] >> Thank you.

[31:35] I've been working on.

[31:43] » Okay. Thank you, Andrew. So, let's move

[31:46] on to our our common consent items.

[31:50] >> Minutes of the regular board meeting

[31:51] held February 12th, 2026. Minutes of the

[31:55] public hearing held February 19th, 2026.

[32:00] Expenses from February uh 2nd to March

[32:03] 1st, 2026. General expenses 1,639,951.85

[32:12] size bank pal payment $83,53083.

[32:18] » I'll second it.

[32:19] >> Motion second. All in favor?

[32:21] >> I I

[32:24] Okay, Clint, let's move on to your

[32:25] general general manage report.

[32:27] >> Thanks, Mr. Chairman. on staffing. Just

[32:31] uh highlight a couple things on the

[32:33] water operations, the construction crew.

[32:36] We had that service maintenance position

[32:38] open. Uh we've went through some

[32:41] selection and uh we've made an offer and

[32:44] he's accepted. So that position will

[32:46] start 23rd

[32:48] >> on the 23rd. October 23 or March 23rd.

[32:51] >> March 12th. Be a long wait.

[32:54] >> Six. Wrong season.

[32:55] >> Yeah.

[32:56] >> Who is it?

[32:57] >> Uh Daniel Klein. Daniel.

[32:59] >> Yep.

[33:00] >> Daniel

[33:02] >> came recommended uh several people in

[33:06] the district. He's from the area.

[33:07] >> From the area. He's been doing cabinetry

[33:09] for a while.

[33:12] >> Well, he's got two weeks. He can get us

[33:13] some cabinets.

[33:15] >> That That must be a tough job. That must

[33:17] be really relentless.

[33:19] >> And And I just wondered, do we have any

[33:21] recourse on people to come and treat our

[33:23] customer service people bad? Oh, on the

[33:27] Well, obviously with customers, we're

[33:32] trying to understand what they're coming

[33:34] in so frustrated and angry about.

[33:39] So, we have systems in place to try to

[33:42] diffuse those interactions.

[33:45] >> Can you share them with me?

[33:47] >> The first one is is uh Oh, hey, I can

[33:50] see you're upset. Let me have you talk

[33:52] to my supervisor. Right. And just that

[33:55] initial,

[33:57] we call it stall and call someone

[34:01] >> that usually brings the temperature down

[34:04] just by going through that act.

[34:06] >> Um because it brings the customer now

[34:09] recognizes oo I've been I'm I'm my

[34:12] emotional level is enough. I can tell

[34:15] this person wants to pass me on to

[34:19] someone else. Right? So that's the first

[34:21] step. That's usually pretty effective,

[34:24] but it's still discouraging. I mean,

[34:27] there's a downside to that in that the

[34:29] customer or the employee feels like they

[34:33] can't address the issue, right? And

[34:36] that's certainly an option for them, but

[34:39] we also don't want to subject them to

[34:41] unnecessary

[34:42] >> taking a toll on our employees though.

[34:44] This is the second employee we've had

[34:45] that's turned it down.

[34:47] >> Yeah,

[34:47] >> it's a tough role. So, what can we do to

[34:49] improve that? Do we need to send letters

[34:52] out to our customers to say

[34:54] >> I don't we could I don't know that that

[34:57] would

[34:59] >> it's going to it's going to reach the

[35:01] people that we don't need to reach in my

[35:03] >> well and and and right now let's just

[35:05] say we're in a really ugly place right

[35:08] now in this in this country and I'm just

[35:10] going to say as me as the mayor of the

[35:12] town I deal with this every day. Nathan

[35:14] knows what I go through. uh he because

[35:16] he's our legal counsel and it's ugly and

[35:19] you know and you try sometimes you just

[35:21] you want you if they're wrong you can't

[35:24] just say agree because then they figure

[35:25] you you're on their side but you say hey

[35:27] I understand I understand but that still

[35:29] ain't good enough people get really mean

[35:31] and nasty I mean and and and like you

[35:34] say I understand your point but I

[35:36] understand I like what Clint does is I

[35:38] wish I had some say oh by the way here

[35:40] let me hand this over to somebody else

[35:41] well I'm the the buck stop this buck

[35:44] stops at me Right. So I just but I like

[35:47] that. I mean you know

[35:49] >> it does seem to be effective in a lot of

[35:51] cases

[35:52] >> but like I said

[35:53] >> but if it reaches if the customer

[35:55] becomes belligerent and name calling and

[35:57] personal attacks we have direct we have

[36:00] directed them to say hey I'd love to

[36:02] help you but I can't help you if you're

[36:04] going to call me names.

[36:06] >> I got to let you go into Cape that's

[36:08] professional. Give us a call back when

[36:09] you are able. So they

[36:12] >> mostly phone or in person?

[36:15] >> Phone.

[36:17] >> A lot of people say a lot of things over

[36:19] the phone that they won't say to you

[36:20] face to face. Right.

[36:21] >> Okay.

[36:22] >> I think we try to do is we have a daily

[36:26] check-in meeting in the morning. We try

[36:28] to talk about those things. Uh we try to

[36:31] have a sense of humor about it if we

[36:33] can. Um we try to talk through

[36:36] strategies. we work on mental health and really trying to and Lyle has done a

[36:43] great job with the team. Um I think it's

[36:47] one of those unfortunate circumstances.

[36:50] There's probably more uh going on. It

[36:54] sounds like there's some interest in

[36:56] going back to school. Um so

[36:59] >> how long has she been with us? Three

[37:00] months?

[37:01] >> No.

[37:01] >> Uh probably six.

[37:03] >> Six months.

[37:04] >> And she started in June. I really like

[37:07] her a lot. She's got a great personality

[37:09] and she was able to deal

[37:10] >> a lot to the office.

[37:12] >> She was a sweetheart.

[37:14] >> Yeah.

[37:14] >> Okay.

[37:15] >> You know, but I understand that with

[37:16] this incident that we had up here on

[37:18] 4100, I got called a a death mayor, you

[37:21] know, like everything falls onto me.

[37:24] >> Awful.

[37:26] >> But we'll continue to look. I think it's

[37:29] always good to look at things that we

[37:31] can do.

[37:32] >> Turn the volume down and say hello.

[37:34] What?

[37:36] The hardest part is they're dealing with

[37:37] people that are having one of the worst

[37:39] days of their of their year.

[37:40] >> No kidding. I I just don't.

[37:42] >> But nobody needs to be cussed and sw and

[37:44] swore at, you know. I mean,

[37:46] >> cuz I've done that and had people hang

[37:48] up and then I even get mad and then they

[37:49] won't answer the phone.

[37:53] >> So,

[37:53] >> no. And if is there classes? I mean, I

[37:56] don't know what kind of classes, but

[37:57] >> yeah, they have taken classes on

[37:59] >> customer service classes

[38:00] >> on how to deal with upset customer.

[38:02] >> I think you're doing a good job. Yeah,

[38:05] >> you just can't predict what kind of

[38:07] stuff that's going to come in on the

[38:08] >> you know and each of us each of us has a

[38:11] different sensitivity to that. Some

[38:13] people it doesn't bother, others it

[38:15] really bothers and that's okay. You

[38:19] know,

[38:19] >> it's like having thick skin, but how

[38:21] thick that how thick can that skin

[38:22] really be, right?

[38:24] >> Happy leather.

[38:26] >> So, that position we did post in house

[38:29] and one of our other employees is going

[38:31] to move over uh to that position.

[38:34] >> Can I ask you really quick just off

[38:35] hand, what is the pay of that job

[38:37] starting out? Do you know what that pay

[38:39] is?

[38:39] >> Uh I can tell you the job.

[38:42] I'm sorry. I I should know all these

[38:45] >> free I was thinking,

[38:46] >> wasn't it?

[38:47] >> I should know what these pay

[38:49] >> pay is, but I just

[38:51] >> starts at 2146

[38:54] and the range ends at 2980.

[38:58] >> And does that go by qualifications to

[39:00] get you more money?

[39:01] >> Yes.

[39:02] >> Okay.

[39:03] >> Yeah. Like I said, if you're going to

[39:04] take all that abuse, you should just go

[39:05] down to McDonald's and make that.

[39:09] » They'll list it to you down there. you

[39:11] get the wrong order. Okay.

[39:13] >> Um I guess maybe we could focus on

[39:17] more ways that the customers feel heard

[39:21] and that we're responsive to them.

[39:24] >> I think you're doing a good job.

[39:25] >> So do I. The bad thing is when the

[39:27] customer is so mad you can't talk over

[39:29] them, right? Because they're just

[39:32] >> um So that position will be filled, but

[39:35] we're having to wait another week before

[39:37] we can go outside.

[39:40] That'll be posted.

[39:41] >> Okay, that sounds great.

[39:43] >> And you thought we the four 10-hour

[39:45] days, right? And all the holidays and

[39:46] vacation, all that. But

[39:48] >> Oh, yeah.

[39:50] >> On the operations, I'll point out a

[39:52] couple things. We have been, as you

[39:55] know, continuing work on draining and

[39:57] cleaning and inspecting the drinking

[39:59] water storage tanks. Unfortunately, we

[40:02] did run into a issue that I'll have uh

[40:06] Steve and Trevor and maybe Don even

[40:09] might provide his input with regards to

[40:11] the painting system in the big tank over

[40:14] here.

[40:14] >> And when was the last time you told me,

[40:17] Steve, when was the last time we painted

[40:18] the inside of that tank?

[40:20] >> Five years.

[40:21] >> Has it been five years?

[40:23] >> Yeah. 21.

[40:24] >> Um what's happen is the top layer is

[40:27] peeling off.

[40:29] I don't know if you

[40:31] >> I pretty well thought we repainted that

[40:33] because the top was all corroded.

[40:36] >> It was repainted.

[40:37] >> Yeah, it 5 years ago it was repainted

[40:40] and

[40:41] >> and it's coming off now.

[40:42] >> Yeah, it's failing. So

[40:43] >> So who did it? We better get a hold of

[40:45] them.

[40:45] >> So that's where we can have Trevor and

[40:48] Don maybe

[40:49] >> what we've investigated, what we found.

[40:52] >> I remember we had we went out extra for

[40:54] that just because it was corroded. We

[40:57] because of that.

[40:58] >> Yep. The metal.

[40:59] >> Yeah. As you can remember, these tanks

[41:01] have periodically been taken down

[41:03] >> and repainted. Sometimes they're touched

[41:05] up. Sometimes a whole new systems put

[41:07] in.

[41:08] >> So, can you

[41:08] >> This was a This was a new system.

[41:11] >> We paid for sand blasting and repainting

[41:14] that roof. I remember positivity.

[41:16] >> We did. And that's this is the new

[41:18] system that's filled.

[41:19] >> And that isn't the tank that what got in

[41:21] there, right?

[41:23] >> So, what happened is is that

[41:27] We sanded it down and then we put a

[41:30] three to

[41:36] » tan color and finish with a

[41:40] shown evidence here is we've got problem

[41:44] second and third coat.

[41:46] >> So we don't have any rusting that's

[41:48] occurring between the codes. It's just

[41:51] >> it's laminating.

[41:52] >> What we're trying to find out how

[41:56] We can determine the magnitude of it.

[41:58] But it does mean we're need to go in

[42:02] and sand

[42:05] profile so we can put another coat on.

[42:10] >> I've never I've never seen that ever in

[42:12] my career. We don't know yet what the

[42:16] reason is. We're trying to scan the logs

[42:18] to see if we have a temperature problem.

[42:22] Did we have something that froze?

[42:29] But it doesn't look like it's the entire

[42:32] tank. Looks like it's on the north side,

[42:36] but clearly our

[42:40] emergency repair.

[42:43] We don't need it down there because all

[42:45] primer and the first coat on it is fine.

[42:48] It's just our second coat.

[42:52] peel off big sheets. It's just bizarre.

[42:56] >> When was these When was these tanks

[42:58] built?

[43:01] >> I think they're in the 60s.

[43:03] >> Yeah. But the whole question is he could

[43:05] have had moisture on that between those

[43:08] coats and he wasn't paying attention.

[43:11] >> Yeah. They're also analyzing the paint

[43:15] chips to see if the mix was correct,

[43:18] which could potentially

[43:19] >> mixes it and he probably didn't mix it

[43:21] right

[43:21] >> and that's so we're Yeah. part of the

[43:24] investigation

[43:24] >> for it.

[43:25] >> Yeah.

[43:25] >> Well, the company that did it in 21 is

[43:29] out of business.

[43:31] Um, Tenemic has been very helpful.

[43:34] They're doing their analysis. Um,

[43:37] they've made they'll make some

[43:38] recommendations. Um, they have some

[43:41] painters that we're trying to schedule

[43:43] to have come look a little more.

[43:45] >> That all we use is tiny meat because

[43:46] there's other better ones out there.

[43:48] >> Well, they were the ones that provided

[43:49] the product for this volunteer.

[43:56] » That's pretty neat.

[44:00] » Well, I don't know if I agree that now

[44:02] because Sher Williams has sure tried to

[44:04] come up to speak.

[44:05] >> I do agree with that. I do agree with

[44:08] big strides.

[44:10] So I think the concern is timing. These

[44:14] tanks are critical to have online during

[44:17] June, July,

[44:19] >> middle of summer.

[44:20] >> So we're going to have if we're going to

[44:22] do it now, we're going to have to move

[44:23] rather quickly. Uh if or we make the

[44:27] decision to clean it up and then put it

[44:31] back into service and do a repair later.

[44:34] >> I don't think we want to do that.

[44:35] >> I don't think so either. I think we just

[44:37] need to do the emergency deal and get it

[44:39] done because why go back through it?

[44:41] Yes,

[44:41] >> they just got to block it and don't let

[44:43] any animals in the damn thing in

[44:44] between.

[44:45] >> Yeah, it's closed off.

[44:47] >> When Matt called me, that was all he

[44:49] said is, "Hey, I need you to come up to

[44:51] the tanks. I got something to show you."

[44:52] >> Oh, no.

[44:55] >> Yeah, if you've got it down, there's no

[44:56] reason, like Nick said, to not take care

[45:00] of it right then. We don't want flakes

[45:01] going out in the water and stuff. That

[45:03] would be bad.

[45:05] >> No. Um, so I think we'll move forward

[45:08] then. We appreciate Dons. He's been

[45:12] knowledgeable about these tanks for

[45:14] almost as long as they've been there.

[45:15] >> Don, do you have any idea? Don, do you

[45:18] have any idea how long

[45:22] >> Don, do you have any idea how old them

[45:23] tanks are when they were put in? Cuz I I

[45:25] keep thinking they were there when I

[45:27] grew up.

[45:30] >> Oh,

[45:30] >> okay. Then they were there when I was

[45:32] there. Okay. Growing up.

[45:35] comment that I want to make is you go into these tanks

[45:40] at least particularly these older ones

[45:42] and we've got a lot of evidence for

[45:45] corrosion but I can tell you once the

[45:48] district

[45:49] realizing

[45:52] they

[45:55] look at you see all this corrosion

[45:57] district

[46:00] since they repainted them and used the

[46:02] system we use You know the team 25 years

[46:06] out of it since we painted it the first

[46:09] time. We really have got good service on

[46:12] I got compliment history. They have

[46:14] never hesitated once they recognize the

[46:17] problem those tanks of them and we're

[46:21] going to get a lot of them and I have

[46:23] never in my career seen this type of

[46:28] two. I've seen it between the seen other

[46:32] systems but this particular epoxy. So,

[46:35] this this is a first for me.

[46:37] >> And Don, I I tell you, I've been around

[46:39] them a long time. A lot of that coating.

[46:42] We need to look harder at the people

[46:43] that are doing the work. I I have a

[46:46] feeling they This isn't the first time

[46:48] they've had a problem. I guarantee you

[46:50] >> that way.

[46:50] >> Well, it's frustrating because all the

[46:51] other tanks they did are in good shape.

[46:54] >> Our exteriors are good. The They did the

[46:56] inside of the other the smaller one

[46:58] here, and it's great. It And like Don

[47:01] said, it it's not the whole tank. It's a portion of it. So, there was

[47:05] something that happened.

[47:06] >> Well, it's it's not the company. It's

[47:08] the guys actually not paying attention.

[47:11] So,

[47:11] >> they come and go.

[47:12] >> Workers.

[47:13] >> Yep.

[47:13] >> Yeah.

[47:14] >> Different crews, not

[47:15] >> Yeah.

[47:18] >> I want to take a second. I want to thank

[47:19] Don though for being You've been here my

[47:21] whole time and I want to thank you for

[47:24] everything that you do.

[47:25] >> Absolutely.

[47:27] I've known Don for a few years,

[47:30] >> not Don, but I remember those takes when

[47:33] I was in high school or there.

[47:35] >> Yeah.

[47:35] >> I mean, in the 60s.

[47:37] >> Yeah. Don's been uh involved in a lot of

[47:39] the critical decisions that I think have

[47:42] been great for the district like the

[47:43] secondary water, the reuse, the master

[47:47] planning and rates. Uh been instrumental

[47:50] in helping guide us and done a great

[47:53] job. Hey, I want to thank him for doing

[47:55] such a good job bringing you up through

[47:57] the ranks. Look where we're at now.

[47:59] >> And Trevor.

[48:03] » Yep. We owe him that, too.

[48:08] » Sorry. Sorry.

[48:11] >> He's been a good man, Don.

[48:16] » All right. But uh only other thing I'll

[48:19] highlight here is we did get the lease

[48:20] agreement signed by the Great Salt Lake

[48:23] Commissioner.

[48:24] >> Hi.

[48:25] >> So our canal shares 75% of those we're

[48:29] going to lease to the

[48:31] >> Great Salt Lake. And so

[48:35] » you want permission from the board.

[48:45] Um,

[48:45] >> do you want to come back and be

[48:48] approved?

[48:48] >> Well, I think there's an item on the

[48:51] agenda that could give us a little more

[48:53] flexibility with that depending on the

[48:55] estimated cost.

[48:58] >> We're the board last time asked to raise

[49:01] the limit for the general manager to be

[49:04] authorized up to 100,000. Yeah.

[49:06] >> So, if you think that that those repairs

[49:09] would be below a h 100,000, which I

[49:11] would be hopeful.

[49:14] >> Um I think we could handle it that way

[49:16] if that goes through.

[49:17] >> Yeah, that sounds great.

[49:18] >> So, maybe we address it at the end of

[49:20] the meeting

[49:22] >> uh during the other if that's okay with

[49:24] the board.

[49:24] >> Yeah, let's do that.

[49:25] >> Um and then if you you can decide what

[49:29] you want to do.

[49:29] >> Sure. But that stays within

[49:31] >> But I think that's a good point

[49:33] >> because it stays within the scope of the

[49:34] repair. So, let's let's go that way.

[49:40] » Um, the other things I'll highlight,

[49:43] wastewater operations. Just excited that

[49:46] we're back to

[49:48] putting that reuse water to use. Steve

[49:50] and Dallas have been coordinating. I

[49:54] think your plan is to start at the end

[49:55] of March, 1st of April, right?

[49:57] >> Yeah, that's what we're shooting for.

[49:59] >> So, when will there be water in

[50:00] secondary?

[50:01] >> Probably April 1st at the latest. Yeah,

[50:04] we're shooting for April 15th actually

[50:06] be fully operational, but there'll be

[50:08] water before that so people will start

[50:10] seeing it might have questions, but we

[50:12] want to do some aggressive flushing.

[50:14] >> Okay, I'll tell them.

[50:16] >> I'll tell them maybe. But not going to

[50:18] guarantee anything.

[50:18] >> Tell them to wait till April 15th to use

[50:22] that.

[50:22] >> We'll be flushing ahead of that.

[50:25] >> Okay.

[50:25] >> Uhoh.

[50:28] >> Should be better than last year.

[50:29] >> Yeah, it'll be a lot better.

[50:30] >> Rugging out all them fish. No, there's

[50:32] no fish. At least At least not in the

[50:35] reservoir, huh?

[50:36] >> Yeah.

[50:36] >> No.

[50:38] >> Um Dallas has been working on bids for

[50:42] contracting out the sledge hauling um

[50:44] when ET Technologies closes and moves. I

[50:49] think he's got some promising numbers so

[50:52] far. He'll continue to evaluate that,

[50:54] but it looks like a potentially good

[50:58] option to do the contracted hauling.

[51:00] When does it have to start? When will

[51:02] they actually be because I heard they're

[51:04] already doing stuff out at the site?

[51:06] >> Yeah, they said they're planning a soft

[51:08] startup date of January 1, 27.

[51:11] >> 27. Okay.

[51:16] And then on the office, uh, LIL

[51:19] completed a drinking water consumer fee

[51:22] incentive verification survey. That's

[51:25] will be the basis for that new drinking

[51:27] water fee calculation. that we have to

[51:30] pass along to the customer.

[51:32] >> Yeah.

[51:33] >> Um but again, if you remember, they've

[51:36] cut down how much that will be and they

[51:38] pushed it back. So

[51:40] >> So it will now be 2028.

[51:42] >> 2028 fiscal year.

[51:44] >> Well, I think that's when the fee will

[51:45] be due by us. So if that's

[51:49] start collecting,

[51:50] >> when will we know what number?

[51:52] >> Are they going to wait the last minute?

[51:54] >> I hope not.

[51:55] >> It will be based on usage, right?

[51:57] >> Yeah. The survey didn't really ask a

[52:00] whole lot of questions.

[52:01] >> It's based on us. Will it go in tiers or

[52:03] will

[52:05] >> it's just a

[52:05] >> right now it's not planned to.

[52:07] >> Yeah. It's just how much

[52:09] >> flat fee on usage.

[52:11] >> It will be up to us to decide how we

[52:13] pass that along.

[52:14] >> Okay. But I'm just wondering they will

[52:16] give you a number that they have to have

[52:19] >> and then you guys have to fit it in to

[52:21] see how it fits in the system,

[52:22] >> right?

[52:23] >> When will we know that? Will we know

[52:25] before 2028? Hopefully.

[52:28] >> Yes.

[52:28] >> Okay.

[52:29] >> We should know. They'll use I think they

[52:31] said they were using 2025's

[52:34] data. So, we actually know I think now

[52:36] we could get an idea.

[52:38] >> Okay.

[52:40] >> For that 2028 calculation.

[52:43] >> All right.

[52:44] And then

[52:46] as far as coord communication, just a

[52:49] heads up, I met with Jordan Valley,

[52:52] their GM and Granger hunters, and that

[52:57] Jordan Valley has that water budget

[52:59] policy uh for

[53:02] annexation,

[53:04] new annexations, they have to meet a

[53:07] certain water budget per acre or they

[53:10] have to bring in their own water.

[53:12] >> Oh, wow.

[53:12] >> Okay. that's currently in place for

[53:15] Jordan Valley.

[53:17] So, they're moving that internal to

[53:20] within their district now as well. And

[53:24] so, they're talking with the districts

[53:27] on how that will be implemented, but it

[53:29] sounds like it would be a similar

[53:32] budget.

[53:34] Um, and they would ask

[53:36] >> the drinking water budget.

[53:37] >> Well, similar budgetary per acre amount.

[53:42] They're just moving that inland now into

[53:44] their existing district. So any

[53:46] development within the district will be

[53:49] when they pass this will be subject to

[53:51] that budget.

[53:52] >> Right.

[53:53] >> So they'll have to bring water if they

[53:56] want service from Jordan Valley.

[53:58] >> Are we involved in that?

[54:00] >> We are since we contract with Jordan

[54:02] Valley.

[54:02] >> Right.

[54:04] >> And so it would affect us if we needed

[54:06] to go to Jordan Valley for more water.

[54:08] We need to go for more.

[54:09] >> But if we don't, we're okay.

[54:11] >> Okay. And right now,

[54:13] >> right now it affects us less and it

[54:16] affects Jordan or Granger Hunter less.

[54:18] So they met with us together because it

[54:21] will affect us the least out of all of

[54:23] the agencies because we supply the most

[54:26] of our water. But I think it's important

[54:27] for the board to be aware that the

[54:30] industry is moving that direction.

[54:32] >> Okay. and we will likely need to be

[54:35] aligning

[54:37] um our budget policy in some time in the

[54:40] future. So, okay.

[54:44] And then we've got the golf course here

[54:47] today. Um there's an agenda item uh for

[54:53] the board to consider

[54:55] their request. It is towards the end of

[54:58] the

[54:59] >> agenda. I want to move out of I want to

[55:01] move out of out of uh

[55:05] out of the direct what do I want to call

[55:07] that? I I want to move I want to go move

[55:09] off the agenda and tend to the golf

[55:11] course stuff right now and then go back.

[55:13] >> I that's all with my reports.

[55:15] >> Is the council okay? I mean the council

[55:17] is the trustees okay with that?

[55:19] >> Okay, let's move over to the golf course

[55:24] and that way they don't have to sit here

[55:25] and listen to everything we have going.

[55:27] Do you guys want to come up?

[55:36] So that is under administrative

[55:39] item two I believe.

[55:41] >> Thank you Leo.

[55:43] >> How are you doing?

[55:48] » First off, this lady here that's in

[55:51] front of us today, her her boy works for

[55:54] us, Gavin Henshaw.

[55:55] >> Oh no.

[55:57] >> So

[56:01] and

[56:01] >> we're very very very fortunate to have

[56:03] Gavin.

[56:03] >> So all of these problems you can blame

[56:05] her.

[56:07] >> So Mr. Chairman, yes,

[56:10] >> I'll introduce them and then Trevor

[56:13] might provide a little context and then

[56:16] we'll if the golf course would like to

[56:19] uh make any comments. But as you know,

[56:23] they have used a combination of our

[56:26] drinking water and then water from

[56:30] Kennott to water the golf course over

[56:33] the years. and they have formally

[56:37] approached Magna Water and the board to

[56:41] consider some

[56:44] combination of transferring over that

[56:48] water

[56:50] uh to Magna Water uh and the reuse

[56:54] system now that we have. And so

[56:58] the cleanest option is the first one

[57:02] which is what they use to water their

[57:05] drinking water greens, right? I mean

[57:08] their greens

[57:10] >> with drinking water. Um we feel like

[57:13] that is a pretty good option and we

[57:16] think we can make that work fairly

[57:18] easily. the other the rest of the golf

[57:21] course that they water with the kick hot

[57:23] water. That's quite a bit of volume,

[57:26] >> right? And it could be potentially some

[57:31] substantial

[57:32] capital costs. Um the golf course was

[57:36] going to look into that to see what they

[57:38] can do with their system and maybe

[57:39] they'll be able to give us an update,

[57:41] but they've requested us to consider

[57:44] those two options.

[57:46] um and any participation

[57:49] that Magna Water District can consider

[57:52] to help offset or delay cost uh to the

[57:58] golf course, whether that's payback,

[58:02] whether that's um donation of piping

[58:06] materials, they have asked requested

[58:08] that. Um and so I'll let Trevor,

[58:12] anything else that you wanted to add to

[58:14] that? Um just

[58:17] the option one connection. We did kind

[58:20] of a a cost estimate of what that would

[58:23] take and kind of looked a little bit

[58:26] more and revised that this week. Um

[58:29] roughly I mean between we'll say 35,000

[58:33] to 50,000 to extend the pipe. Um, they

[58:38] have a 4-in meter that they use for the

[58:41] outdoor watering and then they have a 1

[58:43] in that goes to the clubhouse. That 1 in

[58:46] would need to be uh basically a new

[58:48] connection for that if they were to go

[58:50] this route. Um, and so we've taken all

[58:53] that into account. We kind of have a

[58:54] really good grasp of what's required.

[58:57] Um, but that's kind of the cost range

[58:59] for that.

[59:01] >> Okay. And they don't need to change the

[59:03] 4 inch. They can live with them. I I we

[59:06] have an option to you to put in uh what

[59:09] is our standard 4-in vault. Um but I

[59:13] don't believe that would be required to

[59:16] make the connection to change it from

[59:18] drinking water to secondary.

[59:20] >> How big is the meter now that furnishes

[59:22] it?

[59:23] >> A 4 inch.

[59:24] >> A 4 in.

[59:25] >> And that wouldn't have to be increased

[59:27] on secondary water to

[59:29] >> not for the greens.

[59:30] >> Okay.

[59:31] So is that taken and bringing the line

[59:34] over so it lines up and then like we

[59:36] talked that day at the golf course.

[59:38] >> Correct.

[59:39] So a portion of that work benefits Magna

[59:42] Water and I think something

[59:44] >> I think that's something one of the

[59:46] reason that the board could consider is

[59:48] that the main in the road in front it's

[59:52] in 2600 South

[59:54] >> right

[59:54] >> the bulk of the cost um

[59:57] >> because we're going to eventually do it

[59:58] anyhow right

[59:59] >> it will be need to be done at some point

[1:00:02] um so that's that's something for the

[1:00:04] board to consider um we do usually put

[1:00:08] the onus on development when it is in

[1:00:11] this situation. They usually have to

[1:00:13] front that cost if they want the water.

[1:00:16] But but there are factors where like I

[1:00:18] said, we benefit

[1:00:20] uh some from that. So that's something

[1:00:23] that you can consider. Um the second

[1:00:26] option, we're still getting information.

[1:00:30] I don't know if you've got enough.

[1:00:31] >> We've done a lot of analysis. I don't

[1:00:33] know that right here is the time and I don't have the figures but it they

[1:00:39] it is a lot of water. It could be an

[1:00:41] average of a,000 to 1,800 gallons a

[1:00:45] minute um depending on when they're

[1:00:47] using zones and which zones and how

[1:00:49] many. Um so it is a significant amount

[1:00:53] of water and so the infrastructure that

[1:00:56] Clint mentioned is pretty significant.

[1:00:58] It's an 8 to 10 inch pipe. It's a large

[1:01:01] meter. Um, so I think that one still

[1:01:05] needs to be fleshed out a little bit

[1:01:08] more and the and there's an impact that

[1:01:10] has never been on our system that would

[1:01:14] then be be there

[1:01:15] >> that needs to be evaluated

[1:01:17] >> the impact of so are we incomplete at

[1:01:20] this point to make

[1:01:21] >> the option number two I don't think

[1:01:23] we're at a point where we can make a

[1:01:25] decision that that's

[1:01:26] >> so out of the two when you're looking at

[1:01:27] them both would you recommend one?

[1:01:29] >> I would. Yep. 100%.

[1:01:31] >> I think the number one benefits both the

[1:01:34] golf course and NS long term.

[1:01:37] >> Um would you guys like to add anything?

[1:01:40] >> Yeah, I agree with that too. We want to

[1:01:43] move forward number one.

[1:01:44] >> Okay.

[1:01:44] >> Like I'd love to have that done this

[1:01:46] year.

[1:01:47] >> Okay.

[1:01:48] >> Both of us. Um

[1:01:50] >> aside from that option number two, this

[1:01:53] kind of goes I mean it's kind of off the

[1:01:55] script, but we'd like to approach you

[1:01:58] guys for

[1:01:59] We're reaching our 100 year anniversary

[1:02:01] this year and the coffee club is

[1:02:05] probably the biggest green space in that

[1:02:08] >> right

[1:02:09] >> 70 plus acres of green space open.

[1:02:13] I would like some help

[1:02:16] maybe using the 100 year anniversary as

[1:02:18] a starting point to reach out to other

[1:02:24] entities for grant assistance.

[1:02:28] the copper more sustainable when you're

[1:02:30] talking about the amount of water we use

[1:02:32] on the fairways.

[1:02:34] The I don't know how old that system is.

[1:02:37] It's not efficient and I'd like to start

[1:02:42] >> and you could like do sections at a

[1:02:44] time, right?

[1:02:46] >> Absolutely. Absolutely. And you know if

[1:02:51] using the macar is a great option there

[1:02:54] with you guys to discover a better

[1:02:56] option

[1:02:57] >> something that's more

[1:03:00] help.

[1:03:03] » Well, you know what? I'm going I'm going

[1:03:04] to just make a comment or two. I if the

[1:03:08] number one option is feasible for them

[1:03:11] and ourselves, I move that we we go

[1:03:14] ahead, and go with option one and help these guys get this put in. And

[1:03:23] >> what's the cost for option one? It's

[1:03:25] right here between 20 uh between 35 and

[1:03:29] $50,000.

[1:03:30] >> Okay.

[1:03:31] >> And that will like Clint said that will

[1:03:32] actually benefit us too.

[1:03:34] >> Where will that come from?

[1:03:36] >> It ties

[1:03:37] >> I I'm sorry. Did you make

[1:03:38] >> We're talking about the option one where

[1:03:40] it comes off 2600.

[1:03:42] >> Oh, where did the where did the amount

[1:03:44] come from?

[1:03:44] >> What's the cost and who's going to pay

[1:03:46] for it?

[1:03:47] >> We are Well, there would be options for

[1:03:50] the board to consider. could be um any

[1:03:54] portion of that we could most likely do

[1:03:57] that inhouse.

[1:03:59] >> Um

[1:03:59] >> as far as the extension

[1:04:02] >> foot extension

[1:04:03] >> so that estimate is

[1:04:05] >> it's the 180

[1:04:08] >> that estimate is include is assuming a

[1:04:10] contractor came and did that. Right.

[1:04:12] >> Correct.

[1:04:13] >> So there could be some savings in terms

[1:04:15] of labor. So, you're probably looking at

[1:04:17] half on the labor, right?

[1:04:19] >> That could be passed on or could not be

[1:04:21] for the board to consider. The other

[1:04:24] option is they you could do a payback

[1:04:28] agreement where the district would front

[1:04:31] the money um and do the work, get it

[1:04:34] installed, and the copper cup could pay

[1:04:37] it back over time potentially with the

[1:04:39] savings. Um, so there will be savings

[1:04:42] when they use reuse water versus

[1:04:45] drinking water. You could say, "Hey, if

[1:04:47] you would pay what you've been paying

[1:04:50] until that's paid back, that's an option

[1:04:52] for the

[1:04:53] >> They haven't agreed to that yet."

[1:04:54] >> They haven't. Um,

[1:04:55] >> that needs to be done before we can

[1:04:57] approve.

[1:04:57] >> But the question I have on that though

[1:04:59] is if it's going to benefit us, I mean,

[1:05:02] you got to you got to stop and take that

[1:05:03] in consideration. It's not just benefit

[1:05:05] the golf course, it's benefiting us. Am

[1:05:06] I right or am I wrong?

[1:05:08] >> Yes. The portion of the upsize in the

[1:05:10] road benefits us

[1:05:11] >> the 180 ft.

[1:05:12] >> Yeah.

[1:05:12] And is that 35,000 the extension?

[1:05:16] >> No, that's a portion of

[1:05:18] >> very portion of the cost because that

[1:05:20] includes Yes. that extension of that

[1:05:22] line. There's blowoff on the end.

[1:05:24] There's the connection to the meter

[1:05:26] vault. There's the 1 in meter.

[1:05:29] >> So, we didn't have a we didn't actually

[1:05:31] have a motion uh on this. We wanted it

[1:05:36] to beformational for the board to give

[1:05:39] us direction. If you wanted more

[1:05:41] information, if you wanted us to come

[1:05:44] back with more details on one thing or

[1:05:46] the other, um, that was kind of the

[1:05:48] intent here. Um,

[1:05:50] >> so the only thing we'll motion on today

[1:05:52] is to go ahead with option one, but they

[1:05:55] still need to approve whatever you come

[1:05:58] up with and so that we can then

[1:06:00] >> So do we know what do we know when you

[1:06:03] say it benefits us in so what's the

[1:06:07] cost?

[1:06:07] >> That's something we could come back

[1:06:09] with.

[1:06:10] >> Good.

[1:06:12] >> When can you have all this stuff done so

[1:06:14] we can have it back to us? Um, I think

[1:06:16] the intent was you wanted something in

[1:06:18] place before the start of your

[1:06:20] irrigation.

[1:06:21] >> Correct.

[1:06:21] >> When when do you guys plan?

[1:06:23] >> May 1st.

[1:06:24] So, we could have it in the

[1:06:26] April meeting.

[1:06:27] >> Okay.

[1:06:27] >> Um, and we would get close. I think

[1:06:31] Steve, as long as your crews could have

[1:06:33] that done

[1:06:35] >> if that's what it's looking like we're

[1:06:36] going to go to, then

[1:06:37] >> we'll How long will it take to do that,

[1:06:40] Steve?

[1:06:42] Um, I'd probably plan a couple weeks.

[1:06:46] >> Okay. Not over three weeks. That's only

[1:06:49] 180 ft.

[1:06:51] >> So, I think it's doable.

[1:06:53] >> I say a couple weeks because you never

[1:06:55] know what's going to happen. We might be

[1:06:56] pulled off for sure emergency.

[1:06:59] >> Sure.

[1:07:02] But it's like I said, we need all this

[1:07:05] put down and everybody agrees on what

[1:07:07] it's going to cost and who's going to

[1:07:08] accept.

[1:07:09] >> You may get me back

[1:07:10] >> certain things.

[1:07:13] >> Okay, then I got it wrong because I

[1:07:14] thought we were going to put I thought

[1:07:15] we were going to run this ourselves.

[1:07:18] >> Well, that's an option for sure.

[1:07:19] >> I thought that's what we talked about. I

[1:07:21] thought we was going to run it ourselves

[1:07:23] and then they'll be liable for the rest

[1:07:25] of the stuff. But I thought we my

[1:07:27] agreement was is I thought we were going

[1:07:29] to run it over there. We were going to

[1:07:31] we talked about that that we were going

[1:07:32] to do that and now it's all going to

[1:07:34] come with this cost and this cost and

[1:07:36] this cost. So I'm I'm kind of confused

[1:07:37] about it.

[1:07:38] >> Well, I think we talked we could get to

[1:07:40] that point, but I think we talked about

[1:07:42] the first step was they would come back

[1:07:44] and formally

[1:07:46] tell us what they wanted,

[1:07:47] >> right?

[1:07:48] >> And there

[1:07:48] >> they want they want one

[1:07:50] >> and they want both options,

[1:07:52] >> right?

[1:07:55] I mean obviously we wanted to benefit

[1:07:57] both of us and I think both options

[1:07:59] would

[1:07:59] >> okay

[1:08:00] >> we haven't flipped over both options up

[1:08:04] so far you know the questions you've

[1:08:07] been asking I haven't

[1:08:10] >> at all I I've given you guys what we pay

[1:08:15] Utah power to run our currently

[1:08:18] >> I think it benefits

[1:08:20] magma magma water to keep the resour

[1:08:24] coming to Utah power resources meaning

[1:08:29] >> and we're willing to you know we're

[1:08:32] willing to pay that but I don't know how

[1:08:36] >> we don't know

[1:08:38] >> so do you guys have a count on how many

[1:08:40] heads you've got and all that kind of

[1:08:42] stuff

[1:08:43] >> so when can you give that to

[1:08:45] >> we we have that and we we've started

[1:08:47] doing it doing an analysis and that's

[1:08:50] where I mentioned that well I mean when

[1:08:52] they're in their peak season, it could

[1:08:54] be 1,800 gallons a minute that they're

[1:08:56] watering.

[1:08:57] >> So, is that is that what we base it on

[1:08:59] for option two to come up with a number?

[1:09:01] >> Correct. But that that full analysis

[1:09:04] isn't done. The impact on our system,

[1:09:06] what that cost might be, what what they

[1:09:08] would pay monthly, we haven't got to

[1:09:10] that point.

[1:09:11] >> It's just like we find on an airline.

[1:09:13] You walk into a place and you hear air

[1:09:15] leaking all over what they pay for the

[1:09:17] compressor cost. I have a feeling you

[1:09:19] guys got a lot more leaks than you think

[1:09:20] you do under that ground.

[1:09:21] >> I agree with you. And that's and that's

[1:09:24] where I would reach back out

[1:09:28] and help us. We're operators, right?

[1:09:30] We're both operators of this property.

[1:09:33] We don't

[1:09:34] >> right.

[1:09:34] >> I can't for

[1:09:36] >> right

[1:09:38] >> there are many grants that suit our

[1:09:39] needs as far as you know infrastructure

[1:09:43] and water consery. There there grants

[1:09:46] out there that we look at.

[1:09:50] >> Could a cut apply for the grant? cop can

[1:09:53] >> since they're the property owner.

[1:09:55] >> It's they're the property owner you can

[1:09:57] because

[1:09:59] that's

[1:10:00] >> so I got a question on that Nathan. So

[1:10:03] under that deal with them the grant

[1:10:05] there's a bunch of grants I understand

[1:10:06] what it is I thing we dealt up here with

[1:10:09] this project that we're working on right

[1:10:11] now is

[1:10:14] how you know cuz we're providing the

[1:10:16] water right we're going to we were going

[1:10:18] to provide the water and and like Jeff

[1:10:20] said there's a lot of leakage he's

[1:10:21] assuming there's a a bunch of leakage

[1:10:25] how since Kakott owns the land how could

[1:10:29] they get how could how could we put any

[1:10:32] pressure on Kakott

[1:10:33] to have them apply for these grants

[1:10:36] because at the end of the day, Kennot

[1:10:38] owns the land, right?

[1:10:39] >> Yeah. And so there's a couple things to

[1:10:40] keep in mind as and as I understand what

[1:10:44] you're saying is what you're asking is

[1:10:46] can the district or the city also put in

[1:10:49] for grants because the city as the

[1:10:51] district and the city as government

[1:10:52] entities are going to be

[1:10:53] >> they got a grant coming to us from the

[1:10:56] city coming up.

[1:10:57] >> Yeah, but that's that's something the

[1:10:58] city's providing.

[1:10:59] >> Right. Right. So Riotinto as the owner

[1:11:01] could apply for those grant programs

[1:11:03] that Riotinto as a private for-profit

[1:11:05] company is eligible to apply for, but a

[1:11:09] usually there's public entities have

[1:11:12] other programs that are in addition or

[1:11:14] separate to from what Riotinto could

[1:11:16] apply for. So, it's not uncommon, this

[1:11:19] is an odd situation, but for entities

[1:11:22] that provide some public service to a

[1:11:23] community that aren't eligible for a

[1:11:25] grant to partner with the the entity

[1:11:27] that is, which would be the district or

[1:11:29] the city, to then have that entity apply

[1:11:32] for the grant and pass it through to to

[1:11:35] them. I assume you're a nonprofit

[1:11:37] organization, right?

[1:11:38] >> So, there's and that happens relatively

[1:11:42] frequently. And so, yes, you could go

[1:11:44] and work with Riotinto, but I think what

[1:11:46] maybe makes the most sense is if you're

[1:11:48] aware of grant programs that you're

[1:11:50] interested in, give us a list because

[1:11:52] some of those are things that Riointo

[1:11:54] may be able to apply for that we can't.

[1:11:56] But I think more than likely,

[1:11:57] >> most of those are going to be things

[1:11:58] that we could apply for that the city

[1:12:00] could apply for that Riointo can't. And

[1:12:02] so my thought is is let's see what's out

[1:12:04] there and then maybe pass it over.

[1:12:06] >> Yeah. Or you could sit down with Rio

[1:12:08] Tinto and say, "Let's coordinate on

[1:12:09] this.

[1:12:10] >> What do we do? What's best for the Gulf

[1:12:12] District? It looks like Riotinto.

[1:12:13] There's some that you might be able to

[1:12:14] apply through and pass to them and it

[1:12:16] looks like there's some that we can. But

[1:12:18] my guess is, and correct me if I'm

[1:12:20] wrong. Most of what's going to be

[1:12:22] available are things that you can apply

[1:12:23] for that Rio Tinto can. Because a lot of

[1:12:25] times with grant money, they're going to

[1:12:26] be like, okay, a government entity gets

[1:12:28] grant money. One of the richest

[1:12:30] corporations in the world that has mines

[1:12:31] all over the place. Why are we giving

[1:12:33] public money to them?

[1:12:35] And I think one of the things that could

[1:12:38] tie that together, which is why option

[1:12:41] two might be a little more complicated,

[1:12:43] is there may be some partnership we can

[1:12:46] make with Kakott over that pump station

[1:12:49] itself. And so that's something that

[1:12:51] we're pursuing as well. Um I think that

[1:12:54] could be a win-winwin. Um so

[1:12:58] >> because it's between the owner of the

[1:12:59] property and the water company, right,

[1:13:01] that could be really valuable.

[1:13:02] >> Yeah. and then and then that could be an

[1:13:05] asset to the district that we could then

[1:13:07] in turn pass on uh the water and manage

[1:13:11] that potentially.

[1:13:12] >> That's two concerns I have with the golf

[1:13:14] course. Number one, your quality of your

[1:13:16] grass and your water leaks. Those are

[1:13:18] the two biggest things. You really need

[1:13:21] to look at that grass and if you're

[1:13:23] using more water than you should be. I

[1:13:25] think there's a lot of help out there.

[1:13:27] Somebody needs to consider what grass

[1:13:30] you have, what how much water it takes

[1:13:32] and that's on and above besides all the

[1:13:34] water leaks you have under the ground.

[1:13:36] >> So,

[1:13:37] >> well, that's what I'm saying. So, where

[1:13:38] do we move from here? Do we have them

[1:13:41] get a list?

[1:13:41] >> Yeah. What I would recommend, and this

[1:13:43] is not my call, but I would recommend

[1:13:45] sounds like you've done some homework on

[1:13:46] this, right? Provide I guess Clint or

[1:13:50] whoever you guys designate a list of

[1:13:52] what that stuff is so we can take a look

[1:13:53] at it and see what makes sense. Now, I

[1:13:56] will be clear. There are going to be

[1:13:57] requirements. We'll need to have some

[1:13:59] sort of a pass through contract. May

[1:14:01] want to talk with Seth Oson with local

[1:14:03] government's uh section of the state

[1:14:05] auditors because there are some

[1:14:06] reporting requirements. So, for

[1:14:07] instance, anything over $25,000 that you

[1:14:09] receive in public funds, whether it's

[1:14:11] from us, the state or uh typically in

[1:14:13] those different with federal government

[1:14:15] grants too, there's there's reporting

[1:14:17] there going to be mainly reporting

[1:14:19] requirements on your ends, but if it's a

[1:14:21] federal grant, potentially reporting

[1:14:22] requirements on ours. Now that be said,

[1:14:25] that being said, um there may be we may

[1:14:29] need to work with Riotinto on this too

[1:14:31] if with the ownership issue. It's just

[1:14:33] each grant program is going to have its

[1:14:35] own separate requirements and its own

[1:14:36] separate eligibility criteria.

[1:14:39] >> So what do we want to sit down? I mean

[1:14:41] once he recognized what grants do we

[1:14:44] want to sit down I mean bring them

[1:14:45] through us or do we want to kind of sit

[1:14:47] down and have a meeting with us and

[1:14:49] kakott and just

[1:14:50] >> yeah I would I would suggest that we see

[1:14:52] what's out there first because you may

[1:14:53] look at it and there may not be anything

[1:14:55] that Riotinto can apply for.

[1:14:56] >> Okay.

[1:14:57] >> Or it may be that these are things that we can do but Riotinto needs to

[1:15:01] sign off on it as the owner. So I think

[1:15:03] it's premature to schedule anything with

[1:15:05] Riotinto until we've seen

[1:15:07] >> Okay. No, I was just asking how that

[1:15:08] works. So,

[1:15:09] >> and and I agree with you, Mick, as far

[1:15:11] as that 180 foot extension down the main

[1:15:15] street, which is in the city. Um, I

[1:15:18] don't have a problem with that, but I

[1:15:20] think we need to nail down the cost.

[1:15:22] >> I I I can agree. I agree with that.

[1:15:25] >> So, if what I'm hearing is we would come

[1:15:27] back to the board with a next month with

[1:15:30] a final cost. That would be the B what

[1:15:34] Magna Water's participating in and what

[1:15:37] we're providing. and then the cost that

[1:15:39] they would need to be expected to pay

[1:15:42] back. Is that Yeah. Is that a fair

[1:15:44] >> That's what I was hoping because I don't

[1:15:46] have a problem. Anything that goes in

[1:15:47] the street, I don't I don't think we

[1:15:50] necessarily need to push them on because

[1:15:51] they're an existing customer, not that

[1:15:53] it's a new facility where we, you know,

[1:15:56] push that on as part of that. So,

[1:15:59] >> how does that sound to the board? I I'm

[1:16:01] a little different about that, but my

[1:16:03] different is is if we're going to put

[1:16:05] that if we got to run that line over,

[1:16:07] why let's just put it in?

[1:16:10] >> Well, I think we are saying we would put

[1:16:12] it in.

[1:16:12] >> We would put it in and then

[1:16:13] >> but then the 4 in to their

[1:16:15] >> Oh, no, no, no. I understand that part.

[1:16:16] Okay.

[1:16:16] >> That would be what they would be

[1:16:18] responsible to pay back. Is that seem

[1:16:20] reasonable? I think that's that's

[1:16:22] >> and we could just have them pay back

[1:16:24] materials

[1:16:26] for that portion or we could have them

[1:16:29] pay back labor and materials since if

[1:16:31] we're putting that in.

[1:16:32] >> So

[1:16:33] >> bring it bring it back to board and then

[1:16:34] we can make a decision on that.

[1:16:36] >> We'll we'll make sure that those options

[1:16:37] are all available in that cost

[1:16:40] >> so that you could determine what com

[1:16:43] combination works. Does that sound okay?

[1:16:47] >> Yeah. I don't want to hold that up at

[1:16:48] all.

[1:16:48] >> Does that work with the golf course?

[1:16:54] I really want to use this as a starting

[1:16:55] point to build a partnership

[1:16:58] >> right

[1:16:58] >> with the board with water.

[1:17:03] I keep talking about 100 years. It's

[1:17:04] important it's important to

[1:17:11] basis or starting pointy

[1:17:14] project that we can apply for to ensure

[1:17:16] that that stays down there.

[1:17:21] » Well, like I said, this is how I feel.

[1:17:23] I'm going to speak as the chair of the

[1:17:25] board. I'm going speak as the mayor. Um

[1:17:27] I don't want to see that golf course go

[1:17:29] away. So, whatever we can do to help

[1:17:30] sustain that golf course, if we lose the

[1:17:33] golf course, you might as well say kiss

[1:17:34] good Magna goodbye because that's all we

[1:17:37] have out here that's ever stayed here.

[1:17:40] And we'll work, you guys have worked

[1:17:41] very hard to keep that. You run off a

[1:17:43] shoestring

[1:17:45] and u you know, so whatever I could do

[1:17:48] at my end, I'm willing to you know,

[1:17:52] again, I have people I answer to, too.

[1:17:54] So,

[1:17:56] >> but I want to see the golf course stay

[1:17:57] too on that.

[1:18:00] >> So, I I think we

[1:18:01] >> wants to talk.

[1:18:02] >> I think we can make a motion to move

[1:18:04] ahead on option one if we need to.

[1:18:07] >> I I agree.

[1:18:08] >> But we also need to con continue with

[1:18:11] option two and get the rest of the data

[1:18:13] from the golf course

[1:18:14] >> on option two because we have incomplete

[1:18:16] data.

[1:18:17] >> Right. I think we're I think we're

[1:18:19] getting there on that. We just have the

[1:18:22] analysis. It's so much more volume.

[1:18:24] Yeah,

[1:18:25] >> that it changes what we can do,

[1:18:29] >> how we would approach that. Okay.

[1:18:31] >> So, that's what's going to take a little

[1:18:32] bit of time.

[1:18:33] >> Well, if it is 1,800, that would make a

[1:18:36] big difference over a,000. That's almost

[1:18:38] double.

[1:18:39] >> Yeah.

[1:18:40] >> So, I don't know if they I don't know if

[1:18:43] they have anything that

[1:18:44] >> you can run across the ground that would

[1:18:46] determine if there's a leak or something

[1:18:48] in the line. turn.

[1:18:49] >> I mean, all I know is you can shut the

[1:18:51] valve off and see how long it takes and

[1:18:53] it would probably like that.

[1:18:55] >> Yeah.

[1:18:58] >> Sound

[1:19:00] >> It's It's a lot of water. There's

[1:19:02] probably some leaks. I mean, you know,

[1:19:04] you've got trees, it's mature, their

[1:19:06] pipes been there a long time.

[1:19:08] >> We just know in this ground, it doesn't

[1:19:10] go to the surface.

[1:19:11] >> A water leak doesn't go to the surface.

[1:19:13] It goes in the ground.

[1:19:15] >> Yeah. It goes down into that pipe right

[1:19:17] where they need to get that all piped

[1:19:19] in.

[1:19:22] >> Okay, that is that's it.

[1:19:24] >> Thank you you guys. Appreciate you.

[1:19:26] >> Can I ask a question?

[1:19:27] >> What is that?

[1:19:28] >> This is Canox's property or whoever. If

[1:19:31] it's a major improvement for their

[1:19:32] personal property, wouldn't they be

[1:19:34] interested in paying money to have

[1:19:37] improved if it's an upgrade for their

[1:19:39] property?

[1:19:40] >> You know what? You would you would think

[1:19:42] so, but unfortunately it doesn't work

[1:19:44] that way. and we'll I'll give you detail

[1:19:46] down the road. So,

[1:19:48] >> they're they're really tight right now.

[1:19:50] They're being very cautious what they

[1:19:51] spend.

[1:19:57] » I know. I I I Hey, I understand that.

[1:20:00] >> They won't talk about that.

[1:20:03] >> Thank you,

[1:20:03] >> Mr. Chair. We have a motion on the floor

[1:20:05] that

[1:20:06] >> to continue option one. So, we just

[1:20:08] >> the motion on the floor, option one. We

[1:20:11] need a second on it.

[1:20:13] >> Oh, sorry. Been motion second. All in

[1:20:15] favor?

[1:20:16] >> I

[1:20:16] >> thank you.

[1:20:28] » Okay, let's move on to engineering.

[1:20:31] >> Okay,

[1:20:32] >> let's move back to our regular bean. I

[1:20:34] mean back to our on our agenda.

[1:20:37] >> Thanks, chair and board. Um the

[1:20:39] engineering report. Things to note. Um

[1:20:43] the Influent pump station project uh

[1:20:46] moving along well. The pumps, screw

[1:20:48] pumps are in there. They're working on

[1:20:51] some power things and then we'll be able

[1:20:52] to grout those channels and we'll see

[1:20:54] those spin. That'll be really really

[1:20:57] great. Um they installed some large

[1:21:00] manholes continuing to put in some of

[1:21:02] that piping and the grit is moving along

[1:21:05] well. Also a lot of electrical and

[1:21:08] mechanical within the building. and then

[1:21:10] also working on one of the grit

[1:21:14] separators and the piping over to the

[1:21:16] new grit building.

[1:21:18] Um Hanes well number eight, we have that

[1:21:22] out to bid right now. Um that and that

[1:21:25] is strictly the drilling of that well.

[1:21:29] Um the building, we're still working

[1:21:32] with the EPA and that grant funding. Um,

[1:21:36] and that'll be used solely for the

[1:21:38] building, uh, the pump station itself.

[1:21:40] So, we moved forward on the drilling of

[1:21:42] that. The bids will be due on the 23rd.

[1:21:44] We had a pre-construction meeting which

[1:21:46] went really well or a pre-bid meeting,

[1:21:48] sorry. Uh, went really well. There's

[1:21:51] seems to be quite a bit of interest.

[1:21:53] There's, I think, eight contractors that

[1:21:56] have requested plans and specs and so

[1:21:59] looking forward to to that bid opening.

[1:22:03] um Westside Collection Project 1B. Um

[1:22:06] the fiber optic conflict, we've got a

[1:22:09] final design on that. Um we're turning

[1:22:12] that over to BD Bush, who was a

[1:22:14] contractor on that project to get us a

[1:22:16] cost

[1:22:18] >> to

[1:22:19] >> BD Bush.

[1:22:20] >> Oh, never heard.

[1:22:22] >> They did the the collection piping

[1:22:25] install. They have a separate bore

[1:22:26] contractor, but they'll there'll be a

[1:22:28] separate one for this also because it

[1:22:30] has to be under UDOT's uh spec and one

[1:22:33] of their contractor preferred

[1:22:36] contractors. So, we'll have a number on

[1:22:38] that I I believe by next month.

[1:22:42] Um,

[1:22:44] we change house. We do have 90% plans

[1:22:48] that we'll start reviewing and we'll share some of that information

[1:22:51] with you.

[1:22:53] um zone 3 reservoir. Um there's a lot of

[1:22:58] groundwater up there. Um didn't see a

[1:23:01] lot in the geotechnical, but we're

[1:23:03] seeing quite a few little bubble up

[1:23:06] >> pit springs

[1:23:07] >> areas. And so we've been chasing that a

[1:23:10] lot, working a lot on on the drain

[1:23:12] piping um to dry that up. Uh very

[1:23:16] important for the constructibility and

[1:23:18] longterm on that. Um they've they've

[1:23:20] installed some of the 16inch pipe and

[1:23:23] that was going well. Also, uh lead and

[1:23:26] copper, that project is underway.

[1:23:29] They're starting on 9100 South. Um

[1:23:33] the they did some saw cutting and

[1:23:35] investigation yesterday and today, and

[1:23:37] they'll start replacing service lines on

[1:23:40] our side um starting next week, Monday.

[1:23:44] Um we've had a lot of good interaction

[1:23:47] with the public. They seem to be

[1:23:49] receptive of allowing us to replace

[1:23:51] their lines. I think we have a couple

[1:23:53] that have denied it, which is okay.

[1:23:57] >> Really? I can't believe that. It's

[1:23:58] weird. Why wouldn't you want your line

[1:23:59] changed out for nothing

[1:24:01] >> for yard displays?

[1:24:03] >> Yeah.

[1:24:04] >> One one of them has a lot of trees. He

[1:24:07] really loves his yard and he doesn't

[1:24:08] want anyone touching it. And

[1:24:10] >> we do have them sign a waiver.

[1:24:11] >> Yep. Exactly. And then we just have to

[1:24:13] track it and we each year we have to,

[1:24:16] you know, notice them and say, "Hey, you

[1:24:18] should get this replaced." And then if

[1:24:21] the home sells, we have to update, you

[1:24:23] know, inform that new person, but

[1:24:25] they're not eligible for us to replace

[1:24:27] it in the future, which they understand.

[1:24:29] >> We connect inside the house where the

[1:24:31] main goes to.

[1:24:32] >> It depends on what the material is

[1:24:34] coming out. We're seeing a lot of them

[1:24:35] are copper stubbed and then galvanized

[1:24:38] to that. And so we'll replace up to

[1:24:40] that. Some of them were we are going to

[1:24:42] go inside. Um

[1:24:44] >> I just wonder what you're going to find

[1:24:45] inside.

[1:24:46] >> It's

[1:24:47] >> So what do you do when you hit a problem

[1:24:49] like that? Do we write a letter and say

[1:24:52] >> Well, the contract

[1:24:54] >> the contract is to go into the shut all

[1:24:56] the way to the shut off valve.

[1:24:58] >> So we're covered that way.

[1:25:00] >> Yeah.

[1:25:01] >> Some of them don't have shut offs.

[1:25:03] >> Some some of them have whatever wonky

[1:25:07] valve they had at the time, too. So,

[1:25:09] we'll end up improving some of that,

[1:25:11] too.

[1:25:11] >> Okay.

[1:25:12] >> For them as part of this. And that's all

[1:25:14] under the contract.

[1:25:18] » That sounds great.

[1:25:19] >> Um, and then yeah, the EDR just in

[1:25:23] design there um for the finishing feed

[1:25:25] and the master plan. We're moving into

[1:25:28] our rate study analysis portion of that.

[1:25:31] >> We can report more on that in the

[1:25:34] future. But

[1:25:34] >> yeah,

[1:25:35] >> that's it

[1:25:36] >> for now.

[1:25:37] >> Thanks, Trevor. appreciate the report.

[1:25:39] Thank you.

[1:25:40] >> Okay, let's move on. See to your water

[1:25:41] report.

[1:25:42] >> All right. Thank you, board chair. So,

[1:25:44] the culinary water production for the

[1:25:46] month of February was 94.02

[1:25:50] million gallons or 288.56

[1:25:53] acre feet. And that's a 38% decrease

[1:25:58] from February of 2025.

[1:26:01] So far, year to date, we purchased 60.02

[1:26:05] acre feet of water from Jordan Valley.

[1:26:08] As far as the call outs go, we've had a

[1:26:11] total of 14 for the month. 10 of those

[1:26:13] were on the water side and four were on

[1:26:16] the wastewater side for a total of 45.5

[1:26:20] hours. 30 of those were water and 15.5

[1:26:24] ended up wastewater.

[1:26:26] >> Steve, do we notice them lower in the

[1:26:28] winter time than in the summer?

[1:26:30] >> You know, it just varies. I mean, yeah.

[1:26:33] >> So, temperature doesn't matter as

[1:26:35] >> it it does. part in it, but it kind of

[1:26:39] changes the calls from a different type

[1:26:42] of call. So,

[1:26:44] >> um like this month we didn't have any

[1:26:47] main lines. Um we had one service line

[1:26:50] and then the rest of them were pretty

[1:26:53] much like for the water part anyways.

[1:26:55] The rest of them were on the homeowner

[1:26:57] side.

[1:26:58] >> It seems like when we get really

[1:26:59] extremely cold weather that seems when

[1:27:02] everything shows up.

[1:27:03] >> It Yeah, it does. I mean,

[1:27:06] but at the same time during the summer,

[1:27:09] the spring, fall, it kind of the

[1:27:12] ground's shifting and we start to see a

[1:27:14] lot then too. So, it just depends. It

[1:27:16] varies.

[1:27:18] Um, that's really all I have unless you

[1:27:21] guys had any questions about any

[1:27:22] questions about earlier.

[1:27:24] >> No. Thank you.

[1:27:26] >> Okay. Dallas.

[1:27:27] >> Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman, I've got just a

[1:27:29] couple things I wanted to go over. Um,

[1:27:32] Mr. Dilly mentioned that we filed the

[1:27:34] annual bioolids permit. Um that's an

[1:27:37] annual report that we have to do to the

[1:27:38] state. That just talks about how much

[1:27:40] sludge we've hauled, how much chemical

[1:27:42] we've used. Um there's two different

[1:27:45] units that they look at that in 866

[1:27:48] drymetric tons. That's how we report it.

[1:27:51] And the way we calculate that inhouse,

[1:27:53] it was just over 14,45,360

[1:27:58] lbs for the year 2025. That's 440 loads

[1:28:02] with no deficiencies reported. Um,

[1:28:06] February operations are really stable

[1:28:08] even with the fluctuating temperatures.

[1:28:10] We've been able to walk the mix liquor

[1:28:12] suspended solids concentrations in the

[1:28:14] aeration basins down to about 2,000. Um,

[1:28:17] that's going to be really good for us as

[1:28:19] we move into April and May. We like to

[1:28:21] operate between 1,800 and 2,000 during

[1:28:24] the summer months. Um, so to be there,

[1:28:26] that's a good head start for us. Um,

[1:28:29] when I say operations are stable and

[1:28:31] running well, I think the board's been

[1:28:34] around long enough to know that there's

[1:28:35] been some issues with ammonia in the

[1:28:37] past. Ammonia is really stable. We're

[1:28:39] getting good nitrification reliability.

[1:28:41] Um, and everything's looking really

[1:28:43] good. So,

[1:28:45] um, the collections crew,

[1:28:47] >> I got one question.

[1:28:48] >> Yes, sir.

[1:28:49] >> So, the ammonia thing, does it have

[1:28:50] anything? We've had really good weather.

[1:28:53] >> So, does that change when it's really

[1:28:55] cold and the bugs are cold? really cold

[1:28:58] is one factor in it. Um the mixed liquor

[1:29:01] concentration if that gets too high and

[1:29:04] then our our lack of air injection. So

[1:29:07] um but when you balance all those out we

[1:29:09] can get the we can keep the ammonia low.

[1:29:12] So we've got a monthly permit limit of

[1:29:15] seven but then we have a max daily of

[1:29:18] 30. Um and we haven't been over a max

[1:29:21] daily of three this year. Wow.

[1:29:23] >> So we're we're doing really well. Um,

[1:29:26] just an update on the collections crew

[1:29:28] and some of the maintenance that they're

[1:29:30] doing right now. They're working in

[1:29:32] downtown Magna. They're on the 8800

[1:29:35] block below 3100 and they're kind of

[1:29:37] working their way north and then over

[1:29:39] towards that corner pocket of 84 and um

[1:29:43] down there by Magnum Main Street. So,

[1:29:46] and that's all I have, Mr. Chairman,

[1:29:47] unless you've got any questions.

[1:29:49] >> Nope, that's it. Thank you, Leo.

[1:29:52] >> Thank you, chair board. Um,

[1:29:56] the only thing I have to report that we

[1:29:58] need to comply with by the end of this

[1:30:00] month is our impact fee report. It's due

[1:30:03] to the state auditor's office um on

[1:30:06] March 31st.

[1:30:08] Uh, wanted to also report the pretty

[1:30:11] much final trial balance was submitted

[1:30:13] to the auditors this week. So, Mick, you

[1:30:17] just signed a auditor's engagement

[1:30:19] letter,

[1:30:20] >> right? They should be up and going

[1:30:23] probably after I don't know when when

[1:30:25] they have time but everything is

[1:30:27] submitted to them

[1:30:29] and that's my report unless you have any

[1:30:31] questions.

[1:30:32] >> You guys have any questions?

[1:30:34] >> Good.

[1:30:34] >> Okay. Thank you. Um so I guess we'll

[1:30:37] move on. Andrew's left the room so let's

[1:30:40] go to water and sewer availability.

[1:30:43] >> Okay.

[1:30:46] >> Go ahead. Just go ahead.

[1:30:50] Okay,

[1:30:51] first one here is uh SLCE 319

[1:30:55] development.

[1:30:57] So this is uh let's see, I'm going to

[1:31:00] pull it up on

[1:31:03] GIS so we can see visually where this

[1:31:06] is. Uh Ana Caroline Drive, uh Parkway

[1:31:10] Boulevard, if you you know where the

[1:31:12] Windco is over there. If you head north

[1:31:14] along along that street

[1:31:17] >> is that along the WCO road is right.

[1:31:19] Okay, I know what you're talking.

[1:31:20] >> Just keep heading north. 2400 south goes

[1:31:24] over Mountain View and this is 2300

[1:31:27] >> under Mountain View. Right.

[1:31:29] >> Goes over

[1:31:30] >> over the top.

[1:31:30] >> Goes over the top.

[1:31:31] >> Oh

[1:31:32] >> yeah. But just Yeah. give you an idea of

[1:31:35] where we're at. They this this

[1:31:37] development has purchased

[1:31:40] parcels on both sides of 2300 South and

[1:31:44] what they're planning right now is a a

[1:31:45] single warehouse to the north. Um and

[1:31:48] you'll notice in the letter that we

[1:31:50] reference our water and sewer in 2300.

[1:31:53] Still be to be determined if that's

[1:31:55] remaining in initial con conversations

[1:31:58] that would remain. Right now it's in

[1:32:00] rightway. we would get an easement as

[1:32:02] part of that. But as far as providing

[1:32:05] water and sewer, we have sufficient

[1:32:07] flows, fire flow, um, and capacity, and

[1:32:13] we'd recommend providing water and sewer

[1:32:15] service to this development.

[1:32:18] Do you have any questions?

[1:32:19] >> I don't. We just We need a motion on it,

[1:32:21] right?

[1:32:22] >> Yep.

[1:32:25] » So, Mr. Mr. Chairman, make a motion

[1:32:28] uh for SLC 319 development located at

[1:32:32] 5750 West, 2300 South for sure and

[1:32:36] water.

[1:32:37] >> I'll second that.

[1:32:38] >> A motion second. All in favor?

[1:32:40] >> Okay, Trevor, I'll let you take the next

[1:32:42] one and then we'll come back over to

[1:32:43] Andrew.

[1:32:44] >> Uh next one is Moody subdivision lot

[1:32:46] number four. Um

[1:32:49] if you recall there is we we had a

[1:32:53] previous subdivision Moody Sillmaster.

[1:32:56] Um and this is what that was was a

[1:32:59] commercial development. They put in the

[1:33:01] initial infrastructure with that

[1:33:03] development and then they let the lots

[1:33:06] were bare. Um and so as each of those

[1:33:09] lots come in and develop, we're

[1:33:11] evaluating what goes in there uh in

[1:33:14] those connections. So this is lot number

[1:33:17] four of that subdivision. We did lot

[1:33:20] eight and nine.

[1:33:21] >> So Trevor was one big lot and so then

[1:33:24] they decided to subdivide it.

[1:33:26] >> Correct.

[1:33:27] >> How do we get the water and sewer? Do we

[1:33:29] have to do a rightway to get to the back

[1:33:31] lots?

[1:33:32] >> So So when they did the overall

[1:33:36] subdivision

[1:33:37] >> Uhhuh.

[1:33:38] >> we already had, and this is pretty

[1:33:40] accurate, we already had water in here,

[1:33:43] a water loop. Um, and they they ended up

[1:33:46] putting in w a secondary and sewer back

[1:33:49] into here. It's like a culde-sac. Um,

[1:33:52] and then they stubbed out services to

[1:33:54] each of these lots very similar to a

[1:33:58] residential subdivision, but it's a

[1:34:00] commercial one. And so when these lots,

[1:34:03] all that main infrastructure is in. And

[1:34:06] when these lots come in, then we know

[1:34:08] what building type is going to be there.

[1:34:10] And then we evaluate the service

[1:34:12] specific to that to that building on

[1:34:14] that lot.

[1:34:15] >> So how many are still vacant then?

[1:34:18] >> Oh, there's got to be one, two, three,

[1:34:22] four, probably five.

[1:34:24] >> Is there impact fees for each?

[1:34:26] >> Correct.

[1:34:27] >> Yeah.

[1:34:31] » All right,

[1:34:33] Mr. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a

[1:34:34] motion for uh Moody subdivision lot 4

[1:34:38] located 2258 South Moody Drive.

[1:34:42] >> I'll second that.

[1:34:43] >> A motion second. All in favor?

[1:34:45] >> I I

[1:34:46] >> Okay, Andrew, I'm coming back to you.

[1:34:47] So, I'm all over the place this morning.

[1:34:49] Apologize.

[1:34:49] >> You're okay. I apologize. I had to step

[1:34:51] out. I had a multiple phone calls from

[1:34:53] an employee and would need to make sure

[1:34:54] it wasn't an emergency. So, everything

[1:34:57] was okay, though.

[1:34:58] >> Okay.

[1:35:00] Um

[1:35:01] so as you can see we have 35 of our 36

[1:35:05] positions currently filled here at the

[1:35:07] district. Um some of the trainings that

[1:35:10] we have coming up we have our uh our

[1:35:15] bianual on-site CPR and first aid and

[1:35:18] AED training coming up uh on the 23rd of

[1:35:21] March. We have Jean Stock getting ready

[1:35:23] to go to water efficient landscaper

[1:35:25] training. Uh so he can care for our

[1:35:28] gardens. It's through Jordan Valley.

[1:35:31] >> Um it should be a good training.

[1:35:33] >> Uh we have our team building coming up

[1:35:36] in April for the second quarter and then

[1:35:38] we have uh the fire department coming

[1:35:40] out to do an on-site fire extinguisher

[1:35:42] training with us at the end of April. Um

[1:35:46] this month we're focusing on blood work

[1:35:48] pathogens. It kind of coincides with the

[1:35:50] first aid and CPR training. Uh so

[1:35:53] everybody understands the risk that

[1:35:55] they're taking on as they respond to any

[1:35:59] emergency with first aid or CPR. Um got

[1:36:03] some conferences coming up. Probably the next two that are coming up that are

[1:36:07] going to be before the next board

[1:36:08] meeting. Uh March 16th through 18th

[1:36:11] water users in St. George. And then

[1:36:14] March 21st through April 2nd, Utah GFAO

[1:36:18] Le will be attending that.

[1:36:19] >> Should be the 31st, not there.

[1:36:22] >> That is a typo. Apologize.

[1:36:24] >> That's That one's in St. George as well.

[1:36:27] That's the government uh accounting

[1:36:29] organization.

[1:36:31] >> So, we've started the secession

[1:36:33] planning. Um the managers went through

[1:36:36] and filled out some information on where

[1:36:39] they see the key positions are and needs

[1:36:42] that are going to be coming up in future

[1:36:44] years as well as some of the risks that

[1:36:46] they're seeing. Uh right now we're in

[1:36:49] the stage of the employees are filling

[1:36:51] out a survey on positions that they

[1:36:54] might be interested in filling and then

[1:36:56] next week we'll start meeting with those

[1:36:58] employees to uh align their goals with

[1:37:03] the district goals. Um give them a

[1:37:05] better understanding what what's going

[1:37:07] to be available. Um and then lastly,

[1:37:10] annual employee goals. We've wrapped

[1:37:13] those up. We brought them to the board

[1:37:15] to review. Um, we'll take any changes

[1:37:18] that the board sees fit and then we'll

[1:37:21] get started on them.

[1:37:23] >> That's it for me, chair board. Thank

[1:37:25] you. Is there any other questions?

[1:37:26] >> On the uh April 22nd to the 24th, Jordan

[1:37:30] Valley is putting that on. Is that

[1:37:32] right?

[1:37:33] >> Yes.

[1:37:33] Correct.

[1:37:34] >> And where will that be?

[1:37:35] >> At their facility.

[1:37:37] >> Yes.

[1:37:38] >> Is any public invited to go there?

[1:37:40] >> Um, yeah. I think anybody can do it.

[1:37:42] landscapers, they they encourage

[1:37:44] landscapers to get it so that they can

[1:37:48] start performing those things here in

[1:37:50] the communities when they go build

[1:37:51] somebody's landscape.

[1:37:53] >> So, is that make sure that the

[1:37:55] contractors putting something in that

[1:37:57] they could get a grant for, get

[1:37:59] reimbured for?

[1:37:59] >> I believe so.

[1:38:00] >> That's what the whole thing is is for

[1:38:02] qualifications.

[1:38:03] >> Yes. We also have that class on the

[1:38:05] 15th, April 15th here that Jordan Valley

[1:38:08] puts on the local scapes class and

[1:38:10] they'll go over a lot of that

[1:38:11] >> for the public.

[1:38:14] >> Who teaches the class there?

[1:38:16] >> They do.

[1:38:16] >> It's Jordan Valley.

[1:38:17] >> Oh, they come here.

[1:38:18] >> So, is that that's at night, right?

[1:38:19] >> You don't get that.

[1:38:20] >> What time does that stop?

[1:38:21] >> 5:30.

[1:38:22] >> April 15th.

[1:38:23] >> How How long does it go for?

[1:38:25] >> It's about an hour.

[1:38:26] >> Okay.

[1:38:27] >> We had a pretty good turnout last time.

[1:38:29] We

[1:38:29] >> We did. We'll be getting a flyer put

[1:38:31] together and sent out. So, so that one

[1:38:33] that he's talking about is geared

[1:38:34] towards homeowners. This is a larger

[1:38:37] course that's geared towards landscapers

[1:38:39] themselves. And then there's a Yeah. And

[1:38:41] then there's a exam that they have to

[1:38:43] pass to show that they're qualified.

[1:38:46] >> Oh, wow.

[1:38:46] >> And then that they carry that

[1:38:49] qualification.

[1:38:51] >> Okay.

[1:38:52] >> Well, thank you, Andrew.

[1:38:53] >> Yep.

[1:38:55] >> Okay. Let's move it on to the part uh

[1:38:57] our project reward and agreement. Uh

[1:38:59] Trevor.

[1:39:00] >> Okay.

[1:39:01] Thank you, chair board. First one here

[1:39:03] is for JUB engineers.

[1:39:06] Um, if you remember, they helped us with

[1:39:09] design of Westside Collection project

[1:39:12] number two. Um,

[1:39:14] as they got done wrapping that up, I

[1:39:17] believe they did a really good job, uh,

[1:39:20] very thorough, um, responsive to our

[1:39:23] concerns and our comments during that

[1:39:26] design. and we had anticipated doing um

[1:39:31] project number three design as well. So

[1:39:34] I asked them to put together um this

[1:39:38] task order um scope and fee for design

[1:39:41] of Westside Coll sorry Westside

[1:39:44] Collection project number three and

[1:39:46] that's what this is for.

[1:39:49] Um if you have any specific questions to what's in there um otherwise

[1:39:55] >> is going to be on and above what's

[1:39:57] already been approved or

[1:39:59] >> so they did we we had already approved

[1:40:02] um Westside Collection project 2 and

[1:40:04] they and we took that to 95% because we

[1:40:07] weren't going to bid it. So those specs

[1:40:09] and and plans are complete. Um, and then

[1:40:13] we wanted to move to designing project

[1:40:15] number three, and that's where this

[1:40:18] scope and fee is for.

[1:40:20] >> So, Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a

[1:40:21] motion to approve the

[1:40:24] JUB task order for Westside Collection

[1:40:27] Project 3, design and bidding in the

[1:40:29] amount of $190,200.

[1:40:32] >> I'll second that.

[1:40:33] >> Motion a second. All in favor? I

[1:40:35] >> I

[1:40:36] Trevor.

[1:40:37] >> Thank you. Um,

[1:40:40] jump back here.

[1:40:43] Okay. Uh, we just talked about Westside

[1:40:47] Collection. So, this easement is for

[1:40:50] Westside Collection project number two.

[1:40:53] There's a large portion of our existing

[1:40:55] sewer. Um, I'll pull up a map here that

[1:40:58] runs along Highway 2011

[1:41:01] along the south side between 8000

[1:41:06] west and 8,400 west. And as part of

[1:41:10] project number two, we're going to

[1:41:11] parallel that sewer line. It's this one

[1:41:14] here. You can

[1:41:15] >> What's the offset?

[1:41:17] >> Offset.

[1:41:18] >> Yeah.

[1:41:19] It's roughly

[1:41:21] it it differs a little bit but generally

[1:41:24] around 30 ft of separation between the

[1:41:26] two and that puts us a little bit

[1:41:28] further to the south which essentially

[1:41:31] all these parcels are kicott parcels. Um

[1:41:35] primarily the existing line remained in the UD do rideway. um with our new

[1:41:42] alignment, we're needing some easement

[1:41:45] from Kennot for this new line. And so

[1:41:48] that's what this easement agreement is.

[1:41:51] Um we we have a pretty standard easement

[1:41:54] agreement with Kakott that we've used

[1:41:56] throughout the district over time. It's

[1:41:58] changed a little bit. So we've gone

[1:42:00] through this, reviewed it with them.

[1:42:01] Nathan and I have both looked at this

[1:42:04] and reviewed. Um and if you It gives us

[1:42:08] the easement that we need for access. um

[1:42:11] to maintain this sewer line. And if you

[1:42:15] look at the last page in your packet

[1:42:19] with this one, you'll see a cost

[1:42:23] associated with that easement.

[1:42:27] Keep scrolling.

[1:42:30] >> You were able to cut that down a little

[1:42:32] bit.

[1:42:33] So in discussions with them um these are in their mind and according to

[1:42:42] what they've been offered kind of prime

[1:42:45] areas near 8,000 near 2011 and so

[1:42:49] they've actually got some offers for

[1:42:50] these properties that are quite high. Um

[1:42:54] and they weren't interested in

[1:42:56] negotiating the easement cost.

[1:42:58] >> Well,

[1:43:00] yeah,

[1:43:00] >> it doesn't hurt to try. We're beholden

[1:43:02] to that. We do need it. Um I you know

[1:43:06] they're still fair in the respect that

[1:43:08] they're they're looking at a 20%.

[1:43:11] A lot of easements when people are

[1:43:13] getting those they can be a lot higher

[1:43:15] than that. Um so that equals out to $6 a

[1:43:19] square foot. We've got 27,955

[1:43:23] square feet for a total of $167,730.

[1:43:28] Um so as part of this you know uh

[1:43:32] approving the going through with the

[1:43:34] agreement it would also be to pay that

[1:43:36] cost for the easement.

[1:43:37] >> Okay. So that cost has to be associated

[1:43:40] with that.

[1:43:41] >> Okay. So um

[1:43:45] Mr. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a

[1:43:46] motion to approve the lease agreement

[1:43:48] with Kennott or

[1:43:50] >> the easement.

[1:43:52] >> Oh, the easement agreement with Kennott

[1:43:54] on Westside Collection Project 2, the

[1:43:57] amount of 167730

[1:44:01] $167,730

[1:44:05] in motion second. All in favor?

[1:44:08] >> K. Dallas.

[1:44:08] >> Thank you.

[1:44:09] chair and board. Uh we've got

[1:44:11] today presenting the annual acoustic

[1:44:14] assessment project um that we partnered

[1:44:17] with RH Bordon. We're targeting this

[1:44:19] year 250,000 linear feet or or just

[1:44:23] under 50 miles of sewer pipeline. Um

[1:44:27] I've got a picture of a map to kind of

[1:44:29] talk through about how we're

[1:44:31] prioritizing and targeting the system.

[1:44:33] >> Wow.

[1:44:34] >> Anything that's orange has been done and

[1:44:37] we have a solid baseline on. We won't

[1:44:40] redo that this year. Um, anything in

[1:44:43] that main trunk corridor that's red,

[1:44:45] yellow, and green, we'll target that

[1:44:47] area specifically. Um, we no longer

[1:44:51] assess downtown Magna. We know that

[1:44:54] based on um, pipe conditions and roots

[1:44:58] and stuff, we have to flush that twice a

[1:45:00] year. So, we don't inspect that

[1:45:02] acoustically. Um, and then on those main

[1:45:04] trunk lines, we don't acoustically

[1:45:06] inspect those. We did it initially to

[1:45:09] establish that baseline and then get

[1:45:11] these geo tags so that we can populate

[1:45:13] these these uh base maps into our GIS

[1:45:17] system. But really the

[1:45:21] our our strategy is that center corridor

[1:45:26] um that's where we spend most of our

[1:45:27] time. These guys will come in and

[1:45:29] they'll assess all of that. Um that

[1:45:32] would take us over a year to do. They

[1:45:34] can come in and help us out with that.

[1:45:36] It gives it gives each section that's

[1:45:39] assessed a grade from good to poor. If

[1:45:44] there's anything that comes up that's,

[1:45:46] you know, on a 1 to 10, five or less,

[1:45:48] it'll automatically send us an alert and

[1:45:50] we'll be able to go and target that

[1:45:52] section specifically. So, um,

[1:45:54] >> does that determine that determine leaks

[1:45:57] or quality of the material?

[1:45:59] >> It'll it'll detect any type of blockage

[1:46:01] or flow restriction.

[1:46:02] >> Oh, okay. That's all it is is for flow

[1:46:05] or blockage. Yeah. Um it's been a great

[1:46:08] service for us. So they're now you know

[1:46:13] through your permit you have to inspect

[1:46:16] your entire system x amount of times per

[1:46:19] x amount of years. Um this is now an

[1:46:22] approved inspection device. So if we run

[1:46:25] through this with if we run this

[1:46:27] equipment through our system, we can

[1:46:29] check that box as an inspection. So, um,

[1:46:32] >> so everything you've got green and red

[1:46:35] now will be yellow by next year.

[1:46:37] >> No. So, when you look at that, those are

[1:46:40] the different grades that have come

[1:46:41] back. So, X amount of our system is

[1:46:43] green, which is a grade of seven or

[1:46:47] higher. Anything that's yellow would be

[1:46:49] seven to like four, and then anything

[1:46:51] that would be red would be three to

[1:46:53] zero. Um so if you see something that on

[1:46:57] that inspection day um resulted in a red

[1:47:02] section then we would go out immediately flush that and then it'll go

[1:47:06] back to green. So it's just one way to

[1:47:09] track and then we've got a dashboard

[1:47:11] that we can layer the data

[1:47:13] year-over-year so we can see how much

[1:47:15] we're improving. Right now we've got

[1:47:17] about 95% of our system is seven or

[1:47:23] higher. Oh wow, that's good.

[1:47:25] >> So, but without the data, we're just

[1:47:28] guessing.

[1:47:28] >> Um, but this is a this is using

[1:47:32] technology to strategically maintain and

[1:47:36] assess our system.

[1:47:37] >> That's pretty cool.

[1:47:38] >> Yeah.

[1:47:39] >> So, I remember when they came up with

[1:47:41] that saves a lot of men.

[1:47:44] >> And what what we're asking for on this

[1:47:46] contract, Mr. Chairman, is just uh

[1:47:48] 64,500

[1:47:50] is the dollar amount.

[1:47:54] Okay.

[1:47:55] >> How many miles of pipe is that?

[1:47:57] >> It's about 47.5.

[1:47:59] >> Say 47.

[1:48:04] » Okay. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a

[1:48:06] motion to approve the annual acoustic

[1:48:09] inspection services with RH Bordon

[1:48:13] the collection system in the amount of

[1:48:15] $64,500.

[1:48:17] >> I'll second that.

[1:48:18] >> In motion second. All in favor? Hi.

[1:48:20] >> Hi.

[1:48:21] >> Okay, Trevor, let's do the lease

[1:48:22] agreement with Kakott.

[1:48:23] >> Okay,

[1:48:25] so water right lease agreement. Um, this

[1:48:29] is for a kakott spring right uh 593198.

[1:48:34] And right now we collect that water and

[1:48:36] we put it in our zone 2 reservoir.

[1:48:38] >> Um, and we've been doing that since that

[1:48:40] reservoir was built um, 2021. And we do

[1:48:44] an application or rather Kakott fills

[1:48:48] out an application each year, a

[1:48:50] temporary change application to allow us

[1:48:52] to use that water. At the back in 21

[1:48:57] when we first started taking the water,

[1:48:59] there was talk of a lease agreement.

[1:49:01] There was a draft of it and it went

[1:49:04] nowhere. Uh we don't truly know where

[1:49:07] the hangup was. It seemed like uh

[1:49:11] >> that's personnel changes

[1:49:12] >> personnel changes at Kennott and it

[1:49:14] slipped through, but um they reached out

[1:49:17] to us several months ago last late last

[1:49:20] year um talking about this lease

[1:49:23] agreement. They wanted to get it back in motion and get it in place.

[1:49:27] >> Is this a little creek that runs down?

[1:49:30] >> We've piped it from within their

[1:49:32] property and it goes makes its way over

[1:49:35] to our reservoir.

[1:49:38] Um, it was like 10 I want to say 10

[1:49:42] roughly 10 acre feet

[1:49:45] a year. Um, it's not a tremendous

[1:49:49] amount, but

[1:49:50] >> what what I've been told like over the

[1:49:53] winter time, you know, we'll lower the

[1:49:54] level of our reservoir and it's full. I

[1:49:59] mean, it's just a constant flow of

[1:50:01] water. Um,

[1:50:02] >> so maybe it's depending on how much rain

[1:50:05] water we get. We've seen it fluctuate a

[1:50:07] little bit.

[1:50:08] >> Oh, really?

[1:50:08] >> Um, we measure it every month and that's

[1:50:11] how we report to Kakott that reports to

[1:50:14] water rights.

[1:50:15] >> Kennot probably has got a water right on

[1:50:17] that water.

[1:50:18] >> They do and they need beneficial use. We

[1:50:20] provide that. So, with with all of that,

[1:50:23] they would like a a lease agreement in

[1:50:25] place. Um,

[1:50:28] >> the right is 29 acre feet, but we we

[1:50:32] have not seen it produce that much. Um,

[1:50:34] like I said, around 10 acre feet each

[1:50:37] year. Um, if you scroll through, what

[1:50:41] this comes with is a cost to the

[1:50:42] district. Um, and

[1:50:47] the way it's structured here is year 1

[1:50:49] through five, which they want to go

[1:50:51] retroactive back to 2021 through end of

[1:50:54] 26. It would be $10 per acre foot. So 10 time 10 $100. I mean, we're $100.

[1:51:04] cost us more to to write it up.

[1:51:07] >> Yeah.

[1:51:08] >> Um so it's it's a pretty in

[1:51:11] insignificant amount of water. Um but

[1:51:15] they would like this in place and

[1:51:16] >> just trying to get credit for it, right?

[1:51:18] >> Yeah. I think within their to be able to

[1:51:20] lease that water and and have it

[1:51:22] >> right.

[1:51:23] >> Yeah.

[1:51:23] >> Have it documented this way is important

[1:51:25] to them. I

[1:51:27] >> Well, they never want to be accused of

[1:51:29] giving something away. I can think uh

[1:51:31] back in the day that those guys grabbed

[1:51:33] the water that was going down creek

[1:51:35] that's been a plus for us.

[1:51:37] >> Yeah.

[1:51:37] >> Uh if the state would have got a hold of

[1:51:39] that that could have been pretty bad.

[1:51:41] >> Yeah.

[1:51:41] >> And I think it actually helped us be

[1:51:43] able to get it over in C7. Right.

[1:51:46] >> Yeah. So,

[1:51:48] um I I recommend

[1:51:52] approving this lease and allowing us to

[1:51:54] move forward with Kennot

[1:51:55] >> the lease agreement.

[1:51:56] >> Yep.

[1:51:58] >> Um

[1:51:59] So, Mr. Chairman, I make a motion to

[1:52:02] approve the lease agreement with Kennoff

[1:52:04] for Water Ride 59-3198.

[1:52:08] » I'll second that.

[1:52:09] >> Motion second. All in favor?

[1:52:11] >> I

[1:52:12] >> Okay, Trevor.

[1:52:13] >> Okay, last one.

[1:52:14] >> All on you.

[1:52:16] >> Okay, this is a storm drain easement.

[1:52:19] Um, we've discussed this in the past. Um

[1:52:23] there's construction waste management,

[1:52:25] the waste management company near the

[1:52:27] wastewater treatment plant. Um their

[1:52:30] intention is to reroute some storm water

[1:52:33] that runs through their property so that

[1:52:35] they can expand their waste site. And in

[1:52:39] doing so, they've approached us for an

[1:52:42] easement through a portion of a

[1:52:44] wastewater treatment plant property

[1:52:47] um over to take that, you know, pipe it

[1:52:50] and move the storm water into um

[1:52:54] what's that?

[1:52:55] >> Kersy.

[1:52:55] Yep. Kersy Creek.

[1:52:58] >> Did they take out the reservation? Did

[1:53:01] Are they the ones that marked this out

[1:53:02] or did we mark that out? Another

[1:53:04] >> us. So, so I'm in um Nathan and I are

[1:53:09] still working through this um some back

[1:53:11] and forth and but what I'm I guess what

[1:53:15] I'm looking for here is um you know we

[1:53:19] we've discussed providing this easement.

[1:53:22] Um so just an approval to continue to

[1:53:27] refine this agreement with with Nathan

[1:53:29] and myself and and move forward with

[1:53:32] them on providing the easement. One of

[1:53:34] the things is that we've kind of had

[1:53:37] some back and forth with them. First, it

[1:53:40] sounded like it was an easement to

[1:53:42] construction waste management and then

[1:53:43] it

[1:53:45] they provided something that had Magnus

[1:53:47] City on it and that that made some, you

[1:53:50] know, confusion on our end and I've

[1:53:52] gotten to the bottom of it. What they're

[1:53:54] working on with Magnus City is a storm

[1:53:56] drain um like management agreement. So

[1:54:00] this storm drain pipe would be owned and

[1:54:04] managed by construction waste

[1:54:06] management. It wouldn't be turned over

[1:54:07] to any public agency and that's where

[1:54:09] this agreement is with them um

[1:54:14] specifically and not with any city or

[1:54:17] >> other entity.

[1:54:19] >> No. And we'll make sure that that that

[1:54:22] agreement is you know we're not

[1:54:24] providing an easement if that agreement

[1:54:27] isn't in place.

[1:54:28] >> Okay.

[1:54:28] >> Does that make sense? So,

[1:54:31] >> so Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a

[1:54:33] motion to approve the uh storm drain

[1:54:36] easement agreement to be granted to

[1:54:38] construction wast.

[1:54:40] >> I'll second that.

[1:54:41] >> Motion second. All in favor?

[1:54:43] >> I

[1:54:45] >> Okay, let's move on. Andrew Levolution.

[1:54:52] » Um, you want to take that first one le?

[1:54:56] >> Yeah, sure. Oh, so this is our

[1:54:58] resolution 202602

[1:55:01] and it includes

[1:55:04] basically

[1:55:06] three changes to our ARRS. So the first

[1:55:10] portion of the resolution is changing.

[1:55:13] Sorry, let me get

[1:55:14] >> section A.

[1:55:16] >> 6.4.

[1:55:17] >> Yeah. So the first one is isn't it the proceed or

[1:55:24] purchases?

[1:55:25] >> Yes.

[1:55:25] >> Yeah. Okay. So, it takes uh Clint's

[1:55:28] authorization from 50 to 100,000 um that

[1:55:31] was recommended by the board last month.

[1:55:34] >> And then the following B letter B

[1:55:37] through F I believe has to do with um

[1:55:40] >> the new junior executive

[1:55:42] >> adding our junior executive

[1:55:44] classification in the AR and are where

[1:55:46] it's applicable.

[1:55:48] >> Just can I speak to that? So, so most of

[1:55:51] the changes to the junior executives are

[1:55:53] in addendum E of the AR&Rs and that's

[1:55:55] the addendum that goes over all of their

[1:55:57] benefits, but we also needed to make

[1:55:59] some conforming changes throughout other

[1:56:01] sections of the A&R. So, this is kind of

[1:56:03] structured just sequentially with the

[1:56:05] numbers of your section, but

[1:56:07] categorically we're increasing Clint's

[1:56:09] purchasing threshold.

[1:56:10] >> Then the rest of these changes are

[1:56:12] dealing with just junior executive

[1:56:14] stuff. So it's it'll look weird as you

[1:56:16] go through because we're saying we're

[1:56:17] adopting the attached version of Adende

[1:56:19] and then we're amending all these other

[1:56:20] sections. And then the third category

[1:56:22] and I'm just beating Lelay all to the

[1:56:24] punches

[1:56:25] >> is to make our language consistent with

[1:56:27] the three tardies policy that you had.

[1:56:29] We had some inconsistency in the AR. So

[1:56:31] using the same term

[1:56:33] >> and that's all that this resolution

[1:56:35] does.

[1:56:36] >> I sorry I figured that would be easier

[1:56:38] than going through like nine different

[1:56:39] lines of technical legal changes.

[1:56:42] >> Thank you.

[1:56:44] That looks good.

[1:56:45] >> So, we have to uh we have to um approve

[1:56:48] it, right?

[1:56:49] >> Yeah. So, what'll happen is is the way I

[1:56:51] drafted this resolution is if this is

[1:56:53] acceptable to you, you'll approve it and

[1:56:55] then we will then implement these

[1:56:57] changes to the AR&Rs which will be easy.

[1:56:59] We'll have to update the you know

[1:57:01] pageionation and things like that and

[1:57:02] then we'll get it uploaded.

[1:57:03] >> Yeah, that makes it good. And one of

[1:57:05] those forms that you signed, Mick, kind

[1:57:07] of prompted this because,

[1:57:09] >> right,

[1:57:09] >> our APA benefits that administers the

[1:57:12] benefits,

[1:57:13] >> right?

[1:57:14] >> One of this signed and approved. So,

[1:57:18] >> so, Mr. Chairman, do I want to make a

[1:57:20] motion?

[1:57:20] >> Yes.

[1:57:21] >> Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion

[1:57:22] to approve resolution 2026-02,

[1:57:27] approve the changes to the district's uh

[1:57:30] A&R as outlined in in that resolution.

[1:57:34] I'll second that

[1:57:35] >> in motion second. All in favor?

[1:57:37] >> I

[1:57:39] >> Okay, we don't need to do number two.

[1:57:41] We've already had that discussion

[1:57:43] information discussion only. No, no

[1:57:46] action. Nathan, do you want to give an

[1:57:47] update on the legislation?

[1:57:50] >> Yep. I know this is your favorite part

[1:57:51] of the meeting in the year. Um, so I've

[1:57:55] got a few bills. I'll go through them

[1:57:57] quickly. The first is HB147. that's

[1:57:59] going to require all government entities

[1:58:01] to provide an option for people to

[1:58:03] submit any forms or permit applications

[1:58:06] or things like that electronically.

[1:58:09] So, I mean, we can have the form and

[1:58:11] they can fill it out. There just needs

[1:58:12] to be a way that they can submit it

[1:58:13] electronically. Um, I think that's

[1:58:16] already kind of happening via email, but

[1:58:17] now it's so I don't think that's going

[1:58:19] to be a big deal. Um, another one that actually may be important for you

[1:58:23] is HB296.

[1:58:25] What that does is it allows for water

[1:58:27] that is being leased or provided to the

[1:58:30] Great Salt Lake, which you were doing,

[1:58:31] to be included in your 40-year plan,

[1:58:34] which is the topic of another bill that

[1:58:35] I'll get to. But essentially, with with

[1:58:38] public entities like you guys, you can

[1:58:40] hold your water rights without

[1:58:42] perfecting them for a period of 40

[1:58:44] years. And during that time, you're

[1:58:45] entitled to get any extension that you

[1:58:47] want. Once you hit 40 years, then the

[1:58:49] state's like, "Okay, you know, we don't

[1:58:51] want you just to hoard water. You've got

[1:58:53] to have a plan showing how you're going

[1:58:54] to use it for the next 40. Actually, I

[1:58:55] think it's 50 years and then you have to

[1:58:57] show how it's going to be used for the

[1:58:58] next 40.

[1:58:59] >> So, if we have a plan, we're okay. We

[1:59:01] can even roll it over after

[1:59:03] >> it just the So, the point is is our

[1:59:05] state's water laws are intended to

[1:59:07] ensure that people actually use the

[1:59:09] water and they're not hoarding it.

[1:59:10] >> So, public water suppliers are a little

[1:59:12] different. So, for instance, if we were

[1:59:14] to go out and prove up all your water

[1:59:15] right now, the state engineer would just

[1:59:17] give you a certificate for what you're

[1:59:19] using right now, not for what your water

[1:59:21] rights are approved. And so for a

[1:59:22] growing community like you guys, you

[1:59:24] have a lot of water that you have on

[1:59:26] standby that isn't being used yet.

[1:59:28] That's the intent here. But the

[1:59:30] legislature or the state at the same

[1:59:32] time, it's like, okay, you've had this

[1:59:34] water, it's been approved for 50 years.

[1:59:36] Like, are you going to need it or not?

[1:59:37] You got to show us a plan that there is

[1:59:39] an actual chance it'll be used in the

[1:59:41] next 40 years. What this does is it says

[1:59:43] that if you're leasing water to the

[1:59:44] Great Salt Lake, that counts as part of

[1:59:46] your 40-year plan. So otherwise, absent

[1:59:50] this bill, if we continue to lease water

[1:59:52] the Great Salt Lake, they could say,

[1:59:53] "Well, you're not using that water, and

[1:59:55] that doesn't qualify."

[1:59:57] >> Excuse me.

[1:59:58] >> So, does this account also for

[2:00:00] groundwater, well water?

[2:00:01] >> Yeah. But well, what this bill does is

[2:00:03] any water right that you're leasing,

[2:00:05] which is almost always surface water.

[2:00:07] People aren't leasing groundwater the

[2:00:08] lake, but it it I don't think it's

[2:00:10] limited to surface or groundwater. So,

[2:00:11] the point is is that and we we we're

[2:00:14] going to have to do a 40-year plan under

[2:00:15] another bill that I'll get to in a

[2:00:16] second, but when we do it, we can

[2:00:18] include those shares. So, the next thing

[2:00:21] is um HB 319. Uh this, I think, is a

[2:00:25] good bill. It provides a process by

[2:00:26] which we can have electronic notary

[2:00:29] documents be filed with the the the

[2:00:31] county. Um it's not mandatory, but it

[2:00:34] provides an option by which the county

[2:00:36] recorders can allow that. So, that makes

[2:00:37] it a lot easier if we can do electronic

[2:00:39] notoriization instead of having people

[2:00:41] come and physically sign. We'll see what

[2:00:42] the county recorders want to do. Um,

[2:00:45] there's some grammar changes. HB325 is

[2:00:48] one we'll need to go over those. Um,

[2:00:52] there's another bill, HB349, that comes

[2:00:55] it provides a new process by which you

[2:00:57] can apply for money from the Board of

[2:00:59] Water Resources to help increase

[2:01:00] reservoir capacity. I know you have a

[2:01:02] few small ones there. Um,

[2:01:06] there was a big bill that we talked

[2:01:07] about, HB501. This was the bill that was

[2:01:10] going to essentially require local water

[2:01:12] providers to impose a a local income tax

[2:01:15] essentially to help fund infrastructure

[2:01:18] projects. It was modified several times,

[2:01:20] but as we estimated, I think it was

[2:01:21] going to be what, $1,400 a year per

[2:01:23] connection. That bill ultimately did not

[2:01:26] pass at the last minute. Um, was kind of

[2:01:28] watching that till the end of the day. I

[2:01:30] do expect we're going to see something

[2:01:32] similar. My recommendation to rural

[2:01:34] water and to um the UASD and the water

[2:01:38] communities in general is the water

[2:01:40] community needs to come up with a

[2:01:41] proposal uh because to be fair to the

[2:01:44] legislature they are trying to fill a

[2:01:45] huge gap in the federal funding that

[2:01:47] we're no longer getting and it's an

[2:01:49] issue that needs to be addressed and if

[2:01:50] the water community doesn't come up with

[2:01:52] a way to fund it then the legislature is

[2:01:53] going to keep coming up with proposals

[2:01:55] we may not like. Um the other one uh

[2:01:58] there is a new bill HB535 that comes up

[2:02:00] with a new process by which a public

[2:02:03] entity has to follow before they can

[2:02:04] dispose of property. So for some of the

[2:02:06] properties we've acquired if we ever

[2:02:07] wanted to sell them. But the long and

[2:02:09] short of is we have to go through a

[2:02:10] 45day notice period so people have an

[2:02:12] idea that we're selling it.

[2:02:14] >> Um perhaps the the the biggest bill

[2:02:16] that's going to require us to do things

[2:02:18] is SB284. Each year the legislature has

[2:02:21] a very large land use bill that is

[2:02:23] passed that isn't typically targeted at

[2:02:25] water but often has uh tangential

[2:02:28] impacts and and that bill usually passes

[2:02:31] at the very end of the session. That was

[2:02:33] the case here. This was SB284. It was

[2:02:35] passed at 11:45

[2:02:38] on Friday, so 15 minutes before the end

[2:02:40] of the session. Um so what it does is it makes detached ADUs a permitted use.

[2:02:47] Um, we and I think we're going to have

[2:02:49] to sit down and figure out to change our AR&Rs on how to deal with that. We

[2:02:53] had some language years a couple years

[2:02:55] ago where it allowed basement ADUs to

[2:02:57] basically be a permitted use. So, um,

[2:03:01] that's that was something we'll need to

[2:03:03] work with. And the other one is what I

[2:03:05] said before, and that is if a water

[2:03:07] provider is requiring a water exaction,

[2:03:09] which has typically been a a water

[2:03:12] dedication, you have to have a 40-year

[2:03:14] plan that I discussed before in order to

[2:03:17] do that. And you have to have that in

[2:03:18] place by January 1st, 2028. And

[2:03:21] technically, the way the bill's drafted

[2:03:22] is you have to have it we we all need to

[2:03:24] do it if you're a culinary water

[2:03:26] provider. And I do we have a a 40-year

[2:03:29] plan?

[2:03:30] >> Yeah.

[2:03:31] >> So, we already have one. we're probably

[2:03:33] in good shape. It may we may want to

[2:03:35] update that now to include the water

[2:03:37] that we're leasing to the Great Salt

[2:03:39] Lake. And there were other some some

[2:03:40] other Great Salt Lake bills that um

[2:03:44] allow for water to be like for instance

[2:03:46] if we wanted to add the Great Salt Lake

[2:03:48] as a permanent place of use for your

[2:03:51] shares. So, you know, that that's

[2:03:53] another option now. So, you wouldn't

[2:03:55] have to necessarily use it all the time.

[2:03:57] It would just be there for for leasing

[2:03:59] when it's available. So that's

[2:04:01] essentially my report unless you have

[2:04:02] any questions.

[2:04:04] >> Cool.

[2:04:04] >> Thanks, Nathan.

[2:04:07] We're all done now up there for right

[2:04:08] now.

[2:04:10] >> Yeah. Just it'll just take us another

[2:04:12] couple months to implement it all.

[2:04:14] >> This is this large amount of the most

[2:04:17] bills they

[2:04:18] >> every year is the most they have. So

[2:04:20] they broke a record last year. They had

[2:04:21] over a thousand bills this year. There was legislation by Representative

[2:04:25] Oerlin to limit the number of bills that

[2:04:27] the legislature can have, but it didn't

[2:04:29] make any progress. He's a new

[2:04:30] representative, and his argument was

[2:04:32] we're introducing so many bills, we

[2:04:34] can't review them or vet them or process

[2:04:36] them appropriately. But I I there's it's

[2:04:39] just a it's a the

[2:04:43] end of January through first week of

[2:04:45] March is just a it's a marathon.

[2:04:47] >> Were there bills they tried to pass that

[2:04:49] was out of the time limit? There was I

[2:04:53] think one bill that there's a question

[2:04:55] on that and I think they ultimately did

[2:04:57] determine that it was outside of the the

[2:05:01] time limit and that was one that

[2:05:02] Representative Tusher ran to create a

[2:05:06] process by which um

[2:05:09] people in a first class county which is

[2:05:11] basically only Salt Lake County at this

[2:05:13] point where they could divide it and I

[2:05:14] think his his motivation wasn't to force

[2:05:16] a split of Salt Lake County but to give

[2:05:18] Westside interests an ability to split

[2:05:21] with the county if they wanted to, but

[2:05:23] that I think passed just like a couple

[2:05:26] seconds after midnight. So, I I think

[2:05:28] that was one that they ultimately ruled,

[2:05:30] don't quote me, that it didn't pass in

[2:05:32] time. Um,

[2:05:33] >> you don't know if it passed or not.

[2:05:35] >> Well, I know it passed. I just think it

[2:05:37] passed right after because they're they

[2:05:39] have so many things they are working

[2:05:41] like they're moving and then midnight

[2:05:43] hits and they just got to

[2:05:45] >> the coach turns into a pumpkin and it's

[2:05:47] done. Yeah.

[2:05:48] >> Is that the one where they can make a

[2:05:50] county within the city?

[2:05:52] >> No.

[2:05:53] >> That was divided up, right?

[2:05:55] >> Yeah. Well, it was a process. What what

[2:05:57] he was trying to do is not force a

[2:05:59] split, but just say, "Hey, if if you're

[2:06:00] in a county of the first class and you

[2:06:02] think it's too big and you want a

[2:06:04] smaller county, here's the process you

[2:06:06] go through to split into two."

[2:06:08] >> How long does that process take?

[2:06:09] >> I I don't know. The bill didn't It

[2:06:12] passed, but it's not going into effect

[2:06:13] because it didn't pass it.

[2:06:14] >> It'll probably come up next year now.

[2:06:16] >> Yeah, it'll come up next year. And one

[2:06:17] of the ones that I really like the most

[2:06:19] too is the charter schools don't ain't

[2:06:22] equal with the public schools. So when

[2:06:24] the public school sells the land, they

[2:06:26] they're not equal with us. We have we um

[2:06:30] the public schools um don't have to have

[2:06:33] I mean we don't have to give the charter

[2:06:35] schools, you know, first. They follow

[2:06:38] under the city and that for whenever

[2:06:41] they're selling.

[2:06:42] >> So yeah. So that bill was so right now

[2:06:45] certain municipalities that have a

[2:06:46] population density of over 3,000 people

[2:06:49] per acre have a first right of refusal

[2:06:51] if a school district sells property

[2:06:53] within their boundaries. Magna doesn't

[2:06:56] currently meet that because your density

[2:06:58] isn't that high. But what this bill was

[2:07:00] going to do initially it was going to

[2:07:02] give um charter schools that first rural

[2:07:06] the league and and Mick and Karns Magna

[2:07:08] and others pushed back on that. Holiday

[2:07:11] and I think a couple other cities and we

[2:07:13] were able to get it to be kind of a

[2:07:14] co-equal thing for every city. So every

[2:07:17] city would have a co-equal uh approach

[2:07:20] with the charter schools regardless of

[2:07:22] population density. But then the bill

[2:07:24] ultimately didn't pass. So

[2:07:26] >> are we going to see a lot more charter

[2:07:27] schools popping up now?

[2:07:29] >> I I the state's very pro-charter

[2:07:31] schools. So I think we have and I think

[2:07:33] we will continue to see them. I don't

[2:07:35] know if you'll see them. Um,

[2:07:38] usually usually charter schools in my

[2:07:41] experience seem to be proposed by

[2:07:42] developers in places where there isn't

[2:07:44] an existing school. And so here where

[2:07:46] you already have pretty good coverage

[2:07:48] and you have a brand new school, it

[2:07:50] seems unlikely that there would be a

[2:07:51] need. But then you have concerned

[2:07:53] parents that just want to have a charter

[2:07:54] school that deals with specific things.

[2:07:56] So

[2:07:56] >> I I don't know if you'll see any in

[2:07:58] Magna, but I think you'll probably see

[2:07:59] charter schools continue to pop up

[2:08:01] throughout the state. How do they g how

[2:08:03] does how does the public gauge how full

[2:08:08] I I'm assuming if a charter school is

[2:08:10] filling up pretty fast? Of course there

[2:08:13] again gender I mean kids move on get

[2:08:16] older and then they go to high school

[2:08:17] whatever but uh how do they gauge the

[2:08:21] how crowded the the charter school

[2:08:24] becomes? I mean if it gets real crowded

[2:08:25] do that oh we better build another one

[2:08:27] or

[2:08:28] >> Well charter schools are I I'm not a

[2:08:30] charter school expert. I'll find it

[2:08:32] through. Tell me if I'm right or wrong.

[2:08:33] It's pretty much developers that are

[2:08:35] building these charter schools.

[2:08:37] >> Yeah, but not always. You know, where I

[2:08:39] live in Daybreak, you know, we've been

[2:08:40] there for almost 20 years and we were in

[2:08:43] the old section and the parents there

[2:08:44] started their own, which is still there.

[2:08:46] But I think the difference between a

[2:08:47] charter school is charter schools kind

[2:08:49] of have an admissions process. They're

[2:08:51] not required to take everybody the way a

[2:08:53] public school does, right?

[2:08:54] >> So, if you want to have your kid in a

[2:08:55] charter school and charter schools

[2:08:57] aren't aren't um service area specific.

[2:08:59] So for instance, Cypress, people that

[2:09:01] live within Cypress's service area go to

[2:09:03] that school. But if you go send your kid

[2:09:05] to a charter school, they can that

[2:09:06] charter school can be anywhere and the

[2:09:08] kid can go there. So charter schools

[2:09:10] have a little bit more of a say over how

[2:09:12] many people they accept and will control

[2:09:14] over crowd.

[2:09:16] >> I like the school district.

[2:09:17] >> You may have to even apply for charter

[2:09:19] school.

[2:09:19] >> You do have to apply to charter schools

[2:09:20] and a lot of them only have so many. So,

[2:09:22] the one I mentioned in my neighborhood,

[2:09:24] my kids never went there, but it's a

[2:09:26] pretty competitive process to get in

[2:09:28] because there a lot of people that want

[2:09:29] to go and there only so many spots each

[2:09:31] year.

[2:09:31] >> Wow.

[2:09:31] >> It it's public schools that have the

[2:09:33] overcrowding issue because they have to

[2:09:34] take everybody.

[2:09:37] >> And you know, the problem that I had

[2:09:39] about u them being equal with us. I've

[2:09:42] lived out here my whole life in Magnum.

[2:09:44] I paid school district taxes, right, for

[2:09:46] the high the old high school and

[2:09:47] everything. So why should the why should

[2:09:49] the charter still be able to come in and

[2:09:51] be able to take that school over and we we have lived out here and we've paid

[2:09:56] taxes for that school all these years.

[2:09:59] >> So I think that and and this isn't my

[2:10:01] argument but I think that where the

[2:10:03] legis where Representative Peruchi who

[2:10:05] ran that bill was thinking is that

[2:10:08] charter schools are also funded with

[2:10:09] public taxes too. um and that it's a lot

[2:10:13] cheaper if they're a public entity as

[2:10:15] well to just acquire and use an existing

[2:10:17] building rather than having to build a

[2:10:18] new one.

[2:10:20] >> So that that I think was the what they

[2:10:21] were thinking.

[2:10:24] >> Well, thank you for the update. So our

[2:10:26] next board meeting is going to be April

[2:10:28] 9th, 2026 at 10 a.m. here.

[2:10:32] Uh we are in need of a close um a close session.

[2:10:40] So if someone wants to make a motion to

[2:10:43] close the open meeting.

[2:10:45] >> Mr. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a

[2:10:46] motion to take a brief recess and

[2:10:49] immediately following meet and close

[2:10:51] meeting to discuss the purchase,

[2:10:53] exchange, lease of sale of real

[2:10:55] property, including any form of water

[2:10:58] right or water shares pending on

[2:11:01] reasonable, imminent litigation, and

[2:11:05] collective bargaining issues pursuant to

[2:11:07] Utah code uh 52-4-204

[2:11:11] through 205.

[2:11:13] >> I'll second that.

[2:11:14] >> Motion second. All in favor?

[2:11:15] >> I

[2:11:17] >> There's 12 in.

[2:11:20] >> Does anybody want We need a motion to

[2:11:22] someone to motion to close the close and

[2:11:24] open the open.

[2:11:26] >> I'll make a motion to close the close

[2:11:28] and reopen the public board meeting. It

[2:11:31] is 11:15.

[2:11:33] >> I'll second that.

[2:11:34] >> Motion second. All in favor?

[2:11:36] >> I

[2:11:37] >> I'd like to make a motion to immediately

[2:11:39] meet

[2:11:40] >> Oh, what's that?

[2:11:41] >> We don't We were going to have a closing

[2:11:42] personnel, but we don't need to. Okay,

[2:11:44] we're good.

[2:11:46] >> So, do you any do we have any other

[2:11:48] business that needs to come before this

[2:11:49] body or are we all good?

[2:11:52] >> Think we're good.

[2:11:53] >> Okay. Someone want to make a motion?

[2:11:57] >> I'd like to make a motion to adjurnn.

[2:11:59] >> Thank you.

[2:12:00] >> You need a second, Danny? I'll

[2:12:02] >> second it.

[2:12:02] >> Motion second. All in favor? I

March 12 2026

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