August 25 2026 Budget Committee Meeting

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[0:22] [clears throat]
[0:25] judge. Would you like to address? >> Thank you. What I'd like to do is I know
[0:29] that last time we spoke with the corn court, we had a resolution that allowed
[0:33] me to go out and look for the 20% for the five bridges, the three low water
[0:37] crossings in the moccasin creek and Jimmy's Creek bridge. And the 20% would
[0:42] be 2.6 million on the county and then 10.7 towards the state. Uh I'm not
[0:48] legally allowed by amendment 78 to take out a loan for the county for longer
[0:52] than 5 years. I was given even a five and a half percent rate on that which
[0:56] would be amazing in this day and age. $5,000 a month back to the loan
[1:02] bank for five years. Okay. Second option that we've uh came across
[1:08] would be a bon and with the last two ways uh Marian County as a whole has
[1:16] shown up to vote and responded to anything to do with a sales tax issue. I
[1:20] don't think that that would be a wise direction to go at this time. So
[1:25] thirdly, we have what's called a partnership with ARDOT.
[1:29] And ARDOT is already covering the other $10 million will cover up to the 2.6 or
[1:34] other amounts [snorts] depending on how much of state highway we take back from
[1:39] them inside of Marian County. So it's an offer of them saying yes, we'll try to
[1:44] help out. At the same time, they're getting something very good. I have a
[1:48] few highways I'm looking at that that already half of the other half of that
[1:52] highway is Marian County Roads. Um I know it's a road and a bridge decision,
[1:57] but when it comes to something of that nature for our county, if that decision
[2:01] was to go forward in any way whatsoever, I would do it through a brief like this
[2:04] and into I would want us as a whole as a team to make that decision on what we
[2:10] can't afford or can't afford at that time. I just wanted to give you an
[2:12] update of where I'm at on uh alone and bond I believe are both Any
[2:21] questions for me? >> All right. Thank you very much.
[2:28] » Back to the agenda.
[2:33] » May I get a motion to read by title only?
[2:35] » Motion. >> May I get a second?
[2:38] » All in favor? >> I.
[2:42] » First item of business is the transfer station letter of credit. Be it resolved
[2:47] by the quorum court of Maring County, Arkansas, state of Arkansas, a
[2:50] resolution authorizing Marian County judge to submit application to extend
[2:54] letter of credit by First Service Bank of Yogville, Arkansas. May I get a
[3:00] motion? >> Motion.
[3:02] » May I get a second? >> Second.
[3:05] » Discussion.
[3:12] » If there's no discussion, I will entertain a vote. All in favor? I
[3:16] » I
[3:19] » next item of business is a resolution be it resolved by the quorum court of
[3:27] the county of Marian state of Arkansas that a resolution authorizing the county
[3:32] judge of Marian County to apply for a grant on behalf of the Marian County
[3:38] Circuit Clerk. May I get a motion? May I get a second? Second.
[3:45] discussion.
[3:53] Since there is no discussion, I'll entertain a vote. All in favor?
[3:56] » I.
[4:02] Next item of business
[4:06] will be uh an amendment to the
[4:11] modify the current appropriation budget and numbers and compensation portion of
[4:15] ordinance 2025-56. I'll go ahead and read the title. Be it
[4:19] enacted by the quorum court of Marian County, Arkansas, an ordinance to be
[4:22] entitled an ordinance amending the annual operating budget for the quorum
[4:26] court numbers and compensation ordinance 2025-56.
[4:31] May I get a motion?
[4:35] » May I get a second? >> Second.
[4:37] » Discussion.
[4:40] » Since there's no discussion, I will entertain a vote. All in favor?
[4:49] » Thank you. >> You're welcome.
[4:54] » Be enacted by the quorum court of Marian County, Arkansas. An ordinance to be
[4:57] entitled an ordinance amending the annual operating budget and numbers and
[5:01] compensation ordinance 2025-61 for calendar year 2026 for Marian
[5:07] County, Arkansas request funds from the local assistance tribal consistency fund
[5:13] for the purpose of repairing and replacing parts in the county corners
[5:17] cooler. May I get a motion? Motion.
[5:22] » May I get a second? >> Do we have any discussion?
[5:27] Since there is no discussion, I will entertain a vote. All in favor?
[5:31] » I.
[5:37] We have an ordinance from the sheriff's office.
[5:40] » Being enacted by the quorum court of Marian County, Arkansas, an ordinance to
[5:43] be entitled an ordinance amending the annual operating budget and numbers and
[5:47] compensation ordinance 2025-56 for calendar year 2026 for Marian
[5:54] County, Arkansas. These appropriated funds are for repairs, maintenance, and
[5:58] operation of the Maring County Detention Center. May I get a motion?
[6:05] » May I get a second? >> Second.
[6:07] » Any discussion?
[6:19] » Okay. Um, just a few things. I'm assuming this
[6:25] from the documents it's from the overpayment of the jail bond
[6:32] which is fine but when we look at the treasurer total from today um they're
[6:40] sitting at 301,000 and then this ordinance pulling from
[6:46] unappropriated to appropriated that leaves them about 89,000
[6:52] real money real money and budgeted money are two different things. Okay. And then
[6:56] payroll is next week, which is roughly about 35,000. So that's leaving this
[7:02] fund sitting at 40, I'm sorry, $54,000. So we appropriate this money and then
[7:09] turn around and do a court order to appropri uh to give money from county
[7:14] general. Do is there a bid? Is there something
[7:18] wrong with this facility um that we need this money appropriated or can we just
[7:24] leave this be? Um because we're going to need a court order from county general
[7:29] if we move this money to have a functioning um
[7:35] fund to pay bills with if we do payroll and this ordinance. Thank you.
[7:44] The money that we were asking for the 200,000 200 plus was the additional
[7:50] sales tax money that came in from this 0.5%
[7:56] sales tax that came in. That's what we were asking to move it over to the jail
[8:00] fund in order so we could replace and repair. One of them is a jail
[8:06] software that has gone south on us that now is
[8:12] opening doors when it's not supposed to, intercom's not working, or it's locking
[8:17] doors behind people that it doesn't need to be doing.
[8:21] This is the software, as y'all know how computer software goes. This is a
[8:26] software that was installed whenever the jail was built in 18 and we took
[8:30] possession in 19. There was no agreement for any
[8:35] maintenance on it. We've been fighting with it. Well, since
[8:40] we've been there since 13, I mean 2023. We actually even called Swiffer to come
[8:46] over, the people that installed it. But they they charge you $5,000 a hit to
[8:51] come over just to look at something. They decide to fix it or they decide
[8:57] they want to try to fix it. Usually they end up taking the computer and all and
[9:01] then you're just sitting there floating in water. So the money, I don't know
[9:06] what she was exactly talking about there, but the money is the money that
[9:10] would came in from the sales tax.
[9:19] I assume the money that came in from the sales tax was going to be used to
[9:34] according to Russo there's just so many things that you can use it for. I mean
[9:39] he came to the corn court meeting last two times ago
[9:42] » additional transfer money or we
[9:54] So if Annie if the fund if we transfer this and for
[10:03] payroll not this time but following how much do you estimate if that's the case
[10:10] if that's the case would you have to come for to county general far to the
[10:15] end of the year. How much >> have in the budget there's money sitting
[10:26] that's not changing. This is outside of the budget. So, we're not changing our
[10:31] budget at all. We're not changing what we're
[10:34] asking to hold this money so we can afford to do the things that have to get
[10:38] done. not changing county jail
[10:44] all year long with a [clears throat] court order. I do it for I do it for
[10:49] three different accounts. >> So I'm I I'm missing something here
[10:54] because I'm hear I think I'm hearing two different things.
[10:58] So, the the bond money that we got back, uh the bond money that we got back was
[11:06] supposed to um sub like subtract what
[11:13] money was the conditional transfers that 318 was
[11:21] allowed. this um bond money we got back was supposed to alleviate some of the
[11:28] burden that the conditional transfers that they originally allowed. Um but now
[11:34] they're wanting to appropriate it instead of subtracting from that county
[11:39] general burden, which okay, technically yes, they could.
[11:45] But looking at the real money, this money has already been put into
[11:52] 318. I have an email that says yes, it was put into 38 when the check came in
[11:59] from the bank. So including this
[12:05] um bond money as it sits, we only have 301,000.
[12:12] So unappropriated money, real money, just period. That includes what they
[12:17] have budgeted. Okay. So when you take that 202,000 that they're asking and
[12:26] appropriate it, that that leaves a remainder of possible
[12:33] monies to be spent at 89. And then payroll's next week. And so you
[12:38] subtract another 35,000 and that leaves 54
[12:43] available money period to be spent. Now that's not including bills they have
[12:49] coming in. So that just leaves it for that conditional transfer to move from
[12:55] county general real money 318 to support it.
[13:00] » Which if this money if this money was not there, Cheyenne, we'd be doing that
[13:04] anyway. >> Yes. But
[13:05] » but you say it's supposed to be doing this according to who? Because we talked
[13:09] to Russo about it that because we didn't we weren't in
[13:12] that conversation. >> I thought it was a countywide.
[13:15] » When the money came in 600, $700,000 I just as
[13:21] I just went, "Oh, good. We're not going to have to take as much from county
[13:26] general to year end
[13:30] because we're now >> I mean
[13:34] » if we move this money or we don't move this money a court order is going to be
[13:39] needed I guess regardless we assume
[13:46] » how much
[13:49] I mean if that money hadn't come in we would still be pulling money out of
[13:53] county general. >> It's not It's already It's not
[13:57] appropriated, but it's approved. >> We were just trying to get it moved over
[14:03] so we could do some maintenance. Building's 9 years old or whatever it is
[14:08] now software.
[14:16] So this is the what came in after the March when the thing stopped when all
[14:22] the tax stopped. This is the excess that just kept funneling through.
[14:25] » It actually came in in after April and May and this is the remainder of it that
[14:30] has come in >> which it was only ear for jail
[14:34] maintenance andor >> operations. Yes.
[14:37] » If it's anywhere else it's illegal. I mean it's or it's not supposed to be
[14:42] spent anywhere else. >> According to Russo, that's true. That's
[14:46] the way I understood it. >> Okay.
[14:49] So whether it gets it has to be spent in the jail or just sit there.
[14:56] » That's why it was appropriated into fund is so it cannot be spent anywhere
[15:02] else. So if it's appropriated or not, it's going to sit in 38 until it's spent
[15:08] this year, 5 years, 20 years from now. It's not going to be spent anywhere else
[15:12] except for in the jail because it was receded in to the correct fund.
[15:16] » Right. So, >> and it's supposed to roll over into next
[15:20] year and the following year. Whatever's left, you know, it's we're not looking
[15:24] to spend it. But there are things that's got to be updated,
[15:28] » but it budgets get budgeted every year. Nothing rolls over. That's why you
[15:32] budgeting budget every year.
[15:35] » The appropriations do not roll. the real money if there's
[15:44] » to question.
[15:51] So, if I'm hearing this correct, at the end of the day, whether
[15:55] we move this ordinance forward or not, we're still going to be in a position
[16:00] where we're going to have fixed items at the sheriff's office.
[16:03] » Exactly. >> No matter what the situation is.
[16:05] » Exactly. And with the discussion about coming out of
[16:10] county general, that's just going to be something that's going to
[16:13] » going to happen. >> Yeah.
[16:15] » Am I correct? >> What we're waiting what we're wanting to
[16:18] do is just put it over there in pot to be able to fix things that's come up.
[16:24] » Have to burden the county general for it all. I mean, software's they're
[16:29] estimating that's like $300,000. >> Yeah.
[16:38] high techch the high techch world of it is going skyhigh right now for some
[16:43] reason >> it's [clears throat]
[16:46] from a different line of work it's been that way for a couple years now so it's
[16:51] it's nothing new it's all right do we have any other
[16:56] discussion
[17:01] since there's no other discussion I will entertain a vote
[17:05] All in favor? >> I
[17:19] have resolution
[17:28] and this is on a grant application to the Arkansas GIS Agency to help with
[17:33] some funding. to get unmapped subdivisions and other
[17:38] unmapped subdivisions in the area mapped. Um,
[17:45] from the email from Tina Cole says, "My understanding is these funds are already
[17:49] in the budget for the assessor's office, so we are not requesting any new funds."
[17:55] » Oh, good. Okay. Sorry. I I'm still stuck on the last one.
[18:00] [laughter]
[18:03] All right. I'm gonna go ahead and read the title. Be it resolved by the quorum
[18:07] court of Marian County, state of Arkansas, a resolution entitled a
[18:10] resolution to authorize Marian County Assessor to apply for funding for the
[18:14] mapping of unmapped properties in Maring County, Arkansas.
[18:19] May I get a motion? >> May I get a second?
[18:24] » Second. >> Discussion.
[18:31] I know what unmapped properties is. Sounds like unapproved subdivisions.
[18:37] They're unapproved. And why should they be?
[18:43] Um,
[18:47] I don't know a whole lot about this, but subdivisions
[19:06] all mapped and into this
[19:11] » is a data scout. >> Yeah. [snorts] Okay.
[19:21] » Subdivision as a whole is mapped, but the people's individual
[19:26] » homes inside that subdivision are not mapped.
[19:32] » So like Ashley Estates down on 14 South is not what you're talking about. That's
[19:38] not an approved subdivision.
[19:57] I've got some of them taped to my wall at the office.
[20:13] Now, is it is the definition of the lines not mapped in data scout or is it
[20:19] the definition of who owns the parcel? >> The line.
[20:21] » It's the actual lines. Okay.
[20:31] help do that.
[20:45] That's my 27,000.
[20:55] Any other discussion?
[21:00] Since those there's no other discussion, I'll entertain a vote. All in favor? I
[21:11] » Are you going to fill in? >> Yep.
[21:12] » Okay. >> Promise.
[21:16] Waiting for Marcus to come back from Springfield, but he's probably glad
[21:20] drinking a beer or something right now. [laughter]
[21:24] » All right, you're up. Let me go ahead and read an ordinance [clears throat]
[21:30] being enacted by the quorum court of Marian County, Arkansas. An ordinance to
[21:33] be entitled an ordinance amending the annual operating budget and numbers and
[21:38] compensation ordinance 2025.56 for calendar year 2026 for Marian
[21:44] County, Arkansas. Transfer unappropriated funds from 3088 library
[21:50] state aid to 3088 period 06000 library state aid Marian County Library
[21:59] for construction and repairs at the Marian County Library, excuse me,
[22:04] library. May I get a motion? May I get a second? Second
[22:11] » discussion.
[22:15] One thing I noticed is we're asking for 80,000
[22:23] and one of the bids I'm looking at is 54450. Is that for cost overrun?
[22:28] » Uh no, that's for the cost excluding the guttering. The guttering is 3,000. So,
[22:33] we're less than less than $60,000, but apparently somebody said we need to ask
[22:38] for more for whatever reason. But, uh, to give you a scenario on the library,
[22:44] nobody remembers the last time the exterior of the library was anything
[22:48] done to it. We have a sopet laying on the on the ground. All that the material
[22:55] at the top, the wood is rotting out. This is going to be a an an intensive
[23:01] labor job. Probably using two lifts on most of the job because the soften
[23:07] fascia that has to be covered. I don't think one guy can do an 8 foot on a lift
[23:12] or whatever. So the the lift expense is going to be exorbitant.
[23:16] We put out bids in the echo on our website al also in the marquee. I think
[23:23] here we got one bed stone construction out of Carter and Mickey Griffin is
[23:29] coming out of retirement to help on the job. So if anybody knows Brad and
[23:35] Mickey, the job will be done right. We only got the one one bid and we had to
[23:40] pull teeth to get the one bit. This is a miserable labor job. I will tell you all
[23:44] right now. And uh uh probably you if you want to I'll meet
[23:50] you up some there sometime and take a look at it and you will appreciate it.
[23:54] Everything is so high nowadays anyway. But I feel very confident in the people
[23:59] that we've got to work on the job. And they said that if they got the job they
[24:04] would start it and finish it. Okay. It's not going to be drug to go to the next
[24:09] job for a couple days with clean up every day. Uh, and I I think we're
[24:15] transferring money out of state out of state library money into
[24:20] line item to do it. So, we it needs to be done. The longer it goes, the more
[24:27] problems and the bid we have is basically on what we see. Really don't
[24:32] think we're going to see a whole lot more. But, you know, as well as I do,
[24:36] what you don't see is going to come bite you sometime. So questions on what I'm
[24:42] just tried to explain or anything, but >> I've been there.
[24:46] » Okay. You you you >> Well, I mean, personally, I've been
[24:49] there. You you think that you're going to do XYZ and you get underneath, you
[24:54] know, when you get in your sophets, your fascia.
[24:56] » So, this is something that's been put off and it
[25:01] we've got the money. We have a lot of money sitting there and we think that
[25:06] this money sitting there will be better used here than sitting there. So it's
[25:11] not going to do anything to the county or anything. So appreciate your support
[25:16] and hope so that we can have it done before winter.
[25:24] I I was hoping for more bids, but I think most people look at I can find an
[25:30] easier job than this one. Okay. So, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
[25:35] Okay.
[25:38] » Any other discussion? Since there's no other discussion, I
[25:43] will entertain a vote. All in favor? >> I.
[25:48] » We have no other items on the agenda. May I get a motion to adjurnn?
[25:55] » Motion. >> May I get a second?
[25:57] » Second. >> All in favor? Uh
[25:59] » uh. See you next