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Thanks everyone for joining us for waiting for one more council member and then we'll get started.
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Well, what do we go ahead and get started?
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Can't, whenever you're ready, let me know, and we can start the meeting.
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Recording in progress.
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Good evening, everyone.
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Welcome to a city council workshop on the Park System Master Plan.
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It is Wednesday, September 2nd.
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The time is 538 PM, and I'm officially calling this meeting to order.
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Clerk, please call the roll.
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Council member, Jay Howard.
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President, Council Member, Young, and McKelip just arrived and Young is on his way.
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Vice Mayor, Senator Mollie, and Mayor Zorne.
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Great.
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Thank you so much.
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All right.
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Well, let's go ahead and get started.
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So tonight, because this is a special meeting, we only have one item on the agenda.
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Normally we do public comment at the beginning of the meeting, but because this is a special
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meeting, we're going to hold public comment to after the presentation.
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So, that way we all get the same information before the public makes comments and the rest of the council ask their questions.
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So, tonight we are going to be receiving a presentation from Gates Studio who worked on our Park System master plan.
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We're going to have a discussion and then we'll provide guidance to staff.
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Just for everyone who's in the room, thank you all so much for coming.
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Friendly reminder, we will not be voting on anything tonight.
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This is just a workshop.
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No decisions will be made so please feel free to give any feedback that you have.
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And we will provide that to staff and to get studio as they go through the next iteration of this document.
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Staff, do you have anything you'd like to say before the meeting starts? Please go ahead.
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Thanks, Mayor. Before we get started, I do want to just make a couple of acknowledgements.
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I mean, first off, this is about 20 years since the last parks system master plan that we did.
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And it's been just right around a year's worth of work to get us to this point tonight.
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So, truly a pivotal moment, and we're really excited to be here.
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I also want to acknowledge the Parks Recreation Marina and Cultural Commission, the PR
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Mac.
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And specifically, it's subcommittee that the Commission delegated the review of the draft
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Park System Master Plan, and that's the chair of Max Cadino, the Vice Chair, Peggy Houston,
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and former longtime chair, Dylan Radke, who's in the audience tonight as well.
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So, may you swim around the room tonight?
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I see Max.
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I don't know if I see Peggy.
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Maybe she's back there.
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But thanks so much to them for all their good work to get us to this point.
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For our project team, I want to acknowledge Lauren, assistant city manager, Joe, or city engineer.
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Debbie Hernandez, our recreation manager and Eve Kernie, our PIO.
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And also of course our SESCO Centennial Festival coordinator extraordinaire after that
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fantastic event on Saturday for gates. Today we've got Casey Casey who's the principal in charge,
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Riley Rodriguez who's the project planner and manager and Rebecca Flanagan who's the outreach coordinator.
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So with that I'll turn it over to Lauren and then we'll get started with the presentation.
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Great. I just want to let the council know in the public we have had ongoing and proactive
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communication with the community throughout the entire process. So Casey will go over that we had
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to robust phases about reach occur early in the early part of the year.
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We're continuing to engage the community.
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We've had a lot of meetings this week.
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We'll talk about with the council in a little bit.
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And we're going to continue to engage the community up the...
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So, as much as we can make sure people are following along, we want to do that. But, you know, here and there, someone falls off. And so, please, just feel free to reach out to us. Council keep us informed if somebody is not in the loop. We want to make sure we're bringing them under the tent. I want to call that specifically that we might have some overlap between tonight's conversation.
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and a conversation we're having later tonight on the regular council agenda regarding hidden
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valley sport courts. So I would just ask the mayor maybe if you know, if hidden valley
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sports courts comes up tonight in this conversation which we fully expect it to and we
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can all look at the map and have a discussion about the future. If there's a more appropriate
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discussion to have later on during general business item, I'll let you manage that. Also,
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what I just want to take stock of here is that we're really at the beginning of the recommendation
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phase. So the plan still, we still have a little bit left to go. We don't plan to bring it for adoption
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until December. So everybody that's here today that's providing input like this is a great time.
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The plan isn't solidified. The council's still taking public input. Things in the plan can still
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and shift. And so we welcome really all of your input and ideas because we're really
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open-minded. We want to create something that's going to be a long-term plan.
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The other element we've learned this in our engagements is this is a vision document.
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We don't have money to build this plan yet, so a lot of times when we're out there engaging
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the community, there's like a fear, maybe, you know, that the thing's going to get built tomorrow,
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the amenity or you know that the change in in someone's community or in a facility is going to happen very quickly.
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This is really just a vision document and hopefully the secondary conversation we have in the new year is how do we fund it.
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So anyways with that I will turn over to Casey to take us through the presentation.
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All
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right, looked like it was on, now it's on, thank you.
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So what we're going to talk through tonight is our outreach efforts to date.
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Some of the findings that we had in those conversations in those online surveys,
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then the recommendations we're making today in terms of parks, open space,
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as well as facilities, and then what are the next steps after this process?
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So we will start with our project background.
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So we always have to have that northern star, that vision statement that keeps us grounded throughout
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our process.
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So what we're trying to do is create this community, community-driven vision that can guide
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the development, enhancement, and long-term stewardship of the city's parks and open space
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over the next 15 years.
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So as Lauren mentioned, this is a long-term guiding document.
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So it's not necessarily incredibly specific on where every trash can will go, but it is clarifying
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And where is it that we want to take the city and our amenities in the next 15 years?
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We really want to focus on building upon the existing infrastructure we already have as
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far as facilities parks and open space, identifying if there are opportunities for new future
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park land and ensuring equitable access to high quality amenities throughout the community
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as well.
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So our vision statement, much more beautiful than I just illustrated, is inspired to cultivate
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a thriving and vibrant parks and recreation system that supports healthy and resilient environments
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and enhances community connection throughout door experiences.
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So where we are right now has a little star where about what we'll call halfway, but a
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little closer to kind of dialing it all in because it's sort of a front-loaded effort.
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So we went out to every single park, took a look at what's working and not working at
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those, had lots of conversations with the community about anything that they feel is working
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or not working. We did that as well with the open space areas and the facilities. Come up with
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that summary of this is what you have now. Then we make our recommendations. So combining
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that assessment we have with the input from the community we come up with some ideas of where
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these parks could go in the future. That we present to you guys in draft form and also presented
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to the Parks and Rec Commission, then we'll take that information back.
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We got back finalized it and this lovely beautiful document that's really meant to be a tool, not just the thing that's on a shelf, but really something we check in on and make sure it's guiding our decisions.
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And then it'll be finalized as your park and open space master plan.
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So we did initiate this effort with a lot of community outreach, as we mentioned, oops, I want to fast.
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So we had about, I think it was 1,600 participants, 1,700 participants in total.
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We had 80 participants in our district community sessions, 75 in our community pop-ups, over
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1,500 responded to the online surveys, and then we had about 25 people in some of our
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focus group meetings.
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So lots of ideas, lots of voices heard, it was really fun to meet people and kind of talk
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about the things that they'd like to see in their parks.
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Across all of those conversations,
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we came up with these themes,
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so the consistent elements we were hearing,
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so those included build upon what we have.
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We want to improve the things that are already there,
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make sure that there's restrooms, lighting,
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and overall sense of good condition and maintenance.
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I want to make sure that the parks feel comfortable,
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and that means easy to move through and navigate.
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They have shades, so it feels comfortable in the weather,
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and also safety and cleanliness.
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The community would like to expand recreation opportunities,
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so things that have family options really would like to see
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some water play, things such as flash paths,
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more bike facilities, pickleball opportunities,
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and other active recreations,
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and maybe to integrate some more youth and teen opportunities.
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In terms of trail, again, the element of safety,
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So just connections, easier access to things, better links between the neighborhoods, the
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parks, the schools, and the open spaces.
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We'd also like to add waterfront park as a community top priority for investment, as well
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as Hidden Lakes Hidden Valley in Nancy Boyd, we're key sites to focus improvements on for
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the community.
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And then really preserve the small town character.
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Keep the charm of Martinez make it continue to feel like the special place that a lot of
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people believe it is today.
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So we did also do some Kim Persons to other local communities,
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as well as national standards, just to see where we stand,
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because this is an opportunity to set the bar as high or as median
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as we would like.
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So when we took a look at the existing conditions for park acreage,
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there's about 3.6 acres per 1,000 residents,
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and the goal is to up that to about five.
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That would be an additional 52 acres of developed park over the next 15 years.
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This is not something we're expecting to plant a flag into tomorrow.
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For park land acreage, we're currently at about 23.5 acres for 1,000 residents.
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The proposed is five, so we're killing it.
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Doing great there.
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Lots of open space, not something that really needs to be a concerted effort in the next 15 years.
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And then as terms of indoor square footage, we have approximately 1.51.
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However, that was not considering some of the least property as well.
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So that number has gone up a little bit to about, or it is 1.15, right, Riley?
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Sorry, thank you, and this was updated, and I thought I had to update it.
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So 1.15 is where we're at currently.
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We previously thought it was lower, but realized there was some least space we weren't
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factoring in as well.
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So this does fall within a national average, and the goal that the team decided to aim
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four is 0.75 to two square feet per residence, so that would be adding about 17,000 plus or minus square feet of indoor recreation opportunity space.
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So these are also guidelines that we use in making the recommendations, where are we trying to go?
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What are we trying to accomplish to really get ourselves competitive within the national standards as well as some of their benchmark communities?
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Can I ask you one really quick question?
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On that table with the increased space,
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I know that part of this discussion tonight
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is going to be with respect to the Senior Center,
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Community Center, the Qantas building.
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You know, these are all spaces that currently exist
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and are taken into consideration,
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and we're not going to get more credit if we program it more.
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This the square foot per resident won't change if we...
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It's based on an architectural footprint.
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Okay, so a lot of the conversation will probably be having is about optimizing that square footage rather than, yeah, increasing.
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Okay, thank you absolutely.
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Thank you, good point.
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I also may have gone too quickly some of the amenities that we're suggesting to align better with some of the demands of the community.
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As I mentioned briefly, Pickleball, Reservable picnic areas, more dog park spaces, multi-use fields,
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splash pad, water play, all wheels track skate park, walking biking, connectivity in the trails and shade.
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Fun, also some really achievable improvements. So, where we are going? This leads us to our recommendations. So, when we put together our document, we do system-wide. So, across parks, facilities, and recreation, these are some of our recommendations, high-level. Then we might do some high-level across all parks, some high-level across all facilities, and some high-level across recreation, and then specific to each site and facilities.
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You see, you might hear me say the same thing about 16 times.
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I apologize in advance, but they are consistent across parks,
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open space, and recreation.
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So as I have already mentioned, we'd like to renovate
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and upgrade projects that we're targeting
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repair of existing amenities.
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So not necessarily, you know, tearing things to the ground
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and starting over, but improving upon what we already have.
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We'd like to add new recreation opportunities.
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And we'd like to explore expanding some of the things
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the uses we have already, so partnerships, joint use agreements, looking for additional
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land if it's an opportunity and better utilizing the existing facilities.
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Some of our high-level park recommendations include renovating and upgrading themes as
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well, so making sure that the pathways are safe and accessible, upgrading any play areas that
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are out of date or lack the latest safety and accessibility, we want to make sure that things
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are ADA compliant in terms of site furniture and ability to move through the space, enhance
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the circulation, parking opportunities, add shade, weather that structures, or trees,
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and then renovate the bathrooms at Mountain View and Waterfront Parks.
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The new recreations we're considering adding in our recommendations right now are the splash
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pad or some kind of water play feature at Hidden Valley Park, the all wheels track at Waterfront
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park, a jump line skills course at Hidden Valley open space, outdoor pickle ball at Waterfront
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Park, the dog park, potentially golden hills, but we've had some discussions about switching
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that to Hidden Valley, Pine Meadow or Waterfront, and Community Gardens at the Hidden Valley
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courts in the linear park.
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And then we also wanted to honor that expand and explore, so revisiting some joint use agreements
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there are some limited ones now, but it's not really for reoccurring or any intensive
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use. We want to look for opportunities to desigly park percentage per unit, so future
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developments are required to contribute to that park land use within the community, explore
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repurposing underutilized sites, and then we also like the idea of conducting a master plan
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process for the downtown Creekwalk, so that the Creek area is more accessible to the community,
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it really improves the downtown look and feel. So I will pause before I move into recommendations
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for open space. Any questions on the parks, high level or more specific recommendations and I also
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have hidden slides for each park if there's one you guys want to see as well. Just close your eyes
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while I'm maniacally click through them. I'm so sorry I didn't prep the council at all for this
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PowerPoint. So you have recommendations for, can you remind me of which sections and that
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will be stopping after each? So it's parks, parks, open space, and facilities. So this
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is just the parks. So if you have any questions, we can stop here in ask questions or we
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can just let her keep going, yep, through each of these sections. How would you guys like
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to do it? I want to listen to all of it first before you ask questions? You know, okay, okay.
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You're welcome. Thank you. Well, right on through. Thank you. All right.
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So then we take a look at open space, again, high-level recommendations.
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We'd love to formalize the trail networks.
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Have better signage and wave-finding,
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so people know where these trails are.
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Maybe the level of difficulty, how long they are.
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We'd love to enhance the safety and accessibility,
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so that may mean better visibility.
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Places where people know that they can park,
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or walk, or get to mitigate erosion that's happening,
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strengthen habitat, protection, and ecological restoration.
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Some of the things we'd like to expand and explore with our open space is linking multiple
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open space areas, creating not just an open space within itself, but a greater green
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network.
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And that can include tying into some of the regional trails.
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We'd love to look into adding new trails, continue partnerships with the regional agencies,
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an opportunity tight sites we'd like to explore the pleasant view, nope, no open space, and
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a new pocket park trailhead at the Calvary Drive that opens space area there as well.
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And then last but not least, we took a look at facilities.
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So some of our recommendations there, a bit of a theme, once again, upgrade to have ADA
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compliance.
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We want to make sure the facilities are in shape to host events, classes, meetings.
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The new things we would like to explore are multi-purpose rooms, so it can accommodate different uses, different generations, maybe different hours as well.
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Add food truck parking and rentable cabanas at the Rankin Aquatic Center and the space between the baseball field area and the pool area.
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And then we love the idea of enhancing the Coannas Youth Center inside and outside, so it could also be a rentable public space.
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We'd also like to expand and explore here some joint use agreements.
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So again, maybe with the school, finding opportunities to have shared uses of spaces in the
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income and hours. Potentially acquire the parcel adjacent to the Mountain View Park to convert
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into a new community facility, long-term goal. And then ideally add some rental, we dub them club houses
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to the following parks, which would include Hidden Valley Anne-Ranken.
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And I'm going to pass it over
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to Lauren, to discuss some of our stakeholder conversation.
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So here's a list on the screen of stakeholders.
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We've recently engaged.
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So those are folks that we actually walk through
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these facility recommendations with
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and park recommendations with.
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In a second here, Casey will talk about the commission,
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but I just want to take note of the other groups here.
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We met with myself in the project team
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at with the Senior Club Board on Monday.
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It was one of their monthly membership meetings.
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I want to highlight, we actually have their president in the room here today, so thank you for making it.
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We went through, you know, sort of the, the diagnosis of what could be improved in the building.
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There's a lot of ADA issues that we want to tend to might be a top priority.
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It's been exciting to hear from our senior club board on a couple of fronts.
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One is that they want to be able to welcome new groups into the building.
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So that's very exciting.
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They understand that there's opportunities at nights and weekends,
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but in order to bring more folks into the room,
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we have to renovate the building.
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Get the building ready for that.
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There's also opportunities we've heard
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from the Senior Club Board of where can we share costs?
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So that's very exciting.
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In fact, they're helping us to rebuild the decking
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in the front of the building right now.
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But there's potential opportunity in the future
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when this plan is done, is what else can we build together?
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Same with the Coanis Club, we met with them yesterday, and I do want to call out that we
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actually had the mayor at the senior club meeting and Jay and the mayor at the Coanis
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Board meeting. As likewise, we went through the building needs and the building opportunities
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and in both conversations we talked to about opportunities to rent the space out and
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some new revenue into the city. I want to take note that there, it's very similar in terms of
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there already offering and have already carried out a lot of investment in the building. So again,
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these are groups that want to see building improvement and are willing to put some money forward towards that.
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Where the pool is concerned,
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where the pool is concerned, we have, I would say our predominant
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user group is the Martinez community swim team.
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We have a lease agreement that gets approved every single year.
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They use it April through October.
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And they get heavy hours at the pool for a very low cost.
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But they are very important.
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Price, you know, group to the community.
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We've had a partnership with them for a long time.
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When Debbie and her team went over the recommendations and the plan with them.
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They were very excited, you'll see those.
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I know we'll talk through them, but like bleachers, better clocks, better screens, you know,
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just bringing it into the 21st century.
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And again, we think there's an appetite to share costs on some of those improvements in the
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future.
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I'll note that one of our smaller stakeholder groups but loud and vocal is our lap swimmers.
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So we only have about 25 lap swimmers that tend to come pretty routinely, but they really take
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that activity serious and without it, you know, it's part of their health, it's part of their
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health process. So we didn't gauge lap swimmers and they too were very excited about the potential.
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So, again, no big red flags, you know, we did hear from the senior club board like,
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how about building a new building, you know, did we ever think about that? But overall, we heard lots of good feedback and we're very happy that everybody's on board.
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Over to you for the commission. Yes. So we got to have a presentation with the Parks and Rec Commission. Got some great feedback. They supported the idea of the Creek Walk Master Plan. We're excited about re-invigorating the downtown area.
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Consider staffing needs for additional space and amenities. So what would it mean in terms of staff if we were to add some of these extra spaces? They supported adding waterplay, but did have concerns for vandalism and safety after hours.
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There was support for additional signage and open space to help with the navigation and
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way-finding that we'd like to pinpoint areas where the citywide connections can occur
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between the parks and open spaces, consider additional spaces for the recreational joint
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use opportunities like we mentioned, support implementing disc golf as an affordable and accessible
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asset in Martinez.
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There is a preference to keep the skate park and the all wheels separate, also to preserve
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open space between hidden lakes and hidden valley parks. And then as I mentioned, consider
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removing the dog park from Golden Hills Park and relocating it elsewhere.
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So with that,
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we do want to continue to hear from folks. We're not at the point where it's yet pencils down.
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So the more input we get, comments, questions, concerns is really helpful. So that we're making sure
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the document we ultimately come forward with is useful and easy to read and takes us in the
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working on the implementation strategy, which is where we take these recommendations we've given
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and help come up with ideas for how they can be prioritized and implemented. And then our goal
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is to have that draft master plan ready by the end of this year to come and present it to you guys again.
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Thank you. Thank you very much. All right. So why don't we do this? Let's do some just basic
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questions that we might have. We have a lot of people in the room tonight. So I'd love to hear from
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members of the public. And then after we hear from the public we can bring it back to council for other, you know, general piece of feedback. Does that work for everybody?
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All right, so to kick it off, does anyone have any specific questions for Casey on this plan that they seem so far?
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If it's a short comment, that's yeah.
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I really appreciate this report and I really appreciate, I think the most is bringing everybody into the full, you know,
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because you start talking about our parks
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and people get excited, obviously.
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We got a lot of stakeholders here.
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And I think it's really important
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that we acknowledge the fact
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that some of the revitalization,
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the number one thing is a bathroom, right?
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Because wherever I go,
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that's what everybody wants to talk about.
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What's going on, especially at the Bautjibalk court?
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So that is one of my big pet peeves
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And then just a fun comment, I would love to see the foe zone brought in from the sesquence and tenial party for any events that we can come up with.
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Because those kids were having fun and adults.
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So fun, but that's all I got.
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Just a quick aside, the reason that we know about the foam parties is that Debbie's team offers it to the campers, right?
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at Beaver Creek Camp throughout the summer.
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So I want to update.
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So I think you have to become a Beaver Creek camper in order to get, sorry.
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Any other questions or comments anyone wants to make?
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Go ahead to be.
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Yeah.
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Just go quick for a stop.
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Thank you for the report and thank you for all the work that you put into it and for engaging
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the community and getting all the input over many months.
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And I'm sure there was a lot as I could see.
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I just want to kind of say the same thing that Jay had mentioned about bathrooms, and I want
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to make sure that safety and security is where important to me, so I want to make sure
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that those things, anything that deals with safety or security of the people utilizing
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these facilities, utilizing the buildings, and definitely the open space.
[39:17]
I want to thank you for adding, you've mentioned it a couple of times, considering relocating
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the potential dog park at Golden Hills Park to another location that might be a better fit for that type of
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amenity. I know that over the years there's been many studies done in Martinez that to that I'm
[39:37]
aware of over the past like 15 to 20 years and in some even more recent where we've looked at
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locations for dog parks and that had never been one that had been previously identified in a
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that were identified, one of which was nearer hidden, hidden lakes, park as a potential place and another in a...
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A retaining basin that had its own challenges. So there's some other locations that have been identified over the years that I don't know if you've had access to those reports to evaluate the historical research that had gone on around dog parks. And it was pretty extensive.
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So I just want to throw that in.
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Thank you.
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So I have a couple of questions and some comments as well.
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I noted, and forgive me if I may have missed it, is the draft that we're looking at tonight?
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Is it, does it speak to Pine Medal Park in any way, shape or form, or is that perhaps I might have missed it?
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I know that we had previously had a blueprint, if you will, for what phases, what we envision phases two and three to potentially look like,
[40:57]
but I know we've also had some recent discussions about what can be done with like the upper,
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So it's just wondering if we could maybe just speak to what the recommendations were for
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Pine Middle Park and how that aligns with what the Council had previously approved as
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far as there was a blueprint, if you will, although it's not set in stone, but it's kind
[41:29]
like what we, what we're envisioning.
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So can you speak briefly to that?
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Yep, I was going to pull it up so we can all
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perfect.
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I was going to say it's L17 on attachment one.
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Sorry, just a moment.
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So just while I'm getting that sorted, what we've
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done in our document is more obvious to those of you who can
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see the graphic is anything that's existing.
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We identify in anything that we're proposing is colored, right?
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So the proposals that we have made for improvements
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for the parks are things that were identified as priorities per the community and we do take
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into consideration the existing conditions of the site, the access, the adjacent neighborhood,
[42:08]
and really try to make the distribution of amenities throughout the community equitable as much
[42:14]
as possible. So those are the factors that led to our recommendation shown on the screen today.
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We have heard some other suggestions for ideas within the open space as well.
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So, since we're here looking at this, so you have dog park listed here on Pine Middle Park.
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But I thought we were looking at your recommendation was Golden Hills Park, or is this like a potential number two site that is being that we may want to consider?
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Yes, there's more than one dog park.
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I recommend it.
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Got it.
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And talk to me a little bit about the thinking behind trying to bring in more shade to
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this part.
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Because that is a one thing that we are clearly lacking at this point and we have planted
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some trees but admittedly it's going to take some time for those trees to mature.
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So what do we do in the interim?
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Do you have any recommendations surrounding that?
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Yes.
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that we do propose a new shade structure now.
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So that is something that is recommended.
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It's a little blue square.
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You can see that we wanted it nearby,
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the existing picnic-ish area and near the future play.
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So that people have shade if they're hanging out
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or near the play so they can observe.
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So the spectator area.
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And then we also have high level recommendations
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for additional trees where it's reasonable.
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So if in when future implementations of this part come into play,
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that's a general ad trees where it makes sense where we have water
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where it's suitable for the site.
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So the immediate shade opportunity will be the structure
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and then longer term is trees.
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It's the trees. Okay. Thank you for that clarification.
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Okay. So then staying in District 3.
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So I just want to be clear, since we brought up the dog park,
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I just want to go on the record and say I absolutely do not support a dog park at Golden
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Hills Park.
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Period.
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I don't believe it's the right site, and I don't based on the feedback we've gotten from
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residents.
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They don't think it's appropriate either, but the question is, do you know, where South
[44:31]
of four could we potentially bring a dog park?
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And I have actually, and I see some of my former colleagues
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on the PR Mac are here in the audience tonight.
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Hello, Dylan.
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I do believe that strong consideration ought
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to be given to bringing one to Hidden Valley Park.
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And I believe we may have an image-medium assistant
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city manager, do you happen to have that?
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And I just wanted to kind of put that out.
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There are four, everyone's consideration. But there is a spot there, which I don't know if it has been evaluated in some of the earlier studies that council member McKillup alluded to. It may very well have been, but I just wanted to put it back up there. Since I felt like this was a timely opportunity. So while the clerk is bringing that up, are we looking at, yes, this is Hidden Valley Park.
[45:30]
So, I wanted to just point to the area where on this map where it says NFC, that open space right there.
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It's pretty much dead all year round.
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There's nothing there except weeds and tall grasses.
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It just sits there.
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And so, that spot in particular, I feel is appealing because number one, there's no nearby residences there.
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Number two, there's multiple access points because it connects to the trails that come up from the lake, which is all those residences around there, right?
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And also has a access point from Beachwood Drive as well, in addition to the access point from the main parking lot.
[46:14]
Now, admittedly, I'm not a dog owner myself, but I have had an opportunity to just sort of informally engage with dog owners during my routine walks down there.
[46:24]
I've asked him, candidly, hey, would you support a dog park on the site?
[46:30]
And unequivocally, everybody said yes.
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The only thing was just making sure that there was enough separation to, from between large,
[46:39]
larger dogs and smaller dogs to prevent any sort of conflicts like that.
[46:43]
So I feel like this is one site which merits some serious consideration, and I've said this
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from all the way going back on my time
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on the Parks and Rec Commission.
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And so I know that a lot of folks are using pass on no goal
[47:00]
is that lifts out the floor in nearby Pleasant Hill.
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But we have an opportunity,
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if we are looking for an opportunity site,
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I feel like this is one that ought to be looked at.
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Debbie, did you have any feedback?
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I can just jump in on that.
[47:16]
So this site isn't the one that was considered,
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but it's certainly worth considering.
[47:22]
The site that was historically considered was near the baseball field at Hidden Lakes Park.
[47:31]
So there was another photo, I'm not sure where that exists.
[47:35]
Right now, it's designated as a potential overflow parking lot.
[47:39]
But that was a site that was considered to be for a potential dog park.
[47:44]
There would be offsite parking and people would like, well,
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there was a potential to add a parking lot.
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This would be on, let's see, what is that?
[47:54]
Morello, something.
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So it would be a long Morello.
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I don't know what, it would be nice if we could pull that up.
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Hold up, hidden, hidden, hidden.
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Yeah, just so that people can see,
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there is an image in one of the handouts, L6.
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OK, there it is.
[48:14]
OK, so that area right now that's designated
[48:16]
as an overflow parking for the other park baseball in soccer. That area at one time was
[48:23]
entertained as being a dog park, what they would do would be at a parking lot in that space.
[48:30]
And then larger than just that designated area, that little corner area would be expanded
[48:35]
and potentially that was a identified location for a potential dog park. So just for some,
[48:42]
in case someone is not aware that that was looked at at one time.
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So can I ask the question because a dog park was not proposed at hit-and-lake's or hit-and-value
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is there a reason why it wasn't, I'm seeing nods, would you mind coming to the microphone
[48:59]
and just explaining why it was not considered?
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Because you did add dog parks in quite a few parks, so just wanted to speak to his request
[49:06]
is there reason why it wasn't included?
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Good evening council members.
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Thank you for having me here tonight.
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I'm sure.
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Thank you.
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So yes, that was considered,
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since there's so many amenities already
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at Hidden Lakes and Hidden Valley,
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as well as limited parking.
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I know there's a lot of parking issues there,
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and we're already adding a bigger playground,
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slash pad and improved athletic amenities
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and bigger picnic areas.
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This would overflow the park area.
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And so adding a dog park was another extension of adding more people, more parking, and so it's a designation of that and the park or the dog parks throughout our options, so we're not recommending that all of those be instituted into the city, but as options of where it can go.
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So,
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I hear what you're saying.
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I envision what you're saying, but this park is pretty large, and I think that you're talking about the park along the center that has the amenity proposed for a water amenity, which is in a different location. It's on the other side of the park. This is on Morello, which is not near where the additional amenities would have been added, so they're like two separate parallel roads, but the parks in between, so they're in different locations.
[50:28]
So I don't know if that, that, that, that, that help me to identify why there wasn't one identified in this area.
[50:36]
Yes. So since there, it's so much already happening at hidden lakes and there's already such a big parking issue that exists currently.
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We knew that had to be solved. And since a lot of people are parking along, we're yellow.
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We figured if you can use that overflow area, create a nice path into the park. It's a lot easier for baseball people to use that.
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and then utilize the more existing parking lot for the soccer and the playground that would
[51:01]
be larger there as well as putting in or I were keeping the basketball court as well and
[51:06]
then extending the picnic areas there. And then you utilize and then since there is connection
[51:10]
to hit in valley we figured having a splash pad there and other amenities that would equate to
[51:17]
more people wanting to park there but since there's easy access from that overflow they can then
[51:21]
realize that then go. Okay. In the interest of time, can I have the two of you reach out to them
[51:28]
and maybe have a dog park discussion offline? It's already 615 and I want to make sure the public has a
[51:33]
chance for a fight. I would like to go on the record that I support removing the dog park from
[51:38]
Golden Hills as well. Okay. Thank you. I think that has become a unanimous recommendation. Yes.
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And we even receive multiple public comments on it today. So. May I have just 30 seconds for
[51:51]
promise just 30 seconds. 31 and I'm okay. All right, sounds good. I agree. I appreciate the inclusion
[51:56]
of the overflow parking. It's a strong recognition of the fact that we do have parking challenges.
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I hadn't lakes park in particular many years ago, you know, baseball and soccer had distinct
[52:07]
seasons. Now, a lot of these sports run year round. And so it's a very common that all the sports
[52:13]
fields will be utilized at the same time. So I do appreciate the fact that there was some recognition
[52:17]
for that, and I strongly do support having some type of overflow parking there, which I would
[52:23]
also add would also provide easy access to a dog park at Hiddemellie.
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So, yes.
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Time.
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Perfect.
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Thank you.
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All right.
[52:32]
Thank you very much for this report.
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I want to open this up to public comment.
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I want to let everybody know as a reminder that there were a lot of attachments.
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And so, in attachment one, every single one of the parks is listed with each one of
[52:47]
recommendation. So if you do have a comment about a particular park, please make sure to
[52:53]
say it into the microphone and we'll try to have the clerk bring up that park as you're
[52:56]
talking, if that works for you. And that applies for council as well when we come back afterwards.
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Okay, let's see. Yeah. All right. Well, let's start with Beth. Is this Maloney? Come on
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up.
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Um, actually, why don't you speak here in the middle?
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I'm sorry, Casey, that one's for you and that way you can always respond to people as needed.
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Yeah, perfect.
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Um, as soon as you start talking, it's up there on the screen.
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The last to be a voice for us and for our neighbors unable to attend this meeting, who are in full
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agreement with this being
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the one compared to another, but other parts, it was a great one.
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That this was not a good place for a dog park.
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Please know we do not want a dog park at Golden Hills Park.
[54:28]
It's an inappropriate place for a dog park and I know many of us have written as such.
[54:33]
Again, it's extreme the close to quiet residential subdivisions, kids play at this park,
[54:37]
and there are people walking a piece throughout this park.
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Sometimes there are soccer games in the green grassy area.
[54:43]
There's tennis court.
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It's really well used for all these activities which are appropriate for the small park.
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And we already have a dog park and there's one nearby at Golden Hills in Pleasant Hill.
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That's a no go.
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When we purchased our homes in this lovely subdivision, we did so with the awareness.
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That we had a beautiful park in our neighborhood and we were all aware of the uses of this park. None of which included a terribly noisy and potentially dangerous dog park. I would say it's safe to say that most people would not request or welcome a dog park to be introduced to their neighborhood bringing loud barking to their previously peaceful backyard family gatherings.
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Norwood families who use this park often with their little ones welcome lots of dogs coming in going as encounters are sure to happen and some of those encounters may not end well.
[55:24]
And lastly, from what I understand Martinez follows the Contacosta County Noisy Animal
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Ordnance.
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And this truly puts an exclamation point in this topic and acknowledges that the city of
[55:33]
Martinez recognizes that barking dogs are a nuisance.
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For the Contacosta County Animals website, which refers to the ordinance, a noisy animal
[55:41]
can be frustrating for neighbors.
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Under the Contacosta County Noisy Animal Ordnance Code Section 416-12.202, which, again,
[55:49]
I understand Martinez relies upon its unlawful to have an animal that makes noise for an extended
[55:53]
period of time, and the noise disturbs any person at any time day or night. So to distill
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this ordinance down, the pertinent part of it is no person may own possess harbor control
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or keep on any premises of dog barking or other noisy animal. With respect for your commitment
[56:09]
and for the time you put into making our beloved Martinez such a wonderful place to live, I thank
[56:14]
you all very much for allowing me to read these comments and I'm sorry again to be so rapid
[56:18]
fire with this but I wanted to get it all in. And did I? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great job.
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Now you can go to Bachi. Thank you. Yeah. Now you can go to Bachi. You'll just miss the first
[56:30]
game. That's okay. I just want to point out that the council has already voiced their opposition
[56:37]
and or maybe the request to remove that recommendation out of the park system master plan.
[56:43]
So if anybody wants to provide comments, you're welcome to talk about something else because
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So there's unlikely that it's going to make it through to the next iteration with a dog
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park ahead of the flicks.
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Or I'm sorry.
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Golden Hills.
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And I can confirm that as a district for representative.
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All right.
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Next up is Kathy Fitzgerald, who I believe wrote down, I want to talk about a dog park at
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Golden Hills Park.
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So you're welcome to say whatever you like.
[57:10]
I'm going to tell you about my life.
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No.
[57:12]
Okay.
[57:13]
No, no.
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You got a 3D name.
[57:15]
Thank you so much.
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for allowing public comment on this. My name is Kathy Fitzgerald and I'm here tonight to
[57:22]
voice my opposition to the proposed plan to create a dog particle in Hills. I was heartened to
[57:28]
see in both the slide on the plans that there was then another option and certainly have your vote
[57:35]
voiced. Again, made me feel like what the heck I'm doing here, but then also thank you so much for
[57:43]
considering this. But so that you know, my husband and I moved to Quail Creek over 45 years
[57:50]
ago with our growing family. And the small multi-use park that was just a block away from
[57:56]
our home was a huge draw for us and many families that have moved in since agree. Birthday
[58:03]
parties, trichen bike rides, playground play dates, park and rick soccer practices and games,
[58:09]
Community picnics and so much more were enjoyed by my children at that park and now I bear witness to my grandchildren making those same memory as the Golden Hills
[58:20]
Please note that the folk here tonight speaking in opposition to the dog park must not be written off
[58:26]
And thank you for because I think they're not
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Nimbiasc
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Resisters of change
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We are not we embrace change when it makes sense and it is the best interest of the community
[58:37]
But taking the one community part in Martinez with a clubhouse and playgrounds and trails and green spaces for young and old in our area and transforming it to a very different environment by adding a dog park that would serve just a subset of that community makes no sense to us.
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We request that the plan be vacated.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
[59:04]
All right. Next up is Andrea Dwyer.
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Hello, my name is Andrea Dwyer. I am here. First, thank you for inviting tonight on
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your recommendation manager invited us this evening. I would love just for marketing. It sounds
[59:27]
like we're in the middle of this plan. If there was maybe some additional signage behind
[59:32]
future workshops and things at the parks, you guys did something in home and mayors, but
[59:37]
we're constantly at the parks and to see maybe some A-frames or signs with the QR codes for
[59:43]
surveys or future meetings that you might have that would be really helpful to people who are
[59:47]
there. Mail is not always something that we always review. Also, as much as people are opposing
[59:55]
the dog park egg golden hills, I equally feel the same way.
[1:00:00]
About a dog park in general for Pine Meadow, which is the neighborhood park, which we live at.
[1:00:06]
That plan that we saw this evening was very different than the plans that were there previously.
[1:00:13]
There was very a lot of conversations with the neighbors in Pine Meadow and Council to see something up there so vastly different than what we were sold.
[1:00:21]
When we purchased our home there, what we had paid Miller's for to go into that park is very different than what we saw on the screen this evening.
[1:00:30]
I also just want to reference in regards to these parks and where we're going to develop them into.
[1:00:35]
Not seeing the shade structures as a priority, this past two summers ago last summer.
[1:00:41]
The city was able to purchase and put in some temporary umbrellas and after a couple of ambulance calls for kids, which was great.
[1:00:50]
I don't know why they went there this past summer, but they weren't.
[1:00:53]
So maybe some permanency behind those shade structures would be ideal.
[1:00:56]
I do know that there was a cost, but there was a savings of some sort that of not
[1:01:02]
doing to upper part of that park.
[1:01:04]
So I'd love to see a little bit more conversation and so glad in the beginning this isn't
[1:01:08]
to be managed or referenced.
[1:01:09]
You weren't fully done with this process and we see that tonight, but Pine Meadow definitely
[1:01:13]
needs is not just a pocket park that is a very large park that people from all over
[1:01:18]
visit. We see them constantly. We need fences over there. That fence area still the non-existent
[1:01:26]
and the closeness that is to those driveways and to people speeding over there that's happening.
[1:01:31]
So let's look at safety while we're looking at these parks, along with the amenities. I love
[1:01:35]
amenities. I love water parks. I'm all for all those things if they make money for the city.
[1:01:39]
But at the same time we need that safety piece too. And I don't really feel like many of those
[1:01:44]
points were brought up tonight surrounding the safety as well as those beautiful amenities
[1:01:48]
that gates and it says he's had provided. So thank you.
[1:01:55]
Thank you. All right, Greg Dwyer.
[1:02:03]
Thank you. Good evening mayor, vice mayor, council staff and residents. First and foremost,
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I want to applaud you for your community engagement. I appreciate the outreach that the city is made in
[1:02:17]
to hear from residents, so I applaud the city and those efforts.
[1:02:23]
The only really request or concern that I would have as a resident, and I love new amenities,
[1:02:28]
I love facility improvements, all those things are great, but far too often cities overlook
[1:02:33]
staffing capacities, and they don't factor in the budget.
[1:02:38]
The extra budget would take to maintain and properly maintain and safely maintain these
[1:02:42]
facilities. So I would implore you to triple check with your public works department to ensure
[1:02:49]
that there is enough staffing capacity in that budget to properly maintain these facilities.
[1:02:54]
So there's nothing more frustrating. As either a public servant or as a resident to come in and
[1:03:01]
have the dirty restrooms or have faultoring equipment or you know, lapidated amenities.
[1:03:08]
So I would just caution that to be factored into the equation whether you scale back some projects just set aside enough
[1:03:16]
Consistent budget
[1:03:18]
Whether it's contracted out as well if I know a lot of times these things are you know attached to retirement accounts and purrs and all these other things and adding a full-time
[1:03:26]
staff members not in the cards
[1:03:27]
then then maybe you know
[1:03:30]
Contract out that that restroom cleaning or or something like that
[1:03:34]
That's it and thank you again for your efforts appreciate you
[1:03:36]
Thank you, before we go to the next one, Casey, I wanted to ask you, we actually received
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that comment from a couple of members of the public regarding maintenance and staffing capacity.
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Do we have this section in the master plan right now talking about maintenance or any recommendations for maintenance?
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We do.
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Whenever we make recommendations for the facilities or the parks will also include a cost estimate for what it would mean to implement the design
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And then we have estimates for the level of maintenance
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and investment of staff time as well.
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It's high level because again, we don't know,
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certainly the final finishes of everything,
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but it's kind of an order of magnitude.
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Okay, estimate.
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Great, great.
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Thank you, I'm glad to hear that it's in it.
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I hadn't seen it, and I wanted to make sure that we
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didn't miss that in the conversation.
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So great, thank you.
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Okay, next up, Alison Harrington.
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Good evening.
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Good evening, thank you.
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I wasn't planning on speaking this evening,
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But I was hearing, I saw the mention of the dog park in Link's park and I just as a dog owner
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of two large dogs who love children, but the children may not always love dogs.
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Walking a dog through a play area, I don't think is very respectful to those who aren't dog owners.
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I love dogs. There are lots of people who don't like having dogs in their neighborhood.
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And I don't think it'd be just if you just keep that in mind when you're planning it.
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We don't want to path to walk our dogs by, you know, maybe little kids or families and make them uncomfortable. That's not our intent. So just, if that could be just be mindful in the future and planning that's all I ask. Thank you.
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Yeah, that's great comment. Thanks. Next up, Katie Colbert.
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I just saw you.
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There you are. Katie, you want to come up?
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Good evening.
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I always have to bring it down.
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Good evening, my name is Katie Colbus, and I am here on behalf of Pang, Palm Avenue and
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Neighborhood Group.
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And I want to begin by saying first that our compassion goes to all the students' teachers,
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administrators, the district office, for the incident in El Hamber High School today.
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we are so grateful that it was a false alarm and everyone is safe.
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I am here to introduce an active petition that has so far gained 62 signatures.
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And I have copies here to give to you, which I will give to you after I start.
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Would you mind speaking a little closer and microphone?
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Oh sure. I'll give you, oh that's a lot better than that.
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Okay, I will give you copies of the petition as soon as I've been able to speak to you.
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The essential goal of this petition is for paying Martinez City Council in Martinez Unified School District
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to come together and find alternatives acceptable to all that eliminate the dangerous and hazardous
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spring of the herbicides on the property, below and around, John, your elementary, including
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the playground, the open space and the backyards of our community.
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Please read the petition carefully and consider how we can come together to find and compromise
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the alternatives to this unacceptable practice.
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Thank you.
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And you can hand them to the clerk and she'll get them to us.
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Tyler Hardy.
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All right.
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Just generally I just wanted to give, I guess, a high level recommendation that the facilities
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and the amenities that we're proposing here match what the residents are asking for.
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And kind of the needs around it.
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So I think the Hidden Valley Sports Court,
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great example where tennis was never quite an issue.
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Pickleball was more divisive.
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District 3 has the most residents,
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the highest proportion of residents under 18.
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I think that's a great place to focus the amenities
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that folks under 18 would appreciate.
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And the parents of those children.
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I think things like playgrounds, rope course,
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water features, make a ton of sense in District 3
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for those reasons.
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I also think when we talk about matching the needs of residents
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and the ones of residents,
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I think a dog park is a great example of this.
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If you're building a dog park, where people are not,
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those people by and large are not going to move to that park.
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They're good to keep going where they are.
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And they'll just be off-leash at places like
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Kin Valley and Hidden Lakes, where we've had issues.
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We have kids, we go to Hidden Valley often.
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I'd rather have those off-leash dogs in a fence space,
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rather than roaming around on the same field with children,
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even if they're good dogs.
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So instead of trying to move people and activities around,
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I'm hoping that the recommendations will reflect
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that we're meeting people where they already are
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for better for worse hidden valley
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and hidden lakes is a great place for a dog park.
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And I think some of the recommendations make a lot of sense there
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given the demographics of that area.
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I'd love to see programming up those parks also match the community
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so more movie nights in places like Hidden Valley
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or Pine Meadows, I think that would be great
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given the young demographic there.
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I would love to focus on walking and biking trail connectivity across the city.
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Where we are in District 3, I know the lesser degree of District 4.
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It's a lot easier to get to pleasant hill and do activities there, go shopping there, then
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it is for us to get to downtown Martinez.
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I think both the safety concern and just general connectivity.
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So if you
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We can just have more ways for people who aren't in a vehicle to get to central Martinez from
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those southern areas of the city. I think it would be great both for recreation and just
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getting more people into Martinez rather than going somewhere like Concordor Pleasant Hill.
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Yeah, I just want to say make sure that we match the needs and the requests of the community and
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kind of meet people where they're at. So thank you.
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And citizens are just leaned over and reminded me that this year in September, well, it is September
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now. The outdoor movie in the park is actually going to be at Hidden Valley this year.
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And last summer it was in, it was at Nancy Boyd and so this year it's at Hidden Valley.
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So you got your wish before you could ask for it. Let's see, Dylan Rackett.
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Good evening, mayors or members of the city council. I have, obviously I went through all these reports.
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There's some very specific comments about parks, but I'll use that for all right.
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Those comments and I don't need to take up your time with that.
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My real question or comment tonight is regarding the joint use agreements as identified in the master plan.
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It seems to be pretty limited only to the school district.
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And I wanted to make sure that the master plan reflects potentially other entities that we could enter into joint use agreements with.
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And specifically in my mind is one with a contract cost of water district.
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We have a Martinez Reservoir in town which could be kind of a scaled back or smaller
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version of Control Nomma or even Lafayette Reservoir, which are drinking water reservoirs
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that are managed and owned by the water district, but are actually the recreation amenities
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actually managed by East spiritual parts or some other entity.
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I think that would lend itself an opportunity for the city to expand park use, expand facilities
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with something that's already exists in town.
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So that's one of the things I wanted to make sure
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the master plane actually reflects.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Brian Gagnon, do I pronounce your name correctly?
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I don't have any specific comments on the plan as a whole.
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I'm just really here to work with the city.
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I remember Debbie, in the past on using fields for various, or mostly on various, but soccer
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uses.
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I just wanted to advocate for that inclusion in the plan, and also to touch on some of the maintenance
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concerns, is that making sure that that's factored into that, as I think in the past, we've
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used facilities throughout the city, and it's kind of ticked down the last several years,
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as some of them have become less playable.
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So I just wanted to make sure that that's something
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that is factored into the redevelopment plans.
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And then also suggest that there's organizations
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that will happily pay for the use and time on these fields.
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And would also gladly work with the city
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in the redevelopment of some of the existing facilities.
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And if there was a way to make that happen,
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either in that necessarily redeveloping new space
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or developing new spaces, but just bringing spaces that currently exist back into a level of
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playability from a safety standpoint in, like, to have the opportunity to explore those possibilities.
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And then, also, see if there's a way to set up meetings to get on that list of outside users
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and have that if we could figure out a way to do that.
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Since you still have a minute and a half, can you clarify what organization are you associated with?
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So I'm the field coordinator for PHMSA,
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it's a local AYSO use softwareization,
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and then also the core program,
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and then it's Mount Diablo Mustang,
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is the competitive program.
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So right now we use hidden lakes pretty much all the time,
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and I think if anyone goes over by it,
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I think everyone in the community uses it.
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I think we're a big issue with it,
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is just getting people to move off the field
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in their permitted times,
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because it's a great facility,
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and people want to use it all the time.
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And I think part of that is that other facilities have kind of become less useful and
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usable.
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So it's really just that we could return those to their previous levels of usability.
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Great.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I just am checking really quickly as you're talking, okay.
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So the one of the areas that I think has been identified for soccer is down at the
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Martin is waterfront and it's L-22 if any
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I want to follow along. And it doesn't call soccer out specifically in this particular one. It just says athletic fields to be formalized, consider synthetic turf, multi-use field.
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So I just want to acknowledge that that's, we've used the word soccer before, but yeah, thank you for the comment.
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Okay. Last one is Ben Iams?
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You got it right. Iams was wrong in my first license, so thank you for that. My name's Ben Iams. I'm also with PHMSA.
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And here to sort of echo what Brian was talking about with fields.
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So there are three sides that are sort of relevant to PHMSA and multi-use fields in general.
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One of those is L-22, as Mayor Zorn mentioned, one of them is Hidden Valley, which is L-8.
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And one of them is Nancy Boyd, which is L-16, they all mentioned multi-use fields.
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Councilmember Malhy mentioned earlier that multi-use fields were part of the general recommendation.
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And I think that not just with soccer, which I'm biased towards because I coach it, I'm the division coordinator for a 360 kids,
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most of whom are from Martinez and play youth soccer in Pleasant Hill three times a week because there aren't adequate safe fields in Martinez quite frankly.
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their a little bit lumpy. I would love to see some of the focus on this plan to be to make
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the grass playable where it's grass. I recognize fully that the artificial turf fields carry
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environmental impacts and things like that that aren't always the the most cost-effective way
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to spend your money, but grass is fairly simple to solve the problem for, especially when you have
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organizations like marketing as you baseball and plus and no marketing as soccer association and
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So, at their back in Mount Diablo, Mustang, which Brian mentioned, willing to help do some of the volunteer work and some of the coordination on that field space.
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Just want to advocate for the 2,500, 2,600, plus kids who go to school either in Martinez are very close by and play sports.
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In Martinez are very close by and all their families who love coming to downtown Martinez and spending their time and money on the weekends.
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using waterfront for use soccer, using hidden valley,
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hidden lakes for use soccer, and Nancy Boyd is a part
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that the PH of SA has left for a long time.
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For use soccer, it could be a boon for the city,
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in more ways than just building community,
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but also in getting that lunch money on weekends.
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I know because I go to lunch with my family
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after every Saturday's soccer game.
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So, thanks, guys.
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Thank you very much.
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All right. I am done with my speaker cards, but there's more people in the room still.
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By show hands, is there anyone else who'd like to provide comment tonight?
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I've got one, two, three. How does that sound?
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So we'll start with you coming up.
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Good evening. My name's Jose Asu.
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And I'm here to talk about disc golf.
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I was pleased to see in the 18 meeting.
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One of the things that came out of it was that the guy's port.
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If remaining disc golf is an affordable accessible
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recreation mind speaking into the microphone.
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I'm sorry.
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Sorry.
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Thank you.
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As the meeting supported implementing disc golf is an affordable accessible
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recreation asset from Martinez.
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I think it falls right along with the plan.
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It is a new recreation opportunity from Martinez
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and when comparing it to other cities.
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The cities are conquered,
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Maraga,
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But Nisha, Walnut Creek, I'll have this call, of course, as around here as well, and so I'm happy to make this call part of the master plan for the next 15 years as one of the fastest growing sports in the United States.
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Thanks.
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Thank you very much.
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Two.
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Go on it.
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Thank you, Mayor Zorn, from the opportunity to speak to the council this evening about the children of Martinez.
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I'm a 25-year resident of Martinez.
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I've jumped in this town.
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I've helped build the rank here in this town.
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I'm currently working with the law on the creek on the ice,
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but I would like to do something for the children
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and create what would be the Martinez Motorsports Academy.
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I would like to build a cardine track for the kids here in Martinez.
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The Bambino, kids' carts, five to eight years old, 50 C.
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CCC's three-horsepower cadet carts, seven to 10 years old, 100 CCC's five to 10-horsepower. That's
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where I would end our academy. You could offer this to the elementary schools. You could offer
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this at the intermediate high school college. You can bring everybody in to either be a mechanic,
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an engineer, work on the carts. There's also sportsman carts, which are the LO206s. These are all
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start carts, by the way. The junior carts, 12 to 15 years old, 125 cc's, 23 horse power, that's what I currently own.
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Senior carts, 15 plus, 125 cc's, 30 horse power, a little bit faster, and then of course the case that two
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or shifter carts, which are roughly 50 horse power, 125 cc, 100 mile an hour carts. Not looking for anything like that for the kids.
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just these carts are built to start at a certain level and as you get better and as you grow
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and as you get heavier you build into the next generation of carts. I'm proposing basically a
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3.4 no longer than a 3.4 mile track. We have wonderful opportunities here in Martinez with
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both pavement and asphalt companies to help us along with this. We also have a wonderful
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of carding business here in the Brioani's that could possibly be a distributor to this particular
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item.
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Logistics, I have a couple of thoughts in mind about sites, but, again, this would be up to
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the council as to what it is that they feel is best for this particular event.
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And again, five years old, get the kids on the track, teach them how to drive.
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They don't, when they turn 16, they'll already have car control.
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This track can be run in the rain as well. You put the rain tires on. You just run around in the or you leave the slicks on and work on skid control
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really is an all 365 day event and
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You have wonderful
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Sonoma has a wonderful cardied facility. It's old city of Davis has a city track called blue max cardients center, which is also very old
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They're the only other city known course that I particularly know of everything else is private
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I want to thank you for your time, Council, and I hope we can make this somehow happen.
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Thank you.
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Well, I can definitely test.
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I have a 17 year old, and he definitely does not have car control.
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So I do recognize and hear that point.
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And everything above that, obviously they would bring their own carts.
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We could also open it up to the kids for motorcycles.
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Nothing bigger than a 350cc.
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You get the kids out there on their motorcycles.
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Again, this would all be driven by the parents.
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We got to get a past mum first because I don't know the dance room.
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I'm training ground for Bob Bonder at School of Driving.
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Thank you.
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That's right.
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All right.
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Thank you for your comment.
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Heartland.
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I guess I missed the speaker card sign in.
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I'm glad this is a vision plan and open to or ideas as time goes on and open to more
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a comment before the end of the year.
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That said, it seems to be more of a, or at least as much a recreation master plan as a parks master plan and the senior center being included, dog parks being included, you know,
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disc golf and the park arts in a parks master plan and makes it seem pretty, pretty broad scope which I think is a good idea.
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So that said, I would urge the Council to think of including the El Hambre Cemetery in the
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Parks Master Plan.
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It's a beautiful natural location.
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I don't know how many people have been up there.
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But it's quiet edge of the city on the Korkinir scenic drive going out of down toward Port
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And it's just down the road from Rankin Park,
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Negently Staging Area.
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And there's, I guess, a new trail on the next
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of the railroad tracks that goes up to the across the road
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from the Negently Staging Area.
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And then from those areas, there's a whole raft of trails
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going up into the Franklin Hill.
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So it's a great area that offers
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recreational opportunities for hikers in open space,
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people who enjoy open space.
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It's also a great deal of historic interest in the park.
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If you look at just about any of the markers, there's interesting stories.
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CTA is a group that is going to be working with the city, and there are good sources of information
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on a lot of stuff up there. There's over probably four to five thousand people buried there,
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which is much more than people would realize. And a lot of them have very, very interesting stories
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that are historic interest, not just locally, but at the state level and even nationally.
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And lastly, having that extra support for the cemetery, I think it would help the level
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of interest and volunteer participation and cleanups and help reduce the city expenses
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and keeping it up and keeping it a pleasant place to join.
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Thanks.
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Thank you.
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All right.
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Any last comments in the room tonight?
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Yeah, I'm actually going to come up and follow you and go ask it.
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Hello, hi.
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I'm Max Guadino, local citizen.
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I'm also on Parks and Rec Commission.
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But speaking of local citizen, I think this is a great opportunity to really promote new ideas for this city moving forward.
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There would be inclusive of everyone in town.
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By this I mean more on the lines of, we have great baseball facilities, we have great soccer facilities,
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lots of basketball courts. We don't have too much for kids of all ages who do
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not traditional activities. Writing bikes, skateboarding, disc golf, things that
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really, they can't find in town now. I've really loved to see an outdoor
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bouldering area. Rock climbing is huge. There's some companies that make some great outdoor weather
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resistant boulders with safe landing. I've seen myself in person in other cities.
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Right now we
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have the chance to really put forward an idea that includes not just kids who want to play baseball
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year round, not just kids that want to play basketball, but kids you want to go skateboarding, kids
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want to ride, you know, a downhill flow trail and hit a jump line and a pump track.
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Kids want to play a disc golf.
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I think to really push this idea forward the next 15 years, like I say, to be inclusive of
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everyone and to introduce people to new ideas and new sports they never thought they might
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like. You know, you put a new skate park at the waterfront with a pump track, a jump line,
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and some boulders, kids playing baseball, you know, their games over. They're going to
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walk over there and see their friends and be like, whoa, I'm going to try this too. So I really
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want to, as a city, as part of the commission, I really want us to go forward with this plan
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And not have everything set in stone, I would love to be able to have some wiggle room around where things may go and what's going to be here and what's going to be there after we talk to industry professionals who tell us really the best idea of where the best pump track or the flow trail would be and really just think about all the kids who they might be left out a little bit because they don't play baseball.
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And maybe, you know, we have that climbing wall at the Cessco Centennial, that a lot of kids were
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loving.
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If we had a year-round boulder pit right there too, they'd be down there boulder in, and then
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they could go skateboarding at the New Skate Park, and there was lots of budgetary constraints,
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but again, this is just visionary.
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So, that's all.
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Thank you.
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Hi, I wasn't sure when to talk so I'm just going to do it now.
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I'm, my name is Violet Harrington, I am a Girl Scout Ambassador of Troop 301-81.
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I am attempting my Gold Award, which is an 80-hour or more community service project led by a Girl Scout in the grades 9-312.
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I'm a junior. That is sustainable and tackles the problem in the community.
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I am hoping to, well, I'll start.
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I am from San Francisco. I moved here beginning of sixth grade for like a fun freshman start.
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I noticed in San Francisco that around middle school ages when teenagers start getting on their phones.
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They start getting social media. They start really being less social in person.
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And I noticed that's a huge problem. I'm in high school. So it's a big problem in our community.
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What's your-
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From Cisco to Cisco this was they put in fitness stations. They were put up in my neighborhood and
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certainly motivated me to go outside and more. I was hoping to take this opportunity that the
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city of Martinez is starting to revamp the parks a little bit. I was hoping to either help or take on
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one of those projects, I have an idea about a, well, sorry,
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my proposal is a trail, I was
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thinking in the waterfront like Marina area where there is a trail, hopefully, ADA accessible
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with different fantasizations around the Marina, it would motivate teenagers in the youth
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outside because it's a free and fun thing to do to check out new exercises, new equipment.
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I think that's that would motivate a lot of people.
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It while I was watching that presentation, it hits expanding use of the land because there's
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a lot of stuff that isn't used there most of the time.
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Teen youth, teen and youth opportunities, trails, it gets people outside to explore our area.
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It helps with the open area improvement and it needs little to know upkeep depending
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on what would happen. I just really think this is a good opportunity and then I am trying
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to earn my gold award so I could help lead and start one of these projects. So yeah, thank
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you. Thank you. Thanks. Why would you make sure to follow up with Riley and Casey there are
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representatives for this and the two of you maybe or the three of you can maybe exchange information
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and for the next couple rounds of this project.
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Thank you.
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All right, I'm going to open this up.
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There's a handful of people in the venue.
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There is?
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Oh, come on up.
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I wasn't sure whether it was going to speak today or not,
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but I'm a resident of Martinez.
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I've lived here for the last three years.
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My wife and I moved here.
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I'm also, I went to the conference on the value of play this last year and it got me very excited about getting people outside and getting people playing in the community.
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I'm now on the board for let's play America. They are an organization out of Tacoma Park, Maryland.
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They are trying to bring more play to communities.
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They've done 50 play days over the last 15 years, mostly into Commonwealth Park Maryland,
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but I'm trying to bring some of that here.
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Their big thing is to get people out into the parks, out into the communities, build more
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community through play.
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They're all accessible, all multi-generational.
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I'm proposed, I spoke with Debbie Herend, Hernandez.
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We're looking to bring play day to Martinez, probably May,
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or June of this coming year.
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But part of that is I was very excited to see
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see a lot of the stuff going on with the parks, and I have always enjoyed walking around
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Martinez. In fact, I walked here about two miles to come to this and I love walking through
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the parks on my way. So I just wanted to get up and talk a little bit about that and then talk
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about how I'm excited to use some of these facilities for,
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for, I got play day.
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Awesome, thank you.
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Thank you.
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W make sure to keep this updated on play day 2027.
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You're pretty excited.
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OK, is there any one of the virtual audience
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that wants to provide any comments?
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For those attending virtually, please use the Rezanne feature.
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I have no hands.
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OK, great.
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We are at time.
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I wanted to provide a couple of comments
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from me that I was writing down as people were talking and then I think we will probably
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need to wrap up in a couple of minutes, start our regular meeting and like staff said at
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the beginning, this is the first of what I know to be at least a few more public meetings
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on this and so I would like to ask Lauren and Mike, if the next time we have a public workshop,
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let's do this on a non-council meeting night and that way if we get a lot of people that have
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I don't have to abruptly.
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So, the next one we'll do on an off-night and that way we can just talk about parks as long as we won't.
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So, the one question that I had, this one was for KC, I got a chance to sit in on the PR Mac meeting where you presented this.
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It does not look like any changes have been made. Is that correct? It's the same as it was before, right?
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Okay, so you've gotten a lot of comments from PR Mac, you've gotten comments tonight, and so we should expect maybe the next iteration will incorporate some of those comments.
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like we're moving the dog park from the Golden Hills things like that, okay.
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So I just wanted to voice some of my comments.
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One, I said this earlier, but I wanted to reiterate,
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Trail Connectivity is really important to me,
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and I know I think this will be incorporating an exciteration,
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but the WRA report on trails and open space in general
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have really great trail recommendations for each individual open space,
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but does not have a system-wide open space connectivity map.
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And the reason that's important to us is,
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we've recently acquired Alhamber Hills.
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Alhamber Hills has the opportunity
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to connect to all these other open spaces
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and this particular report doesn't include it.
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So if we can make sure that a trail connectivity
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map's included, that would be great.
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I really appreciate Dylan making the comment
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about the Martinez Reservoir.
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I've heard of this before, and I completely forgot
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to mention it in some of our previous iteration.
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So thank you.
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I'd love us to talk about that.
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I really appreciate the rank and pool recommendations.
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I just want to give a shout out to that particular one.
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It includes recommendations for shade at the pool, and that's great.
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Because we rent out the cabanas, right?
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Those are the only shade in the entire pool.
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So if you're not paying for a birthday party, you don't get shade.
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So thank you very much for including that.
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I'd also love to talk a little bit more about the recommendations
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for the updated youth pool play structure.
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just by a not-of-heads have either of you case you're rightly talk to anyone on PR Mac about the pool play structure.
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Has that come up?
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Just the city's out.
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Okay.
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I'd only because we have received the donation to update that.
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And the outcome of the PR Mac meeting was is inconsistent with the recommendations and the parks and ester plan to make improvements.
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Right? Your recommendations make a big improvement. The outcome from the PRMAC meeting was that the place structure
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There isn't enough money necessarily to make huge improvements. So they just wanted to update it in kind.
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So I just want to make sure that we're aligned on all of our recommendations.
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For national fitness, W you've talked about fitness a bunch.
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And I was just like nobody ever uses those. But I have been really impressed by the national fitness campaigns
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that have been referenced in this document.
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There's a lot of really cool opportunities
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to really level up what we're doing.
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And I think the comment that Max made about,
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you know, bulldering walls, things like that.
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Those are the kinds of things that I think help us
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be, think outside of the box
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and that I think these fitness circuits
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have a lot of really cool opportunities.
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We recently had some discussions
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with some of the neighbors of the pickleball
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all that didn't work out super great.
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And one of the comments about pickleball and tennis
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are the impact noise.
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Fitness circuits don't have impact noise, right?
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They're not going to impact the neighbors in the same way.
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So I really like us to think about some of these
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opportunities to incorporate things like that.
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And so just by a not-of-head is the bulldering
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and option for these national fitness campaigns,
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it is, right?
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Do you know?
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Maybe we can look into it and see if that's similar.
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Symmeterie, thank you, Harlan, for bringing it up.
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I'm going to follow up with staff on it, because I know they've been talking about it,
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but I don't know how we've been incorporating it into the park system master plan.
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And then lastly, my final comment is regarding the All Wheels track.
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I wasn't sure if the All Wheels track was the direction that people in the industry describe it as.
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So I did reach out to grind line.
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It's a company that does build skate parks.
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And we had an opportunity to meet with them.
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And so after this information come out,
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I followed up with them.
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And I was like, hey, is all wheels track the right terminology?
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They said yes.
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I said, is the way that gate studio outlined the all wheels
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track location in size, how's that?
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And they said, yep, that looks appropriate.
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So I think we're headed in the right direction.
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And I always appreciate people like Max,
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and they say, talk to industry professionals.
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Our parks master plan right now is really just squares on maps, right?
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We're not getting into the weeds.
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And so I hope that each one of these squares represents something great.
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That's sort of been vetted at a really high level.
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And then as we're ready to start.
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Funding some of these things on the long term, we can then pivot to the industry professionals and
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they can provide the input of what that. Otherwise, just a colored box on a map will ultimately
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manifest that. So, thank you. I just want to make sure that I gave the shout out because
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skate parks is the one thing that I had been saying since the very beginning I really wanted
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us to be talking about as part of this. So, thank you for including that. Okay, thank you for
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If I had any wrap-up statements, do you want to go ahead?
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You go with me.
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No, I was just going to say thank you for the plan.
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It is a great ambitious vision, which I like.
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But as Mayor mentioned, I just, the comments have been great.
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We'll continue to get feedback, but just kind of want to get to that point where we're kind of looking at
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and prioritizing, you know, I guess I'm getting excited about the implementation and I'm always
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concerned about what is it going to cost us. So yeah, but I appreciate all the work, the continued
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work and due diligence by everyone involved. So, so thank you all.
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Great. Yeah, so I appreciate what
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my colleagues are talking about. I'm very excited about the Creek Access. Man, I saw that
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and I just lit up that session because we go down and do a lot of creek cleanups and it's
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quality of life thing, right, getting people down to that water. I think that's very important
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and I see that you spoke to shade and trees and that gets me excited as well. I think trees
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throughout the city are important.
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Let's remember we are in the middle of five, four refineries,
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and I think that the air filters are critical for us, the shade,
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and I think it's something our grandkids will thank us for.
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I did, I love your input on the Senior Center.
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I know we have budgeted $250,000 towards that.
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I don't think that's anywhere near enough.
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I think it needs a major, overhaul.
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I think having a high quality senior center
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again speaks for the quality of life of our community.
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And the fact that it has to deal with the elevation,
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you know, really worries me.
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And then the bathrooms, we all know if you go in our mess, right?
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and they are so tired, I can't believe they're compliance.
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That's another story.
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I really like the idea of the cemetery being added to this
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because that is part of our history and Martinez is all about our history.
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We have our own cemetery commission and I would love staff to bring them in
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and have a conversation with them and get their great ideas.
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I think that's about it.
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I mean, I got a ton of stuff I'd like to talk about when I want to be mindful of the time in my colleagues.
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Yeah, can we provide written comments on this document? Is that okay? I guess that's more a question for staff. Are you okay? If we just provide written comments?
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Okay, so feel free to just summarize them by email. And that way, they can be all submitted to them before the next workshop.
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Go ahead. And the two of you can.
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Yeah, I'd love it.
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Thank you for the presentation. I'd love to have an opportunity to connect with you offline just to provide some further feedback
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But just really wanted to shout out all the community. Thank you for taking the time to show up
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These are your parks and we appreciate you taking time at a year busy schedules to provide this very constructive input
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And just know that I'm taking it to heart and I really appreciate all the comments that we're said
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Pine Meadow I see you so thank you. I appreciate that those comments were well taken and
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And again, to Max's point, you know, this is an opportunity to really be forward thinking in many ways, right?
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It's, you know, yeah, we have baseball, we have soccer, we have all of the traditional things, right?
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But it's also the amenities for the non-traditional, and we've got to be thinking about those kids, right?
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And those families, and maybe they don't fit into one of those boxes.
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Soccer, I hear you too, love you as a former AYSO kid, played for 10 years, I'm right there with you.
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It's absolutely critical, and so, yeah, we want to bring better fields, you know, unfortunately
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gofers and rodents have other plans, and so that's a challenge, right, and so just to
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heads up on that, but doesn't mean we're not, we don't want to do it.
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There is a desire there, so absolutely.
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We appreciate that. And, yeah, about what council member Young said, about the need, you know, how we're going to pay for all of this, right? That's obviously top of mind and the points that we're taking. We have all these wonderful amenities, but yes, we do have to figure out how are we going to pay for it? How are we going to sustain it? So we need to balance that all particularly as we are now in an era of structural deficits for at least the foreseeable future right now.
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We need to balance everything so again, my sincere thanks to the comments keep them coming
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We're not done yet and again, thank you very much to the gates team and thank you colleagues
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I know time short. I'll keep it short. I agree with all my council colleagues and I want to thank everyone for being here tonight
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I love your ideas. I love your enthusiasm. I love your engagement and we've learned a lot
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We've heard from so many different people about different types of amenities to consider.
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So I think that's amazing making me very excited about that.
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One of the things I think that was mentioned was discolfe and I think, I don't know if we
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talked about that at the end, I think that was one of the things I had written down.
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I know, brand, or mayor's own.
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Let's do it off a whole lot of things.
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So I support those as well.
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I know we're in a structural deficit and we're looking at funding, but how I look at this is
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If we have a vision, and there is something we really want, I always say this a way to get
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there.
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You got to find a way to, yes, you can find a way to what we need, and so I'm always in
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a think positive because these things are going to be our vision, but we want them to be
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a reality.
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We want them to be implemented, and so with partnerships, with businesses, and other types
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of nonprofits, there are ways to be creative, we can find ways to get where we want to be.
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So I want to make sure we always are thinking about that as well.
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The vision is there, we've created it, we're creating it, but we want the end game too.
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And we have a lot of work to do to get there, but we will get there.
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I'm convinced.
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I'm going to think positive.
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Because it's for the kids, it's for all of us, it's for our futures, for our grandkids.
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And that makes me feel excited.
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I'm actually going to have a granddaughter in January.
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So I'm super excited.
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That's the way.
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That's all I have to say.
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That's a great way to adopt this workshop.
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Thank you very much.
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So I want to thank everyone for joining us this evening.
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There will be at least one more of these public workshops.
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So I appreciate the comments about sandwich boards and things like that.
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And we've done that at various other parks for various reasons.
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And so I was kicking myself when you made that comment that I hadn't already requested it.
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So thank you all for joining.
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We are going to take a quick recess, and then we'll try to be back in about five minutes or so to get started for our, we are very late for regular schedule meeting.
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Thank you.
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Recording stopped.