[0:04] I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[0:10] republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[0:17] justice for all. >> All right, thank you for joining

[0:21] everyone. We've got a correction to make from the last meeting. Um, when it comes

[0:27] to Gordy Patrick's permit

[0:31] for a variance application, um, we didn't follow the correct procedure in

[0:38] because Richard Cole and myself need to abstain

[0:44] conflict of interest and we didn't do the proper procedure to appoint a new

[0:49] chairman to the meeting. So, it's just Do we have the other guys?

[0:53] » Yeah, we have Dan and Logan and George. >> Okay,

[1:00] » so >> I think I can get started. Let's uh

[1:05] approval of the agenda. >> I I would make a motion to approve the

[1:11] agenda. This is Dan. >> I'll second that.

[1:17] » Was that Logan? >> Yes.

[1:20] » Logan seconds.

[1:23] Okay, then we'll take a roll call. All in favor?

[1:28] Dan >> Dan says I

[1:36] » I for myself and Richard, are you around or not?

[1:46] All opposed? Motion carries.

[1:51] Okay. Then approval of the minutes from

[1:55] November 12th. >> Uh this is Dan. I would make a motion to

[1:59] approve the minutes from November 12th. >> Okay. Dan makes a motion.

[2:07] » George second. >> George seconds.

[2:12] All in favor? Roll call. Dan I.

[2:16] » Logan. I

[2:20] » George >> I

[2:22] » and myself I any opposed

[2:28] motion carries.

[2:32] Um so then we move on to conflict of interest. I myself will name

[2:39] conflict of interest and uh we will

[2:46] move on to public public comments. Did everybody want anybody want to sign in

[2:51] or are you here for the commissioner's meeting?

[2:56] There's no public comments.

[3:00] Uh we'll move on to the motion to move to board of

[3:06] adjustments. >> Uh this is Dan. I would make a motion to

[3:09] move into the board of adjustment. >> Thank you, Dan. Motion by Dan.

[3:17] I have a second. >> George second.

[3:21] » Thank you, George. Okay.

[3:25] All in favor? Dan? I >> Logan.

[3:30] » I >> George.

[3:33] » I am. >> Can you hear me?

[3:37] » There's Richard. >> Here we go. Yes.

[3:40] » Richard, >> do you want to vote?

[3:42] » I've been on all the time. >> Okay,

[3:47] we're looking for uh all in favor to move the board of

[3:52] adjustment. Are you on favor or opposed?

[4:02] We're gonna whatever.

[4:06] » Okay. So, we're talking about the variance for Gordon Patrick. Co um at

[4:14] this time. >> So, you relinquish your seats to Jeff.

[4:21] » I will relinquish my seat to Jeff. Richard,

[4:28] » I can't hear you. >> Richard, we would like you to relinquish

[4:32] your seat to Glenn if you would agree. >> Yes.

[4:37] » I would you would you move the microphone a little closer to you.

[4:42] » Thank you. >> All right.

[4:48] » So, >> I will relinquish the chair to Hunter.

[4:54] I can't because I have conflict of interest.

[4:58] » I'm not talking to you, Richard. >> I Huh?

[5:02] » No. F is relinquishing his chairman seat to me and then I will elect a new

[5:08] chairman. >> All right.

[5:11] » Anyways, um I would take a nomination for

[5:18] new chairman position. I I would make I would make a motion

[5:23] Jeff Newart serve as our chairman for today.

[5:28] » Okay. Could I have a second for that? >> Logan second.

[5:36] » Okay.

[5:44] » Okay. First, sorry. First, we need a motion. Okay. Dan, you nominated Jeff.

[5:49] Now, we need a motion for that. and then a second.

[5:56] » Uh

[6:01] I I I'm not I'm not sure I understand. >> Okay. You nominated Jeff as the

[6:06] chairman. So now someone needs to move and second

[6:10] to close nominations and cast a unanimous ballot for Jeff.

[6:15] » Richard Richard will do that. Richard,

[6:19] » you can't Richard. >> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[6:30] » Okay. And then a second for that. >> Logan second.

[6:34] » Okay. Then I would need a roll call vote.

[6:41] » Dan says I. >> Okay. Logan

[6:44] » I. I

[6:48] » Okay. And then all in favor? Okay. Motion carried.

[6:54] » You got Who's your other one? >> And then Glenn.

[6:57] » I >> Okay.

[7:00] All in favor? Motion carries for Jeff to be

[7:06] chairman. So, I will now relinquish the board of adjustment chair to alternate

[7:10] chairman Jeff. Okay. Uh, as far as I know, and you got to got to correct me

[7:15] if I'm wrong, we have the Gordon Patrick U variance in front of us, and we

[7:22] discussed this at the last meeting. Uh, it was determined that the variance

[7:28] should be allowed, but we can all we can have more discussion on it if need be.

[7:33] The only thing I remember is we put on stipulation if there is a snow issue

[7:39] that they will be required to care of it at their cost

[7:44] if it's determined that >> correct

[7:46] » the building causes the snow issue. Is there anything else to add to that?

[7:53] Anybody?

[7:58] If not, I would entertain a motion to uh approve the variance.

[8:04] So move motion by uh Glenn. Uh second. >> Yes, I will second. Dan.

[8:15] » Second by Dan. Any further discussion? >> All those in favor?

[8:21] » Roll call vote. Glenn >> I.

[8:25] » Dan >> I.

[8:27] » George >> I.

[8:29] » Logan. >> I.

[8:32] » Okay. Motion is passed. Is there any other business that we need to take care

[8:36] of with me as the chair? Okay. Then I will uh what what is the

[8:43] procedure? >> Now you two would relinquish your spots

[8:47] back to Richard and Mike. >> Okay. So I will relinquish my spot back

[8:52] to Mike.

[8:56] » I will also relinquish my spot back to Richard.

[9:12] I don't have anything else to take

[9:21] you to.

[9:34] » Okay. So this is Mike as chair. Again, we will uh

[9:40] um entertain a motion to move out of board adjustment.

[9:44] » This is Dan. I would make that motion to move out of board of adjustment.

[9:48] » Thank you. Dan makes a motion. Is there a second?

[9:53] » George will second. >> Thank you, George.

[9:57] Roll call vote. All in favor say I. >> I. Dan. Okay. says I. Dan says I Logan

[10:06] » I. >> Richard

[10:08] » I >> I am and I as well. No new business.

[10:16] Um entertain a motion to adjourn the meeting.

[10:21] » I'll make a motion to adjourn. >> Motion to adjourn. Is there a second?

[10:28] » Richard makes a second. Okay. Roll call. All in

[10:32] favor? Logan

[10:36] » I. >> Dan

[10:38] » I. >> George

[10:41] » I. >> Richard

[10:43] » I. >> Mike is an I. Meeting adjourns. Thank

[10:47] you everyone.

[11:06] Yeah, I got an idea.

[11:29] Yeah.

[11:47] There you go.

[11:59] This is your

[12:20] » Yes, sir. >> This on your road.

[12:23] » No kidding.

[12:27] So confused.

[12:36] » That's going in my shop.

[12:41] I'll get in there in the morning and that'll scrape me up.

[13:00] this occupants.

[13:07] » That's right.

[13:41] day.

[13:46] I didn't think it was too bad even though it was cold.

[14:14] Two minutes. I don't want my mind.

[14:39] » Welcome everybody to the December meeting already with the second start

[14:43] with the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the

[14:48] United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation

[14:55] under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

[15:13] Any

[15:17] additions or corrections to the agenda for today?

[15:24] » I'll make a motion to approve the agenda as we have a motion by Sid. Second.

[15:29] » I will second that. >> Second by Mike. Any other discussion?

[15:34] All in favor say I. I. >> All motion carries

[15:38] conflict of interest of any line items today.

[15:50] We'll move on. >> Everybody get a chance to look through

[15:54] the minutes from the November 4th and the November 12th commissioner meeting.

[15:59] Any corrections?

[16:07] » If not, I will ask for a motion to approve both of those meetings. All to

[16:11] approve the minutes for November 4th and November 12th.

[16:14] » Have a motion by Mike. Second. Second by Jeff. Any other discussion? All in favor

[16:20] say I. I. >> All motion carries.

[16:23] » I'll move to for commission. We have a motion by Sid. Second. Second by Jeff.

[16:30] All in favor say I. >> All motion carried the commission.

[16:37] At this time, public comment. I know. There was two individuals that were

[16:42] signed up for specific to speak. Is there anything else?

[16:49] Um, when do we I would like to comment. I don't know when I'm supposed to. What

[16:54] do you What would you like to comment on >> the purchasing of new tractors and so

[16:59] on? >> Okay. We can we can leave that until

[17:02] we're agenda item. Please raise your hand.

[17:05] » Perfect. >> We're on the item. We're on the subject.

[17:09] fine with you.

[17:25] » That's fine. Just raise your hand. >> Yeah, I'll let you know.

[17:32] » If there's none, we'll move on to

[17:41] All these are pretty well time stamped.

[17:48] Let's move on to uh courthouse weather protocol.

[17:52] The other day Sharon had called me. School had uh been two hours late in

[17:57] Leola. I'm sorry Eureka. Then they dismiss school out in

[18:04] Leola and other courouses were cancelling, dismissing. So, I just went

[18:13] ahead and I said, "Make sure that we close up 11:30, 12:00 and do the buddy

[18:18] system that everybody gets home safe and then we'll go from there." So, I don't

[18:23] know what you've done in the past. I think what we've done before is Dave and

[18:27] and Lyn Lee kind of would correspond because you usually are out on the road

[18:32] pretty early and >> if it's in the morning.

[18:36] » Yeah. >> And you know we can kind of look at the

[18:38] forecast the night before. I mean you guys

[18:43] » this was during the day during the day. >> I just I didn't feel bad that we just we

[18:50] did what we did when it was like >> No, it was the right thing to do because

[18:53] I had to run the in the morning and on the way home got slower as I got closer

[18:58] to home 11.

[19:02] » So between uh Dave and Lley >> is that okay

[19:08] » you guys? Yeah, I think the board chairman could be involved in decision

[19:13] making process. >> Sure.

[19:14] » And you know I watch the weather too if you know there is anything that

[19:18] everything is cancelled or anything. Sometimes you cancel stuff and then it

[19:21] doesn't come or doesn't come for hours but that's the call rather than you guys

[19:26] get on the road or anybody else. >> But I know like for lady up in our area

[19:32] can be a whole lot different. Last night it was blowing on the way home.

[19:36] » Yeah.

[19:39] I just did one set my make everything safe.

[19:50] » Okay. Next item. Christmas at the courthouse. Discussion allowing area

[19:53] groups to set up trees and invite the community in December for cookies on

[19:57] December 11th and tree judging until December 23rd.

[20:04] Assuming if you're asking this, this hasn't done in the past?

[20:08] » No, we we've done it every year. >> Okay.

[20:11] » Okay. >> I mean, as far as additional trees,

[20:16] there other trees. >> Yeah. Like area groups,

[20:19] » 4

[20:26] is doing their Christmas day on December 11th. So that

[20:31] would be usually the school >> kids come over from the

[20:38] Um I I don't know if they will this year, but in the in the past they have.

[20:42] » Do they say >> they just judge the trees and look at

[20:46] the look at the trees?

[20:58] » Is there

[21:02] set time? Yeah, we've done all we'll do all day on the 11th and then we'll have

[21:07] it the trees will be done until

[21:12] » So who who actually judged? >> Yeah. Yeah, we just number them and then

[21:17] we have a box for their favorite. There's no

[21:24] just for fun. There's no prize or anything.

[21:29] Okay, we'll move on to if there's no other comments or discussion on that uh

[21:35] court security committee. Um basically to take a look at that um we'll need to

[21:40] appoint the following people state attorney Austin Hoffman

[21:44] Sheriff Auditor Lley Howard Cate Administrator Jean Hudson and Judge

[21:51] Mcnition.

[21:56] Is there anybody one of us

[22:01] to be on that committee.

[22:07] » Sure.

[22:17] » We have a motion for appointed and commissioner.

[22:24] Second. >> I have a second.

[22:24] » We have a second by Sid. Any further discussion?

[22:28] » All in favor say I. >> I.

[22:30] » All motion carried

[22:44] back.

[22:49] Motion to approve resolution 25-26 upon approval.

[22:53] subdivision in southwest section 177.

[23:05] » Is that we looked at this >> long

[23:14] house?

[23:21] Okay. We have a We have a motion. We have a second.

[23:26] » Second by Mike. want to take a little

[23:45] turn to go up into their yard,

[23:51] » I think. Yeah.

[24:06] people

[24:15] got a motion. >> I do. I'm just waiting for everybody to

[24:18] take a look at the cloud.

[24:39] » Okay. All in favor say I. >> I. All oppose. Motion carried.

[24:45] We will move on to the first reading public hearing at ordinance 25-2

[24:50] proponents opponents to general comments tab number one

[24:57] and I'll hand this over to you Mike at this time. You want to explain?

[25:10] » Well, it's pretty much what's been discussed several times already. Um we

[25:14] uh >> we held

[25:18] two meetings in the zoning level there. Well, one to discuss it and then a

[25:24] hearing at that level and moved it on to the commission. It's um

[25:31] this one is in topic of during discussion of the approach ordinance

[25:36] that we made modifications to. Did we talk about it at our last commissioners

[25:40] meeting? >> A little bit.

[25:41] » Yeah. So, 44. >> Nothing's been changed.

[25:46] » Yeah. >> And um so I guess

[25:54] it's here for us to have our first public hearing.

[25:58] One question I do have

[26:02] with this ordinance when it goes into effect, all the approaches that are

[26:07] there, they're grandfathered in. It's a done deal. I

[26:16] There are a ton of them out there that are wide. Where do you start?

[26:20] » Well, there's specific topic on the table.

[26:22] » Somebody who I think called you and give you an earful.

[26:25] » Oh, yeah. >> So,

[26:29] yeah, I find it was issued to a few people. So, was that fine was for

[26:35] working for it just happened to be

[26:47] Well, I think we probably talk to our legal advisor

[26:52] before we call

[26:59] » it would affect a lot of people. >> Yeah, I know.

[27:04] » And probably including me >> the route that we have to go,

[27:07] » you know, even though we're organized township out there. because we didn't

[27:10] have these these right before you can't go back

[27:17] » but from when this is enacted forward >> right

[27:21] » then we got something >> or we need to make the call then are we

[27:25] going to address the issue of Mr. Max's approaches and making correct those and

[27:30] Mr. M whose name has come up in the last month or two.

[27:37] » They got fined for working in the right way.

[27:39] » Well, Mome was supposed to remove his. >> I've got that.

[27:46] » Yeah.

[27:56] » That has nothing to do with the itself. It's just how we that want to handle the

[28:02] pass. >> Well,

[28:06] » so the biggest thing with this is it didn't name

[28:10] who had the authority to write a permit, give a permit. Glenn had been giving the

[28:16] permit, but there was no ordinance in place stating that Glenn had the

[28:19] authority to give the permit. So this now states the highway superintendent

[28:26] has the authority to grant the permit for approaches much like Hunter has the

[28:31] authority to grant permits for buildings.

[28:35] So how does this affect

[28:40] your question about previously built approaches?

[28:46] I don't know. >> Terrible thing to say.

[28:51] I would I would agree with that. There's I can't I

[28:58] we put in over the years put in over the years.

[29:03] » Well, putting in approaching is one thing. Building excessive pull off is

[29:07] another.

[29:11] » You think plus you got so get covered up like that. I think

[29:17] it's some kind of problem. Am

[29:24] I right?

[29:31] » That's the first reading of the >> correct. Yes.

[29:44] » Over the years, you know, a lot of those I would say yes, but you know, they were

[29:50] I'm not dead certain how to look at this because by law they have to have

[29:54] permission to work in the right way no matter what.

[29:59] » And and that you know we never you know like you said we were doing that old

[30:04] permit where I was giving a new permit. Um

[30:08] I don't really know how to say if that was right or wrong in my opinion. you

[30:13] know, someone being the highway authority. In my mind, I had the the

[30:19] authority to grant, you know, approaches, but according to other

[30:24] opinions, that isn't quite right. Um either way, like these these last ones,

[30:30] we found them. They're not right. They did it without

[30:35] approval. So, those I believe have to be addressed. The ones that were approved

[30:40] and put in prior to that Yeah, I guess I would consider those grandfather.

[30:46] However you gentlemen look at it, you know, people can't just go and work in

[30:52] the right way because they want to. And that's what's some it's been happening

[30:56] more than it should. >> We can discuss that when we come to your

[31:00] line item. You know, the matter at hand right now is the action motion to

[31:05] approve this ordinance. So >> this is the first

[31:10] and I guess I would Considering what he said,

[31:15] with their fault being working in the right of way, we still have the

[31:19] opportunity to make them altered or removed completely.

[31:24] So our hands aren't tied with certain recent events.

[31:29] If they don't like it, we don't this this will be moving forward giving

[31:36] the authority. That's the only thing that's changed. Well, maybe not only But

[31:41] it lays out. That's the main thing. And it it also lays out pitch 4 to one

[31:47] pitch. That wasn't that was a little foggy. So there was a couple

[31:51] modifications made to it. But as far as keeping or removing those for

[31:59] sure, those two gentlemen's approaches that top still needs to be taken care

[32:04] of. And I think when the motion was made few meetings ago by Neil have Mr. Mol

[32:13] receive a fine. It was also to remove and then when I made the motion for Mr.

[32:18] Mack, it was just a motion to find for working in the right way. I didn't make

[32:22] a motion at that time to have it removed. So that's something that could

[32:26] still be done.

[32:32] And I did that because his were ahead of this all whereas Brian's were after it

[32:39] started and I wanted to make sure we had our thoughts together fully before we

[32:44] make Mr. Mac

[32:50] » any public comments.

[33:02] If it's grandfathered in, then Commissioner Mike Martian should get his

[33:07] $500. He didn't break anybody

[33:20] else.

[33:23] Not I will ask for a motion to approve the first reading of 25-2.

[33:31] So moved by Jeff second by Neil. All in favor say I.

[33:36] » I oppos motion car. This is the first reading public hearing

[33:42] of ordinance 253 proponents opponents general comments on number one.

[33:52] And at the end of these hearings the second reading will be on December 30th.

[34:12] a little bit over. I know we talked about this last time. What were the

[34:17] changes again? There was a five miles, >> right? For inount residents, they had a

[34:21] five mile limit max. And if they had to travel past that, they had to apply for

[34:28] a permit and we've extended it to 10 miles before they have to apply for a

[34:33] permit. >> That's pretty much

[34:38] » I do believe that was the extent of it there. Nothing was to change as far as

[34:43] out of county residents um traveling in

[34:53] Any

[35:04] public comments?

[35:12] Any discussion comments by the commission?

[35:18] » So in case like

[35:23] being just out of county south and then far down here. We still have to get

[35:31] » Well, it is more. I guess >> the only thought I've had and I haven't

[35:35] shared it with him, maybe I shouldn't share it with you guys, is why can't

[35:39] Dustin get >> Yeah. And he did.

[35:41] » Okay. >> That's what he did the last time.

[35:42] » So Dustin's in the county, >> right? So

[35:46] » they're working it together. So he's still

[35:49] » probably over 10 miles. Yes. Yes. That's that's this 14 or something

[35:57] » because like you said out of county is different

[36:00] » but >> it's manure origination not residents

[36:04] per se. >> So manure

[36:07] » I got not not where

[36:11] live but if it's >> yes it's where the manure originated.

[36:14] Did the manure originate in McFerson or outside of the county?

[36:25] last time that was >> somebody want to haul when

[36:33] county >> well and I think for out of county

[36:38] origination it would still be five miles

[36:44] it's different for out of

[36:49] says any manure originating outside of McFerson County a variance is required

[36:54] for every legal land description.

[37:00] » So there's zero >> I would say it doesn't matter where it's

[37:09] » half mile outside of Mc

[37:14] would still need >> Yeah. the way.

[37:17] » And then the one thing that never gets touched on is pumping

[37:24] » and that's >> originated from.

[37:27] » Well, >> right.

[37:28] » Well, I don't know. Yeah, maybe. I'm not sure what the

[37:35] the distance some of these lines. I know they put boosters in them, but

[37:43] » I I don't know because they If it happens, they want a 12 mile radius

[37:50] » of land at least. So, how are they getting it there? Is it liquid or is it

[37:56] » solid? At the same point, if it is solid, it doesn't matter. It's covered

[38:01] here. But >> if it's liquid, is it hurting anybody?

[38:06] » The thing with the solids is it's impacting the roads. That's potentially

[38:13] greatest harm right now. So maybe it doesn't need to be

[38:18] addressed. >> Speaking of that, when they run the

[38:22] lines, do you have to give permission or they just do it?

[38:26] » Um, majority of the time they ask me

[38:42] push um

[38:45] anything with

[38:49] » the only

[38:53] » was upset about that. >> Yeah, because he thought he wanted it

[38:58] » and that was an issue. >> Whatever happened there?

[39:05] » Nothing. Um, what he's talking about is up on the

[39:10] inter by uh Thorps

[39:14] » the last one before he say >> yeah the cutter were crossing's land and

[39:22] then he told me he wanted paid for it so then they shipped it to the right of way

[39:26] and he told me they couldn't go on the rightway because he own that that corner

[39:30] but in actually county is one of the few properties we do own

[39:36] can't remember is it nine acres in there that might be too much anyway but we own

[39:42] that We own the right away and the curb there and the corner.

[39:55] » Just read for a second.

[40:11] » It doesn't

[40:15] So really I read

[40:24] I really think that

[40:31] » would under the various shall include a description and product per load. So

[40:37] does that

[40:46] » it assumes it's to me a semi or don't you know something

[40:53] » changed per load or per

[41:00] gallon >> load gallon gallon

[41:08] I I would go along with that because I really just

[41:15] you know what we've seen liquid has been

[41:26] » well and then also to extend on that it says per load. So we make it load per

[41:32] gallon to be hauled that meets the legal load limit requirements or working in

[41:38] the rightway. >> Oh yeah.

[41:55] » Yeah. >> So how far are pushing it?

[41:58] » I would think so. As I say there again, they're under 10

[42:02] miles

[42:06] » out of the county. >> So, well, they're under

[42:18] next.

[42:23] » So, do we want to change that number four

[42:27] to

[42:30] gallon to be hauled

[42:39] limits and right away requirements.

[42:50] » Yes,

[42:54] number on the next page it says injected or incorporated. That means basically

[43:11] Mr. Chair, could you ask the audience?

[43:18] » Anything else that you see that we should be changing?

[43:25] » Yes, go ahead. >> I just got one concern. Have you

[43:28] addressed anything about liquor leak? If you have a major leak in

[43:36] right and it goes to the neighbor's dugout basically

[43:41] » contaminates his dugout for that

[43:56] probably

[44:03] Maybe we should put another >> sixaks.

[44:30] Did you look there's any otheries that

[44:43] We can put these in there for now.

[44:55] » Any leaks in the rightway or anywhere?

[45:11] Okay. Anything else? So,

[45:16] Jeff, you want to just tell us what you have two corrections you have? Okay.

[45:28] » What did you write? >> You're right.

[45:31] If we did a description, approximate quantity and product per load slash

[45:38] » gallon to be hauled or pumped that meets the

[45:44] legal load limit requirements and right of way occupancy permitting.

[46:02] I'm assuming that you would

[46:08] overwhelate

[46:25] is liable for

[46:30] anything else. Thank you.

[46:37] » Okay. With those two additions, anything else? If not, I'll ask for a

[46:41] motion to >> I'll make a motion.

[46:45] » We have a motion by Mike. Second by Neil.

[46:51] Anything else? If not all say I

[46:56] motion car

[47:01] 1035 courthouse bid opening

[47:12] » what do we do for the snow

[47:22] » I guess assuming it was

[47:29] » um we haven't formally received just

[47:38] a text message. >> Okay.

[47:52] » Yep. I'll make the table until later in the meeting.

[47:56] » All say I

[48:04] » move on to town number two budget.

[48:21] So, general fund estimated cash right now is

[48:27] at 34%. That assumes a revenue of $33,100

[48:33] and general fund and expenses of 715,800

[48:39] which is um on the second page you can kind of see the where those estimates

[48:45] are coming from. Um, on the revenue side, the 8,000

[48:50] represents about like 17% which is typically what we get of delinquent

[48:56] taxes in the month of December. So, I would expect we're going to be up

[49:02] quite a few currently, more than probably normal. So, that number might

[49:07] be a bit higher. Um,

[49:11] on the expense side, we still have to transfer cash from road bridge. Um,

[49:16] some emergency management joint law. I just put an estimate there. I think

[49:20] between the two that 30,000 will be enough. The bills

[49:26] from today that 11,000 doesn't include payroll.

[49:31] Sorry about the remaining department expenditures that number.

[49:38] So, and then I would estimate it will be about 200,000

[49:43] under budget in general fund. Um, so if you flip to the last page, the

[49:50] contingency transfer amount, you can see kind of where each

[49:57] activity within the general fund is at.

[50:02] um that estimate is closer to 250 but just in case you have some other things

[50:08] come up for the cash estimate I use 200 so that might be a bit better than

[50:14] expected also

[50:18] but even if we have a bit more revenue and less or more expense I I don't

[50:25] expect we'll have to assign or unassign cash but if we're getting close that we

[50:30] have to assign We will have to unassign the planned $300,000

[50:35] that we budgeted for in 2026. We'll unsign that, but I don't expect we'll

[50:40] have to assign any additional dollars or unassign any additional other than what

[50:46] was budgeted.

[50:50] » No, on the 30th. Yeah, on the 30th. So, as the month of December

[50:55] moves on, I will, >> you know, those estimates will become

[51:05] Um the contingency transfer right now we budgeted 15,000 it's looking about

[51:12] 44,500 will be used

[51:18] » or unused >> will be used. So that would be under

[51:22] that's maybe a bulk of that. The contingency coming in under budget

[51:28] of 105,000 is about half of the general fund budget surplus

[51:36] if you will. >> What is GS GS G?

[51:41] » It's GIS the global information systems. >> Yes.

[51:51] So when we added that plat that the ones in gray are the departments needing the

[51:58] a contingency transfer right now. So GIS they got done with that plat layer

[52:02] earlier than we budgeted for in 26 but they finished ahead of schedule. So

[52:09] » basically the updating is that like change in stuff like that or what

[52:15] exactly are they updating when they're doing this or is this So, we added the

[52:20] rural plat layer. So, we added a layer. The updates are included in our um

[52:26] » yeah, the $1,500 that we pay. They update all like

[52:31] » um for instance, the plat we just passed

[52:36] today, once it is recorded and approved, then that would be available on GIS. So,

[52:40] you could see that that that there is a plat out there in the country.

[52:46] » Can you go over the

[52:52] transfer.

[52:56] better for the next year.

[53:02] » The government building has a lot that extra stuff.

[53:17] » Yeah. So, I guess 1,500 of that is we under budgeted in travel.

[53:31] And we did increase that in 26. So that should be better. Um, property insurance

[53:39] was the other 3,800.

[53:46] » No commissioners. This is all under commissioner. So contributing to the 70

[53:51] » 7500. >> Yes, the 7500. about 35 or 3,800 was

[53:56] property insurance and we did increase that this year publishing

[54:03] we increase for commission minutes publishing and drainage we increase both

[54:09] of those line items. So yes commission should be um a better

[54:15] estimate next year was the addition of the west law

[54:22] um court attorney is

[54:28] more people use that

[54:35] » a moving target and we decreased that for next year. So I guess we'll hope for

[54:42] the best um government building with the

[54:47] um repairs

[55:01] Yeah, I guess we're under budget in a few other areas, but the repair is line

[55:07] item is over by 16,000.

[55:13] » So that's the I guess main contributor. >> GIS, we talked about that.

[55:20] 911. >> Yeah. So 911, they increased the search

[55:24] charge at the legislature a couple years ago. So that transfer, yes, it's going

[55:30] to use a contingency transfer, but it's not true um additional cash. So every

[55:36] dollar that we receive in from the search charge, we have to remit 100% to

[55:41] our um PAP. So we took in a dollar more. We have to pay a dollar less or the same

[55:49] dollar. I'm sorry. >> Yeah. Sure.

[55:53] » Yes. So we had additional revenue and but the expense was also additional. We

[55:59] didn't budget enough but it's so it needs a contingency transfer but it's

[56:03] not true. >> It funded

[56:05] » dollars spent. Yes. Yes. The general fund isn't the general fund is giving

[56:12] budget authority. It's not given cash that there's enough cash to support

[56:18] itself, but it needs budget authority to spend the cash it already has. If that

[56:22] makes sense. You need both. You need cash and you need budget.

[56:33] » So we won't we won't >> we won't have to

[56:41] continue. I'll have a a contingency resolution on the 30th along with the

[56:46] exact um cash transfers. This is just a estimate of what I think will happen on

[56:52] the 30th as of right now. >> The sheriff's

[56:58] I realize we have one more reading this correctly $60,67.

[57:04] » So most of that was with the joint joint laws is a special revenue fund. So when

[57:10] that officer was was gone for a period of the year, then the officer that's

[57:17] paid out of general fund took over those hours. So, we paid that person.

[57:24] » Um, Deputy White, we paid out of joint law because he was covering those hours.

[57:30] So, it looks like there's 60,000, but it's not true.

[57:35] » Yes. the the surplus was actually in in joint law, but we had an officer that we

[57:41] had to move with the staff and change for a period of the year.

[57:49] » Any other questions? That's what we're here for.

[57:52] » Um, so then in Ron Bridge, okay, that's general fund

[57:59] bridge with the bills today payroll.

[58:06] then that would leave budget of 430,000 very approximately left. So with that

[58:13] 430, you know, we talked about moving

[58:17] expenses up, but that's the number for December after payroll and after today's

[58:23] bills.

[58:28] » I I took payroll out of that. Yeah. >> So total budget left is like six

[58:35] 610. Okay. So then once you remove today's bills, an estimate for today's

[58:39] bills and the estimate for payroll, then that would leave 430 for everything else

[58:44] in the month of December, whether that's,

[58:49] you know, whatever that is.

[58:55] » Did you find anything out with I can I can pay as much as I want to at

[59:00] the end of the year and the remainder after the first year. So we can do that

[59:05] and we can we'll discuss that more. >> Yeah. I just run. So cashwise

[59:15] at the estimated cash at the end of the year as if we use every all the budget

[59:27] and as long as the revenue I estimated revenue left of

[59:33] 530,000 which the bulk of that is the transfer budgeted transfer from general

[59:37] fund to road bridge but most of that at least 466,000

[59:42] will be we will have that and then there's also some um

[59:48] uh fourth quarter money that that is that will come yes revenue wise

[59:57] » but the other stuff as long as all that comes in as expected

[1:00:02] then cash is fine to spend the 430,000

[1:00:08] as long as we than that after payroll and today's bills.

[1:00:14] Um, so moving expenses up is fine, but it does leave budget wise, cashwise,

[1:00:21] it's fine. But then it also if that leads into a a time where we'll have to

[1:00:28] supplement later, then we'll be in the same cash.

[1:00:33] Ronbridge fund was very cash poor what, two, three years ago. We moved up a few

[1:00:39] projects. Um then last year we really, you know, kind of fixed that and went

[1:00:45] the other way with the budget surplus and and um just as we improved the cash

[1:00:53] position of the room bridge fund. So I just as long as we're moving expenses up

[1:01:00] to, you know, not add more that would require a budget supplement in 26 that's

[1:01:06] I that's fine or 27.

[1:01:12] You know, like right now I've got a fairly decent surplus of

[1:01:17] » otherwise at this time of year I've been spending 50 60,000 on pipes,

[1:01:23] you know, need to do that at this time. Um, yeah, I've been I've been looking

[1:01:29] at, you know, a part of that this year next year. The next headache we got

[1:01:36] going on is tractor issue. >> I got a question on the keeping it below

[1:01:42] 40%. So like Frederick School District Miller open they were all way over the

[1:01:49] state actually finds them 10% they're over would they do the same to the

[1:01:54] county? So schools with with the school now I'm

[1:02:00] obviously not school finance officer so I

[1:02:06] but with the state aid so the county is in a different position than a school

[1:02:11] because we have no state aid. Schools that receive state aid are held

[1:02:15] harmless. So if their revenues come in under what they expect the state they

[1:02:21] holds them harmless. So they would backfill them from the state general

[1:02:24] fund. So county we we have no there's nobody that's going to, you know, step

[1:02:30] in and help us if things go ary. It's it's there's no um

[1:02:36] there's nobody coming to the rescue. So So the the county, yes, we have to stay

[1:02:43] under 40%. And we will be well under 40%. We have to be above 20%. That's in

[1:02:51] statute. But then there's no um

[1:02:55] » if you aren't there's nothing that's >> no because there's there's nobody that's

[1:02:59] going to say oh you're at 15% you here's 5% more cash. No that's not going to

[1:03:06] happen. Um >> how about if you're older

[1:03:11] slap on the hand then >> it would be a written audit comment and

[1:03:16] then it would change um it could change some auditing requirements.

[1:03:21] Um but they

[1:03:25] so from my understanding when they were fined they were fined from their portion

[1:03:30] of state aid. So the state is saying I'm going to retain some of this these

[1:03:36] dollars that I had planned to give you. Now I'm not going to give this to you.

[1:03:41] But since we don't have a state aid or that function in county government I I

[1:03:48] guess I've never heard of anybody being fine.

[1:03:59] Okay, we'll move on to another further question. Are you contin?

[1:04:18] » Yeah. So the benefit sheet is the last sheet in tab two. Um this in January of

[1:04:26] each year. Um insurance deductions are taken most

[1:04:32] the month prior. So if if the board would plan any changes then

[1:04:39] it would need to know

[1:04:48] and changes as in any um change in the county's

[1:04:54] portion that they're paying for health insurance and 50% for dental vision and

[1:05:05] and also direction of what you would like to see either on

[1:05:11] the RA side or benefit side for the 12:30 meeting so I can

[1:05:18] prepare what you would like to look at.

[1:05:27] you met with Lauren this morning as far as the insurance side any increases?

[1:05:33] » Um some I think in my opinion I think the 600 is still sufficient for the

[1:05:41] majority and the county 100% towards the employees monthly premium

[1:05:48] and then 600 if

[1:05:53] or 600 total towards if they have a family plan. say my premium's 500 my

[1:05:58] dependence on the plan and an extra 100 be available for whoever else is on that

[1:06:05] plan >> up to the max of 600 then on the other

[1:06:10] side if my premium is $700 then there's no additional dependence on

[1:06:18] that employees responsibility >> so that

[1:06:22] sufficient

[1:06:26] Yes. >> Okay.

[1:06:28] How many employees are

[1:06:34] the total?

[1:06:37] » Well, I think

[1:06:52] I'd have to be looking

[1:07:00] That's a

[1:07:04] » under 20. I believe it's like 25 or so.

[1:07:23] We have the health

[1:07:33] reason to make any changes. Uh the back page has benefit

[1:07:41] 8 hours per average day

[1:07:46] down 5 10 15 18body

[1:07:52] 16 years employment or more

[1:08:06] That would be the only thing I have a question on. Is that

[1:08:12] something we've always done in the past 20 days that can carry over?

[1:08:20] The carryover is specified in our handbook which is adopted or

[1:08:27] changed.

[1:08:31] » Is that the same thing? Is that an old school?

[1:08:36] » No. >> Well, it is as in if if the employee

[1:08:42] works an extra hour, we have to have to either

[1:08:48] you have paid them the for the hour worked or an hour of comp time to be

[1:08:53] taken off at different times. >> So sick sick and vacation different or

[1:08:59] is that all together? Is that different? Is that separate?

[1:09:02] » Um it is separate. Yes.

[1:09:06] » So you got so many days for sick and so many days for vacation.

[1:09:09] » Yes.

[1:09:13] per

[1:09:21] » I mean as far as employees has been working fine any changes any complaints

[1:09:28] any suggestions from employees maybe we should be asking them also

[1:09:35] I don't think anybody's really had much to say about that the initial the

[1:09:40] initial new hire Five days a year can be a little bit

[1:09:45] tough, you know, but u I guess I try to work with them and make

[1:09:52] it work.

[1:09:57] Have you switched

[1:10:02] comparing this to other vacation other jobs

[1:10:13] like I said is something I've never

[1:10:18] there's places that allow more you know but I guess it's never been an issue

[1:10:26] and a half times your max.

[1:10:43] » Yeah. No, it's always been

[1:10:49] 28 hours.

[1:10:56] Well, something to think about if you is for December 30th meeting, do you

[1:11:03] want to do the two two and a half three again or something that

[1:11:10] show us show us different

[1:11:18] two and a half Any

[1:11:27] more on that line item? Do you have anything more than

[1:11:43] records? Have the opportunity to some rooms we've

[1:11:49] never seen before and different things.

[1:12:02] So, I have a suggestion.

[1:12:07] I understand anything that's been water damaged probably needs to go. That's

[1:12:11] obvious. Some was on the floor got damaged, but um could we take like the

[1:12:16] first 20 years What does it go back to? 1884.

[1:12:23] » Something like that. Just >> Yeah. Just the earliest books. The first

[1:12:26] 20 years of the earliest books. Move them up

[1:12:30] to some room upstairs. Put them on shelves and make room down there for a

[1:12:34] few years. Deal with it later instead of just toss

[1:12:38] it. Just a thought. I saw the uh when we

[1:12:43] were up looking at those rooms up there and it would be a fire hazard. There's

[1:12:48] no doubt about that. There's some McFersonen County Herald papers up there

[1:12:51] for for years. I couldn't you know some of the very

[1:12:56] first books and stuff go up there. Just a thought be a pain carrying them

[1:13:02] up there but

[1:13:06] I was down in the we were down in the treasure involved.

[1:13:12] And there's just tons of tax receipt books that really half of

[1:13:20] them don't have anything in them and the other half can't read.

[1:13:23] » Yeah, that's true.

[1:13:37] » Keep present day stuff organized better. Everything

[1:13:45] or maybe not all of the books. I don't think you should throw,

[1:13:49] » you know, >> keep a few of every year just so you can

[1:13:52] go back and look at that. I >> I don't have a problem with that at all.

[1:13:56] Be a tremendous amount of work to get out of there.

[1:14:10] I think the treasur's office and Lily's office are kind of the same situation

[1:14:15] when I observe both of them. There'd be some things that could be thrown away

[1:14:20] where you can organize the rest and then make a decision.

[1:14:25] » I just think it would be neat to have just a couple books from each year.

[1:14:29] Doesn't have to be a home. >> I thought just a thought.

[1:14:41] » But you know the treasure. >> Yeah. Just don't I can't see.

[1:14:52] » And you're right. It is hard to read. I quite a few.

[1:14:56] some of the curses. It's very neat. >> And and the thing is with the tax, it's

[1:15:01] not like

[1:15:06] » it's not it's not organized. >> It's not as they came in.

[1:15:09] » You have to look through all the books. >> I did.

[1:15:13] » Yeah. 1922 >> took a while.

[1:15:20] » Did anybody know

[1:15:26] They have accepted

[1:15:30] story.

[1:15:34] » I don't think it is. Is it warm? I think it's just one schoolhouse.

[1:15:39] » That would be a place. >> Yeah.

[1:15:41] » For access to some of that stuff rather than carrying up.

[1:15:49] That way the public access

[1:16:06] remember that day years ago and Steve had us burn.

[1:16:13] There was a lot of boxes of stuff.

[1:16:20] That would be the biggest

[1:16:25] problem getting.

[1:16:32] She said if you keep something from every year are we really I mean we are

[1:16:36] eliminating some of our issues or problem but we're not we are

[1:16:42] » just a thought you know >> all there's some some of those books are

[1:16:47] really ornate leather >> well you know those those aren't the

[1:16:52] ones that she would eliminate >> the ones with the fancy binders they

[1:16:56] were going to be put >> they were going to be put in a section

[1:17:00] » it's it's the tax receipts, >> right?

[1:17:03] basically >> that she said I could get rid of all of

[1:17:06] these except up to 20 years the last

[1:17:16] they are you know I don't know what year they started put them on computer but

[1:17:23] chances are something

[1:17:31] » I have

[1:17:37] And if you keep them, who's going to go down those steps to look at? If you

[1:17:42] don't have them at a place for the public access, what if we just keep a

[1:17:46] couple of those ornate books for display in the case? Wouldn't take up any room.

[1:17:51] » Yeah. >> People could appreciate.

[1:17:53] » They're kind of cool. >> Yeah. You know, we don't need 20 years

[1:17:57] of those either. >> No. um whether it's one book or two

[1:18:01] books per year. >> Yeah.

[1:18:03] » And a book from every year that's 100 books.

[1:18:08] » So I think I think if we're going to do something we we make the motion to

[1:18:13] destroy records that have met the retention period with the exception of a

[1:18:17] couple choice books and put them on display. But a generic

[1:18:22] book like a lot of those tax records look the same book 60 years.

[1:18:27] » Don't Um, so you might your motion would

[1:18:33] include the discretion of the women office to make that what books would go

[1:18:38] in the case then? >> Sure. I mean, we could also like if Sid

[1:18:42] wants to, >> but I would I wouldn't keep more than 10

[1:18:46] books, you know. Just the only problem is if I'm down that I might damage,

[1:18:54] » you might be carrying him up to third. It's a liability issue that we're

[1:19:00] talking about going down those steps, you know, let anybody just go down

[1:19:04] there, you know, purpose. >> I think if the department heads are

[1:19:08] comfortable and taking control of managing their

[1:19:12] retention metal, we should let them have the reigns.

[1:19:19] is um >> I know our wish is we like to keep a

[1:19:22] couple books they can >> s Mike you want to be in contact with

[1:19:27] whoever is in charge of the museum and I can talk to somebody if there would be

[1:19:32] an area we could speak a couple >> okay

[1:19:38] and then the rest

[1:19:43] » okay

[1:19:46] so motion to first one there

[1:19:51] destroy certain records that have met the retention period.

[1:20:00] We want to we'll make a motion today before they do anything. They probably

[1:20:05] do anything out the window right now anyway.

[1:20:18] today. That's fine. >> Is Joyce Joyce

[1:20:26] » I think her name did come up at one point.

[1:20:29] » Why don't we include that motion supposed to pick out some type

[1:20:37] » between

[1:20:47] A motion by Mike. Second. >> Second.

[1:20:50] » Second by Neil. Any other additions? Any discussion? Anything else?

[1:20:55] » All in favor say I. >> I.

[1:20:57] » All oppose. Motion carried.

[1:21:17] Is there more to that line item there?

[1:21:27] » Is that the same? >> No. On the courthouse records there,

[1:21:30] there's discussion action on what we just to destroy the records that have

[1:21:36] met the retention period. But then there's the next line that says

[1:21:41] » to follow the retention manuals

[1:21:45] » going forward. So as they have met their retention period to allow each

[1:21:52] department to follow their retention manual as prescribed by the state of

[1:21:58] South Dakota and records management. >> I would make a motion to have the

[1:22:06] heads of each department follow the record retention manuals

[1:22:10] prescribed as by the Second

[1:22:16] » motion by second

[1:22:23] basically saying anything forward

[1:22:30] which includes notification to the state.

[1:22:38] We have a plan.

[1:22:42] Okay. On the courthouse maintenance, did you send this out to all

[1:22:47] commissioners? >> Yes.

[1:22:50] » You got the wish list here

[1:22:56] when we were down in that vault on the north side.

[1:23:02] The ice building up that window. Is that one that's supposed to be

[1:23:07] replaced? >> Yes.

[1:23:26] This would be I mean any of these things would be probably a 2026 expense

[1:23:32] assumingly do we have a we

[1:23:37] have a certain amount of budget that we would have

[1:23:41] spent on the building. We budgeted, we didn't budget for any

[1:23:49] additional projects. We budgeted for what we normally an average of what we

[1:23:54] normally spend on repairs each year. >> We didn't budget like for a window

[1:24:00] project. So if we did decide to do one, it would have to come with a contingency

[1:24:05] right away. just saying no need to or move some contingency to

[1:24:12] supplement that with this project. >> I guess correct me,000.

[1:24:21] So we did it we did increase it a little bit but it's still

[1:24:36] looking at that. I'm probably

[1:24:51] glass.

[1:25:01] I'm not really sure off the top of my head.

[1:25:05] So there's >> there's seven windows on third floor.

[1:25:11] » There's it two or three on the west and three or

[1:25:16] four on the north. However it works out >> of the

[1:25:22] northwest corner. 10 total. And then there's the two vault windows.

[1:25:28] » One was the north side, >> one on the south side. And then there's

[1:25:32] a window just what is it? To the >> to the east of

[1:25:37] » east of the north door that is in a storage room

[1:25:42] that doesn't need to be operational. And so

[1:25:47] if you look at that, there's two two proposals there from

[1:25:51] House of Glass. Um so with those

[1:25:57] two windows in the vault areas um the one estimate basically has a

[1:26:03] window designed like has an operational pain

[1:26:08] what we have in offices or there's a couple on the steps

[1:26:13] the sash folds into the building you know it's hinged at the bottom

[1:26:21] and so anyways uh The discussion was with these vaults and

[1:26:26] maybe records passing through versus coming up the steps, is that size big

[1:26:33] enough? The window can be taken apart and put back together fairly

[1:26:40] simple or we had him price out a size of what would be a single home window. So

[1:26:48] would look a little different because the proportions are different.

[1:26:54] be more of a 50/50 split than a 6030 split. And uh how many people even know

[1:27:01] what window looks like now? And it's the same thing. It's a single hung

[1:27:07] version now. So it' be basically I think it's a few hundred bucks cheaper. I

[1:27:12] remember the notes right to go with a single hung window that would give you a

[1:27:18] larger access. And uh it just look different than the

[1:27:24] windows that have been done.

[1:27:29] » How many people noticed that really know what it looks like?

[1:27:32] » So for a few hundred bucks, you gain a

[1:27:37] little concern

[1:27:43] as far as getting books out of there. >> Yep. I talked to both one house.

[1:27:53] It says use of our equipment to install

[1:28:00] use of equipment on jobs. Is that their use of equipment?

[1:28:04] » I think that's their use.

[1:28:08] » We don't have to mess with that. They have

[1:28:12] » they would talk to them about not using the chair lift.

[1:28:18] I was told they had in the past and potentially what created a lot of

[1:28:22] problems with that. So Evan was made aware of that.

[1:28:28] » Damage is done. But >> we'll just have to put make sure when

[1:28:30] they come we put a side out of order.

[1:28:36] » I'm not sure if he went back and gave anybody a WTF, but he was not aware of

[1:28:41] that information when I brought it up to him.

[1:28:48] So the first one

[1:28:54] » to disposal. If you look on >> this,

[1:29:00] » yeah, it says second two first floor single hung windows.

[1:29:06] It's the second page in that staple package where there's

[1:29:10] » um

[1:29:15] It looks like they're dividing 54 in into half. So that would be a single

[1:29:21] hung. And then if you go to that second

[1:29:25] packet, that's showing the 20 in. This is a I

[1:29:30] believe fixed panel. Yeah. Nine total without vent.

[1:29:41] » Yep.

[1:29:44] That don't make sense because actually >> two of those should have had vents

[1:29:50] which would also just increase the price of that estimate. So the first estimate

[1:29:57] with the seven for the third floor with no vents,

[1:30:01] the two first floor vault area that would be a single hung vent. And then

[1:30:08] the single first floor window would be no vent in that as well. That

[1:30:14] storage room, it's it's a basement room, but it's way high you can't get to it

[1:30:20] anyways.

[1:30:26] » I mean, you still >> It's so hard to get to

[1:30:31] » the basement. the windows. >> It's like eight or nine feet higher than

[1:30:36] the floor and it's on a ledge back and there's a heat pipe at least one that

[1:30:44] runs through there. So, it's >> easily

[1:30:47] » kind of maze to get to it. I'd be concerned if anything is not

[1:31:00] » don't have any but again would not be very easily accessible to open that.

[1:31:11] » So you're saying Mike the larger windows that would be like 5050 would be a

[1:31:17] little higher. >> No that's going to be a cheaper

[1:31:27] » because if you look that second quote is is 42,800

[1:31:35] but I didn't catch that. He didn't he's got nine with

[1:31:42] Oh no, it does say two would get bent. Nine total. Two would get bent. That was

[1:31:46] what he was supposed to do. So that estimate has got to be accurate. It's

[1:31:51] 42,833.

[1:31:54] The two windows that would or the estimate that would give us two windows

[1:31:58] that are a little larger would be 42,286.

[1:32:03] So, $600

[1:32:12] a little. So that's a new I would think motion to if we're

[1:32:19] ready to spend that money. We don't have to do all the windows at this time. If

[1:32:24] you wanted to do the two windows last time we did 44

[1:32:40] down the road, you're going to have You'd have to redo

[1:32:45] » more expenses at the end.

[1:32:54] » Okay. I just Well, we can come back on that, but when we go through that list

[1:32:58] of that inventory list, is there anything else on there that's priority?

[1:33:05] I think that roof should probably

[1:33:17] put this all together.

[1:33:25] » That's a special order one too, right? >> Yes.

[1:33:28] » Was that just a screen door? >> Yeah, it's just like a storm door.

[1:33:32] » Storm door. >> It's

[1:33:35] They special. >> Yeah, we just uh maybe we should just

[1:33:38] look at replacing it with a steel door. Steel door with a frame.

[1:33:43] » That would be >> I think we have to do the roof, too.

[1:33:52] » Oh, that little >> bit of ta

[1:33:57] come up. >> Oh, okay. That can't be.

[1:34:03] » I thought you were talking about the little

[1:34:05] » by or something.

[1:34:13] » Shingles were laying on the roof. >> That's right.

[1:34:27] » Cut some thick styrofoight.

[1:34:32] We still have access,

[1:34:37] » but other than that, that dome was actually in

[1:34:40] » fairly good. >> I I just don't remember doing it.

[1:34:43] » I remember doing it >> after you said it. I remember that.

[1:34:49] » Okay. What else? >> Okay. Um, where we at with

[1:34:54] the courthouse security cameras, we have that

[1:35:01] » have an estimate. Well, electric

[1:35:14] and electrical

[1:35:18] and he said he would complete the county

[1:35:24] that one

[1:35:28] else.

[1:35:40] I am willing to donate a 170 John Deere more with

[1:35:47] the motor on the side

[1:35:53] for the time being

[1:35:57] 54 in 56

[1:36:04] That's okay with a year or two or you know and then you can sell it or what

[1:36:09] you want to do. >> I'm good with that.

[1:36:14] » Well, just save 78,000 for the time being and I will

[1:36:21] look nice >> tractor.

[1:36:34] I don't use it, but it has that sideway

[1:36:58] Don't they said he measured it?

[1:37:03] » The deck is 56. But does that blower >> that blower goes out the side? What did

[1:37:07] I measure out here? >> 60 in.

[1:37:10] » Yep. >> But if you don't have that blower on

[1:37:15] » Yeah. You put it on the

[1:37:20] » whole time anyway.

[1:37:25] » As long as it fits in.

[1:37:29] You're not catching the grass now.

[1:37:37] » That's an option for right now. >> It didn't make it on this list, but just

[1:37:42] the physical appearance of that shed >> wouldn't be hard to change that. It's a

[1:37:48] stud and plywood building. Remove the steel, put new steel on, maybe

[1:38:02] Yeah, it was actually talked about getting rid of that shed at one time.

[1:38:07] » What is it kind of plenty of room for?

[1:38:11] » All that's in there is a lawnmower. >> Okay.

[1:38:13] » I got rid of all the other stuff. >> You feel

[1:38:19] the garage? >> No, with all the vehicles and

[1:38:23] everything, it's pretty much used.

[1:38:32] Well, I used to be able to turn around there. I don't know how this will work,

[1:38:36] but

[1:38:42] » well that would be something. Do you want to stick depending upon who you

[1:38:47] have it with labor stick in the shed or you want to get rid of one vehicle over

[1:38:53] there? One more over there.

[1:38:59] over there pickups and then spare vehicle for the

[1:39:04] chair's department, right?

[1:39:23] » Let's take a look at it.

[1:39:34] the the structure seems okay, but cosmetically I mean it wasn't that long

[1:39:39] ago we were talking about the guard. So we're going to talk cosmetics. Let's

[1:39:45] talk cosmetics. Yeah, when I checks,

[1:39:53] » well, let's wait till spring up. They aren't going to do it through

[1:39:58] the winter anyway.

[1:40:02] » Dave, you know, if that's that's a possibility, that's what that building

[1:40:06] over there is for vehicle

[1:40:11] vehicle.

[1:40:19] Okay, right now we have the roof access door which Neil suggested a steel steel

[1:40:24] frame and also on the roof there and then possible

[1:40:30] insulation dome

[1:40:44] I know there's down.

[1:40:55] » Yeah.

[1:41:01] » He said he

[1:41:13] » I can get one. I didn't get one yet.

[1:41:20] » Not in all ways possible.

[1:41:34] » Let's go to the top one with the landscape circles. You know, we kind of

[1:41:37] talked about maybe some grasses, different things like that. Maybe

[1:41:41] putting an implement on there. Nothing that we have to decide today. Just think

[1:41:46] about that. Any other thoughts on that since last time? I I've looked around. I

[1:41:51] That's not a big >> something small.

[1:41:54] » That's like even that scraper

[1:42:01] » or something. >> But they pretty much have everything

[1:42:04] cleaned out. There's only one or two things over there.

[1:42:06] » Well, they moved them all back beside the buildings for some reason. So, there

[1:42:12] are I just always had

[1:42:18] like a one

[1:42:21] » or if anybody has something that they want to donate, you know, I don't know

[1:42:26] how we get it out to the public, put it on Facebook,

[1:42:30] do something like I said we can put a little plaque on it, donate it by

[1:42:36] whoever the family is. >> Who would want to do that?

[1:42:42] who would be capable of maybe somebody out there more than happy or more you

[1:42:47] might have to pick out of a hat >> you know something that would be part of

[1:42:52] the are you talking just the west side here then

[1:42:57] we could get two and if we only get one then

[1:43:02] something else >> I do like the idea you have to make them

[1:43:05] bigger

[1:43:10] » le more to take care of county department.

[1:43:30] Okay, I'll just give that some more thought.

[1:43:34] » As far as grasses, whatever you think.

[1:43:41] » Yeah, you said that you had some

[1:43:46] » grasses aren't that big. I got >> Yep. That would be nice. We have to buy

[1:43:51] a couple plants just to fill in with some color. I mean, it would just be a

[1:43:56] handful of them. The rock would be the only thing that we

[1:44:00] wouldn't have. >> My experience is that stuff gets so big.

[1:44:06] You think you got much? >> Yeah.

[1:44:12] Okay. Um basement

[1:44:19] for sheriff came electrical lighting door and move in the basement.

[1:44:26] The guy never got back to me. I checked with him on Friday.

[1:44:29] » Okay.

[1:44:33] » As far as

[1:44:44] city,

[1:44:48] get back to Mike. We'll move that on electrical.

[1:44:55] Is that We need to talk to him about that.

[1:44:58] » Okay. >> Uh we talked about

[1:45:02] security. Is that also involved in GAP?

[1:45:11] » Okay. Were we just going to lock that or what do hopes up

[1:45:17] about that door in the hallway? >> Yes. So we we formed the courthouse

[1:45:22] security committee. So then that committee has to what provide a

[1:45:28] recommendation. >> So before we decision on that I would

[1:45:33] like to meet with the whole committee and discuss if that's the direction that

[1:45:39] we need to go for security purposes

[1:45:44] but we needed to form this committee in order to apply for that

[1:45:49] » and that's what we just did.

[1:45:54] All right.

[1:45:58] Then we have the highway office mini.

[1:46:12] » Which ones are they? Is that the onetheast side?

[1:46:17] The two for the room in the highway office are all one unit

[1:46:24] right outside.

[1:46:30] » I don't know. Can you guys make heads or tails out of that? Is there one unit or

[1:46:38] two?

[1:46:45] 9 and two

[1:46:49] those things right there. >> I don't know.

[1:46:52] » I think so. Yeah. >> He tried to explain that to me, but that

[1:46:57] was one for the highway. >> Oh, that that's the 9K.

[1:47:02] » Yeah, I'm guess.

[1:47:09] There's two up there now, right?

[1:47:13] » I thought There's only two of these. >> Oh, that's the only one that's got three

[1:47:19] of them on one.

[1:47:25] » One unit, >> one unit outside runs three, two in the

[1:47:29] courtroom, one on the second floor.

[1:47:34] Then he did ask me about using for that.

[1:47:40] » Okay. I never said last time. >> Yeah, right. Is that heat in here? So,

[1:47:46] it's something that needs should be done now.

[1:47:52] » Well, it has just hasn't been working, has it?

[1:47:55] » So, it's something that you probably use in the spring and the fall of the year,

[1:47:58] right? When the temperature outside isn't extreme.

[1:48:01] » It says here it'll it can operate tous

[1:48:07] » and the other ones are not designed for that.

[1:48:10] » I think that's kind of I have I got a little bit of experience

[1:48:14] so I think that's kind of wishful thinking but

[1:48:17] » 15 wish

[1:48:22] was made when they originally purchased >> well I I don't think they

[1:48:27] » that's what I was told >> all that long either has it

[1:48:33] » 12 years >> probably

[1:48:38] the summer of 2017 >> Wowish

[1:48:48] Is this something we want to act on today? Basically with December coming

[1:48:52] up, there might be some

[1:48:58] waiting list to get the product and then putting it in.

[1:49:09] We're not really using it for heat. Got We're not using a tree.

[1:49:16] » Well, they can't because it doesn't >> Well, you can

[1:49:21] or you want it definitely

[1:49:26] utilizes it like when they have turn it on days ahead to help.

[1:49:33] » It's just such a big area. So cold

[1:49:40] for a couple days.

[1:49:53] » Price might go up. >> Yeah. I don't know what

[1:49:59] Same with the windows. So if we did both,000

[1:50:12] » 58 >> No 50

[1:50:17] windows were >> 43

[1:50:25] close to 60.

[1:50:30] » And what do we have in 46 budget.

[1:50:36] » What if we paid for half of it?

[1:50:46] Because it looks like we'll have a little extra

[1:50:54] replace,000.

[1:51:02] Check into the door. Neil, Mike,

[1:51:16] you know, it's a lot.

[1:51:22] You're

[1:51:27] going to need

[1:51:30] to fix the old ones up. They aren't working.

[1:51:35] They never really did work right.

[1:51:48] » Yeah, that's only one of them on there. Yeah, that's probably the issue.

[1:51:58] If you spend this kind of money, they don't work right away.

[1:52:05] » What I What does that sound like? What we

[1:52:18] » I'm in favor of doing all the windows. do five of them now then next time then

[1:52:22] they go up and then you got transportation you got labor goes up

[1:52:26] then you got another five six 7 thousand more next time do it and do it right

[1:52:32] » you know I think when we started with the exception of these we were doing

[1:52:36] these small if you' done them all would have been

[1:52:40] done

[1:52:47] » you kind of skipped over the

[1:52:53] I did get a hold of that guy. >> Where you at?

[1:53:00] » Yeah. >> Up City Roofing.

[1:53:04] » Oh, taking a Did they take a sample? >> Yeah.

[1:53:08] So, they took a multiple samples. I don't know how many for sure. But with

[1:53:14] the roof being sloped, you have a thicker and a thinner area. The thinnest

[1:53:18] area is near the drains. That's the lowest point of the roof. And they're

[1:53:23] saying that's an R value of seven. And then at the highest point, they're

[1:53:29] saying that's an R value of 21. And based on my experiences with our

[1:53:37] region, you should you insulate your home to about a 40,

[1:53:43] 50, even 60 if you want to spend the money to do it.

[1:53:47] And so there's not a lot of insulation up there.

[1:53:51] Um, what is it?

[1:53:56] » Actually, he said at those drains there's only about a half of an inch of

[1:54:00] insulation, but there's over seven inches of a drywall gypsson board

[1:54:06] material up there, which I never have. You ever heard of anything like that?

[1:54:21] So at any rate, he goes they they had whatever their tool was to cut these

[1:54:27] samples out with only maxed out at seven. Was it seven and a quarter? Was

[1:54:32] it nine? We don't know as of this. But at that rate, um,

[1:54:44] so

[1:54:49] just gypson board drywall just doesn't have much of it's like a half

[1:54:56] half of an art or not even I don't it's just little nothing. He said, "And if

[1:55:01] that rope is if that roof is tapered at a quarter inch per foot, which they

[1:55:06] weren't, they didn't verify that or not, but you're getting about one R value per

[1:55:12] foot of Yep. at a quarter inch rate. So, every inch is an R value. So,

[1:55:23] I asked him about, you know, we had talked a little bit previously about

[1:55:26] trying to blow in that area. where you go up that spiral staircase into that

[1:55:32] door. And um she said, you know,

[1:55:39] not an engineer. I take that same stance, too. If you do it, great. But

[1:55:47] something's got to be done with that space in there because now you're

[1:55:51] creating a space between two insulated areas and there's duct work in there.

[1:55:56] So, It's not just getting in estimate to

[1:56:01] spray blow insulation in that area. It's uh adding some sort of a vent of some

[1:56:09] sort in there and finding somebody that wants to crawl

[1:56:14] around on that plaster ceiling. Take the chances.

[1:56:17] » Yeah, that's

[1:56:22] » we got to fix plaster too. >> Well, maybe we should

[1:56:38] I'm sure the roof probably does too, but it doesn't leak.

[1:56:41] » He did say there was at least one drain that had some moisture near it when they

[1:56:49] took their sample by the drain. But he goes, "This guy didn't take the sample.

[1:56:54] One of his employees did." And He said a lot of times what they find is

[1:57:00] those areas right around the drain sometimes let go and it's pretty simple

[1:57:04] fix to just reseal that drain flange

[1:57:16] thing a little bit more contactious

[1:57:25] » they have a way Yeah,

[1:57:30] I think we just >> for sure

[1:57:34] I've got a buddy who's works at Helms. I don't know if he'd be the one or if he

[1:57:40] knows somebody that can come up here and look at it and look at the blueprints

[1:57:45] and try to make kids or tail of what we actually have for structure on that.

[1:57:52] » Yeah, because there's only Sure. It's kind of

[1:57:56] like a fiber that plast.

[1:58:00] » Yeah. Below that actual sloped insulation,

[1:58:05] » but uh we kind of looked at the blueprints and

[1:58:10] I'm I feel confident that that's the only access is in that staircase and

[1:58:18] then you got to make your way to the other end of the building.

[1:58:27] Okay, when you go to the back page and you notice that you look at the

[1:58:32] commission action needed, there's probably no further action

[1:58:37] original door handle taken care of the boiler. I I spoke to the gentleman when

[1:58:42] he put on those grades that day just happened to stop by

[1:58:48] and he said there's always going to be

[1:58:53] asked the longevity of it could be close to 50 years and he said he said he was

[1:59:00] going to discuss with you sharing what needs to be done you know for

[1:59:06] springtime like that

[1:59:13] you don't know year to year on that rewaxing floors you see that no action

[1:59:19] taking need to be taken in plaster patching

[1:59:22] The only thing on the first page is still part of the courthouse steps.

[1:59:29] » Steps. Um, I guess we want to have

[1:59:37] Johnson and Joshy case it

[1:59:42] quoted 6500

[1:59:50] steps >> yeah they were doing but I think you

[1:59:55] guys were going to you had something you could put on the steps didn't you?

[1:59:58] » We put some

[2:00:02] broke out already.

[2:00:07] But yeah, I guess any more than that we had talked about.

[2:00:12] What were you thinking? >> No, that's just kind of what we had

[2:00:14] thought we were going to see. So when did you do that? Was that before the

[2:00:18] last meeting? >> Yeah.

[2:00:20] » I haven't seen >> you know that's just it. Not a lot of

[2:00:24] people use that door.

[2:00:29] Skim coat the whole works. Is that something that could be done?

[2:00:35] » What's that? >> It could be done.

[2:00:36] » Yeah. >> Is that the type of stuff you used? I

[2:00:40] don't know what he used for sure. >> This is just

[2:00:44] It's like epoxy bridge patches. It's a concrete, but it uh stuff we can use on

[2:00:50] bridges. You can actually put it on underwater.

[2:00:54] It's sets up fast. >> So, what's it come in like?

[2:01:01] Just a bag like mix it with water.

[2:01:06] » Yeah, but you only got minutes with this stuff. This fixes the holes. But I

[2:01:11] wouldn't Whereas like a skim, you want something different.

[2:01:16] This you can fill in a hole. You only got like 10 minutes to work

[2:01:22] with it. It's It's quick. >> And that's what you put on those edges.

[2:01:28] Some of them I didn't take a look at that.

[2:01:33] » You know, we could fill in the divots and stuff with that for as far as the

[2:01:37] skin coat. Guy would want to do something different, research something

[2:01:41] different.

[2:01:45] Our church is just I don't remember what it was called. Just mix powder mix that

[2:01:52] she mixed up on it.

[2:01:57] It's out of years over a year. I don't remember

[2:02:03] last year.

[2:02:07] » So when you put that stuff on, you went off the side too.

[2:02:14] » You put that on the pillars. uh there I wouldn't think there

[2:02:22] even said that they make plywood form like rock design in it so they could

[2:02:28] frame it out.

[2:02:32] » Yeah. With the forms then pour the concrete in. He said you just vibrate

[2:02:37] like crazy and it fills that back side of the for you kind of design it. He

[2:02:41] said we have to do that. It was smooth to begin with

[2:02:49] and painted. >> You can do color.

[2:02:52] » Yeah, >> better

[2:02:57] painted the same as the foundation. >> Yeah, we want it to match the foundation

[2:03:02] for sure.

[2:03:05] » Would you >> unless they could do match that,

[2:03:09] » but we were talking about if we repaint it, maybe change the color of it.

[2:03:14] something more rather than that.

[2:03:19] » Sometimes you paint concrete too and you seal it. It's not you know it's almost

[2:03:23] concrete's kind of breathing.

[2:03:29] » I'll talk to Reed about it again. >> Okay.

[2:03:32] And really we aren't doing that spring. We've gotten

[2:03:45] many splits in the window,

[2:03:49] but it does say that 30 days.

[2:03:57] » Well, I think

[2:04:02] just be on the agenda for next month again.

[2:04:07] I'll make a motion that we do both mini splits or mini split

[2:04:12] JR and the windows with the house of glass would be the lower bid because you

[2:04:17] want the 50/50 split on those two windows in the vault

[2:04:25] and then the door upstairs too that comes out on the roof

[2:04:31] » whatever that comes in

[2:04:38] Okay.

[2:05:01] Okay. Okay, we have a motion represent. We have a second.

[2:05:04] » Have a second by Neil. Any other anything that you see?

[2:05:09] We got the windows. We've got the mini splits. We've got the

[2:05:14] door with the chin on the roof. How we going to handle the chin the chin on the

[2:05:19] roof? Is that going to be something

[2:05:24] we do that carpentry?

[2:05:29] You got somebody

[2:05:46] in somebody else that wants to

[2:05:55] » comes. Okay, I have a motion. I have a second.

[2:05:58] All in favor say I. >> I.

[2:06:00] » All opposed. Motion carried.

[2:06:07] » Was there anything else on that list that we need to discuss today? I think

[2:06:11] some of those things are strated. So,

[2:06:17] » good to have list. >> Well, I'm thinking lately. I asked Lely.

[2:06:22] That way we know >> what

[2:06:26] » try to stay ahead of the game.

[2:06:33] » Sure. Do you have anything else?

[2:06:40] » That'll motion to take the snow removal off the

[2:06:46] table. >> Motion. We have a second.

[2:06:49] » I'll second. >> Second. All in favor say I. I motion

[2:06:53] carried to discuss line item

[2:07:04] $185.

[2:07:18] » Is this the same individual?

[2:07:29] Second discussion,

[2:07:33] correct? >> And that says low ice. Is that

[2:07:45] » okay? All in favor say I. All motion carried

[2:07:57] step out. I was going to move on to those two line items and then I'll break

[2:08:02] for lunch.

[2:08:07] » Yeah, the community nursing Lisa said >> on

[2:08:13] Wednesday I talked to her. She said she had heard back from was legal. So she

[2:08:19] sent it on to Austin in its draft form. Austin said you could look at it, but

[2:08:26] until a very, you know, he said, "I would hate to

[2:08:30] have the commission approve it and then a Vera comes back and changes it once

[2:08:35] they're legal does look at it." So I guess we're kind of just waiting for to

[2:08:41] get a contract. means we didn't budget anything for 26 for it. It's really not

[2:08:46] going to matter. We can have

[2:08:57] table >> there's nothing to review yet but she

[2:09:03] hopes maybe by the next meeting of January future meeting

[2:09:10] » I believe

[2:09:30] Okay. The three line items emergency management that involves Dave.

[2:09:38] So, um

[2:09:45] after lunch

[2:09:49] right away that involves anything else on here,

[2:10:01] you're okay to break for lunch. >> Okay. Uh one

[2:10:06] quarter to one.

[2:10:16] » Thank you.

[2:10:21] » Thank

[2:10:45] That's a long time.

[2:10:53] » Okay, we're going to start up 11

[2:11:00] portion.

[2:11:03] We have the next sheriff's department and emergency management will fall

[2:11:10] under.

[2:11:17] Okay. The first tab there you'll see 4x4 special service package

[2:11:25] options would be the 47,000. Some of those could come off of there, but then

[2:11:29] we have plus options. Dave will get us that by December 30th meeting.

[2:11:35] » Yeah. Just bring

[2:11:39] the vehicles now,000.

[2:11:50] » I will consider for the December meeting with

[2:11:56] the requested options.

[2:12:02] Typically, it's not too

[2:12:07] possible.

[2:12:15] Dave indicated if we wouldn't order one in 2026, the following year we'd have

[2:12:20] 27, 28, and 29, we'd have three in a row. Just something to keep in mind.

[2:12:26] We put it in budget. >> Yes.

[2:12:33] » So you have the options and

[2:12:39] it

[2:12:45] you have the pickles now. Do they have the

[2:12:51] » Yeah, they they've been doing they've been doing fine. They're holding

[2:12:54] together. the 2019 that we handed down to the highway department.

[2:13:03] » I kind of Well, I shouldn't say that. Rick confiscated it.

[2:13:09] » So, I guess it seems I think it's okay.

[2:13:18] Okay, we'll move on to the next

[2:13:24] toilet.

[2:13:33] And the reason for this being the price it is, it's stainless steel, right?

[2:13:43] » Explain what that consists of. >> So, it's a

[2:13:48] laboratory toilet sink

[2:14:02] the duration that you may someone in that cell

[2:14:07] is to have this facility >> I think it's pretty important

[2:14:17] pretty much complete the one cell.

[2:14:25] Otherwise, you would have to remove them from the jail cells.

[2:14:37] » Mr. Chair. >> Yes.

[2:14:39] » I had the question. >> Y

[2:14:43] County. I just I'm not quite understanding

[2:14:46] what sort of uh

[2:14:51] what sort of criminals will you be keeping there for how long?

[2:14:55] » Not not any longer than 8 hours. That would be the maximum unless there's

[2:14:59] other circumstances that would dictate. Give you an example.

[2:15:06] Many times that I've been on the road conditions nice

[2:15:12] secure faced

[2:15:33] require somebody to be there at all time.

[2:15:36] » What about nursing staff? nursing staff

[2:15:50] into

[2:15:56] » then how will you get them if they're very intoxicated

[2:16:00] up to that cell? very

[2:16:08] » well. >> I'm just trying to understand

[2:16:12] » those those are variables. I would rather not.

[2:16:26] » So, do they come to the cell for the blood draw or do you take them to the

[2:16:30] hospital?

[2:16:40] So if you pick somebody up, it doesn't matter.

[2:16:51] » Well, it it depends on what the arrest is for, but at that time if that deputy

[2:16:56] has been out for, you know, 10 12 hours already, that would an opportunity to

[2:17:02] get somebody whomever to come out and make the

[2:17:07] transport.

[2:17:27] » The way I look at it, I guess the deputy is going to

[2:17:33] provide something.

[2:17:40] » And what other things are involved that are not on here that would have to be

[2:17:45] done to that cell? >> We talked about that earlier.

[2:17:49] Insurance company has has given us a list of items that need to be done to

[2:17:54] that cell in order for it to be compant. This is one. There's a hanging

[2:18:02] heater hot water heating. There's a that covers

[2:18:08] the radiator that needs to be secured. There is a glass lens covering the light

[2:18:17] picture. And they recommended that we put some sort of metal mesh over the top

[2:18:24] of that to prevent the glass.

[2:18:43] Go ahead.

[2:18:46] » Anyway, um I have a question with the ADA compiance. If you just have the

[2:18:50] stair chair, how do you keep somebody that's drunk in the stair chair?

[2:18:55] I'm just asking It would be a challenge, but if there's

[2:18:59] somebody that is that is handicapped, we're not.

[2:19:06] » Okay. So,

[2:19:21] questions, concerns.

[2:19:27] Okay. As far as we go ahead with this funding, there was nothing

[2:19:35] budgeted for this year. I We would have the funds in our jail.

[2:19:46] » Yes, that one there's 19,000.

[2:19:57] You have one in custody.

[2:20:09] » Well, I behind this

[2:20:17] before police want to help them in any way.

[2:20:22] Helps with safety issues for our officers. I'm all for it.

[2:20:27] It's probably not going to be used a whole lot, but I can see how

[2:20:33] it so I would I would like to see this go

[2:20:39] forward.

[2:20:53] Are there any other

[2:20:57] not involvements

[2:21:03] over there as far as the jail cell would be complete?

[2:21:07] » Major

[2:21:10] mattress that you can put on the floor that some

[2:21:16] Clear for it.

[2:21:29] » No, it should be it should be mattress

[2:21:36] locks on the door.

[2:21:43] Is that the type of toilet they had in there before?

[2:21:50] » With a sink on it, too.

[2:21:55] » They were fully functional.

[2:22:01] » You can't use

[2:22:07] That would be my guess. Stainless steel industry standard.

[2:22:23] » Anybody else got any thoughts?

[2:22:35] We have a motion on the floor from Was that a motion? It wasn't.

[2:22:41] » We have a motion on the floor to purchase

[2:22:46] combination with 435762.

[2:22:52] We have a second.

[2:22:56] We have a second.

[2:22:59] All in favor say I. >> I.

[2:23:02] » I. Opposed.

[2:23:04] » I motion carried.

[2:23:09] » Okay.

[2:23:14] Um anything

[2:23:34] here right now scheduled to hopefully graduate in February.

[2:23:47] Okay, the facility city discussion on Leola joint law. I

[2:23:54] want to thank Sheriff and the rest of you

[2:23:59] commissioners for attending last night. I think that was very professional on

[2:24:02] our part and listen and to be attending, taking time out of your busy schedules.

[2:24:10] Basically, they have decided to name the joint law.

[2:24:16] » Did they do that the last meeting or was it last night?

[2:24:19] » Well, we have a formal

[2:24:23] sent.

[2:24:39] um discussion or you know concerns were who

[2:24:44] do we call if we don't have a joint after January 1st and

[2:24:49] we'll discuss with Dave until the end of day but

[2:24:54] felt it be great recommendation that if there is anything

[2:24:59] go

[2:25:03] sheriff's department be contacted any concerns

[2:25:07] I think that's the way to

[2:25:14] I know we it was kind of brought up as

[2:25:19] far as traffic controls and stuff like that. What are your

[2:25:24] thoughts on that? >> We are happy to help out when requested

[2:25:31] because that's how it's been working in most of the communities

[2:25:37] for the

[2:25:47] of course we talked about this last reactive type

[2:25:54] sheriff's department for you know

[2:26:15] say I'm concerned about things that could possibly

[2:26:23] happen.

[2:26:30] People that were not in attendance, the commissioners and chair

[2:26:36] made it perfectly clear that if something changes, you know what? Keep

[2:26:41] the communication might be reintegrated to keep the communication lines open and

[2:26:46] if something changes, come talk to us.

[2:26:51] We'll discuss. I don't think there's anything more we

[2:26:54] need to. But I did think it was interesting this

[2:26:59] morning that you see on land and maybe you know this Minihaha County is

[2:27:05] contracting with eight surrounding communities

[2:27:09] to do their policing resolving police.

[2:27:16] Yeah, very

[2:27:20] expensive

[2:27:31] » and getting

[2:27:35] » both related to last night and just in general knowledge. What what is a

[2:27:42] limit to when you could should call 911? Speaking of last night on that example I

[2:27:50] brought up about the exhibition, >> would you really expect

[2:27:56] someone to call 911 on that? Would they be better off

[2:28:02] » calling sheriff's office? >> No, I think that's what it's for, Mike.

[2:28:05] » 911 even the best way to get to the person that's

[2:28:12] on duty and actually >> things have changed. I mean when I

[2:28:18] started cell phones were just and now our calls for service increased

[2:28:24] because of the availability of a phone used to stop in the farmer's yard

[2:28:40] » and then it also sets up that record that you have

[2:28:44] even an issue.

[2:28:52] Okay, if there's no further discussion on that, we'll move on to

[2:28:59] just a brief update. I did have a correspondence

[2:29:09] emergency manager and their commission has encouraged him to continue looking

[2:29:16] something

[2:29:22] a little bit more process

[2:29:28] when we visited with county. We were kind of

[2:29:33] thinking that if that were to happen, we'd still want, you know, kind of a

[2:29:38] point person in our county, which would possibly be

[2:29:45] For sure. It's more than just one personally

[2:29:52] move towards the regional concept. >> The distance.

[2:29:57] » Yes, absolutely. >> Did you guys happen to see the article

[2:30:00] on the insider? No. They have an interview. Did you

[2:30:06] basically was a report on the commissioner's meeting and what Scott

[2:30:09] had brought to those guys? the last

[2:30:14] two three weeks ago whenever

[2:30:18] county had the last commission meeting but right after that

[2:30:22] » okay it's any more detail than that or just

[2:30:25] » well they mentioned in it my father read it to me over the phone

[2:30:29] so I don't have the memory of words but something about how

[2:30:35] it was discussed that being such a large area a deputy would be needed because it

[2:30:39] would be over an for everybody to respond to Eureka. And

[2:30:43] so that was made public. Um there was some other discussion that I never did

[2:30:49] follow up on because it was just silly, but it stemmed from this article and uh

[2:30:58] I think the gist is we're we're starting communication about what to do for a

[2:31:05] management in the emergency manager position. I guess

[2:31:11] financially probably makes sense to join forces.

[2:31:16] They do the they mentioned doing the administrative part on their end and

[2:31:21] then having a deputy on site on our end. >> I don't know. It's probably got to be

[2:31:27] cheaper than having an administrator such as yourself in

[2:31:32] county. Would you think >> it could be hard to say today? I can

[2:31:37] tell you that. Well, that's another thing, too, because

[2:31:43] you already have a county vehicle. That vehicle for me would be a big expense if

[2:31:49] somebody not already part of the county, not just the salary

[2:31:55] may have to go up to. We don't know that, but also the

[2:32:01] infrastructure.

[2:32:06] Well, let's see what they bring back to us and go from there.

[2:32:09] » Is Is that the plan? They're going to bring something to us.

[2:32:17] » Okay, Dave, do you have anything else for us?

[2:32:25] » Well, well, I'll ask you later.

[2:32:32] » Number six.

[2:32:41] to occupy right away.

[2:32:46] We didn't make one last

[2:33:04] Valley is very fiber optic. White is a 2 inhib.

[2:33:27] » I went through them. They were all >> okay.

[2:33:32] » You're good.

[2:33:37] We have a motion by Jeff. Second by

[2:33:43] say I >> I

[2:33:48] surplus.

[2:33:51] » Yeah. Um since we got the last one from uh Dave

[2:33:56] Sheriff's Department, we decided that uh time to move one of those down the road.

[2:34:00] This This one's got a lot of miles on it, as do several of the pickups we

[2:34:04] have. But, uh, felt it be kind to send this one this one away. But

[2:34:09] » one, >> uh,

[2:34:13] I don't think so. Not this one. >> That's the blue one.

[2:34:22] » Really?

[2:34:25] » I remember looking at that when you first got it.

[2:34:28] I treated us very well. >> It's still I mean it it runs pretty

[2:34:35] pretty good for a pickup that's got 23 239,000 miles on it. Um everything

[2:34:40] works. Um just depends how you guys want to, you know, get rid of it. If you want

[2:34:45] to advertise and do it here, if you want to do it at this spring, this coming

[2:34:49] spring at the auction across the street, or if you want to do next spring,

[2:34:54] however you guys want to do it, I'll I'll sit on it till that time.

[2:35:00] » Kind of seem to do okay across the street.

[2:35:04] » I think so. >> One thing about it here, we give the

[2:35:06] local people a chance to bid on it. So, >> um, yeah. So I guess I'll motion to

[2:35:15] surplus that vehicle. >> I motion

[2:35:21] second by Jeff.

[2:35:29] » Okay. >> All right. All in favor say I.

[2:35:32] » I motion carried usually in May.

[2:35:37] » Yeah. First weekend in May. >> So all right. Number three, police

[2:35:43] tractors. Um,

[2:35:46] there it's not 100%, but it sounds like probably not going to be getting

[2:35:51] tractors anymore. Um, and if we do, it's not going to be $25 an hour anymore.

[2:35:57] Sounds like it's probably look a lot more like $75 an hour. So, it's going to

[2:36:02] be quite a bit quite a bit of difference. The we just turned hours

[2:36:07] back and we just the bill will be coming through. So for the three tractors,

[2:36:11] we're looking at $16,000 this year. So triple that triple that for for next

[2:36:18] year if if the tractors available. They're not saying there's going to be

[2:36:22] thing available. Um >> program these all three ours.

[2:36:29] » No, these were our soil conservation had tractors too.

[2:36:32] » They get through >> but but they have them through CNB and

[2:36:35] CNB completely dropped it. >> That's right.

[2:36:38] » And then Yeah, they they talked to uh Valley too

[2:36:44] of actually and I think the same thing I think same answer that I'm getting but

[2:36:51] not doing it at all. >> Nobody is

[2:36:56] expensive. >> Whatever the reason being, it's done.

[2:37:01] So, um I'm I'm going to stay in touch with Ly for now. There is a possibility

[2:37:07] that we might have to come up with another tractor. I, you know, four is

[2:37:12] nice to be out mowing in the fall and get everything done quicker. Um, we can

[2:37:16] do it with three. I mean, we can do it with three. It's not as fast, but

[2:37:20] » but the one doesn't have PTO. >> The one our one tractor does not have

[2:37:24] the PTO like I explained in in the notes I've got. Um, it's been on the broom

[2:37:29] forever. It is tired. It's been overheated multiple times. Um, PTO quit

[2:37:36] working at the time. I came to you gentlemen or I came to the commission

[2:37:40] and uh the decision was made not to repair the PTO because six grand for the

[2:37:46] wiring harness, another 2 to 3,000 for installation and the decision was made

[2:37:52] to not because the feeling was that the tractor wasn't worth putting that kind

[2:37:57] of money into anymore. Um, you know, there's some parts of the wiring harness

[2:38:02] that we've bypassed things we could bypass. Uh, the front wheel assist is no

[2:38:07] longer in the system and now it's a toggle switch. You know, we've done

[2:38:10] things to so that we keep using it for a broom. It's still working and I'll keep

[2:38:15] using it. No sense putting a new tractor on there when this one's still

[2:38:19] functioning. Um, so yeah, the the whole thing is up in the air as far as

[2:38:25] tractors go and In response to this, I got I was thinking too, if we can pay

[2:38:32] some down on the motor grader this fall, um, and then pay the remainder of it

[2:38:37] after the first of the year, maybe I'd have enough budget left next and the new

[2:38:43] year that we could pick up a tractor, purchase a tractor. Um, new tractor

[2:38:50] through John Deere, kind of what I'm looking for. Not your top of the line,

[2:38:53] but 140 horse roughly tractor. with cast

[2:38:58] wheels and what was it? An 18-speed transmission.

[2:39:04] I got >> How many hours you put on?

[2:39:08] » Um well um the one track we put about 270

[2:39:15] 80 hours on it. And then the other ones uh

[2:39:20] were not one was 200, one was just under 200. So it depends on the years but we

[2:39:27] don't just use them for mowing. I use them for pulling packers disc. So that

[2:39:32] was total that was total hours. Yeah. So yeah, we use them for quite a bit when

[2:39:39] we got them. >> We 25 hours. Yeah. And the uh the ones

[2:39:47] we still got two of the TM140s, they're in good shape. They're in good shape. I

[2:39:52] don't remember if it's 4,000 hours on the one. Um, you know, they're really

[2:39:58] not high by any means. So, again, they're in good shape. So, we

[2:40:04] do have to that we can use for and you can do some work on that yet.

[2:40:09] » Yeah. Yeah. But there too parts are limited. Certain parts are not

[2:40:14] available. >> Wiring harnesses. That's a big deal on

[2:40:19] those. You wouldn't think so. to 2005 they should be but some of that stuff

[2:40:24] they're not making anymore. It's ridiculous. That's to me that's a new

[2:40:28] tractor. >> Yeah.

[2:40:31] » And they were electronic enough to where >> Yeah.

[2:40:36] » That's the problem with the wiring system and the wiring system.

[2:40:42] » So >> I guess I would shy away from buying new

[2:40:50] I I wish I would have known about this about two months ago when the state was

[2:40:54] surplusing tractors because you know they had some we could have got our

[2:40:58] hands on. >> There's nothing surplus.

[2:41:02] » What's that? >> There's nothing at surplus.

[2:41:04] » No, we're not down there. >> You have to go back to 12 early 12 to

[2:41:09] get pre-deaf. >> Yeah. You know, I've never asked the

[2:41:14] surplus either about a tractor. I could talk to Keith and see there's something,

[2:41:18] you know, put the, you know, on the wish list. I mean, they get everything else,

[2:41:23] you know, maybe maybe they have that forestry department or something, not

[2:41:28] knowing what kind of condition they're in,

[2:41:30] » you know, but could be low hour. We've gotten some things from them that have

[2:41:35] been really low hour. So you know a tractor like that he said you looked

[2:41:40] into >> yeah was saying about 175,000

[2:41:46] » yeah but he was going to check too I asked him if they were you know sign up

[2:41:50] on source well that's that site you know you guys have been

[2:41:56] involved in that where you can go on and there's they the different companies

[2:42:00] that are involved in that they've got multiple pieces of equipment with

[2:42:05] multiple options that you could go on and you can buy off

[2:42:08] of it. They're all bid items. So, it's it's there if they have it. We we bought

[2:42:15] motors, loaders, uh different things through through source. Well, what's it

[2:42:21] different with John here and RDO? So,

[2:42:25] » that's just so just so few hours a year. Really is.

[2:42:29] » It is. I mean, it is. And they they you know, for the most part, we keep them.

[2:42:34] The other ones are good. We kept them 20 years old.

[2:42:37] » Yeah. 2005s. >> So,

[2:42:41] » I more looking at buying something used pre-deaf.

[2:42:46] » They're hard to find though. >> Yeah.

[2:42:48] » I got a couple of them. >> Yeah.

[2:42:50] » I'm looking to sell them. >> What do you want? What do you got?

[2:42:55] » I got a 7230 premium. That's probably 130 horse.

[2:43:01] » Yeah. You want like 140 horse? 7730

[2:43:09] would be a little bit $2,200. >> Oh, so that'd be pretty. Well, what year

[2:43:16] would What year would that small lighter horse one be?

[2:43:19] » Uh, that's like 11 or 12.

[2:43:25] » So, you're still looking at >> looking at 110.

[2:43:29] » Well, one has a motor on it. with the motor. I

[2:43:33] want >> you wouldn't you wouldn't want the

[2:43:35] loader, would you? >> That one that you

[2:43:38] » No, actually I wouldn't mind having a loader.

[2:43:41] » So the one that you said was 175, is that loader ready?

[2:43:44] » Yeah, it could be. >> Um

[2:43:49] » I don't know. What's that? Which one's got the

[2:43:56] smaller one? There's a lot of times where um I've got

[2:44:00] that grab for on the big bucket for moving rock and stuff, but when we try

[2:44:04] to grab a, you know, well, trees or trees, it works pretty fair, but there's

[2:44:10] that time when I got to move bales and different things would be bad to have a

[2:44:14] load if it was in on a back deal. >> But, uh I I won't do anything.

[2:44:32] I'd actually be interested in >> I wonder about that too. There'd be some

[2:44:38] private guys that would actually

[2:44:44] » um

[2:44:47] it doesn't have to be doesn't have to be a new tractor.

[2:44:54] » You need 14 tractor. Yeah, with

[2:45:00] side hitches and the gang wars >> get into that green stuff that's that

[2:45:04] tall like hard.

[2:45:07] » It pulls them down. >> It does. Yeah.

[2:45:10] » Um with the hitch and the more and everything. Yeah, it does. They used to

[2:45:15] spec at least a minimum of a 90 when it was just the older moors, the lighter

[2:45:20] moors. >> Is that something that the county can

[2:45:22] just buy or do we have to put it out for bids to try a used Yeah. Can I use

[2:45:27] tractor? I'd have to check to see what the max I can spend right now is

[2:45:33] um 75. >> I wanted to say it was 50. I don't know

[2:45:37] if they changed. >> I don't know if they changed. They

[2:45:40] changed a lot of stuff again.

[2:45:45] But there's no

[2:45:50] I would assume we could go to an auction buy something. That's what I was

[2:45:54] thinking. But I'll check. I'll check. Let's see to see

[2:45:59] these program.

[2:46:03] » There's a lot of trackers out there.

[2:46:10] » We had someone on the public comment on this.

[2:46:18] » Um, you guys, I'm liking what you're doing, but and you said not to fix that

[2:46:24] for $8,000. I farm and you fix tractors because you

[2:46:28] can't buy new ones. They you can't buy a tractor for 20.

[2:46:36] So you fix what you got, you move with it. Just like a farmer that doesn't have

[2:46:44] spent income would do. >> That's what I got on that.

[2:46:49] » Thank you. >> Yeah. Perhaps we should,

[2:46:54] » you know, and I'm not against I'm not against fixing it. Um I think at that

[2:46:58] time the decision was because it been overheated so many times. The hydraulic

[2:47:03] system, the seals and everything, there was um a feeling that everything is

[2:47:07] really brittle in the inside. It's amazing that it's still functioning as

[2:47:11] well as it does. Um and we can check to see if that wiring harness is available.

[2:47:18] » Sometimes they start making aftermarket stuff. Well, that was so many years ago

[2:47:22] when we did this and at that time there was only one

[2:47:26] in the nation there was only one arm.

[2:47:31] » Was it pretty standard TM140 harness or serial number?

[2:47:37] » That I can't tell you. It must be a certain serial number on the

[2:47:41] » Who would you use to do those kind of repairs?

[2:47:45] » Premier Eureka. >> Yeah, they they they do that for us. Um,

[2:47:52] and I can ask them I can see ask Daryl see what's available. He'll it's out

[2:47:57] there. He'll >> find

[2:48:01] » I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea to have another tracker because I

[2:48:05] mean you were gaining two when you leased.

[2:48:07] » Yeah. Yeah. Three. Did you lease three? >> At least three.

[2:48:13] We lease three all the time. We sit on ours a little bit. Use ours in the offse

[2:48:18] and then we And that's why we don't have the hours,

[2:48:22] » right?

[2:48:27] » I had one running this fall, this last fall. And then

[2:48:32] Yeah. Like just to tell you how hot the system has gotten on that broom tractor.

[2:48:38] The u hydraulic hoses running forward to the broom melted through the tank.

[2:48:46] We filled it filled with fuel. fuel coming out. They got those hoses got so

[2:48:51] hot they melted into the tank. So, >> were they touching it?

[2:48:57] » Yeah, they were. We had we had wrap around it after that, but the whole

[2:49:02] thing was um we ended up switching radiators. The radiator got so we

[2:49:08] couldn't clean it anymore. We tried and it was just packed in there. Yeah, that

[2:49:12] one's used. >> That's sand. It's

[2:49:17] » It's our And if I had to do it over again with another tractor, the big deal

[2:49:22] when they sold these to us is we could run the broom off hydraulic system. And

[2:49:27] to me, that was a mistake. I think I I'd rather stay with self-containing

[2:49:32] system or we're running it off PTO because that way uh it's not overheating

[2:49:39] new tractor be a lot better. >> So not as handy but a lot better.

[2:49:47] But on that yeah I'll sit and wait. I I'll work with Lyall and u see if

[2:49:54] anything anything changes and then what there so but as far as it goes I' I'd

[2:50:00] like to kind of prepare for maybe having to do something next year if I if I can

[2:50:05] take some of the funds from this year pay toward that motor grader and then

[2:50:10] finish pay it after the first of the year and Chad said there's no problem

[2:50:14] doing that so Um,

[2:50:20] any other questions on tractors?

[2:50:24] » Find out what your threshold is to purchase something

[2:50:29] outside

[2:50:34] what the law is because they change all the time.

[2:50:40] It seems like a lot of hours

[2:50:48] really good kind of pre-dem.

[2:51:03] » Yeah. And I apologize for not requesting an executive session, but that

[2:51:08] possibility without having that on the should with

[2:51:16] a couple of the individuals. >> Well, we could do session as needed,

[2:51:21] right?

[2:51:24] » Call out what you want to do for personnel or whatever.

[2:51:27] » It's for personnel and you can go when we go at the end

[2:51:32] » and I've got personnel.

[2:51:38] Sounds good. We can do it then and then revisit what I was going to

[2:51:42] » Okay. >> talk about. So, and um it

[2:51:47] chip sealing. Uh you had asked me about getting some numbers put together. Um,

[2:51:52] as far as like for regular chip ceiling for this next season, if I'm going to do

[2:51:57] roads, um, I've got 30 miles listed out here and, um, or 29 miles, county road

[2:52:06] 12, four miles down by Hills. It's overdue. It should have been done last

[2:52:10] year already. Um, but we we held off on that. Um, road five, the rest of five,

[2:52:16] the north of Hills View and north of Highway 10. Um, that would have been on

[2:52:21] the list, too. And I I if we're going to do it, I need to do it this year to stay

[2:52:26] at six years. I need to, you know, five is where I like to be. Six is where I'll

[2:52:32] end up. >> Excuse me.

[2:52:35] » Okay. >> On 12 is that 4 miles from 47.

[2:52:43] » Yep. >> You know, beans, we we ground the rest

[2:52:48] of it. Is that a road that would be ground?

[2:52:53] » Well, I I think it could be ground. Um >> I know that first mile they put a mat on

[2:52:58] that. We probably grind that. >> Yeah. No, I'd probably have to have

[2:53:02] somebody grind that one. But in that first mile, there's a lot of traffic

[2:53:06] coming out of those gravel pits right there. And maybe it'd be beneficial to

[2:53:10] leave that one.

[2:53:14] » You know, we we sure could. Um >> it's not idea that that would be

[2:53:24] Maybe you should talk to some neighbors around there. See what their thoughts

[2:53:28] are.

[2:53:35] » Yeah. Chip chips is cheap. Nothing's cheap, but u

[2:53:43] as far then the rest of 19 north of town here, that's 8 miles. Um that's due and

[2:53:49] county road four up on the state line or not four county road two up on the state

[2:53:55] line four miles there that that's overdue too

[2:53:58] » so these are all overdue um you know approximate

[2:54:05] approximate cost to do the 29 miles just now this is just materials uh the oil

[2:54:11] costs are going to be roughly 440,000 uh 220 and then for the for the

[2:54:17] aggregate Um, we're looking at 125,280 for aggregate. You know, labor labor and

[2:54:25] equipment ballpark at 6,500 per mile. So, you know, you're looking at 188,500,

[2:54:35] you know, for for the a for the aggregate. Sorry, that was the wrong

[2:54:39] number. 125 280 for the aggregate. Uh 1885 for the labor and equipment.

[2:54:48] um overall cost, you know, 7546,000 a mile.

[2:54:55] » Yeah, roughly. >> That used to be about 11,000.

[2:54:58] » Yeah. And this actually isn't bad because you go contracting, you're

[2:55:02] looking at probably 32 to 35, >> you know, for contract.

[2:55:07] So that's, you know, chip sealing is chip

[2:55:10] sealing. We do that every year. Um the aggregate cost I play with that. And

[2:55:16] what I mean by that is I modify material and I use cheaper material and I add

[2:55:22] rock and I do things so that I can lower my cost on the aggregate side. So I

[2:55:30] » really lower the quality of the job. >> No, no, no, not at all. Um and then as

[2:55:35] far as uh um well okay like I I'm going to re

[2:55:41] reprocess uh Pock I I traded with

[2:55:47] just rock. There's nothing wrong with it. I'm just going to re I'm going to

[2:55:50] reuse it. I'm going to clean it. I'm going to add it and you know

[2:55:56] basically modify the material to where it works good for us. So, and then uh

[2:56:03] you know the question was asked about resurfacing county road 23. Um for

[2:56:09] reseal and prime oil for the seven miles um you're looking 360

[2:56:17] for those seven miles

[2:56:24] » going north to Forbes and

[2:56:29] your uh as far as your aggregate goes uh 3,360 ton of of aggregate approximate

[2:56:39] uh 60,000

[2:56:42] roughly in that you. Like I said, I can modify and play

[2:56:46] with that. Uh approximate cost to prep the road top. I'm going to I'm going to

[2:56:52] estimate that at 120,000. Um you've got to go in and we've got to,

[2:56:58] you know, u water and pack, you know, relay it. It's, you know, it's going to

[2:57:06] with everything we got to do to it. I I'm going to say that should cover it.

[2:57:11] » Oh, that's a very important step. >> Yeah. We've got to do the the culvert

[2:57:15] work. We've got to do the digouts. Um I'm thinking that just looking at

[2:57:20] everything that's there, I'm feeling that that should cover that. So, you

[2:57:24] know, total cost just on uh on that uh 540,480.

[2:57:31] So, that's for that seven miles. >> Okay. What what kind of time frame were

[2:57:36] you looking at? >> Well,

[2:57:39] realistically, it all all depends on how everything goes. the 30 the 29 miles to

[2:57:44] receal I still feel we should do I know there's a push people want to see that

[2:57:50] oil in the long run I still feel like we need to maintain the ones we have so we

[2:57:55] don't let those get out of hand before we do this one

[2:57:59] » so if we do the 29 miles this year >> and do the do the seven next year

[2:58:06] » and then add a few miles in a few extra miles to try to stay with the

[2:58:11] Yep. >> We're going to kind of be in line.

[2:58:16] » I think so. I think for next year or for uh 27. Um

[2:58:23] my plan is like this spring. I want to see the road come apart.

[2:58:28] » Yeah. It didn't last year. >> It didn't.

[2:58:30] » I want to see it come apart so that we can dig out the bad spots of fabric.

[2:58:34] I've got the fabric waiting. >> You know, dig them out, fill them back

[2:58:38] in, and repair those soft areas. 23 >> 23 seven miles,

[2:58:43] » you know, it just didn't come apart. One hole that really came apart.

[2:58:47] » Is that the one right by the way? >> Just north of there. Yeah.

[2:58:51] » You know, otherwise it it it held up. Oh, yeah. There it traffic punched it

[2:58:57] out here and there. We I kept the blade on it every day or should say every week

[2:59:04] this year and sometimes twice a week to keep the you know the traffic flowing

[2:59:08] and keep the road fair condition. Um and I know a question was uh I I watched

[2:59:17] the last meeting when it was talked about the money that we've received you

[2:59:22] know to go toward this. People also have to understand that we rebuilt

[2:59:30] 3/4 of a mile of road, raised it to help with snow removal so that we weren't

[2:59:35] constantly up there tending beef trucks. You know, when when uh north of Spring

[2:59:41] Creek Colony, go around the first curve between that curve and that second curve

[2:59:46] over by Thorps, that was low grade >> and and and Dave knows that when he

[2:59:51] worked with it, too. Um that road it was a terrible spot. That that one got me in

[2:59:58] trouble with a new new blade operator that last bad winter we had because it

[3:00:03] was so low. And we went in and we got permission from Thorps. We cut the back

[3:00:10] slow back. We increased the height of the road and now it's been great. It

[3:00:15] doesn't it just doesn't build up on it. It's doing the job. It's doing it. We

[3:00:21] stuck money into rebuilding that. Um there's another spot over by Thorps that

[3:00:27] we actually dug out a big area and filled back in. Um you and then you know

[3:00:34] the repairs and stuff on the rest of the road the state line. Um

[3:00:40] those dollars went to more than just resurfacing. Then you got to take in the

[3:00:45] cost of the grind too. that was 15 $2,000

[3:00:50] for grinding, you know. So, all that, you know, we've been spending money on

[3:00:54] on taking care of all that all this time. Money's not just sitting there.

[3:01:00] So, >> you're talking about is that something

[3:01:04] county does or somebody else does? >> That one we hired because of the the

[3:01:11] depth of a lot of the patching. Um if it's um some of the roads we did grind

[3:01:17] quite a few miles ourselves, but if you're going to relay it um put it back

[3:01:23] to oil, um

[3:01:26] the big grinder is about the best way to go. So that's what we did on on uh

[3:01:32] seven, you know, that's that u six miles we did there. We brought in the little

[3:01:38] wiser and they ground it. And then the next year we dug all the soft spots.

[3:01:44] They >> not as nice.

[3:01:48] » Yeah. And those soft spots are gone. >> So we dug them out. We filled them back

[3:01:52] in. >> There's quite a bit.

[3:01:56] » Yeah. >> I'll think of a mat.

[3:02:01] » There is no mat. What it is is it's a oil. It's a bl oil. surface. What we do

[3:02:08] is we go in, we prep the top of the road, and once it's prepped, we we go in

[3:02:12] and we spray a prime oil on it. And that prime oil, depending how hard your road

[3:02:17] surface is and the type of material, it might go in a/4 inch, might go in 3/4

[3:02:21] in. And it's just a primer that seals that top. And then we come in with a

[3:02:26] chip seal. And then the chip seal varies depending on the size of the rock you

[3:02:31] use. And um on an average it'd be a half inch wrap and we do a double chip seal.

[3:02:38] So the thickness of your mat when it's completely done might be

[3:02:44] inch and a half inch to inch and a half is all and and that's it's a bl oil seal

[3:02:49] or bladder or oil road. So it's not a it's not an asphalt mat by no means. But

[3:02:56] you know even with asphalt the strength is in the base of the road. It's not in

[3:03:01] the asphalt. >> Yeah. All that is is a wear surface.

[3:03:06] » The bottom gives the top. >> Yeah. Yeah.

[3:03:10] So, and and asphalt honestly is supposed to stay pliable. Same thing with bladder

[3:03:14] oil. That's why we reseal every so many years. It keeps some elasticity in that

[3:03:19] oil. >> Dries out, breaks up, and it's gone.

[3:03:24] » Yeah. So,

[3:03:27] » I still say all kinds

[3:03:42] and that's going to be entirely up to you

[3:03:51] and I'm just taking that as an example that those three miles we could probably

[3:03:58] not a lot of

[3:04:03] But that we could grind. >> I know that first they put a bat on that

[3:04:07] we couldn't. >> That's heavy. That's heavy.

[3:04:10] » But the other three we possibly could work through.

[3:04:13] » We could, >> you know, in places like that. your your

[3:04:16] biggest advocate, your biggest uh hurdle there is going to be probably Darwin,

[3:04:22] » you know, because we'd stop just short of his place,

[3:04:26] » right? >> Um

[3:04:29] I'm sure Cletus wouldn't be happy either, but you know, that's

[3:04:34] » not so bad. He can take the other five. >> Yeah.

[3:04:39] But even even like five pass by and we talked about this last year, you know,

[3:04:44] if we get off that hill, it seems like we get a lot of at times a lot of

[3:04:49] breakup that's kind of the worst spot. >> I wouldn't mind. No, I wouldn't mind

[3:04:54] experimenting, you know, take out a half mile in

[3:04:59] between and see if that works, >> you know. And I don't know.

[3:05:03] I drove oh here

[3:05:10] going east you go around come down by

[3:05:17] go around that lake where the bridge >> they got places

[3:05:23] and of course they take care of the rest

[3:05:30] » I I wouldn't mind trying that you you know, if if it need if need be. I

[3:05:34] wouldn't do it if it's not broken up, >> right?

[3:05:37] » But if it if you just have a area, you know, quarter mile long, but just Oh my

[3:05:42] god. >> The only part with it and after we

[3:05:47] talked about it last time, Rick brought it up and uh he said the only issue

[3:05:53] would be is like on a bad winter with snow removal, you know, because I put

[3:05:56] the the trucks I put on the oil, we don't run shoes. They lay on the road.

[3:06:02] Then you get to the gravel, >> you can't do it. So then you have to

[3:06:06] lift and go over it and drop back down. >> I guess I didn't think

[3:06:11] » I didn't think about that part either. If a guy does a spot, it should be in a

[3:06:15] location where it would >> leads off a gravel road or

[3:06:18] » Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, that's something to think about.

[3:06:23] » You know, we we do know that after the fact you get a lot of you got

[3:06:28] a little a lot of difference of opinion. You got people that say, "Geez, great

[3:06:33] road. We should grind the rest." Then you got those few that say, "No." You

[3:06:37] know, >> that's exactly when first 12 section 12

[3:06:43] says, "Well, what are you going to write?" You know, it's like,

[3:06:46] » "Well, some want it, some don't." >> Yeah. Some appreciate the smoother ride

[3:06:52] in the dust. >> The dust,

[3:06:55] » you know, a semi railroad's

[3:07:00] Well, that's what I'm getting on 23. I've got semis telling me leave it. You

[3:07:06] know, this is better this way. And then you got the local people that live

[3:07:11] there. They they want to see it back to Well, and I understand that section of

[3:07:15] road because it connects a main road. >> Oh, sure.

[3:07:17] » You know, there's a lot of traffic on it.

[3:07:20] » And being a lot of traffic, I have to have a blade on it all the time.

[3:07:24] » Dave, did you guys get up there a little more slow?

[3:07:29] my guys commented and other you know they've been up there

[3:07:32] » good >> I don't know write any tickets or get

[3:07:36] some guys

[3:07:39] » just tell them I asked

[3:07:44] it very well for the most part

[3:07:50] is just

[3:07:56] see always tough to do.

[3:08:00] » It is more than you realize. >> And I honestly when I when I road like

[3:08:06] that when I put 40 on it, >> I'm hoping they run 505.

[3:08:11] » That's that's my, you know, hope. It's just like a stop sign and that that's

[3:08:17] what I wanted on my list. >> Shoot. Um I got a stop sign I need you

[3:08:22] guys to approve. Um, and they'll do I'll put it on next

[3:08:26] » next month. >> We had an issue. They took it out and we

[3:08:32] didn't catch it and now somebody ran. It used to happen when Roger was here by

[3:08:37] Darwin Darwin Bloomarts. They come from the south to come straight north and

[3:08:41] there was a big double post big T sign. They run right through it right through

[3:08:46] the gates going into that tower. >> Tear the posts off. And it used to

[3:08:51] happen a lot and then it quit. So we stop sign up there to try and that and

[3:08:56] stop ahead to try and get people because I know with a stop sign just like I told

[3:09:01] John down at Long Lake County, they won't stop but they will slow down.

[3:09:07] » Look. >> Yeah.

[3:09:10] » Yeah. So, but anyway,

[3:09:17] you know, I'm looking at 1.3 million in two years. Is there any of this or all

[3:09:22] of it that could be grown and maintained and maintaining

[3:09:27] some of that money? I'm just I know that's a very unpopular.

[3:09:30] » The problem with 23 is the truck traffic. I mean, you can blade it in a

[3:09:34] day or two of trucks running all driven out

[3:09:37] » there. There's there's a point where there's just too much traffic. So, that

[3:09:43] » one should be good. >> Yeah. You and the state might even say

[3:09:48] our numbers aren't high enough, but They they aren't the ones out there

[3:09:52] bleeding it every week either, you know, and then depending on weather conditions

[3:09:58] and rain and everything else, it chuckles.

[3:10:01] » Yeah, it's a constant battle. Um there is that road has got enough truck

[3:10:08] traffic and regular traffic that nice to have an oil surface back on it.

[3:10:15] » How about like we talked the state line. I' I've

[3:10:21] talked about grinding it, but then Dicki County, we share we kind of share

[3:10:26] sections on it. They've got a bigger section of gravel that they maintain.

[3:10:30] And um a few years back, they actually helped pay for the oil to do, you know,

[3:10:34] when oil first started going out, they actually helped pay for the oil to do

[3:10:39] that. So, they really aren't in favor of of grinding that section of the road. I

[3:10:44] would like to grind it all the way to Forbes and then leave that one mile.

[3:10:49] » But >> yeah, and I can I can I can bump about

[3:10:54] that, >> you know, and see what they got to say.

[3:10:58] » I don't know how many miles they're >> I have to go and look at the but it's

[3:11:04] from the it's from the wind towers headquarters all the way down to the

[3:11:10] oil. probably

[3:11:17] » oil.

[3:11:20] » And then uh County Road five, you've talked about that. Um

[3:11:27] Jeff has said about granting the north section.

[3:11:31] » Is is that 13? Is that included in the section?

[3:11:35] » Yeah. >> Oh, it does.

[3:11:36] » Yeah. That's the, you know, south from Hills north highway 10 and from 10

[3:11:41] north. >> I thought it was hills south.

[3:11:44] » We did we did south hills this last summer here. So,

[3:11:49] um, so that that's done down there. >> So, I would have six miles of

[3:11:55] » I got to talk to the people. >> Yeah. And then county road 19.

[3:12:00] » It's not terrible. It's rough, but it's not

[3:12:03] » Yeah, it's just rough. But if you don't do it now, it's going to be

[3:12:09] you made the decision. >> Yeah. Yeah. You got

[3:12:13] » if you let them go and then you say, "Well, no, we better oil it." Then you

[3:12:18] got a lot more problems. It's dried out underneath. Then it takes we got to do

[3:12:23] more work to try and catch back up again. And and and some guys would say

[3:12:29] most of our roads should be ground and reoiled. And they can say that, but they

[3:12:33] also got to have the money. >> That's what I

[3:12:40] » Yeah. Yeah. So, um,

[3:12:45] that's all information for thought and for, you know, for the upcoming season.

[3:12:52] I guess we'll we'll see how everything goes.

[3:12:58] » I'm going to talk people along there.

[3:13:05] You know, the biggest

[3:13:21] » are going to be there.

[3:13:27] » I think my wife would be okay with it.

[3:13:33] you know that's the case

[3:13:38] well it's going to be

[3:13:43] out of there

[3:13:47] » let's go

[3:13:51] a lot of money >> not a lot of not a lot of s like you

[3:13:57] said there's that one area you get some s

[3:14:00] Not a lot of big soft spots in that section of road.

[3:14:03] » So if you did grind, it should be fairly fairly reasonable for for key. And then

[3:14:10] the amount of traffic you got on that road, you're not going to have to blade

[3:14:13] it every week like we do these. >> I mean, I think that the part that we

[3:14:18] going up, I think that's a great road. >> It is a good

[3:14:23] » I was concerned about that big hill, you know, that we did watching. I don't

[3:14:29] issues with >> big deal with those is keep the winter

[3:14:31] one off the shoulder. I mean lay it out so that the water shed

[3:14:36] » and otherwise if it gets a win follows

[3:14:41] a lot of problems. >> Well, I'll talk to you.

[3:14:46] » I'm not going to promise. >> Yeah.

[3:14:49] Neil, why don't you be the case? 9 miles we're taking off

[3:14:56] money or other people.

[3:15:02] » Well, I've got um someone ching, you know, texting me

[3:15:09] about it evidently watching that that road's more important

[3:15:15] and I understand personal feelings are involved. Sure.

[3:15:18] » You know, everybody everybody looks at just that and they they don't look at

[3:15:25] everything. Every every one of them all people do that. They look at their front

[3:15:30] door and they don't look at the rest of everything. So,

[3:15:36] » and what what are you doing with what's your what's your budget?

[3:15:41] Well, for uh basically, you know, just the regular chips, it's business as

[3:15:47] usual. >> But I mean, your total budget

[3:15:52] » 2.7 Yeah. And you put a third or a fourth of it into

[3:16:01] » Yeah. And equipment trying to keep, you know, keep up with equipment and and

[3:16:06] manpower. And I know I had one individual need more. Buy more snow

[3:16:12] removal equipment. I got the equipment. I just don't have the people and we'll

[3:16:18] get more people. Okay. Oh, well that's we can talk about

[3:16:23] an executive. I have another issue. Nothing bad but with an employee. So,

[3:16:29] » okay. We're going to move on to salary from that's working out. Okay.

[3:16:34] » Yep. So far. >> Need a motion to

[3:16:38] put her at 215. for each hours per year beginning.

[3:16:45] » I'll make a motion.

[3:16:49] » Second by Jeff. All in favor say I.

[3:16:54] » I. All carried. >> Just just an FYI. Uh they go by Hank.

[3:17:00] » Hank. Hank. Hank. >> Not Hank. Hank.

[3:17:04] » Hank for the record. >> And I never asked her that, but her dad

[3:17:06] told me a long time ago that you don't the most.

[3:17:14] » Sorry, Mr. All right, I'll be in the office. Let me

[3:17:18] know. >> Well,

[3:17:20] we're done. Basically, what's the line item on action

[3:17:26] discussion? >> If any

[3:17:41] Christmas

[3:17:44] » Friday. >> This Friday. It's always the first

[3:17:49] Friday in December. >> This Friday.

[3:17:51] » This Friday.

[3:17:57] » You got to quit that. >> Yeah.

[3:17:59] » That's about the only week. So, you know, if anything,

[3:18:05] come up there for dinner and the guys like to visit with you is the one day a

[3:18:08] year they get a chance to do that. So,

[3:18:13] » yeah, I was sorry. Yeah, it's always the first Friday.

[3:18:24] » Okay. Then we will uh I need a motion to go into executive session for 252

[3:18:32] as needed. >> I'll make the motion

[3:18:36] like

[3:18:39] second by Jeff. All favor say I >> motion carries.

[3:18:47] » Thank you both at the same time.

[3:19:01] We aren't going to change anything until next year.

[3:19:11] » So, next next end of the year meeting, I

[3:19:15] apologize, but I'm probably not going to be here. I'll have everything written

[3:19:18] down. I'll get it to you guys. >> So, my wife was so kind to schedule a

[3:19:24] Nice

[3:19:28] way to finish.

[3:19:33] » Don't know that. >> I think we did the wrong thing.

[3:19:40] » I was I was off meds for five days. been on meds for prior heart attack

[3:19:52] later.

[3:19:56] » Yeah. Yeah. I I told Don't for >> I didn't really want it either. But

[3:20:05] » as far as

[3:20:13] » um >> we got enough snow that might be

[3:20:17] blocked. >> Yeah. And nobody really

[3:20:20] » not really. >> I'll go the same way.

[3:20:24] » I don't need to go there. shortcut.

[3:20:27] » You know, the snow's not real hard, but I don't know how deep it is.

[3:20:31] » Yeah. And it's not spot. >> There's at least one area.

[3:20:37] » Yeah. Yeah. Fences are pretty close to the road.

[3:20:46] » It's kind of deep enough. Some of those section lines are not.

[3:20:50] » So, be good.

[3:21:04] So, did I make a lot of I took last month Monday off?

[3:21:07] » You guys were on the roof at your house. >> Good afternoon, Jack.

[3:21:10] » Did you hear us down there?

[3:21:15] » Oh, is that what she Okay. Driving post. >> Okay. I did hear that. How was you guys?

[3:21:20] » Yeah, it was a beautiful day and I knew it was going to change and I said I took

[3:21:24] the day off cuz I wanted to get those post driven through that slew before we

[3:21:28] had a bunch of moisture this next. >> So that's this way in the water,

[3:21:34] » but I'm not found. So >> hey guys, um Jackie, we just have one

[3:21:39] short thing. You had requested our approval on the state committee meeting.

[3:21:45] » Are you part of the state livestock committee? You're on that board.

[3:21:49] » Okay. Is this >> There's a people in charge of each

[3:21:54] animal. >> Animal.

[3:21:56] » I'm co-chair of the rabbit. >> Is this an hour meeting? You have a

[3:22:03] meeting? >> Usually

[3:22:06] two to two and a half. >> Okay.

[3:22:09] Is it is it important that you were there

[3:22:13] physically or is it zoom or >> normally I could say no but the other

[3:22:18] lady can't be the other chair they would like one chairman there from each group

[3:22:26] and she cannot make it Thursday >> you can't run that via zoom through here

[3:22:32] » it's poor you can't hear and you can't it's a great big huge room in that at

[3:22:44] the bigby hall one of the great classrooms

[3:22:49] I can try. >> Well, we're just wondering uh you know

[3:22:54] what your involvement was how important time off you know time for to and from

[3:23:01] and then expenses >> are you staying overnight then

[3:23:05] » I'm not planning on before.

[3:23:10] » It's going to take a lot to make me to say, but I don't The weather's

[3:23:14] » That's the other thing. It's horrible. I'm not

[3:23:19] » Yeah, it's Thursday. >> What time of the day is it?

[3:23:21] » It's at 6:00 in the evening. So, it's >> committee. It's um the chairman are

[3:23:28] there, the chairman, and then all the committees are invited. Also, like we

[3:23:31] have each animal committee has four or five volunteers and we all get together

[3:23:38] and talk about the fair and what can we do better and and those kind of things

[3:23:42] where we're going judges. Um we were just we're on a pre zoom right now.

[3:23:47] » Okay. >> So like I said you say no that's

[3:23:52] » all right and then um

[3:23:56] we have been down we've done some inspections. Have you done your office?

[3:24:02] » Okay. >> You will be pleasantly surprised I

[3:24:04] think. >> Okay. Any

[3:24:08] other questions for Jack? >> Okay.

[3:24:11] » Please, if you do write them down because I'm just still in that Zoom, so

[3:24:16] » Oh, >> we're like we have a presume before we

[3:24:18] meet with the public. Hopefully not. >> Okay.

[3:24:23] » Okay. Thank you.

[3:24:32] » That comes in all the reports. Oh, good question. Um, fuel goods. Do you want to

[3:24:38] call for those at the end of your meeting or should we have done it at

[3:24:41] this one? I forgot about that. Don't just ask.

[3:24:46] » Not in the agenda either.

[3:24:57] » We can I read this and that. We can we can

[3:25:04] We can >> ask for bids.

[3:25:06] » We can ask for bids. We just can't. >> Yeah, we can do that.

[3:25:10] » So, we can still call for bid. >> We can put it on the minutes today to

[3:25:14] call for bids for the 30th. >> Yep.

[3:25:16] » You want to open them on the 30th? >> Uh, we can open them on the first

[3:25:20] meeting if you want to. >> We can do that.

[3:25:25] » Good.

[3:25:31] Okay.

[3:25:36] » Yeah, that's what I

[3:25:50] » And then that was estimated based on

[3:26:07] We're not even >> at 50.

[3:26:27] » Yeah.

[3:26:31] for most people and then or whatever we could get by with 50 and then if it's

[3:26:36] September we say okay I'm going to need you know 15 hours Trisha's going to need

[3:26:41] 15 hours for the electrician she's going to need

[3:26:47] » I think that

[3:26:58] Yes. >> So it depends on what level 100 would

[3:27:04] probably have not many people asking 50 you might have a little bit but I

[3:27:11] wouldn't think that it would be an issue

[3:27:19] » to ask the same concept.

[3:27:28] Or they could say, you know,

[3:27:33] whatever. Then if it ends up only being

[3:27:43] » All right. Um, tab number seven is your approvals in there.

[3:28:06] You know, I was looking too

[3:28:11] treasur.

[3:28:17] Holy crap.

[3:28:29] Yes. I didn't get it at the very beginning of the month. If I got it on

[3:28:34] day, then I received it.

[3:28:39] » I need approval on all these reports. >> Okay. So, we have a motion by Neil,

[3:28:44] second by Jeff. All in favor say I. >> I.

[3:28:55] Yeah. There's an excuse for >> these

[3:29:25] things that I received.

[3:30:01] It's 12.

[3:30:27] There's the track 16,000.

[3:30:44] Yeah, you mailed this to each of the commissioners.

[3:31:29] Can you match that?

[3:31:48] It's all right.

[3:32:11] That one. No, that one's good.

[3:33:09] So this Jeff and I came on

[3:33:16] for reelection >> this year.

[3:33:19] » Yes. Yes. are on

[3:33:24] » and Neil will have to run for a two-year term.

[3:33:28] » Yes. And then you'll run for four aftermission.

[3:33:38] » Yes. Yes. >> Yes.

[3:33:44] It's gone a lot faster than >> So you you are appointed through the

[3:33:51] term until the next qualifying election where you would run for two. Yes.

[3:34:06] I when I said that you guys got to make your neighbor%.

[3:34:24] » Oh yes. Just the back side.

[3:34:32] » Yeah.

[3:34:37] » Yes.

[3:34:42] » Beginning of February. >> No, it starts um

[3:34:46] county petition start January one. the last Tuesday in March.

[3:35:00] » Um I will have to do the counts >> three or four.

[3:35:03] » I only needed three. >> Is that right?

[3:35:07] » Yeah. >> Wow.

[3:35:09] » It's like a really long story problem of a lot problem.

[3:35:14] Percentage of the person that voted for your parties candidate.

[3:35:20] I didn't certain >> No, that would be really nice. But no,

[3:35:25] it's not that.

[3:35:30] » But it it works out to if you fill up the sheet and it's more than enough.

[3:35:46] Yes. >> And ladies and sh

[3:35:51] his his own my own district are the only two that are singular and these three

[3:35:55] are on >> in election year.

[3:35:57] » No no no. So so odd odd number districts are up in 26. So 1 35. So Neil has to

[3:36:05] run because he was appointed. So he doesn't he isn't appointed for the full

[3:36:10] four years. He's appointed until the next election. for a two

[3:36:14] » and then he has to run again for a four because he has to get back on track with

[3:36:18] the >> Oh, so he has to run

[3:36:28] all your money.

[3:36:51] started

[3:36:55] the term >> four years.

[3:36:57] » No, when when did I start on January 1st?

[3:37:01] » Yes. >> Yes.

[3:37:02] » So, it goes throughout 26. >> Yes.

[3:37:05] » But the election is all that could be >> Yes.

[3:37:07] » It could be June, could be November. >> Primary is If you don't run, if no one

[3:37:12] runs against you

[3:37:15] » in the primary >> and more so if they don't if there's

[3:37:19] another party >> correct other party would be in the

[3:37:22] November >> then you'd have to do November too Yeah.

[3:37:35] » Yes.

[3:37:44] Actually

[3:37:54] the time before >> Rick never took

[3:38:01] » we appointed him. So two years later >> no two or one

[3:38:08] » he is appointed until the next election >> and then

[3:38:16] He ran he ran in 2020. So he had a 4-year term from 20

[3:38:26] through 24. >> So he had a he did run in

[3:38:31] » he was appointed >> he was appointed before that a couple

[3:38:35] times before that. He ran he ran there was a time in there that he did run. So

[3:38:40] he was kind of back and forth.

[3:38:44] » You never You didn't know

[3:38:48] » where

[3:38:57] living the dream

[3:39:02] » just just north of the corner.

[3:39:10] Yeah, it's right right close to

[3:39:24] » the >> Okay,

[3:39:30] » you wanted

[3:39:43] This is starting to feel like

[3:39:57] » you're elected. You're not qualified. So sorry.

[3:40:02] » Just pay in January. >> Yeah.

[3:40:06] still check out. >> Yes,

[3:40:12] » I kind of like

[3:40:41] Let's

[3:40:52] go

[3:40:55] back over here.

[3:41:17] I'll look at that roof stuff. I got to get the heck. Pick up the beef.

[3:41:25] » What's that? >> That roof door. Okay.

[3:41:46] Did you do the >> Yes.

[3:41:58] » I'm so excited. I got some more science.

[3:42:11] My wife, get me out of the house.

[3:42:37] I guarantee you

[3:42:43] » short books pictures.

[3:42:52] » Oh, I read I read books.

[3:43:07] So when we go out, dad, you should take a book. So I take

[3:43:14] too long then all I do is read

[3:43:18] your mind. >> I do that too.

[3:43:21] » And when I started I can't stop. >> Yeah.

[3:43:25] That's a nice thing about GPS.

[3:43:33] I get so many times guys

[3:43:42] pull up their claim and pull up their name.

[3:43:59] might be making these strips or something like that. I might be

[3:44:07] my dog.

[3:44:25] » Merry Christmas.

[3:44:32] » Thank you.

[3:44:47] I had a cousin. He was a stock

[3:44:52] in

[3:44:55] he

[3:45:00] was it's not

[3:45:16] sure

[3:45:20] Yeah.

[3:45:30] my returns

[3:45:36] take out every day.

[3:45:46] » I just about sold that bit of >> just just about 11 bucks.

[3:45:53] » I should have sold about

[3:45:58] Now I have to move snow. Then I'm way out of money

[3:46:01] » in storage. >> Storage.

[3:46:05] » You have 50 cents of storage. >> I have to bring another load of gravel.

[3:46:10] » I can use this.

[3:46:14] » Well, hopefully that last year was covered by the gravel.

[3:46:19] » I never have. >> Hopefully he goes

[3:46:25] I never got any before Dalton set we set three copper bids in

[3:46:32] my yard that he wasn't using

[3:46:36] as me if I wanted

[3:46:40] you know I don't want anything well I took three four five loads of gravel

[3:46:46] like

[3:46:52] he was

[3:46:58] All right. Motion to pay the bills. >> So moved.

[3:47:00] » So moved. >> Second. All in favor say I.

[3:47:03] » I. >> Motion to adjourn.

[3:47:06] » So move. >> So moved by Neil. Second.

[3:47:09] » All in favor say I.

[3:47:13] » I don't want to. No, no,

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