08.17.2026 Town Council Meeting

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[0:03] Good evening, Assembly Hock. Welcome out.
[0:12] We join me in, excited for the region.
[0:21] I believe the regions
[0:22] through the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation,
[0:30] under God in the visible with liberty and justice.
[0:35] Thank you. A lot for work, correct?
[0:40] Our Father Heaven, we're thankful to live in this free country, we're thankful for a representative government.
[0:47] We're thankful to be together as a community and see so much outreach and support of one another.
[0:54] We're thankful for the rain that has come and how it has come and for that protection, we pray that it will continue to bless this community
[1:01] and bless the homes and property and people here that they'll be protected from flooding and debris
[1:07] flows. And this we ask in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
[1:15] Thank you. Next on our agenda is the review of
[1:21] minutes. We have two minutes in front of us today. Let's take them to board. The first one is July 20th.
[1:29] our regular metal town council meeting.
[1:35] Any edits on page one?
[1:43] Anything on page two?
[1:50] Any edits for page three?
[1:57] Good and found? I'm going to lock them together.
[2:02] Okay. Let's go to the next meeting with August 7th.
[2:07] That was the emergency town council meeting.
[2:13] Any edits on page one?
[2:19] Any edits for page two?
[2:20] We
[2:37] have a motion for the minutes.
[2:43] Make a motion to accept both sets of minutes.
[2:47] I'll check it out.
[2:48] The motion is made second with all in favor.
[2:51] My motion passes.
[2:52] Thank you.
[2:54] As we look down the agenda,
[2:58] are there any conflicts or personal interests that need to be declared?
[3:02] Good.
[3:03] I'm going to write in Monday's utility.
[3:04] OK.
[3:05] Okay.
[3:18] Okay.
[3:20] Now is the time we're going to open the floor. This is your chance if you
[3:24] want to talk, if you want to speak, except for the right money piece that's coming next.
[3:30] We'll open the floor you at three minutes. Let me say you speak your piece, let you go
[3:35] under-rupted, and we'll go from there. So if you want to speak tonight, this is your chance.
[3:42] Unless the council wants to open it up later, this will be yacht to me, but we'll give
[3:50] you two minutes to say a piece.
[3:56] We have a few comments.
[4:01] I'm Kevin Morris.
[4:03] I just want to compliment Mayor Bishop on that.
[4:07] I've been at Kevin in the cooperative fire meetings, and he's been there representing
[4:12] the battle.
[4:12] So you're doing an excellent job in trying to find out the answers, you're making asking
[4:18] good questions and representing trying to get answers for what the next thing you're
[4:24] going to happen with bloody and the private land orders and stuff.
[4:29] So I want to just compliment you on that.
[4:30] Thank you.
[4:32] Thank you.
[4:36] Thank you.
[4:37] Anybody else?
[4:38] I'm going to come in. I know that's from your agenda tonight. You've got a section on
[4:43] there where you want to discuss emergency generators.
[4:46] From the pumps. I just want to bring up the fact that I brought this in the budget hearing.
[4:52] We're hoping one comment about the low discussion whatsoever is now all of a sudden
[4:59] and emergency.
[5:03] It's nice that we can help each other out, but I hear that all of us talk about
[5:07] few rules. You see, the rules are jumping up and doing things at the last minute that should
[5:13] have been taking care of months and years ago.
[5:19] I wonder how many of us have prepared for any kind of
[5:22] emergencies. You have any food on yourself, chip, and you get your house in a winter time. You have your
[5:29] attack the tank in your car for gas, so you can leave, instead of having to stop for the service station in case you have to.
[5:40] I think port of leadership is looking forward to fingers that can have them and have them having to have them yet,
[5:48] or things that have happened in the past that maybe haven't happened for a year, they can have them overnight.
[6:05] Any other comments?
[6:09] I know there's nobody who offered any of the discussion that I had about the conduit and the power boxes that were mysteriously occurring on Main Street.
[6:20] And then where it says, and this is me, the question is that anyone knew what OEM OPMA was as there has been approval, well, specifically what I said was, isn't just a violation of the OEM meeting's path.
[6:39] And then OPMA should be spelled out. People don't know what path it is or.
[6:57] Okay,
[6:59] thanks.
[7:00] Give me a sprawl, yeah.
[7:02] Make a visit, please.
[7:04] We had a visit with the ward office.
[7:07] We got us this elderly carman in the name of the ward.
[7:09] We were putting together a list of all the elderly people that,
[7:12] maybe if some number just comes,
[7:15] they won't be able to get out of their house or work.
[7:18] We're trying to accumulate all these names and families
[7:20] and assign somebody to check on and make sure that they are covered
[7:26] if there is an emergency, rather fly or whatever it may be.
[7:30] So this is a community effort, I think, that will be good for all of us to keep an eye on
[7:34] and be able to be clear in the community.
[7:38] Thank you.
[7:42] Any other comments tonight?
[7:48] Yeah, yeah.
[7:49] I just want to publicly make note of all the sacrifice and hard work that town people
[7:57] who have made hearing matter at this crisis we've had.
[8:01] It was just surprising how many people turn out from town
[8:07] and try to help out their neighbor.
[8:09] I just want publicly saying this meeting,
[8:12] so it goes out.
[8:13] Thank all those who have worked so hard and built to you
[8:17] and the clerks, the mayor, the council,
[8:20] and all the hard work and effort they put into it.
[8:23] I know there's a lot of time and effort,
[8:25] and a lot of anxiety is gone throughout the community
[8:28] and seeing the leadership that we've had
[8:32] that put my mind at ease of the seriousness of them
[8:37] and knowing that we're taking care of them.
[8:39] I just want to publicly thank you guys
[8:41] and whoever in town did whatever they needed to do,
[8:45] basically.
[8:57] Thank you.
[8:58] Thank you for those comments.
[9:00] Next on our agenda is Ryan Madiz utility connection.
[9:06] Ryan could not be here tonight, and he said the brother Kelly Vent was going to stand in
[9:12] his stead.
[9:15] Kelly asked for our rules, we'll give you seven minutes, uninterrupted to present.
[9:22] How are that looks?
[9:26] I think he just told me to come here and he said he made a proposal and told me to let him
[9:34] know how the proposal went when he told me.
[9:35] Okay. Okay. So I believe we got an electronic version of a proposal on July 20th.
[9:48] That was the proposal I got. Now I was not sure that meaning.
[9:53] I'm assuming the councilor's got some work in the electronic proposal.
[9:59] Okay, so let
[10:06] me just, let me just say this, and Kelly, I'll give you some time.
[10:17] Let the council make a decision if that email proposal is going to stand or how we want to respond.
[10:28] So to be clear, the proposal was Ryan Bundy wants an electrical connection at that property outside of town.
[10:35] Okay, he had a couple of alternatives, and don't let me speak out of turn, but he had a couple of alternatives.
[10:44] One, he's like, well, there's water there, I want power there, it makes sense.
[10:49] That water was not issued to Ryan, it was not, I believe that property was sold with that water connection.
[10:57] His second proposal was, I'll just annex him, and that could, that's his prerogative
[11:07] to apply or appeal or request annexation. Those were the two, am I missing anything?
[11:15] Those were the kind of two proposals he had as he put that forward. Any, am I missing anything
[11:23] Kelly?
[11:23] What kind of connection is it? There's a meter out of that property. For animals,
[11:31] or residential, or what kind of water connection is it? It's a town water tap, and for your
[11:37] background, years and years ago, there was a ride away exchanged by the town to several landowners
[11:47] to bring a pipe across their property.
[11:50] The town got easement access and laid that pipe in exchange for a tap right.
[11:59] Several of those tap rights have been exercised.
[12:03] Dusty and Diane had one of those tap rights.
[12:05] They exercised it four years ago, Ish put it on the piece of property next to theirs or really
[12:13] off the road next to their property.
[12:15] and that's how it sat for a couple of years.
[12:18] So it's a town cap right.
[12:25] And there's a hydrant there now, right?
[12:27] Being the worst you do, I believe.
[12:30] Yes.
[12:31] Yeah.
[12:34] Any discussion from the town council?
[12:37] We don't, as I see it and help me,
[12:43] that may be something we want on the agenda.
[12:48] us so people know what we're going to vote on so they can turn out and they can voice
[12:52] your opinion. As it stands right now our agenda shows that Ryan wants to make a proposal.
[13:01] So he mailed that in, we've stated that proposal to the best of our knowledge as we can
[13:06] and want to quickly print out and attach that proposal to our minutes. How
[13:14] does the council want to
[13:15] do they want to respond? How do they want to respond? I think there's a proposal but making
[13:22] a decision on that is different. And this council made a decision on that exact proposal
[13:32] at one time, right? I mean, this council has a dreaded decision. If Ryan wants to apply for
[13:41] That's not going to happen just through this process, right?
[13:47] There's some other steps to take, to understand.
[14:07] So we've already talked about this several months ago.
[14:13] And his first choice there of being out of town connection.
[14:17] Really, I think the whole council has said no.
[14:20] We do have.
[14:21] So I don't know why we need to look at that again.
[14:24] And the second choice there is an annexation choice, which is something that he would have
[14:29] to go through the process of, which I think that that's his right to do that, and see
[14:38] where it goes from there.
[14:48] So as I look at it, there's only one choice for him, and that's if he wants to pursue annexation
[14:56] to go that route.
[15:00] To get power from town. There's other alternatives, right? You can go off-grid, you can have
[15:06] this thing to win red, you can do many of the things, but connect the town. Well, and I'm just
[15:12] referring to his proposal, his letter on the 20th of July. Yep. The only thing we can control
[15:17] is metal town boundaries and resources, right? Not people out in county doing other things.
[15:27] And that's what the attorney has said we need to do.
[15:32] Yes.
[15:39] Okay.
[15:43] We'll let Kelly take that back.
[15:45] But that's, we're effectively staying with our decision that we made several months ago.
[15:57] A verbal ball remains in his court.
[16:06] Okay.
[16:08] Monica, let's go through our accounting reports.
[16:15] Enderge Gas for the town, 7,000, 18,000, that is last month, I haven't got this month yet.
[16:25] UAMS, 11,177 dollars, 12 cents, such as the hour, another Emerge Gas, 675, that's the fire,
[16:35] for the last month, Center Com 160, 43, that's for an internet.
[16:39] that come to forward to your friends.
[16:44] And voices totaling $64 for sample.
[16:48] Pixie power to separate invoices totaling $8.51,
[16:52] 54 outages and system maintenance.
[16:56] Whole waste $81 for the dumpster for July.
[17:01] Just in Waman, $454 for legal.
[17:05] some rise in engineering. This is a past, a past through that we had not paid
[17:14] Sunrise yet or $172 that has been passed on to the person who had the
[17:20] inspection. Utah Division of Fleet Operations, quite a few charges or fire
[17:28] part cemetery. They told 384 and 97. Utah Tech Feeers Association 9750. That's the
[17:41] theme for any description. Penny's tree removal to two charges on the same
[17:48] invoice for $1,800. That's for removal of a tree at the park and tree clean-up
[17:55] of the cemetery, express bill pay, $1.58, that's arki.
[18:02] I'm going to also, it's written on here.
[18:07] We have several invoices for Rover Lumber.
[18:10] I have asked Polaris to make us a new inline and an outline
[18:16] for disaster mitigation.
[18:20] They have not got that line made yet.
[18:22] these charges to roll first will go on that line. I think they'll have it done
[18:29] tomorrow. So I haven't made the check yet and there's also a reimbursement to
[18:35] Andrew Blake for a pump that he purchased that will go in that same category.
[18:40] So I've added them on the bottom so hopefully we can prove them tonight so that they
[18:45] don't have to wait. Can we talk about those? So I'm aware of two of the
[18:49] for strategies. I have all the advances. Are they, is that total is 700
[18:56] for change? No, it's all flooding. Yes, it is all flood. I double checked with
[19:01] Andrew, one of them I wasn't sure about. It's for supplies for the sandbag
[19:06] fillers, some different things that Andrew's needed for water system. Yeah, the
[19:11] water system. So it totals 72909 and I think there's about four and voices ish, but
[19:18] But it's all those different suffice and things that have come up and then the reimbursement
[19:22] to Andrew for the pump was $2.12.43, so I added them on the bottom.
[19:29] So while we're paused here and we can talk about this length, there is a process to be reimbursed
[19:36] for our expenses relative to the disaster.
[19:40] It's not 100% guarantee, but there's a pretty good chance we're going to get all of our expenses
[19:47] is reimbursed and so Monica's trying to figure out how to track that in the system if we spend
[19:53] $700 we send that up to the state and they'll send that back to us so we're even, it's a net zero
[20:02] but we have to pay the bill and then we see reimbursed. So that's that process and we'll see that coming
[20:10] or several other invoices relative to protecting the springs, protecting the well, in town work.
[20:19] So we'll see some more of that coming in, but that's how that process in a nutshell will work.
[20:31] We have some out $100 to make some $100 garbage extra and $100 to make a garbage of $100.
[20:36] One of the original $1,500, and it's like $8,500.
[21:01] So, to be clear, go ahead, so on our copy, we don't have the road bill.
[21:06] You don't have the copy.
[21:07] I just wrote it on the one that we'll sign.
[21:09] And also, we haven't received the fire frontier bill, the emberage bills, or the UAMS bills.
[21:15] So we can, however, say that, so fire, fire frontier, fire frontier, fire in town,
[21:25] and bridge, and US.
[21:34] So there's the bill she read, including the reimbursements for ropers and Andrew Flakes
[21:42] pump plus frontier emberage in UAMs outstanding.
[21:51] I'll make a motion that we accept all those payments
[21:57] as you just outline. So we have a motion to pay the bills including rovers, a reimbursement
[22:04] Andrew Flake, the fire frontier, the fire emberage, the town emberage, and UMs.
[22:09] Is that all of them?
[22:11] Yes.
[22:12] Okay.
[22:16] All in favor?
[22:17] I.
[22:18] Motion passes.
[22:19] Thank you.
[22:22] Monica, thank you for helping us keep track of so much that now we're adding so much more.
[22:35] Okay.
[22:36] Next up our agenda is a flood mitigation update.
[22:43] So without trying to duplicate what we talked about on Saturday night, I'll go through and tell you a little bit about where we're at and what we're doing.
[22:54] First on my agenda is I've
[23:02] written a letter to the families of the helicopter pilots that crashed and lost their lives by this fire.
[23:09] I have them here tonight, I'm going to sign it, I'd like to include the town council as well and our town staff and make that available to everyone in the community.
[23:21] We have several blank pages, we can put behind them, the people are willing to, you're welcome to sign it, if you'd like to sign that, I will put it down to the post office tomorrow so people can, the art here tonight can stop in and sign it.
[23:36] It's small, it's a token, but we wanted to recognize them and think up to that.
[23:43] This effort is happening similarly in Fillmore, in Canache, on a reservation, and the county
[23:51] commission is doing something similar.
[23:53] So just a gesture that that's what we're doing.
[23:57] So that is ongoing.
[24:06] Tracking the weather feverishly, trying to watch that.
[24:11] We should have similar weather to today, the rest of the week.
[24:15] The weekend, our chance for moisture goes up.
[24:21] We'll see a chance Thursday.
[24:23] It goes up a little bit on Friday.
[24:24] It goes up a little bit more on Saturday.
[24:27] for just a 10th of an inch. It goes up for a quarter of an inch, a little bit
[24:35] on Friday, a little bit more on Saturday. So as we get through the week into the
[24:38] weekend, our chance of rain, accumulating rain, wedding rain goes up. And I think
[24:46] we'll probably see these cycles. As I spoke with meteorologists, usually we're
[24:52] winding down in our mom's funeral cycle right we see that tapering off they
[24:58] think that's gonna carry on into September so so that's something you need to
[25:04] do where I'll try to watch the fire this morning was reported at 129,741
[25:11] acres that's it and they're at 84% contained they've remapped it but the fire
[25:18] air hasn't grown in size in about six days, right? So they feel pretty comfortable about
[25:25] the fire. They felt comfortable about the fire when it was 6,000 acres down south of Kanosh
[25:32] and the large dust devil picked some heat up, carried it several hundred feet across the
[25:37] line and dropped it and then it ran 12 miles. So the fire team that's here will stay here
[25:44] through Wednesday. On Thursday morning, we'll transfer it to a local, the
[25:49] Fix Lake National Force to pick that up. Local firefighters will take that
[25:54] back over. So you'll see much fewer people but those are going to be here
[26:01] watching. So that's what's going on with the fire. As a community, we still have
[26:08] sand bags. We still have sand. We still have bags. We're keeping a reserve.
[26:13] Haley of 17 to 20 pallets we kind of flagged off in case we need to pick those up
[26:21] with a four-cliff or some equipment and take it somewhere where it's breached.
[26:27] Sun grow down here west of Fillmore and swallow farms delivered 25 more pallets
[26:36] of sandbags. Alan Erickson unloaded those tonight. So we've got some more in. I've had
[26:44] a group at Utah County contact me today and ask if they can deliver some more sandbags.
[26:50] That's nothing more than a service project on their behalf. They just want to help.
[26:54] So we will see additional sandbags come in.
[27:00] On Sunday, I didn't see anybody out making sandbags.
[27:03] I wasn't around much today, but I didn't see much activity there, which tells me people
[27:08] are starting to feel a little bit comfortable with where they're at, but we haven't seen
[27:11] any dirty water.
[27:13] I'm okay if we never ever ever do, but that's going to happen at some point, and so maybe when
[27:23] we start to see where our weaknesses are, we may see more sandbags being placed, or other
[27:29] more aggressive actions take place like concrete barriers or dozer line or
[27:37] trenches or ditches or burns so that's what's going on.
[27:44] I have learned that what
[27:47] comes out what used to come out of everything out of Meta Creek and
[27:53] everything out of Walker all met effectively at dead man's point and that has
[28:01] been changed and I sure at some point they'll change it back that took some
[28:05] heavy equipment so walkers nothing out of Walker should come into dead man as it
[28:10] stands today I think in a couple hours of work with some heavy equipment that
[28:15] could be changed back but right now Walker is being diverted south of town so that
[28:22] leaves meadow creek in play for us.
[28:27] The BLM did do some work in the overflow
[28:30] channel to the north coming out of out of the June Hill diversion and those
[28:38] homeowners north of town feel a little bit better about the chances with that
[28:47] work the bill was also done all their work in the foot hills with their diversion structures
[28:55] or we had city talk about erosion control structures. I am meeting with the NRCS on Wednesday.
[29:04] We're going to do a field trip and we'll be looking at some long-term planning and projects and funding
[29:12] coming from the NRCS to help us be best prepared for what may come in the next several years.
[29:22] I think, I don't know, but I think just because we get through this monsoon season, unscathed, that's not the end of it.
[29:30] I think we're going to have spring runoff for several years, so we're going to have an impact.
[29:35] the Monroe Canyon fire that happened in 2025 saw significant flooding last weekend.
[29:42] So that fires a year old and they're still seeing mud and sludge come off the
[29:47] mountain and calling chaos on both sides of that mountain, both on the Monroe
[29:53] side and on the Bear Valley Cusharam side. So I think if we extrapolate that to us we
[29:59] and you can see in the...