Name: Meeting
Duration: 1 h 17 min 57 s
Description: As we need to, anything else that we need to have, uh, doesn't begin to, um, to get the mayor, I mean, after they do that, this is, uh, no drama.

[0:00] The United States of America, and the Republic of which it stands one and can, under

[0:07] God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. This would be the start of the możliốc

[0:16] legal.

[0:19] 2020.

[0:32] No

[0:44] one wanted the backyard.

[0:56] We can see that now.

[0:59] I can see it.

[1:01] There we go.

[1:01] Out.

[1:03] There's our agenda and then we have less soak Patrick.

[1:08] Turn it over to you since you're in charge.

[1:11] Sure.

[1:12] I'm assuming.

[1:15] I don't know who all from the public here, so I'll kind of eventually put that back to you, but I did see that a couple people dialed in from the public.

[1:28] Do you know who all that actually is?

[1:30] Um, I think the majority are our mayor candidates, um, I believe April is a resident that contacted me yesterday that had a question about, um, in ordinance, if there was an audience about these, um, and other than that, I don't know, and David,

[1:57] We missed anybody, you'll have to speak up, I guess, or

[2:05] number three, we'll do approval of the minute.

[2:12] We have a motion to approve the minute.

[2:14] I'll make the motion. I read them.

[2:16] Yeah.

[2:18] I'm sorry.

[2:19] I second.

[2:20] I'm on the table.

[2:22] Hi.

[2:24] Hi.

[2:25] Opposed?

[2:28] Motion carry.

[2:37] I don't know if we want to do the approval of the invoices or receipts yet.

[2:41] I think we ought to skip to.

[2:45] The vacant board so that we can do that.

[2:49] That way we can maybe lose some people as we go.

[2:54] So I guess the question overall is do we just need a motion to put somebody on the vacancy board

[3:00] then or how does somebody appoint that person or that would be by motion and then approve by a

[3:09] majority of council. Okay. I'll make a motion that marks me on the second. I'll second that too.

[3:22] All in favor?

[3:26] Opposed?

[3:29] Don't carry. There's more corn line now? Yeah, I'm here. Okay, as a resident.

[3:35] As a resident, I'm here. Okay. I can't see everybody that's on there. I was getting so many pictures

[3:43] here that I had to take the pictures away.

[3:48] Not that you're not all beautiful, but I couldn't even

[3:52] anyone else except for anything. There are a few people that have their camera on. I don't want to

[3:58] suspect you all to the... I'm sorry if you can't hear me. I was in the yard working and I just

[4:05] realized what time it was. I'm like yeah.

[4:09] So I turned the camera up to do some stuff with looking at myself.

[4:16] You have a camera on your computer that you can see where you want to sit.

[4:23] Yeah, I can pull it up here. I'm just putting up there the candidates and stuff. So I'm just trying to make sure that you can actually see and

[4:36] Hey Patrick. Yes. Just an FYI. My phone dropped the call already. I had a call back in. Okay. Thank you.

[4:50] I'm on this is Bob Griffiths, I'm on the phone, but I'm not on the computer.

[4:55] Yes, I'm on the phone too, Bob.

[5:02] Do you guys want me to read for our callers here, our candidates are Chuck Carlson,

[5:09] Elf Letcher, Kathy Weems, Wake Brandon and Terry Miller.

[5:15] So that's all that's showing on the screen right now for the two Bob.

[5:19] It's just a list.

[5:20] I

[5:27] guess we're looking to see who we're making motions for, is that how we're

[5:34] looking to do this. And then I would, I'd like to make a motion for Wayne

[5:40] Brownian. Yeah, I worked with Wayne on the zoning hearing board. He was in, we

[5:48] some really tough meetings that the public was, really came out as quite a bit. It was

[5:57] just during the time that the church wanted to expand. He was the chairman of the board

[6:03] and we had four, maybe five meetings and they were all ugly and he handled himself extremely

[6:10] well. I think he handled himself better than I could have. And I know what it's like, and I

[6:17] I know some of the problems that Andy dealt with.

[6:20] When you're the mayor, you have people come at you

[6:24] that are upset and they're not always logical.

[6:29] And I have a confidence that he'll

[6:31] he'd be able to handle such a way like that pretty well.

[6:36] And I know he's been involved in the past

[6:38] and some other committees.

[6:40] I just have a lot of confidence in him.

[6:42] I don't know who else.

[6:45] I know Michelle Fletcher also, I've interviewed her in the past, I've been extremely impressed

[6:56] with her.

[6:58] So, but if I'm to make a nomination right now, I'm going to nominate Wayne Brannion.

[7:06] I'll second that motion.

[7:12] Okay, all in favor?

[7:13] I like that.

[7:22] I figured after we got this person nominated and you could go for another

[7:26] nomination.

[7:31] I agree.

[7:38] No, you're okay, that's fine. I mean, because I'm nominating Michelle

[7:42] Fletcher, I know that she's been over to apply for the borough manager's job, do the circumstances

[7:52] When she worked her job, she couldn't do the daylight shift and so it kind of worked out that Yvonne got it because of that. She was over for another council position and then it was actually given to somebody else at that time.

[8:13] So I'm looking to nominate Michelle Fletcher.

[8:29] I was waiting for her to be quiet.

[8:39] I know that Terry has been a resident of Louis-Buybro for quite some time has been interested

[8:44] in getting on council a lot.

[8:46] And she actually read the entire burrow code front to back she read the entire thing and I think she'd be great. She's calm. She's got a great demeanor about her. She's personable.

[9:01] So I would like to nominate Terry Miller.

[9:07] second. I'll second it,

[9:15] but another nomination.

[9:19] As as a resident of Burrow and a

[9:23] past mayor, this is David Ains. I would like to let everyone know that I've done

[9:31] quite a bit of communications with Terry Miller. We've done an awful lot. Community-wise,

[9:40] in the background of course, but and there's been times that she's helped me. I've helped her and I feel that everything that I've ever seen her taking charge of.

[9:58] She has been an excellent person.

[10:01] I know she is well trained and she has the experience to

[10:06] corporations and large companies.

[10:10] And she does a very good job at all that she does.

[10:16] That's what I would like to bring forward to the council tonight.

[10:21] Or recommendation of Terry Miller.

[10:26] Thank you.

[10:30] Is there any other recommendations for nominations if

[10:41] not a motion to close

[10:43] nominations. I'll make a motion.

[10:51] Sorry Bob. I heard somebody made it in

[10:54] some of these seconds that I couldn't tell who it was. It doesn't matter. I can

[10:57] second it. Bob Griffith can make the motion. We both said it around the same time.

[11:03] All in favor?

[11:05] All in favor?

[11:06] All right.

[11:08] Pose.

[11:11] So, Karen, so then we have three nominations.

[11:16] Patrick?

[11:18] Yeah.

[11:19] This is Dan.

[11:20] Can you hear me?

[11:21] I can.

[11:22] Yes.

[11:23] My suggestion before we take any votes.

[11:27] So it doesn't appear anything anybody's been favored is.

[11:30] If we have three candidates, to elect someone has to be a majority of the council, so that

[11:39] requires four votes.

[11:43] I think you need to decide how you're going to do if someone does not get a majority

[11:49] on the first round of voting.

[11:51] If you then take the two highest and then take another vote is the way it's typically done.

[12:00] If someone doesn't get four votes in the first round of voting, then take the two highest

[12:07] and those two then have a runoff, so to speak.

[12:12] And then he's just taken votes until you get a majority.

[12:16] Okay, that sounds like that's what we'll do then.

[12:20] That's the way of Robert's orders.

[12:26] Okay, can I say something?

[12:31] Yep.

[12:32] This is, this, this, to me, this is very hard because usually when you have candidates

[12:37] and every else, you get to meet them.

[12:39] And we're not getting to meet them.

[12:41] So it's going to be interesting.

[12:44] I agree.

[12:49] We're running blind here.

[12:56] Could it be of any help if we all, as in the candidates, had a few words?

[13:04] I was just going to, yeah, I was going to suggest that too, just just maybe help to make people's minds up one way or the other.

[13:17] Okay, down through the list.

[13:23] I

[13:26] guess that puts me first then, is that correct?

[13:29] I didn't use it.

[13:30] Not Yvonne, it is easier for you so that whoever is doing it,

[13:34] you could have the other people muted

[13:36] so you're not getting all the extra seats back

[13:38] till they're done.

[13:40] What now?

[13:42] So would it be easier if whoever is doing it

[13:46] you mute everybody else until they're done

[13:48] so you're not getting all the seat back until the end

[13:51] or the...

[13:52] I can, I have a little button here that says mute all.

[13:54] If you'd like to get the mute all or mute all,

[13:57] I can do that and you can tell me who you want

[13:58] to talk first. That's a good idea. I'm hearing a lot of feedback from everybody. I don't know

[14:06] if it's just bad for everybody else. I just hear a whole lot extra noise. Okay. If you want,

[14:13] so do you want Michelle to begin? What you said? I don't care. That's fine. Yep. It's all

[14:20] mute everybody else. And then all unmute Michelle so she can talk. And then we can have questions

[14:28] if you want to do that.

[14:30] Yep, I think in case somebody wants a question or two we can do that.

[14:34] Okay, so I'm going to mute everybody else and unmute and leave Michelle active then.

[14:40] She's correct me. Thank you.

[14:45] Okay. Michelle, can you hear?

[14:50] I can, yeah. I can hear Anne speak. Can you guys hear me?

[14:54] They won't be able to say anything.

[14:55] Okay, I just want to, I see them shaking their heads.

[15:00] It's fine. I just want to introduce myself, and I'm glad to have the opportunity to be able to do that to Borough Council. My name is Michelle Fletcher, and I am a resident of the borough. I have lived in the borough about 22 or 23 years in the same resident residents, and we're not planning on going anywhere. We are staying here in the borough. We've retrofitted our house to be able to do so. And the reason that some of you might not know me is because I've been working. I have worked in the state of Pennsylvania.

[15:29] for the entire time that we have been here up until last year.

[15:34] And I've worked for companies that are large companies,

[15:38] over 100 employees to small companies that had fewer than 20.

[15:44] My degree is in accounting,

[15:46] so I am pretty proficient in business.

[15:51] I know how business is run from marketing.

[15:55] I've worked in marketing all the way to HR

[15:58] to finance to, to you name it, I've probably just about done it. Some of the

[16:07] companies you might know, or more field communications, or David Leroy

[16:11] plumbing that's here in the Lewis Barrier area. So that's probably why some of

[16:16] the borough doesn't know me because I have been working quite a bit. And recently

[16:22] retired to be able to stay at home. So I am available to be able to help out

[16:27] was some of the borough workings now that I'm no longer working outside the home and that I am home.

[16:35] I am I would love to have questions. I have interviewed for a few positions.

[16:42] Borough council was one of a manager was another and yeah I was still working at the time for

[16:46] the manager position. So I really appreciate your consideration for mayor and hope to work with all

[16:55] you here and in the future. Thanks.

[17:02] Okay. I'm going to unmute. All right, everybody's

[17:05] unmuted again, and so I quickly screened down so I could actually see you guys. So everybody's

[17:14] unmuted, you guys should be able to talk.

[17:18] I guess if anybody has any questions for Michelle,

[17:23] that would be the time to ask them before we go to the next person.

[17:30] Oh, I got to say she seems

[17:31] It's very interesting to interview it for several physicians, all right?

[17:41] You have to unmute yourself, Michelle.

[17:44] You get on mute.

[17:45] I'm sorry, sorry I saw it.

[17:48] I have TV experience for you.

[17:52] So I am pretty proficient in handling myself in situations that might be less than stellar.

[18:04] Very good.

[18:06] Anybody else?

[18:12] Then maybe we ought to go to Wayne and mute everybody in that hymn talk and then go for questions there.

[18:19] Okay. Wayne, which collar are you?

[18:23] Thumbnails.

[18:25] Thumbnails.

[18:26] Thumbnails.

[18:26] Is that what I said?

[18:28] Thumbnails.

[18:29] Number seven.

[18:29] Okay. There you are.

[18:31] I see you.

[18:32] All right.

[18:32] Let me mute everybody else and I will unmute Wayne.

[18:35] I will leave Wayne active.

[18:39] All right. Wayne.

[18:41] There you go.

[18:42] Sorry, everybody.

[18:43] Great. Hi everybody. I'm Wayne Brannion and I live at 212 Lewis Street since 1984. I've been

[18:52] involved in a bunch of things around town over the years and remember the zoning hearing board right

[18:59] now and way back when I was on the planning commission whenever we decided that we had to get the zoning

[19:06] in this town before certain things happen that we would really wouldn't have liked to

[19:14] have happened.

[19:15] If you don't have zoning in your house, in your town, you can have anybody do anything

[19:20] right next to you.

[19:25] We decided that we needed zoning in this town and I got involved with that.

[19:33] I know a whole bunch of people in this town and I'm friends with everybody I've worked

[19:40] at Kuala Packard for 14 years I've entered my own business and I'm a big believer in

[19:48] whenever you do something in this town you have to think ahead because what you do today

[19:54] affects what happened tomorrow. If you said a bad precedent, then you'll have to live

[20:03] with that forever. And your children might have to live with that too. So you

[20:11] have to think

[20:11] before you act very carefully. This is just a small town. We all can be friends, but we

[20:25] have to have some kind of order to our decisions and I can do that. I've handled a lot of difficult

[20:33] things in this town with the zoning and it's been a lot of fun and generally at the end of the day

[20:40] you know you can't always please everybody. We were all civil and we came to a just decision.

[20:50] I can take any questions that you have at this time.

[20:59] All right.

[20:59] I'm mute, everybody.

[21:02] All right.

[21:03] Everyone should be unmuted, so you can ask me your questions.

[21:13] Did you guys hear me?

[21:14] I'm sorry.

[21:16] No, go for it.

[21:18] Wait, are you basically available now throughout the day?

[21:22] Or are you still employed somewhere?

[21:25] for you. Oh, I'm still employed. That's true. Okay. But I have my phone on me at all times.

[21:35] And you would be available to take whatever actions would be necessary.

[21:42] Oh yeah. Okay. I have my

[21:44] phones. I have phones on me at all times. And everybody on council and even friends and neighbors

[21:54] You know, can call me at any time day or night

[22:01] and do you feel you feel do you feel that the

[22:08] The as the mayor of Louisberry you would take action

[22:12] One any violations of rural ordinances

[22:17] Whether you see them yourself or are you one that's going to set back and wait until you hear from somebody else

[22:26] But there should be something done

[22:30] I don't know who the different people are they're speaking is that a is there a feature that I can click on to see who's speaking I can't

[22:38] I'm sorry if you have your screen when you see up or left hand corner

[22:48] I'm on an iPad apparently that's different

[22:51] No, okay, I can answer that I can answer that question now

[22:54] So number one, I'm not an all-enforcement officer, but would I say something to someone

[23:04] if I saw them that was acting inappropriately or against, you know, the borough rules

[23:14] or anything I got, of course I would.

[23:16] They may or may not even know that they're doing something that's not permitted, so you have

[23:22] find those things out first.

[23:27] I mean you know it's something a serious violation or a criminal act.

[23:32] I would do what we all should do just as citizens and that's a notify the authority.

[23:39] Like others in that you know there's all kinds of things that people could do you know zoning

[23:48] Meaning violations, setting fires and inappropriate days, things like that, yeah, I can handle

[23:58] all those things.

[23:59] I don't have no problem talking to anyone.

[24:02] We're approaching anybody.

[24:04] It's all about how you do it.

[24:07] That's correct.

[24:08] I agree with you 100 percent.

[24:11] Just be civil.

[24:13] You know, we're all on the same team here.

[24:15] The only stupid question is one that's not, or the only stupid question is one that's not

[24:21] asked.

[24:25] You're in.

[24:27] Thank you.

[24:28] I'll have to do this for Wayne.

[24:35] Okay.

[24:36] Then I would say we'll have to do a Theresa Miller and you can do that.

[24:41] You're on.

[24:42] Yep.

[24:42] I'll mute everybody.

[24:44] Terry, are you still there?

[24:46] Yeah, I'm here.

[24:48] Oh, there you are.

[24:49] Okay.

[24:49] I mute everybody and let you have a floor.

[24:58] I'm muted or there she is.

[25:03] I am experienced with five years of business administration college.

[25:11] I am pretty much available full time.

[25:16] I have my phone on full time due to the fact that I look after five people medically.

[25:23] so I'm a very huge multi-tasker. I'm very much a

[25:30] people person. As you've already heard, I kind of got a

[25:36] late feedback on that this position was open, or I would

[25:40] have put in for it a lot sooner, but I did crash course

[25:45] myself and read the entire borough code from front to

[25:48] pack. Mind you, I don't know all the code numbers, but it was extremely informative.

[25:56] I picked things up very fast. I have a real key knack for law. I really, really want

[26:06] to work for the people of the borough and make sure that everybody's kind of doing what

[26:13] What they need to be doing, I have neighbors that need to be addressed and would like to address them, but just kind of holding off on it.

[26:26] Overall, you know, for many years, I wanted to sit on the council, but there's been other things that have kept me from doing so, but now I am in a position to where I am really highly interested in becoming mayor of the burrow.

[26:42] working with the council and making sure that things get done the way that they should be done

[26:48] and looking out for the people and making sure the eyes are dotted and the keys are crossed.

[26:53] I'm very, very punctual. I'm very factual in college. We had a lot to do with communication,

[27:04] How to deal with people that are angry on really, as was said before, you have to know how to handle and address people correctly and calmly.

[27:18] Your calmness will calm them down.

[27:21] So with that being said, I would really, really love to be a part of more than just a resident of the town.

[27:30] I would like to be a part of the team, so to speak.

[27:34] So thank you for your consideration.

[27:37] All right, I'm going to unmute everybody now.

[27:41] Everyone should be unmuted.

[27:43] So if you have questions for Terry, you are, you can speak again.

[27:55] Terry, you have a question.

[27:57] Yeah, Terry, you said something about you.

[28:02] See some issues with neighbors that you wanted.

[28:04] you want to address the neighbors. I mean, is that something that you could have

[28:13] come to counsel over? I'm just curious. That kind of stuck out for me when you made

[28:19] a comment. No, sorry. Hi, Dan. How are the dogs? I'm hoping they don't bark through

[28:27] the process. Yeah thank for mine so no this would be something that has just

[28:34] recently arrived like it's been like in the last two three weeks and I'm just

[28:43] kind of trying to observe the people and feel them out. They're different kind of

[28:49] group of individuals.

[28:53] There's one instance where I know that they are

[28:55] definitely, definitely outside of the ordinance, which would be shooting handguns.

[29:03] Yeah, that's all right. I see a, I pay a, I pay a great deal of attention to what goes on inside the

[29:14] burrow. Yeah, because I sometimes people will hire me to take care of their animals, so I'm up and

[29:21] down the different streets.

[29:25] I catch things that are going on the other day. I was coming

[29:30] down front street and there was a big RV on front street. And front street absolutely

[29:38] drives me nuts because it's a, you know, you have to really pull out north street, out

[29:45] into the intersection thus compromising yourself and the person coming from say down from

[29:54] Grace is sore coming up to it or of course I'm so flying

[30:00] And there was a large RV. The nose was parked in the opposite direction coming from graces. It was

[30:09] against the curb. The back end was literally two feet out into the intersection. Would have loved to

[30:17] have stopped there and addressed that individual was and say, hey, you know, you need to park this

[30:24] either correctly. I mean, he was even faking wrong direction on the street. It's things like that,

[30:29] you know that I have no trouble addressing in looking for people. Okay that's a good clarification

[30:36] I'm not through that.

[30:44] Anybody else have questions?

[30:54] I'm assuming not now I guess the overall question

[30:59] and I guess mostly the Dan is the start with the same person we started with or how do you pick who

[31:07] we're going to vote on first.

[31:10] I just think you call each name, each candidate, and take

[31:18] the number in favor of that person.

[31:23] So when you're voting for these people, you're just

[31:28] voting. Yes, you're not voting. No. Okay, you're voting to okay, a person to further along

[31:37] in the voting so it's not possible to vote for two people that's that's what I'm getting correct

[31:48] okay got it okay yeah just vote for one and see who gets the most affirmative votes if there's

[31:56] majority then you're done if if no one gets majority then take the two highest vote getters and then

[32:04] I have a runoff between them and just both, you know, between those two candidates.

[32:11] Okay.

[32:15] I understand.

[32:19] Is it easier if you do this?

[32:22] You want, or, I mean, I can pick a nickname, but is it easier for you?

[32:25] Because I can't see who's talking or who how we're going to keep.

[32:30] I'm not going to keep track, but I don't know if I can get everybody that's going to be voting.

[32:35] I'm right.

[32:36] So I think if you want we can go around and just ask each council member or I mean because I can see people's like initials and then they kind of light up a square when they talk, but if everybody talks at once, I don't know then we'll have to say say your name or like that or I don't know.

[33:01] I mean, we can start with the first one that went first and then do, we didn't do grease

[33:07] and miller.

[33:08] If that makes it easier, it doesn't matter to me.

[33:11] However, if you're going to be talking and write it down or if you want people to say their

[33:17] name and then who

[33:21] the...

[33:27] I agree.

[33:28] I think it would probably be easier just to work our way down.

[33:31] Start with Michelle and then go to Wayne and then go to Terry and...

[33:35] Yeah, I'm talking about whenever, when all of you vote, all at once, I don't know if

[33:40] you're seeing the same.

[33:41] I'm on the Burrow computer, so it kind of light up, the squares kind of light up, and most

[33:47] of them have initials.

[33:48] Some of them say CO for the collar, but we can go that way if you guys, like I see you're

[33:56] lighting up and you have an M, so you're mooring, but that's how you guys want to do it.

[34:01] try to keep track and try to recognize voices and if I have a question I can ask who was that?

[34:07] Or maybe if we say our name. I was going to say that, say, you know,

[34:13] Maureen and Bob Lewis or whoever. Yeah. Just for recording purposes and this is for Dan

[34:20] Oatlin, does Mark vote as part of the vacancy board or he does not? Does. He does. Okay, that's what I

[34:27] not. So, okay. I make a suggestion. Go for it, Tom. Yeah. Why don't you, Yvonne? Why don't you

[34:37] just ask each panel member who they're going to vote for? Okay. Go down the list. Do that, too.

[34:47] Or is that what you've already...

[34:51] No, that, that'll be, that's fine. So, you're... I think, I think,

[34:55] I gotta just call the role and let whoever vote, wherever you call vote, and then, uh...

[35:04] Okay.

[35:05] I like survivors.

[35:07] Here you go.

[35:08] All right.

[35:09] Your number one match.

[35:11] Oh, I'm not number one.

[35:13] You're not number one.

[35:15] It's me, and then you...

[35:17] Damn.

[35:21] I'll vote for Wayne British.

[35:28] All right.

[35:29] Who's my next caller?

[35:31] Should be Bob Lewis.

[35:32] Yeah, I'd like to thank everybody for throwing their names in the ads.

[35:38] We'd like to see if they could get a candidate.

[35:42] But I think Ms. Sutra's been trying for several years to get on the board

[35:47] and get into the boat to the borough.

[35:49] And she's retired and could take everything on.

[35:52] So I'd like to try and give her a shot.

[35:56] Let's see who else do I have here.

[36:00] Dan Soltis.

[36:03] I'm going to vote for Wayne Brandy.

[36:10] Okay. Patrick. I'm going to vote for Michelle Fletcher.

[36:21] Maureen. I'm voting for Terry. Thank you.

[36:25] Okay. Laura. My vote is for Terry. Thank you.

[36:30] Okay. Bob Griffiths.

[36:47] I'm going to vote for Wayne Brandon.

[36:50] Okay, so Wayne has the majority with four, and then Michelle with two, and Terry with two.

[36:58] Actually since, you know, I misspoke because with, you know, Mark is part of the vacancy board.

[37:04] your state of view,

[37:06] so poor is not a majority,

[37:11] right?

[37:12] Yeah, I would have to get a majority.

[37:14] That's correct, yeah.

[37:20] So,

[37:24] then what?

[37:26] And then we don't have a next high.

[37:31] We have the next high, there's a tie to each candidate as two votes.

[37:42] Would

[37:45] to decide two ways we could do it.

[37:49] we could vote again and see if it comes out the same, or we could have Ms. Fletcher and Ms. Miller

[38:00] flip a coin or you know some kind of a random tiebreaker to see who is the second highest.

[38:15] You think it would make any difference if we voted again, or if we should just immediately go to

[38:22] would have had a break or between.

[38:29] I know speaking on my own behalf,

[38:31] I would remain the same with Terry, just saying.

[38:34] I don't know if any other council member

[38:36] changed your mind, but I'm just speaking on my own behalf.

[38:40] And that was sort of my impression.

[38:42] Well, if it will help, I can change my vote to Wayne.

[38:46] I know Wayne, and he was a close second in my mind.

[38:53] So, I don't know if it's too late to change, that would solve the problem.

[38:58] It is too late to change, but why don't we do another vote?

[39:02] Okay.

[39:02] No one had a majority.

[39:04] Okay.

[39:08] You want me to call again?

[39:11] Yeah.

[39:11] All right.

[39:12] We'll go over.

[39:13] Tom.

[39:18] Okay.

[39:22] Bob Lewis.

[39:24] I want to stick with Michelle.

[39:27] Okay.

[39:29] I'm going to vote for Wayne Brannion.

[39:32] Okay, Patrick.

[39:36] I'm actually going to change mine to Wayne because I think that would be the tie

[39:46] breaking

[39:47] of everything but I'm going to change mine to Wayne.

[39:51] Okay.

[39:51] Okay, um,

[39:54] Maureen, Terry, okay, Laura, I will go for Wayne,

[40:05] okay, Bob Griffiths.

[40:09] For Wayne's, Brian, yeah.

[40:11] Okay, and Mark Keener.

[40:16] Wayne already has five, so my vet would really, doesn't matter at this point, yep, correct.

[40:25] Yeah, I think your point has five votes.

[40:26] We do have five now, but yes, six, three, four, oh, yeah, five mark if he with six. Sorry.

[40:36] Yeah, I would, I would vote for Wayne, but at this point, I don't think it really matters because he has the five. That's majority.

[40:43] Okay.

[40:55] Now, what does, what does Wayne have to do to?

[41:00] I know that there's about, he has to go get a certified, how is that working with what's

[41:07] going on right now?

[41:11] So he has to follow his affidavit of residency that he's lived in the borough for at

[41:18] least a one year continuous, he's a registered elector, and then he has to submit a statement

[41:26] of financial interest,

[41:29] and then after he submits that, then he can take the oath of office

[41:33] in front of a notary public.

[41:42] Yvonne, do you have the necessary forms?

[41:46] I do have the affidavit of residency.

[41:48] I do have a statement of financial interest.

[41:51] I will look to see if I have an oath of office.

[41:53] If I don't have it on the computer,

[41:54] it should be in the file cabinet for the office.

[41:58] And so I'll send over the digital items that I have now

[42:02] to Wayne and then see if I have that oath of office.

[42:06] If I don't, I can scan it and then email that one to me within the next couple of days

[42:12] as long as I get it.

[42:16] Do we know where there's a notary?

[42:23] I know Mackenzie was a notary.

[42:26] Is she available?

[42:28] I think she's still doing it.

[42:29] She did some paperwork for me.

[42:38] I'll

[42:47] tell you, in the long run, I'm really glad to see

[42:50] people in the borough that are interested because there are definitely going to be

[42:55] positions open for borough council after the next election. And guys I know

[43:03] that like Michelle I know there's been some situations where you did show

[43:08] interest and haven't gotten the opportunity. I really hope that if you're

[43:16] You're still interested, you're run.

[43:20] Thank you, congratulations.

[43:25] I second that, Dan.

[43:32] Hello, this is Wayne, and I'm a little bit overwhelmed.

[43:39] I'd like to tell all the other candidates

[43:43] that they can call me up at any time with any concerns that they have and any vision

[43:49] that they have about the town of Louisbury. Anything that I can do to further those things,

[43:58] I've been more than happy to work toward that. I'm glad to see that we've had a few people in this

[44:07] town step up and come forward because so many times in the past we've been part of it for less

[44:17] for people to get involved. In this time of great tragedy that we face, we're all gonna have to

[44:30] fit together and help our neighbors out. So if anybody knows of anybody that is stuck in their

[44:39] house, if they get this, you know, we have to figure out a way to help our neighbors and make sure

[44:43] bigger care or get some food delivered or things like that or help them get

[44:50] prescriptions. So that's what I have to say about right now and like I said

[44:56] have an easy to get a hold of.

[45:00] All right. Call me any time.

[45:05] 295, 0661. Would you say that again, please? Okay, well, 717, 395, 0661. Thank you.

[45:21] Yeah, thanks. Thank you.

[45:23] Thank you.

[45:24] Congratulations.

[45:29] Congratulations.

[45:30] Congratulations.

[45:30] Thank you to all for trying out and giving your best shot.

[45:34] And please keep us in mind for the future.

[45:36] Because like Dan Sultza said, there will be opening.

[45:39] So, you know, hope to see some of you on the board next time around.

[45:46] Well, this is Dan.

[45:48] There will be an opening on the hearing board.

[45:51] Right.

[45:51] Wayne. That's far. Yes, there will be. Because that's the other thing I forgot to mention,

[45:59] you'll have to resign from that before you take the oath for counsel for mayor. That's true.

[46:04] And in a way, I'll miss that because there's some good people on there. Eric Carr is on there.

[46:10] If anybody knows, Eric can. He's a straight shooting guy and you could serve with a lot worse people

[46:18] then have. He's definitely an asset to our little burrow.

[46:26] Congratulations,

[46:29] Elaine.

[46:33] I believe we still have another opening on the zoning hearing board as well that we never filled

[46:39] when I wasn't left and maybe it was when can we Thomas left?

[46:46] We never filled up with you on the zoning hearing board or the sewer authority.

[46:50] He was on zero authority, but I don't recall what it was.

[46:53] I'd have to go back to the minutes, but back in January,

[46:55] when we did our review, or we had an open spot.

[46:58] And I believe the consensus was everyone was going to speak to Eric

[47:02] Karnsey if he had somebody to recommend, but that spot does remain open.

[47:06] So at this point, if Wayne resigns, we only have right part on the zoning

[47:10] hearing board.

[47:11] So, yeah, there's got to be two others.

[47:14] Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.

[47:17] Yeah, I'll talk to Rick.

[47:27] Okay. Keep your distance.

[47:31] I was just joking.

[47:40] You just want me to catch it.

[47:42] That's

[47:44] why I keep myself muted so people don't hear my jokes.

[47:49] Come on after you're done.

[47:51] If you go back to that list and we'll keep going down through our agenda.

[47:59] Okay, well I will move back to that.

[48:01] I did send that out to everybody for putting in and for putting interest out to help the

[48:12] borough out.

[48:16] Okay.

[48:17] You guys see that now?

[48:20] I do.

[48:21] Yep.

[48:23] So, um, you guys want to move along?

[48:26] You let me know where you guys want to go.

[48:34] Okay, here we go. Read them out. We don't have too many.

[48:38] We have general fund, perma.

[48:42] The general fund, that's our annual insurance.

[48:45] The general liability public officials and the property

[48:48] and equipment. The general fund share is $4,427.83.

[48:54] cents. Kent, when they came to do the firehouse kitchen inspection and they redid all the

[49:04] fire extinguishers in the in the fire hole, $156.25 and P Daniel Altland for this was back for

[49:18] February services, when Dan was out on his surgery, $710.50, and that is general fund.

[49:29] Electric fund we have red line data systems, $139.44, Stacey needed more paper for the

[49:39] sales of the full papers, utility engineers, $1,020, that was for the make ready. March for

[49:50] first light, electric fund share of the Perma premium, $4,427.83. The Daniel Altland electric

[50:02] fund share was $180.50 and that was for the first light work back in February.

[50:09] And that's what we have for electric fund. For building maintenance, we have the building

[50:18] maintenance fund share of the PERMA insurance premium is $2,758 in 34 cents.

[50:27] night security systems to an un50 dollars. That was for that new radio that put on the alarm system in the community building.

[50:37] And all in, you're in $1.50. That was mostly with the red cap, the solution and the police, and Bortec, $47.60 for cleaning spots.

[50:53] And that's all we got.

[50:55] You're on, sorry, real quick when you were saying about the lease with red cap.

[51:06] Did anything come about with that?

[51:08] I have not heard anything further.

[51:11] That would be, I don't know if Dan has heard anything, but from February,

[51:19] We didn't receive the time for the meeting due to surgery.

[51:25] We haven't done, I haven't heard anything else, but that was, that was an old building.

[51:31] Oh, yeah, sorry, okay, I didn't catch that first.

[51:33] I didn't think if we heard anything since then, because I know there was such a hurry to,

[51:38] you know, get out or switch or do whatever.

[51:41] So I can that was going to be on my report, but I'll address that now there were three possibilities, the medical practice, new hope ministries, and then I can never remember the other group that goes by the initials.

[52:15] I have heard of the word I put a call in but I was never returned.

[52:25] Okay, and I spoke with New Hope Ministries and they would be interested, but they need

[52:35] all of the space, you know, the conference room, as well as the offices where PPC was,

[52:44] and they would be interested, but not for a real long-term lease and only if the lease rent

[52:51] was fair and reasonable, whatever that means.

[52:57] The medical practice I spoke and got the name of the executive director, sent an email,

[53:07] had no response, and then Yvonne got me the contact person that's on site to confirm that

[53:18] I was getting to the trying to contact the right person, which I was, and I tried again.

[53:24] My guess is that she is up to her ears in all the coronavirus problems, and this isn't

[53:35] high on her priority listed to moment.

[53:37] But I only spoke directly with one, and I'm not sure how that would work out, but I really

[53:48] wanted to, I thought it made sense to speak with the medical practice in that they had

[53:54] expressed some interest in the past of getting additional space.

[53:59] Yeah.

[54:00] Oh, I know on that.

[54:02] Hey, Dan, I actually went over today to put some stuff on Yvonne's desk and when I went

[54:09] over, the front door was unlocked and I was a little surprised.

[54:14] So when I went over, I saw it was online, well, the nursing staff family practice was getting some stuff on them, and I actually did talk to her for a little bit today that was passed up.

[54:30] She thought they were very interested in it and also in additional space.

[54:36] But the corona virus thing definitely is top of their list so that's probably why you

[54:42] haven't heard anything from them because they're just overwhelmed right now.

[54:48] That's what I assume.

[54:54] Thank you for the update.

[54:55] I figured as such, let's just one day hear from you guys.

[55:02] Any other invoices?

[55:04] Give on.

[55:05] Nope.

[55:05] That's all I have.

[55:07] I have a motion to pay the invoices.

[55:11] So moved.

[55:15] So moved.

[55:20] All right.

[55:21] All in favor?

[55:23] Aye.

[55:24] Aye.

[55:26] Aye.

[55:28] Opposed?

[55:31] Motion carried.

[55:38] I guess we'll go to the listeners report if you have anything else then.

[55:42] The only other thing I have is with first light.

[55:47] You know, that's the fiber optic cable.

[55:54] And where we are on that, utility engineers has completed their review and indicated the

[56:02] work that needs done on the poles and other lines hanging on the poles before the cable

[56:14] It should have been done before they hung the cable, but before the cable can be hooked

[56:20] up and made live.

[56:23] And the way that works is we need to get a price from a contractor to do that make ready

[56:30] work which is moving some street lights, moving some lines up and some other items.

[56:39] And I think that Bob Griffith had been in contact with some people and I don't think

[56:49] Dub feels that he can do it, and then I'd defer to Bob if there's some other contractor

[56:56] that you would feel comfortable in having to work done, you know, at least getting the price

[57:00] from.

[57:01] I want to make the price.

[57:04] Yeah, I'm sorry.

[57:05] Go ahead.

[57:06] I

[57:09] was on mute. I talked to him. He said that he would rather than a

[57:27] company and I

[57:41] contacted

[57:43] Gettle and I talked to the manager there and she said that they would be interested in

[57:52] giving us a price. Of course now the virus hit and I'm not too much of a hurry right now

[57:59] to meet with anybody, but they are willing to give us a price just as soon as we're

[58:08] ready to do it or want to do it.

[58:12] If I may just speak on one thing, I know I didn't have anything to do with this, but

[58:18] I just want to say that Gettel helped IETC out before in the past when we had the really

[58:25] big electrical problem where we lost power on market and on Louis Berry Quart they came in and

[58:32] helped IETC out and they were a huge help and I just wanted to let that be known that they did

[58:39] help out in the borough before and they were very valuable to us in the past.

[58:46] Yeah I agree with

[58:47] that too and I think maybe some of the IETC employees actually went to get all of that correct?

[58:52] That is correct. They went there and I believe some did go to Abel and in fact Chris still has contacts for Abel, which I'm 90% positive. That's where the majority of the people went. It's some did go to get all.

[59:08] But I don't dare go upstairs or the kids aren't disrupt.

[59:26] I just wanted to say that we're under a timeline to get a price from a contractor to

[59:40] first light. So if we don't want to proceed with them immediately, then I should

[59:49] contact first light and see if they would agree to an extension in view of the

[59:56] fact that they didn't follow the rules anyway.

[1:00:00] In view of the coronavirus problem. And if we get an extension from them, then we can wait. I don't under. You know, first off, they, they strung this when they weren't supposed to, they didn't have the okay. Um, and we are supposed to find somebody to fix the problem. And then they, they pay the bill. That's, that's the arrangement. Correct. Yeah. In your negotiation with them. Can you also maybe talk about the possibility of

[1:00:36] removing their lines. If they don't give us the extension they can they can take the lines down.

[1:00:43] Yeah.

[1:00:47] Yeah. What is the drop? I think they will get I think they will give the extension.

[1:00:54] Yeah. I think they will do.

[1:00:58] I will contact them. Okay. What is the date that we're supposed to have

[1:01:05] it's completed.

[1:01:09] I have to look at the agreement there's a time that after we get the review by our

[1:01:16] engineer what needs done then we have to submit that to a contractor and give a price you know

[1:01:24] give a copy that quote to first light and also top of my head I don't remember that time frame

[1:01:30] but I'll have but I'll have to check that because I think it would be at least 30 days but it's

[1:01:36] probably more like 60.

[1:01:38] Okay.

[1:01:40] Now we can do that then and you know, ask for the extension.

[1:01:46] And then I mean, to me, I don't think it should be very hard.

[1:01:49] They should give you the extension due to the one, the circumstance of the coronavirus.

[1:01:53] And two, do the, throw the ones that put it up without permission.

[1:01:58] But I think that's the best way to go.

[1:02:01] Because it's our, I'll contact them.

[1:02:04] Because it's our lines, is that the reason why first light doesn't get the quotes themselves and then get us to approve it?

[1:02:13] No, it's because they set up that way in the agreement so we can pick a contractor that we would have confidence in doing the work.

[1:02:26] Okay, if I may just put in for one second, I just texted Chris and he said that some

[1:02:33] of the guys, most of the guys actually from IETC, went to Orbit Technologies.

[1:02:41] Orbit Technologies, okay.

[1:02:44] He said he also highly recommends them.

[1:02:48] Would that be guys said?

[1:02:55] No, no, they worked on the lines with Chris.

[1:02:59] Okay.

[1:02:59] or

[1:03:03] bit O-R-B as in boy IT, technologies.

[1:03:14] But he said he also recommended

[1:03:16] Gettel, you know, and he knows Abel as well, but so what it's worth, he just

[1:03:21] wanted to pass it along to you guys.

[1:03:31] You have anything else in, Dan? No, I don't, that's all. Patrick,

[1:03:37] we, we, recognition of the public, I think we did have a resident April who had

[1:03:43] asked about her. We had a question about Units. If we hadn't ordinance against being April

[1:03:54] or

[1:03:54] even April.

[1:04:01] Hello, yes. There you are. So my question is when I moved here a year ago and I

[1:04:12] originally called and asked if I could have two beehives on my property. She asked me, she asked

[1:04:18] me my address and I'm kind of at the edge of town ish. And so she said there wasn't nothing

[1:04:24] yesterday. And I'd like to have two beehives. Recent like I had beehives before but both of them

[1:04:29] died over the winter. And so I was asking if I'm allowed to have two beehives or my property.

[1:04:39] I would probably have to ask Dan and Bobman. I don't know if you have anything specific.

[1:04:45] I don't know, but we can certainly look at the ordinance.

[1:04:52] Yeah, when I looked through the ordinance and see if I didn't see anything that was included in it.

[1:04:57] I don't see anything that's the answer to that.

[1:05:01] So that was my response.

[1:05:04] Because the time to get bees is going to happen within the next week.

[1:05:09] And so I just didn't want to go ahead and buy bee package.

[1:05:13] That's $120 just to get a letter in the mail saying, oh, we don't want you to have that and to take it off the property.

[1:05:23] What's your address?

[1:05:25] 408 North Street. I'm right behind the post office, but I have a really big backyard and at the corner of it there's this little brushy area that was going to put it in.

[1:05:37] So and we're going to set up a fence around it so that way no one can just walk up and touch it and they don't really bother anybody and yeah.

[1:05:49] I've been a beekeeper for three years now and these are pretty good.

[1:05:56] April, this is Dan Altman.

[1:05:59] And is this just for your personal use and family use?

[1:06:06] It's not like you're going to be selling it commercially or anything?

[1:06:09] No. And I'm only going to have this year. I'll probably only have one.

[1:06:14] But I'd like to have the option to have two beides.

[1:06:18] But I'm not going to have any more than that. I don't sell it. It is just for family use.

[1:06:23] Okay. Thank you.

[1:06:26] I will get back with you, Vine, what I find and then she can be any contact with you, April.

[1:06:33] Okay, and she has my email.

[1:06:37] And Dan, since she's saying that since she's saying she needs to be able to know them like a week or so, you can just make sure that.

[1:06:47] I know on top of everything else, if in these deck to be able to purchase it

[1:06:53] next week, we can just make sure we're pretty quick on getting back there.

[1:06:59] That'll be no problem.

[1:07:01] Yeah, I'll look also. I don't recall anything.

[1:07:04] I don't think I don't recall anything either.

[1:07:10] Is

[1:07:13] there anybody else in recognition of the public?

[1:07:16] Sorry.

[1:07:20] I'm sorry you're talking to me.

[1:07:23] No, I was talking to you. I'm sorry. So was there anybody else in the recognition of the public that we missed you on?

[1:07:29] I don't think so. But anybody else time.

[1:07:39] And then you're finished with yours then.

[1:07:44] I guess we'll go to the road committee.

[1:07:51] Okay. At this point, I really don't have anything. I did have a crew of people lined up from

[1:07:57] the college to come finish signs, take care of some issues in the town, but that day

[1:08:04] has gone down the drain with the COVID, COVID-19 flu virus. Most of those people that would

[1:08:15] of come all but one are furloughed at this point.

[1:08:23] So I really don't have anything.

[1:08:29] Electric,

[1:08:35] thank you Tom.

[1:08:38] And Sharon?

[1:08:40] Nope, just that we got that yearly premiums, annual premiums.

[1:08:48] And buildings and grounds, anything that I had for buildings and grounds is the

[1:09:03] I think there was only one rental that ended up being built in there and that was the one on the 14th after that everything.

[1:09:14] Yeah, I think that was the day Patrick you and I were out working at the Burr building and we cut down the bushes in. I cut down the bush. It was in the way for the police to do their traffic monitoring and Patrick picked up spouting that was knocked down off the building.

[1:09:32] really wasn't anything else done to you the building.

[1:09:37] Thank you for your

[1:09:38] guys. Thank you. I have a question about the

[1:09:43] portal.

[1:09:52] They were delicious.

[1:09:56] There actually still is people out there. Not that

[1:10:00] there's large groups. There is still people out there using the field. There's

[1:10:04] still people playing basketball. Singles here and there. I think we should still

[1:10:10] We have them just

[1:10:16] wondering are

[1:10:19] you continuing to not allow people to rent into may or we assessing this or what are we doing?

[1:10:28] Right now we're still going by what the governor said so we're playing it by year day by day.

[1:10:34] So as of right now all the rentals are canceled and still stay at home is lifted.

[1:10:43] Okay, that's what I figured. I just wanted to be certain when I'm asked about it to make sure I'm on the pages that everyone else.

[1:10:51] How are you going to always just make something up, Maureen?

[1:10:59] What's the thing with the trash can lid that's involved here? Are they looking to get new ones? I'm not sure that it is.

[1:11:05] I got an email from Lisa from Ruthering Girls Softball and she said that the trash can

[1:11:13] lids out by the people were all broken and so she wasn't sure who was supposed to be responsible

[1:11:19] for that if they were some new lids, if we were supposed to get new lids, I just don't

[1:11:24] have a police.

[1:11:25] I can't see anything.

[1:11:26] The trash cans themselves just responsible for emptying the trash can.

[1:11:32] So I wasn't sure if you guys do, you know, are we supposed to get me a lids or are they

[1:11:38] supposed to get me lids? Who's responsible for that?

[1:11:45] I thought they were mortocans and that they were just empty and I'm due to the, they had

[1:11:51] the majority of the use. So I think it is our can.

[1:11:57] Okay. And you're talking about the buildings right behind a building, not available in the

[1:12:01] field?

[1:12:04] I'm not sure. She's told me by the field. So, I mean, the email I got from.

[1:12:09] I walk out there pretty often. I can't visualize what they are. But I'll take a look and see all of you guys know if we need to get this.

[1:12:18] I have no problem.

[1:12:19] I think they're the 55 gallon like trash can lids that have the little opening so the trash don't blow out. You know, it means it has a little.

[1:12:30] OK.

[1:12:32] there's only one. She says one of our trash can life the field is broken. Okay, I'll look to see.

[1:12:53] Also, there's a broken door to the dumpster out there. Patrick and I took that off the other day.

[1:13:05] We, uh, today Bobby and I, about to go, I believe you were there too, it's just something

[1:13:11] to Dave Forges, ask him to take a look at that and see if he could make that repair.

[1:13:18] Um, I'd like to, uh, get council's approval.

[1:13:20] Go ahead and do that.

[1:13:21] It's something we need to take care of.

[1:13:23] And it's, it shouldn't be too much involved there.

[1:13:50] I was trying to multitask. I didn't know you guys heard that. My phone.

[1:13:56] I thought it was me.

[1:14:00] That was me going 300 words a minute.

[1:14:03] I thought it was the one.

[1:14:13] Okay,

[1:14:32] okay, we'll go to new business,

[1:14:39] we appointed the mayor, uh, is that the bottom?

[1:14:45] Yeah,

[1:14:50] I'll make that motion.

[1:14:51] Oh second.

[1:14:54] Oh second.

[1:14:55] Yeah.

[1:15:00] As we need to, anything else that we need to have, uh, doesn't begin to, um, to get the mayor, I mean, after they do that, this is, uh, no drama. Then, uh, we're, we're good for the following meeting.

[1:15:21] I hope so. Yes. Yeah. Okay. All

[1:15:28] right. Does anybody have anything else good for the order? Before we, uh,

[1:15:34] And this

[1:15:38] actually went surprisingly well.

[1:15:40] I wasn't really looking forward to it,

[1:15:42] that it did go surprisingly well.

[1:15:44] Yvonne, thank you for pulling this together.

[1:15:47] I think Danny helped too.

[1:15:48] I, this kind of made things possible for us today.

[1:15:52] Thank you.

[1:15:54] Thank you to all involved for getting us together

[1:15:56] and your hard work.

[1:15:58] Thanks, Yvonne.

[1:15:59] You guys are welcome.

[1:16:00] If we, I don't, I hope we don't have to do this in May,

[1:16:04] But if we do, we do have 90 days of use for this.

[1:16:10] Now, the next one, this was our free item for a 14-day trial.

[1:16:15] If we have to use it in May, we'll move through to Webinar.

[1:16:19] It's basically the same thing.

[1:16:20] It's just you can allow more people,

[1:16:23] and it'll actually record differently, I guess.

[1:16:26] But we do have 90 days.

[1:16:27] There were a lot of holidays and 90 days in the emergency

[1:16:33] situation here.

[1:16:36] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We're looking for a good night everyone.

[1:16:43] Looking for number nine. Yeah, it also makes a motion to adjourn.

[1:16:51] On. Hi. Hi.

[1:16:58] Hi. Good night everybody.

[1:17:25] I'm going to go drink a beer and I got a picture of you all put it up there we just like

[1:17:28] we're at the end yeah right okay all right I'll see you it's not the one with the

[1:17:40] more. I wish I did. I told my old friend. We'll have to do that again when we get up there

[1:17:46] to Cabela's. I know. I know. All right, we'll see you. All right. All

[1:17:56] right, nice.

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