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Good evening.
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» This meeting is being held in accordance
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with the New Jersey Open Public Meetings
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Act. Annual notice of this meeting was
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published in the Union County Local
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Source and a New York ledger. Said
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notice was posted in the municipal
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um building. A copy is on file in the
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burough clerk. Fire exits are located in
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the directions I am indicating. If you
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are alerted for a fire, please move in a
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calm, orderly manner to the nearest
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smokefree exit. The burough clerk is
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directed to include this statement in
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the minutes of the meeting.
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» Mr. Clerk, the roll call, please.
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» Councilman Petroski
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» Here.
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» Councilman Johnson here.
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» Councilman Robbina
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» Here. Councilwoman Lions here.
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» Councilman Patel here.
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» Councilman Castellins
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» Here.
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» Mayor Signarella.
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Mr.
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» Clark, greet us in the opening prayer
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followed by the pledge of allegiance.
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» You're here, right?
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Eternal God, grant us thy help. In all
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our duties and perplexities, we ask for
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thy guidance. Give us thy protection. In
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our dangers and sorrows, grant us thy
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peace. Amen.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands, one nation
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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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» There are no communications for review
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this evening. There are no proclamations
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or presentation this evening. May I have
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a motion that the minute meetings be
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approved?
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» Mayor so moved.
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» Second.
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» Is there any discussion?
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All in favor?
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» I.
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» Thank you. I have a motion that the
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bills and payrolls not be read and pass
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for payment.
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» So moved.
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» Second.
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» Any discussion?
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All in favor? I
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» I
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» Have a motion to to I have a motion to
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open the public portion of the agenda
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items only.
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» So moved.
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» Second.
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» All in favor?
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» I
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» I
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like to speak, please come forward to
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the microphone.
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Please state your name if you would like
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to be included in the record.
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We are going to purchase it for 1.2.
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So my question is why are we spending
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close to 400,000 more for a property a
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few months a few months later?
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Mr. Mayor, I'm happy to answer your
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question if you want to just do your
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questions and then we'll um we'll tackle
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at the end of your time.
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» Well, proper procedure is to go through
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the chair as bylaw.
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» Mr. Ramirez, I'm happy to answer your
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question. If you want to finish your
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questions, then I'll answer at the end
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of your time.
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» So, this is how we're doing this. We're
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not going to you have to wait for me.
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» Are you done with any more questions?
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» I've got a few more questions, but
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» Well, go ahead. Why don't you finish the
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questions?
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Well, I mean, you can't answer this
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question for now and then we can
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continue.
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» The mayor is just asking that you read
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all your questions and then they can
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answer them in turn.
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» Well, last time he had a problem
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answering one question. So, before we
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continue going mo asking multiple
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questions.
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» You have so many minutes. Answer your
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questions and we'll answer you.
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» Okay. So, you don't want to answer more
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than one question at once.
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» Well, m Mr. Chair may uh Mr. Ramirez, we
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happy to, but we're trying to respect
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your time. Since you have a finite
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amount of time, we'll allow you to ask
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everything you want. And then at the
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end, since we don't have that
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limitation, we'll answer. If you want me
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to occupy your time, I'm happy to do so.
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» But it's probably best if you get your
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questions out since you have the
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opportunity now.
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» If you disagree, I can do that.
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» I'm asking the mayor. I'm not talking to
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you. I'm talking directly.
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» I spoke through the chair and he granted
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me the ability to speak to you. So,
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» You heard the council. I'm asking the
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mayor. Listen, you heard the councilman.
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» You want a question answered? He might
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take six minutes to answer it. Then your
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time will be up. Do you understand?
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» Okay. Well, last time you had a problem
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answering one question.
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» I don't I I don't recall what you're
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asking, but finish your questions.
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» Why are you changing the uh the way that
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we used to deal with this?
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» Finish your questions and then we'll
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answer you.
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» So, I mean, I've been attending a lot of
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these meetings, and this is the first
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time that you've actually changed the uh
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way that this is run. I mean, even the
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uh slimy piece of [ __ ] mayor that we had
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before was able to answer the question.
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So, why are we
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» Why are we doing this now?
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» You know, chair,
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» Is this something that you made a
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decision on?
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» So, is this something that you made a
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decision on or somebody told you to
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answer it this way? I'm not
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» Okay, go ahead. You have two minutes in
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19.
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» I do have two minutes. Thank you.
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» Yeah, you're disrespectful.
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» You are disrespectful.
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» It's okay. I have the choice to be where
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» Do you want to be respected?
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» That's why we're in this beautiful
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country.
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» You want to be respected.
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» If you find the facts disrespectful,
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then that's your problem.
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» It's not facts. You're you're you're
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disrespectful.
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» You're calling names. The what you just
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did disrespectful. The only thing you
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guys are doing and and hi Mike, how are
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you? The rage bait that you cause and
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what you're doing, that's the only thing
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you're getting my time. Disrespectful.
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» Getting back to my time. Let it go. You
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got you have a finish your time.
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» So my question is let's deal let's start
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with this one. Why are we spending last
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year around November December we were
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going to purchase the lot on East
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Westfield Avenue for 875 plus they were
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going to give us 18,000 a year for
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either two or three years. Now we're
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spending 1.2 million on a lot. And I
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remember last year you said that the
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reason we're doing this is because you
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weren't able to find parking when you
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wanted to get a haircut. We have 50
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parking spots at the huge sixstory
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parking garage for Meridia. Nobody's
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bothered to label it. The residents
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don't even know it exists. If we were so
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desperate for parking, we would be
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taking care of that issue first before
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we spend 1.2 million on a lot. So my
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question is why are we spending that
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money?
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» Mr. Chair, may I uh may I speak?
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» Uh why don't you wait till the 40
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seconds?
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» Go ahead. I'm done. I'm done. You can
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start.
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» Thank you. You may take your seat and
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I'll uh
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» No, I can stay here. This is still my
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time.
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» Sure. For 28 seconds. Um so uh first and
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foremost uh what's on the agenda tonight
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is an allocation for a bond ordinance.
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Um it's not saying that we're actually
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going to purchase a lot for for 1.2. Um
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the contract price remains at 875. Uh so
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it that hasn't changed. Um there's an
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allocated amount that got into
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consideration um closing costs and
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potential
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um issues or last time there was some
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beginning of due diligence that um
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indicated that there might be tanks. So
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what we're going to plan on doing is
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having that tested to make sure there's
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no contamination before the burrow is
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even going to do anything about that. So
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what you see as 1.2 is uh kind of like a
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worst case scenario number when you're
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budgeting for for these things. you kind
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of put like your max and then what it
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ends up being, there'll be a separate
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ordinance for that uh with the final
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number. So, uh as far as your question,
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why is it 1.2 as opposed to 875? It it's
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intended to remain as 875. The number is
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a margin uh so that we don't have to
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amend that and come back twice. So,
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that's the answer to that.
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» So, you're adding a $400,000.
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» Your time is expired, sir.
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» It's okay. I can still talk.
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» Oh, you can't. The time is up, sir.
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» I just did. Thank you.
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» Thank you. Have a good evening.
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Anyone else want to come speak?
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My name is Joseph Verdon.
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I live at 336 Bender Avenue, Rosel Park.
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I'm also the commander of the American
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Legion Post 60 in Rosel Park. I'm here
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to speak to the veterans of the town if
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they need any assistance with the VA or
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any other paperwork to come to the
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Legion and we will help you out as long
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as you bring in your DD214
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and that's that. Now, I would like to
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talk about that lot across the street
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from the uh post.
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I counted the spots on one side is 22
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spots and the other you can't park
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because they have the, you know, the
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drive-thru, but you could put another 20
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around 50 spots that will take. What I'm
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saying is we have night life here at
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Rosel Park Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Uh
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Dowlings busy, Costa is busy. We have uh
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affairs going on upstairs and nobody can
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park. You got to keep going around and
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around. So, I'm in favor of whatever
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you're going to do with it. I don't care
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how much it costs. The town needs it.
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And that's why I'm here to support
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whatever you want. I'm with you 100%.
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And that's that. No bickering, no
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nothing. Just get it done. Thank you so
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much.
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» Uh
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» Thank you. While I'm here next week, I'm
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doing a uh fundraiser barbecue at the
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Legion on Saturday and I want to give
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you complimentary tickets all of you to
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come. Okay. Thank you.
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» Thank you, Commander.
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» Chair May.
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» Yes,
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» Commander. Thank you so much. Um
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when we're examining this is exactly
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what you're talking about. Economic
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development requires parking. So, thank
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you so much. Appreciate that.
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» Thank you, sir.
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That's okay.
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» We got good.
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» Thank you.
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» Thank you. [laughter]
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» Thank you so much.
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I want to take Mr. Verdun's time. Pock
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is clear.
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» Now you get a new five.
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» I get a new five. You know me. I don't
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need five minutes.
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» So, uh, Russell Olden, formerly 526
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Roosevelt Street, Rosell Park. Moved out
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of town about 15 years ago, reinvested
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into the town, opened my restaurant,
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Dallas Irish Pub and Restaurant 13 years
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ago. 1500 square feet. We're currently
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4,500 square feet. have uh
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put a lot of money into the downtown.
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Appreciate everything you guys have
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always done for me. I grew up in this
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town. I love to see this town move
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forward. Um I understand um Mr.
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Ramirez's concerns upon pricing and the
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right times to buy things and and such.
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But for years, for 13 years, I I tried
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to keep my restaurant here. I tried to
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keep my business in town. We were
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flooded with IDA. I was presented with
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an opportunity to move to another town,
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bring my business there. Very, very good
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opportunity. My partner and I sat back
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and decided, no, this is my town. This
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is where I grew up. We spent the money.
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We invested in the town with the promise
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of the town um mayor and council over
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years that we want to build the
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downtown. We want to make it better. We
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want it to thrive. We decided to invest
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in town. I will um
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second Mr. Verdun's comments. I won't
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speak on behalf of other restaurants,
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but I will tell you the downtown is
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starting to pick up a little bit with
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the Meridia Apartments. As a restaurant,
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we're seeing people coming into town and
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staying in town. There's a coffee shop
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two doors down from me that's doing very
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well. There's a gym directly next door
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to me that's doing well. That's all a
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result of the development that's being
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down that's being done downtown on the
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fact of buying a property. I am not a
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financial guy. I don't sit up there with
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you guys. I'm not Andrew.
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Congratulations on your last day. Did I
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jump the gun? Sorry. Um
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» You guys know what you're doing. If this
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is what you think is best for the town,
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it's it's what I feel is best for the
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town. What I will say is I will echo Mr.
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Verdon's comments. Fridays, Saturdays,
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and Sunday nights. I will not speak on
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behalf of Nola at Costas, and I will
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speak on behalf of Mr. Verdon because he
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just said it before me. It is impossible
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to park in our downtown.
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» Mr. Ramirez, you make up a good point.
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The 50 spots that are in the in the
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Meridia building, it's a good point.
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People don't know it's there. There's
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there's no markings for it. It's
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confused. Is it done? Do you have to pay
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for it? We could maybe look into, you
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know, some signage and let people know
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that it's there. Give them that option.
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But those spots that close to us are
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valuable to us. They're of value. I have
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had 12 to 15 customers park there not
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knowing that it's a private property and
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towed out of there. And they come into
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me and say, "My car is towed. It's it's
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a private property. You didn't know
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that. That's that that property there
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will be used. In my eyes, it will be
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used by the public. The the the meter
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system in this town needs to be fixed up
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a little bit. I think that's been
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addressed in in, you know, the last
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couple months. I've heard that there
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might be, you know, some fixes coming to
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that. That needs to be addressed. But I
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will tell you, if you address that issue
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with the parking meters and such, people
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will come and stay and shop and and be
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in our town. And that's what, no
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offense, I don't live in this town, but
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I run a business here that supports the
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Roseell Park Police Department. It
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supports the fire department, which is
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really why I'm here, because I'm going
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to stay for the open public portion. My
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business supports this town just as much
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as this town supports my business. We
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need our customers to have easy access
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to the businesses and the properties
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that are here. If you continue to build
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it and there's nowhere for them to go
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and there's nowhere for them to park and
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it's a hassle for them to park, it's not
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going to work. And I would hate to see
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you guys waste I got 40 seconds left.
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Andrew, I did use my full five minutes.
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I would hate to see you guys waste the
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last 10 years that I've been doing this
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and and not see it through. The
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apartments are filling. The businesses
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under the apartments are filling. We
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need places to park. So that's it. I'll
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echo what Mr. Verdon said. Between me,
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the American Legion, and the other
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businesses that are there, I won't speak
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on their behalf. It's needed. The
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parking is needed. That's it.
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» Thank you.
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I don't have free tickets right now,
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[laughter]
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» Mr. Chair. May I?
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» Yes,
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» Russ. Um, I wanted to just address a
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couple comments you brought up. Um, the
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first thing with the parking at the
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Meridia garage, um, I spoke with the
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chief about this. Um, it was brought up
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before and it's a fair point. We do want
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it signed. Um, the developer agreed to
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put up signage. They have not done so at
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this point. Um, I will follow up with
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the chief, but that is something that
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we've requested a couple times over. Um,
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as regarding the meters, I agree with
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you. It's it's the flowboard system was
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terrible. Um, also spoke with the chief
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about doing something about that. He met
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with the representatives. They just got
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bought by another company. I believe it
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was Park Mobile. And I believe they're
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in the process of switching over to that
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which is more the the standard in other
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municipalities with good downtown. So,
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we hope that that gets addressed both
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from a ease of use and secondly from a
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revenue perspective. Um, the revenue
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that we brought in last year in parking
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was atrocious partially because the
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parking system is just bad. Um, and
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then, uh, regarding businesses and and
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the parking, you're 100% right. We
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cannot develop our economic engine,
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which is our downtown, without
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appropriate parking because it gets
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frustrating. I mean, sometimes if I
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can't find parking, I got to go
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somewhere else, and that's just the
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reality. So, that is the intent here.
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Uh, and regarding the price of the lot,
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um, speaking with Wells Fargo's
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representatives, they essentially they
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have a a practice of selling below
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market price when they sell to a
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municipality. if they were to put it on
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the market, the price would be higher
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than what we would be acquiring it for.
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So, that is uh you know, I guess, you
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know, we're talking about numbers and
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whatnot, we're getting a a below market
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value on it. And due to the revenue that
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we'll get from the Wells Fargo
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drive-thru and the metered parking, it
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will pay for itself based on the the
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calculations we've seen and give us a
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benefit. So, just wanted to address
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those items. Thank you so much.
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[laughter]
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» Thank you for your comments.
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» Yeah, there you go.
[17:37]
Anyone else?
[17:44]
Uh, good evening, mayor. Good evening,
[17:45]
council. I don't give my name. I just
[17:48]
take the names of elected officials that
[17:50]
uh need to be uh addressed. Um, I don't
[17:53]
know what I just walked into, but
[17:55]
whatever we're trying to pass here
[17:56]
tonight, I'm against the whole thing.
[17:57]
I'm against everything. I don't know why
[18:00]
we're rolling back this questions the re
[18:03]
responding in real time. I I I do not
[18:06]
understand that. Here you have an
[18:07]
opportunity to do the right thing. You
[18:09]
have an opportunity for the world to see
[18:11]
you doing the right thing which is
[18:13]
communicating with your residents,
[18:14]
communicating with people who who bring
[18:16]
valid concerns, things that they deem of
[18:19]
public interest. So to not have a comm
[18:22]
not have communication like that,
[18:23]
rolling that back, mayor, I am speaking
[18:25]
to you. I don't know why we're doing
[18:27]
that. I don't know why you're allowing I
[18:29]
don't know why you're giving your balls
[18:31]
away like that to be quite frank. I
[18:34]
expect a mayor to be the one to run the
[18:36]
meeting and make the good decisions. It
[18:38]
doesn't even seem like it's your
[18:39]
decision. It it just doesn't feel like
[18:41]
it is. And through the chair to
[18:43]
Councilwoman Lions, I don't know what
[18:44]
that comment was. I know what you guys
[18:46]
are doing. I don't know. I don't
[18:47]
understand what you're saying. I come
[18:49]
here. I film these meetings. I told you
[18:51]
guys I was going to be coming to these
[18:52]
meetings, right? We've we've entered a
[18:54]
relationship. I'm in a relationship with
[18:56]
Rosel Park right now. So, I'm going to
[18:58]
be here and I will encourage all
[19:01]
residents to come up and ask questions.
[19:02]
The camera should never be an
[19:04]
intimidating factor. It should never be
[19:06]
an intimidating factor. If you're a good
[19:08]
elected official, this is a chance to be
[19:10]
highlighted, to be a good elected
[19:11]
official to show that you care about
[19:13]
public service and you're dedicated to,
[19:15]
you know, your role. You know, I'm not
[19:17]
really sure what the what the what that
[19:19]
remark was about. You know, and for the
[19:21]
record, you know, I have not given my
[19:24]
name. And I know you weren't attempting
[19:25]
to be intimidating by saying my name,
[19:27]
saying Mikey. I know that. I'm not going
[19:29]
to make a claim here and say that you
[19:31]
were attempting to intimidate me. But at
[19:33]
the last meeting, the lawyer did in
[19:35]
fact, when I said, "Why is the lawyer
[19:37]
getting involved?" Because he's the one
[19:38]
who was screwing up the entire process
[19:39]
of the meeting. Totally getting involved
[19:41]
when he shouldn't be. And I counted at
[19:43]
least four or five times where he was
[19:44]
out of order. Wasn't following Robert's
[19:46]
rules of order. He wasn't getting the
[19:48]
permission from the chair to speak. just
[19:49]
just decided to speak and as if he's
[19:51]
running the meeting. That's a problem.
[19:53]
That's a big problem. But what he said
[19:54]
when I said, "Why is the lawyer getting
[19:56]
involved?" He said, "Because I'm giving
[19:58]
legal advice, Michael." It's a it's an
[20:01]
effort to to be intimidating like as if
[20:04]
like we're we're looking into you. You
[20:06]
know that that's the kind of stuff
[20:07]
that's abusive. That's abusive is what
[20:10]
that is. I have come here. I have not
[20:12]
given my name. So I don't think we
[20:14]
should be saying, "Oh, I know who it is.
[20:16]
It's Michael. It's Michael." you. I
[20:18]
don't don't think that I don't think
[20:19]
that that it it's it's not encouraging
[20:22]
to see that at all. I didn't know it was
[20:24]
your last day, Andrew. I think this
[20:26]
council is in serious trouble without
[20:28]
you. When the other guy, Kleinman, is
[20:30]
here, these meetings are are a mess.
[20:32]
Absolute mess. Complete mess. You run
[20:35]
the show. You're the one who knows
[20:36]
what's going on around here. But I don't
[20:38]
see Robert rules of order being properly
[20:40]
followed either. I haven't seen that.
[20:42]
I've seen that uh be neglected. And I I
[20:46]
can kind of tell you're trying to brush
[20:47]
up on it a little bit and I appreciate
[20:49]
that because you know rules and
[20:50]
procedures and these things they do
[20:52]
matter. Um but I don't appreciate like
[20:55]
what what that even was what that remark
[20:57]
was. Here I come to film these meetings
[21:00]
and what if you would mind explaining
[21:02]
what like what was that remark all
[21:04]
about?
[21:04]
» May I go ahead?
[21:06]
» So um first off is just uh regarding um
[21:11]
the respect factor. um if you want to
[21:15]
rewind the tape and uh like I said to
[21:18]
him um which I appreciate your respect
[21:22]
and I res I respect your demeanor and
[21:26]
the way you approach us that to me means
[21:29]
more than anything. Now if you come in
[21:31]
in upset or if someone comes in upset
[21:33]
that's fine but the remarks that were
[21:36]
being done is it that's intimidating
[21:39]
that's bullying
[21:41]
» For just because we sit up here we don't
[21:43]
we don't get abused sir
[21:46]
» So and I apologize if I said your name
[21:48]
but you are a public entity correct
[21:51]
» So if I follow you I I don't follow you
[21:54]
but I may one day um but I appreciate
[21:56]
you I like you I know your name so
[21:59]
everyone knows knows your name cuz you
[22:00]
post with your name. You don't post
[22:02]
under
[22:04]
» Donald Duck.
[22:05]
» Correct. Correct. Although I could. Um
[22:07]
um but the point
[22:08]
» And I and again with all due respect I
[22:10]
say that I would I will never do that
[22:12]
again. I apologize.
[22:13]
» But I I like I
[22:15]
» I said it in a way of just
[22:16]
» Exactly. That's why I'm not trying to
[22:17]
make
[22:18]
» I didn't even want to say guys and you
[22:20]
guys are doing that. I'm just saying in
[22:21]
in the overall thing because I do
[22:23]
appreciate you coming. I do appreciate
[22:25]
you challenging people to come out. This
[22:27]
is open. We want people to come. We want
[22:30]
to see the faces. We want to see the
[22:32]
business owners. We want to hear the
[22:34]
input. But we also want to be able to be
[22:38]
freely to speak and say the truth
[22:42]
manipulation in the residents want to be
[22:44]
able to speak freely. They want to be
[22:46]
able to have a communication, a
[22:47]
conversation because the problem is, and
[22:49]
this isn't just a Rosel Park problem.
[22:50]
Now it's a Rosell Park problem, but this
[22:52]
is all over the state. When you guys
[22:54]
answer after the person has used their
[22:56]
public comment time, then we don't get a
[22:58]
chance to respond. Then you have to wait
[23:00]
two weeks to come back for a followup.
[23:03]
That is not good for public service.
[23:05]
What we're talking about with a back and
[23:06]
forth, which you guys were doing, is
[23:08]
also known as a conversation
[23:11]
to take the time out of your day. Right
[23:13]
now, I was late because I had work. I
[23:14]
have a full-time job. I've never once
[23:16]
went to a meeting where I didn't go to
[23:17]
work that day, you know? So, I apologize
[23:20]
for, you know, not being dressed better
[23:21]
and being a little late, but I mean, you
[23:24]
know, I just I don't know what to say
[23:26]
other than these conversations, they're
[23:29]
there. It's it's very important that the
[23:30]
public has the right to be heard like
[23:32]
that, to be able to have a conversation.
[23:34]
Mayor, I expect you to take a step
[23:36]
forward, not to stay in line, not to
[23:38]
fall in line. I expect I expect you to
[23:41]
take a step forward. These are your
[23:42]
meetings. These are your meetings to
[23:44]
run. These meetings belong to the
[23:46]
public. Let's not let's not make a
[23:47]
mistake in that. comment, sir. When
[23:49]
you're ready, I'll comment,
[23:51]
» Please.
[23:51]
» So, look, I've I've not missed a meeting
[23:54]
in close to six years. The five minutes
[23:57]
to three minute rule, we've had
[24:00]
different ways we've been doing it,
[24:01]
right? Some people like I'm going to
[24:04]
say, earn the respect when they come to
[24:06]
the mic. Okay? And then sometimes we
[24:09]
don't know how many questions somebody's
[24:11]
asking to stay within the five minute or
[24:14]
the three minute rule. In the past,
[24:17]
we've asked finish your comments, put
[24:20]
down your three questions, we'll we'll
[24:23]
we'll answer the questions. We can't get
[24:26]
into a going from a five minute to a 12m
[24:29]
minute back and forth. So, that is some
[24:32]
kind of we're trying to keep a control.
[24:35]
That's why if you see something
[24:37]
different, it's never been one way. It's
[24:40]
been a numerous way. Mr. Ramirez if he
[24:43]
would asked three or four questions and
[24:45]
just said I've had people and prior
[24:48]
mayor I'm yielding my time and we would
[24:50]
answer but we didn't want to go within
[24:53]
10 minutes. So look you and Councilwoman
[24:56]
Lions went back and forth. We're we're
[24:58]
past the five minutes. I'm give you
[25:00]
that. I'm not going to give you 20. You
[25:02]
respectfully you understand that. I
[25:04]
don't see anybody else lining up. No, I
[25:06]
appreciate we're we're trying to do that
[25:08]
to just answer the questions and if
[25:10]
somebody through the chair wants to
[25:12]
answer the comment, we'll try to do
[25:13]
that. We're trying to stay within the
[25:15]
five minute limit.
[25:16]
» I understand and I do I I truly do
[25:18]
appreciate that response. But the
[25:19]
problem that I had at the last meeting
[25:21]
was the mayor the lawyer is getting
[25:22]
involved and saying don't answer
[25:24]
questions right now. Wait till everybody
[25:26]
else has has done went through public
[25:28]
comments. If you get to answer after the
[25:30]
person has spoken, maybe the next person
[25:32]
can have more information so they can
[25:34]
have a more valuable input.
[25:36]
» We're going to try to wrap this up, but
[25:37]
you're right. Sometimes there's stuff
[25:38]
that are in books and people try to
[25:41]
oblige and go to it. Look, some things
[25:44]
are written and that's way maybe he
[25:45]
wanted to follow it. And we do have we
[25:48]
have policies we want to follow, but
[25:50]
there's also wiggle room, right?
[25:51]
» He needs to follow you. That lawyer
[25:53]
needs to follow you. Thank you.
[25:54]
» Thank you, sir.
[25:55]
» Thank you. Anyone else want to come home
[25:58]
to speak?
[26:02]
Seeing no one further, may I have a
[26:03]
motion to close the public portion on
[26:05]
agenda items only?
[26:06]
» So moved.
[26:06]
» Second.
[26:07]
» All in favor?
[26:08]
» I.
[26:10]
I have a motion to accept the reports of
[26:12]
department heads as submitted.
[26:14]
» So moved.
[26:15]
» Second.
[26:17]
» All in favor?
[26:18]
» I.
[26:20]
» Mr. Clark read ordinance 2862 by title.
[26:25]
» Yes, mayor. Ordinance 2862 is an
[26:27]
ordinance for second reading and public
[26:28]
hearing an ordinance amending chapter 10
[26:30]
section 4 subsection 4.1 of the code of
[26:32]
the bur of Rosal Park entitled
[26:33]
recreation fees enumerated.
[26:37]
» I have a open have a motion to open a
[26:40]
public hearing on ordinance 2862.
[26:42]
» Mayor so moved.
[26:43]
» Second.
[26:44]
» All in favor? I
[26:45]
» I
[26:47]
» If you like to speak speak about
[26:49]
ordinance 2862, please come forward to
[26:53]
the microphone and state your name if
[26:54]
you like it and include it on the
[26:56]
record.
[26:59]
» George Ramirez uh ordinance 2862. So I
[27:03]
remember either last year or two years
[27:05]
ago this came up to a vote to increase
[27:10]
uh I believe it was about 900 to a,000
[27:14]
and Mr. Johnson I think made a motion to
[27:17]
see if you guys can give a discount to
[27:21]
first responders and veterans if I'm not
[27:23]
mistaken. And now
[27:26]
a year or two later, we're now
[27:29]
increasing it to 1,500 a year for the
[27:33]
afterare if I'm not mistaken for
[27:35]
individual,
[27:39]
which basically means within two years
[27:41]
or three years max, you guys are
[27:44]
increasing it roughly 600. So that's
[27:47]
what 66% of what it used to be. Why are
[27:51]
we increasing it that much? And have you
[27:53]
guys considered giving a discount to
[27:56]
first responders or veterans now that
[27:59]
it's 1,500 a month?
[28:02]
That's it.
[28:09]
» Councilman Johnson, you want to
[28:10]
» Well, um, Mayor, the only thing I I
[28:12]
could say is uh about this because I'm
[28:15]
I'm not going to talk about the prices.
[28:18]
I'll leave that for you. Uh, but um, Mr.
[28:21]
Ramirez, the 20% uh discount is still
[28:24]
in. If you look at a lot of the things
[28:27]
uh the changes are where the crossouts
[28:30]
are and so it's not crossed out at this
[28:32]
time. If you look like under on page
[28:34]
seven of of 41, it still states the 20%
[28:38]
discount for the first responders are is
[28:40]
in place.
[28:40]
» But as far as the the percentage rage,
[28:43]
uh I would leave that to one of you
[28:46]
guys. This is not my uh this is not my I
[28:50]
didn't sponsor this
[29:03]
» I can can this for the budget reasons
[29:06]
right can you speak
[29:11]
» This is uh this was presented by the uh
[29:13]
recreation director to uh enable to run
[29:17]
all the programs. Uh I think he might be
[29:19]
increasing some. They're looking to
[29:21]
expand it to uh include uh prek this
[29:25]
year. So uh there's going to be some
[29:27]
additional cost in that end with um
[29:31]
[clears throat] having to have more
[29:32]
counselors with the younger children.
[29:38]
» Okay. Thank you.
[29:45]
See, seeing no fur, anyone else would
[29:48]
like to speak on this ordinance.
[29:53]
» Can we ask Ken, what's the percentage uh
[29:55]
increase right now? I didn't get a
[29:57]
chance to to do
[29:59]
» Councilman,
[30:00]
» Do we know I'm from last year?
[30:05]
» Right now, it says uh 1350 to,500 just
[30:08]
uh just so I could just have an
[30:10]
estimate. It doesn't have to be totally
[30:11]
uh spot on. Just
[30:22]
Okay.
[30:25]
» See, no one no one further. May I have a
[30:27]
motion to close the public hearing on
[30:29]
ordinance 2862?
[30:31]
» So moved.
[30:32]
» Second.
[30:32]
» All in favor? I.
[30:36]
» Mr. Clark, please read ordinance 2864 by
[30:40]
title.
[30:40]
» You need to you need to adopt. My bad.
[30:46]
» Oh, did I skip that? No, I didn't.
[30:48]
» Oh, yeah, I did.
[30:49]
» You need a Yeah. Yeah. Surprise. Last
[30:52]
meeting. [laughter]
[30:54]
» A motion to adopt it.
[30:55]
» May I have a motion to adopt ordinance
[30:59]
2862?
[31:00]
» So moved.
[31:01]
» Second.
[31:02]
» All in favor?
[31:03]
» You got to do a roll call. Any
[31:06]
discussion?
[31:07]
» Any discussion?
[31:10]
» Roll call, please. Councilman Petroski.
[31:12]
Yes. Councilman Johnson,
[31:13]
» Yes.
[31:14]
» Councilman Robbina,
[31:15]
» Yes.
[31:15]
» Counciloman Lions,
[31:16]
» Yes.
[31:16]
» Councilman Patel,
[31:17]
» Yes.
[31:17]
» Councilman Castellin,
[31:18]
» Yes.
[31:19]
» Six in affirmative. Mayor, the ordinance
[31:21]
is adopted.
[31:26]
» Mr. Clerk, please read ordinance 2864 by
[31:29]
title.
[31:30]
» Yes, mayor. Ordinance 2864. I told you
[31:32]
I'd give you a surprise last week.
[31:34]
[laughter] Ordinance 2864 is an
[31:35]
ordinance for introduction ordinance
[31:36]
amending chapter 7 section 17 subsection
[31:39]
17.2 two of the code of the bur of Rosal
[31:41]
Park entitled preferential parking zones
[31:43]
locations and hours.
[31:47]
» I have a motion to approve ordinance
[31:49]
2864
[31:51]
for introduction and fix the date for
[31:53]
second reading public hearing on August
[31:56]
20th 26.
[31:58]
» So moved.
[31:59]
» Second.
[32:00]
» Any discussion?
[32:02]
» Yes, mayor. I could just highlight what
[32:04]
this is about. It's uh Horth Street and
[32:06]
Rosewin Street. We had a couple of
[32:08]
residents reach out um since
[32:10]
Horththornne and Rosen both start permit
[32:12]
parking at 400 p.m. till 4:00 a.m. They
[32:15]
had trouble when they had guests coming
[32:17]
over. So, we are changing the time from
[32:20]
4:00 p.m. uh instead of 4 p.m. we're
[32:23]
doing 12:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m. every day
[32:26]
uh for both of the streets.
[32:28]
» Councilman, thank you very much. I know
[32:30]
I got an inbound on this, too, but
[32:32]
thanks for steering this. This is
[32:34]
probably something we should have done a
[32:35]
while ago. It's just uh kind of
[32:37]
universal throughout the that side uh
[32:40]
with West Clay with other streets that
[32:42]
are they have the same timing now.
[32:44]
» Thank you.
[32:45]
» Yep.
[32:46]
» Any other discussion?
[32:50]
» Please. Uh Mr. Clark, please call the
[32:51]
RO.
[32:52]
» Council Petroski.
[32:52]
» Yes.
[32:53]
» Councilman Johnson. Yes.
[32:54]
» Councilman Robin. Yes.
[32:55]
» Counciloman Lions. Yes.
[32:56]
» Councilman Patel. Yes.
[32:57]
» Councilman Castellins.
[32:58]
» Yes.
[32:58]
» So, six votes in the Affirmative. Mayor,
[32:59]
the ordinance is introduced.
[33:02]
» Mr. Mr. Clark, please call. Please read
[33:05]
ordinance 2865 by title.
[33:07]
» Mr. Mayor Ordinance 2865 is a bond
[33:09]
ordinance to authorize the making of
[33:11]
various public improvements in the
[33:12]
acquisition of new additional or to
[33:14]
replacement equipment and machinery, new
[33:16]
information technology equipment, new
[33:17]
communication and signal systems
[33:19]
equipment and new automotive vehicles
[33:21]
including original apparatus and
[33:22]
equipment in by and for the Bur Rosal
[33:24]
Park in the county of Union State of New
[33:25]
Jersey to appropriate the sum of
[33:27]
$5,14,000
[33:29]
to pay the cost thereof to appropriate
[33:30]
various grants to make a down payment to
[33:32]
authorize the issuance of bonds to
[33:34]
finance such appropriation and to
[33:36]
provide for the issuance of bonding
[33:37]
anticipation notes in anticipation of
[33:39]
the issuance of such bonds.
[33:42]
» I have a motion to approve ordinance
[33:44]
2865 for introduction fix the date
[33:47]
second reading uh and public hearing on
[33:50]
August 20th, 2026.
[33:53]
» So moved.
[33:54]
» Second.
[33:54]
» Any discussion?
[33:56]
» Yes, mayor. I have a question about the
[33:58]
property 30 uh 31 East Westville A. Um,
[34:02]
last time when we had the close session,
[34:04]
we talked about the property having uh
[34:07]
tanks down below. Um, do we know how
[34:11]
much I know we we won't know till we
[34:13]
actually, I guess, start digging. Um, do
[34:16]
you know how much it will cost and
[34:18]
what's down there before we even buy the
[34:21]
property?
[34:24]
» No, I don't know, but Councilman Castle
[34:27]
has some inbound to that. We've been
[34:28]
talking. He could
[34:29]
» Sure. Um
[34:31]
I wasn't here when when this was going
[34:33]
on last year. My understanding was that
[34:35]
um from what the original um due
[34:39]
diligence found that there was two
[34:40]
houses on the property at some point.
[34:42]
They had like traditional um heating uh
[34:46]
tanks is what it appeared to be um that
[34:48]
were probably decommissioned at some
[34:49]
point. Um to my understanding there was
[34:51]
no actual diligence done at that point.
[34:54]
Everybody just kind of like okay let's
[34:56]
walk away. Um, so typically, and this I
[34:58]
know from my my real estate experience,
[34:59]
typically what we would do is uh take a
[35:01]
soil sample first. So you take a boring
[35:03]
down to make sure that the soil has no
[35:05]
contamination. So they'll do different
[35:07]
areas around to make sure that there was
[35:08]
no spills. Um, back then, and this
[35:11]
happened in my own house, most of the
[35:12]
times when people decommissioned these
[35:14]
oil tanks, they wouldn't remove them.
[35:15]
They would just extract the oil and
[35:16]
throw sand in it and then just let it
[35:18]
be. Um, if that's the case, uh, which is
[35:21]
likely to be the case, uh, an extraction
[35:23]
of a tank like that, 550gal fuel tank is
[35:27]
about $2,000, uh, per tank. Um, and then
[35:30]
whatever the cost of patchwork is,
[35:32]
assuming that there's no contamination.
[35:34]
If there's contamination, different
[35:35]
story, blows it open depending on the
[35:37]
extent of it all. Um, I don't believe
[35:39]
that anybody here is interested in going
[35:41]
that route if there is such a a
[35:43]
situation. Um, that's why the due
[35:44]
diligence would be done first.
[35:46]
» Okay. So if there is contamination, we
[35:48]
will be we're not going to go through
[35:50]
the sale.
[35:50]
» So obviously that's for this board to
[35:52]
decide. Um if it's the matter of
[35:54]
sometimes it's like a a localized thing
[35:56]
that happened decades ago and it could
[35:57]
be residual. There's like levels uh that
[35:59]
find like parts per million in the soil.
[36:01]
If it's a simple thing, then it can be a
[36:04]
minor cost. If it's a more serious
[36:06]
thing, it's a bigger cost. I don't think
[36:07]
anybody would like to proceed at that
[36:09]
point. Um from my understanding, but we
[36:11]
will know before we decide.
[36:13]
» Okay.
[36:13]
» Mayor, I do have a question actually.
[36:15]
Question for the clerk. Um Andrew, I I
[36:18]
remember
[36:20]
when this came up um initially, wasn't
[36:22]
there money set in escrow by Wells Fargo
[36:25]
for any testing or possible remediation?
[36:28]
» No.
[36:31]
» Did they do any initial sampling at the
[36:33]
time or No.
[36:33]
» No.
[36:36]
» Okay.
[36:38]
» They didn't.
[36:40]
» I thought there was a discussion that
[36:41]
they were going to Okay.
[36:44]
And then are we doing that now though?
[36:47]
Are is that going to be put in? You're
[36:49]
» Talking to the wrong person. Yes.
[36:51]
» Just council. Go ahead. Go ahead.
[36:54]
» Uh just to clarify, right, this is um
[36:57]
early early stages. The only reason this
[36:59]
is here is to appropriate the money in
[37:01]
the event that we were to proceed. So
[37:02]
there's nothing like we're pretty much
[37:05]
trying to pick it up where it was left
[37:06]
off of and then do things the right way
[37:09]
forward. Um but very early stages. This
[37:11]
is just setting aside money. We're not
[37:12]
even borrowing this money at this point.
[37:14]
What we're authorizing is just having
[37:16]
the money aside in case we're going to
[37:17]
proceed with it. If we end up saying no
[37:19]
as a collective body, we're not going to
[37:20]
proceed, then we just don't bond for
[37:22]
that.
[37:24]
» Council Johnson, do you have something?
[37:26]
» No, no, that's fine. I'm I'm I'm all
[37:28]
right with uh us bonding because I think
[37:30]
last year I think that was one of the
[37:32]
concerns that I shared uh with the
[37:34]
budget because we was planning on paying
[37:36]
outright paying for it.
[37:37]
» So, I'm already I'm actually uh okay
[37:40]
with that process. Yeah, Councilman, I
[37:42]
agree with you. It's it's the more uh
[37:43]
financially prudent decision, especially
[37:45]
with the revenue that we'll get from it.
[37:46]
It'll pay for itself instead of just
[37:48]
putting it out of our surplus and
[37:49]
putting ourselves in a bad
[37:50]
» That's what I was just trying to convey
[37:51]
last year. Thank you.
[37:52]
» I agree with you.
[37:54]
» Anything else over here, folks? You
[37:57]
good?
[38:01]
» Roll call.
[38:02]
» Yeah. Roll call. Yes, sir.
[38:03]
» Councilman Petroski?
[38:04]
» Yes.
[38:04]
» Councilman Johnson?
[38:05]
» Yes.
[38:06]
» Councilman Robina?
[38:07]
» Yes.
[38:07]
» Councilwoman Lions?
[38:08]
» Yes.
[38:08]
» Councilman Patel?
[38:09]
» Yes. Councilman Castellins.
[38:11]
» Yes. Six hosts in the affirmative.
[38:12]
Mayor, the ordinance is introduced.
[38:16]
» Mr. Clark, please read ordinance 2866 by
[38:20]
title.
[38:20]
» Yes, mayor. Ordinance 2866 is an
[38:22]
ordinance for introduction, an ordinance
[38:24]
amending chapter 22 of the code of the
[38:26]
burough roal park entitled fire
[38:28]
prevention and protection so as to
[38:29]
regulate recreational fires within the
[38:31]
burrow.
[38:32]
I have a motion to approve ordinance
[38:34]
2866 for introduction. A fix the date
[38:38]
for the second reading and public
[38:39]
hearing as August 20th, 2026.
[38:43]
» So moved.
[38:44]
» Second.
[38:47]
» Any discussion?
[38:50]
Mr. Clerk, please call the role.
[38:51]
» Council Petroski, yes.
[38:52]
» Councilman Johnson, yes.
[38:54]
» Councilman Robin, yes. Counciloman
[38:55]
Lions, yes.
[38:56]
» Councilman Patel,
[38:57]
» Yes.
[38:57]
» Councilman Castellins,
[38:58]
» Yes.
[38:59]
» Six votes in the six votes in the
[39:00]
affirmative. Mayor, the ordinance is
[39:02]
introduced.
[39:04]
» Mr. Clerk, please read ordinance 2866
[39:07]
2867 by title.
[39:09]
» Yes, mayor. Ordinance 2867 is an
[39:11]
ordinance for introduction. An ordinance
[39:13]
amending chapter 28, section 1,
[39:14]
subsection 5 of the code of the burough
[39:16]
Rosal park entitled placement at curb
[39:18]
suitable containers.
[39:21]
I have a motion to approve ordinance
[39:23]
28667
[39:25]
for induction and fix the second date
[39:29]
for second reading and public hearing as
[39:31]
August 20th, 2026.
[39:33]
» So move
[39:34]
» Second.
[39:35]
» Is there any discussion?
[39:36]
» Yes, mayor. Uh we had spoken just before
[39:39]
the meeting with a couple members of the
[39:40]
audience, Councilman Patel and I. And uh
[39:43]
under section one uh subsection C there
[39:47]
is a a mention here plastic bags of any
[39:49]
type shall not be utilized as a suitable
[39:51]
garbage container for purposes of this
[39:53]
chapter. Can we clarify does that mean
[39:55]
in the question that members of the
[39:56]
audience had does that mean that they
[39:58]
can't put plastic bags out? They have to
[40:00]
be in actual containers, garbage
[40:03]
containers.
[40:04]
» Mayor, can I Yeah,
[40:06]
» This one I know. Thank you.
[40:07]
» That is what that means.
[40:08]
» So everybody has to have a container.
[40:10]
» Correct.
[40:14]
Was there an issue prior? What if
[40:16]
somebody doesn't have a container?
[40:17]
» This that's an existing part of the code
[40:19]
that's not being changed.
[40:20]
» That's an existing code.
[40:22]
» So that's been enforced.
[40:24]
» It has been enforced.
[40:26]
» Yes.
[40:29]
» Are we talking about black bags?
[40:30]
» Yes.
[40:30]
» Correct.
[40:31]
» Exactly.
[40:31]
» Or white bags or blue?
[40:34]
» Mayor.
[40:35]
» No. All but but black bags, white bags,
[40:37]
any any bag. They have to be in a
[40:38]
container. That is the
[40:39]
» That was the construction. Mayor,
[40:41]
[snorts] just uh from my prior
[40:42]
experience with a a maintenance task
[40:44]
force before, um I think there there's
[40:47]
like a thing with raccoons just ripping
[40:48]
it open and making a big mess. So that's
[40:50]
why a lot of municipalities require it.
[40:53]
Rodents, you know, require it in a in a
[40:55]
bin. It could be in bags, but in a bin
[40:57]
rather than open to feral animals
[40:59]
getting
[41:00]
» That's correct.
[41:04]
» Any other discussion?
[41:06]
Mr. Clark, please call the role.
[41:08]
» Councilman Petroski,
[41:08]
» Yes.
[41:09]
» Councilman Johnson,
[41:10]
» Yes. Councilman Robbina.
[41:11]
» Yes.
[41:12]
» Counciloman Lions, yes.
[41:13]
» Councilman Patel,
[41:14]
» Yes.
[41:14]
» Councilman Castellins,
[41:15]
» Yes. Six votes. Affirmative. Mayor, the
[41:16]
ordinance is introduced.
[41:18]
» All matters are listed with an asterct
[41:21]
considered to be routine and
[41:22]
non-controversial
[41:24]
by the council and will be approved by
[41:26]
one motion. There will be no separate
[41:29]
discussion for these items unless a
[41:31]
member of the governor body so requests
[41:34]
which the case the item will be removed
[41:37]
from the consent agenda and consider
[41:39]
this normal sequence on the agenda as
[41:42]
part of the general's orders. Mr. Clerk,
[41:44]
please read all resolutions by title.
[41:47]
» Yes, mayor. Resolution 16126 is
[41:49]
accepting the resignation of Ben Scotty
[41:51]
from the position of plumbing sub code
[41:52]
official and plumbing inspector.
[41:53]
Resolution 16226 is appointing Ben
[41:55]
Scotty as a part-time covering plumbing
[41:58]
subcode inspector. Resolution 16326 is
[42:01]
appoint is appointing Angelo Carza as a
[42:03]
plumbing as the plumbing subcode
[42:05]
official and plumbing inspector.
[42:06]
Resolution 16426 is accepting the
[42:09]
resignation of Dena Doic from the
[42:11]
position of college counselor.
[42:12]
Resolution 16526 is accepting the
[42:14]
resignation of Olivia Reeri from the
[42:16]
position of adult counselor without a
[42:18]
teaching certificate. Resolution 16626
[42:20]
is promoting junior records clerk Joan
[42:22]
Brennan to the position of senior police
[42:24]
records clerk. Resolution 16726 is
[42:27]
approving the insertion of a national
[42:29]
opioid settlement fund grant as a
[42:31]
special item of revenue in the 2026
[42:33]
municipal budget in the amount of 612
[42:36]
$6127.
[42:38]
Resolution 1682526
[42:40]
sorry hopefully did I mess this up all
[42:43]
the way? No, just a few is accepting the
[42:45]
2025 municipal audit report. Resolution
[42:48]
12 16926 is approving the corrective
[42:51]
action plan for the 2025 municipal
[42:53]
audit. Resolution 17026 is rescending
[42:56]
resolution number 9125 awarding a
[42:59]
contract to DLS Contracting Inc. for the
[43:01]
project 2025 Sidewalk Program in an
[43:04]
amount not to exceed $100,000.
[43:06]
Resolution 17126
[43:09]
is authorizing the purchase of concrete
[43:11]
repair systems from Ocean Construction
[43:13]
LLC pursuant to Educational Services
[43:15]
Commission of New Jersey Co-op contract
[43:17]
number 22/23-33
[43:20]
in an amount not to exceed $100,000.
[43:22]
Resolution 17226 is approving the
[43:25]
insertion of a recycling tonnage grant
[43:27]
as a special item of revenue in the 2026
[43:29]
municipal budget in the amount of
[43:31]
$5,55.84.
[43:34]
Resolution 17326 is revising the
[43:37]
schedule of 2026 regular meetings
[43:39]
regular meeting dates of the mayor and
[43:41]
council. Resolution 17426 is approving
[43:44]
the time due calculation in terms of
[43:46]
final payment for William Centenno.
[43:48]
Resolution 17526 is approving the timed
[43:50]
due calculation and terms of final
[43:52]
payment for Andrew J. Casayas.
[43:54]
Resolution 17626 is appointing Nicole
[43:57]
Vez to the position of recreation
[43:58]
secretary/clerk within the Rosal Park
[44:01]
Recreation Department. Resolution 17726
[44:04]
is appointing Maline Kandro to the
[44:06]
position of municipal clerk. Resolution
[44:08]
17826 is urging the state of New Jersey
[44:10]
to ban algorithmic rental price
[44:12]
software. Resolution 17926 is
[44:14]
authorizing the treasur and tax
[44:16]
collector to issue a check in the amount
[44:18]
of $1,495
[44:20]
in corre in connection with erroneous
[44:22]
payments applied to property taxes
[44:24]
instead of sewer utility fees for
[44:26]
various properties. Resolution 18026 is
[44:29]
authorizing the tax collector to issue a
[44:31]
reduction and or refund on one sewer
[44:33]
utility bill in the total amount of
[44:35]
$1,944.
[44:38]
Resolution 18126 is authorizing the tax
[44:41]
collector to issue a reduction and or
[44:42]
refund on one sewer utility bill in the
[44:44]
total amount of $198. Resolution 18226
[44:48]
is authorizing the extension of the
[44:49]
grace period for payment of third
[44:51]
quarter property taxes for the year 2026
[44:53]
until August 31st, 2026. And resolution
[44:56]
18326 is amending the 2026 capital
[44:59]
budget.
[45:02]
» Do any members wish to have any items
[45:04]
removed from the consent agenda?
[45:05]
» Mayor, I just have a question and uh
[45:07]
Andrew, maybe you can answer it. Um the
[45:10]
one where we're amending the the meeting
[45:12]
schedule. Is there a specific change
[45:15]
because I don't see anything bolded.
[45:16]
» So it's uh so that that that reflects
[45:18]
the the what the meeting schedule will
[45:20]
be. The two changes are the second
[45:23]
meeting in November. I'm sorry. The
[45:24]
second meeting in September is being
[45:26]
moved from the Thursday to the
[45:27]
Wednesday. Okay.
[45:28]
» And then the second meeting in November,
[45:30]
which conflicts with the League of
[45:31]
Municipalities, is being moved to the
[45:33]
Monday following that meeting. So, the
[45:36]
Monday of Thanksgiving week.
[45:37]
» Thank you.
[45:41]
» I have a motion to approve resolutions
[45:43]
remaining on the consent agenda.
[45:45]
» So moved.
[45:46]
» Second.
[45:47]
» All in favor?
[45:48]
» I
[45:53]
Uh, now we're going to borrow council
[45:56]
committees.
[45:59]
» You're excused. Have a good evening.
[46:02]
Hey, [snorts]
[46:04]
Councilman Robbina,
[46:07]
mayor. Well, good evening, Mayor,
[46:10]
council colleagues, and residents of
[46:11]
Rosel Park. First, I'd like to thank our
[46:14]
first responders, Lieutenant Koka, and
[46:16]
the DPW for their efforts during the
[46:17]
severe windstorm on July 3rd.
[46:19]
Thankfully, there were no reported
[46:21]
injuries and crews worked quickly to
[46:22]
clear down trees, roadway obstructions,
[46:24]
and restore power throughout the burrow.
[46:27]
Also want to thank Director Shaw, Chief
[46:29]
Reno, Sergeant Company, Officer Lizo,
[46:31]
and Manny from Valentino's for going
[46:34]
above and beyond to assist residents and
[46:36]
support operations at the Casano Center
[46:39]
uh during both the outage and the recent
[46:41]
heat waves. Throughout this stretch of
[46:43]
extreme weather, keeping residents
[46:45]
informed regarding cooling center
[46:46]
availability, uh restoration updates and
[46:48]
heat safety information has remained the
[46:50]
top priority. The Casano Center
[46:52]
continues to be an invaluable resource
[46:54]
for neighbors uh seeking relief from the
[46:56]
summer heat. On Saturday, July 11th, I
[46:59]
had the privilege of attending the dual
[47:00]
Eagle Scout Court of Honor for Troop 56.
[47:03]
I joined family, friends, and community
[47:05]
members in celebrating Roosevelt Park's
[47:07]
newest Eagle Scouts and future leaders,
[47:08]
Noah Seaffort Smith and Declan Kley.
[47:11]
Achieving scouting's highest honor
[47:13]
requires years of hard work and
[47:14]
dedication, and I congratulate both
[47:16]
young men on this tremendous accomp
[47:18]
accomplishment.
[47:21]
I would also like to thank the Roso Park
[47:22]
Fire Department and police department
[47:24]
for their continued partnership during
[47:25]
our community cooldown events. Community
[47:27]
cooldown is one of my favorite summer
[47:28]
traditions in the fifth ward and Tuesday
[47:31]
night's kickoff saw an outstanding
[47:33]
turnout. It's been wonderful to see many
[47:35]
families come together to enjoy
[47:36]
themselves and cool off during the
[47:37]
summer heat. Our next event will take
[47:39]
place this coming Tuesday from 6:30 to
[47:41]
7:30 across from the high school.
[47:44]
Additionally, I'm pleased to announce
[47:46]
the installation of a new little free
[47:48]
library at Aldine Park. With this
[47:50]
addition, residents now have access to
[47:52]
three Little Free Libraries throughout
[47:53]
the fifth ward, helping promote
[47:55]
literacy, neighborly connections, and
[47:57]
love of reading.
[47:59]
As chamber liaison, I continue to
[48:01]
encourage residents to support our local
[48:03]
businesses and take advantage of
[48:04]
networking and grant opportunities
[48:06]
available through our regional partners.
[48:09]
Looking ahead, the chamber will host its
[48:11]
summer social at Kennallworth Hotel on
[48:13]
Thursday, August 6th. The event is free
[48:16]
to attend and I encourage our local
[48:17]
business owners and entrepreneurs to
[48:19]
join us. RSVP information is available
[48:21]
on my Facebook page and the Greater
[48:23]
Union Chambers page. Finally, I want to
[48:26]
thank everyone who attended and
[48:27]
contributed to this year's Independence
[48:30]
Day celebration. This year's event was
[48:32]
one to remember as we simultaneously
[48:34]
celebrated Roosevelt Park's 125th
[48:36]
anniversary and the 250th anniversary of
[48:39]
our nation's founding. Thank you to
[48:41]
Mayor Signarelloo, my council
[48:42]
colleagues, our Union County
[48:44]
Commissioners, municipal staff,
[48:46]
volunteers, vendors, and most
[48:48]
importantly our residents for making the
[48:50]
evening such a tremendous success. As a
[48:52]
reminder, please join us next Thursday,
[48:55]
July 23rd for our family swim night at
[48:57]
the Clark Pool. Full details are
[48:59]
available on the burough social media
[49:00]
pages. Link for Roso Park residents and
[49:02]
families to RSVP is on Monday's post. As
[49:06]
always, I'm available to assist
[49:08]
residents with any questions, concerns,
[49:09]
or ideas. Please feel free to reach out
[49:11]
to me directly. 862-22360019
[49:14]
or by email. Uh email has changed. It's
[49:18]
journal.gov.
[49:20]
And uh before I conclude, I just wanted
[49:22]
to wish Andrew uh well on his future
[49:26]
endeavors. Andrew, it's been a pleasure
[49:28]
working with you, learning from you. I
[49:29]
appreciate how you've always been fair.
[49:31]
Uh your guidance and leadership and um
[49:35]
thank you so much. Appreciate you.
[49:37]
» That's all. Mayor,
[49:38]
» Thank you, Councilman. Councilman Patel,
[49:41]
» Um no formal uh report, but uh Andrew,
[49:44]
thank you. Hopefully, you could build a
[49:46]
lot of um skates park in Beyon. We
[49:49]
didn't have [laughter]
[49:50]
» We didn't I already built one.
[49:52]
» Yeah, I know. I know. We That's
[49:54]
something one of the kids asked me. So,
[49:56]
I remember us talking about it in Rosen
[49:58]
Park, but we don't have the space for
[49:59]
it, but hopefully you could build more.
[50:02]
Um, that's pretty uh the other thing I
[50:04]
guess I wanted to talk about is the the
[50:06]
property in the downtown the 31 East.
[50:09]
Um, originally I was against the buying
[50:13]
that property for the amount. Um, but
[50:16]
seeing the commander and the business
[50:18]
owners coming down and asking us that
[50:20]
this is something that they require, uh,
[50:23]
made me change my vote. So please come
[50:26]
out if you have any suggestions. Uh
[50:28]
happy to listen to any opinions uh too.
[50:32]
So thank you. That concludes my report.
[50:34]
» Thanks Council Patel. Councilwoman
[50:36]
Lions.
[50:37]
» Good evening Mayor and council and
[50:40]
residents of Rosal Park. Um I just
[50:42]
wanted to uh just encourage everyone
[50:45]
just continue definitely to come out and
[50:47]
like uh Councilman Patel said and I said
[50:49]
before, we definitely want to hear from
[50:51]
you. We want communication. Um, and we
[50:54]
want to hear your concerns. Um, and we
[50:57]
are here for you. Um, I had a great
[51:00]
month so far. Um, I actually was able to
[51:04]
uh go to the fireworks July 1st that we
[51:07]
did have here. I just want to commend
[51:09]
everyone that came out. We had a packed
[51:11]
house there and it was hot and everybody
[51:14]
came out and was so excited for it. It
[51:16]
was just very inspiring. I wasn't able
[51:17]
to stay a lot. Um, but it's awesome to
[51:20]
see the kids and family and just
[51:22]
enjoying summertime fun. Uh, it's always
[51:25]
awesome. Um, and I wasn't able to attend
[51:28]
the cool down, but that looks so like so
[51:30]
much fun. I just commend you for that,
[51:32]
uh, Councilman Rebana. That was just,
[51:33]
it's so great. Um, I just wanted to
[51:36]
actually uh, also acknowledge Anna
[51:39]
Feeder Rico. I did speak about her a
[51:42]
couple times before. She is uh she
[51:44]
turned a hundred this year and um the
[51:48]
mayor and myself were able to go to her
[51:50]
home and give her a proclamation from
[51:53]
Rosal Park just honoring her and
[51:55]
spending time with her. Um I am so
[51:58]
grateful for residents that did reach
[52:00]
out to me, a neighbor of mine, uh Mrs.
[52:02]
Bodner. Um she actually reached out to
[52:04]
me and said there's a woman in Rosal
[52:06]
Park that needs to be honored and I said
[52:08]
my pleasure. her and I was able to spend
[52:10]
some time with her, give her some some
[52:12]
of her favorite food from Costas. Um, we
[52:15]
were able to get her some chicken um
[52:18]
some chicken cutlets and manotei and uh
[52:21]
also some devil dogs. [laughter]
[52:23]
Um but yeah, she enjoys that. Um, but
[52:26]
she's just a pleasure and um, I did even
[52:29]
post some some videos of her and she's
[52:32]
an inspiration and her her motto is
[52:34]
really just to be nice to people and to
[52:36]
be kind because they'll they'll be, you
[52:38]
know, it'll come back to you. Um, but I
[52:41]
hope to see her soon and I keep in touch
[52:43]
with her just so just to make sure she's
[52:45]
doing well as as well. Um, and just uh,
[52:48]
so last night we did have our summer
[52:50]
nights open mic. We went from doing it
[52:53]
pretty much all of July to one major uh
[52:57]
show uh last night and we were uh we had
[53:01]
a storm in the beginning. So, I just
[53:03]
want to thank everybody that was on
[53:04]
board. We have a team of people that are
[53:06]
just communicating and seeing if it was
[53:09]
safe to go. Uh we had a storm coming
[53:11]
through, literally flying through. We
[53:13]
had the fiery sun that's happening right
[53:15]
now. We even had a power outage. But I
[53:18]
have to say, these kids came out, they
[53:20]
sang. Um, we have the bands coming out
[53:23]
from Land's Music, which is our music
[53:25]
school right here in Rosal Park. And I
[53:26]
just want to commend uh Juan. He is just
[53:30]
an amazing young man. He um he's
[53:32]
self-taught and he literally has a
[53:34]
school going and he's inspiring adults
[53:37]
and kids to really bring out their
[53:39]
giftings. And he set up everything. I
[53:42]
just want to thank him. I want to thank
[53:43]
uh Rupen Shaw, uh the DPW, our uh Rosal
[53:47]
Park PD, uh the mayor, and also uh
[53:50]
Councilman Petray for coming out. Thank
[53:52]
you guys so much. Um and just for the
[53:55]
kids that came out, uh I have to say
[53:57]
when the power outage came happened, we
[54:00]
tried to actually connect everything.
[54:02]
Um, but then we have uh Charlie, if
[54:05]
anybody knows Charlie Munz uh Guzman, he
[54:08]
actually came with his guitar and he was
[54:10]
encouraging the kids because they got
[54:12]
upset they weren't able to sing, but we
[54:14]
did it in uh by candlelight really. Um,
[54:16]
but then he got everything to to work
[54:19]
out. Um, but I just want to just applaud
[54:21]
you guys and cheering you guys on and
[54:23]
just really tell the residents, come out
[54:25]
to the events that we have because
[54:26]
they're not for us, they're for you. Uh,
[54:28]
so please check our schedule and um,
[54:32]
yeah, if you need me, rions
[54:33]
rosalpark.net or.gov or did we at.gov.
[54:38]
[laughter]
[54:39]
» Okay, it'll get to the same place. Uh,
[54:41]
9087268773.
[54:44]
Thank you.
[54:45]
» Thanks, Councilwoman. Councilman
[54:46]
Petroski.
[54:48]
» Thank you, Mayor. First of all, I want
[54:50]
to send my condolences out to Lawrence
[54:53]
Smith, Giovani Flecker, and Laura
[54:56]
Seaffir.
[54:58]
On June 24th, I attended the uh
[55:01]
recreation committee's summer kickoff.
[55:04]
Uh Tina, great job as usual. Um I was
[55:09]
very surprised. We had well over 100
[55:12]
kids there. It was packed. Um and then I
[55:16]
want to thank Tina uh by talking to her
[55:19]
son and we were able to get the fire
[55:21]
department to come and wow, it was a big
[55:24]
hit. I think every kid got in line. Um
[55:26]
they uh sat in the fire truck, went
[55:29]
through the apparatuses there. Um again,
[55:32]
it was a good very good turnout and I uh
[55:35]
I I thank Tina for having it. Um in that
[55:40]
on uh June 25th, I had a meeting with
[55:43]
the business administrator, Al Marella.
[55:46]
Uh we kicked a few things around, talked
[55:48]
about a few uh things in town. Um, I
[55:53]
personally want to thank you and I I
[55:55]
know there was other people involved,
[55:57]
but I want to thank you for getting
[55:58]
their uh passes for the fire department.
[56:01]
I mean, I really appreciate and um, you
[56:04]
know, like I said, a couple thank me,
[56:06]
but I did let them know it. I you know,
[56:09]
you
[56:10]
» Idea, Councilman,
[56:11]
» I I appreciate and I know you had
[56:13]
something to do with it and Don McFino
[56:15]
and all that, but I do want to thank
[56:17]
you. Um, so I was very happy to hand him
[56:21]
over to the chief today and he'll give
[56:24]
because you know I go to the fire
[56:26]
department meetings every month and
[56:28]
that's the first thing they hit me with
[56:29]
their passes, their passes and
[56:31]
everything. So uh um so I'm I can go to
[56:35]
the September meeting and not worry
[56:37]
about them. So I do thank you very much
[56:39]
for that. Um on July 1st I attended the
[56:43]
fireworks. Okay. Oh, going back to the
[56:46]
June kickoff. Mayor, I want to thank you
[56:49]
for showing up that night and Rosanna, I
[56:52]
know you did a walk by, but uh it was a
[56:54]
pleasure talking to you that night. Uh
[56:57]
um going back to the fireworks,
[57:00]
uh it seems it was great. I got a lot of
[57:02]
compliments from residents. Um very hot
[57:06]
day um and everything. um the two girls
[57:10]
that we have singing, they do a f
[57:12]
fantastic job um and everything, but uh
[57:15]
everything went well. I want to thank
[57:17]
the fire department, uh the Roso Park uh
[57:20]
police department, the DPW for
[57:23]
everything. And uh um like I said, I I
[57:27]
thought everything went well with the
[57:28]
fireworks. Uh July 2nd, we had a capital
[57:32]
budget meeting to go over get ready for
[57:36]
the budget. Uh uh this week uh this
[57:40]
meeting last night I attended the open
[57:42]
mic and uh Rosanna great job. I'm so
[57:46]
amazed how these kids perform. Um a
[57:49]
former uh councilman and uh a person
[57:52]
that used to show up all these mean Jake
[57:55]
Majiraa
[57:56]
always used to say Roosevelt Park got
[57:58]
talent and they proved it last night. I
[58:01]
was um it's fantastic um and everything.
[58:05]
Um, Andrew,
[58:08]
uh, thank you for your many years thing.
[58:11]
Um, I can actually say I voted for you
[58:13]
the first time.
[58:14]
» You're the only one left. [laughter]
[58:15]
» I know I'm getting old, I guess. Okay.
[58:18]
But, uh, and I'm I hope you don't mind.
[58:21]
Uh, back then there was a lot of
[58:24]
controversy because you were a
[58:26]
Republican.
[58:26]
» Still am.
[58:27]
» Yeah, I know [laughter] that. Uh but we
[58:30]
uh took parties aside and I knew how
[58:33]
much he uh growing up in this town and
[58:36]
how much he cared about this town and uh
[58:39]
I took a chance and voted for him and I'
[58:41]
I've been happy every time. I mean
[58:43]
anytime I had any issue, you always
[58:45]
there for me um and everything. But I
[58:49]
can also say uh Maneline I I voted for
[58:52]
you also for this one too. So, that's
[58:54]
two people I vote. Um, um, uh, council,
[58:59]
uh, former mayor Hokasen, I know, uh,
[59:02]
me, we voted for Andrew. We got him in
[59:04]
and, uh, you did a great job then.
[59:06]
» Thank you.
[59:07]
» Right to the end. I I appreciate.
[59:09]
» Thank you.
[59:10]
» Um, if you need to contact me, you can
[59:13]
get me at jetrosky rosepark.net
[59:16]
9086667821.
[59:20]
And that's my report. Thank you. Thanks,
[59:22]
Councilman Petroski. Councilman Castins.
[59:25]
» Thank you, Mayor. Good evening,
[59:27]
everybody. Um, wanted to cover a couple
[59:30]
of things that have happened and, um,
[59:32]
talk about some, uh, new legislation
[59:34]
that that's, uh, going to impact us. Uh,
[59:37]
first of all, uh, thank you everybody
[59:39]
for your feedback. Um, Jimmy, for
[59:41]
example, now we are going to.gov. Thank
[59:42]
you for bringing it up, man. You see,
[59:44]
this is we're a responsive council. When
[59:46]
when we hear good ideas, we we'll
[59:48]
listen. And, uh, there's other things
[59:49]
you sent in there that we, uh, we're
[59:51]
incorporating. So, thank you everybody.
[59:52]
Your feedback does not fall on deaf ears
[59:54]
here and that's something that I
[59:55]
appreciate very much about this body
[59:57]
because I've worked in government before
[59:58]
and there are bodies who have deaf ears.
[1:00:01]
So, thank you so much for uh for your
[1:00:03]
suggestion and and happy that we uh we
[1:00:05]
transitioned on July 10th. We moved over
[1:00:07]
to our.gov. Uh if you email or if you go
[1:00:10]
to net, it'll still redirect you. Um but
[1:00:12]
we are a.gov site now. Um so that's the
[1:00:15]
first thing. The other thing um just
[1:00:16]
just quickly touching on economic
[1:00:18]
development. Um that is a passion of
[1:00:20]
mine. Uh I I chair the special
[1:00:22]
improvement district in in Rawway. Um
[1:00:24]
it's something that I'm passionate about
[1:00:25]
because that's where my business was
[1:00:26]
located. Um and looking at a downtown
[1:00:30]
parking is always the first thing for
[1:00:32]
businesses to thrive. So I'm very happy
[1:00:34]
that this council has um has also
[1:00:36]
listened and and we're moving forward
[1:00:38]
with this. Uh we're a long way from
[1:00:40]
getting it done, but it's it's a step in
[1:00:41]
the right direction. Uh and after you do
[1:00:43]
the development, you have to start
[1:00:44]
focusing on the economic part of it
[1:00:46]
because without you know, one feeds the
[1:00:48]
other. So very excited that we're at
[1:00:50]
this part of uh Roso Park. Now, um next
[1:00:53]
I wanted to highlight the uh Roso Park
[1:00:54]
home improvement program. For those of
[1:00:56]
you that don't know, um there are uh
[1:00:59]
loans uh they're forgivable 10-year
[1:01:01]
loans. Uh believe up to $30,000. They
[1:01:04]
can cover important things like roof uh
[1:01:06]
redunds, uh to do redo your roof, to uh
[1:01:08]
do plumbing work, things like that. Um
[1:01:10]
if you follow the guidelines, it is a
[1:01:13]
forgivable loan and it's an interest
[1:01:14]
free loan. If you are interested in
[1:01:16]
that, uh please uh look at our website.
[1:01:18]
We have information on there. They're
[1:01:20]
administered through uh cgph, but um you
[1:01:22]
find all the information at the roso
[1:01:24]
park.gov website. Um
[1:01:28]
next, I wanted to talk about the uh
[1:01:30]
there's two legislations, one's at the
[1:01:32]
federal level, one's at the state level,
[1:01:33]
and I wanted to bring to council
[1:01:35]
attention, and um we're probably going
[1:01:36]
to hopefully have more conversations
[1:01:38]
about this. The first one is uh 21st
[1:01:40]
Century Road to Housing Act. Um, this
[1:01:42]
went into law Friday night. Um, it was
[1:01:45]
an incredible bipartisan bill. Um, it's
[1:01:48]
probably the only thing with such a
[1:01:50]
majority to get passed at the federal
[1:01:51]
level with Democrats and Republicans
[1:01:53]
agreeing on everything pretty much. I
[1:01:55]
mean, I think there's like 10% of the
[1:01:56]
legislature didn't vote for it. Um, the
[1:01:59]
president did not sign it, but he didn't
[1:02:01]
veto it. So, statutoily, it went into
[1:02:03]
law on the 10th day. Um the 21st Century
[1:02:06]
Road to Housing Act does a lot of
[1:02:07]
different things, but there is a
[1:02:08]
provision on it that incentivizes local
[1:02:11]
municipalities uh to take on some of
[1:02:14]
that red tape that that happens that has
[1:02:17]
been slowing down uh residential
[1:02:18]
development. I'm not talking about the
[1:02:19]
buildings. I'm talking about more like
[1:02:21]
single families, multif two families,
[1:02:23]
things like that. Um and the federal
[1:02:24]
government is actually incentivizing
[1:02:26]
local municipalities to enact some of
[1:02:27]
these changes and in return we will have
[1:02:30]
access to more funding through CDBG. Um,
[1:02:33]
obviously more money for us that we
[1:02:35]
don't have to charge our taxpayers for
[1:02:36]
is always a positive thing. So, I'd like
[1:02:38]
for us to explore that. Um, I'll bring
[1:02:40]
this up at the land use board and and
[1:02:42]
um, you know, ask about what we can
[1:02:44]
integrate if any and we can examine, but
[1:02:46]
that is a really really fantastic thing.
[1:02:48]
And then there's another piece of
[1:02:49]
legislation at the state um, actually
[1:02:52]
let me just hit a couple things. uh the
[1:02:54]
Road to Housing Act um
[1:02:57]
it actually uh I don't know you this
[1:03:00]
this would hit the news but it makes it
[1:03:01]
so that large investors can't buy single
[1:03:05]
family properties anymore. Um which is a
[1:03:07]
big thing because we're talking about
[1:03:08]
how they were competing with with
[1:03:09]
regular mom and pops. Um so that's a big
[1:03:11]
thing. It changes rules on manufactured
[1:03:14]
uh homes which is going to benefit and
[1:03:16]
lower the cost on those. Uh and instead
[1:03:18]
of being single stories now those will
[1:03:20]
be able to be uh two stories. So, it's a
[1:03:22]
hodgepodge of different laws that tries
[1:03:24]
to uh modernize our housing and it helps
[1:03:28]
with affordability or that's the intent.
[1:03:30]
And the last one is um Assembly Bill
[1:03:32]
3877 and Senate Bill 2960.
[1:03:37]
Uh they have both passed New Jersey
[1:03:39]
legislature and are now at the
[1:03:40]
governor's desk for signatures. Uh those
[1:03:43]
bills uh in large part are asking
[1:03:46]
municipalities to uh call for a special
[1:03:48]
re-examination of their master plan um
[1:03:50]
and tackle things like two family homes
[1:03:53]
and three family homes in certain zones
[1:03:55]
as well as accessory dwelling units. Um
[1:03:58]
and it actually does a very important
[1:04:00]
thing. It incentivizes municipalities by
[1:04:02]
giving us more funding for
[1:04:04]
infrastructure projects like uh road
[1:04:06]
work. Um and there's a provision in it
[1:04:08]
that if you do some of these things, you
[1:04:10]
can get up to 10% more state aid to the
[1:04:14]
school district of the municipalities
[1:04:15]
that do this. So, this can benefit our
[1:04:17]
schools, which I know um can use the
[1:04:19]
extra funding. So, I'm going to be, you
[1:04:23]
know, keeping up on all these things as
[1:04:24]
soon as it gets passed and hopefully we
[1:04:26]
can look at these and see what kind of
[1:04:28]
uh things we can adopt. Um and it gives
[1:04:30]
us priority for funding for different uh
[1:04:32]
projects. Uh they'll rate you
[1:04:34]
essentially based on how how much you
[1:04:36]
integrated into your master plan that
[1:04:38]
the new law requires. um the more you
[1:04:40]
do, the higher ranked you will and
[1:04:42]
you'll have access to funding from the
[1:04:44]
state uh first. So those are all things
[1:04:46]
I'm keeping an eye on in in this period
[1:04:48]
and I wanted to bring to the council's
[1:04:49]
attention and I will be bringing more to
[1:04:51]
us here. Uh and then just wrap just to
[1:04:53]
wrap up my comments. Um Andrew, thank
[1:04:55]
you so much. I know my time with you
[1:04:57]
here um on council has been short, but
[1:05:00]
we've been on the land use board for
[1:05:01]
years and just me dealing with the
[1:05:03]
burrow been dealing with you for a long
[1:05:04]
time and uh you're a very fair person.
[1:05:06]
You're a very smart guy and uh we will
[1:05:08]
definitely miss you. So, thank you for
[1:05:09]
your time and thank you for your
[1:05:10]
service.
[1:05:14]
» Okay, Council Lines, you forgot
[1:05:17]
something good.
[1:05:17]
» I am sorry.
[1:05:20]
» 30 seconds. 30 seconds.
[1:05:21]
» I have your name right here and I
[1:05:23]
didn't, but thank you so much. I I saw
[1:05:25]
you out in the hallway, but um just to
[1:05:28]
everybody's been saying it and um
[1:05:30]
» And nauseous [laughter]
[1:05:32]
» With the smoke or Sure, we'll say that.
[1:05:35]
» All right. Yeah. But I mean, please keep
[1:05:38]
in touch. Um, but just from when I
[1:05:41]
started uh here, you were just a huge
[1:05:44]
wealth of information and a help and and
[1:05:46]
you know, I appreciate you and
[1:05:48]
everything that you do and I'm wishing
[1:05:49]
you the best and please keep in touch,
[1:05:51]
please.
[1:05:51]
» Thank you.
[1:05:52]
» Thank you.
[1:05:54]
» All right. So, I uh en enjoyed the
[1:05:57]
fireworks. I think I've been going to
[1:05:59]
most of them since 1994 was our first
[1:06:02]
year we had the fireworks.
[1:06:04]
I think this year was they were awesome.
[1:06:07]
I was attending the fire um department
[1:06:10]
um function Tuesday night. Well
[1:06:13]
attended. I'm glad we didn't have a last
[1:06:14]
Tuesday. The kids would have been
[1:06:16]
chilly. I open mic was nice last night.
[1:06:18]
It was pretty amazing, Councilwoman that
[1:06:20]
I think 90% of the kids sung and that's
[1:06:22]
when the light the power went out and
[1:06:25]
whatever. Uh we got through right. The
[1:06:27]
guys got through like you said. We uh we
[1:06:30]
saw uh Anna, she was amazing. I told my
[1:06:33]
wife that we'd be going there. I'd be
[1:06:35]
stopping by for 10, 15 minutes. I came
[1:06:37]
home an hour and a half later. It was
[1:06:39]
nice. Good time. She was just amazing
[1:06:41]
for 100 years old. Um remind everybody
[1:06:44]
the farmers market is open. Uh they've
[1:06:46]
had two or three uh first couple
[1:06:49]
Wednesdays hot, but a couple new vendors
[1:06:51]
there this year. Um some pastries and
[1:06:54]
donuts. Uh empanadas.
[1:06:58]
Um and um the hot dog guys there this
[1:07:01]
year. So check out the farmers market
[1:07:04]
every Wednesday up to Wednesday before
[1:07:07]
Thanksgiving. Um
[1:07:11]
um so for everybody on council, remember
[1:07:14]
that show, call a friend. Uh phone phone
[1:07:16]
a friend. Andrew gives you one call.
[1:07:18]
Phone a friend. [laughter]
[1:07:21]
Uh and look,
[1:07:22]
» I already changed my number. I
[1:07:23]
» I'll brief I'm going to briefly talk
[1:07:24]
about the parking lot. I do know over
[1:07:27]
time that res um excuse me the uh
[1:07:31]
businesses in town have uh needed this.
[1:07:34]
I think it's a good thing and I think we
[1:07:37]
all agree that uh if we find something
[1:07:39]
uh we're not going to touch it. This is
[1:07:42]
a good thing and let's embrace it and
[1:07:44]
and move forward. Other than that um
[1:07:47]
that's the end of my report. Uh may I
[1:07:49]
have a a motion? Oh, excuse me. Mr.
[1:07:51]
Clerk, please read my appointments for
[1:07:53]
the record for mayor appointments. Yes,
[1:07:55]
mayor. The mayoral appointments this
[1:07:56]
evening are as follows. They require no
[1:07:58]
confirmation of councel. Appointing
[1:07:59]
James Company as class 2 member of the
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municipal land use board effective July
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20th, 2026 to fill the unexpired term of
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Andrew J. Caias set to expire December
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31st, 2026. And appointing Jessica
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Bonfonte as a member of the Rosal Park
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Recreation Committee effective
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immediately to fill the unexpired term
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of Sal Campanella set to expire December
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31st, 2026.
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» Thank you, K. Thank you, Andrew. May I
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have a motion to open the public portion
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on any subject?
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» So moved.
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» Second.
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» All in favor?
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» I.
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» If you'd like to speak, please come
[1:08:32]
forward to the microphone. Please state
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your name if you would like it included
[1:08:36]
in the record.
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» Good evening. Uh Jimmy Matthews live
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here in Rosal Park. I just wanted to
[1:08:48]
bring some attention to something I
[1:08:49]
noticed today in the bill list that gets
[1:08:52]
published with the agenda. Uh there was
[1:08:56]
an item there indicating a purchase of a
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a surveillance camera that's of the type
[1:09:03]
that usually is placed permanently in
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some uh traffic monitoring place and it
[1:09:10]
continuously records and automatically
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picks up license plates and sends it to
[1:09:14]
a a third party company. It's a national
[1:09:17]
company that um it's uh they're a cloud
[1:09:23]
system where that that's stored. Um so
[1:09:27]
my question I guess I just want to make
[1:09:31]
sure everyone knows that that's
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happening. I mean it's not really a
[1:09:34]
normal kind of surveillance to do in a
[1:09:38]
public place like on the road. Um, it's
[1:09:40]
$8,500 I think of what it was. And it's
[1:09:44]
uh
[1:09:45]
I mean I can imagine there are some kind
[1:09:47]
of public purposes that are that that
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kind of thing could be used for
[1:09:54]
maybe even locally, but it's hard to
[1:09:56]
imagine one that would be like a real
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use. And I don't know if that was
[1:10:00]
something that u
[1:10:02]
was really discussed as like for some
[1:10:05]
specific reason like we should have this
[1:10:07]
thing. Um,
[1:10:13]
I mean it it raises the question of, you
[1:10:15]
know, if I decided I wanted to put a
[1:10:17]
camera on my lawn that monitored every
[1:10:20]
car that drove by because everyone's
[1:10:22]
speeds on Fate would have uh and I
[1:10:25]
wanted to, you know, write letters to
[1:10:26]
them and do do that kind of thing. I
[1:10:28]
think I would probably not do that
[1:10:30]
because it seems like some kind of
[1:10:32]
violation of privacy of the people that
[1:10:33]
are driving past, but like that's what
[1:10:36]
this system does. I think um I actually
[1:10:40]
don't know all that for sure. So, uh I'm
[1:10:43]
just going based on the information
[1:10:45]
about who the the brand is for that
[1:10:47]
company and um
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so I'd be happy to be correct on that.
[1:10:53]
So, um, the flight camera.
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» Yeah, Mayor, that was a recommendation
[1:11:08]
of the police uh, chief to put that on
[1:11:10]
the agenda and put that bill is. There's
[1:11:12]
license plate readers, you know,
[1:11:14]
throughout the state that just help with
[1:11:17]
policing. That's all it is. Thank you.
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» George Ramirez, 500 East Clay. First of
[1:11:24]
all, chairs. Nice. Thank you, Mr. Duck.
[1:11:28]
Uh, so I just want to start off by
[1:11:30]
saying that the my questioning about the
[1:11:32]
parking lot isn't that we shouldn't buy
[1:11:34]
it. It was why we're
[1:11:38]
have on the books now 1.2 compared to
[1:11:41]
the 875
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uh just a few months ago. Uh, second of
[1:11:45]
all, I'd like to say that respect is
[1:11:47]
earned and trust and trust is earned.
[1:11:50]
All right. I've been attending these
[1:11:52]
meetings for two months, two years I
[1:11:54]
should say, and there have been a lot of
[1:11:58]
instances where the public is told one
[1:12:01]
thing and you guys do something
[1:12:03]
completely different. You know, I could
[1:12:06]
name a handful of things. You know, the
[1:12:08]
DPW was told that there was no issue
[1:12:11]
with the DPW lot. Meanwhile, it's super
[1:12:14]
contaminated with cancer-causing
[1:12:17]
chemicals as well as super elevated uh
[1:12:20]
levels of mold. Uh, I questioned if
[1:12:24]
there were any uh dumping that we didn't
[1:12:27]
know about at the DPW yard and the
[1:12:29]
attorney, the previous attorney told me
[1:12:32]
that every
[1:12:33]
uh
[1:12:35]
dump was basically had a bill of
[1:12:37]
lighting and it turns out that the EPA
[1:12:40]
just a couple months later determined
[1:12:42]
that there was illegal dumping going on
[1:12:44]
there. Uh, what else? We were told that
[1:12:46]
the pilot programs, all of these
[1:12:49]
apartments were going to be paying
[1:12:50]
paying their fair share towards the
[1:12:52]
schools. And even a gentleman here
[1:12:56]
that's in the crowd was told that the
[1:12:59]
schools would be getting money from it.
[1:13:01]
Last year, they got zero from it. Uh
[1:13:04]
what else? You guys approved three
[1:13:07]
marijuana dispensaries, but it didn't
[1:13:08]
mean that three dispensaries were going
[1:13:10]
to go up. Meanwhile, they did go up. Two
[1:13:13]
of which are in miscount. uh Miss Lion's
[1:13:17]
ward. Um there's a handful of things. I
[1:13:21]
mean, we have uh Mr. Castelins's over
[1:13:23]
here who had a meeting at a uh property
[1:13:26]
on a Sunday that was never disclosed to
[1:13:29]
put a board of ed building there. So,
[1:13:31]
there's a lot of issues going on in town
[1:13:34]
by you guys that doesn't represent the
[1:13:37]
people of Rosal Park. You keep telling
[1:13:40]
people, "Yeah, call me. We'll have
[1:13:42]
coffee." or you know we hear you but
[1:13:44]
when there are people here and there's a
[1:13:47]
packed house for instance for the DPW
[1:13:50]
yard or for the marijuana
[1:13:54]
you guys just do whatever you want and
[1:13:56]
not what the people want. So that is the
[1:13:59]
issue that I have all right
[1:14:03]
and uh let's see just keep going on
[1:14:06]
trust Mr. Castelins, last year around
[1:14:11]
April, you promoted your Panthers
[1:14:14]
Promise that you described as a
[1:14:17]
registered 501c3
[1:14:20]
uh nonprofit and you solicited money
[1:14:23]
from people to help out with that
[1:14:25]
nonprofit. Do you have an IRS
[1:14:28]
determination letter from that?
[1:14:34]
And that's it. I'll forfeit the rest of
[1:14:36]
my time for an answer to that question.
[1:14:43]
» Sure, Mr. Chair.
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» Yeah.
[1:14:45]
» Yeah. Um yeah, so I uh I started a
[1:14:47]
scholarship program through my business
[1:14:49]
uh at first to seek for a um nonprofit.
[1:14:53]
So I whatever you found and I'm pretty
[1:14:54]
sure it says on there uh soon to be
[1:14:56]
registered. We were uh working on that
[1:14:58]
and we actually registered.
[1:14:59]
» No, it definitely didn't say that. Um, I
[1:15:01]
gave out uh two scholarships from my
[1:15:04]
business to uh two high school graduates
[1:15:06]
from Rosa Park High School. Continue to
[1:15:08]
do it every semester and I'm doing it
[1:15:10]
through my business at this time until
[1:15:12]
we get around to actually doing it. We
[1:15:13]
never collected any donations uh because
[1:15:15]
we never finalized the registration, but
[1:15:17]
I have been paying that out of my
[1:15:18]
business as a contribution to to Roso
[1:15:21]
Park graduating seniors and I intend to
[1:15:23]
finish that at some point when I have
[1:15:24]
some time. But I do continue to make the
[1:15:26]
payments.
[1:15:26]
» Okay. Well, you advertised on Instagram,
[1:15:29]
Facebook, and YouTube that it is is a
[1:15:32]
registered 501c3 organization. I have
[1:15:35]
videos and posts. So, you're saying
[1:15:39]
that's not true?
[1:15:40]
» Correct.
[1:15:40]
» Okay. Thank you.
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Bill Cross at 412 Galloping Hill Road.
[1:15:57]
First, Andrew, I wanted to thank you for
[1:16:00]
all your help through the years. Anytime
[1:16:02]
I sent you an email or called you, you
[1:16:04]
you were right on the spot. I appreciate
[1:16:07]
it. Wish you the best wishes for your
[1:16:10]
next position.
[1:16:11]
» Thank you.
[1:16:11]
» Um, I understand the reason that you
[1:16:14]
gave for garbage containers.
[1:16:18]
However, I can put garbage out in a
[1:16:21]
container. If there's no top on it,
[1:16:23]
that's not going to do any good. The
[1:16:26]
raccoons, the rats, the possums, they're
[1:16:30]
still going to get to the garbage if
[1:16:32]
they want to. So, it makes no sense. All
[1:16:34]
you're going to do is have more than
[1:16:36]
half the town go out and buy garbage
[1:16:39]
cans and get Walmart and Home Depot
[1:16:41]
richer than they already are.
[1:16:45]
The next question I have is in the past
[1:16:50]
there's been a couple of times where
[1:16:51]
I've hit the time limit and have been
[1:16:54]
informed your time's up. Same with
[1:16:57]
George. He's been informed his time is
[1:16:59]
up. Yet a gentleman comes in who's not
[1:17:02]
even from the town and runs overtime
[1:17:05]
constantly
[1:17:07]
and his big thing at the last meeting
[1:17:09]
was let's get a be better chair. So he
[1:17:12]
starts moving furniture around. It's
[1:17:14]
disrespectful. Disrespectful to you.
[1:17:17]
Disrespectful to all of us sitting out
[1:17:19]
here watching.
[1:17:21]
That's all I got.
[1:17:34]
» Got four this time. Got four minutes.
[1:17:39]
» Probably not going to use them all.
[1:17:41]
Russell Holden. Again, not a Roseell
[1:17:43]
Park resident, owner of Downy's Average
[1:17:45]
Pub and Restaurant 17 Chest Street,
[1:17:47]
Roseell Park. So, I try to come to
[1:17:49]
meetings every once in a while. Um, I
[1:17:51]
stayed for this public portion because I
[1:17:53]
I had a couple thank yous that I haven't
[1:17:55]
gotten out in the past. Um,
[1:17:58]
about two months ago, we had our uh 7th
[1:18:02]
annual Rosel Park Police Department golf
[1:18:04]
outing. I just wanted to give a couple
[1:18:06]
thanks to uh Officer Thompson and
[1:18:09]
Officer Gaylord who helped me run it
[1:18:11]
this year. Every year I have a couple
[1:18:13]
volunteers that help us with it. Uh we
[1:18:15]
raised over I believe $15,000. Don't
[1:18:18]
quote me on it. I I don't know it
[1:18:20]
exactly. So, but it was somewhere in
[1:18:22]
that vicinity.
[1:18:24]
I guess I'll secondly I'll keep the uh
[1:18:26]
Andrew Casayas congratulation parade
[1:18:28]
going. Andrew on behalf of businesses in
[1:18:30]
town, you've always you've always been
[1:18:32]
there for us. you you've you've always
[1:18:34]
done the right thing. You've sat me down
[1:18:36]
and said, "No, you can't do this." And
[1:18:38]
I've said, "Andrew, but I've lived in
[1:18:40]
this town. I have a business here." And
[1:18:41]
you said to me, "That's great, but you
[1:18:43]
can't do that. You have to do it this
[1:18:45]
way. You have to do it that way. These
[1:18:47]
are the proper ways to do it. And I
[1:18:48]
appreciate you always doing that for me
[1:18:50]
and and you know, giving me the guidance
[1:18:52]
in town for to to get things done."
[1:18:55]
[snorts] On that point, I'm here to not
[1:18:58]
be last minute Russ as I always am. I
[1:19:01]
wanted to let mayor and council know
[1:19:03]
that next agenda meeting I'm going to
[1:19:06]
put forward my letter for our closure of
[1:19:10]
William Street. It's probably the 15th
[1:19:12]
time we've done it since we've opened.
[1:19:14]
It's our uh 13-year anniversary. Don't
[1:19:18]
quote me on that. This year we're
[1:19:21]
looking for local businesses in town
[1:19:24]
council come in, speak to us, understand
[1:19:27]
what we're doing, why we want to do it.
[1:19:29]
And this year, in honor of the 125th um
[1:19:32]
anniversary of our local fire
[1:19:34]
department, we're going to look to run a
[1:19:36]
50/50 with the Joseph Nan Association,
[1:19:39]
which is one of the uh oldest Irish
[1:19:41]
organizations in the state on behalf of
[1:19:45]
my uh uncle Greg Powers that passed
[1:19:47]
away, who is a longtime Rosal Park
[1:19:50]
resident and fireman. I know many of you
[1:19:52]
up there know him personally. Um, so
[1:19:55]
that 5050 that we're going to run at the
[1:19:58]
event as well as hopefully a little
[1:20:00]
while after that would benefit the Rosel
[1:20:03]
Park uh fire department in his name. So
[1:20:05]
I just wanted to let you guys know I
[1:20:06]
will be putting that letter in and
[1:20:08]
asking for approval. If you have any
[1:20:10]
questions or concerns, please come and
[1:20:13]
see me. Everybody knows where I am
[1:20:14]
hopefully. But that's pretty much all I
[1:20:17]
wanted to say. Appreciate it.
[1:20:33]
Carl Hoginson, 318 Hemlock Street,
[1:20:35]
Rosell Park, New Jersey. It feels good
[1:20:37]
to be on this side of the fence this
[1:20:39]
time. Uh, a couple quick things. Um,
[1:20:43]
[snorts] going back to the parking lot,
[1:20:45]
uh, as you know, I'm a retired police
[1:20:46]
officer from Rosal Park and back in the
[1:20:49]
days about 30 years ago, the state of
[1:20:51]
New Jersey gave me local municipalities
[1:20:53]
the right to for parking on municipal
[1:20:56]
streets and so forth and so on.
[1:20:59]
For years, we had parking spots 11t from
[1:21:02]
a crosswalk, so forth and so on. So,
[1:21:06]
this time when this when the burrow
[1:21:08]
redid Chester Street and everything,
[1:21:09]
they did it underneath title 39. Right.
[1:21:11]
So now you can't park 25 ft, so forth
[1:21:14]
and so on. Actually, when they did that,
[1:21:17]
you lost parking spots.
[1:21:20]
Okay, it's about 11 or 12 that I can
[1:21:23]
think of off the top of my head that
[1:21:24]
when I used to walk the beat, they were
[1:21:26]
there. Now they're not. You also know
[1:21:29]
that on the weekends, nights, I go out
[1:21:31]
collecting for my veterans, I go to
[1:21:33]
different municipalities, different
[1:21:34]
areas, and a lot of people I talk to is
[1:21:38]
the problem is parking. It always has
[1:21:40]
been and always will be. Okay. Uh you
[1:21:44]
have the uh we talked about the uh
[1:21:46]
marijuana places that are opening up.
[1:21:49]
The one that's right on Chestnut and
[1:21:50]
Westfield. If I want to go there,
[1:21:53]
there's technically no parking. Okay.
[1:21:55]
So, that lot I think would be a safety
[1:21:57]
factor for the people. But now, uh you
[1:22:01]
actually lost parking when you did on
[1:22:03]
under title 39, which is now legal,
[1:22:06]
which is fine. And uh last but not
[1:22:09]
least, uh I had the honor of many uh
[1:22:12]
eight, 10, 12 years ago
[1:22:15]
uh to hire him. Um there's not many
[1:22:18]
things I mean there are quite a few
[1:22:20]
things that I could say I was happy that
[1:22:22]
I did as mayor and one of the things was
[1:22:26]
uh Andrew. Uh he was my right-hand man.
[1:22:30]
Uh, yes, there is times that they should
[1:22:32]
call him mayor because he does um he I
[1:22:37]
would have given him more money as as
[1:22:39]
more like a babysitting type thing. Um,
[1:22:42]
he takes care of he needs to get done
[1:22:45]
what has to get done. He knows his
[1:22:47]
rules. He knows how to work with people.
[1:22:50]
He knows how to talk to people. So, I
[1:22:52]
was privileged and honored and Andrew,
[1:22:56]
uh, good luck going over to to Bayona
[1:22:58]
every morning on the turnpike, but
[1:23:01]
[laughter] I appreciate your time and
[1:23:02]
service in the in the communications
[1:23:04]
that we've had back and forth over the
[1:23:06]
last years. So, God bless.
[1:23:07]
» Thank you.
[1:23:13]
[applause]
[1:23:18]
» Seeing no one further. Oh.
[1:23:21]
» Oh, I'm sorry.
[1:23:22]
» You've done that to me almost every
[1:23:25]
meeting. You've done that to me.
[1:23:27]
» Um, that's why you should ask, is
[1:23:29]
anybody else want to speak? Simple
[1:23:31]
stuff, you know. Um,
[1:23:32]
» You are correct.
[1:23:34]
» To the one resident who's upset that I
[1:23:36]
gave
[1:23:37]
the people a first class chair and he
[1:23:40]
can't win over everyone. Um, to the
[1:23:43]
other resident who said, "Sweet, I'm in
[1:23:45]
a nice chair." You know, I guess we're
[1:23:47]
back to even, you know, you can't make
[1:23:49]
everybody happy in life, but, you know,
[1:23:51]
the more things that uh make the public
[1:23:53]
feel like an equal, I think, are
[1:23:55]
important. It's nice to be comfortable.
[1:23:57]
I'm shocked that one of that this chair
[1:24:00]
was sitting over there and not one
[1:24:02]
person thought to themselves, well,
[1:24:03]
maybe let's give the speaker a nice
[1:24:05]
chair, too. I truly am shocked by that
[1:24:08]
stuff, you know? Um, just sitting right
[1:24:11]
over there just waiting to be
[1:24:14]
comfortably sat in. Um,
[1:24:17]
it's little stuff like that. It's like
[1:24:19]
just can It's a disregard for the public
[1:24:23]
in my opinion. Have an extra chair.
[1:24:26]
Let's give the public the chair to sit
[1:24:28]
in.
[1:24:29]
It seems like a no-brainer. Um,
[1:24:33]
every town's a little different with the
[1:24:35]
way they run their meetings in terms of,
[1:24:37]
um, I noticed in Rosel Park we don't let
[1:24:40]
the public speak during the introduction
[1:24:43]
phase.
[1:24:44]
I think that's abominable. I think
[1:24:46]
that's the time that the public should
[1:24:48]
be giving input,
[1:24:50]
not when it's time to adopt it, when
[1:24:53]
we've already figured out how we're
[1:24:54]
going to move forward with it, you know,
[1:24:57]
because at that point, your decisions
[1:24:58]
are kind of pretty much made up, you
[1:25:01]
know. Um, if the public has an
[1:25:03]
opportunity to speak during the
[1:25:05]
introduction phase, I think it would be
[1:25:07]
great because then you could have the
[1:25:08]
two weeks to consider the things that
[1:25:10]
the public said and maybe it would feel
[1:25:13]
and actually be an impact that people
[1:25:15]
come out and show up, you know. Um, I
[1:25:18]
appreciate the two gentlemen back here
[1:25:21]
because I've been to four meetings and
[1:25:22]
they were both at three of them. I love
[1:25:24]
that. I love that residents take part.
[1:25:27]
Um, I agree with the speaker Jimmy on
[1:25:29]
these flock cameras. Uh, this isn't
[1:25:32]
good. This is just this is surveillance
[1:25:33]
state. We live in just live in a police
[1:25:36]
state. It's all it is. You know, it's
[1:25:40]
unconstitutional to be taking all of our
[1:25:42]
information like that and doing of
[1:25:44]
course the police. Of course, it was the
[1:25:46]
police's idea to do that. I mean, why
[1:25:50]
wouldn't it be? And who's it for? Who's
[1:25:52]
it for? Domestic
[1:25:54]
people, right? Just like Homeland
[1:25:57]
Security. Who's it for? It's for us.
[1:26:01]
It's for us. There's no reason to do
[1:26:03]
that. It really degrades what police
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work is supposed to be. It It's a It's a
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far cry from what it used to be going
[1:26:10]
doortodoor knocking and being able to
[1:26:13]
investigate things because now what's
[1:26:15]
happening with these systems is and
[1:26:18]
especially with the AI stuff, they're
[1:26:19]
like arresting people based off of um
[1:26:23]
these these things that'll say, "Oh,
[1:26:25]
it's 85% chance that it's this guy." and
[1:26:27]
they go arrest that guy and he spends
[1:26:29]
two months in jail, loses his job,
[1:26:33]
can't pay rent, all because of an error,
[1:26:36]
systematic error because we refuse to do
[1:26:39]
old school police work. So that's a
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disgrace.
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That's a disgrace. I am very much
[1:26:45]
interested in the what the resident
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George said about the 501c3
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because usually when residents speak in
[1:26:54]
that manner they looked like he was
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about to maybe show proof of what he was
[1:26:58]
talking about. So that interests me.
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That gives me the feeling that you're
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just lying
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just directly lying to the public.
[1:27:09]
No, no, I'm I'm still talking. But I
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would be I would be eager to want to
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answer that as well because if you are
[1:27:15]
stating that there is no record or no
[1:27:18]
post or whatever the gentleman said,
[1:27:20]
you're lying
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to all these people.
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You're lying.
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You're a liar is what that means.
[1:27:33]
If if so, you know, I make these videos,
[1:27:36]
we have a chance to highlight good work
[1:27:38]
and we have a highlight to get rid of
[1:27:40]
the people who lie to the public
[1:27:43]
and abuse their role in public service.
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» Mr. Mayor, may I?
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» Thank you, sir.
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» Thank you,
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» Councilman.
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» Yeah. Um, no. So, I announced uh last
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year that from my real estate business,
[1:27:56]
I would be doing a donation to a Roso
[1:27:58]
Park graduating senior of a $500 per
[1:28:01]
semester scholarship, total of $4,000.
[1:28:04]
Um, last year, I wanted to make sure I
[1:28:06]
got it done in time. So, when I started
[1:28:08]
advertising this, I said, "This is a
[1:28:10]
soon-to-be registered 501c3
[1:28:12]
organization." I never took any
[1:28:14]
donations. I put out a uh what's called
[1:28:16]
like a donation pledge like hey if
[1:28:17]
you're interested in donating to this
[1:28:18]
once we form it as a 501c3 register your
[1:28:21]
information and once we're formed we'll
[1:28:22]
reach out because of the timing of
[1:28:24]
everything I paid that first uh
[1:28:28]
scholarship from my own business account
[1:28:30]
out of my pocket um and this is the
[1:28:32]
second year I've done two graduating
[1:28:34]
seniors every check has been coming out
[1:28:36]
of my business account as a donation
[1:28:38]
from my myself um so I guess my the
[1:28:42]
point is like okay it's a soon to be
[1:28:44]
rich But but my question is what are I
[1:28:46]
mean you're highlighting that I'm
[1:28:47]
donating money and that's wrong or or
[1:28:50]
like lying. I I I understand the lie
[1:28:52]
would be the Well, the wrong thing would
[1:28:55]
be and what I would agree Yeah. Yeah.
[1:28:57]
What I would agree is if Well, hold on
[1:28:59]
one second. What I would agree would be
[1:29:01]
wrong is if I collected donations to a
[1:29:03]
organization that isn't registered. That
[1:29:05]
would be wrong. So it's no back and
[1:29:07]
forth. I'm just stating what it is.
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» So yeah, and I'm not lying. So
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» But he let you speak. Sure.
[1:29:13]
» Give him the same respect.
[1:29:15]
» I can show you the checks I've cut to
[1:29:17]
the graduating seniors. How is it that
[1:29:19]
if I make a donation from my business to
[1:29:21]
graduating seniors out of my money
[1:29:23]
personally to them, how is that a bad
[1:29:26]
thing?
[1:29:26]
» All right. So, yeah, that's what it is.
[1:29:31]
» Sure. That's all.
[1:29:32]
» Rage bait. Rage bait.
[1:29:35]
» Anybody else?
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» I'm going to do it.
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» Okay. The last time a clerk did this,
[1:29:41]
somebody got sued. [laughter]
[1:29:44]
» Did you research?
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» How much time you get? [laughter]
[1:30:00]
same grace as everyone else. And I know
[1:30:02]
the Bayon Council President's watching.
[1:30:04]
Hi, Melissa.
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» As long as you started out nice.
[1:30:07]
» We'll see. I got a lot of problems with
[1:30:09]
you people. Been here a while.
[1:30:11]
» You get more with sugar than salt.
[1:30:14]
» Andrew Casayas, uh, formerly 166 Berwin
[1:30:17]
Street, Rosal Park. Currently resident
[1:30:19]
of Planefield. Currently the clerk. Uh,
[1:30:22]
good evening everybody. Uh, I I I'm
[1:30:24]
doing this I I very much appreciate
[1:30:26]
everybody's comments. Um, I kind of
[1:30:29]
wanted to do this because this is where
[1:30:30]
I started. Um, uh, the fact the first
[1:30:34]
person that I saw when I ever came into
[1:30:35]
this room was former Councilman Jake
[1:30:38]
McGera who came over to me and said,
[1:30:40]
"Who are you and why are you here?" Um,
[1:30:43]
former councilman then and God bless
[1:30:45]
him, he's uh, he's since passed, but he
[1:30:46]
was the first person. And actually that
[1:30:48]
meeting I came here and I wrote down my
[1:30:50]
address because I couldn't I was so
[1:30:52]
nervous I couldn't remember it.
[1:30:54]
Um, so the the context of it's
[1:30:57]
intimidating. Uh, this seat is much
[1:30:59]
lower than you. I'm realizing this now.
[1:31:02]
Um, but I came to actually complain. Uh,
[1:31:05]
and I made a complaint that year because
[1:31:06]
the burrow didn't put the flags at half
[1:31:08]
staff for 9/11. Um, and what struck me
[1:31:12]
and kind of what kept me coming back is
[1:31:14]
the mayor at the time, Mayor Dior, I'll
[1:31:15]
give him credit, um, said that he was
[1:31:18]
wrong and it was an oversight. And every
[1:31:21]
council member got off the deis after
[1:31:22]
that meeting and apologized.
[1:31:25]
Um,
[1:31:26]
and that's incredible, right? It really
[1:31:28]
is an incredible thing, especially for a
[1:31:29]
young person who was nervous to say
[1:31:31]
their name. Um, it was a great thing.
[1:31:34]
Man, the clock goes fast when you're on
[1:31:35]
this side. Um, I want to say thank you
[1:31:38]
to Mayor Hoginson who, you know, it's
[1:31:40]
been already been said, uh, did the hard
[1:31:44]
right thing, not just because it was me
[1:31:45]
getting hired, but, uh, I know that it
[1:31:48]
was a hard thing to do for a new,
[1:31:50]
relatively new Democratic majority to
[1:31:52]
hire a former Republican councilman to
[1:31:55]
be the clerk. But my goal every day was
[1:31:57]
to prove whatever critics are out there
[1:31:58]
wrong. And that's what I take to every
[1:32:00]
role that I'm in and what I will take
[1:32:02]
when I go to Bayon because there will be
[1:32:04]
a lot of critics. But we will we will
[1:32:05]
work we'll work it, Melissa. We will
[1:32:07]
work it. Um and uh I want to thank all
[1:32:11]
the council members I've ever worked
[1:32:12]
for, including this group. Um it's been
[1:32:14]
an honor. Um I thought I brought a
[1:32:17]
little bit of a unique perspective
[1:32:19]
having been a council member. I tried to
[1:32:21]
impart that on all of you. Um now my
[1:32:23]
experience is not everybody's
[1:32:25]
experience, but I could tell you that uh
[1:32:27]
outside of this job that I've done the
[1:32:29]
last 10 years, being a council member
[1:32:31]
was tremendous. It's the best job I will
[1:32:34]
ever have had. Uh, and I truly believe
[1:32:36]
that as time goes on. Um, and then I
[1:32:39]
just want to say something about the
[1:32:41]
clerk's role. Um, it's something that's
[1:32:45]
very close to me. You know, out of
[1:32:47]
college I I went for the classes or
[1:32:49]
actually in college I went for the
[1:32:50]
classes. Uh, when I was a councilman
[1:32:52]
here, I went for the classes. I got
[1:32:53]
certified. Um, and there's statutory
[1:32:56]
duties of the clerk, right? There's
[1:32:58]
there's I think there's five. Um, but
[1:33:01]
one of the ones that's very interesting
[1:33:02]
is you're the keeper and the custodian
[1:33:03]
of the seal, right? And I view the seal
[1:33:09]
as kind of the keeper of the soul of the
[1:33:12]
town, right? Um, this is crazy because
[1:33:15]
I'm usually very sarcastic. Um, so it's
[1:33:17]
it's hard to be a little bit emotional,
[1:33:19]
but um I want to thank the town, right,
[1:33:22]
the people in Rosal Park for letting me
[1:33:25]
do this cuz I got to keep a piece of the
[1:33:28]
soul for all this time. Um,
[1:33:32]
and I thank you for letting me do that
[1:33:35]
cuz it's truly been an honor and a
[1:33:38]
privilege. And I did this in under four
[1:33:40]
minutes [laughter]
[1:33:42]
and I didn't cry. But uh, thank you.
[1:33:45]
Thank you all very much.
[1:33:48]
[applause]
[1:33:56]
[applause]
[1:34:03]
» All right, let's
[1:34:05]
» All right. No one I see see uh seeing no
[1:34:08]
one further, I have a motion to close
[1:34:11]
the public portion on agenda. Uh wow.
[1:34:15]
on uh agenda items only and uh
[1:34:18]
» No any on any subject any you got me
[1:34:21]
there's another
[1:34:22]
» Res you didn't [laughter] put that in
[1:34:23]
there right yeah
[1:34:25]
» Moved
[1:34:26]
» Second
[1:34:26]
» Second
[1:34:27]
» All in favor
[1:34:28]
» I
[1:34:28]
» I
[1:34:30]
» Uh there's no matter for close session
[1:34:34]
have a motion to adjurnn
[1:34:36]
so moved
[1:34:37]
» Second all in
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» Favor I I see August 20th