[0:14] It's spinning, so if you just want to go here. Yeah. All right. I'll call him. I mean, always the 12th,

[0:24] 20th, 20th, 26th, tell council meetings or if you would please say to make sure your cell phones

[0:30] on the side. The first order of business will have a pledge of allegiance and in lieu of

[0:36] an indication tonight I'm going to go here and have another moment of silence for Mr.

[0:40] Dresson's room and the new service here. So we'll stand in the pledge of allegiance.

[1:17] I'll begin the discussion.

[1:21] Mr. Duffin is a resolution in memorandum of Mr. Hissley.

[1:26] Would you like that I read it?

[1:31] Resolution of town council and council marriage.

[1:33] Whereas Michael Harris and Drist will face the circumstances

[1:36] of the town council member of the town council

[1:39] from 2023 until his passing in 2026.

[1:43] First fill in unexpired term on the council

[1:45] through special election in 2023

[1:47] and subsequently earning a conference of voters through the election in 2024.

[1:53] And whereas Michael Harrison-Briskel Carey's duties were detained in the

[1:56] multi-sound judgment and succumbing to improving the quality of life

[2:00] the residents in town have. And whereas before he serves the town,

[2:05] Michael Harrison-Briskel already served the nation in the United States Air Force,

[2:10] retiring with the rank of major after distinguished military careers

[2:15] as a master navigator, fly instructor, flight examiner,

[2:18] flight operations staff officer and quality manager,

[2:21] including flying air refueling missions supporting SR-71

[2:25] Blackburn and Concent's aircraft during the Vietnam War era.

[2:30] And whereas following his military service,

[2:32] Michael Briscoll has some community life

[2:34] dedication and excellence to these

[2:36] community and quality assurance matters

[2:38] with the flag division of course, company members,

[2:41] where you're in respected admiration and colleagues.

[2:43] And whereas, through his life, Michael Harrison-Driskel exemplified the values of public service, patriotism, kindness and generosity, approaching every responsibility with genuine concern for others.

[2:57] And whereas his public confidence, accomplishments, Michael Harrison-Driskel, who was known for his dedication to family, is beloved cats and dolls, the friendships of his neighbors and sharing warmth and humor freely with those all around him.

[3:11] Now, therefore, be resolved that the Amherstown Council,

[3:15] hereby, expresses its deepest sympathy and heartfelt condolences

[3:19] to the family of Michael Harrison visible and all who

[3:22] mourns his passing.

[3:23] As further as all of the Amherstown Council honors Michael

[3:27] Harrison, for his faith in the service of the town members,

[3:31] recognises many contributions to the community and expresses its profound

[3:35] gratitude for his wisdom and unwavering commitment to public service.

[3:39] Be it further resolved that Clerk of the Council of the Town of Amherst is here by the

[3:42] Director of the Resolution of the Family and Mike and Harrison Dristle as an enduring

[3:48] special counsel gratitude appreciation and respect that this resolution should be entered

[3:54] into the permanent middle of the Town of Amherst and that the citizens of Amherst be encouraged

[4:01] to remember his life while the service to the nation, his community and his fellow citizens.

[4:06] All these things in recognition of his lasting legacy as devoted poet servant, good neighbor

[4:12] and friend of the town members signed D-Wayne Double Mayer in the Dr. Dr. Counselor.

[4:21] But after this 12th day of August, did we choose to take a motion?

[4:25] I take a motion to it about the resolution.

[4:28] I'll make that motion.

[4:30] Motion?

[4:30] Do I second?

[4:31] Second.

[4:32] Ms. Wheeling?

[4:33] I'd like to say that it's very well written, most impressive at places, so it's standing here for the country, so I don't know if you can.

[4:44] Hello, yes?

[4:46] Hi.

[4:47] 4.00.

[4:57] I've seen the public here from chapter 20 and I'll put that in one of your views.

[5:01] I just took you forward and back.

[5:07] Yes, it's possible.

[5:08] We'll open the public hearing,

[5:12] please the screen.

[5:19] President, I mean, the public hearing is chapter 20 of it off and deep, because I close the phone.

[5:26] Request for street code that you can tell us how we do that.

[5:29] Do you all want to take action on the chapter 20?

[5:33] Yes.

[5:33] Changes.

[5:35] So, as a reminder, the council, when you discussed an offer, we'll be hit folks last.

[5:41] We had talked about changes to chapter 20 as well as possible changes to chapter 24.

[5:45] Chapter 20 is traffic and vehicles 24-7. Subsequently, I've heard from a majority of Councils that they're not looking to have any changes on 24 at this time, but these changes to Chapter 20 would remove criminal penalties for an awful little vehicles on private property, and it would also give the police department an option to address an awful little vehicles that are left on public right of way, which they currently do not have that power.

[6:12] So staff recommends adoption of this, you've had your public hearing and don't have anything further unless you have questions.

[6:19] Your questions?

[6:21] I have a motion.

[6:24] I'll make the motion to read out.

[6:26] That's where it is.

[6:27] Motion to do our second?

[6:29] Second.

[6:31] Mr. Martin?

[6:33] Mr. Martin?

[6:35] No way.

[6:36] I'm sorry.

[6:37] Do we get to your comment?

[6:38] What was it?

[6:40] Well, yeah, no, after the second you can be, it's been a second so you can come in.

[6:44] Okay, okay.

[6:47] I'm not happy with this. I will be building new. My reasons for that is because we don't we have an ordinance already in place with the homes.

[7:06] and the ordinance isn't being enforced

[7:09] it's currently on the books.

[7:11] I don't know why we're going to implement a new ordinance

[7:15] when we can't take care of the ordinance ordinance.

[7:19] So that's my comment.

[7:22] All right.

[7:23] There's so much.

[7:24] How do you know?

[7:25] Yes.

[7:25] Hi.

[7:26] Mr. Paul.

[7:27] Hi.

[7:28] Hi.

[7:28] You know.

[7:29] No.

[7:45] We are looking for these same street closures at the event this plan for October 23rd so we're at the

[8:14] All right, next we move on to the appointment of Femius Gibbs and his interim councilman,

[8:22] Council member, as you know, we have probably discussed this for the past 45 days to appoint

[8:29] somebody to take this seat to the special election and we had an old talk in the special

[8:40] So, everybody's still bringing that up like most of them.

[8:43] I was not in a agreement.

[8:44] Okay.

[8:45] That passed.

[8:45] You worked out that.

[8:47] And, may I call it now?

[8:49] Well, no, I need a second point.

[8:51] Thank you.

[8:52] Any motion here?

[8:53] No, we're both here.

[8:54] I'll make the motion to the point.

[8:55] Excuse me.

[8:56] Okay.

[8:56] All right.

[8:58] Motion starts now with this question.

[9:00] Well, I was concerned about the way this particular meeting was handled.

[9:04] There was just respect to anyone.

[9:06] I do have a question to staff if I may ask, was this ever advertised on Facebook or the

[9:13] tell website that this need, this workshop is going to take place?

[9:17] We do have to have notice and we did have the normal notice that we're required to have

[9:22] for the call meeting.

[9:23] Yes, ma'am.

[9:24] Where was that?

[9:25] So we put it on our website.

[9:26] We have a notice box out front and we do both of those things when you have a call meeting.

[9:30] It was on the tell website?

[9:32] Yes, ma'am.

[9:33] Okay.

[9:34] On Facebook?

[9:34] Not a Facebook on the town website.

[9:38] OK, well, just this is a comment, not directed toward anyone.

[9:43] But I think so many people look at Facebook.

[9:45] And we have so many notices and meetings.

[9:49] We have YouTube recordings.

[9:52] I'm sorry that the community did not have access

[9:55] to it on Facebook.

[9:56] They didn't have access to it when the judge ruled

[9:59] that we were not doing the right thing.

[10:01] that he would disagree with the ruling that came out

[10:04] from the election.

[10:05] So I noticed that there was something on Facebook

[10:07] right away for that notice.

[10:10] But I was not interested in voting for her

[10:13] because I believe the seat should have been opened

[10:17] to the public for a chance to apply.

[10:23] And I felt like it was rushed through.

[10:26] And as you know, the judge did not

[10:27] I like the fact that we were waiting until 2027 to have this vote for the seat.

[10:36] We were able to get it done so quickly.

[10:39] I feel we should have opened it up for the community to allow our citizens to consider us

[10:45] taking away the opinions or the concerns or maybe the will of the community.

[10:52] Thank you.

[10:52] Well, I just noticed that we've got three months, three months, three months, because there's

[10:56] something like that.

[10:57] But point about that.

[10:58] Thank you.

[11:00] I will start when you're in the table.

[11:02] No.

[11:03] All right.

[11:05] All right.

[11:06] 3-0-0.

[11:09] All right.

[11:10] Citizens comments?

[11:11] No one is silent to speak.

[11:14] consent of them.

[11:16] So we can vote on these in a block.

[11:17] We choose to.

[11:19] We've got 10 counts of minutes in the packet.

[11:22] I'll say I have a report, I have a report, and I do have one question, I also do an

[11:33] I guess you need a motion to set the first.

[11:36] Second, your doctor is a block.

[11:38] I don't know, motion.

[11:39] I don't know.

[11:41] Second.

[11:42] Second.

[11:44] Mr. Sunder.

[11:45] Hi.

[11:46] Sorry, I need to discuss it.

[11:48] One has a paddy, one question.

[11:50] And Mr. Sunder was trying to explain it to me.

[11:53] She's been quite here with Mr. Sunder.

[11:55] Man's feel awful.

[11:56] What's that all about?

[11:58] Yes.

[11:59] Yes.

[11:59] Remember how we didn't get the little one.

[12:01] Oh, yeah.

[12:08] So the state was trying to get them to pay taxes on our purchases, but they should be

[12:15] exempt.

[12:16] So until they got all of that sort of that instead of passing the tax on dies and making

[12:20] us pay it, they just held the invoices until it passed, and then they sent us all the invoices

[12:24] is that the same time?

[12:25] Yes.

[12:26] Any other questions?

[12:29] Mr. Sirman.

[12:33] All right.

[12:35] All right.

[12:36] Discussing items.

[12:37] Is there a drop of drop-end?

[12:39] Yes, sir.

[12:40] This is the first of two items that we will be bringing to you that are part of our compliance

[12:44] for a order of drop permit.

[12:46] And we are required to have a drop management plan submitted to DEQ by sometime in September.

[12:53] I think September 10.

[12:54] and then we will also have an operations and maintenance plan that we will be submitting to DEQ.

[13:00] A pass is so long to counsel for information.

[13:03] We're happy to take any comments on it if there's a request to change this.

[13:06] We don't really need counsel action because this will just go forward to DEQ,

[13:11] but we wanted to pass the longings information and please let me know if you have any comments on it.

[13:16] All right, detail plan. I'll read through it.

[13:18] It's very complicated.

[13:21] Any questions to Mr. Governor?

[13:22] All right.

[13:26] Request approval for a website available in the update.

[13:29] Accessible yet to get started.

[13:30] How are you going to go down that journey?

[13:32] No.

[13:33] It doesn't require a bed unless council feels just for the end.

[13:38] All right.

[13:39] Who's going to take the big shot?

[13:41] I guess I will.

[13:43] In your package, you have a pretty detailed report on the fact

[13:46] that we have to bring our website into compliance

[13:50] for ADA accessibility, maybe what I could ask first is if anybody has any questions about

[14:00] the report, and then I can elaborate. I have pages and pages of compages of, you know,

[14:07] research that I've done on it. I spoke to a girl in Denton at her, she's a clerk there,

[14:14] and asked her if she had, they had complied that they brought

[14:20] there some compliance.

[14:22] And she said not yet, because she understood that it didn't have

[14:24] to be until 2028.

[14:27] So looked into that, and federal, yes, that's true.

[14:33] The DOJ did extend small towns to 2028, but there's this little

[14:41] thing in Virginia that they have that

[14:44] because they didn't get word from the DOJ and Tom, they could not change the

[14:50] Virginia code.

[14:53] Yes.

[14:54] Stay long.

[14:55] Yes.

[14:56] So there's that.

[14:58] Now.

[15:00] Depending on who you talk to, they'll tell you it's okay to wait until 2028, but other people are saying, this is something that you should have been doing for six years already, so go on and get it done. So, that's where we are with that.

[15:18] I recommend that we use DOC access, which is a part of Civic Plus, which is where all

[15:29] website sets and not the website, yeah the code, and use them at least for a year.

[15:40] And I know Mr. Senator Murphy, you had a question about how it sits on the website.

[15:46] You're correct.

[15:47] It does just sit there.

[15:49] And if you, well, I haven't gotten the complete answer from Doc's access yet.

[15:55] His name is Rich.

[15:56] I asked him the question today.

[15:57] get that to me whether it we retain any of it or not or if we lose it all and then you

[16:04] start all over some other way.

[16:08] So there's that question to answer. I think you were probably

[16:14] right but I still think that it would make sense for us to go on and do it. You still have

[16:19] to do it. You still have to do it. And the thing is is we don't have the staff to do all

[16:25] any of these clients side accessibility services that they have, their widgets, their plugins, and they find everything that's wrong, which you can just ask AI.

[16:40] Look at our website, tell me what's wrong with it, and they'll tell you and they'll, you know, give you all these things to fix.

[16:46] So you have to go in and fix all the documents, all the pictures, everything.

[16:52] And it's, I

[16:56] don't have enough hours in the day.

[16:59] So, so anyway, that's where I stand with it.

[17:03] And, you know, it didn't have to be done until April of 2027.

[17:09] But my thought is, you've got to do it.

[17:12] And it'll come out of this year's budget.

[17:15] It's this correct, Sarah.

[17:17] And then next year, continue on with it.

[17:20] and or see where you stand after that.

[17:24] Oh, we pay this kind of money every year.

[17:26] You pay $3,000.

[17:28] I love it so much.

[17:30] That was the basis of my question.

[17:33] Right.

[17:33] The one time sign up fee is $1,500.

[17:37] For the first year, it's another $3,457.

[17:43] So $4,957 total for this year.

[17:48] then next year, what they've given us for 2028 would be 2,000, 630.

[17:58] And we have to be paying that every year afterwards from what it sounds like.

[18:02] It will be. It will be a recurring cost.

[18:05] Did we confirm that that's 3630 every year from then on?

[18:11] No, it gives about 5% every year.

[18:14] slide. It's an up left, I believe.

[18:17] So we're chasing for a hundred.

[18:20] That was the total pause.

[18:21] Oh, okay.

[18:22] Yeah, that's the one time.

[18:23] The only initial set.

[18:24] Right.

[18:27] And I actually watched it, you know, I was in a Zoom meeting with them.

[18:31] And I watched it all as he was, you know, changing one of our documents.

[18:36] And I mean, you have to be able to access, you have to sign up to access accessibility

[18:44] it's not just like if you look at it you're not going to see it okay it's

[18:49] anybody that is hearing impaired side-in-payer can't recalibrate but mobile advice as

[18:55] well I'm sorry it'll convert the web page to mobile friendly format as well yes

[19:01] yeah yeah I mean yeah it covers all of that so it's doing that in real time it

[19:07] doesn't in real time service will still be stuck like immediately when I put in

[19:11] a document. It does it right away. These other ones that are client-sided, where it would

[19:21] keep our documents accessible forever, but we've got to do it or we can add on to whoever

[19:31] we get it from to do it for us, which is probably going to be about $15,000, not this $3,000

[19:39] understand and they don't do it immediately. They picked your documents and it

[19:43] backed to you. Then you put it in. They estimated over $100,000, right? Yeah, they

[19:49] really inflated my hourly rate, I believe. If they don't work, if someone were to

[19:54] come in and change everything permanently so that we don't need the service, they

[19:59] estimate that we cost over that. I don't know how they came up with that figure. I

[20:05] I don't know where they got their hourly rate to do that.

[20:08] I really don't know.

[20:10] Yeah, I think that was probably just, you know,

[20:13] have we checked with any of your companies

[20:16] to see if there's anyone out there

[20:17] that has a reasonable cost for permanently changing?

[20:21] Everything I've looked at, this is reasonable

[20:23] of for permanently changing.

[20:24] So then we don't need to change so much.

[20:26] I have not, there is a company that's not even a company.

[20:31] And there again, they don't fix it for us to where it is.

[20:40] You have to do an add-on, combines

[20:48] automated scanning.

[20:50] This is equal web, and if you want their whole package, you have to add-on, manage compliance

[20:59] services there you know when I just did a Google search and said how much is

[21:05] this company it was like $15,000 I mean it's not cheap no nothing in life is

[21:12] cheap anymore and I might have recurring elements to it as well yes I mean I

[21:17] can look into that but I don't think it's gonna be as friendly as stock

[21:26] accessor. I understand your your thought about it. If you could pay once and get it fixed.

[21:32] Yeah well it but yeah but that won't be a one-time fix because that's going to be an ongoing

[21:37] thing with that company or that service where you still send your document to them. You don't

[21:43] put it on the website like we do automatically now. You have to send the document to them. They look

[21:49] at it. They fix it and send it back. You know that's just an added cost. So it sounds like this is

[21:55] It's just a cost of doing business with new accessibility requirements.

[21:59] Exactly.

[22:00] Well, it's very important.

[22:03] Sure, it is.

[22:04] I mean, you are all right now and let's just roll with it.

[22:06] It's fresh in your mind because you've got to deal with it.

[22:09] Your reverse is waiting and you know the year and having to go back and revisit all of it.

[22:13] Yeah.

[22:13] But that's not the only one.

[22:15] Do you want to put that in the form of a motion?

[22:17] I'll make that the motion.

[22:19] We'll go again with it.

[22:20] I'll second.

[22:21] I'll second the motion to adopt this.

[22:23] I have a motion and a second to have any discussion, any further questions?

[22:27] Yes.

[22:28] Thank you.

[22:29] Thank you.

[22:30] All right.

[22:31] Yes.

[22:33] Four words zero zero.

[22:37] Next we have, we're going to need to set up a public hearing for a business friendly of events.

[22:42] I have one thing to do, one point forty two, and pack it.

[22:46] Thank you Mr. Rice Mayor.

[22:48] So what I've done is I've taken what Council had given some feedback on the planning commission.

[22:56] We are largely looking at going with what the planning commission had recommended.

[23:00] There are a few tweaks that are being made and there's a couple of other items that I'm

[23:06] going to actually change even for next month.

[23:08] But again, these are really going to stick with what the planning commission was recommending.

[23:12] So, we're still going to have, for example, a limitation on outdoor display, but when

[23:18] we were altering the outdoor display language, we got rid of the part that essentially

[23:22] said, for example, that, you know, cars on a lot, that doesn't count for drought, so

[23:28] we're going to display.

[23:29] So, we're going to tighten up that language so our existing ordinance has that, and we're

[23:33] going to put the two together.

[23:34] So, I do have a couple more tweaks to make to it, but just for clarity sake, staff recommends

[23:39] going ahead and having the public hearing on this so that the compiled document is put before everyone all at once.

[23:49] Mr. Vice Mayor, I make a motion that we adopt or that we hold the public hearing.

[23:56] Senator, second.

[23:57] Second.

[23:58] Second.

[23:59] Second.

[24:00] Any discussion?

[24:02] Any discussion?

[24:04] Vote, does the President over herestate?

[24:05] Hi.

[24:06] Mr. Warner.

[24:08] Hi.

[24:09] Mr. Warner.

[24:09] Hi.

[24:10] 4-0-0.

[24:12] All right.

[24:13] Do you have an included recording?

[24:16] The matter is from Stavg.

[24:18] Mr. Judge.

[24:19] Well, first thing I wanted to do as I wanted to recognize Mr. Joe Kumpop.

[24:24] But he is here tonight in his new role as our maintenance foreman.

[24:29] We, when Mr. Thompson retired, we made the decision internally, Mr. Buddy Smith served

[24:34] admirably in the role of maintenance foreman for about a year.

[24:37] The goal with that, from a staff perspective, was to really do some knowledge straight

[24:42] off between those two work groups.

[24:45] And so Mr. Smith was kind of able to go over to maintenance and kind of link those departments

[24:49] back up together a little bit better and have good communication.

[24:52] and Mr. Cundith is now taking the permanent position.

[24:55] And Mr. Smith is back in the plant.

[24:58] So I'm happy for Mr. Smith having done that for us for the last year.

[25:03] And I think that the two groups are communicating more and better than they were.

[25:07] And I think the integration with our software systems is better than it was

[25:12] because of that action.

[25:14] And I'm really excited to see Mr. Cundith in this role.

[25:17] He's already making some really wonderful changes.

[25:20] He's sprucing up some things around town and taking ideas from his crew and he's also made

[25:26] the town hall ladies really happy because he has monthly schedule and he's bringing them

[25:30] so we're very glad to have them as well.

[25:33] Well, I have to say he's already read the letters.

[25:35] Thank you, but if you got to it.

[25:40] All right.

[25:41] This is Mark.

[25:43] And now we were talking about all the way but it won't be long before the Christmas

[25:47] for rights coming out then we're already getting some entry calls.

[25:54] Really?

[25:55] Wow, solvents.

[25:58] Great thing this year.

[26:01] Mr. Cummins, Mr. Smith.

[26:06] All right.

[26:08] Any more citizens comments?

[26:10] No comments.

[26:12] All right.

[26:15] I have no.

[26:21] All right.

[26:22] Participate in town council.

[26:24] The gentleman's from next month.

[26:26] Is it you?

[26:27] You have that.

[26:28] The order can keep out any questions.

[26:30] What about you?

[26:31] OK.

[26:32] Being no further business, I'm going to close the meeting at.

[26:37] Record time.

[26:38] I'll do the motion.

[26:40] Mr. Vice Mayor, I make a motion.

[26:41] Most of you turn into a second? Second. Second.

[26:45] All in favor? All right.

[26:48] Done. Thank you.

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