[0:00] That didn't even be in part of

[0:11] the period. The Sacramento's property on Britain Avenue. Was that, was he notified about the debris that's all on the sidewalk there on shared inside?

[0:26] On, yeah, that's, that's not Sacramento. Oh, who was it? I'm sorry. That's Torbidge as usual. Sorry about that. I went about.

[0:44] he told them that he's gonna have to get a dumpster and he said he was but I was

[0:49] up there today and I could see them no he didn't so he keeps adding to it plus the

[0:56] porch steps are coming off the back all right

[1:01] if he chooses to reopen does the

[1:05] place need to be reinspected?

[1:08] It should be.

[1:09] Because like the roof has been leaking for well over a year,

[1:15] and rumor has that there's black gold up there.

[1:20] I think we need to get all the agencies from the LCB

[1:25] to the county, since they're serving food in there, which

[1:30] will probably have more power against them

[1:33] from opening up than I would, you know, if they take you with liquor

[1:37] license and there's a availability to serve food. He sleeps on it outside the

[1:44] board. Yeah, he's sleeping in there. He's there every single day.

[1:47] Whether he answers the door or not, he's there. Yeah, we, I mean, we

[1:51] discussed this apparently, the owner has some issues that he's dealing

[1:58] with. Um, so I don't know, you know, it's definitely about me. Does he respond to citations?

[2:10] No.

[2:13] Do you have his phone number? Do you have his phone number? No. Do you want his phone number?

[2:18] Do you want his phone number? No, it's just was a shot. I need to try to talk to him.

[2:25] But you know, from what I understand with the state and condition he's in, it's probably not

[2:30] I'm going to do what he's doing.

[2:33] All right.

[2:34] Excuse me.

[2:35] Can you call the health department about the food handling issue?

[2:38] Make sure he has proper authorization to do that.

[2:42] He's not open as of now, but rumor has that he's planning to be reopened.

[2:48] I tell you I really don't see him.

[2:50] He might have said he was going to open, but.

[2:53] When that car went through there,

[2:55] I don't think they still fix that wall in there.

[2:57] and any money that he gets goes to other things other than that boy.

[3:03] Okay. What about the 10 graphics building? Has he been cited?

[3:08] No, but I will do that. I have that one and I have a few others that are going down this week.

[3:17] Okay. What about the owner of the rooster? Has he been cited? Yes he has. Okay. Another question.

[3:24] the property by the market on for it now that is owned by the ban club or something?

[3:31] Yes. Okay, the cars that are parked there. What what solution can we come up with? They're not

[3:39] up to they're not uninspected.

[3:44] Well, you'd have to notify the owner of the property which we don't

[3:48] an owner of it. So they can order so the car is be notified to remove them. Yeah, they probably belong

[3:56] to bizzana. I don't know why he hasn't just acquired that property and you know do the things

[4:03] he said he was going to do. But if you can't find the owner, how do you require the property?

[4:09] Through vacant property. Okay. There's back catches on it so he could go through vacant property.

[4:20] All right, that's all I got.

[4:26] Michael, you got anything for days?

[4:28] Yeah, days, um, junior grads.

[4:34] I dumped somebody off there.

[4:36] And I was driving around.

[4:37] There's cars everywhere.

[4:39] There's a dumpster full of TVs.

[4:43] There's a dumpster full of trash.

[4:44] And there's like, cars, cars.

[4:46] In the fire lane on, on the grass.

[4:48] There's anything we can do about that?

[4:50] Or contact the label of that?

[4:51] Probably.

[4:51] I mean, it's a fire, or a fire truck can't get there,

[4:56] ambulance can't get there.

[4:57] I mean, I mean, I think everybody in the building

[5:00] wants to have a car, and I know there's a dumpster

[5:05] with a whole bunch of TV, I think people pump

[5:07] in a TV sauce, so.

[5:09] We tell the county police all about that.

[5:11] I mean, I mean, I've got to do something about that.

[5:12] I make that very good road for tracing.

[5:15] Yeah, that's county property and the county police.

[5:18] I ain't never got bad.

[5:25] We need to call out how many calls we need to call out how we look at the man about

[5:30] them.

[5:31] I'll try to reach out to somebody I know from the county and we'll go from there.

[5:39] John, it might be a prober to have the chief contact, the county police.

[5:43] That might be the fastest way to get something done.

[5:48] All right, go.

[5:50] Do you have anything for day?

[5:52] No, I'm just going to see it on $1,400 or next $2,000.

[5:58] It's pretty well translated.

[6:07] Yeah, $1,400.

[6:09] Here's the next $2,000.

[6:14] I got it.

[6:17] One more thing.

[6:18] The property beside Megan Sepsy.

[6:21] That one grand be there.

[6:24] Is there, I mean, there is so much stuff piled up there.

[6:28] And that I, I was told was a rental that he rents that out.

[6:32] No, no. The owner of that property is deceased. The person that's living in there is his nephew

[6:42] or somehow related to him. He was living in the house two doors up and then that got all the occupants

[6:55] in there got arrested for various things and yeah because even when Timmy was here I don't

[7:04] know who he is I don't know you know he's not living in the house that he was in and I guess

[7:10] he's using that for storage or something but the owner of the property is deceased so I don't know

[7:15] how to get mentioned. There's another case of somebody's living somewhere and we don't know who's

[7:24] to see. So are they just squatting there? Or I mean, probably. I mean, yeah. I mean,

[7:34] so how do we correct this problem?

[7:38] John, maybe you can weigh in on that. I know what

[7:42] we can do with squatters, but they have their, you know, from what I understand, their

[7:46] squatters, right? I mean, right now there's so much stuff around that house that if there

[7:51] the fire looks like there's paint and all types of chemicals and I mean it's

[7:56] ridiculous. Right. Is it uninhabitable? The structure itself, you know the outside

[8:05] he just has a bunch of debris and furniture and you know but I don't know

[8:11] what his name is. I mean I finally tracked down the guy up on Wolf Avenue. Who's

[8:18] the owner of Dave, I'm sorry. John, I don't know what's

[8:22] up in my head, but the owner's. Oh, no, I mean, you know, but

[8:24] we could look and see. Yeah. Do something with him, I mean,

[8:32] but is there either utilities and everything in the house?

[8:36] I'm really not sure, John. Okay. Um, you know, maybe I'll talk

[8:43] you tomorrow and figure out something. If it's uninhabitable, we can do more or put some

[8:53] pressure on the owner. Well, like I said, the owner is deceased. Now, this is a family

[9:00] member. It's just, well, you don't know whether there's going to stay dope or not, probably

[9:06] not. No. All right. Well, if you talk, I'll talk to you tomorrow. We can find out if there's

[9:13] in the state, that would make it a little easier.

[9:15] Right.

[9:16] All right.

[9:17] Yep.

[9:18] Thank you.

[9:20] Thank you, Dave.

[9:21] Cindy, do you have anything for Dave?

[9:23] And you're not?

[9:27] Please stop.

[9:28] Do you have anything for Dave?

[9:31] Dave and I talked during the week about a house.

[9:35] I hope you were able to cite the dude.

[9:37] And the other thing that I'm wondering just

[9:41] through the conversation is, is there

[9:43] any way we can establish some sort

[9:44] relationship with someone to have a place where we can either have tell our residents to put their

[9:51] tires or drop their tires off or and television. I mean we didn't have it so they could drop their

[9:57] televisions off at the borough building but the problem is if we don't establish some sort of

[10:02] relationship then we're going to continue to see tires and TVs on the street.

[10:07] Well, we, I mean, it was, you know, I think with the, we know we don't have no electronic

[10:15] pickup and there's no building material and there's no tires.

[10:22] I don't know how you stop that since we don't have the electronic dumpster and as far as

[10:31] the cars go to Jerome could probably help you more than that.

[10:36] I don't know what they do with the cars that they collect off of the street.

[10:39] I'm just saying what do other burrows do?

[10:42] Like what are the best practices as some of the other burrows and how,

[10:45] who are they talking to?

[10:46] So, you know, they're getting these things, building relationships with places that

[10:51] take this stuff.

[10:52] Hey, Lisa, it's Jerome.

[10:54] About the tires, um,

[10:58] when you open that up, when we told them before they could

[11:01] bring them down, people were bringing truckloads. It leads to the burrow paying anywhere, depending on

[11:08] the size of the tire, two to eight dollars a tire to dispose of.

[11:14] And you can imagine how much that

[11:15] adds up. And then the electronics was the same thing. We said guidelines, nobody followed them,

[11:22] and people were bringing truckloads to TVs from other towns, and we're paying the dispose of those as

[11:27] Well, I know it's sort of a catch 22 kind of thing, but somebody has solved this problem.

[11:35] It might be a nice, you know, project for, I don't know, folks on the planning commission

[11:40] or somebody kind of go out and see what other places do and maybe come up with something creative

[11:46] because the problem is we're going to continue to see tires and TVs on the street.

[11:53] Lisa, no, Lisa, I did talk to Monroe Hillboro to find out how they handled their situation.

[11:58] They have a private contract that has an arrangement to collect electronics and he doesn't

[12:03] either.

[12:04] Once a month, he either goes to the house and picks it up through an appointment process

[12:09] or he schedules a once a month drop off at one of the municipal lots in Monroeville, however,

[12:16] there's a fee to the property owner for appliances and it's based on the size of the TV and it

[12:23] looked like something that I didn't think our residents would react positively to. So I didn't

[12:28] pursue it any further. I'll check to see if there are other options out there though.

[12:32] Okay, I mean, at least it'll give them an out or rather than to have them just sitting. I mean,

[12:36] people literally think the garbage people are going to pick it up and the stuff is sitting out,

[12:40] you know, for weeks or at least will we give them an option to say, hey,

[12:43] We have a way to dispose of them, but it's going to cost you, but maybe they would be willing to pay that.

[12:48] And maybe I'll just like a few phone calls and see, you know, whatever place to do.

[12:56] I'll pull that information on that contract and give it to you.

[13:00] And you take a look at it and see if you like the idea.

[13:02] The problem with the electronics drop off here was that it went viral over the internet that we had an electronics drop off.

[13:08] and everybody was coming in, everybody's, they were loaded,

[13:11] they were picking them up everywhere at 10 dollars,

[13:13] a clip and dropping them off,

[13:15] and when we were paying for the disposal,

[13:16] they really got out of hand.

[13:17] My question is, with the drop-off that we had, right?

[13:21] Let's reverse that, kind of like what you just said.

[13:24] So skip the drop-off, if we didn't get a contract

[13:26] with those people and then have our residents call

[13:29] or send you an email, say, have a TV,

[13:32] and then they arrange to get it to the people that,

[13:35] You know what I mean? Make it a private thing versus everybody and their mother get dropped off their TV. I believe that was one of the options. I'll pull that information and show you.

[13:45] Okay. Thank you.

[13:46] Lisa, I mean, I live in Swissville. We get a newsletter that comes out monthly and it states in there. No tires, no TVs, no building material. I guess what happens every trash.

[14:07] I don't want to take too much time up with it, but I'm saying this is a very easy problem

[14:18] to solve when other burrows are addressing it.

[14:21] I know it's a money thing.

[14:22] I mean, I understand Monroeville has like a $32 million budget so maybe they can do

[14:26] a little groovy or stuff than we can, but I really think we can come up with a creative

[14:30] way to get this done, or at least give people the option, or, you know, I don't know, you

[14:37] know, I just feel like it's a way there's something we can do to address it. I'm gonna

[14:41] look into it. And I, and I know the, if the newsletter comes out in Swissville, those

[14:46] people that drop that stuff off are the exception and not the rule, I would think, because they

[14:51] should have teeth coming behind what they're saying, you know, getting off the street within

[14:59] in so much time.

[15:00] You're getting fine or something. Now, there's a lot of problems. There's a lot of problems over this way too. As far as that other house we talked about, that has sold.

[15:14] Yeah, it's sold to the guy who lives in Virginia, who has recently sold to somebody in New Jersey, which is not odd. I had a house on Hawkins Avenue that I took the gentleman to court.

[15:30] He sold it. I took the next guy to court. He sold it and the new owner is in Japan.

[15:39] So here's my question. Where, where does, you know where this cat is in New Jersey?

[15:46] No, I just, I just looked at the application today.

[15:51] And he purchased it privately from this guy.

[15:55] I don't know how he purchased it, whatever. I just got the occupancy permit and I know that there's a raisin repair order on it and I mean it's not trust me. It's not unusual that they get a raisin repair and they start selling them.

[16:09] Okay, so you got an occupancy permit that's going to be denied. Clearly because they have debris in the back. They have washers and dryers and appliances back there.

[16:19] there's rats in there. The door is wide open. It's probably somewhere where

[16:23] someone could go in and just get high or do a whole lot of other things. So I'm

[16:28] just saying the first cat we checked out lives in a $300,000 home in Virginia.

[16:33] This cat and he sold the two in New Jersey. We'll find out his status. But we can

[16:40] do some things right now with him. He does. He you got an occupancy permit. So

[16:49] phone number, all kinds of stuff on there, right?

[16:51] Right.

[16:52] Okay, then he's gonna have to come and do some things

[16:57] or you're gonna just start citing him out the gate.

[16:59] But at least, I mean, I can, and I will,

[17:05] and I'll let him know that there's a, you know,

[17:06] raisin repair order on the house,

[17:08] but he gets his raisin repair order.

[17:11] He could turn around and sell it again.

[17:13] Like I said, the house on Hawkins,

[17:14] the new owner is living in Japan.

[17:19] So we can't stop them from selling the property.

[17:23] Well, I think we'll deal with that when we get to it.

[17:25] But right now, we got a name and address, a phone number.

[17:28] And somebody trying to be groovy in this place is torn out.

[17:33] This place is ridiculously torn out.

[17:36] I understand.

[17:37] So it was the other one.

[17:38] It was collapsing.

[17:39] And it sold three times.

[17:40] John, Brad, this is done.

[17:42] We have days explaining a problem

[17:45] we're having with out of state owners of property.

[17:48] He's finding it very difficult to enforce the code when they're out of state owners.

[17:58] The

[18:06] only thing we could do would be to try to sell the property to obtain some judgment

[18:12] against them for a violation and then sell the property, but that's expensive.

[18:17] So, what I could look at is whether there's something we can do that we can prevent the

[18:29] sale of a property if it's subject to citations that are unresolved at that point, maybe

[18:41] that have to negotiate with Dave to fix the problems if they wanted to get rid of it.

[18:47] But, you know, the person in Japan, you know, he may not be a real person, but I know there

[18:56] was a problem in the past, how much it is now, it's harder to say where, you know, people

[19:06] from other areas, they see a hospital sale, and they go on the county website, which has

[19:16] decent and somebody's willing to sell it to them for you know a few thousand dollars

[19:23] they think they're getting the deal but you know some of it is people take an advantage

[19:28] by dumping it you know the property others are the present owners essentially the victim

[19:36] or fraud so the only thing I can think of that at the moment that would stop that is it

[19:45] And I'll look to see if we can prevent the sale if it's if there's an unresolved citation.

[19:53] Okay.

[19:54] Along with that will help, but that'd be something we could do.

[19:58] Along those lines on this specific property.

[20:01] We know we have a new owner.

[20:02] Dave, he's applied for an occupancy permit.

[20:05] Yeah.

[20:06] I mean, tonight, obviously, you're going to notify him that it's a razor repair order.

[20:10] Right.

[20:11] A bunch of debris around the house. Am I correct, Lisa?

[20:13] It's disgusting. Yep tons of it. The process, Dave, I think John correct me. You should send this fella a letter saying there's debris around the house. He has five days to get it cleaned up. If he doesn't do it, we're going to do it and charge him.

[20:27] Is that is that appropriate, John?

[20:29] Now we can, while we can leave the property for sure.

[20:32] And that's what we would have to sue them, but we could lean the property.

[20:38] But the first step is to send that letter.

[20:40] I'm letting him know there's debris and he's got it corrected within a certain period.

[20:43] Yeah.

[20:44] I mean, that'll work sometimes.

[20:46] Some of these people will respond to it.

[20:48] I don't know how many what the percentage will be, but it's worth a letter anyway.

[20:53] That's for sure.

[20:54] All right, Dave.

[20:54] You got it.

[20:55] Yeah.

[20:57] Those are good options.

[20:59] I'm just also wondering.

[21:00] and John, if you don't mind checking,

[21:02] I can do the same.

[21:04] If there's been any new ordinances or resolutions

[21:07] that have been drafted and other burrows

[21:09] that deal with this issue,

[21:11] would that give us a little bit more movement?

[21:14] And I know there's been a lot that they're coming up

[21:17] with blight because blight is a big deal,

[21:20] but there may be something else we can do

[21:22] that we just haven't thought of.

[21:24] Other people may have it out there

[21:25] or maybe we can just put our minds together

[21:27] and come up with a nice groovy resolution

[21:29] or ordinance that you know says some of what Doug said and some of what you know that

[21:40] meets our needs with respect to this blight and how people or we should start leaning

[21:45] properties.

[21:46] The problem with this property is I believe the taxes are paid on this property.

[21:50] Well that's actually one that they might make some sense to lean.

[21:54] The trouble with a lot of them is they're so they haven't paid the taxes.

[21:58] So putting another lean on it doesn't really make much different.

[22:02] It doesn't help us and doesn't really hurt them.

[22:07] I'll look around and see if I can find it.

[22:10] But you know, the problem is the problem is in ordinances.

[22:17] The problem is in forcement and you know, Dave's one guy.

[22:27] And it's a huge problem, and you know, when you're getting involved with these things,

[22:33] you know, if he has the magistrate's office for a day, that's a big deal.

[22:38] So, I mean, it's...

[22:40] Well, I know he's one guy.

[22:41] At least of the problems, to be honest with you.

[22:44] I know he's one guy, but, you know, any big project, you know, the way you eat an elephant is one bite at a time.

[22:50] I understand. I understand. I just don't want to, you know, I don't see a

[22:56] board meeting today. Some magic solution. Oh, no, I understand how it goes. I don't

[23:02] ever, I'm not asking to be a magician. I'm just really asking them to look around.

[23:07] I'll look around and see what I could find. And use some of the stuff Doug just said. I

[23:11] think those, some of the things he offered are good. Yeah, that's definitely good.

[23:15] All right. Cool. Thank you.

[23:19] All right. Thank you, John. Thank you, Lisa. Like I said, we don't getting back to the regular workshop meeting. Again, our chief of police is not here. And neither is our mayor.

[23:37] Doug already went over the agenda.

[23:40] Communications.

[23:42] I just have one question for Doug. There's a on wolf avenue the steps going down to ravine there was a telephone poll that was taken out because I guess a car had directed into it and it was supposed to be replaced and it never has been and I mean those steps get really dark if people do definitely use them.

[24:04] What can we do to fix that problem?

[24:07] It's funny you mentioned that Jerome just was reminding me this week that we spent so

[24:13] money tearing the tree down because Luke came light said they couldn't replace the

[24:16] light unless we took the tree down we took the tree down the weather got cold so he's

[24:19] going to get on the phone and try to track down the appropriate person person to get that

[24:24] light up.

[24:24] All right, thank you.

[24:26] You're welcome.

[24:27] I got one more question.

[24:28] I don't know.

[24:29] It probably would be better for the chief but maybe you all have heard who is this AVR gang

[24:34] And why are they tagging everywhere?

[24:38] Does anybody know who's tagging?

[24:40] They're writing it everywhere.

[24:43] I saw it too.

[24:45] It's here, but more right and Swiss way.

[24:47] It's everywhere.

[24:49] And I just didn't know if anyone, you know, has heard it.

[24:52] Yeah, it's everywhere.

[24:54] It's all in here.

[24:54] I don't know if I should have asked for it, too.

[24:56] Yeah, it's everywhere.

[24:58] All over the city.

[25:02] OK.

[25:03] Let me keep looking at it.

[25:06] Let me just, I'm not sure if it's correct,

[25:08] but I thought someone told me this gentleman, whoever he is, he sells t-shirts and trinkets with

[25:15] that logo on online. I think you can look it up. I think someone told me that.

[25:30] I have some

[25:38] people who had questions for Dave in the audience.

[25:42] I do believe they would stick around for the comment period he did not be okay cool. Sorry about that

[25:54] So with that, I like to open up the April meeting of North Bradley Council

[25:58] to

[26:01] entertain us with roll call.

[26:10] Got done mute councilmember Cepsi. Councilmember Dovernich.

[26:14] Councilmember Vargo.

[26:19] Councilmember Cobbs.

[26:24] Councilmember Franklin.

[26:28] Councilmember

[26:29] Reston. Councilmember Parker. Yeah. President the Hoseki.

[26:33] President, please don't,

[26:38] if you have any head covering, please remove it.

[26:49] Let's see.

[27:00] Anything

[27:08] to report from your committee?

[27:20] You update with Joe State about the playground.

[27:25] The basketball court can take this week.

[27:27] Hopefully, it's up.

[27:31] Thank you to the kids, that's all.

[27:35] I'm going to chose to talk about the offenses being from four foot to six foot.

[27:39] Yeah, yeah, for the safety of kids, we're trying to move the fence to 4.6, like Doug said, cost $35.50 to bring it up to feet.

[27:52] I think it's the two-feetest. It's good because the wall behind the cockpit and also the fence onto the railroad tracks to the track tracks.

[28:03] And also I am having a meeting with Norfolk and hopefully we can get a wall put in back there.

[28:12] So, okay, the one. I'm going to call the trust to the point.

[28:16] That's a real good. Thank you.

[28:20] I'm going to talk to you in the last Tuesday to be

[28:25] Pittsburgh's, Dr. President of their Council,

[28:28] gave more listed proposals.

[28:30] What we would give them, what we would charge them,

[28:34] what we could do for them.

[28:38] As it's getting me the call list of all the calls

[28:42] that we've been through over the last three years there,

[28:47] that would take it up to her tomorrow and hopefully last

[28:52] though was in a week to ten days of their decision.

[28:57] So we'll find out about that.

[29:03] Thank you, Mike.

[29:04] We were lucky we had a postponement last week, so you and

[29:07] the chief together there meeting got the dice.

[29:11] Yep.

[29:12] Does anybody else have anything to report from their committee?

[29:15] questions

[29:20] to any of the committee chairs.

[29:27] Thank you. We cannot go to a mayor's report because once again the mayor is not here. So does anybody have any questions on any of the communication?

[29:43] You have a question about Lynn Heverley's request to be considered for a seat that has not yet been vacated.

[29:51] It was

[29:58] submitted because...

[30:00] There was rumors that Mr. Roland was going to resign from council, and as you can see on the agenda this evening, we go even. I guess we have to accept his resignation or make them stay on. So anyone after this evening would be able to apply for that position. Right, but you asked if I had a question on that and I'm questioning how does she know? We don't

[30:29] move on rumors. It hasn't even if Chris said he was going to leave whatever until his resignation has

[30:37] been in and accepted, we shouldn't even be put. It looks improprietous for us to even list

[30:43] that she was privy to know that this vacancy was open and going to be moved on today. It looks like

[30:50] the violent assumption law was violated. That's what it looks like to be moved on today.

[30:57] Let me explain Lisa I she sent the letter in when I get letters like that they should

[31:02] be addressed to council it's just a point of information that's all it is just to keep

[31:06] you abreast of of communications I get like that.

[31:11] Yeah I appreciate you keeping us up it just I don't even know how she knows this stuff

[31:14] and how would she even know to even put it in for it because like I said you put in for

[31:18] a vacancy it's not even vacant yet we don't even have to truly we could vote not to accept

[31:23] I mean, not that we wouldn't, but I'm saying we actually could.

[31:27] So I'm just confused at the process, and I don't want us to get blackened in the eye and

[31:32] look like we're an improprietous group of folks when we're trying to do things with transparency

[31:38] and above board.

[31:39] And we should be given other people in second ward the opportunity to apply for that position.

[31:45] And I believe my kids say they will have the opportunity.

[31:51] Okay.

[31:52] Thanks.

[31:52] Nothing's being voted on tonight.

[31:58] Follow-up question on that.

[32:02] Did we not appoint a vacancy committee or a board?

[32:09] Not too long.

[32:09] We have the vacancy appointee for vacancies in the railroad.

[32:16] And it's a fellow from first board who ran for council four years ago.

[32:26] I'm going to come to the shore.

[32:30] Jim Shore.

[32:32] Vic, the vacancy board applies whenever council has to make a selection and there's a tie

[32:37] vote.

[32:37] Am I correct, John?

[32:39] That's when the vacancy board additional member comes in to break a vote.

[32:43] John, back, correct?

[32:44] Yeah.

[32:45] Now they only would be involved if council didn't act or couldn't act.

[32:53] but then you have 30 days to fill the

[32:58] seat within 30 days? Yes. Well you have to fill it

[33:11] or you have to fill it or if it goes to the vacant people. So we accept this resignation

[33:18] and then we would have to fill the position by the end of this month.

[33:23] No, that's the next meeting.

[33:26] Okay.

[33:27] I mean, the next meeting will be well within 30 days, so that's when you would fill it.

[33:34] I mean, accepting the resignation is essentially a formality.

[33:39] I mean, you can't stop somebody from resigning, from counsel, I mean, you know.

[33:45] Okay.

[33:45] and invite us what we said tonight, Doug, our next meeting is scheduled for I believe it's May 18th with us, it's which is election day, so we're going to have to reschedule that meeting to the following

[34:05] that would be the 25th, John. That's correct. And by that time, the election will be over, the May election will be over.

[34:14] And then, just a price. And then at that time, we could look and see the results of the election.

[34:25] Um,

[34:27] one just clarifying point for, um, Mr. Backrack, um, Council can fail to accept his, his, his, his resignation.

[34:36] And it says, if we do neglect to accept the resignation, then it's deemed acceptable after 45 days. So it's, we actually could do that. I'm not saying that we would. I'm just saying it happened. And that's when the vacancy board gets involved.

[34:54] I'm reading that straight from the title to the burrow code.

[35:03] John, when do you want to meet next month, the 25th?

[35:06] Yes, I think that would be good.

[35:08] Like we did this month, we pushed the back out.

[35:11] We did too much before, maybe we could do it a week ahead,

[35:16] but because of the bills and everything,

[35:19] we always pushed it the following two things.

[35:22] To me, I have no problem if we go to the second Tuesday

[35:26] for a quarter to two states election day.

[35:31] All right, I'll advertise it for the 26th.

[35:35] Council and agreement for that.

[35:37] Yes.

[35:47] Yes.

[35:55] Is there any other comments or questions

[35:58] on the communication?

[36:03] Not hearing any.

[36:09] That's month's speed.

[36:12] The bill comes with an email, March 16th, 2001.

[36:15] Part of proof and death print.

[36:17] We have a motion by Preston, seconded by Sepsy on the minutes.

[36:22] It's all in favor by question on the motion.

[36:27] I just want to clarify on how we're recording these minutes

[36:32] and how they're being uploaded in case someone needs

[36:35] to access because I'm getting an audio.

[36:39] I requested a meeting recording and I got an audio

[36:45] and there was a video that was taken.

[36:47] And so I'm just asking, you know, not specifically

[36:50] about the minutes but how we're handling

[36:53] the recording with respect to zoom.

[37:00] We are recording the audio and those are being posted on the website.

[37:08] We haven't attempted to post the video of the council meetings up to this point.

[37:13] I think we're probably...

[37:14] We have to try and figure out how victim purpose...

[37:18] We'll look into it. There's a process that I'm not familiar with,

[37:21] but I'll go to the higher powers around me and see you figure it out.

[37:24] Okay, but we do have the video right?

[37:29] Yeah, we recorded it so it's okay there. Cool. All right. My question is satisfied. Thank you.

[37:52] Council effective 331.1 is that. Second. We have a motion by Preston seconded by Parker. Any question on emotions?

[38:29] I think our standard donation was like $300 a month for 300 dollars, for the North grad of Hamptons.

[38:38] Second.

[38:40] We have a motion by sexy second of my parker for a $300 donation to the North grad of Hamptons,

[38:52] the eyes out.

[40:05] I'm sorry. I didn't get the name.

[40:06] James Milton, 7-0-1, Wolfman Street.

[40:31] It would be nice for somebody.

[40:35] In your room, are you

[40:45] getting nice weather in the crew back in?

[40:47] We'll get a guy out there to weld these pipe back in.

[40:52] The second thing is the tax.

[40:55] Who does the taxes?

[40:57] The lady that does the taxes?

[40:58] Yes, sir.

[40:59] Well, we didn't get nothing in the matter.

[41:02] In July.

[41:03] And we got $400 for our taxes because we didn't get nothing.

[41:07] What catches are you referring to the borough for the school?

[41:13] It was $2,000 or whatever, $2,000.

[41:16] That more likely is to school this year.

[41:18] But we didn't get nothing.

[41:20] And my wife talked to her.

[41:22] She said that we were the only person to set that to me.

[41:27] So I don't think we were the problem of the mail in July.

[41:31] So I'm going to choose as an extra $400.

[41:35] So we would have to talk to the school instructor.

[41:40] Right.

[41:40] right there. We feel we feel for a school district and I have the pleasure of working

[41:47] that out for the Algane County Treasurer and when a property owner does not

[41:53] receive their tax bill it is to respond to the responsibility of the property

[41:58] owner to know when their taxes are due and they should go and ask if they don't

[42:06] it, they're feeling them out. But they were sentenced about the lane and the lane on the

[42:11] one in Texas, but I'm just saying. Well, that year

[42:17] was, that year was any delay. Yes,

[42:22] there was. Yes, there was. The school district, the school district.

[42:29] And last year was a

[42:30] horrific year for everybody and everything. But I don't want it. I only want to give you

[42:35] I don't know, because people are not going to say it.

[42:38] I wanted to want them to.

[42:40] Well, we collect for the school district

[42:43] and actually be a school district decision

[42:46] whether everybody they would be willing to wait

[42:49] the penalty and interest by that bill.

[42:53] So who sends out the bill for the school district?

[43:08] Mr. Mildon, let me jump in here.

[43:10] The tax collector is an independent elected official.

[43:13] She doesn't work for the borough.

[43:15] She works for herself.

[43:17] She bills for the borough and she bills for the school district. I think what

[43:22] Councilman Parker said is correct. You need to talk to the tax collector and

[43:25] also the school district about the penalty see if they'll wave that for you. It's

[43:29] not really a local it's not a borough of North Braddock issue. I hope that helps but

[43:37] But again, dumbing her, I'm sure a bill was just, that's why she got the,

[43:47] the computer was, the computer was the record keeping, but I'm sure a tax bill like that was printed and generated and put in the U.S. Postal Service.

[44:00] It was delivered, if it wasn't, maybe there's a post office problem.

[44:05] You don't want to

[44:09] check with her to make sure that the mailing address is your address

[44:13] that it's going to?

[44:15] Talk to her.

[44:15] Talk to someone else.

[44:16] Talk to her.

[44:17] She checked to that.

[44:18] This is the first year that didn't happen.

[44:19] I've been here.

[44:20] I've been here, but I've been used.

[44:22] Never have a problem until this year.

[44:24] Until last year.

[44:26] What they told us is this year.

[44:32] It's a four

[44:40] -hour afternoon for the government's last year.

[44:42] You didn't pay at all last year.

[44:47] And when you didn't get the bill, did you think about us being where you're building that?

[44:57] Yeah.

[44:59] Um...

[45:21] John. John, they had some computer issues with their taxes. It was, uh,

[45:30] He needs to talk to them.

[45:32] Yeah, it's not a borrow mission with the school district,

[45:37] even though we're the issuing agent,

[45:39] but at the urban manager said that should be discussed

[45:42] with the school district.

[45:44] You, Mr. Milton, you might also want to find out who your

[45:46] school director is that represents your district

[45:48] and get in touch with him.

[45:51] All right.

[45:58] The Bobby's place.

[46:02] So I need to go with two school districts.

[46:06] Well, I was starting out with our tax collector explained the situation to her.

[46:11] He told me I have her to guide you who to contact in the school district.

[46:16] I don't know where we need to talk to her.

[46:19] And I was going to talk to her, but we want to know him.

[46:22] I'll get you a number you can call.

[46:26] I'll talk to my brother.

[46:28] Give you a call.

[46:29] He told my brother.

[46:30] And he talked to you about that.

[46:31] He's on school.

[46:32] So I can see.

[46:38] if you get a chance, give me a call, we'll walk you through it, it'll be all right.

[46:44] It's Lisa.

[46:46] You

[46:50] have anything else, sir?

[46:57] Is

[47:01] there anybody else in the audience that would like to address council for any of you?

[47:08] Yes, me.

[47:09] any one need a child's for for Dave. My address is 567 Stokes Avenue. I'm in the third

[47:17] ward. It's a few things. There's a house at 573 Stokes Avenue that recently is starting

[47:25] to fall down. And we need to have somebody come and take a look at that because it's not

[47:31] safe. If the building collapsed, someone can seriously get hurt. And that's a 573 Stokes

[47:38] happening. Okay. Okay.

[47:44] Also at 438 Stokes Avenue, which is candy corner from the fire department.

[47:48] There's a lot of garbage and debris being thrown on that porch. For my understanding,

[47:53] the co-guards recently moved out because there was a death with, I guess, the husband in the place.

[47:59] And it does not seem like anybody has taken care of it. And before it becomes an I sort of like some

[48:04] of the other properties something needs to be done to call attention to that because I know

[48:09] they do have children that are not far from the area that should be taking care of it selling it

[48:15] do whatever they need to do. Got it. Okay and the last one I have to get the address for you

[48:21] day and get it but it's on Coleman and Price. It's the first house that sits on that corner. They

[48:28] throw garbage across the street. There's garbage all in the yard. There's garbage in between their

[48:34] house and the house next to them which is rat can cause rats I mean all kind of germs and it's

[48:42] just a dangerous situation and I feel like them or the landlord needs to be cited for them to

[48:48] clean that mess up and stop throwing that garbage across the hill on coma and put it in the correct

[48:56] products in order for it to be picked up by the garbage man and if they have bulk they need to be

[49:01] calling to have that ball picked up.

[49:04] All right, got them ball.

[49:06] That's all I have.

[49:08] What?

[49:09] Thank you.

[49:10] You're welcome.

[49:16] Yeah, this is, this is Edith Obeda.

[49:20] 1527 Wolf Avenue.

[49:23] I have a couple of things.

[49:25] I read recently in the trip.

[49:29] There's another lawsuit that North

[49:31] both radic is involved in regarding the police.

[49:34] I understand that you can't comment on it,

[49:37] but can you tell us how many active lawsuits

[49:40] there are against the burrow?

[49:48] I can tell you there's the right now, that would be two.

[49:52] Okay, all right.

[49:54] And then my next topic is a request for the people

[50:04] who submit letters for Chris Rollins vacancy, can they be asked to be at the meeting and say something

[50:17] during the meeting before the vote is taken, just so that residents, since residents don't have an

[50:24] opportunity to actually vote them into the seat, it would be good to know who they are and a little

[50:30] about who they are and kind of what their position is because we don't get to read the letters,

[50:36] so it would be awesome for them to be able to speak to the public.

[50:44] Chris Rome seated no different than it was for a mayor or any other opening

[50:49] in the borough for elected position. Anyone who had interest could submit a letter

[50:57] and council will make a determination from the people that have submitted letters.

[51:04] Yeah, I understand what the process is. I'm just asking, if in addition to the council making the decision, is it possible for the people who are expressing the interest to actually be present?

[51:17] meeting. For instance, I have no idea who Lynn Everly is or what her position is. I understand. I don't have any input on it, but at the very least I could make a public comment regarding her interest or anyone's interest in the seat.

[51:46] Thank you.

[51:48] Thank you.

[51:49] Is there anybody else in the audience that would like to address Council?

[51:56] Yes, Steve Littak, I'm at off 1530 Wolf Avenue.

[52:01] Just the go on the Edus Ward there.

[52:03] Are we going to be advertising this council position?

[52:06] Because if people aren't tuned into this meeting,

[52:09] then otherwise, how are they going to know?

[52:13] All baking seats are advertised, correct?

[52:15] no that that's not correct because we appointed a mayor this year which was

[52:22] never advertised. I'm sure that it was, wasn't it? I don't believe it was, no. Does

[52:29] anybody on council confirm it was advertised or what publication or the

[52:33] data publication? It was not on the website.

[52:38] Go on I don't recall if it was

[52:40] advertised or not but certainly I get the direction from council you want it

[52:44] advertise in the future okay so we will advertise this position before the next

[52:54] meeting then for Roland seat okay

[53:01] and then I see on the agenda towing contract

[53:05] and we advertise for the towing services how do we know this is the best service

[53:10] we could go with

[53:13] no we consider this a professional service so we didn't

[53:16] advertise it it's a we're asking for a continuation of the existing service

[53:23] Well, I would ask council that they should advertise it. They should be doing what other communities are doing. West homestead just advertised the same thing in the valley mirror in the recent months.

[53:33] I mean, why are we wearing our options? Why are we making the smartest business decisions? How do we know all more toeings the best decision if you're doing no research?

[53:45] I mean, this is just the status quo we know how all more is, so we're not going to research.

[53:51] I mean, that's not how a business runs. That's not how a public government runs.

[53:56] So I would expect counsel if you would table that tonight,

[54:00] and you should be advertising for towing services to do it the right way.

[54:06] And then my final thought is on the the paving ordinance. I've shared this with Doug.

[54:11] I have the exact wording from West Homestead Barrow.

[54:15] I recently shared with the West Nufflin mayor

[54:18] what he has in place.

[54:20] And I could share probably all of this

[54:22] with the council or anybody I need to,

[54:24] but the paving ordinance flat out says

[54:27] any street opening, curb the curb,

[54:30] doesn't matter the stipulations, doesn't matter the size.

[54:34] I mean, it's just flat out.

[54:35] You're gonna hold the utility companies responsible.

[54:38] You're going to save money to the borough budget and you're not, you know, just like none of this. Oh, we're going to pay half of it because Wilkinsburg Penn joins giving us a great deal.

[54:49] I mean, if you have the ordinance in place, you're paying nothing. Wilkinsburg Penn joins, give him you the best deal then because you're giving them nothing and they're going to pay Hawkins Avenue for no cost to the borough budget.

[55:01] So I would just say again I could share it you guys said you I think Joe Derser said he would research or council could research. I mean I would say flat out maybe two of the towns I know.

[55:13] West Smith and West Homestead.

[55:16] These things are in place.

[55:19] That's all I have. Thank you.

[55:23] All right, thank you, Steve.

[55:31] With five here and

[55:39] we've got a motion by Zeppce,

[55:41] second up by

[55:46] the post.

[55:56] I'll make the motion that we inferred

[55:57] is that it's put in a whole time

[55:59] to perpetrate public labor in 559, 21.

[56:03] Second.

[56:07] We have a motion for William Ferguson

[56:12] by Bruce Finns, second up by Dovernitch.

[56:15] A roll call.

[56:22] Council member Zeppce.

[56:24] Council member Dovernitch.

[56:27] Council Member Vargo. Council Member Cove.

[56:33] Council Member Franklin. Yes. Council Member

[56:36] Reston. Council Member Parker. Yes. Council Member President Fahouski. Yes.

[56:57] We have

[57:15] a

[57:15] second position to feel, John. I know. I'm waiting from I can't make a motion. I'll

[57:20] make the motion they can't submit an employee to the full-time promotion in public

[57:28] We've got a motion by

[57:29] Preston and seconded by Parker

[57:31] on Cameron Smith

[57:33] question to

[57:34] motion for Brian

[57:35] Kelly.

[57:36] We have

[57:42] two motions

[57:43] for Cameron Smith

[57:47] and a motion for Brian

[57:49] Kelly.

[57:50] Is

[58:06] that second?

[58:07] John, do we need a second on that?

[58:09] Second on that.

[58:10] Okay.

[58:14] Question before you vote.

[58:16] on this. I thought after interviewing the candidates that we made our

[58:24] recommendations to Jerome and Jerome would recommend the two people that he

[58:30] wanted or recommended to us.

[58:36] Was that correct?

[58:39] That meeting my recollection was that council made their recommendations to Jerome and Jerome didn't have any

[58:49] disagreement with what was recommended to him and I have that meeting feeling that Jerome is leaving out the council or council to make the decision but he did not dispute the two people.

[59:08] before people that was interviewed, the council made your recommendation that night.

[59:14] John, this is Doug.

[59:16] Jerome conveyed to me that he would be fine with any of the four.

[59:20] All right.

[59:21] Did you hear that?

[59:23] Yeah.

[59:24] Mm-hmm.

[59:28] Okay.

[59:29] Thank you.

[59:30] So since we have two people, Doug, if we would do a roll call vote and everybody would vote for their choice,

[59:39] would that be acceptable start

[59:47] with Mr. Smith are we ready to vote ready council

[59:55] Councilmember Cepci, Councilmember Dovernich.

[1:00:00] Council Member Vargo. Council Member Cobbs.

[1:00:10] Council Member Franklin. Council Member

[1:00:24] I have five

[1:00:34] yeses and one three no's

[1:00:45] council concurres with my totals yes

[1:00:58] the second position on the public works

[1:01:14] I think they're going to need some more time.

[1:01:16] Yes, I'm going to listen.

[1:01:17] I'm so sorry.

[1:01:21] John, I can't hear you.

[1:01:22] I said, did they have their physical and drug test?

[1:01:26] That's what the question is from the core.

[1:01:32] Say that again, John, I didn't catch it.

[1:01:34] I said, did they have their physical and drug test?

[1:01:38] No, that's to be done. That's why I selected that starting date that I did.

[1:01:42] Okay.

[1:01:43] Okay. Jerome, does that answer your question?

[1:01:49] Yes.

[1:01:49] So, no.

[1:01:50] So, Cameron Smith and William Ferguson will be sent

[1:01:53] for their physical drug test, correct, Doug?

[1:01:56] Yes, John.

[1:02:10] The room Johnson, last floor, Pennsylvania,

[1:02:13] Jeffrey Russo, about all of our PDPA,

[1:02:15] our point is temporary part time officers.

[1:02:18] We fit the 427-21 at the current recommendation

[1:02:21] of the safety public safety committee.

[1:02:24] Second.

[1:02:25] We have a motion by Governing, second by Parker,

[1:02:38] Council Member Sepsy, Council Member Dovernich,

[1:02:42] Council Member Vargo, Council Member Cobb's, Council Member Franklin, Council Member Preston,

[1:02:52] Council Member Parker, Council Member Prison Vahouski, excuse me.

[1:02:57] Yes.

[1:02:58] Yes.

[1:02:58] It's your name.

[1:03:00] Yes.

[1:03:01] I

[1:03:10] said that the resolution adopted in the joint multi municipal conference plan is approved.

[1:03:17] We have a motion by Governing, seconded by Sepsy, all in favor of resolution.

[1:03:25] the

[1:03:36] 20.1 SBC or the agreement to provide a street sweep and service in the

[1:03:43] borough from 4.1 to 10.1 for $85 an hour is approved.

[1:03:56] Motion by set, see second by arrest and question yes okay do we have a plan to

[1:04:04] go with the street sweeping because I can't see paying paying $85 an hour for

[1:04:09] people that sweep half or like one fourth of the street because we don't have clear areas

[1:04:17] for them to sweep. When I was a kid, they used to have signs on the poles that said street

[1:04:21] sweeping. Wednesday or Tuesday and Wednesday and on one side you parked on the street and

[1:04:26] the next day you parked on the other side and they were able to sweep effectively. So unless

[1:04:31] we have a plan to go with this, we're throwing good money after bad.

[1:04:37] We have to do this. No, we do not have to have a street sweep. It has been. Yes, we do.

[1:04:44] John, John, the consent order that we signed requires us to sweep the streets to remove

[1:04:51] particular matter from the sores. That's the whole purpose of the street sweep.

[1:04:56] Correct. That's correct. And we have discussed this every year when it comes to this about

[1:05:04] I put an upside and every other thing.

[1:05:08] Well, I don't see where there's a problem.

[1:05:10] You put up every burrow does it.

[1:05:12] You put the sign up that says every first and third Monday

[1:05:17] of the month, we street sweep,

[1:05:20] so don't park your cars and guess what?

[1:05:22] $10 tickets, give a little bit of money to the burrow

[1:05:25] if somebody is parked on the street.

[1:05:28] That sounds harsh, but if we don't clean up,

[1:05:31] the sewer lines get back to them,

[1:05:32] play thousands of dollars to fix that. So, what's the hard part about putting signs up?

[1:05:40] I could show you how to do it and get it out there. And so we can get a good effect

[1:05:46] this week.

[1:05:47] Lisa, we can do that. It requires an ordinance. John can prepare an ordinance for the next

[1:05:52] meeting. We can identify the streets, the times, et cetera, et cetera. But I don't think

[1:05:56] I think that should preclude you from a doc from signing the agreement with still Valley Cog.

[1:06:03] We'll have that in place and ready to go.

[1:06:06] Okay, I have another question.

[1:06:09] I think it should be $25.

[1:06:14] Is still, do we bid this job?

[1:06:18] No, no, that's, that's a service provided by that council of governments.

[1:06:22] it's been available. Otherwise otherwise we'd have to go out and hire a private contractor.

[1:06:26] Okay. Okay. Thank you.

[1:06:41] John, we have a motion and a second to accept the agreement and then we need a second

[1:06:48] motion to have the solicitor prepare an ordinance.

[1:06:52] All right. Well, we need a second on the first motion to accept.

[1:06:57] I have Sepsy and Sepsy and Breaston and Parker second and right?

[1:07:03] No, not Breaston. Breaston. All right. All in favor of accepting the service. Say aye.

[1:07:11] Aye.

[1:07:14] Now we need a motion to adopt an ordinance.

[1:07:19] I so move.

[1:07:22] We have a motion by

[1:07:27] ordinance for street sweeping.

[1:07:30] No, to have the solicitor prepare an ordinance.

[1:07:32] Now, have the solicitor prepare an ordinance for our next month?

[1:07:37] Me.

[1:07:38] I'd suggest a $25 fund.

[1:07:42] John, could you see what other boroughs charge we could have

[1:07:48] adjusted after the meeting?

[1:07:52] Yes.

[1:07:59] $25 is actually, turns out, because when they,

[1:08:02] if it goes down to the magistrate, they got on cost and probably

[1:08:06] enough being $100.

[1:08:08] Most boroughs charge, what am I saying most,

[1:08:11] but our Jason boroughs charge $10.

[1:08:12] dollars.

[1:08:16] We can fight over that next month. Thank you, God. All in favor, draw it up toward

[1:08:23] its person.

[1:08:34] We're requesting act 1.2 demolition funds from Alignini County in the mile 140,000.

[1:08:40] We've all been set in structure to improve.

[1:08:44] We've got a motion by Preston, second and by 17. All in favor.

[1:08:50] question can you please read the seven structures where they're located

[1:08:56] there

[1:09:02] with me senior agenda package I didn't mind it had been it

[1:09:21] followed the

[1:09:23] second ordinance or resolution on this here here in the first word it was 712

[1:09:27] wolf 1524 grand you second word it was 1025 cliff 1121 Franklin and 70810

[1:09:35] second. Third Ward was five, five, one for ice and two, two, two, two, two, two,

[1:09:40] Hawkins. Thank

[1:09:43] you.

[1:09:48] Any other point

[1:10:07] services in the

[1:10:09] parliament, 1231.25 is approved. We've got motion by

[1:10:14] co-printed second by set. Question.

[1:10:20] Yeah, I really want to know why this

[1:10:23] wasn't put up for bid.

[1:10:26] I just think that when we have opportunity to open it

[1:10:30] up to show transparency and to show that we're looking for the best price, we should do it.

[1:11:03] I'm saying we need to open up a bid to see, so first of all, we should never send a

[1:11:10] message to anyone to say that they have carte blanche with us.

[1:11:17] We should always be open.

[1:11:19] I mean, there may be a towing company in North Braddock that just started.

[1:11:22] We want to give them a chance.

[1:11:23] I mean we really need to open this up and take a bit even if you end up with all more

[1:11:28] fine but it really builds trust and integrity in our residents and us and we're here to

[1:11:35] serve them.

[1:11:36] So I think we need to open this up and table it until we do so.

[1:11:41] I'd like to say is I haven't heard one complaint from the police department.

[1:11:47] My only problem with this company is the fact that it's certain times they're lost full

[1:11:52] and then they don't talk.

[1:11:55] You know, they pick up.

[1:11:57] So I mean, maybe if we had an auction

[1:12:00] where we had two companies working with us,

[1:12:03] then if one wasn't available,

[1:12:04] the other one would.

[1:12:05] Because we have so many cars that are sitting on it.

[1:12:08] I do believe we have a backup sewing company in place

[1:12:11] if we need them.

[1:12:13] I think

[1:12:18] we do.

[1:12:19] I think it was Coggan.

[1:12:20] Is that how you pronounce it?

[1:12:21] Yes.

[1:12:22] Yes.

[1:12:23] And we do use them, but I think I think last year when it's opened up last year, we had a couple of people coming in, and

[1:12:32] had interest into this position.

[1:12:35] And we had a guy from, I don't remember he was sitting right here.

[1:12:38] He had interest of donor towing last time this was up.

[1:12:42] I mean, would it hurt us to wait?

[1:12:45] You know, wouldn't hurt us to take the opening up for bids and let people submit their information.

[1:12:52] That's only where we're working for, you know, the residents and for transparency.

[1:12:59] Plus, too, when you have competition, you end up getting the best price for, you know, when you will...

[1:13:05] I don't forget, the best price may not give you the best price.

[1:13:08] I'm saying the total package might be better.

[1:13:12] But we won't know that unless we look.

[1:13:31] That's not even then they will win the bid maybe next time, but they should not be able to take for granted that every time their contract expires, they get an automatic renewal, it needs to be brought before council.

[1:13:45] Council with other opportunities for other businesses to get that contract.

[1:13:53] I agree.

[1:14:04] How do we dispose of this motion with the second? If they don't want to act on it.

[1:14:15] The beans are drawn. John, you're muted.

[1:14:23] Somebody would have to make a motion to table with and you would vote on the motion table.

[1:14:31] Well, if it's retracted, then you don't have to do anything, so I'm not on the floor anymore.

[1:14:40] Got it. You got that, John?

[1:14:42] Yes, I am. It was a motion by Gover. It's second by Sepsy. If they want to retract the motion and take a look at it, let it go.

[1:14:54] If they retract it, you don't have to, then it's just not on the floor anymore, if they want it to stay on the floor.

[1:15:00] The floor and somebody wants it to be delayed. They have to make a motion to table it. Did I hear you right? Didn't you say I'm retracting this? Yes. It's not on the floor. So, so we're on the nine. So I make a motion that we table this. So that's me. If he retracted it, you don't have to table it. You're retracted. It's not a table.

[1:15:26] All right.

[1:15:27] Also, let's John,

[1:15:28] I'll solicit proposals for the next meeting.

[1:15:31] We'll put out the bits for it.

[1:15:35] Retracted.

[1:15:37] Item number nine.

[1:15:44] Then we kind of dispose of this when you read the list,

[1:15:47] or is this a different issue?

[1:15:49] This is a separate resolution identifying those structures as blighted.

[1:15:53] It's required by the application.

[1:15:55] I move that the accompanying resolution identify seven structures

[1:15:59] as determined and blighted is approved.

[1:16:08] We have a motion by Franklin, second by CAHM, all in place.

[1:16:32] Authorized to execute documents and make payment of $800 to acquire tax part, parcel

[1:16:38] number 2, 3, 6, dash M dash 2, 3, 8, 4, 10, Hawkins from D. Winston as part of the Hawkins

[1:16:46] recreation site develop. Second. We've got a motion by Tho Burnett, second by Parker,

[1:17:07] the 2018

[1:17:09] condition of their international property, maintenance dose, and an international

[1:17:15] fire plan. Thank you. All right, we've got a motion by Stephanie, second and by Franklin Doree.

[1:17:23] Doug. I'll read the opening paragraph in ordinance of the Burrow North Braddock,

[1:17:28] to Allegheny County, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania,

[1:17:30] amending ordinance number 1037 of the Bureau of North,

[1:17:34] Bureau of North Braddock,

[1:17:35] by adopting the 2018 version

[1:17:38] of the International Property Maintenance Code

[1:17:40] and the International Fire Code.

[1:17:44] Motion to approve is needed.

[1:17:49] Hi, so moved.

[1:17:50] All right, we've got a motion by Franklin

[1:17:54] to adopt and have bread taken by Parker.

[1:18:03] All in favor?

[1:18:04] All in favor.

[1:18:05] I think

[1:18:10] a motion that we accept the asphalt asphalt art proposal that was submitted and that they

[1:18:19] be allowed to move forward with submitting it for the grant. Second, I've got this question.

[1:18:32] We have a motion to accept the asphalt given by Barker. We have a question on the floor by

[1:18:45] I'm going to let Edith or Lauren explain it in deeper detail I know it is I want to know what organization with non-profit is known and that's all so the application is a joint application the burrow has

[1:19:10] to apply with a non-profit organization.

[1:19:15] So the borough is an applicant and we would contract with the nonprofit for implementation.

[1:19:20] Is that correct?

[1:19:22] Yes, the nonprofit.

[1:19:23] What exactly is the ART project?

[1:19:26] Counseling Council understands it.

[1:19:29] The side of all the work you were talking about.

[1:19:31] Lisa.

[1:19:33] Lauren, you can explain it.

[1:19:34] Yeah, I'm sorry. I thought that council had received, you know, the information. But the asphalt art project is a project that's been done in cities all over the United States.

[1:19:47] What happens is the community comes together, they design a plan to either mitigate traffic issues at certain intersections, intersections.

[1:20:00] sections, excuse me, or they could use it to implement like pedestrian safety, so bike lanes,

[1:20:08] but it's all with art, so you do it, but you do it in a creative way.

[1:20:13] So Lauren, what we're talking about is painting intersections.

[1:20:16] Yes, but it would be one intersection in particular, and we would like it to be, eat it, could

[1:20:23] you, I believe it's, is it balled ridge, is the intersection?

[1:20:27] Yeah, the idea is because of Jones and Balbridge and the community interested in that space and then also the amount of activity.

[1:20:38] The idea would be to use this or to kind of act as a bridge and a tool not only to address traffic issues that are there but also as a potential to.

[1:20:56] to create a healing experience.

[1:21:02] Basically, we're trying to change that corner

[1:21:05] and from the violence that's happening there

[1:21:09] to a positive experience for people in the neighborhood.

[1:21:13] We'll council be able to see the art work

[1:21:17] and the work goes on the app as well.

[1:21:20] Absolutely.

[1:21:21] It's actually advised that members of council

[1:21:24] and actually the leaders of the street department actually sit on the core team for all of the prior design and then implementation.

[1:21:33] And I just want to add that part of the grant also is that programming will be facilitated at the location and the bread on Carnegie library will facilitate public programming for that area.

[1:21:45] and who's funding the grant. So the grant comes through the Bloomberg

[1:21:51] Foundation. This is a nationwide call for this. It's super competitive. It's

[1:21:57] super competitive. The award is $25,000. You get national attention and then also

[1:22:07] the people who are executing the project would then, you know, the team would

[1:22:13] also receive workshops and development from architectural firm in Miami who specializes

[1:22:24] in their urban transportation planning firm that specializes in these asphalt art projects.

[1:22:31] So basically the nonprofit receives the money, the $25,000 and the idea is to have

[1:22:43] right communities and nonprofits working together with the government to improve the streets.

[1:22:52] How long does that artwork last on the asphalt?

[1:22:58] So part of the grant asked for ask that question.

[1:23:04] So generally if you're doing a painted asphalt project, it's going to look really good for a year.

[1:23:11] but within the grant it asked for what the maintenance plan would be.

[1:23:15] So I think whoever on this team or wants to discuss,

[1:23:22] after a year it would require some maintenance.

[1:23:25] You can also decide to remove it.

[1:23:27] So there are some different approaches you could take,

[1:23:29] you could take a painted approach, you could also take a,

[1:23:34] basically sort of like a giant sticker that's made for streets

[1:23:38] and sidewalks that could be placed and then it could be removed. But this is part of what we have

[1:23:46] to include within the proposal. And unfortunately the deadline is April 30th. So any of the council

[1:23:58] members or the street plan, sorry, street department that wants to be involved with it. If we,

[1:24:08] you know,

[1:24:08] happy to connect with you all directly to discuss some of these issues.

[1:24:14] So the game plan is that maintenance of this, this art would be handled by the, would

[1:24:20] be handled by a group other than the borough.

[1:24:23] Yes.

[1:24:24] That's the game plan.

[1:24:25] Yes.

[1:24:25] Do you know if you need a resolution to submit the grant application?

[1:24:30] We, I do not, I do not see that there was a requirement, but it would be good if we

[1:24:35] We could say, yes, the boroughs on board with it, the street departments on board with

[1:24:41] it.

[1:24:42] Otherwise, I don't think we'd be able to submit the application.

[1:24:47] I mean, basically, the foundation that put it out, they want to know that you actually

[1:24:53] have approval from the government to do this, right?

[1:24:56] Because it's been-

[1:24:58] I have no idea, John, I haven't really reviewed the grant application process.

[1:25:02] is just council keep in mind that you're responsible

[1:25:04] for your right of ways.

[1:25:06] My only concern is I have seen streets in the city

[1:25:10] of Pittsburgh that have been painted.

[1:25:13] And after a year of a winter, it looks like six streets.

[1:25:18] And I hope that main artery in North Braddock

[1:25:21] is maintained as we go along with the artwork.

[1:25:26] Yes.

[1:25:28] Oh, so you would either have to maintain it

[1:25:31] to keep it going or remove it.

[1:25:33] This is like, these are stipulations within the application.

[1:25:38] So they're viewing this as temporary projects

[1:25:42] if you want them to be longer.

[1:25:46] There has to be a maintenance plan

[1:25:47] as part of the application.

[1:25:51] You said a sticker too, like a base sticker

[1:25:54] would go down, is that a thing?

[1:25:57] Yeah, there's basically, you know, 10 graphics, you know, he's someone I'm sure we could

[1:26:05] talk to, but yeah, they're basically printing, printing companies, print on materials that

[1:26:14] you can basically lay down on brick asphalt, all kinds of things, and that's stick.

[1:26:22] And those things are also temporary too and so they're printed on material specifically

[1:26:33] for this kind of use.

[1:26:35] If it rains it wouldn't be slippery, is that correct?

[1:26:39] Well, those are other concerns that you have to have.

[1:26:42] So you have to have surfaces that are not slippery.

[1:26:45] So if it's painted, you can put a grits, you know, some sort of sand or there's other materials that you could put in that give you some traction.

[1:26:58] So yeah, those are, you know, safety is the number one consideration for projects like this, as well as community engagement and the aesthetics.

[1:27:31] I mean, we're responsible for maintaining streets, I mean, what I don't think if it's dangerous, yes.

[1:27:41] I honestly, I mean, I understand that concern.

[1:27:44] but have you all looked at that corner like when a bus tries to get around

[1:27:49] there and there are cars parked there? We're still responsible now the way it

[1:27:54] is so I don't I'm not seeing this as an additional risk you know I think that

[1:28:01] there are ways that we can get around people slipping on it as opposed to moving

[1:28:08] a car that's there,

[1:28:12] it's certainly got to be an improvement for the corner.

[1:28:16] We're going to

[1:28:20] legally park it though.

[1:28:22] You never know, they might like the artwork and they don't want to cover it up.

[1:28:27] Who knows?

[1:28:29] Let me add something.

[1:28:30] The process is very competitive from what I saw most of grants went to large municipalities.

[1:28:37] So I don't know if there's a likelihood that we'll be funded but they they want to pursue it council can always reject the application if it's funded if they find that it's too much of a hassle. So why don't we just

[1:28:49] motion to have them submit the grant application.

[1:28:53] I say move.

[1:28:56] I have to be seconded by motion by Franklin and seconded by Parker.

[1:29:01] What's the nonprofit organization?

[1:29:06] CARES can do it.

[1:29:09] CARES.

[1:29:10] CARES is going in.

[1:29:18] So we do have a seconded

[1:29:25] by Parker.

[1:29:47] No, if there's a letter of support required, I'll just prepare it based on this motion.

[1:29:53] All right.

[1:29:54] Thank you, Doug.

[1:29:56] I think can I just ask a quick question.

[1:30:00] For the application, we may have to list who the team is. Is there a, Doug, can we put your name down as the city manager that you would be part of the team or are there other? The employees or council members that want to be listed on the team? You know you can list me. You can put me down.

[1:30:25] Okay, so the, Lisa, Edas, you got plenty.

[1:30:28] Okay so Lisa, Vicki and Mike.

[1:30:33] All right, thank you.

[1:30:35] Thank you.

[1:30:37] We'll make a motion into Bayroll's day 310 in 324-21,

[1:30:42] a ratified and approved for Bayroll.

[1:30:44] Second.

[1:30:45] We've got a motion by Go for it, second by Parker,

[1:30:49] on a payroll, all in favor.

[1:30:52] Opposed, the eyes out.

[1:31:05] We got emotional by 72nd by Franklin. All in favor.

[1:31:14] The eyes out. I moved that we adjourned for the evening.

[1:31:18] excuse me. I have a question. For the street sweepers it was $85 an hour. How many hours

[1:31:27] would that have been? Like four. How many hours would he be out on the road?

[1:31:33] Charlie 8 to 12. 8 to 12 hours or no. 8 a.m. to 12. 8 a.m. to 2.5 hours. About 4.5 hours.

[1:31:45] What about the idea of

[1:31:50] leasing a street sweeper in having one of the public works person run it all day instead of the $5 an hour.

[1:32:03] Well, this is not necessarily for a summer amount. This is not all the time exactly.

[1:32:08] we're already paying the public work order to come to work.

[1:32:15] So why not lease it and the amount of money

[1:32:18] that we would have already spent the $85?

[1:32:22] Do we have to go through the cost?

[1:32:26] Well, that's OK.

[1:32:27] There are ones that provide the service that we do.

[1:32:30] We do have to do it, because we're looking at the rent

[1:32:38] We're already paying the deal.

[1:32:45] We're taking a thorough worker off of his regular duty to drive around.

[1:32:51] But you're saving the $85 dollars an hour.

[1:32:55] John, let me jump in here.

[1:32:56] The Council of Governments has studied this annazium and they found out that this is the best deal for municipalities like ours that are short staffs and don't have the funding to go out and either acquire a share.

[1:33:08] street sweeper or lease a street sweeper with an operator. A lot of times you

[1:33:13] can't just lease up street sweeper. You need an operator. So in the past, this

[1:33:19] has been the best deal.

[1:33:25] Guys, the question?

[1:33:26] Yes.

[1:33:27] Are you OK?

[1:33:29] I'm going to pay them all the bill.

[1:33:32] Doug, can you confirm?

[1:33:35] I just wanted to have one thing else. Jerome just mentioned to me that, for

[1:33:39] For instance, Mountain Lebanon uses still Valley Cog for street sweeping.

[1:33:45] So, food for thought, go ahead, I'm sorry, Dick.

[1:33:48] That's okay.

[1:33:49] Question.

[1:33:50] Can somebody confirm for me that all our police cars have their GPSs working?

[1:33:59] I believe they're all working.

[1:34:03] I have to check with the chief.

[1:34:04] I'm not sure.

[1:34:07] Okay.

[1:34:07] Okay, then, is it possible that I can have?

[1:34:12] No.

[1:34:13] Well, I have a bad feeling.

[1:34:14] Certainly.

[1:34:15] Can I ask if you can?

[1:34:16] Well, then, okay, can so many please confirm to me

[1:34:20] the location of the undercover car for the last month?

[1:34:28] Not necessarily what house it's sitting at in the borough,

[1:34:32] but if it leaves the borough for extended periods of time.

[1:34:38] That vehicle and that officer is involved in some sensitive police matters that I'm not aware of, but I would suggest you give the chief a call.

[1:34:47] I've tried.

[1:34:48] He does not return phone.

[1:34:50] I'll make sure he gives you a call tomorrow.

[1:34:52] Okay, thank you.

[1:35:03] We have a motion to adjournce by Franklin, seconded by Governe, a gelatin favor.

[1:35:10] Opposed, the eyes have it.

[1:35:13] Remember, the next meeting is the last Tuesday of the month.

[1:35:17] Right now, May 25.

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