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» There we go.
>> All right, welcome everyone. Let's uh
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open the meeting with the pledge of
allegiance
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to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it
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stands. One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice
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for all.
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Dumbar
>> present.
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» Harper
>> here.
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» Maer
>> here.
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» Sofa
>> here.
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» Weaver
>> here.
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» Way
>> here.
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» Zimmer
>> here.
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» All right. [snorts] Uh, do we need to
remove anything from the consent agenda?
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[clears throat]
If we're not going to remove anything,
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if uh I can get a motion to adopt it and
list off what what it is
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presented.
>> Yes, please.
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» What do you Oh, you want all?
>> Yes.
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» August distribution reports electron
transfers nothing else.
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» Yes.
August dispersion reports $365,34068
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[clears throat]
>> the electronic wire transfers of
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$20,5365
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and there are no communications on
>> support.
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All right. All in favor?
>> Any opposed?
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adoption of the agenda. Any changes to
the agenda?
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» I don't know if we need to add it or if
we can include it as part of the animal
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ordinance, but we received the um
application uh from the last meeting
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about the kennel. An advisory has a
recommendation from it. Do we do you
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think it would be appropriate to add it
as an agenda item or as a subsection of
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unfinished business? Maybe just an
agenda item.
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» Yeah.
>> I mean, I'm fine either way.
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» Well, we're not going to have a
presentation, so that needs to be
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removed.
>> But we can talk about that. Yeah, we
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can.
>> Yeah.
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Pass the time.
>> Item K, the presentation is not
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happening.
>> It's not happening. If not, he can come
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to the next meeting on the 15th, but he
can't come he couldn't come tonight.
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» Okay. But that that won't change
anything for this.
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» No.
>> Okay. So can we motion to amend the
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agenda to remove the presentation of the
animal ordinance from Mcome County and
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replace that or actually I'm sorry add
to unfinished business
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the uh request for approval for the
rescue dog under the animal ordinance
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for the city of Memphis. Is that about
cover?
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» I think so. Um, so I make a motion to
approve the agenda as amended.
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» All in favor?
>> Any opposed?
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» Okay. Approval of minutes from August
11th,
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2026.
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There are no amendments. Can I get a
motion to approve?
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» Make a motion to approve the minutes of
the regular meeting of August 11th.
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» Support.
>> All in favor?
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» Any opposed?
Motion car.
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Okay.
I have nothing this this week. reports
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from city council members committees
>> advisory met yesterday. Um there was a
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lot of things to come out of that
meeting. There's still some follow-ups
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that like um that are happening. So we
don't necessarily have anything for
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today. Um
uh aside from the
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application um but there will be more
for us.
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» Okay.
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reports from administration.
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» Donnie, you want to start?
>> I don't have anything.
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» Mr. Wilson,
>> nothing.
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I just want to report I um we have to
replace uh so many service lines,
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galvanized lines within our city and I
have one that came up that's actually an
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emergency that I'm about to jump on
tomorrow
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um because he has no water be a
galvanized line. It's up to the city to
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get that line from that curve box up
into the house within 18 in.
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Um, just want to let you know. So,
there's expenditures trying to get
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worked on, but this one happened to be
an emergency. And then, um, then we have
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an issue with our elevator at the
library
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that needs inspections.
And I didn't want to just drop it in
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your lap tonight, but at the next
meeting I will bring you a couple of
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quotes I have for
um two inspections a year.
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» Okay. I think at the moment that's
>> Have they been been being inspected
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twice a year already?
>> No.
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Assume somebody else is doing that. But
when the inspector came over, I got a
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phone call from
the department head there.
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» Anyways,
>> okay,
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» I'm taking care of it.
>> We were issued another permit because it
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was all new,
but in two years when he comes back, he
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he would like to see the maintenance log
on it.
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All
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right, parks and wreck.
>> So, we have our senior lunch next
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Friday, September 11th, and then um
we're doing a fundraiser with the Lions
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for the park that's next to the Lions
Club, um which is the side byside run
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and the foot race. And that is September
19th at 1:00.
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And how do they sign up for that?
>> Right here at the city.
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» Okay.
Any
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other administration?
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All right. Public comments.
Uh Judy Kendall.
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» I won't take much of your time. Um my
name is Judy Kendall and I am with Twin
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Pine Apartments on Boardman Road. In
regards to the um advisory committee, I
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did attend with um Robbie and Tim
yesterday
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uh going over the proposals, the current
ones and proposals. Uh we had a one of
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the best discussions I've ever had with
the city of Memphis yesterday and um it
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was very productive. Um with meeting
with a group of the landlords, etc. Um,
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we still are missing the list of those
who are actually in town that rent. So,
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we don't even know who to contact to say
what do you think, what's your input,
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what can you give us, what can we learn
from you, etc. Um, we are we got the
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feel I got the feeling and shared it
with the other landlords the other day
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that the group was very very very open
to working with us, listening to us,
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brainstorming, coming up with something
that would work um
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for a lot of us. Um, we think there's a
whole whole lot to do. we have been
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doing constant hours and hours of
research uh with other towns, other
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cities um that it really just puts this
all way down the line because you got to
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have that list. You can't collect taxes
if you don't know who you're collecting
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them from. So, it's that's an analogy
there. Um the prices are still too high
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even in the proposal. Um we did not want
the individual that you selected to uh
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do the inspection. We feel like that's
putting the fox on the hen house. I'm
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making a couple of points only to get
the wheels moving here just to so we can
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kind of think about things and and be
open and honest with each other. Um
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we're wondering how many complaints have
been from people. Um we haven't had any
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and everybody else I talked to says they
haven't had any. So I'm not sure where
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all this uh manure came from. So, um,
and then there's another thing of how
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are we going to be notified of the
inspections with the date and time
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because we as landlords are in a mission
law. Um, it's a big book. Um, and we
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have to give them 24-hour notice that
we're coming in and they have to know
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why. That's the law. So, we have to be
following the law as well. Um, things of
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uh all the rentals that are uptown and
the businesses that are uptown. Do you
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rent? If you have a building and you
rent a business, is that going to be
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inspected? If you have a a business up
there and you have a rental above it, is
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that being expected? Which we darn well
better be. Um, and um wondering how
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often is it going to be yearly,
quarterly, 6 months, 2 years, etc., etc.
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A lot of the things that were brought up
in here were very good. It took a lot of
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thought and and thoroughess. Um, in in
conclusion here, I did get a the other
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list and it's so
it's just not there, folks. It's just
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not there. The people aren't there. Um,
we can't have a group of people work
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with you beautiful group people if we
don't know who to ask to be there.
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That's not fair to the public. It's not
fair to the business landlords. It's
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just not right. It needs to be fixed.
Um, and that is our not our job to run
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around town knocking on doors. Do you
have a rental? Do you have a rental?
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That's not our job. Um,
the other thing is we would very much as
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a group like to meet with um I don't
know Tim if Mr. simmer if this goes to
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the um advisory council again or I I
don't know what your um thing but we
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want to meet again as a group. We want
other people want to come.
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» I shared a lot of the um your great
ideas. Some of the ones I we totally
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disrespected or we respectfully
disagreed.
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» Um but we worked around a lot of them.
Um but I think there's a whole lot more
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that we really need to have some
meetings with you guys. um you know, you
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guys can't go in close session and do
this and then we go in uh somebody's
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living room and do it and that that
ain't working. We've already proved that
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doesn't work. So, we're not going to
keep doing the same thing and expect
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something different. So, that we would
are requesting a meeting for that. Thank
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you for your time. Have a good evening.
>> Thank you very much.
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» Can I respond?
>> Yeah. So, just so everyone knows, Judy
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was here yesterday. We talked for
probably an hour and a halfish
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roughly.
>> Y
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» um more than willing to have continue
those conversations as long as it stays
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respectful, right? The biggest thing.
>> Very good.
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» No hard feelings, no animous, no
anything like that.
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» Um I did reach out to uh the attorney
that was here last time. I don't know if
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you saw that. I did have I respond the
correct email address. Um, so the wheels
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are in motion to make those
improvements. Um, I don't think we're
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going to be finalizing anything tonight.
So,
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» no,
>> I think continuing the conversation is
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completely fine.
>> Yep. I just we just want to keep that
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ball rolling. We don't want to get
stuck.
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» Unfinished business advisory.
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I guess it's all us today.
>> Yes.
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» So, um, at the last meeting, you got the
proposed changes that we, uh,
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after our meeting recommended. Um, and
we just wanted to open up the
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conversation very similar to the
conversation we had with M. Kendall
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yesterday about thoughts, ideas after
our conversation yesterday. There are I
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mean, it it can be changed, right?
There's different ideas to to flesh out
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and talk out. Um, I think advisory is
probably going to have to meet again.
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Robbie, would you agree?
>> Yes.
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» To, but we want to make sure everybody
has ideas. One of the like one of the
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big ones that stood out to me yesterday
after talking with Miss Kendall was
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pricing, right? So, the way it's
structured right now is that it's a flat
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rate fee. So, you know, in some pe in
some landlord situations, there are
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apartments that are I'm going to make up
a number 500 ft² and they are paying the
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same fee for someone who has a house
that is 1,600 square f feet.
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Pricing based based on square footage is
probably something we should look at.
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And we would have never we would have
never had that if we didn't have that
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conversation yesterday. So, I I think
there's a lot more to flesh out. I think
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there's a lot more conversation to be
had about it. Um, I did email uh Sarah
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Grout, I think.
>> Just like tile grout.
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» Yeah, Grout. Sarah Grout. Yes. Uh, this
morning, this afternoon,
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» something like that. Uh, I emailed her
this afternoon. She hasn't responded
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yet. Um, just so she also had that
information. Um, I did tell her and
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watermark it as, you know, this is a
draft. The council still has to meet,
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advisory still has to meet. We want to
continue talking with landlords. Um I
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think that we can both agree like a
great negotiation is that neither side
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is going to be happy with everything,
right? We're gonna it's give and take on
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both sides. Um and it sounds like, you
know, we're in the same spot, right? We
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have the same beliefs. We both want the
same things. Um so I don't think there's
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similar similar things. Yeah.
>> Yeah. And and I think that's the the big
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thing. I was going [snorts] to I was
going to kind of end with that, but um I
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I wanted to open up to conversations
here with the full council as opposed to
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just advisory. But one of the things I
do want to make sure that is is very
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very clear is this is not intended to
generate revenue for the city. That was
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never the intention. That has never been
the intent attent in intention and that
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will never be the intention. It is not a
revenue generating mechanism. So
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» disagree
>> that and we can respectfully disagree
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and that's fine but that is that is not
the intention of of this council. I feel
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confident saying that. Um so yeah I just
open the floor to what you guys looked
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at what we presented as a recommendation
what your thoughts were anything like
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that. I think we're open to it. I think
we're taking notes.
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» We met yesterday from
>> We didn't change any of that.
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» Didn't change anything. didn't change
anything. We just generated I mean I got
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like a few pages of notes just from that
conversation. Um
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the square footage was just an example
of one of the things that came out of
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that conversation. Yeah.
>> So I think there's more work to do. I
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don't I I mean I I'm I think this is a
good starting point. I don't think it's
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the final.
>> Oh no. No.
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I think something fair, you know, just
to show that this is not a revenue
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generating thing is to um at least as we
go along with this, you're going to have
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have a fee that you're going to charge.
Um it'd be nice to be able to show at
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least annually or something how much
came in and where it went. It went to
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pay this inspector. went to pay Donna
and and the clerks for doing whatever
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paperwork they did so that we can just
show that this isn't we're not, you
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know, we're not getting anything above
and beyond what we're actually paying to
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do the work is all, you know, and that
would be a good to show the landlords
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that, hey, we're not, you know, trying
to make anything off [clears throat] it,
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but this is what it costs to do.
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» Like detailed accounting of the fees
collected.
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» Yeah. just [snorts] you know you did how
many you paid the inspector how much um
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that the you know city clerk put this
much time into it you know
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» I wouldn't think that would actually go
into the ordinance I think that would
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just be best practice best
>> practice how we carry out the ordinance
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» the majority of the fee structure was
going to pay Mel for his time correct
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» 100%
but
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» you know honestly some of that is you're
walking into a one-bedroom apartment and
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you're checking smoke alarms and this
and that you're going to be in and out
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of that apartment in about a half hour.
>> What are you charging for a half hour?
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» You know,
>> that's kind of the idea,
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» especially when you're walking through
something like the old school apartments
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and you're going from apartment to
apartment to apartment and you're
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charging how much per unit,
>> you know, that that's the kind of stuff
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that needs to be figured out. It's going
to take him, you know, this much time
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and we don't really know until he starts
doing it,
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» right?
>> Um,
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that's what I think. Like I said, like
you said, if you're doing a house, yeah,
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you're probably going to have to walk
around, look at the grading, look at the
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drainage, um, things like that. Now, if
you're walking
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a large apartment building, you're he's
going to be in and out pretty quick.
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» I think that the fee should kind of
reflect that a little bit.
[19:13]
» Yeah. When we created that fee structure
that you guys have in front of you, we
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did it as just a strictly number
[snorts] of units breakdown, which I
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mean after our conversation yesterday
should be adjusted. I think I totally
[19:25]
agree with the whole square footage
conversation. I think that that makes a
[19:30]
huge difference. And that wasn't even
something we we didn't even talk about
[19:34]
that when we had our meeting to create
that fee structure.
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I mean, because pretty much when he
walks into an apartment, what's he
[19:42]
looking at? You know, smoke alarms, do
the windows open and close, um, you
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know, trip hazards, handrails,
>> right? You know, um,
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» clear exits,
>> you know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, clear
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exits, [clears throat] uh, gas,
electric, any leaks, things like that.
[20:02]
It shouldn't be a big long process
inside each apartment. [cough]
[20:07]
Anyone
else?
[20:12]
» Because the whole goal of it was for
safety. [clears throat]
[20:15]
Right. Right. That was the entire goal
of it. It was just um people who live in
[20:21]
apartments, they are our citizens of the
city of Memphis. There are voters and by
[20:27]
proxy they're are taxpayers. Um and you
know to look out for their safety I
[20:33]
think is a good idea. [cough]
That's what everybody needs to
[20:36]
understand is that this this whole
program was a was is to be implemented
[20:42]
for the safety of the residents.
[snorts]
[20:46]
That's the whole goal there is to make
sure that we if anybody is renting that
[20:52]
that it's the safety.
>> Yeah. One of the things we tal another
[20:57]
one of the things we talked about
yesterday is integrity. It's going to
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challenge some people's integrity
because, and I'm just making up a
[21:04]
fictitious example, say like I have a
spare, you know, apartment above my
[21:10]
garage that I rent to Councilman Dunar,
but I don't claim it on my taxes. Like,
[21:16]
there's some integrity issues with that.
And I I think as a city, it's it's
[21:20]
important to have integrity and
character that you recognize that. So, I
[21:27]
think that's important.
[21:33]
If nobody has anything else, I would
just I I mean I would make a motion to
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table this until uh we're able to spend
some time with addition with Miss
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Kendall and some additional landlords
and have additional conversations when
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we're ready to present a final uh update
to the ordinance
[21:53]
board.
Can I just mention one more thing?
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» No.
>> Okay. [laughter]
[22:01]
» Just kidding. Bart,
>> when you have, let's say, a separate
[22:06]
building on your property or or a loft
in your garage, what have you, I
[22:11]
remember years ago, there was something
in our code, if you have a family
[22:17]
member,
there was
[22:20]
» something in that code book regarding
family members that's living in that.
[22:23]
So, we did talk about that a little bit
about like family members because like
[22:26]
um
>> you know, say for example, you know,
[22:29]
your child comes back from college
>> and is, you know, living in the
[22:33]
apartment of the above the garage until
they can get their feet under them and
[22:36]
and things like that.
>> Does that count as the same thing as
[22:40]
someone who has a structured lease, who
has a binding document, um like those
[22:45]
types of things? Those are conversations
to have. I would say no. family members
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I would probably say no to. But I mean I
would want everyone to be on board with
[22:56]
that. I'm only one one [clears throat]
person. So
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» just something I remember from years
back
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» like a wealth of knowledge. [snorts]
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I support it
>> the table until
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» until we can continue having
conversations, continue negotiating,
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continue, you know, figuring out what
the final version will look like.
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» I mean, realistically, it's not cutting
any time off.
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» I I mean, I there's no damage being done
to any, you know, any city people, any
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landlords. We're just uh probably doing
some due diligence that we should have,
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you know, regrettably done previous to
just rolling it out.
[23:41]
» Like I think we have an implementation
plan. I think we have a a structure in
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place.
>> Uh I think we I think we need more,
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right? I think we need more.
>> It's a it's a lot better. It's a better
[23:54]
uh better position for us to be in. Um I
think we're closer, but you're right. we
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can we can continue to work on it and
get something that's
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you know that everybody can agree is you
know
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» a good thing for the city.
>> And I could just squeak real quick with
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regards to the um and some may already
know this to the welfare of our citizens
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here in the community. Um
we'll get into that with you later but
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uh oh happy day. Uh they uh Pat passed
away.
[24:31]
» So if you did Yes, he did. The one that
was in the fire on the house on the
[24:35]
corner. So God rest his soul. But there
was a citizen that was in a very very
[24:40]
dilapidated house that nothing got done
with and that breaks my heart. But it is
[24:46]
what it is and we'll just keep them in
our prayers.
[24:49]
» Thank you.
>> All right. We have a motion.
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» Second.
>> All in favor?
[24:55]
» I. Any opposed?
[25:00]
» All right.
>> Okay. Channel 10.
[25:02]
» Yes. So, [clears throat] we received the
uh
[25:07]
application for approval
um to continue operating. Uh
[25:15]
it's a rescue, right? I thought I'd say
it's it's like a rescue, right? Is that
[25:19]
the best for
not a cattle? Um, it's very well
[25:24]
written. Robbie and I both read it.
Advisory's recommendation is to approve
[25:29]
the request and allow her to continue
operating as a rescue. Um, as a uh I
[25:35]
don't think we'd call it a variance. I
think we've just approved the
[25:39]
application to continue operating as a
rescue. you I mean we can all read it
[25:44]
but um [clears throat]
>> I mean that's advisor's recommendation
[25:48]
and that is based on the fact that
multiple individuals were there
[25:53]
inspected the property inspected where
the dogs were kept inspected the home
[25:57]
talked with the homeowner talked with um
with her with the citizen about it and
[26:02]
there were no issues that were found
>> I know the chief already also talked to
[26:06]
neighbors and who didn't even know that
it was that they were there
[26:09]
» right so I think all of that in And
>> I think all of that in total is what led
[26:14]
us to without even knowing that she did
that. I think all of those things in
[26:18]
total led us to believe that this is is
not a a harm or a burden on the city in
[26:24]
any way, shape, or form. I think if
anything changed, we would, you know, we
[26:28]
would find out about it. But advisor's
recommendation is to approve the
[26:32]
application to allow uh should this just
be a motion? Should it just be a motion?
[26:39]
» Just go ahead.
Just to be clear, we we do not have to
[26:43]
um send letters to adjacent property
owners for this.
[26:47]
» Well, she said that
[26:51]
» he didn't he just
>> he talked to a couple neighbors. That's
[26:56]
what he's told me.
[27:00]
» I'm not an expert on the ordinance.
>> I mean, if they're all fine with it,
[27:06]
» it doesn't it doesn't.
>> It doesn't say that in there
[27:08]
specifically.
[27:16]
» [snorts]
>> Strictly there'd have to be a
[27:20]
notification to property owners if you
were talking about a variance.
[27:24]
» Well, it would be a variance if we're
not changing the
[27:28]
» I'm just saying if it is does involve a
variance.
[27:30]
» If that happened,
>> that is a hard pass black and white rule
[27:34]
in the ordinance.
>> If that was the case, then absolutely.
[27:39]
I don't think there is anything
>> without a change without a change to the
[27:44]
variance. I don't
>> a change to the ordinance though.
[27:47]
» You're not changing zoning.
>> Yeah.
[27:49]
» Um
[27:54]
if you made you're making that
recommendation granted that the
[27:58]
neighbors could complain. I would go
look at it. The county might come out.
[28:02]
» They already did. But I'm just saying in
the future if you if you granted it, if
[28:06]
there was any change to the worst, then
we go look at it.
[28:09]
» Right.
>> Right now, nobody's even knew it was
[28:12]
there.
>> Right. Okay.
[28:13]
» Well, she still has to adhere to
>> the rules.
[28:17]
» The rules.
>> It's just the only thing that changes
[28:19]
the number,
>> right?
[28:20]
» So, this just says that we have to
notify the residents of the north,
[28:25]
south, [clears throat] east, and west of
the property.
[28:27]
» We still have the ability to review and
either grant or deny that request.
[28:32]
So we can approve it and then
>> and then we would have to send a notice
[28:36]
that says the city of Memphis has
approved the application to continue
[28:40]
» operating as motion made. I support it.
>> All right. All in favor?
[28:47]
» Any opposed?
>> So moved.
[28:52]
» Donna, do you want this back for record
keeping?
[28:57]
[clears throat]
>> All right. New business. I know
[29:01]
» Richmond Lennox EMS smart contract.
>> Mr. White,
[29:08]
» good evening. Um, mayor, members of
council, we're here for kind of what is
[29:13]
almost an annual ritual uh with regards
to uh your local public transportation
[29:19]
as relates to funding. As you know, you
know, the city of Memphis does not get
[29:23]
any line hall type buses, the big buses
from from SMR. Um, however, I our
[29:30]
residents nevertheless in the Mcome
County portion of Memphis pay 1 mil to
[29:34]
Smart for buses. And so, um, since 1999,
uh, we've been working with Smart Bus,
[29:43]
uh, on your behalf to provide local
what's called community partnership
[29:47]
transportation, which simply means we
can use buses that you probably often
[29:52]
see here in the community. be there
about the size of an airport shuttle and
[29:55]
transport people to and from everything
from doctor's appointments, regularly
[29:59]
scheduled medical treatments to the
grocery store and even to work. Uh we
[30:04]
have a number of people actually that's
become surprisingly popular um that uh
[30:09]
can't drive for one reason or another.
Maybe their cars broke down. Maybe they
[30:13]
have a sight issue or or a medical
problem that prohibits them from getting
[30:17]
a driver's license. But nevertheless, uh
they they are out uh being, you know, a
[30:22]
hardworking member of our society in
various different jobs. They just don't
[30:26]
have a means to get there. And so that's
what the the service does. We operate uh
[30:30]
six days a week uh here in the
community. Uh and how the funding and so
[30:37]
we provide about just over 700 annual
rides here in Memphis. So pretty good
[30:43]
number for the size of your your
population. We do have about a 10% rate
[30:47]
of refusal. That means we don't really
refuse people. We don't want to do that,
[30:51]
but we're just full. Uh and there's only
a limited amount of funding to so once
[30:55]
we're out of funding, we can't provide
more rents, if you will. Um a little bit
[31:00]
of good news on that front. The um
through a lot of work from some of the
[31:06]
larger communities farther to our south,
uh you receive about 3% of the one mill
[31:12]
that you pay back from smart. but not a
very not a very big number. Um there's a
[31:18]
lot of pressure put on by the county
board of commissioners uh as well as
[31:22]
others um to convince Smart if the next
millillage passes which will come up in
[31:27]
November they'll be reserving they'll be
returning uh 12 and a half% of your mill
[31:32]
back to the community. So with that
we're hoping we can reduce that number
[31:36]
of people returning away uh when all the
communities start to receive them. Um,
[31:42]
the other thing I'd like to mention real
quickly before I move on to the actual
[31:45]
number, uh, is that we are hiring at the
MS. We are looking for hiring at the EMS
[31:51]
in our transit division. Um, we are
looking for drivers, uh, for those small
[31:56]
buses. Uh, we have both full-time
positions that uh that come with, you
[32:01]
know, full pay as well as healthcare
benefits. Um,
[32:05]
and then we are also looking for
part-time people. We have uh we have
[32:09]
part-time folks that work for us. A lot
of retirees, other people that might not
[32:12]
want to work all the time, but can build
the schedule around their need, their
[32:16]
children's needs, uh or just uh like you
say, want to make a little bit money for
[32:20]
their golf game now that they're in
retirement kind of thing. Uh so, so we
[32:24]
have a lot of those folks working for
us. We welcome uh folks coming in to
[32:27]
apply uh at the EMS. They can come right
to our building on 32 Mile Road or they
[32:31]
can go right to Google and go rms.org
or and it'll take you right to our
[32:36]
website where there's an application
online. So, um with that, the amount of
[32:41]
uh funding that SMART has provided back
to your community that you can then if
[32:47]
you if you so choose provide back to the
EMS for that uh community partnership
[32:52]
transportation service this year. The
contract is in front of you. And
[32:56]
basically, if you get through all the
all the language in there, it's the same
[33:00]
contract year after year. So, there's
nothing new in there. The total amount
[33:03]
is $3,593
for this year. And the EMS is simply
[33:08]
asking uh for council to approve the
mayor to execute that uh that agreement.
[33:14]
Send it back to us. We will forward it
to SMRT and the money passes right from
[33:18]
SMRT to us at that point. So it does not
pass through the city's um through the
[33:22]
city's treasury.
[33:26]
That's all I've got unless there are any
other questions.
[33:29]
» I have a quick question. Where's the
where's the pickup here in Memphis? We
[33:32]
don't really do. So this this is uh we
do it we I like call doors show, right?
[33:37]
But we used to do it we used to have a a
a vehicle that started in Memphis and
[33:42]
just went down to Chesterfield for
people to catch the um I think they call
[33:46]
the 5310 bus. The bus that leaves 23 and
Grash there uh and goes to Point South.
[33:53]
We just weren't getting enough ridership
on that. So we still have some people
[33:56]
that take that. We just pick them up at
their door.
[33:59]
» Okay. So that's still available to folks
to go down and catch that bus and go
[34:02]
farther south. But but like you say, we
we were we had an empty bus going a lot
[34:07]
and so we didn't want to we didn't want
to continue operating the empty bus, but
[34:10]
we have people that were turning away
for service. So this way if somebody
[34:13]
calls their home, they say they want to
go to that bus stop, we just pick them
[34:15]
up their house and take them.
>> And I think was it last year that you
[34:20]
brought it to us that they restricted
the area of uh travel for smart bus?
[34:25]
only Mcome County right before I think
there was
[34:28]
» so uh so that's only so what we had is
we had some of our senior groups
[34:34]
» that were um using the bus to go fairly
great distances taking the bus out of
[34:39]
service for for for an extended period
of time
[34:43]
» um and and a lot of times it was just to
go to a meal we had folks that were
[34:46]
wanting to get the bus in
>> ex community up here in the north and
[34:50]
they'd want to go down to um Detroit for
for lunch. Well, that that's great. I
[34:56]
like to go to Detroit for lunch, too.
But but at the end of the day, we were
[35:00]
doing those trips, you know, for eight
or 10 seniors, but that bus was gone all
[35:04]
day,
>> right?
[35:05]
» And so, we had to make a decision. And
this was our decision. So, I'll take
[35:10]
credit for this because I had to make a
decision with the limited funding that
[35:14]
we get to say
>> I felt like it was more important that
[35:17]
we get as many people as we can to those
I call the medical, the grocery, the
[35:20]
pharmacy to work. Um, and so by simply
saying we will take you in Mcome County,
[35:26]
we can take that same group of seniors
or community members, we can take them
[35:30]
to a restaurant here in our area, we can
drop them off, we can go pick up a
[35:35]
couple people and get them to a doctor's
appointment and then we can go back and
[35:38]
get them. But when we send a bus all the
way to Detroit, that becomes more
[35:41]
difficult to do.
>> Absolutely. I was just curious.
[35:43]
» So yeah, so that's how that all came
about. It really was an issue of
[35:46]
funding. We we may be able to look at um
tweaking some of those things if we you
[35:50]
know should the taxpayers decide to
continue with the smart village and
[35:54]
should uh you know should those
additional funds come I think I think
[35:57]
then we'll be able to talk about how do
we expand and improve service
[36:01]
» absolutely curious
>> are they still doing airport runs
[36:04]
» we we are I don't I don't talk as much
about that as I used to and I'll tell
[36:07]
you exactly why uh simply we've become a
victim of our own success the airport
[36:11]
runs are generally very very full they
are still available I I I'm I'm always
[36:16]
cautious because every time I bring it
up, I have two people that are very
[36:19]
happy with me in the audience and three
people that are not. [laughter] So,
[36:24]
so in in honesty, um we still encourage
people to call for it, we encourage you
[36:28]
to call way in advance because it does
book up and that's another area that
[36:32]
we're really looking at. Um one of the
discussions that we've been having with
[36:35]
some of the communities is as opposed to
doing this airport shuttle the way we've
[36:39]
done it, which is kind of pick you up at
your house and take you is having a
[36:41]
central location for people to come and
then do it several times throughout the
[36:44]
day. So maybe we have the location at
our headquarters on 32 Mile Road and we
[36:49]
say three times a day we're going to go
at these times to the airport and you
[36:53]
can come book a ride and and you can
drive your car to our to our location.
[36:57]
We have a big parking lot there. Uh and
and you know it's all camera I'll set my
[37:02]
cameras or what have you. You can park
your leave your car there. You can still
[37:05]
do everything. You might just have
[music] to get to our station and then
[37:07]
we could look at doing something like
that. And that's one of my hopes if we
[37:11]
are able to get this additional funding.
>> It's expensive to park at the airport.
[37:16]
» It sure is. And I really feel like, you
know,
[37:20]
I've been in this community a long time.
Been here, I think I'm at 35 years or
[37:24]
something like that. I've been here.
And I think one of the things that uh
[37:28]
has has um hopefully been a key to my
longevity is I believe if I take your
[37:33]
money for something, then I should give
you something back for it. That's just
[37:37]
Jeff White's philosophy. And I feel like
with smart sometimes uh there are
[37:41]
certain groups that benefited from it
but not others. And this was the airport
[37:44]
was a great way to give something back,
right? Because you go to the airport
[37:49]
once or twice a year. You pay for that
mill that you're paying to Smart. And so
[37:53]
we want to continue that. We want to
expand upon it. Um and with this we're
[37:58]
we're not Smart won't be asking for any
more millillage. We've just negotiated
[38:02]
with them to give more of it back to our
community so we can do those things.
[38:08]
Okay. Thank you very much.
>> Yes.
[38:11]
» Um I'll make a motion to add into the
municipal credit and community credit
[38:16]
contract for fiscal year 2027.
[clears throat]
[38:21]
» All in favor? I. Any opposed?
Motion carries.
[38:26]
» Thank you all.
[38:34]
» All right. Planning Commission
appointment of Ken Riley uh reappoint
[38:41]
Ken Riley
uh onto the planning commission to
[38:45]
expire July 31st, 2029.
And we need a motion.
[38:53]
» A motion to reappoint Ken Riley with a
term to expire on July 31st, 2029 to the
[38:57]
Memphis Planning Commission.
>> Support.
[39:01]
» All in favor? I.
>> Any opposed?
[39:06]
All right.
[39:14]
Okay. Administrative me memo
uh
[39:20]
city of Memphis office
requesting council approve to allow the
[39:26]
city office to start at 11 a.m. the day
after all elections.
[39:32]
» I did have a question. Is this in
perpetuity
[39:35]
like for every election from from now
on?
[39:41]
» You think they're working from the
morning till 8:00? I don't know.
[39:48]
» The polls close at 8. You're still
there. So,
[39:52]
» I'm not saying it was wrong. Just
>> No, I know. [laughter]
[39:59]
You want to take a dog or do you want me
to take
[40:01]
» Oh, it don't No, I mean this last
election that wasn't really even that
[40:06]
big. Me and Amber didn't get back from
the county till midnight. U presidential
[40:11]
elections, we're usually home around 1
or two and we just can't get up at 8 and
[40:15]
come. It's just too hard. After working
them two weeks straight, too.
[40:19]
» Robbie's done it this year, so she
knows.
[40:23]
I wouldn't wish that on anybody because
you're working the early voting prior to
[40:28]
it too and it's a very
>> weekends everything
[40:30]
» very stressful day. [clears throat]
>> So yeah, I would
[40:35]
» I'd make a motion to approve this for 11
a.m. the day after all.
[40:43]
» All in favor?
>> Any opposed?
[40:47]
» Motion carries.
historical society.
[40:57]
Hi. Um yeah, as my letter says that um
our source right now is in the basement
[41:07]
of the community center that's attached
to the library. It regularly floods.
[41:13]
Um, and there's a lot of times we aren't
o able to get over there to clean it up.
[41:20]
And it's been worse this past year cuz
it's been raining a lot more this this
[41:25]
this past year than than before. And uh
when we were getting ready for Memphis
[41:32]
days, we noticed a lot of stuff was uh
some of it was starting to mold. It was
[41:37]
very musty smelling when you went down
there. Um, we have like dresses and
[41:44]
older clothes on a rack. We have old
maps. We have old like large atlases.
[41:53]
Um, there's just a lot of things that
cannot take the moisture in there, the
[42:01]
humidity there. You you can see they're
deteriorating really bad. And so we were
[42:06]
wondering since you moved into this
larger building if there is any space at
[42:11]
all that we can move just those items
in. The rest of the stuff will stay in
[42:15]
the basement as is. They're they're
secure most of them, but some of them
[42:20]
are are, you know,
really in danger of of being ruined. So
[42:25]
we were just wondering if there was an
area that we could put some of the
[42:29]
stuff.
[42:33]
Wonder why it's flooding.
Barb.
[42:37]
» Yeah.
>> When you hear the word flood, I'm not
[42:41]
sure how you all interpret that, but
you're probably picturing a foot or two
[42:45]
of water, what have you.
That's not the case. It's an old
[42:50]
building, stone foundation.
If anybody knows what a Michigan
[42:55]
basement is, generally they're damp and
there's water comes in. It kind of goes
[43:01]
through the floor. not 100% of the
basement.
[43:05]
» No, but
>> if things were setting up on pallets
[43:08]
versus right on the floor,
>> they are
[43:10]
» and and items
right now in the library and in that
[43:15]
basement.
>> They're they're piled right in front of
[43:18]
electrical panels, which I'm going to
tell you right now is illegal.
[43:23]
And the librarian is going to have to
move stuff around. Historical society
[43:28]
needs to move stuff. Um
because we we're in deep violation on
[43:33]
that. Speak that up. But by flooding,
no. Do you have water? Yes, you have
[43:38]
water. They make what you call
>> they make what you call dehumidifiers.
[43:43]
» No, a mission basement. I I have a
mission basement. I cannot keep anything
[43:47]
down there that I that I have any value
>> any value because it's musty. It's
[43:54]
everything smells. You can't use
anything that's that's down there. So,
[43:58]
» yeah. A lot of basements are like that
whether they leak or not. The question
[44:01]
is, do we have any area that they could
h how much stuff are we talking about?
[44:09]
» I'd say the the rolling rack with our
clothes on it, maybe
[44:16]
four or five boxes.
You know, the everything is off the
[44:21]
floor. Um, we if it's not on a on a
shelving unit, we have something stuffed
[44:28]
underneath it that's plastic.
Um, and we don't cover up the electrical
[44:36]
in our room.
>> Then you've changed it.
[44:38]
» You We You mentioned it like last year.
You mentioned it like last year.
[44:44]
I'm just saying I last I was down there.
It's all
[44:47]
» But um
yeah, it's it's it's not that great of
[44:53]
an amount.
It's just yeah, like I said, like a
[44:58]
rolling rack of clothing, several other
pieces, items and clothing that's that's
[45:02]
like you can't hang because they're are
delicate, so they have to be kind of
[45:06]
laid out and maybe four or five boxes.
>> Average closet size.
[45:12]
» Exactly. Kind of. Yeah, it's not
>> Well, particularly the documents, I
[45:16]
think you would want to get in a dry
environment. I can appreciate that.
[45:19]
» Right. Yeah, it's
>> there is quite room bit of room
[45:21]
upstairs. I'm not going to allow who
gets to call on it,
[45:25]
» but there is quite a bit of open space
up there. If you're talking, you know,
[45:29]
2T 3T by 6T long or something,
>> I'm sure temporarily that would be a
[45:35]
workable solution.
>> Temporarily is really all all we need
[45:38]
until we can find another solution. Um
[45:44]
that off limits up there by the way
>> a building inspector I'm not mistaken
[45:49]
that's not supposed to be open to public
up there. Yeah, he said it's
[45:53]
» Well, I don't know if anybody's
accessing it by the public. It's just
[45:56]
talking about storage. making
we we
[46:01]
construction zone and I'm just saying
that our building inspector advises does
[46:06]
not
>> Well, I'm I'm fine with running to buy
[46:08]
metal circumstanc Sorry, that's not No
big deal.
[46:11]
» And then how do they gain access
[clears throat]
[46:14]
» at any time they want?
>> They don't, you know, they come during
[46:18]
business hours. Well, hey, I'm just
saying they come anytime at the library.
[46:23]
So, I feel like
>> we we are able to get to the library at
[46:27]
any time now because the city gave us
keys so we could get in on a Sunday and
[46:32]
that's when we were doing all our work
for Memphis days. Um, but yeah, most of
[46:37]
this stuff is more storage. It's not
going to be on display until we, you
[46:43]
know, change some stuff upstairs, get
some new um, cases and things like that.
[46:50]
It's just strictly going to be
[clears throat] for right now in
[46:54]
storage. And if we do need it, we could
definitely come during the day when you
[46:58]
guys are open and just grab maybe the
one or two things out of there that we
[47:02]
might need.
>> I would ask Donna
[47:05]
I feel like you're the one that knows
the most about like what and Mel
[47:10]
» Yeah, Donna and Mel would be the ones to
to talk.
[47:13]
» Yeah, I just know what Mel said that
nobody from the public's lot upstairs.
[47:17]
Um I'm trying to think. I'm I would like
to see how much to be honest before I
[47:22]
say like, "Yeah, we can fit it here." I
like to just go over and see how much.
[47:26]
» I'm not against
>> I think it's just understanding, right?
[47:30]
Like
>> Yeah. I just I know he said nobody
[47:32]
upstairs so that kind of counts that out
if you have to go um
[47:36]
» I think the size of the current room is
>> what like 8 by 10
[47:42]
» you know I I'm bad at I'm bad at [cough]
>> the best 10 by 10
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» whole room you need
>> No no I just need a small portion just
[47:53]
to put some of the rest of the stuff can
stay down there just let me know when
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you're there and I'll come back if I can
look at it and we'll
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that
>> I don't think we need to.
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» I don't think we need
>> No, because they're going to they're
[48:06]
going to meet then Donna can have you
know a recommendation of where you know
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you know it might fit in a corner of the
invol the old involvement room or
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something you know down there
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» historical
that would literally
[48:35]
Okay.
>> So, there are some options. So, let
[48:38]
we'll let Donna get with you.
>> Is our basement dry
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» like that be the same as
>> same thing similar, right?
[48:48]
» We don't want people going.
>> I wouldn't want I'd rather both.
[48:53]
» Yes.
>> I don't want to go.
[48:56]
That's just
okay.
[49:04]
[clears throat]
[49:06]
All right. Um,
I just want to uh talk a little bit
[49:14]
about uh the festival. We just had the
beginning of of uh of August. Um it was
[49:24]
I think our best festival in many years.
Um the
[49:30]
return of Miss Memphis which we had a
lot of good participation with. That was
[49:35]
great. Uh the parade, the fireworks were
were outstanding. Um lots of events
[49:40]
going and lots of collaboration around
town. Everybody supporting everybody
[49:46]
else. And that's it just it it was just
a very great fun weekend and we had a
[49:53]
lot of people in town and that was good
to see. So I appreciate everybody who
[49:58]
put on events, supported each other and
uh hopefully next year will be will be
[50:05]
even better.
>> Yeah, because uh you got that haunted
[50:09]
trail that's going to help
>> Yeah.
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» some stuff.
[50:16]
Yeah.
Okay.
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Anything
council member?
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» Uh I saw on the sign when I was walking
in that there's a CBA public hearing
[50:29]
» on one of the days coming up.
>> 16th.
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» 16th. What's that?
>> There's a resident uh there's a resident
[50:36]
applying for a variance on their uh on
their fence. it was put up. Um Mel gave
[50:42]
them a stop work order um to which they
um asked for a variance as opposed to
[50:49]
you know they wanted to continue. Um so
uh
[50:52]
» just curious
>> uh yeah the
[50:54]
» I didn't know if it was something
>> the fence isn't supposed to be come into
[50:58]
your front yard and because they're a
corner lot they technically have two
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front yards. Um, so the the uh fence is
coming into the front yard of their
[51:06]
Henderson Street property and uh Mel
gave him a stop
[51:10]
» work order.
>> Yeah, just curious.
[51:13]
» Okay,
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so
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» laborer.
>> Good.
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» All right. Motion to
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