[0:04] all right it is 7 35 now i so apologize for this delay really appreciate

[0:10] everybody's patience i'm gonna call this meeting to order

[0:14] uh for

[0:17] the records for this meeting we did previously uh start the meeting doing

[0:23] the pledge of allegiance uh roll call and just barely getting

[0:27] into public comments but we are going to go back through roll call and then

[0:30] reopen public comments so rory will you take our role yes councilmember robinson

[0:35] here ghetto here brown here barry here and glover here

[0:41] thank you and before we get to public comments i'm going to actually our city

[0:44] manager matt dahl is going to say something here

[0:47] again thank you for your patience this evening

[0:49] for anyone who's listening to this recording or in this room

[0:54] the normal equipment that we use in order to

[0:57] broadcast this uh on the meeting online as well as to record it is having some

[1:02] technical difficulties this evening we will be posting online

[1:06] that we have these technical difficulties however we are still able

[1:10] to record through another method and at the earliest possible

[1:14] time we will post that recording online so everyone

[1:18] will be able to still hear this meeting

[1:21] so we'll make sure that it is still transparent and everyone has access to

[1:25] it but that's what we're going to do this evening and again i appreciate your

[1:28] patience thank you matt

[1:31] all right so now we'll move into public comments any person wishing to comment

[1:35] on any item not otherwise scheduled for a public hearing on the agenda may

[1:39] address the city council at this point by stepping to the microphone and giving

[1:42] their name

[1:48] hello i am allison and we are members of the keystone club

[1:52] at boys and girls club in midville we have been working on a community

[1:56] advocacy project focusing on the topic of covid 19 vaccinations

[2:02] as we go into the third year of the pandemic the biggest piece of advice

[2:06] that the public has been given is to keep up to date in receiving their kovit

[2:10] 19 vaccines and booster shots in order to protect themselves from getting sick

[2:16] as a county salt lake has done a great job of administering cover 19 vaccines

[2:21] with a 74.7 percent of residents receiving at

[2:25] least one dose and

[2:29] 63.67.3 percent of residents being fully vaccinated

[2:35] the cdc has made it clear that the most effective way of avoiding kova 19 is not

[2:40] only to be fully vaccinated but it's but it but to keep it update and receiving

[2:45] booster shots as well as different variants of kovan 19 beginning to

[2:49] develop and become stronger the standard two-dose vaccine begins to decrease in

[2:54] effectiveness and the booster shot is needed to to fight against new strains

[2:59] of the virus statistically speaking only 34.3 percent of salt lake county

[3:05] residents have received the coven 19 booster shop this is a huge part of the

[3:09] salt lake county population vulnerable at risk of contain contracting a coven

[3:14] 19 variant that can be determined to their health

[3:24] studies have shown that code 19 has disproportionately affected minority

[3:28] populations according to the cdc members of minority and lower income households

[3:32] are more are more likely to be hospitalized or die from cover 19. this

[3:36] is attributed to the many obstacles that marginalized communities

[3:40] face when trying to gain access to health care

[3:42] midwest city consists of 36 percent of minority or ethnic

[3:48] uh minor uh ethnic minorities with the median

[3:51] household of being sixty thousand these statistics show that many of the

[3:55] residents of midwell city are at risk of contracting the virus

[3:59] and are more at risk of hospitalization or death from the virus

[4:02] for many people living in lower income households with families or single

[4:06] parents getting to the doctor or clinic can be hard to do based on

[4:11] timing or location of the clinic

[4:13] for many people physical accessibility can be difficult if the clinic is not

[4:17] within walking distance we think it's important for there to be more vaccine

[4:21] clinics that are hosted in midfield neighborhoods

[4:23] close to the marginalized residents that live here

[4:27] it is especially important to make these accessible to those

[4:32] who don't have cars or any other means of transportation by locating them with

[4:36] locating them within walking distance these clinics should be open later into

[4:41] the evening to accommodate those who work more or work more than

[4:44] one job even work long hours

[4:47] this would help make this would help make it more possible

[4:51] for residents to receive the vaccinations especially the booster in

[4:54] order to prevent further hospitalizations and deaths in the

[4:58] midfield population

[5:05] the boys and girls club of midvale previously hosted a vaccine clinic for

[5:08] covid and back to school vaccines on friday april the 22nd it was very

[5:13] successful because we were able to get many people in the surrounding community

[5:17] to attend including those who live in the area around the club the location of

[5:21] our club makes us a great asset in helping people

[5:24] receive this life-saving vaccines because we are within walking distance

[5:28] of many homes apartments and even the road homes

[5:31] we feel that another clinic hosted by our club could be more

[5:35] successful if we can get access to more resources to reach out to the

[5:39] surrounding community and schools and help prevent the spread of kobe 19.

[5:44] we feel that with your help from you all as our local city council our next

[5:49] vaccine clinic can further benefit mid-rail city and further prevent the

[5:53] spread of cloven 19 in medveau

[5:59] thank you so much before you wrap that the individuals who

[6:04] spoke can you just step up and state your name into the microphone so we have

[6:07] it

[6:10] i'm allison

[6:14] i'm edgar i'm joe

[6:19] i'm your tc sir joe

[6:24] thank you all so much we really appreciate that information

[6:29] are there any other public comments if there are you can step up to the

[6:33] microphone and state your name

[6:37] okay seeing none i'll move on to council

[6:40] reports councilmember sperry

[6:43] i have nothing this evening mayor councilmember brown i have nothing

[6:46] council member robinson i have nothing to nightmare councilmember glover

[6:50] nothing to report councilmember ghetto uh keep him with the theme no i just

[6:54] want to mention i two weeks ago i did go to the

[6:57] st george utah league of cities and towns conference um not much to report

[7:02] from there it's much of the same many of the same workshops that we've

[7:06] all attended there's a housing crisis there's a labor shortage housing prices

[7:11] are going up they're going to keep going up

[7:14] uh the one good thing about going to that conference was uh just being able

[7:19] to meet with some of the other council members from neighboring cities and

[7:24] uh mayors and you know just kind of creating some bit of camaraderie amongst

[7:31] the neighboring cities so i do recommend going to that for that reason

[7:36] um i got to play cornhole with the salt lake city council members so you can't

[7:41] always say that you had a chance to do that um

[7:44] but anyway that's it for me tonight mayor thank you

[7:48] thank you uh for my report i've got a few

[7:53] quick things uh one just wanted to give a thank you to our city engineer keith

[7:58] and also steve bush who on 80th south we had a cut into the road

[8:03] due to construction there that we had a number of residents complaints about and

[8:07] they helped us get that filled in with dirt so thank

[8:10] you also our harvest days committee is fully

[8:13] assembled the last time we met we were just going uh had appointed the

[8:17] chair but last friday i believe they had their first meeting and so that is up

[8:22] and running uh also uh councilmember ghetto was there as well but attended

[8:28] the all caps uh arts conference which we helped fund over the weekend it was

[8:32] great to see that come into fruition and really excited about the arts festival

[8:37] in june uh the

[8:40] most important thing i wanted to note for tonight is with the overflow plan

[8:46] from house bill 440 we've talked about this bill quite a bit uh at this point

[8:51] where we are at is every city is being asked to come to the table to the uh

[8:55] conference of mayors uh with a potential location for an overflow shelter again

[9:01] this is uh where an overflow shelter needs to be in place by october 1st

[9:06] otherwise the state will step in and do it

[9:09] and the conference of mayors came together and said everybody will step

[9:12] forward with one location uh that site selection from midville has not been

[9:17] chosen and is very much the beginning process right now this was just decided

[9:21] thursday at the conference of mayors but as that goes along we'll keep you all

[9:27] updated uh that's all for me

[9:31] the next one is our city manager report but seeing that i'm sure he'll be back

[9:36] up here i can go on to department

[9:42] so i got stuff

[9:45] i don't know if you will be able to be heard online

[9:57] just real quickly i wanted to let everyone know that

[10:01] we had the first meeting of the harvest days committee last week uh we'll have

[10:04] another one this week and we'll start that regular schedule

[10:08] it seems like a really good group and

[10:11] we're really excited i think they have some ideas

[10:14] that will be new and unique in the group and or

[10:19] sorry uh for the event and um

[10:22] the other thing i guess is that uh i just want to apologize again to heidi

[10:26] because i had mistakenly not given her the information for last week's meeting

[10:29] but she's on it now and will be the official liaison with the council

[10:33] uh just want to let you know that that's

[10:36] off and running and that is the only thing i want to report on this evening

[10:38] how many members matt so there's um

[10:42] five members uh and then the chair that you approved

[10:46] last time um

[10:48] and uh and then heidi as the liaison in addition to that we also have

[10:53] um we'll have at least two staff members always attending those as well okay

[10:59] and we've had a few other uh volunteers folks who would like to help

[11:04] out in other ways that i've connected them with i just had

[11:07] an individual who's involved with latinos in action at hillcrest uh

[11:10] reached out to me and connected him with um

[11:14] molly who's our harvest day's chair and hopefully those are folks are all being

[11:19] brought into the process okay we'll move on to our department

[11:22] report uh public works department we'll hear from glenn

[11:31] good evening mayor council a few items to report on this evening

[11:37] i'll start with some of the not so fun stuff and then end with

[11:40] some progress park bathrooms

[11:43] opened up the very end of april beginning of may

[11:48] vandalism continues to be a a large issue

[11:52] upd and park staff are strategizing on ways to

[11:56] mitigate that but it continues to be a problem

[12:00] um jordan valley held their member agency meeting last week

[12:04] two big takeaways from that i guess attendees first keith ludwig city

[12:08] engineer myself curtis nielsen water manager or utilities manager

[12:14] west van valkenberg water lead attended in person i think matt and kyle

[12:19] attended online no okay

[12:22] the two takeaways from that meeting um much like this evening

[12:26] we had a uh rate increase that was more than we were

[12:31] expecting it will be plugged into the five-year

[12:34] model we think we can absorb it but it will not be presented in the

[12:38] tentative budget tonight correct

[12:42] the other takeaway uh is drought conditions

[12:46] we are in moderate drought conditions uh does not look like there will be

[12:53] any major constraints this year maybe similar to last year on some

[12:58] watering schedules but the water supply looks

[13:01] manageable uh

[13:05] keeping to the utilities theme curtis nelson our utilities manager put

[13:09] in his notice so we will be going through the hiring

[13:12] process there now to the progress

[13:17] we did get our fleet and facility portals online

[13:21] i believe you saw some some emails are you

[13:26] is council included on the all city mid email list

[13:32] i didn't look at that there's

[13:35] yeah so okay

[13:37] if you have not i will shoot it out

[13:40] um if there's any requests for facility maintenance needs or

[13:46] doesn't affect counselor mayor but if there's a fleet

[13:48] uh need will you click on the facilities

[13:53] no so this portal has been provided to all city employees upd the arts council

[14:00] where you can just click put in a uh when you go to find a request

[14:05] the magnifying glass to the left

[14:09] so these these are the ones that have already been entered

[14:12] it went live yesterday

[14:15] appreciate kate she was our uh

[14:19] first submittal and helped us work through a few issues uh but i think this

[14:23] is going to be really good in keeping communication

[14:27] and follow-up going um and we're excited to get it going a

[14:32] few kinks we're going to work this out for a few months internally

[14:35] and hopefully we can get a citizens portal out there

[14:39] for the citizens to use too but we want to make sure it's all working internal

[14:42] first so that is my report this evening

[14:46] are there any questions

[14:50] thank you thanks

[14:53] all right we'll move to our public hearing

[14:56] public hearing uh we've just got a double checking one item here on the

[15:01] public hearing uh public hearing to receive public

[15:05] comments on the midvale city fiscal year 2023 tentative budget beginning july 1st

[15:09] 2022 and ending ending june 30th 2023 is there a motion to open the public

[15:15] hearing mayor i move that we move into a public hearing second okay there's

[15:19] motion in a second uh any discussion

[15:23] all in favor yes

[15:26] okay that passes and we are in a public hearing go ahead mariah

[15:31] actually um before mariah starts um one thing i just

[15:35] wanted to clarify is that while

[15:39] the bulk of the work is done by mariah and christian and kyle in getting this

[15:45] document prepared getting the data putting it into a form that

[15:50] is is able to communicate the status of our

[15:53] budget and what our projections are for next year

[15:56] in the end the city manager is the budget officer for the city

[16:00] and so as we go through and discuss different items within the tentative

[16:05] budget some of those are going to be

[16:08] uh at my direction so i'll jump in at different times to sort of explain what

[16:12] the reasoning is if uh when you receive the tenant of

[16:15] budget you read the um the amazing pros that were put together for the budget

[16:20] message you'll see among other things that

[16:25] sort of our my goal as we were looking at the budget

[16:28] was to look at first maintaining basic services

[16:32] then making sure that we were moving forward with policies that would

[16:36] ensure staff retention um then it was looking at

[16:41] long-term capital projects and then finally dealing with the price increases

[16:44] that we have this year the inflation

[16:47] as we are all aware is is higher than it's been in 40 years and that has taken

[16:52] a toll on our budget so as we go through and talk about not just what is the

[16:56] status of our budget but what are some of the recommended changes that we have

[17:00] those are some of the guiding concepts that we use in putting those

[17:03] together um anyways i just i appreciate the work

[17:06] that the finance group has done in order to put this together

[17:10] and i'll jump back in as we get into some of those more

[17:15] philosophy driven decisions matt was worried about stepping on my

[17:19] toes and i said we're a team we got this together

[17:22] um so just an overview of what the tentative budget is and this is true now

[17:28] even more because of the workshop is that this is

[17:30] a draft of our estimated revenues and expenditures and i that is as of last

[17:36] tuesday because we had to have this document out seven days before the

[17:38] public hearing and so that was this is the information we had up into that

[17:42] point um attempted a budget is prevent

[17:45] presented for each of the city's funds you'll also see for the rda and the nba

[17:48] separately in those meetings tonight and then within each of those funds

[17:52] all the departments fall um and then this has like that said was

[17:57] prepared by the finance department with the city manager

[18:01] closely working with us and is officially been

[18:05] presented by the city's budget officer even though i'm going to be talking

[18:08] about it it's really coming from him and then a final budget will be proposed

[18:13] and adopted at a future meeting so that will change whether it's in june

[18:17] or if there's a property tax increase then that would be in august

[18:21] so here we go this in the general fund the

[18:25] total revenues that we are projecting is twenty three million eight hundred and

[18:29] fifty six thousand two hundred and forty five dollars this is a ten point nine

[18:32] percent increase from our amended fiscal year twenty two budget we get an until

[18:37] the nitty gritty of that in a little bit but

[18:40] that's proposed new ongoing funds of 2 million 268 thousand dollars

[18:45] 313 i'm gonna round and not say all those

[18:49] numbers um okay so that that does include the

[18:53] property tax increase we're proposing which i will talk more about in a future

[18:57] slide the available one-time funds which is the amount of

[19:01] uh fund balance that is over our fund balance that we're trying to keep

[19:06] in reserve which is 18 is 1.6 million dollars

[19:10] total expenditures is uh 25.4 million which is an 11 increase from the amended

[19:16] fiscal year 22 budget that our ongoing expenditures we've matched to our new

[19:20] ongoing funds and then our proposed one-time experiences expenditures are

[19:25] about fifty thousand dollars less than the one-time funds

[19:28] uh so here's a breakdown of the different types of uh budgeted

[19:33] revenue seventy percent taxes four percent license and permits fourteen

[19:37] percent intergovernmental nine percent charges for services

[19:41] four percent fines and fortuners and then a very tiny tiny miscellaneous

[19:45] section there um that's 16.6 million in taxes and 10.7 in sales tax and then um

[19:53] the sales tax is gen is 64 sales not sales tax all of the taxes 64 sales tax

[20:00] 20 property tax and so on

[20:04] um okay so for the taxes we're proposing a 10.5 overall increase with property

[20:11] taxes increasing 10.7 percent and sales tax increasing 12

[20:17] so you guys heard kyle talk about this in the workshop we originally

[20:21] projected 10 to be uh on our sales tax increase to be conservative and then

[20:26] have gone back for our financial policies and increased that to 12

[20:30] looking at our actuals that we think that that is still reasonable

[20:34] so our sales tax have a 1.1 million dollar increase and property taxes 284

[20:40] thousand dollars

[20:43] we're not proposing any changes in our permit and plan fees that's because

[20:48] community development is undergoing a fee study right now and so we'll wait

[20:50] until that's completed to address those fees

[20:54] and then we have a 22 increase in our intergovernmental revenues which is

[20:58] because of hb 440 we're getting an additional 445 thousand dollars for that

[21:04] um okay this is our slide on property tax

[21:08] increases so just for general growth we are originally uh

[21:12] proposing a 1.5 increase in our our property taxes

[21:16] um and then to meet our ongoing costs we were proposing a 9.1 percent

[21:22] increase in our property taxes so that would take us to

[21:25] 2 million 2.9 million from the 2.7 approximately that we were proposing

[21:30] this is a 245 000

[21:33] increase which is 9.1 it's approximately 17 for the average homeowner per year in

[21:38] midvale um and then to move forward with this you would instead of adopting the

[21:43] certified tax rate in june you would propose a tax rate increase which would

[21:47] then put us into the truth and taxation process

[21:53] go ahead we're a team guys see you sorry so um

[22:00] as we had spoken uh uh on in one-on-ones about um the potential property tax

[22:06] increase and how that um came to be um

[22:11] we i kept several things in mind as we were putting together this projection

[22:14] and i mentioned it at the beginning but just to sort of reiterate um we were

[22:18] really trying to say how do we keep basic services levels where they're at

[22:22] um then how do we retain staff

[22:26] then how do we address long-term capital projects which is really more than

[22:30] one-time money and then how do we deal with

[22:33] inflation and so as we looked at putting together the budget that got us to the

[22:38] proposed property tax increase if you look at the ongoing expenses on

[22:42] the left side of the screen there the first one is the upd assessment

[22:46] as we're now aware after the workshop this number is going

[22:50] to increase and we will be coming back to

[22:53] you with a plan on how we're going to address that but for this for the

[22:56] purposes of this as i talk about where we're at for this budget again i'm just

[23:00] going to be talking about sort of the numbers we know for certain that we're

[23:03] in the tentative budget and we'll be making some tweaks so

[23:06] the upd assessment whatever we essentially that vote is for that budget

[23:11] is what it's going to buy the upd board is what we're going to

[23:15] end up paying so that ends up becoming sort of a mandate

[23:18] um then we looked at fleet replacement as

[23:23] something that we were trying to address here by moving all of the fleet

[23:28] replacement contribution into ongoing funds

[23:31] because that's just good budgetary practice

[23:34] as you recall when covet hit we moved some of that into one-time funds as part

[23:39] of a way of shoring up the budget but

[23:42] we were trying this year to move that back into ongoing so that it becomes

[23:46] sort of fulfilling the best practices as far as budget budgeting goes

[23:50] then we get into sort of the actual budgetary

[23:55] service expansion items which is the employee merit market and cola increases

[24:00] which is 674 thousand dollars again this is a number um

[24:04] as we look at what the other uh cities are doing in the valley there

[24:09] is a range ranging from things uh proposals that are close to what we're

[24:13] proposing which is the eight percent cola one percent merit

[24:17] down to something maybe more around a five

[24:20] percent range the reason we decided uh to propose

[24:24] going with the eight percent uh cola one percent merit as we discussed at the

[24:28] budget retreat has to do with trying to help staff stay up with

[24:32] the inflationary increases that we're experiencing and

[24:36] trying to make sure that we don't have another year

[24:39] of losing a third of our staff

[24:42] because money is a primary one of the primary drivers that caused a lot of our

[24:45] turnover last year and so we're hoping that if we're able to keep up with the

[24:49] market we'll be able to have better staff

[24:52] retention this year which will allow us to again sort of maintain our basic

[24:55] services if we have that turnover like we did last year that does cut into our

[24:59] ability to provide those basic services then in addition to that uh the

[25:03] full-time prosecutor as we discussed at the budget retreat as well has to do

[25:07] with um we've made some changes in the

[25:10] organization regarding a lot of the process that we go through both in

[25:14] procurement just and our contract process this has

[25:17] put a lot of pressure on the legal department and in order to help with

[25:21] our efficiency and maintaining a manageable load for our

[25:25] attorneys we're looking at bringing in that

[25:28] full-time prosecutor and then the final sort of expansion item is the full-time

[25:33] parks technician again we're budgeting for half a year but this has to do with

[25:37] the fact that we'll have two parks coming on in the next budget year in the

[25:40] next fiscal year and um that's again a service expansion and we want to make

[25:44] sure that we have the staff available so that there isn't a decline

[25:48] in the service level at the other parks so

[25:51] just in quick recap of what i was saying there is that as we look at it we have a

[25:55] mandate in the updated assessment we have a budgetary decision

[26:00] with regards to how we handle the fleet replacement and then the other three

[26:04] items are really about service expansion now there are a few

[26:07] other items in the budget that we would have the ability to tweak but it's

[26:12] around fourteen thousand dollars of the remaining general fund increases would

[26:17] be considered budget uh service expansion the rest of them fall into

[26:21] sort of mandate categories or things that we can't change

[26:24] the reason i'm bringing all this up is that as we look at that property tax

[26:27] increase and we look at what we have available to

[26:30] make changes on our options are relatively limited and would have a

[26:34] significant impact

[26:37] we'll we'll continue on with with the presentation but we just wanted to make

[26:40] sure that it was clear and then one other thing that i said i was going to

[26:44] say uh as well that i forgot to mention is that if we were to look at this

[26:48] from the perspective of um you know where do we have the most

[26:52] flexibility in addressing the increase in adjusting what we proposed here is

[26:57] that would probably start with the fleet replacement contribution

[27:00] um however

[27:02] the last thing on that before i turn it back to the to the to the pro on the

[27:05] budget is uh clearly

[27:08] what happened uh the new information we got in the workshop is going to have a

[27:11] significant impact on this yeah before that the fleet replacement

[27:15] was like a really like good thing to have and now it just it doesn't mean

[27:18] quite as much though the things that we fund one time

[27:22] are we we fund grants and harvest days with one time money and then our our

[27:26] capital project funding which uh we can talk about more a little bit later

[27:31] um here are a breakdown of the expenditures

[27:35] by in the general fund by department and then type um so in both sections uh upd

[27:42] is clearly the bulk they are in public safety on the left and our

[27:47] contracted services on the right and then

[27:52] that number is outdated because last year they were 44 and this year they

[27:56] were set to be 45.5 but that is not an outdated number

[28:01] um the okay moving into the debt service

[28:05] fund this is a new fund kyle created last year makes things easier any debt

[28:09] that was previously accounted for in the general fund

[28:12] is now in our debt service fund so we have our 2017 sales tax bonds

[28:17] the lease payment to the mba from the city and then the chd parking structure

[28:21] loan all come out of there okay here's the capital projects fund

[28:25] again so we've discussed this you guys a few times the the projects on the right

[28:30] hand side of the screen the sales tax and the hb 244 money they come into the

[28:35] general fund but they are specifically earmarked for those um

[28:39] projects and so they're not included when we discuss our one-time money and

[28:43] the funds that we can that we can use for city projects and

[28:48] then the list is the one i think you've seen a few times we have 1.14 million

[28:53] dollars of one-time money for city building improvements our mural program

[28:57] facility maintenance swimming pool seed money

[29:00] the public works building renovation study park improvements cemetery

[29:05] improvements main street utility upgrades for union corridor community

[29:09] gardens and holiday lights

[29:13] okay in the water fund i told kyle as i was looking at his presentation last

[29:18] year i'm much i'm much happier giving this

[29:21] presentation for the water fund than what you guys had to deal with last year

[29:23] because they have completed the five-year comprehensive financial

[29:26] sustainability plan and uh made adjust and they budgeted with that in mind so

[29:32] they completed that with last fiscally uh

[29:35] with adjustments for fiscal year 21 and 22 actuals um and other things to note

[29:41] is that they this budget is prepared assuming that the water fund and the

[29:44] super fund will bond this fiscal year to cover capital expenditures included in

[29:49] the cfsp and then the water budget also includes

[29:52] about 2 million in arpa funds so here's a look at the revenues there's

[29:57] an 81 increase that's because of the bonds and the arpa funds in the revenues

[30:03] other things to note there's a 15 percent increase in our user charges uh

[30:07] consumption consumption is increasing by 22 all of this is built into the

[30:12] uh financial sustainability plan that you guys have seen and approved so it

[30:16] just kind of goes in line with that um for the largest expenses in the water

[30:20] fund there's that similar eight percent cola

[30:24] one percent merit in the water fund that's seventy thousand dollars um the

[30:28] wholesale water contract is increasing by 120 000.

[30:32] is that the one that's changing that's that will be increased um

[30:36] is it and i think we have eight percent and it's coming at 11 and a half

[30:43] okay um

[30:45] and then other inflationary operate increases throughout the

[30:49] fund for 35 000 uh and then the water master plan projects

[30:53] that are bonded for 5.3 million and the bond issuance costs which are 106 000

[31:00] similarly the sewer budget was prepared per the five-year cfsp

[31:05] and um is also assumed that it will bond for uh capital expenditures and then

[31:10] also to help fund the capital projects for uh south valley

[31:15] um so 39 increase similarly because of the bonds um and then a 10 increase in

[31:21] user charges here

[31:25] for the largest expenses this all looks going to look very similar and a lot of

[31:29] these enterprise funds uh there's the merit and cola increases um an increase

[31:35] to south valleys operating and capital inflationary operating increases

[31:39] throughout the department um the purchase of a trash pump and tv

[31:43] transporter and then bought bondage issuance costs of 30 000 in the sewer

[31:48] fund um for the stormwater fund uh

[31:52] there that says water master plan there's the

[31:56] stormwater master plan and raid study that was funded in fiscal year 2021

[32:01] we're still waiting on some gis data so that hasn't begun yet and will likely

[32:05] begin in fiscal year 23 so because of that

[32:09] we're not doing any rate increases or anything like that in the stormwater

[32:12] fund and just are putting a three percent general growth increase into our

[32:15] charges for services for the revenues for the stormwater expenses

[32:21] here we go again with the merit and cola increases

[32:25] for this fund there is a some uh additional requests for education and

[32:30] certification for our staff in this fund

[32:35] and then there are fleet charges of 35 000 actually the stormwater didn't

[32:39] couldn't fund couldn't fully absorb the fleet charges that were

[32:44] meant to be assigned to it this year so that those

[32:47] have been cut down in the street lighting fund

[32:52] no rate increase is recommended and a growth three percent increase for

[32:57] charges for services and then the largest expenses are uh the

[33:02] maritime cola increases which is one thousand dollars so that's not very

[33:06] large that's uh like i said not very big changes in this and then there is an

[33:09] increase for street light repair of ten thousand dollars um i was going to also

[33:14] note that the the payments for the street light

[33:17] upgrade which is about 211 000

[33:21] will conclude in 2024 and so we'll be revisiting with you guys uh in the

[33:26] future about what to do with that money or if we're cutting rates or that sort

[33:30] of thing in the sanitation fund

[33:34] we are recommending an increase of 3.5 uh the ace contract and tipping fees

[33:40] were 7.1 percent increase so that rate increase does not cover

[33:44] um our contract increases and so we'll need

[33:48] to use fund balance to cover that this year and then we're

[33:51] including a 4.4.6 growth increase in charges for services

[33:56] and this budget we also have this fund our merit and cola increases as well as

[33:59] in this budget is our glass and dumpster mural and leaf program

[34:06] for the fleet fund uh as matt noted the fleet

[34:10] replacement charges that come from the departments into this fund are ongoing

[34:15] and they've actually they decreased 4.7 percent overall this year from a

[34:19] previous year we also have

[34:22] mayor and cola increases in this fund uh inflationary

[34:26] operating increases um our gas and things are purchased out

[34:30] of this fund and then uh we're having an increase in

[34:35] in vehicle insurance and then uh replacements and uh of an additional

[34:41] vehicle purchases and equipment is a budgeted for 571 thousand so that's kind

[34:45] of if we didn't have this fund and we needed to replace vehicles that we would

[34:49] have to come up with that 571 thousand dollars but because we pay into this

[34:53] year to year little by little one then we can cover that and not have to come

[34:57] up with that money in the it fund all department charges

[35:03] decreased uh they decreased about 29 000 in revenue for the it fund

[35:07] um and then we are transferring from the general fund two hundred thousand

[35:11] dollars as this is a it's a part of the capital conversations that we've had but

[35:16] it's for the software initiative it's a really long title kyle

[35:21] says it flawlessly but a software initiative program that we've done

[35:26] the largest expenses in the it fund this year is we've got server and switch

[35:29] replacements uh on the docket as well as because uh gis moved from engineering to

[35:36] i.t and we're buoying them up so that we can do the stormwater uh stuff then we

[35:42] are getting them some additional equipment and software

[35:45] questions

[35:48] i appreciate you putting this together i was trying to find like a relevant

[35:53] number to

[35:56] to sort of explain how much money we don't necessarily have to work with or

[35:59] play with you know and uh musk buying

[36:03] twitter is a number everyone's sort of hurt you know 44 billion right so if he

[36:08] were to donate all that money to midvale he could fund our city for 1800 years

[36:13] right which is a crazy thing to think about right and that's the difference

[36:17] between sort of millions and billions so i appreciate you know the work to try to

[36:21] make everything work um i just hope all the entities

[36:25] recognize you know that that's there's a serious constraint you know on on money

[36:30] and we don't have elon musk's money to make that work

[36:34] but i appreciate it thank you

[36:38] could you um or maybe matt you mentioned um

[36:44] reducing our cola is that what you

[36:48] said when you interjected briefly for uh

[36:52] city staff employees uh

[36:55] cola and meri i no so um what i had said is if you could

[37:00] go back to that slide absolutely um is that as we look at the general

[37:05] fund and because the budgetary issues that we're facing as far as the increase

[37:10] that we're seeing from upd is ongoing money we want to use try to find a way

[37:16] to use ongoing money to address that now that uh the one way of doing that is

[37:21] creating ongoing money by doing a property tax increase which is what

[37:25] we're recommending um and then uh beyond that would be to

[37:29] reduce some other amount of ongoing funding

[37:34] um when again this is before the workshop

[37:37] today we were just saying that um the because the upd assessment is a

[37:42] mandate the next one item that we would

[37:45] recommend potentially

[37:48] reducing would be the fleet replacement contribution but that gets us into the

[37:52] budgetary issue of using

[37:56] one-time money for ongoing and then if we looked at just straight

[38:01] ongoing funding that's the merit full-time

[38:04] prosecutor and full-time parks technician but really what

[38:08] again based off of before tonight what we're saying is we

[38:12] believe that these three things are necessary in order for us to meet

[38:17] the needs of the community and are not recommending that they that

[38:21] these would be cut they can they're within your purview to cut but we're not

[38:25] recommending that we would do that because we believe it would impact the

[38:28] services provided to the community so you just mentioned that as a

[38:33] possibility okay it caught my ear just because as i mentioned to you in the

[38:37] past you know i consider every city employee just as important as our police

[38:43] staff as well you know we all provide a service so i wouldn't want to cut any

[38:47] amount of money from that in order to in order to meet that new upd assessment

[38:53] so hopefully we can stick to that and not cut from the employee mayor i mean

[38:58] we've seen as many if not more of our city staff

[39:03] uh turn over as we have you know police officers turn over so they're equally as

[39:09] important to me and i just hope that we can keep that money in the budget for

[39:13] police and for city staff i guess the question i had

[39:19] was just as being able to see what kind of cuts

[39:22] if we cut one percent of the marine cola what

[39:29] what how much money would we actually raise uh 73 500 and 20 70 3 523

[39:37] for each percent yes okay and just a quick note i wouldn't recommend deleting

[39:42] the fleet replacement contribution we would just move it to one time

[39:46] uh and then might need to adjust our capital project funding that way but

[39:51] yeah i would just recommend moving it to one time from ongoing it's just nice to

[39:56] be able to know i'm not saying we do it

[39:59] it's nice to be able to look at it and say if we did this this is how much we

[40:02] would raise really quickly i saw a hand up back here

[40:08] as soon as the the council is done discussing we'll open it up for public

[40:12] comment where somebody can step up perfect yep

[40:17] what frustrates me is our funding source for upd in the city is the same right it

[40:21] comes from taxes right they're technically

[40:26] they should be just considered mid-vale employees right and so um they should

[40:31] feel the same sort of rewards and pains that midvale city

[40:34] employees have when dealing with raises or cuts because

[40:39] it's kind of hard for me to hear um you know hey we need these races to keep

[40:43] things going have someone on city staff work on the budget that maybe doesn't

[40:47] get that same sort of raise um i think it's an inappropriate thing to

[40:52] do right because it's all coming from the

[40:54] same the same area

[40:57] right so um you know if there is a tax raise i

[41:00] i'd rather just have it spread evenly between all of the what i would consider

[41:05] mid-vale employees and not this idea that um

[41:09] you know one entity gets it more than others i think that would if i worked

[41:13] for midvale full-time i would be very offended

[41:16] and feel like a second-class unit and so

[41:20] i'm guessing there probably is people that do and they don't want to say that

[41:23] which is fine i can say it um

[41:27] and so it's just something we should keep in mind and i hopefully everyone

[41:30] else you know i would like to people that ask

[41:33] for huge budget increases to stay for budget meetings right opposed to leave i

[41:37] think that's also inappropriate um because we're talking about this and

[41:42] they're part of it and they're the biggest ask

[41:44] so um you know it's a mandate which i i don't

[41:48] love because we don't really get to make a choice but

[41:51] um there's just a professional way to handle things and

[41:54] i i wish they were here to to continue this discussion

[42:02] any other comments from the council

[42:06] okay thank you mariah all right now we'll now open this public

[42:12] hearing to the public if there's anybody in the

[42:15] audience who would like to address the council you can just step forward to the

[42:18] microphone and state your name

[42:26] my question is about the budget i saw that there was over a million

[42:30] dollars going to the upd and where necessarily are these

[42:34] funds going to i heard that there was

[42:38] a service budget talk but are these going to

[42:44] directly the officers or i just want to know where they're going

[42:49] sure i think what is the percentage it's 80 percent to compensation 85.

[42:55] so that's the

[43:03] sorry could you give your name yo tc thank you

[43:07] so we um right now the current budget we've got about

[43:10] we'll call it 10 million dollars that goes towards upd

[43:14] that covers sort of essentially two different things one of them being our

[43:17] precinct here in midvale and um the majority of the the funds go towards

[43:24] that but then we also have what are called shared services where all of the

[43:28] member communities in upd are able to share in those services

[43:32] so that's going to be swot the mental health unit

[43:36] violent crimes unit and others

[43:40] and um and so we all pay a share of that

[43:45] and uh so this million dollar increase that's being proposed as part of this

[43:49] budget is saying we'll go from 10 million dollars to the 11 million

[43:53] dollars and then those funds will the increase will mainly go towards

[43:58] those shared services um and there is some additional increase

[44:02] that is going to the precinct and are these services equally divided

[44:06] or is there like a particular

[44:10] focus in the shared services or is it just

[44:14] equal they're not equally divided amongst the

[44:18] services and the way that the funding is

[44:22] the way that they determine what the fees are for each community is based off

[44:25] of a formula that has to do with the number of cases population and value

[44:32] with unified police department there are a number of cities that contract with

[44:36] them midville does not have a midvale city police department so we contract

[44:40] with unified police department along with

[44:43] a number of other cities communities and so as matt was saying with that

[44:47] formula so our share of it is about 18 so any as they come up with their budget

[44:53] they hand us

[44:55] a bill for 18 of that total cost and that is what

[45:00] what they've given us this year is about a million more than what we've been

[45:03] budgeting okay that's all thank you

[45:08] thank you for the question are there any other

[45:12] public comments on this item

[45:16] okay mayor i move that we close the public hearing

[45:20] second okay there's a motion in the second any

[45:23] discussion all those in favor

[45:27] yes any against

[45:30] i just wanted to thank the individual for coming up and speaking the budget

[45:34] itself is complex the whole situation is even hard for us up here to

[45:39] sort of understand uh i think it's super cool that you you

[45:42] know i think if i were in your shoes i would just be playing on my phone not

[45:45] paying attention so i think it's great that you came up to ask questions and

[45:49] we're engaging i think you know i i love that so thank you completely agree

[45:55] all right is there

[45:57] uh well first of all before we get to the action on this because the tentative

[46:02] would change do we need to do any sort of

[46:05] amending language to this are we just still adopted as is

[46:09] we just adopted as it is and we'll be making adjustments this is

[46:15] uh to the mayor's question about do we need

[46:18] to make any adjustments tonight just as a reminder the tenant of budget is a

[46:20] starting point every year changes are made between the tentative and the final

[46:24] we'll continue to adjust the budget over the next few meetings and but for

[46:29] tonight it would just be and it's as is born

[46:32] thank you is there a motion to approve resolution

[46:35] 2022 r19

[46:39] mayor i move that we adopt resolution 2022 r19 adopting the midvale city

[46:44] tentative budget beginning july 1st 2022 and ending june

[46:48] 30th 2023 there's a motion is there a second

[46:52] second there's a motion and a second any discussion

[46:57] rory we call roll yes councilmember sperry hi glover oh yeah robertson hi

[47:02] brown no and ghetto yes

[47:08] okay that passes thank you okay moving on to the consent agenda we

[47:13] have two items consider minutes of april 19 2022 and set date and time june 7

[47:18] 2022 at 7 pm for a public hearing to receive public comments and consider

[47:23] adoption of the midvale city fiscal year 2023 budget beginning july 1st 2022 and

[47:28] ending june 30th 2023 including salaries and statutory

[47:33] and elective officers employees and other positions

[47:37] within the city as well as the fiscal year 2022 midvale city municipal fees

[47:41] schedule including utility rates is there a motion to accept the consent

[47:46] agenda may i move that we accept the consent agenda

[47:50] second okay we have a motion in a second is there any discussion mayor i just

[47:54] have one question on the consent agenda for

[47:58] the um discussion well the action item that we

[48:01] voted on the redistricting last time it did say in the minutes

[48:06] that the motion passed unanimously and i think we should

[48:11] note that it was not unanimous thank you

[48:16] in the minutes thank you

[48:27] okay all right

[48:30] so this will be rory i'll ask you to call

[48:32] roll with the amendments that dustin councilmember

[48:36] glover aye robertson aye brown yes ghetto yes and

[48:41] sperry aye okay that passes

[48:44] thank you moving on to our discussion items item a discuss award of the 2022

[48:49] to 2027 concrete replacement contract to quicksilver concrete keith

[48:55] thank you and good evening mayor and council members and

[48:59] our amazing senior staff members thank you

[49:03] every year you budget some monies to go toward

[49:06] concrete replacement i lose track of how many years i've done

[49:11] this umpteen number of years like i said this is typically done

[49:15] through a budget process we

[49:18] have a third party consultant do that work for us

[49:22] we do this in order to replace any damaged and broken curb gutter sidewalk

[49:27] and also to work on updating sidewalk ramps

[49:31] we typically target areas where we're going to do an asphalt

[49:34] mill and overlay because as part of that that work we're

[49:38] required to update any sidewalk cram so we go in an

[49:42] area that we're going to melanoblade and try to take care of that

[49:47] so this year we our contract

[49:52] expired so we put out for a new multi-year contract

[49:56] we received six proposals

[50:00] all of them fairly competent

[50:04] well i would say all of them very competent contractors

[50:09] there was an evaluation committee put together by our procurement officer

[50:13] consisting of myself steve bush my engineering manager

[50:17] susan stangle the procurement officer and tom brown who was with galloway

[50:24] engineering and who helped us put this project together and came up with specs

[50:28] and plans

[50:31] the evaluation committee independently looked at each of the proposals that

[50:35] were submitted without any dollar information

[50:40] we evaluated the approach the experience of the company and their

[50:45] personnel and then demonstrated track record of similar

[50:49] projects after that evaluation was done

[50:53] susan combined all those scores and then added in the

[50:58] the bid prices and came up with the final scoring for each of the six

[51:02] i've included in the packet bid abstract showing all the proposer all

[51:08] the bids their unit prices and then their total bid

[51:12] along with the evaluation evaluation sheet

[51:16] so that you can see how each one of the

[51:20] bidders came out after that evaluation quicksilver was

[51:24] selected as the contractor

[51:29] we've worked with quicksilver concrete before in fact for the last several

[51:32] years they've been doing this project for us

[51:35] documents and and agreements and everything have been

[51:40] vetted and reviewed by our legal department along

[51:44] with our procurement officer so we felt fairly confident

[51:49] that what we did was above board and perfectly legal

[51:55] in a couple weeks i will have a resolution

[51:58] for your consideration and action on having

[52:02] the mayor signed an agreement with quicksilver concrete for

[52:06] the next five years of this project any questions i can help with

[52:14] okay thank you very much

[52:23] okay all right moving on to our second

[52:26] discussion item discussion of effective date of newly adopted district map

[52:31] lisa our city attorney

[52:36] thank you all for coming

[52:40] really exciting stuff so on april 19th uh you all passed a new

[52:46] map indicating district boundaries uh based on the

[52:50] uh consent

[52:53] the census uh

[52:55] that came out after that there was some question as to

[52:59] its effective date and

[53:02] you asked us to ensure that the residents understand

[53:09] who their representative is currently and to establish

[53:13] how the 2023 elections would occur

[53:18] you asked us to to

[53:20] bring it before you to discuss when the new district map would be

[53:26] effective so we did some checking and found that no one knows

[53:33] when these are supposed to be effective um

[53:37] i i spoke with the representative from the county clerk's office and their

[53:42] election division and they gave us some they gave me some pretty clear guidance

[53:47] mayor stevenson spoke to the deputy

[53:54] county clerk and

[53:56] he received similar information as i did so we have that guidance to pass along

[54:03] to you however

[54:08] it appears that you may talk to someone different and get a different

[54:11] response uh rory sent out an email to other cities who just passed their new

[54:18] district map and um received different information than the

[54:22] guidance we received so the guidance we received is that

[54:27] the district map

[54:30] would take effect the january the swearing-in of the new district newly

[54:35] elected council member

[54:39] who ran under the new district map so it'd be january 2nd of 2024 when that

[54:45] person is sworn in that's when the new district map would take effect so

[54:50] that would be january of 2024 since we don't have a municipal election until

[54:54] 2023 in addition to that

[54:58] the person

[55:02] who the person who runs in 2023 for

[55:07] districts one two and three would

[55:10] be under the new district map

[55:14] residency requirements and um

[55:19] uh that they would be they would be there they would be uh

[55:24] under the constituents of the new district map so that's they would uh

[55:29] seek election from the new district map

[55:33] residents additionally if they can if a council

[55:37] member who is uh running who is in in currently

[55:42] uh on the council for districts one two and

[55:47] would be considered the incumbent that is the the direction i was given from

[55:51] the county clerk uh however rory uh

[55:56] sent out the email and murray and i think mill creek yes both

[56:01] did new district maps and theirs were effective

[56:05] the date they essentially the date they they

[56:08] adopted them so i am

[56:11] here to let you discuss and ask questions if you have any as far

[56:16] as how what you would like it it there is no

[56:19] um direction or statute

[56:22] that requires us to have an effective date for the map

[56:27] or gives us any idea what that should be so it is your decision

[56:32] what you would like to do

[56:35] can i just add really quickly in my conversations with the deputy clerk

[56:39] there was i was told they would look into it

[56:43] further to make sure that they didn't miss anything

[56:46] there was another language there that gives better direction but as lisa said

[56:50] currently it's up in the air for everyone

[56:55] having said that i've gone through this before

[56:58] and the question never came up yeah

[57:03] yeah right it just like we just floated along and what the election came the new

[57:08] map took

[57:10] over right

[57:14] so i don't know the the interesting thing

[57:16] about that we looked into when this was done it was it was passed in 2013.

[57:22] uh that's when you the council adopted a

[57:26] new district map which

[57:30] would have been a municipal election so

[57:33] so yeah so i think it was done right before the election and it just took

[57:38] effect but i don't i don't know yeah it's like

[57:42] again i don't know i just know the question i've been through this and the

[57:45] question absolutely never came up it just seems logical that it should be

[57:52] if not effective immediately it should be i don't even know why you have to

[57:56] wait until the next year you know the next calendar year or

[58:01] the next election you know we passed a map and that you know just like any

[58:06] other ordinance that we pass it's effective when we vote in a majority and

[58:11] the mayor signs that ordinance so i don't i don't understand why

[58:17] especially the 2024 date that just does not make sense to me whatsoever well i

[58:23] and i can explain you know the how it was

[58:26] explained to me is that in in the state election

[58:32] the state map doesn't take effect until january of 2023

[58:38] and but the the people who are running for

[58:41] the new districts are running under the new map but it doesn't take effect until

[58:46] the new person is who is elected for that

[58:49] district takes office the the um public policy

[58:54] uh reason that we thought that it made sense to take effect in january 2024

[59:00] because it allows the the longest period of time for

[59:04] the council member to rem to be

[59:08] in office that for the constituents who elected them

[59:13] i mean the map's only purpose is for voting right like i don't get special

[59:16] privilege voting or anything correct right so to it only makes sense for

[59:20] during a voting cycle right like we could pass it today it doesn't do

[59:23] anything right there's no action from it so the only logical thing would be when

[59:28] voting would come up even for those you know for those people right so

[59:32] i i mean it doesn't matter we can do either one but to say

[59:35] only one of them is logical the other one doesn't do anything right it's just

[59:40] a fluffy uh we can say our maps changed

[59:43] you know boundaries but you know the end of the day i take

[59:47] a call two or three calls a day from district five right and i don't push

[59:52] them off because they're my friends um

[59:55] and and so like like you know i think for the sake of

[1:00:02] you know we do have a municipal election in 2023

[1:00:05] and my biggest concern is and i spoke to um

[1:00:10] county clerk swenson about this directly um you know when i

[1:00:16] i got a voter registration card in the mail once and i don't know if everyone

[1:00:19] else did that maybe but you know when the state passed their maps they sent

[1:00:25] out new voter registration cards because a lot of people you know their senators

[1:00:29] or house district changed under city council for me and for others

[1:00:34] it says pending because our maps are not settled

[1:00:39] sherry swenson indicated that at the whenever we

[1:00:44] submit our maps to them they're going to send people voter registration cards

[1:00:48] that are going to match what we passed so i think it just

[1:00:53] to prolong it to 2024 just creates too much confusion in my mind and especially

[1:00:58] since we have a municipal election next year you know there's going to be a

[1:01:02] significant population that is in district 5 who will switch to district 2

[1:01:08] therefore they would be eligible to run for election in 2023

[1:01:13] there's also a tiny sliver of population in

[1:01:17] district 4 that would be change over to district 3 which then

[1:01:22] also would be eligible to run for election so

[1:01:26] i think we should make it effective if you want to wait until january

[1:01:30] whatever 2023 that makes the most sense so that people

[1:01:34] are running in the district that we you know they

[1:01:38] have been told that they live in so

[1:01:42] okay because i wouldn't want to create the

[1:01:44] confusion for someone who thinks that these because they live in district

[1:01:49] 5 until 2024 if that's the way we went you know they might not think that they

[1:01:54] can run for election in 2023 even though they would

[1:01:59] be eligible because they would be in district 2.

[1:02:03] right and that was part of the reason of of bringing this forward and and um

[1:02:09] getting something definitive so that people understood either way whatever

[1:02:13] but it sounds like they're going to get new registration cards no matter what we

[1:02:17] do if we say 23 or 24

[1:02:21] we're still going to get registration cards that say

[1:02:24] you know the part of my district 5 that becomes district 2 is going to get a

[1:02:28] cart that says they're in district 2. yes

[1:02:31] and and as as councilman brown those are used when they vote

[1:02:36] and so yeah i i totally whatever the council wants to do is it's

[1:02:41] because there's no law telling us what we have to do so it's up to you

[1:02:45] guys but what we do have to do is write up

[1:02:48] the resolution that would come the next time and so

[1:02:51] um i've

[1:02:54] to the extent that we can get a guidance from the

[1:02:57] full members that are sort of pointing in the direction of the group that would

[1:03:00] be helpful in being able to prepare that yes

[1:03:04] i would say 2023 then january of 2023 is that one the counties

[1:03:10] take back yes

[1:03:14] yes because they have elections this year

[1:03:19] does that sound is that okay if we have this map going to effect january of 2023

[1:03:26] can i ask a question it's still okay for us to send the map

[1:03:30] to the county clerk and they are still going to be sending out the cards

[1:03:34] correct okay so make sure

[1:03:39] yes thank you

[1:03:44] councilmember sperry it really looks like i know

[1:03:47] i mean when it takes a fact as long as it's clear right i mean i

[1:03:51] think they're somebody else that probably has a bigger concern of it all

[1:03:54] but as long as it

[1:03:57] i mean that's my thing as long as it's clear so everybody knows right

[1:04:01] i just wouldn't want us to run into the problem you know

[1:04:05] next year when there are municipal elections and people wondering what

[1:04:09] district they live in for the purposes of voting for one thing but also for

[1:04:14] those who may wish to run for an elected office as well

[1:04:18] well that's why we just have to make it clear but that's where you said the

[1:04:21] state i mean the state already does that right where it's kind of delayed until

[1:04:26] yeah but theirs is being delayed by like three months not like 15 months

[1:04:32] that's the difference with ours

[1:04:39] so uh is would it be okay if i bring back a resolution

[1:04:43] for january 2023 sure is that okay and and does anyone

[1:04:49] have any objection if i put that on the consent agenda

[1:04:53] no no thank you lisa

[1:04:58] all right moving to our last discussion item city council annual goals review

[1:05:04] and update from matt dahl the city manager

[1:05:24] okay um so as you'll recall last year was really

[1:05:28] the first year that we put together annual strategic goals

[1:05:34] for the city and i think through that process and through the course of the

[1:05:38] last year i think we've learned some things we wanted to come back and talk

[1:05:40] to you about them i'm going to talk to you about our current goals a proposed

[1:05:44] set of goals but in the end what we're going to be doing is for the next

[1:05:47] workshop at the next meeting is we will be adding

[1:05:51] um a discussion item on there to go into

[1:05:54] these goals more in depth and so we could definitely talk about

[1:05:58] them tonight get some direction on all that

[1:06:00] but this is going to be a continued process that we're going to work on with

[1:06:04] hopefully the goal of getting it ready so we can put it in the final budget

[1:06:08] just as a quick reminder the reason that we're doing these goals is that it helps

[1:06:11] us with resource allocation both throughout the year but also as

[1:06:14] part of the budget process helps with communication both internally and

[1:06:19] externally so that both

[1:06:22] our staff and residents know what it is the council is sort of

[1:06:25] looking at as far as our goals go and then the next

[1:06:30] part of it is empowerment particularly to staff so that they have the

[1:06:36] the knowledge confidence and support of the council as we move forward with

[1:06:40] projects that support your goals and then finally is accountability

[1:06:44] one of the primary ways that we've in this last year showing accountability is

[1:06:47] coming back we've done uh we did two uh

[1:06:52] regular year reports on the progress that we made on the goals and then we

[1:06:56] did a report in the uh in the budget retreat and then we will

[1:07:01] do a final year-end wrap-up of the 2022 goals and the progress that we made on

[1:07:05] those i think one of the things as far as the

[1:07:08] account of well i'll talk about that i guess a little bit so as we look at the

[1:07:12] current goals um the

[1:07:14] current goals are broken up into sort of four categories one is organizational

[1:07:17] goals currently that means like trying to get back to normal as you recall last

[1:07:21] year when we set those goals we were still in

[1:07:25] fairly heavy

[1:07:28] restrictions and uh we were operating sort of uh in a

[1:07:32] non-normal way uh in the city and we've been trying to

[1:07:35] move towards uh normalization we've we have uh

[1:07:39] i think addressed that and gotten to that point so we're talking about

[1:07:42] removing that goal but that's an example of one of the organizational goals in

[1:07:46] addition to that we have neighborhood goals as part of them so those are going

[1:07:48] to be ones where we have a specific goal that relates to a neighborhood so for

[1:07:52] example redevelop main street then we have community goals which are sort of

[1:07:55] these broader goals about

[1:08:01] increasing the health of the community or

[1:08:03] putting in more active transportation and then finally long-term capital

[1:08:07] projects this often most often in the goals was referring to

[1:08:10] like our water system and making those improvements now the reason i'm showing

[1:08:14] this as sort of that breakdown is that as we look at

[1:08:18] um maybe adjusting the goal some

[1:08:21] is is there a reason that we would want to maybe focus more on sort of the

[1:08:24] community goals or are is this group more interested in some of the more

[1:08:29] specific projects that you guys have talked about

[1:08:31] we'll get into that a little into a little bit more once we get into the

[1:08:34] discussion side of things

[1:08:38] so i won't read through all of these uh you're familiar with them we've talked

[1:08:42] about them every time i've i've done one of the updates on them but right now for

[1:08:45] fiscal year 22 we have 14 goals

[1:08:50] they range from the categories that i previously mentioned um we have made uh

[1:08:56] good progress in some of these categories uh and then some of them uh

[1:09:00] we did not make as good a progress and we've kind of reported on on why that

[1:09:04] was but one of the big things i think we

[1:09:08] realized throughout this process is that really

[1:09:11] if you look at those 14 goals in some ways it sort of says

[1:09:15] they say combined they say do what a city does

[1:09:19] which doesn't necessarily give us a significant level of either

[1:09:22] prioritization or necessarily a directive vision

[1:09:28] for the city that would allow us to

[1:09:32] that sort of staff sort of feels like they know what the vision is that the

[1:09:36] council is trying to project now that doesn't mean that each of these aren't

[1:09:39] good goals it's just that's kind of of how that sort of ends up

[1:09:44] um so like i said i won't go through all

[1:09:48] those however so what we try to do is maybe come up with way of

[1:09:53] consolidating those goals in a way that um

[1:09:57] it helps us kind of zero in on things a little bit now as soon as i say that i'm

[1:10:00] going to counter exactly what i just said so does that mean i'm arguing with

[1:10:04] myself up here probably

[1:10:07] so we try to consolidate the goals down so at least there weren't as many of

[1:10:10] them but even in trying to do this which still captures the original 14 goals but

[1:10:15] just kind of a different way it still sort of says

[1:10:19] let's do the things that a city does and so

[1:10:23] just real quickly right now this proposed list would ensure

[1:10:27] midvale city is safe for the entire community and workforce as we look at

[1:10:30] that that would be trying to focus again on the 7200 south corridor as well as

[1:10:34] other things you know kind of into that category goal

[1:10:37] two enhance the appearance of public and private property through investment

[1:10:40] incentives and uh enforcement this both covers sort of the idea of looking at

[1:10:46] using the tools we have to encourage the public to

[1:10:49] improve them so it's whether it's flip the strip

[1:10:52] or it's enforcing and making people do a better job of following our our

[1:10:57] code those are the kinds of things that we're looking in there but it also means

[1:11:00] that as we continue to expand our parks or

[1:11:05] we address some of the needs in our facilities that we're just saying we're

[1:11:08] going to support the physical improvements in the city again that's a

[1:11:11] very broad goal it doesn't necessarily narrow anything down and it's probably

[1:11:14] worth looking at if that's too broad goal three ensure midvale city plans

[1:11:21] plans constructs and maintains reliable infrastructure and public facilities

[1:11:26] again there's a relationship between those two things but again we're getting

[1:11:29] into this whole sort of idea of making sure that we're we're maintaining our

[1:11:34] infrastructure system that we need for the city

[1:11:37] good goal probably one that would need to stay but

[1:11:40] we can discuss that some more goal 4 supports residents quality of life

[1:11:43] through the expansion of open space recreational opportunities and active

[1:11:46] transportation last year when we were talking about the

[1:11:49] goals as you will recall they largely there was a lot of them that fell into

[1:11:52] this sort of category so it went from the rec center to um

[1:11:58] parks and our trails and into parks we have made a lot of pr we've made

[1:12:04] progress in a lot of those things but or let me rephrase we made a little project

[1:12:08] progress in a whole bunch of things in this category and that kind of speaks to

[1:12:12] one of the issues is is it something where we want to leave these broad

[1:12:16] categories and know that we're going to make incremental progress on many

[1:12:19] different objectives within that goal or is it

[1:12:23] something that we want to narrow down more so that we can

[1:12:26] focus our resources into it and perhaps make more progress

[1:12:29] anyway increasing community engagement and participation that was a goal from

[1:12:34] last time but we've also had some additional

[1:12:36] through the budget process and the budget retreat there was some interest

[1:12:40] in sort of reinforcing that as something that we want to continue to work on so

[1:12:44] we left that in supporting the redevelopment of main

[1:12:46] street and the redevelopment of state street um again we're things that we're

[1:12:50] putting a significant amount of resources into particularly the main

[1:12:53] street one and so we i felt like you know sort of keeping that there was an

[1:12:57] important thing celebrating the history of midvale we've

[1:12:59] had some good recent community recommendations on how we could address

[1:13:03] that but that is not something that staff made a significant amount of

[1:13:06] progress in and i know that the council it was the meeting where i was out sick

[1:13:11] but it seemed like the council was supportive of this and so it's felt like

[1:13:15] something we would want to keep in there but just wanted to kind of get your your

[1:13:18] feeling on that and then the final one is

[1:13:20] over the course of the last year we made a lot of updates to the single-family

[1:13:23] neighborhoods but a lot of that was just trying to

[1:13:26] match what was being pushed on us by the legislature

[1:13:29] and we have a lot more work that we need to do in that area and so we thought

[1:13:33] about keeping that that was a really quick way because we

[1:13:36] had a 30 minute delay in getting started and i know

[1:13:40] we've got a lot of other things and this is not meant to be an end goal but i did

[1:13:43] just want to sort of prime this concept of saying

[1:13:48] we need to think a little bit more about how we communicate the council's

[1:13:52] vision and if it's broad and expansive that's

[1:13:55] fine and we'll work within that but if you have thoughts about how we can

[1:13:59] narrow that down to really be able to communicate to staff in the public the

[1:14:02] things that are the most important to you

[1:14:05] that's great and i think by doing that that also helps

[1:14:10] push accountability to staff in order to make sure that we're showing significant

[1:14:14] progress in maybe those fewer things rather than a little bit of progress in

[1:14:19] a whole lot of things over the course of the year

[1:14:21] those are just some real quick thoughts and primers paul clearly has something

[1:14:25] that he wants to say and so i'll turn it over to you to your

[1:14:29] thoughts on the goals and how we proceed with that well i like the goals but

[1:14:33] i agree that they're too broad and so

[1:14:37] i think in however many goals we decide if it's 8 10 or whatever

[1:14:42] that we specifically get

[1:14:47] going on something to try to move it along

[1:14:51] so you could have your safety okay well

[1:14:56] what what are we going to do to make it safe we can't do everything so what are

[1:15:01] specifically what would the council like to see to make midfield safer what can

[1:15:05] we do and give specific things that we think

[1:15:10] and we could do that in a workshop talk about what those things are and each

[1:15:13] goal we could do exactly that and if we want to use all the goals fine

[1:15:18] if we want to cut the goals down whatever

[1:15:21] but be able to say and then when we do that

[1:15:24] say from our perspective this is what you do

[1:15:27] as a staff to be able to accomplish that goal yeah

[1:15:30] and

[1:15:34] all i was going to say on that is uh i think what we did last year and again

[1:15:39] that was the first year that we've done this so we're kind of working into it

[1:15:41] but was more of this approach of saying i'm going to report on all the things i

[1:15:45] think fit into these categories and i do think that whatever sort of we end up

[1:15:49] with those goals i do think that it is important for us to come back and say

[1:15:54] we know we'll do eight things whatever five things in

[1:15:57] this category but here are the one two or three things that the council thinks

[1:16:01] within that goal is is is mission would be the priority not that the others

[1:16:05] aren't important it's just those are the priorities

[1:16:07] and as you come back instead of having to go like when you

[1:16:11] come back and go over the goals you don't have to go over everything let's

[1:16:14] go over one every week or every two weeks or whatever

[1:16:18] and talk about what we're doing to it and to work on those particular ones and

[1:16:23] what you've accomplished to do it all at one time is like it's

[1:16:28] overwhelming for you and for us mostly us

[1:16:33] matt i can see why some of these are broad

[1:16:36] that being said goal nine has been sort of what i've been asking for for for

[1:16:40] five years now and now i have this memo from a citizen

[1:16:43] named mike edwards who's literally saying exactly what i've been worried

[1:16:47] about and has proposed language you know for it for the amendment and i

[1:16:53] hate that we've gotten to this point like

[1:16:55] setback requirements i've said from the beginning are are too much

[1:17:00] um he's done a good job doing what i think is the city's job

[1:17:06] by finding all of the setbacks for the neighboring cities and proposing

[1:17:09] language changes and i don't think i've been that confusing since we've walked

[1:17:12] around my neighborhood so i can show you where all the

[1:17:15] setback issues already are so what what can i do to make goal nine a priority

[1:17:20] and less confusing well can i can i add something yeah one is we've got that as

[1:17:24] a goal nine and then he brought that to the planning commission and they voted

[1:17:27] it down which is something we've been asking for and then our commission is

[1:17:33] going against what we want yeah that is a big problem and we need to communicate

[1:17:37] that i guess with that more than the city but that what was their reasoning

[1:17:40] what was the planning commission's reasoning

[1:17:43] i i'm not as anyone there for that but the bottom line is the planning

[1:17:47] commission can go ahead and down something it doesn't mean we can't move

[1:17:50] it on and get it done it's coming to us yeah voted it down it's coming to us so

[1:17:55] that it it's one of those things we establish what we want as our goals

[1:18:00] and then they chill they're making decisions that are i mean they're voting

[1:18:04] against what we want but ultimately we get to make that final decision

[1:18:09] right um effect is what i worry about

[1:18:14] it's a solid point and i think that um uh

[1:18:18] i'm not up on exactly what the reasoning was that they do you remember nate what

[1:18:22] they their reasoning for was turning those down yeah but it was specific too

[1:18:27] the item was specific to a

[1:18:32] property and a development and so their reasoning was if

[1:18:36] they did that for this property they would have to do it across all zones so

[1:18:39] they weren't understanding that's what we what the council wants they were they

[1:18:44] were looking at it purely from what effect does this have on all the

[1:18:49] on this zone across the entire city and they voted it down based on that so it

[1:18:54] very clearly is them not

[1:18:57] understanding what city what what the council wants to see

[1:19:01] in the single family zone and i think kind of evaluating it the

[1:19:06] way that i i would kind of hope that the council does or i mean sorry the

[1:19:10] planning commission would do would be not make wholesale changes

[1:19:14] based on an individual request

[1:19:19] but i think it would be totally different if they were seeing that this

[1:19:22] request was that the council was asking for

[1:19:26] wholesale changes yeah um that would be a whole different thing that's something

[1:19:29] that was information that they didn't have as a planning commission

[1:19:33] so i think that that's information that needs to be communicated both ways yeah

[1:19:37] um you know from this goal

[1:19:40] it's it's it's yeah it's make changes to

[1:19:44] single-family neighborhoods it's not we've never been specific to the point

[1:19:48] of the council fully saying

[1:19:51] we want setbacks to be one foot or whatever it is like that that we could

[1:19:55] take to the to the planning commission and say

[1:19:57] this is what our this is what i think i've been pretty i think i've been that

[1:20:01] specific and i think people have said that

[1:20:04] they've wanted them but i mean i could then look through neighboring

[1:20:07] communities and find setbacks that are appropriate i guess

[1:20:10] and then tell you but i just felt like when we walked around

[1:20:14] it seemed pretty you know clear

[1:20:16] and you've been working on that right yeah we have been working on that um we

[1:20:21] do you know have some changes that we're going to be

[1:20:24] proposing but yeah do you know what the timeline is on

[1:20:28] that right offhand uh no i don't know what

[1:20:30] the timeline is on that offhand okay but i guess what i'm saying is

[1:20:34] specifically those are instead of the broad we'll have let's have the broad

[1:20:39] goal but then let's specifically point out like these things that we really

[1:20:43] want to get accomplished inside the goal inside the goal here

[1:20:47] that's that's what i would because for us to bring the goal there's something i

[1:20:52] don't want to say like a pet project but like there's something that our our

[1:20:55] minds have thought of what that goal means so that's what i think he's trying

[1:20:58] to say is like let's parse it down so we can explain

[1:21:02] you know i don't disagree with that because redeveloping main street could

[1:21:05] mean virtually anything you know all of us

[1:21:08] could give you a very different like a very very different

[1:21:12] look of what that means you know and that's definitely something that we

[1:21:16] can do um too is not only what you're saying

[1:21:20] but and that's why we want to have a follow-up discussion and if there's any

[1:21:24] changes that anyone wants to make or recommend we're open to that so if there

[1:21:27] is a version of redevelop main street that

[1:21:33] besides the project level but we want to be more in agreement as far as the

[1:21:37] council is on what that means redevelop it

[1:21:41] per the plans that we've adopted or you know something like that i mean

[1:21:46] that's definitely something we could do and for all of these so i don't want

[1:21:49] anyone to think that we're locked into these at this point we're working on

[1:21:52] them it's year two we're continuing to destruct it or reconstruct it your

[1:21:56] points are well taken matt can i mention

[1:22:00] i've mentioned to you before as far as goal number one ensuring midvale city is

[1:22:04] safe for the entire community and workforce

[1:22:07] i think that we should if possible get some more

[1:22:12] quantitative data that we share with the public as far as the safety

[1:22:18] is concerned for instance ufa gives a pretty detailed

[1:22:23] report quarterly about the number of calls that

[1:22:26] they receive and the type of calls specifically down to like the very

[1:22:31] number of you know down person or sick person structural fires or stuff i don't

[1:22:37] think and maybe you and the mayor get information like that from upd but i

[1:22:42] think that that's something that we could do a better job of

[1:22:46] sharing publicly because you know as

[1:22:50] upd becomes you know 25 or more of our entire city budget i think that we you

[1:22:56] know do owe a bit more to the public as far as

[1:23:01] their understanding of the types of calls that upd is getting and the types

[1:23:06] of crimes that are occurring in midvale so that we can compare them

[1:23:10] quarterly annually to say this is how things have

[1:23:15] become safer or you know alternatively hopefully not

[1:23:19] you know these are the areas where it's become you know

[1:23:23] we've seen an increase in specific types of criminal activity and

[1:23:28] and that's a good point and we have been sharing those on a regular basis with

[1:23:33] the council as far as the presentations that the chief does and and some of that

[1:23:37] but i understand what you're saying that maybe we can find a way to

[1:23:42] present that in a way to the public that is different than what we're currently

[1:23:45] you know we see often we see heat maps and they're the same you know bright red

[1:23:50] 7200 south every time you know for ufa and upd to be honest um but sometimes i

[1:23:57] think it would be nice to drill down further and say like yes this is a

[1:24:01] bright red spot but you know most of the crimes are nuisance crimes

[1:24:07] or something like that or you know we don't have to have a heat

[1:24:11] map of like where are all the murders in mid but it would be nice to know i don't

[1:24:16] if someone asked me today how many murders were there in midvale city last

[1:24:21] year i wouldn't know because i mean i could go

[1:24:24] to google and maybe try to search that information out but that's not the type

[1:24:29] of thing that's typically been shared with us

[1:24:33] in the past in a quarterly or or annual basis i think that's something we could

[1:24:38] do a better job of for us as a council to

[1:24:42] be able to address those concerns but also just having that information for

[1:24:46] the public to be able to access

[1:24:50] i think that information is on the website i'm not sure right yes

[1:24:54] okay

[1:24:57] we can have a i get that not everyone maybe

[1:25:00] feels as comfortable searching for the information

[1:25:03] and so we can work and see if there's a way that we can communicate that that uh

[1:25:09] we can come back see if there's something that meets your guys's needs

[1:25:13] i i agree with much of what has been said

[1:25:16] and i guess my ask with this is that we take a a step back because with

[1:25:22] being new to this and having conversations with employees something

[1:25:26] that i've heard fairly consistently and in different

[1:25:30] ways is that staff doesn't always feel like

[1:25:33] they have a vision from us

[1:25:36] and so i think the goals are great but i think the what is that overlying vision

[1:25:42] now all of these i think fit into that goal and what we're talking about

[1:25:46] uh you know the specifics of this setback like those are all things that

[1:25:50] can flow into that but i think i mean ideally in my mind for us it's i

[1:25:56] would think we need to i think maybe this conversation for the workshop but

[1:25:59] but setting out the vision of narrowing some of this down actually matt i really

[1:26:04] liked your organizational neighborhood

[1:26:07] community long term and in my mind i think that's a good starting point of

[1:26:12] creating visions within those areas potentially

[1:26:15] but then i think if if staff has a vision

[1:26:19] from council then they can they can come up with

[1:26:23] the ideas and plans of what it takes to get to that vision i think

[1:26:28] ultimately you not necessarily me but approve that

[1:26:33] and give input of course but i just think that i mean that's

[1:26:36] something i've heard in different terms is that we

[1:26:39] i think this is a good conversation but i just

[1:26:42] think for this we've got to take that step back and look at that broader view

[1:26:46] and i think the our city staff does a wonderful job of following the

[1:26:51] guidelines that we have in place already i mean we have a city-wide master plan

[1:26:57] that they follow you know pretty much any time that we get something before us

[1:27:02] you know if council has a specific ask or if a council wants to update a policy

[1:27:08] that's you know in the master plan or any

[1:27:11] policy within you know all of our ordinances we can do so

[1:27:16] at any time like we're not dependent upon

[1:27:19] city staff to do that work for us you know we can request

[1:27:25] proactively that that happen so you know there are mechanisms in

[1:27:29] place for what you said to occur and there are mechanisms with you

[1:27:34] know if if i have a hankering to like change something you

[1:27:39] know i can put it on the agenda at least for a

[1:27:43] discussion

[1:27:46] so i think that's probably where the workshops would help more

[1:27:50] is if if we have something that we

[1:27:53] specifically each of us want we don't do it all at once we just this

[1:27:58] is what concerns me then you bring it back to a workshop and

[1:28:02] we all sit down and just discuss it as a council what direction

[1:28:07] do we want to go to help solve this specific thing so that we as a council

[1:28:12] come up with at least an idea of where we're going

[1:28:17] because i mean we're not all going to agree

[1:28:20] but maybe we can start agreeing on yeah this is something we really want to

[1:28:24] accomplish in planning whether what does it mean uh

[1:28:29] to do this or this or this and

[1:28:32] be able to present our ideas to the council and say yeah this is the

[1:28:35] direction we want you to go and i might be a little now i might be a little

[1:28:38] confused on what's being said i apologize so i mean i see there's sort

[1:28:41] of three levels there's what the mayor has said sort of on what's the broader

[1:28:44] vision then there's sort of this idea of like

[1:28:48] what are what is the what are the goals that the council has

[1:28:51] gotten behind collectively and then there's the

[1:28:56] individual issues that sort of come up which still have to be addressed but

[1:29:00] just so what i'm saying is you can do all of those in a workshop

[1:29:04] part of our workshops is that's what we need to be

[1:29:07] focusing on and it can be the overall goal

[1:29:11] the vision it could be specific

[1:29:14] setbacks that we're worried about

[1:29:19] it could be what what are we going to do with the

[1:29:22] single family homes versus the apartments how much

[1:29:26] how much are we going to let the apartments move in on get rid of

[1:29:29] single-family homes those kinds of things

[1:29:33] so let me ask you i think that's a great idea

[1:29:37] um as far as how we handle the workshops and i i'm with you but one of the things

[1:29:40] that this brings up that i'm just curious about is that i do think that

[1:29:45] they're really valuable and we we do tie those down to being sort of the one hour

[1:29:49] so that we can start the regular meetings at 7.

[1:29:53] there are things that make have have traditionally seemed like they make a

[1:29:57] little bit more sense as far as some of the presentations and things that are

[1:30:00] made by outside groups that aren't fulfilling your goals

[1:30:04] in those workshops but i guess the thing that i'm wondering because we there is a

[1:30:09] different um way that we can address problems in

[1:30:13] those in those meetings is that something that we could expand

[1:30:18] you know move that to say starting at five when we have these individual

[1:30:23] things that we need to work through um

[1:30:26] so that we have more time to address all of that i just so and i agree i think

[1:30:30] that would be good i we used to have a city council a workshop and a city

[1:30:36] council so we met three times and so one complete meeting was

[1:30:42] workshop and we went over all of things which really helped i'm not advocating

[1:30:47] at other beauty okay at all

[1:30:50] but maybe a little more time and specifically get into

[1:30:54] different things that it gets

[1:30:58] it gets frustrating sometimes you're here and

[1:31:01] your vision is not what the staff's doing

[1:31:04] okay sure and i'm not blaming the staff i'm just it's like this is the way i

[1:31:08] want it done but they don't understand that they

[1:31:12] really don't and well and i think sometimes it is that

[1:31:16] the individual

[1:31:19] looking for a change but we haven't necessarily got the full input from the

[1:31:22] council and some of that kind of stuff so

[1:31:24] and i mean my vision is different than the

[1:31:27] other council that's

[1:31:30] but we need to come together as a council to

[1:31:33] work to improve

[1:31:35] midbell's city yeah this is where i would just say again where i think a

[1:31:40] vision is is critical i think everybody will have there you know and i know here

[1:31:45] already in this conversation people have individual things we would like to see

[1:31:49] uh but for me i would much rather come up with that vision and then partner

[1:31:54] with our staff and trust our staff because i look i'm looking at glenn in

[1:31:59] public works i've never worked in public works and i don't want to pretend like i

[1:32:03] know the best thing to do there but if we have the vision then i trust that i

[1:32:07] can work with glenn to execute it and so i think if we can

[1:32:11] again knowing we'll all have specific things we would like to see but i don't

[1:32:14] want staff oh i just got this thing i got this

[1:32:18] setback request from brian i'm going to do that and now i'm going to wait for my

[1:32:21] next request i want you know they're working on things every single day and i

[1:32:25] want them to have that in their mind and not be nine or 14 bullet points of

[1:32:29] what they think but here's what i know the council is

[1:32:33] looking for and when i'm here every day is what i'm doing working towards those

[1:32:37] that vision i don't want to use the term goal but that that overall vision it's

[1:32:41] just sometimes the vision that we have as a council

[1:32:45] isn't necessarily what we have codified either so

[1:32:49] you know what i was saying is that on those things like we have specific

[1:32:55] setback language that if someone wants that changed it needs to

[1:33:00] be changed through the legislative process it can't just be

[1:33:04] a vision from the council to say like we want setbacks to be changed like we have

[1:33:09] to do that through a legislative process and

[1:33:13] you know having different council members with different ideas of what

[1:33:17] that setback should be is confusing to the

[1:33:21] staff because and we need to like you know sometimes you've done a good job of

[1:33:26] this in the past matt and that's you know even if it's taking a show of hands

[1:33:31] like how many council members support this

[1:33:35] i do want to say though just i appreciate you saying that is that um

[1:33:40] i have not met councilman brown's needs with regards to that and we should have

[1:33:45] brought that for the legislative action at this point i know you might not have

[1:33:48] been talking about this specifically but i just he brought no that i just thought

[1:33:51] that was a good example of i mean i think all of us up here think that that

[1:33:56] needs to change but we can't just all of a sudden tell the staff like the setback

[1:34:01] is this now we have to we have to do it throughout

[1:34:05] the process should have acted on that as well and i appreciate what you're saying

[1:34:07] i know i should have we should i should have gotten that before you so you could

[1:34:11] take that action sooner again what i'm saying is not to try to

[1:34:15] say that we can't shouldn't be bringing those specific

[1:34:19] changes that we want to see but i do think overall

[1:34:23] having that vision and then as things come up if we're seeing something

[1:34:26] specifically being able to address it so maybe mayor do you have an idea of like

[1:34:30] when you're talking about vision

[1:34:36] are you talking about a statement

[1:34:39] or or

[1:34:41] is very corporate sounding yeah i know i know i know i'm open to

[1:34:47] what that looks like again i really liked these i hadn't seen those four

[1:34:51] bullet points before the organizational neighborhood i mean i thought that was

[1:34:54] kind of a good i don't know if that's how that would work i think that's a

[1:34:57] conversation we can have but so so i've taken down the notes on on

[1:35:02] some of the thoughts so are we saying coming into the workshop what would be

[1:35:05] helpful is that if the council has sort of thought about

[1:35:09] concepts for vision that we could share with the group

[1:35:12] we do need to solidify the goals

[1:35:16] before the final gets done so i mean could we still

[1:35:22] if we sort of finalize them on the june 7th meeting does that

[1:35:27] allow us to get into the book

[1:35:31] and long story short this is probably you should have answered this mariah but

[1:35:35] you know i have to take the microphone um we just have to have them in place

[1:35:39] before we send the budget book off to the gfoa so even if we have to do it a

[1:35:44] few weeks i can't remember how much time we have after the budget's adopted too

[1:35:49] so we we would have time after the budget was adopted if it if it stretches

[1:35:53] out that long okay cool oh budget

[1:35:56] might not be adopted until august right i'm assuming

[1:36:01] um the the the shortest time frame for us would be a june adoption

[1:36:05] although we've adopted a tentative that doesn't support that

[1:36:09] but i always look at worst case scenario

[1:36:13] because that's how my mind thinks [Laughter]

[1:36:16] um but yeah we'll we would have extra time

[1:36:19] before we'd have to actually submit the budget book to the

[1:36:22] gfoa thank you for that clarification so we'll rework that

[1:36:26] schedule but i think that that would be useful for the next uh meeting is if we

[1:36:31] come in with modifications to goals and then sort of

[1:36:34] a concept for a uh the broader vision so that we can have

[1:36:38] that conversation does that work there for what you were saying

[1:36:43] that sounds good to me out of curiosity is i mean i i am

[1:36:47] curious if if there was this talk about a vision

[1:36:50] if there's anybody who has something in mind of a i mean i know for me it's a

[1:36:55] lot of i want the city to be accessible to residents

[1:36:59] so i've had conversations with public works in this system that glenn

[1:37:03] presented today that ezra as a residency a pothole or a

[1:37:07] sidewalk that needs to be replaced that we have an easy way for them to get in

[1:37:10] contact with us about it and that's kind of what's on my mind

[1:37:13] a vision of accessibility and then i just named a specific

[1:37:17] um but i am curious if anybody so

[1:37:21] i mean to be fair to the council and i get what we're trying to kind of

[1:37:25] accomplish is that so when i started this is just sort of how it went right

[1:37:28] like we go to our budget retreat and then they would just say what's your

[1:37:31] goals and i mean what's funny is when you're first elected in january you have

[1:37:36] like four meetings before you like all of a sudden they're like what's your

[1:37:40] goals right and there's no way to like sort of prepare for that

[1:37:44] i mean as you do it for a couple years you get better at it right but there was

[1:37:48] never a time where um other than like you know there at that point in time was

[1:37:53] where you really sort of solidified them and then you could always do it during

[1:37:56] the year but that was just sort of how it went but for me i guess my vision

[1:37:59] always has been how do we make midville a place that

[1:38:03] people want to stay and and that's what has driven the uh

[1:38:07] land use policy right because as soon as they get a third kid

[1:38:11] they want to move and it's not because they don't like midvale just because

[1:38:14] they can't you know um

[1:38:17] or or a second kid in a second car or something along those lines you know

[1:38:20] it's uh how do we just keep people here that are here because it's a pretty good

[1:38:24] place to be see that makes great sense to me as

[1:38:28] you're talking about those change specific changes appreciate that

[1:38:32] my main goal has always been just to be a more transparent governmental

[1:38:37] institution for people and that we've made great strides you know just

[1:38:43] looking at the microphones and cameras in this room that weren't here five

[1:38:47] years ago four years ago we've

[1:38:50] we've made improvements there but i think we can always strive to do better

[1:38:55] to just be more responsive to our public

[1:38:58] and and have information at fingertips availability for them

[1:39:07] thank you and that's also helpful we'll talk about this in a workshop okay

[1:39:13] this could go on all night that's fair

[1:39:18] okay any other comments

[1:39:22] thank you i appreciate your time thank you

[1:39:27] all right um councilmember glover would you like

[1:39:29] to do motions okay is there a second second okay any

[1:39:33] discussion no in favor to adjourn yes

[1:39:39] does that count yes do you even have to vote on that

[1:39:44] i was looking at robert's rules today actually yes for a journey yeah

[1:39:49] interesting yep no we messed up if not we just stay here all night

[1:39:54] so that's never been in council meetings from years ago

[1:39:59] oh boy all right

[1:40:04] can we take a three-minute

[1:41:03] you

[1:42:27] you

[1:44:04] in i'd like to call this redevelopment

[1:44:07] agency of model city to order welcome

[1:44:13] back everyone rory will you please call roll yes board members barry i am here

[1:44:18] brown here robinson here glover here and girl here

[1:44:24] sperry really had to think about that one if you want to see her

[1:44:27] oh sure you're here all right we're at the public comments

[1:44:32] portion of the meeting any person wishing to comment on any item not

[1:44:35] otherwise scheduled for public hearing on the agenda may address the

[1:44:39] redevelopment agency of midvale city board at this point by stepping to the

[1:44:43] microphone do we have any public comments

[1:44:46] or do we have any online comments no all right

[1:44:49] seeing none we will move to our public hearing uh public hearing to receive

[1:44:54] public comments on the proposed redevelopment agency of midvale city

[1:44:58] tentative budget beginning july 1st 2022 and ending june 30th 2023 is there a

[1:45:03] motion to open the public hearing am i right oh wait emotionally open open

[1:45:09] the public hearing i can't talk a second it's a motion in a second any discussion

[1:45:14] all those in favor any against

[1:45:18] okay we're in a public hearing cody

[1:45:23] thank you so much mayor rda board it's a pleasure to be with you this evening and

[1:45:27] i appreciate your time and would like to present to you the

[1:45:31] fiscally the proposed fiscal year 2023 draft budget

[1:45:35] um as always when we are putting together our budget the forefront of our

[1:45:39] mind is our vision and mission and our values so

[1:45:43] that when we are assigning numbers to line items that

[1:45:48] were really bringing it back to what we want to stand for as a city and

[1:45:53] what we want to accomplish and how that will reflect

[1:45:58] and i think we've we've done a good job

[1:46:01] doing that just an overview of our budget

[1:46:06] we're expecting more growth in the jordan bluffs project area

[1:46:11] a considerable amount of growth and we're seeing we're going to see the

[1:46:17] basically the full value of the zions technology headquarter come online

[1:46:22] and this year there's just a small portion

[1:46:25] of it that's online and

[1:46:28] a little bit more growth in bingham junction project area main

[1:46:32] street project area is still not online that will not be triggered for another

[1:46:36] two years so it'll be march 2024 when we first get tax increment from the main

[1:46:41] street project area and we have

[1:46:45] goals to spend down our city-wide housing fund balance

[1:46:49] and get that money out there and helping

[1:46:52] people get housing our rda operations funds there's really

[1:46:57] no significant deviations from the fiscal year 2022 budget

[1:47:02] so really no no drastic changes a little

[1:47:05] bit of increases for inflation and just for

[1:47:11] for staff but that's really it

[1:47:16] bingham junction a major expenditure we're looking at

[1:47:20] spending 1.6 million in public improvements

[1:47:24] and this is money that's going to be directed just outside of the project

[1:47:27] area which is an allowable use if you can

[1:47:31] illustrate that it does present a direct benefit to that project area which

[1:47:36] being directly adjacent to the bingham

[1:47:39] junction project area and we also plan on improving

[1:47:44] connectivity between those up those

[1:47:48] apartment complexes and uh through holden and so that's gonna be

[1:47:53] money directed to improve the main street north entrance

[1:47:58] and um it's the concept from blue line that

[1:48:01] nate has presented a few times and then we also have a 50 000 transfer to main

[1:48:06] street cda which will be paid back as funds are

[1:48:10] received in main street so that's

[1:48:14] the whole proposed fiscal year 2023 budget but

[1:48:19] i covered the the main changes and then

[1:48:23] everything else will just be meeting our obligation with debt service with

[1:48:28] payments to developers and transfers to admin and the

[1:48:33] affordable housing fund

[1:48:37] the jordan plus project area as i said we're expecting a significant increase

[1:48:41] in tax increment revenue and with that goes an increase in

[1:48:46] the developer reimbursement so reimbursing zions and gardner and

[1:48:50] wasatch for for their investment in the jordan bluffs project area

[1:48:54] and a contribution towards the fund balance

[1:48:57] so we anticipate about 150 000 not being used being put towards the fund balance

[1:49:02] towards future uses so as you can see there's

[1:49:08] um a large jump in that

[1:49:13] contributions from other governments 1.2 million to 2.1 million um as those as

[1:49:18] that zions technology building comes online on and hits the tax rolls

[1:49:25] and then the main street project area as i said it's still not triggered not

[1:49:29] for another two years we'll begin collecting tax increment

[1:49:32] and then we anticipate putting a lot of effort towards

[1:49:37] spinning down that revolving loan fund

[1:49:40] that we have we have a revolving loan program which there's actually an

[1:49:44] applicant here tonight requesting funds from that program

[1:49:48] um 1.5 million dollars was allocated to it

[1:49:53] and fronted it from bingham junction and so

[1:49:56] we're hoping to spend down the remainder next year if possible and then 70 000

[1:50:01] towards public art

[1:50:05] and then finally is the the city-wide housing fund and we're

[1:50:10] looking to spend two million dollars in affordable

[1:50:13] housing incentives a small portion of that it will be

[1:50:17] directed towards a developer in the jordan bluffs project area wasatch

[1:50:23] residential for atira that was signed i believe back in 2016.

[1:50:29] um as i think they have 190 units that are

[1:50:33] at the 60 ami level and so they receive

[1:50:39] affordable housing funds for that and then

[1:50:42] 275 000 for housing programs and that includes the

[1:50:49] programs that are in our housing

[1:50:53] housing plan goals and objectives and

[1:50:56] one of those is more specifically called the home repair loan program which we

[1:51:00] have a meeting with neighbor works tomorrow which is

[1:51:04] an affordable housing organization that

[1:51:07] helps cities administer programs and so um maggie treeley has been doing some

[1:51:14] research and looking into organizations that that help facilitate

[1:51:18] programs from cities and we're going to be meeting with them tomorrow discussing

[1:51:22] what kinds of programs they offer how effective they are and

[1:51:27] looking at a potential partnership with them

[1:51:31] if there's any questions i'm happy to to feel them about our draft 2023 budget

[1:51:43] oh sorry i just wanted to say not about the

[1:51:46] budget but um just in the article that was in the tribune on

[1:51:51] sunday where both you and nate were mentioned

[1:51:56] quite a bit um it was very impressed with both of your comments and knowledge

[1:52:01] and just that type of media coverage that we received on our

[1:52:06] main street project area i think is in a lot due to the efforts that you and

[1:52:12] nate and other staff members have put together over the past few years and i

[1:52:16] just wanted to thank you both for that publicly

[1:52:20] i appreciate that agreed we've been gotten some great

[1:52:24] we've been in main street's been in the news uh twice in the last

[1:52:27] week and a half yeah it's great yeah it's been great

[1:52:32] and i know nate loved the headline that asked if we'd be the next

[1:52:36] park city

[1:52:41] how much did how much did you pay them for that

[1:52:45] [Laughter]

[1:52:56] headline matt's making a note of this on one of the sheets in the budget here the

[1:53:03] percents just aren't calculated it says 0.0 on all of them oh i see it appears

[1:53:08] it shouldn't so technically what you're passing is the

[1:53:12] rda budgets that are in the tentative budget book

[1:53:15] uh which are all the same i think there's

[1:53:19] like an administrative charge that's different but what you're passing is

[1:53:21] what's in the budget book and not necessarily what

[1:53:24] is it zero percent on the budget book i don't know

[1:53:28] or in cody's presentation it's in the the packet

[1:53:33] what was emailed to us we'll adjust it okay

[1:53:47] okay any other comments questions for cody

[1:53:52] thank you all right this is open for uh public

[1:53:56] hearing if there's anybody who would like to

[1:53:59] make public comment on this

[1:54:03] okay mary i move that we close a public

[1:54:06] hearing second hey there's a motion and a second any discussion

[1:54:11] all those in favor aye yes

[1:54:14] any against okay the public hearing is closed

[1:54:19] is there a motion to approve resolution

[1:54:25] 2022-04 rda mayor i move that we

[1:54:29] approve resolution number 2022-04 rda

[1:54:34] adopting the tentative operating budget for all redevelopment agency funds and

[1:54:39] accounts for the fiscal year ending june 30th 2023 second there's a motion and a

[1:54:44] second any discussion okay rory will you call roll yes board

[1:54:49] member brown yes ghetto yes glover hi sperry hi ann

[1:54:54] robinson aye that passes thank you

[1:54:57] moving on to our consent agenda consider minutes of april 19 2022 and set date

[1:55:04] and time june 7 2022 at 7 pm for a public hearing to receive public

[1:55:08] comments and consider adoption of the redevelopment agency of middle city

[1:55:12] tentative fiscal year 2023 budget beginning july 1st 2022 and ending june

[1:55:17] 30th 2023 is there a motion to accept the consent

[1:55:21] agenda mayor i moved there we accept the

[1:55:25] consent agenda second there's a motion in the second

[1:55:30] any discussion rory will you call roll remember ghetto yes glover hi barry hi

[1:55:37] robinson i am brown yes okay that passes thank you

[1:55:42] moving on to our action item consider resolution number 202205

[1:55:47] rda approving proposed amendments to the fiscal year 2022 redevelopment agency

[1:55:52] midville city budget for the bingham junction jordan bluffs main street and

[1:55:56] citywide housing rda funds

[1:56:00] cody

[1:56:03] all right this is the

[1:56:07] uh the same budget amendments that we discussed two weeks ago

[1:56:13] this is the same except for three additional changes have

[1:56:16] been proposed basically i've just gone through and

[1:56:20] calculated all of the tax increment reimbursement agreement payments for

[1:56:24] bingham junction and jordan bluffs so what's approved is what we

[1:56:29] forecast what we estimate will be paid out

[1:56:32] i've trued this up to what has been calculated and what we will actually be

[1:56:36] paying out so in bingham junction

[1:56:41] we have just a decrease of developer

[1:56:45] reimbursement of 122 686

[1:56:50] and in jordan bluffs there is a decrease

[1:56:55] by 39 510 so the bingham junction basically there's one developer that had

[1:57:03] qualified for more reimbursement than they had submitted

[1:57:06] approved expenses and so um we only

[1:57:11] provide them reimbursement for what they have been approved for and so that's

[1:57:15] really the cause for that and the 39 510

[1:57:21] is pretty close so and then there's also a reimbursement of

[1:57:26] tax increment for dedicated to affordable housing and that

[1:57:31] is about 135 000 so we increased the affordable housing incentives by about

[1:57:38] 135 000 to um match up with that um

[1:57:44] payment to wasatch residential for the 190 units that they have

[1:57:48] at 60 area medium income and so um all of the

[1:57:53] amendments we've previously discussed um with except for those three changes

[1:57:59] and then their associated decrease in contribution to fund balance

[1:58:03] so balancing out the the account and so i'm happy to

[1:58:08] address any questions or concerns i have a a question about the affordable

[1:58:14] housing incentives um

[1:58:16] that's a startling number to be honest um to be

[1:58:22] sent back to the developer who's you know

[1:58:26] they're not hurting for money um but

[1:58:30] that agreement being what it is i would just like to

[1:58:34] see more data on that

[1:58:37] specifically what

[1:58:39] 190 units and if we could also perhaps ask them to provide us with

[1:58:46] the details regarding the actual um

[1:58:51] like rent that data okay i would like to see that

[1:58:54] as well um you know this is an aside but um you know the

[1:58:59] units that are i always forget the name of them but

[1:59:04] i think they're florentine villas which you know most of those units there

[1:59:09] are set aside i think for affordable you know one of my residents texted me

[1:59:16] yesterday to say that her rent had gone up several hundred dollars from

[1:59:21] last year's lease to this year's lease so you know i do have some concerns that

[1:59:26] we're reimbursing

[1:59:29] developers that much who are then raising

[1:59:33] rents even if it is you know a unit designated for affordability

[1:59:39] i don't know many people in that position who can afford that type of

[1:59:44] increase so i i would like some more

[1:59:48] data and more information on that since it is you know

[1:59:52] 688 thousand dollars absolutely i can send that to you

[2:00:04] my idea sorry just to expand if we're giving them 688 thousand dollars it

[2:00:08] doesn't seem like they would need to raise rents so dramatically

[2:00:13] so only 135 000 of that is

[2:00:17] associated with that agreement the other amount is

[2:00:21] so at the beginning of the year we had 1.1 million and then we wanted to

[2:00:25] increase that to 1.7

[2:00:28] for a loan that we'd like to make to sunset gardens for their affordable

[2:00:32] housing project which we've discussed and i'm thinking

[2:00:36] it will be the agreement will be up for

[2:00:38] consideration um the next meeting um and then

[2:00:43] so there's only 135 000 of that is for the

[2:00:48] that specific agreement okay that is i agree that is a large that is a large

[2:00:51] number and something that we definitely want to keep an eye on okay thank you

[2:00:58] any other questions or comments for cody

[2:01:02] okay is there a motion on

[2:01:06] resolution 2022 rda

[2:01:12] i moved we passed resolution number 2022-05 rda which adopts the proposed

[2:01:18] amendments to the redevelopment agency's fiscal year 2022 budget for the bingham

[2:01:23] junction jordan bluffs main street and citywide housing rda funds second okay

[2:01:28] there's a motion and a second any discussion

[2:01:31] rory you call roll board member glover aye ms barry hi harvardson hi brown yes

[2:01:37] and gittle yes thank you thank you that passes

[2:01:41] all right moving on to our discussion item we've just got one tonight

[2:01:44] discussion regarding the hive design main street revolving loan

[2:01:58] thank you mayor and board i am pleased to announce that i'm

[2:02:03] bringing before you guys tonight our first loan application through the

[2:02:07] revolving loan program for the main street area

[2:02:10] this application was submitted by the hive design group

[2:02:14] and they're requesting a loan of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and

[2:02:19] as you may remember um

[2:02:21] all loan requests above the twenty five thousand dollar threshold will be

[2:02:26] brought before the board for approval so i'll just briefly introduce their

[2:02:31] plan for using the funds but

[2:02:35] coming up shortly i'll have josh and payton

[2:02:37] before the board to provide their vision and

[2:02:41] to talk a little bit more about the ways in which their plans will enhance

[2:02:45] and revitalize the main street area so the hive design group is planning on

[2:02:51] using the funds to purchase and renovate the current midfield main street theater

[2:02:57] their plan is to use the building as a dual purpose space with their

[2:03:02] their hive design

[2:03:04] groups office space on the second floor and they will operate the theater which

[2:03:09] they hope to call the pearl on the main floor

[2:03:14] and so once they acquire the theater the hive design group plans to renovate the

[2:03:18] space and update the street's presence and restore it to its former glory

[2:03:24] and then i'll just briefly go over the loan terms

[2:03:28] which were

[2:03:32] decided by this the staff analyzed the proposal

[2:03:36] and evaluated it based on the public benefit criteria

[2:03:41] and those terms are a loan amount of the 250 000 with the term of seven years

[2:03:47] an interest rate of 1.75 and the permitted use of funds will be

[2:03:53] to purchase the main street theater and provide interior renovations to the

[2:03:57] upstairs office space and to fund the construction of the marquis sign

[2:04:02] you will see in the next couple slides that john and payton kind of have

[2:04:06] additional plans for the building but the permitted uses will

[2:04:11] only fall underneath those listed and then i know in the packet i had put

[2:04:16] monthly payments but i think that that would be

[2:04:21] a lot of admin on my side so i think we're going to do yearly payments unless

[2:04:25] the board has any other thoughts on that and then the two other items is that the

[2:04:30] borrower will agree to submit payments and invoices to the rda to verify that

[2:04:35] they're using the funds for the permitted uses

[2:04:39] and that they have to illustrate that the collateral to the proposed loan

[2:04:42] ratio is 82 percent and then with that i will have

[2:04:47] peyton and john come up and talk a little bit more about their plans

[2:05:00] and just state your name for the record please

[2:05:02] uh i'm peyton wonderly john simmoner

[2:05:07] we just do that next is the next button all right all right

[2:05:12] yeah so uh our our dream is the pearl on main

[2:05:17] we so we've been on main street for two and a half years we we love it here we

[2:05:21] want to stay on main street and we through the grapevine heard

[2:05:25] that this might be available so um yeah we reached out to the owners and

[2:05:30] initiated the purchase process and then found out this this great loan

[2:05:37] i guess uh do we so we just talking about what our plans are here yes yeah

[2:05:42] cool so um

[2:05:45] you know our building and the in the services the

[2:05:50] the the theater i guess the tenant

[2:05:54] will kind of work in uh in collaboration with a lot of different

[2:05:59] and you can see on on the the site map here

[2:06:02] you know we we know there's a lot of residential coming and we're working on

[2:06:05] those projects ourselves there's res there's restaurant entertainment um so i

[2:06:10] think we'll our uh

[2:06:14] our theater operations will work nicely with everything else that's going on in

[2:06:18] the city um it'll bring a

[2:06:21] an entertainment venue that's much needed and it'll bring a lot

[2:06:25] of people to the street right yeah yeah i think a more regular

[2:06:29] entertainment as opposed to three to six shows a year would be

[2:06:34] something nice to kind of the goal is to bring

[2:06:36] to bring a hundred plus people to the street

[2:06:39] on a on a daily basis rather than every few months exactly

[2:06:45] um the public amenity um just activating the street on a regular

[2:06:51] basis making i know safety is a huge component for what we're talking about

[2:06:55] on main street and just to light the thing up on that portion of the street

[2:06:59] and make it feel more welcoming um

[2:07:02] yeah public art amenity we've been working

[2:07:05] with the all caps group who just had their collaborators or their creators

[2:07:08] conferences last week we'd love to work with groups like that and just kind of

[2:07:12] create a space that more people can use on a

[2:07:16] more frequent basis as opposed to what we see now

[2:07:18] yeah open it up to community groups and other you know art

[2:07:24] art amenities like that yeah um instead you know it's a it's a

[2:07:30] it's a cool building with a great amount of history um it hasn't been

[2:07:34] renovated for quite a bit of time um we'd like to restore it to where it was

[2:07:39] you know some of the the burke or the irish you can see they had a

[2:07:43] had a really cool street presence and it's lost some of that you know so so

[2:07:47] step one would be to build that marquee and and

[2:07:52] really grab the street presence there and and

[2:07:56] highlight i mean it would it would give like an instant um

[2:08:02] i don't know personality in the street and they would

[2:08:05] work alongside with this this arts district that we're trying to create and

[2:08:09] um create a space that

[2:08:12] i don't know is welcoming and gives a an identity to main street here yes my

[2:08:17] some definitive character right for sure i'd say um art based business

[2:08:21] we're an architecture firm upstairs um

[2:08:25] kind of the functionality tying in

[2:08:29] arts with construction um i think we have

[2:08:33] a lot of resources that can help us network wise

[2:08:37] and help bring development to the street just with who we work with on a regular

[2:08:41] basis activating the street like we talked

[2:08:44] about lighting it up making it feel a lot more safe

[2:08:46] creating jobs we already have a director of operations and entertainment kind of

[2:08:51] at the ready um and then there'd be you know concessions

[2:08:55] ticket takers there'd be a whole lot of of

[2:08:59] jobs that come along with the theater operations downstairs along with um

[2:09:05] you know our our business upstairs growing and

[2:09:08] um we have several actually midvale residences on our on our staff is trevon

[2:09:15] bueller still with you guys of course he is yeah he lives in the town homes right

[2:09:18] over here yeah yeah um we have two others that work that

[2:09:22] live in the area too so it's it's a special place for us um

[2:09:28] and like i like we said earlier we've been here for two two and a quarter

[2:09:31] years so we love it we want to stay here and

[2:09:35] we want to see it grow we're excited about all the programs that the rda is

[2:09:40] working on and happy to be part of it future so this is this is long range

[2:09:45] once we we've um

[2:09:48] kind of established ourselves and we're settled

[2:09:51] in um we'd love to

[2:09:54] to redevelop the space using the upper floor housing initiative and and kind of

[2:09:58] um creating low-income housing on the upper floors of the

[2:10:03] of the building and uh yeah and we so we worked on a couple a

[2:10:10] few net zero truly net zero projects in in the state

[2:10:14] and um we'd love to bring that to the to the

[2:10:17] project as well some sustainability yeah that's kind of long

[2:10:21] long range goals though yeah well we're always want to create a place that gives

[2:10:25] people opportunity to kind of present what they have to do

[2:10:28] and the affordable housing we know is a

[2:10:30] major issue in the state and in midvale we'd love to be able to help

[2:10:34] out there yeah i think that's that's the

[2:10:37] presentation i think that's it

[2:10:40] yeah any questions

[2:10:43] thank you before yeah don't i wouldn't go too far

[2:10:46] probably yeah we have some questions so yeah does the board have any

[2:10:50] questions comments or concerns about the proposed loan agreement

[2:10:57] i would just suggest you there is a arts council of midvale

[2:11:01] right and uh you know quick wits performs weekly

[2:11:06] i definitely engage with them if your goal is sort of a broader arts concept

[2:11:11] to work with them quick wits especially they they're sort

[2:11:15] of looking to always sort of offer more than just their friday show

[2:11:19] whether that's like weekly sort of

[2:11:23] lessons on how to do improv and things like that so i

[2:11:26] definitely think if you guys reached out to them that would be a benefit

[2:11:29] uh and the arts council because i do think this is

[2:11:33] a very sweetheart deal of an interest rate you know with especially how

[2:11:36] interest rates are at the moment you know so

[2:11:42] i think it's a great idea i think one component of most successful main

[2:11:45] streets is some type of theater that not only does like performative

[2:11:51] theater but also shows movies so i'm glad that you guys are

[2:11:57] wanting to keep that going i think that's very important moving forward

[2:12:02] my question would be you know if you know down the road if

[2:12:05] you're able to um put in those 12 units would you still uh be focused on

[2:12:12] maintaining the theater component of it okay

[2:12:16] yeah yeah a lot of soundproofing probably

[2:12:21] could get loud but there are people though you know there

[2:12:25] are a lot of people who would love to live above a theater

[2:12:29] and fully aware of the noise so i think it's yeah i think it's great

[2:12:34] do you guys see ever bringing in smaller concerts or anything yes yes that's the

[2:12:38] only thing i feel like we are lacking in the area yeah um

[2:12:42] that's one thing we've discussed for sure yeah

[2:12:45] so yeah renovating the theater itself

[2:12:48] making it a a space that has a certain vibe that i

[2:12:52] don't know yeah multi-purpose kind of event center it would be nice to do

[2:12:55] corporate things during the day just to keep the thing as active as possible as

[2:12:58] opposed to like yeah bring in low-key kind of music

[2:13:01] music yeah will you keep the mosaics that they have there like the joker

[2:13:07] especially the joker mosaic is one of the best things

[2:13:12] are you planning on keeping both spaces or moving all business functions to the

[2:13:16] new area once it's complete we'll move our offices there

[2:13:21] yeah we're currently in the coca-cola mural building

[2:13:25] i guess my one concern on the finances is i really think it ought to be monthly

[2:13:30] not yearly okay

[2:13:33] i mean we have the facilities to be able to accept

[2:13:38] monthly payments and it's just to me it's like

[2:13:42] even i'm in business and i'd rather pay once a month and have to come up with a

[2:13:46] lump sum at the end of the year to pay off

[2:13:49] we're finding a way this is such a this is such a sweetheart deal

[2:13:53] they probably would be fine i just think we need to be monthly i told lisa weekly

[2:13:58] cash okay yeah perfect

[2:14:02] in pennies preferably so yeah lisa do they have with us providing this

[2:14:07] this loan or any i guess it's the rda do they have to sort of

[2:14:11] uphold our same sort of standards with what they perform or whatnot like i know

[2:14:15] our theater is always worried about you know like the swears in it so you

[2:14:20] know maybe we can't do anything they're not restricted to that right

[2:14:23] okay so you could show a rated r movie yeah

[2:14:27] okay good if you yeah probably not with

[2:14:31] concessions though right not alcohol is it a theater

[2:14:36] [Laughter]

[2:14:40] uh any other comments or concerns uh what's the timeline for you know if

[2:14:45] everything were approved what's your

[2:14:48] go date we close on the purchase next month june so we we would immediately

[2:14:54] start renovating the office space and then

[2:14:56] working we're already we've already reached out to the side guys

[2:15:02] are you working and i forget her name but

[2:15:06] the person who tammy yes

[2:15:09] you're keeping her okay good

[2:15:13] okay she

[2:15:15] yeah that's good that's i don't doubt your i don't doubt

[2:15:19] your ability to maintain a theater but i feel like she'd probably be a pretty

[2:15:23] good resource

[2:15:28] good good

[2:15:31] any other comments questions okay thank you all yeah appreciate you

[2:15:36] and um i will change it to monthly i just wanted to see with that one change

[2:15:42] would the board be okay with having this on the consent agenda for the next rda

[2:15:47] board meeting i would i feel like it we should probably vote

[2:15:52] on it yeah and not put it together it's just a

[2:15:57] you know a pretty significant amount of money okay

[2:16:00] okay thank you for your time thank you

[2:16:04] bouncing rubber glover motion to adjourn

[2:16:07] second motion in a second any discussion no

[2:16:11] all right all in favor yes yes hi annie again no we are

[2:16:16] one okay well that passes we're during

[2:16:22] all right we're ready to jump right back in yep

[2:16:25] okay [Applause]

[2:16:29] all right it is 9 51. and i call this midvale city municipal building

[2:16:34] authority uh meeting to order uh welcome everybody

[2:16:40] rory will you please call roll yes board member brown here robinson here i love

[2:16:45] her here ghetto here it's barry here thank you

[2:16:50] all right uh we are to the public comments portion of this agenda any

[2:16:54] person wishing to comment on any item not otherwise scheduled for public

[2:16:57] hearing on the agenda may address the midvale city municipal building

[2:17:01] authority by stepping up to the microphone are there any public comments

[2:17:07] any online no okay

[2:17:10] really quickly in the agenda here it does say redevelopment agency of midvale

[2:17:15] city and that was the same two weeks ago

[2:17:18] it didn't say the middle city municipal i'm sorry what

[2:17:23] in the public comments portion it says the agenda made you may address the

[2:17:27] redevelopment agency in midvale city thank you yep and that was the same two

[2:17:31] weeks ago i saw it then meant to mention it but thank you yes i wasn't here thank

[2:17:35] you all right we've got a public hearing

[2:17:38] item public hearing to receive public comments and consider adoption of

[2:17:41] resolution number 2022-01 mba of the municipal building authority

[2:17:47] of midvale city fiscal year 2023 tentative budget beginning

[2:17:51] july 1st 2022 and ending june 30th 2023 is there a motion to open the public

[2:17:57] hearing

[2:18:00] alright yes motion we open the public here second

[2:18:04] there's nothing i'm tired any discussion

[2:18:09] all those in favor aye yes

[2:18:12] yes any against sounds strange

[2:18:15] okay we are in a public hearing ryan this one's pretty easy

[2:18:20] uh um this the revenue coming in is just

[2:18:24] the lease revenue from the boys and girls club street lighting fund the city

[2:18:27] and head start and then a tiny bit of interest we're budgeting for um and then

[2:18:33] the expenditures are our bond payments um and then we are

[2:18:38] just adding an additional three thousand dollars for arbitrage arbitrage rebate

[2:18:41] calculations which is a part of our bonds

[2:18:45] and that is it

[2:18:49] i didn't have a q i don't have a question slide is there a question

[2:18:54] i i i think i've asked this before

[2:18:57] why don't we just have this as part of our

[2:19:00] regular city budget rather than have like separate meetings for the mba when

[2:19:05] it seems like all of this could be built into our city budget

[2:19:11] lisa can probably explain this better but you know i like the microphone

[2:19:14] tonight so the mba is a separate legal entity

[2:19:17] the bonds were issued through that separate legal entity so that's why we

[2:19:21] have to have the separate meetings okay so once those bonds

[2:19:26] are no more then

[2:19:30] we right we wouldn't need to have these

[2:19:32] meetings okay until we build another building okay there are other financing

[2:19:37] mechanisms but we can talk about it at that time

[2:19:41] okay that's it i'll try to remember that for next year

[2:19:44] when i ask the same questions

[2:19:51] okay we don't want that any comments or questions from ryan

[2:19:55] mary move that we closed the public hearing okay there's a motion second

[2:19:59] after ask for public content sorry there's nobody here

[2:20:04] council member these are all uh we're we are open for for public

[2:20:08] comment is there anybody who would like to

[2:20:11] uh make public comment on this item

[2:20:20] i move that we closed the public hearing second okay there's a motion and a

[2:20:23] second any discussion all of those in favor

[2:20:27] yes okay any against

[2:20:31] all right that passes and the public hearing is closed

[2:20:35] is there a motion to approve this resolution

[2:20:41] may remove that we approve resolution 2022-01 nba adopting the municipal build

[2:20:47] building authority fiscal year 2023 tentative budget beginning july 1st 2022

[2:20:52] and ending june 30th 2023 there's a motion

[2:20:57] a second and there's a motion and a second any discussion

[2:21:01] rory will you call roll yes board member kendall yes glover aye barry hi robinson

[2:21:07] i am brown yes that passes thank you

[2:21:11] all right moving on to our consent agenda uh two items consider minutes of

[2:21:15] april 19 2022 and set date and time june 7 2022 at 7 pm for a public hearing to

[2:21:21] receive public comments and consider the adoption of the midvale city municipal

[2:21:24] building authority fiscal year 2023 budget beginning july 1st 2022

[2:21:29] ending june 30th 2023 is there a motion to accept the consent

[2:21:34] agenda mayor emotion we accept the consent

[2:21:38] agenda second okay there's a motion and a

[2:21:41] second any discussion i do have one question

[2:21:45] so

[2:21:48] come june if we do a tax increase on the midville city budget

[2:21:54] do we still approve this or do we wait till august to approve

[2:21:57] this too i would imagine

[2:22:00] kyle's shaking his head and i was gonna just ask for the question

[2:22:03] no we can we can still approve the rda in the mba

[2:22:08] right and then we declare the intent to increase the property tax rate

Midvale City Council Meeting 05/03/2022

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