[0:06] Okay, we're now ready. Okay. Well, we will go ahead and then call the, the number of birds meeting of the downtown committee to order and welcome back from summer vacation.

[0:20] We're going to go around and introduce ourselves and say what we did this summer.

[0:25] You're not really going to need that.

[0:28] I'm right.

[0:29] I'm right.

[0:29] I want Gainesville.

[0:30] So, my husband.

[0:32] No, okay.

[0:32] I'm John.

[0:33] Don't worry.

[0:34] I can take a look.

[0:36] Thank you.

[0:37] I'm the writer.

[0:39] Here.

[0:40] Here.

[0:42] Thank you.

[0:42] Yeah.

[0:43] Broshie.

[0:44] Not here.

[0:46] Nice to share, bear.

[0:47] I think we're going to share.

[0:49] That's for that.

[0:49] Here.

[0:51] And we will move on to item number three, approval of the Minutes, the June Minutes were sent out

[1:00] and everybody should have had a chance to let the dose.

[1:03] And I did, I got some edits from shooting on the thing that are incorporated into the minutes you see.

[1:08] I'm just going to just some miskelling of the names.

[1:12] And a motion to approve would be.

[1:15] a motion by shinning, second by. Okay, any discussion, anybody online, right?

[1:30] I'll tell you, I'm in the opposed. All right, motion carries unanimously.

[1:39] Next item is upcoming agenda topics and you can see the list there of things that are on the upcoming.

[1:53] Any other things that people want to add to the list or other things on the list that maybe ought to be advanced if possible?

[2:07] I'm hoping to have a public safety presentation, the fire department is going to be doing some drills in the downtown coming up later this fall, so we'll be making a report out on that to us and then also have a conversation with our police equipment.

[2:22] Those are kind of near-term things for playing.

[2:26] And this is again, there's all hold from the work plan.

[2:28] Yeah. A lot of it. Yeah. Yeah. This is in way more detail than having the work point, which is a little more general.

[2:40] Do you have a parking plan for the day?

[2:44] Yeah. That's pretty cool.

[2:47] I just wanted to think where I was. Oh, it was parallel to where that.

[2:51] No, I was in the main parking garage.

[2:54] It California.

[2:56] And none of the.

[2:59] Solve and see lights or a work it. Yeah, there's been, there's a banana commission for a couple of years.

[3:04] Oh, yes, you scratch.

[3:06] You scratch.

[3:07] Yeah, the company, the company that installed them went out of business and the technology, we just haven't been able to maintain it. So we're exploring, you know, we'll, we'll talk about parking in a future time, but we're exploring some way better way.

[3:22] I can't.

[3:24] I don't know.

[3:25] Sorry.

[3:26] I didn't mean to get it.

[3:26] To do deal on that.

[3:28] Any anything else on upcoming agenda items?

[3:34] No, but can I go out of order and just make, I just tell that I should introduce Abby

[3:38] Kim.

[3:41] I just.

[3:42] I know.

[3:43] I don't know.

[3:45] I don't know.

[3:46] I don't know.

[3:49] So as some of you know,

[3:51] Most, you know, I think, monosol got a new job over the summer and so we had an exhaustive

[3:59] search and the winner, Happy Longbook.

[4:03] Happy Longbook.

[4:04] Happy Longbook.

[4:06] Yes.

[4:07] And in case you didn't know, Happy used to work at Tech Museum.

[4:11] So I think I had good understanding, working for a non-profit.

[4:14] We're crazy people who walk in the door all the time, so it's all about.

[4:17] I think we're active with the tech.

[4:18] The tech interactive.

[4:20] I was like, I'm a member, so you're like, we get the number, right?

[4:25] So there have been multiple names over there.

[4:26] I've been a place to go.

[4:29] I'll be, yeah, to everybody.

[4:31] And so obviously, we're still going through some transition at the chamber.

[4:36] Abby, as part of the team now, to look at who will actually be leading the efforts for the downtown business association.

[4:44] I have been doing a very terrible job of it for the last two months.

[4:46] So obviously I'll each put my team stepping up.

[4:50] So I wanted her to be a sit-in at least and I see how the down tap can be noticed.

[4:56] So that brings up a question, because Maura's solved was...

[5:00] With she on, she was on the committee by reason of her position. So we're that extent to, it doesn't.

[5:12] It does, but Abby will still need to go through the process that it makes her eligible to be appointed.

[5:19] But she needs to still need to be appointed by the council.

[5:23] Also, the council actually needs to formalize it, but it's so semi-automatic.

[5:27] Yeah, I mean in this case, and so, well, maybe when it's not Abby's pointy first 10 minutes in, we'll send it to the application and we can get that problem first.

[5:38] Okay.

[5:40] All right, then we will close item four and move on to item five all communications from the public.

[5:48] And is there any public?

[5:50] I see no member of the public.

[5:52] Okay, now I want it.

[5:54] Oh, actually I'll then, oh no, no, no, no, no.

[5:57] Okay, well then I won't make the normal head medations and we will close item five and move on to item six unfinished business.

[6:07] And item six point one is to downtown the dollar much update.

[6:12] Oh, yeah.

[6:13] See Diana on the first screen.

[6:17] So, Diana, are you making the report?

[6:23] you're on mute. I'm trying to say how I can appear. Good morning everybody.

[6:34] Say I in terms of the downtown updates, development updates. I just wanted to highlight

[6:42] One specific thing, which is regarding the posture clouds, we do have an application and that you should be able to see in the update.

[6:57] This is just a portion of it, not the office portion, so that's a little bit of a change that you'll be able to see in there.

[7:10] I think it is number four.

[7:15] And this is the hotel.

[7:19] Other

[7:24] than that, you know, not really much to record in terms of any changes.

[7:36] One important thing to note is 705 SD now, which is the Smith Brothers mix use project at a data and hope street corner.

[7:48] That's the one which you might see on the Council agenda towards the end of this year.

[7:54] The project, but it was approved, had an underground parking garage, and with a very limited amount of parking spaces,

[8:04] the developer has approached the city with the concerns that the feasibility of that is difficult,

[8:12] because of cost constraints, and they might come in for modification, removing that underground parking garage.

[8:19] and they'll be providing some surface level parking spaces and the back.

[8:25] So stay tuned, but it's going to be a minor change.

[8:29] As per the state law, they are really not required to provide any parking on site.

[8:34] They are within the half mile radius of the transit center.

[8:40] So that's another change that is not listed in here, but it is going to come in.

[8:51] Any questions or I have won't, but see if anybody else had any.

[8:55] Just a comment on number 9590 Castro is that to say the construction has started is kind of an overstatement.

[9:04] But they dropped off.

[9:07] The federal material they will be using because they will be starting.

[9:10] Structions soon for demolition.

[9:12] For a demo of demo, I guess.

[9:13] It's the correct term.

[9:15] And so part of the parking lot actually part of the access, the parking lot.

[9:20] now have a nice big green fence around it, but nothing will start in earnest until after the

[9:27] October fest. We've been working very closely with Sabrato and with the city to make sure

[9:32] that everything is cool for the events. Obviously, for next year, we have to make some of the alternative

[9:39] plans that things are going to be good for this year. Dan, I just question about the hotel. I mean,

[9:47] given the way it's moving, the staff have any sort of life, that fantasy timeline.

[10:01] Or as Robert Green indicated that, you know, either financing is really hard now, which is, you know, an age old story, or you got it, and we're looking at 28 groundbreaking.

[10:19] It's good to say that, especially with this project, we are just happy that a portion of the application is in.

[10:27] So yeah, I think staff will report back once we feel that we are in a better position to guess what could be like a good reasonable timeframe.

[10:38] I will say the terms of the new, the amended DDA have the specific timeline that have to be met.

[10:47] So, there are some stipulations that were built into Council's approved DDA.

[10:53] So, I can't remember exactly what those are, but there are some, of course, timelines there.

[10:58] I know I know, you know, obviously financing is often contingent on things moving quickly.

[11:03] So of course there's always the opt-in to submit a building permanent risk, we'll have to see if they choose to do that.

[11:10] But the timeline is that I can really vary in at this stage.

[11:14] Really is too soon to tell, but there are a variety of different pools and strategy,

[11:18] and then also some hard deadlines in the DDA.

[11:23] I don't remember seven, seven, five, six California street.

[11:28] It says that a two-year permit extension was approved by the zoning administrator on August

[11:34] 7, 2024, so we are passed the two-year time frame is that is another extension going to

[11:41] be granted or applied for?

[11:44] No, I feel like that project is just going to expire.

[11:49] That's the dental office, isn't it?

[11:52] It's an emergency.

[11:54] Yeah.

[11:54] What number is that, Kim?

[11:55] Yeah, sort of.

[11:55] I've never said it.

[11:57] Yeah, behind Ludwig's.

[12:00] Yeah.

[12:03] That was a nice little project.

[12:06] Mm-hmm.

[12:06] All right.

[12:07] Anything else?

[12:09] It's not.

[12:10] Thank you, Diana.

[12:12] I want to presumably, there's still nobody online.

[12:17] I see no.

[12:18] No, no, no.

[12:19] All right.

[12:20] We'll move on to 6.2, Captain Street, OK.

[12:33] All right.

[12:34] All right.

[12:35] All right.

[12:35] Good morning.

[12:36] Good morning.

[12:36] Team members.

[12:37] Mandorotella, economic vitality strategy.

[12:40] It's not with vitality manager.

[12:42] What is my title?

[12:45] All right.

[12:45] So some updates for you from Caster Street.

[12:48] So we are wrapping up this summer.

[12:50] But they are continuing to be some fun things happening down town.

[12:54] concert from the Plaza will continue through the end of this month. So you can see we've got the last last

[13:01] last band playing September 25th. And if any questions about how that's been going you can ask

[13:07] committee member Shake who's been there. Yes. All right. You should if you haven't been there

[13:11] to be there. It's a good time. We're just use of timbre a lot. Yeah. Yeah, especially the

[13:18] of the 80s rock.

[13:22] We'll continue through October, which is exciting to see, and as you know, these are some smaller,

[13:29] smaller kind of musical performers on the 200 block and they're there every Wednesday.

[13:37] And then we are so excited to announce Makers Market Series coming to downtown.

[13:42] We've got some little promotional postcards here.

[13:47] We can help us get the word out on those.

[13:50] So the coming up quick, the first one is in the cameras.

[13:53] It can be a team.

[13:54] There'll be one in October, November and December.

[13:56] So this is a four-part, pilot series that we are sort of testing out.

[14:02] This meets a lot of action items in our economic vitality strategy, both around downtown

[14:09] activation that also around supporting micro printers, the creative economy. So we're really excited to have

[14:16] over 50 local artists, over half of which are from Mountain View, and over half of which will be

[14:23] their first time participating at the Maker in a Maker's Market. So we have a lot of new

[15:01] We've had training that we've provided to the makers. We've collaborated with Fabmo and they've done some trainings around how to set up your booth, how to display your items, things you should think about, you know, how are you accepting payment.

[15:14] So, not only are we providing this community, but we're also providing this resource to all of these.

[15:19] I call micropreneurs, creative, our creative vendors.

[15:24] So this is really exciting.

[15:25] We continue to hear from the downtown community

[15:28] about a desire for more regularly scheduled programming.

[15:33] So this is something that we are testing out.

[15:35] And because it's a pilot, community response

[15:38] will be an important metric that we measure.

[15:40] So we're hoping the community will come out

[15:42] and do some shopping for the holidays

[15:44] as we kind of prep up this year.

[15:47] How are the artists that we may talk about that, my friend, as I remember.

[15:52] Oh, yeah.

[15:53] The great question.

[15:54] So we had an open application process,

[15:57] so anyone could apply.

[15:59] We did give priority to mountain view-based makers,

[16:02] but beyond that,

[16:05] we were assessing applications for completeness.

[16:07] You had to have a mountain view business license.

[16:09] You had to have a sellers permit.

[16:11] And then we were really looking at the remaining makers

[16:14] how we curate a nice variety of products for the market. So trying to ensure that there was a good variety.

[16:22] Will it be the same vendors each time? More or less the same we asked all we asked the vendors to

[16:27] find on for all four but there's you know one or two that can't make all of them so it will be like

[16:33] ever so slightly different every time but uh uh of the same cohort for them and for me.

[16:40] was there any discussion or stuff? I know I can't remember the name of the group that

[16:47] does like the repairs, you know, they have these big repair plans.

[16:53] Yeah.

[16:56] And I was wondering if there have been a discussion of having like a small, you know, repair

[17:03] cafe is part of that because that's usually local people that, you know, just fixing stuff.

[17:09] Yeah, it's a great question. We had such an overwhelming number of applicants,

[17:15] um, of people, makers that wanted to participate. So we really are filling every possible

[17:19] inch, um, with makers. I think had there, had there been a less of a turnout. We had a lot of

[17:25] non-profits that have reached out wanting to table and we just don't have this face.

[17:28] It's something kind of a walk before you run.

[17:33] I feel like I'm too late with this.

[17:36] I have a lot of a question.

[17:37] Is there any sense of what the demand market is for?

[17:45] I mean, we have a lot of makers come out anticipating a lot of consumers.

[17:51] Our hope is, I mean, in every forum that I've spoken about the makers market, people have expressed

[17:57] very clear enthusiasm for this. We're rolling out a pretty good promotional campaign,

[18:03] we're advertising and local papers on Facebook, we're acting all of the makers.

[18:07] I mean, every maker's market that I've been to, I attended the Favo1,

[18:11] where I thought Abby last year, that was really well attended. So my sense is that there is an

[18:16] appetite for this kind of event, but that is, we think about how we can evaluate success.

[18:23] that's one of the things we're going to look at is what is the turnout? What's the community

[18:27] respond? Certainly be looking at what was the experience of the makers? How did the downtown

[18:32] businesses feel about it? But as I said, an important metric will be, you know, does the community want

[18:37] this? And if it is something that they want, then we're hoping that they'll show up and shop and sort

[18:42] of demonstrate that. So what are they marketing? Are you doing to get people to go to? Yeah, so we're using

[18:48] In all the cities, channels, newsletters, we're doing online paid advertising on social media to

[18:55] kind of do some targeted outreach, where we've taken out ads with Mountain View Boys.

[19:00] I think one of the little papers, we're doing outreach to all of the neighborhood associations

[19:04] and then each of the vendors, we've given them marketing materials and are strongly requesting

[19:09] that they promote to all of their channels.

[19:12] And some of them have pretty robust social media as well.

[19:16] Yeah.

[19:18] And go ahead, Peter.

[19:20] Well, I just can put two quick steps in.

[19:22] One is, can I take a step back?

[19:23] Go, Peter.

[19:24] You can have, you can have all of my advice if you walk.

[19:28] It's going to be harder.

[19:29] It's going to be, is the market?

[19:30] I mean, is it going to be sort of like the article line set up, you know,

[19:34] go white, white pants, just found cash register,

[19:36] or fake spots on pasture street?

[19:39] So we've outlined little booze that'll, we write along the 300 blocks.

[19:43] So we're sort of saying within the 300 block there,

[19:46] kind of next to the patio area and vendors responsible for bringing their own tents and tables so

[19:51] there may be tents or there may not be, it'll be, you know, we're kind of doing this a little

[19:56] scrappy, but

[20:00] But yeah, so we're leaving it to the vendors. You've given them a designated space that they can have, and they can do with that space, but they wish.

[20:08] We're looking at the demographics of the people who are like, can you say, oh, don't you know, like, they're mostly mounted.

[20:14] Like, age range.

[20:17] Yeah, we are collecting information. You know, we want to know, you know, again, if I was at their first time, is it, you know, we're there from, I don't know that we were checking demographics beyond that, certainly something we could.

[20:30] I'm just going to say too that some people who come up with me and said, well, is this like a mini art and wine festival?

[20:37] And I think it's important that we continue to differentiate.

[20:41] This really is a different flavor to it. It's got different artists that are being showcased.

[20:49] And personally, I want all our events to be super successful.

[20:53] So the more that people see this is something unique and come back to letting the important.

[20:56] My question was also that, you know, we have like 40 spots and like 100 applications kind of thing.

[21:04] The ones that didn't make it for September spot get put in just slated into an October slot.

[21:11] So, because of the way city contracting goes, we aren't doing a fresh cohort every time.

[21:16] So, we have one cohort that we've improved to be in all four.

[21:20] So, unfortunately, the people that were not selected will not be at the this series, having then, you know, and we evaluate this for a long-term long-time viability, you know, we will go back out to that list of people that have submitted and invite them to commit to participate later on.

[21:39] But yeah, I don't choose.

[21:40] Was it like the art that you are just like,

[21:43] what was that the vendors?

[21:44] Oh, so I think that all the Mountain View

[21:46] and Face Makers got priority.

[21:48] And then staff, like if that we were trying

[21:50] to curate a diverse range, and also looking at readiness,

[21:55] if they submitted material, the demonstrated

[21:57] that they have a viable business,

[22:00] we weren't able to accept food vendors

[22:01] because that offers a whole nother layer.

[22:06] And then there were a handful

[22:08] that were just sort of re-selling, you know, products that they hadn't made, and so we were

[22:14] also evaluating, like, is it something that you've put your personal, or make, yeah, your personal

[22:19] stamp on. So there were a couple of, you know, ways that we, you know, had to move people off of it.

[22:26] But again, it was really like, okay, we've got a lot of jewelry, you know, who's the ceramicist that we

[22:31] can bring it, you know, to really look at that. But it was all done at that level. Yeah.

[22:34] So what Peter was saying was saying there's a button or some white festival, but I was looking

[22:43] at the given time out on the Castro Street, we have so many people from foreign places

[22:50] you know, but they're always looking for like mountaineers to mini-air, I mean I don't know

[22:55] the details, we somebody will come up with some of them, we have a salad, some of them.

[23:03] Yeah, I mean, my interview of something, you know, that would be fun to really be able to showcase the amount of you specific papers.

[23:10] I mean, I know that the therapy store had some, you know, amount of you specific items.

[23:17] So, you know, you can direct me to put your right in there.

[23:18] Just a certain center has had swag before.

[23:23] It's a man team that kind of come and wind and then COVID gets like that.

[23:26] Yeah.

[23:26] But that's actually on the chambers.

[23:28] list of things to look into is to expand the amount of swag we can do.

[23:34] There are a couple of organizations that will do stuff online so you don't have to keep

[23:37] inventory and that's more attractive in some ways, but again, you need something visible

[23:42] people can walk away with that, it's like, so I have a question for, I guess, a happy.

[23:52] Are we doing is any work with the numbers of the pump of the association about this is going

[24:04] to be happening, you know, for it is vastly the restaurants, you know, it's fine dinner

[24:09] time, you know, are they, you know, they're not obviously the makers, but are they, so this

[24:16] This is coming, y'all have to be doing something special.

[24:20] Yeah, and for inviting your contact, right,

[24:23] constant contact was the full answers yet,

[24:25] then yet, we've already had a couple of the with the DDA

[24:29] and talked about them and you might want to have

[24:32] special offerings, you might want to have two bonds,

[24:34] you might want to get in all that sort of thing.

[24:35] It's very similar to what we do with our pipeline press.

[24:39] Again, it's you're going to have to,

[24:40] it's just going to be thousands of people down

[24:41] to want to take advantage of it.

[24:43] And we're trying to really promote this

[24:46] a come downtown, you know, it's not just coming for the makers market, but we purposely

[24:51] planned it around happy hour dinner time, so it's come downtown, it's have some dinner,

[24:57] it's do some shopping, you don't shop in the other businesses.

[25:00] That are in the downtown. So, you know, I've had a couple interviews with members of the media and that is how we are. We're really trying to promote it. It is come have an afternoon and evening downtown. Say for a while.

[25:12] Well, we'll be 200 block or 300 block the entertainment zone.

[25:18] We can do that.

[25:19] Well, I know.

[25:20] It was something we talked about, but we just don't have the capacity.

[25:23] We've need a lot more monitors and, yeah, it just wasn't realistic with this thing

[25:31] that we're testing out.

[25:33] We just didn't have the capacity to add another layer.

[25:35] Are you promoting it to surrounding community dwellers or promotional reports on that?

[25:41] No, we really are.

[25:42] We're trying to promote beyond Mountain View.

[25:44] I know in the social media metrics that we were looking at, we were really

[25:49] I know you can do pretty targeted.

[25:50] We really refined to expand the more regional.

[25:53] And a lot of these makers are outside of Mountain View,

[25:56] about half.

[25:57] And so they're promoting it to their public as well.

[26:00] But certainly, there are other ideas, the recommendations.

[26:02] We'd love to hear about ways we can further get to work out.

[26:06] So we do this for the first year,

[26:08] and everybody's happy would not necessarily each event,

[26:14] be an entertainment zone with that be considered,

[26:16] or is that just too many layers?

[26:18] I think it's something we are talking about,

[26:21] but for this series, we just couldn't know.

[26:22] I went on the edges.

[26:23] Yeah, for a person who won, yeah, we could definitely

[26:26] look at that.

[26:28] And maybe we'll learn how to be more efficient

[26:30] on the internet, so it's not such a big deal.

[26:35] That's how it does doesn't do any pain for her.

[26:37] Well, they have a different set.

[26:39] I know they don't do any pain.

[26:41] They don't do any bullies.

[26:43] They do it right now.

[26:44] Yeah, but this actually brings up another question that I have, Pam, and that we have the entertainment

[26:49] so-and-for, Tifa, and I'll see me for the summer of soft arts, and all. And then we were on

[26:59] vacation for, you know, so we never heard a report on how well that went or how well the entertainment

[27:05] so-and-for, because I think what we really recognized early on was we're trying this for the first time.

[27:10] So let's see how it works, how we can improve it,

[27:13] how we can make it easier and all of that.

[27:15] So I'm just curious if we can, I don't know,

[27:17] today is the day you do that.

[27:18] We can have a report on how successfully

[27:20] and the team that some was, what we learned from it.

[27:22] Yeah, so I've got a couple slides

[27:24] that we'll talk about the summer soccer,

[27:26] and we can touch on that.

[27:28] Yeah, but yeah, it's a great question.

[27:30] And we'll, I'll save my comments.

[27:32] Okay.

[27:32] Yeah.

[27:34] Anything else about the maker's work?

[27:35] I hope you all come.

[27:38] But the bigger market on that topic is not to me, gastro, and some comments.

[27:49] So third and some people have looked and do ask me about what have like like, like,

[27:55] oh, okay.

[27:56] They're missing, they're missing.

[27:58] So there shouldn't be any bike racks missing.

[28:00] In fact, we received a grant to put more bike racks out.

[28:05] So some may have been moved around slightly.

[28:07] but there is a net increase in bike rack that are in the downtown, which is great to see.

[28:15] I did do some strategic moving of bike racks, like there was a bike rack right in front of

[28:19] Alexander participatory as you know, entryway that was breaking up their patio from their front door,

[28:26] and so I worked with our public works team to have it relocated. But other than that, there shouldn't

[28:31] any bike racks that are gone. It's not missing. Yeah, so it's not missing. It's been strategically

[28:39] relocated to the fourth episode. Where it's gone though? I can't remember that one may have

[28:44] ended up in front of Ludwig's. They've got a pretty big space kind of in a what you see

[28:49] a parking spot. Yeah, just down the street. But I walked to the street with the public work scene

[28:55] and helped them strategically place it so that it wouldn't impede the flow of business. You know,

[29:00] either being directly in front of their business, or in the case of out-of-the-end

[29:03] or participories were created this barrier if you're walking out of there with food,

[29:07] you've got to kind of climb over the bike rack to get to the patty of your car,

[29:11] so. But yeah, there should be more bike racks out in that left.

[29:14] We're getting good use of the web notifications, especially sometimes I'm like,

[29:18] well, it can't get us thought later. Yeah, we're trying to place them, you know,

[29:22] it's supposed to be intersection as possible. Because we're seeing, you know, we don't

[29:31] And so by placing them on the corners or hoping people will park their bikes and then stroll.

[29:37] Isn't it?

[29:37] Yeah.

[29:38] So you know, sometimes it's like fun, but I still feel like Grant and E.J. as we like to know about

[29:42] the bike rack.

[29:44] OK.

[29:44] Mark, let's have.

[29:44] You want a big part of what we heard from the community in the public arts strategy.

[29:49] Outreach was the desire for functional art, so something like a bike rack.

[29:53] The challenge with brands often is that they have really firm deadlines, and so in the case

[29:58] of this grant, we just didn't have the time to...

[30:12] And then the case of our downtown where we have limited spots for bike racks. We don't want them to take up the entirety of downtown. We need them to be fairly helpful. But it's a great question and absolutely one that we're just going, you know.

[30:26] Yeah, but at least we can simply call a code it, you know, let's people know that the

[30:32] green color is perfect. But so they will fight by crack sports or both is perfect.

[30:38] All the few balls is in a particular reason, maybe temporary.

[30:43] Um, it would be good to know which ones, and I'll have the staff go out.

[30:46] Yeah, because I thought maybe this temporary doesn't want to try it out.

[30:50] Oh, just go there. Oh, they will step on it with the most moving. Well, there's a couple different

[30:54] There's ones that are sort of all attached to one another, like a sled almost, and then there's a couple of individual ones.

[31:01] So, you know, I think they're all bolted differently.

[31:05] I think we're also trying to be really focused on how many pulls we're putting into the ground.

[31:09] So, you know, it may be an ever-testing stuff, tempting locations out, but I'll have to question if you can let me know which ones.

[31:17] One more thing, a couple of businesses mentioned about the trash.

[31:23] especially when you get summer time with a lot of people come in and also trash can just get filled up and is the outside so often

[31:32] or who are taking contact with this.

[31:35] Yeah, you can have them.

[31:36] I have businesses reach out to me.

[31:39] There is a production that happens every day.

[31:42] So there's the morning through that gets out there.

[31:45] But certainly if we're finding that it's our receptacles are sufficient,

[31:48] you know, we'll go on a look into that.

[31:51] I guess the question I would raise to you know is is it a problem with overflow of the receptacles for people not using receptacles or flow of your information and then even they went outside and put in the bag and put the bag on its sides.

[32:05] So it's a look at basically, as clean place, you know, there's a lot of right there.

[32:11] And yeah, and in that case, we'll have to reach out to the gelato place.

[32:14] So part of what is required of businesses without door patio areas is there that they need to have their own trash outside.

[32:21] They're not supposed to be depending on city public trash cans.

[32:25] And there's both to have recycling trash and compost available for their patrons.

[32:29] So we'll do some follow-up with our data outside the audience side.

[32:38] If in an outdoor patio, yeah, we have a bit of a requirement for...

[32:43] They do.

[32:44] They do.

[32:45] And they definitely don't have outdoor trash.

[32:48] Yeah, I'm always searching for it.

[32:49] They just go, oh, oh, do us some stuff by and check out them.

[32:52] Thank you for finding that.

[32:53] That's really helpful.

[32:55] Yeah, certainly not nice.

[32:55] Of course.

[32:56] to email you know that you can always use as mountain view to report some of these issues.

[33:03] You know that he's coming to chat with us.

[33:05] I know, yeah.

[33:07] Well, I do that.

[33:07] And it works very good.

[33:09] I just saw the trash on my way up.

[33:11] He'll build us fishing.

[33:12] I'm going to do that.

[33:13] Thank you for that.

[33:15] I'll have a conversation with them.

[33:16] They're very nice.

[33:18] And is there more?

[33:19] Oh, there's more slides.

[33:21] No, I'm at 6.2.

[33:24] Yeah.

[33:24] Yeah, that's right.

[33:26] Oh yeah, but this one I'm going to defer to Pete.

[33:30] Wait, there's one.

[33:32] Oh my god.

[33:34] We're going to get off of that.

[33:37] Yes, the 54th annual.

[33:39] Coming up.

[33:40] Hopefully all of you are volunteering.

[33:43] We are proceeding as you might guess.

[33:46] Full speed ahead.

[33:48] If you walk into the chamber, you won't be able to get through the alleyway of stuff.

[33:54] The main thing that I want people to know about 54th Annual Art and Mind Festival is a couple of things.

[34:00] First of all, is that lot 12 is not available.

[34:04] We are putting a housing there.

[34:06] So parking will be a little bit more of a hard for folks that said we do have a lovely parking structure.

[34:13] that stand in the street that hardly ever is full. But we are encouraging, of course, you know,

[34:19] public transportation, we're also not modifying Uber and Lyft and all the others that they can't

[34:26] draw people off it off a lot, 12. They should actually go over a lot that over a block up the street

[34:32] where it's a little safer to do than that. So we've done that. From, I mentioned that in front of

[34:41] There is some destruction going on, but it's very well-walled off, so it should be perfectly safe.

[34:47] And other than that, it's all about, I think, what's new, what's changed.

[34:54] The biggest change that we've got is that for last year or you may recall, we have the wine tasting.

[35:00] And each experience, which was a special large tent, and you have a passport and you got to sample about a dozen different wines from it, about dozen different wineries.

[35:08] Most of them are back, which is great. We've also introduced some new ones.

[35:12] But we got the feedback from the wineries saying, you know, we really would love to sell some bottles rather than just do the civic. And so we actually have a bottle sale area now, accompanying the wine tasting area.

[35:26] So that's all rolling and we're just now praying for good weather, lots of people to come and all of that to stay in the car.

[35:38] There's a warm up.

[35:40] Yeah, there's a warm up coming.

[35:41] It's not going to be like stay.

[35:43] There's so many people who are mixed on this question.

[35:46] Oh God, it's so cold.

[35:47] They're all gone.

[35:48] It's so hot or whatever.

[35:48] So I'm hoping they're just that beautiful, wonderful day.

[35:51] No rain.

[35:52] No rain.

[35:54] So it has rained on, it rained before, so anyway, anyway, anyway, the, and the entertainment

[36:02] zone rules don't really apply because we have the hyperbole, which is nice, but please tell

[36:11] everybody, I'm on down, enjoy.

[36:16] All right, so we'll have the, our mind festival September 12th and 13th, and then first thing,

[36:21] I didn't want to say one thing about the art microscope because you're mentioning it about

[36:25] bike racks and all of that. The friends of Stephen Creek Trail will again be manning our bicycle rack area.

[36:34] It's usually down on right at church and cathode across the street.

[36:39] Yeah, it's bus to Wells Fargo back.

[36:43] We able to use the Wells Fargo lot this year.

[36:46] No, okay.

[36:49] I'm sorry.

[36:50] Wait a minute.

[36:51] Are you talking about the old Wells Fargo Lotter, the new Wells Fargo Lotter?

[36:53] You're talking about the lot in front of the chamber?

[36:55] Yes.

[36:56] We are able to use the last year.

[36:58] It's our last year.

[36:59] Parking or just like that?

[37:01] For the kids.

[37:02] I don't know.

[37:04] For the kids.

[37:06] Yeah.

[37:07] No problem.

[37:07] All right.

[37:08] So the Monday following art and wine.

[37:09] We're going to have a crew out to do a touch up of the ribbons.

[37:14] They'll be out there, you know.

[37:16] and picking up pieces of the street that are kind of flaking off and repainting.

[37:22] Like the blue plastic liner.

[37:28] Oh, I see.

[37:30] So, right, oh man.

[37:33] So yeah, they'll be out there doing them touch-ups of it.

[37:36] So we're learning the downtown businesses making sure they're aware.

[37:38] It should be pretty low impact,

[37:40] but they'll be really spot-

[37:42] spot- doing spot touch-ups versus an entire street closure.

[37:45] So, how has the paint performed that I know you, like I got all tire marked and whatever right away?

[37:56] Yeah, you know, it's a highly trafficked area and so it was surprisingly quick how dirty it got and that's from people's building copies and they screens and walking.

[38:08] So, you know, I think it's great, it's demonstrating that it's a pretty well-utilized face,

[38:13] but it is something we're looking at, you know, what's the long term plan for this, what's

[38:17] the maintenance plan that we need to make sure it's looking good, yeah.

[38:22] And I will say when we first evaluated options, we were looking at, you know, something more

[38:28] temporary, something more permanent, because this is something that we were testing out.

[38:32] We kind of took a middle-to-road approach with the products we used, so we learned a lot

[38:37] about the community's interested in and what if we were going to do a permanent, permanent

[38:44] installation, you know, we'd have to look at some materials.

[38:47] It's enough to use, like, for bike lanes and stuff, right?

[38:51] It's not even that.

[38:52] It's nasty.

[38:53] That's fine.

[38:54] I mean, all of it is more workfire, you know, regular cleaning and we do have a maintenance,

[38:59] you know, maintenance plan is regular power washing that happens, but you know, it's a busy

[39:04] downtown.

[39:05] It's a street.

[39:06] It's a street.

[39:07] It is a really good thing.

[39:09] Can I add it about the, you talk about our washing, all that, every time I see these people cleaning,

[39:16] the carpet, the green carpet, well, the games aren't all that.

[39:19] They're really wonderful cleaning that's all cleaning.

[39:22] They scrubbed everything out.

[39:24] You take it granted.

[39:25] You didn't know that from a dirt in there.

[39:27] But it comes out very nice.

[39:28] Yeah, the power rock in this a good job.

[39:31] That was great.

[39:31] What's just that?

[39:33] All right, just a sort of update, we're going to be going to council next week, just to renew

[39:40] the farmers' markets use of lots for an eight.

[39:43] Obviously, since a lot 12 is no longer available as their alternate sites during a 49er home

[39:48] games, lots for an eight have become their news sort of altered it location.

[39:52] So again, farmers' markets will have the transit center, but on those 49er home games, which is about

[40:00] 6 to 8 days a year, there'll be a lot for an eight until that who tells Bill.

[40:06] Well,

[40:12] we will, we've let the farmers market know that there is plan development there and we'll have to work with them to find another location.

[40:21] But given, you know, the size of the lot and the size of the market and therefore for configuration,

[40:26] it is challenging to find a perfect location.

[40:30] We talked, we had a lot of conversations about different sites

[40:33] and we're going to have to continue to think really

[40:36] creatively about where the market extends.

[40:40] You have the dates on when the 900 games are.

[40:44] It's in the staff report,

[40:45] I don't have it on the top of my head.

[40:49] We see a debt lot.

[40:51] I was going to get one time as a one move for the started.

[40:54] We fund.

[40:54] Oh, let's mark it. You, you, you have a history of having been on that line.

[41:03] Yeah, I mean, it was only on four. Right.

[41:09] And so now it's four and they and they will have.

[41:14] They'll be monitoring the street and encouraging people to this broth box that we encourage everyone to be safe.

[41:30] I'm not sure.

[41:33] They never have a math.

[41:34] So it's just an exciting thing.

[41:36] So it's just an exciting thing about now because it's going to be changed.

[41:37] Some people will be.

[41:38] It'll be an exploration.

[41:41] Find new vendors.

[41:42] I think.

[41:44] All right.

[41:45] Some are soccer.

[41:46] So we have made it to, we made it to the far end of the few

[41:49] World Cup which was exciting. And as you know, we had business deals and events, opportunity

[41:54] for play, and then our big weekend, watch party. The mini pitch was wildly successful. So this

[42:01] was a little mini soccer field that we set up next to Sioux Hall and in front of the chamber

[42:05] in the old Wells Fargo lot. This was something that, you know, staff just sort of had this random

[42:11] idea and somehow we were able to make it happen. And I would say it's one of the more successful things

[42:16] that we did for World Cup.

[42:19] There were kids out there every single day.

[42:21] My office overlooks it to the mini-pitch.

[42:24] And so I got to watch kids and families

[42:26] and people coming by in the afternoon,

[42:30] it was really, really exciting to see.

[42:33] And we did some strategic pop-ups.

[42:34] We had a pop-up with the Santa Day earthquakes

[42:37] and they brought a few.

[42:38] There are Mads guys and little blue muppet

[42:42] like character there.

[42:43] And then we actually had some Bay SD players

[42:46] So that photo in the middle, we had two of their players come and they signed autographs

[42:49] and then they ended up jumping into the pitch and playing with the kids, which was really cool.

[42:55] MVLA, the Mountain View, lost out those soccer clubs, came and did some pick-up games.

[43:01] And then we had business pop-ups, so Booksy came and did a taller time, we did yoga with yoga belly.

[43:06] We had stretch labs come and do some stretching of people that came by others as well.

[43:15] but this was just really exciting,

[43:16] and we were able to extend it in extra week

[43:18] because the community loved it so much.

[43:20] But ultimately, if we know we have art and wine coming up

[43:23] and other play activity, so it was not something

[43:25] we were able to do permanently,

[43:27] but it really made for a special couple of weeks having that there.

[43:31] We also had the, put golf course at Fenster Park

[43:35] that saw pretty regular use.

[43:37] We had little score cards that we had to regularly refill,

[43:40] which was a good indicator that it was made with the use.

[43:42] So that was exciting to kind of bring some soccer celebration to another part of the city.

[43:50] And then, of course, we had our week of celebration.

[43:51] So you can see from these photos that it was packed downtown.

[43:56] People were really excited to come together.

[43:58] I heard from a lot of community members, how special it felt,

[44:03] they kind of be in this community space,

[44:06] celebrating and cheering together.

[44:09] It's crazy to think about what that intersection looks like

[44:12] just on an average day and compared to, you know,

[44:15] was literally standing remotely.

[44:18] It was difficult to make it from one to another.

[44:21] So that was really exciting.

[44:24] We had a lot of activities for kids

[44:26] and so we saw people bringing their kids down

[44:28] and people were doing lots of takeout from the restaurants

[44:33] in terms of the entertainment zone.

[44:35] This was one of the larger events.

[44:38] I think we're saying we saw, you know,

[44:41] around 10,000 people coming through over the course of the weekend.

[44:44] So with a big turnout, in terms of the entertainment zone,

[44:50] a couple of things we learned one, we need to promote it more,

[44:53] what exactly it meant, and what attendees could participate.

[44:57] People didn't realize, you know, when I made the announcement.

[45:00] For this speaker, like, hey, you can grab drinks from the office of the people who are like, what, we can? So we need to do a better job of educating and promoting what it is.

[45:08] I will say, you know, in terms of logistics, it was a lot of work to have a every entrance staff to ensure people weren't leaving the area without the hall. And because the way downtown is that up, we had to close, you know, we closed the intersection. We had all of those midblock crossing that either needed to be closed down or staffed.

[45:27] So it's a big lift, staff-wise for this.

[45:30] The other thing is we had the restaurants

[45:33] that serve alcohol, but we didn't account for the businesses

[45:39] that are kind of grocery convenience store businesses

[45:42] who are able to sell alcohol and people can walk out the door.

[45:46] So we had a number of people who were not using the designated cups

[45:50] or had wristband, but were just drinking like a can

[45:53] that they bought from, you know, one of the other businesses in the downtown.

[45:57] And so, became this, you know, a child, it became challenging to try and enforce

[46:02] because there were different ways that people were firing alcohol and some of them were

[46:07] within the confines of the program and some were not.

[46:09] So, we'll have to work through how we navigate that and figure out how we can make sure

[46:15] everyone's getting expanded to the consumer's output.

[46:18] Yeah.

[46:20] Just as a, as a sort of technical question, and obviously, you know, how you write it, that,

[46:28] like, for the article, I mean, we get a firm at, you know, allows, you know, on street

[46:35] drinking.

[46:36] But we don't have to monitor, you know, call the entrances of everything.

[46:40] So is that just the way it was set up, but we could do it to your company and not have to

[46:46] do that?

[46:47] I mean, there's that and maybe zebra car.

[46:50] So we all regard to have signage at all of the areas

[46:55] and because of the scale and type of vendor could was,

[46:58] we felt that we needed to have someone at every entrance.

[47:02] So it's still sort of an archoise.

[47:05] Yeah, we're required to put together safety plan

[47:07] with the police department and so you know,

[47:11] given world connectivity and in bringing a very

[47:14] and we've the optic grouse, we were able to protect that approach.

[47:19] We would evaluate it on a case like a faceist,

[47:21] you know, for something like the makers market.

[47:24] Let's just say for example, we talk with PD

[47:26] about what they feel comfortable with

[47:27] in terms of how we approach the boundary monitoring

[47:30] and safety plans.

[47:32] So it really depends, in this case,

[47:36] we did feel we needed to have boundary problems.

[47:37] Yeah, I mean, yeah, many people and stuff.

[47:40] Then again, rivalries.

[47:43] Yeah, and then the other question is, you know, how much monitoring are we doing through

[47:47] the idea of containment zone? And so that's another piece. I mean, one of the challenges we

[47:51] had is that, you know, the very clear, not allowed to have blasts out in the street and people

[47:56] were, and so they were broken. A lot of, you know, one or two cases, they've been a lot

[48:01] bottle that we had to address. So, you know, it was, it was given how many people were there,

[48:07] it was hard to be doing a lot of enforcement inside the zone.

[48:13] We had eight police officers at each event and they were roaming the event and then

[48:21] tried parking lots and so we had dedicated police staff for each event.

[48:28] I'm curious to only because it was a big conversation beforehand. Was there any comments on the

[48:34] to the glass. We did get some feedback from the businesses that the

[48:38] glass was too small but we didn't hear from the kids.

[48:47] Well again a lot of good

[48:48] lessons learned. We've been directed by Council to come back made way through and

[48:51] look at how we could expand this to allow non city events to activate the

[48:56] entertainment zone. So we're in a process of exploring that.

[49:00] Is there any other or any others on the book?

[49:04] Not at this time, yeah, all right.

[49:09] And then lastly, oh, no, oh, no, I thought you'd done this these times.

[49:13] Oh, I've got a couple more.

[49:14] Oh, oh, yeah, I have something to add to it.

[49:16] Okay.

[49:18] And of course, business promotion with the big piece of this,

[49:20] and we collaborated closely with the chamber around social media

[49:22] promotions and businesses running deals.

[49:25] We had our, you know, again, our summer of soccer map business

[49:30] promotion map, I checked.

[49:32] We had almost 15,000 views, which is really great.

[49:34] And, actually, I've spoken to businesses who, you know,

[49:38] Ava's, or simply support, talked about, you know,

[49:41] they had a 4x increase in revenue over the course of the people world

[49:45] have tournament, which is amazing to see.

[49:47] I think other businesses similarly did, to really well.

[49:51] So, we were seeing that this was great for our businesses

[49:54] and as part of our goal of driving, you know, economic benefit to the community

[49:58] having those increases.

[50:00] From businesses who's good to see. All right, one would we see any, like sales tax reports on.

[50:10] So I just thought Q1 sales tax. And this one's challenging. We hit the people, World Tournament,

[50:17] process over Q2 and Q3. So it'll be a little bit more difficult. But let's see it August now.

[50:24] And I just saw Q1, the probably by the end of the year, I'll see Q2, but again, it'll be, it'll be for me.

[50:37] Yeah.

[50:37] So, I just wanted to add, we missed the poor whole lease.

[50:42] Oh.

[50:43] And if you know, it's been passing a lot of people with some people going to go,

[50:46] they have their own charity, you know, or dogs and all of that.

[50:50] We wrapped their other room down.

[50:52] Yeah, on on bags.

[50:54] people have to be very serious that it is fun watching some of these people have been learning

[51:04] from them to you and then they are getting better.

[51:11] Maybe maybe we can have a next year or so,

[51:15] We can have like, if some other city can form also, and then we can be competing.

[51:22] Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, well, that's been, they ended up extending it to two nights

[51:26] because it was so well participated last year. So we're really great to see.

[51:32] All right, and that ends my presentation. All right, great. And again, and I don't see anybody

[51:40] online. I'll excuse me.

[51:45] Yeah. Well, just for the record.

[51:48] I found that you guys do a fantastic job.

[51:51] I'm very glad this can be this.

[51:55] I only just had a plan of record because as the festival

[51:58] as deep world couples was for a downtown.

[52:01] Is there possibilities to explore other

[52:03] or other sporting events, naturally,

[52:05] internationally, that we could feature at downtown,

[52:07] possibly, whether it's going to be

[52:09] and I'll be based event, or something for the NFL,

[52:13] I'll just come up with what it does.

[52:15] As pointy events are very often not just here in the Mountain Gate,

[52:19] but just throughout the entire area,

[52:21] I think you really grew up to be for the city cat-wide box,

[52:25] whether that's going to be a single bowl, 75 or something like

[52:30] on the blind, just something to think about.

[52:32] Thank you.

[52:33] I mean, certainly if something I'd like to

[52:35] just step up with the downtown businesses,

[52:37] you know, the wash parties were so successful,

[52:38] and so many businesses were able to put TV that and activate their outdoor patio.

[52:43] So it could be really fun to be the game zone.

[52:45] And if the business is wanted to lead that charge,

[52:48] if the city would be supportive, certainly, you know,

[52:51] time to be around the summer.

[52:53] Yeah, super bowls of levels.

[52:55] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[52:57] But we're mild.

[52:59] We'll have dinner.

[53:00] We'll be.

[53:01] Yeah, yeah, we've got to be fall and fucker.

[53:03] I'm certainly not burdened.

[53:04] Stanley God.

[53:08] And, again, if the business is wanted to leave that charge with, you know, kind of helping us create a little fan zone, we'd be supportive of that.

[53:17] I will say, you know, in terms of a city-led watch parties, like we did for the events around the Super Bowl and open the World FEP, those do require fight a bit of staff capacity and resources, and so that is something that this will be Council, but have to evaluate and determine whether they wanted to do that.

[53:35] This year, we were, you know, if you remember council allocated $200 and $95,000 for all of our

[53:42] rope up in Super Bowl activations. And so there was a sizable resources that were erected

[53:49] you to make that happen. And that was also kind of episodic, because the green wise

[53:56] stadium was a venue. That was a big drive up. Yeah, and it's all, and to my point, you know, it's all

[54:03] you know driving the public like I say no and that's not good to. But I like what you're saying

[54:10] out and I think that there are ways of doing that and especially you know also to support some

[54:15] of our lesser-known teams that are just like boundaries for example who are just having amazing

[54:21] you know one of the things like that and so whereas we might not get 10 people but to get a thousand

[54:26] he's all supportive and have that energy and I think it could be a really exciting to attack to

[54:32] Amanda's point, we've advanced at, you know, and understand that, you know, there's all licensing and all that sort of things that would have to be, you know, another education thing in terms of how you promote it and all that, and I think they're a wonderful ways of.

[54:46] Okay.

[54:49] Well then, let's move on to item 7.

[54:53] Be business.

[54:55] And it's our annual 7.1 business improvement area, and you will renew.

[55:00] So it comes around again. And so just by way of background, we have two business improvement areas, also shortened to BIA. So our first BIA with established in 1983, and it includes, you know, pretty much the, everything in the red, in the red box there. So it more or less aligns with the downtown precise plan, although it's ever so slightly different just to really add. Just a little bit of, um,

[55:30] confusion for that. But you can see it, it includes all of the businesses in that

[55:35] right area. And then BIA number two was created and so that is the shaded light

[55:41] blue area. That was created in 1991. And that one really just covers the one two

[55:47] and 300 blocks, the real four of downtown. And you know, it was sort of determined

[55:52] with those of the businesses that received the highest benefit from the, from the

[55:59] should be assessed at a higher rate because they're receiving a higher rate of benefit.

[56:06] And the effectments are really, again, based on the type of incident, you know, so it

[56:11] will be a restaurant, retail, professional, professional thought, you know, like an office space

[56:17] and then VIA number two takes it one set further and looks at the type of

[56:21] business, but then also the square footage as well.

[56:26] And so on average, the fee assessed is $176 per business per year.

[56:33] That's on average.

[56:34] The minimum we've seen is 50, and the maximum is less than $400, so over the course of

[56:39] a year, this is a pretty small assessment, and this should be updated, it should actually be

[56:44] $60,000 in revenue, you've seen the VA grow on average about $5,000 a year, so I'm sure

[56:57] that you can grow it to, it's a very small assessment given the costs and the scope

[57:04] or the downtown business association, it's a very small revenue generated.

[57:13] It's certainly better than nothing, but, you know,

[57:15] if we're seeing comparatively based on the needs

[57:17] that we're hearing from the businesses

[57:19] and the community in terms of what they think

[57:20] is being down town continues to be challenging

[57:25] to several all the cops.

[57:27] And if you can, I'm going to say, well, to the reason

[57:30] that the chamber actually was asked to take over

[57:34] the operational end of the day, because the DB8

[57:37] couldn't be closed.

[57:39] So, yeah, I'm adjusted for inflation, I mean,

[57:42] And if a word adjusted for inflation, it might be several hundred thousand dollars

[57:48] in the year, it doesn't pose to 50 to 60.

[57:53] Or look at another way, it's actually about 10 cents of five per hour.

[57:59] Well, and the other piece about the IIT that's important in a number of you have heard this

[58:03] before, but for the record, is that the IIT has very strict rules on how it will

[58:10] employee and it really can only be used for marketing and the downtown businesses have needed

[58:18] especially during COVID that since then, you know, so much more than just marketing

[58:22] equipment. There's a lot of advocacy that we do on behalf of the downtown for example.

[58:28] And so I do believe the downtown businesses have benefited by fact that the chamber has kind

[58:34] of used our whole suite of resources even though it, you know, we're supplemented basically

[58:38] supplement, but we would get from the BIA, but just to use that money for marketing, I mean,

[58:43] as Mike says, adjusted for inflation, you know, that doesn't, that's barely, you know,

[58:48] cover, you know, that or to kind of think. And so the fact that we could use our, uh,

[58:52] the chamber resources, uh, really, really helps the, uh, the, uh, the, the, the, the, the,

[58:57] the, and I will say, um, you know, we are currently looking, uh, to do a broader analysis of

[59:04] our various districts and improvement areas. So we also have the parking, maintenance, district,

[59:08] which you looked at a couple months ago and then the IAA and these were all forms,

[59:14] you know, these were formed in the 80s and 90s. I believe the parking maintenance

[59:18] district was formed back in the 60s. So we've had these on the books a long time and

[59:23] so we'd like to do some analysis of, you know, if there are better ways, there are combined

[59:28] district, how can we best, you know, resource the downtown or the kinds of things that

[59:34] from the community and the down down to the visit that they want to see. So we're hoping to look at this strategically and really see if there are different models that we could deploy here.

[59:46] And so just a note of next steps. So we'll have the first public hearing next week's council meeting.

[59:53] So I think that's it is for Council on this view.

[59:57] We'll review the, for some programming.

[59:59] I think included the,

[1:00:00] September, report as an attachment in this packet. They can receive any comments and then they'll, for

[1:00:06] luminarily, approve the report and then set a second hearing date to, particularly, the assessment.

[1:00:15] So, the second public hearing will be off to over 13. That will be when council gets the final approval. The

[1:00:21] this assessment and allocate at 2027 funds. 2027 funds from both BIAs to the chamber.

[1:00:35] All right, that concludes my presentation.

[1:00:38] Any additional questions on that?

[1:00:42] I have a question.

[1:00:42] Yeah, on page 7,

[1:00:47] there's a downtown business infrastructure, revenue in four tickets.

[1:00:53] So in 2025,

[1:00:56] a total of past three lives that are on the revenue of 109,000, wonderful.

[1:01:02] The expenses of 166,000 for a net income.

[1:01:11] and then forecast, October 5th, 2026, renews and anticipated at 251,000 and expenses at

[1:01:26] 249,000 or 250.

[1:01:28] So why the dramatic is 40% increase in anticipated spendage?

[1:01:35] Excellent question.

[1:01:37] Last year, the chamber took it over after the deaths of Stines.

[1:01:42] It was our first time doing it.

[1:01:44] And Stines be us a lot of time.

[1:01:48] We have thousands of signs from Stines.

[1:01:53] Decorations.

[1:01:55] There is a lot of material that is passed on.

[1:01:58] And now we're having it, I don't do it scratchy with us.

[1:02:04] The other thing that should be noted about October Fest,

[1:02:07] I hope you all will find it, is that we've expanded the footprint.

[1:02:11] We've basically doubled the floor space.

[1:02:14] And so that has that sort of cost associated with it.

[1:02:17] So looking forward, though, is October Fest something that can be sustained,

[1:02:26] based on that's going to be in a different, you don't have the same facility,

[1:02:29] the same footprint, and I'd say, you know, that's a wonderful question, Dan, and it's

[1:02:36] one that we are wrestling with right now, especially those who've involved with a lot,

[1:02:40] a lot of us.

[1:02:42] How do we position it?

[1:02:43] How do we do it?

[1:02:46] So that remains to be seen.

[1:02:47] We need to look and make sure that this is sustainable.

[1:02:49] It's not just something we're just going to do to, right?

[1:02:52] Yeah, that's a wonderful event.

[1:02:56] It's not a charitable organization.

[1:03:02] Any other questions on 7.1, and still no, or public elements you're here, and you think you want to lay on this?

[1:03:16] I just have a thought, because it's back to the violations point of that.

[1:03:20] It feels like they're like, another thing, another event being really fun.

[1:03:23] It's a great time in year two. Watch Madness.

[1:03:27] Just saying.

[1:03:28] Because they're much badness.

[1:03:30] We've got to be like your pants.

[1:03:34] I mean, all the fun stuff.

[1:03:36] All right.

[1:03:37] Then we will close item 7.1.

[1:03:41] And move on to item 8.

[1:03:44] I'm ready.

[1:03:45] In the past, we're taking a vote on this.

[1:03:47] Could we just...

[1:03:48] Oh, sure.

[1:03:49] Yeah.

[1:03:49] Well, our base vote.

[1:03:50] So, we both on the recommendation of the BIA brand new law, would be appreciate it.

[1:04:02] Learning motion first.

[1:04:04] That's second.

[1:04:06] Are you making the motion?

[1:04:08] I'm not making.

[1:04:09] I'm as chair.

[1:04:10] I'm inviting a question.

[1:04:12] So, I know that we accept the report.

[1:04:17] And recommend the council.

[1:04:19] So, that the report key of the second note.

[1:04:24] Okay, seconded by Jamil, any discussion?

[1:04:29] The pointy, do you see?

[1:04:31] Probably.

[1:04:33] I mean, I don't think you have to, but maybe just heard it.

[1:04:35] Do you think we have a forum?

[1:04:38] I guess we do.

[1:04:39] Yeah.

[1:04:39] I think we could even within it.

[1:04:41] It makes a forum call.

[1:04:46] Okay, there is there any public input on the motion, all right, all in favor say I, I thank you the opposed and the abstentions.

[1:05:00] So just a reminder that our next meeting will be in November for our calendars. We will not be in October and we will be each other the first Tuesday in November.

[1:05:09] and what things is that?

[1:05:13] First, Monday, Thursday, Thursday,

[1:05:16] Thursday, I'm November.

[1:05:17] That's what the fire is.

[1:05:18] Action day.

[1:05:18] But third, then is left with that.

[1:05:21] For this, then we go, you all have to vote in the afternoon.

[1:05:25] And I want to go all in to that.

[1:05:26] I'm going to be calling your vote.

[1:05:28] No, all in to the meeting.

[1:05:31] So if you haven't voted by the election,

[1:05:34] all of a sudden, but I mean, we are no longer allowed to do

[1:05:38] I think there are special circumstances, where are we going?

[1:05:44] Yeah.

[1:05:45] There's all sorts of rules around that.

[1:05:47] I mean, you can still do your emergency.

[1:05:50] Right.

[1:05:50] Join it.

[1:05:51] Yeah.

[1:05:51] You can still call and listen in, but I don't think it technically sounds.

[1:05:55] What about December?

[1:05:57] And then we don't need this ever.

[1:05:59] So November will be our last meeting up here.

[1:06:03] So, some business that mentioned that we can have meetings up in their business, you know,

[1:06:14] off-site, down to committee.

[1:06:17] You know, honey.

[1:06:19] And speaking to that, I think there was a note about people going to attend the downtown

[1:06:26] business meetings.

[1:06:28] How do we, if, for person, one of us wanted to attend, how do we get notice?

[1:06:36] The downtown business association meeting, they meet you here remind me the second Tuesday of the month, and I believe there's a mailing list so if you reach out to the chamber, they can add you to the downtown business association.

[1:06:51] How under invited or mailing list, that's correct.

[1:06:53] Yeah, I'll send you.

[1:06:55] Thank you.

[1:06:57] Okay, anything else in item eight?

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