[0:08] Let's call to order the January 12th meeting of the M Township Board of

[0:12] Trustees. And we'll start with Judgement

[0:19] to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it

[0:24] stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice

[0:30] for all.

[0:38] » Okay. Uh the the supervisor is not feeling well today, so he's not going to

[0:42] be here and so um I guess we need a motion for me to run the meeting.

[0:48] Is that correct? Thank you, Mike. All in favor? I

[1:02] I can pause while I take notes as well. >> Okay. Call the Republic at

[1:08] » Can you do roll call? >> Yes, I should do a roll call. Well, I

[1:11] just wrote it down. Okay. Um, thank you. Um, Bobby

[1:17] » here is here. Trusty Gorgi

[1:22] » here, >> Trusty Lind

[1:24] » here, >> and uh the clerk is here. And as I said,

[1:29] the um supervisor is not feeling well tonight.

[1:33] All right, we'll call have a call to the public at 6:30,

[1:39] 3 minutes each. Anybody have any comments?

[1:44] Um the roads in popularity in the winter

[1:51] u do we have a contract or something which can road commission to follow?

[1:57] Well, the Royal Commission that does plow

[2:01] » is there a contract or something or >> No, they just

[2:05] » they just do it. >> That's they do it excessively if you ask

[2:09] me. >> I mean like quarter of an inch of snow

[2:12] they're piling and salting and they don't charge us anything.

[2:17] » No, not really. >> Wow.

[2:21] » So, is this a good or a bad company? I know you have.

[2:23] » Well, that's that's good. But I I'm wondering why they do what they do. I

[2:29] mean, I've lived here all my life, but I've never seen it like it is now.

[2:34] » And dump days.

[2:38] » Dump days. >> I see we're having two on the east side

[2:41] and one over here. >> Yes, he was able to get Laz was able to

[2:44] get a dump day in May. Uh and so, but only one. So he decided we'd do it on

[2:51] the east side for the first year and then next year we'd do it on the west

[2:55] side. We'd alternate the May dump day. Of course, anybody can go to either dump

[3:01] day, whether you live on the east side or the west side, you can drive over to

[3:04] the east side uh for the May dump day as well. But then the next year we'll have

[3:10] the May dump day here in Tent. >> All right. Thanks,

[3:16] » Dave. My name's Dave Jacqueline. I've lived in the township for over 30 years.

[3:22] I voted in a new board five years ago. It was my opinion that the old board got

[3:26] too complacent. At that time, a new fireh hall was anticipated, but was

[3:32] never developed. Uh granted, L uh the roads have improved

[3:37] during your tenure, but you and Mike Corky's interest in attending paid

[3:41] meetings for the sake of attending paid meetings was unacceptable.

[3:46] This township has a very capable fire chief and some very capable board

[3:51] members that can advance the process of of developing and updating the fire

[3:58] hall. Land Mike Gorki should get out of the way and stop repeating the progress

[4:03] those on the board that can make this and other benefits to the township have.

[4:08] I would think it's beneficial to keep the firewall item on the agenda each

[4:13] monthly meeting so we can measure its progress.

[4:18] And could you please post this letter? >> Will you give me a copy of that?

[4:32] » Anyone else?

[4:36] There will be another opportunity for public comment at the end.

[4:41] So,

[4:44] okay. So, we have our agenda in front of us. Now's the time to either approve or

[4:50] and to revise the agenda. Do I have a motion to approve or item?

[4:56] » I'll make the motion to approve as stated.

[5:01] » Any second? Okay. All in favor?

[5:13] Then we also have for next item is the approval of the minutes from the board

[5:16] of trustee meeting from December 8, 2025.

[5:21] You guys had a chance to read those.

[5:28] Any discussion? All in favor?

[5:33] Motion pass.

[5:38] Um, next you guys got your board of packets. The um bills that we have paid

[5:44] from uh the 1st of October, the 1st of

[5:49] December to I think the 12th list there

[5:55] had a chance to approve all those home voices. So we have a motion. You have

[5:59] any questions? first of all about >> I had one question and why electric

[6:04] seemed way higher than previously >> I didn't notice that but it might have

[6:10] been an actual rather than an estimate but I didn't notice the

[6:15] » I mean it should be pretty consistent >> yeah

[6:20] the lighting itself >> yeah the electric for the lighting the

[6:24] actual electric bill >> which that includ feet, right? I talk

[6:28] about for the library or for >> for the lighting.

[6:31] » For for which one? I think we had two two lighting bills. Was it the $800 one?

[6:37] » So, yes. >> Okay. So you get about $800 that exam

[6:41] every month >> and it might have been the estimate

[6:50] because

[6:59] the Christmas tree

[7:05] and and the other decor I

[7:11] Do I have a um motion to favor those motion?

[7:16] » Second.

[7:21] All in favor?

[7:28] » Okay. Next is the is the monthly treasur report. All right. Cash on hand. 567,000

[7:36] $279.37.

[7:39] Um, we did get all of our final documents from the auditor who finally

[7:45] sent me the general journal to get rid of that negative command.

[7:50] That would be the last time you're seeing that on. So that line disappears

[7:55] but lighting.

[8:02] So

[8:07] do I have a motion to accept and file

[8:12] any additional questions? All all in favor I

[8:23] all receive a quarter uh work report.

[8:29] Uh you can see because we're doing very well. Um this is the 75% of the budget

[8:34] on the far right you can see 75% of the budget has been um

[8:40] um expenditures and so you say the general fund we're right at 75.4 four.

[8:45] So, we're right on as far as uh the budget. Uh fire department is way under

[8:50] budget of course. Um liquor fund right on budget. Uh street light fund and

[8:56] that's completely uh wiped out. So, you can see that's 100%. Library fund is

[9:01] under budget 35 65% of the budget. So, all funds were at 61%. So, we're right

[9:07] on schedule as far as um following our budget.

[9:13] Do I have a motion to file on acceptance report?

[9:17] » Second. >> All in favor? I think that I do want to

[9:23] add one more thing. S mentioned that we finally got our um audit. Um they were

[9:31] way way behind, but we did a little

[9:36] and we got an email from the state saying where was it? So we forwarded

[9:41] that and that's really the light fire I know. So we got the budget before um

[9:47] basically we got the significant audit matters before they said we've

[9:52] encountered no significant difficulties in dealing with management performing

[9:55] and completing our audit. Uh they said we're pleased to report that no

[9:59] disagreements um arose during the course of our audit. Um you'll all get a bal

[10:06] copy next month so that you can review that. The only thing that they said was

[10:10] they say every audit it's a material um audit um adjustment that they consider a

[10:16] material weakness and they they consider it in every small township that we only

[10:21] have five people to see it. And so you know we basically

[10:28] tell them uh the clerk and the treasurer u you do each other you the clerk and

[10:34] the treasurer. So that's the best we can do. We don't have anybody else that can

[10:39] that can uh follow up on it and we have an auditor every two years and we have

[10:44] an S5 every year. So um they always say this and they always say as in the case

[10:50] of the many small and even size governmental units. The township has

[10:54] historically relied on an independent external auditor which is them to assist

[10:59] with the preparation of the financial document. And it'd be really wonderful

[11:04] if we had they say this um somebody else that could annually do our financial

[11:10] statement decide to we have to hire we have to hire somebody else.

[11:16] So, but we this is this is a a very common um

[11:22] everybody everybody gets it and they but what they say is our response to the

[11:28] township first with this fine either on this and we will we will require

[11:34] appropriate sign offs with the second response person

[11:38] which we do religiously. I mean Bobby uh when she when she balances accounts I

[11:46] sign off then I write in we issue launch she signed off you guys sign off. So we

[11:52] have the best. So the audit went very well. So like I

[11:58] said next month you guys will get on top and it'll be filed really straight

[12:06] up. That's that's good.

[12:11] And then Bobby we are we balanced Bobby. We are balanced. So yeah.

[12:19] » All righty. So um next is our annual fire department report from our

[12:26] fire chief. >> I'll uh I'll do the last quarter first.

[12:31] » Okay. um

[12:34] for that last quarter, 19 runs, 12 of them were fired, seven of them were

[12:39] helping the ambulance. And of those 19 runs, eight were here on the top of the

[12:44] east side, one was on the East Mullet side, nine were in Burke Township and

[12:50] one um one structure fire for mutual outside of our districts. Um Bert one

[12:55] was unfortunately that double fatal fire on Eagles Nest

[13:00] and then the uh the actual call on east the east side was a significant fire

[13:05] with a vehicle fire.

[13:10] » Now the other two uh total packets I gave you the one was the 2025 totals to

[13:17] kind of round out East Mullet for the first six months prior to the merger.

[13:22] And during that time they ended with 27 runs.

[13:29] Um, two of them were fires. They had some brush runs or brush fires there in

[13:32] the spring. Two of them were assisting the ambulance.

[13:36] Four of them were nuisance alarms. I would guess almost to the same house for

[13:40] a fire alarm going off. And then they had 19 runs between power lines and gas

[13:46] leaks. And that also includes the days they went out doing the door to door for

[13:50] the ice storm stuff. Of those 27 runs, all of them were in

[13:57] their own territory. They did not have any mutual aid runs.

[14:03] » Uh total for 2025 for top

[14:09] » we ended up there. You can see total 15 fires,

[14:15] 31 times helping the ambulance, 16 runs doing car accidents or search

[14:21] and rescue, eight runs doing water or ice rescue,

[14:27] 24 kind of those nuisance alarms of fire alarms and

[14:31] smoke investigations, and then 61 runs being gas leaks and power lines with the

[14:37] majority of them being all power lines. That is 40% of the problem last year.

[14:41] » And most of those are turning the ice. >> Yes, sir.

[14:45] » Um that breaks down to 44 runs over the year in Bert Township, 92 runs here on

[14:52] the top in the Bside, 10 runs over to East Mullet, and eight runs out to our

[14:57] mutual aid partners. And then you can kind of see in the next

[15:02] few pages how all those runs break down into uh each individual area.

[15:09] Um again, only really running outside of our district for structured fires. And

[15:12] we did get called by the sheriff's department for one missing person

[15:17] that we went and walked through the woods for.

[15:22] That was 2025. >> Excellent.

[15:27] » Any questions, comments, concerns, others? How how are the merger going?

[15:32] » The merger >> um merger is going good. Uh the the car

[15:39] fire I'm still so with central everything runs through

[15:45] GIS in the phone system. Charavoy County used to do all the GIS work for CCE and

[15:53] they decided that they want each individual county to do their own GIS

[15:58] work and help. And nothing against our county GIS lady because she really is

[16:04] truly amazing, but she's never done this and isn't sure. EMTT's running into the

[16:09] same problem. Um, so they haven't got us all down to one page yet. Um, every time

[16:16] I'm at I'm at a TAC meeting every other month over there and it's I mean just

[16:21] talked about it again last Thursday that we're hopefully getting it narrowed down

[16:26] and the Charlotte lady was going to call over and see if she needed any help. So

[16:31] with that, this car fire that we went to in East Mullet, for whatever reason, um,

[16:38] Central screwed up. They paged East Mullet and Tuscarura.

[16:44] We uh we got notified about 10 minutes late to the party.

[16:49] With that 10-minute delay, we pulled up with East Mullet's pumper 3

[16:54] minutes behind Tuscar's pumper. And I can I don't think he's watching

[17:02] this video. I can say that two fire engines went to the scene and one of

[17:07] them was able to navigate the scene back out without getting stuck and it was not

[17:12] ours. >> [laughter]

[17:13] » So, um I'm happy with that. We got four or five guys there. If we would have

[17:19] been paged when we were supposed to, we'd have beat Tuser there. So, it will

[17:22] work. >> Um

[17:24] » Why'd you get all the bugs >> once we get the cakes worked out of

[17:27] that? >> Excellent. Great.

[17:29] » And I even drove a red fire truck. >> You drove a red fire truck.

[17:33] » It was on the way. It was easier to pick that up than take one of mine. So,

[17:38] » great. Um, other than that, still uh still working some kicks out with the

[17:43] training. Still kind of trying to see how they want or that fine line of what

[17:50] uh what we're doing together and what we're doing individual so that there is

[17:53] still some say over there and not making everybody come each way each time. Um

[17:59] like I said, hopefully we can get to summer and kind of hammer that out when

[18:03] we start training. >> I'm sure you again. I'm sure you're you

[18:07] will definitely handle that. >> And dodging snow.

[18:09] » Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Mike. Any questions for Mike?

[18:13] » Thank you.

[18:17] » Judy, you have a report for us? Just a little one because it's pretty quiet.

[18:22] » This weather's been slow. I know. >> I hear from your assistant wife. Yeah.

[18:26] » But it's doing a great job. Um, yeah, we're just, uh, Jim and I just

[18:31] pretty much wrapping up state day, which, uh,

[18:34] » the deadline's coming up in February. Um, we've limited the hours just a

[18:39] little bit more kind of, you know, if there's a day where you get just a

[18:42] handful of people, then we make that day smaller and try to just kind of hour.

[18:48] » Exactly. And along with people, no, because we have to, you know, they're at

[18:51] the desk usually or whatever. So, they're fine. Um then this winter I'll

[18:56] do some slight, you know, but do a little bit of light weeding and do the

[19:00] things in the winter that I can't ever get done in summer. Just go through, you

[19:03] know, get things changed, whatever we want to do.

[19:06] » And starting to work on the summer booking events like never too early.

[19:11] » Have you have you admin? >> Oh, she's always

[19:15] » She's tied in. Okay. >> He leaves it. She's tied in. You know,

[19:18] you got her good. >> Yes. So other than that, yeah,

[19:21] everything's going really good and just yeah, just kind of, you know, getting

[19:25] things ready for the big rush come summer.

[19:28] » Excellent. Thank you. >> Any questions for Judy?

[19:32] » Yes. Okay. Unfinished business. Uh, number

[19:36] one on our agenda is committee assignments. So, we're still hanging

[19:41] loose. We have not appointed our um our cemetery uh and committee boards. Um Laz

[19:48] was going to call the attorney and do some additional research, but I don't

[19:52] believe he did that. However, I did take a um

[19:57] a training session with the MTA. Uh it was a webinar called wait who was

[20:02] supposed to do that. So certainly um found out that the board has to vote to

[20:09] approve these additional duties. the board member doing the additional duties

[20:12] must accept the additional work and uh the additional duties may be removed at

[20:17] any time and the board member can uh say I don't want to do it anymore at any

[20:23] time. So basically that is the way it goes. Um

[20:28] so we still have a couple of um we have to assign these for the coming year. Uh

[20:34] the first one, let's do the easy one first is the um birch rail committee.

[20:40] I make a motion that consider jo

[21:01] accepted it. So let's take a vote. All in favor say I. I. So Mike, you're I

[21:08] mean Bob Brett, you are um appointed.

[21:14] Um Oakill Cemetery Board, that's the one that we have. We are we are um

[21:20] we don't have anybody now. Mike has been doing it in the past. Mike, are you

[21:24] willing to do it now? >> No, I I resigned the end of October and

[21:29] I stand by my decision.

[21:36] Uh we are um committed uh by ordinance to have a board member um sit on that

[21:43] board. Uh it cannot be um an interested citizen or it cannot be a

[21:51] deputy. So um we do have to have a board member

[21:55] on that board.

[22:01] Well, I um have been doing some research and talking to some people about that

[22:07] board and um I think there's a lot that I personally didn't know till we board

[22:13] last year. And so I would be willing until we can come up with some other

[22:19] solution. I would like to try as I think I mentioned at the last meeting had the

[22:25] board they have the annual board meeting where all the boards go Um, I don't

[22:30] know. >> We weren't aware of it last year. We

[22:32] were not. We've never been notified by the vet who had Yeah. So, I would like

[22:36] to see if we could possibly get this down to a quarterly situation. think

[22:43] meeting monthly for a sanitary board. Same concept of um Mike has indicated

[22:48] that they always are busy but um so I wouldn't mind I would take the

[22:53] appointment because they're setting up the new schedule. They're doing the

[22:57] budget. Um so I would take it. I'm not going to

[23:01] take it probably to the full year though unless they will change. Okay. So, but

[23:07] I'm willing to learn more. I think that help. And I think that we might as well

[23:12] um we'll do this first. Um do I have a motion to to appoint Bobby

[23:17] as the um as the board members who represent us?

[23:24] » We're kind of done with our Yeah, we if nobody We have three board members doing

[23:29] everything. We have three board members to We have three board members doing

[23:33] five board members jobs. So,

[23:38] » okay. So, Brett will make that motion. Do I have a second?

[23:43] » Did you change? >> Um, all in favor?

[23:48] » I. >> And you'll know that they're meeting on

[23:50] Wednesday to appoint them chair and to do their budgeting. And maybe you can

[23:55] say, can we meet for the week? And I guess there are a lot of things that we

[23:59] haven't known that we were supposed to meet once a year. Our whole board was

[24:02] supposed to meet once a year. We didn't know that. and we didn't know that

[24:05] resourceful terms the budget. So I mean so we have some things that we need to

[24:09] catch up on. Okay. Thank you. And all in favor?

[24:12] » I and then when things settle down when Lass is feeling better uh we'll see if

[24:18] um we can what we can do. Uh and so um that leaves the Bullet Cemetery Board

[24:24] and I think that we'll have u we need two members for that. So, I would

[24:29] nominate uh or say that Brett and Bobby should do that since they're kind of the

[24:34] cemetery. They're building some knowledge on the

[24:37] cemeteries. So, you guys are willing to do that?

[24:42] » We'll have Brett and Bobby be our two on that one.

[24:46] » It's going to be a little bit once a year.

[24:51] » Maybe more than once a year >> since

[24:55] Harold passed away. We're trying to make sense of everything

[25:00] that >> He put a lot in his head, didn't he?

[25:03] » He didn't. He didn't uh

[25:07] you didn't pre-record any pass away.

[25:13] » So Brett and Bobby will be our two reps there.

[25:17] I mean, what do you make motion? I made the motion. Yes. Thank you. You made the

[25:23] motion. We have a second. Second it. We can uh all in favor.

[25:31] So we got those taken care of. Thank you.

[25:36] So I will send five of our minutes. Please Lisa know that our new

[25:42] appointment number. Okay. So under current business,

[25:48] let's start with the ranch road project.

[25:53] Now, this slab was baby, but I think that what the motion committee wanted us

[25:58] to pass was that we were willing to spend $85,100.

[26:04] Is that the way you guys read this lady sent us?

[26:07] » $85,100 for our half of Ranch Road for the rest

[26:12] of Branch Road. Right. >> You probably could explain this because

[26:15] you were actually at the meeting. Is there anything? Um well, of course the

[26:22] numbers are different than what they had.

[26:24] » Okay. >> They're a little bit better because

[26:28] it's a little bit confused on where in terms of it being split right and

[26:33] » everything. Um, but yeah, I mean it's we uh we do

[26:40] have the portion of finishing, but then there's that other half that's being

[26:44] split exactly between and volunteer

[26:58] » 15 years. >> Yeah. Um

[27:01] » so according to this chart the our portion is 253

[27:05] the our share of our half >> only our portion

[27:09] » yeah and then the share that we're sharing with vert is 598 correct

[27:14] » so our cost is $85,100

[27:19] » so um I'll make that motion that we uh authorize

[27:25] that

[27:28] I'll see on the body. >> No, I don't have the the copy of

[27:34] contract, but I'll email Laz and tell me that we approved it. If you can get it

[27:38] to us, then >> Okay, I'll

[27:44] » pass. Good. I think we pretty much decided this last meeting anyway, now

[27:48] that we got the numbers. Okay, now does everybody have a copy of this true green

[27:54] estimate? >> Yes.

[27:55] » Okay. I put some numbers down at the bottom. Uh, and J, you might be

[27:59] interested in this because it's your area over by the library. Uh, they've

[28:04] offered us a a prepaid option of $887.84.

[28:09] And you can see what they do. Um, they do late spring, early summer, late fall.

[28:14] Now, I do say that area looks beautiful. The grass is is lush. They control the

[28:20] grubs. Um, and I put that at the bottom. In 21

[28:26] it was 122. You can see now it's 152. In 22 it was 128. 23 it was 136. 24 was

[28:35] 142. 25 was 147. So you can see the progression of what we paid every year

[28:40] as as to >> yeah everything. So I didn't I I didn't

[28:44] want to make a decision to if it's a prepay and it's $915

[28:50] the prepay784. What do you think as a board you think

[28:55] » is that on this year or next year? >> This will be starting the first one will

[28:59] be late spring. So it'll be next year's budget.

[29:03] » Do we have money? Can it be prepaid this year?

[29:07] » Just Oh, good question. Um >> if if we had the money any prepaid it in

[29:13] the spring it'd still be the spring. >> Yeah.

[29:16] » Um >> when do they want us?

[29:19] » Well, it doesn't have a date. >> No, they sent it to me.

[29:22] » I bet they're expecting. >> Yeah, they sent it to member.

[29:27] So, I think if we responded to it and paid it, then they would honor this. Let

[29:31] me see what we've got left in um >> mean we may not have that amount

[29:36] available in that. >> Well, let's see.

[29:38] park maintenance. >> Um, we were doing pretty good in park

[29:42] maintenance, I think. Uh, what is we have left?

[29:50] Um, yeah, we've still we've still got 85 almost $8,600 in park maintenance. Now,

[29:55] of course, we're still going to have um ongoing expenses there.

[30:02] » Jody is buying a lot of salt. >> Yeah. at that time of year. But I think

[30:08] we can I think we can afford $897 if you guys think it's worth it. I mean the

[30:15] grass is for ups in pretty good. >> It looks beautiful over there, don't you

[30:19] think, J? I think so. >> I think they do a pretty good job with

[30:22] that >> for up north. It's pretty good.

[30:26] » Yeah. The only question would be there's not I mean there's got to be another

[30:30] company that does it, but is there anyone that would want to check the

[30:34] brand new prices? I don't know. So I don't know

[30:37] » I'll tell you >> and you can see basically the grass the

[30:40] gr preventative one is you know and then the other one's a fertilizer draw we

[30:46] control >> I mean they know what they're doing

[30:49] » true absorb Scott's lawn service a while ago so there's one less big player

[30:58] » out there so you would have to go to somebody more vocal and smaller to get

[31:03] competitive bids >> and we do know that they that they've

[31:05] had we've had good results with what they've done.

[31:08] » Yeah. >> I don't think we want to stop doing it.

[31:11] » It would just be a matter if we wanted to know. But if we like them

[31:16] doing it for >> Yeah. 21. That's Well, that's because we

[31:20] had uh

[31:24] as far back. Yeah. >> Okay.

[31:29] » All right. So, Brett, you're going to give me a motion to go ahead and do

[31:32] this. Anybody want? >> Yeah.

[31:34] » Thank you. >> Okay. So, we're going to go ahead and do

[31:37] it.

[31:42] » All right. All in favor? I

[31:48] Great. Um, also, uh, we got a call, I got a

[31:53] call, I guess it was Thursday, that, um, Dave

[31:58] Corbin is retiring. He's the guy who does our following on the east side, the

[32:03] fireball. And so, he's had a guy that's been his

[32:07] partner. He's taking over the account service. So he sent me a

[32:14] uh I agree to snow plowy snow fire ball

[32:20] every three inches or more a snow accumulates for uh for $40 per pl for

[32:24] the remainder of the 25 26 season and the price will stay the same for next

[32:28] season. Uh he sent me a W9 and he was going to send me his insurance but I

[32:35] haven't gotten that yet. Uh, I asked um Mike about it and he had another uh

[32:43] idea, another guy that was willing to plow as well.

[32:46] » Well, I don't I just know Caleb Deoy's on our department and he did plow it a

[32:51] couple times when Dave had him or whatever was going

[32:56] this year. >> Okay. So, and he was he he how much is

[33:01] he charging the same amount? >> Yes.

[33:04] » $20 a follow. and uh >> is insured.

[33:08] » He is insured as well. And I guess we'd have to find out will

[33:13] he do whatever for sanctioning every 3 in or whatever.

[33:18] So I guess do we want to make the decision? Do we want to leave that to

[33:21] Mike to make a decision? How do we want to go

[33:30] » fire doing it? Well, for I mean

[33:36] Mike, if he's got some way they can do it, especially if it's fire,

[33:42] » as long as it doesn't interfere with other stuff he's got going on, you know,

[33:48] if he's got another job, >> right?

[33:53] Does K do it do pling professionally or is it just something he does? Does he

[33:57] got a flaw in his truck? >> I think both.

[34:00] » Both bust. He's got insurance. So, they're doing I know I know him and his

[34:04] brother were doing some landscaping at one point.

[34:06] » Okay. >> I'm guessing that's why they got their

[34:08] insurance and >> Okay. So, so does anybody want to make a

[34:12] motion that >> when's when's Mr. Bman like effective

[34:16] now? >> Effective now. Yeah. His wife has got

[34:18] cancer and she's having a mctomy on Thursday.

[34:22] » Okay.

[34:25] Because we got more snow coming this week.

[34:27] » I know. Wednesday. So, do we want to leave it with Mike to make the

[34:31] arrangement or

[34:35] » something also do you want? >> I we'll do whatever you guys want to do.

[34:41] It's either that or just leave it >> or we leave it

[34:45] » for for this season. I mean, you have three months left.

[34:51] » You know, you got February, March, whatever,

[34:56] » April, >> whatever you guys want. I if it's

[34:59] getting plowed, I'm I'm happy. So, >> yeah,

[35:03] » hopefully only two months. >> Yeah,

[35:07] » it sounds like it'd be seamless to go with this guy's partner for right now.

[35:12] » He took over if he's taking over all of his business.

[35:15] » Yeah. >> And then we could

[35:19] we can see how he does >> supporting someone who's supporting.

[35:21] » I like the idea of the fireman doing it. But if we finish out the contract with

[35:25] this guy since he sent me that information,

[35:28] » he was quite quick to send me the the uh W9. And of course, I don't have his

[35:32] insurance yet. >> I mean, I guess I would stay with

[35:38] what we have. He's he's familiar with it at least for the seasonal. And then we

[35:42] can said see how he see how he does.

[35:48] That's how it's a little stick. We'll go with Nicholas.

[35:57] provided he sent to the insurance was nice enough though when I was a little

[36:02] confused he did he did but we haven't seen the bill

[36:06] » which was he didn't build a lot though I think it's looking

[36:10] » and he got the time on the parking lot >> did you did you find some place to put

[36:14] that >> it's um

[36:17] frustrating okay good >> seemed better than the parking lots

[36:21] » [snorts]

[36:24] » Okay, the next uh So, we're gonna We don't Do we need a vote on the Nicholas

[36:28] thing or just >> Okay, I will call Well, I think Nicholas

[36:34] Sexy he's going to continue. So, okay. All right.

[36:38] » That way nobody that way no one has to say.

[36:41] » Yeah. Right. I will call and say I still haven't gotten your shirt. So,

[36:46] um the sec the next thing on the agenda was the drain issue with the maintenance

[36:50] shed. Joey seems to have that >> by

[36:56] the drain lever. >> Yeah, she cleaned out all the buck and

[37:00] it's and it's draining now. So, the the heater that we have in there was farther

[37:07] away and set low just enough to keep some of the internal

[37:13] chemicals from freezing. So, I think what happened with all the debris in

[37:18] that drain, which is meant to basically evaporate, it's basically a a square

[37:24] bucket in the ground. I think that froze.

[37:28] And the more it froze, you know, the water couldn't sit in there and and

[37:33] evaporate or dissipate. So once we got it cleaned out and be thawed, it appears

[37:39] to be doing what it's been. >> Clean the whistle now. And I and I I

[37:43] gave a suggestion to rinse off the tractor after mowing so that there

[37:51] squeegee out as much snow and water as possible. So, I think we stopped it.

[37:58] » Okay. I don't know if everybody got a copy of

[38:03] this. Um, we put it on.

[38:12] Yeah, I'll show you. Everybody have one.

[38:19] » No.

[38:23] So Bobby Bobby wrote this letter and basically

[38:29] it's a she

[38:35] go ahead. Why don't you? >> So in preparing for the budget and

[38:40] looking at some planning commission things um we we need to start we're

[38:45] going to have the master plan done this year. So, I asked Heather, "What what do

[38:50] we need to look at? How do we need to be in plan for paying for some of these

[38:54] things?" Um, in talking to her, and I I learned this early on in the process,

[39:00] um, the township really should have always probably had a CIP. Um, and we

[39:07] don't, we did not pass that. >> Yeah. So, um, that is the board's

[39:16] responsibility to do. So she said, you know, in this budgeting process, you

[39:21] need to be looking at your survey results. They're going to play into the

[39:25] master plan what really our capital improvement plan, what we want to do

[39:29] now. Um capital improvement plan will cover the next five to six years. The

[39:35] master plan will cover, you know, into the future further. So, um, I started to

[39:40] look at and kind of tally up some of the things on the survey to see what people

[39:45] want to do for our capital improvement plan. Um, and in doing that, this

[39:51] building was one of the biggest thing that people have been asking about and

[39:56] saying, "Hey, when they get questions, get on, you know, do something about

[40:01] what you've been talking about with the fire department and then also with um

[40:05] the schoolhouse." So the first step and we've been hearing some Romans around

[40:11] town that there may be some changes happening here. So we thought it was

[40:15] kind of a pertinent time to let the Had know that we are interested in possibly

[40:21] having that property and township property too.

[40:24] » So which buildings do they own? Both or >> they Yeah. So it's three separate lots.

[40:29] the way that the lots are broken up. You'd have to look on a map, but so we

[40:32] could purchase just the um woodworking shop,

[40:37] » the logs. Yeah. >> And then I think the rest of the

[40:40] property is two lot is I think how it breaks down. Um and with our

[40:45] » I believe that we have the zero lot line. We did that. You guys did that

[40:49] quite a few years ago. So we could just buy the one and it would work. Um, so

[40:54] that's kind of that's how I wrote the letter was kind of just opening it up to

[40:58] discussion. Um, it would be a discussion with the board because the other thing

[41:02] I've learned in this is the fire hall, fire station, fire things are under

[41:08] board control. Those really aren't a planning commission item. Um, so that's

[41:12] why it's coming from the board, not the planning commission. And I think it we

[41:16] just we just have to get moving on this. If we're putting all this time and

[41:19] effort into this master plan, we've done the survey. we've got to make sure we're

[41:24] we're following all the steps and and starting to put some money in our

[41:28] budgets towards these projects and be a good first step. So, if you scan the

[41:34] letter, basically we're asking them uh that we want to ask whether you might be

[41:38] open to discussing potential options relating to the township possibly

[41:41] acquiring some or all of your property. The township is open to considering a

[41:46] variety of possibilities including the purchase of all three lots or

[41:49] alternatively the lot closer to the township one propert. So, we're just ch

[41:54] saying we're we're interested. Um, >> and we put Brad with Brad's permission.

[42:00] I put Brad in as the contact because she does open real life and you know, I

[42:05] think it's is our resident expert and we hope to. So, if this is something you

[42:10] would be willing to explore or please reach out to Trusty Lyn and his phone

[42:14] number, he can set a meeting time with you or just answer your questions. at

[42:17] least put it out there to say, you know, if you're interested, um, and then then

[42:24] we'll go from there. So, I think since here, I'll change it

[42:29] if you guys are okay with it and I'll sign it and just say clerk um on behalf

[42:36] of the board and then we'll send this out to get it going.

[42:39] » Yeah, that's fine. >> Okay.

[42:42] » So, they're aware. Yeah, that's was here. I'll go

[42:46] ahead and sign it, but I'll sign it and we'll send it out

[42:49] tomorrow just so it'll be if there's some noise going on, some

[42:55] planning going on, we'll say, "Hey, before you do anything,

[43:01] talk to us." So, I thought we should it's um really from the board.

[43:08] » They can't protect. So give everybody okay.

[43:14] Thank you. Yeah, let's have a motion. >> Okay. Second.

[43:22] All in favor? All right. So, we'll send that out

[43:27] tomorrow. All right. The next thing is um we have

[43:32] to have um because we have a um um because we have a

[43:40] electors and we have um meeting >> we have an annual meeting annual meeting

[43:46] of electors we have that we have to have these um township salaries um out for 30

[43:52] days before we have the meeting of the annual uh electors. So basically as you

[43:58] guys can have s saw when you got them. These are just all saying you're keeping

[44:02] the same salaries. So basically they say um whereas your township board deems

[44:08] that no adjustment in the salary of the office of clerk is warranted, the clerk

[44:12] salary is going to stay the same at 26,000. Um be it resolved that there's

[44:16] no adjustment in the office salary at the office of the supervisor warranted.

[44:20] Supervisor is going to stay the 145 or is it 14,000?

[44:25] Did I have that wrong? 45

[44:29] » 45 sounds >> it definitely

[44:32] » because I didn't think it was it wasn't wasn't in even

[44:36] » okay so anyway and then same thing with the trustees it says um be that there's

[44:44] an adjustment the salary of the fresh no adjustment thank you that is warranted

[44:50] that

[44:57] So the treasur remains 26,000 and the um trusties remain 53. So she need a motion

[45:04] separately. We need each one separately. So let's start with the clerk. Uh we

[45:08] need the resolution to be offered by a board member

[45:15] and supported by second and then it has to we have to have a

[45:20] roll call vote. So, um, Denise Zach, he says yes. Bobby,

[45:25] » yes. Brett,

[45:28] » yes. >> And Mike,

[45:29] » yes. >> And then I got took down absent.

[45:38] » Okay. So, uh, the clerk will declare the resolution adopted. I guess supervisor

[45:42] not. Okay.

[45:46] All right. The supervisor salary. I need a board member to offer this resolution.

[45:52] » I'll make that resolution >> and supported by

[46:10] Ven. The clerk says yes. Bobby, >> yes. Brett,

[46:14] » yes. >> And Mike,

[46:15] » yes. So the first offer declare this one adopted

[46:21] uh treasurer salary. I will offer this for any

[46:29] correct. >> Okay, good. And uh

[46:40] Okay, I jumped and I put Laz here. [laughter]

[46:46] Okay. Okay, the clerk votes yes. Bobby,

[46:50] » yes. >> Brett, you

[46:52] » and my gosh. Okay. So, the treasurer salary has adopted four.

[46:58] Okay. >> Motion of trustee body. I need a second

[47:04] and I'm a second since your voice should.

[47:14] » Okay. Roll call vote. Bobby. >> Yes. Brett.

[47:19] Mike. >> Yes.

[47:20] » And yes.

[47:24] Okay. The uh clerk declares that. Okay. So, these will be done um as of um

[47:34] January 12th. That gives us 30 days before our annual meeting of the

[47:37] electors, which is March 9th. Excellent. All righty. Um,

[47:45] anything else that we I guess we just have our call of the public at

[47:52] 7:17 and we will go to our budget workshop

[47:56] after we adjourn. So, um, especially Uni, I'd like to stay just for a little

[48:04] bit. We can get >> You can do their sections first.

[48:07] » Yeah, if you want. >> Okay. So, um I called the public at

[48:11] 7:17. Anybody? Jim?

[48:16] » Um the dock down at the B. What's happening with

[48:22] that? >> Well, it's not.

[48:24] » You're going to lower it by about a foot, right? Is that correct?

[48:28] » That's going to be lowered. Yeah, >> about a foot.

[48:32] » Uh somewhere in there. I Yeah, I'm not sure the exact, but it's going to be

[48:37] lowered. >> Yeah. 12 in I think would be gas, right?

[48:41] So we can >> I just wondering because you know it's

[48:46] like three or four months away and that's not an easy project I don't

[48:50] believe. Who's who's doing it? >> Uh the contractor that built it.

[48:57] » Yep. >> Who is that? Uh that

[49:01] » GL fabrication >> local contractor.

[49:11] » Anyone else? Any other comments?

[49:21] » Board comments. Bobby.

[49:31] Right.

[49:37] » So, we'll take an adjournment for the regular meeting before we reopen the

[49:40] budget workshop at 7:19. Do I have a motion?

[49:47] » And all in favor?

[49:52] » Okay. So we'll

[49:57] » So we we'll reconvene um I don't know like so Mike and Mike

[50:07] » and everyone else is welcome to >> Yeah, you're welcome today. We're just

[50:10] gonna >> drive it'll be a lot of a lot of fun.

[50:31] Do you want me to just write like write something in your notes that you were

[50:34] here and sign it and then >> Yeah.

[50:38] » She should probably agendas.

[50:46] » What's your name?

[51:00] I always have to clarify.

[51:05] » Oh, is there wrong with that building?

[51:16] » Yeah, I was surprised how much you actually have to put

[51:19] public.

[51:48] So since we heard that, we thought we better

[51:51] get in. We want to be concerned. >> But it happened exactly like they

[51:58] expected. >> Good.

[52:02] » All right.

[52:08] Thanks for coming. Okay. [laughter] Thank you for coming. Thanks.

[52:14] Good luck to your school.

[52:18] Thanks for coming. Good luck. >> Thank you.

[52:22] » Thank you.

[52:28] » Yeah.

[52:31] » Okay.

[52:35] 7:21 will reopen for the budget. Now, um,

[52:41] I wanted to ask if L had a chance to talk to Judy and to my

[52:46] » No, no, no. So, you guys had had no input because nothing.

[52:53] » I've got copies for you.

[52:58] » Thank you.

[53:08] Okay. Now, um, unfortunately, there's a lot of blank spots on the

[53:13] budget. I don't think there's much we can do

[53:17] tonight.

[53:20] I spent today going through what we kind of we thought that we would

[53:26] be here and that we'd be able to go through and ask him questions about

[53:29] this. So, let me how should we handle this? go and say what we highlighted.

[53:34] » I think Mike obviously didn't get any chance because yours was still in the

[53:37] box all day. So you this is your first >> So um first off when you need blank

[53:44] spots exactly >> well there's places in the budget that

[53:47] you can put in >> and therefore

[53:50] » were there numbers in the previous >> Oh yeah. Yeah. We know how to find

[53:54] » Well, I'm just I'm asking questions so that I understand what we work with you.

[54:01] So, since we just got this and we haven't had a lot of time to decipher

[54:07] and >> and build through this, we also do have

[54:10] a secondary date on the agenda. >> I think that maybe we quickly go over

[54:17] just page by page, not line by line item, star items of concern

[54:25] and regroup at this. I forget the date. >> Okay. I thought it was in the like you

[54:30] said that was well >> I don't even know if we need to do that

[54:34] cuz these guys haven't >> they haven't they haven't even given any

[54:38] input their number so I think if Denise and I have already done that if you guys

[54:44] take your I mean take your time we get this to Laz and he can then spend a

[54:50] little more time on the budget and get it to us prior to that meeting because

[54:55] us going over it what what are we going to talk about if the person Well, I I

[55:00] guess if you had some um starred areas that we need to consider.

[55:06] » Yeah, >> that would help me to un to really look

[55:09] it up. Okay. >> If we just went and let's say you went

[55:12] to page one and you said line number seven.

[55:15] » I'll show you what I highlighted and Bobby can probably jump into the first

[55:18] page. The numbers for the income are are lost. Part of them are lost. I think he

[55:24] made his best guessment and Bobby will be able to actually calculate the

[55:28] numbers for the income. So do you want to go to those Bobby or just give those?

[55:32] » Yeah. So I think yeah the you want to highlight what we've highlighted. I mean

[55:38] yeah but the homestead swamp plan should is not right and the revenue share is

[55:46] not right. Collection fees are not. Um he's very close on the current real

[55:51] property tax. So you messed with that number

[55:53] » and the veteran royalties were not right.

[55:56] » We thought those were too high. >> Yeah. Because based on that and then you

[56:00] left out there's no misdemean we always have some. So I think 500 you

[56:06] should put it because income is important.

[56:12] Okay. So page two um I'll just what I highlighted and you will be highlighted.

[56:18] Okay. So, the first thing I highlighted was lodging and meals.

[56:23] You know, 2300 at the lodging and meals because um we know Bobby was going to go

[56:28] to MTA, but we don't know the last go. Last year when we put Dragon Storm,

[56:34] » I contacted MTA and got a full push forward. So, it's not a refund. I go for

[56:41] free. She goes, "Laz didn't do it." So, they're giving him a part.

[56:45] » So, you would just be food and Laz would have to pay the part of the

[56:52] classes if he didn't contact them and did get a refund or a push forward. So

[56:57] we were questioning whether he was going to go or not. Um he hasn't as far as we

[57:02] know registration. >> We don't know if he's

[57:05] not even registered. >> You had to register last week and based

[57:09] on showing on that register. Now, the other thing on my my copy is that for

[57:15] for each one of us, there's no mileage numbers. Now, we do get mileage. We just

[57:20] don't get mileage in the township. So, uh I get mileage when I go to town

[57:25] building. You guys will get mileage if you went to AOA if you went to you know

[57:32] uh so there there should be and I want mileage from my my deputy so because he

[57:38] goes up the county building for election things and I want it for my deputy. So

[57:46] there's those mileage items but he he left those out completely. I think he

[57:50] misunderstood the policy that there was no mileage. There's only no living in

[57:56] the township. Um the size >> the other one was that auditor one where

[58:00] he he bumped it up but it's still they charge the charge every year for audit

[58:07] » um on the um page three um board reviews. We were going to have

[58:14] some conversation about whether or not providing you should be removed uh three

[58:19] times and if they have contacted program under the assessor he

[58:26] has $700 there and um that was a one time thing because he hired an assistant

[58:32] because so I don't think we're going to need that again. Um election

[58:38] salaries he put election salaries in but he put no payroll expenses in. Well, I

[58:43] highlighted a dashboard. Um, anything else on your um I had the

[58:48] board of review publishing for 500. There's no way that we've never had

[58:52] anything in that line. You know why? Because I always publish it under the

[58:56] township, >> right?

[59:00] Thank you for

[59:05] » I Yeah, that I don't imagine there would be. I don't think I ended up getting any

[59:09] new equipment over there. So yeah, that circle actually that's a

[59:13] good one. So what what we thought we'd do is we would highlight or circle these

[59:17] and then have L so L can see them and then he can you know enough.

[59:26] Okay. So page four um the only thing we we would judge out

[59:31] both of us street lighting in the middle of the cave. He didn't put anything in.

[59:38] Yeah. That's a good explain that balance.

[59:44] I also have and a question for him. So he upped

[59:50] town hall wages. Are we is he anticipating a raise? Is

[59:55] people are going to work more? What why is that changed? Because we did that

[59:59] question. >> Yeah.

[1:00:02] » To that and he does it a couple places. Parks wages same thing. Yeah. and

[1:00:08] they're not significant to the restricted

[1:00:11] » at the bottom of transfer to other funds. There's $2,000

[1:00:16] and that vote that's the money that we sent for the inspections but he didn't

[1:00:21] and I just wrote a note 22 because he forgot to put it over as revenue 212

[1:00:26] account. So, um do you want me to talk about because

[1:00:30] Bull House and Boy Scout Park are on here?

[1:00:32] » Yeah, talk about that. Um, as I mentioned before, the capital

[1:00:38] improvement CIP and putting money towards some of these things. The one

[1:00:43] other thing that I accomplished this month that big was um working with the

[1:00:50] insurance company continuing on the SW Park playground equipment.

[1:00:56] We they sent us a check for $6,948.50 for the equipment.

[1:01:02] The other part of the claim is $6,530. That doesn't come to us until that

[1:01:13] equipment is removed. Is that the cost that um the company the playground

[1:01:20] company's name? I can never remember. It starts with Price or something like

[1:01:23] that. Penura. >> Yeah. Same thing.

[1:01:27] So that until that's removed, that's their cost removed and the new.

[1:01:33] » Well, we have to contract for that. So, but the big thing is so all that Tokyo

[1:01:39] will pay for is they they didn't buy our big plan, which we knew they worked on,

[1:01:44] but it was a big um but I don't I think we want to do better at that park and we

[1:01:50] want a playground like you have on the east side.

[1:01:56] But the caveat is that would have to go into the budget and we would have to

[1:02:01] make some decisions with that because we only have until June. If I tell her in

[1:02:06] June we're going to get new playground equipment in August, then they'll fold

[1:02:09] this 6,500 over to pay us. But if we don't get new equipment in there, we can

[1:02:15] get whatever we want, pay, you know, we pay 100,000 if we wanted. You only get

[1:02:20] 6,000 towards it or 7,000. Um, but in order to get recoup the removal and

[1:02:26] replacement cost that the insurance would cover, it has to happen soon to

[1:02:30] whatever. >> Are we guaranteed $6,000 for removal?

[1:02:35] » Well, it breaks down. So, that's what I said. If we just got it removed and we

[1:02:38] didn't put in playground equipment in, he would get whatever.

[1:02:42] We have to give him the bill. But he's done. Um, so I don't think we

[1:02:49] rush a project of that magnitude in order to get $6,000,

[1:02:54] but with that being said, Schoolhouse Park is at the top of I

[1:03:00] think our capital improvement plan list. So there's got to be I mean $3,000 in

[1:03:06] Boy Scout Park. I don't know what we would plan to do over there. Capital

[1:03:09] outlay for 3,000 and $3,000 definitely not going to do anything to the house.

[1:03:15] So, I don't know where in this budget we want to find money to start to go

[1:03:19] towards these projects, but if we're committed to moving forward and some

[1:03:23] progress on some of these things, it's got to start there.

[1:03:27] » At the very least, we need to remove >> the

[1:03:31] » the equipment that's no longer >> Yeah. Whatever we want. I looking for

[1:03:37] the right word. >> Yeah. And

[1:03:40] the front of the building >> needs to be secured.

[1:03:44] » That mean that part is in horrible shape. It if you read the survey and

[1:03:50] comments, people are like, "Lan it up. Lean this place up." This will be you.

[1:03:57] Like those are the two big things. So I mean I think I'll I'll put that down for

[1:04:01] you guys if you agree. Um, I mean that that's going to be and

[1:04:07] » and it's going to take, you know, we can the master plan is going to help us get

[1:04:12] grants. It's going to help us get funding, but there's got to be money in

[1:04:16] this account to match it. Nobody just gives you all money.

[1:04:19] » Um, and even with bond, you know, we were borrow the money. There's someone

[1:04:24] that wants >> the grant works like most grants. You

[1:04:29] don't you don't get you don't get the money until

[1:04:33] » the project is done. >> So you front the money,

[1:04:36] » right? >> And we do have some money in savings,

[1:04:38] but we have to make the decision. >> Yeah.

[1:04:41] » The whole project to draw this out. How much is it just to remove the unsafe

[1:04:46] which is like everything but the swing side

[1:04:49] » inflation removal of the this place that $24

[1:04:55] but >> I think I think and they'll pay us

[1:04:58] whatever we >> right and we don't have to have

[1:05:01] insurance do that like we can get a local contractor or

[1:05:07] um >> we have to go

[1:05:10] » so we have to spend more than the 60 900 to get it?

[1:05:17] » No, we we got the $6,900 for the equipment that will be in our account to

[1:05:23] use for new equipment whenever we decide to purchase it. If it's this year, next

[1:05:27] year, but we there was holding the installation and removal target until

[1:05:34] that happens. That's on policy for them. This had a lot more wording than any

[1:05:38] other thing. So they again I don't think we expediate a project or we put

[1:05:44] something in place that's not the right thing or in the right place for $6,000.

[1:05:49] Um but I think we should try to fire our insurance

[1:05:58] out. >> Yeah. And if you went, honest to

[1:06:03] goodness, if you went with the bike guy like I did, you would never let your

[1:06:08] child be here any like that. And >> let that Mary go around. Come on.

[1:06:14] » He was like, then he tells you what could happen like how their flies off or

[1:06:18] their arm. I was like, "Oh my goodness." So I we have to put that there. We've

[1:06:22] also had a couple >> that have had issues. So it's got to go.

[1:06:28] Um, we had some kids, you know, they haven't sued us that they freel.

[1:06:32] » Yeah. So, it's got to go. But I think that I highlighted that area because

[1:06:38] » their job needs some more money in there.

[1:06:39] » Is there anything they said? Some of the ones back there were savable.

[1:06:43] » Um, what was it? >> Well, we went to Well, the

[1:06:48] But they're not. >> You could we could

[1:06:52] the go the merrygoround the spring. Oh,

[1:06:57] » those those are dangerous. But those were damaged in the storm.

[1:07:01] » Um, so what's the other thing? The mar the

[1:07:06] that slimy thing. >> Yeah, death damage. And that should go.

[1:07:11] So those three things were the >> the slide and the death trap.

[1:07:16] » Can we put the slide down? [laughter]

[1:07:26] » Yeah. again the wages are all like just bought and

[1:07:29] » I mean there's some I mean there's there's some

[1:07:36] probably be made into a park >> right

[1:07:39] » because if you look parks wages from 2023 to 205

[1:07:47] have

[1:07:51] so I think maintenance is an area I think you could probably all

[1:07:57] And that's actually

[1:08:03] some of our landcaping stuff

[1:08:08] really. >> Yeah, there's Yeah, there's definitely

[1:08:14] not 600. and a lot of so I really got to kind of tighten up

[1:08:22] otherwise we're not going to have anyone do that

[1:08:28] utility. Okay. Then the next page on page uh five

[1:08:33] you can see he's got 35,000 the library fund but it does not match what he's put

[1:08:38] into the library but that's enough. So obviously that has to be and it's not

[1:08:44] enough anyway. We'll look at that but that has to be

[1:08:48] adjusted. So that was that you can see that was

[1:08:54] balanced but it's not balance because he does well. All right. But then if we go

[1:09:00] to the fires like you can see um at the bottom

[1:09:06] that the fire and this is what kills me. The fire department goes in the red by

[1:09:11] $5,000. So you know there's no way the fire fun.

[1:09:15] Um so obviously you know the number the numbers just aren't right. So um I guess

[1:09:21] you have to say you might um and you can you don't have to do this now. You can

[1:09:26] give it to Laz later, but go through these categories and say, you know, what

[1:09:32] do you think?

[1:09:36] » Well, and the other thing too, I think brought it up earlier, the fire

[1:09:40] department's only at 30% right now, and Mike and I talked this morning,

[1:09:44] » and he's never really had a hand in this budget. So, if he's only at 30% of his

[1:09:52] budget, these numbers haven't been right for

[1:09:54] » No, they haven't been. Um, and as a tax looking at it toward taxpayer standpoint

[1:09:59] with a paying a player millage and one of the things people are very sensitive

[1:10:04] about. So if I'm if Mike's only spending 30% of his budget, why am I paying?

[1:10:10] » Yeah. >> And so we've got this is a budget that I

[1:10:13] think Mike needs to get his hands on and make it very realistic.

[1:10:19] » Well, you see what we've done, Mike, done with the truck replacement with

[1:10:23] both departments. We've got a bunch of money. 119,000 and 98,000 that we just

[1:10:28] threw in there because we had all that money left over.

[1:10:34] » We don't

[1:10:40] look he could have taken 5,000 out of the truck and he wasn't bail but

[1:10:45] obviously obviously he was not. >> So I look forward to Mike on that for a

[1:10:51] lot of reasons. So, Mike, you have that page and we can just say what he's going

[1:10:55] to need. Uh, and you can see the next fund for the liquor fund on page seven.

[1:10:59] He he he put $2,000 out of the 101 to take it, but he put it over as transfer

[1:11:06] from other funds. So, we're $1,900 in the red for that. So, that's just

[1:11:11] another um, you know, over on his part. So, I highlighted that. Uh, the library

[1:11:17] is on duty. You can see that he only had transferred 2500,000 from the general

[1:11:24] fund where he put in the 101 35,000 which obviously you're in the red

[1:11:30] $20,000. So >> that can't be

[1:11:34] gone and I don't

[1:11:40] he Yeah, you need you need to go through

[1:11:43] and look at it. He put cut your books down to 3,000. Well, that's the one

[1:11:47] thing that we got.

[1:11:51] » No, that's what we're about. >> I I think you can play with obviously

[1:11:54] the wages because you've always got 20,000 so far and you got three more

[1:11:58] months to go. So, that can be adjusted. You guys have whittleled your wages

[1:12:03] down, cut your hours a little bit. >> Sure.

[1:12:05] » But anyway, you play with that and see what you what you think you need.

[1:12:09] » Okay. >> And then get that back and then that's

[1:12:13] okay. Um, so I don't think there's much else

[1:12:17] we can do until we get these u

[1:12:22] » and is it it's 6:30 the 26? >> Yes, the regular buying. Yeah,

[1:12:29] » we'll be that's when they set up the schedule.

[1:12:32] » Yeah. And and I will be um I'm going to Israel and Jordan on uh Saturday

[1:12:39] morning. So um I won't be here but um Bobby can represent the uh special

[1:12:47] department together. But in fact, if we did get anything else

[1:12:51] as you guys were as you guys were looking through it

[1:12:57] » and Bobby and I just went through it for about an hour this morning, but then we

[1:13:01] got from the auditor that a

[1:13:07] scared >> No, I mean I I kind of I see the same

[1:13:12] stuff here. >> Yeah.

[1:13:15] Anytime he changes wages, he needs to change payroll expenses by multiplying

[1:13:21] by 10% plus 18%. I don't think he does that every time. I mean, obviously it

[1:13:25] doesn't feel good. I think mine's not, you know,

[1:13:29] very >> right and it needs to be worked on. If I

[1:13:34] think as a board, we have to decide if you not well to this level. This is the

[1:13:41] most important document we can use and it allows us to operate. Yeah. And it's

[1:13:47] it's got to be done right. So spending a few hours on the very last day before

[1:13:52] the meeting. Yeah. I mean he didn't start

[1:13:55] till Thursday. So I mean obviously he's not feeling enough. So but still this is

[1:14:02] that

[1:14:05] so this is my copy and um

[1:14:19] » yeah I kept another blank for myself and Um

[1:14:31] » anything else? I mean I I don't want to normally once we had the budget nor go

[1:14:38] through this. >> So if I

[1:14:41] fixing the fire hall budget and the

[1:14:46] funds for the voice for the park up here are two of our biggest

[1:14:52] adjustments.

[1:14:56] Yeah. Yeah. In doing that, >> well, other things that need to equal

[1:15:01] out, but those are the >> But you guys, you guys remember that

[1:15:04] that we can't take any money, for instance, any money that's in the 206 is

[1:15:09] » 206 >> is the 206. We can't touch that. We

[1:15:13] can't move that around. Otherwise, we can move money around from, you know,

[1:15:17] because we're funding the library except that they have a few. But we can move

[1:15:21] east side funds buns. >> We can move other we can't touch east

[1:15:25] side.

[1:15:30] » We can move anything within the 101 and Bobby and I are going to move the um

[1:15:37] library 101 and we're going to move the liquid.

[1:15:42] Yeah. So everything's all in one again

[1:15:47] to another. Um, but we had to keep the 206

[1:15:53] sacred because nobody knows

[1:16:01] any.

[1:16:04] » Yeah. So, it does it does need some work and I don't know what.

[1:16:16] So, so also remember and we've talked about this other time that for our

[1:16:21] daytoday spending we want to we have to spend a lot of revenue.

[1:16:26] » Yeah. Just like like just like in your personal budget you know what you take

[1:16:31] home from work is what you spend with your daily

[1:16:34] » money. But if we have some some special project that we want to do, we do have

[1:16:40] our fund balances, our savings account, but we can't take money out of our

[1:16:43] savings accounts to pay our street lights or Right.

[1:16:48] » But we could if we wanted to buy some playground.

[1:16:53] » Exactly. We could say, okay, >> we could take we could take $30,000 and

[1:16:58] say, "We're going to buy a new slide and a new

[1:17:01] » We could we could say, this is what we've been saving for all these years.

[1:17:05] update our part >> as long we have to read how they

[1:17:08] restricted that because they did restrict those that schoolhouse part are

[1:17:13] restricted the restricted fund balance >> right

[1:17:16] » we have to read it just for the schoolhouse building

[1:17:21] to take that but >> that was the board the way they named

[1:17:25] those CDs like we also have some forces >> and they've in that way because I did

[1:17:30] that research it's kind of different and >> um and the other thing is we can't go

[1:17:35] too far in terms we don't just have to look at what that ratio

[1:17:39] » and we yeah we decide it's in our it's in our policies

[1:17:44] that we won't let our fun%

[1:17:49] » unless we put

[1:18:04] something something special. >> You know, at the very least, if we

[1:18:08] remove the equipment and maybe put in new style wood chips, we get a safe

[1:18:14] foundation, >> a grant, if we get a grant, it's really

[1:18:20] not going to go until the following year. And we could target

[1:18:24] » or maybe we could do something like like a disc golf course that wasn't in that.

[1:18:30] Yeah. that didn't cost, you know, >> wasn't

[1:18:34] » $100,000. I think you can move this golf course

[1:18:37] where they need 20 or 30,000 something. I mean, we could pick something that

[1:18:41] wasn't or one big piece of equipment, you know, cuz I think the biggest thing

[1:18:47] up there as we were looking at it is when we decide to do the building,

[1:18:54] where does the building go? Where where are the bathrooms? So, where does the

[1:18:58] playground fit? And we kind of Well, we can, but what if we need to

[1:19:04] put equipment? So, I don't want to

[1:19:10] most of the playground equipment needs cement

[1:19:14] foundations, [clears throat] even though you don't

[1:19:17] think it does. When we did it on the east side, there was more involved than

[1:19:22] just digging a hole, putting a post in. Well,

[1:19:26] seems like a lot of people forget park and there's a lot around the

[1:19:30] schoolhouse. There's stuff on the other side of the fence,

[1:19:34] » right? Yeah, those fences are kind of weird. I mean on the other side on um

[1:19:39] here's a picture road

[1:19:43] » wood >> wood

[1:19:47] know my road >> but I mean you have the park area over

[1:19:52] there >> right

[1:19:55] » I I feel like that's like a forgotten >> right

[1:19:59] » that's a forgotten part >> it kind of like people around there it's

[1:20:04] like their old little park >> like pistol for future one that like

[1:20:07] they have all the cards they have it all the way through the

[1:20:10] » I mean it's actually quite a decent pair of land

[1:20:15] that's another thing to remember Brett when you talk to the head if they want

[1:20:19] to train trade a piece of that lot for maybe a lot of there you have that one

[1:20:27] there maybe they want to get building something they can still

[1:20:32] I mean I think they got a good English.

[1:20:41] » Yeah.

[1:20:45] » Main Street as opposed to behind Walmart.

[1:20:54] Make a motion to adjourn this. >> The board.

[1:21:01] All right. 26.

[1:21:17] » One of them.

[1:21:22] » He was living here. remember living in the

[1:21:24] » backy.

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