[0:01] On behalf of the House, I need a grant, who is also on the committee, and she is the Township treasurer.

[0:08] John Fumer is not on the committee, but he is our Township clerk. Dan Winger is our Township trustee.

[0:15] And this is Jim Taylor. He is on the committee. Also on the committee, our Sean Murphy.

[0:23] We sat here tonight, Rick Shains, we sat here tonight,

[0:29] and we have, so there's five of us

[0:32] on the committee, and then also we have, he's not on the committee, but he's a consultant,

[0:39] it's Jim Cole, from the Jackson County Department of Transportation.

[0:42] And he's been very helpful.

[0:44] He's been at all of our committee meeting.

[0:46] He has all the answers.

[0:47] Unfortunately, he could not be here tonight.

[0:49] So we're going to try to answer all of your questions.

[0:53] One thing I want to point out is that

[0:55] I'm not only in township with websites,

[0:57] which is not only in township that you ask.

[1:00] If you go to the website and you scroll down,

[1:02] there is a road project presentation

[1:04] that was put together,

[1:05] I believe, by connecting county department

[1:07] and transportation.

[1:08] It's very, very informative.

[1:10] It's not specific for this time,

[1:12] but it explains all about the roads,

[1:16] where the money comes from,

[1:17] or roads, options for townships, how it's divided for the different roads.

[1:30] For this, we are talking about local roads.

[1:36] There are also primary roads, which would not be touched by this village if we could

[1:41] to do the knowledge and then there's E state roads.

[1:47] So this would only include local roads.

[1:53] And you have a map that I cast out that has three roads on that are local roads.

[2:02] The orange rows are local rows that are proposed to do with this knowledge.

[2:13] And the yellow rows are, often, you might be able to do it in two penny time

[2:18] funding.

[2:19] So, we can get into that a little bit more, can have any more questions on that.

[2:24] Let's see.

[2:31] So I understand this correctly.

[2:34] This is green, yes, orange, also proposed to do with it, and yellow, posse, green, rose.

[2:40] Chicago is banaro.

[2:42] Right.

[2:42] The yellows are in local roads.

[2:44] They will not be there, not proposed to be done with this village.

[2:48] This village is proposed to be a six year village.

[2:52] And one and a half mills.

[2:55] I think we have in front of you the road village.

[3:01] The resolution is when it has the road knowledge proposal on it.

[3:06] That's what it's been about.

[3:07] It's what it would say on the ballot.

[3:09] So I'm just going to read that one quite the road knowledge.

[3:12] But the committee has proposed to put out the November ballot.

[3:18] And we would like to, you know, hear your questions and your input before we make the decision to put the assignment on the November ballot.

[3:24] Fogret has to be done by August 13th, it has to be submitted in order to be on a number of other values.

[3:31] And the reason we've done this is because we've had so many complaints about the local roads,

[3:36] well, I know you all drive on them.

[3:39] With this map, unfortunately, we can't do all the roads with that.

[3:43] We only want to have mills for six years, but it does touch a lot.

[3:49] most of the main local roads that we all drive on.

[3:55] So I'm going to read the road, Millage Proposal.

[3:57] So the township of Napoleon, the off-risal lady,

[4:00] 1.5 mills that's about $50 per $1,000 of taxable

[4:05] value for six years for the purpose of providing funds

[4:08] for the real rehabilitation of abortion of local streets

[4:11] and roadways.

[4:13] Improvements would include rehabilitation of gravel, local roads,

[4:17] and rehabilitation of low-paved local roads within the Holy Township in the taxpayers of

[4:22] 2024 to 2020.

[4:25] Funds will be collected in disperse for improvements upon roads with the Holy Township as

[4:30] the Township Board determines appropriate.

[4:33] This village would result in a collection of estimated 424,991,000 revenue in the first year

[4:42] in the middle of the West.

[4:44] So, when it says, you know, the township has a township board

[4:48] in terms of the program.

[4:50] This is the suggestion from the committee,

[4:53] how we would start at the university.

[4:56] After that six years, that millage could be renewed

[5:03] at the same 1.5 mills or slightly less.

[5:08] If it is renewed, we get another six years at 1.5 mills,

[5:13] And then we would move into more of the subdivisions and the worst roles in the subdivisions.

[5:24] The county has a system of determining which roles are in need of repair and in placement.

[5:33] And it's actually most of our rare roles are really bad and really are in need.

[5:39] So, some of the options that we're available are available are special millage, which is special

[5:49] assessment district, which is, for instance, some set branches states did a special assessment

[5:57] district where they have a millage just for their neighborhood and they all get those

[6:07] to their text though.

[6:09] And for the last four.

[6:10] And fact, signed it, too.

[6:12] And the similar with others, Lake Alpah, I had for the link,

[6:16] especially assessment for the link for everybody.

[6:20] We found the link was in for the link for the week control.

[6:23] So those are special sessions to stir our options.

[6:25] We've had a few people come to us about doing that.

[6:29] We don't do that ourselves.

[6:32] We have the community that neighborhood comes to us with their plan and put

[6:36] that together. Another option is the touch of, I'm just doing it, and I'm going to put it

[6:44] on your text, which of course we would never do. So another option is I want to, I'll tell

[6:51] you a little bit about what some of the other time ships have done and why we didn't go

[7:00] that problem. Some of township has 2.83 mills collecting 22.54 million over 16 years. That's

[7:11] 2.5, 2.83 mills for 16 years on the Texas. And that covered every road in some

[7:18] township, every road in some of it has been replaced or rehabilitated depending on what the

[7:31] It's a complete rehabilitation.

[7:37] Some of it, first from our screenshot, passed a 15-year 3.9-mails. So that, in the recent week, we did go with the longer-term

[7:50] higher-milages, just basically the costs. Bigger six years, we can get a lot done, of the main little

[7:59] It's not such a big cost to the taxpayers.

[8:06] So the roads are based on the payser scale that they have,

[8:10] 10 being a really good road, like a new road,

[8:14] and one is a failed road.

[8:15] And most of our roads are on one of two or one to three.

[8:22] So they're all in pretty bad shape.

[8:24] And you think that you are going to take care of them?

[8:29] And you've got to talk to them, they funding,

[8:33] meaning how the state decides,

[8:39] you can get, I mean, which roads, the state covers the primary and the primary.

[8:43] Yeah, I think your map kind of explains that with the color coding.

[8:48] We have 51.6 miles of roads in the Collin Township that are

[8:52] to be local ones, and many people say, well, wait, isn't the county supposed to be taking

[9:00] care of those?

[9:01] Why we have to spend any money.

[9:03] So I actually put a copy of the, say, a lot down here that references that, and shaded

[9:09] as yellow as a key language, it says specifically a county shall keep in reasonable repair

[9:16] so that they are reasonably safe and convenient for public travel, all county roads, breaches

[9:22] in culverts that are within the county's jurisdiction.

[9:25] And many, many people have gone out with this.

[9:27] It's a, which he's, they're supposed to be doing this.

[9:29] The reality is, they don't have enough money to do it.

[9:32] The state doesn't give them enough money to do it.

[9:34] So despite the law, they just can't do all the wrong things.

[9:40] So townships like ours, if we really want more work to do it,

[9:44] we don't have one choice for the step forward

[9:46] in the name of some sort of contribution.

[9:48] And Julie went through a couple of townships that

[9:51] have past villages and I have information on some others. Blackwood Township also passed

[9:58] a village for 17 years to do all their homerones. Their millilies was 2.5 pounds. Two other

[10:05] townships proposed millages and they failed. I grassly proposed a 21 year 4.12 millilies

[10:14] to do all local roads, and it fails.

[10:18] Leonie proposed the 17-year village of 3.3 to do all local roads.

[10:26] And that also failed.

[10:27] So we have a number of different reference points

[10:29] to try and try and get out of the building.

[10:34] The township's like someone in black room,

[10:37] they're much more perhaps, honestly, populated.

[10:42] So people can say, well, this is

[10:44] probably worth it because my role is going to be a lot longer with all the others so they didn't

[10:50] really have much trouble passing those malicious even though they are somewhere high.

[10:56] It's forever a little surprised that they were able to do it.

[11:00] They have 49 hours of local summer comparable to ours, but I've heard the explained that they have a different

[11:08] of the composition, and then we do, they have all those common students, they can vote

[11:13] yes, on a millies because the faculty cost the money, then they have a lot of retirees

[11:17] and the game homes that can also vote yes on a millies because they no longer have a home

[11:23] with pay taxes on.

[11:24] That may very well have to have one of the influencing factors in the lives of the past and

[11:30] in order to get out into a toxic lake paradise that's much more dispersed, a lot of roads

[11:35] of not very many people on it, end up having to do a pretty high

[11:40] notice of this graph, like in the opening, try to do it with your really

[11:43] kind of in all the roads, I don't know less,

[11:47] constantly in the operation. So we looked at all of that,

[11:52] but well, if we put a million dollars out there to do all our roads,

[11:55] we've probably had the same faith as grass like in the opening case.

[11:58] It's really important to be able to do this with fast,

[12:01] the village's large enough to do that.

[12:04] But by the same talk, we don't want to just do nothing because the roads are getting worse and worse.

[12:10] So a road committee kind of with some little bit of guidance from the board is what we'd like to see came back to something that didn't run along, didn't cost as much.

[12:22] But gives us an opportunity to tackle some of the most troubled roads in the most heavily traveled roads.

[12:29] So, as you always try to do as a board, when we're spending money, we would try to

[12:35] scan it and wait the benefit of the most people, and if you look at Tools Man, you

[12:39] can see the roads that many of the recommended people this time, are those ones that

[12:44] tend to be most heavily traveling by the largest number of people in the country?

[12:49] So that's kind of the situation, okay, I'm not sure.

[12:53] Also on the map, you can have all the roads around the schools being done because they're a bad shape and a lot of people do use those roads.

[13:04] And I also wanted to point out that the money, the knowledge raised, is matched 30% by the county.

[13:15] So, whatever we raise approximately 30% that's not a guarantee, the county contributes, and the county is the one that does the work, and it would be our little backlog, so even if we do, we weren't a pass, this is not going to be in this attainment, but it would be within the six years.

[13:35] Yeah, the county will deal 30% match on roads to the deal of 50% match on bridges and

[13:41] on roads.

[13:43] And we're dealing with a collaboration right now, all the way from this, and that's

[13:46] some of you probably already have been confused by it.

[13:50] Okay, I think you had a question?

[13:52] Yeah, I think Steve's going to do the rest of that in the front of the school, is it the

[13:55] school or is it the township that's closing shut down, where's their school in front

[13:59] of the school?

[14:00] But for the kids, walking across EDD and high school and in the neighborhood.

[14:07] You've been working on that for years.

[14:10] The school is in the favor of a touch of no one has assisted them in exploring it.

[14:16] If you look back into the past, there have been some serious accidents there.

[14:22] Some close calls.

[14:53] people coming north from the Northland to the river down through that

[14:54] some of the risks associated with that role and to many of us it seems like.

[15:00] The only way to truly make it safe would be the clothes off the middle of the campus. And our police and fire people go there every morning to try and manage the traffic, because for some reason, people just are careful. They're going to hurry to get kids to drop off and get to work and they just go a little bit too fast through the middle of the terrace. So, so our police and fire, probably every morning is lost or not, and so on and so on and so on and keep the kids safe. But that's really a bandage.

[15:30] and we looked at the long term solution trying to close.

[15:35] There wouldn't need to be a whole different traffic pattern established around it,

[15:41] but we think that's probably the only truly safe solution.

[15:47] But there's no decision that may be to do it.

[15:50] Yeah, there's no funding that's been difficult.

[15:53] So let's go one of those questions.

[15:56] You know, we're still wrestling with a lot of people coming from the answer, I'm sure.

[16:01] Don't go, sir.

[16:02] Just a couple of words.

[16:04] Is that okay if when you ask a question, could you just tell John what your name,

[16:11] and where you live, or add it?

[16:12] The name is sufficient.

[16:14] Name's good.

[16:15] Yeah.

[16:15] That would go to the 44.95 KMR.

[16:18] So that way we can get a record of what was this going to say?

[16:21] White House, yeah.

[16:24] So I'll 45 years old, that is an oil and oil life, but I got to remember if you go up there.

[16:30] So just to help me, like, reconcile the amortization of the costs, how will their current roads that we're proposing to do?

[16:38] So if I just think in my adolescence, it's going to cost me $800 for the next six years, but it's going to last 20 years.

[16:45] That's the cost I can quickly reconcile and say, that's paying for my, that's great value.

[16:49] So, how long are some winter roads been used to pre-dominate as a slave or wednesday ever those roads?

[16:58] I think they're around 40.

[17:02] Some of them are, because do you remember what Jim said?

[17:07] Jim Cole would have a better answer to that.

[17:08] So, they're 30-foot years old.

[17:11] They're 30-foot years old.

[17:12] Okay.

[17:13] But they're not, they're designed to last.

[17:16] Well, they're not votes involved in today's standard ruby, this technology's gotten so much better.

[17:21] And they've done that probably for 10 years.

[17:23] Well, they're not built the last forever because it's impossible to defend.

[17:26] Oh, exactly.

[17:27] But today, we're just going to be standards in technology.

[17:31] We have, I guess we go broke that in a day, and we did 40 years ago.

[17:35] You know, in theory.

[17:36] I think in theory.

[17:38] There's a lot more options different ways to do the road.

[17:42] And they, they're really, you know, obviously there's a profession to evaluate the road.

[17:46] and you're all the best to make do it.

[17:49] And also, one thing Jim pointed out

[17:51] in full of the Jackson County Department of Transportation,

[17:55] for instance, I think he's actually

[17:57] and Lake Road is an example that it's not as bad

[18:00] as some of the other roads,

[18:02] but it lasts expensive to fix a road

[18:04] that's going to be bad very soon,

[18:06] you know, soon, then to wait until it totally deteriorate.

[18:10] So there are two roads that aren't maybe as bad

[18:13] as some other roads in the townships,

[18:15] They're all bad, and it's a little bit less of sense of depending on what, you know, what.

[18:22] Well, I see you say if we guys put a presentation together on the one-time ship.

[18:28] So what is that US?

[18:31] That US.

[18:32] What is the first set of roles proposed that you guys would like to do?

[18:36] On this on the map.

[18:38] So let me just kind of probably go a little bit.

[18:40] They're in the rules that are most used by

[18:46] or by residents, top-ships, top-ships.

[18:50] Katie Road, African Lake Road, Blue Lake Road,

[18:55] Stony Lake Road.

[18:57] And unfortunately, South Stony Lake Road is not on list,

[19:00] because it is not a local road.

[19:02] It is a primary road, so we cannot do that road.

[19:05] And I know that road is bad, but North Stony Lake Road

[19:09] It is a local road in it that is one that we plan on following.

[19:14] Let's see, Ben Road and, basically, Kate Road, her half-banded road, her half-shadow road and all the roads around the school.

[19:29] That's proposed.

[19:31] And we've driven back down a lot of them.

[19:33] And that's kind of, for all of them.

[19:36] between all of us, and the root kind of roads you're not going to speak right now, right?

[19:43] In green, those are the orange roads are green roads that are covered with orange.

[19:48] But in green, the other green roads are not going to be, are not in the plan to do in the six years.

[19:57] If the bond, if the millages renewed after the six years, then we've been to some of the other green roads.

[20:06] But I think we're able to throw down a bunch of those points right, and at one

[20:11] three in the morning, big bang in front of my house, and I thought, I'm going to

[20:14] put my mailbox down and think, I have no idea what they did, but we backed up, so

[20:19] I don't know what they did, but what my mailbox, I think, I don't think that's the

[20:22] stuff.

[20:23] Did we get any idea?

[20:24] Oh, Patricia's Roca,

[20:28] and this does include gravel roads, not paving, but

[20:34] I'm not going to go back to that point five years ago and it's been enough.

[20:38] This is an hard name.

[20:39] I didn't get the smell of growth.

[20:40] It's going to be wrong.

[20:41] It's like the hit that occurred there.

[20:43] And the floor.

[20:45] They're kind of off.

[20:45] I don't want to get on the side of the bed.

[20:48] They don't want to get on the side of the bed.

[20:49] They don't want to get on the side of the bed.

[20:50] So they get that dirt.

[20:52] And if they've been having a good time, I don't know how much it is.

[20:59] Okay.

[20:59] In the back, weren't you at?

[21:03] You'll be okay next.

[21:07] What's the day we get?

[21:09] Here I'll pull in.

[21:10] Oh, and.

[21:11] Thank you.

[21:13] There's a reason to wear a horse and give me attention.

[21:18] I'm going to say that.

[21:19] I think that's a county.

[21:22] I think so.

[21:23] I think so.

[21:23] You're right.

[21:25] You're right.

[21:26] I think so.

[21:28] That's why I don't know.

[21:29] Still like that.

[21:30] County.

[21:31] I believe it's a county up primary road.

[21:33] I think it is on her schedule.

[21:35] But it is, yeah, it really is on the schedule.

[21:39] On the schedule.

[21:40] That is valuable.

[21:42] It's really good.

[21:43] If you find it, it's worth some money.

[21:45] I think so.

[21:47] That's the problem of why I'm in the middle of it.

[21:49] So I can't go either way without a run.

[21:54] You think it's on a subway schedule?

[21:56] Yes.

[21:57] All right.

[21:57] Thank you.

[21:58] You and that, yeah, it's a pleasure.

[22:00] And your name is Mr. Tuss, $1.50 for $1,000.

[22:06] Can we get your name?

[22:08] I'm sorry, David Lens.

[22:09] David Lens?

[22:10] Lens?

[22:11] Lens, L-E-L-T-C.

[22:15] I'm sorry.

[22:17] But it says, $1.50 for $1,000.

[22:21] Does that mean if my house is valued at $4,000,

[22:24] we're going to increase my tax of $600.

[22:26] dollars. I have an example.

[22:30] Chair of a House with a market value of $300,000 is $225 for the year per year.

[22:39] A House with a market value of $200,000 would be an annual cost of about $150 a year.

[22:47] So it's more accessible than I am, than it's calculated against not the market value here.

[22:53] Okay, good.

[22:58] Good.

[22:59] This is Harry.

[22:59] Yeah, Harry.

[23:01] Harry.

[23:02] Okay, Harry.

[23:03] We are.

[23:04] Okay, spell last name, please.

[23:07] GLAB.

[23:08] Thank you.

[23:10] There's a sort of two-part question.

[23:12] It appears that these roads that are chosen to be done first, is based upon traffic count and

[23:20] of the condition of the road.

[23:22] Again, so a good couple with that is in looking at this, it looks like an arrow is sort

[23:28] of like a suit to be done, row, however, knowing that road is actually in pretty good shape

[23:34] in relation to some of the others, like a record, which we have to drive for the time.

[23:40] Everybody is interested in the road side of this road in the house.

[23:43] But I think that point out the rest of it is a primary road, so it would definitely

[23:46] and not to be.

[23:47] Also, retro to O would not be to be.

[23:50] Right.

[23:50] So I think I'll point in primary roads with these decisions

[23:53] were made years and years ago as sublux roads

[23:56] or primary roads for me.

[23:58] I don't think I think well, why is O point a primary road?

[24:02] Our rockbird.

[24:03] But key road is a local road.

[24:05] But that's, if you want to.

[24:07] In case you're working on.

[24:09] OK, all right.

[24:10] So there for a breakfast out.

[24:11] OK, I'll just point it because man, there's a, you know,

[24:13] it's not that bad.

[24:14] They're just not too bad.

[24:15] in relation to some colors, but the media is just that.

[24:18] Those are delicate.

[24:20] Yeah, okay.

[24:23] Good time to back.

[24:25] What is five hundred and I love my history?

[24:28] This question, you have to do something to me.

[24:30] Wait, everyone.

[24:31] When I first started doing the oil and oil,

[24:32] I was kind of a really creative oil and all that stuff.

[24:35] Go to markets and it will look at 50,000 out of your fine

[24:37] for road media and stuff.

[24:39] Because that's still ongoing.

[24:41] If you're this, where's that money going?

[24:45] You guys, you're going to have to dig into that.

[24:46] When I found the real business, they said the guy would be here and you would have the interview for that.

[24:50] Is the money going, you guys, you go into the state.

[24:54] If there was a bond, of course, there was a money way back, there was a problem,

[24:57] I could kind of let them because it didn't happen here with the concept.

[25:01] So that I didn't really buy a money, and we still have that thing.

[25:04] I do recall that at least ten years.

[25:06] I do recall that the company did contributed to some money when the oil alls were first built

[25:11] and the roads were starting to deteriorate.

[25:13] We haven't looked in the deadline, that's probably a good thing for us to check on and see.

[25:17] Yes, I'm on this one. Good question.

[25:20] Yeah, we'll follow up on that.

[25:21] Bob, he's spelled your last name, please.

[25:23] I think HMNKRD.

[25:25] That's what I had.

[25:26] I'm just going to check.

[25:28] You're saying good?

[25:29] I thought that that's what I had.

[25:31] Thank you.

[25:32] You're welcome.

[25:35] Don't come in again.

[25:38] So if I understand this correctly, when you first said to county,

[25:43] there's not enough money, it's back up.

[25:46] So in this road, rework committee that you guys put together,

[25:50] let's say we just get out of our pitchforks

[25:52] and our fire mirror and I know the roads,

[25:54] in your best estimation, how long you think we take the county,

[25:58] how much pressure we have to put on,

[25:59] we're gonna take litigation or something like that

[26:01] to force their antifuncility troops.

[26:03] Okay, well done.

[26:04] It feels as if it never did to it.

[26:06] Okay, that's that's it.

[26:08] And every time you look at the same situation,

[26:11] to be responsible to suit and get for those done now.

[26:20] Sue, hey, out.

[26:22] And so first of all, I just want to make a statement.

[26:25] And I think it's terrible that we are in a time where we say,

[26:32] we don't know if people will come.

[26:34] I mean, the county should be responsible for this process.

[26:38] Then I think they should be responsible for that.

[26:41] But I'm just saying, we just put it off too much then.

[26:44] So because I want to do something, so they don't do that.

[26:50] Secondly, so has the ownership ever have like a 10 year business plan on roads, and we're

[26:55] going to take money out of the budget to put a site for roads, so we have like to use the

[27:00] roads so we're going to be more in half this position of a village.

[27:05] Go ahead with that, here are our finance.

[27:07] You know, the finances of the township are nowhere near enough to run money out to do roads.

[27:14] the taste of millions to the roads, we could never generate a lot of money on our operating fund.

[27:21] How much did they use to get tested?

[27:23] Got how many did?

[27:24] Yeah, they did it.

[27:25] Okay, so we go back to the town.

[27:27] They don't have any money?

[27:29] Yeah, they tell us they don't have the money, but that's they can do is do personal funding

[27:33] of projects so they can get more done that way.

[27:36] So, for example, who holds down responsible?

[27:39] I mean, as if the town should hold the town you responsible, who holds the town you responsible?

[27:42] the people that would say, well, there isn't really a way to force them to do that.

[27:49] But sort of comes out.

[27:52] And it's not that Jay that doesn't want to do it.

[27:54] But if they have the funding, if you have to come up with all the roads they just don't have the money.

[27:58] So question them would be to that because if they make a 10 year plan for the roads.

[28:03] I'm sure they did.

[28:05] Oh yeah.

[28:07] But it requires enough money to fund the plan.

[28:12] If you have a printout here, I can print it off of that.

[28:18] I wrote a project presentation that I said is on our website.

[28:22] One of the pages in there has the cost.

[28:26] And this is the cost per mile treatment per mile into 2021.

[28:32] And for a three inch overlay, it's $230,000 to $280,000 for my, I believe that's what South

[28:42] Street was.

[28:43] I'm pretty sure, do you remember in South Street that what they said, I think it was a three

[28:48] inch overlay.

[28:50] The options are chip seal, wedge and chip seal, this is at the order of cost, one and a half

[28:59] That one is $125,150,000 per mile, a two inch overlay, a three inch overlay, or a total

[29:09] recycle of the rose, which is $380 to $460,000 per mile, so it's pretty pricey.

[29:18] And that was in 2021, and you know, construction costs have gone off, they'll go off.

[29:28] Kelly?

[29:29] Kelly Anderson, didn't the Kelly some years ago buy some big fancy machine and

[29:35] supposed to grind up a very top of this and I was late because I had a job and I

[29:39] can't get here at five o'clock. They got this machine that's going to reveal all of the

[29:44] roses and there's the county and they spent a ton of money on it and I'm going to

[29:58] I assume that machine.

[30:00] Maybe you asked some of the folks in this project. I don't know, you know, the plan would be to reach, but yeah, they do have that machine. They're using it on the county roads that they would do, the primary roads that they weren't found.

[30:15] The other thing I'd like to say is everybody in here, go home and look at your task and look at how many lines we have voted in.

[30:23] We took a couple of those things off, we might be able to pay for roads, but we just passed

[30:29] a full-time rider and police knowledge that the wealthy township of Napoleon probably

[30:34] doesn't need.

[30:36] The problem with people are really chabby, but I ask everything, I don't care if I'm going

[30:40] to do it.

[30:42] I ask everything, I don't care if I'm going to do it.

[30:43] I'm following a police of fire equipment, full-time fire, you know, I'm totally

[30:49] I'm a good one.

[30:51] I'm a good one.

[30:55] We got nine full of nine.

[30:57] We got nine full of nine.

[30:58] We have to find four.

[30:59] We have that millages passed.

[31:03] We're here to talk about rollers.

[31:05] We have to kind of be positive.

[31:07] We all understand the frustration.

[31:09] I'm frustrated too.

[31:11] We all take the taxes.

[31:15] .

[31:16] because so many people will complain about the rules and it can be voted

[31:20] no.

[31:21] You can put to the people, put it out there to the people.

[31:25] And I really would like for everybody to spread the word to

[31:30] neighbours and friends.

[31:33] It's kind of hard to get the word out, you can hardly get the word out about

[31:35] them, I'm eating but I'm not pulling me.

[31:38] Because I'm putting it on our side.

[31:39] on our website, but to get the word out to everybody, you know, make your decision, but we just

[31:46] want to give you that choice. Go ahead, John.

[31:49] John Cuddens, come on drive. If you guys put in the dummy research and put in a

[31:55] collaborate effort together in average maintenance costs for vehicles that are damaged

[32:00] but they're, I look at it on board and feel like I'm the candidate for UPS and Johnson.

[32:05] The average maintenance cost amount of vehicle and Michigan in 7 years old, about 100,000 miles, is $1500 and some dollars a year, that's average maintenance cost.

[32:14] You can drive it.

[32:15] Now, I'm not proposing yet your name on this, but I'd really like to drive down Roosevelt and my teeth knocked out in my head.

[32:21] So, like, that's something to really consider.

[32:24] I know it's too late to show you guys what that number together before it becomes a valid proposal,

[32:30] But after it is, which I'm assuming the board is going to recommend it, you're going to have to

[32:34] publish it to an A section here, I'm assuming, just some information together on that.

[32:39] The really like people know, so you might be paying $220 more a year and your taxes are gross,

[32:46] but a ball joint repair is going to go in front of you and some, a ball joint, about 2,012

[32:51] can, and it's going to cost you $450, a bowl of entire, is going to cost you $200, a total bill,

[32:58] It's going to cost you 150 bucks each car in your house, so you're proposing that the town

[33:03] should put money together for that?

[33:05] No, I'm proposing that you put information together and let the people know as part of your

[33:10] presentation.

[33:11] Look at what you could be saying and you'll be in closing with your thoughts, but I'm not destroying

[33:16] your vehicle.

[33:17] I'm driving my bad roads.

[33:18] You might say a little upfront, but I think the long-term costs and vehicle maintenance will

[33:23] across that a large portion of it.

[33:26] I mean, you're being a hundred, you don't give this.

[33:30] Market value, or homes $250,000, and you're paying $107,000 a year

[33:34] for this knowledge that you next to tire, or if it's-

[33:38] That's what it is, or if you're getting it, I don't know.

[33:40] People will look at your look at that size of it.

[33:45] Okay, this is passing, yeah.

[33:47] So, quick question, and I apologize for this question,

[33:50] but how long is the knowledge forward six years?

[33:54] six years. And then is, and I just go on my way up in India. So whoever does the roads do they

[34:02] hear his team for any number of years or, probably not get there's a lot of some kind.

[34:10] Well, they would, they would, they would build them to the current county stands for those standards.

[34:17] They, they had their, they, they asked the village, got the roads take and probably went into

[34:22] for years their robots demolished.

[34:27] So they just had to be another page.

[34:30] Well, some of the times that's milled

[34:32] was an 18 year.

[34:35] So they were still in the old school.

[34:38] So this was not on the diagonal.

[34:41] Or McDeva is a primary road.

[34:44] That was not part of their village.

[34:47] That was done by the county.

[34:48] And deved its natural local,

[34:50] a local road, it was done by the Weston by the county.

[34:54] by the state. I think it's a state. I believe it's a state world like a higher

[35:00] center. I thought it was a gentleman. I'm pretty sure it's not a world world.

[35:04] To make that it was not covered by the knowledge, but it does, but it does.

[35:09] But does that have, I mean, do they guarantee their work? I mean, like, this world is going to last.

[35:13] I don't know. It's the county. That's the question. Who actually does the action work?

[35:17] The county does the county. The county. The county. The county.

[35:21] So I think as Hessus, to what she's saying, you're answering questions very gradually,

[35:26] think she's talking about, before they read the roads in Vandercord,

[35:31] McDibit was done singularly by itself, and it was so kind of traded out to a third-party company,

[35:40] like Joe Biden don't have to ask for company. Well, it's very common if you do a little research

[35:44] down this, when they saw it out to a company like that, I'll go out by 4-8 machines,

[35:50] aggregate machines, everything, they'll do the road, break it all the money, file bankruptcy,

[35:55] pulls up my shop and move to Mexico. And that's very specifically what that company did

[35:59] on McDivet. So the county was just left with an empty bag in a bad road. That's exactly what happened.

[36:07] Well, that's where it comes into the county's ability to manage the subcontractor. They should

[36:12] and inspect yourself, they're sure to find the workers for the next year.

[36:16] But this won't be subcontracted, this will be the county doing all this work correctly.

[36:21] They may subcontract part of the field use as much as they can themselves, but they may

[36:26] subcontract part of it, it wouldn't be for business to do that.

[36:30] But they don't have enough manpower to do the work, and sometimes they'll get caught.

[36:34] But it still have to be to their engineering standards, it would be inspected by their people.

[36:39] and in theory, it shouldn't make any difference

[36:41] who does it as long as it's done to the proper engineering standards

[36:44] with proper quality of materials.

[36:50] You and that, they do.

[36:52] Diane, people will have.

[36:54] That last name.

[36:55] I'll do O.L.

[36:56] C.O.T.

[36:59] If I understood what you said in order to put this on the November ballot,

[37:03] it has to be put together by August 13.

[37:06] So that sounds to me like, we're kind of down to the wire.

[37:10] Maybe you'll have been working on this for a year and a half,

[37:12] you didn't really realize it, but it seems like if you had backed it up 60 or 90 days

[37:17] and I might have done a little bit more time for people to think about it and push more

[37:21] employer or whatever, I'm just kind of thinking about it.

[37:24] We did have two other meetings earlier in the year, and if it were maybe page.

[37:30] We don't know exactly where they were, and Jackson County Department of Transportation did come and put out in this slide show and we tweet, we didn't talk about it, and that's what prompted us to put together the meeting.

[37:42] But, yeah, I see a point.

[37:43] I mean, you're, I don't hear a lot of things on the meeting.

[37:46] Yeah, it's hard to get a word out, you know, but they're quite a few people here at the one meeting.

[37:52] A part of the meeting.

[37:53] A part of the meeting.

[37:55] A part of the meeting.

[37:57] for people to learn more about it between now and when people have to actually make it.

[38:01] But it would be helpful to us if you would give us your thoughts on rallying things.

[38:06] Six years is the right amount of time.

[38:09] There's one and a half mills the right amount of millage.

[38:12] It is the side of the roads that are being considered to be done.

[38:16] If you can give us input on those, that would be helpful.

[38:19] Because we're going to have a special work meeting in 630.

[38:22] And we can modify that if you tell us something is very convincing

[38:25] that should be different on it for a reason that it presents to us that should be different.

[38:32] Time for F-A-R, not a large circle, but what I see in this and green is not a large

[38:38] as a green, marked area mean, probably 12-18 years, how to get it any done at that.

[38:47] The only thing that's ever been done at a growing up under 32 years is nothing other than

[38:52] the county comes out.

[38:53] It shows a little hot panacea and drives a truck over the slushes of water out of the spring and it refreses and you got a bigger hole.

[39:02] So the responsibility in our overall maintenance on the road is zero.

[39:07] If that's a bank, they call the birch on the presentation.

[39:10] They're in the presentation of the birch between the row and seven tape and the grass.

[39:16] When the grass on any road is higher than your pigment, it's going to hold water.

[39:20] And I don't care if you put six inches of asphalt on there, and you're not going to do that.

[39:25] I know you're rolling, although if you don't take care of the side of it,

[39:31] and take care of that problem in the water infiltration from the beef, which pops it up.

[39:35] It's fruitless.

[39:37] All right, I agree.

[39:39] And I want sort of, I want sort of the color of the chip and seal is an election year option,

[39:44] because it looks pretty to have to be election.

[39:50] Yeah, most of the rows would not be check and seal, they would be the overlays or total

[39:59] recycling.

[40:00] Now, not all our, you know, as a neighborhood for the six years, we're proposing, we're

[40:06] doing these, we'd like to touch on these rows, there's any other suggestions, but, and then

[40:14] after six years, if it is renewed, then we would move in,

[40:18] they would move in to doing some of the roads in the neighborhoods.

[40:22] They're just not as well-traveled as these roads,

[40:25] which is why these were proposed.

[40:29] Hit.

[40:29] The next.

[40:31] So, answer your question.

[40:34] I'm going to answer your question first.

[40:35] So, you mentioned, given the demographic of our township,

[40:39] versus other townships, this is a proposal you guys think,

[40:42] has maybe the best shot of being improved by the persons of the township, by the morning

[40:47] persons.

[40:49] Did you guys do it together, potential, like a summer township or a spring hour, for

[40:54] a one-kiss, one-time, 15-year, this is it, it's going to encompass all the roads.

[40:59] We asked about it.

[41:00] Actually, the presentation of the county did, includes options to do everything in a very

[41:07] large price tag.

[41:08] When we saw a cap in the Lionian and in Grass Lake, we thought the chance of all the roads

[41:14] known as Grass Lake.

[41:15] I was probably somewhere to work out in Grass Lake.

[41:18] Lionian, so we did a series that could serve a pretty four-melt proposal.

[41:25] So with the ten year, for instance, it's okay to get all the roads done in ten years.

[41:30] The millages done and then some of the roads after 15, 20 years.

[41:38] are going to need it again. I believe it's concrete, not all totally on this, but I believe it's

[41:45] concrete that has a peak, it's 1,000, and it's continuous. So their roads are all, they're apparently

[41:53] not driven around concrete, but apparently they're all pretty darn nice. They just keep, you know,

[42:01] when roads don't, and they keep going, and then they circle back and do that kind of what we're

[42:06] Anything here, if you can get the six years, it keeps getting re-do.

[42:11] Then after, you know, 20 years or 24 years, or whatever, then we go back to the

[42:18] continuous.

[42:19] So Dave, if you're watching, then directly out of the day, I think six years is a fair

[42:23] number.

[42:24] And because you're encompassing roads first, that will be the fastest travels.

[42:29] So they need to be the safest roads, they're most likely for injury.

[42:34] And then subdivisions, either of us can mark, it's a twenty-five mile an hour, not driving fast.

[42:42] So I mean, if you drive fast enough to damage your vehicle or next detail you've had in subdivisions,

[42:47] I'd say you slowed down a little bit.

[42:49] So I think six years since it was a good number, as long as we get back to this after six years,

[42:54] and it's a true fault and it's done.

[42:57] Then we come back in six years and reassess it.

[42:59] And then that, you know, the sub-revisions are, you know?

[43:04] Yeah, and that's enough time to see if this could really accomplish enough that the residents will figure

[43:09] it's worth what they're paying.

[43:12] And if it's not, it stops happening in the six years.

[43:15] These villages that are approved for 15, 17, 18 years,

[43:19] if people end up disappointed in those time shifts before they accomplish this,

[43:23] while the road start deteriorating before the millions is even finished being paid.

[43:27] And they're taking a service that we're not taking,

[43:30] but doing a short amount.

[43:32] And there's also, as always, the chance that the state

[43:35] might come up with more money and start giving

[43:37] the county more money to do rows and, you know,

[43:41] with a six-year time frame, if that happens,

[43:44] we won't be locked into a long-term village,

[43:46] so we might not be able to.

[43:48] Also, I just wanted to point out that we did

[43:50] give you a sheet that has a phone number.

[43:53] If you have any major, you know,

[43:56] any potables or anything on your rope, it really does work.

[43:59] If you call that number which is just a county department of transportation, they do come out

[44:04] and they do their little repair, but it's got a bad spot.

[44:08] Please give them a call.

[44:09] It looks more of a site called here.

[44:11] It's a not sheet here that's up here on the table.

[44:15] It's also on the county website, but the town is easy to find.

[44:18] It works.

[44:21] So how does the county decide what sort of work was in all of Jackson County and how

[44:30] is there any way to sort of move and make them or I think the people who play in a lot

[44:36] that have been impacted with one of the choose that's having to come up with that.

[44:40] Yeah, the squeaky wheel.

[44:41] Yeah, I think it does.

[44:42] In fact, it's one of the factors that I'm certain not the only one.

[44:46] the pace or rating of the road, I think, is the major consideration.

[44:51] But we have the intelligence, it's hard in transportation,

[44:55] and it does, they have this pace or scale, like I said,

[44:58] the roads once before every day.

[45:00] I think this goes up to 10. They have people of value rating, roll call, the county. So, they would decide on the primary roads.

[45:09] And they will think why we need to evaluate the roads this year because some roads deteriorate in a whole rack of different other systems. Keep track of what's actually happening.

[45:19] So basically, if there are maybe enough people come up with a different road to the right people to the right people to the right

[45:26] county to the right actually, so that actually, that would be very, it's just sort of owed to that for us.

[45:32] People would increase the likelihood of something happening.

[45:35] I think that's a good point.

[45:36] You have a county commissioner too.

[45:38] Yeah.

[45:40] There's no longer a separate road commission, the county commission actually managed to manage just overnight

[45:45] to be so.

[45:45] So at some time, that's another vehicle to get your voice heard.

[45:51] Okay.

[45:51] Coming.

[45:52] I think we should get a bunch of people in the call.

[45:54] We'll explain to you.

[45:55] We'll get a certain complaint.

[45:57] And then we'll get a complaint.

[46:00] We'll get a complaint.

[46:00] We'll get a couple of us.

[46:02] We'll get a couple of people in the call.

[46:03] No, that's not a bad idea.

[46:04] Kelly, it did work on the pop holes.

[46:06] If you just got one call on a pop hole,

[46:10] or 50 call state, they reacted really quick to that.

[46:15] we're going to set a precedent and you want to read it this ever six years and then

[46:20] people go all it's just really good. They don't realize their task is a little down

[46:24] if they don't read it like a fire release thing to just pass. But if we just start taking care

[46:29] of our roads, county's going to expect it. And the county's always made hate the roads.

[46:34] It's just we got such a shitty county and cracked it up here.

[46:37] But everything found out. But we should hit the end of our shoulders.

[46:41] And we're going to stress that.

[46:43] And the person never going to go away.

[46:45] They're going to go along the whole way to clear the rules.

[46:47] They're going to go to the assumption.

[46:48] Just let him keep paying for their own words.

[46:50] Why don't I put your money to do the little for real?

[46:53] Press it.

[46:54] I can bring it to the normal.

[46:55] I can give the law for reals in the past.

[46:57] Coming to your top.

[46:58] I'll give that to the public.

[47:01] While the county is bigger now, I have a couple back there.

[47:04] Julie?

[47:05] I just had a quick question about the,

[47:07] I think it could have been getting used to something about becoming majoring percent.

[47:13] They do a 30% match on what we practice.

[47:16] So that's a solid, I mean, they're not going to say all coming to the league 20 or...

[47:21] Well, they've had that same program in place for several years now and their attendance to continue

[47:26] if they have enough time to do that, but they can't guarantee that we'll go and perpetuate

[47:31] every time they talk to them, they say, yeah, we're going to try to do it next year or so.

[47:36] So they don't have to say anything, fame.

[47:39] No, they can't commit to spend money with they can't have.

[47:42] But they do have to contribute, don't they?

[47:46] Well, absolutely.

[47:47] They have to contribute.

[47:48] So long as it takes place in the year in which they sign an agreement

[47:52] to contribute with us, they don't have the money they do.

[47:56] But the agreement is in a state of contact with us.

[47:59] Well, their standard policy is 30% for loans,

[48:02] 50% for bridges and cohorts, and that's the agreement they've always made if they're going to make an agreement with you.

[48:09] But just then I just think they don't happen like if they don't have to, they don't have to, their agreement really isn't.

[48:16] It's their operating policy that they're not locked into an opportunity.

[48:20] Okay.

[48:27] We're kind of about two, seven, five, a gallon, or a gas leak.

[48:32] How much of that is impacted?

[48:36] Yeah, yeah.

[48:39] That's not right.

[48:40] That's not right.

[48:41] That's not right.

[48:43] That's not right.

[48:45] And how much of that offer also goes?

[48:47] It goes from the road.

[48:49] If you go on in the construction website and look in that presentation

[48:53] the J.C. that, of course, has details of how that money is going to cost.

[48:59] There's a couple of pages in there.

[49:01] I think the records are so many pages.

[49:04] Yeah.

[49:06] But it does have a breakdown.

[49:08] It says 40% of Michigan transportation fund is fuel tax.

[49:14] 41% of Michigan transportation fund is the effect of registration fees.

[49:18] That's where most of the money is.

[49:20] The roads get from those things.

[49:25] They also get some grant money, but that almost entirely, almost all of that goes to the primary roads, not the local roads.

[49:34] Maybe repair or patching.

[49:38] Go again as a joy or as a student at night.

[49:45] I think go down as a joy or as a student where the money is going.

[49:48] The fancy round about real fancy work.

[49:51] They don't need to be a fancy resume.

[49:53] We're going 70 on an hour.

[49:55] You know, it's a plain plain bridge to do.

[49:57] A lot of it is stuff that is just waste the money.

[50:02] Oh, wait a

[50:06] minute.

[50:07] Mr. Hanger?

[50:08] Yeah, none.

[50:10] You guys have these rope at this.

[50:11] They do pull around and you turn them into a bush once.

[50:14] And they're going to be built to the tickets,

[50:16] where you're cherry, or at least a lot of the next.

[50:18] They'll be selling it.

[50:19] They'll be selling it.

[50:19] If that's 100,000 pounds, then I know where it's from.

[50:21] of a draw sign, or about the last 24-8 years.

[50:29] How many assesses the roll?

[50:31] That's not the case.

[50:32] That's why we have a group with the orders of,

[50:35] this can be built in a special case,

[50:36] as you do that, so make sure that you're in the call.

[50:39] How many of the counties that position on how the road is done?

[50:43] In a lot of the local roads, a lot of local roads

[50:46] probably don't get a lot of the big sign.

[50:49] We're talking about about the feed room.

[50:52] Plus, there's the freeze.

[50:55] I don't change the cost.

[50:56] That's a bit of a question.

[50:57] Does everybody on these feed rooms come in?

[50:59] There's a little bit of a fix.

[51:01] There's a lot of them.

[51:02] That doesn't count so much.

[51:03] 80,000 in a day.

[51:06] Pam?

[51:07] Yeah, Pam more.

[51:08] I don't know.

[51:10] I don't know.

[51:12] Oregon is seven.

[51:14] Seven.

[51:15] pulling the rope.

[51:18] Simps.

[51:19] You know, big ones.

[51:21] Hearing view up and down.

[51:22] When we put that substation in there,

[51:26] I thought it was just going to be

[51:27] the little trucks that take the fuel to our homes.

[51:30] I didn't realize 24-7.

[51:33] The Simmys were going to be running up and down

[51:35] that section of the pulling and rope.

[51:38] Now, just pouring a baby extra for that.

[51:40] Because I take out the asphalt out of my yard,

[51:46] so I can walk, because they're going up the boundaries,

[51:50] going up the paddles, they go up.

[51:52] Yes, the county comes out, those are a little shoveling

[51:55] and fix the zip, but never dreamed

[51:59] that I'd be living with some minds of going by 20 more so.

[52:06] So you see, on the map, the pulling in road is a local road.

[52:10] Part of, well, part of Napoleon Rose, the part that was just done, it was primary, part of Napoleon Rose, where you live is local, up into, up until part

[52:27] of it is, up until.

[52:30] Brooklyn Road between Brooklyn Road and South Stony Lake Road, and it is on the list to be, you know, in the six years to be redone, but I'm sure they would evaluate, I mean, they will evaluate, you know, what would be best for that, as far as what Oregon, I don't, as far as I know it, I don't know.

[52:52] Did you call it the name?

[52:53] Because the call is the name when in.

[52:55] And then you guys are on board.

[52:57] I don't know.

[52:58] So that will substations.

[52:59] Then they're for FOI of us.

[53:01] But did you realize that there's going to be semi-turning up and down there.

[53:05] Stretch up and point your own 2477-08?

[53:09] So I think that will be 4 or 10 moments.

[53:11] I understand.

[53:12] Exactly.

[53:13] Yeah.

[53:14] It's not what we were.

[53:15] I don't know.

[53:16] I've been over there quite a lot.

[53:18] I'm hoping that I've never dreamed that that's what I would be living in.

[53:24] Please, our question, do we, does a township have the ability to move a head to wake them up?

[53:29] Yeah.

[53:29] There are over four, is that off now?

[53:36] We do have broads laws here.

[53:38] Not from Michigan or Michigan, but we do have broads laws here.

[53:42] That limits.

[53:46] That limits.

[53:48] during certain, as when the thawing is happening.

[53:54] That's when the damage, almost the damage is done during the thawing time.

[53:58] Usually February or depending, it's different everywhere.

[54:04] Okay, and that's where the engineering,

[54:06] but the kind of things, and there are certain roads that are engineered

[54:09] to be all Caesar, unless you don't have frost prohibitions on it

[54:13] because it builds solidly enough.

[54:15] And you know, it's not really a road to ask me if you're not able to build it to a stretch.

[54:20] And we're not road-outs parts for this touch.

[54:24] We're trying to learn as much as we can for this purpose,

[54:27] but unfortunately, an answer a lot in your questions.

[54:31] But we'll talk about time.

[54:32] When you guys were looking in front of the schools on the west side there,

[54:36] or is this going to encompass their shoulders that everybody parks on?

[54:40] Are we going to extend the road out to the dirt shoulders we're going to park in it?

[54:44] with, you know, where it gets all walked out in one bowl,

[54:47] is that is that something you guys consider

[54:49] in this to extend that out into that,

[54:52] or is it just the specific road part?

[54:55] I don't think decisions have been made to that one bowl.

[54:57] Yeah, I don't know, I would assume that it would be sold

[54:59] or it would be sold.

[55:00] Well, if there is a shoulder there,

[55:02] but you could, wherever it pulls off,

[55:04] yes, you are talking about it.

[55:06] And every part is there for fastball games,

[55:08] the sporty events and, you know,

[55:10] pair to Chicago says, it's a nice,

[55:12] If I recall that, it's included and I would like it to be.

[55:15] That's something I've asked.

[55:17] I think that'd be the idea.

[55:25] That's recent.

[55:26] I just, you know, a couple hundred bucks don't sound horrible.

[55:30] But it'll be 10, 12 years before I see anything on my road.

[55:33] And I just don't know if I'm willing to commit.

[55:37] If I'm not going to see any kind of benefit,

[55:40] is there any way that you get some neighborhood roads in this too?

[55:45] Well, besides just these more, I guess, what we're trying to do?

[55:49] Yeah, we just can't do what with the one, you know, that you live in a neighborhood, but you, if you live on,

[55:54] um, by any year, you're going to go down and we're going to go to a neighborhood.

[55:58] You know, we try to, you, a lot of neighborhoods are, people look down after some, a lot of,

[56:04] Sony Lake Road, it has a lot of neighborhoods. We try to get roads, yeah, Katie,

[56:11] You know, you need to defend it and when we do have nicer roles, it's a reflection on the township, too.

[56:21] Sorry, what was your first name?

[56:23] Diane.

[56:24] Thank you.

[56:27] Dr. Question.

[56:29] To read her out on this idea, it's about the 30%.

[56:32] You said it's good within the first year, technically, but they did not perpetuate anything.

[56:36] No year to year on those, yes, it depends on whether they get enough funding in the subsequent one.

[56:42] Okay, my question specifically is, what is the village cover?

[56:46] What you guys want to do in this first six years?

[56:48] If they, and the 30%?

[56:51] No, we will get lost.

[56:54] Then there will be the end-off to do with that.

[56:56] If they did, they could be at the 30% or the summit,

[57:01] and could just bring out the other ones.

[57:04] The only day lives of the student.

[57:06] They just can't predict if the student is there.

[57:08] Yeah, they can't predict.

[57:09] Or do you have to go?

[57:10] They've had that policy for years.

[57:13] As long as I can remember,

[57:15] okay, the special assessment districts we did in Fox Farm

[57:17] and elsewhere they looked they were doing

[57:19] the three percent in the back.

[57:21] So we have no reasons to think that it won't happen

[57:24] going forward. They just can't promise this.

[57:28] You have the list of the proposed proposed repairs

[57:32] by year.

[57:34] So that first year is these road to the next year, it's these or anything like that.

[57:41] So the size of the house that I want you to know about.

[57:44] And that level of commitment isn't really associated with the millions and millions more.

[57:50] Kind of going to trust the board and the government bodies.

[57:54] The rule decisions within what comes in the citizens.

[57:57] So the board will determine the priority of the roads and the mayor will take it down.

[58:02] Yeah, exactly.

[58:05] With the input, based on what Jackson County Department

[58:09] tries to be taken to help us.

[58:11] And by their success, by because, like,

[58:13] hands up, they assess the roles and shinning the same.

[58:18] So, yeah?

[58:20] Interesting, so, Rosa, they go to the contract and realize

[58:23] that you get to know that people take their votes

[58:27] down at all the time, that they want to direct.

[58:29] He is a speedway with both common and going,

[58:33] and since the moment he's at Butterfield,

[58:35] what a radio is now.

[58:37] And they think it's a public launch

[58:38] that it's not a public launch,

[58:40] it's a private, it's a private, it's a private,

[58:42] it's a green and orange,

[58:43] it's a kind of a dark and divine.

[58:45] So more or less, because of both coming up down through there,

[58:48] they've not those over when they're coming to go

[58:51] and if it's terrible, we get a nest going there.

[58:55] I don't understand what they're about.

[58:56] And they really shouldn't be putting their boats in down there.

[59:01] Mr. Haker?

[59:02] Oh, if the status is not only the top of the answer yet, all the taxes are moved on to

[59:08] 20% of the social media over here, the funding tax, and how many other wonderful

[59:12] grapicals are not working.

[59:13] Let's go on on our mirror taxes or something.

[59:16] I'll go on the winter taxes that would go on to do this December's tax bill if it passes

[59:20] another number.

[59:26] What are your feelings, everybody else's best to say?

[59:29] Yeah.

[59:29] I think for a board standpoint, I'm working on this.

[59:32] I'm working on this.

[59:32] five to ten years. We're not pushing it, we're just giving you that.

[59:40] Yeah, people deserve to have a choice if they want to do something. If majority of people don't

[59:46] want to fund additional work on their own, so they can't off our back. We just want to give

[59:52] people the option and totally understand it. There are so security doesn't go very far,

[59:58] totally understand, we just want to give it to you.

[1:00:00] We're going to be on the right to have a meeting.

[1:00:03] We're going to be on the right to have a meeting.

[1:00:05] We're going to be on the right to have a meeting.

[1:00:07] We're going to be on the right to have a meeting.

[1:00:07] I think it's a bunch of interruptions.

[1:00:11] Anyone else having more questions or a bill?

[1:00:14] Yeah, I hope because we, the kind of ship, effectively communicate

[1:00:20] to people other than in the room.

[1:00:23] What's the one on?

[1:00:26] What the Holy.

[1:00:30] Well, Mr. Austin, are very active on social media.

[1:00:34] Yes, I do.

[1:00:36] A lot of people aren't social media.

[1:00:38] You know, if I put it on to pulling a new site,

[1:00:41] but I also put it on mine for people that my own Facebook page

[1:00:45] for people that aren't, and don't get in the pulling news,

[1:00:52] we put it out there as much as we can,

[1:00:55] And if you have a flyer that we're going to make, we'll put that flyer out.

[1:01:00] We've talked about different ways of promoting the Michigan, I can't remember the name of it.

[1:01:10] Michigan was keeping, I don't know, associated with something.

[1:01:13] They donated $5,000 to some internship to use for promoting it, basically.

[1:01:22] So, we're going to try to get that because the township can't use any funds.

[1:01:28] This is any of our funds for promoting it.

[1:01:31] This is just something that, you know, this community is put together and it's supposed to

[1:01:35] get the township.

[1:01:37] But if we, you know, we're going to get that, we'll be set for some signs.

[1:01:41] And so we would like to do a little bit of advertising, but the best way to do it is to

[1:01:50] I don't know how to do it, but I just like voting buttons where you can, you know, you can get it there and go, I like this right now.

[1:01:59] I'll be like a bolt.

[1:02:00] You know, the problem I'm looking to call you in news is it's not really a representative, you see it in both the citizens of the township.

[1:02:06] And there are a lot of people in there who don't even live in the township, so you never know how a representative is.

[1:02:11] It's true to be this, it has its broad stress.

[1:02:15] You know, if people don't know about it, it's probably not good.

[1:02:18] We're going to try this, you know, the message out as much as we can.

[1:02:23] You're local, nice.

[1:02:25] We have a couple of more, we might have a couple more.

[1:02:28] We talked about meetings, public, more public information sessions as it gets closer.

[1:02:36] Thank you for what you did. You put out a lot of stuff about work.

[1:02:39] Bill, you're local newspaper might have a story about it too.

[1:02:45] Sorry buddy.

[1:02:47] If you want.

[1:02:49] If you want.

[1:02:50] If you want.

[1:02:51] If the meeting minutes.

[1:02:52] Go on to website.

[1:02:54] Yes.

[1:02:56] Thank you.

[1:02:57] So if I take this as an official.

[1:02:59] This isn't.

[1:02:59] This is a public hearing.

[1:03:01] But it's also important to be an official.

[1:03:03] It's here so there shouldn't be an email.

[1:03:04] Okay.

[1:03:05] So there will be minutes.

[1:03:06] But all our meetings are public.

[1:03:08] I have to say potentially.

[1:03:10] Because I go there and the law clinic that has access.

[1:03:15] So, it takes a while to get out of the website.

[1:03:20] Yeah, they've been told the next regular board meeting.

[1:03:22] I mean, it's not actually a proof.

[1:03:24] It's one of those artists.

[1:03:26] I thought there's always a month back.

[1:03:27] Yeah, there's a month back.

[1:03:30] Yeah, there's a month back.

[1:03:31] Yep.

[1:03:32] My name's Rally.

[1:03:34] I'm home.

[1:03:34] I've got a hard way to run.

[1:03:36] So I don't...

[1:03:37] I wrote nice.

[1:03:39] But...

[1:03:41] Um...

[1:03:42] If...

[1:03:43] You guys put this kind of millage

[1:03:45] or without being valid. Are we going to be a little more or less a day? I mean, this is just going to need to fix the rules.

[1:03:52] Or are you going to say we're going to fix something like we're going to fix this or we're going to fix that wrong?

[1:03:57] In the next six years.

[1:03:59] This is a man.

[1:03:59] Statling with that would not be on the actual ballot, but you do.

[1:04:04] So would it be for today again?

[1:04:07] Yeah, I think he just handed you the post-language.

[1:04:11] That's what it will say on them.

[1:04:12] So this is on the line, right?

[1:04:15] No, no.

[1:04:16] Now, there is a map on the road project

[1:04:21] presentation that shows all the local roads,

[1:04:25] which shows all the green roads.

[1:04:27] But it does not.

[1:04:28] We do not have anything on the website for this millage

[1:04:32] proposal yet because we haven't approved it yet.

[1:04:37] So eventually, we'll have more information on the website.

[1:04:40] But when you get the village out there, when you vote for it, because I know a lot of people

[1:04:46] I've got to get a prop in the last moment that it was so big, didn't really say what

[1:04:50] I was going for, just a general.

[1:04:54] So if you know what we're voting for, like this is not a fix, within the next six years we're

[1:05:01] going to do 1.5 mills, we're going to play in the fix, I mean doesn't guarantee, but we're

[1:05:07] plan if it's more stony than we're going to plan if it's Katie, we're going to plan if it's

[1:05:12] over point.

[1:05:14] Yeah, I see what you're saying.

[1:05:15] I see your point.

[1:05:17] I can't put the proposal language together based on all of the other road millage proposals

[1:05:24] that have been put on balance.

[1:05:27] But you see what you're saying just to have a little bit more specifics.

[1:05:32] And then we're going to work in the money and how many of these eight-on-cap money.

[1:05:40] The worst thing ever happened.

[1:05:43] The worst thing ever happened.

[1:05:44] Excuse me, Robin, what's your last name?

[1:05:47] The first one.

[1:05:48] The first one.

[1:05:52] The first one.

[1:05:56] The first one.

[1:05:59] The first one.

[1:05:59] I don't know how to make a good book online research specific in there because there are too many of them.

[1:06:05] They're not all fast.

[1:06:06] The price should be an increase.

[1:06:08] We don't know if I'm sure there's going to be a cotton hatch.

[1:06:11] We don't know if some girls need to treat it or rapidly.

[1:06:14] But others don't have to change their priorities.

[1:06:16] So we really can't lock ourselves in all these things like that.

[1:06:19] I know these languages are going to be finding out for such years.

[1:06:27] Maybe we can get the math even in that.

[1:06:29] I'm just guessing maybe we could get it like in the exponent or

[1:06:33] We have a, like I said, we have a, a priori that was kind of putting together to try to get the word out.

[1:06:41] We put that in a local place.

[1:06:44] We can load that in front of the board.

[1:06:47] Yeah.

[1:06:49] We'll have more information on the website.

[1:06:51] We just don't have anything yet.

[1:06:53] That road presentation.

[1:06:55] Road project presentations on there's been on there for probably.

[1:07:00] We did most of them.

[1:07:02] We are now.

[1:07:04] So my other question was, do we just need a money or a debt?

[1:07:08] How do we need a money or a debt?

[1:07:11] How do we lose over seeing a debt?

[1:07:14] But the Toucher Board will manage the spending of that money and negotiate with the

[1:07:21] Jackson County Department of Transportation for specific projects and specific

[1:07:24] prices and specific times for completion.

[1:07:30] More, if you've got this, or if you can. Yeah. Well, I just run contracts with the bill number of prices going to be in what's going to be delivered for. That's how we've done the special assessment side of Fox Farms, the other places that we've done, is actually a contractual agreement.

[1:07:50] Any more questions?

[1:07:51] I do. We've got one more.

[1:07:55] The special assessment on Fox Farms.

[1:07:57] Just, I'm off the top of your head right now, I have a number.

[1:08:02] What you have an estimated cost per mile in roads here,

[1:08:06] how many linear feet of road or mile was in five farms?

[1:08:10] And what did that cost when that was done?

[1:08:13] I don't remember off the top of my head.

[1:08:15] I can go look it up.

[1:08:16] But those roads will also probably need to different specifications.

[1:08:20] Thank you so much for having me around.

[1:08:21] Trauma roads that we're now working on.

[1:08:22] Okay, because we're traveling with slower speeds and guys,

[1:08:26] It's different to round the row of pavement, I can get to that though.

[1:08:29] I was just wondering if there's just a roughener where you could throw at us.

[1:08:33] I don't know if we got a man.

[1:08:34] Okay, which one?

[1:08:35] I'll give you the wheels.

[1:08:36] That's all right.

[1:08:40] That's all?

[1:08:41] Yep.

[1:08:41] I have one more question.

[1:08:43] What level of fixes are going to be done in the row?

[1:08:47] Do we need to go to the right?

[1:08:50] It's kind of like a valuation of the road.

[1:08:53] It's a lot of it that they go on.

[1:08:54] I think that case or scale?

[1:08:55] So now we're going to make the recommendation, we'll probably do what they recommend, but we're

[1:09:03] not out of the age.

[1:09:06] So how many options do I agree with that?

[1:09:09] Can I ask you to do this?

[1:09:11] Okay.

[1:09:12] Okay.

[1:09:12] So what do you put?

[1:09:14] So what's the other task?

[1:09:15] And we want to get our own done.

[1:09:17] Then we're going to have to go and campus our neighborhood to see if we can get enough people.

[1:09:21] I'm more to do it right.

[1:09:23] Yeah.

[1:09:24] There's a process.

[1:09:25] process for training as much as possible.

[1:09:28] That usually a couple of people in the neighborhood will be interested enough

[1:09:31] if they'll organize it, usually go around and talk to neighbors and see if there are

[1:09:35] enough people in the rest of the year in, and then circle the adaptation and bring that

[1:09:40] to the board, at least, or at least, if more than 50% of the property in the

[1:09:45] university that are going to be in the district, kind of favor of it than the board will

[1:09:48] use in the start process of creating.

[1:09:51] That's what Paul Meotong said was getting again and seeing it as far as rather than passing the

[1:09:57] leg for a whole time, so it makes us to do many individual special assessment districts

[1:10:02] where people are willing to put up the money to improve the system.

[1:10:06] San Betro tried that a few years ago, and they didn't have enough support right?

[1:10:12] Right.

[1:10:13] We started that process, but halted the process before, against it, it wasn't clear that

[1:10:18] I'm going to worry if people wanted any more.

[1:10:19] So we as the board did that go through it, but told them, you know, hey, you can try again,

[1:10:26] you know, if you get more support, if there's a lot of people didn't feel like they had enough

[1:10:31] specific information and so they had to come back to us, but that one did not go through.

[1:10:40] Sally, how long is that?

[1:10:41] That's like Sally, how long does it go?

[1:10:43] your court, and we did that. I used to live in Lylewood, and we actually did that years ago

[1:10:53] at Arches of the Young and Pate, Rome, there in an animal area. But I don't remember the process.

[1:11:00] It was mostly asked in our neighbor, and I can't remember the process that we went through.

[1:11:08] We get up all the view.

[1:11:14] Yeah,

[1:11:20] yeah.

[1:11:22] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:11:23] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:11:24] I can't see.

[1:11:24] We tried.

[1:11:26] Yeah.

[1:11:28] It felt long.

[1:11:29] It felt long.

[1:11:30] Yeah.

[1:11:31] Oh, yeah.

[1:11:32] I need to ask.

[1:11:34] Maybe.

[1:11:35] That.

[1:11:35] I don't know, the head felt uncomfortable.

[1:11:38] It was a felt uncomfortable.

[1:11:39] I was so emotional and I'm so thrilled.

[1:11:41] Not here, which is the extreme out there.

[1:11:44] And that's the one where everybody puts their votes in.

[1:11:46] And that is really, you know, we have big, huge hot bowls.

[1:11:51] Down at the end of the lake.

[1:11:53] Like, people are almost tip-up in their boats.

[1:11:55] So we're going to go in and in.

[1:11:56] We have, finally somebody who's got some gravel and put it in.

[1:12:02] One of the really big hot bowls there.

[1:12:05] But it is the county's supposed to maintain that route, you know?

[1:12:10] It's a road ahead.

[1:12:12] It's a road ahead.

[1:12:12] It's an unusual situation because the way that

[1:12:16] Aboriginal development was laid out is actually a pathway that works around the lake

[1:12:21] that's not owned by any of the indigenous property owners.

[1:12:25] And that road in actually is adjacent to that pathway.

[1:12:30] So it's really kind of unclear who is responsible for what they're.

[1:12:34] I see what you need now.

[1:12:36] Yeah, we've just, you know, people take a button himself to try to hit it up a little bit.

[1:12:42] It is, yeah.

[1:12:43] Can you say your name for John?

[1:12:44] I'm sorry, for John.

[1:12:45] Yeah.

[1:12:46] Sally, help H&UPT.

[1:12:49] Thank you.

[1:12:49] And then I'm Bell Meer.

[1:12:51] Pardon.

[1:12:52] Bell Meer is spelled.

[1:12:54] 885, Bell Meer.

[1:12:55] No, Bell Meer, please.

[1:12:57] Bell Bell Meer, please.

[1:12:59] you should do a cost from. And the RB.

[1:13:02] Heart. Thank you.

[1:13:04] Thanks.

[1:13:05] I'm not sure that I'm a customer to the cost for a while anymore.

[1:13:08] And that presentation.

[1:13:08] No, I don't know.

[1:13:10] Yeah, that was so nice.

[1:13:11] That's from 2021.

[1:13:14] Yeah, that was nice.

[1:13:16] Thank you.

[1:13:17] So what is the main thing that you think that you're one and a half

[1:13:22] for six years?

[1:13:25] Do you think that's the good reputation?

[1:13:28] What is that you think?

[1:13:29] Something through with each other.

[1:13:31] Yeah.

[1:13:31] I don't think it's not our trust on a three-year-old.

[1:13:35] What if the county all of a sudden comes up with some money

[1:13:38] and now they're going to start doing the roads again for us.

[1:13:40] And now we're stuck with it.

[1:13:42] I think it takes a week and it's all our taxes.

[1:13:46] I'll take a week and a week.

[1:13:49] I'll take a week and a week.

[1:13:53] Yeah.

[1:13:53] I just didn't want it to be so much of a load, you know, for example.

[1:13:58] But I think I owe this well, then in the six, then we keep going, and that would be the hope.

[1:14:07] Thank you.

[1:14:07] You're going to get up from all those four hundred and six of something.

[1:14:11] You're going to mile a year, right?

[1:14:14] Wow.

[1:14:14] How's that going to work out with 50 one miles?

[1:14:16] But four miles.

[1:14:19] Not really difficult.

[1:14:21] Okay.

[1:14:21] You're four hundred and some thousands of this year.

[1:14:23] I'm going to skip next year.

[1:14:24] So four hundred and five miles is only good for two points.

[1:14:27] after one month, these numbers that we were telling us.

[1:14:30] It'll just be on the winter taxes each year.

[1:14:33] And it'll probably slightly more each year

[1:14:35] because the tax will go down there.

[1:14:36] And I also go up, and that's not the change.

[1:14:39] It's going to go up to the correct.

[1:14:40] 4% on the proper size number line.

[1:14:44] So it can go up to the whole center.

[1:14:45] The average of a year.

[1:14:47] It can't go over five.

[1:14:48] What does the have the impact?

[1:14:49] There are a lot of three percent

[1:14:51] of the rate of inflation, which have less.

[1:14:53] It's fine.

[1:14:54] So I'm going to lock the size of the line.

[1:14:55] I'm just going to do this for the first, like you just did.

[1:14:58] In fact, behind the stores.

[1:15:15] Good evening.

[1:15:18] I thought I'd talk about the second one.

[1:15:20] suggestions on that guy.

[1:15:22] And he was supposed to be here for some reason.

[1:15:24] He's not on it.

[1:15:26] He's saying, it's a counsel, a overlord.

[1:15:28] He'd be a counsel for a counsel for a counsel for a counsel.

[1:15:33] He'd be a counsel for a counsel for a counsel.

[1:15:33] That's where he told me to get that stuff before we went back to work.

[1:15:36] What was his name?

[1:15:38] I didn't write down on names, because in most of them this understanding of his life was known.

[1:15:42] Oh no, I said I wanted four tons of these later I said why didn't it take back that.

[1:15:45] behind the sword.

[1:15:47] But I don't know why we know it, but we sell it on the front of the police.

[1:15:51] I think that the building is a set of officers in the right-home

[1:15:54] that has to take a right and go by the people who see that.

[1:15:57] It's just that it works.

[1:15:59] But the county has a certain amount of budget before they consider being

[1:16:03] prepared and that's what they've spent some money from to do some

[1:16:07] of the work around.

[1:16:08] So when they don't meet up, they don't meet that.

[1:16:10] I don't know why.

[1:16:12] I've known that.

[1:16:12] We talked.

[1:16:13] We know.

[1:16:14] we know we did not pay you know we did not pay you know for sure we did not pay you

[1:16:17] you don't have to do that so I just I do want to say too on that math that

[1:16:24] there are 42.2 miles of local roads hard surface local roads in the township and

[1:16:32] 9.4 gravel so 51 miles of road in the town. Local roads in the township so that

[1:16:39] I'm going to call it as a pre-get screen news.

[1:16:43] I think we should write a cross-cut or a process not too,

[1:16:46] is that we can kind of leave you to it

[1:16:48] to make what for the votes you should hear.

[1:16:50] And if it's all it did, they will raise them to that not at that.

[1:16:54] He's been having another commitment.

[1:16:57] But we can have him here.

[1:16:58] We can have him here.

[1:17:00] We can have him here.

[1:17:00] We can have him here two times in the past to do presentations.

[1:17:06] And we will, we will have him that on the other side.

[1:17:09] for it on a value, or the way she does come.

[1:17:12] Imagine that's a real much.

[1:17:17] You better think that through.

[1:17:18] You'll just want me to hear it go.

[1:17:20] Rock, roll, give it all to me.

[1:17:22] Let it be.

[1:17:22] Oh, this is a pie.

[1:17:23] It's still both.

[1:17:24] I have to pass it.

[1:17:25] I have to be.

[1:17:27] I have to pass it.

[1:17:28] I have to pass it.

[1:17:28] You put together your bidding from...

[1:17:31] I have time.

[1:17:32] I need to eat the like Diane's.

[1:17:33] We have local, but I'm not sure.

[1:17:36] I am.

[1:17:36] I can't even do about it.

[1:17:37] A lot of clump in it.

[1:17:38] There we go.

[1:18:44] I think it's a fair process.

[1:18:51] It's a fantastic way to figure it out.

[1:18:54] And in six years, I think it's gone really well.

[1:18:57] It's all the way to the building or a building.

[1:19:00] Or a change, change it.

[1:19:04] Okay, I think we're just going to be going to be going on.

[1:19:07] I don't know. I don't remember. I mean, like jail or something. That is an important thing.

[1:19:12] We don't know. I just wanted to know.

[1:19:15] I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

[1:19:18] That's common. I don't know. I don't know.

[1:19:22] I don't know. I just wanted to know.

[1:19:24] There isn't any anything else in the poll anymore.

[1:19:27] No. I don't know. I don't know if I could get it.

[1:19:32] It can't be on an old van berets.

[1:19:35] That would be quick.

[1:19:37] What are their kids?

[1:19:38] Good.

[1:19:39] If they had an awful solution, just in case of a film.

[1:19:42] But they only got to the 13th.

[1:19:44] They had an already decided that the problem you can't make for the students.

[1:19:50] So yeah?

[1:19:52] So they were one of them.

[1:19:54] And I don't know.

[1:19:55] I just think that this knowledge is the only opportunity we have to handle these

[1:20:03] We can't do it as if it's a neighborhood of assessments, you know, it's just, this is the only way we can handle these roads.

[1:20:22] Okay, I think we're probably good as anybody else from the committee, because I've done all the talking, I just know I need a loss.

[1:20:31] We'd like to be a statement in the lead.

[1:20:35] I do too.

[1:20:37] I think he'll be a great singer.

[1:20:39] I think he'll be a great singer.

[1:20:40] I think he'll be a great singer.

[1:20:44] I think he'll be a great singer.

[1:20:45] I felt all day.

[1:20:48] She did a great job.

[1:20:48] Oh, scared.

[1:20:51] All right.

[1:20:53] Nothing.

[1:20:54] Nothing.

[1:20:55] No.

[1:20:56] This question for quick.

[1:20:58] quick Google for public safety,

[1:21:00] milling funding for POSO fails in Jackson County.

[1:21:03] So if that is not going forward.

[1:21:07] That's just, yes.

[1:21:08] No, yeah, yeah, what did you do to talk about?

[1:21:11] So, so we could post the material.

[1:21:14] Yeah, we can open the,

[1:21:15] and we're building the food.

[1:21:17] We'll just, yes, we'll just,

[1:21:17] wait, five minute free.

[1:21:19] We need to use a jar of it.

[1:21:20] Thanks, everybody.

[1:21:21] We'll be right, right, right.

[1:21:24] We're going to have a couple of me.

[1:21:26] You know, in five minutes, we'll start climbing, and throw a lump of sand in there.

[1:21:31] They throw that.

[1:21:32] We're going to just go slowly to the top.

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