Natchitoches Parish Planning Commission, Monday, December 8, 2025

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[0:01] recording. >> Oh, okay.
[0:07] [laughter] >> Work our way through this.
[0:10] » Yeah, >> I've got 5:00. I'll call the meeting to
[0:14] order. Roll call. >> Yeah, go ahead.
[0:18] » Okay. Mr. Bay >> here.
[0:21] » Mr. Row >> here.
[0:23] » Mr. Shields >> here.
[0:25] » Mr. Diesson >> here. Mr. Cessville here. Mr. Evans
[0:29] » here. >> Miss Sanders
[0:31] » here. >> Miss Green
[0:32] » here. >> All members present.
[0:35] Anyone have a any comments about the minutes of the last meeting?
[0:40] If not, I'd entertain a motion to approve those.
[0:44] » Second. >> I got a motion and a second.
[0:46] » Okay. With a motion and
[0:51] » evidence. Okay. Sorry. >> Okay. And I have a motion in second. Uh
[0:57] I guess We'll go roll call again. Mr. Bay,
[1:01] » yes. >> Mr. Row,
[1:03] » yes. >> Miss Shield,
[1:05] » Mr. Shields, >> yes.
[1:07] » Mason, >> yes.
[1:09] » Miss Suspel, >> yes.
[1:11] » Mr. Evans, >> yes.
[1:13] » Miss Sanders, >> yes.
[1:14] » Miss Green, >> here.
[1:15] » Okay. Motion carries. All right. Um, I would also like to have a a motion to
[1:24] change the agenda. I think all our visitors out there uh are here for one
[1:30] item that's a non-aggenda item. Is there anyone there with an agenda item?
[1:35] » Okay. Uh if we could go ahead and have that part of the meeting, we save them a
[1:40] lot of time having to sit through the rest of it
[1:43] » or we just ask them to move it public comments.
[1:47] » To administer non agenda items nine to uh take that up at this point.
[1:53] » Mr. Chairman, I move we amend the agenda to go ahead and take up item number nine
[1:57] at the first of our agenda for tonight. Second.
[2:01] » I have a motion and a second. >> Roll call. Mr. Bay,
[2:07] » yes. >> Mr. Row,
[2:09] » yes. >> Mr. Shields,
[2:10] » yes. >> Mr. Diesel,
[2:12] » yes. >> Mr. Cesold,
[2:14] » yes. >> Mr. Evans,
[2:15] » yes. >> Miss Sanders,
[2:17] » yes. >> Miss Green,
[2:18] » yes. >> Okay, so done.
[2:21] John, would you like to go now?
[2:31] » This is John Bur who live out on Guian Drive and we got a situation out there
[2:35] that I really don't know what to do with according to the charter. I have to
[2:40] enforce all ordinances. So, I don't know if it's ordinance here,
[2:45] but somebody had moved in. They bought bought a house and they started a
[2:49] business of some kind. What what do they call it?
[2:54] » Treatment facility. >> It's uh Soaring Eagle Sober Living One
[2:59] LLC. >> And they have got an LLC through the
[3:04] Secretary of State. I don't think they have an ID number with our local tax
[3:09] commission that you know about. >> I I've called the tax commission. and
[3:12] they haven't screwed with them. So, and they haven't uh filed for any permits
[3:18] nor an application to do any resoning. >> And of course, what is the name of
[3:22] subdivision? >> Shadow Brook subdivision.
[3:25] » So, so they have the covenant, you know, no business, no vehicle for sale, so on
[3:30] like all covenants. So, so we just need to get some guidance on
[3:36] what I need to do as past president to stop this. And the only thing we have in
[3:42] place to uh the teeth end of these ordinances is
[3:47] electrical ordinance. So y'all talk about it and see what we need
[3:51] to do with it. Um if they haven't filed an application
[3:55] for a permit and don't have a legal permit and they've got an electrical
[4:00] service, I believe uh the service can be disconnected and they have to go would
[4:05] have to go through the process. >> Well, are they already in there?
[4:11] Yes, someone stays there with no patience as you would call them, but
[4:16] there's someone that's there every day. >> They they have put a piece in the paper
[4:20] trying to find a manager to run the thing. So, they are trying to get
[4:24] established >> and they're also going to open. This is
[4:27] a men's facility that they're trying to open in our neighborhood.
[4:30] » I mean, I understand you talking about cut the power off. You can't cut the
[4:33] power off if the bill is paid. >> If the what? If the light bill is paid,
[4:39] you can't everything is in current standard. You you don't have no right to
[4:41] cut the power. >> Well, I don't know about that. That's
[4:44] what I'm trying to find out. But that's what the ordinance is raised in
[4:48] electrical service. >> Well, if it would, it' be a first
[4:54] because I was >> I wasn't going to go out there first. I
[4:56] going to send somebody out. >> No, no. What I'm saying is normally they
[4:59] don't do it like that. >> How they do it? Well,
[5:02] » I mean, the slip code not >> require a permit to put it into the
[5:07] business name, I would think. >> Well, they they should have come before
[5:11] this body before they ever did anything even get an they got the electricity
[5:16] switched over without even coming to get a permit.
[5:19] » Well, what they did they probably put they didn't put it in the name of the
[5:22] business probably >> put it in their name.
[5:25] » Yeah. There there are some code limits to the
[5:29] number of people that can be in that can stay in a dwelling that are not family.
[5:33] » Be nine people together. >> Nine people eight.
[5:37] » Okay. I thought it was low as six. >> I'm not saying that's how many will be
[5:41] staying there. >> Okay. So if if they're nine and I don't
[5:46] I'd have to go back and look at the legal limit.
[5:51] » How many? >> I think it's four. I was told that by a
[5:53] realtor. Yeah.
[5:55] » For non non-family numbers. Correct. >> Right. If if they exceed a certain
[6:01] number, they've got to have a sprinkler system and an alarm system. It's an
[6:05] entirely different thing, but they have to be living as a as a family. There's
[6:12] state laws and things that govern that. So,
[6:16] » and it's not family. >> Who's doing who's the person over?
[6:20] » Uh, Gina HS H E L Ms. is who has um wrote her. Here's a copy for y'all.
[6:29] What's her first name? >> Gina G I N A
[6:37] » and you keep that. >> Okay. I glad we get there. We got
[6:42] » Well, I think just speaking personally though, in my
[6:46] tenure on this board, I haven't seen something like this, but I 100% agree.
[6:50] They should have come before this body >> before they were able to operate. So,
[6:54] something they obviously didn't do that because we didn't see it and you guys
[6:58] would have been here upon those notices, I'm sure. Um, so I don't know that we'll
[7:02] have you an answer tonight, especially with our attorney not present here, but
[7:07] I'm certain there is a legal pathway to hold this until it goes through the
[7:13] proper channels to which each of you should have ample time to voice your
[7:18] opinion in those in those procedures and hearing. get their uh neighborhood
[7:23] covenants that on the development, >> then uh
[7:28] » we can enforce those, but you can get an attorney and you
[7:33] » we have spoken to an attorney that's supposed to be getting back to us. Um
[7:40] but just haven't heard a response yet. >> Well, so would that be a fire marshall
[7:45] review that would >> I would think
[7:47] » cap the number of people and all that? I believe so. You
[7:50] » hear back from them? >> Yeah. There's certain regulations on uh
[7:55] sober living homes and things. Basically is what it sounds like. This is
[7:58] » Yeah. >> Neighborhood with children in there.
[8:02] » Yeah. >> Well, this is this is common, but I I've
[8:05] never seen it come to fruition without some sort of because they are business.
[8:11] So you see them inside inner cities and things like that in neighborhoods, but
[8:16] there's still a process they got to follow to get to this point. And
[8:19] obviously that hadn't been done. And so so neighborhoods like yourself have a
[8:24] voice and whether or not it's welcomed in your neighborhood, right?
[8:27] » And u you know coming up from the front of it, but that process wasn't wasn't
[8:32] followed. So they're behind they're they didn't do what their due diligence.
[8:35] » Yes. >> What happens if they go ahead and do it
[8:37] without coming by here? just put the people. We show up one day and there's
[8:40] nine, eight, eight guys there. >> Well, it sounds like obviously they're
[8:43] already on their way to do it. >> I mean, they've had they have the house
[8:47] remodeled. They're ready to show it >> and ready. I mean, they've already said
[8:51] that they were going to start taking residence on the third.
[8:54] » Yes. So, I think >> so far, as we know, nobody's there.
[8:57] » Mr. Chairman could correct me if he's seen something different. He's been at
[9:00] this a long time. But just thinking at it from a common sense approach in this
[9:04] body, what we're capable of doing is that they should have come for to change
[9:08] the purpose of that property. They would have submitted an application that would
[9:12] have been a reasonzoning for a business at which point you folks would have been
[9:16] notified. We would had a public hearing and then we would have had to vote based
[9:21] on that hearing and the evidence brought before us whether or not we supported it
[9:24] or declined it. And that obviously didn't happen. And as far as the
[9:29] legalities of this body as far as far as as I believe we go, but as far as
[9:34] potentially someone moving in some sort of immediate cease and desist, I don't
[9:38] really know who would be the enforcing partner on that except maybe the fire
[9:42] marshall's office if they haven't [snorts] um gone through all of their uh
[9:47] due diligence with their office. She told me she could do it because she
[9:52] was under the Disability Act, the Americans with Disability Act.
[9:57] » But I wouldn't think that that would bypass.
[9:59] » No, that that won't fire codes.
[10:05] » Yeah, fire code would be the first thing they have to go and get. I think what
[10:10] I'll do in the morning is send a email to the attorney general and and not the
[10:16] attorney general but the secretary of state
[10:19] » and ask them how how was they able to get this LLC without going through all
[10:23] this and >> we'll work at it from there.
[10:27] » Well, I appreciate y'all listening to these folks because they didn't know and
[10:30] I I don't really know what to do with it except turn the power off.
[10:34] » It says it's under fire protection [cough and laughter] six.
[10:37] » Yeah, it is. >> Yeah. So, not only does she have this
[10:40] business, she's going to be opening one in where was the
[10:45] [clears throat] >> or where?
[10:46] » She got one on Coil Lake, she's got one in Clarence, and she's got one on Black
[10:51] Lake. >> The
[10:52] » They all the same thing. >> One one's a bed and breakfast, and then
[10:56] the one in Coil is going to be a women's home, and the one in our neighborhood is
[11:00] going to be a men's home. I seen that >> on Facebook.
[11:04] » Oh, you did? You did? And who is that attorney that would normally be here?
[11:10] » Mansour. >> Mr. Mansour. He works for the the
[11:16] assistant district attorneys. [clears throat]
[11:21] » I told you this for our next meeting. And in the
[11:27] meantime, we'll have time to consult our attorney and and check in Bel.
[11:34] I don't know what action we'd take before there's an application made or or
[11:39] something. What >> I don't know
[11:43] » discuss it as business as you know this business.
[11:47] » I guess my thoughts on it if if she has a bed breakfast and clearance then she
[11:53] should be registered with the tax commission now
[11:57] » and but should have had a a permit >> to do a bed and breakfast also. Isn't
[12:03] that correct? >> Yeah. I don't know where it's located
[12:08] is. I don't know the name of it. >> If she's registered with the tax
[12:12] commission now, we can ask the tax commission to contact her
[12:18] » about this business that she's supposed to open that she doesn't have an
[12:21] occupancy license and all this. So, they can work it from that end. I do
[12:29] think the fire marshall um I don't know what the official
[12:34] revenue or avenues are >> but I think we need to look at a
[12:41] complaint [clears throat] or something to the fire marshal.
[12:44] » I contacted Mr. Corey Leo and they did do a formal complaint based on what I
[12:49] spoke with him about and I sent him all the secretary of state information as
[12:53] well but I have not heard back. They said they were going to send a deputy
[12:56] out to the resident. He didn't know exactly when, but a formal complaint has
[13:00] been filed. >> Doesn't Corey work for the city though?
[13:04] » Not anymore. >> Not anymore.
[13:05] » He just went back to the state. >> That's what um
[13:10] » he's >> he's over community risk reduction for
[13:14] » he's he's very knowledgeable. >> I'll see what I can find out. Secretary
[13:17] of State and I'm sure Julie will try to check with the tax commission and see
[13:21] what's going on there. And >> I didn't realize she didn't know this.
[13:24] » We'll gather up some information on it. there's anything he wants to put on the
[13:29] agenda for the next meeting. >> Well, until we compile, what is the
[13:33] deadline to get on the agenda? >> 20th of the month. January,
[13:39] » we should have some stuff by then or they whoever these people are,
[13:43] » they need to come see y'all, you know. >> Yeah. Get
[13:47] » straightened out. >> I'm trying. And the realtor, whoever
[13:51] sold that should have known >> Virginia Rashio,
[13:55] » whoever it was, you know, >> my she was she with Century 21.
[14:01] » I spoke with Century 21, the um lady over and she said Virginia Moros, I mean
[14:07] Virginia Rashel sold it. >> Well, she got out in the moral. So,
[14:12] cuz I seen it on you, [clears throat] >> but you had something like that,
[14:16] wouldn't you? Whoever they they should have told those people all
[14:20] » surely they're not that >> would they also have to be
[14:26] inspected by the health department. >> Yeah.
[14:32] » That's partly >> they haven't done that yet either as far
[14:36] as we know. >> That's the first I've heard of it
[14:38] tonight and like that is in my fire district as well that I'm the chief of
[14:41] and I I wasn't aware of it. Okay. And so I I will commit to personally circling
[14:45] back from the fire protection side, but also we as the board, we can look at the
[14:50] plan and zoning >> guidelines and ordinances and make sure
[14:53] there's nothing we're missing that >> can be done after the fact. But I think
[14:57] at the >> we'll try to talk to the
[15:00] give John some feedback. Okay.
[15:08] [laughter]
[15:14] » Can I make just a quick comment? There's four widowerower or widows on
[15:20] the street. I'm one of them. I lost my husband in May. I moved here in June
[15:26] from Memphis to be closer to my dad. and my mom lives with me who is a widow
[15:32] also. And then so there's two other widows. So there's four widows that are
[15:36] on a street. And so had I known that this was a possibility, I would have
[15:42] never bought a house on the street to be quite honest. And I'm from Memphis.
[15:47] » I mean, not originally, but in the past 20 years, I've lived in the Memphis
[15:51] [snorts] metro area. And I wouldn't have bought a house on a street if I knew
[15:56] there would be, you know, eight men who are recovering alcoholic and or drug
[16:02] addicts, possibly >> been convicted and been court ordered to
[16:08] attend some type of drug or alcohol treatment and then now they're going to
[16:12] come into a halfway house on the street that I'm going to be three houses down
[16:16] from. So, I'm very freaked out about it and I'm
[16:21] the newest person in the neighborhood. >> Yeah.
[16:26] » Do we need to put it on the
[16:31] » based on our >> We can I mean that's
[16:35] » Julie. We could just add it to the old
[16:39] business.
[16:42] » We may have we may have more information.
[16:45] » Yeah. not willing to come back to the next one.
[16:49] » Yeah, that's fine. >> Oh, yeah.
[16:50] » I mean, because we have small grandkids, too, that are up and down that road
[16:53] » and that's a big concern for me. >> My only concern is I think they're going
[16:58] to do it regardless of what y'all say. >> Yeah.
[17:00] » So, what what we do then that the problem?
[17:07] » I don't think so. I I think there's too there's too many
[17:11] legalities against >> too many
[17:15] » but but they obviously got the cart ahead of the horse and so as we get as
[17:19] we get the cart straighten back out I would encourage all of you obviously the
[17:23] temperature in this room is you don't support that on your street when that
[17:27] day comes and you are noticed that you need to come for the hearing
[17:31] » you need to be here to take turns and voice your thoughts and opinions
[17:34] » we will >> okay
[17:36] » and when is the next meeting that week >> be the first
[17:41] Monday [clears throat] in January, which I mean is the 5th.
[17:48] » That is correct. >> January 5th, January.
[17:51] » She going to do it anyway cuz she told me she could do it. Everybody can do
[17:55] anything. But
[18:01] » you think they have to have a license to do
[18:16] because you don't rush that.
[18:29] » We thank y'all for listening to us. She may not be aware
[18:38] from
[18:45] we got small grand
[18:53] [laughter] or swing on the swing
[18:57] out the house.
[19:12] Well, just because she said that doesn't mean it's going to happen.
[19:17] » Just because she said that don't mean it's going to happen. We going we going
[19:19] to do what we can. >> She's next door.
[19:23] » Yeah, I can imagine. and she come visit me and told me
[19:27] everything she was doing. I didn't know. >> Wow.
[19:32] » Okay. Thank you so much for >> Thank y'all.
[19:35] » All right. See y'all next month. >> I'm sure.
[19:40] [clears throat] >> No, it's okay.
[19:45] » Okay, babe. >> Sorry that happened. We going to do all
[19:48] we can to help you back.
[19:53] » Okay. [laughter] We going to do all we can. I
[20:00] » you everyone ready to get started? We'll see if we can't get this. [laughter]
[20:05] Okay. >> All right. Survey plat item four survey
[20:11] plat subdivision land exhibit one commission to consider an application by
[20:15] Anna Rashell for a survey and subdivision of 13250
[20:20] acres parcel number 0040029860
[20:28] for the purpose of sale. The property is located in section 29
[20:33] township 11 north range 7 west with no physical address
[20:44] and it is the survey is 6.52 acres. Uh it has
[20:51] frontage uh almost 600t of frontage on highway number nine.
[20:57] Um the plat has signatures of the uh owner the Hampton Water District and the
[21:06] parish health. >> Mr. Chairman, I move to approve exhibit
[21:10] number one. >> Second.
[21:12] » I have a motion to second. >> Second by
[21:16] Mason. >> Okay.
[21:18] » Okay. Roll call. M. >> Yes.
[21:21] » Mr. Ro. >> Yes.
[21:23] » M. Mason.
[21:25] » Yes. Yes.
[21:27] » Mr. Evans. >> Yes.
[21:29] » Miss Sanders. >> Miss Green.
[21:32] » Yes. >> Motion carries.
[21:34] » All right. I'm going to have Okay. Exhibit two.
[21:41] Commission to consider an application by Patrick Tobin for a survey and
[21:46] subdivision of 112.04 acre parcel number 0010287450.
[21:56] uh 6 AC and number 0010287451
[22:06] uh 52.04 acres for the purpose of an air uh
[22:12] property. Property is located in section A386
[22:16] township 9 north range 7 west for the physical address of 399 Bosch Ranch
[22:23] Road.
[22:36] I had looked at this.
[22:41] » Okay. Now there track one, two, and three. Uh
[22:47] track one is 16 acres. Track two is 27.74
[22:52] acres. Track 367.18 acres.
[22:57] Uh they are accessible by Parish Road before
[23:07] » BI road. >> Yeah, BI road.
[23:11] » The application is signed by the owner, the water district number one, and the
[23:18] parish health unit. >> I'll make a motion approve.
[23:22] » Second. I have a motion and a second. >> Motion was by Bayion. Second was
[23:27] » Motion by >> Motion by Jason, second by Bayion.
[23:32] » Any further discussion? >> Roll call. Mr. Bay,
[23:36] » yes. >> Mr. Roll,
[23:38] » yes. >> Miss Shields,
[23:40] » yes. [laughter] >> Mr. Dies,
[23:42] » yes. >> Mr. Cess,
[23:43] » yes. >> Mr. Evans,
[23:45] » yes. >> Miss Sanders, [laughter]
[23:47] » Miss Green, >> yes.
[23:48] » Motion carries. >> All right.
[23:52] Exhibit number three,
[23:57] » commission to consider an application by Cheryl Calbert for a survey and
[24:02] subdivision of 33.9 acre parcel number 0042039
[24:09] 0 and parcel number 004114151
[24:17] for purpose of sale. Property is located in section 19 29 and 30 township 11
[24:24] north range 7 west with physical address of 2600 highway 7184
[24:30] campy 71411
[24:39] and [clears throat]
[24:42] there's
[24:45] 1 A and track 1 A and 3A Okay. Uh, it looks like one egg, uh, is land
[24:53] hooked. Uh,
[24:58] I guess our surveyor left. No. [laughter]
[25:03] » You want to explain this one? It's got it's got a servitude u road that u
[25:20] [clears throat] only thing thrown me Brandon's the uh
[25:24] the numbers 1 a and and 3a >> right so there was [clears throat] it
[25:29] was three tracks uh the two long tracks in the back was a track one track two.
[25:35] The one out by the road was track three. Uh she is wanting to combine the two in
[25:42] the back with access to the highway. And then she's looking to sell 3A as it is.
[25:48] » Okay. >> Um so that's self-explanatory. And so
[25:53] there's a um there's a legal access to both lots.
[26:00] » I move we approve exhibit three. Second. Have a motion by Mr. Sessbold and a
[26:06] second by Mr. R. Any further discussion?
[26:13] » Roll call. >> Mr. Bay,
[26:15] » yes. >> Mr. R.
[26:17] » Yes. >> Miss Shields?
[26:19] » Yes. >> Mr. Diesel?
[26:20] » Yes. >> Mr. Sus?
[26:22] » Yes. >> Mr. Evans?
[26:23] » Yes. >> Miss Sanders?
[26:25] » Yes. >> Miss Green? Motion carries.
[26:29] » All right. Um, exhibit 4, commission to consider an application by Dana Collins
[26:35] for survey and subdivision of 324.12 acre parcel number 001201300
[26:44] 0. That's 26.09 acres. Parcel number 0010201200.
[26:54] is 156.32 acre. Parcel number 0010201
[27:04] 5 0 101.95 acre and parcel number
[27:11] 001020
[27:15] 0 which is 39.76 acres for the purpose of air property.
[27:21] Property is located in section five and 23 township 9 north range 7
[27:27] west with physical address of Miller Farm Road.
[27:35] » Is this one of yours too? >> Yes.
[27:37] » You want you want to just go ahead and say it?
[27:40] » Um I just want to make a comment real quick about it. U when we submitted it,
[27:44] we didn't have all the signatures on it. I do have the original with all the
[27:47] signatures today. Um, in between that time I did notice we had a couple very
[27:52] minor errors on it. So, we corrected those and we added a detail as well.
[27:57] None of the tracks changed, none of the access or any of that changed. It was
[28:01] just uh some math stuff. >> Okay. All right.
[28:06] Okay. And there's u and they're all along
[28:12] but they all have frontage along a highway. Yeah.
[28:17] Is that correct? >> Paris Road. Miller Farm Road.
[28:21] » Miller Farm Road. Yeah. >> Okay. Motion.
[28:26] » Very good. >> Second.
[28:28] » Motion by M. Dies. Second by Mr. Evans. Any further discussion? Roll call. Mr.
[28:36] B. >> Yes.
[28:38] » Mr. R. >> Yes.
[28:39] » Mr. Shields. >> Yes.
[28:40] » Mr. Don. >> Yes.
[28:42] » Mr. Ceswell. >> Yes.
[28:43] » Mr. Evans. >> Yes.
[28:45] » Miss Sanders. Yes, >> Miss Green.
[28:47] » Yes. >> Motion carries.
[28:50] All right. >> We do not have a preliminary hearing or
[28:54] public hearing. Uh there's no action on this that do we have any office business
[29:00] we need to conduct. If not, we've already taken care of none. Motion to
[29:05] adjourn. I [snorts] just want to say when I walked in, I thought I had the
[29:09] wrong agenda there for a second. [laughter]
[29:12] I told my wife, I said, "We only going to be a few minutes tonight." I
[29:15] [laughter] say that I said something. I'll make a motion.
[29:24] » Just say I
[29:31] » gota [clears throat] >> you did get in on
[29:35] [laughter]
[29:37] proof that you was here. [laughter]
[29:41] » Yeah, you did. You did. All right, Julie.
[29:49] » Okay, >> I'll be here.
[29:55] » How are you? >> Good. Y'all have a good Christmas?
[29:59] » Well, Santa Claus.
[30:06] Santa Claus saw me. That's not [laughter]
[30:12] » He saw me coming. He went down.
[30:21] » Not so sure I made this. [laughter]
[30:28] » Huh? >> Yeah. You know, I was just looking at
[30:32] you and I see you got
[30:36] » my whole life. And it's got one under your chin, too.
[30:39] » Nah, that's just holes there. I just got holes plugged into [laughter] me now.
[30:45] » You got holes under your chin. >> I just got holes plugged into me now.
[30:49] » See, that's See, that's that's what was always
[30:55] a dip under your chin. Sign these two. >> You'll catch up.
[31:03] [laughter]
[31:39] I usually put it all together.
[31:44] the original for it wasn't in there.
[31:52] » Let's see. >> Unless it got tagged with something
[31:58] else.
[32:03] Oh, you see I signed this one and this is Mark.
[32:22] [laughter]
[32:25] » You think that throw it away that stuff?
[32:31] I'm circle back from the fire side.
[32:54] » Several of them been recorded that way. >> Oh yeah.
[33:03] Yeah, Jimmy's a lot better. Not, you know,
[33:11] » he'll end up asking questions. >> John Bradford was the worst about not
[33:17] signing class. [laughter]
[33:21] » I still to this day I still get looking for signed copy.
[33:26] Good luck. [laughter] He wouldn't even put one in the file.
[33:30] » Yeah. >> But you know, I'm trying to remember
[33:34] what happened to John. Didn't Did he pass or
[33:38] » Oh, yeah. >> Been quite a few years.
[33:41] » Yeah. >> Yeah. I hadn't heard that name in a
[33:45] while.
[33:54] married to Judy.
[34:01] » I can see his face and >> you want the front door or the back
[34:06] door. George, >> um hopefully out the front door. I can
[34:10] go out the back if >> No, I I'm I just I told West the door I
[34:14] was going to lock up. We got the thick folks.
[34:16] » Okay. >> Benned down there.
[34:18] » Hang on. Just I think Julie's looking to make sure we got a plat.
[34:23] » Yeah. Goes out the back door. Anyway, >> let's see.
[34:29] So, this is one >> I don't have it. I got the application
[34:34] in the plate on the 20th. >> Well, I'll double check uh at my office
[34:40] and make sure we don't still have it. I know we got it signed and I I thought I
[34:44] had sent him over here with it >> uh to drop it off, but there's a chance.
[34:47] » The only one that was sent sent was
[34:52] » was that Collins? >> Did we get the
[34:55] » I've got it right here. >> I brought it with me today.
[34:58] » I'll look. It may still be on the rack. >> But I I can sign it, you know. Just you
[35:03] call me. >> Yeah.
[35:06] » Yeah. >> That's okay. It's just my fault. I
[35:08] should have had it here earlier. Well, it's not on the floor over there.
[35:14] » No, I I try to make sure they're all together. So,
[35:22] » I appreciate
[35:48] All right.