[3:41] test. Hello.

[3:48] Mic 10.

[3:54] Yeah, I think I think this one works. Okay. Can you hear me? Okay.

[4:02] Test, test, test. Is it loud enough?

[8:31] the

[8:35] the EV charger in town.

[8:45] Who or what brand charger is it?

[9:31] City actions

[9:35] nights.

[9:39] Uh, no.

[9:45] Yeah, I mean that is kind of

[10:21] Okay, I'm going to get this

[10:40] Hey, I think the link would be best if you

[10:51] you're going to need to write down the code.

[10:55] Enter your access code.

[11:01] What's that? Okay. Ready?

[11:07] The um join by phone is area code 2 36

[11:15] 057

[11:21] then the ID that you'll have in

[11:27] 974 073

[11:42] Yep.

[11:46] Okay. Okay. Thank you.

[12:45] Click that now. Or five. Five of us.

[12:56] Good day, John.

[14:55] Okay, got

[15:00] meeting up. Stephanie and Chris Kelly just confirming you guys

[15:06] can hear us. About to get the meeting started a few minutes late, so

[15:09] apologies.

[15:15] Stephanie, can you acknowledge you can hear us online?

[15:36] Get the

[15:43] Are you talking, Stephanie? Is your computer muted?

[15:56] Can't I can't hear her.

[16:01] Well, that's I guess. Yeah. Can you unmute yourself, Stephanie, and see if

[16:05] that's a possibility? No, you can't unmute. Okay. Chris Kelly, can you

[16:13] unmute?

[16:27] You guys hear me? You guys hear me? There he is. Here it is.

[17:25] I have two mics on. I am unmuted now. If you can hear me,

[17:32] maybe that's good news.

[18:22] Well, if you are all talking, I can't hear you, but I am unmuted

[18:27] just so you know what the public experience is now.

[18:37] Can you hear me now? >> Yes.

[18:40] » Through that microphone, you can. Okay. For some reason, my computer mic's not

[18:46] cooperating. >> Probably shouldn't use this use the

[18:51] use the computer mics. >> Oh, this one wasn't working.

[18:54] » Th This one does work. So, this I'll use the town mic, but the the monitor.

[18:59] Got it. Okay. Okay.

[19:05] All right. Let me just

[19:22] Okay.

[19:28] Well, I really want to call the meeting to order

[19:32] since it's 6:15. Um,

[19:39] so I think I'm going to um call the meeting to order. This my name is Andrew

[19:44] Der, the chair of the NDA, and it is 6:15

[19:50] and I'm gonna ask John if he wants to call the role.

[19:57] Just go around the room.

[20:00] That's okay. I mean, we had the name tags. So, we've got

[20:04] Dwight. Um, Dwight is not here. Dwight's not in

[20:08] tonight. Richard.

[20:13] Okay.

[20:16] » John Thompson. >> John Thompson here.

[20:18] » Yes. Andrew Dert is here. >> And Meg Fox,

[20:23] » I'm here. >> Great. Looks like Chris Larson is not in

[20:27] tonight and Ron should be joining momentarily.

[20:33] So, let me just Sorry, guys. Give us a

[20:39] minute for Ron to call in.

[20:44] » Yeah, that's weird.

[20:49] Says he's dialing now. So, one second. And we can complete our role and have a

[20:54] quorum.

[21:30] I have some

[23:05] for your patience, guys. Ron's trying to dial in. Almost there.

[23:37] to get one of like the Snoopy phones or the Garfield phones. Yeah.

[23:58] Oh, that Ron

[24:04] » calling the roll. Okay, Ron Mitchell >> here. Okay,

[24:10] thank you for your patience everyone while we work through our um trying to

[24:17] get quorum and work through some of the technical things. Um are there any

[24:22] questions or comments on the consent agenda?

[24:29] And if not, I would ask for a motion to approve the consent agenda.

[24:37] A motion to approve the consent agenda. >> I second.

[24:43] » Great. So I will call the role. Um Magg. >> Yes.

[24:50] » And Ron >> here.

[24:53] » Motion to approve the consent agenda. That's a it's a yes or a no for you.

[24:58] » Yes. >> Okay.

[25:01] Um and Richard. >> Yes. and John.

[25:06] » Yes. >> Okay. And And Andrew Dart? Yes. Motion

[25:11] passes. And then is there any public comment on

[25:15] non-aggenda items?

[25:22] » Uh I can't really cycle through and see people online. Um Cass, if you can help

[25:27] me to see if there's any hands up online. Doesn't look like it. Okay. Um,

[25:33] » wait, wait. >> I guess I'm gonna Oh,

[25:36] » I think you can hear me. >> Yes.

[25:39] » But is this the time, Andrew, that I would bring up Ned to go or you're going

[25:43] to bring it up and it will be an item for approval in a future date?

[25:48] » Um, you know, I think I guess this is a good

[25:51] opportunity to to touch on that. you know, tonight I think the intention we

[25:57] have a there's um you know what, Steph, Stephanie, do you

[26:02] want to just go go ahead now and kind of use this and the meeting before we get

[26:07] kind of down a lot of different paths that have to do with governance and

[26:10] transitions and I think this would be a good time for you to to bring up um Ned

[26:15] to go. >> Sure. I'll give it one minute.

[26:20] » Okay. >> I have

[26:21] » you got three minutes. You don't need to keep it to one minute. We can give you

[26:23] three minutes. >> Okay. I have come before the board to

[26:28] talk about nettogo.com and the value that it has for our

[26:32] community in keeping people up to date for eating, drinking establishments,

[26:36] their hours, their menus, how to order online and all the special events that

[26:41] can be public health to music to gatherings of people that are public.

[26:47] Uh, and it goes, as you know, from Netherland down to Cole Creek Canyon

[26:53] down to Rollinsville or over to Rollinsville and to Jamestown. So, it is

[26:58] not all Netherland. However, 80 I think my analysis was 88% of the businesses

[27:03] and events are Netherland. uh and it is a passion project uh that came out of

[27:09] COVID and I keep it updated uh regularly and the business owners all call me,

[27:15] text me, email me when there are updates. So it is nice to collect that

[27:19] information and be a pass through to get it out to the community and then I also

[27:24] market it on Facebook groups and through postering to let people and people who

[27:29] live here and visitors know about it. So come this time of year, the leaf peepers

[27:34] use it as a big resource. And then when it's holiday time, we open up our gift

[27:39] card tab and it's people who used to live here who want to support businesses

[27:44] how they can buy uh a gift card for $200 from the rock shop, etc. And so I have

[27:53] asked in the past for actually the DDA or town to buy this website and we would

[27:59] customize it for the town and only have it be Nutterland. But the last time I

[28:04] said, "Can we just help with uh defay some of my out-ofpocket costs?" So a

[28:10] fraction of those out-of- pocket costs in a year, I came with a $2,000 request

[28:16] and I would like it to continue through the end of this year.

[28:20] Awesome.

[28:25] Thank you, Stephanie. I appreciate you doing that now and in your own voice.

[28:30] Um, okay. Any other public comment on

[28:34] non-aggenda items.

[28:39] Okay. Um then we are going to go into our first action item which is the

[28:48] annual board um officer elections. But before that I guess I'd like to give

[28:52] kind of my second um public comment on non-aggenda items. So

[28:59] you know tonight there's a lot of kind of transition that we're working

[29:03] through. Um, and I think all of the the items that we have to work on are

[29:08] related in one way or another to the bigger picture. Um, we've got a recent

[29:14] resignation of the executive director. We've got some board elections that are

[29:19] happening and then there's also kind of some organizational governments pieces

[29:24] that are working together. So, um, we're all of these things kind of tie back to

[29:30] one another, but the intention that I would like to put out there for tonight

[29:34] is to leave with like a sound financial and governance controls where we've got

[29:39] one owner and one next date for every transition item, an agreement on the

[29:45] information we need before the next budget and project decisions.

[29:50] Um, so tonight, you know, we've kind of gone

[29:54] through the consent agenda and now we're going to get into the government

[29:58] governance and then we're going to get into program decisions and then some

[30:02] transition reports. So, I also want to make it clear I guess now I'm going to

[30:06] move um formally into the next action item which is the annual board officer

[30:12] elections. Um

[30:17] so the one thing that um our bylaws talk about

[30:25] is annual elections but they specify the chair and the vice chair and they don't

[30:31] necess necessarily specify the treasurer. Um, I just want to make that

[30:37] clear tonight that um, we we don't necessarily, my

[30:43] understanding, and John Kane, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but with the

[30:47] bylaws that we're not necessarily voting on a treasurer. The treasurer needs to

[30:52] be named, but it's not something that is required in our bylaws to be voted on

[30:57] every year. >> I think you're right.

[30:59] » Okay, >> that sounds right.

[31:00] » Okay. And currently, our treasurer is John Thompson. Okay. Um so with that in

[31:08] mind, um annual officer elections were delayed from July to August due to

[31:14] recent board appointments. Um we've got still vacancies. Um I intended at the

[31:21] time that I wouldn't seek re-election as chair, but I I want to remain on the

[31:25] chair at at this time. Um I wanted to kind of put put that mentally out there

[31:30] so that the door was open for people. Um but being that at the last election no

[31:35] board members at all expressed interest in serving as chair or vice chair. Um

[31:40] but John Thompson graciously continued expressed willingness to continue

[31:45] serving as treasure. So I think tonight just because of knowing that there's

[31:49] some financial things that we need to talk talk about later. Um, I'd like to,

[31:55] um, revisit the elections and I'd like to throw it out there that I would, um,

[31:59] be happy to continue serving as the chair of the DDA until, you know, we've

[32:05] got some more members and a more stable footing of governance.

[32:10] I'd like to nominate Richard um for vice chair um to he and I were able to have

[32:17] some conversations earlier u in the in the day and week to go over that. Um but

[32:24] I wanted to throw it out there to the rest of the board on their thoughts and

[32:29] feelings.

[32:32] » Ron, were you saying something? >> No, I'm ready to nominate you to be the

[32:38] chair. >> Okay.

[32:40] Um, Meg, how are you doing on elections? >> Um, I'm good. Yeah, I like being a board

[32:48] member. >> Okay, got it. And um, well, I think that

[32:54] kind of makes it um, simple. I guess I would like to um, make a motion to vote

[33:01] for Richard um, Brandon as the vice chair. Can I get a second?

[33:06] » I second a motion. >> Okay. And can I call roll? So Meg,

[33:11] » yes. >> Ron, this is a motion for Richard to be

[33:15] the vice chair. >> Yes.

[33:18] » Okay. And John, I approve. And it's this is Andrew Dart. And it's a yes from me.

[33:25] And Richard, >> uh, that's a yes from me also.

[33:29] » Okay. Awesome. Thank you. >> Is there a motion for the chair?

[33:36] I would like to make a motion for Andrew Andrew Dwart as the chair.

[33:41] » Right. And a second. >> Second.

[33:44] » Okay. >> Second.

[33:46] » Um Richard on the vote. >> Yes.

[33:50] » And John on the vote. >> Yes.

[33:52] » Egg on the vote. >> Yes.

[33:54] » And Andrew, I'll say yes. Okay. Motion passes. Um, and given the the bylaws

[34:02] about the treasure, we're it's noted that the treasur isn't necessarily an

[34:07] annual vote and the board has agreed for John Thompson to remain treasur. So,

[34:14] that is um I think that's it for the officer elections, which is great.

[34:20] » Sweet. Um the next

[34:26] action item. So I recently just had some a

[34:32] conversation with UNMB bank because um there's more to do with this than just

[34:39] um Kate resigning and other governance

[34:44] cleanup that that we've got to do. But I would like to read the resignation

[34:49] letter from Kate for the minutes so that we can all basically UNMB bank

[34:56] said you know just having a resignation letter from the executive director is

[35:01] not enough. That what they what they really need from us is in the meeting

[35:06] minutes to say we as a board want soand so removed and other people added.

[35:13] Currently, the signers on the account include a

[35:18] former treasurer, Steve Roundtree, Kate Massingale, Ron Mitchell, and myself.

[35:25] So, it's going to be after we go through the reading Kate's resignation letter.

[35:31] Um, it's going to be my recommendation that we remove Steve Roundtree and Ron

[35:36] Mitchell as signers on the account. keep the basically are always keeping the

[35:40] chair, vice chair and treasurer on the account would be my um

[35:46] my recommendation. Furthermore, UNMB also said they are not really interested

[35:51] in managing uh you know access to the account. In

[35:56] other words, if you're a serer on the account, you have access to the account

[36:00] and you can make changes and do things. Um, now there may be other banks that

[36:05] would be willing to do some type of you need two out of three signatures in

[36:09] order to do something, but UNMB made it clear that they have no interest in

[36:13] doing that just as a as a heads up. Um, so I think you know internally we want

[36:19] to have some discussion about that and what what that means. Um, I was able to

[36:26] verify the funds in both accounts and

[36:32] they we we still need we're working on some um outside accountant Mandy Near

[36:39] verifying what is currently in the NDA laptop when she is given access to

[36:48] it, which is kind of another point of discussion that we can we can talk

[36:51] about. But for the meantime, let's um formally

[36:56] recognize um Kate's service and then I can read

[37:01] her resignation letter. So the motion

[37:06] let me just find that

[37:37] Sorry, I had to um kind of work on updating a little bit of the language

[37:42] because in the proposed packet, it had language that the bank if we took it to

[37:50] the bank and the language that it's in the packet

[37:53] » how it is saying, you know, need two out of three, they're they're going to send

[37:57] it back to us. So um

[38:03] however we can read the resignation letter.

[38:09] Um so

[38:13] the action item is going to be um I want to read Kate's

[38:21] resignation letter. Dear NDDA board members, please accept this as a formal

[38:26] notification that I am resigning from my position as executive director of the

[38:30] NDDDA. My last day with the organization will be moved or will be Monday, August

[38:36] 31st, 2026. Okay.

[38:41] » Um, so I think the the mo the board we need

[38:46] to make a motion that um I move to accept Kate's resignation effective

[38:53] August 31st, 2026.

[39:03] » I second the motion. >> Is that does that work, John? Anything?

[39:08] Okay. All right. Um, take a vote. John Thompson.

[39:14] Um, yeah. I mean, I think without getting maybe we could do the vote and

[39:19] then discussion if that works or no other way around. Okay. So, yeah, the

[39:24] discussion I mean I think you know Kate was with the DDA for a few years. Um

[39:30] there is a lot of organizational transition that we're in the midst of

[39:35] that if you've been um I think John Thompson because he's the treasurer is

[39:41] aware of some of this and certainly town staff is aware but there are there are

[39:46] some things that have become clear that going forward we need to have better um

[39:52] systems in place because now currently we don't have access and I know town

[39:58] staff is working on this to the DDA a laptop where there is a bunch of

[40:01] information um passwords and accounts and other things that in order for our

[40:08] third party accountant to verify and help with a um a a reconciliation,

[40:15] it's it's kind of put the DDA in a tough spot to be honest. And um not that we

[40:19] can't get through it, but it's just kind of it was a you know basically a week a

[40:24] week or so before the meeting and maybe five business days and working through

[40:30] um a lot of this transition really without any systems in place. That's the

[40:38] one, you know, one example that Steve Roundtree is still a signer on an

[40:42] account and, you know, and he hasn't been on the DDA for,

[40:47] you know, over a year, well over a year. Um,

[40:51] so there's there's certainly some internal kind of reflection and

[40:56] housekeeping that I think this brings up with going forward whatever the

[41:01] organizational structure is that the DDA continues and maintains where you know

[41:07] we basically have a a you know systems and procedures of this is what happens

[41:14] when a new board member is elected or a treasurer changes. is and these steps

[41:22] need to be followed and it shouldn't be something where if um for whatever

[41:27] reason they aren't done then we're kind of and and a resignation happens that

[41:32] everyone's scrambling right so um I think that's

[41:38] you know part of the um discussion that's going to be a common thread

[41:43] throughout the night is you know the transition right like Um the the the

[41:52] we've got you know what what failure looks like for the DDA is urgent

[41:57] packing, urgent packet and bookkeeping work displaces project management.

[42:02] Projects receive updates but not documented closure. Minutes, files, and

[42:07] system ownership depend on one person. The board receives incomplete

[42:12] information and town staff cannot tell what is actually moving. a vacancy

[42:16] becomes an organizational emergency instead of a manageable handoff. So I

[42:21] think we check every single box of failure in that sense tonight, you know,

[42:26] of um that one one vacancy um makes it clear that really there was

[42:34] no systems in place to you know another thing is like there there haven't been

[42:38] minutes uploaded to um the town website in many many months and it's there's you

[42:48] know a bit of um like discussion about that where okay if

[42:57] really it's been kind of working together with town staff and town staff

[43:00] deals with the YouTube uploads and maybe posting of things however it's up to the

[43:07] executive director to go back and make sure the minutes are recorded like

[43:12] there's just things that have kind of maybe happened sometimes better than

[43:16] others in the past but certainly they they stopped happening ing quite some

[43:21] time ago. Um, so it's a really good honestly I'm it's a really good and

[43:26] exciting opportunity to look at all of the things that none of it is rocket

[43:31] science. It's just a matter of, you know, turning over the rocks, looking at

[43:37] things clearly and saying it out loud like what um what what's the issue and

[43:44] you know what's just the proper procedural

[43:48] way to deal with this so that everybody's on the same page and we're

[43:52] supporting town staff and town town staff feels like they're supported. Um,

[43:58] so again, like tonight, um, a lot of what we're talking about is who who

[44:05] carries this transition. Um, so we've got kind of some budget stuff to carry

[44:10] in transition. We've got our basic organizational like minutes, agenda

[44:15] intake, civic web, the recording of the meetings, the action minutes.

[44:20] Incidentally, John, one question. Do you know and cast is this meeting being

[44:23] recorded? It should be. And where can we get the

[44:28] can I access the actual transcript of this meeting so that I can make minutes

[44:34] and then get the minutes back into Civic Web.

[44:40] What's I'm sorry I didn't hear you. >> You need a town account in order to

[44:46] access it on Teams is what I've been told.

[44:48] » Yeah, we're going to have to take care of that for now. We're going to be

[44:51] changing the system to be a live stream to YouTube very soon. Okay. And then

[44:55] that transcript will just be the YouTube transcript. Okay.

[44:58] » And then this one we can get this one uploaded pretty I think we can try to

[45:01] get this one uploaded right away and it'll transcript anyway. But the same

[45:05] security issue exists for the >> Okay. Cuz just there's like a couple

[45:08] there's the organ, you know, the the bylaws and requirements where we have to

[45:13] post the minutes, meaning I got to be able to get the minutes, right?

[45:16] » We can we can help in this transitional meeting and then we'll we'll have a good

[45:18] system. But I'm I'm trying to go back and make sure that the last 10 months of

[45:23] meeting minutes are also posted. >> I understand.

[45:25] » Yeah, >> we're just gonna have to build the

[45:27] system to make it happen. >> Sure.

[45:28] » The if there are wait um I will check with Britt and see where we're at and

[45:33] what we've got stored and how that needs to be, but we can probably get

[45:36] transcripts figured out pretty quickly so we can get that work done. And I

[45:39] would be happy to like take those all and because another thing that I think

[45:42] would be helpful for our partners and town and residents is to be able to look

[45:49] at a summary of the meetings and you know even if it's not the full

[45:54] transcript to go back and say okay this is what the DDA was doing at this month.

[45:58] Um so I think that's for me and you know of any town meeting and any town board.

[46:03] I'd love if all of the, you know, the website was kind of the same where I

[46:07] could look at ProSAB and see what they're talking about or BOT or someone

[46:11] could look at a DDA meeting, you know, click on the month, see the the the high

[46:16] level, um, or see the granular transcript. So, um, I think that helps

[46:21] with communication. It's certainly by I think by law and statute what we need to

[46:25] do. >> Well, I don't know about bylaw and

[46:27] statute, but I agree we want to improve communication as much as possible. It's

[46:31] not a statutory requirement to do something like that. It's statutory to

[46:34] post those minutes. Okay. We also don't have the capacity right now to do that,

[46:38] but I think that we're right in the middle of our strategic planning effort.

[46:41] Yeah. And I think building that capacity is something that we could certainly

[46:44] talk about, especially using some modern tools that could help us with that.

[46:47] » Okay. Um, so for I think at least receiving Kate's resignation, we can do

[46:56] the vote on that now and then kind of continue to carry this conversation

[47:00] because there's a banking signature thing. That's a whole another action

[47:04] item. So, I think we can probably um call I can call the role on the Kate

[47:10] resignation vote again. Um, so we we just stated that um we would move to

[47:16] receive the resignation of Kate Massingale, former executive director

[47:21] effective August 31st, 2026. And I heard Ron, you said

[47:28] » yes, I second it. >> Okay. And Richard, that's your vote.

[47:34] » Yes. >> John Thompson?

[47:37] » Yes. >> And I'm Andrew Durart and I say yes.

[47:40] Egg Fox, >> I'm wondering what not approving of it

[47:44] would even accomplish. >> Um,

[47:48] that's a good question because I think it would it would pass. Um, John Kane,

[47:52] do you have a thought on what would happen?

[47:53] » Agreed with what you just said. >> Yeah.

[47:55] » Okay, I approve. >> Okay.

[47:59] Okay. Um, so the bank made it. Now, we're going to

[48:05] move into the proposed banking changes, um, which is the UNMB banking signer

[48:10] authorization and access transition. Do >> you mind if I ask a quick question?

[48:14] » Yes. >> I was just wondering if we're currently

[48:17] hiring to fill Kate's position or if we're trying to like get our feet under

[48:21] us a little bit and figure out what that position entails first.

[48:25] » That's that's a great question. So, I think it we're Yes. And yes, we are not

[48:30] presently advertising a replacement executive

[48:34] director. My um this is now Andrew Dart talking as chair is that I I certainly

[48:42] acknowledge that there is a a need for a lot of administrative

[48:49] you know agenda intake posting on civic web recording reposting these minutes um

[48:56] and communicating with town staff and DDA vendors. I think we need to have a

[49:02] bigger conversation amongst ourselves and and with town staff and the b like

[49:10] what is really the best um you know what is the best outcome right

[49:16] because we basically had our model previously has been what I'll call the

[49:23] executive director generalist where it's one person owns nearly everything so the

[49:28] former executive um director role combined board

[49:32] administration, public records, bookkeeping, bookkeeping, coordination,

[49:37] communications, programs, and complex project delivery. Those are different

[49:42] disciplines with competing deadlines. The current bylaws establish a

[49:47] director-led structure, while state law appears to permit some alternative

[49:51] administrative arrangements. Like we also have to talk about a lawyer

[49:57] tonight, our legal engagement. But there's what I want to acknowledge is

[50:01] that we've got kind of four distinct bodies of work. There's the

[50:05] administration of the board which is notices, agendas, aims, packets,

[50:11] correspondence, records, and annual governance. There's the finance

[50:15] administration, invoices, coding, reconciliations, banking controls,

[50:20] payroll support, budget updates, commitments, grants, and audit records.

[50:24] And then there's programs and communication, business directory,

[50:28] website, events, promotions, outreach, surveys, public art, and community

[50:33] partners. And then there's what I'll call a catalytic project delivery,

[50:38] bigger scopes, procurement, consultants, engineering, town coordination,

[50:43] schedules, contract risks, closeout, and measurable results.

[50:48] So when one person was doing all of those things, now maybe a different

[50:53] person was able to execute was would be able to execute all of those and execute

[50:59] all of them well. And I think that's kind of was our previous model.

[51:04] » Um I want to say that that wasn't working. Um, and you know, maybe there's

[51:09] not maybe I'd like to think there's a different model where we've got we break

[51:14] some of those pieces apart and that's a bigger conversation that we have with

[51:19] town staff and the BO. Um

[51:23] » um would a conversation like that be happening

[51:30] » with all of us together in the same room?

[51:32] » I think so. Yeah. >> Okay. And there there's nothing on the

[51:34] agenda for that at the moment. Um there's not I think what we were what we

[51:40] were trying to deal with is an immediate emer you know kind of plug some gaps but

[51:45] this is certainly like what I feel is the highest thing that we need to be

[51:50] focusing on and talking about and it also involves you know my hope is that

[51:55] we have a b work session and we can bring this up and talk about it because

[51:59] I think we have a really great opportunity to kind of shift how things

[52:03] have been being done and move into a more collaborative approach.

[52:09] Um, your thoughts on that either John or Richard?

[52:18] » I agree it's good. >> I agree it's a good opportunity to

[52:24] definitely look at where we are and what changes can be made. Uh,

[52:31] it seemed like there was a lot of disorganization for the last five months

[52:35] that I've been here. And from what I've learned from history, it's gone back

[52:39] further than that. And you're right that it could be run

[52:46] efficiently, that job description, by another person. Um, but that seems like

[52:51] a lot and I'm not sure if that approach is the best approach and I think it is

[52:58] worth the conversation of having uh another general administrative assistant

[53:04] s so to speak sort of thing to and maybe another person. I'm not sure how that

[53:09] those roles or responsibilities would break out, but I think it's definitely

[53:13] worth looking at. But also as a top the top priority item. Yeah.

[53:21] » What what would need to happen for um a breakout discussion like that to be

[53:25] scheduled? >> Well, I mean, I think we could, you

[53:31] know, as far as having a special meeting, at least amongst ourselves, to

[53:35] get consensus on what that looks like. I think we just need to talk about having

[53:39] a special meeting, right? >> Which I think was probably in order no

[53:43] matter what. you know, um we've got a couple of members who for various

[53:48] reasons, all legitimate reasons, haven't been able to be at the last several

[53:52] meetings. And um with K3 resignation, I think this is an

[53:59] opportunity to kind of talk about the different models and then the risks and

[54:04] benefits of each model, right? Mhm. >> So, I I I definitely would love to, you

[54:09] know, propose sometime in this meeting, if not right now, that we figure out a

[54:13] time where we can have a a special meeting. Um, and it doesn't necessarily

[54:18] need to be in the evening. You know, if that doesn't work for people, it could

[54:21] be in the morning. Um, I I don't I know this is a volunteer position. I'm I'm

[54:26] not trying to make uh people come to more meetings than they need to, but I

[54:31] think by, you know, putting in some work and getting on the same page and an

[54:36] agreement and an alignment amongst ourselves and then with the BO uh and

[54:41] town staff, we really have a great opportunity.

[54:48] » I would like to comment if I may. >> Yes.

[54:50] » Ron, go ahead. I uh when the DDA started for the first

[54:55] seven years uh we had meetings in the morning every other week, two meetings a

[55:00] month and it really worked well. They were short, they were at breakfast and

[55:06] they were almost unanimously attended. So I really feel that we need to try to

[55:16] have a schedule. there's so much to be done and it 12 meetings a year uh is

[55:23] just not enough. I feel that's uh my experience was that when we got started

[55:30] we all volunteered. We didn't have an executive director because we had no

[55:33] money. It took 15 years to get money and uh I don't think that we can afford to

[55:40] waste the money and one way to do it is to be a little bit more attentive to

[55:45] what we are doing. Thank you. >> Thanks. Thanks, Ron. Yeah, I mean that's

[55:52] another valid point is that maybe twice a month meetings where the meetings are

[55:57] a little shorter, they're a little more focused and um

[56:02] I I don't know, John, do you have any do you see any thoughts with that or do you

[56:07] have thoughts about that? >> I do. This is my last meeting with you

[56:10] all so I'm going to share yeah >> some of my just what I think. Um,

[56:15] I would be reluctant to have you guys as volunteers take on project management.

[56:20] That is really significant. And I think for the reasons that you said, um,

[56:23] you're a volunteer board. You you all run businesses or are involved in

[56:27] business in town and your time is not your time is not free. You know, you're

[56:32] you're very well valued by the community doing this work. And I think that

[56:37] there's a lot of challenges with how things are happening now. And it could

[56:40] be streamlined. as an example of something that doesn't affect you but

[56:43] does affect staff is this setup is three to four hours to put this together and

[56:48] break it down and it's necessary when you're when you're taking a really big

[56:51] action but you're not it might be possible to shrink the room down like

[56:54] you said and have more of a work session kind of vibe and those are easier to run

[56:57] and manage anyway from a working perspective and I think that'd be really

[57:01] good in my perspective I think the biggest problem is that Kate kind of

[57:05] existed in a void I think it's hard for volunteer staff to manage a professional

[57:10] employee And I think it's a position that has to

[57:13] be able to work really well under general supervision and have really

[57:16] clear priorities and workflows and all those kinds of things. I think that it's

[57:21] kind of a wicked problem because I think it's it's you know you're all working

[57:24] she's trying to do things and I think from her perspective sometimes it was

[57:28] difficult to to prioritize where things were going and I think that that's

[57:32] something that could be addressed through the system too. I do think an

[57:36] executive director type role, somebody who can, you know, the admin pieces here

[57:39] are not significant. It's putting the packet together, communicating well with

[57:43] folks, making sure that somebody who can write. Um, you know, Kate, one of the

[57:48] things that she was asked to do was to be a bookkeeper. And I think we all know

[57:51] that that job is something, you know, it's not it's not always the easiest for

[57:54] everyone. So, I think having that skill set, you know, having either an

[57:57] accountant or once we have a treasurer again at the town staff, that's a lot

[58:00] easier to manage. But, I think that was a challenge. And so I think for me what

[58:04] it really boils down to is how all this work happens and how it's coordinated.

[58:08] I'll give you an example. The ADA access to the bridge that was going on two

[58:12] years ago. Um Kate was tasked with that project, but really it's on town land

[58:16] and she has no authority to speak on behalf of the town. Same thing with the

[58:19] sign project. She just doesn't have that authority. And so she's trying to work

[58:23] through systems in with people that already have like established workloads

[58:27] and that there's just not this capacity to say, "Hey, let's go figure this

[58:30] project out together." And so I'm not trying to make excuses for anything

[58:34] here. I think that um execution in this role is the most critical thing. You

[58:39] needed somebody who can manage projects and who can manage workloads and do all

[58:42] those things. You know, also when Kate when I started, Kate was only part-time.

[58:45] And so making that a full-time position, I think is helpful. But I think when you

[58:49] guys think about what this position is, and I think um to Chair Dart's point,

[58:53] the key is is that you need somebody who can execute. And that means two things.

[58:57] You need somebody who's got that kind of mindset. You need to make sure that this

[59:00] board is giving clear and distinct direction that is very clear what their

[59:04] pri priorities and goals are and that they're aligned to the plan of

[59:07] development which I think is something that could be improved upon a little bit

[59:11] and that we're just following process. I think that's the biggest thing is

[59:14] process first and then just respecting all y'all's time. You know, you're here

[59:18] right now when you could be I mean you don't have to watch football but you

[59:21] could be watching football or something like that or eating s'mores or whatever

[59:24] it is that you want to do. And so I just think maximizing your time and making

[59:28] sure that in your volunteer capacity you're giving her good direct or this

[59:32] new person good direction to execute whether that's one person or two people.

[59:35] I think what I would prioritize is making sure you have some kind of

[59:38] bookkeeping function that's really effective and um and good and then you

[59:43] have either if it's one person or two you have like some kind of an admin

[59:47] person but I really think I think that role could be put together as long as

[59:51] it's structured in the hierarchy right and I think one thing that could help

[59:54] that we have talked about is maybe that person's a town employee I think that

[59:58] would that would put that person under the town manager's authority which has

[1:00:02] its own challenges but um for instance Cass

[1:00:05] interfaces with SAB in a very similar way to how Kate does, but she reports

[1:00:09] through the town structure, which gives her access to our resources and

[1:00:13] different things that they need. So, that's just my thoughts. I think having

[1:00:16] this conversation is a really good idea, though. And figuring out what works

[1:00:18] best, what's the most agile, I think, is really the key here. And making sure

[1:00:22] that that person isn't like, you know, locked outside of a door that they need

[1:00:26] to be inside would be helpful, too.

[1:00:31] » Thanks, Jonathan.

[1:00:35] Yeah, I think you know that's the right the risks of one person is that it's

[1:00:41] somewhat I don't want to say it's rare but um it's a higher level

[1:00:46] um it's a lot of skills that you the four kind of distinct bodies of work

[1:00:50] which is the board administration the finance administration all of the

[1:00:55] programs and communication and I mean to your point maybe it's not the project

[1:01:00] management but um there's still uh you know what I'll call the town town

[1:01:07] coordination piece right um and and communication on that part so um you

[1:01:14] know a high single person dependency if that person um can't you know for

[1:01:21] whatever reason has a medical issue or um you know has to go away again then

[1:01:27] that's a big risk whereas you know maybe Maybe there's a hybrid

[1:01:33] model where I I I personally think that some type of hybrid where it is the a

[1:01:39] townman what I'll call higher level project

[1:01:44] manager. Um, and then the the DDA has more of a

[1:01:50] kind of the board administration piece and business communication is kind

[1:01:55] of what the the person that's dealing with the day-to-day administrative

[1:02:01] burden of the DDA does. Um, as personally what I think would be

[1:02:06] helpful, but I I also think this is a c a conversation we need to kind of

[1:02:11] continue after. We could talk about this forever tonight. So, I want to put a put

[1:02:14] a pin in it and come back to it later. Maybe it's a a work session, right? I

[1:02:19] mean, as John brought up, it takes a lot of time to do this. Sitting down and,

[1:02:23] you know, patronizing a local business and having coffee there or whatever um

[1:02:29] and having a meeting and supporting the businesses, I think would be a valuable

[1:02:33] way to to get a work session done. Okay. Well, um I think back to the next

[1:02:42] action item, which is the UMB signing sheet. So, basically the um the

[1:02:49] conversation that I had with the bank was that they are not at all interested

[1:02:54] in managing any type of access. And we we basically tell them who is removed in

[1:03:00] a in a motion. You know, I move to remove Kate. I move to remove Steve

[1:03:05] Roundry. Okay. I move to add or I move to move Ron Mitchell I move to add like

[1:03:09] that's all the bank wants and then if that I think there's another

[1:03:13] conversation where we need to talk amongst ourselves are we is that

[1:03:17] something that anyone was aware of are we all comfortable with that you know

[1:03:20] what type of other checks and balances do we want in place um so that you know

[1:03:27] one person doesn't end up um you know doing doing some damage on behalf of the

[1:03:33] DDA So, I I was able to confirm, you know, both checking accounts are at

[1:03:40] UNMB. We've got a money market ending in um ending in the numbers 89. That's a

[1:03:47] 10-digit account with currently with 1,395,760.

[1:03:55] And then there's a checking account, the last two digits in 62 with $358,92454.

[1:04:05] So there's a total bank balance of 1.754,68460.

[1:04:14] and um that doesn't account for what financial commitments are kind of

[1:04:19] factored into this budget, previous approved budget and any upcoming budget.

[1:04:26] So, um to try to make the proposed banking changes as simple as they need

[1:04:30] to be, um I move to remove Kate Massingale as a signer on the

[1:04:39] account. I I wonder if the best thing to do is to

[1:04:43] remove the three people that maybe I'll do it that way. Like that's the best way

[1:04:48] to do. Okay. So, I motion to rem I move to remove Steve Roundtree,

[1:04:54] Kate Massingale, and Ron Mitchell as signers on the MB bank account.

[1:05:00] » I second. >> I second.

[1:05:02] » Okay. Let the record show that um John Thompson seconded first, but Ron, you

[1:05:08] can be the first vote on that. Yes.

[1:05:13] » Is yes. And Meg. >> Yes.

[1:05:17] » And Richard. >> Yes.

[1:05:18] » And I'm Andrew Dart. And I say yes. And John Thompson.

[1:05:22] » Yes. >> Yes. Okay. And then I

[1:05:27] authorize or I would I would move to authorize

[1:05:33] John Thompson the treasurer, Richard Brandon, the vice chair, and

[1:05:38] Andrew Dur, the chair, as signers on the account.

[1:05:43] » I second that. >> And I will call the role. Richard,

[1:05:50] » yes. >> And John,

[1:05:52] » yes. I'm Andrew Durart and I say yes. And Meg Fox.

[1:05:57] » Yes. >> And Ron Mitchell.

[1:06:00] » Yes. >> I heard a yes. It was faint, but I heard

[1:06:04] it. >> Okay, Ron, you got a little quiet, but

[1:06:08] okay. So, for right now, that's all we need to do with respect to UMB and

[1:06:15] dealing with the signing authority. Now there is another factor kind of a part

[1:06:21] of this John Kaine that we need to talk through which is so town staff currently

[1:06:26] has the NDA's laptop and you are to my knowledge working on being able to get

[1:06:32] us access to that so we can work on online banking.

[1:06:38] » Yeah, I don't know. You're going to need to reset up the two-factor

[1:06:41] authentication through UNMB. Okay. But you'll have it as soon as they remove

[1:06:45] the town like the town network.

[1:06:49] » So maybe the easiest thing honestly for us to do since we need to do the

[1:06:52] signature cards anyway is that for us to deal with the signatures the three of us

[1:06:57] in person need to go down at the same time and do this. So I don't know if you

[1:07:03] guys know when a time, you know, rather sooner than later would be where we

[1:07:08] could shoot down to the bank and deal with the removing. And then at that same

[1:07:12] time, I could also probably deal with a re we could reddo the online banking

[1:07:17] down there at the bank and kind of take it so that we're not waiting for town to

[1:07:23] to do that because I think anything we could, you know, if we were there in

[1:07:27] person and we updated this, we could get back into online banking down there, I

[1:07:32] believe. Um,

[1:07:37] so just not sure if you know off the top of

[1:07:40] your head your schedule. >> I'm available Monday through Thursday.

[1:07:45] » Okay. >> Is when I'm in town primarily.

[1:07:49] » What works for me is first thing in the morning, like be there at 9

[1:07:53] » and that way I can open the store a little late and not have to leave in the

[1:07:57] middle of the day. >> I can work around

[1:07:58] » any day of the week is fine for me. I can do that in the mornings.

[1:08:06] » I don't know about tomorrow. >> Oh, we can't. I got

[1:08:10] » uh I know. >> Yeah, I was thinking I I could do that

[1:08:14] first thing Monday if we wanted to do it first thing Monday the 14th.

[1:08:17] » Monday. >> I'm down Monday at 9:00 am.

[1:08:21] » Tomorrow came a little too quick. >> Thank you. Thank you.

[1:08:29] » So, Can I add just a little bit to this? It's something that you were what you

[1:08:34] were talking about before and I never um I totally agree with what Ron said

[1:08:39] earlier about maybe having meetings twice a month and I think that's one

[1:08:44] part that we've had a high turnover with board members but I think due to the

[1:08:50] lack of involvement I think it's like when I was in college and one semester I

[1:08:55] made all my classes on Tuesday Thursday but then I realized if I missed either

[1:08:58] one of those days I hadn't been to school in a week and I flunked out that

[1:09:03] semester just because of my lack of >> I think it would be a really good idea.

[1:09:07] I think we should do a work meeting and try to plan that tonight. We'll have to

[1:09:12] get the approval of the people that aren't here. But I mean, just to throw

[1:09:15] something out there at least to have us all meet to get past this

[1:09:21] kind of >> Yeah.

[1:09:22] » big lump that we're swallowing. >> Yeah.

[1:09:25] » I'm happy also to be more involved in this. I, you know, showing up one month

[1:09:30] once a month and just kind of commenting on what's going on. I'm more than happy

[1:09:33] to be hands-on with something like you're saying, getting the medics

[1:09:38] together or, you know, give give different people different jobs and it

[1:09:43] gets them more involved. I think that might help keep the members more.

[1:09:47] » Yeah, I I agree. Um, I mean, I I think having a work

[1:09:52] session, you know, in on the times between, you

[1:09:57] know, may if it's we're talking maybe not every week or every other

[1:10:02] week, just a lunch or a, you know, because I honestly I'm in town most of

[1:10:06] the time. Um, and especially, you know, that Monday through Thursday, 9:00 am

[1:10:13] till 2 pm. I mean, I'm generally around working in my office and it's super easy

[1:10:17] to, you know, go out and meet for for coffee or for for lunch and have a work

[1:10:22] session. Um, I don't know if there's days or times that work better. I mean,

[1:10:27] I think collectively if the the four of us or five of us with Ron on the phone

[1:10:32] said, you know what, yeah, you know, Tuesdays or Thursdays or whatever the

[1:10:35] days are, Wednesday, I don't know, Meg, what what is kind of what's your

[1:10:38] schedule? >> Um, I could do mornings uh or most

[1:10:44] afternoons other than Thursdays. >> Okay. Um, so Thursday's not good for

[1:10:51] you. So, um, and I know Mondays are kind of can

[1:10:56] always be a Monday. So, it looks like maybe Tuesdays are Yeah,

[1:11:00] » this is not I'm I'm just noting this is not really the agenda item that we're

[1:11:04] on. And this conversation wasn't noticed, right?

[1:11:06] » And you're talking about further meetings of this board that are

[1:11:09] official. >> Yeah,

[1:11:10] » I might stick a pin in this and bring it back for another conversation. And you

[1:11:14] can also um >> I just think it might be better from a

[1:11:17] transparency perspective. >> That's that's fair. Totally totally get

[1:11:19] it. Um, >> thank you, John.

[1:11:20] » Yeah, thank you, John. I think it's yeah this is uh because there's so much to go

[1:11:26] over it's sometimes it's hard not to dive into it right so okay well back to

[1:11:32] the real agenda tonight um so we dealt with the signing

[1:11:39] and then the next is going to be um I think that was all of the action items

[1:11:44] and now we're on the discussion item which the I guess I'm going to let Cass

[1:11:49] I'll stop talking Cass do you want want to introduce the pilot commercial

[1:11:53] composting program grant match. >> Yeah, definitely.

[1:11:56] » Thank you. >> Um, hi everyone. My name is Cass. I'm

[1:12:00] the sustainability coordinator for the town. Um, thank you for letting me bring

[1:12:05] this to you tonight. Uh, so I have been preparing an application for um the

[1:12:11] circular economy fund, which is a grant that is run by Boulder County each year.

[1:12:17] And so the grant application that I've been preparing is an eight-month pilot

[1:12:23] program um for commercial composting. So that's for Netherland uh restaurants or

[1:12:29] food establishments and organizations. I include organizations just um because of

[1:12:34] the food pantry and their their um possible participation in this. Um so

[1:12:39] this is something that has come up before with the board of trustees with

[1:12:43] the zero waste subcommittee. This is actually born out of the zero waste

[1:12:46] subcommittee which is a subcommittee of the sustainability advisory board. Um

[1:12:51] and so we've been working on this kind of in the background for a bit and I

[1:12:55] have done a lot of uh work to contact uh business owners who might be interested

[1:13:03] in participating in this um program. But really this comes about now because we

[1:13:11] have an in vessel composting unit um at the transfer station that you might know

[1:13:15] about if you've been up there. Um and that in vessel unit can take up to 600

[1:13:21] lb of food waste per day. And it creates compost in about 21 days and then

[1:13:28] there's a 30-day curing period. But it's been pretty regularly creating compost

[1:13:33] and they haven't had many issues for the last few months. Um, and this has been

[1:13:37] around for about a year now. Um, so this unit is really great. It's working

[1:13:44] great. Um, and we just want to take advantage of the fact that restaurants

[1:13:48] create most of the food waste um, in the town. And it would be um, a lot of

[1:13:56] contribution to the vessel compared to, you know, individual households

[1:14:01] collecting com collecting food waste for compost. Um and so with that, this uh

[1:14:08] AIM has a lot of information um project descriptions um such that I will include

[1:14:15] in the grant application and I'm happy to answer any questions on that. Um but

[1:14:19] really the reason I'm bringing it to you um is because we are hoping uh to ask

[1:14:25] for a match um for this project. So, the grant itself does not require a match,

[1:14:33] but they do um encourage matching funds. They also uh only have $50,000 each year

[1:14:41] to give out, which is not that much. Um if you have five projects each asking

[1:14:45] for $10,000, that's only five that you can fund. And so, they usually choose

[1:14:50] one larger project, one that's, you know, between 15 to $20,000 to fund. Um,

[1:14:57] if you look at the bottom of the AIM, I have a table that kind of outlines some

[1:15:03] of the materials. Um, the table has since changed slightly. Uh, just in

[1:15:08] terms of we're not going to do stickers anymore. We're going to do stencils cuz

[1:15:12] we can get spray paint for free. Um, and then the buckets that we're going to use

[1:15:17] are actually need to have a screw lid, so they're going to be slightly more

[1:15:21] expensive. Um, so this budget has changed a bit. Um, but the ask for you

[1:15:28] all is still um a $4,000 match or up to a $4,000 match. Um, and that again

[1:15:36] depending on the total project expenses would be between a 15 to 20% um match

[1:15:42] for this uh for the overall um expenses for this pro project. Um

[1:15:49] so with that I just want to say um the businesses that I've talked to that um

[1:15:56] are very interested in participating um are Net General uh the food pantry and

[1:16:03] the Caribou Room. And then I'm also talking with Mountain People's Co-op and

[1:16:07] Buucy Brews. And we're not excluding anyone else. I just haven't really been

[1:16:11] able to get in touch with like other um business owners. Um, I've tried going by

[1:16:16] and emailing and that sort of thing, but you know, people are very busy,

[1:16:19] especially in the summer. Um, we also can't take all of the businesses right

[1:16:23] away. That's why it's a pilot program because it can only accept 600 pounds of

[1:16:28] food, and I don't know how much food waste each restaurant is creating. So, a

[1:16:32] lot. Exactly. So we want to start smaller um with like three to four

[1:16:39] restaurants, serve food establishments um and then kind of go from there. So um

[1:16:46] after the pilot program, we would try and institute some kind of subscription

[1:16:50] model where um businesses could pay money to have us collect their food

[1:16:56] waste um or have a contractor collect their food waste and bring it up to the

[1:16:59] transfer station. Um however that you know financial component has been worked

[1:17:05] out. Um yet we want to make sure that it's cheaper than you know paying for

[1:17:10] trash uh for for these businesses. We don't want to create like we don't want

[1:17:15] to create more of a financial strain on them. Um so we want to make it easier in

[1:17:19] that sense. Um but that's why this is a pilot. So after the pilot it would not

[1:17:24] uh necessarily keep going unless we worked out some kind of model there. Um,

[1:17:31] yeah. So, I will stop now and just see if there's any questions, discussion.

[1:17:39] » Um, so you I think I heard you say, "Oh, yeah, go ahead, Ron."

[1:17:45] » Um, okay. Yeah, I want to start by saying I have two composting machines

[1:17:50] that have been resting on my property now for 11 years that belong to the

[1:17:54] county that I hope you could uh take a look at these and incorporate them into

[1:17:59] your program. Second thing I like to say is that I think if rather than hiring a

[1:18:04] contractor, if you just paid the gas for the restaurants to uh uh take their uh

[1:18:11] food waste, uh they would gladly do it. I would be willing to work with you on

[1:18:16] that with the restaurants that I own. Uh because that would save them on their

[1:18:20] trash bill and a reimbursement for their gas to take it there. And I think that'd

[1:18:24] be the quickest and simplest way to do it. Uh I did this exact thing several

[1:18:30] years ago. Uh we uh uh raised five pigs with the garbage from about six

[1:18:36] restaurants for one year. And I did all the leg work myself. It was just too

[1:18:42] much for me, but it was a lot of fun. And then we had a great big pig roast uh

[1:18:46] at the end and also we butchered the pigs and and parcled it out. The meat

[1:18:51] from uh that kind of thing cannot be sold but everybody got a share of that

[1:18:55] to have at their own home parties. So those are my two contributions to this

[1:19:00] discussion.

[1:19:03] » Thanks Ron.

[1:19:08] Um,

[1:19:11] so it sounds from what you were saying, there's no set grant amount at this

[1:19:17] point. >> Um, we have an estimate of how much

[1:19:21] we're asking for. >> And how how much was that? Is that's the

[1:19:24] 23 at the bottom? >> Uh, yes. So, it's a little bit less than

[1:19:27] that now. It's about um we're so we're saying the total project budget is

[1:19:32] 20,000 if we provide um incind funds of my time and then also um matching funds.

[1:19:40] Okay. >> Um we would be asking for about 13,000

[1:19:44] or about $14,000. Um and if you don't provide the match

[1:19:49] then it would be about $18,000.

[1:19:55] uh what would become of the eventual compost? So, right now they're offering

[1:20:01] it for free to the community and I believe the uh community gardens that

[1:20:07] are run by the food pantry are utilizing some of that. We'd want to make sure

[1:20:11] like that um that is being facilitated. Um but they don't actually test the

[1:20:17] compost so they can't sell it for anything right now. That would involve

[1:20:21] another conversation with the county. Um, but yeah, it's it's being taken. Um,

[1:20:26] and when I go by sometimes there isn't any because it's all been taken, so I

[1:20:30] think it's pretty popular. >> Is that the pile at the transfer

[1:20:33] station? >> Yes. Yeah.

[1:20:34] » Okay. I saw another pile of compost um near the wastewater plant. Is that

[1:20:39] » we we bring back compost from A1 Organics. that's also free, but it's a

[1:20:43] different It's kind of funny that we have two programs, but what we do is we

[1:20:46] haul our own bioolids down there to to A1 and then we bring back that compost

[1:20:50] as well. So, it's just another source. >> Yeah. Cool. Love it.

[1:20:54] » But also free, >> but that's not something that we

[1:20:56] necessarily offer to the community just at any time. Um, but it is there's

[1:21:02] potential for that as well.

[1:21:07] » Um, yeah, I think so. I

[1:21:13] I've had some conversations with um some of the business owners, restaurant

[1:21:18] owners on First Street as well. And I know we've talked about like um a

[1:21:23] sanitation district and you know knowing that you like there's overflowing

[1:21:30] dumpsters and I know we're just talking about compost right now but I I would

[1:21:33] like to you know support this with the hope that there's a better way to deal

[1:21:39] with all of the trash throughout town trash and recycling you know within the

[1:21:43] district because you know at various times you'll see someone blocked the

[1:21:48] container Or there's a dumpster by Catmandeue that's overflowing and

[1:21:54] there's trash everywhere. Or there's the one by beauty. Same thing, you know, or

[1:21:58] covered wagon and it's just like, okay, there's there's got to be a better way.

[1:22:02] Um, and in talking with the business owners, like, you know, everyone's just

[1:22:07] kind of used to doing what they're doing. And at night when it's snowing

[1:22:11] and you've got, you know, one person closing or maybe there's two people, but

[1:22:16] what it's if it's one person, you know, it's like, well, you got to walk, you

[1:22:20] know, now 700 yards over there. So, I think being able to do something where

[1:22:24] you're we're starting like a system of picking things up, you know, and maybe

[1:22:28] it's a daily I don't know exactly. I know I'm kind of like talking bigger now

[1:22:33] about the whole sanitation thing beyond just compost. But if it's like trash,

[1:22:37] compost, and recycling where we're figuring out a way to pick that up from

[1:22:41] the businesses and make it so that we're not asking someone to walk, you know, in

[1:22:47] dangerous conditions or bad weather, I think people would be all for this. So,

[1:22:54] you know, I think that's I guess my some of the kind of nitty-g gritties is with

[1:22:58] like who owns and titles ensures the actual trailer itself.

[1:23:04] » Um, I believe it would be the town. >> That's correct. Okay. And town town

[1:23:11] truck would pull the said trailer. >> So, we're um going to hire a contractor

[1:23:15] if we go through with this grant because um but they they are required to have

[1:23:19] insurance. That's part of like um being a hauler in Boulder County, being a

[1:23:22] licensed hauler is having insurance and paying the fee being to be licensed.

[1:23:27] » Um and that's only because I've tried uh or I've talked with park the parks

[1:23:32] department who did um a composting program back in during COVID, I was

[1:23:37] told. Yeah. And um they said that they were picking up from each individual

[1:23:40] business and it was a nightmare. um they she used much other language as well

[1:23:48] about the situation and it sounded like it was really awful for them. Um and so

[1:23:53] I am hoping that a hauler who is used to um hauling trash, not our park staff who

[1:23:59] have a lot of other things going on um would you know be able to handle this

[1:24:04] better. Also, if the restaurants are having to bring their buckets to one

[1:24:07] central location rather than trying to figure out logistics of how do we get it

[1:24:11] from the back of house from each of these restaurants, um it might

[1:24:14] streamline it a bit more. This is just the program that I came up with after

[1:24:19] having a lot of conversations with business owners on how why they stopped

[1:24:22] composting and like what worked and what hasn't.

[1:24:25] » Yeah, I'd love to look into the county thing because I have like a dumpster

[1:24:28] hauler and multiple dumpsters and trucks that haul. So, I would need to get I

[1:24:33] need to probably get my if there's an endorsement from Boulder County that I

[1:24:36] need um I need to work on that because I'm not familiar with that, but I am

[1:24:41] familiar with, you know, rolloffs and picking up and moving dumpsters and the

[1:24:46] trucks and all the places to take them. Um

[1:24:50] so, would love to would love to learn more about this and support this. Um any

[1:24:55] I guess any other questions for guests? >> No, I just love composting. I'm really

[1:25:01] excited about this. >> Yeah. So, I think what I would need then

[1:25:06] um is just a letter of support um signed by Andrew indicating that the NDDDA um

[1:25:12] if you all do um support this uh indicating that you would be willing to

[1:25:18] provide matching funds of up to $4,000. And that's really just to cover the cost

[1:25:22] of the trailer. Um so if the trailer is less then it would be less.

[1:25:27] » I could draft something and send it to you if you want. And then you could do

[1:25:31] » I mean I think do we do because I know we're talking about budgeting and we

[1:25:34] this isn't necessarily in the budget yet so we'd have to defer it but we could at

[1:25:37] least get on the same page about a letter tonight. So, I guess would the,

[1:25:41] you know, if I were to make a motion to um have the DDA support the letter that

[1:25:48] John Kaine would draft for uh the um pilot commercial composting program of

[1:25:58] up to and not to exceed $4,000. Would I get a second? Is that that motion sound

[1:26:04] correct? I'd go I'd let you go further, Andrew,

[1:26:07] and just move to appropriate 4,000. >> Okay. So, the I have a motion to

[1:26:14] appropriate 4,000 for the trailer. Um I know there's some budgeting things that

[1:26:22] we need to talk about, I guess. John, what are your thoughts on the way

[1:26:28] » because I I'm not exactly sure >> the guideline.

[1:26:31] » Well, Ron, I think there's a guideline. That's I I understand. Um I just as far

[1:26:37] as like where those funds would come out of right now, if it's the 2026 budget or

[1:26:43] the 2027 budget, I'm not sure what we're talking about.

[1:26:46] » The the grant wouldn't be awarded until like Yeah, we wouldn't be able to use

[1:26:50] the funds until March and it probably wouldn't be awarded till December or

[1:26:54] January. >> I think we just are talking about a

[1:26:57] letter at this point because really that's all we can do because we don't

[1:27:00] have a budget that's approved by the BO yet. Yeah, we could structure it. I

[1:27:04] guess Cass, tell me what you think about this. We could structure it to say the

[1:27:07] DEDA would like to support with X amount in our like so the language would say we

[1:27:14] want to support this project at this amount in our 2027 budget

[1:27:19] » and then that's not making a promise. It's just saying that's what we're

[1:27:22] intending to do. Yeah. >> Is that

[1:27:24] » I think that works. I have something drafted um that I can change the

[1:27:28] language to match that. >> Okay. Do you want to do you want to just

[1:27:32] work on like get it to where you feel comfortable with and we can figure that

[1:27:35] out for >> Yeah. And I I'll send it to you to

[1:27:37] review before we send it over to Andrew. >> And I think if I basically I make a

[1:27:43] motion that we're in support of the um $4,000

[1:27:47] we're in the support of $4,000 to the compost program at this meeting and

[1:27:52] signing a letter to that effect for the 2027 budget.

[1:27:56] » Yeah, >> I second that.

[1:27:59] » Okay. Um, so we have a motion to support 4,000

[1:28:04] with $4,000 the pilot commercial composting program in the 2027 budget.

[1:28:11] And um, I had a second. So Meg, your vote.

[1:28:15] » Heck yes. >> Okay, Meg is yes. I'm Andrew Durton.

[1:28:18] Yes. >> John Thompson, yes.

[1:28:21] » Right. Richard, >> yes.

[1:28:23] » And Ron, I think you voted yes. Do you want to vote again?

[1:28:28] » No, I don't want to vote twice. just wants in the G.

[1:28:30] » Okay. Yes. Okay. Got it. Thank you.

[1:28:34] » Thank you. >> And great.

[1:28:38] » Yeah. >> Okay.

[1:28:41] Um, next

[1:28:44] we've got a, you know, I realized I might have

[1:28:48] forgotten to call for public comment on discussion items. I don't know if um, I

[1:28:56] should do that now. I just wanted to acknowledge that I might have forgot to

[1:28:59] do that. >> Maybe just give people an opportunity if

[1:29:02] they want to >> raise or if there's any anyone online

[1:29:05] that wants to comment on this or or anything else.

[1:29:18] » Are we still um going to hear Kate's resignation letter also or

[1:29:22] » I mean I kind of read it. I mean do you want to did I read it all in its

[1:29:25] entirety? No, just the top part. >> Okay, I can read the whole letter.

[1:29:32] Um,

[1:29:49] okay. Um, I'm going to read the letter from Kate that we received. So, dear

[1:29:54] NDDA board members, please accept this as formal notification that I'm

[1:29:58] resigning from my position as executive director of the NDDA. My last day with

[1:30:03] the organization will be Monday, August 31st, 2026.

[1:30:07] Then in bold reflection and next steps. Serving my community with the NDA has

[1:30:13] been a privilege. I am proud of the work we did to better situate the

[1:30:17] organization. I am ready to move forward and use my

[1:30:20] skills in a new way in the community. and embark on a new adventure. I have

[1:30:26] submitted my application for appointment to the board of trustees and must resign

[1:30:31] so that there is no conflict of interest and in transition support bold. I will

[1:30:37] work closely with the town leadership before I leave. I am fully committed to

[1:30:42] squaring away all open tasks and projects. I want to ensure a smooth

[1:30:47] handover. Thank you for your work and time during my tenure as director. I

[1:30:52] appreciate your service. I look forward to continuing to serve our community in

[1:30:56] this next chapter. Best, Kate.

[1:31:02] Was the Kate's resignation in full? Um,

[1:31:08] okay. Seeing no other public comment, um we've got the next information item

[1:31:20] uh or I'm sorry, discussion item is a legal services transition and engagement

[1:31:26] of possibly Bare Peak Law. Um, so there is an attorney named Nick Larson who has

[1:31:36] a firm called Bear Peak Law, but he has sent a letter of um his bio. So I'm

[1:31:43] going to Sorry guys, I have a big packet that I'm trying to get

[1:31:48] get this to. Um, so we're kind of discussing whether

[1:31:52] the NDDA should engage outside council to advise the board and review important

[1:31:57] legal, governance, financial, contractual, and project documents. If

[1:32:02] the board concludes that the proposed engagement is ready for approval, this

[1:32:06] discussion item may proceed to possible action. So the background, the NDDA is

[1:32:12] working through an administrative and financial transition while continuing

[1:32:17] projects that may require legal review. Outside counsel can help the board

[1:32:22] identify legal risk, confirm statutory and procedural requirements, and review

[1:32:28] the documents before the NDDDA signs, approves, or relies upon them. Nicholas

[1:32:34] Larson submitted an NDDA specific engagement letter proposing Bear Peak

[1:32:39] Law PLLC as primary counsel with Paul C. Benadeti serving as co-consel.

[1:32:46] Both attorneys are expected to discuss their experience, proposed roles,

[1:32:50] availability, and approach with the board. Potential areas for outside

[1:32:55] council review, board governance, bylaws, statutory compliance, open

[1:33:02] meetings, public records, and meeting procedures,

[1:33:06] intergovernmental agreements, development agreements, contracts,

[1:33:10] procurement documents, and other commitments.

[1:33:13] Tax increment financing, financial documents, banking authorities, real

[1:33:18] property, infrastructure, parking, streetscapes, and public improvement

[1:33:22] matters. Implementation of the plan of development, project closeout, document

[1:33:27] retention, file transfer, and coordination with town staff or other

[1:33:32] council. That is the background of tonight's um

[1:33:39] aim. And so the proposed engagement terms engagement letter from Nick

[1:33:45] proposes $500 an hour as primary counsel and Paul C. Benadetti as co- counsel. Um

[1:33:55] there they would each be build at 500 per hour in tenth of an hour increments

[1:33:59] through consolidated monthly services. The proposed scope excludes bond

[1:34:04] counsel, disclosure counsel, special tax counsel, and litigation unless

[1:34:08] separately agreed. The engagement letter should control if this memo and the

[1:34:13] letter differ. Um the discussion questions, does the

[1:34:18] proposed scope cover the documents and matters the NDA expects outside council

[1:34:23] to review? Are the proposed roles of Nicholas Larson and Paul Benedetti

[1:34:28] clear? Um,

[1:34:32] see here, sorry.

[1:34:37] Um, then

[1:34:42] does the board want a written spending cap, prior approval threshold or cost

[1:34:46] control direction? Is the board prepared to act at this meeting or should it give

[1:34:51] direction and return the engagement for later action?

[1:34:55] So, possible action after discussion and public comment, the board may approve

[1:34:59] the engagement, approve it with stated conditions, direct revisions, or defer

[1:35:04] action. And there's a suggested motion, I think. Um, so that's all kind of on

[1:35:11] the paper, but what's important, I know Ron probably has the longest experience

[1:35:16] with Paul Benadetti. I've met and talked with Paul a few times. I've talked with

[1:35:22] Nick, I think once or twice. um some of the reasons in fact I'm just texting him

[1:35:28] because I know they both these guys wanted to have the opportunity to talk

[1:35:32] and answer any questions but I think what you know if the DDA is is continues

[1:35:39] to exist which I hope it does I certainly believe that there have been

[1:35:43] many times where I've you know had a conversation with town staff and heard

[1:35:47] something like well that's really a question for the DDA attorney so I don't

[1:35:52] I don't in my mind. The question isn't do we need does the DDA need an

[1:35:58] attorney? Um I believe there's lots of reasons some of which we've dealt with

[1:36:02] recently regarding some advice on contracts and wayfinding and then

[1:36:07] questions about governance. Um I think the question is who who you know why

[1:36:14] Nick and Paul um if if we are going to have an attorney. I talked to the town

[1:36:19] attorney recently tonight and I asked her what her opinion was and you know

[1:36:24] she said she really didn't have any background. Um she had another uh

[1:36:32] another attorney um that you know she was going to kick a name. In fact, it

[1:36:37] just came in. I haven't had a chance to do anything other than look at that.

[1:36:41] Jennifer Manson sent me the name of someone that if I John am I able to

[1:36:46] forward something to the entire board with open records law or how do I how

[1:36:51] can I do that or do I need to send everybody the bio individually?

[1:36:57] » Um you can do that. I it's a good practice if you do that you want to put

[1:37:03] we usually typically would say do not reply all.

[1:37:05] » Do not reply all >> because you don't want to have any kind

[1:37:07] of threaded conversation just between you and them. I don't know if I know or

[1:37:11] have ever sent like a you know the the email to the entire board because I

[1:37:18] don't have access you know it's like Kate would do it and she would send it

[1:37:22] to a email address where it would go to the entire

[1:37:25] » there's a distribution an NDDDA distribution that sends it to that list

[1:37:29] and I could share that address with you. It's I think it's just NDDDACO.org

[1:37:34] but I will double check. >> Okay. um because I'm happy to share this

[1:37:38] other bio with um with everyone just because I I I haven't had a chance to

[1:37:44] look at it. Um so just know that this isn't you know there's other there's

[1:37:50] other people out there now Paul Benadeti is is an older gentleman. Um Ron are you

[1:37:56] can you hear me? Yes, I can. Clearly, >> can you can you give us kind of I you

[1:38:02] probably have more experience and knowledge of Paul and his you know his

[1:38:07] forte and things that he's worked on over the years and what he kind of some

[1:38:14] of the things that he can bring to Nick. Can you share with the board your

[1:38:17] experience? >> Sure. Um I really um admire Paul

[1:38:24] Benedetta. He's been a wonderful attorney. uh he was instrumental in uh

[1:38:29] trying to get the DDA law established. Uh it kind of got hacked up politically

[1:38:36] from what the um people who were uh profering it uh wanted. Uh so that left

[1:38:43] some gaps between state law and how the uh DDA should function. So, he's been a

[1:38:50] master at getting DDA and town boards to work together. Uh, I think he's in his

[1:38:58] late 80s and he's taking on this other law firm to replace him and as long as

[1:39:05] he stays reasonably with the thing, I think this is probably the uh type of

[1:39:13] representation we should continue to have. Uh there were a couple of things

[1:39:17] there that bothered me in that uh it uh a contract with them and their letter of

[1:39:23] engagement would not include litigation, which would mean we'd have to have a

[1:39:28] problem that we might work through and then be faced with litigation. We never

[1:39:33] have, but there have been several DDAs that have been in quite a bit of

[1:39:38] litigation. There's only 13 DDAs left out of 33 that

[1:39:43] started. uh and the reason is they were too successful. So uh the uh when they

[1:39:51] ended why the amount of money that they had was needed desperately by the uh

[1:39:57] entities who forego it with the tax incre incremental financing. I think we

[1:40:02] only have seven or eight years left in our life as a DDA and we still can do

[1:40:08] some projects with it. Uh I'm a little concerned that the fee has gone up from

[1:40:13] 300 or maybe was 350 to 500, but everything's gone up. Uh I don't I would

[1:40:22] prefer to stay with Paul Benedetti rather than having someone else even

[1:40:26] though he's taking a secondary row because he will be advising the younger

[1:40:32] attorney and breaking him into the knowing the ropes of how DDA should

[1:40:38] function. So I think at this point my only caution

[1:40:42] is that uh the limited amount their scope is a little bit more limited than

[1:40:48] I would like to see it based on the proposal and I didn't it went by quite

[1:40:53] fast but I don't think there's anybody that could do a better job. That's the

[1:40:58] bottom line. >> Okay. um that and primarily Ron was I

[1:41:06] think talking about Paul and I think Nick you know one of the things that in

[1:41:11] my conversation you know brief conversations that I've had with Nick is

[1:41:16] that he has a lot of experience in kind of development and projects and how

[1:41:25] public and private partnerships can work and strategies to um

[1:41:32] you know I mean in my opinion there's a lot of work to do in Netherland and I

[1:41:37] don't exactly necessarily have the you know know exactly how it works with town

[1:41:43] and public and private partnerships in the DDA but I know that's a probably a

[1:41:47] perfect fit for getting some really sound legal counsel and strategies for

[1:41:52] how to do things. So, I've asked Nick and Paul to be able to jump on and

[1:41:57] answer if there's specific questions. And I think bringing up at least Ron,

[1:42:01] your question about um you know, the litigation, why why are we excluding

[1:42:07] litigation is is valuable. Um you know, the the

[1:42:12] rates, I don't know if there's any room there, you know, for if there's a

[1:42:15] certain um exceeding number of hours like we get we get a

[1:42:21] break there. Um, I get it if it's just a few hours a year, which, you know, I I

[1:42:26] wouldn't expect to try and beat somebody up on, you know, four hours a year, but

[1:42:31] I think that would be um my question is, uh, you know, why why have we excluded

[1:42:40] litigation? And maybe he's got there's a great reason for that. Um,

[1:42:46] » Richard or >> Well, I think the reason is simple. Um,

[1:42:49] I don't think either one of these attorneys are litigators,

[1:42:53] » right? That that and that could be that, >> Magg.

[1:42:57] » Yeah. So, just for clarity, that means we don't currently have an attorney.

[1:43:02] » Well, we Paul Benadetti has been our attorney for the many years. He has

[1:43:08] attempted to get a re-engagement letter signed for the last, I think, 18 months

[1:43:14] and been sending it to our former executive director and it never came to

[1:43:18] us and was not resigned. >> So, he's not been working with us for 18

[1:43:25] months. >> He Well, when we pick up the phone and

[1:43:28] say, "Hey, we we need your help on this." He has been there.

[1:43:31] » Oh, okay. Um, and he, you know, offered to help various things, but he made it

[1:43:36] clear like, hey, I've been waiting for you guys to tell me what's going on.

[1:43:41] » So, I think, you know, tonight we we owe it at least to make a decision of, you

[1:43:46] know, um, what's going on or you some some followup there. And there's Nick.

[1:43:52] Hey, Nick. Joining us. >> Hey, everyone. How are you?

[1:43:56] » Hi there. Um, we were still going around.

[1:43:59] I we can we can hear you fine. Um we were still just going around the room to

[1:44:03] a couple more board members. Um myself and Ron and Meg have talked, but John

[1:44:09] and Richard, I wanted to give you guys a chance to talk before we give the any

[1:44:13] questions to Nick. >> Uh I generally Yeah, I totally support

[1:44:18] outside council kind of helping us through these

[1:44:23] stages. I certainly don't know enough about the feasibility and financials of

[1:44:27] larger developments. um at at at a higher level and

[1:44:31] would love to learn from that experience to help help us understand

[1:44:38] the size of these projects. Um and I think their advice would be invaluable.

[1:44:44] » Um I was curious about uh the approval

[1:44:48] threshold or the spending cap. I'm not imagine there should be something like

[1:44:53] that, but I have no idea what that would be. I don't know. Jonathan, you might

[1:44:57] know like with the town finance policy, is there something set up like spending

[1:45:01] caps and uh anything like that that we need to follow as locally?

[1:45:07] It's uh in uh it's a good question. We do have a purchase policy. We have an a

[1:45:13] procurement policy that's within that purchase policy. You are a quasi

[1:45:18] governmental entity, which means that you have statutory authority outside of

[1:45:23] the town. So, you're appointed by the town, but you're not really the town.

[1:45:27] » Um, I think it's a best practice to follow procurement policy in a case like

[1:45:31] this and to do those kinds of things. It's good for transparency. It's good

[1:45:34] for all of that, >> but I think um that's a decision of this

[1:45:39] board about how you'd want to proceed with that. We could if you want to take

[1:45:42] the time to do it like I could share the policy um with chair dart or something

[1:45:47] to that effect and we could do it that way like through a procurement but um it

[1:45:51] would just be the time required to do it is really the trade-off there.

[1:45:55] » Okay,

[1:45:58] good good questions. >> Well, I'm all for it. Especially if he's

[1:46:03] been working with us all this time anyway. I kind of assume we were using

[1:46:06] Musl's lawyer.

[1:46:09] » Yeah. But yeah, definitely >> I do think that that is a con that's an

[1:46:14] extenduating factor here that there's this existing previous

[1:46:17] » there's a relationship. Yeah. Um, so Nick, I think one thing that would be

[1:46:22] helpful for the board to hear, we've talked about, I guess, a couple of

[1:46:26] things in discussion, which is one maybe can you speak to in your um engagement

[1:46:31] letter the proposed scope excluded um you know various councils, bond

[1:46:38] council, disclosure council, special tax council, and litigation unless

[1:46:43] separately agreed. Are those things that you put as exclusions because you would

[1:46:47] say, you know what, those aren't my those aren't my specialties and I I

[1:46:51] really would refer you to someone else or is that you would try and you know,

[1:46:55] we would look at separate agreements for those.

[1:47:00] » Um, as much as I would love to be a one-stop shop, um, that is a full breath

[1:47:05] of subject matter expertise, right? Um so setting aside litigation for um for a

[1:47:12] second, the other expertise that you just laid out, bond counsel,

[1:47:16] underwriting council, tax council in the in the uh in the realm of of DDAs

[1:47:24] and bond finance and and you know raising tax increment finance, those

[1:47:29] council would really think they would all come in in like one specific

[1:47:32] circumstance and that would be if the authority decided that they wanted to

[1:47:38] pledge future tax increment to support a bond issuance so you can basically make

[1:47:44] dollars available today to fund future infrastructure. And the way that that

[1:47:49] bond process works is you typically have an investment banker. So it's typically

[1:47:54] DA Davidson or it's Piper Sandler who's sort of the maestro of the operation. Um

[1:47:59] and they're leading the charge and there's a whole list of vendors that

[1:48:02] support that bond issuance. So there's kind of a a local mafia in Colorado of

[1:48:07] like the usual suspects that appear on those settlement statements. So you

[1:48:11] typically have bond counsel, you have underwriter counsel, disclosure counsel,

[1:48:16] you might have PIFF councils. They're very specific niches. Um and you would

[1:48:21] go to those firms that specialize and do nothing but like that very finite um

[1:48:28] service if that makes sense. So that's >> if we went down that road, I would have

[1:48:33] yeah >> other council doing that.

[1:48:35] » Yeah, you named everything I guess, but you took the litigation out. So maybe

[1:48:38] that question, what about litigation, right? Is that something that you just

[1:48:42] feel like isn't a specialty as well? >> Yeah, I mean, you know, in full

[1:48:47] disclosure, so I used to be a federal prosecutor uh before I transitioned into

[1:48:52] real estate. I was I was an Army JAG officer and I did um um like criminal

[1:48:57] prosecutions um yeah in the federal government but

[1:49:02] that was sort of a different life ago. I I don't have any experience doing civil

[1:49:05] litigation. I have a good track record in most of my real estate transactions.

[1:49:09] The, you know, the cheese doesn't slide off the cracker uh too often. But in the

[1:49:14] in the rare event that you would have a civil litigation matter or an employment

[1:49:18] law litigation matter, yeah, I would have other council come in and and

[1:49:22] advise on those again on those very specific questions.

[1:49:26] » Got it. Okay. Um, and then you know I think one other

[1:49:32] you had we talked a bit briefly yesterday and you kind of I wonder if

[1:49:36] you'd be able to give the rest of the board you know some examples of you know

[1:49:42] how you've been able to work with other you know towns and jurisdictions and not

[1:49:48] necessarily disclosing anything you can't disclose and just you know types

[1:49:52] of um situations where you know seeing kind of where where Netherland is at,

[1:49:58] what um and you know where Netherland potentially could be going, how you

[1:50:03] might be able to help help with that. >> Sure. Um

[1:50:10] so I suppose I wear two hats. Um I, you know, as I shared with with Andrew

[1:50:15] yesterday, um you know, my main job, so to speak, like during the day, I'm I'm a

[1:50:21] transaction real estate lawyer. I was with Brownstein High at Farber Shrek as

[1:50:24] a shareholder for the last uh almost seven years and then recently went out

[1:50:28] on my own have you know most of those clients that I um represented was at

[1:50:34] Brownstein I I continue to represent them now. So these range from private

[1:50:38] equity firms you know very large public sort of name brand homebuilders uh very

[1:50:43] large master plan developers that we set up these master plan communities around

[1:50:48] the country. Uh, I'm I'm also a developer. Um, I ventured into

[1:50:54] development because I had a pretty hefty case of imposttor syndrome. You know,

[1:50:58] here I am as a quote unquote dirt lawyer uh representing these big public REITs

[1:51:03] uh and venture funds doing u big master plan communities. I'm drafting these

[1:51:07] contracts and realizing that some of these finer points about like cloers,

[1:51:11] you know, conditional letter of map provisions and like the fine nuances of

[1:51:16] um some of the land use provisions, I was like, man, I don't know if I really

[1:51:19] know this. Uh, I certainly don't want to represent that to the client, but I I

[1:51:23] feel like I need to walk the walk of a developer and experience that deal

[1:51:28] stress to like truly understand and appreciate

[1:51:32] what goes through the client's mind so that I can be like of better value as an

[1:51:37] adviser. Uh and so that was you know five or six years ago and we got into

[1:51:44] industrial started doing like you know pad vertical developments and then

[1:51:48] quickly got into horizontal because you kind of you know in the word of Samzel

[1:51:52] you control your destiny when you own the land. Uh and then that got me into

[1:51:56] the world of municipal bond finance. Um and through that through that

[1:52:02] transformation I've had this just wonderful

[1:52:07] five to six years of of like first chair experience working with and against

[1:52:12] municipalities. So these are you know states, counties, cities uh and

[1:52:17] political subdivisions of the state including you know title 32 special

[1:52:20] districts to DDAs. And I think the thing I came away from most is you know

[1:52:26] democracy is best expressed on the local level and it is messy and people come to

[1:52:31] boards like all of you. I mean you were doing this really out of the goodness of

[1:52:35] your heart because you care about Netherland. Um and you bring a diverse

[1:52:39] array of experiences and perspectives but a lot of the times like this is very

[1:52:44] specialized stuff that you may not know a lot about and you're giving it your

[1:52:49] best shot. Um, and I find that the best way to advise boards or work with boards

[1:52:58] when I'm a developer is to take complex concepts and distill it into plain

[1:53:04] speak. I feel like a lot of experts I I don't know if it's by design or

[1:53:09] otherwise, but kind of stay up high in these like complex notions. And a lot of

[1:53:13] this stuff does kind of boil down to, you know, dare I say common sense. So,

[1:53:19] as sort of a a roundabout way of answering your question, um that I think

[1:53:24] my time as a developer has helped me translate

[1:53:29] um very bespoke development terms into plain speak.

[1:53:38] » No, thank you. That um I think that helps.

[1:53:43] I appreciate your explanation. I don't know if um any of the other board has

[1:53:47] any clarifying questions or follow-up questions.

[1:53:54] No. Okay.

[1:53:58] Um I think you know there was a Ron noted he's on the phone call Nick he's

[1:54:04] not in this room but he noted that the rate previous rate had gone up but he

[1:54:10] also noted you know everything's gone up in the last few years. Um is there a

[1:54:15] situation where you know and we haven't as a board discussed kind of like a a

[1:54:20] ceiling or a cap um and you know knowing that in the last

[1:54:28] um you know two years that I my to my knowledge and I guess recently I think

[1:54:35] I' I've talked to Paul and yourself you know a short amount on um for maybe a

[1:54:41] total of an hour and a you know, combined with Kate uh about

[1:54:46] various things. So, >> I don't know if we know historically if

[1:54:50] we can share, you know, what Paul um or you know, both you and Paul in the last

[1:54:56] year. I think we're talking, you know, it's been under five hours total. Um

[1:55:02] » it's it's somewhat dimminimous. Yes, >> it's Yeah, it's it's small. So, we're

[1:55:06] not we're not talking about, you know, you spending hours a week uh advising.

[1:55:12] You know, hopefully we're just trying to still get our feet under us. But I think

[1:55:16] » right >> for me it's important to have a

[1:55:19] relationship and have counsel that we can call if something comes up. Um, and

[1:55:24] I think for for right now, um, you know, I just want to kind of look at this

[1:55:31] engagement letter and just see, you know, if for whatever reason the board

[1:55:36] later decided, what is your per uh, do you have provision for termination? Is

[1:55:41] there like do we have the ability to terminate at any time? Not that we

[1:55:47] would. I'm just wondering. >> Yes. Yeah. The answer is yes. I mean, I

[1:55:49] I work at your uh at your pleasure, right? And so at any time you can say,

[1:55:54] you know what, vendor attorney, we uh no longer need your services. And then

[1:55:59] there's certain ethical obligations that trigger, you know, from the state uh bar

[1:56:03] where I have to return all client files, um all emails. There's yeah, it's it's a

[1:56:10] pretty quick exit should you ever want to

[1:56:14] exercise that. And it's a unilateral decision. I mean, it is the client's

[1:56:19] decision. >> Yeah. Okay.

[1:56:22] Um, any other questions for Nick or Paul?

[1:56:30] Well, um, I mean, this is our last action item and I'd entertain

[1:56:38] a motion. Um,

[1:56:42] so, in fact, I'm going to move it. I I move to engage Bear Peak Law PLLC as

[1:56:48] outside counsel to the NDDDA with Nicholas J. Larson as primary counsel

[1:56:53] and Paul C. Benadetti as co-consel under the September 9th, 2026 engagement

[1:56:59] letter at the rates and on the terms stated in that letter and to authorize

[1:57:04] the chair to execute the engagement letter on behalf of the NDDA.

[1:57:08] » I second the motion. >> Okay, I'll call the role. Richard,

[1:57:13] » yes. John,

[1:57:15] » yes. >> And I'm Andrew and I say yes. And Meg,

[1:57:20] » yes. >> And Ron,

[1:57:22] » yes. >> Okay, the motion's unanimous.

[1:57:26] Thank you, Nick, for making the time to jump jump on and we'll get this signed

[1:57:31] and um engagement letter back to you. >> Okay. Well, thank you all. It's such a a

[1:57:36] pleasure and um an honor and I look forward to working with you. I mean, I'm

[1:57:40] a Boulder County resident and I grew up here, uh, you know, on the east side of

[1:57:44] of the of the Flat Irons, but I I grew up here as a kid. I grew up skiing at

[1:57:48] Eldora. Um, in fact, my law firm, Bare Peak Law, is I don't know how many of

[1:57:52] you are familiar with South Boulder, but the um the second highest um flat iron

[1:57:58] is is Bare Peak, and I grew up at the base of it. So, that was the name of my

[1:58:01] law firm. You can almost see it from Barker, but not quite.

[1:58:04] » Nice. Awesome. >> So, it's a real pleasure, but I look

[1:58:08] forward to this. Thank you. >> Thank you very much.

[1:58:10] » Thank you everyone. >> Yeah, appreciate it.

[1:58:15] » Okay. Uh well, I don't I kind of we're we're

[1:58:19] close to the end here. Home stretch. Um do you guys want to take a two-minute

[1:58:23] bathroom break? Okay, we're going to take a bathroom break. Thank you.

[1:59:03] Oops.

[2:02:43] It's good for working my knees. knees though.

[2:02:45] » Yeah. >> Yeah. I sit in that stupid stool and I

[2:02:48] just can't bend my knees enough for my new I got surgery on both of them.

[2:02:53] Slowly but surely they're getting there. So, how much how much of a

[2:03:17] How big of a grant are we going to have to give you to keep you? Again, joking.

[2:03:21] These are jokes.

[2:03:28] » It's a great move.

[2:04:36] Okay, it's 8 o'clock. We're gonna call the meeting back to order.

[2:04:42] John, do I need to turn on any microphones over there?

[2:04:45] Okay. Um, so we're moving I guess before was

[2:04:52] there any I don't know if I need to call for comment again. Um, any other public

[2:04:56] comment on any of the action items?

[2:05:05] We don't see any hands. So, okay, we're going to move into

[2:05:10] theformational items. Um, the chair report. I mean, I

[2:05:17] think the chair report really is um

[2:05:22] the a lot of the things that we've been

[2:05:26] talking about, right? Um the organizational

[2:05:30] governments. Um we got through our the

[2:05:34] other business. Um, I

[2:05:40] I think that, you know, us reflecting on the the opportunities we have to look at

[2:05:47] our own organization and how we work with um the BO. Incidentally, if nobody

[2:05:54] is aware of it in this on this board, I was I um put my application in and was

[2:05:58] elected to the BO. So, I'd like to, you know, feel like I can be a better

[2:06:04] conduit as a liaison. Not to, you know, not if Chris Larson is, of course, if he

[2:06:10] loves to do it and wants to do it, I'm all for him to continue doing it. But,

[2:06:15] um, I I suspect or my thoughts were that he just kind of stepped in because Tanya

[2:06:20] didn't want to do it. So, um I feel that one of the things that I've seen in my

[2:06:27] time is that there could be a greater integration

[2:06:31] um of the DDA and the BO. And I know there's the question of like, well,

[2:06:36] isn't that just duplicate? Isn't, you know, why do that? Why just have one

[2:06:40] organization? And I think there's, you know, some that's a that's a valid

[2:06:45] question to to answer. But I I do believe that there's actually more funds

[2:06:49] available and there is more energy and more collaboration that can happen with

[2:06:55] having a DDA. Um because I think to like some of the things that Nick brought up,

[2:07:00] there's a lot of different ways that a DDA can work to help unlock funds that

[2:07:05] town wouldn't otherwise be able to get. So, um I think you know really we've got

[2:07:14] um an interim structure that we've got to evaluate over the next coming couple

[2:07:20] of months as we figure out what um you know whether we have a director and what

[2:07:24] the functions are. We've got um stuff that we're working on tonight which is

[2:07:30] the concerns you know the owners the missing facts. I'm not trying to force

[2:07:34] any permanent model decision. Um, within the next 30 days, I think the goal I

[2:07:39] would like to see is that we have like a transition dashboard and I've kind of

[2:07:44] been working on that. I shared some of it with Richard and with John Kaine, but

[2:07:48] I'm happy to share it with the board of like, hey, there's some concrete like we

[2:07:52] need access to systems to verify, for example, the former executive director's

[2:07:57] payroll, like financial housekeeping stuff that that needs to be dealt with.

[2:08:02] um systems inventory and then kind of start building a handbook. Um because if

[2:08:07] there is another if it were to continue like it was and we hire a new ED to my

[2:08:12] knowledge there's not and there hasn't ever been really like a handbook or a

[2:08:16] manual for this is how you do things and I think um that's something that that I

[2:08:20] can help work on creating. Um but then also talking this through amongst

[2:08:25] ourselves and with the B. So, um, I don't want to kind of ramble on

[2:08:30] too long other than it's exciting. There's a lot of work to do. Um, and

[2:08:36] yeah, that's I think the chair report. I'm excited and there's a lot of work to

[2:08:40] do. Um, to sum it up as concisely as I can. And now for the treasure report.

[2:08:47] Um, I don't know, John, if you have anything in particular.

[2:08:52] » Nothing really. I was just going to say to the best of my knowledge, Kate tidied

[2:08:55] up pretty well before she her departure. >> We'll know more after our

[2:09:02] uh we get more direct access to the accounts.

[2:09:05] » So, that'll be good. >> Yep. One day. Okay. Um

[2:09:10] » I have a comment for the treasurer. >> Yes, Ron.

[2:09:14] » Andrew. >> Yes. um the that we have money on a CD

[2:09:18] at UMB and uh you should look into when it matures uh and whether or not

[2:09:26] » I can tell you we do not have a CD anymore. We have a money market.

[2:09:32] We have two accounts at UNMB. There's a money market and there's an operating

[2:09:37] account. And the um money market has

[2:09:45] currently as of this afternoon 1,395,760

[2:09:53] and the checking account has $358,924.554.

[2:10:01] Um, so there's obviously commitments against those, which is why we're trying

[2:10:06] to reconcile what is written on this treasurer report versus what is actually

[2:10:13] um in the showing in the account. So that's some work that we've got to do

[2:10:18] over the next month. Um, but I think a lot of this we can when we have access

[2:10:23] to the laptop and are looking back through kind of the resolutions and the

[2:10:28] funding and working with Mandy, who is the the temporary um accountant that

[2:10:34] we've engaged to help do this, although she hasn't been able to do a lot just

[2:10:37] yet, but that's that's where we're at with kind of the the purse right now.

[2:10:43] » Okay. Thank you. >> Yep.

[2:10:46] Um, okay. Town staff report. Well, everyone, um, this is my last

[2:10:52] meeting with you. Um, I want to appreciate all the work y'all do. You do

[2:10:56] great things. I'm excited to see what the future of this work is. I think

[2:11:00] we've come a long way. And I think one of the things I've been really thinking

[2:11:03] about is how hard is to see the forest of the trees sometimes. But in the two

[2:11:07] years that I've been here, although there's new challenges facing my DDA,

[2:11:10] we've we've overcome a lot of things. um new bylaws, newou for operations,

[2:11:16] thinking through how you work with the board of trustees. I think a lot of that

[2:11:19] work can continue to grow and be stronger. But I just am so honored I've

[2:11:24] been a part of the work that you guys have done. I think it's worth doing.

[2:11:27] You're doing something that's valuable for Netherland. I just appreciate that.

[2:11:30] In terms of town work, we are just about to kick off 2027 budget process. That's

[2:11:36] a big one for us and for you. It's something that we need to get done by

[2:11:39] December 15th. And so there's some work that needs to be dedicated to that

[2:11:43] moving forward. And one of the things that I think we're going to need to make

[2:11:45] sure that you guys have some resources to spend time on just so you can get

[2:11:49] your budget where it needs to be and the town can do that as well. Um other work

[2:11:53] that's happening right now is really focused on Big Springs egress and trying

[2:11:58] to get that to a point where it can come back into the public for a conversation.

[2:12:01] Uh we're relatively close to that which is really good. And then we're also

[2:12:05] working on the SMS project which is the initial part of the crosswalks sidewalk

[2:12:09] work. So it basically puts new crosswalks across the highway at the

[2:12:13] library, the museum and the visitors center. It installs new sidewalk

[2:12:17] essentially from Tungsten Village through to the museum. And then some

[2:12:21] little minor improvements like throughout that that kind of workflow.

[2:12:24] There's another kind of sister project to that called the TIPS project and that

[2:12:28] builds sidewalks and reds first street from the highway to the west side over

[2:12:34] towards the RTD lot. And that project we're just waiting on a couple of things

[2:12:38] to kind of finalize and get that project out to bid. So those projects are coming

[2:12:43] along. Other projects um that are happening. I think the big one for the

[2:12:47] board besides the budget is the strategic plan. That one's been working

[2:12:50] for some time, but they're going to see a relatively close to final version of

[2:12:54] it at their meeting on Tuesday. That does include some work planning for the

[2:12:58] DDA kind of based on the sub area plan, which is your plan of development. That

[2:13:02] is kind of the work, you know, the document that should be guiding your

[2:13:05] work as a DDA. Um, the board at our last meeting was going to look at a letter

[2:13:11] that they had asked for that's going to go out to businesses to ask folks what

[2:13:15] they think of the DDA and how they think the DDA should act and kind of what it

[2:13:18] should be doing. Um, I think that's an important part of the conversation that

[2:13:22] trust or that I'm sorry, um, Chair Dart was alluding to with the BOT, like

[2:13:27] thinking through what the DDA looks like in the future. Um, we're hoping to get

[2:13:32] direction on that letter on Tuesday. It's possible,

[2:13:35] excuse me, they'll need to wait till the first meeting in October for them to be

[2:13:38] able to look at it just because it's a really packed agenda. But, um, that's

[2:13:41] the goal is to get that feedback so that they can start working through that

[2:13:44] process. And I think they want to work with you guys on that, too. One of their

[2:13:47] big goals in the strategic plan is to tighten the coordination between the

[2:13:50] advisory boards and the other boards. So that would be um the DDA, PROSAB, SAB uh

[2:13:57] and planning commission most specifically, although BZA is another

[2:14:01] board that they have and make sure that that's all aligned and working together.

[2:14:05] So everybody's kind of pulling the same wagon there. And I think that's a really

[2:14:07] important thing that would help everybody be more effective in all these

[2:14:10] strategy pieces. So they're working on that. On the town side, we are going

[2:14:15] through a little bit of a administrative makeover. As you know, my position is

[2:14:20] changing. Miranda Fischer, who was the town administrator before me, is going

[2:14:24] to come back in an interim role. She'll be here right when I leave, which is

[2:14:28] I'll be leaving August or October or we're in September, September 24th. So,

[2:14:34] she'll be here on the 25th, and she'll kind of take on an interim role. She's

[2:14:37] allowed to stay in that role for up to nine months. and so she can kind of help

[2:14:41] transition the town and I think it's a really good thing for staff just because

[2:14:44] she knows them. Um they've developed a lot in the last two years. So I think

[2:14:49] it's going to be a learning experience for her and for them. But having

[2:14:52] somebody who knows generally how we do things and kind of what the policy is is

[2:14:56] a really good thing for us right now. Um there's a couple other staff positions

[2:14:59] that are likely to change. We've had some folks retire and we're kind of

[2:15:02] working through some of that. One of the big ones is Rita 6. She was the town

[2:15:06] treasurer. We went through a recruitment to fill her position and we were not

[2:15:09] able to find a suitable candidate that was going to work for the town. So, we

[2:15:13] will be opening that position again. That's something Miranda will do once

[2:15:16] she gets her feet under her to try to get that position filled. In the

[2:15:19] meantime, we're working with a group called Plant Moran, their uh contract

[2:15:23] finance position essentially. And they'll be helping us with the budget

[2:15:27] and kind of some of the highest and best uses for their time. And then our staff

[2:15:31] will be kind of handling some of the day-to-day finance duties as we have.

[2:15:35] And then I think um there's a couple other really cool things happening. We

[2:15:38] have a new community center manager. His name's Armando. If you haven't met him

[2:15:42] yet, he is doing great work over here. He's been auditing systems and trying

[2:15:46] to, you know, um clean out some spaces and keep the work that Don was doing

[2:15:50] going. And they're doing a really good job here. Um kind of doing that work.

[2:15:54] And then across the town, we're just kind of finishing up our summer

[2:15:56] maintenance plan. That includes covert work, especially in Oldtown and up in

[2:16:01] Big Springs and off Navajo and those places just to make sure that they're

[2:16:05] cleared. We are about to do a pilot project on a couple of roads in town,

[2:16:10] some of our steeper roads. It's with a product called Permazy. Um, and what it

[2:16:14] is is an environmentally friendly alternative to salt. A lot of times salt

[2:16:18] has a couple uses in road work. One is to keep ice from forming on roads, but

[2:16:23] also some communities use it in their road mixes and the dirt because it glues

[2:16:27] the dirt together. Netherland doesn't do that, which is great, but our roads fall

[2:16:31] apart every single time they get wet now because of that. And so this Permazy

[2:16:34] product has been used in Europe and a couple other places for years, and it's

[2:16:38] environmentally friendly. It doesn't have the same impacts that salt has on

[2:16:41] the environment. So the board approved a little pilot project to do three miles

[2:16:45] of road out of our 16 approximately 16 milesi of dirt road to see how it

[2:16:49] performs and in theory it only needs to be applied every 10 years and it should

[2:16:53] stabilize our our roads a little bit which will save our budget and make it

[2:16:56] easier for our our road crews to maintain those roads. So that's going to

[2:17:00] be happening very soon. And then I guess the other big thing on summer

[2:17:03] maintenance, we we have undertaken a big job of sewer inspection. So we're

[2:17:07] inspecting a third of our system every year. It's a pretty big system. Um, so

[2:17:12] we did that work this year. We're exercising valves, which is another big

[2:17:15] job for water wastewater where they're just making sure, you know, some of our

[2:17:18] valves are buried under dirt just on some of our older pipes. They go in

[2:17:21] there, make sure everything's working good. Um, doing hydrant maintenance. And

[2:17:24] we're about to start transitioning towards fall activities, which is, you

[2:17:28] know, shop- based maintenance work, getting the plow trucks ready for

[2:17:31] winter. Um, the water wastewater teams kind of transitioning to indoor kind of

[2:17:35] activities that they have, and that is going to be ongoing as we kind of move

[2:17:39] forward. The last thing I want to tell you is uh our parks crew, you know, they

[2:17:44] do a lot of work with the DDA. They do some of the the downtown things and

[2:17:47] that's been going on all summer. Um we have some really good new flower beds

[2:17:52] that they've planted this year. I don't know if you've seen the sunflowers at

[2:17:54] town hall, but they're beautiful. And then the flowers that you guys sponsor

[2:17:57] throughout town have been beautiful this year as well. Um but one of their big

[2:18:00] projects this year that they were just able to complete is what we're calling

[2:18:03] the Rink Link Trail. It may change its name over time, but that's just what

[2:18:07] it's been called. And it basically connects the rink up towards the

[2:18:11] elementary school. So you can kind of like on Caribou up there. They just

[2:18:15] finished it. It's got a little bit of edge work to do and they're kind of

[2:18:18] there's some growing as it grows in. It'll start changing the look of it a

[2:18:22] little bit, but it is a fully ADA accessible trail which is not something

[2:18:26] that we have in Netherland other than the P basically the trail in Chapita

[2:18:30] Park. Um and it's a really big accomplishment for them that they were

[2:18:33] able to do that and it's beautiful. So, if you haven't had a chance to go see

[2:18:36] that, I would highly recommend that you. It's a pretty short walk, but it's a

[2:18:39] beautiful little hike there. Um, and so I just want to give them a little props

[2:18:43] on that. They also just recently had an event and we're going to be looking at

[2:18:48] constructing a green mountain bike space at the rink. Um, there's some trees

[2:18:53] there in the front of the parking area if you're familiar with that area where

[2:18:56] we can build. Uh, Netherland doesn't, while we have a lot of mountain bike

[2:18:59] trails, we don't have any learning areas, especially for kids. And so this

[2:19:02] would be intended to kind of fit that need. So just a really easy place to go

[2:19:06] learn how to um ride a bike off trail and kind of understand, you know, how

[2:19:11] how they work when you're on a trail and those kinds of things. And um we had an

[2:19:15] engagement event where several kids came a couple of weeks ago and they were able

[2:19:19] to kind of give the parks team a lot of ideas about what it could be. So I think

[2:19:23] we're not going to be doing that this summer, but probably in the near future

[2:19:27] that's a project that'll be coming back to the BO for review. So that's kind of

[2:19:32] a general snapshot of what we've been doing. It's been super busy and honestly

[2:19:35] I just am thankful that I've been a part of it and thankful for the work you guys

[2:19:38] are doing and if you have any questions for me I'm happy to answer.

[2:19:44] » Thanks Jonathan. Um, I mean the the nextformational or

[2:19:49] reports we've got accounting transition status which I think if this I'm not

[2:19:54] sure if this is referring to Rita's thing or um if that has to do with kind

[2:19:59] of our the Mandy temporary issue. John, do you know?

[2:20:03] » I think that was what is intended. So there's a couple things we're working

[2:20:06] through. The biggest issue is is that she is not a town employee and she's not

[2:20:10] contracted to the town. So there's some IT considerations we needed to make. So

[2:20:14] the laptop, the DDA laptop, Kate's relationship with the town's a little

[2:20:17] bit different when she was an employee of the DDA. So what we're going to do is

[2:20:22] basically clone the data from the DDA that Kate was using.

[2:20:27] » Put it into an account that doesn't have the same security risks as the other

[2:20:31] account does. And then you guys will have that laptop back. And we put it in

[2:20:35] as a P1 ticket. So you should have that laptop very quickly. I don't know

[2:20:39] exactly when, but very soon. And then that one that can go to Mandy. And I

[2:20:44] think that the big thing as you mentioned is like some little audit

[2:20:47] work, make sure everything's caught up and where it needs to be. Yeah.

[2:20:49] » And then as I mentioned, we have Plantaran is our our accountant right

[2:20:53] now that we're using on the contract basis. So it's possible Mandy finds

[2:20:56] things that we just need to kind of rectify between the two. And so yeah, I

[2:20:59] think there's just a little bit of work making sure that we're taking care of

[2:21:02] our financial business. >> Yeah. Um, just so that I don't know if

[2:21:07] anyone had seen, you know, we had an agreement with um that we reached out to

[2:21:12] Mandy to help basically deal with some of the um banking review prior to Kate

[2:21:19] announcing her resignation just in preparation of our budget, having to

[2:21:23] make sure QuickBooks is in order, all of the payroll accounts and compliance and

[2:21:27] reconciliation and that the commitments and resolutions

[2:21:32] are in order. um since Rita had primarily been the one

[2:21:36] doing that. So um as soon as we get that laptop and it may be even sooner if we

[2:21:41] can get you know physical statements or online access um for Mandy but I think

[2:21:47] that's something that you know Mandy has signed an agreement with the DDA that

[2:21:52] she's not to you know use anything's to be confidential. I realize that doesn't

[2:21:56] help necessarily town's network, but at least there is um documents to solidify

[2:22:03] and codify Mandy's relationship with the DDA as kind of a third party um

[2:22:10] accounting review. Uh she's not a formal legal auditor. I just want to make that

[2:22:14] clear. Um and she's not trying to be a full-time DDA, you know, accountant. um

[2:22:21] but she's just here for a couple of months to help with a transition. So

[2:22:26] that's where we're at with that. So that's the update on the accounting

[2:22:30] transition board of trustees strategic priorities update. Well, um I think you

[2:22:36] know I'm new to the board of trustees, but as as I am working through the next

[2:22:44] um BO meeting, certainly one of the things that I hope to bring is to talk

[2:22:48] about, you know, my view of sitting in and participating as a BO member, what

[2:22:55] components of that strategic plan um are like the core things that the town um is

[2:23:04] focused fusing on. So, I don't necessarily want to get I don't think

[2:23:08] there's anything to do about that tonight. Um I think there is some some

[2:23:14] things I don't know if I've got I had a bullet list of a few, but I want to wait

[2:23:19] till after the upcoming BOT meeting to make sure that I'm aligned with the rest

[2:23:24] of the board before talking about strategic priorities. So, that's the

[2:23:29] update. The update tonight is that there'll be be an update in the near

[2:23:32] future after the next BOT meeting. Um I don't have anything for the

[2:23:38] beautifification report besides what's in the packet. Um same with the event

[2:23:45] support and public art report. Kate, um me, do you have something on public art?

[2:23:50] » Uh not much. Just that we're working really hard on getting net days of art

[2:23:54] up and running. uh if you know anyone or if you and your families would like to

[2:23:59] participate in the scavenger hunt would be awesome to have you sign up now. Um

[2:24:04] and that's the main thing we're working on. I don't have an update on the Marian

[2:24:09] sculpture project, but uh yeah, we're moving along nicely with everything

[2:24:13] else. >> Great.

[2:24:15] Thank you. And I don't have anything beyond what was in the packet for the

[2:24:19] summer concert series report or the wayfinding report. Those are all in the

[2:24:23] packet. Um, and the website report, I don't

[2:24:28] necessarily have anything verbally. Um, John,

[2:24:32] » one really big thing that did happen, we got the the directory is functional now.

[2:24:38] Okay. >> And it's working. So, I think, you know,

[2:24:40] that could always be improved, but that did get done.

[2:24:42] » Great. Um, is there any other business or comment?

[2:24:50] No. Okay. I entertain a motion to adjurnn.

[2:24:54] I second the motion. >> All right. I Yay. Nods all around. Okay.

[2:24:59] Seeing nods. All right. Meeting adjourned.

[2:25:02] » Excellent.

[2:25:25] bring my kids. Yeah, we used to do

Nederland Downtown Development Authority August 9th, 2026

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