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>> I think what we will do is we will
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go ahead and call this meeting to order.
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If Mr. clerk, if you could take
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rollcall, please?
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>> Roll Call: Brooks, here. Cancela,
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here. Denis, here. Goicoechea, here.
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Kieckhefer, here. Parks, here.
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Settelmeyer, Settelmeyer, here.
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Woodhouse, here. Benitez-Thompson,
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here. Frierson, here. Leavitt, here.
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Jauregui, here. Kremer, here.
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Monroe-Moreno, here. Neal, here.
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Spiegel, here. Munk, here. Swank,
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here. Backus, present. Titus, here.
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Wheeler, here. Carlton, here.
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>> Thank you, all very much. I
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believe we have everyone present.. So
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with that I will go ahead and began. The
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first item B will be public comment.
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As publish on the agenda public
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comment may be made by mail, fax or
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calling into the number designated and
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following the sign interactions on the
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agenda. Due to time constraints public
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him and will be limited to two minutes
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per speaker and I will take up to a
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proximally 45 minutes of public comment
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at the beginning of the meetings. And
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an additional opportunity to make
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public comment will be available at the
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end of the meeting. For all those
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first color under public comment.
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>> Color with the last three, 525.
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Please, state and spell your name for
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the record. You are ready. Hello,
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caller with a last three of 525, you
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are ready. I apologize Mme. Chair.That
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was the only color on the line for
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public comment and I'm not hearing
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anything from the line.
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>> Okay. All right. Then I think we
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will go ahead and move forward,
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committee. So, as we move forward,
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since this meeting is being conducted
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virtually our Senate fiscal analyst Mr.
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- - will assist us in conducting
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rollcall votes for each item requiring
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action to make sure the vote is
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recorded correctly. Given the virtual
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environment is difficult to tell who is
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present at the time of the vote.
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Please respond yes or no and when your
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name is called on a vote as it can be
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difficult to distinguish between the
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yeas and nays. So that members I
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believe we can move on to item C on our
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agenda. Did I hear someone join? Okay,
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moving forward. We will go ahead and
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start with item C-one. So I am C-one
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office of the Gov. work program. If we
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would go ahead and bring up the person
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testifying on this item, please?
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>> Can you hear us?
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>> Ms. Brown?
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>> Yes. Good morning.
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>> Good morning.
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>> This is Susan Brown and with me
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today of Michelle White governors staff
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>> Good morning
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>> Good morning.
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>> Thank you Mme. Chair and
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councilmembers for the record this is
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Michelle White governors staff. The
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request before you today transfers
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51,004 and $42 in CARES Actt funds to
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the governor's office to fund to
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positions to provide statewide
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coordination supportive of the states
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effort in preparing sustaining and
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expanding the response to the COVID 19
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pandemic. This is a federally supported
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state managed and locally executed
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effort and outlined in the governor's
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plan. In addition, it will work with
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federal state and local partners to
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identify and coordinate funds that the
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state - - that the benefits the state
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by Nina be placed in the state account.
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>> Okay. Thank you very much Ms.
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White. If you could elaborate on the
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intended responsibilities of these
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positions? And the level of pay? We
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realize the governor's office does get
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their own amount and then they decide
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how they will pay people. We understand
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the process, but we would still like to
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know exactly with the responsibilities
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and pay levels will be as we move
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forward with this?
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>> Sure. All go through the response
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was then kick it over to director Brown
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to talk about the pay. So again there's
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two positions to CARES Act funding,
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temper a positions. And the associated
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operating costs and coordinating the
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state's response to COVID 19 pandemic.
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The first position is for a COVID 19
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statewide response director. This
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person we tasked with work with federal
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state and local partners in coordinated
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COVID 19 contact tracing, testing,
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coordination of resources part about
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rebut robust and ongoing effort and
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expansion of work across the state to
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address the public health crisis. In
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addition to other response efforts they
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will work with all agencies and daily
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communication with specifically with
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the agencies like state HHS, divert
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division of emergency management and
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Nevada national government within the
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agencies at the forefront of leading
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this effort. The second position is the
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COVID 19 administrator. This person
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will be tasked with identifying all
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federal funding related to the pandemic
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and being the liaison from the
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governor's office. Again work with the
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governor's finance office, with
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legislative leadership, and
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legislature, with our agencies and
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federal and local partners to make sure
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that we are utilizing those funds to
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the best ways possible to address the
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crisis both in the immediate and
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long-term.
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>> Okay. And these two positions, Ms.
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White, you have confirmed the cost of
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these will be supported through the
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coronavirus act, correct? I never know
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what acronym to use with this one.
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>> A lot of acronyms. Correct,
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Susan if you want to go into the
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funding?
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>> Thank you. He was Susan Brown for
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the record. Where using the coronavirus
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funds at directly later in these
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possessions will be directly related
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to working to COVID 19 issues will make
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him eligible for payment from this
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account.
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>> All right. Thank you. So committee
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members, any questions from any of the
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committee members at this point on this
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item? Mr. Wheeler.
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>> Thank you Mme. Chair I appreciate
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it. I'm just wondering, realize these
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are COVID 19 funds coming from the
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federal government not going to affect
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our budget so much but no matter where
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the funds come from, they still are tax
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money. Is there anyone who is
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basically, furloughed right now within
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our government we can take and move
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over there and maybe remove some of
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those funds? Obviously, were looking
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from funds anywhere we can get them
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from now. I'm just wondering if we can
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take someone from a different
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department that's currently not
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working, for instance and move them
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into these positions and reduce that
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other position? Thank you for your
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time.
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>> Thank you. Michelle White for the
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record. We have identified someone for
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the position the statewide response
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director who was on loan at the
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beginning of this crisis and has been
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helping to manage the overall effort
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and wanted to assistedto formalize
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Errol and expand that role due to the
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urgent need. But we will certainly
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continue looking for positions that
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are available throughout the state
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government as we explore filling the
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position.
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>> Other questions? Sen. Goicoechea
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>> Thank you Mme. Chair. I'm look at
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these numbers and 51,000 this is just
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going to carry us until June 30 Isom
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and then we looking for another
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appropriation? 51,000 is not a lot of
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money given a new position so, what is
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the timeframe? I'm just assuming we
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are going until June 30.
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>> That is correct. The funds you
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are[inaudible] for the rest of the
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fiscal year annual scene another work
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for him coming forward probably
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[inaudible] positions. For another six
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months.
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>> Thank you for the clarification.
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>> Are there any other questions from
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any other members at the moment?
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>> Mme. Chair this is Sen. Brooks
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>> Yes. Sen.
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>> I will be abstaining from this vote
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because it creates a positions in the
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assembly member's office
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>> Okay. Thank you, Sen. Thank you,
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Sen. Appreciate that. So if there's no
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other questions from any committee
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members come I believe we can go ahead
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and process at this time with this item.
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Hearing or seeing no objections I will
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take a motion to approve this item from
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Sen. Woodhouse and second from Ms.
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Benitez-Thompson. Any questions or
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comments on the motion? Hearing none,
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please call the role. Remember,
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committee members just say yes or no.
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Thank you.
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>> Roll Call Vote: Benitez-Thompson,
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aye. Frierson, aye. Leavitt,, aye.
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Jauregui, aye. Kremer, aye.
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Monroe-Moreno, aye. Neal, aye. Spiegel
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, aye. Munk, aye. Swank, aye.
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Backus, aye. Titus, aye. Wheeler,
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aye. Carlton, aye.
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>> Earlier wei Sen. Brooks who is
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abstaining from the vvote. All indicate
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him as an abstention
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>> Roll Call Vote: Cancela, aye.
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Denis, aye. Goicoechea, aye.
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Kieckhefer, aye. Parks, aye.
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Settelmeyer,, aye. Woodhouse, aye.
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>> The motion passes.
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>> Be much. We will go ahead and moved
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to item, number two, Department of
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Health and Human Services public
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behavioral health communicable diseases
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. I believe this has to do with the
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Ryan White HIV AIDS program that I
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don't believe staff had any questions
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or concerns about this. Did we have
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someone here to testify on this item?
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>> Mme. Chair this is Jeff from
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broadcast productions. I see Julia --
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Please, unmute your microphone.
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>> This is Julia - - can you hear me
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okay?
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>> Yes. We have you now, thanks.
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>> Good morning everybody. For the
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record me my name is Julie p deputy
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ministers for the behavioral health.
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I'm joined remotely by our service
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program manager for HIV program and
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Christina Hardwick who serves as our
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chief financial officer for the
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division. To date we are requesting
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authority for the Ryan White part B
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COVID 19 response grant. It's received
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from the Department of health and human
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services health resources and services
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administration. This noticeable what
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provides one time funding to support
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preventing caring for and responding to
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COVID 19 as outlined in the coronavirus
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eight release and economic security
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act or CARES Act. First it authorize
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the recipient to incur pre-award costs
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to be effective date at the federal
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award dating back January 20, 2020.
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This grant does not cover match or
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maintenance of effort required. The
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Ryan White CARES Act is broken up into
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five different programs or parts. Today
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we are looking at part B. Part B rental
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provides two territories to improve
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health equity for those living with
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HIV on AIDS. Sprint provides medication
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and services to eligible Nevada's
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living with HIV and AIDS. The assistant
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program also known as [inaudible] is
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another program under part B the
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provides approved medication to people
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living with HIV who are either uninsured
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or underinsured. Nevada's formulary is
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geared towards optimum patient care
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medications maintained in a
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coordination with and by the
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recommendation of our medical advisory
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committee. This award will give Ryan
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White HIV AIDS recipients the
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flexibility to meet the evolving needs
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in their respective communities
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including expanding operational hours,
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increase in staffing hours, purchasing
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additional equipment, enhancing
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workforce training and capacity
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development, and providing critical
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services to people with HIV during the
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coronavirus pandemic. Funds will be
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subject to northern Nevada host and
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accessed for community and cultural
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education programs and training.
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[inaudible] because they are est. under
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the Ryan White part B recipient
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who currently provide supportive
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services and have a proven track record
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to provide these services to our HIV
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positive clients. The sub grantees will
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provide direct services such as home
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delivered meals, emergency housing,
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housing assistance and medical
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transportation to HIV positive clients
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and their families. The number of
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clients served are unknown at this time
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due to the evolving nature of COVID 19
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pandemic. As noted, the Ryan White part
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B is looking to utilize Nevadans home
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delivered meals which also allows for
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the purchase and distribution of PPE
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for clients and personnel, housing,
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which allows for the payment of
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claimant's rent, and medical
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transportation for medical and
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supportive services. This funding is
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delivered in watershed County but could
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change as client needs a merge. There's
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no real providers at this time in Ryan
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White part B clients are
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provided washing and often seek care at
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[inaudible]. Park County receives the
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Ryan White part [inaudible] a grant
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serves the entire state including Park
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County. However as much before the
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CARES Act funding for this work program
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will primarily serve Washoe County and
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Clark County will use Ryan White part B.
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We are happy to take any questions
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you may have regarding these funds.
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Thank you.
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>> Thank you very much. I think the
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only question or comment I would have
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is we would look forward to a report
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back in the data you accumulate on how
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these dollars are being spent and the
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folks that are actual being served so
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we can use that in the future. That
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would be the only comment I would have.
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Are there any other comments or
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questions from any committee members at
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this time? Seeing none, don't speak
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up - - with that, - - guess? Sen.
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Denis, I'm sorry.
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>> Just a quick question. She mentioned Clark
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part B but I thought it talked
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about in materials part B being used in
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Washington the roles. Is that correct?
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>> Julie -- for the record. That is
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correct.
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>> Okay. Just want to make sure the
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record was correct for
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>> Thank you, Sen. Any other questions
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or comments from committee members on
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item number two? Seeing or hearing
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none, I would go ahead and accept a
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motion to processitem number two from
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Sen. Woodhouse and a second from Ms.
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Benitez-Thompson. Any discussion on the
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motion?
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>> Mme. Chair, did you want to add
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reporting to that motion as you
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indicated in your comments?
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>> Yes. Please. If everyone is good
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with that, sorry about that. Any
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discussion? If not, we will go ahead
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and ask to call the role, please.
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>> Roll Call Vote: Benitez-Thompson,
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aye. Frierson, aye. Leavitt, aye.
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How to get the, aye. Kremer, aye.
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Monroe-Moreno, aye. Neal, aye.
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Spiegel aye. Munk, aye. Swank, aye.
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Backus,, aye. Titus, aye. Wheeler,
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aye. Carlton, aye. Brooks, aye.
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Cancela aye. Denis, aye. Goicoechea,
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aye. Kieckhefer,, aye. Parks, aye.
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Settelmeyer, aye. Woodhouse, aye.
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>> The motion passes.
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>> Thank you. With that we will go to
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item number three, Department of
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employment training and rehabilitation.
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If we could go ahead and queue up the
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person who will be presenting, please.
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>> Mme. Chair, this is Jeff from
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broadcast productions. I'm not seen
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anyone unmute their microphone or way
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that me.
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>> I'm seen a wave on my top left
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corner of the box. I believe it is - -
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and their staff in their room. There
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we go. Have they been unmuted on muted?
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>> Yes. They have. Please unmute the
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phone at your desk or whatever device
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you are using, please.
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>> Good morning. Proceed.
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>> Okay. Good morning. For the record
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Christopher Sewall Department of
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employment training and rehabilitation.
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Director's office. This morning we have
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on the agenda work program C 75206.
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This work program is to establish
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revenue and expenditure authority for
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federal pandemic unemployment
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compensation, also known as FUC
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in the amount of $5,073,075 and
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pandemic unemployment assistance also
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known as - - in the amount of
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$5,073,075. And pandemic emergency
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unemployment compensation also known as
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EUC in amount of 190,000. These
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funds are for one-time implementation
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costs for federal pandemic
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unemployment compensation unemployment
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systems and pandemic unemployment,
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division grant programs. The total for
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the implementation grant is $5,418,000.
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At our conference room we have our
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director, our administrator and deputy
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administrator for the employment
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security division and our CFO ready to
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answer any questions.
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>> Okay. Thank you very much Mr.
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Sewall and I think as we go forward you
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may need to get a little closer to the
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microphone. It was a little low in
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volume. So with that, I think I
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will go ahead and open up to Ms.
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Benitez-Thompson for the first round of
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questions and we will proceed from
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there. Ms. Benitez-Thompson
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>> Thank you very much Mme. Chair I
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appreciate that. So I was wondering if
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you could - I'm sorry - I'm asking if
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you could spell out for us a little bit
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more about the role that the staff is
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going to have in this process? For
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example, taking claims, adjudicating
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claims, handling appeals. Could you
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talk about a little different specific
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task they are going to be doing?
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>> Thank you. For the record this is
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Kimberly Goddard. administrator for the
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employment security division. We have
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been hired to provide complement for
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pandemic unemployment assistance,
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specifically, to December of this year. For
[29:05]
all lifecycle cases of both types of
[29:11]
claims. So that will include, claim
[29:12]
filing which started this week,
[29:15]
payments and weekly filing. Assistance
[29:17]
on the phone. And adjudication of those
[29:21]
claims. That is their current role.
[29:28]
>> Thank you very much. We note that
[29:29]
you have some existing staff who are
[29:32]
trained and have these jobs. So do you
[29:35]
have an idea, for example when we talk
[29:39]
about adjudication,, are they expected
[29:42]
to handle five percent of that with
[29:46]
traditional staff doing 95 percent of
[29:56]
it? Is it looking to be 50-50? I just
[29:57]
did not know if there was a kind of a
[29:58]
take away we could walk away with, with
[29:59]
an uncertain of how much of the work
[30:00]
they will be doing?
[30:02]
>> This is Kimberly Goddard for the
[30:04]
record again. All the [inaudible] we
[30:11]
have oversight with management from B
[30:14]
for that function.
[30:21]
>> So, I imagine then we can - - we
[30:28]
will know in a couple weeks as we take
[30:29]
a look back we will be able to ask
[30:30]
about the percentage of workload being
[30:31]
done by staff vs. contract staff and we
[30:33]
will know that in coming weeks then, is
[30:34]
that right?
[30:36]
>> Yes. We will.
[30:40]
>> Okay. Great. Then the last question
[30:43]
here, is just, regarding the contractor
[30:50]
,, the call center, can you share with
[30:52]
us documentation, or assurances, that
[30:58]
we received that your department has
[30:59]
received from the federal government
[31:00]
that this - - that everything, this
[31:06]
contract and this manner of using
[31:07]
contract employees at the call center
[31:11]
is allowable?
[31:16]
>> Mme. Chair this is director of
[31:19]
Department of public training and
[31:20]
revalidation. Thank you for the
[31:23]
question assemblywoman. We have worked
[31:25]
in coordination [inaudible]..
[31:36]
>> I'm sorry?
[31:38]
>> You are breaking up. Were only
[31:44]
getting a couple of words I believe.
[31:48]
>> Okay. I try to speak slow again. So
[31:50]
I was thanking the assemblywoman for
[31:59]
her question. And wanted to let the
[32:00]
committee know that we worked closely
[32:01]
with the Atty. Gen.'s office along with
[32:02]
the governor's legal team to work on a
[32:09]
directive to the governor's office to
[32:13]
allow for the waiver of nonmerit staff.
[32:14]
This waiver allows us to use the team
[32:18]
to help assist with adjudication of
[32:24]
claims. We worked with the state of
[32:26]
Indiana, who has an approved waiver,,
[32:31]
or proclamation, from there governor to
[32:32]
allow, and we worked in lockstep with
[32:35]
their legal and our legal to put our
[32:40]
proclamation together. If you have any
[32:41]
further questions about the directive,
[32:42]
we can incorporate conversation with
[32:44]
the Atty. Gen.'s office. He was Ms.
[32:59]
Benitez-Thompson, any follow-up?
[33:02]
>> Yes. I guess, I just the waiver is
[33:12]
ushering you have done that with our
[33:13]
AG's office, and I think that really
[33:14]
answers the state law piece, and I
[33:20]
think the federal government is going
[33:21]
to probably have to look back about how
[33:22]
quick the states went to pivot in
[33:23]
different manners in which we have
[33:24]
pivoted to try to get staff in a place
[33:27]
where we could meet people's needs. I
[33:29]
think the ball is probably more in
[33:32]
they are core to make sure that that
[33:36]
federal piece gets sorted out.
[33:39]
>> Okay. Thank you. Ms. - - just on
[33:50]
and note for myself, we are always very
[33:51]
wary when we subcontract out state
[33:52]
functions to other folks because it is
[33:53]
our job to do what we understand
[33:56]
there's extenuating circumstances here,
[33:57]
but we just want to make sure that this
[34:00]
doesn't open up the door or try to set
[34:08]
a precedent of subcontracting out
[34:09]
these types of jobs. Because we need to
[34:10]
be able to control the folks were
[34:11]
making these decisions over these
[34:12]
people's lives because we've seen in
[34:13]
the last two months how important this
[34:20]
function is to folks survival. So I
[34:21]
just want to make sure I put that on
[34:22]
the record.
[34:33]
>> Mme. Chair, I was just going to say
[34:42]
that the federal government allows for
[34:43]
the continuation of the claims only
[34:44]
through the month of December. So I can
[34:45]
assure you that work will come back in
[34:48]
house after that is - - this money
[34:52]
has run out or authority runs out.
[34:59]
>> Okay. Thank you. We are going to be
[35:00]
very interested to see how the data on
[35:04]
this one also, later on when it is
[35:05]
done. I believe Sen. Brooks had a
[35:07]
question?
[35:08]
>> Yes. Thank you Mme. Chair. I just
[35:10]
want to knowyou said programs the 5.5
[35:16]
$5.4 million on the CARES Act money,
[35:19]
has the agency received approval from
[35:21]
the feds to use this money to grant
[35:25]
funds that way? And if not, do you
[35:28]
anticipate when you will?
[35:32]
>> This is David Schmidt, acting
[35:41]
deputy administrator for the security
[35:43]
division for the record. The
[35:50]
supplemental budget request submitted
[35:51]
to the Department of labor does
[35:53]
identify the contract for the portion
[35:59]
of the application. The piece that will
[36:06]
pay for the call center, there is only
[36:07]
a small piece of that within the
[36:10]
contents of this work program.. The
[36:16]
implementation cost, there some money
[36:17]
set aside in here for training for the
[36:19]
call center. But the other expenses of
[36:24]
the call center will be paid for to the
[36:26]
ongoing reimbursement for the PUA
[36:30]
program. However, because this is the
[36:35]
training component of the call-center
[36:36]
time is included within this grant, we
[36:41]
have not got any questions or pushback
[36:42]
from the Department of labor on using
[36:47]
that call-center for this purpose.
[36:48]
Further, the CARES Act does have a
[36:49]
section that explicitly allows for
[36:57]
relaxation of the use of merit staff
[36:58]
through the end of 2020. So it is,, has
[37:00]
been especially federally authorized.
[37:06]
>> Thank you.
[37:12]
I think that answers it. I'm asking if
[37:16]
you got explicit approval from the
[37:18]
federal government to do the 5.4
[37:19]
million in the way you are proposing to
[37:23]
use it and it sounds like you are
[37:24]
saying, you don't necessarily need that
[37:29]
because it's already stated in the rules
[37:31]
. Is that correct? did I hear you
[37:34]
correctly?
[37:37]
>> David Schmidt again director. That
[37:38]
is our understanding, yes.
[37:40]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[37:41]
>> Mme. Chair I have another question
[37:46]
if possible?
[37:49]
>> Please go ahead senator, follow-up.
[37:51]
>> Can you please discuss the agencies
[37:54]
plan for the personal services category
[37:59]
including overtime? Existing staff,
[38:00]
the numbers and types of additional
[38:04]
positions that you plan to hire and the
[38:07]
timing of that higher?
[38:18]
>> Thank you for the question. This is
[38:19]
good but we got her for the record. We
[38:20]
do have a staffing plan related to
[38:28]
that which is HR-62 which is explicitly
[38:31]
designed to address our own staffing
[38:34]
for the pandemic specifically. We have
[38:40]
submitted position requests to the
[38:41]
governor's finance office to do
[38:44]
additional staffing augmentation, and
[38:46]
that is currently in the process right
[38:50]
now. But as far as for the care sacked
[38:54]
specifically I think we have only asked
[38:56]
for them I want to say, 12 positions
[39:02]
related to this that would ultimately
[39:03]
be absorbed back into UI operations at
[39:07]
the end of December this year. In order
[39:12]
to continue that expected workload that
[39:13]
will go past that date just because of
[39:16]
appeals and overpayments and related
[39:20]
type of workload. Based on her
[39:22]
experience from the great recession.
[39:31]
>> Thank you.
[39:37]
>> Okay. Ms. Neal did you have a
[39:39]
question?
[39:40]
>> Yes. Mme. Chair. So, thank you Mme.
[39:45]
Chair. I just have a quick question.
[39:50]
For deductible income how are you guys
[39:51]
handling that? You guys - - there
[39:53]
was a press release that can out and
[39:54]
said it would take four weeks to get
[39:55]
that all rolled in. How does that fit
[39:57]
into this overall system change with a
[40:04]
deductible income folks who are seeking
[40:08]
unemployment assistance?
[40:10]
>> Thank you for the question.
[40:12]
Kimberly Goddard for the record. The
[40:15]
deductible income component is a piece
[40:18]
regarding program integrity on the
[40:21]
standard unemployment system. We have
[40:25]
been running automated jobs to address
[40:35]
those claims that have a deductible
[40:36]
income component to it. We have held
[40:38]
the first four weeks of the filers
[40:47]
benefits so we can get through that
[40:48]
adjudication process in compliance with
[40:50]
law and regulation. And released
[40:56]
payments post that fourth week. We
[40:57]
realize there may be potentials for
[40:59]
overpayments but that was the decision
[41:00]
made in order to get benefits out to
[41:05]
the constituency as quickly as
[41:06]
possible. And we were weighing the
[41:12]
information of potential severance pay,
[41:17]
or, other pay that was ongoing during
[41:19]
furloughedperiods in order to make that
[41:21]
determination. And that started now two
[41:25]
weeks ago and so we have been releasing
[41:26]
payments for those people with
[41:32]
deductible income issues on their
[41:33]
claims but that issue must be
[41:37]
adjudicated per regulation and we will
[41:38]
continue to adjudicate that while they
[41:40]
are receiving pay.
[41:48]
>> Thanks Mme. Chair.
[41:49]
>> If I may assemblywoman Neal, jumping
[42:00]
or just for a moment. So I heard you
[42:01]
say on this particular case with these
[42:02]
claims you are going to err on the side
[42:03]
of paying people and then after it's
[42:10]
adjudicated deal with it that way. That
[42:11]
is not how you dealt with the original
[42:12]
filers under the current system. Those
[42:13]
people are still waiting and have to go
[42:14]
through the process. Is that correct?
[42:19]
>> Thank you for the question. Kimberly
[42:25]
Goddard. No. I was referring to the
[42:26]
deductible income issue for standard
[42:27]
unemployment. That is what I believe
[42:30]
the assemblywoman was asking about. As
[42:37]
far as current claims the payment
[42:38]
component will be deployed we hope by
[42:39]
this weekend. And the intent is to, as
[42:46]
soon as presumptive eligibility is
[42:47]
determined, we would move to minimum
[42:48]
weekly benefit amounts under the act,
[42:53]
in order to start payment immediately.
[42:56]
As long as we can verify that baseline
[43:04]
eligibility. Then, we would adjudicate
[43:05]
on the back and if there's additional
[43:06]
eligibility to increase the benefit up
[43:07]
to the maximum allowed per state law.
[43:14]
>> Thank you for clarifying that. I
[43:15]
just want to make sure he was clear. Is
[43:20]
my understanding, though there is
[43:21]
approximately 50,000 out there
[43:22]
that have not been dealt with but yet
[43:23]
we're taking on another set of claims.
[43:25]
So can you tell me where those 50,000
[43:31]
are? If you are moving forward and
[43:32]
erring on the side of getting the money
[43:33]
to the families, and truing it up later
[43:36]
how is it we still have 50,000 claims
[43:38]
still out there. I just have to tell
[43:41]
you I people on the phone every day in
[43:52]
tears because they cannot get their
[43:53]
benefits and they don't know what they
[43:54]
are going to do next. So I just want to
[43:55]
understand, about those other 50,000
[43:56]
claims that are out there.
[43:59]
>> Thank you for the question.
[44:00]
Kimberly Goddard for the record. The
[44:03]
reference of 50,000 claims are a group
[44:10]
of claims we continue to work on groups
[44:13]
of claim type issues to see what other
[44:18]
additional automation jobs we can start
[44:23]
building out and running. But the
[44:26]
number of claims left tend to have
[44:32]
multiple issues and become more
[44:33]
complicated as we have going on. And
[44:35]
require full adjudication. So I don't
[44:36]
know that I can specifically say in two
[44:41]
weeks all 50,000 will have an answer
[44:51]
and have a payment. It just has to do
[44:52]
with the nature of the claim types and
[44:53]
the specifics related to the claims.
[44:54]
And we have been instructed on multiple
[44:55]
times by the department of labor that
[44:56]
OIG is looking at our efforts in order
[45:04]
to [inaudible] for integrity. So we're
[45:05]
doing everything we can to keep that in
[45:07]
balance but we continue to address the
[45:10]
buckets of the claims as we are
[45:17]
calling it internally, to try to get
[45:18]
those moved as quickly as possible.
[45:24]
>> Did I hear laughing? So, let's -
[45:31]
- here's the thing. If were going to
[45:37]
err on the side of make it your people
[45:38]
get money so they can survive, I would
[45:40]
hope we would figure out how to err on
[45:41]
the side of those 50,000 folks even
[45:44]
know they are complicated claims. So
[45:46]
that they can get where they do be also.
[45:54]
So we would just go from there. I
[45:56]
believe the speaker had a question?
[46:01]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. I think I want
[46:03]
to to the concern but I want to first
[46:07]
say, we are asking the question and I
[46:10]
the chair mention this earlier, we are
[46:12]
asking questions not out of undo
[46:14]
aggression but for clarity sake. I note
[46:24]
your folks are working and taking these
[46:25]
calls. We are delivering food and take
[46:26]
these calls and emails as well. We are
[46:27]
just trying to make sure we get all the
[46:28]
information. I appreciate, though, that
[46:30]
you are trying to do the claims in an
[46:35]
expedited way it's not going to be
[46:36]
pretty necessarily because you are
[46:37]
trying to get caught up and help these
[46:39]
folks. To the chairs point, is there
[46:43]
any - - I don't know if this is an
[46:47]
opportunity in the right context - -
[46:48]
but is there an effort or structure in
[46:49]
place to make sure as were working
[46:50]
through the claims and in particular
[46:52]
more difficult claims, is there a
[46:55]
structure in place to do it in order so
[46:57]
we are doing the oldest cases first?
[47:03]
And work - - is that something in
[47:05]
place?
[47:08]
>> Thank you, this is Heather - -
[47:14]
for the record.I want to just outline
[47:17]
a couple of different priorities that
[47:20]
the department is working on at the
[47:22]
same time so that everyone has some
[47:33]
context on - - the work we are doing
[47:35]
on and unemployment. So as you are
[47:36]
probably aware, this weekend we went
[47:37]
out what I would call a significant
[47:38]
technological system that has offered
[47:39]
up the ability for 38,000 out of 8:30
[47:42]
AM Nevadans to file claims for the
[47:46]
pandemic unemployment assistance. That
[47:49]
was and continues to be an enormous
[47:50]
technological lift that is one of the
[47:55]
things we're working on. Second to that
[47:56]
is working closely with our call-center
[48:00]
vendors and trying to stand up some
[48:07]
cloud-based call-center and implement
[48:08]
in that. The third technological lift
[48:09]
that we are working on, and is constant
[48:12]
and frequent that is addressing the
[48:13]
backlog of c claims and working on
[48:19]
resolutions. So we had the ability and
[48:21]
continue to run data fixes on a weekly
[48:33]
basis to address all of the income
[48:34]
deductible issues. We are looking at
[48:35]
and working towards resolution for
[48:36]
several other buckets that are within
[48:37]
that 51--70,000 as of last week's
[48:41]
number. We do address each of these
[48:42]
claims in order of their coming winter
[48:44]
came in fi step we are worki looking at
[48:47]
those claims in order of priority that
[48:49]
way.
[48:50]
>> Thank you very much.
[48:51]
>> I believe Sen. Brooks had another
[48:57]
question?
[48:58]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. I just want to
[49:00]
follow-up on my previous question about
[49:03]
the federal approval of the funding for
[49:09]
the implementation and operation of the
[49:10]
three programs that we are discussing.
[49:14]
So lacking explicit approval, how is it
[49:20]
the agency currently funding the
[49:22]
operational cost of those three
[49:25]
programs? Is it through the federal
[49:26]
funding? Because they don't feel the
[49:27]
need the approval, or, is using some
[49:31]
other monies?
[49:33]
>> This is David Schmidt. Currently,
[49:42]
we are awaiting the approval of the
[49:48]
grants that have been submitted. The
[49:50]
Department of Labor, the delay is not a
[49:59]
awaiting for authorization or approval.
[50:00]
It is just that they have a couple of
[50:10]
hundred applications across all these
[50:12]
programs, total across all the states
[50:13]
they're looking through their own
[50:14]
backlog to try to address. As far as
[50:15]
where the funding is coming from in the
[50:16]
meantime, we do still have our
[50:17]
unemployment administration grant. We
[50:18]
do have unemployment administration
[50:20]
grant. We do have the 5.3 million in
[50:21]
CARES Act funny we received so far. We
[50:22]
also haveabove base funding of
[50:29]
approximately $8.3 million for the UI
[50:30]
administration grant as well. So
[50:31]
there's a number of sources of funding
[50:32]
that can be used in the meantime, and
[50:33]
then adjusted as necessary once the
[50:37]
federal revenue for these specific
[50:39]
implementation programs is made
[50:40]
available to Nevada.
[50:48]
>> Thank you.
[50:56]
>> Other questions from other
[50:57]
committee members at this time? I am
[51:03]
pretty sure you discuss this earlier.
[51:07]
I'm not sure if it was really clear as
[51:08]
far as the authority that you have as
[51:14]
far as adjudicating claims. I know
[51:15]
there was guidance earlier this year
[51:17]
that allows the subcontracted entity to
[51:20]
perform different functions, but I am
[51:29]
not sure if they are actually allowed
[51:30]
to do the adjudication under that
[51:31]
guidance. So you had spoke aboutcase
[51:35]
out of Indiana. You talk about our
[51:36]
Atty. Gen. Does the information that
[51:39]
you have substantiate the fact that the
[51:53]
subcontracted entity can actually do
[51:54]
adjudication because it appears that
[51:55]
under the CARES Act they can't actually
[51:56]
adjudicate. So I just want to make sure
[51:57]
we have a very clear and on the record.
[51:59]
>> Mme. Chair Heather - - for the
[52:01]
record. Thank you. Yes, so the team has
[52:05]
worked closely with the state of
[52:09]
Indiana who has a DOL approved waiver
[52:10]
that is exactly the same. As ours. DOL
[52:13]
is aware that we have made this
[52:18]
decision and any other questions about
[52:20]
our directive explicitly we can talk
[52:21]
with the Atty. Gen.'s office about if
[52:23]
you have questions. I am happy to share.
[52:27]
>> I guess to
[52:30]
>> [Multiple speakers]
[52:32]
>> I guess my last question would be
[52:34]
is if one of our constituents went
[52:37]
through this subcontracted entity and
[52:42]
was denied benefits and later found out
[52:43]
that they were wrongfully denied, who
[52:46]
is going to be responsible for that?
[52:47]
The subcontractor or the state?
[52:49]
>> The denial, denied applicant has
[52:55]
the appeal rights, and that will be
[52:59]
worked through the department, and the
[53:06]
department is fully responsible for the
[53:07]
work that's being done under our
[53:13]
contractor.
[53:14]
>> Okay. Good. We just need to make
[53:15]
sure we get this on the record because
[53:16]
you know something is going to happen
[53:17]
later onand we will be able to come
[53:28]
back and say, this was the discussion,
[53:29]
these were the answers and this is how
[53:30]
the process was supposed to be. So
[53:31]
thank you very much I appreciate you
[53:32]
putting that on the record very
[53:33]
clearly. Committee members, any other
[53:34]
questions on item number three? From
[53:35]
anyone? Okay.With that come I believe
[53:42]
we can go ahead and proceed. I would
[53:43]
take a motion to process item number
[53:44]
three from the speaker and a second
[53:46]
from vice chair Woodhouse. Any comments
[53:48]
or questions on the motion? Hearing
[53:54]
none, call the role, please
[53:55]
>> Roll Call Vote: Benitez-Thompson,
[54:03]
aye. Frierson, aye. Leavitt,, aye.
[54:14]
Jauregui, aye. Kremer, aye.
[54:25]
Monroe-Moreno, aye. Neal, aye.
[54:35]
Spiegel, aye. Munk, aye. Swank, aye.
[54:47]
Backus aye. Titus, aye. Wheeler, aye.
[54:59]
Carlton,, aye. Brooks, aye. Cancela,
[55:12]
aye. Denis,, aye. Goicoechea, aye.
[55:23]
Kieckhefer, aye. Parks, aye.
[55:32]
Settelmeyer, aye. Woodhouse, aye.
[55:36]
>> The motion carries.
[55:39]
>> Be much. So I believe that takes us
[55:45]
to item, D, statement of the account.
[55:52]
I'll go to Ms. Jones.
[55:54]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. Item D is a
[56:00]
statement of the account to stabilize
[56:01]
operation of state government. Also
[56:08]
known as a Rainy Day account. The
[56:09]
information by the balance of the
[56:10]
account is found on page 71 of your
[56:11]
packet. At the beginning of the fiscal
[56:13]
year starting fiscal year starting
[56:15]
July 1, 2019 the balance in the fund is
[56:21]
331,000,006 94, eight $33. Two
[56:22]
transfers have been made to increase
[56:25]
the amount in the fund. Went for a
[56:27]
little over $25 million based on our
[56:32]
estimate. [inaudible]. With this
[56:35]
section says is at the end of a fiscal
[56:37]
year if the fund balances over seven
[56:40]
percent of the appropriations for the
[56:48]
next year, 40 percent of that excess
[56:49]
balance is transferred to the Rainy Day
[56:50]
fund. The second transfer is pursuant
[56:54]
to 353.281 B, in the amount of $44.5
[56:58]
million and that is the one percent of
[57:02]
revenue transfer. At the beginning of a
[57:06]
fiscal year the estimated revenue is
[57:08]
projected by the economic form, one
[57:16]
percent of that revenue mount is
[57:17]
transferred over to the Rainy Day fund.
[57:18]
The current balance of the Rainy Day
[57:19]
fund - excuse me - is $401,186,000.. So
[57:23]
that is the amount that would be
[57:27]
discussed under the next action item.
[57:30]
Thank you Mme. Chair. Happy to answer
[57:34]
any questions.
[57:35]
>> Thank you Ms. Jones. Any questions
[57:36]
For Ms. Jones?Seeing none, I believe
[57:49]
we can go to item, E, with that this is
[58:05]
a request for approval of transfer
[58:06]
funds from the account to stabilize
[58:07]
operation of government, the rainy day
[58:08]
fund. Following the different
[58:10]
declarations. I believe we do have a
[58:16]
question for the governor's finance
[58:17]
office, if they are available. Is Ms.
[58:34]
Brown available? I see Ms. Brown but
[58:59]
I cannot hear her.
[59:03]
>> Can you hear me?
[59:09]
>> We have you now. That is great,
[59:10]
thank you.
[59:11]
>> Okay. Sorry. This is a red finance
[59:13]
office.
[59:14]
>> Okay. So I guess the big question
[59:17]
of the day is, we are moving the rainy
[59:23]
day fund.. We understand that would
[59:24]
just go to support the general fund
[59:31]
basically, to take care of their
[59:32]
sponsor but is that we already have on
[59:33]
the books. Can you give us any
[59:36]
indication of what future plans you
[59:38]
might have in addressing the remainder
[59:40]
of the shortfall for this fiscal year?
[59:52]
>> Susan Brown, for the record
[59:53]
government finance office. We are
[59:54]
working through proposals that were put
[59:55]
forth by state agenciesand we will be
[59:56]
coming forward with a plan to IFC. We
[1:00:01]
are also looking at one time monies and
[1:00:09]
other ongoing - - this includes
[1:00:10]
ongoing and one-shot monies. And there
[1:00:14]
are a few other items we are looking at
[1:00:15]
doing some research to make sure those
[1:00:16]
are valid options to use. To help fill
[1:00:23]
the gap
[1:00:24]
>> Okay. Thank you. I know this is a
[1:00:25]
difficult question and every day seems
[1:00:28]
like a week, lately. Maybe, a month for
[1:00:31]
you. Do we have an idea of when we will
[1:00:35]
be getting some of this information and
[1:00:40]
I hope that you will reach out to us
[1:00:41]
and to our staff to help. We would love
[1:00:50]
to be part of this conversation to make
[1:00:51]
sure we are kind of on the same page.
[1:00:52]
So do you have any ideas when you might
[1:00:53]
be receiving some of this?
[1:00:54]
>> Susan Brown for the record. The FY
[1:00:58]
20 numbers come I think at this moment
[1:00:59]
are pretty solid. We have gone through
[1:01:01]
all of that. I have a few questions
[1:01:03]
from agencies on that item more than
[1:01:09]
happy to reach across and talk your
[1:01:10]
staff about all these proposals that we
[1:01:11]
are vetting at this point. We have
[1:01:12]
provided them some information at this
[1:01:13]
point in time so they can also be
[1:01:16]
reviewing proposals that the agencies
[1:01:18]
have made.
[1:01:20]
>> Well, thank you very much. We
[1:01:21]
appreciate that. As I've discussed with
[1:01:23]
a number of members and a phone call
[1:01:33]
with the governor just recently, this
[1:01:34]
is all about communication. We all have
[1:01:35]
to be on the same page moving forward.
[1:01:36]
It's about what's to invest for the
[1:01:37]
state and making sure that Nevadans
[1:01:41]
are taken care of. So we look forward
[1:01:42]
to working with you on this as we move
[1:01:44]
forward.
[1:01:53]
>> Thank you.
[1:01:54]
>> You are welcome. Speaker did you
[1:01:55]
have something? Yes?
[1:01:56]
>> Thank you for your indulgence Mme.
[1:01:57]
Chair. I just want to reiterate that
[1:01:58]
and also reiterate that we rely so
[1:02:00]
incredibly heavily on our fiscal staff
[1:02:01]
and the decisions we make and when we
[1:02:05]
make them are dependent on information
[1:02:09]
they're able to get for us. So it is
[1:02:11]
fair to say that if fiscal staff are
[1:02:19]
reaching out that is us reaching out.
[1:02:20]
They do so at our direction. So I just
[1:02:28]
one - - I know you guys are taking a
[1:02:29]
ton of calls, a lot of them articles
[1:02:30]
about people wanting to satisfy
[1:02:31]
curiosity. And time is short and we
[1:02:33]
realize that, but if our fiscal staff
[1:02:35]
are calling, I just wanted to put it
[1:02:37]
out there that is from us. So hopefully
[1:02:43]
it will help reduce the number of calls
[1:02:49]
back and forth if we are able to make
[1:02:50]
sure they get their questions answered
[1:02:51]
when they call because otherwise they
[1:02:53]
call us and they don't have all the
[1:02:55]
information and then we end up
[1:02:58]
duplicating calls. We don't want to do
[1:03:00]
that to you guys.
[1:03:04]
>> Okay. With that,committee members
[1:03:15]
any other comments from any other
[1:03:16]
members at this time? Mr. Wheeler.
[1:03:21]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. Moving this
[1:03:31]
money over come I understand we are
[1:03:32]
going to have to do it. Were in a
[1:03:33]
problem here I believe but before we
[1:03:34]
can do that I like to see with the cuts
[1:03:36]
and the fiscal moves are going to be.
[1:03:43]
Is it a two to one ratio? We are going
[1:03:44]
to have a problem here with our bond
[1:03:45]
rating of course when we don't have a
[1:03:46]
reserve fund the bond rating changes.
[1:03:55]
If we need to re-bond if we need to a
[1:03:56]
new bond etc. that's got cost us more
[1:03:57]
money. I like to see - - we have CIP
[1:03:58]
programs I like to see us moving money
[1:04:00]
to programs. We could go into furlough
[1:04:01]
programs. There's a lot of things.
[1:04:08]
There's Medicaid. We did not have
[1:04:09]
people in the queue in Medicaid for
[1:04:10]
instance over the last couple months in
[1:04:11]
less it was an emergency. I like to
[1:04:12]
know what those numbers are and save is
[1:04:13]
there maybe we can transfer out of the
[1:04:16]
HHS into the general fund and back out
[1:04:22]
from one account to another. I like to
[1:04:23]
see you where they are. Without a 221
[1:04:25]
count I don't think I can vote to move
[1:04:26]
this money over. As you said Mme. Chair
[1:04:29]
and I agree with you completely, and
[1:04:33]
some communication here and I just have
[1:04:34]
not seen it yet. I know everybody just
[1:04:38]
going crazy. This is a true emergency,
[1:04:39]
but give us some idea other than we are
[1:04:43]
looking at things that I think were
[1:04:44]
going to be okay for FY 20. Ms. Brown
[1:04:49]
said that if I 20's pre-much done but
[1:04:50]
again, as a member of this committee
[1:04:55]
and I think all of us members in this
[1:04:56]
committee should probably know how it
[1:04:58]
is done before we start moving money
[1:04:59]
over. And thank you for letting me talk
[1:05:02]
about this. I appreciate it
[1:05:05]
>> Mr. Wheeler I will address that so
[1:05:12]
you understand how it is done.
[1:05:13]
Unfortunately my career I've had to do
[1:05:14]
this couple times. So I understand
[1:05:15]
there's a lot of uncertainty I felt
[1:05:16]
that uncertainty the first time that I
[1:05:17]
was put in a position to vote for
[1:05:18]
something like this. We actually had to
[1:05:25]
be called into special session to do
[1:05:26]
it. Luckily, now that we could do it
[1:05:27]
this way. Basically what we are doing
[1:05:28]
is,, Mr. Wheeler, is the state is
[1:05:29]
moving its money from its savings
[1:05:34]
account to its checking account to pay
[1:05:35]
the bills. So everything that you voted
[1:05:36]
on and all the budgets that you are
[1:05:37]
involved in during the last just of
[1:05:40]
session, all those decisions that we
[1:05:41]
made in a bipartisan fashion to fund
[1:05:46]
the state is where the money from the
[1:05:47]
rainy day fund will be going to support
[1:05:56]
those issues. Now, knowing full well
[1:05:57]
this amount is not going to be enough
[1:05:58]
to get there, that is the part of the
[1:05:59]
plan that we need to still keep working
[1:06:00]
on. I have been looking at different
[1:06:06]
things for the other members of this
[1:06:07]
committee have been looking at things
[1:06:08]
and so has the governor's office. But I
[1:06:09]
think it is incumbent upon us to be
[1:06:13]
prudent and make sure that we fund the
[1:06:14]
government the weight we promised to
[1:06:15]
fund it when we voted last June almost
[1:06:16]
a year ago, to fund all these programs.
[1:06:18]
So that is the purpose of the rainy
[1:06:20]
day fund, and that is what we are doing
[1:06:23]
right now. I believe you are looking at
[1:06:24]
the second part of the discussion that
[1:06:25]
needs to be had, which speaker and I
[1:06:28]
just discussed with Ms. Brown on where
[1:06:32]
do we go from there. But this first
[1:06:33]
part, basically moving the money is
[1:06:35]
just making sure that we uphold our
[1:06:37]
responsibilities to fund the programs
[1:06:38]
we all voted for. Excuse me.
[1:06:43]
>> May I follow up Mme. Chair yes him
[1:06:46]
Mr. Wheeler.
[1:06:47]
>> Thank you. I agree with you that
[1:06:48]
things have changed. There's no doubt
[1:06:52]
about that. When we were looking at a
[1:06:54]
very very solvent economy,, good money
[1:06:58]
coming in, we voted on a lot of things.
[1:07:02]
But, circumstances have changed. So
[1:07:03]
going back and saying, we voted on
[1:07:08]
these budgets and we need to push them
[1:07:09]
through, I think we need to change a
[1:07:10]
few things, and that is pretty much
[1:07:12]
what we have to do. The governor's
[1:07:15]
office can come up with a plan I believe
[1:07:18]
, but most importantly, we need to know
[1:07:21]
what the plan is before we start moving
[1:07:24]
money around. And even we are going to
[1:07:25]
try to do this or try to do that and I
[1:07:30]
think we can save some money here and I
[1:07:31]
think we can save some money there, I
[1:07:34]
would like to hear what some of those
[1:07:39]
details are. We are just not getting
[1:07:40]
that communication and I appreciate it.
[1:07:41]
It's a very weird situation. So, don't
[1:07:44]
get me wrong to my do appreciate that,
[1:07:53]
but I want to thank you for your time
[1:07:54]
and take the governor's office for
[1:07:55]
their time. I hope we can all actually
[1:07:56]
communicate were together and say,
[1:07:57]
because everybody -- there are 63 of us in
[1:07:58]
the building basically. Everybody would
[1:07:59]
have some good ideas I think. So let's
[1:08:02]
get together and talk about it.
[1:08:08]
>> And, Mr. Wheeler, I believe that
[1:08:09]
time will come when it is time to
[1:08:10]
address the next fiscal year's budget,
[1:08:16]
but I believe all the items that you
[1:08:17]
have cited, there would be no gain or
[1:08:18]
benefit from the changes between net
[1:08:19]
now in mid-May for just six weeks was
[1:08:20]
up those impacts of furloughs and CIP
[1:08:22]
projects and things along that line
[1:08:28]
would not have an impact. We have to
[1:08:29]
give state employees a 30 day notice.
[1:08:30]
So in essence it would be a two-week
[1:08:32]
impact. So I don't believe there is any
[1:08:34]
significant changes that we could make
[1:08:41]
right now that would impact us until
[1:08:42]
June 30. Those discussions will be based
[1:08:45]
on the next fiscal year and what
[1:08:46]
changes we have to make in the next
[1:08:48]
fiscal year. So with that come I
[1:08:49]
believe I had Dr. Titus had one had
[1:08:59]
wanted to speak to I'm sorry. I've the
[1:09:00]
speaker next and then I'll go to Dr.
[1:09:02]
Titus.
[1:09:03]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. I just want to
[1:09:06]
say, that we have projected anywhere
[1:09:11]
from five, over $600 million in
[1:09:14]
shortfall. We, for the first time put
[1:09:17]
money away in the rainy day fund into
[1:09:21]
thousands of name for this exact
[1:09:22]
purpose and thank God that we did that
[1:09:24]
we have this money in the rainy day
[1:09:25]
fund. I don't thinkyou stop paying your
[1:09:27]
power bill because you don't know
[1:09:34]
what's going to happen next week. We
[1:09:35]
have bills that we have approved. Now
[1:09:36]
with respect to federal aid that's a
[1:09:38]
different issue about after the money
[1:09:39]
is going to be used. And with respect
[1:09:41]
to any proposed cuts, that is an issue
[1:09:43]
that we have to deal with, but I think
[1:09:45]
it is quite frankly disingenuous
[1:09:50]
hijacker rainy day fund that was
[1:09:51]
created for this purpose because we
[1:09:53]
don't like the way things are going and
[1:09:54]
want to have more information before we
[1:09:55]
feed our kids. That is essentially what
[1:10:06]
we are saying. When are going to feed our
[1:10:07]
kids until we get more information. No.
[1:10:08]
We fear kids we take care of our
[1:10:09]
response was that we move forward. I
[1:10:10]
think Susan Brown has indicated that
[1:10:11]
though come up with a plan or some
[1:10:12]
proposals for the remaining 200 for the
[1:10:14]
remaining 200 million may be, but to
[1:10:21]
withhold rainy day funds that we put in
[1:10:22]
a savings account essentially for this
[1:10:23]
purpose, is like leaving money in
[1:10:24]
savings account are not paying your
[1:10:25]
bills and not putting food on the table
[1:10:26]
and I don't think we need to politicize
[1:10:29]
using the rainy day fund to try to get
[1:10:35]
more information in another capacity. I
[1:10:38]
think it's not how we govern. It's not
[1:10:39]
how we take care of Nevadans who
[1:10:45]
are for hurting. -- the only political
[1:10:46]
games. Yes, we need to continue to
[1:10:49]
communicate as director Brown has
[1:10:50]
indicated you to follow up and provide
[1:10:51]
us with direction and information but
[1:10:52]
people are hurting right now. Not in
[1:10:54]
two weeks not in four weeks. We need
[1:11:00]
to put money in the rainy day fund for
[1:11:01]
this purpose and so I would hope that
[1:11:02]
we would do right by the citizens of
[1:11:08]
Nevada and take care of our bills in
[1:11:09]
our state's needs and continue to work
[1:11:10]
together to address what's on the
[1:11:11]
horizon, not just today.
[1:11:13]
>> Thank you, speaker. I have queued
[1:11:15]
up folks who have wanted to speak. I
[1:11:20]
believe Sen. Kieckhefer next. So Sen.
[1:11:25]
Kieckhefer
[1:11:26]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. I appreciate
[1:11:27]
it. To follow along be example, I've
[1:11:33]
not heard yet we have a cash flow
[1:11:34]
problem that's requiring this transfer.
[1:11:37]
If we are transferring money from her
[1:11:38]
Simmons account or checking account we
[1:11:41]
need to do so because our checking
[1:11:42]
account is running out. I've not heard
[1:11:43]
that yet. Ms. Brown are we not paying
[1:11:45]
her bills? do you have a timeline
[1:11:47]
when you're going to need this extra
[1:11:49]
cash?
[1:11:50]
>>Mme. Chair if someone is speaking I
[1:12:06]
don't hear anything.
[1:12:10]
>> There is Ms. Brown. Ms. Brown, we
[1:12:11]
cannot hear you.
[1:12:17]
>> Can you hear me now?
[1:12:18]
>> Yes. Thank you.
[1:12:21]
>> Okay. Thank you. Sorry Susan Brown
[1:12:22]
for the record. As far as cash flow
[1:12:27]
issues go, with the DSA payments which
[1:12:31]
are in excess of $150 million a month
[1:12:33]
and payments to the system of higher
[1:12:36]
education we would need some cash to
[1:12:37]
buy the end of this month.
[1:12:42]
>> Okay. Do you have an estimate - -
[1:12:44]
let me follow up with another question
[1:12:45]
in. I've seen guidance from the
[1:12:48]
treasury is allowing states to use
[1:12:51]
their CARES Act money to Acca's cash
[1:12:53]
flow. Not spent it for other purposes
[1:13:03]
that are not allowed by the CARES Act
[1:13:04]
but using it for cash flow and we just
[1:13:05]
in our last meeting received $836
[1:13:06]
million in cash when the Fed will
[1:13:07]
assume our treasury is fairly flush at
[1:13:08]
this point? In my correct in that?
[1:13:13]
>> Susan Brown for the record. I have
[1:13:16]
heard that may be the case that the
[1:13:17]
money can be used for cash flow.
[1:13:24]
However, that does not change the fact
[1:13:25]
that by the end of this fiscal year we
[1:13:26]
would have a general fund balance that
[1:13:28]
would be below.
[1:13:30]
>> I appreciate that. I certainly
[1:13:34]
>>
[1:13:35]
>> [Multiple speakers]
[1:13:39]
>> Ms. Brown, appreciate that I
[1:13:40]
sorely don't question the ultimate need
[1:13:41]
for this money to be used this fiscal
[1:13:53]
year to help us come up with a
[1:13:54]
comprehensive solution for a budget
[1:13:55]
deficit but the argument has been made
[1:13:56]
that we need to pay our bills doesn't
[1:13:57]
seem to carry water when we have cash
[1:13:58]
in the treasury to pay our bills. I
[1:13:59]
think you would make more sense for us
[1:14:01]
to come together with a conference of
[1:14:02]
solution that can alleviate some the
[1:14:03]
concerns that might be faced by rating
[1:14:08]
agency by credit rating agencies with a
[1:14:09]
look at drawdowns of reserve accounts.
[1:14:15]
This is an appropriate use of a reserve
[1:14:16]
account. When we have declining
[1:14:17]
revenues but it is always put in
[1:14:25]
conjunction with spending reductions
[1:14:26]
and if needed, tax increases. That's
[1:14:27]
how they look at them as a three-legged
[1:14:28]
school to stabilize our treasury
[1:14:29]
during times of recession. So if we are
[1:14:32]
only addressing one leg of that stool
[1:14:33]
at this time I think that offers some
[1:14:34]
uncertainty over the states plan moving
[1:14:35]
forward with the we have one to address
[1:14:37]
our broader shortfalls. So if there's
[1:14:40]
not a cash flow issue I think would
[1:14:41]
make more senseMme. Chair, breast to
[1:14:43]
hold back on this. We are going to need
[1:14:46]
it more immediately we could draw down
[1:14:47]
a part of it but if were needing it
[1:14:49]
once or twice a week we could certainly
[1:14:53]
drop down more from the rainy day fund
[1:14:54]
if we needed to at a subsequent
[1:14:57]
meeting, for the end of this month. So
[1:15:00]
those are my thoughts at this timeMme.
[1:15:04]
Chair.
[1:15:07]
>> Thank you Sen. full I Believe Ave.,
[1:15:08]
Doctor Titus, next.
[1:15:13]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. I appreciate
[1:15:14]
the opportunity. I just want to thank
[1:15:15]
you for your statement Mme. Chair about
[1:15:32]
the need for key mitigation because I
[1:15:33]
think is going to be the neck crux of
[1:15:34]
this and make sure we all communicate.
[1:15:35]
I also appreciate the speaker's name
[1:15:36]
about not politicizing all this. To
[1:15:37]
that and I think what we need to do is
[1:15:38]
be fiscally responsible. And we have
[1:15:39]
lessons we learned during the recession
[1:15:40]
and in how we manage our funds at that
[1:15:42]
time. Lessons we don't want to repeat
[1:15:43]
perhaps. I think the bonding issue is a
[1:15:44]
real one. I think we need to be
[1:15:45]
responsible and not repeat the mistakes
[1:15:46]
we made then and lower the bonding
[1:15:48]
rating those considered go cost us more
[1:15:49]
money in the end. So I echo what the
[1:15:51]
senator just said regarding maybe not
[1:15:52]
the need to transfer the entire fund at
[1:16:02]
this time. Perhaps we do it in document
[1:16:03]
to which only have a capability, too. I
[1:16:04]
did we need to be a response about this
[1:16:05]
and they attention to her the money is
[1:16:06]
going out to the will be a need
[1:16:07]
everybody on this call I think
[1:16:08]
everybody - excuse me - everything the
[1:16:09]
state knows we are going to need to
[1:16:10]
have good fiscal responsibility. So I
[1:16:12]
appreciate the opportunity for that and
[1:16:14]
will be my belief that be thoughtful
[1:16:17]
about this, not transfer this entire
[1:16:18]
fund at this time Make sure we
[1:16:22]
understand the process and what we did
[1:16:23]
in the past and not repeat that. So
[1:16:24]
thank you for the opportunity.
[1:16:25]
>> Thank youDr. Titus for I can assure
[1:16:29]
you we are all being thoughtful.. Thank
[1:16:33]
you. So I believe Ed Sen. Settelmeyer,
[1:16:36]
next.
[1:16:39]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. I cannot
[1:16:43]
support the drawdown of the entire
[1:16:47]
rainy day fund I think we need to worry
[1:16:48]
about our bond rating. I am afraid we
[1:16:49]
can create a situation will cost us
[1:16:53]
more with existing bonds are still out
[1:16:58]
there without the cost will go up. Vs.
[1:16:59]
the money, still in the bank account. I
[1:17:00]
also look at this is your were looking
[1:17:06]
at deficit by the next year were
[1:17:07]
looking at potential a billion-dollar
[1:17:08]
deficit. I go back to the fact that
[1:17:09]
when the wind shut down a couple days
[1:17:10]
later the governor made the right
[1:17:12]
decision to shut down the casinos. We
[1:17:14]
all knew that's about $100 million a
[1:17:20]
month had we not be receiving revenue.
[1:17:21]
Yet there was no plan in March to start
[1:17:22]
reducing cost. In April, again, no
[1:17:25]
plans for reducing cost. May, there
[1:17:27]
still no plans to reduce cost. Without
[1:17:31]
that I cannot approve it. Thank you.
[1:17:33]
>> I believe I've Sen. Cancela, next.
[1:17:40]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. This is for
[1:17:43]
clarification or that anything because
[1:17:46]
while it is true that we have a
[1:17:51]
significant of CARES Act dollars
[1:17:52]
sitting in our state coffers, Ms.
[1:17:53]
Brown, could you please clarify and
[1:17:56]
make sure that it is clear on the
[1:17:58]
record that CARES Act dollars cannot
[1:18:00]
be used to pay our bills for lack of a
[1:18:07]
better description, the same way rainy
[1:18:08]
day funds can't and that the two funds
[1:18:10]
operate for different purposes?
[1:18:15]
>> Susan Brown for the record. The
[1:18:16]
rainy day fund dollars are general fund
[1:18:20]
and be used to pay the state bills was
[1:18:27]
up the CARES Act of these for cash flow
[1:18:28]
but there is parameters around how the
[1:18:29]
funds can be spent in has to be related
[1:18:30]
to costs associate with COVID 19 and
[1:18:32]
reacting and responding to COVID 19. I
[1:18:38]
would also add the CARES Act fundsare
[1:18:40]
only available until December 30 and we
[1:18:43]
will be dispersing those funds in the
[1:18:46]
near future as plans are approved for
[1:18:52]
those funds to got the door.
[1:18:53]
>> Thank you Ms. Brown. I just have a
[1:18:54]
quick follow-up Mme. Chair. We have a
[1:18:56]
real opportunity to be thoughtful and
[1:19:01]
forward thinking with our CARES Act
[1:19:03]
dollars. I understand they need to
[1:19:05]
pay down our bills and I appreciate the
[1:19:14]
decision before us today. I think it's
[1:19:15]
the right one but as we move forward
[1:19:16]
with the CARES Act dollars and with our
[1:19:17]
rainy day fund,, we have an opportunity
[1:19:21]
to be creative as a state about how the
[1:19:24]
two interact in making sure that, while
[1:19:25]
they certainly operate for certain
[1:19:29]
cost, we continue to be for thinking
[1:19:30]
about those dollars.
[1:19:33]
>> And, thank you Sen. Cancela. As we
[1:19:41]
talk about the CARES Act dollars, if we
[1:19:42]
do use those for our cash flow issues
[1:19:43]
than they are not available to help the
[1:19:47]
Nevadans were truly in the right now.
[1:19:48]
So I believe we would be put in a tough
[1:19:50]
position of making that choice whereas
[1:19:52]
we do have money in the savings account
[1:19:53]
right now to help us get through and
[1:19:59]
figure out how to get all these bills
[1:20:00]
paid. So I appreciate that. I believe
[1:20:05]
- - I'm not sure who I have next in
[1:20:06]
the queue. I have Ms. Benitez-Thompson,
[1:20:12]
and then I will go to you, Sen. Goicoechea.
[1:20:20]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. I'm taking
[1:20:21]
notes just trying to follow the
[1:20:22]
information that's given us.. Ms. Brown
[1:20:23]
I heard you say that we have got
[1:20:27]
payments for the DSA so payments to
[1:20:30]
schools for educating our kids and then
[1:20:32]
also payments to our higher education,
[1:20:39]
system of higher education. So those
[1:20:40]
are the two big payments that we have
[1:20:42]
in the next couple of weeks that, once
[1:20:48]
we make those, we will - - are fund
[1:20:49]
balance will be too low to have the
[1:20:58]
cash on hand to pay stuff in June. So
[1:20:59]
did I get that right? Those are the
[1:21:00]
two big expenditures this month?
[1:21:02]
>> Susan Brown for the record. Yes,
[1:21:07]
those are the two big expenditures and
[1:21:08]
there's Medicaid payments that go out
[1:21:09]
monthly as well, and I don't have the
[1:21:17]
numbers
[1:21:18]
>> Thank you. I was can ask about that.
[1:21:19]
I appreciate that. I was going to ask
[1:21:20]
just that because we know our biggest
[1:21:21]
pieces of the budget, by far our
[1:21:30]
education and health and human
[1:21:31]
services. So I was wondering about the
[1:21:32]
health and human service piece. So if
[1:21:33]
we don't move over this money we are
[1:21:34]
putting education and Medicaid dollars,
[1:21:36]
we tried those up. And we will not be
[1:21:37]
able to make those payments as a state
[1:21:40]
without moving the savings over four
[1:21:41]
DSA and Medicaid payments?
[1:21:44]
>> Am I getting it accurately?
[1:21:53]
>> Susan Brown for the record.. Yes,
[1:21:55]
you are accurate about that. That is
[1:21:59]
correct.
[1:22:07]
>> Any follow-up Ms. Benitez-Thompson?
[1:22:12]
>> I guess, no. I know that the board
[1:22:17]
of examiners met yesterday. I know that
[1:22:22]
- - or, recently. It feels like we
[1:22:25]
have met - - well it looks like we've
[1:22:29]
est. all the legal requirements for
[1:22:30]
what shortfall is and the provisions
[1:22:32]
that this legislature voted on her
[1:22:34]
when we could move this money. I think
[1:22:36]
that we as a body were very thoughtful
[1:22:40]
and reflective last session, even
[1:22:42]
though we would not be in this, to say
[1:22:45]
if we moved rainy day money over what
[1:22:47]
would be the statutory climates for
[1:22:54]
doing that. We want to make sure that
[1:22:55]
some Dover willy-nilly. We want to make
[1:22:56]
sure the state is really in a place
[1:22:57]
where it needs these funds and build
[1:23:01]
the language you trigger it that way. I
[1:23:02]
feel like we have met the precedents
[1:23:03]
that we put out there as a body and I
[1:23:05]
would sure hate to see educators that
[1:23:10]
notice that at school districts get
[1:23:13]
noticed in our Medicaid providers get
[1:23:15]
notice that they are not going to get
[1:23:19]
checks at the beginning of June because
[1:23:20]
we are not taking this action here
[1:23:21]
today.
[1:23:28]
>> So, I want to make sure I understand
[1:23:31]
this correctly. Ms. Brown, would you
[1:23:32]
repeat again what is the amount, as far
[1:23:35]
as the DSA goes?
[1:23:39]
>> Susan Brown for the record. The DSA
[1:23:47]
payment runs somewhere north of $150
[1:23:48]
million a month, I believe.
[1:23:51]
>> 150 million a month and you had
[1:23:53]
mentioned - -
[1:23:56]
>> I'm sorry, 115 million a month.
[1:24:00]
>> 115, okay. That's why we repeat.
[1:24:02]
>> [Multiple speakers]
[1:24:06]
>> There are months where it is
[1:24:07]
higher. Because some school districts
[1:24:10]
get their payments quarterly rather
[1:24:13]
than monthly.
[1:24:14]
>> Okay. Does that include the
[1:24:15]
shortfall from the - - or is that our
[1:24:17]
portion?
[1:24:19]
>> That is just our portion.
[1:24:23]
>> So, then we need to add the shortfall
[1:24:28]
from the LL ST that is documented that
[1:24:29]
the state is required to backfill.
[1:24:33]
Correct?
[1:24:34]
>> Susan Brown for the record that is
[1:24:35]
correct.
[1:24:38]
>> And, if I think of those numbers, if
[1:24:42]
you think over 400 million we are
[1:24:43]
moving right now, most of that I
[1:24:47]
believe will end up going to education,
[1:24:48]
am I correct?
[1:24:52]
>> You could say that, yes. It just a
[1:24:57]
big pot of money and that is one of our
[1:25:01]
biggest expenses. So that would be
[1:25:03]
accurate to say that.
[1:25:06]
>> Okay. I think there is still a
[1:25:08]
little bit of confusion. Sen.
[1:25:11]
Kieckhefer had asked a clarifying
[1:25:15]
question because one of the answers
[1:25:19]
with the majority leader he is little
[1:25:20]
confused also Sen. Kieckhefer did you
[1:25:22]
want to come back in?
[1:25:23]
>> I appreciate that's be one. I heard
[1:25:32]
what I heard was different. You
[1:25:33]
indicator based on the amount of cash
[1:25:34]
we have in the treasury we would be
[1:25:35]
unable to pay the DSA and higher Ed
[1:25:37]
payments at the end of this month.
[1:25:45]
That sounded just different the what
[1:25:46]
you told me. That we will be able to
[1:25:47]
make those plans based on the cash flow
[1:25:48]
flexibility allowed through the CARES
[1:25:49]
Act and what we currently have in the
[1:25:53]
general fund. Through our natural
[1:25:54]
general fund dollars.
[1:26:00]
>> Susan Brown for the record. For
[1:26:03]
clarification, those payments, we have
[1:26:07]
a casual issue in the general fund.
[1:26:10]
Obviously, based on what you have said
[1:26:17]
with a CARES Act money, that money is
[1:26:18]
sitting in our bank account and we can
[1:26:19]
use that for cash flow. We cannot use
[1:26:20]
it to balance the budget.
[1:26:21]
>> Right. So I'm not suggesting we use
[1:26:22]
it to supplant revenue,. I'm saying, if
[1:26:31]
we have to pay the check, write a check
[1:26:32]
to the school district we can use that
[1:26:33]
money temporarily to cover that outlay
[1:26:34]
to the school district knowing that we
[1:26:41]
will have to backfill it with either
[1:26:42]
rainy day fund money or some other
[1:26:44]
cutdown money, right?
[1:26:48]
>> Susan Brown for the record. That's
[1:26:49]
my understand but I been told that is
[1:26:50]
the case that we can use the CARES Act
[1:26:51]
money for cash flow?.
[1:26:55]
>> Right. So were not at risk of not
[1:26:56]
cutting a check for the school, right?
[1:27:01]
C was Susan Brown for the record. Not
[1:27:02]
at this time.
[1:27:11]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair I patient
[1:27:12]
everything for Karthik Asian
[1:27:13]
>> And, I appreciate that Sen., but
[1:27:14]
there is no guarantees that money will
[1:27:15]
be paid, that money will end up going
[1:27:16]
back into the CARES Act because we know
[1:27:17]
what it takes to deal with revenue in
[1:27:24]
this state. So, saying that we should
[1:27:25]
push that decision off and I believe,
[1:27:26]
would be irresponsible at this time. I
[1:27:27]
believe we know we have a
[1:27:33]
responsibility to get this money where
[1:27:34]
it needs to go. We have the dollars
[1:27:35]
available to do it. The CARES Act
[1:27:36]
cannot be used to deal with general
[1:27:41]
fund type issues. We would have to
[1:27:42]
figure out a way to put that money back
[1:27:43]
in later on. So you would just in
[1:27:48]
essence push the problem out rather
[1:27:49]
than dealing with a problem that's in
[1:27:50]
front of us right now. So that is my
[1:27:51]
concern. We just don't know where we
[1:28:00]
will be six, seven months from now. We
[1:28:01]
may be in more dire straits then we are
[1:28:02]
in now. So come I believe we should
[1:28:03]
address the problem that we have in
[1:28:04]
front of us now and make sure that we
[1:28:05]
go from there. But I do appreciate you
[1:28:14]
clarify exactly where we are when it
[1:28:15]
comes to these two funds of money. It
[1:28:16]
has been very confusing to a number of
[1:28:17]
folks how these two funds work in
[1:28:21]
parallel, but not really to support
[1:28:22]
each other. So, with that, I believe
[1:28:26]
Sen. Goicoechea has been waiting
[1:28:29]
patiently
[1:28:30]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. I don't think
[1:28:31]
there's any argument amongst anyone on
[1:28:33]
the committee that there is a need to
[1:28:36]
transfer at least a portion of the
[1:28:37]
rainy day fund. I think it's just a
[1:28:42]
time of when and if and how much.
[1:28:43]
Clearly, I believe because we do have,
[1:28:46]
assuming 800 million, plus from CARES
[1:28:47]
Act money that is presently residing in
[1:28:49]
the bank account, technically, that can
[1:28:54]
be used as an asset just to cover that
[1:28:58]
account materially until June 30. So I
[1:29:01]
don't think anybody's arguing whether
[1:29:05]
be in fact need to transfer from the
[1:29:06]
rainy day fund. Just the amount. I can
[1:29:15]
transfer half. We are meeting twice
[1:29:16]
this week were to continue to meet over
[1:29:17]
the next 30 days. I feel a lot more
[1:29:18]
comfortable for a feeling where we were
[1:29:22]
15 June for exactly what cuts do we
[1:29:23]
have in place, what was going to be
[1:29:24]
required and yes, we all understand
[1:29:27]
that even additional 200 million if we
[1:29:31]
only forwarded half of the committee to
[1:29:32]
enter million would be enough, but at
[1:29:35]
least we would have an idea where we
[1:29:37]
are headed. If we throw the 400 and,
[1:29:40]
last time I changed some money from my
[1:29:41]
savings to checking, pretty much went
[1:29:45]
through it in one day. It rolls right
[1:29:46]
along. We've got time we got the body
[1:29:48]
in place. Let's take a look at just
[1:29:50]
exactly where we are. I can support
[1:29:53]
half of the rainy day account but give
[1:30:03]
it 30 days. Let's see where we are in
[1:30:04]
our plan. I'm afraid we are hanging all
[1:30:05]
of this on maybe a federal stimulus
[1:30:06]
package that might be coming and might
[1:30:07]
not be coming down the road and I do
[1:30:19]
want to try to balance the budget on
[1:30:20]
that either. So with that I cannot
[1:30:21]
support transferring the whole rainy
[1:30:22]
day fund. I could definitely go with
[1:30:23]
half of it and let's see where we are
[1:30:24]
in 30 days. Were going to have to make
[1:30:25]
some cuts. We cannot bounce this on
[1:30:26]
just the rainy day account and the
[1:30:27]
rainy dunce rainy day fund balance.
[1:30:28]
Thank you
[1:30:29]
>> So, all go to th with that I'll go
[1:30:30]
to Sen Woodhouse Woodhouse.
[1:30:33]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. I have a
[1:30:37]
comment. I want to circle around to
[1:30:38]
some of the information that we know
[1:30:41]
and that we've also heard from today.
[1:30:44]
First of all, Mme. Chair you and
[1:30:50]
speaker Frierson laid that out, very
[1:30:56]
good reasons why we need to move the
[1:30:57]
entire many day fund today. And I want
[1:31:00]
to thank Ms. Brown and everyone in the
[1:31:03]
governor's office regarding the
[1:31:05]
commitment to us to keep us in the loop
[1:31:10]
about what kinds of plans that they
[1:31:13]
see,, especially as they look at
[1:31:16]
reversions, one time once of times
[1:31:20]
they cut one time funding. Things we
[1:31:23]
will have to change, and make those
[1:31:25]
cuts. We are really fortunate in this
[1:31:31]
last legislative session that we put
[1:31:33]
some additional - - we put money into
[1:31:34]
the rainy day fund.. It's not been
[1:31:37]
something that's been there every
[1:31:38]
single legislative session. So this is
[1:31:44]
our first, I guess you would call, pot
[1:31:46]
of money, to go after in order to
[1:31:50]
address this huge deficit that we have
[1:31:54]
that is probably going to grow. We know
[1:31:55]
it's going to grow bigger. So this is
[1:31:58]
the way to get started and then we have
[1:32:01]
to look at reversions. We have to look
[1:32:05]
at one time funding we have to make
[1:32:11]
cuts from. A number of us were here
[1:32:13]
back in the recession in 2008 through
[1:32:19]
11, and for those of you who have not
[1:32:20]
had that experience, I can tell you how
[1:32:24]
difficultthat is when we look at
[1:32:26]
services and people and really word
[1:32:31]
prefer to say people first and then
[1:32:32]
services, that are going to be hurt by
[1:32:35]
what's happening with the pandemic. So
[1:32:38]
I just want to reiterate the comments
[1:32:42]
made, particularly by the speaker and
[1:32:47]
the chair, in that this is the
[1:32:48]
appropriate time for us to move the
[1:32:50]
fold rainy day fund. It's 400, plus
[1:32:56]
million and a deficit we have is going
[1:33:01]
to be exceedingly larger than that. So
[1:33:02]
it is time to begin the work that we
[1:33:03]
have to do. So thank you Mme. Chair.
[1:33:05]
>> Thank you all very much. I believe
[1:33:13]
in response, if the conversation with
[1:33:21]
moving it twice, it would require
[1:33:22]
another BOE. It would require us to do
[1:33:23]
the process all over again. So at this
[1:33:25]
time I believe it is more appropriate
[1:33:27]
to go ahead and move the whole amount.
[1:33:33]
We know we are going to need it. We
[1:33:34]
know we will be working on this.
[1:33:37]
Splitting it in two, I don't believe
[1:33:38]
serves any purpose other than to slow
[1:33:43]
it down and possibly cause more
[1:33:45]
misinformation out there about what
[1:33:48]
the state is doing with its rainy day
[1:33:50]
fund so, with that are there any other
[1:33:54]
comments? Are there any other comments?
[1:34:07]
Did I see a hand raised because
[1:34:14]
speaker Frierson. I will let Mr.
[1:34:15]
Settelmeyer go first and then speaker
[1:34:16]
Frierson. Sen. SettelmeyerB thank you
[1:34:20]
Mme. Chair. What is the total amount
[1:34:21]
necessary in order to cover educational
[1:34:25]
BSA expenses and the LLC backdrop you
[1:34:27]
mention?
[1:34:30]
>> Ms. Brown do you have that number
[1:34:32]
available?
[1:34:37]
>> Susan Brown for the record. I do
[1:34:38]
not have an exact amount at this moment
[1:34:41]
in time. But I believe it's pretty high.
[1:34:49]
>> Do you have an estimate, by chance?
[1:34:56]
>> I do not have an estimate. I don't
[1:34:57]
have that right in front of me where I
[1:34:59]
am at. Without looks like. But I would
[1:35:01]
say, - - while I won't say a number
[1:35:04]
because I don't have it in front of me
[1:35:05]
and I don't want to misspeak.
[1:35:09]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair.
[1:35:13]
>> Thank you, Sen. I have some
[1:35:14]
forecast but they are not definitive
[1:35:17]
and I would hate to put a number out
[1:35:18]
there in the public that we cannot
[1:35:23]
actually substantiate. Staff has taught
[1:35:24]
me very well to be careful about
[1:35:25]
approximating certain things, but I
[1:35:26]
think we can all agree that it's
[1:35:31]
pretty bad and that we are going to
[1:35:32]
have a lot to deal with before the end
[1:35:34]
of this year. So with that, speaker
[1:35:39]
Frierson.
[1:35:43]
>> I just want to make clear, I
[1:35:44]
appreciate the interest in wanting more
[1:35:47]
information. I think that what we do,
[1:35:49]
we pick up the phone and call and
[1:35:51]
communicate to be statesmen and states
[1:35:58]
woman to participate and urge
[1:35:59]
communication and collaboration but
[1:36:00]
again, for somebody living
[1:36:04]
month-to-month they don't get a payday
[1:36:05]
loan when they know have money in their
[1:36:06]
savings account. What is being proposed
[1:36:07]
is that if we transferred in entirety
[1:36:11]
recognizing it still less than what
[1:36:15]
project meeting, and we still have the
[1:36:16]
opportunity, not only to have
[1:36:18]
conversations with the governor about
[1:36:23]
likely future cuts and how we can
[1:36:24]
actually get there, but priorities as
[1:36:28]
far as ongoing obligations. But it
[1:36:33]
doesn't relieve us of the obligation to
[1:36:34]
talk and pick up the phone and call
[1:36:37]
instead of withholding to force it.
[1:36:41]
So you don't wait until you bounce a
[1:36:42]
check to transfer money into the
[1:36:44]
checking account easily don't borrow
[1:36:48]
from a search of the back when you know
[1:36:49]
you have money in your savings account
[1:36:52]
to meet those obligations. At that
[1:36:53]
point I would get a need to use that
[1:36:54]
money for Cashel? Maybe and it will be
[1:36:57]
there until the end of the year, but
[1:36:58]
again, wedon't have money in the fund
[1:37:04]
the rainy financial 2017. So I think
[1:37:05]
the fact that we have it there will
[1:37:08]
provide certainty to folks that were
[1:37:09]
doing everything we can that we will
[1:37:10]
continue to look at ways to either cut
[1:37:12]
or otherwise get by but doesn't relieve
[1:37:20]
us of any opportunity to talk and
[1:37:21]
collaborate and communicate. I don't
[1:37:22]
think that - - I don't think moving
[1:37:23]
the rainy day funds is going to in any
[1:37:26]
greater way divided opportunity to do
[1:37:30]
that. I think we still need to do that.
[1:37:35]
>> Thank you, speaker. With that come
[1:37:36]
I don't have anyone else signaling
[1:37:38]
they have any questions, or comments.
[1:37:41]
So can I believe we can go ahead and
[1:37:45]
proceed. With that I will go ahead and
[1:37:49]
stay the motion to make sure that we
[1:37:50]
are explicitly clear in what we are
[1:37:52]
doing. I will accept a motion to
[1:37:56]
transfer $401 million from the account
[1:38:03]
to stabilize the operation of state
[1:38:08]
government to the state general fund as
[1:38:09]
recommended by the board of examiners
[1:38:10]
on the 14th 2020 in accordance with an
[1:38:14]
RS 353.282 subsection 7. I will take a
[1:38:20]
motion from the speaker and I'll take a
[1:38:21]
second from by chair Woodhouse. Other
[1:38:23]
questions or comments on the motion as
[1:38:25]
stated? Sen. Kieckhefer..
[1:38:39]
>> I was look at a statue the packet.
[1:38:40]
It says were supposed to do this by
[1:38:41]
resolution. We have a resolution we are
[1:38:42]
looking at?
[1:38:43]
>> Ms. Jones, do you want to clarify
[1:38:44]
that?
[1:38:45]
>> Yes, Mme. Chair.. There's a
[1:38:49]
resolution to be signed by the chair
[1:38:52]
just as resolutions are when we
[1:38:53]
transfer funds from the contingency
[1:38:56]
account to various programs. If you
[1:39:07]
would like we can distribute that to
[1:39:08]
members.
[1:39:09]
>> I don't a guy need it. I just want
[1:39:10]
to know there's a document we are
[1:39:11]
looking at. It's transferring a balance
[1:39:12]
that's pretty much what it says?
[1:39:13]
>> Yes. Sen. Kieckhefer, yes. It's
[1:39:14]
prepared by the legal division per our
[1:39:18]
resolutions when we do other transfers
[1:39:19]
from the contingency account.
[1:39:22]
>> Yes, Sen., typically after the
[1:39:27]
meeting after the motion and the second
[1:39:28]
and a vote before I leave the room Ms.
[1:39:29]
Jones hands me the resolutions that we
[1:39:39]
have passed so they can be signed. This
[1:39:40]
one will be signed with my electronic
[1:39:41]
signature. So after the vote is taken.
[1:39:42]
So are there any other questions or
[1:39:43]
comments? I want to make sure everyone
[1:39:44]
is comfortable. Seeing no other hands
[1:39:48]
or voices being raised, I will ask to
[1:39:52]
call the role, please.
[1:39:53]
>> Roll Call Vote: Benitez-Thompson,,
[1:39:58]
aye. Frierson,, aye. Leavitt, nay.
[1:40:14]
Jauregui, aye. Kremer, nay.
[1:40:24]
Monroe-Moreno,, aye. Neal, aye.
[1:40:34]
Spiegel,, aye. Munk, aye. Swank, aye.
[1:40:47]
Backus, aye. Titus, nay. Wheeler,
[1:41:02]
nay. Carlton,, aye. Brooks, aye.
[1:41:13]
Cancela, aye. Denis, aye.
[1:41:22]
Goicoechea,, nay. Kieckhefer, nay.
[1:41:29]
Parks, aye. Settelmeyer, nay.
[1:41:40]
Woodhouse, aye.
[1:41:45]
>> Mme. Chair the motion carries.
[1:41:47]
>> Can you hear me? Can you hear me?
[1:42:10]
>> We can hear you.
[1:42:12]
>> Okay. Good. I lost you guys for
[1:42:18]
moment. Sorry about that. So with that,
[1:42:19]
the motion passes. We can go ahead and
[1:42:23]
move on to the next item. Item F,
[1:42:27]
request for approval to accept gifts
[1:42:34]
and grants expeditious program for the
[1:42:35]
department of education CARES Act
[1:42:37]
elementary and secondary school
[1:42:38]
emergency relief funds.
[1:42:40]
>> If we could queue up the presenter,
[1:42:56]
please.
[1:42:58]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair I members of
[1:42:59]
the committee. This is Joanbeaver State
[1:43:04]
Superintendent of Pub. instruction.
[1:43:05]
Today I have with me deputy
[1:43:07]
superintendent Heidi parks and as you
[1:43:10]
noted we are requesting the acceptance
[1:43:11]
and the ability to expand the federal
[1:43:19]
funds under the elementary and
[1:43:20]
secondary school emergency relief
[1:43:21]
funds, which they are referring to as
[1:43:22]
[inaudible]. The funds are allocated
[1:43:26]
through the coronavirus aid relief and
[1:43:27]
economic security act in the amount of
[1:43:31]
$170 m 185 - excuse me - $185,045 to
[1:43:38]
assist local education agencies
[1:43:39]
throughout the state and provide
[1:43:42]
support for remote learning. The US
[1:43:44]
Department of education made the
[1:43:48]
application of Abel on Friday, April 28
[1:43:50]
. The Department of Education submitted
[1:43:55]
the application on the Tuesday
[1:43:56]
following, which was April 20 and the
[1:43:59]
state did receive those funds on May 1.
[1:44:03]
The department of education was
[1:44:05]
allocate 90 percent of the funds to the
[1:44:08]
- - according to FY 19 title I
[1:44:13]
methodology. And that amounts to
[1:44:18]
105,000,004 and $66,000. MD may set
[1:44:27]
aside 10 percent of those dollars which
[1:44:28]
is just over 11 million for statewide
[1:44:29]
activities, and the funds must be
[1:44:32]
expended by September 2022. The
[1:44:37]
allowable use for all of those funds,
[1:44:38]
even though they are allocated based on
[1:44:39]
title Idesignation for those funds may
[1:44:43]
be used across the entire LDA as well
[1:44:45]
as the public charters and authority
[1:44:51]
schools will they must also have
[1:44:52]
consultation with private schools to
[1:44:54]
allocate those funds. They may use them
[1:44:58]
in response to all of the efforts and
[1:45:02]
preparation related to COVID 19, such
[1:45:07]
as coordination with our school
[1:45:08]
districts and our local health
[1:45:14]
officials. And they provide
[1:45:15]
professional development for educators
[1:45:16]
to support families and communities,
[1:45:17]
social emotional health.. They also may
[1:45:18]
use the dollars to cure educational
[1:45:25]
technology which we know we about
[1:45:26]
100,000 devices short in our state to
[1:45:27]
provide a one-to-one assistance. Make a
[1:45:31]
note of mental and social emotional
[1:45:36]
learning supports and the activities
[1:45:37]
necessary to maintain the operation of
[1:45:39]
and continuity of services and local
[1:45:40]
educational agencies such as PPE and
[1:45:56]
other equipment needed. So this does
[1:45:57]
not represent a list of all the things
[1:45:58]
that they may expend their funds on.
[1:45:59]
But it does provide you with an
[1:46:00]
overview. We have been working with
[1:46:01]
school districts to coordinate the use
[1:46:02]
of these funds,, not only locally, but
[1:46:08]
across school districts. A lot of great
[1:46:09]
coordination in that area. And we are
[1:46:10]
seeking your approval this morning.
[1:46:11]
Thank you.
[1:46:12]
>> Thank you very much. I will go
[1:46:15]
ahead and open it up for questions. I
[1:46:16]
believe I've Sen. Woodhouse, first.
[1:46:22]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. Thank you,
[1:46:25]
Superintendent Ebert. This is going to
[1:46:26]
be extremely helpful I want to ask you,
[1:46:30]
you indicated some guidance they are for
[1:46:35]
schools, public schools and charter
[1:46:37]
schools. So, what - - in addition to
[1:46:40]
the guidance that has been provided
[1:46:42]
will you be doing any more in depth
[1:46:45]
guidance what kind of oversight will
[1:46:48]
they department provide two school
[1:46:53]
districts and charter schools when they
[1:46:54]
access these cares dollars?
[1:46:59]
>> Thank you very much vice chair. So
[1:47:03]
these funds and everyone knows this all
[1:47:06]
of this work has been moving very
[1:47:07]
quickly. At the department we created a
[1:47:10]
committee to support schools. I speak
[1:47:13]
with assumer tenants at least once a
[1:47:15]
week individually, multiple times as
[1:47:18]
well. The superintendents have also
[1:47:21]
have been creating their committees as
[1:47:22]
we learn more what the pandemic - -
[1:47:30]
as we try to move forward as a state
[1:47:31]
and nation and globally. What that
[1:47:37]
means for educating our children to
[1:47:38]
ensure continuity of education. The
[1:47:39]
accountability piece right now, within
[1:47:42]
the application we have built in that
[1:47:44]
identify where they expect to expend
[1:47:47]
those funds, and we know that there
[1:47:51]
will be - - it's not your traditional
[1:47:55]
application that we have had in the
[1:47:56]
past, where we build including the
[1:47:58]
federal government normally has an
[1:47:59]
application and timeline for issuing a
[1:48:07]
funds. But it's over many months. They
[1:48:08]
were actually, once we submitted our
[1:48:13]
application, and ensure the funds
[1:48:14]
within three days. So we know that the
[1:48:15]
process on the front end has built in
[1:48:18]
the expectation with accountability on
[1:48:23]
the backend. So what we did with our
[1:48:24]
application working with[inaudible] as
[1:48:26]
well to make sure we can provide the
[1:48:27]
funds in a timely manner, that portions
[1:48:32]
of identification where those funds
[1:48:33]
will be are in the application and
[1:48:37]
working with the districts to make sure
[1:48:38]
that as we move through accountability
[1:48:42]
is there through the entire process.
[1:48:45]
Not waiting until the very end.>> Thank
[1:48:53]
you. Mme. Chair, I have a follow-up
[1:48:54]
question if that's acceptable
[1:48:55]
>> Yes. Please, go ahead Sen.
[1:48:57]
>> Thank you. It is my understanding
[1:49:00]
that there is no math requirement for
[1:49:08]
the funding but a maintenance of
[1:49:09]
effort. Could you explain the
[1:49:10]
maintenance of effort to come in and
[1:49:11]
associate with the funding and how the
[1:49:14]
department plans to comply with that or
[1:49:15]
do you plan to seek a waiver in order
[1:49:17]
to handle this issue?>>
[1:49:28]
>> Can you hear me?
[1:49:44]
>> Yes. Be so these funds do come with
[1:49:45]
a maintenance of effort requirements
[1:49:48]
and the federal government is asking
[1:49:51]
each state to the extent possible to
[1:49:52]
continue the level of funding in
[1:49:55]
fiscal year 20 and 21. That would agree
[1:50:03]
to the average funding they have for
[1:50:04]
elementary and secondary education as
[1:50:05]
well as higher education in the three
[1:50:09]
previous fiscal years. In the event
[1:50:10]
that states are unable to do that, the
[1:50:15]
secretary of education of the United
[1:50:16]
States department of education will
[1:50:17]
establish a process they can request a
[1:50:21]
waiver. To my knowledge we have not
[1:50:22]
received any guidance on how that
[1:50:23]
waiver can be requested and until such
[1:50:28]
time as we know what if any budget
[1:50:29]
reductions are implement it, we don't
[1:50:30]
know if we will be able to continue
[1:50:32]
funding at the average over those
[1:50:36]
three specific fiscal years or if we
[1:50:38]
will need a waiver to meet the
[1:50:42]
maintenance of expectation.
[1:50:49]
>> Thank you. Any follow-up?
[1:50:53]
>> Yes. I do have one quick question.
[1:50:55]
Do the mental health hospitals that
[1:51:00]
have schools, with a qualify for
[1:51:01]
receiving any of these funds? Some of
[1:51:04]
them had to purchase computers and that
[1:51:05]
sort of thing to do the distance
[1:51:09]
learning. So is there any assistance
[1:51:10]
there?
[1:51:11]
>> So that 90 percent of the funds are
[1:51:17]
allocated directly to the school
[1:51:19]
districts as well as the state public
[1:51:22]
school charter authority. The
[1:51:29]
additional 10 percent that is set
[1:51:30]
aside, we do fully expect they will be
[1:51:31]
able to to apply for those funds.
[1:51:36]
>> Very good. Thank you very much.
[1:51:39]
>> Thank you, Sen. I believe I have
[1:51:42]
Sen. Denis the next.
[1:51:44]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. So as was
[1:51:50]
mentioned, Ms. Ebert you mentioned
[1:51:51]
there were about 100,000 short to do
[1:51:54]
one-to-one technology. Is that correct?
[1:51:55]
>> That is correct. Last time we
[1:52:01]
survey the school doesn't districts
[1:52:02]
that the number we were provided.
[1:52:03]
>> Because I know we have been adding
[1:52:05]
for several years trying to get to this
[1:52:07]
one to one and we been short for a while.
[1:52:10]
We've already added some during the
[1:52:11]
pandemic is that correct?
[1:52:15]
>> That is correct.
[1:52:16]
>> Do we know what the numbers?
[1:52:18]
>> Superintendent Ebert for the
[1:52:22]
record, I apologize. The number that I
[1:52:23]
quoted you was actually inclusive of
[1:52:29]
the devices that have been ordered by
[1:52:30]
school districts. When we started
[1:52:31]
collecting this data in mid March
[1:52:33]
specifically March 18 the school
[1:52:36]
districts actually reported they were
[1:52:38]
130,000 devices short They have been
[1:52:40]
able to deploy 30,000 devices over the
[1:52:48]
last six weeks. So which is about 80
[1:52:53]
percent of students have access. It is
[1:52:54]
the 20 percent, the last mile that we
[1:52:58]
are missing.
[1:52:59]
>> Okay. So as I thought about this,
[1:53:03]
because we have been emphasizing a lot
[1:53:05]
on the one to one so they could get something
[1:53:11]
when they're not able to be in a
[1:53:12]
building with a teacher. Are we
[1:53:13]
allocating money to staff up, to be
[1:53:14]
able to maintain these? If you have
[1:53:17]
issues with the commuters, have - -
[1:53:19]
are they staffing up for training?
[1:53:25]
Curriculum development, those kind of
[1:53:27]
things? Is that something that is
[1:53:29]
going to be monitored as we go through
[1:53:30]
this?
[1:53:32]
>> Superintendent Ebert for the
[1:53:33]
record. Thank you Sen. Sen. These
[1:53:40]
questions are spot on. This is a
[1:53:42]
system. It doesn't matter - - if we
[1:53:46]
provide every single students in our
[1:53:47]
state with a device and we don't
[1:53:48]
provide family support more parent
[1:53:52]
support, teacher support and how do you
[1:54:01]
make a shift, we have some educators
[1:54:02]
that have great experience in our state
[1:54:03]
that have been doing distance learning
[1:54:04]
for over two decades, and then we have
[1:54:05]
other teachers that are not had the
[1:54:11]
opportunity to teach students at a
[1:54:12]
distance. So we need to make sure that
[1:54:13]
we create a system that has the
[1:54:14]
technology and Internet access. So
[1:54:16]
hopefully, which is currently in the
[1:54:21]
heroes act. We will see additional
[1:54:22]
support for broadband for schools and
[1:54:25]
familiesdirectly into the home. The
[1:54:26]
second bucket, high quality content
[1:54:28]
high quality professional development
[1:54:30]
for teachers, and to use content and
[1:54:36]
then professional development. So we
[1:54:37]
are looking at cross the entire system
[1:54:40]
to make sure we have all of those
[1:54:41]
pieces in place was up the school
[1:54:44]
districts have collaborated with that
[1:54:46]
we have been working closely with them
[1:54:47]
to leverage the teachers that are
[1:54:52]
experienced to be able to support
[1:54:53]
teachers that are just new to this
[1:54:56]
experience. So we are building that
[1:55:01]
system out very thoughtfully and are
[1:55:02]
very short period of time. Like many
[1:55:03]
other test we are doing during this
[1:55:06]
pandemic.
[1:55:07]
>> Thank you. Then the last concern
[1:55:09]
that I have it has to do with the
[1:55:14]
actual deployment. When we say one to one,
[1:55:18]
are we really saying, one to one. One of the
[1:55:19]
concerns I have one a lot of the
[1:55:29]
started getting done as they would call
[1:55:30]
family and the family has one device
[1:55:31]
but they have three kids or for kids,
[1:55:32]
it's very difficult for all for kids to
[1:55:34]
get access to the device. So I want to
[1:55:35]
make sure when were talking one to one
[1:55:40]
every child has access to a device. So
[1:55:41]
that they are not inhibited in their
[1:55:42]
ability to be able to learn.
[1:55:43]
>> Thank you Sen. Denis. For the
[1:55:48]
record set superintendent Ebert. In my
[1:55:49]
mind one to one is one to one, one
[1:55:55]
child when device. You are exactly
[1:55:56]
right it doesn't make sense to three
[1:55:57]
children and household trying to share
[1:56:00]
one technology piece. It would be like
[1:56:01]
giving them each a pencil were one
[1:56:07]
pencil in St., please share this and
[1:56:08]
complete your work. So we are making a
[1:56:09]
shift and should be one device per
[1:56:13]
student. I will make sure we are having
[1:56:14]
that same conversation with all of the
[1:56:15]
superintendents and charter school
[1:56:19]
authority.
[1:56:20]
>> Thank you very much. Thank you Mme.
[1:56:21]
Chair.
[1:56:22]
>> Thank you Sen. Denis. I'll go to
[1:56:25]
assemblywoman Neal next
[1:56:31]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. So I had a
[1:56:32]
question on the supplanting provision.
[1:56:33]
I was reading in the backup that the
[1:56:35]
ESS are allows the supplanting and it
[1:56:38]
actually allows the funds to take
[1:56:42]
place at the state and local funds for
[1:56:44]
allowable activity. CSST is getting,
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what is that, 83 million? Have they
[1:56:51]
broken out what they're going to use it
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for, and how they are going to fill in
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their budget?
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>> Thank you assemblywoman Neal for
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superintendent Ebert for the record.
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Like the conversation before I think a
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lot of moving parts. The school
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district are looking at what the budget
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reductions will be along with these
[1:57:13]
funds. And not looking at each
[1:57:15]
individual piece in isolation. So I
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can't speak for the Clark County school
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District specifically. They are aware
[1:57:24]
of the dollars that are being made
[1:57:25]
available within the CARES Act and
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then I'm sure they will move forward
[1:57:30]
accordingly. You're actually right on
[1:57:31]
the supplement vs. a plan. They have
[1:57:32]
made these dollars extremely flexible,
[1:57:36]
that if they choose to use all the
[1:57:37]
dollars on devices, and Internet
[1:57:41]
connectivity for children, that they
[1:57:44]
may and/or use all the dollars, the 83
[1:57:51]
Millie Dawes for social emotional
[1:57:52]
learning. So it is incumbent upon the
[1:57:53]
school district leaders to make sure
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they have a plan that meets the needs
[1:57:56]
of their individual school districts.
[1:57:59]
Each school district is unique as you
[1:58:01]
well know and the public school charter
[1:58:04]
authority is as well so we have some
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schools that accelerate and continue to
[1:58:09]
accelerate in this arena and others that
[1:58:11]
quite frankly, have struggled.
[1:58:17]
>> Mme. Chair, just a quick follow-up..
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>> Yes.
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>> Director Ebert, did have to give
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you a plan? At of the listed items did
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have to tell you, we are going to fight
[1:58:30]
out of 11 and then show youhow there
[1:58:33]
around student learning there is a
[1:58:34]
clear equity piece.. Do they have to
[1:58:38]
illustrate to you how they were
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equitable with those subpopulations?
[1:58:47]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair and
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assemblywoman. The focus is on the
[1:58:57]
highest [inaudible] students. The way
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we have constructed this so they can
[1:59:06]
achieve, receive the dollars to meet
[1:59:07]
the needs of the students quickly is
[1:59:11]
that, we have built it out with the
[1:59:13]
various categories that I explained
[1:59:14]
earlier, and then they are to explain
[1:59:16]
how they will focus and meet the needs
[1:59:25]
of our low income students come our
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children with disabilities, our English
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language learners, racial, ethnic
[1:59:28]
minorities that are not experiencing
[1:59:29]
success in our educational system,
[1:59:33]
homelessness, foster care, all those
[1:59:34]
are high-priority focus within these
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dollars are allocated to the districts.
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>> Thank you. So I believe we can go to
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Sen. Cancela, next.
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>> Thank you Mme. Chair. Dir. Ebert, I
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have heard that procurementof
[2:00:03]
materials, whether it is tablets or
[2:00:04]
computers, has been a challenge because
[2:00:05]
we are up against the entire country
[2:00:09]
potentially the whole globe, in getting
[2:00:10]
these digital tools to our students and
[2:00:14]
getting them ordered and get any orders
[2:00:15]
fulfilled. Do you have a timeline of
[2:00:20]
when you anticipate these materials
[2:00:21]
will actually be in the hands of
[2:00:25]
students and is there anything we can
[2:00:26]
do to support moving that along as
[2:00:27]
quickly as possible?
[2:00:30]
>> Thank you Sen. for that question,
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superintendent Ebert for the record. It
[2:00:40]
has been roughly, school district are
[2:00:41]
reporting in somewhere between six and
[2:00:44]
eight weeks for devices to come in. At
[2:00:47]
this point in time, it really is a
[2:00:48]
matter of funding. The funding needs to
[2:00:51]
be made available so they can place
[2:00:55]
orders. You are right, the sub supply
[2:01:00]
chain with the school district across
[2:01:01]
the nation looking, and the dollars
[2:01:02]
being made available, for devices, the
[2:01:06]
sooner these orders are placed the
[2:01:13]
quicker we can get devices and
[2:01:14]
connectivity to our students and
[2:01:15]
families in their homes.
[2:01:23]
>> All right. Are there any other
[2:01:26]
questions from committee members at
[2:01:28]
this time? Seeing none, I believe we
[2:01:36]
can go ahead and move forward with this
[2:01:42]
item. So I would accept a motion to
[2:01:47]
process item number three - excuse me -
[2:01:48]
item 7, making sure I've the right
[2:01:57]
number here. Item F. I will accept a
[2:02:02]
motion from vice chair Woodhouse and a
[2:02:05]
second from Majority Leader
[2:02:09]
Benitez-Thompson. Are there any questions
[2:02:10]
or comments on the motion? Hearing
[2:02:18]
none, I will go ahead and call the role
[2:02:20]
>> Roll Call Vote: Benitez-Thompson,
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aye. Frierson, aye. Leavitt, aye.
[2:02:43]
Jauregui, aye. Kremer, aye.
[2:02:53]
Monroe-Moreno aye. Neal, aye.
[2:03:00]
Spiegel, aye., Spiegel, aye. Munk,
[2:03:16]
aye. Swank, aye. Backus, aye.
[2:03:31]
Titus, aye. Wheeler, aye. Carlton,
[2:03:43]
aye. Brooks, aye. Cancela,, aye.
[2:03:53]
Denis, aye. Goicoechea, aye.
[2:04:01]
Kieckhefer, aye. Parks, aye.
[2:04:09]
Settelmeyer, aye. Woodhouse, aye.
[2:04:14]
>> The motion carries.
[2:04:19]
>> Thank you. So with that item number
[2:04:23]
F is taken care of. I believe our next
[2:04:25]
item is a discussion point only.. I
[2:04:29]
will go ahead and turn it over to
[2:04:31]
speaker Frierson,, as far as the
[2:04:33]
discussion about establishing a
[2:04:36]
committee foroversight and input on the
[2:04:41]
COVID 19 money. So speaker Frierson.
[2:04:44]
>> Thank you Mme. Chair. As we briefly
[2:04:46]
discussed at our last meeting and have
[2:04:51]
been abundantly apparent both in that
[2:04:52]
meeting and this meeting, there is not
[2:04:54]
only a desire but a focus on us in the
[2:05:01]
legislative branch, looking at the
[2:05:02]
influx of federal dollars.. And having
[2:05:06]
hearings on where money has gone and
[2:05:08]
hearing from different stakeholders
[2:05:10]
about where money should go. And making
[2:05:16]
recommendations based on those
[2:05:21]
hearings. Again if we did this in 2009
[2:05:22]
with federal aid and I would envision
[2:05:25]
that the structure and process would be
[2:05:27]
similar regarding the composition and
[2:05:32]
oversight. This would be done in
[2:05:33]
conjunction with the executive and
[2:05:37]
having these hearings and making these
[2:05:40]
recommendations, and so it would be my
[2:05:44]
wish to have that subcommittee formed
[2:05:49]
and on Thursday, on Thursday, get
[2:05:57]
moving on the creation of that, so that
[2:06:01]
we can envision getting more information
[2:06:06]
and collectively having some
[2:06:07]
conversations about how that money has
[2:06:11]
been used and how it should be used. I
[2:06:12]
will also say that the intention is
[2:06:13]
for it to be broad enough that any
[2:06:18]
future federal dollars that may come
[2:06:20]
would also be in conference. So we will
[2:06:24]
have to do this based on the narrow
[2:06:27]
CARES Act in and of itself and rather
[2:06:32]
related to coronavirus and the pandemic
[2:06:33]
so we continue to do the work of where
[2:06:35]
the money is and input from the crayon
[2:06:38]
where it should go forward.
[2:06:46]
>> Thank you speaker. So committee this
[2:06:47]
is a discussion point for now. A
[2:06:48]
meeting has been noticed for Thursday
[2:06:49]
at 1:30 PM to actually create this
[2:06:57]
subcommittee of the interim finance
[2:06:58]
committee. So are there any questions
[2:06:59]
or comments from other members at this
[2:07:01]
time? No vote on this will be taken
[2:07:02]
today. This is merely the public
[2:07:05]
discussion part of it. Committee
[2:07:08]
members? Did I see a hand? Sen.
[2:07:17]
Woodhouse I am sorry, yes.
[2:07:19]
>> Thank you chair Carlton. I just
[2:07:22]
want to say come I want to thank
[2:07:26]
speaker Frierson and the chair and Sen.
[2:07:36]
for working on this oversight committee
[2:07:37]
idea. I believe this is truly a way we
[2:07:38]
can make sure that we are using - -
[2:07:44]
that we are utilizing the CARES Act
[2:07:45]
dollars that will help the Nevadans
[2:07:46]
to deal with a crisis at hand and it's
[2:07:49]
also an opportunity for us to
[2:07:52]
communicate how these dollars are being
[2:07:55]
expended in the most efficient way.. So
[2:07:58]
that all of the stakeholders in state
[2:08:02]
government, legislature our local
[2:08:04]
officials as well as well as the
[2:08:08]
communities in which we all live, that
[2:08:10]
we know what is happening with these
[2:08:13]
dollars. Because it is very very
[2:08:16]
important that we do adjust the needs
[2:08:17]
of our community. So thank you very
[2:08:20]
much for the opportunity to make a
[2:08:22]
comment.>> Thank you Sen. Woodhouse.
[2:08:27]
Any other questions or comments from
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any other committee members at this
[2:08:29]
time? I don't see anyone wishing to be
[2:08:38]
recognized at this moment. So with that
[2:08:41]
committee members will take our
[2:08:42]
standard two-minute pause in order to
[2:08:44]
allow folks wish to make a public
[2:08:46]
comment to be able to dial in and be
[2:08:51]
queued up. The clock that I have right
[2:09:03]
now is citing about 11:15 AM. In the
[2:09:09]
interest to make it your will go until
[2:09:10]
about 11:18 AM and will check our
[2:09:11]
broadcast services staff to see if
[2:09:12]
anyone is in a queue for public
[2:09:13]
comment. So with that we will stand
[2:09:14]
eddies for the next couple of minutes.
[2:09:15]
Thank you.
[2:09:16]
>> >> [Recess]
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>> Broadcast services do we have
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anyone in a comment, please be was we
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have one caller. Caller, please were
[2:12:20]
the last three numbers 535, please be
[2:12:21]
addressed
[2:12:22]
>> Good morning Mme. Chair and
[2:12:26]
committee. My name is Jim Sullivan. I'm
[2:12:30]
here representing the [inaudible]. As
[2:12:35]
CARES Act money starts to flow into our
[2:12:36]
state the culinary union believes the
[2:12:38]
lattice of prioritize getting displaced
[2:12:39]
workers back to work to protecting
[2:12:42]
those that 142 we remain unemployed.
[2:12:47]
As communities plan to reopen casinos,
[2:12:48]
it's imperative that CARES Act money
[2:12:50]
used for allocated to first ensure that
[2:12:53]
all hospitality employees - excuse me -
[2:13:03]
first to ensure that all hospitality
[2:13:05]
employees are testable for they return
[2:13:07]
to work and it's crucial to address was
[2:13:12]
sufficient time for workers to receive
[2:13:13]
results before their scheduled to
[2:13:14]
return to work. In addition, CARES Act
[2:13:16]
money should be set aside to assist
[2:13:18]
workers for long-term unemployment and
[2:13:22]
food housing and rental assistance. The
[2:13:25]
culinary union is also demanding
[2:13:42]
transparency as Nevada stores plan to
[2:13:43]
reopen. We are at all elected officials
[2:13:44]
on the interim finance committee to
[2:13:45]
contact Nevada gaming commission and
[2:13:46]
asked them to do things immediately.
[2:13:47]
One, incorporate the culinary unions
[2:13:48]
proposed public health guidelines at a
[2:13:49]
minimum standard in evaluating casino
[2:13:50]
companies individual plans. Second,
[2:13:51]
publicly release all reopen plans
[2:13:52]
submitted by the gaming establishment.
[2:13:54]
The safety of the matter of lady life
[2:13:57]
and death for workers with gaming
[2:13:58]
comedies are responsible to be
[2:13:59]
transparent with another Nevadans and
[2:14:06]
[inaudible] control the pandemic of the
[2:14:07]
call: are you will can do to be vocal
[2:14:08]
and issued to make sure workers are
[2:14:09]
saved thank you for your time and
[2:14:10]
estimate this as written testimony
[2:14:11]
after this meeting. Thank you.
[2:14:12]
>> Thank you Mr. Sullivan. Please, do
[2:14:18]
submit written testimony. Either any
[2:14:19]
other public comment requests?
[2:14:22]
>>
[2:14:26]
>> Mme. Chair, that concludes the
[2:14:27]
public comment queue at this time.
[2:14:28]
>> Thank you very much care services
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you are doing a great job keeping us on
[2:14:30]
track and this is getting easier and
[2:14:31]
easier every time so, thank you very
[2:14:35]
much for all your hard work. So with
[2:14:36]
that committee members there's no more
[2:14:39]
business in front of us for today. The
[2:14:41]
meeting has been posted for Thursday at
[2:14:43]
1:30 PM. Please please, do try to sign
[2:14:46]
in early on the queue if you can to
[2:14:52]
make sure that we are ready to go at
[2:14:53]
1:30 PM. Please, do remember that these
[2:14:57]
are broadcast on the Internet and this
[2:14:58]
is just like every other meeting. Side
[2:15:03]
conversations and other work should be
[2:15:04]
kept at a minimum while were doing the
[2:15:06]
people's work in this committee
[2:15:07]
meeting. I like to say we were
[2:15:10]
officially kiddie bombs earlier at Ms.
[2:15:12]
Spiegel's residence so we have now
[2:15:13]
crossed over into having a pet attend
[2:15:21]
one of our meetings. We knew it was
[2:15:22]
gonna happen sooner or later so
[2:15:23]
congratulations Ms. Spiegel. You're the
[2:15:24]
first one to have a pet attend and IFC
[2:15:27]
remaining. So with that committee
[2:15:28]
members, thank you very much. We are
[2:15:29]
adjourned.
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>> >> [Event concluded]